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Title: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: Krätzer on 14-02-2013, 21:02:10
FH2  3.7cm Stielgranate 41

Showing some steps of creating the Projectile.

LPModel: http://youtu.be/zP65U74newI
UVW Unwrap:http://youtu.be/BAmcNKBxvzA
HighPoly:http://youtu.be/LeLD3DW-2i4
Bake:http://youtu.be/JeOqoFMILwE
Texture:http://youtu.be/JOftWHk1eMw

(http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af43/BGF-Kraetzer/Preview%20render/screen464.png)

Greetz
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: Turkish007 on 14-02-2013, 21:02:14
Krätzer, you are the best!
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: MaJ.P.Bouras on 14-02-2013, 21:02:29
Seems so easy at this video...
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: RAnDOOm on 14-02-2013, 21:02:46
Thanks for showing your work routines Krätzer .
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: mopskind on 14-02-2013, 21:02:55
Nicely done, the next part is where it always gets tricky for me ;)
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: LuckyOne on 14-02-2013, 22:02:43
Love it, now we'll see how this baby gets dem Russkies!
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: THeTA0123 on 14-02-2013, 22:02:12
Yes

yes

i will so be sniping infantry with this!
Its like a panzerfaust but bigger!

Best-anti-infantry weapon ever for germans!


Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: Krätzer on 14-02-2013, 22:02:47
First post updated.

UVW Unwrap
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: jan_kurator on 14-02-2013, 23:02:06
Krätzer, you're too good for them! If you will give public what they want they will come for more and you will end up making Churchill Crocodile for THeTA0123 :P

i will so be sniping infantry with this!
Its like a panzerfaust but bigger!

Best-anti-infantry weapon ever for germans!
>HEAT projectile
>Best-anti-infantry weapon

::)


P.S. I love music in those videos :D
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: THeTA0123 on 14-02-2013, 23:02:51
Krätzer, you're too good for them! If you will give public what they want they will come for more and you will end up making Churchill Crocodile for THeTA0123 :P

i will so be sniping infantry with this!
Its like a panzerfaust but bigger!

Best-anti-infantry weapon ever for germans!
>HEAT projectile
>Best-anti-infantry weapon

::)

I am a proud PIAT mortaring, faustillering and zooka sniping soldier. IMO these things are ment to fight infantry aswel. Its something that got me kicked on 762 twice.
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: Krätzer on 14-02-2013, 23:02:17
First Post updated:
HighPoly:http://youtu.be/LeLD3DW-2i4
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: Wilhelm on 14-02-2013, 23:02:17
Nice work, Krätzer!

What program are you using to record these?  :)
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: [QPS]_Sex_Bomb on 15-02-2013, 00:02:46
 :o
Impressive, good work!
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: LtJimmy on 15-02-2013, 00:02:14
I remember when I first suggested this.
http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?topic=2865.0
Didn't actually think it would be ever implemented though.
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: Surfbird on 15-02-2013, 01:02:16
Awesome work, really nice to see how it's done and to see a reaction to a nearly instant reaction to a community suggestion. Thank you!
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 15-02-2013, 01:02:37
Holy shit that's awesome  :o
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 15-02-2013, 04:02:18
I HATE you for making this look so easy! ;D honestly WOW great work. Even though the videos are sped up you seemed to make this soooooo easy. Can't wait for the texture vids
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: Chad1992 on 15-02-2013, 05:02:58
KRATZER I COULD KISS YOU!!!!!  :D Really awsome work, thank you ten times over for making this and recording it.  I enjoy watchin stuff being made, you make it look like your simply putting a childs puzzle together.  I know its much harder than that, and i feel watching it come together makes people appreciate the models more.  I know its extra work but i wish more modelers would record their work.
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: VonMudra on 15-02-2013, 07:02:03
Awwwww hell yeah Kratzer!  You are the MAN!  ;D
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: mopskind on 15-02-2013, 09:02:42
Could you by any chance upload that stuff in normal speed? Would be much appreciated
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: th_battleaxe on 15-02-2013, 10:02:16
Krätzer just won a million cookies.

Awesome stuff. Now if you would be so kind to make the Stielgranate 42 for the sIG 33, that would be much appreciated
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: Kuupperi on 15-02-2013, 11:02:00
I must admit this'll give me a reason to use PaK 35/36 again.

Since the devs are making some suggestions come true I have one as well: work on the Eastern front exactly the same speed as it is in the videos or maybe 2x faster?  ;D
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: hyperanthropos on 15-02-2013, 11:02:37
Hope you have at least 5 of these things! And add many movable ones please!
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: Turkish007 on 15-02-2013, 11:02:26
Whoa,wait a minute.... they're accepting suggestions?
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: jan_kurator on 15-02-2013, 13:02:19
Whoa,wait a minute.... they're accepting suggestions?
since 2007
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: Turkish007 on 15-02-2013, 13:02:07
Whoa,wait a minute.... they're accepting suggestions?
since 2007

Allrighty then, here comes mine:

Errm, a nagant revolver would be cool.
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: Lightning on 15-02-2013, 13:02:08
Things that take less time have a higher chance of being accepted. This thing is one of the simplest things you can imagine. A Nagant Revolver will probably take 15 to 20 times as long to make as this.
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: Turkish007 on 15-02-2013, 14:02:27
Oh, okay. Something less detailed?

Hmmm....

A Luger with a drum mag? That would be easy I suppose as we already have the Luger model.
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: jan_kurator on 15-02-2013, 14:02:05
Krätzer, you're too good for them! If you will give public what they want they will come for more...
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: Lightning on 15-02-2013, 14:02:03
A Luger with a drum mag? That would be easy I suppose as we already have the Luger model.
Yes, that would be easy to do. (Though it might require new animations...)

Now if you want to turn that into a good suggestion, you also have to include when it was used, how it was used, how common it was, ideally what maps it could be put on (which kits?) and of course reference material for modellers (i.e. pictures of the thing).
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: Turkish007 on 15-02-2013, 14:02:45
Krätzer, you're too good for them! If you will give public what they want they will come for more...

I'm not saying "DO IT!" Im just suggesting.
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: Chad1992 on 15-02-2013, 14:02:26
I suggest we let him finish this first, before throwing any new ideas at him.  ::)
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: Turkish007 on 15-02-2013, 15:02:41
Sure. Besides, Krätzer doesnt model weapons AFAIK, Seth_Soldier is doing that work, isnt he?
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: Krätzer on 15-02-2013, 15:02:31
What program are you using to record these?  :)

Camtasia

Any chance upload that stuff in normal speed?

Nope, no chance sorry.

Speed is 250% in all Vids and will stay, cause they are boring for People who just want to see some Progress.
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: Kuupperi on 15-02-2013, 15:02:58
Krätzer, you're too good for them! If you will give public what they want they will come for more...

Don't you worry they'll rest with their suggestions when every single possible equipment, vehicle and map from the WW2 is added in the mod or the developing dies.
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: LuckyOne on 15-02-2013, 15:02:05
Don't you worry they'll rest with their suggestions when every single possible equipment, vehicle and map from the WW2 is added in the mod or the developing dies.

I wouldn't be so sure... FH 1 isn't officially developed anymore, yet we still get the occasional suggestions for it...
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: Krätzer on 15-02-2013, 17:02:43
First post updated

Bake:http://youtu.be/JeOqoFMILwE
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: th_battleaxe on 15-02-2013, 17:02:48
Dude, you're cooking with something more potent than gas.

Also notice what Kev mentioned, the Finns might get this puppy.
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: [QPS]_Sex_Bomb on 15-02-2013, 17:02:36
Krätzer, you're too good for them! If you will give public what they want they will come for more and you will end up making Churchill Crocodile for THeTA0123 :P

How can you be too good for your mod community?  It's a win-win situation where fans are satisfied and developer work is fully appreciated.
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: Ts4EVER on 15-02-2013, 18:02:23
If he makes a Churchill Crocodile I will have to ban Theta again, so yeah please make one.
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: THeTA0123 on 15-02-2013, 18:02:31
i would really appreciate that churchill crocodile tough :>   we have 2 maps were they can be used (Goodwood and brest )

If he makes a Churchill Crocodile I will have to ban Theta again, so yeah please make one.
Then you can name yourself "Regular banner of theta0123"
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: Ts4EVER on 15-02-2013, 18:02:29
Dunno about Brest, the crocs were not used int he city but to storm the fortresses around it.
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: Krätzer on 15-02-2013, 18:02:12
We are done, rest is done by Kev4000

Texture:http://youtu.be/JOftWHk1eMw

(http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af43/BGF-Kraetzer/Preview%20render/37mmSTielgranate01.jpg)
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: Turkish007 on 15-02-2013, 18:02:51
This....Is... Beautiful.....
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: McCloskey on 15-02-2013, 18:02:26
Lovely.
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: VonMudra on 15-02-2013, 19:02:46
A Luger with a drum mag? That would be easy I suppose as we already have the Luger model.
Yes, that would be easy to do. (Though it might require new animations...)

Now if you want to turn that into a good suggestion, you also have to include when it was used, how it was used, how common it was, ideally what maps it could be put on (which kits?) and of course reference material for modellers (i.e. pictures of the thing).

Was not used at all in WW2 (lugar with snail drum I mean).

As for nagant revolver, isn't that already in FH2?



Also, god damn kratzer, that is a thing of beauty. :)
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: Turkish007 on 15-02-2013, 19:02:04
A Luger with a drum mag? That would be easy I suppose as we already have the Luger model.
Yes, that would be easy to do. (Though it might require new animations...)

Now if you want to turn that into a good suggestion, you also have to include when it was used, how it was used, how common it was, ideally what maps it could be put on (which kits?) and of course reference material for modellers (i.e. pictures of the thing).

Was not used at all in WW2 (lugar with snail drum I mean).

As for nagant revolver, isn't that already in FH2?

words from a betatester.... Should we move on to the conspiracy thread?  ;D
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: Krätzer on 15-02-2013, 20:02:01
(http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af43/BGF-Kraetzer/Preview%20render/screen463.png)
(http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af43/BGF-Kraetzer/Preview%20render/screen464.png)
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: Kuupperi on 15-02-2013, 20:02:00
Now you can consider PaK 35/36 as a serious threat. I guess we're going to see this mostly on the desert maps(?)
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: Chad1992 on 15-02-2013, 20:02:17
Awsome! Truely Awsome. Job well done.
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 15-02-2013, 20:02:16
I didn't think you were allowed to link porn to this forum... great job. That whole video series. Wow, well done
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: Lightning on 15-02-2013, 20:02:46
Now you can consider PaK 35/36 as a serious threat. I guess we're going to see this mostly on the desert maps(?)
I'm reasonably certain it was not used in North Africa.
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: McCloskey on 15-02-2013, 21:02:08
what's the deal with projectiles in BF2? can you change the model based on what ammo you have loaded or will the Pak have the grenade mounted even if you shoot regular HE/AP?
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: Chad1992 on 15-02-2013, 22:02:38
Wont it be just like a plane with rockets? They "change" after there fired don't they? Never paid that close attention i guess.  :-\
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: NTH on 15-02-2013, 22:02:05
Seeing the video's made me realize who many levels away I was  when attempting to make a model.
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: VonMudra on 15-02-2013, 22:02:42
Now you can consider PaK 35/36 as a serious threat. I guess we're going to see this mostly on the desert maps(?)

Nope, wasn't in africa.  This was used in normandy and the ostfront, especially by FJ and Jager units.
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: Turkish007 on 15-02-2013, 23:02:33
Now you can consider PaK 35/36 as a serious threat. I guess we're going to see this mostly on the desert maps(?)

Nope, wasn't in africa.  This was used in normandy and the ostfront, especially by FJ and Jager units.

So we can have this on PHL and St. Lo?
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: THeTA0123 on 15-02-2013, 23:02:20
Yep  that would work.
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: LtJimmy on 19-02-2013, 05:02:17
Whoa,wait a minute.... they're accepting suggestions?
They aren't. To paraphrase from another thread on the subject: It was done because someone felt like doing it, nothing more.
I remain cynical of the point of the suggestion thread.
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: Zulnex on 25-02-2013, 03:02:28
Looks awesome. Keep up the splendid work Developers.
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: Roughbeak on 25-02-2013, 20:02:43
Excellent work Kratzer :o
How powerful is this thing going to be..little more powerful than a M1 Garand HEAT Grenade?   :)
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: CptdeS35 on 26-02-2013, 18:02:15
uh uh love it  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: Chad1992 on 27-02-2013, 03:02:23
Excellent work Kratzer :o
How powerful is this thing going to be..little more powerful than a M1 Garand HEAT Grenade?   :)
It had 2.42kg (5.34lb) of cyclonite/TNT.  It could penetrate 180mm under 300m.
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: VonMudra on 08-03-2013, 21:03:33
Excellent work Kratzer :o
How powerful is this thing going to be..little more powerful than a M1 Garand HEAT Grenade?   :)
It had 2.42kg (5.34lb) of cyclonite/TNT.  It could penetrate 180mm under 300m.

In otherwords, about as powerful as the panzerfaust is ingame.
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: THeTA0123 on 09-03-2013, 13:03:23
But with longer range ofcourse
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: Turkish007 on 09-03-2013, 13:03:17
So it really packs a punch... Awesome!  :D
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: THeTA0123 on 09-03-2013, 13:03:58
As mudra said, same as a panzerfaust but with triple the range


The round also travelled faster, so aiming on moving targets will be much easier

Even the US considered a projectile like this for there 37mm guns, but the mass production of the 57mm anti-tank gun aswel as new ammo cancelled this project
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: |7th|Nighthawk on 09-03-2013, 15:03:54
The Panzerfaust mostly is not a 1sk against Shermans anymore. You only got a chance to kill it from behind. Will the PAK36 with this Grenade be movable for setting up ambushes that allow this style of attack? I fear that the awful reload time of this gun might be problematic when you are not able to kill it with your first shot.
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: THeTA0123 on 09-03-2013, 15:03:28
Its a general problem. Seeing Kingtigers surviving 2-3 shots from a 90mm gun raises my eyebrows aswel.

Or a crusader surviving flak 88 hits  ;D ;D
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: |7th|Nighthawk on 09-03-2013, 15:03:06
I've surly mentioned it earlier but try a SdkfZ. 7 reflecting a 76mm shell :D That's the best I can think of.

EDIT: Just the usual spelling mistakes...
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: THeTA0123 on 09-03-2013, 15:03:37
my M3 halftrack bounched off a Tiger tanks shot on Villers bocage once  ;D
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: |7th|Nighthawk on 09-03-2013, 16:03:46
Haha, angle mod has it's funny moments for sure - as long as you are not the gunner.
Well, let's not reopen old sores :P
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: Turkish007 on 09-03-2013, 16:03:00
My kubelwagen bounced an 88 shell on Totalize once  ::)
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: Michael Z Freeman on 10-03-2013, 17:03:31
Just when I think I've seen all the unusual WW2 weapons  ::)

Amazing work !  ;D

Really interesting to see the videos. Inspiring for my learning in Blender (http://www.blender.org/). I think Blender automatically lays out the UV mesh, although manually doing it may make it easier later to paint the texture in. Of course I could just be saying this because I'm afraid of that stage being manual :o.

Could you by any chance upload that stuff in normal speed? Would be much appreciated

http://www.downloadhelper.net/ ... then slow it down in a video player, or extract all the frames using VirtualDub and view one by one, or use ffmpeg command line if ur in Linux.
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: Krätzer on 10-03-2013, 18:03:13
But take care, these Videos are no Tutorials. I use some shortcuts, so you can´t see what i´m doing.
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: Harmonikater on 15-06-2014, 16:06:48
Any chance we can still see those videos?
Title: Re: FH2 3.7cm Stielgranate 41
Post by: Krätzer on 16-06-2014, 15:06:58
Sure, they are public again.