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Title: Militaria
Post by: siben on 02-04-2009, 10:04:42
Since I am sure theire are more people like me that own WW2 collectibles I start this tread so you can post them. Over the next few weeks i wil Post pictures on here off all the stuff i own from that time period. Feel free to post your own pictures as wel.

First up, my German K98k Bayonet. Its Prewar production.
(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/7182/dscf0010q.jpg)
(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/9791/dscf0014x.jpg)
(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/8704/dscf0012p.jpg)
(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/3886/dscf0013w.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 02-04-2009, 11:04:18
Nice bayonett!
A friend of mine got me a German WW2 ammo box. Unfortunately the paper which said what kind of ammo is to be stored in there is nearly gone. But on the top it says "Luftdichter Patronenkasten" (airproof ammo box). The box is made from wood on the outside and the inside is made from metal. it´s quite heavy, I guess around 5 kilo? He got that box from his army base. I don´t know why that thing was there but it´s quite cool. Right now I use it to store my airsoft stuff. ^^
Apart from that I got from another friend a P08 "Luger" replica. Quite cool, although it´s de-activated. The best thing is that it can be partially disambled but unfortunately the cocking mechanism doesn´t work..
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: FatJoe on 02-04-2009, 13:04:00
My two war rifles.
A 1944 Lee Enfield No4 MkI. I suspect it to be a paratrooper rifle though I don't have anything to confirm it.
(http://joe.simnet.is/col1LeeEnfieldNo4MkI.jpg)

And a 1918 version of M1917, a US 30.06 verion of the P14 rifle
(http://joe.simnet.is/Col1M1917.jpg)

That means I now have two rifles that are in FH2.. and those two happend to be the best rifles in FH2 in my opinion. I love aiming with the M1917 ;D

Still haven't fired the M1917 though.. will have to do that soon!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: McGibs on 02-04-2009, 14:04:30
Sexy. The M1917 looks like to be in pretty decent condition.

Here be my sharpn-pointy collection. Nothing really noteworthy. The oldest thing is the mauser-looking bayonet, but it doesnt have any markings on it.
(http://mcgibs.iseenothing.com/junk/knives.jpg)
From left to right:
USMC KA-BAR
Crappy modernized Tanto
Swiss STG 57 bayonet
Mauser type bayonet (but it has a muzzle ring. I think that means its Austrian or something)
Sexy Hunting Knife
Mini Machete

Also got a US M40 gasmask, and a repo German m40/42 helmet.
(http://mcgibs.iseenothing.com/junk/gasmask.jpg)

I dont own any real guns, but I have a couple milsim paintball guns. Because I can shoot people with them.

Not pictured: All the cloths, assualt harnesses, dummy ammo, boxes, medals, other fiddly bits and a repo/dummy potatoemasher grenade.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 02-04-2009, 14:04:03
  Ohhh nice stuff guys!  I so want that 1917!

Does this have to be just WWII stuff Siben?

EDIT:Well I will just let McGibs be the trend-setter.   ;)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: McGibs on 02-04-2009, 14:04:08
HISTORICAL INACCURACY!!!!!

(http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v112/9/90/712745610/n712745610_1132606_8684.jpg)

German helmet, russian googles, post-war german shirt, british harness, canadian pants, and spray-painted dart-shooting mp40 i found at a dollar store.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 02-04-2009, 14:04:13
 LOL!  Where the hell are you that that could pass for normal!?!?  Or does it?  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 02-04-2009, 14:04:10

Does this have to be just WWII stuff Siben?


Nah, as long as it is related to some army/conflict its ok. I just dont want to see your old teapot, or those antique chairs your granddad owns here :)

And pictures are prefered

And McGibs, as long as it looks badass i guess :D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: McGibs on 02-04-2009, 15:04:41
LOL!  Where the hell are you that that could pass for normal!?!?  Or does it?  ;D

comic convention :p
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 02-04-2009, 15:04:16
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v213/Jeremiahthor/PHOT0013.jpg)

Old pic...Full auto with the ROF jacked.  Back in the day when full-auto was allowed on the field.  Shame I play Paintball like I do FH.  Always sprinting in the open just to get cut down about 30 seconds after a round start.

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: McGibs on 02-04-2009, 15:04:56
Nice. I've got an X7 with a wooden ak47 stock and 30 round tactical hopper because I'm poor and cant afford to chew through a case of paint every game.
And a Zeus G2 pistol as a sidearm (pictured in that gasmask pic).

But we digress. paintball isnt -REALLY- militaria. Should open up a second thread for wargaming.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 02-04-2009, 15:04:23
Oooh, I got to make some pictures of my stuff now.
And McGibs, if I am correct, Mauser bayonet with muzzle ring = Mannlicher bayonet.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 02-04-2009, 16:04:34
  Actually the German WWII mauser bayo is very odd.  Most all (if not all) K98 bayonets have the ring.  I would put my money on it being a yugo M48 bayo.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 02-04-2009, 16:04:20
All your money? I might go for a bet there.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 02-04-2009, 16:04:35
Well it is a Thursday at 10AM so take a wild guess on just how well off I am as of late work wise.   ;)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: FatJoe on 02-04-2009, 16:04:39
haha McGibs.. we should just open up a photo Shinnannigins thread in OT ^^

I have to get my hands on Ammo Boots and a tommy helmet and I'm set for a british soldier.. :P
Aiming at a British Paratrooper though, so I'm far from complete.. I should try and find some pictures soon :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: McGibs on 02-04-2009, 16:04:41
theres what looks like "OLAV" stamped on the rear end of the grip, but the A and the V are both the same symbol (the A has no cross)

But thats the only stampings I can find.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Sir Apple on 02-04-2009, 16:04:56
Guess what Lainer? Its time for me to post my Garand again. Yeah, you thought you could get away from me and my good wood.  ;D

(http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/rr222/trgallery/DSCF2302.jpg)

(http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/rr222/trgallery/DSCF2303.jpg)


I resized them by a lot in photobucket, but they are still rather large  :-\. Unless there is a spoiler system now?





Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 02-04-2009, 16:04:22
Operation Goodwood versus Lainer.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Invincible on 02-04-2009, 17:04:58
Oef that would be a long list,
I ow all the Dutch Army stuff there is, cose well i am in the army hehe.
List of old stuff:

WW1:

German Helmet
French Helmet
French Gasmask + Case

WW2:

Dutch Army Helmet (TY Polska)
Dutch Army "resictance" Helmet (a orginal one)
Dutch Gasmask (TY Polska)
Some dutch small props, stil need to complete the uniform.
American Helmet
American Webing
Some random stuff I dont want the full internet to know I have it ;).

Cold war:

Full DDR uniform
I hade a AK-47 (one of the 30 peaple who where aloud to have it in The Netherlands)
AK-47 bajonet.

Full Dutch uniform.

Also I recently got this (Swedish) Knife, witch Im not sure if its worth anything, New it cost 100 dollars, But This one hase been passing around 3 generations.

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Thorondor123 on 02-04-2009, 17:04:17
- Mosin & Nagant early model spike bayonet
- Finnish M/39 rifle
- Finnish kp/31 SJR submachine gun
- MG151/20 HE or Mine grenade
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Alakazou on 02-04-2009, 18:04:00
Sexy. The M1917 looks like to be in pretty decent condition.

Here be my sharpn-pointy collection. Nothing really noteworthy. The oldest thing is the mauser-looking bayonet, but it doesnt have any markings on it.
(http://mcgibs.iseenothing.com/junk/knives.jpg)
From left to right:
USMC KA-BAR
Crappy modernized Tanto
Swiss STG 57 bayonet
Mauser type bayonet (but it has a muzzle ring. I think that means its Austrian or something)
Sexy Hunting Knife
Mini Machete

Also got a US M40 gasmask, and a repo German m40/42 helmet.
(http://mcgibs.iseenothing.com/junk/gasmask.jpg)

I dont own any real guns, but I have a couple milsim paintball guns. Because I can shoot people with them.

Not pictured: All the cloths, assualt harnesses, dummy ammo, boxes, medals, other fiddly bits and a repo/dummy potatoemasher grenade.
Eurk a zeus. I hate it. :P I prefer the news TPX :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: McGibs on 02-04-2009, 21:04:41
Well duh. Too bad it didnt exist at the time I got this.

The bitch weighs as much as my primary marker, and its all topheavy. she does the job though.

My friend has a Tiberius. It feels a little flimsy to me, and its an absolute pain in the ass to field strip.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 02-04-2009, 21:04:43
Thorondor123 and Invincible, feel free to try and take pictures and post them here if you can.
For the rest, plz try to keep it on topic.

Here is some more of the collection. Its a Deutsche VolksgasMaske 37 or german civilian gasmask model 1937
Mint condition, but missing its orriginal box.
(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/39/dscf0021d.jpg)
(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/2615/dscf0022a.jpg)

And some detail pictures of the stamps on it.
(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/9009/dscf0025y.jpg)
(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/1076/dscf0026p.jpg)
(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/858/dscf0027h.jpg)

I just hope i am alowed to post pictures of nazi symbols on my stuff.

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Biiviz on 02-04-2009, 21:04:15
- Mosin & Nagant early model spike bayonet
- Finnish M/39 rifle
- Finnish kp/31 SJR submachine gun
- MG151/20 HE or Mine grenade

Pics or it didn't happen! ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Torenico on 02-04-2009, 21:04:51
I wish if i could have something like that guys...
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Thorondor123 on 02-04-2009, 22:04:05
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/Thorondor123/IMG_0141.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/Thorondor123/kp31SJR.jpg

Can't find a pic of the rifle right now.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Hockeywarrior on 02-04-2009, 22:04:07
HISTORICAL INACCURACY!!!!!

(http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v112/9/90/712745610/n712745610_1132606_8684.jpg)

German helmet, russian googles, post-war german shirt, british harness, canadian pants, and spray-painted dart-shooting mp40 i found at a dollar store.
LOL looks like you're a typical soldier in some old low budget war movie from the 60's where they use gear from different armies from different time periods.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Biiviz on 02-04-2009, 22:04:15
A Russian ww2 helmet, SA post-war smoke grenade, some Suomi M/31 ammunition, RK-62 tracer rounds, SA flare round, SA Kniffelknaffel (Spork), SA mug and a (37mm?) AT warhead. Might be more, but I can't really remember atm. I'll have to check next time I'm at our summer house.

Note: SA stands for Suomen Armeija (Finnish Army).
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Hockeywarrior on 02-04-2009, 23:04:09
I guess I might as well repost pictures of my Mauser Pocket Pistol (1914/38) that were on the old FF forums before the apocolypse.

(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/663/img000014.jpg)

(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/1374/img000016w.jpg)

Sorry for the huge size. We really really really need Spoilers....
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Tiemann on 02-04-2009, 23:04:25
Ill post a pic of my beat to shit MkIII smle soon. :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Sir Apple on 02-04-2009, 23:04:20
Ill post a pic of my beat to shit MkIII smle soon. :)

There are no shit SMLEs'.  ;)

I'd love to have one. But they seem to be to expensive for a 17 year old  :(.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Tiemann on 02-04-2009, 23:04:56
Well its my dads but i get it when im 18, and you can get them dirt cheap in Canada. It was used as a range rifle on my great-grandfather's farm so its been sporterized, which is a shame. The barrel and woodwork have been cut back. It was manufactured in 1940 by BSE and has no Canadian markings.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 02-04-2009, 23:04:39
My new toy....:

(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/1201/img0339s.jpg)
(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/3941/img0340e.jpg)

 :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Dogbert on 03-04-2009, 00:04:28
Thats awesome haha. But..uh..you need to clean your room I think..


Ill post my Japanese stuff later
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 03-04-2009, 01:04:35
Nice Muddy....I know that is not the one we had up my way because it lacks the shield.  Is it NFA or a repo?  And how much dare I ask?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 03-04-2009, 03:04:38
Repro, 350 bucks, got it for cheap, the guy was trying to get rid of some stuff he doesn't use.  That repro normally sells for about 550 bucks.

And psh, my room is actually VERY clean right now, as compared to a year ago xD
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Sir Apple on 03-04-2009, 03:04:10
How much does your PZshreck weigh?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 03-04-2009, 03:04:42
Same as the original, about 21 lbs.  Its actually rather well balanced, and since I won't be carrying my K98k, K98k ammo/ammo pouches, and I'll have a loader to carry the ammo, it actually won't be that bad at all.  Since its shieldless, I'll also be rocking gasmask and welding gloves to "protect" me from the rocket exhaust ;)

I'm also getting it repainted.  Going with a primer, then fieldgrey basepaint, then quickly applied winter whitewash using burlap to apply it, followed by finnish geometric camo (works for german too).  That way, as the paint flakes, much like on my helmet, it'll show the previously applied paints.  Makes it loook a lot better, and gives it some history.  My helmet is actually tuned to my persona, with field grey basepaint from my time in Italy, then winter camo for my service in the 43 winter in russia, followed by apple green with purple/brown and khaki splotches and dark green leaves painted into the camo pattern, light oxide texturization, and a single wire frame.  It looks really good now, as the paint flakes off, and exposes little white and fieldgrey, and even bare metal, areas of the helm ;)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Sir Apple on 03-04-2009, 03:04:35
Same as the original, about 21 lbs.  Its actually rather well balanced, and since I won't be carrying my K98k, K98k ammo/ammo pouches, and I'll have a loader to carry the ammo, it actually won't be that bad at all.  Since its shieldless, I'll also be rocking gasmask and welding gloves to "protect" me from the rocket exhaust ;)

I'm also getting it repainted.  Going with a primer, then fieldgrey basepaint, then quickly applied winter whitewash using burlap to apply it, followed by finnish geometric camo (works for german too).  That way, as the paint flakes, much like on my helmet, it'll show the previously applied paints.  Makes it loook a lot better, and gives it some history.  My helmet is actually tuned to my persona, with field grey basepaint from my time in Italy, then winter camo for my service in the 43 winter in russia, followed by apple green with purple/brown and khaki splotches and dark green leaves painted into the camo pattern, light oxide texturization, and a single wire frame.  It looks really good now, as the paint flakes off, and exposes little white and fieldgrey, and even bare metal, areas of the helm ;)

You need to post pictures of all your stuff one of these days.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 03-04-2009, 13:04:08
Ok, next up another civilian gasmaskt, this time its model 1940. This specific model is stil in its orriginal box and is in childsize.
(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/9616/dscf0024sbs.jpg)

Next are 2 military models, the first one is a GM-30 (no date found)and its container (dated 1940 and has a copper or brass inside for some reasen), the second one is a GM-38 (dated jan 1941) and container (1936).
(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/8654/dscf0038lkf.jpg)
(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/2758/dscf0037v.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 03-04-2009, 13:04:30
My new toy....:

(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/1201/img0339s.jpg)
(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/3941/img0340e.jpg)

 :)

Verry nice:p

I saw a couple of piats 2 weeks a go at a militariafair and almost bought one until a saw a verry nice 1943 british made lee enfield No4 Mk1. To bad it had a broken extractor spring tough, it can shoot, just not verry fast.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Schneider on 03-04-2009, 14:04:55
Your couch sure looks like half the wehrmacht staff has sat on it!
But nice replica.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 03-04-2009, 20:04:54
Nope, just my cat that sheds like crazy!  I've given up trying to get his fur off the couch, it all returns the next day xD
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Mayhemic.MAD on 03-04-2009, 20:04:11
(http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/9958/dsc00080n.th.jpg) (http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00080n.jpg) (http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/8642/dsc00082j.th.jpg) (http://img15.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00082j.jpg) (http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/5672/dsc00083byj.th.jpg) (http://img26.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00083byj.jpg)

A Spoon I found in my grandparents kitchen table just some weeks ago  :o
Some research revealed it to be a Luftwaffe Spoon.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 03-04-2009, 20:04:54
Oohhh, that's cool :D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: konti on 03-04-2009, 20:04:39
I got a K98k Bayonet too. ;) Also got a white porcelain plate from the "Reichsarbeitsdienst 1938" and a wooden chair with the obvious emblem on its bottom. Will post pictures soon.

Edit: oh and I once had a british army pocket knife, but sold it 2 decades ago... SHAME ON ME!  :'(
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 04-04-2009, 16:04:37
Time for some more pictures :)

This a the Gasmaskbag of a royal navy Luitenant commander. It has pretty much everything still in it, unused.
(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/5955/dscf0046r.jpg)
(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/6407/dscf0047v.jpg)
(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/6195/dscf0048i.jpg)
(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/9858/dscf0049x.jpg)
(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/6638/dscf0050s.jpg)
(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/4938/dscf0051hqo.jpg)
(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/9503/dscf0052v.jpg)
(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/3779/dscf0053b.jpg)
(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/7864/dscf0054h.jpg)
(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/4842/dscf0055u.jpg)
(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/92/dscf0056h.jpg)
(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/445/dscf0057y.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 04-04-2009, 17:04:22
Haha I lolled a bit at the manual about how a tube works. I see motiviation poster coming up with that one. "Captain Obvious, even manuals can do it"
Anyways looks really nice. Today I bought some German motorcycle goggles. It's in good condition with the original can with it. Will look good on a Stahlhelm once I get one.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Kading on 04-04-2009, 18:04:20
what caught my eye was the flash gloves. amazing to see them in such good condition after so long, the elastic is even in tact. i have two new pairs just like that. guess they havent changed the design in a long time.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Freggel on 04-04-2009, 18:04:49
My militaria :http://users.telenet.be/thoelen/WAF/ (http://users.telenet.be/thoelen/WAF/)

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 04-04-2009, 19:04:46
I hope your from Belgium. If not then the poor rifles are deactivated. I hate our laws, kills beautiful rifles.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Knoffhoff on 05-04-2009, 17:04:08
Here is some of my newest stuff. After completing a british rifleman and officer, enjoying the cheapness of british militaria I returned to the more costly but also more rewardable german side.
Lately I got especially exited on Winter clothing again and added some items to my collection.

(http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/7064/camo.jpg)


@ siben

Nice to see your gasmask collection grow. I still don't have a proper gasmask coming with my german equipment. After looking at your pics I think I should finally try to find one.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Hurricane on 05-04-2009, 20:04:27
(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/5159/bild196n.jpg)

(http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/6818/bild179j.jpg)

(http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/7876/bild192t.jpg)

It's an old Swiss Rifle, I think it's a Model 1896/11 but I don't think it has seen any combat since Switzerland was neutral all the time  ;)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 05-04-2009, 22:04:38
OOhhh, it is the long K11....yummy.  I'd love one of those...I just have the WW2 era K31 carbine :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Freggel on 05-04-2009, 22:04:52
I hope your from Belgium. If not then the poor rifles are deactivated. I hate our laws, kills beautiful rifles.

Luckily I am, so they are not deact.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 06-04-2009, 16:04:42
Good to know  :) Our Flemish friends seem to respect old rifles, wish I could say that about our government.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 06-04-2009, 19:04:58

@ siben

Nice to see your gasmask collection grow. I still don't have a proper gasmask coming with my german equipment. After looking at your pics I think I should finally try to find one.

Well, to be honest it hasnt really grown that much. I've been a bit short on cash lately and i also made it a priority to own the main rifles of Russia, England, Germany and US from during the war.

And please, repost your collection, or offer it for download, its just zo amazing!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 06-04-2009, 20:04:47
Lucky Fuchs reporting in, bought a Steyr-Mannlicher bayonet + scabbard. Good shape, far from mint and you can see it's age but it looks good. From what I found those sell around 40 euros, bought mine for 22.
Still waiting for my goggles to arrive. When I get the goggles and bayo I'll make some pictures of my humble collection.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Dogbert on 06-04-2009, 21:04:08
My Stuff..

So I gottt...

Katana (with tassel)
Naval officers hat (has white top too, but that parts a repo)
Sake cups/bottles/tray
1000 stitch belt
Signed flag for soldier
Then a few small things..a letter from a soldier, a little like...plate you put on your fence/house saying you have a soldier that lives here/ and a book about the Japanese royal family..pretty intresting. Full of pictures and everything. And a couple of models I did :P

Then a couple british things...good ol bayonet (has Australia carved into the wood) and that other sword..which I know nothing about (got them both for free from my moms ex..fancy that). Dont suppose anyone can tell anything about that sword? It does have INDIA stamped into the handguard.


(http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/4390/p4050510.jpg) (http://img512.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p4050510.jpg)
(http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/p4050510.jpg/1/w640.png) (http://g.imageshack.us/img512/p4050510.jpg/1/)

(http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/2640/p4050505.jpg) (http://img18.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p4050505.jpg)
(http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/p4050505.jpg/1/w640.png) (http://g.imageshack.us/img18/p4050505.jpg/1/)

(http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/7974/p4050506.jpg) (http://img529.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p4050506.jpg)
(http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/p4050506.jpg/1/w640.png) (http://g.imageshack.us/img529/p4050506.jpg/1/)

(http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/4937/p4050509.jpg) (http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p4050509.jpg)
(http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/p4050509.jpg/1/w640.png) (http://g.imageshack.us/img25/p4050509.jpg/1/)

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(http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/p4050513.jpg/1/w640.png) (http://g.imageshack.us/img361/p4050513.jpg/1/)

(http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/6121/p4050511.jpg) (http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p4050511.jpg)
(http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/p4050511.jpg/1/w640.png) (http://g.imageshack.us/img98/p4050511.jpg/1/)

(http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/407/p4050512.jpg) (http://img361.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p4050512.jpg)
(http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/p4050512.jpg/1/w640.png) (http://g.imageshack.us/img361/p4050512.jpg/1/)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 06-04-2009, 21:04:54
Oooh, thats a nice P1907 bayonet. Mine can't tip that  :P Hm, obvious would be that the sword is from an officer, British colonial India.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Johannes on 07-04-2009, 14:04:35
Time for some French stuff! Here's me wearing some of my small collection:

The base uniform consisting of:

-1926 Adrian helmet
-1938 vareuse (tunic)
-1892/14 y-straps
-1945 waist belt (need a 1903/14 waist belt)
-1945 ammunition pouches (need a pre-war; these are late war)

Few of the 1938 tunics were distributed before the start of the war, so the majority of French troops were still using the model 1935, which had six rather than five buttons.

Model 1935 manteau surtout pour troupes motorisées (canvas motorized troop overcoat), worn over the tunic. This coat was originally designed for motorcyclists and other vehicle drivers, but the motorcyclists disliked them because they were impractical (not waterproof, for example) and quickly discarded them. As a result, a large surplus of these were in storage, making them pretty much the most common WWII French Army trench coat you can find. However, it was the one design that seemed to be manufactured well after the war, with dated examples found up until the early fifties.

I literally went to classes and walked around my university campus last Thursday dressed like this, with the overcoat worn in such a manner that it would hang out and flow in the breeze almost cape-like.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: konti on 10-04-2009, 18:04:23
http://www.thors-brigade.net/downloads/konti/teller1.JPG (http://www.thors-brigade.net/downloads/konti/teller1.JPG)
http://www.thors-brigade.net/downloads/konti/teller2.JPG (http://www.thors-brigade.net/downloads/konti/teller2.JPG)
http://www.thors-brigade.net/downloads/konti/Stuhl.JPG (http://www.thors-brigade.net/downloads/konti/Stuhl.JPG)
http://www.thors-brigade.net/downloads/konti/Stuhl1.JPG (http://www.thors-brigade.net/downloads/konti/Stuhl1.JPG)

The chair originally was in a Flak tower in Bremen. My relatives "stole" it from there, in order to have something to sit on. Now we got 4 of them :)

http://www.thors-brigade.net/downloads/konti/medals.JPG (http://www.thors-brigade.net/downloads/konti/medals.JPG)

Dunno if the 2nd medal (the smaller one) was from ww2.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: nephros on 11-04-2009, 06:04:06
For me the most interesting militaria are the rifles. I try to find ones that have something of particular interest.

Last ditch Japanese T99 - From late 1944 production Nagoya arsenal. Much rougher and simpler than the early production T99 arisakas
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/apelph/powerpoint%20rifles/Slide2.jpg)

1942 Enfield No 4 Mk I/II - Manufactured at BSA arsenal. Barrel replaced 1952
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/apelph/powerpoint%20rifles/Slide3.jpg)

1943 M1 Carbine - Inland manufacture with Korean war modifications - potbelly stock and bayonet lug
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/apelph/powerpoint%20rifles/Slide4.jpg)

1942 M1 Garand - Springfield armory. The tag on the stock is the name and town of the Greek soldier who was issued the rifle post WW2
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/apelph/powerpoint%20rifles/Slide5.jpg)

1934 M1903 - Springfield armory. Barrel replaced 1937, has flaming bomb stamp on barrel.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/apelph/powerpoint%20rifles/Slide6.jpg)

1937 Mosin 91/30 - This is an interesting rifle- not used in WW2 actually, but sold to Spanish Republic forces and used in the Spanish civil war - the parts are all still matching including properly marked stock, and it has some interesting features of the SCW rifles, including all wood replacement upper handguard
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/apelph/powerpoint%20rifles/Slide7.jpg)

1937 K98 - Another interesting one. This rifle was made in the last year that the inspection stamps were weimer eagles, and the first year they were nazi eagles, so the rifle has both. The Stock is stamped 'H' meaning it was used by the Army (vs. Air or Navy), and it is a russian capture rifle, so used on eastern front.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/apelph/powerpoint%20rifles/Slide8.jpg)

1897 Mosin M1891 - receiver reads 'imperial Tula arsenal' and Tsarist eagle is pinged out by soviets after the revolution
1932 Mosin 91/30 - one of the few I found with an original stock from 1936
1944 Mosin M44
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/apelph/powerpoint%20rifles/Slide9.jpg)

I also think these "Gott Mit Uns" belt buckles are pretty cool
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/apelph/beltbuckle.jpg)

I still need to get some good pics of my Type 38 Arisaka - it's wonderfully beat up and I think it probably wound up in Chinese army hands post WW2 (and possibly a US Korean war souvenier?) but it needed some serious cleaning and rust removal and i haven't taken pics yet.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Defekt on 11-04-2009, 16:04:22
I'm also getting it repainted.  Going with a primer, then fieldgrey basepaint, then quickly applied winter whitewash using burlap to apply it, followed by finnish geometric camo (works for german too).  That way, as the paint flakes, much like on my helmet, it'll show the previously applied paints.  Makes it loook a lot better, and gives it some history.  My helmet is actually tuned to my persona, with field grey basepaint from my time in Italy, then winter camo for my service in the 43 winter in russia, followed by apple green with purple/brown and khaki splotches and dark green leaves painted into the camo pattern, light oxide texturization, and a single wire frame.  It looks really good now, as the paint flakes off, and exposes little white and fieldgrey, and even bare metal, areas of the helm ;)

The Panzerschreck was never painted in a field grey base colour. As per the order of 18th February 1943 all field equipment and vehicles were given a base overspray of dunkelgelb at the factory. The Schreck didn't see service until mid 43. Nice use of gasmask and gloves in the impression though, it's something most reenactors with a shield-less schreck seem to forget. Just remember to remove the filter :)

I've been a living historian for three years with a group portraying 4.Kompane SS-Pz.Gr.Reg.4 "Der Führer". This is a shot of myself with our group's schreck:

(http://www.panzergrenadier.net/df/images/action/action2.jpg)

This is from a photoshoot we did a couple of years ago:

(http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/363/wallpaperxs0.jpg)

Our website is www.derfuhrer.co.uk if you want to check it out :)

This photo is from our display at a show in Watford last weekend. Every item of kit in the photo (barring the rangefinder, tellermine boxes, rifle rack and chair) is original. The MG34 includes laffette, sight with box, spares, 14 ammo tins, spare barrel carriers and belt loading machine.

(http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/9388/dsc00349o.jpg)

I really should take some photos of my personal kit, I have an especially pretty original rucksack!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 11-04-2009, 18:04:33
Quote
The Panzerschreck was never painted in a field grey base colour. As per the order of 18th February 1943 all field equipment and vehicles were given a base overspray of dunkelgelb at the factory.

Ordered, but like everything in the german army, it simply didn't always happen.  I've seen enough pics of Ofenrohr to know that there were fieldgrey painted ones (shieldless).  Always remember, the Germans put out plenty of "orders" on what to do and how to do it, but only rarely was it followed 100%.  And yes, quite, I know, no filter ;)  I'm basically gonna be the only person out here using a shieldless version correctly...I have yet to see any reenactor use the gasmask and gaunlets with it o_O.  I really wish I could find photos or an original of the rubberized poncho, but no luck=/

Oh, and fieldgrey schrecks ;) (two of them):

(http://mitglied.lycos.de/sabotup/wts/Panzerschreck.jpg)

Anyways, awesome, another reenacter ;)  I'm 21st Panzer division and 6th FJ out here in So cal, plus 39th Australian, and 2nd Jager of Finnish :P  Plus 23rd Infantry for WW1.  You and I have been doing WW2 for about as long too ;)

And beautiful lafette!  AS you get on these boards, you'll find I have quite a love affair with that beautiful piece of machinery.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 11-04-2009, 19:04:01
Awesome display and is that a working Tiger II? Since I see some smoke  :P
Anyways I love when people re-enact but somehow I still can't really understand why some people re-enact the SS, it's nothing personal Defekt but I guess it's too close for me  :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Admiral Donutz on 11-04-2009, 19:04:13
I'm also getting it repainted.  Going with a primer, then fieldgrey basepaint, then quickly applied winter whitewash using burlap to apply it, followed by finnish geometric camo (works for german too).  That way, as the paint flakes, much like on my helmet, it'll show the previously applied paints.  Makes it loook a lot better, and gives it some history.  My helmet is actually tuned to my persona, with field grey basepaint from my time in Italy, then winter camo for my service in the 43 winter in russia, followed by apple green with purple/brown and khaki splotches and dark green leaves painted into the camo pattern, light oxide texturization, and a single wire frame.  It looks really good now, as the paint flakes off, and exposes little white and fieldgrey, and even bare metal, areas of the helm ;)

The Panzerschreck was never painted in a field grey base colour. As per the order of 18th February 1943 all field equipment and vehicles were given a base overspray of dunkelgelb at the factory. The Schreck didn't see service until mid 43. Nice use of gasmask and gloves in the impression though, it's something most reenactors with a shield-less schreck seem to forget. Just remember to remove the filter :)

I've been a living historian for three years with a group portraying 4.Kompane SS-Pz.Gr.Reg.4 "Der Führer". This is a shot of myself with our group's schreck:

(http://www.panzergrenadier.net/df/images/action/action2.jpg)

This is from a photoshoot we did a couple of years ago:

(http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/363/wallpaperxs0.jpg)

Our website is www.derfuhrer.co.uk if you want to check it out :)

This photo is from our display at a show in Watford last weekend. Every item of kit in the photo (barring the rangefinder, tellermine boxes, rifle rack and chair) is original. The MG34 includes laffette, sight with box, spares, 14 ammo tins, spare barrel carriers and belt loading machine.

(http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/9388/dsc00349o.jpg)

I really should take some photos of my personal kit, I have an especially pretty original rucksack!
*drool*

Simply orgasmic. :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Sir Apple on 11-04-2009, 19:04:04

(http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/9388/dsc00349o.jpg)



Hey awesome stufff! :)

Whats that weapon (?) in the back left corner on a tripod?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bosco on 11-04-2009, 19:04:32
Looks like a rangefinder to me.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 11-04-2009, 19:04:51
Yup, it´s a range finder used by the artillery.

(http://www.fprado.com/armorsite/Tiger1-2002-Picz/FLAK36-Firing-in-Russia.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Sir Apple on 11-04-2009, 20:04:42
Ah ok.

It has a slight resemblance to the American AT4  :P.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Danger X on 11-04-2009, 20:04:23
About the third leg of the lafette:

Look very closely, and you will see it. It is a bit obscured.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 11-04-2009, 20:04:04
Awesome display and is that a working Tiger II? Since I see some smoke  :P
Anyways I love when people re-enact but somehow I still can't really understand why some people re-enact the SS, it's nothing personal Defekt but I guess it's too close for me  :P

Its cuz they fought, so it should be represented.  Hell, there's black slave reenacters here in the US.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 11-04-2009, 22:04:06
Yes, yes I all understand Mudra. But re-enacting the fanatic Nazi swines is just too much. Those people killed family members of me you know. Not that I know anyone of them but my grandparents did.
But hell re-enacting is re-enacting, I just prefer Wehrmacht  :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 14-04-2009, 05:04:26
  Wait..You guys have a working KT?  Muddy do we have one of those in the states?

Anyway...I already posted a bunch of my crap once on that other forum but here goes again.

MP-40
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v213/Jeremiahthor/SANY0088.jpg)

Couple of .45's  (not WWII)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v213/Jeremiahthor/SANY0082.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 14-04-2009, 06:04:06
Wait..You guys have a working KT?  Muddy do we have one of those in the states?

Nah, that's a museum KT anyways, not reenactor owned.  We do have a Tiger back easy, a Panzer 3 and a Hetzer out west here, plus the normal assortment of halftracks and artillery.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sheikyerbouti on 14-04-2009, 06:04:37
Man, when WW3 starts I want to live in Lainer's basement... ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Hockeywarrior on 14-04-2009, 06:04:42
Man, when WW3 starts I want to live in Lainer's basement... ;D
Yea man seriously... or a zombie apocalypse... or BOTH at the SAME time!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Thorondor123 on 14-04-2009, 13:04:45
Weapons here!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Hockeywarrior on 14-04-2009, 20:04:03
Yeah, I don't know anyone, personally who reenacts death squads/allegemeine...if there are, I think they should be kicked out =/  honestly, it pisses me off enough to know that the 12th SS here has neo nazis in their membership, and they protect them from being expelled from the CHG...mainly cuz they are the largest unit out here, so their leader is always VP of the CHG board.  And he's a neo.....
Yea those people are scary enough... the last thing we need is them running around reinacting their favorite war crimes.

What is wrong with people anyway?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 15-04-2009, 00:04:08
She then calmly pulled up a sleeve, and showed him the tattoo given to her by the concentration camp guards.  He was just speechless. 

Are there pictures or video of this event?  Someone needs to add an "OMFG PWND!" caption to this.   ;D

And some more of my shit....


P1 and P38
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v213/Jeremiahthor/SANY0084.jpg)

My POS M-11...Same ROF as the MG-42. ;D
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v213/Jeremiahthor/SANY0085.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Schneider on 15-04-2009, 02:04:39
Fuck if I know....  The 12th SS are the reason Fort MacArthur days didn't allow German WW2 reenactors, across the board, for years, until just very recently with the DRK.  Basically, the story goes, some 12th SS guy (he's a NCO now in the unit) was up on their Kubelwagon explaining to the crowd the difference between the Waffen SS and others, saying that the Waffen SS never did war crimes and etc...., typical BS from that damn unit (they claim that the 12th never commited a single warcrime...bastards).  Some old lady came up and disagreed, saying that the Waffen SS did commit crimes.  He got mad, and started yelling at her, saying that she didn't know anything, etc....  She then calmly pulled up a sleeve, and showed him the tattoo given to her by the concentration camp guards.  He was just speechless.  She went and complained, and instead of just kicking out the 12th, the museum kicked out all german WW2 reenactors, and even us WW1 german guys were almost thrown out, to avoid confusion with the public (we often get called nazi reenactors anyways, which is a big insult to anyone doing WW1 german)

I don't mean to make anything seem appear harmless, and I do not wish to imply that all of the WSS was harmless.
However, since when did WSS instead of Allgemeine SS set up Concentration Camp guards?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 15-04-2009, 11:04:17
ok, Here are some more thing from my collection, coulnd post earlier cous of an important visit of 2 good friends.

2 british civilian masks first. Both are in perfect condition.
(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/9918/dscf0078z.jpg)
(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/1953/dscf0079u.jpg)
(http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/1047/dscf0080o.jpg)
(http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/3193/dscf0081g.jpg)

And an american optical gasmask used for operating ships gunoptics during gasattacks.
(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/5086/dscf0082f.jpg)
(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/2493/dscf0083b.jpg)
(http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/2708/dscf0084l.jpg)

Next are some bullets and leftovers. The coroded ones are a dug up .303 and mauser clip. The fat one next to the .50 is a boys .55 round. never fired.
(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/6108/dscf0086m.jpg)
(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/4880/dscf0088e.jpg)
(http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/5715/dscf0089x.jpg)
(http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/6840/dscf0090c.jpg)
(http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/8961/dscf0092a.jpg)
(http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/6449/dscf0093b.jpg)
(http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/747/dscf0094q.jpg)
(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/7484/dscf0097r.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 15-04-2009, 11:04:39
Next are me collection of belgian army and civi masks. The last one is a French one.

(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/9811/dscf0132inh.jpg)
(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/3123/dscf0133w.jpg)
(http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/6172/dscf0134vef.jpg)
(http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/1641/dscf0135q.jpg)
(http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/8239/dscf0136s.jpg)
(http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/9881/dscf0139e.jpg)
(http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/6577/dscf0143t.jpg)
(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/7906/dscf0145x.jpg)
(http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/9841/dscf0164e.jpg)
(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/739/dscf0165z.jpg)
(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/917/dscf0167h.jpg)
(http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/1338/dscf0168o.jpg)
(http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/4641/dscf0169v.jpg)
(http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/3474/dscf0170ynu.jpg)
(http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/6348/dscf0173c.jpg)
(http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/5452/dscf0174r.jpg)
(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/2480/dscf0175l.jpg)
(http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/4832/dscf0176v.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 15-04-2009, 11:04:21
Next are some of my modern masks from the 80's ans 90's. These are for fun things like scaring the S out of people like going for a drink in full NBC outfit, of runnen trough a train like that, always fun :D

(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/1959/dscf0248o.jpg)
(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/5189/dscf0249i.jpg)
(http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/338/dscf0250q.jpg)
(http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/6091/dscf0251q.jpg)
(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/4937/1000377j.jpg)

Next up wil be some of my rifles, but have to take pictures of them first.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 22-04-2009, 16:04:50
NECRO!

Got a question.

If you have some rusty old thing from WW2 that has spend 65 years under the muddy Dutch soil how do you preserve it? Clean it and grease it? Or are there better ways? Grease makes such a mess you know and the air itself will degrade it even more when just plain.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: MK on 22-04-2009, 17:04:14
(http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/4203/granats.th.jpg) (http://img18.imageshack.us/my.php?image=granats.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 22-04-2009, 18:04:54
NECRO!

Got a question.

If you have some rusty old thing from WW2 that has spend 65 years under the muddy Dutch soil how do you preserve it? Clean it and grease it? Or are there better ways? Grease makes such a mess you know and the air itself will degrade it even more when just plain.

As far that i know the best way to remove rust from metal on a lazy way is by using eletrolysis. After that you just put some oil on it to prevent it from rusting again.
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/andyspatch/rust.htm (http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/andyspatch/rust.htm)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 23-04-2009, 04:04:10
Get some Ovenoff, or a similar product.  Spray all over, and it'll remove the rust VERY quickly.  Then, Hoppes gun oil should preserve it well. 
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 23-04-2009, 06:04:25
SKS and AK

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v213/Jeremiahthor/SANY0091.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: FlyGuy45 on 23-04-2009, 06:04:50
Muddy, do you get your tanks, etc, from that guy with the giant museum? Since he sorta died, who got his stuff?

Defekt: Also, is that a real panzershreck you have!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 23-04-2009, 06:04:08
We only got one tank from him, a Stug3G, and he decided to be an idiot and try to tow his truck out of the mud at a battle.  Needless to say, you don't do that with a 60 year old engine.  THe transmission on the Stug blew up, he blamed us for his stupidity, and refused to fix the engine.  So yeah.

And the schreck is a repro, a real one would be tens of thousands of dollars, and not legal in california :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: FlyGuy45 on 23-04-2009, 06:04:44
We only got one tank from him, a Stug3G, and he decided to be an idiot and try to tow his truck out of the mud at a battle.  Needless to say, you don't do that with a 60 year old engine.  THe transmission on the Stug blew up, he blamed us for his stupidity, and refused to fix the engine.  So yeah.

And the schreck is a repro, a real one would be tens of thousands of dollars, and not legal in california :P

I see. And who gives you the Tiger?

Watch the language, he's dead show some respect. ;-P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 23-04-2009, 06:04:04
The tiger was privatly owned by the 1st SS, but they sold it to the guys back east:P  We do, however, have a Hetzer (and another in the works), several half tracks, 2 stuarts, 2 shermans, a lot of mortars and arty, russian T_34-85, Panzer 3, 222 and 232 armoured car, etc....:P  Sadly, its never all at a single battle, due to the blood feud between the leadership of the WW2RPS and the CHG :(
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: FlyGuy45 on 23-04-2009, 06:04:06
The tiger was privatly owned by the 1st SS, but they sold it to the guys back east:P  We do, however, have a Hetzer (and another in the works), several half tracks, 2 stuarts, 2 shermans, a lot of mortars and arty, russian T_34-85, Panzer 3, 222 and 232 armoured car, etc....:P  Sadly, its never all at a single battle, due to the blood feud between the leadership of the WW2RPS and the CHG :(

What are those 2 groups?

We don't have much over, unless you told me where that Tiger is. I live east. I know Aberdeen thing is in Maryland and another private museum is near me too.

http://www.museumofworldwarii.com/Tour.htm
This is near me.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 23-04-2009, 07:04:32
The Tiger is owned by, I believe, the Grossdeutschland reenactment unit on the east coast.

The CHG is the California Historical Group, and the WW2RPS is the WW2 Research and Preservation Trust.  Originally, there was only one organization, but then there were disagreements in the leadership, some units went one way, and some went the other.  The WW2RPS is now more or less North Cal and Oregon, and the CHG is middle and south cal.  I belong to both, and a bunch of the newer reenactors since the split who don't care about the leadership's problems with each other jump between the two.  I belong to the 21st Panzer for CHG, and the 6th FJ for WW2RPS.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 23-04-2009, 11:04:35
Can these tanks "shoot"? I always wondered how these reenactment groups got such heavy equipment and I´m pretty impressed by them (especially the Hetzer, one of the finest vehicles in WW2 IMO). Too bad we don´t have such organisations here, atleast not in your size...
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 24-04-2009, 09:04:26
I always wanted to join a reenacting groep. And i know witch one i want to join, the only problem is i dont have the money to do so at the moment. Its a big starting cost.

Things i still have to take pictures of:
Mauser K98k
Lee Enfield No4 Mk1
Mauser 1924/30 .22 trainer. Serial 302 and matching numbers, even on the stock :D

EDIT: what was i thinking, No3 Mk4?? fixed now :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 25-04-2009, 00:04:05
Mauser 1924/30 .22 trainer. Serial 302 and matching numbers, even on the stock :D

Want to part with it?  Maybe a trade?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 25-04-2009, 01:04:42
Can these tanks "shoot"? I always wondered how these reenactment groups got such heavy equipment and I´m pretty impressed by them (especially the Hetzer, one of the finest vehicles in WW2 IMO). Too bad we don´t have such organisations here, atleast not in your size...


Nah, they can't shoot, per california laws:P  But some of the ones in the other states can still fire, at least ones owned by class 3 people.  One guy in arizona has a jap 90mm howitzer he rents out at class 3 gun ranges at 20 bucks a round :P  He brings it to battles here with the japs sometimes, firing blank rounds.  Looks very impressive.

@ siben, if you tell me what impression you wanna do, I could send you links for a basic impression at as low a cost I can muster...:P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 25-04-2009, 11:04:34
I just got it so sorry :) And its not THAT special, its just a regular belgian army training rifle from the 50's. of witch the model is a 1924/30.


Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 29-04-2009, 01:04:36
Some items added for Atmosphere... The uniform of a Lt. Drex...Didn't know him personally, just a friend of the family.
(http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/1913/img1299w.jpg)
(http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/664/img1300l.jpg)
(http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/8403/img1301y.jpg)
(http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/3408/img1302b.jpg)
Bullet Impact
(http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/5193/img1303dic.jpg)
(http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/7749/img1305x.jpg)
M1 Helmet, 1911 Pistol, A picture of my uncle-i think-who was in the war, and a medic bag.
(http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/9741/img1308.jpg)
I have another (Non-dress uniform) of Drex's. You guys want to see it?

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 07-05-2009, 04:05:24
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJpTkh9zRK4&feature=channel_page

My new toy, she breathes fire :D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Ionizer on 07-05-2009, 09:05:39
When you first posted your 'shrek I thought "Damn, get some model rocket engines in that thing and make it awesome!" and was going to post it, was sure if it would be legal.  But you must have read my mind, or somehow we thought the same thing and you did it anyway.

Awesome.

EDIT:  On an unrelated note, I just added the word "thoguht" into my spellchecker as a real word by accident.  For whatever reason, I cannot remove it.  My fingers are apparently incapable of typing the "ough" sequence of letters correctly, and in my rush to correct it, I added the word "thoguht" into the dictionary I use in Firefox to underline misspelled words so I can fix them.  I tried uninstalling and then reinstalling the dictionary, but it didn't work.  I hate my stupid fingers...
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 07-05-2009, 21:05:59
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJpTkh9zRK4&feature=channel_page

My new toy, she breathes fire :D

Sweet. Has anyone told you you look like Yahtzee Crowshaw?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: FlyGuy45 on 07-05-2009, 21:05:32
More The Warrior, more!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 07-05-2009, 21:05:10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJpTkh9zRK4&feature=channel_page

My new toy, she breathes fire :D

Sweet. Has anyone told you you look like Yahtzee Crowshaw?

No, but I'll take that as a compliment.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 07-05-2009, 21:05:30
Nice one!
What´s its weight?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Biiviz on 07-05-2009, 22:05:30
Sweet. Has anyone told you you look like Yahtzee Crowshaw?

(http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/thumb/7/74/Nahtzee.gif/95px-Nahtzee.gif)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 07-05-2009, 22:05:50
Nice one!
What´s its weight?

18.6 lb, or 8.5kg.  Since this is the shieldless type, that's about spot on to the real weight.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 08-05-2009, 11:05:19
Alright, not bad. I hope we´ll see that beauty soon in action. And thanks for that explanation at Youtube ;)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 16-05-2009, 10:05:33
Here are finaly some pictures of my rifles. If you have questions just ask them.
(http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/781/p1000776.jpg)
(http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/3795/p1000780.jpg)
(http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/9911/p1000783.jpg)
(http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/7275/p1000784.jpg)
(http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/4619/p1000785.jpg)
(http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/1856/p1000787.jpg)
(http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/6106/p1000788.jpg)
(http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/1216/p1000789.jpg)
(http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/9526/p1000790.jpg)
(http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/71/p1000791.jpg)
(http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/8235/p1000792.jpg)
(http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/3272/p1000801.jpg)


And a vid of me shooting the mauser and enfield.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Le5P4rPAq4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Le5P4rPAq4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDr8nSnoQUQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDr8nSnoQUQ)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 16-05-2009, 11:05:15
GET ME A PHOTO OF THE CREST OF THAT m24 RIGHT NOW.

If it's the same kind as mine....Well

You're a VERY lucky person.

If its not.

Well

Its still a beautiful collection :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 16-05-2009, 11:05:44
Its not that special, its a 1952 FN made mauser 1924/30 .22 trainer with 1000 made.
Sorry for the blurry picture tough.
(http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/9687/p1000786.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 16-05-2009, 18:05:42
Oh, darn :(  I was thinking it might be one of the Venezualian M24s, those are quite valuble>__<

Still, very cool :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: SeanRamey on 24-05-2009, 01:05:43
Here is an American shirt from WW2. (sorry for odd color...camera takes oddly lit pics inside. Color of shirt is actually olive drab)(http://C:\My Documents\Picture 001)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 24-05-2009, 01:05:56
The gun shop in my town has 4 guns I want:
A Springfield 1904 A1
A Kar 98 K
A Thompson M1A1 SMG
And a Mosin-Nagant.

If I were to purchase all of these, it would come to around $5000.
($1200 for the Thompson and $800 for the Mosin alone) Should I fork up the cash?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 24-05-2009, 02:05:02
Are you even class 3 lisenced for the thompson?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 24-05-2009, 02:05:39
I'll buy it, then I'll get the liscense. Besides, The Soverignty of Michigania has no gun laws.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: verg_6 on 24-05-2009, 02:05:03
*sigh* My folks had an M1 Garand...before the old man had the thing sold off. However, they do have a set of matching WWI helmets; A Doughboy and a German coal-scuttle, complete with original camouflage painting. Will post pics later after I visit.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: verg_6 on 24-05-2009, 02:05:42
SKS and AK

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v213/Jeremiahthor/SANY0091.jpg)

Wow, the AK isn't a Type 56 like I expected. What make is it?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 24-05-2009, 02:05:50
I'll buy it, then I'll get the liscense. Besides, The Soverignty of Michigania has no gun laws.

No, you can't.  If its a full auto thompson, you need to apply for the Class 3 FEDERAL (not state) lisence, wait for the year long background check, get your fingerprints taken, approval of sheriffs dept, etc....  Then you can start going through the purchasing fees and forms, and mailing in the 200 dollar stamp tax to the government, plus doing the DROS transfer fees and other goodies.

Also, aren't you like, 15?  If so, you can't buy any of those.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 24-05-2009, 02:05:24
Shit. 
My grandfather would spring for it, but he dosn't have that kind of time. Or money.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 24-05-2009, 03:05:43
BTW, that better be a sniper scoped Mosin, or else they're ripping your ass off.  Mosin nagants are only worth about 100 bucks, give or take for condition and make.   And how does it get to 5000.  If tommy gun is 1200, and the mosin (hopefuilly scoped) is 800, that's only 2000.  And a K98k is only worth 400 bucks, probably less depending on condition.  So that's one really expensive Springfield, considering they're only about 700 bucks or so, unless it too is scoped.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Sir Apple on 24-05-2009, 03:05:01
I'm content with my beautiful (you can't deny it) Garand.

Though I'd love a nice K98, and of course a K31.

K31> all bolt action rifles.  :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 24-05-2009, 03:05:30
K31> all bolt action rifles.  :)

Yes.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 24-05-2009, 03:05:16
no, The mosin is only $80. To buy a new bolt, mount and PU scope would be a lot more expensive. as of right now, it is not scoped.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 24-05-2009, 03:05:32
Quote
The gun shop in my town has 4 guns I want:
A Springfield 1904 A1
A Kar 98 K
A Thompson M1A1 SMG
And a Mosin-Nagant.

If I were to purchase all of these, it would come to around $5000.
($1200 for the Thompson and $800 for the Mosin alone) Should I fork up the cash?

So how do u get to 5000 bucks for a 80 dollar Mosin, a 1200 dollar tommy gun, a K98k worth about 400, and a springfield worth 700 or so?


Just trying to make sure that store isn't ripping people off....
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 24-05-2009, 03:05:20
USED MOSIN NAGANT M 44 M44067264 762X54 CARBINE W/BAYONET (RUSSIAN) $109.95

USED MAUSER 98 8MM 9607   $395.00

ENFIELD1917 CUST CO 16451 458LOTT W/LEU1.5X5   $1,150.00

USED SPRINGFIELD M1A 308 088699 STD SNIPER W.ADJ COMB BOX, MAG & SCOPE MT $2,175.00

USED THOMPSON M1A1 W/DRUM MAGAZINE $1200

THE WARRIOR'S LOVE: PRICELESS

I also found they had a Luger, an Arisaka (with a US bullet hole in it! USA! USA!), and a Chinese SKS.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 24-05-2009, 03:05:19
They're ripping people off on the P17, and the Mosin.  A M44 carbine is worth like, 70 bucks, the P17, maybe 500-600.  The springfield seems ok, since it has scope.  K98k, prob ok, depending on condition.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 24-05-2009, 03:05:27
Well, It comes with a bayonet!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Sir Apple on 24-05-2009, 03:05:40
Forget the K98, forget the Springfield, and especially forget the Mosin Nagant.

Forget them all, and get a K31.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 24-05-2009, 03:05:11
The M44 has a built in bayonet, like the SKS.  So if it came without one, it would be damaged goods :P


And yes, agreed with Sir Apple.  The K31 is the best bolt action on the market...mmmm....

<3 my K31
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Sir Apple on 24-05-2009, 03:05:23
Its a shame it was never really used in combat (right?). A flawless(!) rifle like the K31 deserved to be a combat "hardened" rifle.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 24-05-2009, 03:05:34
eh, I don't really like it. I'd much rather have a McMillan Tac-50.  Holds the world record for the farthest kill at 1.51 Miles.
(http://render64.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/tac50-package.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 24-05-2009, 03:05:51
Wat.


There's no comparison.  That's a sniper rifle, we're talking battle rifles....
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Sir Apple on 24-05-2009, 03:05:56
eh, I don't really like it. I'd much rather have a McMillan Tac-50.  Holds the world record for the farthest kill at 1.51 Miles.
(http://render64.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/tac50-package.jpg)

That is a mentally insufficient sniper rifle, good sir. We are talking about battle rifles... the ones that count.

EDIT: Wait, is that a BB gun?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 24-05-2009, 03:05:25
A Canadian sniper in Afghanistan made the longest recorded sniper kill in history with this weapon. On a March afternoon in 2002, Corporal Rob Furlong of the Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry (PPCLI) killed an enemy combatant from 2,430 meters (12.0772 furlongs/2,657 yd/1.509 miles) with American 750 grain Hornady A-MAX very-low-drag bullets. It is the longest-ever recorded kill by a sniper in combat, surpassing the mark of 2,286 meters set by U.S. Marine Gunnery Sergeant Carlos Hathcock during the Vietnam War.
The McMillan Tac-50 sniper rifle is produced in Phoenix, Arizona in the United States by the McMillan Brothers Rifle Company. This long-range anti-materiel/anti-personnel weapon is based on previous designs from the same company, which first appeared during the late 1980s. McMillan makes several versions of .50 caliber rifles, based on the same proprietary action, for military, law enforcement and civilian use.

The Tac-50 is a military and law enforcement weapon, which, designated as the C15, is the standard Long Range Sniper Weapon (LRSW) of the Canadian Forces since 2000. Rifles of the Tac-50 family are capable of outstanding accuracy and guaranteed to provide 0.5 MOA groups with match grade ammunition.

The McMillan Tac-50 is a manually operated, rotary bolt action rifle. The large bolt has dual front locking lugs, and its body has spiral flutes to reduce weight. The heavy match-grade barrel, made by Lilja barrels, is also fluted to dissipate heat quickly and reduce overall weight and fitted with an effective muzzle brake to reduce recoil. The rifle is fed from detachable box magazines, holding 5 rounds each. The stock is made from fiberglass by McMillan Stocks, and is designed to be used from a bipod only. The buttstock is adjustable for length of pull with rubber spacers, and can be folded to the side or removed for compact storage. The rifle has no open sights and can be used with a variety of telescopic or night sights.

In Canadian service, the standard telescopic sight is a 16X Leupold optical sight. McMillan also endorses the Nightforce NXS 8–32x56 Mil-dot telescopic sight for the Tac-50.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 24-05-2009, 03:05:30
That's nice.  Its still a sniper rifle, not a battle rifle.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 24-05-2009, 03:05:49
Do you not see the part where it said it served combat, was a part of the Afghan war, and is the sniper rifle of Canada's military.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 24-05-2009, 03:05:46
Its a sniper rifle.  A battle rifle is a rifle that is issued commonly, en masse, like the K98, M1 Garand, or Mosin Nagant.  The K31 was, and still is, the best bolt action battle rifle.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 24-05-2009, 03:05:20
A Battle Rifle or Main Battle Rifle is a full-size select fire rifle designed for military use that fires a high-power rifle cartridge such as the U.S. .30-06 Springfield, the Russian 7.62x54mmR, or the 7.62x51mm NATO cartridge. 'High power', in this instance, refers to a combination of velocity and bullet weight; these cartridges commonly employ bullet weights of at least 147 grains (9.5 g) and velocities in excess of 2,600 feet per second (790 m/s). The term battle rifle is usually given to post-World War II selective-fire infantry service rifles such as the H&K G3, the FN FAL, the ArmaLite AR-10, or the American M14.
 
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 24-05-2009, 03:05:00
Think on it like this.  Comparing that sniper rifle to a K31 is like comparing this:

(http://www.militarypictures.info/d/273-2/Dragunov.jpg)

To this:

(http://cannoneerno4.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/ak47.jpg)

One is made specifically for sniping.  One is made specifically for combat troops en masse.  Another example:

Compare this:

(http://www.vandykerifles.com/images/custom-rifle2.jpg)

to this:

(http://www.americanweapons.us/images/K98.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 24-05-2009, 03:05:45
An airsoft SVD to a AK-74?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 24-05-2009, 04:05:45
An airsoft SVD to a AK-74?

Fine, there, found a real SVD.

You still don't get it.  You're comparing apples to oranges.  You're comparing a sportscar to a sedan.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 24-05-2009, 04:05:48
Definition:

A Battle Rifle is a full-size select fire rifle designed for military use that fires a high-power rifle cartridge.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Sir Apple on 24-05-2009, 04:05:05
An airsoft SVD to a AK-74?

Dude, stop being difficult.

Jesus christ man, a sniper rifle is not a battle rifle. Its a rifle designed for a specialized type of unit.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 24-05-2009, 04:05:04
That's a modern definition.  IN WW2, a battle rifle was the K98, M1 Garand, Enfield, or such.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 24-05-2009, 04:05:40
Gah! Stop pulling definitions (that you can't verify) from a time period that passed long before you were born out of your ass!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 24-05-2009, 04:05:09
Huh?  Dude, a battle rifle is just that, a battle rifle.  Nowadays, its a select fire assualt rifle.  Back then, it was a semi auto or bolt action.  In WW1, it was bolt action.  In the US civil war, it was a muzzle loading rifle.  In the 1700s, it was a musket.  Do you get my drift?  All you're doing is quoting wikipedia...
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 24-05-2009, 04:05:45
yes. I'm just saying that a battle rifle is something that dosn't have to be issued en masse, but has to at least serve in a battle.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 24-05-2009, 04:05:49
Gah! Stop pulling definitions (that you can't verify) from a time period that passed long before you were born out of your ass!
What does not being born then have to do with it? Last time I checked, that it what the study of history is for.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 24-05-2009, 04:05:32
Dude, in that case, any rifle is a battle rifle.  I can go into combat with a hunting air gun, and say its a battle rifle.  It is NOT.  What we are saying is that the K31 is, by far, the best bolt action battle rifle developed in WW2 era.  That does not make it better then a modern day, finely machined and tuned SNIPER rifle.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Sir Apple on 24-05-2009, 04:05:07
yes. I'm just saying that a battle rifle is something that dosn't have to be issued en masse, but has to at least serve in a battle.

Errr, thats not the correct definition though.

Thats like saying the Civil War means it was a war with civil(civilized) people.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 24-05-2009, 04:05:09
Well, a battle is a part of a WAR. If you just choose to go around shooting people with a BB gun, then that's battery. you have to be a part of a soverign nation, THEN declare formal war on another nation before you qualify to call it a war, and subsequently, its battles.  Then, and only then, can it be called a battle rifle. Otherwise, you're just a crazy person shooting people with a BB gun.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 24-05-2009, 04:05:37
Dear god I can't even begin to deal with the fail involved in these last couple of pages.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 24-05-2009, 04:05:30
Dear god I can't even begin to deal with the fail involved in these last couple of pages.

Neither can I Lainer...neither can I
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 24-05-2009, 04:05:55
yes. I'm just saying that a battle rifle is something that dosn't have to be issued en masse, but has to at least serve in a battle.

Errr, thats not the correct definition though.

Thats like saying the Civil War means it was a war with civil(civilized) people.

No. The southern states officially seceded before declaring war on the union. It was, technically, a war.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 24-05-2009, 04:05:14
....

That's it.

I'm done.


You're an idiot, and there's no if's, and's, or but's about it.

Good day.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 24-05-2009, 04:05:03
Don’t tell God what to do with his dice.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Sir Apple on 24-05-2009, 04:05:37
....

That's it.

I'm done.


You're an idiot, and there's no if's, and's, or but's about it.

Good day.

Me to. This thread doesn't deserve this stuff... I wouldn't mind at all if the last off topic posts were deleted.

Lainer, Mudra, lets all hold hands and hit the clubs.

All I have to say is:

Ignorance is the left lung of stupidity. The Warrior is the heart of ignorance.

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 24-05-2009, 04:05:12
The Confederate States of America (also called the Confederacy, the Confederate States, and the CSA) formed as the government set up from 1861 to 1865 by eleven southern states of the United States of America, each of which had previously declared their secession from the United States. The CSA's de facto control over its claimed territory varied during the course of the American Civil War, depending on the success of its military in campaigning.

Asserting that states had a right to secede, seven states declared their independence from the United States before the inauguration of Abraham Lincoln as President on March 4, 1861; four more did so after the Civil War began at the Battle of Fort Sumter (April 1861). The government of United States of America (The Union) regarded secession as illegal and refused to recognize the Confederacy. Although British and French commercial interests sold the Confederacy warships and materials, no European nation officially recognized the CSA as an independent country.



Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 24-05-2009, 04:05:58
And male seahorses give birth!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 24-05-2009, 04:05:31
...
they do.
"The number of young released by the male seahorse averages 100-200 for most species, but may be a low as 5 for the smaller species, or as high as 1500, with pregnancy lasting from two to four weeks, depending on the species."
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 24-05-2009, 04:05:27
That was a fun little debate. I wished it had ended better, though. Instead, my debating opponents decided to end with insults on my character and intelligence. Ah, what a dark place the internet is.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 24-05-2009, 04:05:31
I think you've done enough on this forum to give the rest of the forum members a clear idea of your intelligence.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 24-05-2009, 04:05:24
You're an idiot, and there's no if's, and's, or but's about it.

I shan't stoop to your level, calling me names, insulting my intelligence! How dare you, sir?!  You turned a debate into something much more than that. When you truly insult someone, nobody knows if you did or not.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 24-05-2009, 04:05:14
Ahahahahhahahahahhaha.


HAhahahahahaahhahahahaha.


Oh god....


Trust me then sir, you have been insulted by us multiple times in this thread.  However, you apparently only picked up on the obvious one.  And now, SIR, I must depart posthaste.  I have many more things to do with my limited time upon this earth then converse with one who lacks the eloquence to truly, ah, hold audience in that vast library that is myself.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 24-05-2009, 05:05:11
so you waste your limited time on earth worring about mimicry of events past?!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 24-05-2009, 05:05:09
Yes, for the study and research of history and all its aspects tend to be far more interesting then the likes of a 15 year old child.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 24-05-2009, 05:05:48
At least one of my limited stature nkows that the most beautiful things in life are not found in a screen!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: verg_6 on 24-05-2009, 05:05:25
Needlessly failed thread has failed.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 24-05-2009, 10:05:31
Mudra, stop making that guy angry. Respect this beautiful thread.
You know better  :(

And Apple, stay out of such discussions, your making it way too funny. And stupid.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Ionizer on 26-05-2009, 07:05:12
To try to almost get this thing back on track:

Here is an American shirt from WW2. (sorry for odd color...camera takes oddly lit pics inside. Color of shirt is actually olive drab)(http://C:\My Documents\Picture 001)

Does anyone else not see this picture? 

Well, quoting it has given me the answer:  He tried to use [img] tags on the address "http://C:\My Documents\Picture 001".  On the off chance that it was an accident or he really didn't know better, I'll offer him this:  You need to upload the picture to an image hosting site like photobucket or imageshack.  We can't see it straight from your hard drive.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Jobabb Jobabbsen on 27-05-2009, 19:05:57
All your stuff fades away compared to my batangas knife. Its green and military looking, aswell as it say Ninhja. Suitable for both ninja and army - fans  ;D
(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f328/ernochka/096.jpg)
(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f328/ernochka/098.jpg)
beat that  ;)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 27-05-2009, 21:05:22
Carcano folding bayonet easily beats that. I don't own one myself though. I did tried to get one but damn some guys sell their arms and legs for it  :P
(http://i25.tinypic.com/rrjzg9.jpg)

I'm collecting money to get this beautiful bayonet. Just look at it (imagine it without terra coloured blade).
It's a bayonet you can fold, genius Italians. You attach it to the rifle and then fold it in so you don't hurt Guiseppe and Pedro standing in front of you.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Jobabb Jobabbsen on 28-05-2009, 00:05:50
Pretty cool   :D   Though i dont see the real advantage , unless it always is attached to the rifle. And i guess its not as solid as a normal bayonet. But as a collectors object its alot cooler than a normal one.
Though it looses some value anyways, since it doesnt say ninja ;)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 28-05-2009, 03:05:38


 You attach it to the rifle and then fold it in so you don't hurt Guiseppe and Pedro standing in front of you.
Isn't Pedro a Spanish name?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 28-05-2009, 10:05:30
He emigrated to Italy.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: SeanRamey on 28-05-2009, 23:05:20
Well Warrior, I support you. Those guys have gave me some trouble too. But I was actually a little wrong that time. Also, you said some stuff about the civil war I really didn't know. I also was wondering from what state you are from. (I from Tennessee)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: ajappat on 02-06-2009, 19:06:15
Here's my Arisaka Type 38. It was made in Kokura, between 1933 and 1940. No information where it was used at ww2, and did it even see any fight. Also small mystery is, how the hell it got here in Finland. ;D

(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s300/ajappat/HPIM0354.jpg)
(http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s300/ajappat/HPIM0357.jpg)
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s300/ajappat/HPIM0355.jpg
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s300/ajappat/HPIM0356.jpg
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 30-06-2009, 18:06:21
Giving this thread a little bump by showing off a part of my collection.

(http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7135/img0848y.jpg)

Just some stuff on I put op on personal display, lol. M40 helmet, original but inside leather and Normandy camo are post-war. A very battered Wilkinson P1907 bayonet with a heavily damaged scabbard, 2 German clips and 1 damaged British clip with 5 pieces of rotten German ammunition and some other rotten German ammunition that shows what time and earth pressure can do to it. On the helmet you see German goggles with the original box next to it and up front we got one good status Turkish 1938 bayonet with scabbard and a pre-war K98 bayonet which spend some time in the ground.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Taranov on 05-07-2009, 07:07:38
Jack from BT-5, founded in Pskov region.
(http://s54.radikal.ru/i143/0907/7b/97f257e09366.jpg)
Still working ;)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [WDW]Megaraptor on 06-07-2009, 02:07:37
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o265/WDW_Megaraptor/DSCN0576.jpg)

Soviet Civil Defense badge made from 1935-1941. The units that wore this badge were called OSOAVIAHIM ("Society of assistance to defense, aviation and chemical") and trained for antiaircraft and anti-chemical weapons duty.

The rest of my meager collection consists of a .58cal Minie Ball found on an American Civil War battlefield in Roanoke Island, North Carolina, a WW2 Christian devotional book once owned by a Staff Sergeant in the US 820th Tank Destroyer Btn., and a piece of the original decking from the battleship USS North Carolina.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Johannes on 14-07-2009, 11:07:00
The latest addition to my collection:

(http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/4072/photo41z.jpg)

Model 1935 French Army canteen, complete with original dark blue wool cover, leather strap, cork, and string holding the cork.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Miklas on 14-07-2009, 14:07:29
Kriegsmarine binocular from February 1941. M.S.S. stands for Marine Signal Station. blc means that it has Zeiss optics. This example is plated with brass beneath the paint and is therefore extremely rare. Also, it is in very good condition.
(http://i328.photobucket.com/albums/l322/miklas84/CIMG0570.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [WDW]Megaraptor on 14-07-2009, 15:07:28
...a WW2 Christian devotional book once owned by a Staff Sergeant in the US 820th Tank Destroyer Btn., and a piece of the original decking from the battleship USS North Carolina.

I just looked up the history of the 820th Tank Destroyer Battalion. The unit was a towed AT gun unit attached to the 106th Infantry Division on December 16th 1944. The 106th was positioned on the front lines in front of St. Vith...right in the path of the 2nd SS Panzer Division.

They converted to M18 Hellcats for the Germany campaign.

The after-action reports are here. (http://820tdbn.org/B_Co_A_A_rpt_Dec.html) Some very intense combat.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Lucidx on 15-07-2009, 04:07:44
I'll take pictures of them tomorrow maybe, (I dont really have access to a camera so I'll have to remedy that soon)
But I have the following

A Mosin Nagant (It's a carbine and I have no idea if it was even issued)
A box with a Swastika on it with 2 clips of ammo inside of it for some rifle (idk what rifle) but the bullets all have swastikas on the primer and the speed loader (metal rim thing)
A Thompson Replica Airsoft gun made by tokio marui

A kind of mismatched american ranger uniform from WW2, Its mostly scattered about in my basement but I know I have - Real boot gators, some bandaliers (no ammo tho) that may be real but probably not, fake replica pants (i think their ranger pants)

I also have a letter written by a kid who fought in WW1, I bought it in an antique store.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: ajappat on 15-07-2009, 18:07:40
A Thompson Replica Airsoft gun made by tokio marui

That doesnt count  ;).
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Lucidx on 15-07-2009, 22:07:45
A Thompson Replica Airsoft gun made by tokio marui

That doesnt count  ;).

Well people were posting pictures of toys in here so i figured I'd mention it  ;)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 16-07-2009, 08:07:11
Try as I might, I was unable to find a single toy in here referenced as militaria :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Lucidx on 16-07-2009, 10:07:48
Thats exactly why I did not reference my Thompson as militaria

I did not in ANY way indicate a replica as being the real deal, in fact, the qualifier 'REPLICA' should have prevented both of you (dofus & dingus) from posting those 2 rude and unneeded comments.

Vonmudra, I believe there was a posted picture of a very crudely designed replica of a panzershreck (or something to that effect) and in no way did the poster indicate in any way weather or not it was 'militaria'. [Tho the picture clearly showed it was a toy]

I however qualified my thompson as being a 'REPLICA' therefore it ISNT MILITARIA AND I NEVER SAID IT WAS.


You guys need to sit back, take a big sip of shut the brackers up and learn how to read.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 16-07-2009, 21:07:16
Crudely designed?  That's a spot on reproduction that I recently purchased, and just modified recently to be able to fire model rocket engines, for usage in historical reenactments with the California Historical Group, and the WW2 Research and Preservation Society.  It is not a "toy," unlike a TOY gun.

Also, what the hell is with your over reacting to every little detail.  I was simply noting that there were no toy references.  Its not a rude comment, neither of ours were.  It was a simple notation.  I've noticed thus far since you've gotten on these forums that you have an extreme tendency to overreacting.  Chill. the fuck. out.  If you at ALL noticed what I said, I said, and I QUOTE

"Try as I might, I was unable to find a single toy in here referenced as militaria :P"

Hm, could that at all have been referencing, say, the idea that you did NOT claim the Thompson as being authentic militaria?  Perhaps, just MAYBE, I was supporting your opinion?  Instead of reading between the lines (something you'll learn you must do to survive on these forums), you over reacted and make a bombastic, RUDE post.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Thorondor123 on 16-07-2009, 22:07:25
Mmh, have I posted this? Anyway: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/Thorondor123/20138.jpg
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Lucidx on 17-07-2009, 01:07:05
Alright Von Mudra, I'm not going to waste my time arguing with you.
You clearly are under the impression that you know everything.

I didn't come here to argue with people about replica guns, I thought someone might be interested to hear what I had but clearly people just find the smallest error and attack it.

I'm sick of fighting with people online.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 17-07-2009, 01:07:41
Mmh, have I posted this? Anyway: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/Thorondor123/20138.jpg

LOL!  I can relate.  I was just going to post some of my crap but I don't feel like looking through this thread to find it all.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 17-07-2009, 03:07:48
Alright Von Mudra, I'm not going to waste my time arguing with you.
You clearly are under the impression that you know everything.

I didn't come here to argue with people about replica guns, I thought someone might be interested to hear what I had but clearly people just find the smallest error and attack it.

I'm sick of fighting with people online.


Arguing?  Do you not get it?  My original statement was SUPPORTING YOUR VIEW.  I was stating that no one had misrepresented a toy as a real gun, thus supporting your view, because you said, quite plainly, that it was a replica airsoft gun.  You had not attempted to misrepresent it at militaria persay.  Instead, you took it as an insult, and duly lashed out in an incredibly rude form, and continue to do so, despite the fact that I am quite plainly, and openly saying that I supported your original view, that you had not misrepresented a toy airsoft gun as militaria.

Now I wish I didn't.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Sir Apple on 17-07-2009, 04:07:58
I'm sick of fighting with people online.

You do realize that people online are just distant friends right?  :)

By the way, Mudra was on your side of the field, so why you are getting so pish posh about nothing is beyond me.

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 17-07-2009, 04:07:38
On other note, here's the only pics we got from the Fort Mac public show reenactment.  We went out with our 2nd Jager impression, complete with bike, panzerfaust, schreck, and a suomi.   Twas very, very fun :D

(http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/2728/l1f7f90f1aac84b888094f4.jpg)

(http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/6171/l233b6e3b9c8e4b868ba0fd.jpg)

(http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/1093/ld910b890eecf4776b8e38a.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Sir Apple on 17-07-2009, 04:07:41
On other note, here's the only pics we got from the Fort Mac public show reenactment.  We went out with our 2nd Jager impression, complete with bike, panzerfaust, schreck, and a suomi.   Twas very, very fun :D

(http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/2728/l1f7f90f1aac84b888094f4.jpg)

(http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/6171/l233b6e3b9c8e4b868ba0fd.jpg)

(http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/1093/ld910b890eecf4776b8e38a.jpg)

I see you - is that thor as well in there?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 17-07-2009, 04:07:42
Yeah, he's the one with the Suomi.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Knoffhoff on 17-07-2009, 04:07:25
Here is a item I wanted to sell lately but sadly nobody was interested in bying. To bad most people go for replicas or let them fool themselfes with trash beeing labeled as original while original stuff can be so exitingly different.

(http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/8146/parka.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Wilhelm on 17-07-2009, 05:07:00
VM, are those gloves for the panzyschreck?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 17-07-2009, 05:07:17
Yep.  I have the early model (without the shield, and a repro shield costs as much as the schreck itself, 400-500 bucks), so I have to use leather gloves, gas mask, and helmet.  When they fired real rockets, the schreck's rocket burned while out of the tube, giving it longer range, but also showering the guy with sparks and noxious fumes.  So, as a reenactor, I must do the same, even though mine is modified to just firing a rocket engine in a mounting inside the tube, and make a big smoke cloud :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Torenico on 17-07-2009, 06:07:17
Mudra, you make me wanna be a reenactor.. damn!

I must get some money!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [WDW]Megaraptor on 17-07-2009, 06:07:31
Yep.  I have the early model (without the shield, and a repro shield costs as much as the schreck itself, 400-500 bucks), so I have to use leather gloves, gas mask, and helmet.  When they fired real rockets, the schreck's rocket burned while out of the tube, giving it longer range, but also showering the guy with sparks and noxious fumes.  So, as a reenactor, I must do the same, even though mine is modified to just firing a rocket engine in a mounting inside the tube, and make a big smoke cloud :P

So nothing actually leaves the tube? Just a model rocket engine, without a model rocket?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 17-07-2009, 07:07:44
Right now, no, but I'm looking into getting some nerf rockets, hollowing out the base, and sticking an engine in there, as with the system I'm using that, that should work perfectly.  The main problem is safety though.  When I fired it while testing out different magnet set ups for the rocket holder, one was weak enough that it shot out the back of the tube, and put a nice dent in the back of our house.  So I'm probably going to get one nerf rocket set up on a test basis, and if it is deemed safe by the CHG board, then I can use that, otherwise, it'll stay a puff gun.  Both have advantages...puff gun is 2 shots, and they have to notice you, but then the tank is dead no matter what (under 100 yards), while the nerf rocket is one hit one kill, but you gotta hit the tank, and they have to notice the hit.  I remember one guy fired a panzerfaust at a stuart, hit it dead on in the side, and they continued on like nothing had happened.  Then at another battle, one guy got 3 kills using the puff gun set up:P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Johannes on 17-07-2009, 08:07:47
Mudra, you make me wanna be a reenactor.. damn!

I must get some money!

Agreed! I've been looking for a job all summer to be able to afford a repro French uniform, equipment and MAS 36 so that I can join the only Californian French group for their first event set in 1940 this October, but to no avail. Numerous applications, constant searching. I've basically given up hope by now. :'(

Although if I really wanted to, I could use my real French uniform components. From what I was told, since 1940 isn't their main impression, rules are a little relaxed. Nobody makes repro mle 1935 shirts and mle 1938 trousers anyway, so any suitable khaki shirt and brown wool trousers might cut it, along with British puttees.

If I use my vareuse or trimmed capote (I think it's a mle 1938 capote that was modified during the war to vareuse length; and it's been at the dry cleaner for a while, so I haven't shown it here yet), and/or the surtout, then I might be able to just compile the uniform in time if I can miraculously find a job quickly. Of course, as a history major and collector of things, I have a great moral qualm about using genuine war-time stuff for reenactment. It's a tough decision I'll have to make soon.

In any case, I would still have to get:

-shirt and trousers (about $120)
-puttees ($15)
-ammunition pouches (probably repro, $70; if I get genuine ones, probably $200 if I go for the model 1916, which I prefer over the model 1937), and, if I'm really picky, the correct 1903/14 waist belt ($30) instead of my 1945 (the only real difference being that the 1945 is a centimeter thinner).
-Repro model 1935 side bag ($55) and/or repro backpack (model 1935 is $65, or the more desirable model 1893 is $225). I might be able to just get away with the side bag, which for combat was the most important, the backpacks often being left behind. In addition, an ANP31 gas mask ($100) is desirable, but not necessary.
-Ankle boots, for which there is only one source that makes repro French ones ($220). Those are extremely pricey for right now though, so I'm hoping I might be able to get away with a repro American WWII rough-out pair ($100), which except for the rubber soles instead of hobnails, looks almost the same. In any case, I need new shoes as my current ones are falling apart, so this is sort of a necessary investment anyway.
-Glasses with circular frames rather than these rectangular ones (my university insurance should cover this...)
-MAS 36 ($400 for post-war, which will probably be the only type I can find).

In other words, if I were to cut as many corners as possible to be able to have the absolute bare minimum (which is never a good thing to do) to participate in a reenactment event this October, it would still cost me around $800, and that's assuming I decide to use the components of my uniform that are genuine historical items, which I probably would not do. If I were to go for full detail comprising entirely reproduction items (not to mention finding a correct MAS 36), I wouldn't be surprised if the total went to $2000. Reenacting is insanely expensive.

Another thing is that for me, who has always been more a collector than an actor, it seems almost a shame to spend so much money on reproductions rather than wait for genuine articles to show up to snatch and then seal away for an eternity in indestructible safes. If money were limitless I wouldn't mind, but alas as a jobless student, it's a very difficult matter.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 17-07-2009, 09:07:14
Things are tough all around, I need a new jump smock, new helmet cover (if I even use my helm, the camo with wire will be a problem...), new bandolier, knee pads, jump gloves hopefully, and I really need my gravity knife.  Grand total, around 350-400 bucks x3

For my other impressions, I need a 80% complete reciever for my Suomi, which is around 250 bucks, plus spare parts I need to assemble, that's another 100 bucks, plus another few hundred to pay a machinist to finish the reciever into a blank fire only reciever.- 700 in the end probably, or so

For Aussie, I badly need to get a desert tunic and bombay bloomers, plus I should get the SMLE at some point.- 450 bucks

For German WW1, I need a new bayonet, gas mask, and great coat by November, if I'm going to attend that battle- 550


God damn I sink so much money into this hobby....


Does the french unit have loaner rifles, of any type?  That would cut 400 bucks off that price tag.  Also, what do the french low boots look like?  I might be able to get ahold of some loaner ones for you, if they look just like normal low boots....  Either way, get as much repro as you can, but if it comes down to it, originals will probably not get harmed in the field.  You'll be surrendering to me of the time anyway  ;)   ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cadyshack on 17-07-2009, 10:07:27
I wonder if anybody does the over-climactic and dramatic "exaggerated" movie death just for kicks (obviously not for public view). It would be hilarious to see a whole squad just stand up and start shaking wildly while a tank coaxes them.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Johannes on 17-07-2009, 13:07:06
Does the french unit have loaner rifles, of any type?  That would cut 400 bucks off that price tag.  Also, what do the french low boots look like?  I might be able to get ahold of some loaner ones for you, if they look just like normal low boots....  Either way, get as much repro as you can, but if it comes down to it, originals will probably not get harmed in the field.  You'll be surrendering to me of the time anyway  ;)   ;D

They didn't mention having any loaner program to me, and even if they did, I doubt they would have any extras for the 1940 time period. Normally they portray the Free French, so their standard rifle is the Lee-Enfield SMLE (for which blanks are more readily available); I imagine if they did have loaner rifles, it would be those, so no good for the event in October. As it is, they might even have a shortage of MAS 36's, as I was told I could even use a Lebel or Berthier if I wanted to.

The French low boots were the brodequins mle 1917, unchanged since the First World War. The American WWI 1917 trench boots were very similar to them, with the hobnail pattern being different. Externally, the brodequins mle 1917 also resemble the U.S. rough-outs of World War II, with, as I mentioned, the sole being the major difference. What I remember reading is often done by French reenactors, is to take the repro rough-outs (or cut off the top of repro double-buckles) and remove the bottom sole, replacing them with hobnails.

Here's a link: http://orkide.club.fr/index.htm (http://orkide.club.fr/index.htm) Go to Uniformes -> L'"habit" -> Scroll down until you see "Paire de brodequins mod 1917"

Because of the impossibility these days of finding repro French boots except for the ones that sell for $220, the unit has told me that any black or brown leather ankle boots without toe caps will work, although with the recommendation that they be hobnailed. But hobnailing them is the hard part. On the other hand, I'm wondering if I'd get away with just wearing the American rough-outs, since externally they're more similar to the French mle 1917 than anything else easily available on the market, with the exception of the soles. But what is more important? External appearance, or the bottom of the shoe? Since the rough-outs are also basically the cheapest repros on the market, they honestly seem to be the best option for me for now.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 17-07-2009, 20:07:07
External appearance, hobs can always come later.  Hobs can be a bitch too, they're hellish to walk on on asphalt and concrete :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 17-07-2009, 20:07:56
Speaking of reenacting, here's what I do:
www.nwta.com

It was free because my grandpappy had everything already made. Frock and all!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 17-07-2009, 21:07:10
I'm going to see my sister's boyfriend's WWII reenactment tomorrow, so I am going to ask about for advice on reenactment!  I want to be a reenactor so bad!  He does French Resistance, 'cause it's cheap, hehe.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 17-07-2009, 21:07:55
Haha.  I actually have a complete volksturm impression just from the clothes in my closet :P  Never done it though xD  Those impressions are always the cheapest in reenacting, but the rifles still cost money :P

CPS, if you get into reenacting, you def need to come to LA sometime and join me in a battle.  You brits just get those little pub shows, we get massive battles :D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 05-08-2009, 04:08:30
Hm, found my camera, so took some pics just now:

First, we have my german officer's sword.  No scabbard, I'm working on getting one for it, but its in pretty good condition, and also has 2 cut rubys for the eyes of the lion:

(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/3186/img0400t.jpg)

(http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/8466/img0399n.jpg)

(http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/8438/img0401q.jpg)


Then, we have a civil war officer's dress presentation sword.  Its a non regulation, private purchase sword, for one Hugh Clemens, of Manchester, Iowa:

(http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/9942/img0403ncy.jpg)

(http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/3995/img0404r.jpg)

(http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/7383/img0410u.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 18-08-2009, 22:08:31
Just got a late birthdaygift from my local shooting range. A box of 1936 made 7.92x57 German S.M.K. (armour piercing) amunition including the 15 rounds. I knew they would give me some special rounds for my mauser so i was hoping for P.M.K. (armour piercing incindiary) but still, I am verry happy with this since it must have been a pain to find.

Pic wil probably be uploaded tomorow.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sheikyerbouti on 18-08-2009, 22:08:24
 Can those still be fired? The brass must be corroded to shit by now. If not, then you can find ammo on Ebay all the time as i have seen all kinds of incendiary and armour piercing bullets listed.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 18-08-2009, 22:08:19
On the outside the bullets look in perfect condition, no way of telling ofcourse how they look inside. But considering they are prewar, and german made i think the chances that they stil perform decent is pritty high.

It is illigal to buy or sell amunition or firearms online in Belgium. Ebay has nothing even related to firearms in Belgium (ok, you can find cleaning kits and straps and so, but nothing else) and i dont think we have a specialized site for selling weapens or amunition. All the amunition you do find on other ouction sites always have powder removed and no fireing cap, and often even punctured brass. And shipping them over from the states isnt really an option since anything other than a standerd round isnt realy that legal here :s
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Torenico on 19-08-2009, 06:08:48
Haha.  I actually have a complete volksturm impression just from the clothes in my closet :P  Never done it though xD  Those impressions are always the cheapest in reenacting, but the rifles still cost money :P

CPS, if you get into reenacting, you def need to come to LA sometime and join me in a battle.  You brits just get those little pub shows, we get massive battles :D

What did you... say... volkssturm?

I love volkssturm.. i wanna be there. And now.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 19-08-2009, 08:08:24
xD

My volksturm impression is:

Gew98 rifle
WW1 ammo pouch
Prong belt
WW1 trousers
low boots
button up plaid shirts
leather coat
black fedora
armband

:P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Biiviz on 19-08-2009, 09:08:17
xD

My volksturm impression is:

Gew98 rifle
WW1 ammo pouch
Prong belt
WW1 trousers
low boots
button up plaid shirts
leather coat
black fedora
armband

:P

Pics!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Johannes on 20-08-2009, 04:08:38
xD

My volksturm impression is:

Gew98 rifle
WW1 ammo pouch
Prong belt
WW1 trousers
low boots
button up plaid shirts
leather coat
black fedora
armband

:P

Fedora is awesome!

But I would vote for replacing the Gewehr 98 with a Carcano 91 for awesome randomness factor. Get a Carcano!

I should totally do an F.F.I. impression once/if ever I finish my 1940 stuff. I already wear a flat cap almost every day.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 20-08-2009, 05:08:30
Pay me the few hundred dollars and I'd get the Carcano :P  Until then, its Gew98 for me.

And blah...I'll try and get some pics this week or next....  I'm doing a reenactment this weekend (Ostfront) so I do have to go digging through all my things anyways....
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 21-08-2009, 14:08:00
Here is a pic of the Armour Piercing bullets.
(http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/9742/p1010782w.jpg)
(http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/46/p1010781m.jpg)


EDIT: Ok, i have no clue why they weren't working, reuploaded them so lets hope it works now.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Ionizer on 21-08-2009, 18:08:26
Where?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 21-08-2009, 18:08:24


I should totally do an F.F.I. impression once/if ever I finish my 1940 stuff. I already wear a flat cap almost every day.
Hehe, I do an F.T.P. impression because it doesn't cost much money.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: FlyGuy45 on 21-08-2009, 18:08:40
FFI, FTP?

Errg?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Johannes on 21-08-2009, 18:08:18
FFI, FTP?

Errg?

F.F.I. = Forces françaises de l'intérieur, generic umbrella organization under which all the armed internal Resistance factions were grouped, nominally under the command of French General Koenig (of Bir Hakeim fame) in London.

F.T.P. = Francs tireurs et partisans, one of the Resistance groups, in this case the very large and powerful one under the direction of the French Communist Party.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 21-08-2009, 18:08:31
FFI = French forces of the interior.

FTP = Franc-tireur partisans.


FTP were communists.


Edit: Curses.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 22-08-2009, 17:08:46
Would like to make a small correction, while doing some research on my newly acquired bullets i decided to also check what the exact meaning was of the lettering on some other mauser bullets that i accedentely dug up.
I tought that the Mauser clip in the pic was from WW2, while it appears to be made by Gruneberger Metalwarenfabrik in between 1916 and 1918. The casing is made out of 67% Copper and 33% Zinc. Makes em even more special to me now :D

(http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/6449/dscf0093b.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 23-08-2009, 15:08:45
This isn't really militaria, but Johannes, if you want a really good and extremely cheap FFI impression, check out your local salvation army, I got the whole impression, minus of course webbings, weapons, headgear and the like, for under £8!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 23-08-2009, 21:08:32
I'm jealous of everyones weapons and stuff where do you get the war era things? Is there a site or something?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 23-08-2009, 22:08:52
Well ehm, E-Bay for example. Or your local countries web sell-to-eachother website. Dutchies got Marktplaats with a very big militaria department, then theres shops, find those with Google and then you can even find it your self, metal detector and shovel and then you only need to know where to dig.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 23-08-2009, 22:08:53
Do you know of anything like that in the U.s preferably near So Cal?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 23-08-2009, 22:08:44
Sorry, I'm Dutch :P
So Cal is South-California? Maybe ask Von Mudra, he lives in California but California is big so don't know if hes close to you. Anyway, ask him.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 23-08-2009, 23:08:37
Do you know of anything like that in the U.s preferably near So Cal?

Anything like what?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 23-08-2009, 23:08:54
Militaria shops.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 24-08-2009, 00:08:48
Not really...the only good one, Union War Surplus, in San Pedro, finally closed its doors for good this past month :(.

I suggest you use google and ebay.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 24-08-2009, 00:08:30
Argh, 1 month late!  >:(  oh well  Google > Ebay at the moment -_-"
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Taranov on 24-08-2009, 06:08:11
 ::)
(http://s44.radikal.ru/i104/0908/c0/f12b08eb98bf.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 24-08-2009, 07:08:40
Argh, 1 month late!  >:(  oh well  Google > Ebay at the moment -_-"

Well, what, exactly, are you looking for?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 24-08-2009, 16:08:09
Mostly anything in general, I can't exactly buy the bigger things due to my budget being strained
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 24-08-2009, 16:08:46
Hey Von Mudra, I recently acquired a Waffen SS m43 field cap, but there is one thing I am curious about.  The inside is an olive green colour, it looks nice, but is that accurate?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 24-08-2009, 17:08:14
Mostly anything in general, I can't exactly buy the bigger things due to my budget being strained
Maybe bayonets, goggles, ammunition and all that tiny stuff is good for you, bayonets can be very expensive but also fit for low budgeteers like me.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 24-08-2009, 19:08:23
Hey Von Mudra, I recently acquired a Waffen SS m43 field cap, but there is one thing I am curious about.  The inside is an olive green colour, it looks nice, but is that accurate?

Depends on what kinda green...pic?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 24-08-2009, 20:08:01
In lieu of blowing up my computer with my technical ineptidtude, I just googled the colour.  Um, it's a bit like this shirt picture I found.  Kind of a bright olive green.

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c97/riverdancer/IMG_2301-1.jpg)

Ooh, and this plant.  (http://www.sebrightgardens.com/images/hosta/ChineseSunrise_2.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 24-08-2009, 20:08:41
Well, if its a M43 wool cap, then no, that's dead wrong=/  The liner should be like this:

(http://www.lostbattalions.com/german33-45/heer/heerpix/M43HatInterior.jpg)

Basically a very drab, grey, green.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 24-08-2009, 20:08:38
Ooh, and this plant.  (http://www.sebrightgardens.com/images/hosta/ChineseSunrise_2.jpg)

The plant looks cool for some reason xD
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Ionizer on 24-08-2009, 21:08:50
Ooh, and this plant.  (http://www.sebrightgardens.com/images/hosta/ChineseSunrise_2.jpg)

The plant looks cool for some reason xD

It's like some sort of hat that the Swamp-Thing would wear.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 24-08-2009, 21:08:36
(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/8743/img2183wao.jpg)
Reproduction US Army Medic bag. Also pictured: German Goggles.
Accurate?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 24-08-2009, 21:08:30
Some old pamphlets. I'm too lazy to post all of them. Also, my camera is 9 megapixels, so the pictures are huge.

Found them in the breast pocket on an old Ike jacket. Belonged to a Lieutenant Drex. (His uniform and other pictures are on page 8 )

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/5535/img1373aje.jpg
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/1812/img1374q.jpg
http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/654/img1375v.jpg
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/8900/img1376z.jpg
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/6493/img1378j.jpg
http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/4028/img1379jnc.jpg
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/8301/img1380s.jpg
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/3914/img1382c.jpg
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/379/img1383n.jpg
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/3286/img1384r.jpg
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/4789/img1385nfk.jpg
http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/5866/img1386t.jpg
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/2294/img1387t.jpg
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 24-08-2009, 23:08:34
(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/8743/img2183wao.jpg)
Reproduction US Army Medic bag. Also pictured: German Goggles.
Accurate?

In the background, that looks like my pillow
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 25-08-2009, 00:08:04
Medic bag is ok I guess, I donno much about US gear.  The german goggles are good though.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Neverdies on 27-08-2009, 21:08:42
Oh, VonMudra here! Nice to meet you  ;)
Don't know if some of you remember me, I was on the old FH2 forum. I was always complaining about FH2 ugly bunkers and Afrikakorps player model skins LOL

Thanks to Siben, I discovered this thread! Love it already (the thread, not Siben hahaha)

So, here some pictures from "my" collection (mine and my father collection). I posted these pix and more in the walkaround thread to help the devs.

US army

The most common radio within the USarmy: the SCR-609 (TM 11-615).
(http://uppix.net/2/b/4/59548cf8c0f9a8a9334945145cc80.jpg)

USarmy Coca-Cola box.
(http://uppix.net/9/7/8/5b5b8c50ecdf70b6311dad9402dd0.jpg)

Cartridge box.
(http://uppix.net/0/f/4/70678fad9ec0871aa9e079e4f8f48.jpg)

45 auto colt cartridge box. (the top of the box is missing)
(http://uppix.net/5/c/6/a8d165c458b04ed0f9bd9578193fa.jpg)

Dried whole milk ration box.
(http://uppix.net/4/2/8/9bae0a146c84bd018f8513f5e8419.jpg)

German army

MG42 tripod & Zf40 optic
http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?topic=1153.0
(http://uppix.net/c/a/a/45d3c2e19dc94a9cdb5eb6eaf768e.jpg)

Gewehr 43 pouch magazine (yellow leather type)
(http://uppix.net/7/4/f/ea687fcccb3590e5caa2ded62215d.jpg)

German grenade launcher
(http://uppix.net/2/5/9/659e8a55c7c9369067ef3c7f4089b.jpg)

Civilian

Old French car: automobiles Peugeot. (from a friend of us)
(http://uppix.net/7/6/0/c905f998a1a25e96f0123241142d7.jpg)
My Peugeot and the old one ^_^ LOL.
(http://uppix.net/d/0/9/c2f2dfe830e44da339f0f4dc82e2f.jpg)


The old peugeot look pretty cool, it works?

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Taranov on 27-08-2009, 21:08:11
(http://s45.radikal.ru/i107/0908/e8/960de06dfdf8.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 27-08-2009, 21:08:43
you always post cool stuff, taranov, but you never offer any explanation.  I can tell that it is a rusted out M1 helmet, but why is it in a field, whose is it, where did it come from, what's its history?  It's enigmatic. I could spend years guessing all of its possible backstories.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 27-08-2009, 21:08:18
it looked like an american helmet from that angle...
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Taranov on 27-08-2009, 21:08:02
Where it comes from?

Shumshu, Northern Kurils.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 28-08-2009, 15:08:28
it looked like an american helmet from that angle...
Didn't notice the star on the front? It's quite clear  :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 28-08-2009, 16:08:54
oh, I see it now. *facepalm*
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 02-09-2009, 05:09:20
And, now, for my September 1st Commemorative post, MORE of my WWII memorabila!


WARNING: LARGE IMAGES





(http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/8694/img1269q.jpg)

(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/9140/img1270weq.jpg)

(http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/4250/img2194m.jpg)

(http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/922/img2196a.jpg)

(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/5040/img2199s.jpg)

(http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/9216/img2200u.jpg)

(http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/1140/img2201q.jpg)

(http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/7386/img2202g.jpg)

(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/8625/img2203ixk.jpg)

(http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/725/img2204g.jpg)

(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/2144/img2207kvn.jpg)

(http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/8194/img2208.jpg)

(http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/6519/img2209z.jpg)

(http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/8094/img2210.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 02-09-2009, 05:09:40
Holy shit, use SPOILERS and size them DOWN on imageshack!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 02-09-2009, 05:09:32
there, resized them with the forum code.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Ionizer on 02-09-2009, 05:09:14
Holy shit, use SPOILERS and size them DOWN on imageshack!

This forum doesn't have spoilers.  But you can use the code below to resize your pictures to not stretch the forums and not eat bandwidth like a frikkin black hole:
Code: [Select]
[img width=780][/img]
Warrior, please use that code anytime you post a large picture instead of the standard tags.  Especially when you post a picture from your camera.

EDIT:  Wow, (http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s166/Ionizer_1/Random/ninja.gif)'d by the Warrior himself.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 02-09-2009, 05:09:30
i just resized them! look at the code!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Ionizer on 02-09-2009, 05:09:06
Yeah yeah, good job.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 02-09-2009, 05:09:01
That's better, nice stuff.  Though that marine cap ain't WW2 :P  Still nice though.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 02-09-2009, 05:09:56
it ain'---oh, wait. That symbol's been silkscreened on. Oh, that's right, I bought it from a Vietnam vet at a garage sale.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 02-09-2009, 20:09:11
Hi, here are some bayonets that decorate my grandfathers house. the first one was used as a farming tool between the wars but has its origin as a German WW1 bayonet. Its pretty rusted but has a good overall condition. The other one is a WW2 Belgian and French bayonet in 100% perfect condition. The pics are low quality cous i took em with the camera on my phone.
(http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/5792/p0209091558.jpg)
(http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/9995/p020909155801.jpg)
(http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/3126/p0209091559.jpg)

Enjoy :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 03-09-2009, 14:09:54
Nice Lebel bayonet, don't see them that much in such good shape. And if they are in good shape the scabbard is missing or something else  :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 04-09-2009, 02:09:28
My next exhibit is really quite extraordinary. I'm uploading them now, and I hope you'll enjoy them.  I found these at my grandparent's house, and I was astonished at their condition as you will soon see.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 04-09-2009, 03:09:46
WARNING: LARGE IMAGES




First up, a leather case labelled "T. J. Vernon." I am not sure wether this is the original packaging or not. The name is not familiar.

(http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/9020/img2212n.jpg)

Inside Are two full Packs of playing cards. This is the Green set:

(http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/268/img2217i.jpg)

Here we see the second set-STILL IN ITS ORIGINAL PACKAGING! It is red instead of green.

(http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/1927/img2221b.jpg)

Next up is a survival handbook for pilots--Printed in 1943!

(http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/4657/img2232e.jpg)

A few pages from the Inside:

(http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/2978/img2233a.jpg)

(http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2089/img2235r.jpg)

I am extremely glad I found this, as nothing like this has been posted on here.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Ekalbs on 04-09-2009, 05:09:02
comment

edit; nice glove....
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 04-09-2009, 07:09:36
Kinda cool....I will see if I can bug my parents to get some of my grandfathers stuff from WWII.  I do recall a book that even in 4th grade I found extremely racists that he had from his time in the pacific.  It was a hardcover book about the Japanese as I recall.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 04-09-2009, 14:09:46
You guys know why an american pilot survival kit has a deck of cards with all the other stuff?

They are there because if you have crash landed and you end up waiting for someone to pick you up. You just have to start playing solitaire with those cards and then theres always someone looking over your shoulder and pointing out which card goes where.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 14-09-2009, 19:09:14
Time to revive this again. Just posting my lovely collection of rusty pieces. A part of this has already been posted but just posting everything again so I don't forget anything. Not that it's that entertaining or special lol..

Anyway, here we go:
(http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/8180/militaria1.png)
1. Some .303 ammo we dug up here, captured at Arnhem by the Germans, blown up at the end of the war.

2. Bren magazine, found near Arnhem.

3. Entrenchment tool, bit rusty and you can't see it well on this picture, 1 side is in good shape other side is rotting away, pityfull.

4. British canteen, 80% of the paint is still one while it spend 65 years in the ground, found close to the Bren magazine and that one is extremely rusty/rotten :P

5. German helmet, I think M40? Not sure.. Helmet itself is original, new inside, new Feldgrau paintjob, later Normandy field paint added.

6. German goggles, little box on the left is the box for storing it.

7. Some stripper clips, German and British with some more old rounds.

8. A dragonfly, when I found it, it was neon green, now it's brown..

Now the other side..

(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/231/militaria2z.png)

1. .303 rounds pushed together by earth pressure. Fascinating, Mother Nature.

2. Bayonet for the Kar98k, pre-war version, spent some time in the ground but looks pretty well.

3. Turkish 1939 Mauser bayonet, scabbard is the other 3.

4. P1907 bayonet for the SMLE, scabbard is broken, bottom piece missing. Pity!

5. The pigsticker with scabbard, found near Arnhem.

6. British pocket knife, 1943, good shape.

7. Rusty and ruined Kar98k bayonet, someone once glued it to the wall, I restored it partially, much to be done..


Well as you see I like things rusty and old, lol. Then I'm atleast sure it has a history.

Anyway, hope this entertains someone, it atleast took away my boredom.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 24-09-2009, 02:09:47
I have come across another great find: an issue of Liberty Magazine published September 2nd, 1944.

http://img132.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=img2301o.jpg


There are 40 of these pictures.




(http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/3797/img2301o.jpg)

(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/4083/img2302xf.jpg)

(http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/461/img2303j.jpg)

(http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/5633/img2304gc.jpg)

(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/3910/img2305ny.jpg)

(http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/56/img2306q.jpg)

(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/540/img2307k.jpg)

(http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/1277/img2308mc.jpg)

(http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/7016/img2309d.jpg)

(http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/6263/img2310cl.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 24-09-2009, 02:09:42
 (http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/9056/img2311h.jpg)

(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/2939/img2312jc.jpg)

(http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/8071/img2313pm.jpg)

(http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/5836/img2314py.jpg)

(http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/407/img2315o.jpg)

(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/8957/img2316w.jpg)

(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/6837/img2317a.jpg)

(http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/2451/img2319.jpg)

(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/56/img2320bl.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 24-09-2009, 02:09:50
 (http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/654/img2321x.jpg)

(http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/1954/img2322xl.jpg)

(http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/7793/img2323b.jpg)

(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/2102/img2324k.jpg)

(http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/5797/img2325q.jpg)

(http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/2564/img2326e.jpg)

(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/6105/img2327hg.jpg)

(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/3560/img2328mh.jpg)

(http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/5412/img2329.jpg)

(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/5492/img2330c.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 24-09-2009, 02:09:46
 (http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/6510/img2330m.jpg)

(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/5148/img2331rh.jpg)

(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/6848/img2332bg.jpg)

(http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/8057/img2333p.jpg)

(http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/6123/img2334ux.jpg)

(http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/1224/img2335m.jpg)

(http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/8207/img2336a.jpg)

(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/8892/img2337s.jpg)

(http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/1705/img2338xg.jpg)

(http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/9127/img2339c.jpg)

(http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/6112/img2340dw.jpg)

(http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/9923/img2341r.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 24-09-2009, 03:09:57
hope you enjoyed these. If you want the originals, i'd be happy to send them to you.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Tiemann on 24-09-2009, 03:09:04
Gotta ask, whats with the American flag behind every picture. I realize your all super patriotic and stuff but it would be easier to read the pages if the pic was just of the book. :P

Does look interesting though thanks for posting.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 24-09-2009, 03:09:58
Gotta ask, whats with the American flag behind every picture. I realize your all super patriotic and stuff but it would be easier to read the pages if the pic was just of the book. :P

Does look interesting though thanks for posting.

Its a lot better to look at than dirty carpet or 120 year old hardwood flooring.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Tiemann on 24-09-2009, 04:09:05
No my point is to leave out the background and just have the picture covering the book lol.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 24-09-2009, 09:09:53
Wow, now I remember how badly my bump failed.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: NikolaiNL on 24-09-2009, 09:09:31
got nothing fancy, some WW2 German war money and an empty german cigarette box. I do have quite some things from the period the Dutch occupied Indonesia (medals, army manuals, soldiers footlocker and more) which I inherited from my grandfather. Will take/post some pictures if somebody is interested.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Invincible on 24-09-2009, 10:09:35
Time to revive this again. Just posting my lovely collection of rusty pieces. A part of this has already been posted but just posting everything again so I don't forget anything. Not that it's that entertaining or special lol..

Anyway, here we go:

Well as you see I like things rusty and old, lol. Then I'm atleast sure it has a history.

Anyway, hope this entertains someone, it atleast took away my boredom.

Ey Fush, did you looked with metal detectors?
I always wanted to go search for some old world war two stuff, I only have no ID where too start.
Maybe you can help me on the way? Locations, where too search etc.

Jasper
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 24-09-2009, 12:09:18
I did that, yes. Well, don't go to the obvious spots like around a bunker, everyone has done that. Ask around where was fought alot and try to get maps of the area.

I'm not a professional but close to my village there was an ammo storage and alot of bullets are still there, with such knowledge you can easily start.

I'm sure there are people who do this more often then me, there are also Dutch relic hunter forums, maybe open a thread there.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: luftwaffe.be on 24-09-2009, 19:09:07
technically, go onto any random field in the area around ypres (around the westhoek), and you'll come home with a bag full with bullets and shells.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Invincible on 25-09-2009, 09:09:12
technically, go onto any random field in the area around ypres (around the westhoek), and you'll come home with a bag full with bullets and shells.

I'm not going for the bullets and shells, I want the bigger stuff hehe.
Yeah I think I'm just going to give it a try.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: luftwaffe.be on 25-09-2009, 19:09:40
that is ofcource, much much harder. Most of the time you'll find bullets. If you want stuff like helmets, I advice you to try and find out the exact location of the trenches build. Westhoek still would be the best one.

Alternatively, you can try in places there where skirmishes in the ardenes. Do note that a helmet or a belt emblem would be regarded as a very nice find. Most of the time you'll find junk. And don't expect to find like a V1 or aircraft. You only can recover aircraft parts if you know where they crashed, and if you're lucky it was on a low angle (which is never for a V1 ). Otherwise, it was drilled to deeply in the ground(sometimes up to 6-10m), and you can't recover anything with your cheapass detector and shovel. 
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 25-10-2009, 22:10:08
Got myself 2 new toys today:

K31 (finally) from 1952, 100% matching numbers and dousn't even have as much as a scratch. I expect it so shoot perfectly and when it does i am thinking of scoping this one up so i can snipe me some rabbits :p

No5 MkI (F) "jungle carbine", made 7/1947, Very nice condition, the numbers on it match accept the magazine. The bayonet mound has been cut off tough, don't know if that was common practice, not a big problem tough, bought it for like €200 under the price, was a but uncertain if it was a real or not but i checked some stuff and it seems it is original (numbers on it matches with the correct time/serial number, and has some differences on the reciever/bolt and so that are not on the other enfields, is also electropencilled..)

Overal had a good day :p
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 25-10-2009, 23:10:55
Lovely :)  I would honestly suggest not scoping the K31, they weren't exactly designed for that, the the sniper version was heavily, heavily modified.  But that's up to you :P

The Jungle carbine is cool, if you shoot it, do know that it has a wandering sight, ie, it doesn't land on target a lot, so just know that if you go shooting and it does that, that that's how they were, its not a defect of the individual gun :P

Post pics btw! :D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Pascucci the Whiner on 25-10-2009, 23:10:04
Got myself 2 new toys today:

K31 (finally) from 1952, 100% matching numbers and dousn't even have as much as a scratch. I expect it so shoot perfectly and when it does i am thinking of scoping this one up so i can snipe me some rabbits :p

No5 MkI (F) "jungle carbine", made 7/1947, Very nice condition, the numbers on it match accept the magazine. The bayonet mound has been cut off tough, don't know if that was common practice, not a big problem tough, bought it for like €200 under the price, was a but uncertain if it was a real or not but i checked some stuff and it seems it is original (numbers on it matches with the correct time/serial number, and has some differences on the reciever/bolt and so that are not on the other enfields, is also electropencilled..)

Overal had a good day :p

Don't scope the K31! Especially if it's like new, my fathers is in great condition except for the stock.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 25-10-2009, 23:10:10
K, wont scope it then, I still want a scoped rifle tough, would love to go out sniping once on the 1000m Military course. But it would be stupid to try it with regular ironsight :s I probably would not even hit a 5*5 meter sqaire.

And as long as it shoots ok groups then i am happy :)

Pics should come when i find my camera and have time take em, maybe this week, definatly next week :)

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 27-10-2009, 11:10:01
Finally got my Suomi and Emma a long waited friend:

(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/7442/dsc0045lf.jpg)

Stamped in 1943.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Thorondor123 on 27-10-2009, 12:10:21
We need a family portrait!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Biiviz on 27-10-2009, 13:10:09
Flippy - is it deactivated?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 27-10-2009, 13:10:08
It is.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 27-10-2009, 15:10:28
Deactivated guns make Fuchs sad  :(
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 27-10-2009, 18:10:01
They make me happy since they are only form of weapons I can acquire in here.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Schneider on 27-10-2009, 18:10:05
You could try to go get a hunting license and persuade the officials that this weapon with automatic fire mode is the only efficient way to hunt down bloodthirsty reindeers. Or griffins, hydras or whatever strange animals live in your funny country up there.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 27-10-2009, 19:10:24
Absolutely I can always try and persuade, but that aint gonna happen here.  :P

Besides, Im just happy with the deactivated ones, they are for display anyways. So wtf are you guys whining?  :P

I say you are just jealous. ;)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Pascucci the Whiner on 27-10-2009, 19:10:58
In order to have an activated on in the US it has to be so heavily altered that I wouldn't want it.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Biiviz on 27-10-2009, 19:10:02
I have a hunters license so I could buy one if it was semi auto only. Alternatively I could try to convince the authorities that I need an automatic weapon for some reason ::) or convince them that I'm going to start collecting. I'm guessing I'd have to be a part of some historical association and/or gun club for that to happen.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Schneider on 27-10-2009, 19:10:03
Absolutely I can always try and persuade, but that aint gonna happen here.  :P

Here neither. :) The only chance to obtain functional automatic weaponry here (apart from police forces etc., obviously) is to gain a collectors license which is relatively hard to get.
 I didn't mean to whine though, unlike the dutchman above me.

I say you are just jealous. ;)

You have very well hit the nail on the head here sir.  :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 27-10-2009, 19:10:16
Indeed. It's a bitch here.  And I gladly satisfy to deactivated guns as long as you cant see from the outside that they are deactivated. To me they are just expensive yet very cool display collectables. :)

Oh and of course its important that the mechanism still works that you can dry fire it or remove the magazines. I at first thought the PPSH's magazine is welded/glued but I took a screwdriver and noticed that its just really tight fit in the holder. Therefore it can be removed after all...

SMG friends http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/5787/dsc0047j.jpg

Heh, dont worry Schneider. :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Schneider on 27-10-2009, 19:10:48
Dont worry Schneider. :)

But I do! I want one too!  >:(
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Thorondor123 on 27-10-2009, 19:10:14
Enough of this banter. We are still waiting for that family portrait. :p
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 27-10-2009, 19:10:55
I didn't wanted to whine, jeez, is this the Grumpy Old Man Forum? Anyway, they just make me sad, you got this old World War Two weapon in perfect shape and then because of some silly paranoid law ("You will kill peoples with it we are surez!") it gets ruined..
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 27-10-2009, 19:10:49
I hope your from Belgium. If not then the poor rifles are deactivated. I hate our laws, kills beautiful rifles.
Not anymore. Their is a large list( it might be you who posted it) of Bolt action rifle's wich are allowed in Belgium

Just stay away from Any weapons after 1943 introduction and their issent an issue
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Admiral Donutz on 27-10-2009, 23:10:34
Finally got my Suomi and Emma a long waited friend:

(http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/7442/dsc0045lf.jpg)

Stamped in 1943.
Deactivated or not, sweet!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 27-10-2009, 23:10:01
I might have missed a page but that PPSh-41 is just plain amazing  :o
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cpl. Mallard on 29-10-2009, 02:10:45
Just some stuff I have in my room, not too much, but it's interesting.

Sten Mag + Sten Cleaning kit
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m66/prestonmallard/sten.jpg)
Some .50 cal shells picked up from beach front South Carolina where the Tuskegee airmen performed target practice (I stuck the bullets inside the empty casings)
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m66/prestonmallard/tuskegee50s.jpg)
German gas mask with canister
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m66/prestonmallard/gasmaskwithcannister-1.jpg)
German gas mask in action...mmmmm Asbestos...*coughs up blood all over the eyepiece*
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m66/prestonmallard/germgasmask.jpg)
Assorted U.S. Field dressings
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m66/prestonmallard/alliedfielddressings.jpg)
German Bandage
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m66/prestonmallard/gerbandage-2.jpg)
DP 1928 Drum, don't remember how I got it???
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m66/prestonmallard/dpdrum.jpg)
Unopened U.S. Field Dressing
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m66/prestonmallard/bandageunopened.jpg)
I opened it! I know I shouldnt have but wanted to see the Sulfa! (by the way, it's like a powdered form of tear gas! :'(
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m66/prestonmallard/usbandageopened.jpg)
SULFA!!!!
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m66/prestonmallard/sulfa.jpg)
My U.S. stuff: canteen, M1 carbine clip + the magazine pouch that goes on the stock, shoe dubbing, U.S. Airborne medkit!!! Rare find!
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m66/prestonmallard/US.jpg)
My great uncles WWI 18 in. Springfield Bayonet, scabbard is WWII.
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m66/prestonmallard/springfieldbay.jpg)
Lee Enfield stripper clip found at site of 1st Battle of Ypres
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m66/prestonmallard/paschindaleenfield.jpg)
Mosin Nagant 18 in. spike bayonet, Lee Enfield bayonet and authentic British belt with bandoliers. (That's my deer hunting rig)
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m66/prestonmallard/enbaymosbay.jpg)
My pride and joy, the trusty old SMLE No.1 Mk.III* (fully operational I might add, no offense meant on the PPsh, I think thats raw deactivated or not!)
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m66/prestonmallard/enfield1-1.jpg)
The BEAST... 1943 Mosin Nagant M91/30
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m66/prestonmallard/mosin1.jpg)
WWI U.S. doughboy helmet
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m66/prestonmallard/WWIdoughboy.jpg)
WWII German Helmet
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m66/prestonmallard/gerhelmet.jpg)
Sign on helmet, anybody know what it signifies...MUDRA???
(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m66/prestonmallard/helmeticon.jpg)

Hope that many picture is allowed, if not, SORRY!!!!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 29-10-2009, 02:10:28
Looks like one of the Altoids survival kit tins i've made...
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 29-10-2009, 02:10:41
That's a Wehrmacht eagle.  Just means that the helmet was worn by a guy in the Wehrmacht :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 29-10-2009, 02:10:05
Amazing!  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cpl. Mallard on 29-10-2009, 03:10:29
Yey thanks Mudra, i'm now off to do the Nazi march down my street at 10 o' clock at night with my Wehrmacht helmet on!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 29-10-2009, 03:10:11
Von Mudra, I was just curious:  how common was it for Wehrmacht soldiers to forego helmets for field caps, because in re enactments and films they seem to wear caps almost as much as helmets.  I like the caps for style, but I feel when artillerycame down I would slam my helmet on pretty quick.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Oddball on 29-10-2009, 03:10:20
Yey thanks Mudra, i'm now off to do the Nazi march down my street at 10 o' clock at night with my Wehrmacht helmet on!
Good luck, please keep in mind that it is your sole responsibility for any outcome which may occure do to this event, this including but not limited to: Imprisonment, loss of life, violent rallies, False scares, and WW3.
Disclaimer: The FH community takes absolutely no responsibility for the outcome of one's action and is not obligated to fend for, or other words bail him or her out of jail if needed.  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cpl. Mallard on 29-10-2009, 03:10:35
Hahahaha
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Tiemann on 29-10-2009, 03:10:19
Your SMLE makes me jealous. My grandfather butchered mine and turned it into a farm rifle. The stock has been cut back and the barrel may have been cut back, the front piece is different anyways. Its a mkIII*, i forget the date of manufacture but is was british manufactured.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cpl. Mallard on 29-10-2009, 03:10:56
That's a pity, because they were machined by God himself! I'm sure that ole farm rifle will still shoot the wings off a fly though!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Oddball on 29-10-2009, 03:10:36
I want to see that one (shooting wings off a fly)!  :D  yeah, but no...Lee-Enfields are nice, Not a MK.III but I do have a .303 P14 or P17 don't member which, they so similar, havn't brought it out in ages.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Tiemann on 29-10-2009, 03:10:10
I haven't even fired it yet, i inheareted it before i was 18 and before the gun registration law came into effect so i need to get my firearms license, register it and clean it before i can even get ammo to fire it. It only had 4 rounds when i got it lol, i don't think its been used in twenty or more years.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cpl. Mallard on 29-10-2009, 03:10:10
you might want to look into buying a used or replica stock, it extends the length of the gun, and you'll still have that same action and barrel. I might be able to tell you what model it is if you got a pic.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 29-10-2009, 04:10:02
Yey thanks Mudra, i'm now off to do the Nazi march down my street at 10 o' clock at night with my Wehrmacht helmet on!

Haha, no problem :P

Von Mudra, I was just curious:  how common was it for Wehrmacht soldiers to forego helmets for field caps, because in re enactments and films they seem to wear caps almost as much as helmets.  I like the caps for style, but I feel when artillery came down I would slam my helmet on pretty quick.

Was really up to the soldier, but most of the time they war helmets.  Out here, we mostly require everyone to wear a helmet due to safety, what with the rifle grenades and mortar shells, but when I'm doing Pak gun crew, we tend to all wear soft caps.  In WW2, helmets def were most common, but if the temperatures sky rocketed, some would forego the helm for the cap, and officers sometimes liked to fight with soft cap.  The company commander of Gunther Kosscherack's unit (author of Blood Red Snow) was killed by artillery because he never went into combat with his helmet on.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Tiemann on 29-10-2009, 05:10:41
you might want to look into buying a used or replica stock, it extends the length of the gun, and you'll still have that same action and barrel. I might be able to tell you what model it is if you got a pic.
Its a mkIII*, i think it was made in 1940 but was made by BSA for sure. Its not in my apartment, i keep it at my parents house due to my lack of a license. At some point ill go challenge the test(I dont feel like sitting through an entire saturday course of them telling me how not to do things, ive been shooting since i was a kid on my grandparents farm lol) then ill worry about fixing it up.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 29-10-2009, 12:10:43
  The company commander of Gunther Kosscherack's unit (author of Blood Red Snow) was killed by artillery because he never went into combat with his helmet on.

I remember that well, that was one of the reasons I asked!  I had a lot of sympathy for that chap, I would have been tempted to keep my cap rather than helmet on too.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 29-10-2009, 20:10:06
Some pics of my newest toys.

No5 MkI, Jungle Carbine:
(http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/203/p1010844w.jpg)
(http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/6220/p1010845.jpg)

having trouble uploading pics, will try again tomorow.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 29-10-2009, 20:10:53
What a beauty! Don't tell me your adress or else I'll sleep walk to your house, take it and then dry hump it somewhere.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Tiemann on 29-10-2009, 21:10:07
I want it, i imagine that thing would have some nasty recoil.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 29-10-2009, 21:10:10
lol, thanks guys, my E-penis just doubled :D

I was thinking the same, it feels so much lighter then my No4 MkI, the recoil must be hell, like probably hard enough to bruise me, but that wont stop me from trying to shoot it :D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cpl. Mallard on 29-10-2009, 23:10:23
Is it deactivated?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 30-10-2009, 00:10:12
Just lovely :D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 30-10-2009, 00:10:14
Is it deactivated?
Nope, Sibens stuff is still alive.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cpl. Mallard on 30-10-2009, 02:10:26
MMMMMMM, love me some legit Enfield, MMMMMM!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 30-10-2009, 11:10:52
Yes, it is still very much alive and i will probably go and shoot it in 2 weeks. Depends if i get my paperwork back on time. I always find it funny that you have to buy the weapon first, and then ask for the license.

Also, if i would have just had some extra money, i would have bought something way cooler, They actually had 2 WORKING!! Mg34's for sale in perfect condition for only €1430 each. And as a Belgian i am one of the only nationality's in Europe that was allowed to buy it. On a collectors permit. There is no way in hell i could have shot it legally in the country tough since all automatic weapons are illegal to shoot, but still, would be cool:p

Here are some pics of the K31:
(http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/9526/p1010834f.jpg)
(http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/3064/p1010835j.jpg)

Also, does anyone have a clue of what the T27 on the enfield stands for? Who were they?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 30-10-2009, 18:10:33
Kinda stupid if you ask me to have legal full auto weapons but having it illegal to actually take them to the range :P  Still, I do wish we had a collectors license here in the USA....  The closest we have it "curio and relics license", but that does nothing but let you buy and sell guns easier with less paperwork.=/

Beautiful K31 btw :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Tiemann on 31-10-2009, 01:10:42
Finally got some pics of my SMLE. Anyone know if they made carbines out of MKIIIs or weather its just sporterized.


(http://img149.imagevenue.com/loc576/th_50471_IMG11_122_576lo.jpg) (http://img149.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=50471_IMG11_122_576lo.jpg)(http://img150.imagevenue.com/loc368/th_50475_IMG283_122_368lo.jpg) (http://img150.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=50475_IMG283_122_368lo.jpg)(http://img157.imagevenue.com/loc499/th_50482_IMG858_122_499lo.jpg) (http://img157.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=50482_IMG858_122_499lo.jpg)(http://img230.imagevenue.com/loc472/th_50492_IMGP0513_122_472lo.JPG) (http://img230.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=50492_IMGP0513_122_472lo.JPG)
(http://img149.imagevenue.com/loc136/th_50498_IMGP0514_122_136lo.JPG) (http://img149.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=50498_IMGP0514_122_136lo.JPG)(http://img181.imagevenue.com/loc576/th_50503_IMGP0515_122_576lo.JPG) (http://img181.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=50503_IMGP0515_122_576lo.JPG)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 31-10-2009, 02:10:39
Aye, its just heavily sportorized.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Kading on 31-10-2009, 03:10:36
all navy gear

foul weather jacket

kevlar flash hood

cold weather helmet liner

ballistic flight deck goggles
(http://i565.photobucket.com/albums/ss100/SMIDSY_87/IMG_0150.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cpl. Mallard on 31-10-2009, 05:10:50
What Navy uses this?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Oddball on 31-10-2009, 05:10:34
United States Navy
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Kading on 31-10-2009, 07:10:22
none of those would ever be used in the same uniform.

the cap is for ship's security forces

the goggles are for flight deck helmets

the flash hood is for firefighting

and the foul weather jacket is to be worn with coveralls in adverse weather and will keep you warm when its well below freezing outside
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Rawhide on 31-10-2009, 17:10:09
So, guys.

Where can one find a Afrika Korps jacket? The tropical M40 is the right name maybe.

Where can I find one and at a good price
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Oddball on 31-10-2009, 17:10:51
Black market may carry them? Other than that I don't know what to tell you... (J/king  ;D)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 31-10-2009, 18:10:52
So, guys.

Where can one find a Afrika Korps jacket? The tropical M40 is the right name maybe.

Where can I find one and at a good price

http://www.hessenantique.com/German_Tropical_Uniforms_s/634.htm
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Rawhide on 31-10-2009, 18:10:44
Yeah that was the place I checked earlier

Any other options? If no, you got any input on Hessen, Mudra?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 31-10-2009, 19:10:47
Well, I'm trying to keep it cheap for yah:P  But ok:

http://www.lostbattalions.com/german33-45/heer/heercotton/ArmyM40TropJkt.html

Hessen stuff is good quality though, so it would be good for yah.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Rawhide on 31-10-2009, 19:10:02
Alrighty, thanks a lot Mudra! <3
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 31-10-2009, 21:10:06
NOw if you want to get them looking good and aged, I suggest you run it through the wash a bit, wash it in salt water too.  Also, if you can, get some of the German gas attack Salve tablets, like these:

http://www.1944militaria.com/original_personal_items.htm

About middle section, they're originals.  Newly arrived soldiers would take the tablets, drop a few into a bucket of water, and wash the uniform in that.  It bleached it out, and thus made it look more like the uniforms of the guys who had been there fore awhile ;)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 31-10-2009, 22:10:16
If I would buy a Hessen jacket and bleach it that would hurt me so much from the inside. 'There goes your money, Fuchs!!'
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 31-10-2009, 23:10:23
Why?  That's just changing it from brand new to looking correct ;)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 31-10-2009, 23:10:57
It's being correct in an over the top way, your freaking bleaching a 245 dollar jacket, that hurts!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 01-11-2009, 01:11:05
Says you to the guy who runs around in a 200 dollar smock, a 100 dollar pair of trousers, a 50 dollar shirt, and 400 bucks worth of gear, 200 dollar shoes, etc..., getting it torn by thorns and bushes and the dirt, bleeding on it from cuts and scrapes, spilling food on it, getting it covered in grease, grass stains, and lord knows what else.  It comes with the terrain, and helps to make it look more authentic.  It would look idiotic to be running around in mint condition uniforms when we're portraying combat soldiers.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 01-11-2009, 09:11:03
No, I don't do that  :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 01-11-2009, 17:11:20
Wouldn't the real soldiers have received it new and then worn it down in the field, like you said?  Wouldn't it make sense to have that naturally happen rather than do it yourself?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Pascucci the Whiner on 01-11-2009, 17:11:56
That's what I was going to say pyjama shark. When I join the 197th Guards I'll be a total N00B (a private), wouldn't it make sense for my uniform to look new early on? Oh, and one more question, is one uniform enough?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 01-11-2009, 18:11:29
Yes, of course, and that's why we let it wear down in the field.  What I was saying with the gas tablets is that german soldiers actually DID wash them with the gas salve in order to make their uniforms look aged.  It results in a rather unique colouration, and is something they did before they ever saw combat, because they didn't want to stick out as replacements with the bright olive green.  So while its cool to let most uniforms be bought new and age in field, the tropical Heer uniforms look much better when you do the gas salve wash, as that is, honestly, what the new replacements did to their uniforms.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 01-11-2009, 18:11:05
Ah, I see what you meant.  Still I would never have the guts to do that because I'd probably fuck something up.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 01-11-2009, 18:11:14
How can you fuck something up, you throw some gas salve tabs into the water, let them dissovle, then soak the tunic in that water for awhile :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 01-11-2009, 18:11:43
the only thing i have, is a Belgian field bandage of 1962......

Once i"m living on my own (and i have an mutual agreeing GF), i want to start a collection of Bolt action rifles, as all Bolt action rifles and other semi-auto weapons before 1942 are legal to keep in Belgium withouth a license
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 01-11-2009, 18:11:31
How can you fuck something up, you throw some gas salve tabs into the water, let them dissovle, then soak the tunic in that water for awhile :P
I dunno, I'd probably end up setting it on fire or something.  :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 01-11-2009, 18:11:50
@Pyjama: Thats like my lil brother trying to make cereal.

@Tao: Ha, I plan the same thing and whenever I get a new gf thats the first thing i settle
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 01-11-2009, 18:11:21
I can imagine the first contact


" You know i really like you, we are made for eachother


By the way, Do you like Old World war 2 Rifles hanging on the wall???"
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Admiral Donutz on 02-11-2009, 17:11:41
"What's the problem? You got a dozen shoes lined along the wall, I got a dozen rifles lined ON the wall. I call your shoe and handbag collection crazy, you may find my collection crazy, but I promise you aslong as you don't make me wear your stuff I won't make you use my rifles". =p
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 02-11-2009, 17:11:47
Nothing like a beautiful woman holding almost as beautiful weapon...

 :-*

EDIT: Haha this reminds me of that one POTD back in Filefront Forums... someone (sorry whoever it was for forgetting you) posted a picture that had two very fine russian nurses or were they even soldiers posing infront of a light tank. And everyone were trying to figure out which tank that was in the background, totally ignoring the ladies who were equipped with very nice warm smiles.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Ciupita on 02-11-2009, 17:11:51
EDIT: Haha this reminds me of that one POTD back in Filefront Forums... someone (sorry whoever it was for forgetting you) posted a picture that had two very fine russian nurses or were they even soldiers posing infront of a light tank. And everyone were trying to figure out which tank that was in the background, totally ignoring the ladies who were equipped with very nice warm smiles.

nerds... :D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 03-11-2009, 01:11:31
When I get a house and whatnot, I'll have a secret room and a secret swiss bank account devoted entriely to the beauties. Of course this will be after I build a full scale ratte out of playwood and whatnot...    ;)


Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 04-11-2009, 03:11:40
Meh..Old...But I still have all this junk and then some.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v213/Jeremiahthor/SANY0067.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v213/Jeremiahthor/Picture006.jpg)

I just looked through this thread to see what I already posted so I will put up more crap later.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 04-11-2009, 03:11:57
HOLY SH!T!!!!
HOLY F*CKING SH!T!!!!


OH MY GOD


I AM SO FREAKING ENVIOUS
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 04-11-2009, 03:11:18
Dont ever mention where you live.

*cries from envy and glorious collection
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Ionizer on 04-11-2009, 04:11:46
Lainer lives in Maine, in a nuclear fallout shelter.  He is fully prepared for Nuclear Winter, a Soviet Invasion AND the Zombie Apocalypse, especially if they all happen at the same time.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Oddball on 04-11-2009, 04:11:50
Wouldn't that be the day of our lives.... ::)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 04-11-2009, 05:11:28
Indeed, it would be fun
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Admiral Donutz on 04-11-2009, 13:11:05
*fapfapfap*

;)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 04-11-2009, 13:11:55
If you call it crap and junk, you can always give it to me
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 05-11-2009, 01:11:17
Ha, Donutz


I don't know whether to be worried about you or laugh  ::)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Stefan on 07-11-2009, 02:11:41
Meh..Old...But I still have all this junk and then some.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v213/Jeremiahthor/SANY0067.jpg)

I just looked through this thread to see what I already posted so I will put up more crap later.

that a HK417?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 07-11-2009, 18:11:48

that a HK417?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v213/Jeremiahthor/SANY0174.jpg)

Nope just a couple of AR-15 rifles we built.  Took about a year of buying the little parts and pieces before we could throw it all together and fire them.  Still some other stuff I would like to do with mine but for some reason the wife thinks food and heating fuel are more important then green lasers and cooler looking muzzle brakes. ???
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 07-11-2009, 18:11:49
Who needs food anyways? Woman  ::)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Stefan on 07-11-2009, 18:11:46
are those armalites? so many AR 15 clones out there i cant keep track
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Tiemann on 07-11-2009, 19:11:41
I think ive told Lainer before that in the event of a zombie apocolypse, nuclear winter, ect. I just might show up at his house.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]I.Kluge on 07-11-2009, 19:11:58
I think he'll shoot any of us that show up.
Better bring a white flag and beer as an offering.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 07-11-2009, 19:11:42
Beer? A truck full of booze is the only thing that makes him negotiable.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 07-11-2009, 19:11:28
Nah, a fifth of cheap whiskey will getcha in.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 08-11-2009, 00:11:06
One decides Whisky in fifths? Oh, what I will learn when I turn older.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 08-11-2009, 01:11:50
are those armalites? so many AR 15 clones out there i cant keep track

DPMS Panther lower (what we consider the actual gun in the USA).  The upper, barrel and bolt are from who the fuck knows where.  From what I was told by the guy I ordered from all that crap is made by the same bunch of companies that supply these parts to the guys that supply already built rifles to civilians and the government.  I have a 80 lumen Surefire light on it and a really lame laser that might as well have come out of a crackerjack box.  A cheap Leapers red/green dot sight.  CAA stock.....Forward grip ???...Pistol grip is a used First Samco one that came back from Iraq.  YHM flip up sights...And the really expensive part is the full size predator rail system.  Oh and a magpul plastic mag.  As soon as I get some spare cash though I am getting some of these.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJcjE85A8-A

Practical? No.  Did I watch the movie Aliens a lot as a kid....Yes. 
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Stefan on 08-11-2009, 01:11:36
are those G36 see through mags compatible?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 08-11-2009, 02:11:25
are those G36 see through mags compatible?

I would say no from what I found with google.  G36 mags hook in from the back AK47 and G3 style.  M-16 mags have a little catch in the side.  They do make clear M-16 mags though.  I have a cheap POS one around here somewhere.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Johannes on 08-11-2009, 12:11:54
An update on my WWII uniform image; this was how I dressed for Halloween this year:

I'm getting ever closer to being able to re-enact. Once I acquire the following, I will have completed the necessities:

-mle 1935 haversack (repro)
-mle 1915 ammo pouches (repro)
-ANP 31 gas mask (TC 38 might also be acceptable)
-mle 1903/14 waist belt
-MAS 36 rifle

The last will be the hardest; apparently there is only one gun store that might have one in this entire area.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Ts4EVER on 14-11-2009, 12:11:29
I just came back from the sea where I helped my father getting the boat in for the winter. I found a spent cartridge, labeled "FN 53". I think it's Bundeswehr issue.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Kading on 14-11-2009, 13:11:36
US Navy Watchcap, woodland camo gortex parka, woodland camo tunic and trousers, US Air Force boots of the vietnam era
(http://i565.photobucket.com/albums/ss100/SMIDSY_87/15137_179779943896_616868896_285664.jpg)


PS
all halloween photos from now on should look like this
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Darren01 on 14-11-2009, 14:11:17


PS
all halloween photos from now on should look like this

LOL
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 25-11-2009, 20:11:23
Here is my 1940 BMW R12 Military rig. It was was assigned to Luftzeuggruppe München on Sept 6, 1940.

(http://bmwr12.com/progress/r25.jpg)
(http://bmwr12.com/progress/r26.jpg)
(http://bmwr12.com/progress/r27.jpg)
(http://bmwr12.com/progress/r28.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 25-11-2009, 20:11:08
Nice  ;D  I plan on getting one of those, but if your goipng to drive aruond then be careful with that SS insignia on the liscense plate
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Rawhide on 25-11-2009, 20:11:40
SS sign or no SS sign, beautiful ride I must say
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Nilsson on 25-11-2009, 20:11:47
That second to last picture looks like FH.  :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Admiral Donutz on 25-11-2009, 23:11:17
Awesome mate!  That's a sexy motorbike! :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 26-11-2009, 00:11:53
Nice  ;D  I plan on getting one of those, but if your goipng to drive aruond then be careful with that SS insignia on the liscense plate

You would be suprised that almost no one knows what the SS on the plates are. I have never heard any flak from anyone and we have a very large Jewish community within 10mins of my place.It is always well recieved. It is perfectly legal here in the states to have it on there since it is a historic registered vehicle. I only have them on there because I reenact SS and not Luftwaffe which the bike really is. It is too hard to remove plates especially the rear one since it is part of the rear taillight housing.

I wish they would put one of these in FH..
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 26-11-2009, 00:11:33
Ha, thats pretty lucky.  Most people in the U.S. don't know much about the last 100 years.  At my highschool in california there are a few people who are neo-nazis but they dont even know what the hell its about
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Desertfox on 26-11-2009, 00:11:21
  At my highschool in california there are a few people who are neo-nazis but they dont even know what the hell its about
that's why I don't resapect neo nazis/ any one else who just hate people that much, they don't understand it really.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 26-11-2009, 00:11:49
Indeed.

"Heil hitler!"
Me:"So your a neo-nazi"
"No Im a nazi"
Me:"Right...  Then what is your political agenda?"
"To kill jews"
Me:"Do you even know what the nazi party is about?"
"Killing jews!"


Thats the typical conversation when I attempt to talk to the idiots
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Oddball on 26-11-2009, 01:11:33
Uneducated Fools of Today's society... it's deppressing....really...they shouldn't even join a party/group if they have no idea of it's meaning/origin. I really don't have much faith in my generation... every time I look around and hear stories like :| Hi's it just brings my faith down even more. Hehe, I often ackknowledge Shakespeare as the Hitler of English, where English was a good organization with good intentions, then Shakespeare comes along and ruins the English Language's name, and rains fear on everyone when they hear the name...Shakespeare...they all run, pulling out their matches, getting ready to burn anything that comes thier way with his name on it.  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 26-11-2009, 01:11:19
It's :|, Hi :|   And I'll take my history lessons now, not later


but yes it is sad to be in class reading about great things in history when you've got so-and-so across the room "OMG BECKY! MY BFF JILL JUST GOT HER BELLY BUTTON PIERCED! IM SO JEALOUS" and etc while the other guys are just thinking about when they get to light up
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Smiles on 26-11-2009, 19:11:03
Get in their heads man, most neo-nazis arnt neo-nazies, theyre part of the syndrom called hyesteria. Afraid of anything beyong theyre knowledge and unable to turn 180 degrees. Its no fun but its human. Darn im so fcking 'left' that i try really hard everyday to be as neutral as possible, finding myself on the 'right' wing sometimes. But always grouping up with other 'lefty' people, without ever asking for their political agenda. life is complicated and we should all help eachother in the struggle.

 '' added.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Ionizer on 27-11-2009, 10:11:57
Nice  ;D  I plan on getting one of those, but if your goipng to drive aruond then be careful with that SS insignia on the liscense plate

You would be suprised that almost no one knows what the SS on the plates are. I have never heard any flak from anyone and we have a very large Jewish community within 10mins of my place.It is always well recieved. It is perfectly legal here in the states to have it on there since it is a historic registered vehicle. I only have them on there because I reenact SS and not Luftwaffe which the bike really is. It is too hard to remove plates especially the rear one since it is part of the rear taillight housing.

I wish they would put one of these in FH..

You reenact?  Where?  IIRC, we live in the same state...  Are spectators allowed at WW2 reenactments?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 27-11-2009, 22:11:44
Quote
You reenact?  Where?  IIRC, we live in the same state...  Are spectators allowed at WW2 reenactments?

Yes I reenact with the 9th SS Panzer Division. www.9thsspanzer.com (http://www.9thsspanzer.com)
I believe we do live in the same state except I split my time between 2 of them.


As for events they are mostly in NY and PA. There are some that allow spectators but for the most part they are for reenactors only.My group doesn't bring out certain vehicles to them due to the large expense and effort to bring them.For example the Reading,PA airshow in June is a good place to see stuff but do not expect to see any heavy vehicles there.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 27-11-2009, 23:11:51
As you guys are reenacting SS, do you get many neonazis trying to join?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 27-11-2009, 23:11:40
As you guys are reenacting SS, do you get many neonazis trying to join?

nope
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 28-11-2009, 00:11:47
I didn't expected that. I though that you guys had to kick one of those nuts out in a while. Get out and don't come back!

So they band up together somewhere else? cough south cough?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Ts4EVER on 28-11-2009, 12:11:24
My parents just showed me an old poster my great-grandfather took home from service (it's from 1909). Shows him and an hessian infantry company with lots of old rifles and pointy helmets and stuff. We will try to digitalize it somehow and then I will upload it, it's quite interesting with lots of patriotic slogans around it. Sadly, we haven't been able to identify my ancestor, because they kinda all look the same with the mustaches and shit.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Zoologic on 28-11-2009, 18:11:24
Nice  ;D  I plan on getting one of those, but if your goipng to drive aruond then be careful with that SS insignia on the liscense plate

You would be suprised that almost no one knows what the SS on the plates are. I have never heard any flak from anyone and we have a very large Jewish community within 10mins of my place.It is always well recieved. It is perfectly legal here in the states to have it on there since it is a historic registered vehicle.

There was a Vanessa Amorosi concert in Sydney and they put flyers everywhere with letter "ss" in "Vanessa" stylised in Schutz Staffel double lightning bolt symbol. I bet most of the neo-nazis in the area are pretty much ignorant of the symbol.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 28-11-2009, 21:11:36
Does anyone know where one can get a good authentic, or repro, WWII M26 Adrian helmet?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Biiviz on 28-11-2009, 21:11:51
Does anyone know where one can get a good authentic, or repro, WWII M26 Adrian helmet?

www.goodauthenticorreprowwiim26adrianhelmets.com
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 28-11-2009, 21:11:11
Not eggsactly.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 28-11-2009, 22:11:06
http://www.alexanderandsonsrestorations.com/Home/default.html
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 28-11-2009, 22:11:39
Very nice!  Now I need to save up some cash monies.

Good thing puny American dollar is weak, when set against colossal hugeness of Mother Russia!

EDIT:  Do I have to worry much about helmet sizing?  It says size 56, and I have to admit I completely forget about sizes and all that, I kinda took it for granted that helmets were one size fits all, almost.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Thorondor123 on 28-11-2009, 23:11:30
There's two sizes on helmets. Too large and too small.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 28-11-2009, 23:11:30
Very nice!  Now I need to save up some cash monies.

Good thing puny American dollar is weak, when set against colossal hugeness of Mother Russia!

EDIT:  Do I have to worry much about helmet sizing?  It says size 56, and I have to admit I completely forget about sizes and all that, I kinda took it for granted that helmets were one size fits all, almost.

No no, the one he's selling on that site is finished, but you can order an adrian from him normally, just order, give head size, and what kind you want.  He'll get an original, paint it, do all the work for it, and your set.  For head size, its the circumference of your head in cm.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 29-11-2009, 01:11:29
Just be thankful that you dont need a 68 or 70 German shell. I wear a 68 helmet and another guy in my group has a 70 helmet I sold him and he can not even wear it with anything other then the liner band in it since he has a pumpkin head.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Spencer the Great on 29-11-2009, 02:11:40
Can it be gun time again?
(http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/2038/garand.th.jpg) (http://img694.imageshack.us/i/garand.jpg/)

U.S. Rifle. Cal. 30 M1
Serial number 2,43*,***  Born in January 1944.
Refitted in the 1950s for Korea. Barrel dated 1953 Bayonet is M5A1 (Post war) cleaning kit is post war too. Sling is Danish, Ammo is Greek manufactured.

How much did it cost? $622 dollars delivered to my door( Rifle only). CMP Service grade.

Want your own? See if you qualify!
http://www.thecmp.org/eligibility.htm
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 29-11-2009, 02:11:36
Just be thankful that you dont need a 68 or 70 German shell. I wear a 68 helmet and another guy in my group has a 70 helmet I sold him and he can not even wear it with anything other then the liner band in it since he has a pumpkin head.

I know a guy in my unit who had to cut out the foam padding from his FJ helmet just to fit it on his head xD
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Biiviz on 29-11-2009, 04:11:12
Von Mudra sex me in the ear please.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 29-11-2009, 05:11:31
Your judgement seems impaired.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 29-11-2009, 05:11:04
Von Mudra sex me in the ear please.

I'd rather use your mouth, thank you please :3
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Johannes on 02-12-2009, 16:12:47
Concerning Adrian 1926 helmets:

-The shells come in 4 sizes, from smallest to largest: A, B, C, D. Size D's are the hardest to find (so they say; I haven't run into many A's either though). Because people have gotten quite big since the Second World War, nothing less than a size C will fit most people, and many can't settle for less than a D. For example: I have a size 60 head. With the right liner, I can fit a size C, but it looks a little small, so I prefer the D.

-Nobody makes repro 1926 Adrians as far as I know; there are repro M37 insignia badges, as well as some repro Adrian 1915 helmets.

-Large Adrian 1926 helmet liners are a pain to come by. Repros are even harder to find than originals.

If you want to go cheap, eBay sometimes has good deals. I bought the Adrian I'll be using for re-enacting for $44 plus $14 for shipping: it was a size D, with a repro liner (replaced that; anyway it was too small), a post-war desert tan chin strap (I'll replace that eventually, but nobody will notice for now anyway), and a repro M37 infantry badge (flimsy, but fine to take a beating). Once undusted, I found the remaining original paint to be adequate, and the 1944 Marseille and D stamps were still legible inside. Considering the rarity of the size D, $44 would have been worth it for a naked shell that one would have to restore oneself.

Something to look for if you're going to use it for re-enacting. If you're looking for one to place in a display, however, then of course that wouldn't work too well.

Also, be aware that Adrian 1926 helmets made for the Passive Defense (with DP insignia) are different from standard Adrian 1926 helmets; the DP insignias are fixed in a more permanent manner, and the shells are slightly magnetic.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: djinn on 02-12-2009, 16:12:10
Meh..Old...But I still have all this junk and then some.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v213/Jeremiahthor/SANY0067.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v213/Jeremiahthor/Picture006.jpg)

I just looked through this thread to see what I already posted so I will put up more crap later.

by the power of greyskull!  :o
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Pascucci the Whiner on 02-12-2009, 17:12:49
My father has a small but rather odd collection. He collects weapons made in foreign countries occupied by Germany. I'll inherit most of them. First he has the Radom Vis. 35 with German markings next, he has a FN 1922 32 acp. with German markings and finally he has a CZ. 27 pistol with Nazi Police markings. He also has some of the not so exciting stuff (98k, two Mosin-Nagant 91/30's, Mosin-Nagant M38 and M44, Arisaka Type 99, A Schmidt Ruben I forgot the model, CZ 52, Nagant 1895). I'll try and post some pics after School.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 25-12-2009, 17:12:07
I merged your new thread to the older one 162eRI, no need to make a new one just because you have many photos. It is perfectly fine! :)

Nice stuff you have, I will look more closely at later time when I got a chance. Cheers!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 25-12-2009, 17:12:11
Beautifull collection there. How did you get it? was he a member of the family?

Thats how a friend of me got EVERY signal out there, his greatgrandfather was a member of the Belgian "zwarte brigade" (black bigade?) he even showed me some orriginal letters he had with orders in it.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 25-12-2009, 17:12:46
Well I'll post what militaria my grandma had from being in the french resistance, sorry I couldn't take pictures while I was there due to not having my camera with me so i'll jsut list it.

2 french army helmets, ww2
American "pineapple" grenade (still active  :o )
French helmet with a pickelhaube on it, probably ww1 or before
and a german helmet but I couldn't seem to find any markings besides a 40 and maybe a swastika, the lining looked a bit weird in the helmet though I didn't mess around with the lining due to a particularly nasty looking spider  >:( 
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Oddball on 25-12-2009, 18:12:44
could of used the grenade to flush the spider out...  :D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 25-12-2009, 18:12:09


French helmet with a pickelhaube on it, probably ww1 or before

A French Great War helmet with a German Great War helmet on top of it. That makes sense.  I presume you meant a spike.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 25-12-2009, 18:12:48
There wouldn't be much of a helmet left after that I would think xD


btw, helmet looked to be an M40
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 25-12-2009, 18:12:49


French helmet with a pickelhaube on it, probably ww1 or before

A French Great War helmet with a German Great War helmet on top of it. That makes sense.  I presume you meant a spike.

yeah it had a spike on it but it all looked to be 1 helmet, the spike could have been added on from a german helmet
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 25-12-2009, 18:12:14
(http://www.axishistory.com/fileadmin/user_upload/h/helmet-de-bay-spiked-felt2.jpg)


a quick search on google images of spiked hats and apparently its german
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 25-12-2009, 18:12:13
lmao xD  Get a pic of it....  If it just looks like that, all that means is that its Bavarian :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 28-12-2009, 00:12:53
My greatcoat I got for Xmas. any information you can find about it would be appreciated--cost me $20 US. Click images for larger view.
(http://img148.imagevenue.com/loc364/th_55846_IMG_9554_122_364lo.JPG) (http://img148.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=55846_IMG_9554_122_364lo.JPG)(http://img260.imagevenue.com/loc544/th_55865_IMG_9539_122_544lo.JPG) (http://img260.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=55865_IMG_9539_122_544lo.JPG)(http://img40.imagevenue.com/loc561/th_55886_IMG_9540_122_561lo.JPG) (http://img40.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=55886_IMG_9540_122_561lo.JPG)(http://img265.imagevenue.com/loc589/th_55904_IMG_9541_122_589lo.JPG) (http://img265.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=55904_IMG_9541_122_589lo.JPG)
(http://img144.imagevenue.com/loc553/th_55927_IMG_9542_122_553lo.JPG) (http://img144.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=55927_IMG_9542_122_553lo.JPG)(http://img165.imagevenue.com/loc1060/th_55944_IMG_9544_122_1060lo.JPG) (http://img165.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=55944_IMG_9544_122_1060lo.JPG)(http://img243.imagevenue.com/loc213/th_55964_IMG_9546_122_213lo.JPG) (http://img243.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=55964_IMG_9546_122_213lo.JPG)
(http://img250.imagevenue.com/loc29/th_55985_IMG_9547_122_29lo.JPG) (http://img250.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=55985_IMG_9547_122_29lo.JPG)(http://img192.imagevenue.com/loc1030/th_56008_IMG_9548_122_1030lo.JPG) (http://img192.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=56008_IMG_9548_122_1030lo.JPG)(http://img184.imagevenue.com/loc695/th_56030_IMG_9550_122_695lo.JPG) (http://img184.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=56030_IMG_9550_122_695lo.JPG)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 28-12-2009, 00:12:42
Wow nice collection 162.  How did you get all that stuff?
Title: Re: Militaria Personal Collection
Post by: Cory the Otter on 28-12-2009, 00:12:06
Was move in the right section, thanks!

So, here we go! I already posted some of my (father's) collection pictures in other topics, now I will gather them all here. I will post whatever I can, German (Nazi) or Allies pictures. If I have to hide the svastikas, I will do.

I hope it help the devs or just interest you. If you need something in particular, just ask me and I may have it.

(http://img145.imagevenue.com/loc409/th_54022_kreta_816_122_409lo.JPG) (http://img145.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=54022_kreta_816_122_409lo.JPG)
Arthur Kommossa

I will start today with Arthur Kommossa's pictures. He made his classes in the "RAD" (German National Work Service) before the war. He was "fallschirm-jäger gefreiten" in the "rgt.1" and was wounded in "Kreta" (he broke his leg or something similar). He was repatriated in a "Lazarett" (hospital).

RAD 1939-40
(http://img210.imagevenue.com/loc487/th_54034_rad_122_487lo.JPG) (http://img210.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=54034_rad_122_487lo.JPG)(http://img192.imagevenue.com/loc1192/th_54035_reiter-rgt.1_para_122_1192lo.JPG) (http://img192.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=54035_reiter-rgt.1_para_122_1192lo.JPG)

Training
(http://img229.imagevenue.com/loc71/th_54021_entrainement_122_71lo.JPG) (http://img229.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=54021_entrainement_122_71lo.JPG)(http://img156.imagevenue.com/loc52/th_54027_para_572_122_52lo.JPG) (http://img156.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=54027_para_572_122_52lo.JPG)

Kreta 1941
(http://img265.imagevenue.com/loc478/th_54025_kreta_839_122_478lo.JPG) (http://img265.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=54025_kreta_839_122_478lo.JPG)(http://img258.imagevenue.com/loc215/th_54026_kreta_122_215lo.JPG) (http://img258.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=54026_kreta_122_215lo.JPG)(http://img186.imagevenue.com/loc197/th_54023_kreta_329_122_197lo.JPG) (http://img186.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=54023_kreta_329_122_197lo.JPG)

Lazarett 1941
(http://img19.imagevenue.com/loc2/th_54032_portrait_122_2lo.JPG) (http://img19.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=54032_portrait_122_2lo.JPG)

All its rewards and armbands
(http://img125.imagevenue.com/loc57/th_54014_documents_615_122_57lo.JPG) (http://img125.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=54014_documents_615_122_57lo.JPG)(http://img252.imagevenue.com/loc56/th_54015_documents_521_122_56lo.JPG) (http://img252.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=54015_documents_521_122_56lo.JPG)(http://img208.imagevenue.com/loc132/th_54016_documents_034_122_132lo.JPG) (http://img208.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=54016_documents_034_122_132lo.JPG)(http://img175.imagevenue.com/loc49/th_54018_documents_041_122_49lo.JPG) (http://img175.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=54018_documents_041_122_49lo.JPG)

Kommossa's paratrooper helmet
(http://img148.imagevenue.com/loc241/th_54029_paras_936_122_241lo.JPG) (http://img148.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=54029_paras_936_122_241lo.JPG)(http://img269.imagevenue.com/loc47/th_54031_paras_648_122_47lo.JPG) (http://img269.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=54031_paras_648_122_47lo.JPG)

Its things and "Wehrpass"
(http://img257.imagevenue.com/loc159/th_54019_documents_122_159lo.JPG) (http://img257.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=54019_documents_122_159lo.JPG)(http://img266.imagevenue.com/loc553/th_54036_werhpas_122_553lo.JPG) (http://img266.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=54036_werhpas_122_553lo.JPG)

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Since I'm in holidays and found my old hard driver, I will post more pictures. Here a first world war MG08 dated 1917 and made in Berlin. This weapon is deactivated.
(http://img250.imagevenue.com/loc33/th_55179_DSC00456_122_33lo.JPG) (http://img250.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=55179_DSC00456_122_33lo.JPG)(http://img133.imagevenue.com/loc387/th_55181_DSC00458_122_387lo.JPG) (http://img133.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=55181_DSC00458_122_387lo.JPG)(http://img23.imagevenue.com/loc61/th_55183_DSC00459_122_61lo.JPG) (http://img23.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=55183_DSC00459_122_61lo.JPG)(http://img160.imagevenue.com/loc1184/th_55185_DSC00460_122_1184lo.JPG) (http://img160.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=55185_DSC00460_122_1184lo.JPG)

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Ready to invade England? Luft maps
(http://img229.imagevenue.com/loc544/th_55279_cartes_517_122_544lo.JPG) (http://img229.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=55279_cartes_517_122_544lo.JPG)(http://img11.imagevenue.com/loc531/th_55281_cartes_129_122_531lo.JPG) (http://img11.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=55281_cartes_129_122_531lo.JPG)(http://img201.imagevenue.com/loc146/th_55283_cartes_932_122_146lo.JPG) (http://img201.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=55283_cartes_932_122_146lo.JPG)
(http://img267.imagevenue.com/loc392/th_55287_cartes_653_122_392lo.JPG) (http://img267.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=55287_cartes_653_122_392lo.JPG)(http://img238.imagevenue.com/loc359/th_55289_cartes_122_359lo.JPG) (http://img238.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=55289_cartes_122_359lo.JPG)(http://img121.imagevenue.com/loc112/th_55285_cartes_347_122_112lo.JPG) (http://img121.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=55285_cartes_347_122_112lo.JPG)
    
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I already posted some of them in the old FH2 forum. Feel like re-uploading them was a good idea...
Guess what is what!!! (too lazy, I write the descriptions later xD) Enjoy!
(http://img17.imagevenue.com/loc345/th_55540_AK_2_122_345lo.JPG) (http://img17.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=55540_AK_2_122_345lo.JPG)(http://img127.imagevenue.com/loc192/th_55576_AK_122_192lo.JPG) (http://img127.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=55576_AK_122_192lo.JPG)(http://img133.imagevenue.com/loc157/th_55612_art._c63t._all._122_157lo.JPG) (http://img133.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=55612_art._c63t._all._122_157lo.JPG)
(http://img41.imagevenue.com/loc38/th_55681_chasseur_heer_122_38lo.JPG) (http://img41.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=55681_chasseur_heer_122_38lo.JPG)(http://img143.imagevenue.com/loc344/th_55712_chasseur_winter_122_344lo.JPG) (http://img143.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=55712_chasseur_winter_122_344lo.JPG)(http://img22.imagevenue.com/loc164/th_55743_Chasseur_122_164lo.JPG) (http://img22.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=55743_Chasseur_122_164lo.JPG)
(http://img21.imagevenue.com/loc35/th_55772_DRK_122_35lo.JPG) (http://img21.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=55772_DRK_122_35lo.JPG)(http://img160.imagevenue.com/loc758/th_55807_g47nie_all._122_758lo.JPG) (http://img160.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=55807_g47nie_all._122_758lo.JPG)(http://img205.imagevenue.com/loc159/th_55817_heer_sgm_122_159lo.JPG) (http://img205.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=55817_heer_sgm_122_159lo.JPG)
(http://img227.imagevenue.com/loc395/th_55911_HEER_WW1_122_395lo.JPG) (http://img227.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=55911_HEER_WW1_122_395lo.JPG)(http://img131.imagevenue.com/loc500/th_55944_heer_122_500lo.JPG) (http://img131.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=55944_heer_122_500lo.JPG)(http://img205.imagevenue.com/loc348/th_55977_kriegsmarin_122_348lo.JPG) (http://img205.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=55977_kriegsmarin_122_348lo.JPG)
(http://img242.imagevenue.com/loc241/th_56004_Luft_AK_122_241lo.JPG) (http://img242.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=56004_Luft_AK_122_241lo.JPG)(http://img188.imagevenue.com/loc138/th_56040_luft_Battle_of_England_122_138lo.JPG) (http://img188.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=56040_luft_Battle_of_England_122_138lo.JPG)(http://img212.imagevenue.com/loc798/th_56072_LW1_122_798lo.JPG) (http://img212.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=56072_LW1_122_798lo.JPG)
(http://img237.imagevenue.com/loc376/th_56107_officier_heer_122_376lo.JPG) (http://img237.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=56107_officier_heer_122_376lo.JPG)(http://img195.imagevenue.com/loc1093/th_56137_PANZER_WW2_122_1093lo.JPG) (http://img195.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=56137_PANZER_WW2_122_1093lo.JPG)(http://img160.imagevenue.com/loc992/th_56172_panzer_122_992lo.JPG) (http://img160.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=56172_panzer_122_992lo.JPG)
(http://img44.imagevenue.com/loc139/th_56181_para_trop_122_139lo.JPG) (http://img44.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=56181_para_trop_122_139lo.JPG)(http://img34.imagevenue.com/loc381/th_56213_polizei_122_381lo.JPG) (http://img34.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=56213_polizei_122_381lo.JPG)(http://img147.imagevenue.com/loc212/th_56246_RAD_122_212lo.JPG) (http://img147.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=56246_RAD_122_212lo.JPG)
(http://img128.imagevenue.com/loc566/th_56279_SS_122_566lo.JPG) (http://img128.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=56279_SS_122_566lo.JPG)(http://img239.imagevenue.com/loc130/th_56330_U-BOOT_122_130lo.JPG) (http://img239.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=56330_U-BOOT_122_130lo.JPG)(http://img206.imagevenue.com/loc58/th_55647_artillerie_122_58lo.JPG) (http://img206.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=55647_artillerie_122_58lo.JPG)
    


*passes out, needs to change pants now*
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Johannes on 03-01-2010, 08:01:33
My greatcoat I got for Xmas. any information you can find about it would be appreciated--cost me $20 US. Click images for larger view.

It's a model 1939 U.S. Army overcoat, worn for winter weather and the like.

http://www.olive-drab.com/od_soldiers_clothing_ww2_overcoats.php (http://www.olive-drab.com/od_soldiers_clothing_ww2_overcoats.php)

One finds tons of pictures of them also being worn by the infantry of the Lend-Lease-equipped French Army, at a frequency seemingly greater than the U.S. Army. That probably has to do with the past importance of greatcoats in the French armed forces. In 1947, the French Army introduced their model 1947 greatcoat, which was basically an exact copy of the American greatcoat but with the post-war French buttons replacing the U.S. ones.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 03-01-2010, 17:01:19
so was it a good deal for $20 us? did they rip me off, did I practically steal it from them?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Kading on 03-01-2010, 20:01:19
so was it a good deal for $20 us? did they rip me off, did I practically steal it from them?

you should have told us that right away instead of fishing for comments.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 03-01-2010, 20:01:28
i dont  understand what i did wrong
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 03-01-2010, 20:01:53
i dont  understand what i did wrong

  Usually anytime you post you have done something wrong.....This time however I dunno.  ???
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 03-01-2010, 20:01:33
ah, kading's just sour because i stole mudra from him while he was deployed  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Hockeywarrior on 03-01-2010, 21:01:12
i dont  understand what i did wrong

  Usually anytime you post you have done something wrong.....This time however I dunno.  ???
Same here. Oh well. BAN MOOSE!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 03-01-2010, 21:01:24
i dont  understand what i did wrong

  Usually anytime you post you have done something wrong.....This time however I dunno.  ???
Same here. Oh well. BAN MOOSE!

not moose! who wil entertain us with his drunken rantings??
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: flyboy_fx on 03-01-2010, 21:01:42
i dont  understand what i did wrong

  Usually anytime you post you have done something wrong.....This time however I dunno.  ???
Same here. Oh well. BAN MOOSE!

not moose! who wil entertain us with his drunken rantings??


you will~!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 03-01-2010, 21:01:57
i dont  understand what i did wrong

  Usually anytime you post you have done something wrong.....This time however I dunno.  ???
Same here. Oh well. BAN MOOSE!

not moose! who wil entertain us with his drunken rantings??


you will~!

but i do not drink and am apparently not funny
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 03-01-2010, 21:01:58
Venous is always funny once hes drunk  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 03-01-2010, 22:01:09
ah, kading's just sour because i stole mudra from him while he was deployed  ;D

Um, no.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Hockeywarrior on 03-01-2010, 22:01:38
ah, kading's just sour because i stole mudra from him while he was deployed  ;D

Um, no.
pwned.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 03-01-2010, 22:01:06
soo, is kading going to be man enough to come here and explain such an usefull and meaningless comment? :D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 03-01-2010, 22:01:00
Kading's awesomeness level stands above 'man' so no need for him to explain. Warrior just has to be silent and listen to Sensei Kading.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Torenico on 03-01-2010, 23:01:14
ah, kading's just sour because i stole mudra from him while he was deployed  ;D

Um, no.
pwned.
pwned. x2
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 03-01-2010, 23:01:39
ah, kading's just sour because i stole mudra from him while he was deployed  ;D

Um, no.

oh, hush you!   ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Kading on 04-01-2010, 01:01:35
soo, is kading going to be man enough to come here and explain such an usefull and meaningless comment? :D

he said he got a nice coat for 20 bucks (cheap). then, after nobody commented on the low price for awhile, he posted about it himself. super lame thing to do so i called him on it, not clearly enough it seems.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 04-01-2010, 01:01:24
well, i just wanted to know if it was a good buy, but the subtle approach wielded no results. hardly a bad thing to ask it openly. how is this an issue?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: FlyGuy45 on 04-01-2010, 02:01:39
Now, show us the 20 you found.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 04-01-2010, 02:01:36
i was kidding aout the $20 from '39.  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: flyboy_fx on 04-01-2010, 02:01:43
Now, show us the 20 you found.


Flyguy

Cheap repro of flyboy thats all... .  :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: FlyGuy45 on 04-01-2010, 03:01:16
Now, show us the 20 you found.


Flyguy

Cheap repro of flyboy thats all... .  :P

I've been around FileFront and here for a while, and now you notice me?  :'(
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 04-01-2010, 03:01:42
Its ok, I've been around for awhile and I don't even get acknowledged by the "social elite" namely Torenico, Tedacious, etc.

You have had some interesting posts though
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 04-01-2010, 03:01:42
Its ok, I've been around for awhile and I don't even get acknowledged by the "social elite" namely Torenico, Tedacious, etc.

You have had some interesting posts though
I notice you, Hi. I do.

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 04-01-2010, 03:01:13
Its ok, I've been around for awhile and I don't even get acknowledged by the "social elite" namely Torenico, Tedacious, etc.

You have had some interesting posts though
I was totally here before both of them.  And FlyGuy is the real deal.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 04-01-2010, 03:01:22
Now, show us the 20 you found.


Flyguy

Cheap repro of flyboy thats all... .  :P

I've been around FileFront and here for a while, and now you notice me?  :'(

Yeah you are that fella the other guy gives a bad name.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 04-01-2010, 04:01:03
Its ok, I've been around for awhile and I don't even get acknowledged by the "social elite" namely Torenico, Tedacious, etc.

You have had some interesting posts though

Psh, I acknowledge you, I even said hi to you ingame.  Though I'd style myself as a member of the elite of the social elite on these forums<.=.<
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]I.Kluge on 04-01-2010, 04:01:28
...elite the social elite ...

I going to assume a 'reach around' was in order at a certain point.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 04-01-2010, 04:01:29
...elite the social elite ...

I going to assume a 'reach around' was in order at a certain point.

A reach around with oak leaf clusters, to be precise.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Torenico on 04-01-2010, 04:01:17
Its ok, I've been around for awhile and I don't even get acknowledged by the "social elite" namely Torenico, Tedacious, etc.

You have had some interesting posts though
I was totally here before both of them.  And FlyGuy is the real deal.

Well..

Torenico
Mini Statistics

Age
    16
Join Date
    June 23rd, 2007
Total Posts
    1,931

Captain Pyjama Shark
Mini Statistics

Join Date
    June 28th, 2007
Total Posts
    1,459

Well? :P

That According to FF..
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 04-01-2010, 04:01:38
Torenico just posts more, Pyjama doesn't seem to post as much although I did see him ingame today (did you manage to fix your LSD aiming problems?)

Mudra, talked to you a bit ingame a few days ago. Was a good game

And yes Warrior, I also saw you ingame, quiet a few interesting conversations xD (FOR GLORIOUS MOTHER RUSSIA)



Well Flippy is going to wake up and beating the living hell out of us if we dont get back on-topic so that being said, my dad has a coin that my grandpa was given after flying U-2's in russia. It looks pretty cool but its been a few years since i've seen it. If I manage to find it and my camera I'l post a few pics of it
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Torenico on 04-01-2010, 04:01:34
I have nothing from the army, but if you consider a pic, from the army, then i have something from the army :P

Well, its nothing but a pic of a Sherman Tank Crew. Its not mine, i found it in my Uncles Car, inside a Book. Shows one of the rare Sherman 75mm that went here..

I guess thats all.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 04-01-2010, 04:01:34
Sounds cool, I hope that if your family was in WW2 they weren't all fighting against each other like mine -_-"




(Russia, America, France,Germany)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Torenico on 04-01-2010, 04:01:47
Nah thats not WW2, i guess it was around the Argentine invasion of Chile.. 1973

Yeah we still had Fireflys and Sherman 75mm till the late 70's
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Hockeywarrior on 04-01-2010, 05:01:45
Its ok, I've been around for awhile and I don't even get acknowledged by the "social elite" namely Torenico, Tedacious, etc.

You have had some interesting posts though
I was totally here before both of them.  And FlyGuy is the real deal.

Well..

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Well? :P

That According to FF..
Silly amateurs all around. Clearly this demonstrates the superiority of 5 digit members over the inferior 6 and 7 digit proletariat of the old country! Oh and don't get me started on all these nouveau riche, bourgeois from Warum!

Perhaps we should make an official list of the members of the "FH Social Elite" just so we can all be clear. I'll make sure to write it with a clear indication of FF forum member #'s and join dates! And I won't take bribes from anyone, unless of course it's very very big.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 04-01-2010, 05:01:19
I can tell you where the secret kit is on Goodwood  :P

Ah but that may be worth too much, perhaps I shan't tell ye about it...
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Ts4EVER on 06-01-2010, 15:01:58
I'm not really into this whole Militaria thing, but there is one item I would buy in a heartbeat should I find it on some garage sale:

(http://www.ostfront.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/GOPI-00374_350.jpg)

Too awesome.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Rawhide on 07-01-2010, 01:01:37
Ts, what kind of glasses is that?

Designed for the harsh Russian winter?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 07-01-2010, 01:01:25
Gibergsjager goggles for fighting snow blindness, from the sunlight gleaming off the snow ;)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 07-01-2010, 01:01:48
I'm totally social elite, you all would be nothing without me.  And no Hi I haven't fixed my problem yet, I am not really in the mood.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Ts4EVER on 08-01-2010, 15:01:27
Gibergsjager goggles for fighting snow blindness, from the sunlight gleaming off the snow ;)

exactly... I have half a mind asking the dude from Rammstein where he got his:

(http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z5/ethanrom_2007/PDVD_009-2-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 08-01-2010, 19:01:15
Bahahahhahahaha


You really want one btw?

http://www.ostfront.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=GOPI-00374&Category_Code=

^.=.^
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Yustax on 09-01-2010, 05:01:38
Will post pics of my Hitlerjubend knife tomorrow in the afternoon, when there's more light.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: nephros on 05-02-2010, 20:02:11
These are my 2 newest rifles - and the best deal I think I've ever gotten. A relative knew someone who was selling a group of rifles that included 2 military rifles, so he called me to see if I was interested. They were described as a 'gewehr 98 with a "sniper bolt" and a sporterized stock, worth $3000' and a 'Japanese type 99 in 6.5 caliber with a dust cover worth $500'.  I said I had no interest in either at those prices, particularly without seeing them, and with suspect descriptions. I referred them to a local gun shop, but it turns out they had already offered them next to nothing. My relative went ahead and bought the japanese rifle for $100 to give me as a gift. The woman really wanted to get rid of the rifles, so I recanted and bought the gew 98 for $100 as well, to be nice.

The gew 98, which I was expecting to be a mixmaster with probably a k98 bolt was actually in great shape! It is a gew.98M from the Amberg arsenal, dated 1905. It was rebarreled in 1936 at the Spreewerke factory, and has an armory replacement bolt from that time. The bore is mirror smooth, and not a speck of rust anywhere. All the parts match. The stock, sadly was chopped, but I bought one off ebay for $220 that is correct for the post-ww1 modifications, and has a 'EBW' cartouche of the interwar period bavarian freikorps - so all total a VERY nice gew. 98M for $320!

gew 98 as arrived:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/apelph/gew%2098M/rtprofile.jpg)

gew. 98M with replacement stock:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/apelph/gew%2098M/restoredrifle.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/apelph/gew%2098M/restoredrifleprox.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/apelph/gew%2098M/resoredriflemid.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/apelph/gew%2098M/restoredrifleend.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/apelph/gew%2098M/amberg1905.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/apelph/gew%2098M/gew98.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/apelph/gew%2098M/Lreceiver.jpg)

The second is a nice type 38 with non-matching bolt and scrubbed mum, but not bad for $100:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/apelph/Arisaka%20T38/rightprofile.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/apelph/Arisaka%20T38/stockleft.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/apelph/Arisaka%20T38/serialnumber.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/apelph/Arisaka%20T38/barrelend.jpg)

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 05-02-2010, 21:02:52
Wow, great job restoring that sporter!  I hate when people sportorize antique rifles, you did a wonderful job.  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 10-02-2010, 19:02:59
Verry well done, nothing makes me more sad then see a beautiful rifle getting gang raped time after time...
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: nephros on 10-02-2010, 22:02:43
Thank you! The prior owner may have chopped the stock, but I gotta hand it to him - he did keep it clean and well oiled.  The Arisaka cleaned up pretty nice too. The bore looked pretty cruddy,  but turned out to just be a lot of cosmolene.


Now I'm working on getting rust off of a 1937 Spanish Civil War Mosin 91/30 that was neglected by it's former owner. I'll get some 'after' pics.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Johannes on 13-02-2010, 23:02:12
My MAS 36 (and me in Free French 1940-1943 garb), just picked up less than two days ago. Rare J-serial number (receiver, trigger guard, buttstock and front stock, with the last two digits of the serial on the tip of the bayonet; bottom of magazine's serial is long gone, but the bolt also has a pre-war serial), May 1940-dated, with no German "LK5" stamp (no collaborator rifle for me!). Only minor flaw is a hairline on the top of the rear handguard. Got for $245 + shipping and transfer fees. Not at all bad considering it's hard to find even post-war ones for under $300 these days.

My collection has expanded considerably since my last posts, so I'll get more formal images eventually. If the FH team needs photographic references of French Army equipment one of these days, I'll be around! Still have to fix my computer so I can actually play FH2 and every other game again... my money has clearly been going elsewhere!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 14-02-2010, 00:02:03
Beautiful!   I was thinking of picking up a Lebel I saw in an auction online.  It's only thirty dollars, but of course it's barrel and stock had been chopped off, and now reattached.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: nephros on 15-02-2010, 13:02:33
That's awesome! Where'd you get it?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Johannes on 15-02-2010, 23:02:39
I got it off of Gunbroker soon after the New Year, when I assume everyone was tired of shopping. A few weeks before the same seller had sold another prewar example that was neither matching nor as good for a hundred dollars more.

A Lebel rifle is very useful since it not only is more sought-after, but enables you to reenact both the Great War and the Second World War. If you plan on having one for more than a wall mount, I would recommend making sure you acquire one capable of firing bullet type "N"; you'll know by seeing the letter "N" stamped on the receiver. Basically, in the early thirties the French modified most of the 8 mm rifles, widening the barrel a little to render them capable of firing the new "N" type round that was designed for machine guns. Most of the surplus 8 mm ammo (which you probably shouldn't want to fire anyway!) is the type "N", and accidentally trying to fire one in a non-modified 8 mm French rifle (without the "N" designation) will probably result in an unpleasant explosion.

For me, this MAS 36 is my first firearm, as I've never even fired a gun before. It's all I need for now, although in the distant future I probably wouldn't mind acquiring others:

1. German K98k, perhaps exported to China (not a clone though), so that I might one day embrace my other half and reenact the Chinese (after I complete my French collection, I am considering this being my second impression, although I really should learn Chinese first).

2. Soviet Mosin-Nagant M30 or M38 carbine, so I can remove the "café" from "café Bolshevik" whenever I describe my political views and in the strange possibility that one day there will be a reenactment where I can show up as a soldier of the Foch batallion in Slovakia, 1944-45. There are few things quite as awesome as seeing former POWs wearing a Slovak Army uniform under the rags of the 1940 French Army greatcoat.

3. Lee-Enfield No. 4, for the Free French. Also, I would love to put on a 1940 uniform, an F.F.I. insignia, and carry a No. 4, as the clash is a sore for the eye but accurate for the French Forces of the West sent to fight until the end of the war in the Atlantic Pockets.

4. 1892 3-shot mousqueton for WW1, since minus the uniform I will soon have all the necessary equipment to reenact the Great War French Army as well, and various WW2: artillery, fortress, reserve and much of the colonial infantry. For a Vichy French soldier in the Tunisian campaign, it would be more realistic to use one of these than my MAS 36.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: nephros on 16-02-2010, 16:02:06
Wow, I'm jealous. I've been keeping my eye out for a Mas 36, and you got a good deal.  As soon as I get my C&R renewed, I'm going to order one of the Romanian contract VZ 24 rifles that are being sold right now.

There was a guy on Auction Arms a while back who was selling a ton of chinese mausers of all varieties, including some K98.  They were all in really rough condition though. I've been wanting a Chang Kai-Shek mauser for my collection, but I'm waiting on the right one. I grew up in Hong Kong and played around in old Japanese bunkers as a kid. I wish I'd gotten a metal detector and done a little digging now in retrospect.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 16-02-2010, 16:02:42
Guys question

One of my friends recently sold a M95 cavalry rifle.
He recently found a full icecreambox of Stripper clips, of wich the grand majority

Has a Nazi Swastika and eagle!

Anyone knows if they are worth much?:p
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 16-02-2010, 16:02:19
Clips? Not worth much, if you got alot of them you can sell them by pairs, but those are really cheap.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 16-02-2010, 17:02:09
Maybe a museum might want them...........
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 16-02-2010, 17:02:34
Wel, i recently saw a nice mas36 for sale and wanted to buy it, but did not do it becouse i have no idea how to recognise a real WW2 made one, can anybody give me some advice to what to look for when i see one in the future? And how hard is it to find amunition for it, i already have problems finding bullets for my mauser an lee enfield. Seems like most gunshops here only sell .22 rim...
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: nephros on 16-02-2010, 18:02:07
I get most of my information from the gunboards forums. Here is a sticky on French rifles:

http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?8612-French-Firearms-Information

For ammo, here's a good place to start:

http://www.aimsurplus.com/
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 16-02-2010, 18:02:02
Guys question

One of my friends recently sold a M95 cavalry rifle.
He recently found a full icecreambox of Stripper clips, of wich the grand majority

Has a Nazi Swastika and eagle!

Anyone knows if they are worth much?:p

They're not worth much.  The germans restamped a LOT of M-95 ammo and clips with waffenamps when they took over austria and were taking stock of everything they got in the anschluss, as well as producing the ammo for the Hungarians.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 16-02-2010, 18:02:42
I get most of my information from the gunboards forums. Here is a sticky on French rifles:

http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?8612-French-Firearms-Information

For ammo, here's a good place to start:

http://www.aimsurplus.com/

That is for the US, I cant just order weapons and amunition from foreign countrys, i need someone to import it, and that makes it so much more expensive its not worth the effort.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Oddball on 16-02-2010, 22:02:10
I get most of my information from the gunboards forums. Here is a sticky on French rifles:

http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?8612-French-Firearms-Information

For ammo, here's a good place to start:

http://www.aimsurplus.com/

Most the ammo is all sold out, especially for the .303 and .45 auto... do hey restock?! Just curious.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: nephros on 18-02-2010, 20:02:00
Okay, here's the big question: Which Czechoslovakian Vz 24 rifle to buy? As background - these are Mausers produced in Czechoslovakia from 1924-1942 - of interest because they would have been used both against the Germans in the 1939 invasion, or in the hands the Germans and their allies after the invasion. Some would have been captured by the Soviets in battles such as Stalingrad in the hands of Romanians.  The Czech lion crest on the receiver was often removed by nations that captured these rifles, or to whom these rifles were sold.

1) $160 - The lion crest intact, but in average shape with bluing mostly gone from the metal and beat up stock, rifling pretty worn, some bolts apparently not in great shape either.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/apelph/temp/VZ245.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/apelph/temp/2.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/apelph/temp/1.jpg)


2) $210 - lion crest removed, but re-arsenalled in Romania with metal and wood, bluing in very good shape, barreld with good rifling. Possibly with sling, but this is luck of the draw, I think.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/apelph/temp/vz24f.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/apelph/temp/vz24c.jpg)

3) $250 - lion crest intact, but re-arsenaaled, and metal and wood also in very good shape.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/apelph/temp/vz243.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/apelph/temp/vz244.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 18-02-2010, 21:02:52
it looks hungarian instead of czech to me. last photo
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 18-02-2010, 21:02:45
This is just me, but I'd get the 160 one and fix it up.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: nephros on 18-02-2010, 23:02:39
My knowledge of the symbols/culture of Hungary and Czechoslovakia in 1924-42 is pretty poor, but this is the crest typical of the vz24 rifle.

On the one hand, the $160 rifle is both cheaper, and less modified from the state it would have been in in ww2, but on the other hand, the $210 and $260 rifles are in MUCH nicer condition by all appearances, and I for one am not put off by arsenal refurbishment the way some milsurp collectors are (i.e. the whole "russian capture" K98 value debate). I'd like to have a really nice one with a crest... but is it worth an extra $100???

added: Just saw your response von mudra, appreciate the response. 2 years ago it would have been a no-brainer to me, I'd have said the same thing. I keep going back and forth now because I've seen a few people who have ordered the cheaper ones reporting some rust and some rifling getting pretty shallow. It's always a bit of a crapshoot when you order online, but ironically I find that to be part of the fun - I think I'm a gambler at heart.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Thorondor123 on 18-02-2010, 23:02:38
That cross is typical in both Hungarian and Czechoslovakian heraldry and imagery, but the lion definitely Czech.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Johannes on 19-02-2010, 07:02:00
Wel, i recently saw a nice mas36 for sale and wanted to buy it, but did not do it becouse i have no idea how to recognise a real WW2 made one, can anybody give me some advice to what to look for when i see one in the future? And how hard is it to find amunition for it, i already have problems finding bullets for my mauser an lee enfield. Seems like most gunshops here only sell .22 rim...

French 7.5 mm ammo is hard to find and expensive. If you're looking for something to shoot often, the MAS 36 is probably not the best choice.

Concerning pre-war and war-time types, there are a few physical indications. Besides serial numbers, note the following obvious indications:

-Front sights (ear sights for pre-war, hooded for post-war); note that there are also different variations of the front band depending on time period.
-Rear sights (pre-war and war-time required you to push down on the rear sight to move the slider; post-war has you push a button on the side of the slider)
-Lower band (Post-war types used rings to attach the sling to, pre-war types had rectangular slits; I'm not sure and it is probably unlikely, but it might be possible the ring type might have appeared in later production prewar examples, as the prototypes of the MAS 40 semi-auto rifle already used them)
-Finish (Most of the prewar examples were painted black for their metal finish, while most of the post-war refurbs were parkerized)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 19-02-2010, 08:02:58
added: Just saw your response von mudra, appreciate the response. 2 years ago it would have been a no-brainer to me, I'd have said the same thing. I keep going back and forth now because I've seen a few people who have ordered the cheaper ones reporting some rust and some rifling getting pretty shallow. It's always a bit of a crapshoot when you order online, but ironically I find that to be part of the fun - I think I'm a gambler at heart.

Aye, its a tough bet on net.  My first rifle I purchased, my Gew98, turned out to have head spacing problems which mean I can't fire it live, and it would cost about 500 bucks to get it fixed....  Since then I've been much more careful.  My k98k is a russian rearsenal, and I worked hard on redoing the stock, completly stripping the crappy russian varnish and redoing it, now it looks beautiful.

Really, its up to you, but I just enjoyed fixing up my k98k so much that imo, its worth while.  The SMLE I just bought turns out to still have the holes for attaching a magazine cutoff, so that's my next project, finding one and figuring out how to install it :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 19-02-2010, 12:02:33
Wel, i recently saw a nice mas36 for sale and wanted to buy it, but did not do it becouse i have no idea how to recognise a real WW2 made one, can anybody give me some advice to what to look for when i see one in the future? And how hard is it to find amunition for it, i already have problems finding bullets for my mauser an lee enfield. Seems like most gunshops here only sell .22 rim...

French 7.5 mm ammo is hard to find and expensive. If you're looking for something to shoot often, the MAS 36 is probably not the best choice.

Concerning pre-war and war-time types, there are a few physical indications. Besides serial numbers, note the following obvious indications:

-Front sights (ear sights for pre-war, hooded for post-war); note that there are also different variations of the front band depending on time period.
-Rear sights (pre-war and war-time required you to push down on the rear sight to move the slider; post-war has you push a button on the side of the slider)
-Lower band (Post-war types used rings to attach the sling to, pre-war types had rectangular slits; I'm not sure and it is probably unlikely, but it might be possible the ring type might have appeared in later production prewar examples, as the prototypes of the MAS 40 semi-auto rifle already used them)
-Finish (Most of the prewar examples were painted black for their metal finish, while most of the post-war refurbs were parkerized)

Its not for shooting regularly, maybe once or twice a year for like 20 bullets, so the ammo can be expensive.

And thanks for the info.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 19-02-2010, 19:02:59
I think I might actually have some 7.5mm french ammo that was sold to me as swiss 7.5....any one know what the length of the 7.5 french is supposed to be?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 19-02-2010, 21:02:06
I think I might actually have some 7.5mm french ammo that was sold to me as swiss 7.5....any one know what the length of the 7.5 french is supposed to be?
Normally, i believe the 7.5 French is 7.5X54MM.
This bullet is also called MAS right?

Because the Swiss round officialy is 7.5x55mm Swiss

edit=found a diagram of the 7.5mm swiss

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/59/7.5_x_55_Swiss.jpg
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 19-02-2010, 21:02:14
Yeah, swiss is 7.5X55mm

I'll have to pull out the ammo and do a measurement...if it is 7.5X54, I'll sell it to yah johannes xD
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 22-02-2010, 20:02:52
So, was doing some cleaning up last weekend at my grandparents, Guess what i found :)

I will give you a hint, its shiny, verry usefull and from the late 30's...
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 22-02-2010, 20:02:33
another luftwaffe spoon?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 22-02-2010, 20:02:22
nop, but you got the material sort of right.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Steel_Lion_FIN on 22-02-2010, 21:02:59
Sauer 38H?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 22-02-2010, 21:02:23
hitler youth knife?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Eat Uranium on 22-02-2010, 21:02:18
An ingot of nazi silver?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 22-02-2010, 21:02:40
An ingot of nazi silver?

Half there :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Eat Uranium on 22-02-2010, 21:02:21
Nazi uranium ingot?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 22-02-2010, 21:02:12
Dont think they ever had that.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Eat Uranium on 22-02-2010, 21:02:34
Nazi gold?

And I think they did have a small stockpile of the stuff.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 22-02-2010, 21:02:39
nono, nazi silver was correct, it just wasnt an ingot.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Steel_Lion_FIN on 22-02-2010, 22:02:22
nazi silver candlestick?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Tiemann on 22-02-2010, 22:02:18
Nazi silver bullet?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Steel_Lion_FIN on 22-02-2010, 22:02:40
I found a loom in my attic and it had a nazi swastika on it with the eagle or whatever that predator bird is. Because "pics or it didn't happen" i'll come up with some later.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 22-02-2010, 22:02:25
pfft, you guys are looking for it to far. Its like an everyday object, made of nazi silver, and it aint a spoon, what else could it be?

I found it in a silver box, full with other, older and newer, friends, and there was only 1 nazi one in the box. Should be easy now :)

And pics will come next wednesday, definatly thursday, dont have a camera now.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 22-02-2010, 22:02:48
iron cross
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 22-02-2010, 22:02:52
Forks and knifes...
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: nephros on 22-02-2010, 22:02:09
pour le merite
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 22-02-2010, 22:02:22
nop, soldiers used it, just like civilians.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Oddball on 22-02-2010, 22:02:38
Belt buckle? Pocket knife?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 22-02-2010, 22:02:34
My God, is it that hard? I am going to bed now, i give you guys 24 hours before i tell.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Oddball on 22-02-2010, 22:02:28
Lighter?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Ionizer on 22-02-2010, 23:02:52
Pocket watch?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 22-02-2010, 23:02:02
nuclear missile
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 23-02-2010, 02:02:13
condom? made of silver?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 23-02-2010, 02:02:08
xD 'the silver bullet'
german soldiers are fast at everything they do! xD

i could go on...+imaginary rep hi
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: General Tso on 23-02-2010, 19:02:05
coins?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 23-02-2010, 19:02:25
kaching!

Finaly someone guesses it. Amongst the coins i found there was a silver German 2 reichsmark coin from 1939 and a silver Belgian 20 Frank coin from 1934.


Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: General Tso on 24-02-2010, 02:02:37
Do I win the coin for guessing correctly?  I'll pay for shipping.   ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 24-02-2010, 09:02:10
I googled it, its not worth much, here they sell for not even €5 a coin so it might be cheaper to buy one at a fair then for me to ship one!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 25-02-2010, 01:02:28
today, I found a Fairburn-Sykes knife for $60, and a USAAF survival knife for $40 in a shop today. would I be ripped off If I were to buy either?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Kading on 25-02-2010, 03:02:54
first off, its probably not a real F&S ::). That being said, I'm sure you know that. So why would you need one? It's a knife designed purely for killing, pretty much useless for other knife stuff.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Desertfox on 25-02-2010, 03:02:13
So why would you need one? It's a knife designed purely for killing, pretty much useless for other knife stuff.
Stabbing rabbits and such mebbe?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 25-02-2010, 04:02:13
I can imagine some kid in a field in michigan yelling and chasing rabbits with a knife xD
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 25-02-2010, 14:02:07
Ok, here are the pics as promissed.
(http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/7670/p1020044j.jpg)
(http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/9482/p1020045r.jpg)

Also, dont know if you guys do it but i try to take a bullet home of every caliber that i have shot. So here is the lineup. The .303 and .45 are missing, also the 12 gauge. sorry for that. Cookies for those who can guess them all!
(http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/6856/p1020043q.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Eat Uranium on 25-02-2010, 17:02:47
.22 BB - .22 Short - .22lr - ? - 9x19mm - 7.62x38mmR - .44 Magnum - 5.56x45mm - 7.62x39mm - 7.62x51mm - .30-06
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 25-02-2010, 18:02:19
.22 BB - .22 Short - .22lr - ? - 9x19mm - 7.62x38mmR - .44 Magnum - 5.56x45mm (its .223, but that is like 99,9% correct) - 7.62x39mm - 7.62x51mm - .30-06

Try again :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Jürgen on 25-02-2010, 19:02:49
First one is a 4mm Flobert and the "???" is a 9mm flobert.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 25-02-2010, 19:02:09
Correct, 4 more to go.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Steel_Lion_FIN on 25-02-2010, 19:02:35
replace 44 magnum with 40 S&W
replace 7.62x51mm wit 300 Win. Mag and .30-06 with 338 Lapua Mag.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 25-02-2010, 21:02:08
replace 44 magnum with 40 S&W
replace 7.62x51mm wit 300 Win. Mag and .30-06 with 338 Lapua Mag.

Nop, non are correct :s
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 25-02-2010, 23:02:59
first off, its probably not a real F&S ::). That being said, I'm sure you know that.

nah, this one isn't real, i'm pretty sure, but I'm really wondering about the pilot's knife--i know that's seen action, as well as a 78th british division doughboy helmet for $50 and a used WWII Russian's helmet, and he signed his name in it for $20.  There is also a modified Nazi officer's cap modified for East German officers. (at least that's what the clerk told me, I doubt it, i think they would've took off the swastika when they modified it.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: nephros on 26-02-2010, 19:02:17
These aren't mine - they belong to an inlaw of mine, who's grandfather was a US GI involved in stabilizing and running local governments in occupied Germany at the end of WW2. This is a small sampling of what he has in his basement (helmet modeled by my nephew)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/apelph/jacket.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/apelph/knife.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/apelph/helmet-1.jpg)


and I just placed an order on a mosin nagant 91/30 PU sniper, which should be here next week.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 26-02-2010, 19:02:39
A bolt action rifle collection

thats what i want
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 26-02-2010, 20:02:24
Very nice RAD dagger, never seen one before!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 26-02-2010, 20:02:29
A bolt action rifle collection

thats what i want

Thats what i am doing :D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: nephros on 26-02-2010, 22:02:39
Very nice RAD dagger, never seen one before!

I had to some searching to figure out what that was. There was a lot more stuff, but the son of the GI who brought this stuff home was uncomfortable with me taking pictures so I quit. He isn't really interested in militaria and was under the impression that owning nazi stuff might not be legal (clearly has never been to a gun show, or even on ebay!).  All of the stuff was nicely documented as to what city it came from etc., and he also had letters he sent home to his wife. For me this is kind of the holy grail - actually having a story to go with the stuff.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 26-02-2010, 23:02:54
A bolt action rifle collection

thats what i want

Thats what i am doing :D
My little list

FN Mauser 1930
FN SAFN(its semi, but its sexy)
Lee enfield SMLE and No4
Mauser G98 and Kar98K


Basicly any bolt action service rifle that was in service from 1910-1950
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: nephros on 27-02-2010, 02:02:57
What are FN Mausers and SAFN?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: nephros on 28-02-2010, 13:02:21

Basicly any bolt action service rifle that was in service from 1910-1950

That is an ambitious goal! That's the danger of this hobby. One day you innocently see an add for a mosin-nagant for $70 and think "Hey, I'll collect all the rifles of WW2".  Then you start reading about mosins and realize just a 91/30 won't do it - you also need a 1891, M38, and M44. Then your collection won't be complete without a Finn Mosin. In every variation. And both a hex and round receiver. And a dragoon. Before you know it you NEED 20 rifles from Russia alone. Then you realize how many countries fought in WW2. Then you see how awesome rifles of WW1 are...

My list:

Mosin-nagant 91/30 1932 matching
mosin-nagant 91/30 1936 Spanish civil war
mosin-nagant 1891  1897 Imperial arsenal of Tula
Mosin-nagant M44
Type 99 Arisaka - nagoya series 9 mummed
Type 38 Arisaka - koishikawa mummed
Type 38 Arisaka - koishikawa c dust cover
M1 Garand - 1943 Springfield
M1 Garand - 1955 Springfield
M1 Carbine - 1943 Inland
1903 Springfield - 1942 Springfield
K98 - 1937 S/147 russian capture
Gew 98M - 1905 Amberg
Enfield no.4 - 1942 BSA

soon to be adding mosin-nagant 91/30 PU sniper
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 28-02-2010, 19:02:52
Mmmm, yes, the collection simply never ends.  ;D

@nephros, donno if you've seen my walk around pics in the thread of that name, but I've got a Gew98, M24 Venezualian Carbine, K98k, M91/30, K31, and just got a SMLE that I still gotta take pics of.  Also for pistols, I have a .22 S&W revolver from just barely post-ww2, and a M1913 Sauer und Suhl.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: nephros on 01-03-2010, 03:03:18
I'll check that out! I never get tired of looking at other peoples collections, and wishing they were mine.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 01-03-2010, 03:03:54
first off, its probably not a real F&S ::). That being said, I'm sure you know that.

nah, this one isn't real, i'm pretty sure, but I'm really wondering about the pilot's knife--i know that's seen action, as well as a 78th british division doughboy helmet for $50 and a used WWII Russian's helmet, and he signed his name in it for $20.  There is also a modified Nazi officer's cap modified for East German officers. (at least that's what the clerk told me, I doubt it, i think they would've took off the swastika when they modified it.

nobody going to answer this...? no?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Kading on 01-03-2010, 04:03:36
You should save your money for more important things, warrior. You are coming up on 16 years old now, you should be getting ready to cruise around town in your parents car trolling for booty, not collecting antiques.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 01-03-2010, 04:03:40
You should save your money for more important things, warrior. You are coming up on 16 years old now, you should be getting ready to cruise around town in your parents car trolling for booty, not collecting antiques.

Bingo
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Mspfc Doc DuFresne on 01-03-2010, 05:03:16
We want him reproducing?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Hockeywarrior on 01-03-2010, 05:03:20
Hmm I've got a stack of paper Deutschmarks printed during and just before WWII, stamped with the swastika and everything. I'll take pics when I head home.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 01-03-2010, 05:03:23
We want him reproducing?


We'll get him a vasectomy
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Kading on 01-03-2010, 06:03:15
We want him reproducing?


We'll get him a vasectomy

Psh, vasectomies are for heroes! That is why God invented condoms, also as a practical joke played on the Pope.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: General Tso on 01-03-2010, 18:03:01
We want him reproducing?


We'll get him a vasectomy
I'll start a Paypal account for that very reason.   ;D ;)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 01-03-2010, 18:03:35
One of my airsoft buddies does german renactment.

He has a nice Mauser Kar98K, bajonet, basicly everything you need to look like a german

And one of his buddies has a SDKF 251 Hanomag. 25.000€ he is currently selling it


I dunno, but issent that inexpensive?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: General Tso on 01-03-2010, 19:03:57
And one of his buddies has a SDKF 251 Hanomag. 25.000€ he is currently selling it


I dunno, but issent that inexpensive?

Yeah, but he can name his price for something that unique, especially if it's in good condition.  Any pictures or a link to a listing?

<gets out checkbook>
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 01-03-2010, 19:03:49
Also it might be a converted czech OT
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 01-03-2010, 19:03:28
Yeah.. There aren't many 251's left, 25,000 is a crazy price or it is a wreck or a fake.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 01-03-2010, 19:03:17
Here is a picture of them driving it

(http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/2725/25409102488446451659100.jpg)

Not large, it is taken from facebook
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 01-03-2010, 20:03:20
That's a very, very, very bad repro job....  Looks like they just took a czech OT, removed the roof, and repainted it....
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Oddball on 01-03-2010, 20:03:15
Yeah.. There aren't many 251's left, 25,000 is a crazy price or it is a wreck or a fake.

There was a Mock-up for sale a little while ago on Ebay, the bids were reaching $40,000 if not more... I was like.... :o It wasn't even complete.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 01-03-2010, 21:03:42
You should save your money for more important things, warrior. You are coming up on 16 years old now, you should be getting ready to cruise around town in your parents car trolling for booty, not collecting antiques.

ha! fuck that, I want WWII memorabilia, screw the old minivan!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 01-03-2010, 21:03:05
TBH, thinking about it, I wouldn't even pay 25,000 euro for that....  maybe 10,000.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 01-03-2010, 21:03:47
That's a very, very, very bad repro job....  Looks like they just took a czech OT, removed the roof, and repainted it....
oh well, at least they tried  ;)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: nephros on 05-03-2010, 03:03:54
Just received this today, and am VERY pleased!  A mosin-nagant 91/30 PU sniper - Izhevsk arsenal 1943. All matching, laminate stock. Scope matches receiver. Rifling is very sharp, overall in great condition.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/apelph/mosin%20PU%20sniper/profilesmall.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/apelph/mosin%20PU%20sniper/scopeprofile1small.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/apelph/mosin%20PU%20sniper/scopemarksmall.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/apelph/mosin%20PU%20sniper/receiverscopeSNsmall.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/apelph/mosin%20PU%20sniper/receiversmall.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/apelph/mosin%20PU%20sniper/boltsmall.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/apelph/mosin%20PU%20sniper/magazinesmall.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/apelph/mosin%20PU%20sniper/buttplatesmall.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 05-03-2010, 03:03:55
Yummy!  How much did it run yah?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: nephros on 05-03-2010, 04:03:43
$800, and worth every penny IMHO. I know someone who bought a 91/30 "sniper" back in 2006, and it turns out to be a reproduction - the giveaway being that it is on a 1932 hex receiver 91/30, but all PU snipers are on 1942 or later receivers  :o

I can't wait to take this out to the range!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 05-03-2010, 04:03:09
Nice!  Yeah, I'm sure it'll be a beauty to shoot!  And I gotta start kicking myself on getting SMLE pics xD
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 05-03-2010, 05:03:45
Holy shit that is in great condition  :o

Congratulations on getting the envy of the forum!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Johannes on 05-03-2010, 06:03:29
That is an ambitious goal! That's the danger of this hobby. One day you innocently see an add for a mosin-nagant for $70 and think "Hey, I'll collect all the rifles of WW2".  Then you start reading about mosins and realize just a 91/30 won't do it - you also need a 1891, M38, and M44. Then your collection won't be complete without a Finn Mosin. In every variation. And both a hex and round receiver. And a dragoon. Before you know it you NEED 20 rifles from Russia alone. Then you realize how many countries fought in WW2. Then you see how awesome rifles of WW1 are...

Indeed! I would love to collect a handful of the rifles from the various nations, but bringing them with me to France would be a real pain, so I'll content myself to just the MAS 36 for now. In any case, I'm no shooter; I envision these more as collector items, or else emergency issue for the zombie apocalypse.  :P

And in France, one would be limited to 7 military ammo-firing rifles (post-Chassepot) if I remember correctly, so I must choose very carefully which I would like to own. When my situation is more stable, I am considering the following besides the MAS 36:

-Lee-Enfield No. 4 (I really should consider the SMLE instead as it's more proper for the Free French and early war British, but something about the No. 4 calls me to it)
-Mosin-Nagant (can't decide if I'd prefer an M91/30 or an M38, but I've got some years to worry about it)
-M1 Garand
-1892 French carbine (3-shot mousqueton, for a French WW1 impression or WW2 colonial)
-Czech vz. 24 (for the Chinese Army and the French unit in the Slovak National Uprising; could also be used for the Germans and the Japanese, so a versatile weapon that serves reenacting/mannequin purposes for many nations)
-Maybe a Carcano for my last option (again, can't decide if I want an M91 or 7.35 mm M38)

You should save your money for more important things, warrior. You are coming up on 16 years old now, you should be getting ready to cruise around town in your parents car trolling for booty, not collecting antiques.

Humbug. To quote Goofy, "Why when I was your age, I'd never even been invited to a party. And look at me now!"

$800, and worth every penny IMHO. I know someone who bought a 91/30 "sniper" back in 2006, and it turns out to be a reproduction - the giveaway being that it is on a 1932 hex receiver 91/30, but all PU snipers are on 1942 or later receivers  :o

I can't wait to take this out to the range!

What and when were the various Mosin-Nagant scopes in service?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 05-03-2010, 14:03:54
You should save your money for more important things, warrior. You are coming up on 16 years old now, you should be getting ready to cruise around town in your parents car trolling for booty, not collecting antiques.
true.
Fortunatly few people are aware of my being a reenactor, so therefore I retain my image as the life of the party.

Also on an unrelated note my new track coach is an ex-US marine and I FUCKING HATE clap push ups
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: nephros on 05-03-2010, 16:03:40

What and when were the various Mosin-Nagant scopes in service?


I won't claim to be an expert on mosin snipers, but I think they started using optics in the 1930s. The Russians were big on sniping and the Mosin 91/30 PU sniper was produced in greater numbers than any other sniper rifle. The website below says the PU went into production in 1942, but Terrence Lapin's book says 1940. There were other optics used prior to the PU, which you can read about in detail in the links below.

A good overview of Russian sniper history is here:
http://www.russian-mosin-nagant.com/sniper_section.html

A good review of the different optics used is here:
http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?27477-Guide-to-Russian-Optics-Manufacturers

And the best website for the mosin-nagant ever is here (warning - this site is addictive and will lead to mosinitis, charactarized by insatiable craving and drooling.  It may be incurable unless you are married and your wife controls the money ;)):
http://7.62x54r.net/
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 05-03-2010, 17:03:53
Thats a beautiful Mosin you got there Nephros, looks brand new, amazing condition  :P

If I would ever get a rifle, which wont be in the near future, it would be something special. Something not many people have from a nation that fought in WW2 and has been given little or no attention.

Maybe a Carcano, Lebel, Mas or a Vz22.. I don't want to go the main stream way and buy a Kar98k, M1 Garand and a No.4.  :P

You should save your money for more important things, warrior. You are coming up on 16 years old now, you should be getting ready to cruise around town in your parents car trolling for booty, not collecting antiques.
true.
Fortunatly few people are aware of my being a reenactor, so therefore I retain my image as the life of the party.

Also on an unrelated note my new track coach is an ex-US marine and I FUCKING HATE clap push ups
When I tried to do those I ended on my face. So I gave up on push ups. Shitty push ups.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 05-03-2010, 17:03:31
You know, push ups are alright I guess, I'm a long distance man so upper body strength isn't mon forte, yet I'm not weak either.  But clap push ups suck.  Also I get sweaty palms sometimes and that doesn't help.


Do any of you know how expensive a Sten really should be?  I've seen ones for thousands and ones for hundreds, I can't tell, but you'd think they would be cheap because if I knew something about making stuff it looks like you could put one together from stuff you fine in you cupboard.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: General Tso on 05-03-2010, 17:03:23
http://www.gunsamerica.com/977189716/Guns/Rifles/Class-3-Rifles/Class-3-Subguns/DLO_Sten_MK_II_9mm_SMG.htm
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 05-03-2010, 18:03:38
Holy fuck, is that a deterrent to keep every Joe six pack from owning a submachine gun, it can't actually be worth that much, can it?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 05-03-2010, 20:03:58
Nope, that's just how much they cost.  That's actually rather cheap too.  A full auto MG42 runs in the 20-30,000 range.  Thus why you don't need to see criminals buying legal full auto weapons, they cost as much as new cars.  ::)  Plus to get that, you'd need year long FBI background check, approval of sheriff's office, fingerprints taken by sheriff's office, and such for the class 3 license, followed by shipping to an approved FFL dealer who does all the paperwork and registration, plus a 200 dollar stamp tax on the gun itself.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 05-03-2010, 20:03:25
A stamp tax?  Didn't you blokes rebel because of one of those?  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 05-03-2010, 20:03:22
That is an ambitious goal! That's the danger of this hobby. One day you innocently see an add for a mosin-nagant for $70 and think "Hey, I'll collect all the rifles of WW2".  Then you start reading about mosins and realize just a 91/30 won't do it - you also need a 1891, M38, and M44. Then your collection won't be complete without a Finn Mosin. In every variation. And both a hex and round receiver. And a dragoon. Before you know it you NEED 20 rifles from Russia alone. Then you realize how many countries fought in WW2. Then you see how awesome rifles of WW1 are...

Indeed! I would love to collect a handful of the rifles from the various nations, but bringing them with me to France would be a real pain, so I'll content myself to just the MAS 36 for now. In any case, I'm no shooter; I envision these more as collector items, or else emergency issue for the zombie apocalypse.  :P

And in France, one would be limited to 7 military ammo-firing rifles (post-Chassepot) if I remember correctly, so I must choose very carefully which I would like to own. When my situation is more stable, I am considering the following besides the MAS 36:

-Lee-Enfield No. 4 (I really should consider the SMLE instead as it's more proper for the Free French and early war British, but something about the No. 4 calls me to it)
-Mosin-Nagant (can't decide if I'd prefer an M91/30 or an M38, but I've got some years to worry about it)
-M1 Garand
-1892 French carbine (3-shot mousqueton, for a French WW1 impression or WW2 colonial)
-Czech vz. 24 (for the Chinese Army and the French unit in the Slovak National Uprising; could also be used for the Germans and the Japanese, so a versatile weapon that serves reenacting/mannequin purposes for many nations)
-Maybe a Carcano for my last option (again, can't decide if I want an M91 or 7.35 mm M38)

Got a list aswel. I hope to start this collection at the age of 30.

-Lee enfield SMLE and no4
-Mosin nagant (No prefernce on wich model)
-Mauser K98
-FN Model 1930 (Belgian mauser)
-Springfield
-Carcano (I know someone who is selling a decent state M1938 for 150 euro
-Mas36

and many others aswel. I hope i can start a collection one day.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 05-03-2010, 20:03:23
A stamp tax?  Didn't you blokes rebel because of one of those?  ;D

Yes, yes we did.  :-\
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 05-03-2010, 20:03:18
Just received this today, and am VERY pleased!  A mosin-nagant 91/30 PU sniper - Izhevsk arsenal 1943. All matching, laminate stock. Scope matches receiver. Rifling is very sharp, overall in great condition.

*Tries hard not to masturbate to the awesome photos*
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 10-03-2010, 00:03:43
Ah, finally got pics of my SMLE:

http://img692.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=img0056te.jpg

 ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 10-03-2010, 00:03:02
Jealous, I am.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Desertfox on 10-03-2010, 00:03:21
Ah, finally got pics of my SMLE:

http://img692.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=img0056te.jpg

 ;D
I never liked the SMLE, but I can't deny that it's pretty perdy.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Thorondor123 on 10-03-2010, 00:03:01
That's one sexy beast.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 10-03-2010, 07:03:39
I couldn't help but laugh that the picture with Mudra in it had more views than any other picture  ::)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 10-03-2010, 20:03:55
Nice smle, Its on my to buy list, all the way at the top.
Wont be able to start looking for one for at least another 6 months tough, weapons are expensive:p
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Ciupita on 10-03-2010, 20:03:31
I want SMLE too :(
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 10-03-2010, 20:03:54
Nice smle, Its on my to buy list, all the way at the top.
Wont be able to start looking for one for at least another 6 months tough, weapons are expensive:p

They're so beautiful <3  Mine was 475, with the sling, bayonet, and frog :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 10-03-2010, 20:03:36
My airsoft mate also has an SMLE. It is extremly well preserved, and when you hold it......


Gawd!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 10-03-2010, 20:03:19
Here they go for about 350/450, and that is without the bayonet. That is about 45 i think. a sling from ww2 is usualy 10. Luckely most are in verry nice condition. They are rarely matching numbers tough, those can go twice as expensive. Dous yours match?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 10-03-2010, 21:03:36
The enfield matches.  And it was made in 1918 ;)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 10-03-2010, 21:03:15
I noticed the 1918 on your pics :p

In that case its even better, i would say you did a nice sale there mate :D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 10-03-2010, 22:03:26
Yeah  ;D  <3 gun shows.  I think my next rifle will be an old musket, either flintlock or percussion cap.  :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: nephros on 10-03-2010, 22:03:57
Very nice SMLE! I am jealous.  A good SMLE is at the top of my wishlist.  There is one for sale that has a 1916 LSA receiver with a 1945 Lithgow rebarrel (which I like - WW1 British use, WW2 Aussie use perhaps) but complete mismatch otherwise with an Indian 'drill purpose' marked stock that was replaced by a collector. I'd like to hold out for a nice matching example like yours - you did well!

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 10-03-2010, 23:03:59
flintlock

finally, something I got that you don't!  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 10-03-2010, 23:03:46
haha :D

Well, good for you, but i think it wont take long before you both have one.

I cant really buy one, well, i could but i dont have the permits to shoot them.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 11-03-2010, 01:03:30
I would go with percussion cap, I always liked those a wee bit more than flintlocks
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Desertfox on 11-03-2010, 02:03:33
I would go with percussion cap, I always liked those a wee bit more than flintlocks
Flintlock sounds cooler though
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 11-03-2010, 02:03:14
they ARE cooler, but more dangerous--the flint can chip after it strikes the frizzen, also loose black powder can fly from the priming shallow, and because of the mechanism's placement, Wrist fractures are extremely common and costly to fix.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 11-03-2010, 02:03:21
If I got a flint lock, it would prob be a 1809 Prussian one, those look need with the brass guard.  If it was a cap, it would be either the 1855 Springfield with the tape of caps, or the 1861 springfield.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 11-03-2010, 02:03:42
If I got a flint lock, it would prob be a 1809 Prussian one, those look need with the brass guard.  If it was a cap, it would be either the 1855 Springfield with the tape of caps, or the 1861 springfield.

I got some specs on mine If you'll have them.

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Thorondor123 on 19-03-2010, 17:03:07
kp/31 SJR "Suomi" submachine gun:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/Thorondor123/militaria/013.jpg)

M/39 "Ukko-Pekka" rifle (with random spare parts from a M91):
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/Thorondor123/militaria/012.jpg)

Mosin & Nagant 1891 early model "rat's tail" bayonet and a 20 mm FLAK round:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/Thorondor123/militaria/014.jpg)

Mysterious bag of an unknown origin:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/Thorondor123/militaria/015.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 19-03-2010, 23:03:42
Neighbor gave me a Mark V stick used primarily in T33's and F86 Sabre's, will post pic on monday
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 24-04-2010, 21:04:26
(http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/2712/rusequip.jpg)

A 1898 Mosin nagant. Might have saw both world wars. It is not mine, but of a mate.

The vest and great soviet emblem are mine though. 3 VDV parade jacket. 7 euro for both :)  Shame the pants where already sold.

From 1979. Okay it is not WW2. But the Mosin nagant is
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: hankypanky on 25-04-2010, 08:04:36
Nice smle, Its on my to buy list, all the way at the top.
Wont be able to start looking for one for at least another 6 months tough, weapons are expensive:p

They're so beautiful <3  Mine was 475, with the sling, bayonet, and frog :)
Hay Mudra the bayonet slug isn't illegal where you live?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 25-04-2010, 10:04:15
Why would it be  ???
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: hankypanky on 25-04-2010, 18:04:05
Why would it be  ???
*sign* I should move out of Chicago lol.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 25-04-2010, 18:04:01
Chicago is a shithole for gun control...lol..... :(
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 25-04-2010, 18:04:17
  Hey look Muddy!  You found someone that lives in a bigger shit hole then Kalifornia.   ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: hankypanky on 26-04-2010, 00:04:23
Copy and past of a section of the Illinois gun control laws, form wikipedia :

Cook County has banned assault weapons and magazines that can hold more than ten rounds of ammunition.[94] Other municipalities have also enacted various firearm restrictions.[95] Lack of preemption makes it difficult to travel throughout Illinois with a firearm while being sure that no laws are being broken.

Illinois is one of two remaining states that have no provision for the concealed carry of firearms by citizens. (In compliance with the federal Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act, retired police officers who qualify annually under state guidelines are allowed to carry concealed.)[96] Open carry is also illegal, except when in unincorporated areas where carrying is not prohibited by county law, a fixed place of business with owner's permission, or in one's abode. When a firearm is being transported, it must be unloaded and enclosed in a case
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Oddball on 26-04-2010, 01:04:41
Damn, mine-as-well just require the fire-arm to be fully disasembled. Bout as handy as it'll be with those laws anyways... In the place where you might need a self-defense weapon the most, you can't have one.  >:(
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: hankypanky on 26-04-2010, 22:04:20
Damn, mine-as-well just require the fire-arm to be fully disasembled. Bout as handy as it'll be with those laws anyways... In the place where you might need a self-defense weapon the most, you can't have one.  >:(
exactly :(
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 26-04-2010, 23:04:50
I think its a good thing to be honest, those self defence weapons in the bedroom kill more playing children then criminals a year. So it might make you feel safe, but it isn't in reality.


To write is simple, here i have to put all my weapons (because i have more then 10 when i include my fathers as well) in a room made of brick with no windows with a door that is at least 4cm solid wood. It also has to lock on 3 places (so 3 locks) Weapons can never be loaded, ammunition has to be stored separate in a locked box.

When i travel they have to have a trigger lock, bold and magazine has to be removed and put in a seperate bag with the ammunition.

The type of permit that i have also says that i can never load more then 5 bullets, even is the weapon can take more. Also i have to take like 5 different documents to prove i can use the weapon.


Now, stop complaining, unless your commonwealth you have pretty loose rules.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 26-04-2010, 23:04:14
All "self defense guns," at least in California, have to be kept in a gun locker, or with a gun lock on them.  I have a gun locker.  That is a law I can get behind personally, at least if you have children.  Personally, as soon as my kids are old enough, I will take them to the shooting range, teach them how to shoot, and teach them full gun safety.  Of course, they won't be allowed to have the key to the gun locker...that stays on my person.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: hankypanky on 27-04-2010, 03:04:41
All "self defense guns," at least in California, have to be kept in a gun locker, or with a gun lock on them.  I have a gun locker.  That is a law I can get behind personally, at least if you have children.  Personally, as soon as my kids are old enough, I will take them to the shooting range, teach them how to shoot, and teach them full gun safety.  Of course, they won't be allowed to have the key to the gun locker...that stays on my person.
So what if you want to defend yourself on the street? All the criminals have guns, why can't good law abiding citizens have them too?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 27-04-2010, 04:04:05
In all but 2 states one is allowed to carry a gun openly as long as it is unloaded and is visible.  In almost all states as well, concealed weapons permits are allowed after examination, training, and sheriff's office approval.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 27-04-2010, 04:04:00
All "self defense guns," at least in California, have to be kept in a gun locker, or with a gun lock on them.  I have a gun locker.  That is a law I can get behind personally, at least if you have children.  Personally, as soon as my kids are old enough, I will take them to the shooting range, teach them how to shoot, and teach them full gun safety.  Of course, they won't be allowed to have the key to the gun locker...that stays on my person.

So if somebody breaks into your house, are you going to ask him to kindly wait while you go fetch and assemble your gun?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 27-04-2010, 09:04:55
Armed robbery is increasing here in Belgium.

in Belgium you MAY NOT=
1.Shoot at a burgaler.
2. Attack a burgaler if he is not threathing you.
3.Shoot a burgaler wich is holding a knife and saying=IM GONNA FUCKING CUT OPEN YOUR THROAT.

Basicly, you may only fire at a burgaler IF he threathend AND FIRED at you first. Believe it or not, this IS true.

you risk a HIGHER jail penalty then the burgaler if you do this! NO kidding
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Stefan on 27-04-2010, 09:04:50
wrong about number 3
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 27-04-2010, 10:04:04
All "self defense guns," at least in California, have to be kept in a gun locker, or with a gun lock on them.  I have a gun locker.  That is a law I can get behind personally, at least if you have children.  Personally, as soon as my kids are old enough, I will take them to the shooting range, teach them how to shoot, and teach them full gun safety.  Of course, they won't be allowed to have the key to the gun locker...that stays on my person.

So if somebody breaks into your house, are you going to ask him to kindly wait while you go fetch and assemble your gun?

Not assemble, its just locked.  FLick of a key and its out.  Although I WOULD personally have a gun out normally (until I have kids), california law is that if someone steals a gun that is not locked, then you count as aiding and abetting for any crimes committed using that gun.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 27-04-2010, 10:04:03
Armed robbery is increasing here in Belgium.

in Belgium you MAY NOT=
1.Shoot at a burgaler.
2. Attack a burgaler if he is not threathing you.
3.Shoot a burgaler wich is holding a knife and saying=IM GONNA FUCKING CUT OPEN YOUR THROAT.

Basicly, you may only fire at a burgaler IF he threathend AND FIRED at you first. Believe it or not, this IS true.

you risk a HIGHER jail penalty then the burgaler if you do this! NO kidding

If he is armed and threatens you while facing you inside your house, then you can shoot him in self defence.

And if he is already running away then there is a very big chance the jury will not find you guilty, of course you can't shoot him when he already is like 300m away from your house, running and unarmed.

If he is unarmed i would not advice to shoot, chances of prosecution are high then.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 27-04-2010, 11:04:03
Armed robbery is increasing here in Belgium.

in Belgium you MAY NOT=
1.Shoot at a burgaler.
2. Attack a burgaler if he is not threathing you.
3.Shoot a burgaler wich is holding a knife and saying=IM GONNA FUCKING CUT OPEN YOUR THROAT.

Basicly, you may only fire at a burgaler IF he threathend AND FIRED at you first. Believe it or not, this IS true.

you risk a HIGHER jail penalty then the burgaler if you do this! NO kidding

If he is armed and threatens you while facing you inside your house, then you can shoot him in self defence.

And if he is already running away then there is a very big chance the jury will not find you guilty, of course you can't shoot him when he already is like 300m away from your house, running and unarmed.

If he is unarmed i would not advice to shoot, chances of prosecution are high then.
True, but if you see a burgaler, he is holding a weapon, but he did not see you, yet you shoot him, you are found guilty

Go back in history, you will find alot of these stupid cases

Its like our police. They are only allowed to fire if the enemy fired at them first.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 27-04-2010, 11:04:48
That is because it is illegal to shoot some in the back, yell at him first so he turns around, then you hit him in the front or right side and your off the hook :D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: General Tso on 27-04-2010, 17:04:01
I keep forgetting to take a picture of the bayonet I have, but I will do it now that I've posted about it here.

Basically, I was told that it was dropped on one of the invasion beaches in Normandy.  Don't know which one of course, but I would love to know where it's from.

It has a steel scabbard, and near the hilt of the bayonet there is a crown with a few numbers, including a "No. 4."  That would mean it's probably from a British or Canadian Enfield rifle, right?  It also seems a lot shorter than most of the No. 4 bayonets I've seen here.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 27-04-2010, 17:04:09
Can you see it in this picture?
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d85/Claven2/Enfield%20stuff/DSCN0218.jpg)

Also, can you give us a little bit more information about it if not plz?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 27-04-2010, 18:04:22
Question for those who know. On my stg44 buttstock there is a "hidden" room on top of it with a plate of some kind that you can lift up, anyone know what this is for? soldiers diary maybe? money?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 27-04-2010, 18:04:08
Question for those who know. On my stg44 buttstock there is a "hidden" room on top of it with a plate of some kind that you can lift up, anyone know what this is for? soldiers diary maybe? money?

Cleaning tools.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 27-04-2010, 18:04:23
Almost every rifle has it, In my Enfield they put a piece of cloth, some rope and a bottle of oil in it.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 27-04-2010, 18:04:29
hmm, never seen such before ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 27-04-2010, 19:04:04
Yep, its for cleaning tools :P  I still have to get the pull cord, oil, and cloth for my enfield....
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: General Tso on 27-04-2010, 20:04:02
Can you see it in this picture?

(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d85/Claven2/Enfield%20stuff/DSCN0218.jpg)

Also, can you give us a little bit more information about it if not plz?

It's probably closest to the second knife from the left, but it has absolutely no wood on it.  The handle is round, with a textured grip.

I'll get a picture tonight.  The camera and bayonet are never in the same place.   ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: General Tso on 28-04-2010, 03:04:54
OK, here are some pics.  It's about 13 inches long or 33 cm.

(http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/7820/dsc00811ts.jpg)

Here are the numerals and crown:

(http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/2679/dsc00813pt.jpg)

Hollow shaft:
(http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/8580/dsc00814f.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 28-04-2010, 03:04:10
No idea, although I thought you stabbed your couch for a moment.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 28-04-2010, 04:04:16
Its not a No4 rifle bayonet, and the crown could be a lot of different nations.  I think what interests me the most is the weird hollow grip :S
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sheikyerbouti on 28-04-2010, 06:04:57
It looks like a facsimile of a Mauser 1896 bayonet but I can't tell any further because bayonets are boring to me.

 i only say Mauser because of the weird fitting that screws into the rifle stock. maybe some knife keener will have better details.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 28-04-2010, 10:04:07
It's a Swedish bayonet, for on the Mauser 1896.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: General Tso on 28-04-2010, 17:04:35
It's a Swedish bayonet, for on the Mauser 1896.

Nice work!

Here it is: http://arms2armor.com/Bayonets/swed1896.htm

Either the antiques dealer was wrong (probably likely), or what the hell was this bayonet doing in Normandy?

The antiques dealer said he got a bunch of stuff from a recently deceased WWII vet including his old uniform and other mementos.  I got it about 10 years ago.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 28-04-2010, 17:04:51
Probably was just wrong :P  Very need attachment system on that bayonet though.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 28-04-2010, 17:04:50
I have never seen any bayonet like that before.

anyway, to show what's in the Butt stock of a No4 rifle here are 2 pictures, Yes I know I should clean the brass but I am lazy, mkay?!
(http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/4103/p1020284f.jpg)
(http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/3599/p1020285.jpg)

And here are some pics of my new Nagant 1895. Made in 1944, and in what i call a 100% perfect condition.
(http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/9686/p1020264k.jpg)
(http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/6126/p1020271i.jpg)
(http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/7291/p1020279j.jpg)
(http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/6659/p1020275k.jpg)
(http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/5093/p1020280p.jpg)
(http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/91/p1020272y.jpg)
(http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/5343/p1020281e.jpg)
(http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/9358/p1020276j.jpg)

and an official red army screwdriver.
(http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/1786/p1020282b.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 28-04-2010, 19:04:05
It's a Swedish bayonet, for on the Mauser 1896.

Nice work!

Here it is: http://arms2armor.com/Bayonets/swed1896.htm

Either the antiques dealer was wrong (probably likely), or what the hell was this bayonet doing in Normandy?

The antiques dealer said he got a bunch of stuff from a recently deceased WWII vet including his old uniform and other mementos.  I got it about 10 years ago.

It's on my bayonet wishlist, just for the unique handle.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: panzer66 on 28-04-2010, 19:04:58
i own a small war museum in zeeland (holland)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 28-04-2010, 21:04:53
i own a small war museum in zeeland (holland)

Really, that's so cool, what do you have, do you have pictures??

Anyway, made a small demo movie of the Nagant. Nothing much, but might be interesting to some.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE23RfoeE9Q
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: panzer66 on 28-04-2010, 21:04:11
i have some sten guns mp40's a PAK cannon mausers k89's lee enfields thompson submachine guns mg42 fg43 some pistols uniforms radio's willy jeep panzerfaust's bayonets mosin nagant rifle ppsh submachine gun

and much more

sorry no pictures i'm a little low on money because i just bought the 2 russian guns
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Steel_Lion_FIN on 28-04-2010, 21:04:44
Pics or you're a douche.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: panzer66 on 28-04-2010, 21:04:16
http://www.museumswitchback.nl/
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 28-04-2010, 22:04:59
i am SO fcking pissed i dint came along with Siben....

i could have got my own Nagant revolver for 200€.......
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 28-04-2010, 22:04:55
i am SO fcking pissed i dint came along with Siben....

i could have got my own Nagant revolver for 200€.......

No you wouldn't, it would have been €180  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 28-04-2010, 23:04:02
http://www.southernohiogun.com/nagant-mod-1895-revolver-7-62nagant-1.html

Could have gotten one for $79......But now they are out of stock.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 28-04-2010, 23:04:51
Pfft American prises don't count here, hey what is this, a working mg-34 in nice condition for €1250? I wonder what those cost in the states  8)

For us it is cheap, 1 years ago these revolvers costed €375 a piece, they might still go cheaper, but i am glad i got mine.

Do you have this revolver somewhere in your vast collection? You really should take some detailed pics of your WW2 stuff one day, not just a distant picture.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 29-04-2010, 00:04:44
Pfft American prises don't count here, hey what is this, a working mg-34 in nice condition for €1250? I wonder what those cost in the states  8)

For us it is cheap, 1 years ago these revolvers costed €375 a piece, they might still go cheaper, but i am glad i got mine.

Do you have this revolver somewhere in your vast collection? You really should take some detailed pics of your WW2 stuff one day, not just a distant picture.

  True that..Last I checked a transferable MG34 was about $35,000+ and that was years ago.  Hell there are some nice super cheap guns up in Canada I lust over but can't acquire due to stupid US laws.  We just started getting some of this company's  http://web68.gil.kundenserver42.de/index.php?lang=en guns into the states from Germany. 

Never really got into the soviet stuff.  I guess the biggest thing stopping me is the ammo.  I just really don't want to have to another oddball ammo to keep around.  I can't even afford to shoot the guns that I have now.  I will get some better pics of that WWII stuff on here in the future.  Especially my Belgian Mauser in .30-06.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 29-04-2010, 00:04:17
Pfft American prises don't count here, hey what is this, a working mg-34 in nice condition for €1250? I wonder what those cost in the states  8)

Semi auto MG34s cost about 2000-3000 bucks here :P  Its the full auto that are expensive, the price range is indeed in the 30000-40000 range still.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Kading on 29-04-2010, 04:04:27
Pfft American prises don't count here, hey what is this, a working mg-34 in nice condition for €1250? I wonder what those cost in the states  8)

True, but we can fire them with actual ammunition on full auto without fear of being shot back at by roving gangs of Bosnians.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Oddball on 29-04-2010, 05:04:08
Pfft American prises don't count here, hey what is this, a working mg-34 in nice condition for €1250? I wonder what those cost in the states  8)

Semi auto MG34s cost about 2000-3000 bucks here :P  Its the full auto that are expensive, the price range is indeed in the 30000-40000 range still.
Still? That price can only go up from here.  :o Unless the intest in WW2 begins to fall, which it might, then they may become affordable again. However, until then I refuse to pay the price of a car for a gun.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Ionizer on 29-04-2010, 05:04:50
Pfft American prises don't count here, hey what is this, a working mg-34 in nice condition for €1250? I wonder what those cost in the states  8)

True, but we can fire them with actual ammunition on full auto without fear of being shot back at by roving gangs of Bosnians.

I misread that as "Bosleys" and imagined a bunch of Charlie's Angels charging at a machine gun position and getting mowed down.   :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Hockeywarrior on 29-04-2010, 05:04:40
Pfft American prises don't count here, hey what is this, a working mg-34 in nice condition for €1250? I wonder what those cost in the states  8)

True, but we can fire them with actual ammunition on full auto without fear of being shot back at by roving gangs of Bosnians.
You sir, just earned an internet cookie.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 29-04-2010, 05:04:09
+1 Ion.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 29-04-2010, 05:04:33
Pfft American prises don't count here, hey what is this, a working mg-34 in nice condition for €1250? I wonder what those cost in the states  8)

Semi auto MG34s cost about 2000-3000 bucks here :P  Its the full auto that are expensive, the price range is indeed in the 30000-40000 range still.
Still? That price can only go up from here.  :o Unless the intest in WW2 begins to fall, which it might, then they may become affordable again. However I refuse to pay the price of a car for a gun.

Meh...This is why I drive a junk car from the early 80's.  Guns come first!  You lack discipline!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Oddball on 29-04-2010, 06:04:42
Pfft American prises don't count here, hey what is this, a working mg-34 in nice condition for €1250? I wonder what those cost in the states  8)

Semi auto MG34s cost about 2000-3000 bucks here :P  Its the full auto that are expensive, the price range is indeed in the 30000-40000 range still.
Still? That price can only go up from here.  :o Unless the intest in WW2 begins to fall, which it might, then they may become affordable again. However I refuse to pay the price of a car for a gun.

Meh...This is why I drive a junk car from the early 80's.  Guns come first!  You lack discipline!
Normally I would agree, although, not only could you get a car for that price, but by the time your done firing it once at the range, you probably spent a year worth of gasoline in bullets for about 30 minutes of fun at the range. I must draw a line at some point. Therefore, If I ever did get an Mg34/42 it would probably only server as static display or ceremonialy shootings.... which is why i'd rather just spend a fraction of the price to get a semi-auto one.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 29-04-2010, 09:04:18
Well, yeah, when you own a MG you don't go shooting with it every week, 8mm Mauser bullets are about 55 cents a piece. Munition for my Nagant revolver comes at around 2 euro a piece.  very expensive shooting.


and euhm, i can shoot it, it is just hard, i believe if i pay the right amount i can go to the military shooting range at Leopoldsburg where i can shoot whatever the hell i want since it is no longer civilian. Also i can just get an international license and go to whatever country that allows shooting it.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Oddball on 29-04-2010, 20:04:51
Well, yeah, when you own a MG you don't go shooting with it every week, 8mm Mauser bullets are about 55 cents a piece. Munition for my Nagant revolver comes at around 2 euro a piece.  very expensive shooting.


and euhm, i can shoot it, it is just hard, i believe if i pay the right amount i can go to the military shooting range at Leopoldsburg where i can shoot whatever the hell i want since it is no longer civilian. Also i can just get an international license and go to whatever country that allows shooting it.
Yeah, of course you wouldn't go shooting every week.  :P But even still...and yeah that is why I love shooting .22's, you can buy ammo for under $0.05 a round, so pretty much you can just sit around all day and shoot with that stuff. .55 cents a round is pretty pricey, and i'm not sure how common 8mm Mauser is around here, since I don't have an 8mm, but I'm sure they're not that hard to come by. However 2 euros a piece is rediculous, that is more than .50 cal ammo cost per round. Which is why I'm not that motivated to get a Nagant or even a British Mark revolver with .455 ammo, the pistols themselves might be cheapl, but the ammo is expensive. As far as shooting goes, that's not a problem. I can shoot on either of my properties, as long as you are 500 yards away from someone elses property and shooting in a safe direction your good to go.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 29-04-2010, 21:04:52
Same here, most of the time i shoot .22 Remington because they are so cheap.

As for common munition, no they are not, i have been to more then 10 different stores, and almost every time that i ask for it they say they have no .303, no 8mm Mauser and no 7,5 Swiss. Once there was someone who had 12 boxes of 15 bullets of some 1950's made military Mauser bullets, on stripper clips, that where not even 5 Euro for 15. but every other time i had bad luck. Sure, they all want to order a crate for you, no problem, but for my mauser the order is a minimum of 1500 bullets! i don't have the money for that, lol, and if i have to do that for every calibre that i own i would be broke. The only thing shops here seem to sell is .22, 9mm and .38, all the rest already starts to get harder to find.

After a lot of asking around i did find someone that imports prvi partizan. Those are good, but not so cheap unfortunately. I can buy 20 bullet boxes there for about 12 euro, .303, mauser, swiss, all the same price.


Belgium is the same, you can shoot on private property at a certain distance from the road, but the bullet can not be able to leave you property, and since nobody owns more then 4,5 km of land here the only option you have is to build a bunker (including a roof) that is able to stop your bullets and is at least 50 meters long (has to be that for high power rifles, pistols is 25m)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Oddball on 29-04-2010, 21:04:33
Same here, most of the time i shoot .22 Remington because they are so cheap.

As for common munition, no they are not, i have been to more then 10 different stores, and almost every time that i ask for it they say they have no .303, no 8mm Mauser and no 7,5 Swiss. Once there was someone who had 12 boxes of 15 bullets of some 1950's made military Mauser bullets, on stripper clips, that where not even 5 Euro for 15. but every other time i had bad luck. Sure, they all want to order a crate for you, no problem, but for my mauser the order is a minimum of 1500 bullets! i don't have the money for that, lol, and if i have to do that for every calibre that i own i would be broke. The only thing shops here seem to sell is .22, 9mm and .38, all the rest already starts to get harder to find.

After a lot of asking around i did find someone that imports prvi partizan. Those are good, but not so cheap unfortunately. I can buy 20 bullet boxes there for about 12 euro, .303, mauser, swiss, all the same price.


Belgium is the same, you can shoot on private property at a certain distance from the road, but the bullet can not be able to leave you property, and since nobody owns more then 4,5 km of land here the only option you have is to build a bunker (including a roof) that is able to stop your bullets and is at least 50 meters long (has to be that for high power rifles, pistols is 25m)
Yeah, I feel your pain with the variety of ammo types lol. I know .303 British is def. hard to acquire here, and if you find it, it's really expensive. Plus a lot of the other types such as 16 ga., .25 ACP, 38-40, and 4/10 just to name a few.

As far as not having enough room to shoot I saw this article a few days ago and I thought it was pretty cool, not sure if it's legal or not.  :D
http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/03/02/build-a-75-foot-target-range-in-your-basement/?Qwd=./ModernMechanix/10-1932/basement_shooting_range&Qif=basement_shooting_range_0.jpg&Qiv=thumbs&Qis=XL#qdig
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 29-04-2010, 22:04:38
That is a very nice article, and would indeed be perfectly legal here as long as you don't go digging in someone else his yard. Lol, would be a cool summer project :D If only groundwater was a bit more deep, during summer its fine with over 2 meters sometimes, but spring and fall it's not even 50cm. so there would be a lot of work waterproofing it.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 30-04-2010, 00:04:19
I get 8mm mauser for .18Cents/round out by me now only if the 8mm kurz was that cheap.  Well I guess im stuck reloading.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Oddball on 30-04-2010, 00:04:30
I get 8mm mauser for .18Cents/round out by me now only if the 8mm kurz was that cheap.  Well I guess im stuck reloading.
Nice, that's a really good price. I was just browsing through a magazine and surplus 8mm mauser is about $0.52 around here. Reloading isn't that bad, I know some people who prefer it, especially competetor shooters, it allows them to have a precise loadout. A friend of mine has over 50,000 .223 shells to reload.  :-X That's probably more ammo than the whole 1st Infantry Division.   :D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 30-04-2010, 18:04:34
I get 8mm mauser for .18Cents/round out by me now only if the 8mm kurz was that cheap.  Well I guess im stuck reloading.

Do you have an STG-44? I don't believe i have seen pictures of that, care to post some detailed ones?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 30-04-2010, 23:04:33
Its a Hanel MP44 made from a parts kit and rebuilt as 922r compliant semi auto rifle (not by me) with the same method as the SSD semi Mp44

(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x260/bmwr12/semi01-1-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Ionizer on 30-04-2010, 23:04:51
Its a Hanel MP44 made from a parts kit and rebuilt as 922r compliant semi auto rifle (not by me) with the same method as the SSD semi Mp44

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x260/bmwr12/semi01-1-1.jpg

Awesome.  I have no idea what half that sentence means, but sweet StG.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 01-05-2010, 00:05:41
Its a Hanel MP44 made from a parts kit and rebuilt as 922r compliant semi auto rifle (not by me) with the same method as the SSD semi Mp44

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x260/bmwr12/semi01-1-1.jpg

Awesome.  I have no idea what half that sentence means, but sweet StG.

Its built the same way they make the semi mg34,42 etc. You start with a parts kit that was once a working gun but the reciever is cut into 3 pieces. The 922r is a ATF guideline for building a semi auto rifle that uses imported parts. It basically means all of the full auto parts are removed and replaced with semi auto only parts.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 01-05-2010, 00:05:04
How much does that cost to do though?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 01-05-2010, 00:05:42
How much does that cost to do though?


I went this route because I wanted a 2 tone rifle and I lost hope in the SSD guns,they ended up coming out almost a year later though. I can tell you it cost a tad bit more then the SSD guns which sell for $5,000. Also keep in mind a original mag now runs about $500 average but as high as $1000. You are going to pay probably $3500 for a parts kit that has a reweldable reciever then throw in the cost of having new parts made and modifiing original parts.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 01-05-2010, 00:05:31
  Ohhh kinda unrelated but not really.  Shotgun news just came out with an issue with some cool articles on axis bolt guns of WW2 as well as the P38 and a "How to build a Suomi from a parts kit" tutorial.  I meant to message you this Muddy but then I got drunk and forgot.   :(
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 01-05-2010, 01:05:52
Oohhh, I'll have to pick that up, considering my suomi parts kit is still in well...parts....

And ugh, I really hope one day I can have the spending cash to afford something like that bmwr xD
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 01-05-2010, 01:05:45
Oohhh, I'll have to pick that up, considering my suomi parts kit is still in well...parts....

And ugh, I really hope one day I can have the spending cash to afford something like that bmwr xD

Yep I never thought I would have all of the stuff I got now 5 years ago.. But for reenacting the 44 is the piece to have :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 08-05-2010, 22:05:01
G 88 for sale, matching numbers and dated 1890. What do you guys think, worth to go and have a look at? Price is €275, working condition.
(http://img.2dehands.be/f/preview/73134971-gew88-steyr-1890.jpg)

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 09-05-2010, 03:05:00
G 88 for sale, matching numbers and dated 1890. What do you guys think, worth to go and have a look at? Price is €275, working condition.
(http://img.2dehands.be/f/preview/73134971-gew88-steyr-1890.jpg)



You reload?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 09-05-2010, 04:05:35
Is it modified to 7.92X57mm?

And that price is a good price for a nice G88
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 09-05-2010, 06:05:51
  Saw one of these on the cheap years ago but it was something the seller advised not to shoot.  Did I fuck up for a little over $100?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 09-05-2010, 10:05:15
Yeah, you did.  And some fire perfectly fine, some you shouldn't unless you get them worked on by a gunsmith.  My friend has one, one of the ones modded in the early 1900s to feed by normal stripper clip, and it fires great.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 29-05-2010, 12:05:12
Somehow I was in a Spanish bayonet mood and got a long Mauser bayonet from the Spanish Civil War for 15 euros. In this state they usually go for 35/45 I think.

And yesterday I received my 1941 Bolo bayonet with matching numbers and in amazing state. I think they look awesome, I surely like the wooden handles with zigzag pattern.

Anyway pics!

(http://i50.tinypic.com/250mamr.jpg)

(http://i46.tinypic.com/f2nhjt.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Oddball on 29-05-2010, 19:05:06
What's up with the blade on the above one. Suppose to be like that? I don't recall so....somone grind it down to make it more like a machette blade to? So they could use it also for hacking?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 29-05-2010, 19:05:34
 It's supposed to be like that, it's a bolo blade  :) The odd looking blade is the thing why I like that one so much, it's unique.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Oddball on 29-05-2010, 19:05:19
It's supposed to be like that, it's a bolo blade  :) The odd looking blade is the thing why I like that one so much, it's unique.
It seems I missed that part...
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 29-05-2010, 19:05:45
I´ve got something for this thread, too. It´s nothing fancy as a rifle, a baynonet or Hitlers Mercedes-Benz, but still an important piece. It´s a German WW2 ammo box for 8mm Mauser rifle rounds. I got it from a friend who was in the army and "organised" it from somewhere. :D
Anyway, here are the pics:
The outside of the box, the text says "Airtight ammo box":
(http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/7199/img0355nr.th.jpg) (http://img20.imageshack.us/i/img0355nr.jpg/)

View of the opened box:
(http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/3006/imag0126zy0.th.jpg) (http://img122.imageshack.us/i/imag0126zy0.jpg/)

Remains of the inside description paper:
(http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/1927/imag0128th8.th.jpg) (http://img116.imageshack.us/i/imag0128th8.jpg/)

It´s quite heavy, because it´s made from heavy wood and the inner part is made of metal as you can see on the photos. I currently use it to store my airsoft stuff, so it kinda fulfils its purpose of storing ammo again. ^^
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 29-05-2010, 21:05:19
For me thats just as important, I don't see them that often  :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 04-06-2010, 03:06:18
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/2639/img0023wz.jpg
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/5927/img0022j.jpg
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/6243/img0021du.jpg
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http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/3203/img0019uq.jpg
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/4953/img0018ai.jpg
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http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/9676/img0015ja.jpg
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/1065/img0012yy.jpg
http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/9526/img0011ta.jpg
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/5467/img0009iq.jpg
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/3203/img0008sg.jpg
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http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/4848/img0001lq.jpg
http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/7498/img9999y.jpg
http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/8341/img9997l.jpg
http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/1993/img9995j.jpg
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 04-06-2010, 03:06:58
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/5467/img0009iq.jpg
Ah, you got a corsett for your birthday!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 04-06-2010, 03:06:29
Patch is from the American 78th Infantry, The insignia on the helmet I can't find anything on.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Oddball on 04-06-2010, 04:06:40
Gentle Jesus! I had to call a bomb squad, I though my computer was going to blow up with those images... >:(
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Hockeywarrior on 04-06-2010, 04:06:35
For the love of GOD use thumbnails .... this isn't the first time you've done this on this thread either ....
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 04-06-2010, 09:06:28
For the love of GOD use thumbnails .... this isn't the first time you've done this on this thread either ....

Nono, don't use thumbnails, then when i click them then the picture opens in another window, and half the time i get some advertisement, i never click those, they are a pain in the but, they take like 20 seconds till i can see them on this old beast. They way they are now is perfect, maybe a bit big, but they fit the screen nicely and are clear.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 04-06-2010, 09:06:45
  Just use freaking photobucket.  You guys fail at the internets.

I bow to your bayo collection Fuchs.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Thorondor123 on 04-06-2010, 11:06:53
The width tag does not change the actual size of the image. They are still over 6 megs per picture. If you absolutely need to post huge pictures, use just plain links. If you wan' to show them on the forum, resize them.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 04-06-2010, 12:06:39
I bow to your bayo collection Fuchs.

Many thanks. Let me bow to your huge pile of firearms which I wish I could have  :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 05-06-2010, 01:06:16
My newest scores.

1. Original Ordnance tan Dienstglas binoculars with super mint Bakelite case. It has all of the bells and whistles. It has the case neck strap, binocs neck strap,spare lenses, rain cap, button flap, and camo cover.
(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x260/bmwr12/DSC01458.jpg)
(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x260/bmwr12/DSC01459.jpg)

2. Excellent Mp44 pouches.I think they are a really good copy made with original material.
(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x260/bmwr12/pouch.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 05-06-2010, 01:06:29
Super mint? If thats super mint I wonder how bad looking a 'normal' mint is  ;) It got alot of dents and scratches so for it's age I would say it's looking quite good but not in the alley of mr. supermanmint.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 05-06-2010, 02:06:25
Most bakelite cases and items are chipped and deeply scratched mostly due to age. My Mg34 bakelite stock looks good from 12 inches away but if you look closely, you can see the laquered type finish is slightly chipping away. It is a primitive plastic and becomes very brittle with age. Also almost all of the leather belt staps and latch straps are destroyed or missing on these cases, mine are super nice and original.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 05-06-2010, 13:06:52
Hehe, it's cool, it only annoys me how most Americans are prone to using mint with every non-rusty item they buy, E-bay is spammed with it  :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Oddball on 05-06-2010, 21:06:01
Hehe, it's cool, it only annoys me how most Americans are prone to using mint with every non-rusty item they buy, E-bay is spammed with it  :P
I will never buy an Item from ebay...
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 05-06-2010, 22:06:32
Hehe, it's cool, it only annoys me how most Americans are prone to using mint with every non-rusty item they buy, E-bay is spammed with it  :P
I will never buy an Item from ebay...

I buy lots of stuff from there and it was the only way to locate most of the rare military parts for my BMW R12 motorcycle.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Oddball on 05-06-2010, 22:06:29
Hehe, it's cool, it only annoys me how most Americans are prone to using mint with every non-rusty item they buy, E-bay is spammed with it  :P
I will never buy an Item from ebay...

I buy lots of stuff from there and it was the only way to locate most of the rare military parts for my BMW R12 motorcycle.
Really? There arn't special dealers or forum places that deal with BMW R12 motorcycles? I know I deal with the Willy/Ford MB/GPW/CJ-2A (Civilians version) Jeeps a lot, however - I know they are more common - but I buy more of the harder parts from places like the G503.com, beachwoodcanvas.com, Midwest Military, and other various places that I know i'm getting genuine parts from, preferably N.O.S or takeoffs that are in good, original condidtion, and if necessary I will buy some new reproduction parts if I absolutely can't find anywhere else. In matter of fact I don't even sell anything on ebay. I have a ton of MV parts I'm dragging to a MV show next weekend. M37, Various Dodge, M-38, other M-Series, and even A 1941 Ben-Hur 1 ton trailer, almost all original, Complete with top bows, original serial number on the tailgate, N.O.S brakecables, New tires (all 3), lunette, and low serial number...it's complete if you kow anyone that's intrested in that.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 06-06-2010, 00:06:22
The Yahoo kradrider group is good for info and sources of some items but usually not many parts forsale. There are a million times more repro parts then original ones. So you are stuck with ebay germany or the various dealers who have anywhere from good to horrible parts.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 06-06-2010, 01:06:32
does anyone know the insignia on my new helmet is?


Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Oddball on 06-06-2010, 06:06:18
does anyone know the insignia on my new helmet is?



I thought it was the same insignia as the patch....no? I think it is dude, both the 78th.. "Lightning" Division, WW1
http://www.thedigitalbookshelf.us/division_78.htm
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 06-06-2010, 06:06:07
http://www.xixcorps.nl/XIX_Corps_Units_%28D%29_78th_Infantry.htm

Damn, Oddball beat me to it
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 06-06-2010, 06:06:01
No, I don't think it is the same as the patch.  The lightning bolts have the same number of vertices and the same background, but the lightning bolt on the helmet is gold, thicker, more angled toward the 90 degree mark.  It is possible, but I doubt it.  Also, I think this is WWII, instead of WWI.  Its in much too good condition for a WWI helmet, isn't it?

Everything about this to me is conflicting. I see helmets with both on.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_845HCUrBKSo/SQOApeLtseI/AAAAAAAAACU/qRDK_oNGNJo/s320/78+00.jpg)
(http://www.militarycollectorshq.com/images/us0404enlarge.jpg)

So is it British or American? WWI or WWII?  78th or something else? Rare or not?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 06-06-2010, 06:06:05
No its not, and its def WW1, and that's fine condition for a WW1 helmet.  That is def the 78th.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Oddball on 06-06-2010, 06:06:08
Yeah, I believe so too, the color might be off for various reason, it looks pretty original to me, but maybe someone did a retouch job, I doubt it, but maube the colors just kind of faded, or perhaps the paint was slightly different.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 06-06-2010, 07:06:09
Well, I think it was an excellent find, the price was $65!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Oddball on 06-06-2010, 07:06:11
I can't say, Idk much about WW1, looks nice though.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 06-06-2010, 07:06:37
Yeah, I believe so too, the color might be off for various reason, it looks pretty original to me, but maybe someone did a retouch job, I doubt it, but maube the colors just kind of faded, or perhaps the paint was slightly different.

Generally, divisional insignia was added to the helmets post-war by vets, a lot of them have it.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: panzer66 on 06-06-2010, 10:06:15
yeah its a ww1 helmet and if it was a british ww2 helmet then it was not so high
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Mayhemic.MAD on 06-06-2010, 14:06:20
I grew up with these, never found anything wrong with it when I was a kid !  :-[
(http://www.mayhemic.net/images/photo/tnDSC00260.JPG) (http://www.mayhemic.net/images/photo/DSC00260.JPG)
I got these from my cousin when i was young. Not sure when and were they were made.

A game made during War time, found it in my grandparents house. My father told me they used to play it often when he was a kid.
(http://www.mayhemic.net/images/photo/tnDSC00261.JPG) (http://www.mayhemic.net/images/photo/DSC00261.JPG)
Sadly, I couldn´t find the small ship figures anymore.

(click the images for fullsize pics)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Dnarag1M on 06-06-2010, 14:06:22
That dunkurque class battleship ....I love these. Such an intelligent design with the exclusively forward mounted guns ; giving you eight barrels pointing at the enemy while having a minimal silhouette greatly decreasing the chance of being hit. ++++ <3
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 06-06-2010, 19:06:21
A game made during War time, found it in my grandparents house. My father told me they used to play it often when he was a kid.
http://www.mayhemic.net/images/photo/tnDSC00261.JPG
Sadly, I couldn´t find the small ship figures anymore.

(click the images for fullsize pics)

That, if I am not Mistaken is the German board game "Mit 'Prein' Gegen England."
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Mayhemic.MAD on 06-06-2010, 21:06:02
A game made during War time, found it in my grandparents house. My father told me they used to play it often when he was a kid.
http://www.mayhemic.net/images/photo/tnDSC00261.JPG
Sadly, I couldn´t find the small ship figures anymore.

(click the images for fullsize pics)

That, if I am not Mistaken is the German board game "Mit 'Prein' Gegen England."

Nice find, but it seems to be a different Game.
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/33027/mit-prien-gegen-england (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/33027/mit-prien-gegen-england)
As you can see on the pic from the board, the 'Priem' game is about getting into Scappa Flow.
The one I have includes France and Ireland and was with battleships afaik, not just U-boats.

There seems to have been a lot of these games. Story about German Wartime Games:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-476361/German-children-played-Bombers-England-boardgames-WWII.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-476361/German-children-played-Bombers-England-boardgames-WWII.html)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 09-06-2010, 23:06:45
My grandma was smart enough to save some newspapers.

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/5838/img0040af.jpg
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/6821/img0039mz.jpg
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/613/img0038ne.jpg
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Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: MaJ.P.Bouras on 10-06-2010, 15:06:22
Will post pictures as soon as i find a decent camera.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 10-06-2010, 15:06:09
My grandma was smart enough to save some newspapers.

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Thanks, i love reading the articles, its war and what is in the news? bus drivers on strike because they want to make more money, $1,60 an hour ain't enough it seems.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 12-06-2010, 04:06:08
Found some more of Gramma's Stuff:
(http://img816.imageshack.us/img816/4776/img0042u.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 29-06-2010, 14:06:11
Hey guys question

I am eager to start in the beginning of next year with a collection of WW2 sidearms. Pistols and revolvers.I plan to wait with my bolt-action rifle collection

I was wondering how much would these cost?=

-M1917 .45ACP revolver
-Webley revolvers ( MKIV)
-M1887 Nagant (One siben got costed 200€ brand new)

If possible, with variable conditions.
Thanks!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 29-06-2010, 21:06:41
Well, it all depends on witch country you are from so the prices someone from the us, uk or even germany are  verry likely not what the prices are in Belgium.

I do not know the prices of the Webley, i think between 500 and 800. I once saw premium examples with a holster going for 950, but i  would never pay that much, i would say no more then 600 unless it is really good. I have not even seen a m1917 for sale here so it might go into the 800, but that is just a guess.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 29-06-2010, 23:06:42
For example, a guy bought a webley at a reenactment for 200.  I've seen mosin revolvers here going for 80 bucks.  But it might be much different there :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 29-06-2010, 23:06:36
Well, i have seen last ditch made in the last months of the war number matching K98k's go for about 80 a piece, but you cant really use them since they where not even made resistant to rust and they are made soooo crude. They still work mechanicly tough, but the barrel, chamber and the whole bolt just look awefull compared to my 43 made mauser.

Prices depend on where the stocks where sold. Since the us is a big country with a huge gunmarket they go there first usualy. Sometimes a european imports some weapons in good condition from some military stock but those are rare and usualy limited to 1 country.

I was in france 2 years ago, saw a perfect wartime MAS 38 for 180 euro at a local gunshop. But due to silly laws (eventough in my country it is considered antique and not a firearm) he could not sell it to me. A real darn shame.... Here they go for 3 times as much, and it was only 500km from where i live.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 30-06-2010, 00:06:55
Well, i have seen last ditch made in the last months of the war number matching K98k's go for about 80 a piece, but you cant really use them since they where not even made resistant to rust and they are made soooo crude. They still work mechanicly tough, but the barrel, chamber and the whole bolt just look awefull compared to my 43 made mauser.

Wow I have been out of the Mauser collecting for awhile now but I was under the impression that those last ditch Mausers actually went for more then normal shooters here in the states.  Like a lot more.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 30-06-2010, 01:06:28
Yeah, the last ditch ones are incredibly rare....
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Johannes on 30-06-2010, 07:06:39
I was in france 2 years ago, saw a perfect wartime MAS 38 for 180 euro at a local gunshop. But due to silly laws (eventough in my country it is considered antique and not a firearm) he could not sell it to me. A real darn shame.... Here they go for 3 times as much, and it was only 500km from where i live.

 :o

I thought full-auto weapons were no longer legal to own in France. Was it rendered semi-automatic?

In any case... I totally want one! It would go so perfectly alongside my MAS 36. I've only seen one deactivated one for sale online here in the U.S., and they want $2,000.

Anyway, since a move to France is in the plans, I'm not acquiring any more weapons. It will be a pain figuring out how to repatriate my MAS 36 (not intending to dispose of it, as it's a rare May 1940-dated J-serial!), as well as paying for the enormous costs that will entail.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Oddball on 30-06-2010, 07:06:44
I was in france 2 years ago, saw a perfect wartime MAS 38 for 180 euro at a local gunshop. But due to silly laws (eventough in my country it is considered antique and not a firearm) he could not sell it to me. A real darn shame.... Here they go for 3 times as much, and it was only 500km from where i live.

 :o

I thought full-auto weapons were no longer legal to own in France. Was it rendered semi-automatic?

In any case... I totally want one! It would go so perfectly alongside my MAS 36. I've only seen one deactivated one for sale online here in the U.S., and they want $2,000.

Anyway, since a move to France is in the plans, I'm not acquiring any more weapons. It will be a pain figuring out how to repatriate my MAS 36 (not intending to dispose of it, as it's a rare May 1940-dated J-serial!), as well as paying for the enormous costs that will entail.
Well... I don't promote illegal conduct, however, I know this guy..... j/king  ;D What provoked the move to France? Your going to have a very hard time getting those firearms authorized in another country... Alwell, good luck.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 30-06-2010, 09:06:40
I was in france 2 years ago, saw a perfect wartime MAS 38 for 180 euro at a local gunshop. But due to silly laws (eventough in my country it is considered antique and not a firearm) he could not sell it to me. A real darn shame.... Here they go for 3 times as much, and it was only 500km from where i live.

 :o

I thought full-auto weapons were no longer legal to own in France. Was it rendered semi-automatic?

In any case... I totally want one! It would go so perfectly alongside my MAS 36. I've only seen one deactivated one for sale online here in the U.S., and they want $2,000.

Anyway, since a move to France is in the plans, I'm not acquiring any more weapons. It will be a pain figuring out how to repatriate my MAS 36 (not intending to dispose of it, as it's a rare May 1940-dated J-serial!), as well as paying for the enormous costs that will entail.

I meant MAS 36, sorry!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Johannes on 30-06-2010, 12:06:43
I meant MAS 36, sorry!

Ah, that would make more sense. Make sure it's actually a wartime or prewar make before buying! There's a huge difference and no model designation change between the MAS 36 rifles made before/during the war and those made after the war, and after the war many of the prewar ones were refurbished to the postwar standard.

Here's a hint: if it looks like the MAS 36 in virtually every movie and video game ever made on the Second World War (except, from what I've seen, World War II Online), it's the postwar type!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 30-06-2010, 21:06:05
My newest Restoration project. It is a 1935-1941 Royal Krad B sidecar for my restored 1940 BMW R12. The boat is a little rough but has the normal problem spots. I also got another excellent condition boat  and extra trunk lid in the deal.

(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x260/bmwr12/Royal%20Sidecar/DSC01507.jpg)
(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x260/bmwr12/Royal%20Sidecar/DSC01508.jpg)
(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x260/bmwr12/Royal%20Sidecar/DSC01495.jpg)
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(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x260/bmwr12/Royal%20Sidecar/DSC01502.jpg)
Shrapnel hit??

(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x260/bmwr12/Royal%20Sidecar/DSC01483.jpg)
Field added E-tool holder
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 30-06-2010, 21:06:48
I know, check the front sight, check the letter of the serial. I also noticed some have MAS 36 written in fancy letters while other its just stamped. different barrel and (smooth and with rings) I am prepared to go and buy a correct one next time i see one :p

Never seen a MAS 38 for sale to be honest, i wonder for how much they would go when Demil. Don't even know how to get a working one.

Edit:

Nice sidecar, most looks fixable with little more then a sandblaster a welder, some paint and a lot of patience. But how are you going to fix the front where the metal sheet rusted completely true. Cut it out and replace it? Looks like you will have to cut true the "square" in the front.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Oddball on 30-06-2010, 22:06:02
I don't know... that looks pretty rough, did the seller pull that from a swamp?  :-\
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 30-06-2010, 22:06:14
just a tad of rust on that
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 30-06-2010, 22:06:43
just a tad of rust on that
a bit of KABOOM and METAL is clean!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHgEnN2PFzo


Good luck bmwr12
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 01-07-2010, 01:07:20
I don't know... that looks pretty rough, did the seller pull that from a swamp?  :-\

It was used postwar and was outside for many years after that.  I broke it apart and started sand blasting today and it cleaned up nice so far. The trunk damage is very common as it is the low spot of the boat.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 01-07-2010, 03:07:24
(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x260/bmwr12/Royal%20Sidecar/DSC01493.jpg) Before
 (http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x260/bmwr12/Royal%20Sidecar/DSC01519.jpg) After
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Oddball on 01-07-2010, 03:07:24
Oh, that's nice. I've spent hours sanding and wirebrushing parts looking for serial numbers and ford script symbols on numerous jeep parts. It's exciting when you find something, especially hidden under all that rust and grit or matching numbers...
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 01-07-2010, 04:07:45
Oh, that's nice. I've spent hours sanding and wirebrushing parts looking for serial numbers and ford script symbols on numerous jeep parts. It's exciting when you find something, especially hidden under all that rust and grit or matching numbers...

It looks like BMW spent 3 seconds with a 36 grit disc.   ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Oddball on 01-07-2010, 05:07:24
Oh, that's nice. I've spent hours sanding and wirebrushing parts looking for serial numbers and ford script symbols on numerous jeep parts. It's exciting when you find something, especially hidden under all that rust and grit or matching numbers...

It looks like BMW spent 3 seconds with a 36 grit disc.   ;D
....I wass talking about the symbol... :P You can hardly see it in the before pic... and least it's legible now, yes he still has a lot to do, hehe.. ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Yustax on 01-07-2010, 05:07:03
Okay, this was revisited, dumb censor laws. Censuring its stupidity...

(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c49/Yustax/Weapons/1-3.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Johannes on 01-07-2010, 05:07:44
I know, check the front sight, check the letter of the serial. I also noticed some have MAS 36 written in fancy letters while other its just stamped. different barrel and (smooth and with rings) I am prepared to go and buy a correct one next time i see one :p

Never seen a MAS 38 for sale to be honest, i wonder for how much they would go when Demil. Don't even know how to get a working one.

http://www.collectorssource.com/category.asp?catid=2

They have a badly deactivated Vichy-made MAS 38 for $2,000. It's the only one I've seen for sale.

General guidelines for the MAS 36:

-Barrel with rings are the MAS 36/51 grenade-launching variety introduced in 1951, similar to the other postwar MAS 36 with a different designation, the MAS 36 LG48.

-MAS 36 serial numbers G (1937-1939), H (1939-April 1940, with one known example stamped May 1940), J (May 1940-June 1940, with one known out-of-sequence example stamped April 1940), through much of K (May-June 1940, production resumed in 1944, often with prewar parts) and the earliest of the L series were made between 1937 and June 1940. MAS always started arms numbering at serial F, but there are no known MAS 36 rifles with that serial number. The early MAS 36 CR39 carbines, of which very few were made in 1939-1940, did begin with the F numbering; some suspect the first batch of MAS 36's, a mythical F series that would have been produced between 1936 and early 1937, were all recalled in 1939 to be converted to the CR39 carbine. Other than a mythical F series, the rarest MAS 36 rifles are the L series made in June 1940 (the vast majority of L rifles are postwar) and the early J series with parts manufactured by Manufrance (like mine!). J rifles in general are very rare as for an unknown reason their production run was cut short; unlike the K series, which was resumed upon the liberation, J rifles are as far as I know exclusively May-June 1940.

-A few MAS 36 rifles were made during the Vichy period. These are characterized by not having any letter precede the serial number. Most exhibit functionality problems, and none seem to have been issued. These were likely test subjects. Despite hearsay, other than the differently numbered .22 trainer rifle series, I don't believe MAS manufactured any more general issue MAS 36 rifles between June 1940 and the liberation in 1944.

-Prewar rifles exhibit the following easily noticeable differences from the postwar types: front sights are different (CAREFUL: the frontal bands with open sights were modified several times during the war, so just because the front sights are leaf-eared does not mean it is a prewar rifle rather than one made after the liberation!), rear sights are different, metal finish was black paint, the wood was believed to be exclusively walnut (beech is common in postwar examples; some prewar rifles have been found with beech stocks, but I don't know if those were refurbished after the war...) and the place on the front of the rifle where the slings are hung (grenadière in French) are different (although I think that theoretically some prewars could have the type associated with the postwar, as not only was it the type found on the Berthier rifles but prototype MAS 40 semi-auto rifles used it).

-Concerning serial stamps: through the Q series, they were stamped in fancy script lettering. As it turned out, the later generation of French people had problems understanding this script, as factory handmade tags in the 1960s often mislabeled "K" as "R", "J" as "I", and "Q" as "2". Beginning with serial FG and through the FH and FJ series, the letters are the plain Roman letters. When older rifles were going to be refurbished from the mid-1950s on, they often had the newer, plain letters stamped over the faded cursive originals. This leads to the interesting anomaly where, unable to properly read the script, some of the already rare J series rifles were re-stamped with a Roman "I", so if you have a plain "I" stamped MAS 36, it was in fact a J series. The irony is that MAS never officially used "I" as a serial number in order for it to not be confused with "1". They also never used "O" to avoid mixing it with "0". Their fears of mixing letters with numbers were justified, as we see happened with the hand-written tags for Q!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 02-07-2010, 00:07:50
Oh, that's nice. I've spent hours sanding and wirebrushing parts looking for serial numbers and ford script symbols on numerous jeep parts. It's exciting when you find something, especially hidden under all that rust and grit or matching numbers...

It looks like BMW spent 3 seconds with a 36 grit disc.   ;D

I had only seen a tag like this one other time and thought it was only painted and lightly stamped Royal. I hit it with a brass wire brush just to try before I was going to drill it off. When I saw the corrosion coming off i went to a soft minimally abrasive pad as the tag is aluminum. I didn't just hit a home run, I hit a Grand Slam!!!!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Mayhemic.MAD on 02-07-2010, 19:07:53
A SVT40 Bayonet I think.
My father told me that when he was young they used it for daily work at the farm..
I´m not sure were my Grandfather got hold of this Bayonet as he was working as an Aircraft Service men on the Eastern Front during the War. Their Airfield got overrun in August 1944 in Czechoslovakia and he was in Soviet Prison Camp until 1949.

(http://www.mayhemic.net/images/militaria/tn/DSC00097.JPG) (http://www.mayhemic.net/images/militaria/DSC00097.JPG)

(http://www.mayhemic.net/images/militaria/tn/DSC00099.JPG) (http://www.mayhemic.net/images/militaria/DSC00099.JPG)

(http://www.mayhemic.net/images/militaria/tn/DSC00102.JPG) (http://www.mayhemic.net/images/militaria/DSC00102.JPG)


Another one in bad shape, not sure what it is.
(http://www.mayhemic.net/images/militaria/tn/DSC00103.JPG)

(http://www.mayhemic.net/images/militaria/tn/DSC00104.JPG)


My Grandfathers Hitler Youth Knife, he removed the swastika diamond so he could keep it and not get into trouble with the Americans.
(http://www.mayhemic.net/images/militaria/tn/DSC00106.JPG) (http://www.mayhemic.net/images/militaria/DSC00106.JPG)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Oddball on 02-07-2010, 19:07:42
Cool, I like relics that have history behind them. Too bad he altered the knife, as it takes away from the originality, but still interesting.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 10-07-2010, 05:07:28
Oh, that's nice. I've spent hours sanding and wirebrushing parts looking for serial numbers and ford script symbols on numerous jeep parts. It's exciting when you find something, especially hidden under all that rust and grit or matching numbers...

It looks like BMW spent 3 seconds with a 36 grit disc.   ;D

I had only seen a tag like this one other time and thought it was only painted and lightly stamped Royal. I hit it with a brass wire brush just to try before I was going to drill it off. When I saw the corrosion coming off i went to a soft minimally abrasive pad as the tag is aluminum. I didn't just hit a home run, I hit a Grand Slam!!!!



Frame is blasted more to follow.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 12-07-2010, 14:07:47
Well, yeah...

(http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/5786/m1a1thompsonflat.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: MaJ.P.Bouras on 12-07-2010, 14:07:26
Nice floor
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 12-07-2010, 14:07:08
We've got the same "bamboo" flooring in our game room
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 12-07-2010, 14:07:04
to be honest, so do we, just a bit more yellowish here.

Nice M1A1, how did you get it?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 12-07-2010, 14:07:05
I like my floor. :)

How did I get it?

I know a guy who knows a guy who has dire need for money and he sells these things...  :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 12-07-2010, 14:07:17
is it working? Full Auto? ifso your a very lucky man, if not well, still a nice piece of art to have on your wall to impress people.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 12-07-2010, 15:07:06
It's deactivated. I collect junk metal.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Rustysteel on 12-07-2010, 19:07:40
Didn't know where to post this but thought you guys might be interested

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFhhheOZxYI&feature=player_embedded#!

It's  a Stug that's been recovered from a swamp in Russia, apparently it fell through the ice during the winter when the germans were retreating. It's been well preserved and  you can still see insignia on the sides and rear.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 12-07-2010, 20:07:43
Didn't know where to post this but thought you guys might be interested

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFhhheOZxYI&feature=player_embedded#!

It's  a Stug that's been recovered from a swamp in Russia, apparently it fell through the ice during the winter when the germans were retreating. It's been well preserved and  you can still see insignia on the sides and rear.
my god....

Beautifull...
Lately, many russians have started searching for things like this...And with many archives unlocked by Russia, many hopes are to find many russian...AND german vehicles.

And the russian perfectly preserved vehicles like this! I mean  LOOK at that stug! It looks like...it only needs a lick of paint! And thats it!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 12-07-2010, 20:07:32
Didn't know where to post this but thought you guys might be interested

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFhhheOZxYI&feature=player_embedded#!

It's  a Stug that's been recovered from a swamp in Russia, apparently it fell through the ice during the winter when the germans were retreating. It's been well preserved and  you can still see insignia on the sides and rear.
my god....

Beautifull...
Lately, many russians have started searching for things like this...And with many archives unlocked by Russia, many hopes are to find many russian...AND german vehicles.

And the russian perfectly preserved vehicles like this! I mean  LOOK at that stug! It looks like...it only needs a lick of paint! And thats it!

The paint looks fine to me, still in his winter camouflage.

I think that you can have this tank up and running again in weeks. If it was covered in mud no air can get true it so very little rust.

I wonder tough, it was upside down when they pulled it and the hatches seemed closed, could there still be a crew in it? Where where the stugs escape hatches?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Rustysteel on 13-07-2010, 18:07:15
Some of the crew were found inside when it was recovered siben, along with personal items, equipment, maps, an mg42 and an MP40.

The Sad thing is that the guys that recovered this tank basicly just stripped everything of value inside and sold it off to collectors piece by piece before the russian government could stop them apparently. And then the Stug was just left to rust outdoors in the town near where it was recovered.

Anyway here's another Stug, this one was recovered from the Black sea, it had been aboard a transport resupplying german forces on the crimea when it got torpedoed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3vs7emG6V4

And after restoration

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh8Xwp4laKQ

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 13-07-2010, 18:07:25
Some of the crew were found inside when it was recovered siben, along with personal items, equipment, maps, an mg42 and an MP40.

The Sad thing is that the guys that recovered this tank basicly just stripped everything of value inside and sold it off to collectors piece by piece before the russian government could stop them apparently. And then the Stug was just left to rust outdoors in the town near where it was recovered.



Whats the current status of this STUG?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 13-07-2010, 18:07:50
Sold it as parts when they had a perfect one? Leaches is what they are and what they should be thrown into. You sell for parts when you have a wreck or part off, not when you recover a combat ready example....

Really, these people only thought about money and had no respect for history. Isn't that a crime without permission of the goverment?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Rustysteel on 13-07-2010, 19:07:41
Yeah have to agree, I dont think this is the norm in Russia alot of relic hunters have a great respect for history and the fallen, from both sides but unfortunately there is a significant minority that are just blatant oppurtunists.

How it looked in 2006 dont know about now ???

(http://warrelics.eu/forum/military_photos/germany-ww1-ww2-armour-artillery-vehicles/28815d1235753722-pskov-stug-how-now-stug..jpg)

As you can see it's condition is getting worse hope someone with a lot of cash swoops in and restores it.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 29-07-2010, 05:07:34
Well I've got a treat for you guys, scrounged a PS3 recharging cable and plugged it into my crappy SONY DSC-S500 camera
[img]http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/2607/variousphotos015.jpg[/im
[img width=700]http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/6660/variousphotos016.jpg[/img
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[img width=700]http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/3354/variousphotos019.jpg[/img
Notice the missing strap
[img width=700]http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/7955/variousphotos020.jpg[/img
Muderous spider on the interior
[img width=700]http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/666/variousphotos021.jpg[/img
Good 'ol days o ww1 eh?
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"With God for King and Country"
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[img width=700]http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/7469/variousphotos024.jpg[/img
[img width=700]http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/5791/variousphotos025.jpg[/img
[img width=700]http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/9158/variousphotos026.jpg[/img
If I remember correctly, it means the helmet is prussian
[img width=700]http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/8275/variousphotos027.jpg[/img
[img width=700]http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/6484/variousphotos028.jpg[/img
ALL HAIL THE PICKELHAUBE
[img width=700]http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/9485/variousphotos029.jpg[/img
Note that the Pickelhaube is secured by leather
[img width=700]http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/7061/variousphotos030.jpg[/img
My grandfathers U-2 helmet  ;)
[img width=700]http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/8451/variousphotos031.jpg[/img
U-2 photo taken by my grandpa over the ski trails at North Lake Tahoe, somewhere down there is our family cabin/condo
[img width=700]http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/5589/variousphotos033.jpg[/img
A close up of the ski trails
[img width=700]http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/3391/variousphotos034.jpg[/img
The airfield in Truckee valley, it still runs today
[img width=700]http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/3694/variousphotos035.jpg[/img
Another U-2 photo, Truckee valley
[img width=700]http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/5348/variousphotos036.jpg[/img
DEAR GOD, I thought they were all resized
Edit: 2, fixed
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 29-07-2010, 06:07:40
  That helmet has a pic of the holy hand grenade of Antioch!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 29-07-2010, 11:07:58
Please remove the pictures and reupload them in a smaller size, my computer is freaking out on this and they take ages to load, and i know there are a lot of people on this forum with much worse computers that will just freeze up when they hit this page.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Ciupita on 29-07-2010, 12:07:24
Please remove the pictures and reupload them in a smaller size, my computer is freaking out on this and they take ages to load, and i know there are a lot of people on this forum with much worse computers that will just freeze up when they hit this page.

yeah. I have a decent computer and fast internet, still takes ages to load.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Eat Uranium on 09-08-2010, 20:08:49
Just got back from my Grandfather's house (which by the way is absolutly packed full of intresting stuff).  Brought back with me a 1937 Pattern Entrenching Tool that belonged (apparently) to my Uncle.  I'm wishing I also brought back the pig sticker bayonet that was there too so I could attach it to the mine prodder end.  Written on the shaft is G.W.T. ^ 1945*

(http://a.imageshack.us/img7/9820/sany0061d.th.jpg) (http://img7.imageshack.us/i/sany0061d.jpg/)
(http://a.imageshack.us/img23/909/sany0063yg.th.jpg) (http://img23.imageshack.us/i/sany0063yg.jpg/)
(http://a.imageshack.us/img267/216/sany0064i.th.jpg) (http://img267.imageshack.us/i/sany0064i.jpg/)
(http://a.imageshack.us/img23/1958/sany0065j.th.jpg) (http://img23.imageshack.us/i/sany0065j.jpg/)

*Where ^ stands for the arrow that Identifys it as British Military.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 14-08-2010, 22:08:14
Sorry about the photos guys, I honestly forgot about the thread and was away for a bit, I just broke the links
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 16-08-2010, 19:08:23
Hi guys, i have to chance to buy myself a Perfect condition (like it seems brand new, more then 95% blueing left) matching numbers 1940 made 42 factory code and 1943 made BCD K98k. How much do you think it would be worth?

Also a 1945 made No1 Mk3 in perfect condition.

A collector i know is selling some of his stuff.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Oddball on 16-08-2010, 20:08:45
Not much over $800 USD. It sounds like it would be worth it, what is the asking price? How much rifling, and retouches/ refinishing or is it all original? I would get it. K98k's are generally not that expensive.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 18-08-2010, 17:08:06
He was asking 700 euro. But it seemed retouched since it had a late war stock and frontal visor cap. The blueing and stock where also shiny. I am looking for an untouched early war example. Can even be battered up a bit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuGzVuY_2DU

Anyway, I made this little video 2 weeks ago. I also saw an M16 halftrack driving by while screening the sky (those .50's can move fast) and a sherman Firefly going for a drive. Was to busy staring at those to film it though. The pictures of this event can be found in my 4 days of craziness tread. The small torrent is only 314mb and has over 1100 pictures taken at various museums/events.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Oddball on 18-08-2010, 17:08:56
Well, if it was retouched i'd skip it. Believe it or not, it's worth more in original condition even if is not in as good of shape...
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 22-08-2010, 16:08:31
Here is my small, but humble kit.

Swedish vadmel, havnt bought runes for it yet :)

rest of the jacket/trouser is inaccurate on color, and missing front pockets, but its used under my smock anyway.

Had erbsenmuster, but sold it and will rebuy some time.

all in very good quality, Ystraps, belt and helmet bought at SOF military (erbsenmuster aswell)

Swastika removed to respect people that dont like it (including myself), thus allowing my to use it at official airsoft events. :)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00103.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 22-08-2010, 16:08:13
that's just awesome :o

How much did it all cost?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 22-08-2010, 16:08:43
i saw a group of 4 guys on airsoft events. They brilliantly made (yes made) Fallschirmjaeger costumes, equipment and such. Weapons and all. 3 of them armed with MP40 and one with FG42

I heard the price tag for it, and i was shocked.

But the result was brilliant
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 22-08-2010, 16:08:18
stg = 430$
swedish jacket and trouser = 80$
smock = 110$

Ystraps and Belt.. dont remember


The fg42, is just insane expensive, the cheapest thing you can do, is make it your self if you have CNC machinery skills, and buy some essential parts ofcourse..

what i really want, is a G43, was thinking of buying a stock, and then get parts here and there, screw it all up, and make an airsoft of it :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 22-08-2010, 16:08:09
He got the FG42 custom built

It was BRILLIANTLY done. I swear, even vonmudra wouldnt see the diffrence.

But the price tag.............2500€

Edit=He also had a scope for it! A replica though, but he removed the manufactur sign, re-painted into the correct color, and added correct logo's

exept the swastika ofcourse
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 22-08-2010, 16:08:44
Do want.. :(
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Thorondor123 on 22-08-2010, 17:08:40
Bought this baby some time ago. It's a BlasTech DL-44 heavy blaster pistol with matching numbers. Got also few spare power cells. According to the markings this is a pre- Galactic Civil War weapon.

Can't wait to take it to the range tomorrow :)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/Thorondor123/DL-44.jpg)














What? ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 22-08-2010, 17:08:52
what i really want, is a G43, was thinking of buying a stock, and then get parts here and there, screw it all up, and make an airsoft of it :)

HA. HAHAHA. Oh, good luck. Theres an airsoft forum thats exclusively ww2 airsoft and they have some of the most brilliant designs for garands and other guns. Only a few have ever done it successdfully, and they are essentially geniuses when it comes to airsoft  :(

He got the FG42 custom built

It was BRILLIANTLY done. I swear, even vonmudra wouldnt see the diffrence.

But the price tag.............2500€

Edit=He also had a scope for it! A replica though, but he removed the manufactur sign, re-painted into the correct color, and added correct logo's

exept the swastika ofcourse

I've seen some pretty good ones that even gun dealers wouldn't be able to tell the difference :p


Edit for Thors Post, Ah pre-civil war? That means it doesn't have as much stopping power as post, but there is a mod you can get done for it to get the post war additional power

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 22-08-2010, 20:08:48
Well, i just happen to have attended two years of school with CNC machinery and other workbench thingy's, and repairing airsoft guns for some time now. so i just happens to know a bit how to get things done.

I shall prove your sarcasm wrong my good man, we norwegians are quiet crafty! ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 22-08-2010, 20:08:56
Well, i just happen to have attended two years of school with CNC machinery and other workbench thingy's, and repairing airsoft guns for some time now. so i just happens to know a bit how to get things done.

I shall prove your sarcasm wrong my good man, we norwegians are quiet crafty! ;D

Good luck  :(
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Eat Uranium on 24-08-2010, 13:08:46
Rather a tenous link to call this militaria, but it has a broad arrow on it so there.

It's a railway paraffin lantern with red and blue filters and side mounts.  Made by C Eastgate and Son Ltd of Birmingham in 1944.  Apparently also adopted by the military police to use as ilimunination for their temporary road signs (since it apparently can burn for 12 hours or more) and no doubt also used for other purposes by them.  Seen here behind the smaller lantern (http://a.imageshack.us/img299/5356/wm20mpnh8.jpg).

The whole lantern.
(http://a.imageshack.us/img837/1288/sany0066.th.jpg) (http://img837.imageshack.us/i/sany0066.jpg/)

Disasembled into its major parts (burner and reflector on the left, body in the centre and the filters and lid on the right).
(http://a.imageshack.us/img217/1589/sany0067h.th.jpg) (http://img217.imageshack.us/i/sany0067h.jpg/)

Close up of the maker's identifying mark.
(http://a.imageshack.us/img375/3043/sany0073g.th.jpg) (http://img375.imageshack.us/i/sany0073g.jpg/)

One day I might find some fuel for it and see if it still works.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 24-08-2010, 13:08:41
I should widen the topic a bit, it's basicly every thing military related, and everything war related. So a hammer used in a weapons factory in WW2 can be posted here. The hammer you bought last week and is in your shed now can't. Your military rifle is ok, even when modern, and so is your grandfathers old double barrel shotgun, but not that new sporting rifle you just bought.

Airsoft and paintball are a bit hard, and since i think there is already a tread for that i would prefer it if you take it there. If it is specificly WW2 then its ok i guess.

I hope you guys make sence of this.

And nice lamp, i like it.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Smiles on 24-08-2010, 13:08:38
Awsome! Those are the things i like :).

When i was in Poland they had a bell hanging dating 1914.

Also i found this thing, the spanish cross
(http://users.skynet.be/vonweyersberg/Awards/spanishcross.jpg)
ive taken a picture of it and there is a difference. (above is thus not my picture)
On the picture it is a badge for, as im told, an offcier. The cross is painted in blood red. Fake? Or a different badge? The rest looks exactly the same though it has small wrightings round the central swastika.
O, and its bronze not gold (looks bronze).

Further more its not something i bought, it hangs in the house we were staying in.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Heinrich (Mr.Uniwersum_GER) on 24-08-2010, 17:08:07
I play airsoft too and my kit looks a bit like Sn00xs  :)

(http://i34.tinypic.com/2a9t9mq.jpg)
(http://i35.tinypic.com/2i06ezc.jpg)

but the collors are looking incorrect at the photo :-\
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 24-08-2010, 17:08:58
good looking kit there, Just like my old one!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 24-08-2010, 18:08:56
Also you have a Bundeswehr load-carrying-system and Flecktarn "multi-purpose bags" :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Heinrich (Mr.Uniwersum_GER) on 24-08-2010, 18:08:24
jep I have the BW stuff because I dont want to buy WH ones I havent enougt money at the time  :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 25-08-2010, 01:08:43
I just found an picture of my old uniform aswell!

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00419.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Heinrich (Mr.Uniwersum_GER) on 25-08-2010, 17:08:48
Its looks nice
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 25-08-2010, 17:08:44
Yeah, and it was damn expensive aswell >.<
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 10-09-2010, 21:09:23
for those looking to collect flags, I found a sit that offers several historical flags, including some lesser-known Nazi flags. (though I think the SS one may just be for skinheads [black field with white runes], as I've never seen any historical footage with that flag, ever.)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Thorondor123 on 10-09-2010, 21:09:25
SS-Hausflagge?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 10-09-2010, 21:09:53
I don't know much about Nazi flags, I'm just saying i've never seen that one and I'm not sure if it was ever used historically, but mudra'll probably in any moment to clear it up.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 11-09-2010, 11:09:23
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schmidt-Rubin

The day i start my collection of service rifle's, i want one of these
Anyone who has some info on buying one of them?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 11-09-2010, 11:09:47
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schmidt-Rubin

The day i start my collection of service rifle's, i want one of these
Anyone who has some info on buying one of them?


I have a K31. Nice rifles although i don't like the trigger that much. On my rifle its a very long pull and there is almost no difference is pressure before the shot goes off, don't like that, the K98k is much better for me with its double trigger. anyone know how to change it on the K31, is it possible?

They are not that expensive here, and often they are in perfect condition with matching numbers.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 11-09-2010, 12:09:01
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schmidt-Rubin

The day i start my collection of service rifle's, i want one of these
Anyone who has some info on buying one of them?


I have a K31. Nice rifles although i don't like the trigger that much. On my rifle its a very long pull and there is almost no difference is pressure before the shot goes off, don't like that, the K98k is much better for me with its double trigger. anyone know how to change it on the K31, is it possible?

They are not that expensive here, and often they are in perfect condition with matching numbers.
Then we shall buy one in october at oostende  ;)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 11-09-2010, 12:09:06
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schmidt-Rubin

The day i start my collection of service rifle's, i want one of these
Anyone who has some info on buying one of them?


I have a K31. Nice rifles although i don't like the trigger that much. On my rifle its a very long pull and there is almost no difference is pressure before the shot goes off, don't like that, the K98k is much better for me with its double trigger. anyone know how to change it on the K31, is it possible?

They are not that expensive here, and often they are in perfect condition with matching numbers.
Then we shall buy one in october at oostende  ;)


Tss, how much money are you going to spend there? :p

I will shoot mine in 8 days, will see if i can make a video of it. Any specific things you guys want to see the rifle do?


I have a small question. I noticed that lately a lot of mint condition M1903 A3 are on the market here. I think a batch must have been released from storage. Do you think its worth buying one? Price was 400 IIRC. They started production mid WW2, but when did it stop? anyone know how to recognize a WW2 made one?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Knoffhoff on 11-09-2010, 21:09:18
Earlier today I stumbled over some imageshack links with pictures of some of my winter gear. Now I stumbled over this thread and thought I'd share them.

(http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/7314/sumpfparka.jpg)
(http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/3057/camojacketsplitter.jpg)
(http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/4167/resplitterparka.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 11-09-2010, 21:09:36
Why do you keep a male mannequin in your house?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 11-09-2010, 21:09:50
because he wants to?

I love the splinter!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Knoffhoff on 11-09-2010, 21:09:52
Why do you keep a male mannequin in your house?

For my purposes a male mannequin is what I need. If you want to do other stuff than show off ww2 uniforms you should of course go with something else, maybe a sheep mannequin is what would suit you best.  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 11-09-2010, 21:09:08
Are you insinuating I have sex with sheep?  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Knoffhoff on 11-09-2010, 22:09:04
Do you?
Just kidding let's stop the OT.

Here is another pic I have lying around.
Two mittens in different camouflage patterns but most likely belonging to each other.
One in reversed splinter the other in sumpftarn. On the sumpftarn one the thumb is also made reversed splinter material.

(http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/9636/wendehand.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 10-10-2010, 18:10:55
Whoop whoop, i have a new toy! What would it be?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 10-10-2010, 19:10:38
Whoop whoop, i have a new toy! What would it be?
MAS-36 FFUFUU YOU!


Went to a militaria fair thing in Oostende. Where i met siben btw! He is awesome btw. He helped to purchase a thing i will never regret=

I bought myself a Finnish mosin-nagant. It is a real beauty. The wood is in very good condition. The barrel and Bolt are not origenaly from the rifle(serial numbers do not match)
From what i can tell it is made in 1933. Serial number is 69806. I'll take photo's tomorow, so that anyone can identify for me what model it is
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 10-10-2010, 19:10:55
Hehe, well, bolts don't match like 95% of the military rifles so its not that big a deal (unless you are a pro collector)

Even rifles i saw at peoples houses, that where absolutely 100% original and in the state since Fritz dropped it in WW2 when he ran home with his tail between his legs often are not matching.

I sort of forgot what it exactly looked like, lol, but it's probably an:

http://mosinnagant.net/finland/M24-Rifle.asp
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 10-10-2010, 19:10:44
It is a M91/24 Civil guard Mosin nagant Issued to the finnish army (Due to a T stamp instead of S)

The side also has SA, wich means the finnish army used it.

Quote
All known m/24’s are stamped with the Civil Guard emblem of three fir sprigs over a large “S” contained within a shield while the Army issued rifles will have a “T”‘ in an inverted triangle emblem denoting manufacture by the Tikkakoski arsenal

All this for 200 euro, it is DAM worth it.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 10-10-2010, 20:10:55
200 euro for that??  AWESOME!  Get pics asap  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 10-10-2010, 20:10:11
200 euro for that??  AWESOME!  Get pics asap  ;D
Cheap pic

(http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/1108/pa110269.jpg)

Gonna get better one's tomorow

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 10-10-2010, 21:10:51
How much would you pay for an original K98k one of your shady military fairs? ;)
Deactivated of course ;)
Nice Mosin, btw.
The meeting between siben and theta kinda makes me want to organise an international FH2 fan meeting. :D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 10-10-2010, 21:10:51
Ooohhhh, purtttyyy :3


And I've always thought it would be awesome to set up a massive FH2 forumer meet xD
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 10-10-2010, 21:10:31
i shall appear as a TF2 spy

but then with a troll face mask
and open up with the line=
German bias

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 10-10-2010, 21:10:50
i shall appear as a TF2 spy

but then with a troll face mask
and open up with the line=
German bias



I've thought about that before actually, U.S. members would end up having to go to europe



i shall appear as a TF2 spy

but then with a troll face mask
and open up with the line=
German bias



 ;D
I would probably show up as a stormtrooper.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 10-10-2010, 21:10:35
I just love this little finnish rifle. It looks so   great!  :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Ciupita on 10-10-2010, 21:10:33
I just love this little finnish rifle. It looks so   great!  :)

M/27 Pystykorva i think.. can't see the sights.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 10-10-2010, 21:10:55
I just love this little finnish rifle. It looks so   great!  :)

M/27 Pystykorva i think.. can't see the sights.
Ill post some better pics tomorow

As for my rifle, as Heavy weapons guy called his minigun Sasha, As Leonard Lawrence in FMJ called his M14 Charlene

I shall brand my Finnish mosin= Noora ;D ;D

Now begins the search for an origenal Bajonet and gun sling (WICH some BASTARD STRIPPED FROM MY GUN 30 MINS BEFORE I BOUGHT IT)

Thats why it costed 200€ instead of 250
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 10-10-2010, 22:10:37
Awww, i am sorry to hear that  :-\

my MAS 36 came without a sling as well, i do have a matching numbers bayonet though, infact, it is completely matching  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 10-10-2010, 22:10:32
Awww, i am sorry to hear that  :-\

my MAS 36 came without a sling as well, i do have a matching numbers bayonet though, infact, it is completely matching  ;D
ye i forgot to tell you that. The Russian mosin nagant next to it, remeber it? the same guy stripped it aswel of its bajonet and sling
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 10-10-2010, 23:10:48
Aaah, so mean, why there? there where plenty of guys selling just bayonets.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 11-10-2010, 11:10:15
How much would you pay for an original K98k one of your shady military fairs? ;)
Deactivated of course ;)

Euhm, i only saw working ones, prices ranging from 250 to 600 this time, most where refurnished though. (reblued and new serial electropenciled on it)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Dnarag1M on 11-10-2010, 12:10:39
Awww, i am sorry to hear that  :-\

my MAS 36 came without a sling as well, i do have a matching numbers bayonet though, infact, it is completely matching  ;D
ye i forgot to tell you that. The Russian mosin nagant next to it, remeber it? the same guy stripped it aswel of its bajonet and sling

I would not be surprised if it's just a trader that puts them on the internet for sale, just hoping for people like you who bought a gun where he stripped it off creating artificial demand. Bitches!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 11-10-2010, 16:10:04
Awww, i am sorry to hear that  :-\

my MAS 36 came without a sling as well, i do have a matching numbers bayonet though, infact, it is completely matching  ;D
ye i forgot to tell you that. The Russian mosin nagant next to it, remeber it? the same guy stripped it aswel of its bajonet and sling

I would not be surprised if it's just a trader that puts them on the internet for sale, just hoping for people like you who bought a gun where he stripped it off creating artificial demand. Bitches!
Aye.

Their where some things the german guy selling it mentioned out though. (he was honest atleast)

The bolt (the thing you pull back to cock the gun, i dunno how it is called) is not origenal. In wich the bolt is difficult to pull back. We examined the bolt, and the guy who is the leader of our airsoft team, says it can be worked on a bit (Using a fine File) to remove a tiny bit off the bolt. It issent much, like half a mm. ATM it requires alot of force to pull it back (including smacking the bolt a bit)

However, he has a Mosin nagant aswel, a Russian one made in 1899. HIS bolt could be perfectly used on my nagant, as his bolt was slightly smaller then mine.

So either i use a tool and work a little bit on it, or i buy a matching bolt. I saw a Nagant bolt at the fair, and the girl asked 30 euro for it(i just remeberd it lol)

Also, the wooden thing on top of the gun, between the front iron sight and the rear iron sight (The rear wich you can use for long range) is Slightly loose aswel. But this can be easily fixed aswel.

I am however, not gonna do this at the moment. As i am not planning to fire it (Yet)
However the next time i am going to a fair, im gonna get myself a Russian Nagant, and use that one for firing in the future. Because this Finnish rifle STANDED out in the beginning. You saw that almost brand new Nagant from 1901 and this Finnish Nagant. It was like a troll face came on the finnish nagant and said to me=It took one-hundred russians with one of those each to kill one fin

It took one Fin with a rifle like me to kill one hundred of them

It really felt like that! Its such a beautifull rifle. I saw some nagants in my life, but this one is the most beautifull of them all. AND ITS MINE

ALL MINE
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 11-10-2010, 16:10:35

Euhm, i only saw working ones, prices ranging from 250 to 600 this time, most where refurnished though. (reblued and new serial electropenciled on it)
I would buy a working one any time, but German laws are the problem. They let me handle machine guns etc. in the army but I´m not allowed to posses live firearms. So only deactivated rifles are an option. I´ve found a shop selling original K98ks deactivated for around 200 bucks, but they´re all sold out and I don´t want to buy a Czech or another Eastern Bloc version of it.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 11-10-2010, 16:10:48
Are you kidding? i would LOVE a czech mauser, Belgian mauser, Argentine-belgian mauser, Yugoslavian mauser..



Anyway PHOTO TAIME

(http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/369/pa110001.jpg)
(http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/2157/pa110002.jpg)
(http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/6802/pa110003.jpg)
(http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/2580/pa110004.jpg)
(http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/955/pa110006.jpg)


My camera issent good enough to make a photo of the markings so im gonna desribe them

Top= (top to bottom)
T  (in traingle with tip downwards)
69806
F
1933

Left=7.62mm Russ   (an marking of something)   SA
Above the SA= 2 markings, and 1 IK
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Ciupita on 11-10-2010, 16:10:28
yes, it's M/27 Pystykorva.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 11-10-2010, 16:10:59
yes, it's M/27 Pystykorva.
Thanks!

(is that good?)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Ciupita on 11-10-2010, 16:10:22
yes, it's M/27 Pystykorva.
Thanks!

(is that good?)

Simo Häyhä used that rifle.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 11-10-2010, 17:10:36

Euhm, i only saw working ones, prices ranging from 250 to 600 this time, most where refurnished though. (reblued and new serial electropenciled on it)
I would buy a working one any time, but German laws are the problem. They let me handle machine guns etc. in the army but I´m not allowed to posses live firearms. So only deactivated rifles are an option. I´ve found a shop selling original K98ks deactivated for around 200 bucks, but they´re all sold out and I don´t want to buy a Czech or another Eastern Bloc version of it.

Can't you join a sport shooting club? Over here they are really strict as well but if you join a sport shooting club you can (after alot of stuff including 1 year trial, talking with the coppas etc.) own your own firearm, including a Kar98k.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 11-10-2010, 18:10:45
So, i went for a quite day to the beach to enjoy the last days of good weather before winter strikes and who do i find?  THeTA0123... Luckely i also found this nice little rifle so my day was nice and calm again  ;D

(http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/1304/p1050116h.jpg)
(http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/7571/p1050117.jpg)
(http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/9113/p1050118n.jpg)
(http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/9511/p1050119o.jpg)
Any info about these is welcome, or a link where i can find out what they mean.
(http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/1374/p1050121.jpg)
(http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/4463/p1050122.jpg)
(http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/8425/p1050123h.jpg)
(http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/7094/p1050124r.jpg)
(http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/2245/p1050125.jpg)
(http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/1564/p1050128u.jpg)
(http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/9395/p1050129.jpg)
(http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/6039/p1050130s.jpg)
(http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/7050/p1050131r.jpg)
(http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/9258/p1050133g.jpg)
Sights at 200m, minimum distance.
(http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/4517/p1050135q.jpg)
Sights set at 1000m
(http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/8283/p1050136td.jpg)
(http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/3429/p1050138q.jpg)
(http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/572/p1050139s.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 11-10-2010, 18:10:03
I bet Johannes knows, PM him.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 12-10-2010, 00:10:30
Pretty rifle, Siben!
If you know/or find out what it is please PM what kind of rifle it is!  :)

Would love to add that to the list of future bolt-actions
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 12-10-2010, 00:10:00
Its a Mas36, eric :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 12-10-2010, 20:10:49
Hey finnish comerades!

Is their a diffrence between de Bolts of the finnish mosin nagants?
I tried a russian Nagant bolt, and it fitted perfectly. So i am suspecting their is a diffrent model bolt on my M91/27
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Thorondor123 on 12-10-2010, 20:10:16
http://mosinnagant.net/
Go nuts.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 12-10-2010, 21:10:34
http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?191953-M91-27-question&p=1496298#post1496298
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Johannes on 14-10-2010, 07:10:52
So, i went for a quite day to the beach to enjoy the last days of good weather before winter strikes and who do i find?  THeTA0123... Luckely i also found this nice little rifle so my day was nice and calm again  ;D

Very beautiful G series example, and so (mis)fortunately dated! It is definitely one of the finest conditioned prewar/wartime type MAS 36 rifles I have ever seen.

Unfortunately, I don't know (and am not sure whether anybody knows, actually) what the various single letter stamps and such on the receiver mean. Some facts about MAS 36 rifle production remain elusive today (like some of the production worker random stamps on the stock). I only know that an "MF" stamp means that part was manufactured by Manufrance, a commercial arms company that was practically across the street from MAS; at the turn of 1940 they were commissioned for components due to the increasing production necessity. These are found on most of the K series and a handful of the J series.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 14-10-2010, 10:10:55
Thank you, i am looking for a way to hide the scratches though, don't really know how yet, might just use a permanent marker for it.

IRL they don't look as bad as on the pictures.

Can we see pictures of your MAS 36 one day?


Mauser 1924/30 .22 trainer. Serial 302 and matching numbers, even on the stock :D

Want to part with it?  Maybe a trade?

Just saw another one for sale, €1000, i bought mine for €150.

And no, not for sale yet.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 14-10-2010, 11:10:40
Oh yes, me and siben also saw something on the Militaria fair at oostende.

It is mounted on a tripod, and rare

A +1 who can guess what it is(Its a Machine gun i give ya that)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 14-10-2010, 12:10:41
And Mudra humps it on sight?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 14-10-2010, 13:10:30
Not as much as a lafette, but it was still a special tripod
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Johannes on 14-10-2010, 21:10:08
Thank you, i am looking for a way to hide the scratches though, don't really know how yet, might just use a permanent marker for it.

IRL they don't look as bad as on the pictures.

Can we see pictures of your MAS 36 one day?

Don't touch those scratches! Modifying an original in any way will tarnish its value and judging from the photographs alone yours is one of the finest conditioned examples I've seen. World War 2 rifles are supposed to have a few dents and scratches; they're seventy years old!

There's one poor quality photo lurking on these boards somewhere of me in Free French garb holding the MAS 36, but I'll probably take high quality photos of it eventually. Condition-wise mine doesn't appear to be nearly as nice as yours (though it's still on the upper end of very good condition given its age), but it is a mostly matching May 1940 early J-series rifle, which is the rarest of the MAS 36 production runs (cut short by the K series).
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 14-10-2010, 21:10:16
Oh yes, me and siben also saw something on the Militaria fair at oostende.

It is mounted on a tripod, and rare

A +1 who can guess what it is(Its a Machine gun i give ya that)

M1919A4 AA tripod?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 14-10-2010, 22:10:44
Oh yes, me and siben also saw something on the Militaria fair at oostende.

It is mounted on a tripod, and rare

A +1 who can guess what it is(Its a Machine gun i give ya that)

M1919A4 AA tripod?

Was there as well, even an A6 version, but i do not think it is what theta means. You mean what was on the table, next to that bunch of MG42's behind that perfectly restored Grayhound right?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 14-10-2010, 23:10:09
Oh yes, me and siben also saw something on the Militaria fair at oostende.

It is mounted on a tripod, and rare

A +1 who can guess what it is(Its a Machine gun i give ya that)

M1919A4 AA tripod?

Was there as well, even an A6 version, but i do not think it is what theta means. You mean what was on the table, next to that bunch of MG42's behind that perfectly restored Grayhound right?
Yep.

It was a Czech ZB-53, the Origenal BESA MG. The tripod is special appearntly, allowing you to raise it and such, a bit like a lafette

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/67/7,92-%D0%BC%D0%BC_%D1%8E%D0%B3%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B2%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D0%BF%D1%83%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BC%D0%B5%D1%82_%D1%81%D0%B8%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BC%D1%8B_%D0%92._%D0%A5%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%B0_%D0%BE%D0%B1%D1%80._1938-40_%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%B2.jpg
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 15-10-2010, 00:10:07
Thank you, i am looking for a way to hide the scratches though, don't really know how yet, might just use a permanent marker for it.

IRL they don't look as bad as on the pictures.

Can we see pictures of your MAS 36 one day?

Don't touch those scratches! Modifying an original in any way will tarnish its value and judging from the photographs alone yours is one of the finest conditioned examples I've seen. World War 2 rifles are supposed to have a few dents and scratches; they're seventy years old!

There's one poor quality photo lurking on these boards somewhere of me in Free French garb holding the MAS 36, but I'll probably take high quality photos of it eventually. Condition-wise mine doesn't appear to be nearly as nice as yours (though it's still on the upper end of very good condition given its age), but it is a mostly matching May 1940 early J-series rifle, which is the rarest of the MAS 36 production runs (cut short by the K series).

Ok, i will leave it then i guess, now my search for ammunition begins, it will be a pain to get bullets for this rifle, just like it is a pain to find them for my other rifles. Why do they always want to sell you large ammunition boxes of thousands of bullets and not just a few hundreds. And why do 19 out of 20 shops have no high calibre bullets at all?

Also, yes, September 39, special date, just like yours, May 40 is special as well. Mine really is like how it left the factory, barely used all original and completely numbers matching. The wood still feels rough and no spots on it yet by greasy fingers near the trigger. I also paid twice as much as you. Don't think i paid to much though.

And get high quality pics so i can compare :p
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 15-10-2010, 01:10:35
I got 2 new scores this week. I got another original Krad B boat for my BMW R12 and a nice mismmatched Vet Bring Back SVT40.

(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x260/bmwr12/5075460835_251662a9f5_o.jpg)
(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x260/bmwr12/pix462201111.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 15-10-2010, 01:10:11
I hate you  :(
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 15-10-2010, 12:10:41
What are you going to do with that boat? I am fairly certain that you already have a complete very original R12. Or you going to make a twin?  :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 15-10-2010, 21:10:14
What are you going to do with that boat? I am fairly certain that you already have a complete very original R12. Or you going to make a twin?  :P

It is always good to have extra parts. Original Krad B boats are very rare in any condition. I got this thing for next to nothing and was able to drive 2.5 hours round trip to get it. I was really buying it for the trunk cover and hinges. I ended up getting a extra trunk lid from the guy I purchased my Royal sidecar from on the same day, so now I have the parts to make 2 good original boats. I have the other one blasted and ready to have the sheetmetal repaired. I will probably repair the new boat then sell it. Then I can put the money towards the Opel Blitz or BMW R75 Rig I want.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 15-10-2010, 21:10:55
Opel Blitz? Thats a nice goal, never seen one of those actually, always replacement trucks who sort of fit in the image.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 16-10-2010, 01:10:53
They are pretty rare especially in the states, maybe 6-10 in private hands.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 16-10-2010, 01:10:58
my father had one 20 years ago
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 16-10-2010, 01:10:01
My reenactment group has 5 1941 Ford 3ton trucks,its time for an Opel.The Ford is basically the easiest German Truck to get in the states. The Germans had lots of the Ford V3000 though.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 16-10-2010, 13:10:52
Yep, it's always those Ford trucks I see :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 20-10-2010, 17:10:31
Got myself an original carton box containing 11 out of 25 pistol bullets, intended for suomi submachinegun. No idea of the exact date, but the person I got it from said it belonged to his grandfather who fought in both winter and continuation wars.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 20-10-2010, 18:10:20
Interesting to be honest, plz post pictures when possible, i have never seen the bullets that go into an suomi to be honest.

Normally a date has to be stamped in the back of the bullets, or at least on the box. The Germans did it, do not know for sure about other nations on small bullets.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 20-10-2010, 18:10:03
Yes, I will provide pictures asap. Box's ink text have been wading off in the course of time so it is at some bits very hard to pick out what it says. But the box is still authentic from the war times, according to my mate at work from whom I got it from. Also, the bullets do have some numbers underneath but they are not production year numbers, I think they are like production batch numbers. Will investigate and provide pics asap. :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Kading on 20-10-2010, 23:10:20
Found immediate postwar Italian Army tunics made from the wartime Italian camo pattern. Gonna make them into FJ helmet covers.

Jelly?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sheikyerbouti on 21-10-2010, 01:10:40
My reenactment group has 5 1941 Ford 3ton trucks,its time for an Opel.The Ford is basically the easiest German Truck to get in the states. The Germans had lots of the Ford V3000 though.

 There's one Opel 1,5 tonner for sale in Ontario at the moment, with what looks like a staff compartment so it might not fit your group's wishes. ( I assume you want the canvas-topped, troop transport variety)

 do you guys ever go on farm hunts? up here alot of ex-mil vehicles were pressed into civvy hands and they can be found in the strangest places (mostly near logging sites, or on praire farms). 

The next few years will be a gold mine for vehicle acquisitions as their owners are fast becoming too old and for the most part, their kids won't have anything to do with them anyways. (i have my eyes on a Dragon-wagon that a fellow says he might part with in a few years, fingers crossed for 4x4 extreme-ness)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 21-10-2010, 01:10:59
Found immediate postwar Italian Army tunics made from the wartime Italian camo pattern. Gonna make them into FJ helmet covers.

Jelly?

you're...going to destroy a historic item?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 21-10-2010, 01:10:52
My reenactment group has 5 1941 Ford 3ton trucks,its time for an Opel.The Ford is basically the easiest German Truck to get in the states. The Germans had lots of the Ford V3000 though.

 There's one Opel 1,5 tonner for sale in Ontario at the moment, with what looks like a staff compartment so it might not fit your group's wishes. ( I assume you want the canvas-topped, troop transport variety)

 do you guys ever go on farm hunts? up here alot of ex-mil vehicles were pressed into civvy hands and they can be found in the strangest places (mostly near logging sites, or on praire farms).  

The next few years will be a gold mine for vehicle acquisitions as their owners are fast becoming too old and for the most part, their kids won't have anything to do with them anyways. (i have my eyes on a Dragon-wagon that a fellow says he might part with in a few years, fingers crossed for 4x4 extreme-ness)

if its a hosue looking box with a door on the back or the side, or both.. its either a FunK blitz or a medical blitz of some kind.. most likely a FunK blitz..

could ofcourse be something more ;)

Opel Blitz Funk for west/eastfront command vehicle!

I remember having this in a 1/35 scale model

(http://www.dioramas.nl/New%20Design/images/Models/OpelBlitzFunk12.jpg)
(http://www.dioramas.nl/New%20Design/images/Models/OpelBlitzFunk11.jpg)
(http://www.dioramas.nl/New%20Design/images/Models/OpelBlitzFunk03.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Kading on 21-10-2010, 02:10:48
Found immediate postwar Italian Army tunics made from the wartime Italian camo pattern. Gonna make them into FJ helmet covers.

Jelly?

you're...going to destroy a historic item?

Yep, and I'm turning it into something that will get a lot more use.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 21-10-2010, 02:10:31
I could never bring myself to destroy historical items, honestly.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 21-10-2010, 02:10:18
I was looking at an Opel Blitz Like that. It has different sides but a similar interior. The one I know of needs some motor work but it is a wood body and has original ordnance tan paint on it. I was considering buying it I am just waiting on 1 thing to sell and i can then try to buy it.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Kading on 21-10-2010, 02:10:49
I could never bring myself to destroy historical items, honestly.

Ok, when I said "immediate postwar" I goofed a little. They are slightly different blob pattern but the exact same colors. Much newer than should make you feel bad.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 21-10-2010, 02:10:10
As amateur historians here, we all should preserve as many historical relics as possible.  Some of my personal collection I plan on renting out to a local museum.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 21-10-2010, 03:10:52
I could never bring myself to destroy historical items, honestly.

Ok, when I said "immediate postwar" I goofed a little. They are slightly different blob pattern but the exact same colors. Much newer than should make you feel bad.

Ah, ok. I'm fine with that
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Oddball on 21-10-2010, 04:10:44
I was looking at an Opel Blitz Like that. It has different sides but a similar interior. The one I know of needs some motor work but it is a wood body and has original ordnance tan paint on it. I was considering buying it I am just waiting on 1 thing to sell and i can then try to buy it.

I'm sure your expecting to have to put some work into a project if you find one, right? Here are 1, well so I hear 2, for sale in Germany, condition isn't bad but would need restoration.... here's a quote from the seller...

"There are actually 2 identic Opel trucks in this deal. One is missing the engine, the other is missing the truck bed... It would be possible to build one correct truck out of these parts and have tons of spares left... The complete prize for the package would be arounf 27.000 Euros..." 

Link: http://www.g503.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=691830#691830



Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sheikyerbouti on 21-10-2010, 04:10:54
I was looking at an Opel Blitz Like that. It has different sides but a similar interior. The one I know of needs some motor work but it is a wood body and has original ordnance tan paint on it. I was considering buying it I am just waiting on 1 thing to sell and i can then try to buy it.

 Is this the one @ willysacres http://www.willysacres.com/opel%20blitz.htm (http://www.willysacres.com/opel%20blitz.htm)

 It looks nice to me but I can't quite figure out what purpose it was fielded for (hence my assumption it was for Staff),
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 21-10-2010, 04:10:10
yes that one, it needs motor work and a few other things. It was a supposed LW crash truck.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sheikyerbouti on 21-10-2010, 04:10:41
 Would you guys do a ground up resto on it, or is it the kind of piece that would get re-purposed?

 If it only needs engine work, I can't imagine it being too difficult to get back into shape. Are they asking a fair price in your opinion, or is it one of those "must haves"?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 21-10-2010, 04:10:41
I would fix the motor and outside and get the few minor pieces missing.  I would use it as our units Feldgendarmerie truck. It looks like you could hold 8 troops or so in it.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sheikyerbouti on 21-10-2010, 05:10:04
With the storage as it is, it would make a real nifty troop mover/log. truck. (provided they can still safely tow a trailer)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 21-10-2010, 06:10:27
With the storage as it is, it would make a real nifty troop mover/log. truck. (provided they can still safely tow a trailer)


I could store my reenacting gear and stuff in there, it would be nice to sleep in there instead of a zelt at an event.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sheikyerbouti on 21-10-2010, 06:10:27
 Put a radio antenna on it and presto! Rad Hooch, the warmest spot for miles
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Kading on 21-10-2010, 06:10:19
As amateur historians here, we all should preserve as many historical relics as possible.  Some of my personal collection I plan on renting out to a local museum.

Don't be such a nerd. This ugly jacket would have rotted on the rack in that surplus store for another decade before somebody bought it in the bargain bin and used strips of it to camo their helmets in a much less historic way with no appreciation for what it used to be.

Beyond that, you can't save everything. You just can't. But don't worry, you can get a reproduction of anything you can get accurate specs for. And 9 out of 10 times there is a few examples of what you are looking for still out there.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: luftwaffe.be on 31-10-2010, 18:10:39
not strickly militaria, but I had some nice findings in a nearby forrest a few weeks ago

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/John1987/DSC00840.jpg)

The calibre is between 12 and 13mm (So I assume it's a .50cal ?)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/John1987/DSC00841.jpg)

Could this be from an aircraft ? It's seems to be the only logical explanation. the rounds where found approx 20 m from apart in a straight line. I think I was digging out a 4th one, but my mother wanted to get home(  I dumped her near a local pub, but apparently they went on a holiday that week). A .50 for killing rabbits seems a bit excessive :P

From what I can read, the bottom states  F     N    547. Can any of you weapon goodoo's perhaps help me with the conformation of what this could have possible been ?

thanks, Lufty
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 31-10-2010, 18:10:25
Could be .50 but the 2 left ones look like blanks.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Oddball on 31-10-2010, 19:10:56
What's the gold coin? About the rounds, are the tips still on the left 2? Cause I don't think they're armour piecing rounds, possibly incendiary or tracers... F N 547 isn't ringing a bell either...(Could it be FA?) - i'd also say it'd be an allied round. If it's 541, it could be from Possibly Tula Cartridge Works, Tula, USSR.. but that wouldn't make any sense. Although... FN would possibly mean..Fabrique Nationale d'Armes de Guerre (FN), Herstal, Belgium.

B.T.W; What kind of metal detector do you have?

Siben, if they were .50 cals, the one on the right looks like a blank, to me at least.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 31-10-2010, 20:10:53
That mysterious 'gold' coin is 50 eurocents.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 31-10-2010, 20:10:20
I made some quick reference pics out of my own collection.

From left to right.
Fired blank, unfired blank, unfired blank .30-06, unfired 7,92x57 JS (8mm mauser)
(http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/6898/p1050147v.jpg)

Left .50 API, unfired; .50 blank, fired; .50's found by my grand dad after air raid (all the way back to the left is an .55 Boys, 1939 made and unfired)
(http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/1224/p1050149j.jpg)

Size comparison vs 50 eurocent coin
(http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/440/p1050148g.jpg)

Make your own assumptions on these pictures, for me the 2 on the left are blanks, the one on the right can be real, but can also be a different type of blank. Also, compared to the same coin, they look smaller then .50
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: luftwaffe.be on 31-10-2010, 21:10:04
That mysterious 'gold' coin is 50 eurocents.

wrong wrong wrong.

It's 5 belgian franks minted in '85. I'm guessing it's lost between that and '95, since I've dug up others but this one is the worst battered. (5BEF = 12 €cent). But it has the identical size of a 50 cent piece, so it's also a good reference. You can see it's not 50 cents since it has a smooth edge vs  rigged .

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B.T.W; What kind of metal detector do you have?

Garrett ace



Also, I think I noticed rests of red paint, although it could be from corrosion since I think it's gone after cleaning.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 31-10-2010, 21:10:14
The pic was so bad I actually thought it had the ridges  :-\
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: luftwaffe.be on 31-10-2010, 21:10:11
The pic was so bad I actually thought it had the ridges  :-\

It's not the pic, it's the coin itself that is in such a bad shape
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: luftwaffe.be on 31-10-2010, 23:10:44
I think I have found my bullets. After looking at it trough a magnifying glass I thing the "7" is a scratch, so that makes it FA 54.It has the same orientation, so I believe it is this bullet

(http://www.oldammo.com/762c.jpg)

Also can confirm the rests of red paint.
http://www.oldammo.com/april05.htm

what sorts of guns uses this  ???
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 01-11-2010, 01:11:21
AG-3 (HK g3a3) thats one rifle that used it
HK417
HK21
M14


etc

7.62cal in general

a quite powerfull round indeed and its bascily the ammo for the cool big guns that are getting put out of service for those puny 5.56...
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Steel_Lion_FIN on 01-11-2010, 09:11:54
7.62cal in general

Not quite. You mean 7.62x51 Nato or .308 Win in general. Have you ever seen a Mosin-Nagant accept these rounds? Mosin nagant is 7.62x53R (or 54R, depends)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: luftwaffe.be on 01-11-2010, 18:11:07
when today to the same forest again, picking up the trail I used last time. this is the result of 2.5h of detecting
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/John1987/DSC00851.jpg)

I even have an unfired one now

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/John1987/DSC00852.jpg)

Does anybody know a good method for cleaning these ?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 01-11-2010, 18:11:28
Looks like all blanks to me, i think the army had a nice battle simulation shoot there. and looking at the calibre i would say somewhere between 1950 and 1980

Anyway, this is how you clean brass, copper coins, but should work for you as well. Is in dutch:

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Koper, brons en messing

De metalen koper, brons en messing zijn het moeilijkst te reinigen. Een te agressieve behandeling kan de munten onherstelbaar beschadigen. Men moet dus nog voorzichtiger te werk gaan dan bij de andere metalen. Laat een mooi egaal patina onaangetast. 

Vuil en oxidekorsten die aan het uiterlijk van de munt afbreuk doen, moeten wel verwijderd worden. Verschillende methoden zijn toe te passen. De tijdsduur van de behandeling is sterk afhankelijk van de hoeveelheid vuil. 

Probeer de methode eerst uit op een goedkoop muntje, voordat u een zeldzaam exemplaar behandelt. Het ergste vuil kan met een nagelborsteltje verwijderd worden.

Reiniging in een bad van soda en glycerine Leg de munten in een bad van 10 delen natriumhydroxide/huishoudsoda, 4 delen glycerine en 100 delen gedestilleerd water. Hierdoor verdwijnt de groene aanslag van de koperen munten en worden de oxidekorsten grotendeels opgelost. 
Is het noodzakelijk de munten nog verder schoon te maken, bedek ze dan met een pasta bestaande uit 8 delen dierlijke lijm of gelatine, 150 delen aluminium- of zinkpoeder, 4 delen glycerine en 10 delen heet gedestilleerd water. Als deze pasta 24 uur op het metaal heeft kunnen inwerken, worden de munten in heet water ondergedompeld. Hierdoor zal de pasta geheel oplossen. Herhaling van deze behandeling zal leiden tot volledige verwijdering van alle corrosielagen, zodat men het blanke metaal overhoudt; vaak is het oppervlak dan wel erg pukkelig en geschonden. Hierna goed spoelen of beter neutraliseren (zie de algemene regels).

Behandeling met citroenzuur
Laat de munten 30 minuten tot 1 uur, afhankelijk van de hoeveelheid vuil, weken in een bad citroenzuur. Voor koperen munten is dit een vrij agressieve methode: stel ze dus niet te lang bloot aan het zuur. Hierna neutraliseren en drogen. 

Behandeling met azijn of azijnzuur
Dompel de voorwerpen even onder in azijn of azijnzuur water, waaraan eventueel wat keukenzout toegevoegd kan worden. De duur van deze behandeling is afhankelijk van de hoeveelheid vuil. Na deze behandeling de munten neutraliseren en drogen. 

Behandeling met ammoniumcarbonaat
Vlekken op koperen munten kunt u verwijderen door ze enkele minuten te laten weken in een oplossing van ammoniumcarbonaat in water. Hierna goed borstelen, spoelen en drogen. De munten kunnen eventueel ook met de oplossing ingewreven worden. Na het spoelen moeten ze even opgewreven worden met een zachte linnen doek. 

Koken in sodawater
Vaak kan men het doel van de reiniging eenvoudig bereiken door de munten te laten koken in gedestilleerd water, waar wat huishoudsoda aan toegevoegd is. 

Behandeling met een zure vloeistof
Vlekken op koperen munten kunnen ook verwijderd worden door ze in te wrijven met karnemelk gemengd met keukenzout; alternatieven daarvoor zijn citroensap of zuurkoolsap en tafelbier. Hierna met heet water naspoelen en met een zachte doek opwrijven. 

Inwrijven met zuurvrije vaseline
Koperstukken die slechts licht vervuild zijn, bijvoorbeeld tussen de opschriften, kunt u schoonmaken door ze met zuurvrije vaseline in te wrijven. Laat enige tijd intrekken en veeg daarna met een schoon watje de vaseline met het vuil van de munten af Hierdoor blijft er een dun vetlaagje achter, dat het koper of brons nagenoeg van de lucht afsluit en oxidatie verhindert. Gereinigd koper blijft veel langer mooi als het direct na het neutraliseren en drogen met een in petroleum gedrenkt doekje wordt ingewreven. De petroleum kan eventueel vervangen worden door zuurvrije vaseline. Koper, brons en messing moeten niet in aanraking komen met ijzer, daar dit in vochtige lucht tot het ontstaan van moeilijk te verwijderen vlekken en verkleuringen kan leiden.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: luftwaffe.be on 01-11-2010, 18:11:53
I'll just dumb them in a bucket of vinegar and see what the result is. I better leave the unfired one out though ..
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 01-11-2010, 18:11:06
Well, the tip should be sealed with wax (one of the reasons shooting this type of blanc sucked so much, you whole rifle was full of wax) so as long as you dont damage that it should be fine. Primers (where the firing pin strikes) are strong, they don't just go off unless you give them a proper whack, so have no fear.

A rough way to clean them could also be using steel wool. (staalwol)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 03-11-2010, 14:11:21
Tomorow my Bolt action rifle "collection" will be expanded.

Ill have 3 rifles instead of one

Siben knows wich one im getting  ;)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: luftwaffe.be on 03-11-2010, 22:11:09
Ok got them sowhat clean now, i now can read the bottom. I had them soaked in 25 percent vinegar for about 24h. I have FN 56, FN 58 and FN 60, So I gues they are from around 1960.

I'll try to get the rust stains off with Ammonium carbonate or Sodium Carbonate depending on which I get first.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 03-11-2010, 22:11:51
Interesting, i got some with "F" "N" "62" on the back, but my dad got them in basic training in 1984, so i guess you can't really use that to date them properly. I do wonder what those numbers mean on the back exactly, to bad they did not have s system like the germans :/

Some more info that you might find interesting if you use an acid, you have to neutralize it once you stop cleanig, here is some info on that.
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Spoelen:

Na elke behandeling moeten de munten goed gespoeld worden. Dit is erg belangrijk. Worden de bij het reinigingsproces gebruikte stoffen als citroenzuur of natriumbisulfaat niet goed uit het metaal verwijderd, dan kan dit leiden tot verregaande aantasting van de munten. Wanneer de zuurresten die achtergebleven zijn op de munten, in aanraking komen met de zuurstof uit de buitenlucht, vindt er onder invloed van de vochtigheid namelijk een sterk versnelde oxidevorming plaats. Leg de munten in een bad met gedestilleerd water. Zij mogen niet op elkaar liggen en moeten regelmatig omgedraaid worden. Wanneer deze werkwijze niet gevolgd wordt, kunnen verkleuringen op de munten ontstaan. Een enkele keer water verversen is noodzakelijk, omdat anders het water verzuurt en de chemicaliën op de munten blijven inwerken. Na ongeveer dertig minuten is de behandeling voltooid. Spoelen is voldoende bij gouden en zilveren voorwerpen. Voor koperen andere onedele metalen is spoelen alleen vaak niet voldoende. De chemicaliën werken bij deze metalen tot diep in de munten door en zijn met alleen spoelen niet te verwijderen. De behandelde munten kunnen daarom beter geneutraliseerd worden.


Neutraliseren:

Neutraliseren is evenals spoelen een methode om de ingrijpende werking van chemicaliën stop te zetten. Het voordeel van neutralisatie is dat het direct de werking van een bepaalde stof opheft. Een gebruikt zuur wordt geneutraliseerd door middel van een loog en een loog door middel van een zuur. Dompel de met een zuur behandelde munt even onder in een bad met bijvoorbeeld natronloog. Hierna toch weer goed spoelen, want de munt kan afhankelijk van de sterkte van het loog en de duur van de onderdompeling basisch geworden zijn. Door middel van spoelen wordt het loogrestant verwijderd. Voor het neutraliseren van zuren (zoals citroenzuur of fosforzuur) zijn onder andere natronloog en huishoudsoda te gebruiken. Dit is een beduidend zwakker loog en kan dan ook alleen gebruikt worden als de munten met een zwakzure oplossing gereinigd zijn. Voor het neutraliseren van logen (zoals bijvoorbeeld natronloog) zijn onder andere citroenzuur en natriumbisulfaat te gebruiken.


Drogen:

Het drogen van de munten moet grondig gebeuren. Mede onder invloed van vochtigheid vindt oxidevorming plaats. Wanneer munten niet goed gedroogd zijn, hebben allerlei soorten verontreiniging die in de atmosfeer voorkomen, een grotere inwerking op het oppervlak, waardoor zij veel sneller oxideren. Het drogen kan gebeuren door de munten op een van gaatjes voorziene plaat op de radiator van de verwarming te leggen, nadat zij eerst met een zachte doek 'handdroog' gedept zijn. Een met nylon vliegengaas bespannen raamwerkje is ook goed te gebruiken. Effectiever is het gebruik van een haarföhn. Hiermee kunnen de munten goed en snel gedroogd worden.Zink

Net als ijzeren munten oxideren ook zinken munten buitengewoon snel. Het oorspronkelijke, zilverachtige uiterlijk wordt dan grauw en grijs. In tegenstelling tot de oxidatie bij ijzeren munten beschermt de oxidatie bij zinken stukken het voorwerp voor verdere aantasting. Zink is niet magnetisch. Zoiets als 'zinkpest' bestaat niet, er is slechts 'tinpest'. De witte aanslag op de munten is dus geen ziekte, maar slechts oxidatie. Daardoor ontstaan zinkroest, zinksulfide of zinkcarbonaat. De beste en gemakkelijkste methode om de grijs-witte zinkoxidatie te verwijderen is een behandeling met citroenzuur. Leg de munten 10 à 20 minuten in het zuur. De munten moeten gedurende deze tijd wel enige malen omgedraaid worden. Hierna weer neutraliseren, borstelen en drogen. Het is aan te bevelen de munten na deze behandeling in te vetten met vaseline of een andere vettige substantie, omdat anders weer snel verkleuringen optreden.

This is just info for when you are working with rare coins, i don't think you have to be this carefull with what you have, still, interesting.


On a side note, i went metal detecting too yesterday for about an hour, i found pieces of barbed wire, nails, beer bottle caps, strange lumps of some very rusted metal and a few lead pellets from hunting shotguns.

I should visit a battlefield one day :p

Nice one theta, i wonder how long you can keep up with the 1 rifle a week thing :p
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 03-11-2010, 23:11:44
Mosin Nagant M91/30s at a local store for $99 tp $250 on sale </3
Just got to wait for next year...
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Oddball on 04-11-2010, 00:11:03
siben, The ammo your dad used in basic training could of still been from the '60s if he used it in 1984. That's less that 20 years old, depending on your Military's budget, it is probable that they were using surplus ammo. Especially in Basic training where they don't necesarily need top of the line ammo. In matter of fact, you can still buy surplus Military ammo and it's still reliable.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 04-11-2010, 11:11:08
Was not talking about the manufacturing date, was talking about when those casings got there. We have at least a 20 year gap now, so not very accurate.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 06-11-2010, 00:11:02
I aquired myself 2 bolt action rifle's for my collection

A Swiss Schmidt-Rubin K31. Serial matched. The myth of the namecard is also true. This rifle belonged to one Edelmann Ernst. Its in very good condition. Payed 225 euro

A M91/30 Russian mosin-nagant. Serial matched. BRAND new! i dont even think it has been fired before! 160 euro! (he asked 200 origenally, but we bought 4 rifles and he gave a small discount)

gonna post pictures tomorow of the Schmidt-rubin K31. also with the namecard. I have the Mosin-nagant next week as i dint had a gunbag extra to transport that one home
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 06-11-2010, 02:11:36
  Schmidt-Rubin!  Nice!  A fella around here had one re-done in .308.  I wish I had scooped it up when I had the chance.  :(
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 06-11-2010, 09:11:21
Why rescope it?  :(

7.5x55R swiss is readily avaible! Both reproduced and surplus(wich are very very high quality)
And the pricing issent very high either!

Im very proud of these rifles! Look dam good!

My list however is still rather large=Lee enfield, mauser, MAS36, Berthier, Steyr-mannlicher, Carcano......

I plan to buy over a long time one of these types of rifle's each
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Johannes on 08-11-2010, 03:11:29
Why rescope it?  :(

7.5x55R swiss is readily avaible! Both reproduced and surplus(wich are very very high quality)
And the pricing issent very high either!

Im very proud of these rifles! Look dam good!

My list however is still rather large=Lee enfield, mauser, MAS36, Berthier, Steyr-mannlicher, Carcano......

I plan to buy over a long time one of these types of rifle's each

Remember, try to get a prewar MAS 36! Prewar ones were not only visually different from postwar makes, but were also made to a higher standard of quality (machining, etc.).
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 08-11-2010, 04:11:06
  I just don't want another odd cartridge hanging about....I only have .223, .308, 8mm and 7.62X39 for my rifles.  Well ok there is one stupid .30-06 but it is a rather rare Belgian baby mauser with a serial number in the 80's.  I just had to have that.  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Oddball on 08-11-2010, 04:11:22
 I just don't want another odd cartridge hanging about....I only have .223, .308, 8mm and 7.62X39 for my rifles.  Well ok there is one stupid .30-06 but it is a rather rare Belgian baby mauser with a serial number in the 80's.  I just had to have that.  ;D
.223 is actually a nice size and very affordable round... .308 has good stopping potential.. but only one .30-06?! Where is your Garand? Shame on you!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: GuinNess on 08-11-2010, 11:11:11
I just got my Colt 1911 .45ACP built in 1913, gonna post soon a picture of it ;)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 08-11-2010, 17:11:36
Why rescope it?  :(

7.5x55R swiss is readily avaible! Both reproduced and surplus(wich are very very high quality)
And the pricing issent very high either!

Im very proud of these rifles! Look dam good!

My list however is still rather large=Lee enfield, mauser, MAS36, Berthier, Steyr-mannlicher, Carcano......

I plan to buy over a long time one of these types of rifle's each

Remember, try to get a prewar MAS 36! Prewar ones were not only visually different from postwar makes, but were also made to a higher standard of quality (machining, etc.).
Siben has thaught me on getting the correct MAS 36 ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: GuinNess on 08-11-2010, 21:11:05
I just got my Colt 1911 .45ACP built in 1913, gonna post soon a picture of it ;)

(http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/3044/08112010020.jpg)

1) M1928 Thompson, original but deactivated
2) M1A1 Thompson (my favorite smg) also original but deactivated
3) Colt1911, my new baby :D
4) M1 Garand, build around 1945, didn't see much action but is fun to shoot, if one of you ever got the chance to get one of those, do it :)

I also got some other stuff, which I'll post maybe later on.....
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 08-11-2010, 21:11:55
Want to sell that M1928? ;)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 08-11-2010, 21:11:00
  You live in the USA?  If so how are those deactivated? Nice collection!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Oddball on 08-11-2010, 22:11:09
He probably doesn't have a class 3 license, or over $50k to blow on antique firearms...
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: GuinNess on 09-11-2010, 09:11:10
Want to sell that M1928? ;)

Ehm no sorry :P

  You live in the USA?  If so how are those deactivated? Nice collection!

No , I'm living in Luxembourg (Europe) but I bought the Thompsons in Belgium, normally you have to declare deactivated guns in Luxembourg but only few people do that.......to much paper traffic  ;)
In Belgium and Germany everbody over 18 can buy deac. guns without trouble.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 09-11-2010, 09:11:02
Netherlands too but the rules on deactivation are very strict.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: luftwaffe.be on 12-11-2010, 22:11:47
Went some more detecting today(same area again, this place is a goldmine !). Unfortunately only for an hour due to heavy rain. I have found something nice today.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/John1987/DSC00853.jpg)
 
as you can see found some more cartridges today. Also an odd thing that looks like some sort of door leveller, and old Belgian coin, and  most interesting ... what I believe to be a musket/flintlock pistol ball .

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/John1987/DSC00854.jpg)

it's my deepest found so far, had to make quite a hole for it, but it's a nice find, and looks in nice condition

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/John1987/DSC00856.jpg)

also I've been experimenting with these cartridges to see what is the best method. Results are mixed. Ive tried to find a 80 percent vinegar solution, or Citric acid pellets, but these are unfindable (and this while Citric acid is one of the most used additions of food products). I noticed that since a few years it's getting harder to find a reasonable concentration for chemicals (I assume it has to do with this "terror" bullshit), but surprisingly, you can get a 25% HCl solution just in the grocery store. Needless to say it works rather aggressive, but it's nice to see instant results and not to wait 72h in order to see little change.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/John1987/DSC00859.jpg)

I'm using these as an experiment for the case I find something valuable.   
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 13-11-2010, 00:11:26
Silly question, how deep can you detect? how deep did you find the musket ball?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: luftwaffe.be on 13-11-2010, 00:11:01
hard to tell. something like 30-35 cm maybe more maybe a bit less. It was the biggest hole I dug so far. My detector has 3 stands : 2,4 and 6+ inch. you can have a guess at about how deep a 6+ detection is by listening at the signal. If you then make a hole of about 10cm and press the detector in it and it gets stronger, then you're spot on.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 13-11-2010, 11:11:10
Cool finds, luftwaffe!
According to stories of my grandparents there was quite some action during WW2 in a nearby forrest where a large group of German soldiers surrendered. I can imagine that you could actually find quite a lot of stuff there. Also we have an army training ground right next to my village, which might have some hidden secrets, too.
I´d really like to go out and search the area here, but I don´t have a metal detector. So, now my question is, what kind of metal detector are you using and what do you usually pay for one?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: luftwaffe.be on 13-11-2010, 13:11:33
I have a garret ace 150. I got it for my birthday a few years ago, so I was not involved in the purchase,but I read on the net that it's a good quality for money value.

I would try ebay and see if you can find a cheap(er) second handed. If you think about getting a decent one for beginners, be prepared to pay 150-200€ though (you can also get very cheap chineese ones for 50€, but they appear to be rubbish  )
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Kading on 17-11-2010, 02:11:15
Christmas came early this year.

"What is it?" Read the front of the case.
(http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/8388/img0454up.jpg)

Leather is butter soft, but it's what's on the inside that counts...
(http://img816.imageshack.us/img816/7439/img0455u.jpg)

Got a Korean War era one to go with it and 1,000 feet of cable to connect them.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 17-11-2010, 02:11:17
Cool!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 19-11-2010, 06:11:15
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=201251936


My dad just gave me the go ahead to purchase this, as a christmas present for myself.


Fuck yer.  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Kading on 19-11-2010, 09:11:16
^^^
super jelly
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 19-11-2010, 11:11:57
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=201251936


My dad just gave me the go ahead to purchase this, as a christmas present for myself.


Fuck yer.  ;D

holy.. 550$ for a Jørgensen? i would have sold mine for 200
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 19-11-2010, 17:11:47
Dude, jorgensen's here usually sell for 1000+, this one was a steal because its a sporter that was fixed up by the owner.  I'm always surprised by the difference in prices between here and Europe.  :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 19-11-2010, 17:11:54
well, norwegian rifles tend to be common in norway, so why should it be expensive.. didnt the US army use it aswell?..  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 19-11-2010, 17:11:50
Yes, we did for 11 years as a standard rifle, and 15 in frontline service.  First bolt action rifle we ever adopted, then we through it away because the government was too lazy to spend a few bucks on each rifle to rechamber them to modern 30cal instead of the old .30-40 and include stripper clip lugs to the trapdoor, and invested the money in the springfield, which was arguably not as good of a rifle.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 24-11-2010, 22:11:08
Aquired myself a Russian Mosin nagant M91/30 of the year 1928. Serial matched. BRAND new! I dont think it was ever fired before.

My camera died, so i used my mobile phone
M91/30

(http://img802.imageshack.us/img802/7788/rifles022.jpg)
(http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/6621/rifles023.jpg)
(http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/3610/rifles024.jpg)
(http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/2637/rifles028.jpg)

Schmidt Rubin K31
(http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/456/rifles030.jpg)
(http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/4039/rifles032.jpg)
(http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/64/rifles033.jpg)
(http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/4775/rifles034.jpg)

Finnish M91/27
(http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/4025/rifles035.jpg)

All of them
(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/7910/rifles036.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 25-11-2010, 12:11:40
Congratz,

I am going to use all my charms and try to get that SVT-40 :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 25-11-2010, 12:11:22
Congratz,

I am going to use all my charms and try to get that SVT-40 :)
He was gonna fire with it first himself, but he'll sell it after that :)

I was amazed by the price he was gonna ask, forgot the exact number though
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 25-11-2010, 12:11:22
Congratz,

I am going to use all my charms and try to get that SVT-40 :)
He was gonna fire with it first himself, but he'll sell it after that :)

I was amazed by the price he was gonna ask, forgot the exact number though

was it a lot, or was it cheap, a licence for this weapon is hard to get so not many people will try to buy it. so i am thinking cheap.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 25-11-2010, 12:11:44
Congratz,

I am going to use all my charms and try to get that SVT-40 :)
He was gonna fire with it first himself, but he'll sell it after that :)

I was amazed by the price he was gonna ask, forgot the exact number though

was it a lot, or was it cheap, a licence for this weapon is hard to get so not many people will try to buy it. so i am thinking cheap.
He said= you would be amazed how cheap this can be, and when i said=500 euro? he said lower

Asking is always allowed mate :)
But i guarantee you, the SVT looks in perfect condition, everything tip top shape AND from 1941! Try to find a Soviet weapon from that era in that condition!

IMO it looked even better then this one=
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/ad/Svt40-1941.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Ciupita on 25-11-2010, 17:11:20
K31 wasn't Schmidt-Rubin

Quote
The often quoted but incorrect name of "Schmidt-Rubin" comes from two designers: Rudolf Schmidt, who designed the action for Switzerland's 1889 and 1896 rifles, and Lt. Col. Eduard Rubin, who designed the ammunition.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 25-11-2010, 17:11:05
K31 wasn't Schmidt-Rubin

Quote
The often quoted but incorrect name of "Schmidt-Rubin" comes from two designers: Rudolf Schmidt, who designed the action for Switzerland's 1889 and 1896 rifles, and Lt. Col. Eduard Rubin, who designed the ammunition.
The whole family of these rifles is named schmidt-rubin. The Swiss did not named it schmidt rubin yes, but the rifles themself are often called that way. Nobody knows a Model 1898 but add schmidt rubin and they know it

Rudolf schmidt made the straight pull system and eduard Rubin made the 7.5mmx51 swiss round
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 25-11-2010, 17:11:47
You must mean 7,5 x 55

And the rifle has the schmidt bolt system, and Rubin bullet, hence, Schmidt Rubin to 99% of the population.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 25-11-2010, 19:11:15
Congratz,

I am going to use all my charms and try to get that SVT-40 :)
He was gonna fire with it first himself, but he'll sell it after that :)

I was amazed by the price he was gonna ask, forgot the exact number though

was it a lot, or was it cheap, a licence for this weapon is hard to get so not many people will try to buy it. so i am thinking cheap.
He said= you would be amazed how cheap this can be, and when i said=500 euro? he said lower

Asking is always allowed mate :)
But i guarantee you, the SVT looks in perfect condition, everything tip top shape AND from 1941! Try to find a Soviet weapon from that era in that condition!

IMO it looked even better then this one=
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/ad/Svt40-1941.jpg)

That Svt 40 in the pic looks good because it was refinished after the war as were 99% of whats left of them. I did manage to get a  non refinished,non finn capture marked, non import marked Svt 40 a few months back.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 25-11-2010, 20:11:02
Yeah, i know, that is what i am fearing, but then again, if it is originally Russian done right after the war or so it aint that bad to me, as long as some idiot did not reblue it and electropenciled it to get matching serials it is cool to me.

I have seem may k98 lately that had this done to them, makes me sad, especially since they reblue all parts, including those that where not blued in the first place.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 25-11-2010, 20:11:45
Yeah, i know, that is what i am fearing, but then again, if it is originally Russian done right after the war or so it aint that bad to me, as long as some idiot did not reblue it and electropenciled it to get matching serials it is cool to me.

I have seem may k98 lately that had this done to them, makes me sad, especially since they reblue all parts, including those that where not blued in the first place.

Uusally all of the purple bolt carrier Svts are electro penciled. Original Svt Bolt carrier is in the white. I will post some pics of mine in a bit.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 25-11-2010, 20:11:39
I dont have a trained military eye sorry   the one i was holding just looked in great condition
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 25-11-2010, 22:11:43
Not the best pic but  you can see the unblued bolt handle with a rare SVT 38 magazine and the K43 is just for fun :) (http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x260/bmwr12/DSC01570.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 25-11-2010, 22:11:29
Nice stuff bmwr12
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 25-11-2010, 22:11:08
K43, i want, and if i get my A-OK next tuesday i will have a good and reliable source of income so that i can start looking for a nice one.

So, about the SVT-40, only the bolt is in bare metal? good to know, am doing some homework on the rifle at the moment, i want to know what i buy.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 25-11-2010, 22:11:24
Bought myself this today, waiting for it to arrive in the mail!

(http://www.mamut.net/homepages/Norway/1/18/handelsplass/tg492.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 26-11-2010, 00:11:31
K43, i want, and if i get my A-OK next tuesday i will have a good and reliable source of income so that i can start looking for a nice one.

So, about the SVT-40, only the bolt is in bare metal? good to know, am doing some homework on the rifle at the moment, i want to know what i buy.

With the SVT38/40 rifles,If it has electropenciled numbers and/or a plum colored bolt carrier it is a Postwar rework. I have seen some with no EP numbers, all will have a plum bolt carrier unless someone put a original on it afterwards.These would also be imported marked if they came into the USA.

If they have a bolt carrier in the white(not Blued) then you have either a original rifle(extremely rare) or a Finnish capture. A Finn capture should have a SA stamp in the area of the recievers serial number. My SVT does not have a import marked required on guns imported into USA after the GCA act of 1968 and it has no SA stamp. Almost all of these will have mismatched stamped numbers.These will usually cost 2 times more then a reworked gun.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 26-11-2010, 00:11:59
Nice stuff bmwr12


Thanks,I recently got a original ZF4 scope for the K43 just need to clean it up and get a mount.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 26-11-2010, 18:11:30
I´ve got a question about K98k´s maybe someone here of you "rifle pros" can answer. ;)
Around which time were those front sight hoods added to the rifles? I know that in FH2 the Africa K98ks don´t have one, while on all Normandy maps they are equipped with it. How common were they and is there any restriction on using them on early-war rifles?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 26-11-2010, 18:11:35
Around 1942/43 IIRC, but they still had a tendency to fall off.  They weren't a solid piece, they just clip on to the front sight.  So yes they could be put on early war rifles if the owner had one in 1944 or such, but many didn't care, and others did, and they lost them eventually :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 26-11-2010, 19:11:47
Thanks vm! So there´s no rule about them, right?
I´m currently looking for a good K98k (deactivated, unfortunately) and found one which doesn´t have a front sight hood. The shop also offers hoods but I´m not entirely sure if I should get one or not. But if it´s the same situation as with German uniforms (=no uniformity ^^) I don´t see a reason to actually buy a hood.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 26-11-2010, 19:11:05
Also, a special slit was cut to put the caps in, so you can't just put them on early war rifles if they where not adapted for them. Also they are on reasonably hard, you can't just pull them off, i need a hammer and a wooden block to take mine of, and some serious force and a second person to help to get it back on. If it where permanently attached you can not fully take the gun apart, so they are deliberately not solid i think.

EDIT: Show a picture of the front sight and i can tell you if the hood will fit or not.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 26-11-2010, 20:11:08
I had to find a good way to put my extremely expenive and impossible to find sight hood on my G98/40 rifle. I found snap ring pliers are the easiest way to get them on and off. Original hoods are pretty strong as long as they are in the slots properly. Most Repros are junk and do not have strong tension.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 26-11-2010, 21:11:04
Thanks for the answers, so far!
Here´s the link for the rifle: http://www.zib-militaria.de/Mauser-K98-Deko (http://www.zib-militaria.de/Mauser-K98-Deko) I´m not sure if these few photos are usefull, though...
It´s pretty difficult finding anything good on the German market. I´m not quite sure if these rifles are any good, too, since their parts seem to have mismatched numbers. On the other hands their no repros, but originals, and also they seem to have all necessary Waffenamt stamps.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 26-11-2010, 21:11:51
Mismatched numbers are fine, mine is mismatched too :P  It means it isn't as valuable, but its still fine :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 27-11-2010, 01:11:32
Can't really see if they can accept a front hood on those pictures, i am guessing if it is 43 or later it should be no problem, the others are a guess, some where adapted, others where not.

Price seems nice, a bit less then in Belgium to be honest, demils go for about 300 here last time i saw some.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 27-11-2010, 11:11:53
Ok, thanks alot for these answers. The rifles are available from early January on, so I guess I know what I´ll use my Christmas money for! :D
Also I guess that I´ll decided wether I´m buying a hood or not when I´ll have the rifles. I think that these rifles don´t have a cleaning rod, so I´d have to buy one, too. It seems like they come in two sizes (26cm or 31,5 cm), which one would be correct?
Also, leather slings are a must-buy, too, right?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 27-11-2010, 12:11:20
Yeah, i do not see a cleaning rod on the pictures, this is not that abnormal since many rifles come without cleaning rods over here.

IIRC the long ones are early war, the short ones late war, also has to do with what factory the rifle was made in. (don't take this as facts, this is what i have been told and i have not verified it yet)

I have seen several different types of manufacture aswell for the cleaning rods, some where even made from 2 seperate parts.

I can tell you though, my 43 made rifle has a long cleaning rod, but it effects my bayonet, i can not get it on properly with it, the last cm it just jams. It could be dirt in the hole in the bayonet where the cleaning rod goes in but i doubt it. My bayonet is 1936 made.

Also, i am thinking, any chance that the short one is for the K98k, and the long one for the GEW 98? i am just guessing here. It could very well be that they are both for the k98k and the GEW 98 has an even longer one.

Well, depends, original leather slings tend to be expensive, a lot more then a newly made one. also, i have the original sling on my rifle, and even though its not that stiff the surface shows cracking everywhere. It is also very worn down, you can really see the use on these, so it depends what you want with it, if you want to use the sling to cary the rifle and not just for show i would buy a newly made one, and not original. If it is for decoration of display a WW2 made one is advicable.

Slings are not really a must buy to be honest, i have correct slings for my rifles, but i rarely put them on to shoot for instance.

Do you have a bayonet? or thinking to get one? i can advice this. A rifle with a bayonet looks 200% more awesome!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 27-11-2010, 13:11:20
allso, the bayonet dosnt cost shit! :D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 27-11-2010, 13:11:52
allso, the bayonet dosnt cost shit! :D
I wish I could get it for a pile of shit, a nice looking bayonet + scabbard withmatching numbers + original leather frog is roughly 100 to 120 euros over here.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 27-11-2010, 13:11:43
Yes, and the leather often is in very poor condition.

But without that it only costs about 60 to 80 euro so a lot more affordable.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 27-11-2010, 14:11:28
i have 5 - 7 98k bayonets some with there protection metal thing, i dont have the leather frog though
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 27-11-2010, 14:11:35
I´d use the rifle for reenactment, one day. So it´s a mix of display and "using" it, as far as possible. So I guess a repro sling would be more usefull. I don´t want to destroy an used original by tearing it through mud or simply using it too often.
This (http://www.zib-militaria.de/epages/61431412.sf/de_DE/?ObjectPath=/Shops/61431412/Products/140006) would be the sling I´d go for. It seems to be an alright repro and ok for my uses.
About the bayonett: I really thought about getting one, but then again, a repro only for above reasons. This (http://www.zib-militaria.de/epages/61431412.sf/de_DE/?ObjectPath=/Shops/61431412/Products/190009) is the bayonett I´ll probably get. It´s currently not my no.1 priority, because I need some other stuff, as well, like a good canteen, ammo pouches and maybe a field spade, but I´m definately gonna get one.
And maybe vM knows more about the mysterious cleaning rod, once he´s awake and online ^^
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Johannes on 30-11-2010, 09:11:53
Around 1942/43 IIRC, but they still had a tendency to fall off.  They weren't a solid piece, they just clip on to the front sight.  So yes they could be put on early war rifles if the owner had one in 1944 or such, but many didn't care, and others did, and they lost them eventually :P

If I remember correctly, the clip-on hood was first ordained on paper in December 1939. Theoretically it is possible to have these sight-hooded as early as France 1940, but good luck finding photographic evidence of that; most factories didn't seem to start making the hoods until 1941, so yes, 1942/43 is when they really started to appear.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 30-11-2010, 23:11:06
Around 1942/43 IIRC, but they still had a tendency to fall off.  They weren't a solid piece, they just clip on to the front sight.  So yes they could be put on early war rifles if the owner had one in 1944 or such, but many didn't care, and others did, and they lost them eventually :P

If I remember correctly, the clip-on hood was first ordained on paper in December 1939. Theoretically it is possible to have these sight-hooded as early as France 1940, but good luck finding photographic evidence of that; most factories didn't seem to start making the hoods until 1941, so yes, 1942/43 is when they really started to appear.
I hear you are the MAS36 expert

please mes ami, tell me how to buy the correct MAS 36
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Yustax on 30-11-2010, 23:11:57
I hear you are the MAS36 expert. please mes ami, tell me how to buy the correct MAS 36

I find that rifle to be so fugly and bulky.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 30-11-2010, 23:11:03
I hear you are the MAS36 expert. please mes ami, tell me how to buy the correct MAS 36

I find that rifle to be so fugly and bulky.
and?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 30-11-2010, 23:11:44
How? Its tiny and a lot more narrow then the enfield and mauser. And it has an awesome look to it with the metal parts in the middle and unique curved bolthandle. It is anything but bulky.

And theta, if you want advice, TS, tomorow. will tell you all i know.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 30-11-2010, 23:11:09
How? Its tiny and a lot more narrow then the enfield and mauser. And it has an awesome look to it with the metal parts in the middle and unique curved bolthandle. It is anything but bulky.

And theta, if you want advice, TS, tomorow. will tell you all i know.
excellent
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Mayhemic.MAD on 02-12-2010, 19:12:15
The War Memories of Great-Grandfather. (the father of my father´s mother)

He served in the Great War in the "Kgl.Bayr. 2. Ulan-Rgt. König. Ansbach".

The "Ulan" was a cavalry men armed with a lance, sabre and pistol.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uhlan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uhlan)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kgl.Bayer._2.Ulanen_Regiment (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kgl.Bayer._2.Ulanen_Regiment)
In August 1914 the regiment saw action at the Battle of the Marne and in Flanders. It was subsequently transferred to the Eastern Front.

Note the 3 guys in the center. They have little cut-out photographs stickied on their faces.(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_reOLpLvjNYA/TPfAXOpivOI/AAAAAAAABb0/z9jT4xF2lEk/s800/DSC00079.JPG) (http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/RwBQTQUzCv56PPtwSpG5sQ?feat=embedwebsite)
Es lebe hoch das Regiment, das sich mit Stolz das 2. nennt.
( ~ Long live the regiment, that calls itself with pride the second)

(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_reOLpLvjNYA/TPfAUaAgq8I/AAAAAAAABbs/pZmtsbACGkk/s800/DSC00077.JPG) (http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/0DbO2YtT5lSYaYRiwvE37w?feat=embedwebsite)
Hoch zu Roß die Kavallerie
auf dem Posten spät und früh
mit der Lanze in der Hand
kämpfen wir für´s Vaterland!
(~ high on horse the cavalry
on their post all day
with the lance in hand
we fight for our fatherland)

We still have his saber hanging on a wall in the cellar, together with a staff for leading the music ensemble during their marches.
(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_reOLpLvjNYA/TPfARGo_caI/AAAAAAAABbg/h103OkvYps4/s800/DSC00278.JPG) (http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/QvyFb_XLV3Kz_TbsDk8k6g?feat=embedwebsite)

(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_reOLpLvjNYA/TPfATRwUWsI/AAAAAAAABbo/X9cMJ_TVHzs/s800/DSC00280.JPG) (http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/2SzMNEqcvqviwhf5aUoarQ?feat=embedwebsite)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 02-12-2010, 19:12:11
awesome stuff you have there, never seen anything like it (minus the sword). Don't let it get lost and take good care of it.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 02-12-2010, 19:12:48
awesome stuff you have there, never seen anything like it (minus the sword). Don't let it get lost and take good care of it.
aye here

Take good care of that sword!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 04-12-2010, 12:12:41
Went to the monthly militaria fair at waver. Here's my loot

1 Nagant M1895 from 1944 (200 euro)
1 cleaning rod for nagant(1 euro)
1 Screw driver for nagant (1 euro)
2 stripper clips for Mosin-nagant (2 euro)
5 7.5x55 Swiss deco rounds for scmidt rubin (5 euro)
1 FREAKING AWESOME SOVIET banana hat! (5 euro)
(http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/1453/ff003.jpg)
(http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/6170/ff004.jpg)

Saw some really beautifull rifles today. K98k, carcanos, one lebel, Berthier carbines, steyr mannlicher M95
I could have easily bought another rifle. But siben is right, i got collectors rage! I just had to, PAINFULLY say no! I so wanted that Berthier carbine and carcano rifle!

Also saw one PERFECT condition AWESOME MG15 BI-pod version! TRULY a beautifull piece! EXCELLENT condition and NOT de-mil! It was behind a cage for safety reasons, and only people with one of the highest permits could buy it. It was made semi-automatic though. 5000 euro
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 05-12-2010, 23:12:15
Orderd myself a holster for the nagant M1895. Will arrive in a week :)
(http://www.egun.de/market/uploaded/3029927_4cd6ba896932c.jpg)

also in order to reload the M1895 nagant=
Quote
1. Flip open the loading gate on the right side of the frame.
2. Unscrew the rod underneath the barrel till it comes loose, pull it forward, and then rotate the housing in front of the cylinder so that the rod lines up with the chamber next to the loading gate.
3. Use the rod to punch out the empty cartridge case.
4. Rotate the cylinder by hand to bring the next chamber in line and use the ejector rod again.
5. Repeat until all chambers are empty.
6. Swing the ejection rod back into position under the barrel, push the rod to the rear and screw it snugly into place.
7. Push seven fresh cartridges into the chambers, one by one, via the loading gate.
8. Close the loading gate.
9. Look up at the German infantry squad who have been watching you doing this.
10. Stick your head between your legs and kiss your ass dosvidanya


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J43EukqE4UI

I facepalm at leon nagant for INVENTING THIS JESUS CHRIST

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Johannes on 31-12-2010, 18:12:25
(http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/5733/1915mas.jpg)

(http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/5813/1937sidenomas.jpg)

Here are high quality photos of a tiny portion of my French Army collection. Everything here is original:

-1926 Adrian helmet (first one is a size D with 1915 infantry badge, second is a size C with 1937 infantry badge)

-1938 tunic (made in the Gironde, but the rest of the date stamp has faded; size 102M Pm; collar security flaps were removed, as was common on the field, and there are traces of red thread left on the collar, implying probable usage in the artillery)

-1938 "golf" trousers (dated 1940, unissued, size 88M; I have another one, also dated 1940 and probably unissued, in a very large 104M)

-puttees (French Army prewar standard issue)

-1919 ankle boots (usually issued to NCOs; dated 1939)

-1892/14 y-straps (proper prewar type; probably dated 1938, but only what seems to be the "8" remains of the year)

-1903/14 waist belt (dated 1934)

-1916 ammunition pouches (the lighter one is dated 1931)

-1935 canteen

-ANP 31 gas mask set (dated May 1940)

-MAS 36 (dated May 1940)

They rest upon a period French flag.

Not shown is the 1935 leather triangle (holding the y-straps on the back), the standard issue shirt (I only own a model 1941 Vichy French shirt), the underwear (I own two, one of which is dated October 1940), the 1893 backpack (mine is dated 1928), sidepacks, and a bunch of other equipment.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 31-12-2010, 18:12:11
*drools at the mas 36
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 31-12-2010, 18:12:35
Very nice, i was wondering if i could see some more pictures of your gas mask.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Johannes on 31-12-2010, 18:12:19
Ah, I will have to take them first. I'll get around to it, probably when I also get around to photographing some of the other equipment.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 31-12-2010, 20:12:50
i am throwing up that is so fuckin cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Where did you get all that stuff???  My dream is to have a full set of French gear.  So far I have an adrian helmet, a canteen and some binoculars, lol.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 01-01-2011, 21:01:42
So people wanted to see my most recent purchase, a Beretta M38A, so I posted a picture of it in IRC. I thought I'd post this temporary picture of it here too. I will at some point update my gallery of militaria items when I have the time. This will include new photos of all of the deactivated guns I own (complete with different magazines) and some misc items.

But for now, here is the Beretta:

(http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/1676/dsc0255za.jpg)

and here is the rushed pic of what I currently have hanging above my bed:

(http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/7920/dsc0255jp.jpg)

Like I said, when I got some time, I'll take tons of pics of all of them.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Oddball on 01-01-2011, 22:01:17
Nice, damn shame they are deactivated...
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Ciupita on 01-01-2011, 22:01:59
Nice, damn shame they are deactivated...

blame finnish gun laws... it's damn hard to get license for working SMG and even then they have to be semi-automatic.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 02-01-2011, 12:01:54
With a license wich is not difficult to get, it is semi-automatic here in belgium

Fully automatic is a whole diffrent story
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 02-01-2011, 13:01:17
in norway you must be an offcier of the army to be allowed automatic guns  :-\

sergeant and up
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 03-01-2011, 12:01:08
Guys i have a question

How much is a berthier carbine in good condition worth?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 15-01-2011, 14:01:11
I don't know theta.

I got myself a Mosin Nagant Model 1891/30 with a can of ammo yesterday. Should be fun.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 15-01-2011, 14:01:01
I don't know theta.

I got myself a Mosin Nagant Model 1891/30 with a can of ammo yesterday. Should be fun.
pics now
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Yustax on 15-01-2011, 14:01:48
Guys i have a question

How much is a berthier carbine in good condition worth?

Around 450-500 dollars.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=210389062

Here's one with polish markings:

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=209926400
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 15-01-2011, 15:01:28
Problem is Yustax, US prices and European prices are completely different. Sometimes they are a lot cheaper (like a nagant rifle for instance) while other times they are a lot more expensive (like an SVT 40)

Sometimes it makes sense the difference in prices (like for machine guns), but most of the times not.

On russian rifles the us is cheaper most of the time, but the semi auto's are a lot cheaper here.

And theta, maybe in the coming weeks, i have so much stuff to do IRL at the moment with my new job and such that going to my safe just to take pictures is a bit of a waste of time at the moment. But i will do it, have no fear.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: OlBloodnGuts on 15-01-2011, 17:01:43
Great stuff guys. I have a Browning M1919 .30 Cal MG ammo box from ww2 which I use to hold shotgun shells.
 It is very heavy.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Johannes on 15-01-2011, 17:01:05
i am throwing up that is so fuckin cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Where did you get all that stuff???  My dream is to have a full set of French gear.  So far I have an adrian helmet, a canteen and some binoculars, lol.

Ha ha, glad you liked it. I still have to get around to making images of more stuff, like the gas mask or my colonial officer summer uniform. I acquired a lot of it from eBay (be 100% sure you have done your research and know what you're looking at), from other collectors and from when I was last in Paris.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 15-01-2011, 19:01:47
Here you go, my rifle armoury taken with the camera in my phone. More detailed pics of the nagant are for a different time.

Trainer mauser (forgot the model) of wich only 1000 where made, K98k, nagant 91/30, K31, MAS 36, No4, No5
(http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/9389/imag0056ph.jpg)

(http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/1268/imag0057h.jpg)

Not much, but no need to have more then this.
(http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/2821/imag0055w.jpg)


And a picture with flash to see some colour in that wood.
(http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/461/imag0058a.jpg)


Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 15-01-2011, 19:01:03
Nice, i dint knew you had a K31 though
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 15-01-2011, 20:01:48
Sup fools, CPS needs some advice.  I come in here every once in a while asking about any good mas 36's seen for sale, but I realized that even if I bought one I wouldn't know what to do with it. So some questions!

1.  Where do I get blanks, how do I find the right type of blanks anyway, and how do I use them?

2. How do you maintain a gun and keep it clean?

3. In your own opinion, should I, a French resistance reanactor, get an Infield, a k98 or a Mas 36/Berthier etc...  VM said the Mas 36 which is in my opinion the coolest looking, but would that be hard to find blanks for?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 15-01-2011, 20:01:07
French resistance? I would go for Enfield/Sten, but if you want coolness a berthier would be a way to go, a mas 36 was a bit to rare in my opinion to have been used in the resistance in any numbers.

In Belgium i have trouble finding ammunition for my MAS 36 at all, let alone a rare French calibre like the 8mm lebel. If you want to find blanks easily, i can only advice an enfield/sten. Where to get them? your local gunstore. You use blanks like you use a real bullet. Just make sure you get the ones without any projectile, some have a wooden/rubber cap, only flies like 10 meter but if it hits you you will get a serious bruise.

Oil, a rag and armgrease, the only way to keep a gun clean. For the barrel you just buy a cleaning kit for the calibre and brush it till it shines. Also get a manual so you can do a field strip so you can also clean the inside a bit.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 16-01-2011, 06:01:46
or you could try getting those blue or red plastic blanks, they onyl make a hell of a lot of noise, and Nothing exept smoke gets out of the barrel, less lethal than the caps siben are talking about
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Wilhelm on 16-01-2011, 07:01:42
My dream is to own a Wz 29 rifle... :'(
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 16-01-2011, 07:01:14
Sup fools, CPS needs some advice.  I come in here every once in a while asking about any good mas 36's seen for sale, but I realized that even if I bought one I wouldn't know what to do with it. So some questions!

1.  Where do I get blanks, how do I find the right type of blanks anyway, and how do I use them?

2. How do you maintain a gun and keep it clean?

3. In your own opinion, should I, a French resistance reanactor, get an Infield, a k98 or a Mas 36/Berthier etc...  VM said the Mas 36 which is in my opinion the coolest looking, but would that be hard to find blanks for?
 


If you are in the USA Atlantic Wall Blanks has blanks for just about every military gun.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 16-01-2011, 11:01:18
My dream is to own a Wz 29 rifle... :'(
What country you from?



Same here, i so want a mauser, but not a german mauser. A czech, polish, belgian, Swedish... they far intrest me more then the german mausers
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 16-01-2011, 22:01:19
French resistance? I would go for Enfield/Sten, but if you want coolness a berthier would be a way to go, a mas 36 was a bit to rare in my opinion to have been used in the resistance in any numbers.



Are berthier blanks findable? i found MAS 36 blanks at least, thanks to bmwr12. I know so little about guns... like where would I even find a good WW2 acceptable Berthier?  ???
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Oddball on 16-01-2011, 22:01:26
French resistance? I would go for Enfield/Sten, but if you want coolness a berthier would be a way to go, a mas 36 was a bit to rare in my opinion to have been used in the resistance in any numbers.



Are berthier blanks findable? i found MAS 36 blanks at least, thanks to bmwr12. I know so little about guns... like where would I even find a good WW2 acceptable Berthier?  ???
You have so much to learn young one, I don't think we can teach you it all before our time here on earth is up...

...there isn't much that you can't buy on the Black Market...(http://serve.mysmiley.net/angel/angelic.gif) (http://www.mysmiley.net)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 16-01-2011, 23:01:50
black market?  what is this you speak of? My young ears can't comprehend!!!!!!!

though in all seriousness there is a guy at my school who once offered to sell me a box of live hand grenades.  I politely declined.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Oddball on 16-01-2011, 23:01:32
black market?  what is this you speak of? My young ears can't comprehend!!!!!!!

though in all seriousness there is a guy at my school who once offered to sell me a box of live hand grenades.  I politely declined.
He probably wasn't serious, haha. If he was; well as I said - you have so much to lean.  :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 16-01-2011, 23:01:03
and to spell because some older folks can learn in that  ;)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 16-01-2011, 23:01:09
Johannes, Siben, Oddball, other gun knowing people?  

Is this a good deal?  didn't look too hard yet don't have much time right now

http://www.gunsamerica.com/970155164/Guns/Rifles/MN-Misc-Rifles/French_MAS_36_7_5x54mm_Bolt_Action_Very_Nice_Hard_to_Fin.htm

(hooded scope = postwar?)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Oddball on 17-01-2011, 01:01:22
Johannes, Siben, Oddball, other gun knowing people?  

Is this a good deal?  didn't look too hard yet don't have much time right now

http://www.gunsamerica.com/970155164/Guns/Rifles/MN-Misc-Rifles/French_MAS_36_7_5x54mm_Bolt_Action_Very_Nice_Hard_to_Fin.htm

(hooded scope = postwar?)
I'd say it's a fair deal.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 17-01-2011, 06:01:11
French resistance? I would go for Enfield/Sten, but if you want coolness a berthier would be a way to go, a mas 36 was a bit to rare in my opinion to have been used in the resistance in any numbers.



Are berthier blanks findable? i found MAS 36 blanks at least, thanks to bmwr12. I know so little about guns... like where would I even find a good WW2 acceptable Berthier?  ???

What round does a berthier fire? I am sure AW can make it. Atlantic Wall is awesome I love the sound of my MP44 with their blanks, it sounds like it is live ammo...
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 17-01-2011, 16:01:01
8mm rounds, I think?

  And like Oddball said, i think the MAS 36 a good deal, now just need Siben or Johannes to tell me if its authenticity-acceptable!  And what a smexy gun  :D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 17-01-2011, 18:01:32
It looks like a post war rifle. Could be Pre-WW2 but it is definitely refurnished to post war specs. Also has post war sling.
Most post war rifles are in perfect condition since when they where taken out of active service they where prepared for long storage to be used as backup weapons in case of war. Witch never happened.

Cant tell you much about prices. In Belgium it's cheap, but for the us you might be paying to much.

Berthier comes in 8 x 50R and 7.5 x 54. Depends if it's WW1 or WW2 spec. (don't know that much about this rifle yet, don't take my word on it)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 17-01-2011, 18:01:50
What do you mean by post war specs, exactly?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 17-01-2011, 18:01:45
What do you mean by post war specs, exactly?
http://armesfrancaises.free.fr/FR%20MAS%2036.html

Here you can indentify Pre-war and post war Mas 36's. The prewar MAS are off the best quality


As for the Berthier rifle/carbine, conversion to the 7.5mmx54 french was underway, but did not happend due to the entry of the Mas 36. Only 40 000 Berthiers where converted to 7.5mmx54

In other words, almost all Berthiers are 8x56 Lebel. The 7.5x54 Berthiers are pretty rare and heavily sought after
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 17-01-2011, 18:01:57
To clearefy a bit on theta's link, you want as many type 1 things on your rifle as possible, sometimes the Model 2 can be pre war (for where you attach your belt, the front sighthood) but if it is anything else ===> post war.

Serials that where produces before the war ALWAYS start with the letters G, H, J, K and L but only up untill about 4600 IIRC. After that you are again post war.

The letters are also written in a fancy way, hence there is no I serial, to confusing with J

F serials mas 36 where made, but if you find one then you are holding a very very rare rifle in your hands.

But the person you need for French rifles is Johannes, he will tell you everything i don't know.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 17-01-2011, 19:01:24
(http://kittensmewmew.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/fuuuuuuuuu.jpg)

time to look for a berthier, thanks for the the help Siben.

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Johannes on 17-01-2011, 20:01:53
The 7.5 mm Berthier rifles go by the designation of mle 1907-15 M34. They have a design that, although a conversion of older Berthiers, is completely unique, and of which there were two variants (cavalry and infantry). This is a perfectly valid option for 1940, but they are very rare (only about 45,000 made), very expensive, and were more typical for fortress infantry in the Maginot Line (particularly in Metz) than for anything else.

Any standard issue Berthier or Lebel rifle that you can find is guaranteed valid for 1939-1945, as no further modifications were made to them after the war.

A proper prewar MAS 36 is not difficult to identify. I know I've posted the basic rules before. Pay attention to the frontal band, the curved bayonet lug, the un-hooded open-leaf frontal sight, the smooth rear sight, the front sling attachment, and the black stovepipe finish.

G, H, and J serials are exclusively from the 1937-1940 period, though like all series some were arsenal refurbished to the postwar standards after the war.

K rifles were made in late May to June 1940, L rifles were made in June 1940, and both were made following the liberation. They should generally be avoided for a 1940 portrayal.

Here's what I posted before: http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?topic=2609.msg143156#msg143156 (http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?topic=2609.msg143156#msg143156)

To clearefy a bit on theta's link, you want as many type 1 things on your rifle as possible, sometimes the Model 2 can be pre war (for where you attach your belt, the front sighthood) but if it is anything else ===> post war.

...

F serials mas 36 where made, but if you find one then you are holding a very very rare rifle in your hands.

It's a little more complicated than 2 models. That website is great for a side-by-side comparison of generalities, but I have to emphasize that, for example, there are at least four different types of open-leafed (no sight hood) frontal sight bands that precede the postwar hood type, only the first of which is undoubtedly proper for 1940.

The front sight hood is never proper before the liberation. After that, I don't know when it first saw service. All production models of the MAS 44 rifle have it, for example, although those didn't really enter service until 1946.

The sling attachment thing (grenadière in French) is a little more ambiguous. As far as can be confirmed, the Berthier types common to postwar MAS 36 rifles was not used until after the liberation. That being said, the MAS 40 rifle used it, so it was likely a modification that had been in the planning stages by 1940.

It is not known whether F serial MAS 36 rifles were ever made. No originals have been found. All the prewar MAS 36 CR39 rifles are, however, F series. It is theoretically possible they were conversions, but we'll likely never know. I have seen a proper all-original prewar MAS 36 with an F serial magazine floor plate, but those were interchangeable with the CR39.

I highly recommend the information on this page: http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?15790-MAS-Mle-1936-Survey-for-the-New-Forum (http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?15790-MAS-Mle-1936-Survey-for-the-New-Forum)

Remember, there were two basic types of French infantry squads in 1940, the 8 mm squads and the 7.5 mm squads. A squad wielding the 8 mm caliber used a mix of long rifle (Berthier or Lebel), carbine (Berthier carbine family or Lebel R35), and the Lebel 1886 M93 (in the hands of the grenadier). The 7.5 mm squads were all just given the MAS 36 (or the MAS 36 CR39) or the Berthier 1907-15 M34.

As for how common the MAS 36 was in the hands of the resistance, it was quite common. There are lots of photos of it being used alongside other rifles like the K98k. Remember, the Vichy government had been secretly stockpiling them until 1942, and when the Germans invaded the free zone not all of the depots were discovered, left to be found by the resistance in 1943 and 1944. This, alongside the fact that they were used by and captured from occupation troops, made them among the most common weapons in the hands of the F.F.I. In fact, the Vichyite 1er Régiment de France was completely armed with them when it joined the F.F.I.

These examples captured in metropolitan France were also reintegrated into standard French Army service in 1944.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 17-01-2011, 21:01:31


time to look for a berthier, thanks for the the help Siben.


Dont worry mate, i'm also getting myself a berthier  ;)

When the Zombie apocalypse comes, i wanna defend my home with a 8mm lebel round  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Johannes on 17-01-2011, 21:01:30
Just remember that if you get a Berthier, it will be hell trying to organize an accurate 1940-era squad if ever you plan on portraying 1940. ;)

6 Berthier long rifles
3 Berthier carbines
1 Lebel 1886 M93
(1 FM gunner and his #2 with only a pistol)

There isn't much leeway in there either, other than that sometimes the squad leader preferred the Berthier carbine instead of the long rifle, or that the FM gunner #2 was sometimes given a MAS 38 (thus instantly transforming him from the most lame squad member to the most awesome).

And remember: the three shot Berthier and the five shot Berthier variants were (unless you're a goumier in 1943) kept separate!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 17-01-2011, 21:01:07
I like the long rifle Berthiers better after lookin it up, i shall set my sights on one of those!

And I don't know if I'll ever be in a 1940 unit, snice I only do resistance.  Next step up for me will hopefully be Free French! (Almost all reenactments in Ohio are 1944 Normandy or Italy)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Johannes on 17-01-2011, 21:01:45
I like the long rifle Berthiers better after lookin it up, i shall set my sights on one of those!

And I don't know if I'll ever be in a 1940 unit, snice I only do resistance.  Next step up for me will hopefully be Free French! (Almost all reenactments in Ohio are 1944 Normandy or Italy)

Heh heh, Berthier long rifles were actually (surprisingly) rather rare in the Free French.

MAS 36's were common since they were the norm of the 13th DBLE which formed the most famous of the Free French units.

Berthier carbines were also common, especially in the service of artillerymen.

Lebel 1886 M93 rifles were widely seen among the forces from French Equatorial Africa that served under Leclerc in his Libyan campaign.

And of course, the Lee-Enfield SMLE.

For a Free French 1940-1943 portrayal, the most common weapons were the MAS 36, Lee-Enfield SMLE, Lebel 1886 M93, and the various Berthier carbines.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 17-01-2011, 21:01:31
Berthier carbines you say?  Well I shall go for that then!  Why was the long rifle so rare? I thought lots of colonial troops would have had it? 

And I just found an aunction for a carbine for under 100 dollas, maybe I shall check this out farther

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=212063090
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Johannes on 17-01-2011, 22:01:23
Berthier carbines you say?  Well I shall go for that then!  Why was the long rifle so rare? I thought lots of colonial troops would have had it? 

And I just found an aunction for a carbine for under 100 dollas, maybe I shall check this out farther

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=212063090

Just saw the "1944 Normandy or Italy" part. Sorry, remember that as the anal history-degreed (just graduated, yay!) person who taught a class for a year and a half entirely on the politics and military of France during the war (at UC Berkeley, an undergrad can do this with the sponsorship of a professor), I tend to be very strict with my terminology.

Remember that by mid-1943 the Free French as an independent organization didn't exist anymore, and the Vichy imperial forces (minus Indochina) had merged with the Free French to form a unity government, at which point the forces are just known again as the French Army. In the English-speaking world, it is common to continue calling these guys the "Free French," but that is very misleading. In the French-speaking world, it is common to call them the army of the liberation, which is less misleading, but also has no basis on wartime legality or popularity.

Berthier long rifles were common among the colonial forces, but the vast majority of the empire was in Vichy hands until late 1942. The Berthier and Lebel long rifles and carbines were by far the most common weapons used, for example, by the Allied Vichy forces during the Tunisian Campaign in 1942-1943. Those were not, however, Free French forces, who as mentioned previously did not use an abundance of Berthier long rifles.

When the Vichy and Free French forces merged coincided with when American Lend-Lease started to prominently re-equip the French forces, and the Berthier long rifles and MAS 36's were relegated primarily to sovereignty forces doing garrison work in the empire.

For Italy 1943-1944, the most common rifles were:

M1917 Enfield and M1903 Springfield: issued to the divisions comprising former Vichy forces.
Lee-Enfield SMLE and No. 4: remained in service within the Free French 1st Division
Berthier carbines (both 3-shot and 5-shot): issued to goumiers, who were primarily the responsibility of French resources rather than American Lend-Lease
M1 Carbines: issued to whomever.

Even these rules are very general, and it's theoretically possible for a handful of Berthier long rifles and MAS 36 rifles to have seen service in Italy, but I haven't found any photographs of them.

For Normandy 1944, there was only the French 2nd Armored Division, which was the most Americanized of the French units, within which it's hard to find even Adrian helmets. No French weapons there as far as I've found, just M1917 Enfields and M1 Carbines.

For Provence 1944 until the end of the war, the rules of Italy apply, except that the MAS 36 quickly re-entered common but random service as the army found Vichy depots and integrated F.F.I. units, and that the 1er RCP was issued M1 Garands. Berthier long rifles reappeared in a more limited fashion late in 1944 as well.

For troops fighting in the Atlantic Pockets, it was almost anything goes in all respects, including uniform.

For the fighting against the Japanese and Thai in Indochina in 1940-1941 and 1945, the Berthier carbines had already superceded the long rifles since the late 1930s, and in any case the 1902 Berthier long rifle in common service there was much shorter than the 1916 type most common in the rest of the empire.

EDIT:

P.S. For MAS 36 identification, I highly recommend reading my post on the previous page.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 17-01-2011, 23:01:25
You're right about the Mas 36 identification, it is pretty easy!  You're a Californian? I thought you were French. 

Anyway, so the Berthier m16 carbine is looking pretty good right now, don't they use Lebel ammo?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 23-01-2011, 04:01:09
hmm bidding on a Berthier m16 rifle, how much would a gun like that usually go for?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 23-01-2011, 10:01:10
Between 1 and 1000 Dollar.

Seriously, i have no idea, US prices are of a different category then Belgian prices.

For instance, the Nagant revolver craze is over here, i had the luck of buying mine for 180 euro, prices now are 340 euro and rising. In the US it is less then 100 dollars or 1/4 of the price.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 23-01-2011, 16:01:01
hmm bidding on a Berthier m16 rifle, how much would a gun like that usually go for?

 There are quite a few on gunbroker in the 350-900 range.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 23-01-2011, 17:01:19
Just came back from the range, tested out the new mossin nagant 91/30.
It shot lovely groups at 50m (with sights set on the minimum 100m seting), problem was that they where hitting almost 20cm to low. Rather strange.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 23-01-2011, 22:01:25
Oh the woe of being a reenactor on the cheap...   :(

Would I be able to find a K98 or a LEe Enfield no. 4 or SMLE for cheaper?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 24-01-2011, 01:01:05
Oh the woe of being a reenactor on the cheap...   :(

Would I be able to find a K98 or a LEe Enfield no. 4 or SMLE for cheaper?

Yeah, it is tough to be on the cheap with reenacting stuff. I will give you some advice since I have been reenacting for quite a few years now. If you are serious and going to do it long term get what you really want. I was unsure how I was going to like it when I started out with a K98. I loved reenacting after my first event. I then upgraded weapons over the years until I had got what I wanted, a MP44.
 

A Enfield and Mauser 98k are in the $300+ range. Another thing is the price of blanks. I know a lot of RC mausers have problems feeding blanks. .303 blanks are expensive and hard to get.
Here is a Berthier at $100 with no reserve. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=212907043  (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=212907043)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 24-01-2011, 02:01:14
 :o
Wow! That is a very nice bargain!  I am already bidding for another but it has a reserve price which I haven't reached, so maybe I should wait for this one instead.  Thanks!  I would much rather have a French rifle than an Enfield or a k98, thanks for the link!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 24-01-2011, 04:01:59
:o
Wow! That is a very nice bargain!  I am already bidding for another but it has a reserve price which I haven't reached, so maybe I should wait for this one instead.  Thanks!  I would much rather have a French rifle than an Enfield or a k98, thanks for the link!

It aint a MP44 but it will do the trick for what you want.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 24-01-2011, 05:01:14
Well wouldn't want to upstage the Germans by showing up with an MP 44  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: azreal on 24-01-2011, 05:01:16
A Enfield and Mauser 98k are in the $300+ range. Another thing is the price of blanks. I know a lot of RC mausers have problems feeding blanks. .303 blanks are expensive and hard to get.
Here is a Berthier at $100 with no reserve. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=212907043  (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=212907043)

What's up with that website? Are they really selling collectible WWII guns for $50.00?
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=213239064
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 24-01-2011, 05:01:22
Um, cuz that is only worth like 50 bucks here :P

And its an auction site.  Just like ebay, expect the price to skyrocket on the last day of bidding.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 24-01-2011, 09:01:39
turns out i have 480 euro on a account from insurance money of a accident i had in the past(lost a bit of a teeth)

im SO USING this to get myself a Berthier carbine FFS
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Pascucci the Whiner on 24-01-2011, 15:01:34
The Hungarians didn't put the M44 into production until the early and mid 50's, so it's not from WWII. They range in value from around $70-$80 for a rough non-matching one up to about $400 for a matching un-issued one (like I have  ;D). 99% are rough non-matching ones, often containing other late 1940's era and early-mid 1950's era parts from other Eastern European and Russian M44 carbines. Basically their is nothing WWII about this fine rifle, even the design was slightly different than the war-time Russian M44's (which were not extremely common until 1945 and even then the M91/30 was far more common (hence the reason I rant about it being in RO: Ostfront in such large numbers :|.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 25-01-2011, 01:01:11
I almost brought a crate of 20 mosins nagant rifles 2 years ago It was my choice of of models. It was $60/rifle and included 20 slings,bayos,oilers,tool kits and ammo pouches.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 25-01-2011, 10:01:56
I almost brought a crate of 20 mosins nagant rifles 2 years ago It was my choice of of models. It was $60/rifle and included 20 slings,bayos,oilers,tool kits and ammo pouches.
why dint you do it?  >:(
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Johannes on 25-01-2011, 11:01:32
Yes, I'm a Californian.

Careful with that Berthier auction. The seller doesn't have any good pictures showing the entirety of the gun. Generally I would refuse to bid on any auction unless there are many clear pictures detailing it all.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 25-01-2011, 20:01:16
Uploaded photo of my Dutch field ration for bangoo, he asked for a photo

got 2 of these for 4 euro
(http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/7859/minn001.jpg)

Contents=
1 bag of salt
4 baggs of sugar
1 Mentos Candy roll
1 tube of Dextrose tablets + vitamins
2 Tooth picks
1 Bar of Pure chocolate
1 Matchbox
1 pack of chewing gum
2 packages of instant soup(Champion and tomato)
1 bag of Boullion pellets
2 portions of Ardennes Pate (Belgium in Dutch field rations!fck yeah)
1 Portion of Tuna pate
1 portoin of Jelly
1 portion of Liege appel/pear/dadets sirup(Again belgian stuff!!)
2 Instant coffees
2 Tea bags
1 tissue package
1 Lemonado drink
2 Cacao Chocolate drinks
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Biiviz on 25-01-2011, 21:01:33
Thanks for resizing it.


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/Be4viz/derp.png)

DERP DURR
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 25-01-2011, 21:01:59
Dark chocolatebar, mmmm  :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Bang0o on 25-01-2011, 21:01:56
nice! i wish german epa had mentos!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 25-01-2011, 21:01:03
Dark chocolatebar, mmmm  :)
In a white wrapper  ;D

Edit= DAM THIS IS GOOD CHOCOLATE
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 26-01-2011, 03:01:33
I almost brought a crate of 20 mosins nagant rifles 2 years ago It was my choice of of models. It was $60/rifle and included 20 slings,bayos,oilers,tool kits and ammo pouches.
why dint you do it?  >:(

 I would have to buy another cabinet just for them. They are also not my main area of militaria collecting. I collect the German stuff for the most part.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 26-01-2011, 04:01:24
Any good booksout there on the Free French? Besides Osprey, please. Preferably in English buy I can read French pretty well.

About that carbine I am going to ask for a nicer picture.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 26-01-2011, 04:01:39
Any good booksout there on the Free French? Besides Osprey, please. Preferably in English buy I can read French pretty well.

About that carbine I am going to ask for a nicer picture.

It don't look to bad but most of these old rifles have  damaged wood and are mismatched. They often have a cracked stock especially with the semi autos.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Johannes on 26-01-2011, 04:01:56
Pac-Man is on that rations box!

Any good booksout there on the Free French? Besides Osprey, please. Preferably in English buy I can read French pretty well.

About that carbine I am going to ask for a nicer picture.

Ask also for more details. Condition of the barrel, whether the receiver is "N" marked, what the inscription on the receiver is, etc. etc. Right off the bat, it looks like some sort of hole was drilled into the front sight? And the bolt handle is from the long rifle (straight) rather than the carbine, which was normal for Great War repair standards, but kind of less likely by 1939.

As for books, I'm not sure about pictoral reference books; in France a handful exist (I got a gigantic hardcover thing my last trip there on the French Expeditionary Corps in Italy, 1943-1944), but when it comes to uniform and gun references most people end up relying on such publications as Militaria magazine. Osprey can be very inaccurate at times, but I've found the two 1939-45 French Army volumes (less the Foreign Legion 1914-1945) to be, in general, accurate. There are always going to be some discrepancies in things like model designations, and Osprey's illustrations (like most other publications') are not colored as accurately as they could be.

If you mean French history in general during the war, then there are a ton I would recommend depending on what you're looking for (social, economic, military, political perspectives of a specific campaign?). If you mean in reference to materiel and equipment, then your best bet is Marcel Vigneras' U.S. Army in World War II: Special Studies: Rearming the French, which is the U.S. Army's official history of Lend-Lease aid to the French Army, 1943-1945. It also includes some background information on what the British had given the Free French prior to that period, what the British and Canadians gave between 1943 and 1945, and what the French were able to provide for themselves.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 27-01-2011, 18:01:27
I saw a nice kit that goes with my nagant so i bought it, 8 piece cleaning kit, don't have a clue what half of the things in it do, Small oil bottle, still filled for 2/3, double ammo pouch and a gun strap.

I doubt it is all WW2 but don't really care to be honest, I am not really a russian guy.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 27-01-2011, 18:01:07
I saw a nice kit that goes with my nagant so i bought it, 8 piece cleaning kit, don't have a clue what half of the things in it do, Small oil bottle, still filled for 2/3, double ammo pouch and a gun strap.

I doubt it is all WW2 but don't really care to be honest, I am not really a russian guy.
Can you provide a link/pic so i know how it looks? I plan on getting one myself

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Pascucci the Whiner on 27-01-2011, 19:01:26
A couple of useful links:

http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinAcc.htm

An instructional video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMeWyIHu0e0

Their is a 99.9% chance none of it will be WWII, but cool nonetheless! Have fun with it! They aren't worth much of anything so they're worth about 5-20 Euros or so.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 27-01-2011, 19:01:17
Thanks for the info, here are some pics, has some tools non of your info talked about though, one is the simple punch true (or however you call that in english), probably do take apart something in the wood or trigger mechanism i think (third from the right), and the other one is probably a screwdriver aswell? (right side)

Price here is about 31 euro, not that bad.

(http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/2889/imag0063w.jpg)
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Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 27-01-2011, 19:01:36
Pretty awesome siben.

I need the magazine pouches and the Cleaning kit, then my Mosin nagant is complete


Then ammo and LET THE NAZI MOON ZOMBIE INVASION BEGIN
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Pascucci the Whiner on 27-01-2011, 19:01:08
Not bad, most of the time they are missing something, but this one isn't. They're simple to use really, very handy tools.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 27-01-2011, 19:01:19
I have a complete nagant revolver, with every tool

Yet appearntly you can fix any problem of this revolver with a simple hammer  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 28-01-2011, 01:01:36
Pac-Man is on that rations box!

Any good booksout there on the Free French? Besides Osprey, please. Preferably in English buy I can read French pretty well.

About that carbine I am going to ask for a nicer picture.

Ask also for more details. Condition of the barrel, whether the receiver is "N" marked, what the inscription on the receiver is, etc. etc. Right off the bat, it looks like some sort of hole was drilled into the front sight? And the bolt handle is from the long rifle (straight) rather than the carbine, which was normal for Great War repair standards, but kind of less likely by 1939.

As for books, I'm not sure about pictoral reference books; in France a handful exist (I got a gigantic hardcover thing my last trip there on the French Expeditionary Corps in Italy, 1943-1944), but when it comes to uniform and gun references most people end up relying on such publications as Militaria magazine. Osprey can be very inaccurate at times, but I've found the two 1939-45 French Army volumes (less the Foreign Legion 1914-1945) to be, in general, accurate. There are always going to be some discrepancies in things like model designations, and Osprey's illustrations (like most other publications') are not colored as accurately as they could be.

If you mean French history in general during the war, then there are a ton I would recommend depending on what you're looking for (social, economic, military, political perspectives of a specific campaign?). If you mean in reference to materiel and equipment, then your best bet is Marcel Vigneras' U.S. Army in World War II: Special Studies: Rearming the French, which is the U.S. Army's official history of Lend-Lease aid to the French Army, 1943-1945. It also includes some background information on what the British had given the Free French prior to that period, what the British and Canadians gave between 1943 and 1945, and what the French were able to provide for themselves.
Military books on their campaigns would be better, not reference books, real books.  I've read Soldiers of the Night and Marrianne in Chains so I have learned a lot about the Occupation.

Anyway, the owner of the Berthier assures me it is a nice rifle.  He says there is a letter "I" on the receiver and "FN 48566" and on top of that is "38556".

What do those mean?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: GuinNess on 28-01-2011, 19:01:35
Hi guys

I'm thinking of buying a Lee Enfield MK IV an well today I was at the gunshop and tested it ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEZjoBABR04

Its something specail because on the side it says "US Property". It costs 300 euro
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Kading on 28-01-2011, 19:01:57
Hi guys

I'm thinking of buying a Lee Enfield MK IV an well today I was at the gunshop and tested it ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEZjoBABR04

Its something specail because on the side it says "US Property". It costs 300 euro

First off, stop placing your thumb behind the bolt leaver, it scares me to watch you do that.

"US Property" signifies it was produced by the Savage Arms company in the US. So that gun has crossed the Atlantic. If that matters to you, fork over the extra cash. If not, buy one that doesn't have as cool of a story for much less.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 28-01-2011, 20:01:20
Yeah dude, if something happens, that bolt will take your thumb off doing that.  Place it wrapped over the top of the buttstock, where it belongs :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 29-01-2011, 00:01:09
Pyjamashark loses another auction...  :(
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 29-01-2011, 13:01:01
Hi guys

I'm thinking of buying a Lee Enfield MK IV an well today I was at the gunshop and tested it ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEZjoBABR04

Its something specail because on the side it says "US Property". It costs 300 euro

First off, stop placing your thumb behind the bolt leaver, it scares me to watch you do that.

"US Property" signifies it was produced by the Savage Arms company in the US. So that gun has crossed the Atlantic. If that matters to you, fork over the extra cash. If not, buy one that doesn't have as cool of a story for much less.

This is europe my friend, 300 for an enfield is dirt cheap. most go for 400 here, and that is not even 100km of luxembourg.

The us made enfields are the cheapest of the lot since most of the production during the war went to the northern united states making british made wartime enfields more rare. they are also slightly different then the English made enfields, they have a different method for removing the bolt for instance.

It looks like a nice rifle, i you want it i see no reason for not buying it, they are great to shoot and i love the sights.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 29-01-2011, 14:01:24
Enfields do indeed come around that price yeah. I went to several militaria fairs now, and i saw prices from 350 up to 550 euro.

Anyway, i'm going to the biggest fair of belgium, Ciney on May 1.

Target=A Berthier carbine in the best possible condition.

With perhaps also a carcano. I saw several very good condition Carcano's in Waver, and they sold for 150 to 200 euro

Siben mate, if you are going to Ciney, let me know, so we can grab a drink afterwards
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 29-01-2011, 14:01:17
Don't have transportation....
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: MaJ.P.Bouras on 29-01-2011, 16:01:08
So they are selling some M1's replicas in the Center...For around 125€ or something...Is it worthy buying and what does not work in a replica so its a "legal" weapon?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 29-01-2011, 16:01:46
So they are selling some M1's replicas in the Center...For around 125€ or something...Is it worthy buying and what does not work in a replica so its a "legal" weapon?

Depends on witch replica, some are basicly a painted rubber cast and only sort of look like the real deal, others are made in metal and wood and look exactly like the real deal, and some others are even better and can even shoot blanks.

The point of a replica is to look like the real thing, but to not shoot real bullets. How much they really are like the real thing can depend a lot.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 29-01-2011, 17:01:30
Don't have transportation....
Take the train to diest, i'll come pick you up  ;)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 29-01-2011, 17:01:12
I'll get my digital camera while I'm home this weekend to take pics, but a couple days ago now I got a package in the mail, containing my first step towards getting together a Polish Army of the West impression, the wz37 Rogatywka, or for those who don't know what that is, its the four corner square topped polish field cap.  :D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 29-01-2011, 19:01:11
Target for this fair in may=
Carbine Mle 1892 M 16 Berthier

And if i have some money left, A carcano
Either a Moschetto di Fanteria Mod. 91/24 (6.5mm) or the Fucile di Fanteria Mod. 91/38 (either in 6.5 or 7.35)

Reason for this, is because in Waver, i saw many Carcanos, in excellent condition and for prices of 150-200 euro.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: luftwaffe.be on 29-01-2011, 20:01:52
I'm looking for a pioneer-shovel for digging out my finds with my metal detector. I'm currently using a garden shovel and it's a pain in the ass to use. I want the power of a big shovel in a small packaging

I've been to an "American stockhouse" and a few adventure/camping stores with no success (they only had gardens shovels and big ones), so I guess I'll have to get one trough the internet :/

So this one is the first I come across

http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/Cold-steel-Outdoor-survival-schep-geschikt-bijl-/390282697358?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_123&hash=item5adea95a8e

with youtube video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0McQ-cQmUZA&feature=player_embedded

Now all fine and dandy but does this thing dig ? This makes me worried about the quality and durability of this thing. It sort of looks like something to hang on a wall rather then to dig (my major concers) other then that it looks decent.

I cannot find any other decent ones in Belgium, so it off to Germany

they offer allot of these DDR shovels at a fair price (10-12 euro)

http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/Klappspaten-m-Rahmentasche-gebr-NVA-1100-/400189318607?pt=Militaria&hash=item5d2d2465cf

http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/Klappspaten-mit-Tasche-von-der-NVA-Neuw-/150544977724?pt=NATO_Shop&hash=item230d2e0f3c

Any idea how durable they are ? Any advice regarding the best shovels to pick ? I prefer durability over foldability, so that's why I'm not really looking for one of those modern ones, I prefer one with a wooden grip.

Regards LUFTY 
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Pascucci the Whiner on 29-01-2011, 21:01:53
Target for this fair in may=
Carbine Mle 1892 M 16 Berthier

And if i have some money left, A carcano
Either a Moschetto di Fanteria Mod. 91/24 (6.5mm) or the Fucile di Fanteria Mod. 91/38 (either in 6.5 or 7.35)

Reason for this, is because in Waver, i saw many Carcanos, in excellent condition and for prices of 150-200 euro.

I love my 91/41, it's purdy. The Carcano is among the most interesting bolt actions ever designed and is very unique. Get one and you'll love it. I'd love to get a Berthier myself though, nice guns.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 29-01-2011, 21:01:51
Target for this fair in may=
Carbine Mle 1892 M 16 Berthier

And if i have some money left, A carcano
Either a Moschetto di Fanteria Mod. 91/24 (6.5mm) or the Fucile di Fanteria Mod. 91/38 (either in 6.5 or 7.35)

Reason for this, is because in Waver, i saw many Carcanos, in excellent condition and for prices of 150-200 euro.

I love my 91/41, it's purdy. The Carcano is among the most interesting bolt actions ever designed and is very unique. Get one and you'll love it. I'd love to get a Berthier myself though, nice guns.
Ye. Many people laughed at me when i said i wanted a carcano, but they can piss off! WANKERS

I held an carcano, and i just want one. Its a beautifull rifle, It has a indeed very nice bolt action and such.
The berthier is also like that. It is unique, and not like all those common enfields, mausers and nagants.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Kading on 29-01-2011, 21:01:56
I'm looking for a pioneer-shovel for digging out my finds with my metal detector. I'm currently using a garden shovel and it's a pain in the ass to use. I want the power of a big shovel in a small packaging

I've been to an "American stockhouse" and a few adventure/camping stores with no success (they only had gardens shovels and big ones), so I guess I'll have to get one trough the internet :/

So this one is the first I come across

http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/Cold-steel-Outdoor-survival-schep-geschikt-bijl-/390282697358?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_123&hash=item5adea95a8e

with youtube video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0McQ-cQmUZA&feature=player_embedded

Now all fine and dandy but does this thing dig ? This makes me worried about the quality and durability of this thing. It sort of looks like something to hang on a wall rather then to dig (my major concers) other then that it looks decent.

I cannot find any other decent ones in Belgium, so it off to Germany

they offer allot of these DDR shovels at a fair price (10-12 euro)

http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/Klappspaten-m-Rahmentasche-gebr-NVA-1100-/400189318607?pt=Militaria&hash=item5d2d2465cf

http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/Klappspaten-mit-Tasche-von-der-NVA-Neuw-/150544977724?pt=NATO_Shop&hash=item230d2e0f3c

Any idea how durable they are ? Any advice regarding the best shovels to pick ? I prefer durability over foldability, so that's why I'm not really looking for one of those modern ones, I prefer one with a wooden grip.

Regards LUFTY 


I take my solid handle Swiss E-tool every time I go camping. You don't need a folding one, they are flimsy and weigh about the same anyway. The last link you posted is nice, for a folding one. The saw blade on the side will come in handy if you want to cut firewood.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Pascucci the Whiner on 30-01-2011, 05:01:38
Target for this fair in may=
Carbine Mle 1892 M 16 Berthier

And if i have some money left, A carcano
Either a Moschetto di Fanteria Mod. 91/24 (6.5mm) or the Fucile di Fanteria Mod. 91/38 (either in 6.5 or 7.35)

Reason for this, is because in Waver, i saw many Carcanos, in excellent condition and for prices of 150-200 euro.

I love my 91/41, it's purdy. The Carcano is among the most interesting bolt actions ever designed and is very unique. Get one and you'll love it. I'd love to get a Berthier myself though, nice guns.
Ye. Many people laughed at me when i said i wanted a carcano, but they can piss off! WANKERS

I held an carcano, and i just want one. Its a beautifull rifle, It has a indeed very nice bolt action and such.
The berthier is also like that. It is unique, and not like all those common enfields, mausers and nagants.

And they're less expensive than most common rifles :P. Far from my specialty though. Classy rifles anyways, the Italians had style :D.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 30-01-2011, 12:01:06
Target for this fair in may=
Carbine Mle 1892 M 16 Berthier

And if i have some money left, A carcano
Either a Moschetto di Fanteria Mod. 91/24 (6.5mm) or the Fucile di Fanteria Mod. 91/38 (either in 6.5 or 7.35)

Reason for this, is because in Waver, i saw many Carcanos, in excellent condition and for prices of 150-200 euro.

I love my 91/41, it's purdy. The Carcano is among the most interesting bolt actions ever designed and is very unique. Get one and you'll love it. I'd love to get a Berthier myself though, nice guns.
Ye. Many people laughed at me when i said i wanted a carcano, but they can piss off! WANKERS

I held an carcano, and i just want one. Its a beautifull rifle, It has a indeed very nice bolt action and such.
The berthier is also like that. It is unique, and not like all those common enfields, mausers and nagants.

And they're less expensive than most common rifles :P. Far from my specialty though. Classy rifles anyways, the Italians had style :D.
That aswel. Why should i pay 5 times more for a K98k then for a mosin nagant for example?
In belgium, you can clearly see this. Yes im gonna use the word=German bias.
Half the stands on a fair are full with only german stuff. People ask ridiculous prices for german stuff, and the lamest thing of all=PEOPLE EVEN FALL FOR IT AND buy IT!


No thanks, i rather stick to the lesser know weapons. Berthier, Carcano, Mas 36, other countries wich had mausers..., Steyr Mannlichers, Mannlicher-Schönauer (Yes Maj Bouras GREEK bias!! :v)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 30-01-2011, 12:01:36
prewar MAS 36 go for twice the money of a mauser when in average condition, just sharing
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 30-01-2011, 13:01:11
prewar MAS 36 go for twice the money of a mauser when in average condition, just sharing
Ye, but everyone wants mausers, not Mas 36  ;)

When i took my airsoft buddies with me, all they wanted to see where mausers and enfields.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 30-01-2011, 13:01:12
Check it out theta, i feel so tempted but i have no clue if its real or fake.

http://www.2dehands.be/antiek-art/antiek/wapens/oorlogsgeweer-kijker-86361732.html?qq=
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 30-01-2011, 13:01:27
I dont know. He says its a rare weapon, and yet he asks 425 euro

you're the military expert here ;)

I dont know, i was just shocked to see a K98 kosting 1200 euro
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 30-01-2011, 13:01:11
It's cheap because it's in 7mm mauser, never even heard about that calibre till now, i bet you can't find any bullets for it here.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 30-01-2011, 13:01:10
K98k with scope mount + scope for 425€ is totally absurd. The mount and scope combined could very well be at least half the price or even more. Hell, I've seen only scopes being sold for couple of hundred of euros and mount for one to two hundred a piece. Not to mention the price of the gun itself.

A deactivated K98k in general isnt too pricy, or shouldnt be. It hasnt got too much of a value but still greater than like Mosin Nagant. But a rifle, scope and a mount for 425€ and the gun is totally legit? Then its a bargain you shouldnt miss... however, who really knows if its a scam or not. :(

EDIT: Oh it is changed to 7mm? Well that explains it. That sucks quite a lot out of the price.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 30-01-2011, 13:01:09
It is not a K98k flippy, it's a VZ 32 export sniper for uruguay. Basicly a chech mauser sniper rifle but in a different calibre.

Doing some reading on the rifle at this moment if i like and when it seems ligit i might buy.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 30-01-2011, 13:01:42
Oh alright. I blame the crazy language on that site. Who writes like that anyway.  ::)


 :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 30-01-2011, 13:01:39
It is not a K98k flippy, it's a VZ 32 export sniper for uruguay. Basicly a chech mauser sniper rifle but in a different calibre.

Doing some reading on the rifle at this moment if i like and when it seems ligit i might buy.
you can email him for higher quality photo's so it seems
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 30-01-2011, 13:01:11
Check your hotmail.

Looks legit, but the scope looks modern.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 30-01-2011, 14:01:21
The rifle looks indeed legit yes. The scope...

I see Waffen  something  and then wurzeug
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: ajappat on 30-01-2011, 14:01:17
Why don't you two just use messenger or something?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 30-01-2011, 14:01:32
we are at the moment.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: GuinNess on 30-01-2011, 20:01:05
Yeah dude, if something happens, that bolt will take your thumb off doing that.  Place it wrapped over the top of the buttstock, where it belongs :P

Im used to shoot my M1 like that so sorry for scaring you. Mistakes are there to learn from ;) but thanks for thx informations. If i'll buy it I will post some pictures .
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Johannes on 31-01-2011, 03:01:36
Pyjamashark loses another auction...  :(

That's okay. That auction looked iffy at the very best.

Varied serial numbers just means the rifle is not matching. Replaced parts, factory fixes using replacement parts, or even a reconstruction using original parts. It's very common for both World Wars, especially World War One. Like I said, that carbine was clearly using the long rifle bolt.

Soldiers of the Night was a decent book, but it makes some pretty blatantly wrong statements. For example, Vichy French troops were not divided at the beginning of the Tunisian Campaign; Schoenbrun states that the first shots of that campaign rang out with the French shooting at each other on either side of the war.

Flatly not true. There was some resistance/Vichy clashing during the Torch landings at Algiers, but by the time the Allies had moved into Tunisia to fight the Axis the Vichy French forces were firmly on the Allied side. The first major battle of the campaign, at Medjez-el-Bab on 19 November 1942, was fought primarily between the Vichy French (with help from some British troops and American artillerymen) against the Germans. No Frenchmen were on the Axis side at that point.

But Schoenbrun falls into the "journalist writing about history" category of writer. Such books are prone to major errors of fact and generally have weak analysis, but are perfect for finding out the story of what happened. Hard history books, written by true historians, tend to go light on the story to tell the analysis: great if you love learning history as an obsession (yay!), but it can be not very helpful if you don't already know the story or are just after something fun to read.

Anyway, for a short list I would recommend:

1940:

To Lose a Battle by Alistair Horne. Great at telling the story, but again this is journalistic history. Horne's analyses are flawed at best in my opinion, and it's very easy to punch holes in all his arguments.

The Fall of France by Julian Jackson. Fantastic book analyzing the fall of France in 1940. Jackson, a noted British historian, makes very persuasive observations about the era preceding the defeat.

The Occupation:

Wine and War: great personal stories of the wine industry and its ties to resistance and collaboration during the occupation. Again, this is journalistic history, so it makes a few obvious mistakes; the French 2nd Armored Division was not the first Allied unit to reach Berchtesgaden, for instance. Still a great read.

Is Paris Burning?: classic story of the liberation of Paris. Written in the middle of the Cold War, I think it paints too much of a menacing portrait of the French communists, but again this is journalistic history that makes for a fun read.

Vichy France: Old Guard & New Order by Robert Paxton. This legendary history book is a must-read for anyone interested in the period. It more or less redefined the postwar perception of the Vichy government and forms the basis for all current academic discussion of it. I would argue that it has some serious flaws and completely ignores from a military perspective the decisions Vichy made (odd given Paxton's earlier work on the French officer corps); as a result, despite many social historians taking it as the gospel of truth, it's quite easy for me to pick out some serious holes in the analysis. Perhaps more annoyingly, Paxton is very moralizing and quick to make sweeping judgements (which he acknowledges in the 2001 edition's introduction) that are not substantiated by the hard evidence presented. Nevertheless, he was writing in a time where the popular consensus was flatly wrong, and he succeeded in shattering the myth that the Vichy government was pro-Allied and played a double game in order to serve solely as a shield against German demands. An excellent book and a must-read.

Darlan: Admiral and Statesman of France, 1881-1942: Great book on Darlan. It has some flaws, but it's one of the better ones out there, as historian George Melton didn't set out to simply judge Darlan from the perspective of "anything Vichy was inherently evil, case closed".

Other stuff:

Les Forces françaises dans la lutte contre l'Axe en Afrique, Tome II : La Campagne de Tunisie: The official French military's history of the Vichy French Army during the Tunisian Campaign. Extremely useful. (Tome I was all about the Free French in Africa before and during Tunisia, but I haven't looked at it yet.)

Tug of War: The battle for Italy, 1943-1945, by Dominick Graham and Shelford Bidwell: The best of the books I've read on the Italian campaign in my opinion. The writing style is very dry so it will drag, but the analysis is usually good, and unlike most historical works on the Italian campaign, this one goes into quite heavy detail on the deployment and strategy of the French Army at Monte Cassino rather than just saying something on one of the last pages to the effect of "oh, and the French Army was there and it did well in Operation Diadem and broke through the Gustav Line."
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 12-02-2011, 21:02:01
Can someone who has in his possesion, the Mauser ZF scope, photograph the sights and post it here? I'd like to see how it looks from the inside, I mean what the aim is like. Just out of curiosity ( Enemy at the gates was on TV yesterday :P) and I've always doubted (a bit) the hist. accuracy of the FH2 ZF scope.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 12-02-2011, 22:02:14
There are many different ZF scopes, you will need to be a bit more specific.

I do not have one, but you can find many pictures on google if you look for it.

If you mean the ZF41 (witch i think you are) then it looks like this.
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTAF4hT5OIDQsy1j1aW2BjX7nH2K1s5L0PhOCfL3Vq3vg0EqUhRjg&t=1)

Can't remember the exact numbers, but i believe the plan was to have this scope on 1 out of 6 K98k rifles, it magnifies 1.5 times, a lot less then the 4 or 6 times in the German sniper rifles.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Ciupita on 12-02-2011, 23:02:08
There are many different ZF scopes, you will need to be a bit more specific.

I do not have one, but you can find many pictures on google if you look for it.

If you mean the ZF41 (witch i think you are) then it looks like this.
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTAF4hT5OIDQsy1j1aW2BjX7nH2K1s5L0PhOCfL3Vq3vg0EqUhRjg&t=1)

Can't remember the exact numbers, but i believe the plan was to have this scope on 1 out of 6 K98k rifles, it magnifies 1.5 times, a lot less then the 4 or 6 times in the German sniper rifles.

Since he is talking about Enemy at the Gates, I think he means ZF4 sight. FH2 german sight is accurate, the film has wrong sight for Mauser. (Russian Mosin uses also the german reticle what ZF4 is using)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Reticles_vector.svg
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 12-02-2011, 23:02:40
There are many different ZF scopes, you will need to be a bit more specific.

I do not have one, but you can find many pictures on google if you look for it.

If you mean the ZF41 (witch i think you are) then it looks like this.
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTAF4hT5OIDQsy1j1aW2BjX7nH2K1s5L0PhOCfL3Vq3vg0EqUhRjg&t=1)

Can't remember the exact numbers, but i believe the plan was to have this scope on 1 out of 6 K98k rifles, it magnifies 1.5 times, a lot less then the 4 or 6 times in the German sniper rifles.

That is the same sight for all the german scopes.  So yes, enemy at the gates is highly inaccurate.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 13-02-2011, 14:02:32
okay, thanks for the info :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 13-02-2011, 18:02:53
So, i found some new stuff on the kitchen table today. You know the 2 in the middle.
(http://i54.tinypic.com/nf2ypt.jpg)


1917  Enfield SMLE III*, shows marks of battle and was probably patched up for WW2. Bolt and magazine have no serial numbers, otherwise matching.
1891 Gew 88. has a lot of half moons on it, so i guess turkish? Was made in Germany though. Matching serial.

Also, could have bought a S/42 K98k completely matching numbers in pre war configuration but lacked any more funding :(
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 13-02-2011, 19:02:23
Yes, that's a Turk one, but it was probably used initially by the Germans, then when Turkey joined the war, shipped to them, restamped and issued it to their troops. :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 13-02-2011, 19:02:38
Yeah, what i was thinking.

Anyone know if i can shoot it? did not find any good internet references on it so far, only found out that there where several different types. no idea how to know witch one is mine.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 14-02-2011, 18:02:43
So nobody has any info? hmm, ok then, will do some more digging myself. Very little out there and i seriously doubd i can use it with the same load that i put in my K98k
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 14-02-2011, 18:02:58
If it is marked with a large stamped S on the top of the reciever, it should be OK to shoot, but I would still bring it to a gunsmith.  Guns that old can have bad headspacing, and putting a round through it can blow it up (my Gew98 is that way).  That said, others can be perfectly fine, such as my friends gew88, which shoots great.  But first, def check for that S.  it should be there, especially if it is turk, and it means that it was converted to allow it to fire the 7.92X57 mauser.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 14-02-2011, 18:02:44
Roger that, it might indeed be a good idea to have it tested. There is 1 place in the country i can do that officially, but it's such a long drive :(

I do believe it is marked with an S, and it's not a turk one, it is just used by the turks, the rifle is made in Loewe Berlin. A very famous place, lol, i short wiki told me the luger was designed there, and also the 9x19mm. My rifle was made in the year mister luger was employed. 1891.

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 14-02-2011, 18:02:00
Roger that, it might indeed be a good idea to have it tested. There is 1 place in the country i can do that officially, but it's such a long drive :(

I do believe it is marked with an S, and it's not a turk one, it is just used by the turks, the rifle is made in Loewe Berlin. A very famous place, lol, i short wiki told me the luger was designed there, and also the 9x19mm. My rifle was made in the year mister luger was employed. 1891.



All are made in germany, when I say turk it just means it was issued to the turks :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 14-02-2011, 22:02:06
Could someone experienced tell me if either of these gun auctions look good please?

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=215270805

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=215466410

They both look like nice Berthiers to me but then again I know next to nothing about guns.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 14-02-2011, 22:02:02
Both look nice.  I'd def watch them if I were you.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 14-02-2011, 22:02:47
The top berthier looks pretty good. And 150 is a good price. Berthier carbines at that state usually go around 250-350 euro here in belgium
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 16-02-2011, 15:02:38
Does anyone know when was this particular gas-mask used and by who?


(no picture)


I got it today, it has a long elastic tube between the mask and the filter, it has no straps, it's matt black rubber and has round eyeholes. anyone? oh and it's not quite stiff. (is that the term? wobble wobble xD)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Thorondor123 on 16-02-2011, 15:02:44
(http://gasmasksforsale.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/russian-gas-mask-for-sale.jpg)
Like this Russian one?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 16-02-2011, 15:02:43
you read my mind hehe. yes, I think it's exactly like that one, I don't know about the filter though, I don't have it. And it's black but nvm. so, when? where? :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 19-02-2011, 19:02:20
Roger that, it might indeed be a good idea to have it tested. There is 1 place in the country i can do that officially, but it's such a long drive :(

I do believe it is marked with an S, and it's not a turk one, it is just used by the turks, the rifle is made in Loewe Berlin. A very famous place, lol, i short wiki told me the luger was designed there, and also the 9x19mm. My rifle was made in the year mister luger was employed. 1891.

All are made in germany, when I say turk it just means it was issued to the turks :P

Yeah, but some where grinded and had a turkish manufacturer stamped instead.

Question about the SMLE, serial seems so weird, it is stamed in the wood and on 3 other places and says D 700. Looks so short, can this be correct? how is it on yours?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 20-02-2011, 14:02:29
Holy shit, we must have this ingame ASAP!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzgppGj0sww

That, ladies and gentleman, is why the webly Mk6 is now on my to buy list!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Josh094 on 20-02-2011, 15:02:16
Holy shit, we must have this ingame ASAP!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzgppGj0sww

That, ladies and gentleman, is why the webly Mk6 is now on my to buy list!

I'm in love.

I'm taking this to NML now :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 20-02-2011, 19:02:16
Holy shit, we must have this ingame ASAP!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzgppGj0sww

That, ladies and gentleman, is why the webly Mk6 is now on my to buy list!

I'm in love.

I'm taking this to NML now :P
OH MY god!


I got myself a mills grenade for 20 euro. In decent condition. Explosive martials removed, but the rest is all intact

pics tomorow
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: MaJ.P.Bouras on 22-02-2011, 15:02:44
So....After quite a while here goes my ANCIENT rifle.Modified by my father to shoot Shotgun shells (unfortunately)

(1877-1949) Gras rifle (http://greek-war-equipment.blogspot.com/2009/06/gras-rifle.html#comment-form)

(http://s4.postimage.org/1kc2cfr38/IMG_0017.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/1kc2cfr38/)
Oesterr Waffenfabr Ges  Gras. Y:1874 steyr . You cant see the Y:1874 due to the shadow.
(http://s4.postimage.org/1kcfkqj1g/IMG_0010.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/1kcfkqj1g/)

(http://s4.postimage.org/1kcnuf9ic/IMG_0011.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/1kcnuf9ic/)

(http://s4.postimage.org/1kcw43zz8/IMG_0012.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/1kcw43zz8/)

(http://s4.postimage.org/1kd2q9dyc/IMG_0013.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/1kd2q9dyc/)


Any specific pics you might want please tell me.


Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 22-02-2011, 15:02:11
Very very nice Maj bouras


Shame you dont have Mannlicher-Schönauer rifle though(Rifle used alot by the greek)

A greek Mannlicher-Schönauer is also on my list to get one day
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Eat Uranium on 22-02-2011, 15:02:08
If I could own just one historical rifle, I think it would have to be a Martini-Henry (or Martini-Enfield).  Just something about it 8)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 22-02-2011, 16:02:15
If I could own just one historical rifle, I think it would have to be a Martini-Henry (or Martini-Enfield).  Just something about it 8)
Get ready to spend alot of cash then  ;)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 22-02-2011, 18:02:33
They are rather ok, problem is you can't shoot them due to no amunition (unles you make them yourself) and the internals are usualy so old and worn they need replacement.

I believe you can good a decent one for 600 euro or so. Not 100% sure about this price though. I see them at guns shows reasonably often, nobody really has an interest in weapons from this era.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 22-02-2011, 18:02:44
Indeed. I saw a guy before who had 2 martini henries at 700 euro a piece. Had them at start of oostende Fair, still had them when he was packing up

However the Martini henries where in really really good condition. I have to admit that.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Eat Uranium on 22-02-2011, 18:02:03
Yeah, I realise most of that.  But it is mostly wishful thinking - I can't see me getting an FAC for a long time.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 22-02-2011, 18:02:40
If I could own just one historical rifle, I think it would have to be a Martini-Henry (or Martini-Enfield).  Just something about it 8)
Get ready to spend alot of cash then  ;)

http://www.ima-usa.com/nation/british-militaria/guns-of-the-british-empire/martini-henry/martini-henry-rifles.html
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 22-02-2011, 19:02:11
If I could own just one historical rifle, I think it would have to be a Martini-Henry (or Martini-Enfield).  Just something about it 8)
Get ready to spend alot of cash then  ;)

http://www.ima-usa.com/nation/british-militaria/guns-of-the-british-empire/martini-henry/martini-henry-rifles.html
Pretty much the same prices here, but in Euro's. However on militaria fairs, everything is more expensive
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 22-02-2011, 19:02:59
Not always (nagant revolvers) , also, some things you can only find on militaria fairs. Like i am looking for a tiny extra spring for the safety of my SMLE, a fair is the only place i will find one, and it will probably be like only 2 euro.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 22-02-2011, 20:02:02
Not always (nagant revolvers) , also, some things you can only find on militaria fairs. Like i am looking for a tiny extra spring for the safety of my SMLE, a fair is the only place i will find one, and it will probably be like only 2 euro.
But i saw berthiers at Egun for 200 euro in perfect condition, for wich i have to pay 400 at fairs

But i cant buy those Berthiers at Egun because of licenses in germany
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 22-02-2011, 20:02:02
There you just answered your own question, its suply and demand, here it is more easy to buy, thus, price up since demand rises, in germany less people buy, thus, price must come down or they will never sell those rifles.

If we would get an even stricter gunlaw, weapons will become cheaper to make the jump for buying a weapon smaller. Why do so few people buy semi auto's here? because of the 95 euro registration fee that has to be renewed every 5 years iirc
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 22-02-2011, 21:02:36
Indeed Comerade.(I was giving you 100% correct from the beginning, but my english failed)

I think our gunlaw is fine Atm.

Left winged opposers claimed a few years ago that gun incidents would go out of control with the current gunlaw.

So far i havent saw a single incident in wich a crime was commited with a Historic free weapon here.
Also the ammo is stricly controlled. I met 2 gun dealers wich sold ammo for my rifles, and both said=License or nothing

There will always be a black market for rifle caliber bullets for these free weapons, but i bet they cost 1.5-2 euro per bullet
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 27-02-2011, 05:02:12
Some cracks but this Berthier looks nice!

What do y'all think of this?

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=216618628
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 27-02-2011, 13:02:03
Looks nice, but i would not shoot it with that wood. Definitely needs to be replaced.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 27-02-2011, 13:02:22
Look at mah mills, mah mills is amazing


(http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/4236/mills002.jpg)
(http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/1468/mills003.jpg)
(http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/5301/mills004.jpg)

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 27-02-2011, 16:02:23
Looks nice, but i would not shoot it with that wood. Definitely needs to be replaced.
ok, I see.  what would happen if I shot it without fixing the wood?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 27-02-2011, 16:02:08
Looks nice, but i would not shoot it with that wood. Definitely needs to be replaced.
ok, I see.  what would happen if I shot it without fixing the wood?
Firing a firearm in that condition is dangorous, it can explode, you can lose fingers and such
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 27-02-2011, 16:02:17
ok well that would suck, better get somebody to fix it then.  I thank you, because if I won the auction without knowing that, i would probably have less fingers.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 27-02-2011, 16:02:37
im sure you can get a good berthier for the same price mate :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 27-02-2011, 17:02:21
It won't explode theta, its more comparable with being hit in the face/eye with 3kg of iron. Can leave quite a mess when that stock fails. You just need a replacement buttstock for it, and since i hate people that have wood on a rifle that does not match the rest of the wooden parts i suggest replacing all the wood on it. Will probably set you back an extra 50 or so.

Never throw away any parts on a rifle like this, even when you think you don't need them anymore. With the cracked stock it should still be worth more to a collector then with a brand new one.

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 27-02-2011, 17:02:14
i woudlnt say the wood stock and handles, has anything to do with the firing of a gun at all..

we have controlled fired allto of guns here without wood.. :P ofcourse, its not to recommend, but it certainly wont blow up because of the wood :P


gah siben got ahead of me!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 27-02-2011, 17:02:04
FINE JEEZ

its because one of my mates his Kar 98 once exploded in his face that im telling you this, this was because of bad wood   

he was lucky the rifle exploded to the right of his face, because otherwise his left arm
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 27-02-2011, 17:02:02
bad wood wont make guns go boom, bad mechanics does
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 27-02-2011, 17:02:33
Wait, what? how did it happened, the Kar98 has safety features to blow away from you face and to the left in case of overpresure. Wood has nothing to do with it, oil or dirt in the barrel is a main reason for things like what you describe.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 27-02-2011, 18:02:58
does the fact that I only ever plan to shoot blanks matter at all?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 27-02-2011, 18:02:24
Yes, blanks have no recoil, should be fine then, but still, the wood could crack further and even break when not taken care of. Should still be replaced if you plan on carrying it around much.

The state it is in now is perfect for putting on your wall and stare at it :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 27-02-2011, 18:02:20
well, i plan on doing that 90% of the time, and the other 10% is for the two or three times I reenact per year.  So maybe I should look at getting the wood replaced.  That would be about 50 us dollas, right?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 27-02-2011, 18:02:13
In Belgium, yes, in the United States, not a clue.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 27-02-2011, 18:02:06
probably cheaper, with the gun culture over here.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 27-02-2011, 18:02:42
Ye it will be cheaper. I saw several Wood only of berthier carbines on E-gun and they asked around 40-50 euro
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 05-03-2011, 15:03:25
Me and siben went to a fair today

bit of a dissapointment for me, as not a single berthier carbine. Last time i went to Waver, there was tonnes more stuff(intresting stuff like rifles, pistols, and stuff)

got myself a carcano manual,5 deco rounds for nagant and a fake ushanka of mother russia(5 euro only)

Siben was a bit more lucky
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 05-03-2011, 18:03:32
yup, got myself that hot blonde you where looking for. Why else do you think i was late and you could not find her.

Also got a bayo for my SMLE. I am happy with it, looks good.
(http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/585/imag0074.jpg)
(http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/7753/imag0076a.jpg)
(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/6326/imag0077g.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 05-03-2011, 18:03:46
yup, got myself that hot blonde you where looking for. Why else do you think i was late and you could not find her.


MOTHERfrakker I KNEW it took to long for you to get there

Edit we also saw a Jonson rifle M1941 in very good condition
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 06-03-2011, 20:03:47
And an MP38 and many other things, like on every fair.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 06-03-2011, 21:03:50
ye but the rarer stuff should be mentioned


the Bipod MG15 wassent there though :(
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 12-03-2011, 19:03:08
I got a berthier!!!!!

Still have no idea how guns work but it is so cool.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 12-03-2011, 19:03:50
xD  First, get a gun case.  Second, get a gun cleaning kit, Hoppes 9 makes rifle cleaning kits that are good basic things, you'll get everything you need to care for it.  Also, for disassembly, something you should do when you get it to make sure all parts are in working order and such, I suggest posting here for information:

http://curioandrelicfirearmsforum.yuku.com/forums/12/French-Rifles

I can't seem to find a tutorial on actual disassembly, but one thing you REALLY should do is to remove the bolt (but do NOT disassemble it)

http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?103089-*-Berthier-Bolt-Disassembly-*

Only remove the bolt, so that you can check the rifling.  Just hold the gun up to a light, and look down the barrel, to see the quality of the rifling (it should be sharp and distinct).
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 12-03-2011, 22:03:45
I got a berthier!!!!!

Still have no idea how guns work but it is so cool.
LES PICS

MAINTENANT!!
VITE!!!RAPIDE!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 03-04-2011, 15:04:56
Hey guys, I just found a bayonet in my basement, belonged to my grandfather. Looks a lot like the bayonet TheTa Siben (sorry, I'm blind)  posted on the very first page of this thread, but AFAIK the Yugoslav Army copied both the K98 and its bayonet after the war so my question is, how to identify this particular one?
It doesn't have a ring for the rifle-barrel, the blade is 25cm long.

The numbers are (:S)

2728 on the handle (the metal part that doesn't have the ring for the barrel)
8190 on the blade
8561 on the case

?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 03-04-2011, 15:04:51
Can you perhaps post a picture?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 03-04-2011, 16:04:52
coming up in a minute

here
(http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/7941/dsc0293sr.jpg)

(http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/8636/dsc0285ap.jpg)

(http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/7523/dsc0286x.jpg)

(http://img863.imageshack.us/img863/6843/dsc0287.jpg)

(http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/7669/dsc0289ol.jpg)

(http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4870/dsc0290p.jpg)

(http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/8553/dsc0292v.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 03-04-2011, 18:04:56
The thing you place the bayonet is in made in 1942 by F. Herder A Sn. in Solingen, Germany.

The bayonet itself is made by the company WKC (not known what it stands for, CVL was the military code for it) and by the looks of the stamps and location it seems to be 1940.

So, it's a real German made K98k Bayonet.

It does however seem to have lost its waffenambts, so it is probably grinded and reblued (explains why i looks so nice) sometime after the war.

Still a nice thing to have :)

Probably worth about 45 euro or so.

It is not a yugo bayonet since it does not have a ring to stick the barrel of the rifle true, the Germans did not use it, the yugo's did.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 03-04-2011, 19:04:04
Thats a nice bajonet you have there.


Also same keyboard as me :v
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 03-04-2011, 19:04:41
Siben you made my day, thanks a lot ;D

and thank you Theta!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 03-04-2011, 22:04:56
The thing you place the bayonet is in made in 1942 by F. Herder A Sn. in Solingen, Germany.

The bayonet itself is made by the company WKC (not known what it stands for, CVL was the military code for it) and by the looks of the stamps and location it seems to be 1940.

So, it's a real German made K98k Bayonet.

It does however seem to have lost its waffenambts, so it is probably grinded and reblued (explains why i looks so nice) sometime after the war.

Still a nice thing to have :)

Probably worth about 45 euro or so.

It is not a yugo bayonet since it does not have a ring to stick the barrel of the rifle true, the Germans did not use it, the yugo's did.

45 Euros? Really depends on location, give it to me and I can sell it for 75.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 03-04-2011, 22:04:23
Only an idiot would pay more for a non matching refurb. But then again, the world is full of them.

For 60 euro i bought my 1936 made bayo, including frog, all original in good condition. Matching although un serialed scrabard. The normal price for that would have been about 80.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 03-04-2011, 22:04:40
Dude! How much is shipping that stuff from Belgium to the Netherlands. Pre-war bayonet + scabbard with matching numbers.. That would be at least 100 Euros.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 03-04-2011, 22:04:32
Haha, ask theta, bayonets are for sale here by the bucket, i am serious, last fair that  i went to with him had a guy selling real, and repro, K98 bayo's in a bucket, at least 30 or so in it for both real and fake. Price was IIRC 50 for a real one, and 20 for a fake.

Internet prices and fair prices are not the same. little things like bayonets are cheaper on fairs while bigger things like rifles are cheaper online. can be up to 50% price difference sometimes.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 03-04-2011, 23:04:40
Haha, ask theta, bayonets are for sale here by the bucket, i am serious, last fair that  i went to with him had a guy selling real, and repro, K98 bayo's in a bucket, at least 30 or so in it for both real and fake. Price was IIRC 50 for a real one, and 20 for a fake.

True. pretty impressive that was.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 04-04-2011, 09:04:14
Haha, ask theta, bayonets are for sale here by the bucket, i am serious, last fair that  i went to with him had a guy selling real, and repro, K98 bayo's in a bucket, at least 30 or so in it for both real and fake. Price was IIRC 50 for a real one, and 20 for a fake.

Internet prices and fair prices are not the same. little things like bayonets are cheaper on fairs while bigger things like rifles are cheaper online. can be up to 50% price difference sometimes.
It's the opposite, as far as I have seen, here. Been to multiple militaria events/fairs/etc. and all there really is a real 'dealers' who sell it above internet price. Best deal is 'Marktplaats'..
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: MaJ.P.Bouras on 04-04-2011, 11:04:01
So were do you live theta and Siben? So that i can come in the future during one of those fairs and buy some shit :D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 04-04-2011, 11:04:52
Quite a trip from Greece, they both live in Vlaanderen (Belgium)  :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 04-04-2011, 11:04:39
easier to do with banks and mail huh? xD
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 04-04-2011, 11:04:43
So were do you live theta and Siben? So that i can come in the future during one of those fairs and buy some shit :D
Come over comerade
getting back will be difficult though trough airport security  ;)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: MaJ.P.Bouras on 04-04-2011, 11:04:00
Hmmm you are right...Gotta find the laws for this :D Maybe go back using ship. Less security there.More time though. Do they have Greek rifles?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 04-04-2011, 11:04:22
Once i saw a Mannlicher shoenaurer ye   but it was pricy
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: MaJ.P.Bouras on 04-04-2011, 11:04:05
Well then a K98 will do or something less expensive.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 04-04-2011, 11:04:27
you have to be lucky. I got a finnish nagant for example, and i payed 200 euro for it. The bolt was malfunctioning and it was not serial matched.

I went a to finnish forum who love nothing more then finnish nagants, posted pics and such, and they said that in findland it is worth atleast 350 euro
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 04-04-2011, 11:04:13
ey Thet, have you seen them good holsters for '98 bayonets? I'm lacking one xD
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 04-04-2011, 11:04:54
ey Thet, have you seen them good holsters for '98 bayonets? I'm lacking one xD
Yep  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 07-04-2011, 02:04:18
I`ll try to get pictures of my berthier up soon, and on a side note, does anybody know where I could get 5 round clips for it?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 07-04-2011, 03:04:26
http://www.gunpartscorp.com/catalog/Products.aspx?catid=1504  Bamp.  Numrich is your friend.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 07-04-2011, 04:04:33
you is ma hero!  thank you VM  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 07-04-2011, 05:04:45
You're welcome!  Though I'm wondering why my link is invisible o.=.O
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 11-04-2011, 02:04:42
My grandparents were nice enough to get me these:

(http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/4669/gb19426p.png)

Swazi:
http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/3899/ndr19392rm.png

u jelly?  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 11-04-2011, 02:04:35
I see swastika  :D

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 11-04-2011, 03:04:25
I see swastika  :D



Shit, one second.

TA-DAAAAH
(http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/5989/editndr19392rm.png)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Eat Uranium on 11-04-2011, 03:04:04
One of these days I'll get my hands on a full set of old coins.  Stacks of old pennys, a shilling, halfpenny and a half crown.  Still need a thrupenny bit, a farthing and a florin.

Not sure how you worked out that this was militaria though ::)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 11-04-2011, 03:04:22
Eh.  Should I create a thread called "Old stuff you happen to own?"  Because then a good portion of the items in my home would have to be photographed, including my home.  Besides, at least one is directly related to Nazi Germany.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 11-04-2011, 07:04:43
I see swastika  :D



IIRC, that is allowable as it is related to a historical item.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 11-04-2011, 09:04:17
I see swastika  :D



IIRC, that is allowable as it is related to a historical item.
Swatsika = swatsika. Forum mods are tired of the discussion.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 11-04-2011, 10:04:15
quickly cover it with paint

i had to do it, everyone had to do it  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 11-04-2011, 11:04:12
Nice coin, i have the exact same German one. Also have a Belgian 1934 made one. Posted pictures here last year or so, can repost on request.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 18-04-2011, 15:04:35
where to obtain WWII german jackboots/late war boots?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 18-04-2011, 16:04:42
http://www.civilwarboots.com/war_boots.asp

Enjoy :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 20-04-2011, 01:04:29
Israeli paratrooper shoulder bag.

(http://i51.tinypic.com/2qd23de.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 21-04-2011, 10:04:49
Pretty epic Warrior
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 21-04-2011, 17:04:22
(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/217128_10100317875766271_6026632_54445435_7762688_n.jpg)

An original helmet, that I just got painted and textured into a very special helmet.  It's pretty easy to guess what army this is.  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 21-04-2011, 17:04:56
Fuck yes it is a special one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtCVkiNT0Mk).  ;D

Quote
Pierwsza Dywizja, polska i pancerna
Na polach Francji poszła w krwawy bój.
Prawom człowieka i Ojczyźnie wierna,
Poszła by spełnić obowiązek swój.      

Poszły jej czołgi na krwawą rozprawę,  
Na bunkry wroga, za krakowski gród,
Za Gdańsk, za Kutno oraz za Warszawę,  
By wolnym był znów ich piastowski* ród.

Pułki pancerne, strzelcy i dragoni,    
W ogniu czołgowych i armatnich dział,  
Poszli w ataku na francuskiej błoni,  
Gdzie wróg w obronie twardym murem stał.  

Z husarskim skrzydłem na swoim ramieniu
Poszli pancerni w stali swoich wież,
By w obcym kraju, lecz w Polski imieniu
Odnieść zwycięstwa pod Jort i Falaise.  

Na polach Belgii i w murach Gandawy,
Gdy ich do boju wezwał wojny zew,
Za wolność innych i dla obcej sprawy
Oddali życie i przelali krew.
 
Poszli pancerni do Axel i Bredy,  
By na swym szlaku niezliczonych dróg  
Walczyć pod Emmen i na brzegach Ledy
I w Wilhelmshaven spłacić polski dług.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Kading on 21-04-2011, 20:04:21
http://www.civilwarboots.com/war_boots.asp

Enjoy :P

These are cheaper...
http://www.hessenantique.com/Footwear_s/96.htm

$180 is about the best price you can get on good jackboots of the WW2 pattern. As you can see, they can go up to $300. The super expensive ones WILL last you as long as 10 years, but they are super expensive.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Pascucci the Whiner on 21-04-2011, 23:04:32
At the Front has their lowboots on sale for $60. I replaced the hobnails on mine with originals and they work nice now.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 21-04-2011, 23:04:25
At the Front has their lowboots on sale for $60. I replaced the hobnails on mine with originals and they work nice now.


Their lowboots are crap though.  They fall apart like mad, even if you replace the hobnails.  I know one guy, who on a hot day, lost both of his heels.  The glue literally melted completly.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 25-04-2011, 15:04:51
Mah recently earnings=

My vesh-meshok russian backpack
(http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/5099/20042011037.jpg)
(http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/8516/20042011038.jpg)
(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4920/20042011040.jpg)
How to operate it=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ax5rH55bo04&feature=related

My 1960 Belgian army Gasmask
(http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/2774/25042011041.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: ksl94 on 30-05-2011, 22:05:14
Another place for good quality german eqiumpent (including boots) is epic militaria, they also got a lot of alllied stuff, quite a lot of choice  :P

Besides, something I'd just like to know, Is the British Battle Dress (and the equipment that was issued with it, e.g. canteens, holsters) compatible with the American M1936 Webbing gear ?
I know the question is kind of weird, but I already have the belt (M1936) and I think of getting a reproduction
British Battle Dress, and if I buy the package (tunic, trousers, webbing gear) it's going to cost me ca. 325 USD,
and I'd like to economize as much money as I can.  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 30-05-2011, 23:05:14
Nope, its not.  You need either a US uniform, or british P-37 webbing.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: ksl94 on 30-05-2011, 23:05:55
Thanks for the quick reply!
Then I'll better go shopping now...  8)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 04-06-2011, 14:06:11
Me and siben went to waver
Gunswise, it was average. Saw one epic perfect condition springfield 1903, but the guy was a rip-of and asked 1300 euro for it

My loot=
-3 German NATO gun cleaning kits for 2.5 euro each!(Just checked internetz=5 euro each at least!)
-One Schmidt rubin K31 cleaning kit for 10 euro. (Ebay and such=10-20-30 euro)
-One AK-74 Cleaning kit= ONE EURO!
-One Perfect condition GP-5 russian gasmask with new filter and carrying bag=10 euro
(I bargained with the german seller and gave me huge discounts)
-One steel ABL helmet with Flaktarn cover 25 euro
-One Flare stick

Pics soon
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: nephros on 04-06-2011, 23:06:35
Finally got my SMLE.
1917 LSA, non-matching. I believe the barrel is original as I can't find a date stamped on it anywhere.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/apelph/SMLE.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/apelph/SMLEreceiver-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 05-06-2011, 00:06:50
Its a NoIII, does it still have the cut off? :O
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 05-06-2011, 00:06:29
Looking at the picture i can say no.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 05-06-2011, 00:06:00
actually, me and siben dint really did much at the militaria fair

Les beau mademoiselles at Wavre distracted us much

Siben  IIRC you got also a K31 cleaning kit amiright?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 05-06-2011, 00:06:46
actually, me and siben dint really did much at the militaria fair

Les beau mademoiselles at Wavre distracted us much

Siben  IIRC you got also a K31 cleaning kit amiright?

Yes i did, just for the heck of it.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 05-06-2011, 00:06:13
actually, me and siben dint really did much at the militaria fair

Les beau mademoiselles at Wavre distracted us much

Siben  IIRC you got also a K31 cleaning kit amiright?

Yes i did, just for the heck of it.
I have saw prices on se internets ranging from 15-20-30 euros

btw open the grease pots
and smell that  ;D

YOU SMELL THAT?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 05-06-2011, 00:06:38
actually, me and siben dint really did much at the militaria fair

Les beau mademoiselles at Wavre distracted us much

Siben  IIRC you got also a K31 cleaning kit amiright?

Yes i did, just for the heck of it.
I have saw prices on se internets ranging from 15-20-30 euros

btw open the grease pots
and smell that  ;D

YOU SMELL THAT?

Yeah, and the smell is still in my fingers after washing my hands, that stuff is nasty.

Yet, i have the urge to smell them again, it's like it is calling me....
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Heinrich (Mr.Uniwersum_GER) on 05-06-2011, 01:06:58
I also have some nice stuff  :)
(http://i54.tinypic.com/1zoagbn.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 05-06-2011, 01:06:12
I also have some nice stuff  :)
(http://i55.tinypic.com/33xgeab.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GHX8dvuFUQ
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Heinrich (Mr.Uniwersum_GER) on 05-06-2011, 01:06:23
 ;D thats funny THeTA0123
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 05-06-2011, 01:06:52
;D thats funny THeTA0123
it does my heart joy to see those 2 pieces well preserved!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Heinrich (Mr.Uniwersum_GER) on 05-06-2011, 01:06:22
The stg44 thats my airsoftgun und next to that thats my mg 53
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: nephros on 05-06-2011, 01:06:38
Don't know how to look for cutoff. I have a reference book for the no.4, but not for the no.1 enfields.

Not sure what to make of this - on the wrist of the No1 MkIII. Looks like a broad arrow over 3 lines, but very rough. Field armorer's mark perhaps? You can see the original armory mark closer to the trigger guard.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/apelph/SMLEwrist.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 05-06-2011, 07:06:37
The stg44 thats my airsoftgun und next to that thats my mg 53

MG53 blank fire or the real deal?   If the real thing how much would you part with it for?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 05-06-2011, 11:06:19
Don't know how to look for cutoff. I have a reference book for the no.4, but not for the no.1 enfields.

Not sure what to make of this - on the wrist of the No1 MkIII. Looks like a broad arrow over 3 lines, but very rough. Field armorer's mark perhaps? You can see the original armory mark closer to the trigger guard.

[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/apelph/SMLEwrist.jpg
It is the government acceptance mark. Every official British army object has them. Yours seems to be cut with a knife, could have been anyone who did that.

Cutoff is on the right side in the rifle above the magazine, it cuts of the bullet fed to the rifle, you have to pull it out to be able to shoot. See it as an extra safety. The pictures you showed do not have them on it. Your weapon was prepared to receive one though, you can see a semi cut groove where is it seposed to be above the wood/magazine on the right side.

Eventhough your rifle is still seen as a SMLE III and not then III* it appears to be basicly a III*

It was one if the features that where not put on the rifles in WW1 production, they reintroduced them again after the war, until 1939.

Also, GR stands for Georgius Rex (King George V) meaning it was made between 1911-1936 (not that it matters with the date 1917 stamped in it :p)

LSA stands for London Small Arms Co. Ltd.

ShtLe III stands for Short magazine Lee enfield III. They did not call it the No1 Mk3 back then like we do now.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 05-06-2011, 12:06:10
Silly question, how much does the 1903A3 go for in the states? Price difference between manufacturers?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Heinrich (Mr.Uniwersum_GER) on 05-06-2011, 12:06:58
The stg44 thats my airsoftgun und next to that thats my mg 53

MG53 blank fire or the real deal?   If the real thing how much would you part with it for?


I can´t understand all of your sentences, but the MG53 a real deactivated gun so you can´t shoot it anymore :-[
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 05-06-2011, 16:06:00
Silly question, how much does the 1903A3 go for in the states? Price difference between manufacturers?

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=233825489
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=233128610
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=232357530

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/SearchResults.aspx?SearchType=0&Timeframe=0&Keywords=Springfield+1903&Cat=2323&Items=50
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 05-06-2011, 17:06:38
Decided to finally take some pics of my various militaria.

First of all, here is all my reenacting gear laid out on a t-shirt.  I left out my clothes, cause I didn't think anybody would be too interested in a white shirt and some corduroys.
(http://i1083.photobucket.com/albums/j388/PyjamaShark/_1010138.jpg)


My Rifle, a Berthier m-1916 Carbine

(http://i1083.photobucket.com/albums/j388/PyjamaShark/_1010154.jpg)
(http://i1083.photobucket.com/albums/j388/PyjamaShark/_1010131.jpg)

(http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/2664/1010153o.jpg)

ww2 French binoculars
(http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/5199/1010135q.jpg)

My helmet.
(http://img807.imageshack.us/img807/2539/1010134.jpg)

Canteen, binoculars, and my cap.
(http://i1083.photobucket.com/albums/j388/PyjamaShark/_1010136.jpg)

Armband.
(http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/3457/1010155c.jpg)

Grenade
(http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/4178/1010139.jpg)

Ammo boots
(http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/4716/1010133.jpg)

RAF Pistol webbing belt
(http://i1083.photobucket.com/albums/j388/PyjamaShark/_1010137.jpg)


And some various other stuff that I own:
an SS cap
(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3312/1010146o.jpg)

and an NVA pith helmet
(http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/5240/1010147t.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 06-06-2011, 00:06:15
The stg44 thats my airsoftgun und next to that thats my mg 53

MG53 blank fire or the real deal?   If the real thing how much would you part with it for?


I can´t understand all of your sentences, but the MG53 a real deactivated gun so you can´t shoot it anymore :-[

http://www.brpguns.com/categories/Parts-and-Kits-Web-Store/MG42-Semi-Auto/

Time to get that bad boy working again!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: GuinNess on 13-06-2011, 17:06:45
I think it's time to post my treasure. It's an Original MP44, no replica and not deactivated. I don't know the story of it because I got it from a familymember who got it himself by a friend and so on.
Enjoy
(http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/3084/mp44001.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/696/mp44001.png/)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 13-06-2011, 18:06:13
that is rather very nice my lucky friend, congrats, keep good care of it.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 13-06-2011, 18:06:17
.....


WAT
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 13-06-2011, 18:06:14
I guess you could sell that Tommy Gun now?  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: GuinNess on 13-06-2011, 18:06:21
I guess you could sell that Tommy Gun now?  ;D

Deal, i'm annyways planning on buying a real tommy gun ;)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 13-06-2011, 18:06:19
Its not a deac?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: GuinNess on 13-06-2011, 18:06:20
Its not a deac?

What? MP44 or my Tommy? The tommys I own are deactivated but the one i'm planning to buy is working. only 1400 €
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 13-06-2011, 18:06:10
Oh.

I meant the Tommy Gun. I thought it was deactivated. But when you say you are planning on buying a "real" tommy, it makes me think you have a replica instead of a deac. Misunderstanding. :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 13-06-2011, 20:06:32
I think it's time to post my treasure. It's an Original MP44, no replica and not deactivated. I don't know the story of it because I got it from a familymember who got it himself by a friend and so on.
Enjoy
(http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/3084/mp44001.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/696/mp44001.png/)
ELLO mah petit choufleur! Dinner pour 2? Candelight?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 16-06-2011, 19:06:34
Need a fast reply, what do you guys think, should i buy or not, how much would you give, its a springfield 1903.

(http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/5622/pict0395b.jpg)
(http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/184/pict0396h.jpg)
(http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/1117/pict0397ga.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: azreal on 16-06-2011, 19:06:51
Does it shoot?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: GuinNess on 16-06-2011, 20:06:37
If it shoots, I would give 700-1000 €
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 16-06-2011, 20:06:35
How much is it going for?  Looks pretty beaten up, but can be fixed up.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 16-06-2011, 23:06:53
Asking price is 650, but there are other sharks out there so could go up. Yes, its a shooter. Metal looks reblued, the rest looks ok. Is numbers matching.

I am interested, but not sure yet. not really 100% correct like my other rifles (ok, not counting the nagant rifle, but thats just a toy)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 16-06-2011, 23:06:58
i dunno siben, my theta alert is going off
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 16-06-2011, 23:06:09
i dunno siben, my theta alert is going off

I know theta, but do you have any idea how hard it is to find a 1903, any model, here? Remember that 1903A3 that went for 1350 euro last month? I can still hear the guy saying mille trois cent cinquante with a smile on his face. last summer i found a guy selling 3 of those for a quarter of that, it's so random sometimes, sometimes its a gamble, should i buy or not.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 16-06-2011, 23:06:45
i dunno siben, my theta alert is going off

I know theta, but do you have any idea how hard it is to find a 1903, any model, here? Remember that 1903A3 that went for 1350 euro last month?
true true

if you really want a Springfield, then you should go for it on your own judgement. perhaps you can find a good wooden stock someday. i dunno
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 17-06-2011, 00:06:12
630 Euro?  That's not bad IIRC.  I'd pick it up if I had the money :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: IrishReloaded on 18-06-2011, 17:06:58
can someone tell me waht this is?

(http://www.abload.de/img/p7030419e7w2.jpg)
Its in the Munster Tank museum in a vitrine with all types of helmets. But what exactly is this
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Steel_Lion_FIN on 18-06-2011, 18:06:50
My uneducated guess: WW1 tanker helmet without the steel net visor.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 19-06-2011, 16:06:27
My newly bought shit.
Mostly for airsofting, there is some patches missing, like the arm eagle, my mind says yes yes yes, but my wallet says no no no :/

water bottle is on the way postal ^^

The boots are East German Wachbatallion boots, wich we over here consider a waaaaay better buy than the ATF boots and so on. (go away mudra.) Allso norway is very up and down, hills and rocky. the rubbersole is extremly superior

currently using norwegian M77 boots for the gaiters, looks just as good if you dot have the money to buy a pair of lowboots!

i was supriced of the quality from this china shop, the fabric is actually better than SOFmilitary's (sturdy and good looking and 1/3 of the price) (www.hikishop.com)

the buttons could have been better, but thats an easy fix.

the gasmask canister as good, but the spraypaint lights up like a lightning bolt in the sun.. must have new spraypaint.

overall its a good kit! Re-enactment in Poland in August here i come!

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00098-1.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00097-1.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00096-1.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00095-1.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00094-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 19-06-2011, 18:06:37
What do you mean "go away mudra"???

I use wachbatallion jackboots too.  And ATF boots are pieces of junk unfit for human consumption |:  I know one guy who not only lost almost all his hobs on the first battle, on the 2nd one, the heels literally fell off cuz the glue melted.

Also, hiki is good, but spearhead militaria is just as cheap, and has superior quality camo...actually the best on the market.  Don't buy their wools though, they're shit.

Also, I highly suggest working on a prussian pinch for your hat (just wet it with water, pinch the front, around the skull, and keep it like that.  Do until it holds that shape).
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 19-06-2011, 18:06:17
My newly bought shit.
Mostly for airsofting, there is some patches missing, like the arm eagle, my mind says yes yes yes, but my wallet says no no no :/

water bottle is on the way postal ^^

The boots are East German Wachbatallion boots, wich we over here consider a waaaaay better buy than the ATF boots and so on. (go away mudra.) Allso norway is very up and down, hills and rocky. the rubbersole is extremly superior

currently using norwegian M77 boots for the gaiters, looks just as good if you dot have the money to buy a pair of lowboots!

i was supriced of the quality from this china shop, the fabric is actually better than SOFmilitary's (sturdy and good looking and 1/3 of the price) (www.hikishop.com)

the buttons could have been better, but thats an easy fix.

the gasmask canister as good, but the spraypaint lights up like a lightning bolt in the sun.. must have new spraypaint.

overall its a good kit! Re-enactment in Poland in August here i come!


I saw some very epic Reenactment airsofters last sunday. But they had to remove SS logo"s and swastikas, because of the many german players that day
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Pascucci the Whiner on 19-06-2011, 18:06:41
I know alot of people use hikishop down here and like it. I also know most people would take Wacht boots over ATF boots any day. I think you're doing fine and off to a good start. Feldgrau is always better than Dot 44 though, it's more sexy when you have collar litzen.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 19-06-2011, 19:06:27
What do you mean "go away mudra"???

Also, I highly suggest working on a prussian pinch for your hat (just wet it with water, pinch the front, around the skull, and keep it like that.  Do until it holds that shape).

sorry about it then, im just used to you being the "epic 100% correct re-enactor :( *hug*

but, please explain more what you mean here, "prussian pinch" first of all, i dont know what a pinch is  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 19-06-2011, 19:06:55
(http://www.lostbattalions.com/Resources/Pix/M43-5.jpg)

(http://www.lostbattalions.com/Resources/Pix/M43-3.jpg)

It is "pinched" on the sides around the insignia.  This was a simply case of fashion, the officer's crusher caps had that pinch, as you do not handle visor caps by the visor, it ruins the leather gloss.  Instead, you would hold the back of the cap, and pinch the front of the cap, to put it on.  The enlisted men started seeing it, the fashion caught on, and pretty soon, it was almost impossible to find M43 caps that did not have that pinch.  The "prussian pinch" is a play on the fact that it was from the officers, or traditionally, the "prussians" ;)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 19-06-2011, 19:06:08
oh, sweet ill do this for the m43 filedgrey one, not the camo.. its to nice to look at as it is  ;D

allso gonna buy a FJ uniform from spearhead at a later time! :) maaaybe i can joina renactment week in the staes mudra? ehh eeeehh ?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 21-06-2011, 19:06:14
This is the best find i did in weeks, to bad i don't have the money and that automatic weapons are illegal...

http://www.hza-kulmbach.de/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=45&Itemid=60&lang=en
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Musti on 21-06-2011, 19:06:22
SILVER STG!
damn!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 21-06-2011, 20:06:53
Something I promised to take pictures of for CPS several weeks ago, but only now got the time to upload and post:

(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/263749_1760593545582_1561363715_31402424_758541_n.jpg)

(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/251345_1760596225649_1561363715_31402427_4831257_n.jpg)

French adrian helmet.  It was my great grandfathers on my grandmas side, who fought in WW1.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 22-06-2011, 23:06:31
The loveliest style of helmet!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 22-06-2011, 23:06:49
Very sorry I didn't upload them sooner!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 02-07-2011, 15:07:16
Today i went to siben to waver=the monthly militaria fair

At first=i was Aw yeah!
Then=FFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
and then=AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWW YEEAAAHHH

I first found a authentic MOTHER RUSSIA SOVIET FLAG for 5 euro!

THEN! i found a Berthier rifle, ML1907/15!!!!! FOR ONLY 300 euro! Serial matched, in very good condition AND with a bajonet for 20 euro! a very cool find. I saw berthier rifles before, they all costed 600 euro to 1000 euro in the same condition!
AW yeah!

Then came the FFUUUUUUUUUUU. Remeber that i was searching for epic Berthier Carbine and Carcano carbine?
Guess what was one table further....but ye, i already bought this Berthier and dint had enough for the other ones. The Berthier and Carcano costed 300 each aswel.
Now later on, it dint matterd. As the berthier carbine i found was the Carbine Mle 1892. I am searching for the Carbine Mle 1892 M16. Wich had a 5 round magazine.

But the carcano was the one i wanted=MMoschetto da Cavalleria Mod. 91 with folding bajonet. this one was also rechamberd to 7.35mm. But that made me doubt now.

The last AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW YEAH came when, i found=
EPIC RUSSIAN ARMEH VDV airborne outfit=Jacket, berret, pants and typical striped shirt. On the internet, i searched and came with a price=250 euro. I only bought this one, for 100 EURO!
together with GLORIOUS RPK, i am so gonna shine at next airborne event

Pics are coming soon of the loot. i first have to pick somebody up and get bread
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 02-07-2011, 17:07:51
Christ that was difficult to read.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Pascucci the Whiner on 02-07-2011, 21:07:15
Today i went to siben to waver=the monthly militaria fair

At first=i was Aw yeah!
Then=FFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
and then=AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWW YEEAAAHHH

I first found a authentic MOTHER RUSSIA SOVIET FLAG for 5 euro!

THEN! i found a Berthier rifle, ML1907/15!!!!! FOR ONLY 300 euro! Serial matched, in very good condition AND with a bajonet for 20 euro! a very cool find. I saw berthier rifles before, they all costed 600 euro to 1000 euro in the same condition!
AW yeah!

Then came the FFUUUUUUUUUUU. Remeber that i was searching for epic Berthier Carbine and Carcano carbine?
Guess what was one table further....but ye, i already bought this Berthier and dint had enough for the other ones. The Berthier and Carcano costed 300 each aswel.
Now later on, it dint matterd. As the berthier carbine i found was the Carbine Mle 1892. I am searching for the Carbine Mle 1892 M16. Wich had a 5 round magazine.

But the carcano was the one i wanted=MMoschetto da Cavalleria Mod. 91 with folding bajonet. this one was also rechamberd to 7.35mm. But that made me doubt now.

The last AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW YEAH came when, i found=
EPIC RUSSIAN ARMEH VDV airborne outfit=Jacket, berret, pants and typical striped shirt. On the internet, i searched and came with a price=250 euro. I only bought this one, for 100 EURO!
together with GLORIOUS RPK, i am so gonna shine at next airborne event

Pics are coming soon of the loot. i first have to pick somebody up and get bread

OK :|.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: luftwaffe.be on 02-07-2011, 21:07:31
I think theta is on steroids :/
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 02-07-2011, 21:07:23
the new version=

got a berthier MLE 1916 for 300 euro. they normally cost more. also bajonet
got a russian soviet flag(authenthic not reproduction) for 5 euro
got a Russian army flora VDV uniform. Jacket, striped undershirt, pants and Typical blue beret for 100 euro

pictures coming soon
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 02-07-2011, 23:07:39
the new version=

got a berthier MLE 1916 for 300 euro. they normally cost more. also bajonet
got a russian soviet flag(authenthic not reproduction) for 5 euro
got a Russian army flora VDV uniform. Jacket, striped undershirt, pants and Typical blue beret for 100 euro

pictures coming soon


Awesome |:
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 03-07-2011, 11:07:43
I got myself a pointy sick for the nagant rifle.
(http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/3156/imag0271sz.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 03-07-2011, 11:07:11
I need to get myself one of those too. And also a bayonet for SVT.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Pascucci the Whiner on 03-07-2011, 17:07:10
I need to get myself one of those too. And also a bayonet for SVT.

I have 10 of them :|. I need an SVT-40 :D!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 03-07-2011, 17:07:21
have some photo's

The berthier rifle
(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/1837/stuff011j.jpg)
(http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/255/stuff012c.jpg)
(http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/9025/stuff013.jpg)
(http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/1318/stuff016o.jpg)


Mah epic 5 euro authenthic Soviet Russia Hammer and sickle parade flag
(http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/7352/stuff019.jpg)

My VDV Flora uniform
(http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/4491/stuff023.jpg)
(http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/5859/stuff021.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 03-07-2011, 19:07:11

I have 10 of them :|

I only need 1. And I could get it for 35€ anytime I want but havent bothered getting it yet. Should do it at some point. SVT bayonets are expensive thought. :/
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 06-07-2011, 13:07:24
I have a question, what do you guys think about the L1A1 rifle? (basicly a british fn fal in imperial sizes) I know one for sale, in 'new' condition for 550 and i am considering to buy it...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L1A1_Self-Loading_Rifle
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 06-07-2011, 15:07:02
I think it's a beauty, the FAL is very nice but the L1A1 got this little bit extra by just being a semi-auto.. Stuck in the past.

From a friend I heard they are very popular on Dutch shooting ranges. So at least they are well liked by shooters.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Pascucci the Whiner on 06-07-2011, 16:07:24

I have 10 of them :|

I only need 1. And I could get it for 35€ anytime I want but havent bothered getting it yet. Should do it at some point. SVT bayonets are expensive thought. :/

If you were in the US I'd sell you one for the price of shipping, lol. SVT-40 bayonets go for about $200-$300 here at the lowest  :o.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 08-07-2011, 00:07:50
I have a question, what do you guys think about the L1A1 rifle? (basicly a british fn fal in imperial sizes) I know one for sale, in 'new' condition for 550 and i am considering to buy it...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L1A1_Self-Loading_Rifle
i can ask advice to the leader of my airsoft team. He owns a Argentine FAL now, used a fal in conscript days and has tonnes of books about them
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sheikyerbouti on 08-07-2011, 10:07:28
I have a question, what do you guys think about the L1A1 rifle? (basicly a british fn fal in imperial sizes) I know one for sale, in 'new' condition for 550 and i am considering to buy it...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L1A1_Self-Loading_Rifle

 As a cadet, I put about 5 thousand rounds downrange with the canadian version (C1A1) and I have to say it is still my favourite rifle of all time. It shoots very true, has a decent pinsight, easy to clean, and almostly completely indestructible. I absolutely love it as a weapon but it is highly restricted in Canada, if it were legal for me to own, I would have at least two of them. Parts and gunsmith knowledge for the weapon are readily available so you could keep your new baby in perfect shape (for cheap).

 The only thing i hated was the handle if it was still fitted. my preference was using a combat sling for aim and comfortable carrying.

 i am jealous of your belgian laws sometimes,
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 08-07-2011, 10:07:41
Semi auto FAL's are legal to own yes. my airsoft leader has one. Epic weapon
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 09-07-2011, 00:07:47
My berthier will soon be fully kitted out with blanks and slings and such, and then I shall be ready to take on the German and drive them from France!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 09-07-2011, 00:07:35
My berthier will soon be fully kitted out with blanks and slings and such, and then I shall be ready to take on the German and drive them from France!
Oui oui mon ami!

Im so getting a berthier carbine aswel :) the berthier rifle is very epic, but the carbine is JUST hands DOWN
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 09-07-2011, 13:07:53
So a gunsmith said he thinks my berthier is unsafe to fire with bullets, but fine with blanks.  I'm hoping this does not lead to my death.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 09-07-2011, 14:07:53
So a gunsmith said he thinks my berthier is unsafe to fire with bullets, but fine with blanks.  I'm hoping this does not lead to my death.
hm why does he say that? is the reciever in bad condition? or the wood?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 09-07-2011, 15:07:10
My Gew98 is that way.  Was it the headspacing?  You CAN get that fixed, but it costs quite a lot :(
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 09-07-2011, 16:07:58
So a gunsmith said he thinks my berthier is unsafe to fire with bullets, but fine with blanks.  I'm hoping this does not lead to my death.
hm why does he say that? is the reciever in bad condition? or the wood?
the wood has some cracks, i'll post a picture or too.  the gunsmith says he didn't want to put a round downrange with it cause of safety, but he said he would fire blanks with it if he had them. 
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Ciupita on 09-07-2011, 17:07:55
well, you use blanks in reenacting so what's the point?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 09-07-2011, 17:07:51
yeah, so it's all good.  I'm just a tad worried if the gunsmith is wrong and my gun explodes and damages my beautiful face.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Ciupita on 09-07-2011, 17:07:14
yeah, so it's all good.  I'm just a tad worried if the gunsmith is wrong and my gun explodes and damages my beautiful face.

buy blanks and let him fire it couple time first...
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 10-07-2011, 02:07:25
yeah, so it's all good.  I'm just a tad worried if the gunsmith is wrong and my gun explodes and damages my beautiful face.

As long as there is no obstruction in the bore and the gun is not made out paper you should be fine.  Man up Pip and shoot the fucking thing already (with blanks  ;) ).
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Eat Uranium on 10-07-2011, 02:07:52
If you're really that scared of it, why not clamp the gun somewhere then attach a long string to the trigger and fire it remotely.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 10-07-2011, 03:07:07
If you're really that scared of it, why not clamp the gun somewhere then attach a long string to the trigger and fire it remotely.

You wanna have a priceless antique gun that you spent hundreds of dollars on blow up, go right ahead.

And yes CPS, it'll be fine with blanks.  Blanks put no pressure on the gun :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Eat Uranium on 10-07-2011, 03:07:23
You wanna have a priceless antique gun that you spent hundreds of dollars on blow up, go right ahead.
I'm not quite sure how you arrived at the conclusion that pulling a trigger with string rather than a finger will cause an instant explosion :-\

I figured it would be obvious I was talking about firing blanks (something that CPS seemed reluctant to try).  Not obvious for some people though ::)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 10-07-2011, 03:07:20
You wanna have a priceless antique gun that you spent hundreds of dollars on blow up, go right ahead.
I'm not quite sure how you arrived at the conclusion that pulling a trigger with string rather than a finger will cause an instant explosion :-\

I figured it would be obvious I was talking about firing blanks (something that CPS seemed reluctant to try).  Not obvious for some people though ::)

Thought you meant firing a live round xD

Anyways, like I said, him firing blanks will be no problem
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 10-07-2011, 04:07:34
Well, I am gonna go fire it, first I just need blanks, haha.  Ordered them from Atlantic Wall, not a bad price.  And they are in the same state so speedy delivery! Thank you for reassuring me lads/Ciupita.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Eat Uranium on 10-07-2011, 04:07:16
Remember, make sure not to say "watch this" before trying it out!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 10-07-2011, 04:07:01
I almost convinced my Asian friend to do the testing for me.  But I am a good person.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 10-07-2011, 06:07:46
I almost convinced my Asian friend to do the testing for me.  But I am a good person.

Asians are cheap Pip.  Do it if it sets your mind at ease.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 10-07-2011, 06:07:58
Well, I am gonna go fire it, first I just need blanks, haha.  Ordered them from Atlantic Wall, not a bad price.  And they are in the same state so speedy delivery! Thank you for reassuring me lads/Ciupita.

Atlantic wall blanks are good, and amoung the best prices you'll find now ideas.  Steer clear of swanson, his blanks are fine, but expensive as all shit :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 12-07-2011, 15:07:29
Original Luger holster i got from my sneaky long fingered grandfather!

WaA 186

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00117.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00118.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00119.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00120.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 12-07-2011, 17:07:43
awesome as hell
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 13-07-2011, 21:07:46
I HAVE NEW WEAPON

He who guesses it right, gets a theta dollar

Vonmudra and siben cannot participate, because they already know it

Btw, it is NOT a carcano NOR a french rifle
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 13-07-2011, 21:07:53
1917 Enfield?  Springfield?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Butcher on 13-07-2011, 21:07:18
I HAVE NEW WEAPON

He who guesses it right, gets a theta dollar

Vonmudra and siben cannot participate, because they already know it

Btw, it is NOT a carcano NOR a french rifle
noisy cricket?

(http://static.desktopnexus.com/thumbnails/70082-bigthumbnail.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 13-07-2011, 21:07:42
Its from europe, the design is origenally german, it was used extremely little as a military aid, but the nation who used these rifles, did NOT participated in combat in ww2
(it is also not in FH2)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Ciupita on 13-07-2011, 21:07:52
Its from europe, the design is origenally german, it was used extremely little as a military aid, but the nation who used these rifles, did NOT participated in combat in ww2
(it is also not in FH2)

Swedish Mauser. Where is my dollar?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: MaJ.P.Bouras on 13-07-2011, 21:07:15
Something from Switzerland then
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 13-07-2011, 21:07:07
Its from europe, the design is origenally german, it was used extremely little as a military aid, but the nation who used these rifles, did NOT participated in combat in ww2
(it is also not in FH2)

Swedish Mauser. Where is my dollar?

Hahahahahaha, nice one ! Pay up TheTa!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 13-07-2011, 21:07:37
Ciupita is winner and will recieve one theta dollar

The rifle, is a Swedish mauser. its the m/96 Long Rifle. (6,5 mm Gevär m/96) . The rifle is an mauser Model 1893 with many improvements and the calibre is 6.5x55mm. The rifle i have is one made in 1915. It was issued to either the Swedish Home Guard ( Hemvärnet) or sold as a civilian rifle. The reason for this, is that the Home guard rifles and Civilian rifles, where not standard equipped with a cleaning rod, the little round metal thing on the buttplate on the Right side of the rifle, and a bit of thread on the end of the rifle for training practise with wooden bullets(was a special adaptor).

The advantage is, is that my swedish mauser is in PERFECT condition. Also serial matched. The wood is in perfect condition, the bolt everything. Not even scratches! The barrel seems to be barely fired. The gun dealer even thinks it never was fired.
I payed 300 euro for it. But it was much worth it. He had 7 swedish mausers, and because i bought a gun safe, he trew in the rifle for 300 euro, where he asked for the other rifles 400 500 and for one even 670 euro. Im a pretty good client of him yes :) (everything is completly legal, this rifle is on the list of "Free weapons)

(http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/9462/stuffand056.jpg)

(http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/7292/stuffand057.jpg)
you can see the condition of the wood here very well. it is the same everywhere

(http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/7179/stuffand058.jpg)

(http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/8539/stuffand063.jpg)

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Smiles on 13-07-2011, 23:07:54
It looks cleaner than my guitar :-\ sure its legit?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 14-07-2011, 00:07:27
Considering there's no such thing as repro-swedish mausers...it's pretty legit.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 14-07-2011, 08:07:18
Gee Theta, you sure the tree the stock is made out of wasn't watered by the fountain of youth?

Great find!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 14-07-2011, 14:07:23
The reason for this, is because this rifle was always very well maintained. If a rifle"s wood is properly maintained with rineseed oil, you betcha you'r wood will look like sharp for dozens of years

And its legit yes. I have an identification paper of Liege testing bank aswel, confirming the rifle's authencity and that it is a "Free" weapon or "Gunrack" weapon. As long as i dont buy ammo,i am allowed to has this epic swedish craftsmanship
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 14-07-2011, 14:07:51
epic swedish craftsmanship

Cannot compute.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 14-07-2011, 15:07:07
epic swedish craftsmanship

Cannot compute.
im sorry   but what does that mean?  ;D

english failure here
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Pascucci the Whiner on 14-07-2011, 15:07:45
epic swedish craftsmanship

Cannot compute.
im sorry   but what does that mean?  ;D

english failure here

It means, cannot compute :|.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 14-07-2011, 15:07:28
oh well


anyway, prices vary of the Swedish mauser. US it can fetch around 125-400-500 dollar. In belgium it is not very common, never saw one exept the one of my mate. But prices do seem to linger around 250 for a normal condition, and 300-400 to even 600 for excellent condition Swedish mausers.

In sweden..well appearntly they trow you to death with these weapons. but GL gething one over the border

Ammo is however, very common here. Once i get my license, i might start shooting with it. It is very favored amongst sharpshooters, because of its excellent accuracy
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 14-07-2011, 20:07:12
(http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/6905/bild1493.jpg)

My collection so far
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 14-07-2011, 23:07:43
My Berthier holds more bullets than yours.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 14-07-2011, 23:07:05
And what will you do with all those rifles?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: MaJ.P.Bouras on 14-07-2011, 23:07:17
Stare and masturbate
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 14-07-2011, 23:07:26
And what will you do with all those rifles?
or fight in the upcoming Belgian Civil War.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 15-07-2011, 00:07:59
Or own pieces of history and occasionally use them for recreational sporting activities like target shooting.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Musti on 15-07-2011, 01:07:53
Knowing Theta he will need them when his victims come seeking revenge.
And what a nice collection! Does Belgian law allow to own a semi-auto?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 15-07-2011, 15:07:21
And what will you do with all those rifles?
or fight in the upcoming Belgian Civil War.
This^

Or own pieces of history and occasionally use them for recreational sporting activities like target shooting.
And ^this very soon. Well 6 months i will have my license. I will go target shooting my russian nagant and my Swedish mauser. As the munition is cheap and my rifles are the best condition

Knowing Theta he will need them when his victims come seeking revenge.
And what a nice collection! Does Belgian law allow to own a semi-auto?
All dem German biased folks? DEAD!

Yes. But for a semi auto you will need a license.It issent very difficult to get one, But it will take 6 months at least.
This includes Sub machineguns. They can be used, but they have to be converted to semi-auto
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Lupin on 16-07-2011, 07:07:04
Thread about military weapons and gear? Alright.

These are just the weapons in my bedroom. There's about a dozen more guns littered throughout the house and in the safe.

Walther P1 + 4 extra mags
Lee Enfield No4 (savage) Scope is on a non-modifying mount, nothing was damaged or drilled during installation, original sights are fully preserved and can be reattached in minutes. Extra emphasis on this part.
Yugoslavian SKS, with the rifle grenade attachment -of course- (just got it today). I'm one of the lucky gits that can fit 11 rounds into the 10 round magazine, with no extra effort.  8)
Kabar tanto (real deal)

520 9mm rounds, 640 7.62x39 rounds, 40 303 rounds (in my web gear).
(http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/3892/35227276.jpg)

I've got around 80 pounds of combat gear and uniforms in here, and probably another 250 pounds of "obsolete" gear in storage, but I'll spare you guys from having to look at all of that. That and it's a pain to resort when I take it all out.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 16-07-2011, 08:07:18
Zombies?

BRRINNG it ooon!!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 16-07-2011, 09:07:20
Since everyone seems to be posting their collection pics, I thought I'd show an updated picture of the deactivated guns I've got literally hanging around...

(http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/994/therack.jpg)

If anyone wants specific picture set of any of the guns, let me know via PM and I'll get you a package.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 16-07-2011, 09:07:54
Daddy kriegbar! This is my boyfriend!

"Oh hello .. let us go to the dining room while passing my Wall of Guns"
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 20-07-2011, 22:07:50
Ok guys. i MIGHT will be able soon, to aquire myself a excellent condition Swedish M/94-14 carbine

(https://www.libertytreecollectors.com/productcart/pc/catalog/DSC03723.JPG)

I know a buyer who has it reserved for someone, but he issent sure that he will go trough with the purchase. In wich i will get first pick

Question is........how much would i give?
The rifle is in pretty much the condition as the picture above. Serial matched. Production date is 1917
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 20-07-2011, 22:07:42
The bastard child of a Springfield and SMLE?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 20-07-2011, 22:07:57
Already gave you my answer on steamchat...the only one on gunbroker is starting at 850 bucks |:
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 21-07-2011, 02:07:11
obviosuly those things are batshite insane expensine in the states Mudra  :P

back here those rifles aint worth shit
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 21-07-2011, 02:07:41
The normal swede mausers here are cheaper than K98ks, about the same as the K31s and yugo mausers....  Only things cheaper are mosins.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 21-07-2011, 16:07:57
Where did you find it theta?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 21-07-2011, 16:07:30
Where did you find it theta?
On site
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 21-07-2011, 19:07:20
Theta tells no secrets, when he pursues a gun  ;)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 21-07-2011, 19:07:40
Add was down. Gun was sold :(
Price= 450 Euro
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: luftwaffe.be on 21-07-2011, 22:07:58
Ok , I've got some more stuff to show you guys. At the place I found the musketball, I've found two more this spring (had been to lazy to upload those, but because I wanted to show you my major discovery today, take these as an extra  ;) )

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/John1987/DSC00866.jpg)

Musket balls could be from an 18th century hunting party. The hunting Château is not far from there, and there was a forest on this spot during the 18th century.

some more junk from the same batch (also found 10 French frank of 1991. I first thought it was a euro ) Bullet casings are from military exercises end fifties, begin sixties (I asked locals). At first I was excited, now I know it is one of the most common things you can find. I have a small 100 casings at home now. Sometimes I just throw them away as well.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/John1987/DSC00865.jpg)

Now la piece de resistance . TODAY WAS A GREAT DAY.

I went digging at the 18th century château itself. I found some tin artefacts (not dated yet), 2 rings (one silver, one bronze both relative modern) old Belgian francs, a couple of euro's and .. An 18th century coin. I presume it's a Brabandse oord, early 18th century. I haven't realy cleaned it, and pic is rather bad (In reality it is entirely green corroded. I want to clean it properly, yet have to figure out how)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/John1987/DSC00972.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/John1987/DSC00971.jpg)

If you look carefully, there's one shield and crown on one side, the other has four tiny shields . I'll try to post better ones tommorow
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Pascucci the Whiner on 21-07-2011, 23:07:36
When I go metal detecting I only find square nails etc., but that, that is beautiful! Why can't I ever find anything!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 21-07-2011, 23:07:01
Last time i went i found a 2cm thick steel plate with big rivets and such on it, i dug it out for like a square feet before i gave up and left it behind. the clay ground was just to hard do dig in any more, lol.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 22-07-2011, 00:07:55
Except for our usual spot, where we know what we are finding. Captured ammo and stuff, nearly every WW2 nation is represented in that forest, we always find junk. Still, junk can be interesting too.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 22-07-2011, 02:07:15
I once found an old officer's civil war button in the backyard with a metal detector, but my gramma lost it.  It's in the house somewhere, but we haven't been able to find it again.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Smiles on 22-07-2011, 13:07:39
When i go looking for stuff, i only find old cow bones.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 22-07-2011, 13:07:35
Won myself a 1945 russian gasmask bag and 10 USSR pinnes of various kinds for 10 euro

AW YEAH BEECH
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 22-07-2011, 17:07:39
Ok, part of the collection, the nice part though, i also have some .22 stuff and cleaning kits and slings and so.
Name them all and get a cookie. Everything is licensed and ready to shoot, except the troll in the pics ofcourse.

Sorry for the large size, did not want to resize them to much.
(http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/5222/p1000294z.jpg)
(http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/9476/p1000296gu.jpg)
(http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/5748/p1000295s.jpg)
(http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/7539/p1000297g.jpg)
(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/5416/p1000298ta.jpg)
(http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/6969/p1000299t.jpg)
(http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/5842/p1000300o.jpg)
(http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/9341/p1000301m.jpg)
(http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/5526/p1000303k.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 22-07-2011, 17:07:54
You has a Gew88?! :O
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 22-07-2011, 17:07:30
You has a Gew88?! :O

88/05, turkish bolt, but other then that, yes. Can not shoot the same bullets as my mauser though, i need reduced charge. It is adapted for the Ss bullets though.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 22-07-2011, 19:07:14
I got myself a brand new bolt for my Finnish nagant. I thought my old bolt was kaputt, but it turns out there's nothing wrong with it

The gundealer close by had a whole box full of nagant bolts of various models. Some fitted, some dint. It appeared to be trigger related..
But ye, i got a brand new bolt, for FREE aswel because i am a good customer
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 22-07-2011, 20:07:42
Siben, thats beautiful  :o
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 22-07-2011, 21:07:47
 :o Mas 36 is nais
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 22-07-2011, 21:07:40
:o Mas 36 is nais
you dam betcha it is. SIben was one lucky POS to get that one
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Pascucci the Whiner on 22-07-2011, 22:07:53
(http://i569.photobucket.com/albums/ss133/Arisaka99/IMG_3314.jpg)

My M44 collection, from top to bottom:

Chinese (Vietnam bring back?)
Polish
Hungarian
post war Russian (1946)
Romanian
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 22-07-2011, 22:07:38
The normal swede mausers here are cheaper than K98ks, about the same as the K31s and yugo mausers....  Only things cheaper are mosins.

seriously? i am getting an 98k for 150dollars soon, really nice rifle in mint condition  ::)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 22-07-2011, 22:07:36
The normal swede mausers here are cheaper than K98ks, about the same as the K31s and yugo mausers....  Only things cheaper are mosins.

seriously? i am getting an 98k for 150dollars soon, really nice rifle in mint condition  ::)
Thats Very nice. Hold on tight on that weapon, because in Belgium, expect to pay over 600 euro

Anyway, the Price of swedish mausers is officialy around 450 euro in Belgium. The main reason is that it is well sought after by target shooters
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Pascucci the Whiner on 22-07-2011, 23:07:09
More:

The Swede and Carcano are not mine, but the Carcano may be soon:

(http://i569.photobucket.com/albums/ss133/Arisaka99/IMG_3642.jpg)

A Finnish M27, a Finnish M91 and a 91/30

(http://i569.photobucket.com/albums/ss133/Arisaka99/IMG_3643.jpg)

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 23-07-2011, 21:07:19
Nice m44, would love to have one too.

That MAS36 in your gun rack, nice but post war. I am super happy that mine is original and Pre war, rather rare in this condition.

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 24-07-2011, 16:07:41
I would love a prewar Mas 36, but they are so expensive, and all I can find are post war types.  That's why I got a Berthier.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 31-07-2011, 20:07:13
My loot at Arlon today

-One Carcano M38 Carbine. 7.35x53mm. Built in 1939. Serialnumber 9503(140 euro)
-One Schmidt Rubin K31 bajonet (50 euro)
-One Schmidt rubin clip (2 euro)
-One Schmidt rubin Ammo pouch (7 euro)
-One Dianawerke Signal pistol(Same used by Bundeswehr) +4 flares (55 euro)

(http://img807.imageshack.us/img807/2083/bild1537.jpg)
(http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/6771/bild1538.jpg)
(http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/4244/bild1539.jpg)
(http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/7967/bild1540.jpg)
(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/6379/bild1541.jpg)
(http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/3838/bild1543.jpg)

As you can see, the wood is in very good condition. The bolt looks not, but this is because of long storage in gun grease. Once i clean this, it will look much better
(http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/5463/bild1546y.jpg)

(http://img804.imageshack.us/img804/2605/bild1547.jpg)
While the flaregun is in theory not "ww2 militaria", the Dianawerke flaregun is practicly the same as the german WW2 flareguns
(http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/4305/bild1548.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 31-07-2011, 20:07:17
Very nice my friend, i wish i had been there :(
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 31-07-2011, 20:07:22
Nice loot! Like the look of the flares, very cool.


So, nobody here owns an M1 Carbine?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 31-07-2011, 20:07:06
Yes and no, its a training rifle in .22

(http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/6273/p1000571r.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 31-07-2011, 20:07:43
Interesting, good to see at least one though, even if its a mutant of sorts  :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 31-07-2011, 20:07:56
Well, the carbine is on the to buy list. But because the licence it different then what is needed for my bolt action rifles they are a lot harder to find. And take about 6 months to get the paper work done (plus 95 euro tax) so it has been put on the long term buy list.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 02-08-2011, 22:08:12
Anyway, got myself a steyr mannlicher m95/30 rifle in 8x56R Fully matching and in good condition today.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 02-08-2011, 22:08:18
Anyway, got myself a steyr mannlicher m95/30 rifle in 8x56R Fully matching and in good condition today.

Yum!  Pics please :3
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 03-08-2011, 18:08:23
Ok, some pictures for you :)

Serials matching, even in the wood, shows sings of wear/repair/refurbs, but those where most likely done before or just after WW2 i think.

Placed it next to my Lee enfield No5 Mk1 "Jungle Carbine" for size comparison, it felt like it has about the same weight.
(http://img814.imageshack.us/img814/7596/48154004.png)
(http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/376/12901708.png)

Some markings, no idea what they mean to be honest. Other then the obvious that it was made in Budapest as an M95 originally, and has the calibre 8x56R. I like the little eagles though.
(http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/1708/40034996.png)
(http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7572/71776807.png)
(http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/1307/73750496.png)

3 steps, "normal", bolt backwards and cocked/ready to fire.
(http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/9691/39683856.png)
(http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/5342/14638001.png)
(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/7606/65925913.png)

No idea, my guess regimental markings.
(http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/7370/75132508.png)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 03-08-2011, 19:08:03
That Jungle carbine is so beautiful, can't help but stare everytime I see it
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 03-08-2011, 19:08:34
Nice loot! Like the look of the flares, very cool.


So, nobody here owns an M1 Carbine?

Kinda.....

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v213/Jeremiahthor/PHOT0009-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 03-08-2011, 19:08:06
Still looks good  :)

Don't you have a C96 laying around?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 03-08-2011, 23:08:20
Still looks good  :)

Don't you have a C96 laying around?

Yuppers..

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v213/Jeremiahthor/Picture008.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 03-08-2011, 23:08:14
a red 9, nice, but i would prefer the original configuration in 7.63×25mm Mauser. But then again, shooting it in 9×19mm Parabellum is so much easier and cheaper :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 03-08-2011, 23:08:58
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/7370/75132508.png (http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/7370/75132508.png)

Found out what it means, it's for  "Landes Gendarmerie Kommando Nieder Österreich"

So, seems like its a police weapon, that's good i guess, it should mean that they took good care of it.

Also, the HEGE stamp is German, so it was in Germany somewhere before the war aswell, probably 1929 since it seems to have gotten a refurb then.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: luftwaffe.be on 04-08-2011, 20:08:29
Well my coin was intermediated. It was a liegian liard of 1751 (like the example below)
(http://www.duiten.nl/lui90.gif)

I say was because I screwed it up completely. First I cleaned it with letting it bath for a weak in olive oil and clean it daily with a toothbrush. It had nice result(could read minting year ect) , but I couldn't get the green oxide layer of it (which was occupying the letters around the coin )

So I decided to use a thinned ammonia bath to let the oxide de-solve. I knew it was a heavy reacion , so I had a very thinned hydrochloric acid bath nearby to stop the reaction as well as a few baths of water to thin the reagents down and a soda bath to whip out remainders of hydrochloric acid solution.

 Mayor error.   

I tried it on some cheap coins first, looked ok.

Used the coin. Dipped it in ammonia for one second. Let the reaction stop by HCl. Couldn't get it stopped. The coin completely started to oxide. Tried the waterbath, and whipe it dry. Failed. Putted it in oil to shut it down from oxygen. By this time, the coin has been damaged so greatly, that it is just a round circle of copper.

I feel like an incompetent asshole, raper of history and a pillager of local history  :( :-X

Anyway I promised picks of the other finds here you go

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/John1987/DSC00980.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/John1987/DSC00979.jpg)

Also these where found

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/John1987/DSC00986.jpg)

A college of my father was cleaning out a house he owned. He found these medals with the original papers. He knew I liked this sort of stuff so he asked if I was interested, otherwise he would just throw  them away, so I gladly accepted his offer.       
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 06-08-2011, 11:08:56
nice luftwaffe


anyway, i got myself 2 origenal Steyr mannlicher Ammo boxes of 1939, each has 2 strippers with 5 rounds

(http://auction-e.com/image/20/244/7625.jpg)

but the bullets where already fired. then again 4 steyr mannlicher clips, with 5 casings and 2 origenal boxes for 15 euro?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 20-08-2011, 17:08:59
This tuesday, i will finnaly have them

I will be the proud owner of 2 Steyr mannlicher M95 stutzen. One made in steyr, one made in budapest.

have the pics of one, posting them soon
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 20-08-2011, 18:08:17
This is one of the 2 Steyr mannlicher M95 im gonna buy this tuesday
I am so pumped.As you can see the metal is in excellent condition. The wood is an decent to good condition. But some Well good wood oil and this baby will shine as never before
Serial matched exept for the bolt.(pretty rare to have a fully serial matched M95)and in 8x50mm Mannlicher

(http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/7903/steyrm95051.jpg)
(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/6408/steyrm95052.jpg)
(http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/8882/steyrm95053.jpg)
(http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/1255/steyrm95055.jpg)
(http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/4101/steyrm95056.jpg)
(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/8996/steyrm95057.jpg)
(http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/4314/steyrm95058.jpg)
(http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/7954/steyrm95061.jpg)
(http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/4554/steyrm95068.jpg)
(http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/3861/steyrm95067.jpg)
(http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/3448/steyrm95066.jpg)
(http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/3116/steyrm95071.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Musti on 20-08-2011, 18:08:37
Wow
It looks really awesome!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 20-08-2011, 19:08:17
Yes the steyr-mannlicher M95 family is awesome

There's also a Polish Derative of it. ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 21-08-2011, 06:08:51
Bought a German gas canister, and a French Army Greatcoat + Breeches + hat!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 21-08-2011, 10:08:38
Bought a German gas canister, and a French Army Greatcoat + Breeches + hat!
PICS!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 21-08-2011, 22:08:08
$300 well spent.
Breeches are too big, need to have them taken in.  Now I need some puttees.  Oh and I just wore that gas mask canister cause I just bought it and I thought it looked cool.  Got these all at D-Day Ohio this year, I'll put some pics up of that event soon.
(http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/1101/mg7717.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 21-08-2011, 22:08:10
He's so cute!

And I totally believe you if you say you are from Dublin.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 21-08-2011, 22:08:42
The coat does not show off my muscles too well... next up will be pic of me flexing.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 22-08-2011, 01:08:55
Aren't you in that movie, Twilight?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 22-08-2011, 02:08:00
I knew I wouldn't be the only one to notice the pale.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 22-08-2011, 23:08:21
i blame the lighting
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 23-08-2011, 21:08:46
LOOK AT MY STEYR MANNLICHERS, MY STEYR MANNLICHERS ARE AMAZING

i got one M95 Stutzen made in Steyr. Serial matched. Number is 1349 W.8x50R mannlicher Its fully origenal, as it has both the sling mounts for artillery troops as Cavalry troops

Many Austria-hungarian troops removed the Cavalry sling mounts, because it was  a bit uncomfortable for your right hand when firing the gun. SO i am super lucky with this gun.
The metal is in good condition and the wood in very good condition

The second one is a M95/30 made in budapest. Serial matched. With serial number 5714K. Chamberd in 8x56R. This is a post WW1 modification of the M95 stutzen. This one was lighter, simpler and also had a much stronger bolt and chamber. And ofcourse a new ammo type. It also got simpler sights and a protection around the end iron sight.
The wood is in a decent to good condition, but the metal is in very very good condition.
(http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/9326/bild1587.jpg)

TOP is the M95 steyr and bottom is the M95/24 Budapest

M95 STEYR PHOTOS
(http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/4035/bild1588.jpg)
(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/8651/bild1589.jpg)
(http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/8379/bild1590.jpg)
(http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/8228/bild1592.jpg)
(http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5985/bild1593l.jpg)

M95 BUDAPEST
(http://img814.imageshack.us/img814/5720/bild1595.jpg)
(http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/4791/bild1597.jpg)

Here you can see the diffrences
Top is the M95 BUDAPEST
Bottom is the Steyr

(http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/815/bild1599.jpg)
(http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/4042/bild1600.jpg)
(http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/4771/bild1601v.jpg)


Ill make some better ones soon. As you can see, the M95/24 from budapest needs some work on the wood . both rifles need some good line oil for the wood, a full de-greasing of the grease and new one applied, and some scrubbing with very fine steelwole
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 25-08-2011, 05:08:48
My BMW R12 getting ready to be attached to the super rare Royal military sidecar for the 1st time.(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x260/bmwr12/r12today.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 25-08-2011, 06:08:54
wow, theta's rifle isnt even 1% as interesting as your bike man!  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 25-08-2011, 10:08:30
wow, theta's rifle isnt even 1% as interesting as your bike man!  ;D
well that is quite obvious is it?  ;D

Whats more important? 2 rifles of 5 million built? Or an epic bike you can still drive of only like 10 000 built?

still
i have these beautifull rifles and you dont  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 26-08-2011, 05:08:36
But he can go places with that bike  ;)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 26-08-2011, 05:08:55
wow, theta's rifle isnt even 1% as interesting as your bike man!  ;D
well that is quite obvious is it?  ;D
still
i have these beautifull rifles and you dont  ;) ;)

while That might be true, are you in the position of maybe becoming a kettenkrad driver?  ::)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 26-08-2011, 07:08:50
while That might be true, are you in the position of maybe becoming a kettenkrad driver?  ::)

Snoox..Have I ever told you how the smiley makes you look like an asshole.  ;)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 26-08-2011, 10:08:01
wow, theta's rifle isnt even 1% as interesting as your bike man!  ;D
well that is quite obvious is it?  ;D
still
i have these beautifull rifles and you dont  ;) ;)

while That might be true, are you in the position of maybe becoming a kettenkrad driver?  ::)
Wow, giant douchebag. Hope you crash the Kettenkrad. Off a cliff.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 26-08-2011, 10:08:39
fellows i was about to write that snoox is a dickhead but your words summed it up better  :) <3
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 26-08-2011, 13:08:39
wow, theta's rifle isnt even 1% as interesting as your bike man!  ;D
well that is quite obvious is it?  ;D
still
i have these beautifull rifles and you dont  ;) ;)

while That might be true, are you in the position of maybe becoming a kettenkrad driver?  ::)

So how big and how hard is your penis now? I can hear flapping sounds of you swinging all the way to my place. Sounds like a windmill.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: th_battleaxe on 26-08-2011, 14:08:23
wow, theta's rifle isnt even 1% as interesting as your bike man!  ;D
well that is quite obvious is it?  ;D
still
i have these beautifull rifles and you dont  ;) ;)

while That might be true, are you in the position of maybe becoming a kettenkrad driver?  ::)

So how big and how hard is your penis now? I can hear flapping sounds of you swinging all the way to my place. Sounds like a windmill.
sounds more like a certain bike(no offense) running on its rims
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: DLFReporter on 26-08-2011, 14:08:08
I'm with snoox on this one, a bike is much cooler than all your phallus symbols (aka. rifles) :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 26-08-2011, 14:08:56
Anyhows, nice bike man, wish i could come over for a short drive.

I fail to see a chain on it, was it directly connected to the gearbox with that rod i see? Never seen something like this before.

To be honest, i though about cleaning up an old wreck to working condition. Finding something German is very hard, but an old Willie or dodge is rather easy. Problem for me is the initial investment and i am not sure if i have the presistance to finish the project.

I can ofcourse join the army volunteer group who put back old army stuff to running condition. Currently they are doing a panzer4 H. IIRC they have over 400 projects waiting in line.

@DLF, sure it is, but the difference is only de initial investment, i rather spend 300 on a rifle then 25 000 on a wreck and spend several years to clean it up. I simply don't think i am capable of that.

Still, snoox, that was a dick comment you made.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 26-08-2011, 15:08:20
humulination coming from the very veterans

i think sn00x has been punished enough.
Still sn00x, you may be able to DRIVE one, you dont OWE one IIRC.

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: th_battleaxe on 26-08-2011, 18:08:42
Anyhows, nice bike man, wish i could come over for a short drive.

I fail to see a chain on it, was it directly connected to the gearbox with that rod i see? Never seen something like this before.

To be honest, i though about cleaning up an old wreck to working condition. Finding something German is very hard, but an old Willie or dodge is rather easy. Problem for me is the initial investment and i am not sure if i have the presistance to finish the project.

I can ofcourse join the army volunteer group who put back old army stuff to running condition. Currently they are doing a panzer4 H. IIRC they have over 400 projects waiting in line.

@DLF, sure it is, but the difference is only de initial investment, i rather spend 300 on a rifle then 25 000 on a wreck and spend several years to clean it up. I simply don't think i am capable of that.

Still, snoox, that was a dick comment you made.
panzer IV H? must be the one that used to be in the brussels army museum
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 26-08-2011, 18:08:05
Anyhows, nice bike man, wish i could come over for a short drive.

I fail to see a chain on it, was it directly connected to the gearbox with that rod i see? Never seen something like this before.

To be honest, i though about cleaning up an old wreck to working condition. Finding something German is very hard, but an old Willie or dodge is rather easy. Problem for me is the initial investment and i am not sure if i have the presistance to finish the project.

I can ofcourse join the army volunteer group who put back old army stuff to running condition. Currently they are doing a panzer4 H. IIRC they have over 400 projects waiting in line.

@DLF, sure it is, but the difference is only de initial investment, i rather spend 300 on a rifle then 25 000 on a wreck and spend several years to clean it up. I simply don't think i am capable of that.

Still, snoox, that was a dick comment you made.
panzer IV H? must be the one that used to be in the brussels army museum
Yes. Its the one, its being transferred to that army volunteer group to get restored in running condition IIRC
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: th_battleaxe on 27-08-2011, 11:08:40
Anyhows, nice bike man, wish i could come over for a short drive.

I fail to see a chain on it, was it directly connected to the gearbox with that rod i see? Never seen something like this before.

To be honest, i though about cleaning up an old wreck to working condition. Finding something German is very hard, but an old Willie or dodge is rather easy. Problem for me is the initial investment and i am not sure if i have the presistance to finish the project.

I can ofcourse join the army volunteer group who put back old army stuff to running condition. Currently they are doing a panzer4 H. IIRC they have over 400 projects waiting in line.

@DLF, sure it is, but the difference is only de initial investment, i rather spend 300 on a rifle then 25 000 on a wreck and spend several years to clean it up. I simply don't think i am capable of that.

Still, snoox, that was a dick comment you made.
panzer IV H? must be the one that used to be in the brussels army museum
Yes. Its the one, its being transferred to that army volunteer group to get restored in running condition IIRC
me likey!!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 28-08-2011, 01:08:43
Anyhows, nice bike man, wish i could come over for a short drive.

I fail to see a chain on it, was it directly connected to the gearbox with that rod i see? Never seen something like this before.

To be honest, i though about cleaning up an old wreck to working condition. Finding something German is very hard, but an old Willie or dodge is rather easy. Problem for me is the initial investment and i am not sure if i have the presistance to finish the project.

I can ofcourse join the army volunteer group who put back old army stuff to running condition. Currently they are doing a panzer4 H. IIRC they have over 400 projects waiting in line.

@DLF, sure it is, but the difference is only de initial investment, i rather spend 300 on a rifle then 25 000 on a wreck and spend several years to clean it up. I simply don't think i am capable of that.

Still, snoox, that was a dick comment you made.

I could see myself as a kettenkrad owner one day :) I have tried out a friends and it was awesome. The bike is a shaft drive as was every 1929 and up BMW motorcycle to my knowledge. Here is what my Royal Military sidecar looked like before.I will have finished pics soon.(http://bmwr12.com/Royal/7.jpg)(http://bmwr12.com/Royal/9.jpg)(http://bmwr12.com/Royal/1.jpg)(http://bmwr12.com/Royal/34.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 30-08-2011, 01:08:07
bmwr12

we would all sacrifice a leg to see a video of your BMW  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 30-08-2011, 01:08:42
Theta's leg. Just rephrase that.

We would all love to sacrifice Theta's legs to see a video.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 30-08-2011, 03:08:45
bmwr12

we would all sacrifice a leg to see a video of your BMW  ;D

I will put one together once I retime the motor and get the Mg34 mount on it
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 30-08-2011, 10:08:08
Theta's leg. Just rephrase that.

We would all love to sacrifice Theta's legs to see a video.
why arent you holding yourself to the deal man?
Traitor!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 30-08-2011, 10:08:01
I use my leg on a daily basis, it's just not worth some random motorcycle.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: th_battleaxe on 30-08-2011, 12:08:02
Well Fuchs, I'm already sharpening the cheese knives, i'm backing Theta on this occasion ;D

EDIT: btw Fuchs, we're made of black knight so missing a limb, be it an arm or a leg:

'Tis but a scratch!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 30-08-2011, 14:08:39
I made my mind up. Im gonna collect the Family of mosin nagant, next to the Steyr mannlicher.

Target is the Main production models M91, Dragoon and M91/30. The M38 and M44 and M59 carbines.
Aswel as the finnish nagants, hugarian and polish nagants.


After that, wich is probaly in a few years, im gonna start with the Foreign mausers and a lee enfield. After that, i pretty much have the rifles i am intrested in.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: th_battleaxe on 02-09-2011, 15:09:05
I made my mind up. Im gonna collect the Family of mosin nagant, next to the Steyr mannlicher.

Target is the Main production models M91, Dragoon and M91/30. The M38 and M44 and M59 carbines.
Aswel as the finnish nagants, hugarian and polish nagants.


After that, wich is probaly in a few years, im gonna start with the Foreign mausers and a lee enfield. After that, i pretty much have the rifles i am intrested in.
Good idea, but please enlighten me on the Dragoon one, was that one still used by Dragoon units as in the Napoleonic era?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 02-09-2011, 17:09:27
I made my mind up. Im gonna collect the Family of mosin nagant, next to the Steyr mannlicher.

Target is the Main production models M91, Dragoon and M91/30. The M38 and M44 and M59 carbines.
Aswel as the finnish nagants, hugarian and polish nagants.


After that, wich is probaly in a few years, im gonna start with the Foreign mausers and a lee enfield. After that, i pretty much have the rifles i am intrested in.
Good idea, but please enlighten me on the Dragoon one, was that one still used by Dragoon units as in the Napoleonic era?
Nah it was just a nickname. It was intended for the dragoons, russia still had them in 1891. it was basicly a slightly shorter M91 mosin nagant with also a sling mounting

The one i have is made in 1928. In that same year the M91/30 was developed, wich was gonna use a round reciever(Unlike the hexagon on M91 and M91 dragoon) and new rear sights. My dragoon was build with remaining stocks of Hexagon recievers, but it already recieved the new rear sights.

Anyway
Today i got myself 2 Kalashnikov bajonets. The type 1 and Type 3. The type 3 is awesome, because with the scabbard, this is also a cutting tool and a Wirecutter.

I also got a belgian trench coat and a East german flag!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 02-09-2011, 22:09:01
Was bidding for a vintage condition polish mauser...The person selling it suddently asked 500 Euro...PISS
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 03-09-2011, 00:09:57
Oooh, so sorry my friend
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 03-09-2011, 10:09:07
Was bidding for a vintage condition polish mauser...The person selling it suddently asked 500 Euro...PISS

lol, they go for a lot less on fairs, i think the seller tough mauser, must be a k98k, lets sell for the same price.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 03-09-2011, 10:09:21
Was bidding for a vintage condition polish mauser...The person selling it suddently asked 500 Euro...PISS

lol, they go for a lot less on fairs, i think the seller tough mauser, must be a k98k, lets sell for the same price.
Yeah. We will wait for Arlon Mon ami  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 03-09-2011, 22:09:28
for some time now i have been keeping a secret from you guys, i have been secretly collecting signal magazines. Now that i almost have all of them i can share it i guess. See here, my 92 signals!

(http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/367/imag0323h.jpg)

Who is German Bias now, hahaha
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: luftwaffe.be on 03-09-2011, 23:09:28
I know where you can buy the full collection, nicely bounded with mint condition magazines. He was asking too much though.

I have a few of those as well. Excellent reading material.  And I also really like the adds. In the good old days when they still advertised rifles :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 03-09-2011, 23:09:18
Awesome, Siben! This reminded me.. I wanted to do that for years. I've made a lot of money in August, might start with it.. What's the average price per Signal?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 04-09-2011, 00:09:28
Common ones cost a few euro's, special rare ones (early/late war dutch editions) can go up to 250 and more. Same with the special edition ones.

Lets put the average price at maybe 5 euro's if you buy just one and 3 if you buy bulk.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 04-09-2011, 00:09:40
Pardon me for posting up Dutch links here now but a final question for Siben's militaria-brain.

http://link.marktplaats.nl/463840509

12 mid-war in reasonable condition. 35 to 40 Euros would be a good price? Wont bother you after this anymore  :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: luftwaffe.be on 04-09-2011, 00:09:11
In that condition, you should be able to get them cheaper if it is per number.

If it's for the lot, that's a good deal.

About 5 to 7 euro per number in very good condition is about the price you should aim for
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 04-09-2011, 08:09:07
Cheers guys  :) I can start collecting now, haha.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 04-09-2011, 11:09:14
For example fuchs, Siben bought those Signaal magazines for 3 euro a piece. Buying militaria stuff in bulk is just like buying everything in bulk. you can almost always get discounts for it

Currently bidding for this Epic Soviet army camo

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Soviet-Rus-KZS-Sniper-Camo-Uniform-suit-/180715661173?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a137e2775#ht_845wt_1396
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 04-09-2011, 15:09:55
To be honest ,i was very lucky, i payed about 2.5 euro a piece. But trying to find the missing ones will cost me so much more.

Good thing about my magazines is that i have the first issue in Dutch, the bad news is that i am missing the last 8 or so.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 09-09-2011, 17:09:16
MAMA mia I HASSA DIE GOODAA NEWWSA!

IYA bought die Grando beautifull Carcano M1891! Condition! IS bella! BRAVISIMMO!

(http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/4255/carcano.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 10-09-2011, 14:09:46
I had an epic loot today

The carcano M1891 in excellent condition serial matched, as seen above

A Russian army(Made in belarus lol) binoculars/rangefinder Its from the 90's i think, as it says in english "Made in belarus"

2 East german helmets for a rather cheap price
1 EPIC MOTHER RUSSIA OFFICER KEPIE

A belgian border officer booklet for identifying soviet and east german vehicles. This was issued to the border guards in Germany at the east german border for belgian troops. If a soviet vehicle was detected across the border, the Officer had to search it up, and report it. If an en-mass invasion commenced he had to write down what vehicles it where and instructions are on the booklet for calling and alerting the entire NATO forces of an invasion.

I also got a spare Carcano bolt.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 10-09-2011, 23:09:03
Hey Theta, Your bases belong to me, i has your carcano. If you want it back i want one Gazillion dollarzZ

(http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/9660/imag0355e.jpg)



Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: ajappat on 10-09-2011, 23:09:41
Why do you have sparkles on your jeans  ;D?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 10-09-2011, 23:09:19
Why do you have sparkles on your jeans  ;D?

Girls like it when i sparkle on them.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 11-09-2011, 12:09:02
INTRUDER ALERT

A RED SPY IS IN THE BASE

Special thanks to siben for picking the rifle for me up. The guy lived close by him.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 11-09-2011, 17:09:06
The more I look at the carcano, the more I am jealous!
You picked up a nice one!

I'll have to go interrogate Muddy on typical carcano prices here
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 11-09-2011, 17:09:41
The more I look at the carcano, the more I am jealous!
You picked up a nice one!

I'll have to go interrogate Muddy on typical carcano prices here
Rather cheap :/
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 11-09-2011, 22:09:33
Gentlemen

Check dis out
(Big image)
http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/1885/vz24003.jpg

What is this baby  ;D  Siben and pascussi may not partipate in this compition  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: G.Drew on 11-09-2011, 22:09:08
For god sake, resize or just post the link.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 11-09-2011, 22:09:20
dint resized properly

i posted link

Look at my rifle
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 13-09-2011, 21:09:53
Whoop, got my hands on some 1939 made 8.56r (is also full of tiny swastika's) for the M95 Manlicher after a shady deal :)

(http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/3218/imag0387t.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 14-09-2011, 01:09:38
very nice !
How much you payed for them if I can ask?
Here one bullet is around 1.10€ but not 1945 production
18 euro per box
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 17-09-2011, 13:09:43
MAMA mia my fucile d infanteria M1891 carcano is in my possesion!
It was made in Terni. Serial number Y4029(Thus 254 029) for the metal works, and 104 200 for the wood. The condition is unbelievable MIRACLE. it might have been restored a bit, but i dont mind. You can see somebody maintained this rifle! Top notch! Like a boss!

i also have my VZ 24. A very nice rifle for 250 euro, with bajonet! However, this rifle was once bored out to fire salute shots. It was that or face dismanteling of the weapon. You can perfectly fit and fire a mauser round with this gun, but dont expect accuracy beyond 200 meters. He knows because he fired the rifle. While the metal and wood are serial matched, the barrel issent. The barrel is infact from a german mauser. This rifle was issued to the Waffen SS though. The stamps, the date, the curved bolt instead of straight. It all makes out. This rifle was issued to the Waffen SS.
It is a very nice rifle, should i ever decide to go shooting with it, i can install any K98 barrel in it.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 20-09-2011, 02:09:53
Just scored a super nice Bronze Close combat badge. (http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x260/bmwr12/badge1.jpg)
(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x260/bmwr12/badge2.jpg)

Video of My 1940 BMW R12 running
http://s187.photobucket.com/albums/x260/bmwr12/?action=view&current=Picture015.mp4
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 20-09-2011, 02:09:38
^
(http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww250/jh2up/10rn12f.gif)



Anybody ever plinked with a Ruger 10/22 or a Romanian M1969? Currently weighing on which to make my first rifle
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: flyboy_fx on 20-09-2011, 03:09:11
Get a 10/22. OMG they are soo freaking nice!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have one so I would know. I love that gun. The Ruger MK3 is also well worth the money... I "Technically" don't own it yet... :P It is a great shooter, the mags are a bit funny though.

Over all I think the 10/22 is sweet! Combine it with some high quality steel lipped High cap mags and viola! :D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 20-09-2011, 03:09:38
MAMA mia my fucile d infanteria M1891 carcano is in my possesion!
It was made in Terni. Serial number Y4029(Thus 254 029) for the metal works, and 104 200 for the wood. The condition is unbelievable MIRACLE. it might have been restored a bit, but i dont mind. You can see somebody maintained this rifle! Top notch! Like a boss!

i also have my VZ 24. A very nice rifle for 250 euro, with bajonet! However, this rifle was once bored out to fire salute shots. It was that or face dismanteling of the weapon. You can perfectly fit and fire a mauser round with this gun, but dont expect accuracy beyond 200 meters. He knows because he fired the rifle. While the metal and wood are serial matched, the barrel issent. The barrel is infact from a german mauser. This rifle was issued to the Waffen SS though. The stamps, the date, the curved bolt instead of straight. It all makes out. This rifle was issued to the Waffen SS.
It is a very nice rifle, should i ever decide to go shooting with it, i can install any K98 barrel in it.

THeta, NO, BAD  You do not EVER FIRE THAT GUN, EVER.  It could explode in your face at ANY TIME.  You want to put it on a wall, fine, but unless you get it checked out and approved by a lisenced gun smith (and even then I'd be cautious)  do not, under ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, put a LIVE round through that gun.

Also, no, none of that is proof of being issued to waffen ::)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 20-09-2011, 10:09:28
Vonmudra it is safe to fire. It just issent accurate. The boring is not drilled out at the chamber, thus the bullet is still held correctly in place. Ive had it checked by the local gunsmith already.

Instead that the barrel is 7.92 in diameter, it is like 7.98 now.

Besides i am not planning to go shooting with it.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Pascucci the Whiner on 20-09-2011, 15:09:12
^
(http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww250/jh2up/10rn12f.gif)



Anybody ever plinked with a Ruger 10/22 or a Romanian M1969? Currently weighing on which to make my first rifle

Save up an extra $100 and get one of these: http://www.cz-usa.com/products/view/455-american/ . I own one and it is comparable to the $1000+ competition .22's in performance. Each one that comes out of the factory is tested for accuracy and there isn't a single piece of plastic on the gun.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: DAzLAYER on 21-09-2011, 14:09:05
I saw this thingy at an airsoft event last saturday. Sorry for bad photo, both me and my camera sucks at taking pictures.

(http://data.fuskbugg.se/skalman02/0f483b7d_P9170448.JPG)
Very nice!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 21-09-2011, 21:09:49
lets see how much i can get for my berthier

http://www.2dehands.be/verzamelen/overige-verzamelstukken/leger-oorlog-marine/berthier-mle1907-15-102565322.html?plaats=1
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 26-09-2011, 17:09:46
My ZF4 sight i little bit more closeup.

all the knobs are still working and there is no scratches on the lenses!

ill either re-blue it or just let it be to keep the authentic value.

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00205.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00203.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00202.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00200.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 27-09-2011, 12:09:21
this baby arrived today

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51lO7xVDNBL._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA300_SH20_OU01_.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 30-09-2011, 00:09:17
Dont ask me why

But i purchased a huge wooden crate with 10 of these babies
(http://img.2dehands.be/f/preview/103060786-lot-van-10-nva-helmen-2de-model-binnenwerk.jpg)
(http://img.2dehands.be/f/normal/103060786_1-lot-van-10-nva-helmen-2de-model-binnenwerk.jpg)

They should arrive in 2 days  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 30-09-2011, 04:09:35
Lmao Theta, you should do an "unboxing" set of photos
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 30-09-2011, 10:09:38
they arrived  ;D
will take a photo tonight

I mean

10 goddam helmets here  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Biiviz on 30-09-2011, 11:09:36
Are those NVA helmets?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 30-09-2011, 12:09:11
Are those NVA helmets?
eeeeyup

Model 2 helmets. These where designed first by germany in 1942 as a replacement for the Model 40 stalhhelm. It never progressed due to the war situation, but the helmet was 35% more effective then the stalhhelm

THere issent much diffrence between my DDR helmet and these 10 NVA helmets. i payed 5 euro per piece. Rather cheap i'de say. They are unused. with only a few scratches and rust on a couple.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 30-09-2011, 13:09:28
You told us not to ask but I just cant understand why on earth would you buy 10 these. Are you arming your own private army or what?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 30-09-2011, 13:09:24
To cover up his private army he can probably outfit his airsoft friends with this.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 30-09-2011, 14:09:47
You told us not to ask but I just cant understand why on earth would you buy 10 these. Are you arming your own private army or what?
Half of these i am gonna sell on a militaria fair

To cover up his private army he can probably outfit his airsoft friends with this.
And the other half goes here for a vietnam styled game  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: IrishReloaded on 30-09-2011, 14:09:48
you interested in real 1945 prodcution M1 helmet unused and in outstanding condition?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 30-09-2011, 14:09:48
Not really  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 30-09-2011, 16:09:47
Sometimes a man just has to buy 10 helmets for 50 euro

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/6330/bild0066g.jpg

Dont mind all the various tissues, i have a cold like fuck  :(
no they arent fapkins
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Krätzer on 30-09-2011, 16:09:54
no they arent fapkins

Hope you don´t touched the Helmets with unwashed FapFingers  :(
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 30-09-2011, 16:09:42
no they arent fapkins

Hope you don´t touched the Helmets with unwashed FapFingers  :(
Zhey where Clean!

ooh wait..fuuu

ooh yeah, also a DP28 magazine
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: th_battleaxe on 01-10-2011, 11:10:22
now you've got the record, buy the record player
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 01-10-2011, 12:10:49
Theta, i can haz 1 helmet plox?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: th_battleaxe on 01-10-2011, 12:10:18
funny, he offered me one yesterday, didn't take it though
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Krätzer on 01-10-2011, 13:10:04
Where is my helmet for free, as "thank you for your Models Kraetzer" Present  ???
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 01-10-2011, 13:10:24
Theta, i can haz 1 helmet plox?
you can has one for Standard purchase price  :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 02-10-2011, 04:10:05
I'll trade you a TF2 hat
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 02-10-2011, 21:10:11
A WILD G41 APPEARS

http://www.2dehands.be/verzamelen/overige-verzamelstukken/leger-oorlog-marine/zeldzaam-g-41-103531852.html?list_cat=leger-oorlog-marine&start=41

Reading the description, it is NOT a fully origenal G41. There are a few small parts that are replica made. The upper front guard is a new piece aswel. And the wood has been restored. Appearntly it was in a bad condition

I for once am glad he did restored it like that. Some people might not agree with this, but i rather see him taking a rare imcomplete piece and make it a good looking rifle once again. Especialy with a rare G41
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Yustax on 02-10-2011, 21:10:17
Sometimes a man just has to buy 10 helmets for 50 euro

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/6330/bild0066g.jpg

Dont mind all the various tissues, i have a cold like fuck  :(
no they arent fapkins

Geez man, sorry to say, but they're horrible X1. Still it's a good price.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 05-10-2011, 21:10:23
A WILD SERIAL MATCHED LEE-ENFIELD APPEARS!

(http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/668/enfieldq.jpg)
(http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/8779/enfield2.jpg)
(http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/8527/enfield5.jpg)

SELLER uses to high price!
Its not very effective!
Theta uses HAGGLE!
its super effective!
theta trows 350 euro!
GOTCHA! wild lee-enfield is caught!

Somebody i knew is stopping with his rifle collection, his girlfriend demanded it. Its a serial matched Lee-enfield No4 MK1 made in 1943. Serial number 10192 thus it was made in Maltby.

The price is pretty good. Lee enfields are pretty priced in Belgium. Same as with K98's.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Yustax on 05-10-2011, 23:10:25
Beautiful rifle, very sexy. Still, finding 303 ammo is a pain in the ass. It's helluva expensive too. Some shooters use necked down 308 ammo to fit the chamber and fire.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 07-10-2011, 17:10:52
Good news guys, i managed to save the barrel. All the oxidation is removed, the rifle has a beautifull barrel again. The grooves are also in very good condition.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 09-10-2011, 20:10:02
Well, i was looking for an early war k98k today at the fair, and i found one for 950 euro. I told the seller to go fuck himself in the arse.

Instead i picked up a Portuguese 937A rifle. It is a Mauser k98k basicly, made in 1937 in Berlin with all the swastika stamps and proofmarks on it just like on a real K98k but it has a slightly different front sight (dove tail, like the M1 carbine \|/  ) and a different method of attaching the sling and a different crest. It also came with a sling and numbers matching bayonet (i mean serial on bayonet is same as on rifle). It was less then half the price of the K98k. I am a very happy boy with my new rifle :)

A link to some body else his rifle. Mine is in better general condition.

http://milpas.cc/rifles/ZFiles/Bolt%20Action%20Rifles/Portuguese%20M1937%20Mauser%20short%20rifle/Portuguese%20M1937%20Mauser%20short%20rifle.html (http://milpas.cc/rifles/ZFiles/Bolt%20Action%20Rifles/Portuguese%20M1937%20Mauser%20short%20rifle/Portuguese%20M1937%20Mauser%20short%20rifle.html)

My rifle: Has not been cleaned yet and only took some quick pics with my phone.
(http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/5295/16617788.png)
(http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/5283/80144993.png)
(http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/7218/36227689.png)



Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 09-10-2011, 20:10:24
Dirk the german always has great prices for actually low price.

my loot of the day=

-A schmidt rubin K11. But it is for my mate, not me.
-A Diana Model 240 airgun and 4 cannes of pellets
-A Lee enfield spike bayonet, aka the pigsticker
-2 American MRE's
-2 French/belgian delicious nomnomnomnomnom field rations
-A Belt of 35 .50CAL Inert rounds
-Shoe polish and leather fat for my boots
-2 flares
-2 british army face camo units
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Yustax on 09-10-2011, 20:10:39
I dont know what's the obsession with rifle markings. Big deal, you arent going to see them when you shoot the rifle. What? You feel historical accurate when you fire it? Russian capture, american capture, serials scratched. It's the same thing for me; just if it has a clean bore, barrel, action and no damage it's all and good.

Sure original is better, but Im not goiing to pay 200% extra because it has markings when I can get a cheaper one of the same quality but russian capture for example.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 09-10-2011, 20:10:38
I would like to say this=

MEALS READY TO EAT=FOR THE WIN
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 09-10-2011, 20:10:04
I guess its some sort of criteria to what to buy. I set criteria to the deacs I buy. Otherwise I would propably go berserk and buy whatever I wanted. With defined criteria you do purchases if the item fills all or at least 95% of the set terms. I never buy a deac unless Im absolutely sure what Im receiving.

Might be just me but such "rules" restricts me from buying whatever I lay my eye upon and make me hunt for some certain type of the desired item. This makes it more interesting, challenging and rewarding.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Yustax on 09-10-2011, 20:10:55
Meh, I dont care for items hunt. If I buy a K98k it'll be to shoot it, hunt with it too.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 09-10-2011, 20:10:52
However it suits you the best. Taste of their own said the dog and kept on licking his balls.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 09-10-2011, 20:10:49
If you buy a car, do you buy it original like the manufacturer made it, or do you buy a car that was put together from 6 wrecks and some copied parts.

I would buy the first, eventhough it is more expensive and they probably drive just as well in the end. The second car might even look nicer with the respray it got.

It is the same for Rifles for me. I want it like the soldier had it, not how some bubba made it.

You might buy them for shooting only, i buy them for historic value and shooting.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 09-10-2011, 20:10:26
to me it doesnt matter .i do not have a preference if it is serial matched or not. its a nice thing but not preferred.

The condition it looks and is, thats more important to me

I mean, soldiers often did not had serial matched rifles aswel
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 09-10-2011, 21:10:03
True, bolts where often not matching after some combat.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 09-10-2011, 21:10:14
when it comes to serial matching

Rarest= bajonet
second rarest=sling
uncommon=Bolt
common=Reciever and wood
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 09-10-2011, 21:10:22
Also for sale at the fair, Finish helmet :)

(http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/7168/imag0462w.jpg)

People came from far to see the show.

(http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/5263/imag0464d.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 09-10-2011, 21:10:44
Fucking generalisation. If some folks of one detachment during Winter War and early Continuation War paints their helmets with skulls, it just HAS TO BE an universal finnish symbol. Im glad FH2 wont have any skulls for their finns... If it'll have finns at all.  :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 09-10-2011, 21:10:20
Nono, i did not mean it like that, just that i know this specific way of paining the helmet makes it finish, not german.

95% of people would have thought is was german with the skull and swastika on it. Just pointing out it is not.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Thorondor123 on 09-10-2011, 21:10:09
And the chances of that helmet being real are... low. A handful of people ever had such markings, and for some reason that one even has a strange nazi swastika on it. I'm playing a fake-card here.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 09-10-2011, 21:10:04
So because it has a skull it has to be finnish? How you know that its not just someone who saw the photo of the guys of light detachment 4 and decided he wants to paint it? How do you explain the swastikas on the side?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 09-10-2011, 22:10:20
Siben let us stop before finland invades us
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 09-10-2011, 22:10:50
I will try to find it again, but somewhere in my Signal magazines there are a few pics of these helmets, more then what you find online (that one with those 3 guys on it for example) They also show the sides, and had a similar 'German' swastika on the side.

This type of skull indicates there is a high chance of the helmet having been in finish use. The store selling it is pretty ligit, and so are the prices, they have, to my knowledge, always original things for sale. Even very rare items.

Personally i do not think it is a fake helmet, and very likely finish.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 09-10-2011, 22:10:58
I saw that helmet aswel...i HIGHLY doubt it is fake aswel
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 09-10-2011, 22:10:47
I've seen pics of swaszi's like that on Finnish helmets.  Hell, I've even seen pics of Finnish soldiers wearing German helmets with the adler and swastika decal still on the side, untouched since it left the factory.  Finnish Civil Guard soldiers also sometimes had swastikas as collar devices, and a guy I know has an original Finnish messkit with swastikas and finnish writing chiseled onto the metal and paint.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 09-10-2011, 22:10:48
Pics or bullshit. Nothing but a load of generalisation.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 09-10-2011, 22:10:34
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/301559_10150264436442011_582127010_7742921_3426490_n.jpg)

Pwnt.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Ciupita on 09-10-2011, 22:10:07
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/301559_10150264436442011_582127010_7742921_3426490_n.jpg)

Pwnt.

The pic siben posted has only big swastika, not the eagle.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 09-10-2011, 22:10:11
Look at what I said and what flippy said. :P

And I have indeed seen that big swastika before.  IIRC, it was an estonian volunteer helmet, with the skull.  JR200.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 09-10-2011, 22:10:19
Anyone suggesting skulls for finnish helmets in FH2, based on couple of pictures of few individual soldiers in one detachment will receive a permanent ban.

Mark. My. Words.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 09-10-2011, 22:10:50
I am now suggesting it!  ;D for NCO it would awesome!

but seriously, the picture quite sums it up :p
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Thorondor123 on 09-10-2011, 22:10:08
Sums up what exactly?

Oh forget it actually. This thread is now silly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iu7vySQbgXI
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 09-10-2011, 23:10:43
Look at what I said and what flippy said. :P

And I have indeed seen that big swastika before.  IIRC, it was an estonian volunteer helmet, with the skull.  JR200.

You could be right here, I remember something similar as well, vaguely.

It is in my signals, i am sure, i just dont know where, it are over 4000 pages, takes a bit to look through them.


Anyway, no point arguing ifs and maybe's, i will come back when i find the article, German propaganda would not lie about something like this i am asuming :p
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 09-10-2011, 23:10:40
we should move on to MILITARIA that we own, not some pictures that make some children cry.

So, here is my new M43 winter parka Mouse-grey :)

280dollars included freight! nice buy now that its starting to get cold!!  ;D

now now fur haters.. no real fur here! still damn warm and Damn cozy to wear! :o

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00257.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00256.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00254.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: luftwaffe.be on 10-10-2011, 01:10:16
I will try to find it again, but somewhere in my Signal magazines there are a few pics of these helmets, more then what you find online (that one with those 3 guys on it for example) They also show the sides, and had a similar 'German' swastika on the side.

This type of skull indicates there is a high chance of the helmet having been in finish use. The store selling it is pretty ligit, and so are the prices, they have, to my knowledge, always original things for sale. Even very rare items.

Personally i do not think it is a fake helmet, and very likely finish.

Siben, it is edition nr7 year 1943, issue about Primo

On page 8 , 3 fins with exact the same helmet  ;)
(http://www.bobbo.be/upload/2010/12/28/08/14/129ea6e226/big/129ea-foto-1082.jpg)

you can thank my photographic memory :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: th_battleaxe on 10-10-2011, 12:10:53
you mean the one with the description that says they belong to the assault troops of a (in)famous finnish regiment
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 10-10-2011, 17:10:57
we have found the weakness of the finnish
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Musti on 10-10-2011, 17:10:24
we have found the weakness of the finnish
NOPE
Chuck Testa
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 10-10-2011, 18:10:25
http://www.2dehands.be/verzamelen/overige-verzamelstukken/leger-oorlog-marine/carcano-1941-104340409.html?list_cat=leger-oorlog-marine

MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE
MINE
mine!
pleeezz god! NOBODY BIDS ON CARCANOS! DONT LET ANYONE BID ON IT THIS TIME

PLEEZZZZZ
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 10-10-2011, 18:10:58
Lol, nice memory, but it was not the one i was looking for, there are also pictures somewhere where you could clearly see the side of the helmet, i think it was an issue where they showd all the allies and nations who send volunteers.

Anyway, the picture you give does have a german style swastika on the side of the helmet, it is just not turned 45°

Still, it aint your regular Finnish swastika, eventhough it are definatly Finnish soldiers.

(http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/5051/imag0469y.jpg)
(http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/8431/imag0470g.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Thorondor123 on 10-10-2011, 18:10:17

What we have here, is the only picture of Kevyt osasto 4 that I know. This picture is all over the internet... I could have posted that... :E

Anyway, the picture you give does have a german style swastika on the side of the helmet, it is just not turned 45°
That pretty much makes it a Finnish swastika, does it not? If that is a swastika on that helmet, it's obviously not similar to the one on page 100.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 10-10-2011, 19:10:55
ZHE CARCANO IS MINE

MINE

MOEHAHAHAHAH
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 10-10-2011, 19:10:38
Congrats
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 10-10-2011, 19:10:25
Anyways, i also got a Fusil Mle 1907/15 (French Berthier).
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 10-10-2011, 20:10:08
thats odd...my Fusil Mle 1907/15 berthier got stolen
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 10-10-2011, 20:10:20
thats odd...my Fusil Mle 1907/15 berthier got stolen

Sucks hey, having to leave the house to go to work, people can just walk in and take your stuff.

You should count the amount of NVA helmets you have left too.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 10-10-2011, 20:10:01
ONE IS MISSING

Siben how do you know this? do you perhaps know the person who stole it?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Thorondor123 on 10-10-2011, 20:10:48
Get a room.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 10-10-2011, 20:10:04
(http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/4969/dsci0007u.jpg)
(http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/442/dsci0009to.jpg)
(http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/5479/dsci0011nv.jpg)
(http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/1725/dsci0013k.jpg)
(http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/3284/dsci0014i.jpg)
(http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/1293/dsci0015ah.jpg)


My new Principessa! A carcano M1891/41.

Serial matched.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 10-10-2011, 22:10:52
YUM! :D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 10-10-2011, 22:10:32
Just consumed my first american MRE or meal ready to eat. I had menu 4, mapple sausage

So far=
-French vanilla cappucino=DELICIOUS
-Cinnamon scone=Tasty
-Mapple Sausage DAM DAM DAM DAM DELICIOUS
-chocolate chip toaster pastry=Pretty tasty
-Crackers=Disgusting (I VANT MY PANZERCOOKIES)
-granulate Milk and blueberries=Havent tried yet
-Apple butter=Havent tried yet
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 10-10-2011, 22:10:54
I´ve got some vanilla capuccinos here, too, I think I´m going to try one tomorrow after hearing so much good about them.
MRE crackers aren´t that good and I agree with you that Panzerplatten are way better. I´ve tried French and British crackers, too, and so far I really like all 4 of them (French and British military rations come with 2 cracker types, each and especially the British "biscuits brown" are great!).
MRE sweets are usually really, really delicious, even though French candies are superb, aswell (nougat, fruit candies and whatnot).
I´d really love to try the granulate milk with blueberries. It´s supposed to be pretty good and generally it seems like you were pretty lucky and got a true "breakfast" meal. Usually US soldiers eat whatever they get for breakfast, be it spaghetties or beef patties, but now they´ve introduced a handfull of "breakfast" meals now. Not continental breakfast, like in the German EPA, but atleast something more suited than hot meals :D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 10-10-2011, 22:10:00
I´ve got some vanilla capuccinos here, too, I think I´m going to try one tomorrow after hearing so much good about them.
MRE crackers aren´t that good and I agree with you that Panzerplatten are way better. I´ve tried French and British crackers, too, and so far I really like all 4 of them (French and British military rations come with 2 cracker types, each and especially the British "biscuits brown" are great!).
MRE sweets are usually really, really delicious, even though French candies are superb, aswell (nougat, fruit candies and whatnot).
I´d really love to try the granulate milk with blueberries. It´s supposed to be pretty good and generally it seems like you were pretty lucky and got a true "breakfast" meal. Usually US soldiers eat whatever they get for breakfast, be it spaghetties or beef patties, but now they´ve introduced a handfull of "breakfast" meals now. Not continental breakfast, like in the German EPA, but atleast something more suited than hot meals :D
The MRE crackers are disgusting . Panzerplatten FTW! my german EPA has it right here and i cant wait to go airsofting and NOMMING on that delicious concrete biscuit  ;D

The sweets in MRE are very delicious and nutricious aswel. But for the price and size of one MRE, i can buy a french/belgian 24 hour ration...with 3 times the amount of content. The MRE has the advantage in return however, being self-heating and longer preserving(3 years room temp,15 years stored chilled)
The milk with blueberries is BTW, very good.

So far i have to say=
1.French/belgian RCIR
2.German EPA
3.MRE
4.Norwegian field rations from 1970  ;D STILL edible and pretty dam good


Many MRE's find there way back here in Belgium. In afghanistan, French and belgian troops trade one RCIR for 5 MRE's. My uncle knows it  ;D he tries to hide his RCIR as much as possible, because if he doesnt and a american sees it
"YO DUDE YOUR THE BEST! 5 MRE's for your RCIR"
"FUCK YOU BASTARD I OFFER 6 "

its unbelievable  ;D

But for the same money, i can buy a RCIR and EPA in belgium. They are worth much more then a MRE. Admitted it is a nice thing, but the other rations are better
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 10-10-2011, 23:10:03
MRE crackers crumble easily and fall apart as soon as you open the damn package. Also they come in two versions, "veggie" and "normal". "veggies" are really disgusting, whereas the "normals" are..meh, still. Did you ever try wheat snack bread?
It´s kinda odd, but I heard it´s supposed to be pretty good with peanut butter and jelly.
As much as I loath everything that has anything to do wth the French (just kidding ;)) I´ve got to admit that their rations are really good. A mate of mine served in the Franco-German Brigade and he said that French rations were just great.
British rations aren´t bad, either, if you can stand their cousine. I´ve had a few British main meals so far and they were all right. The only downside is that you need lots of water to heat the meals, because they don´t come in cans that can be heated over an open flame. Also their chocolate bars are pretty good and they come with lots of drinks, such as tea and drinking mix powder.
The thing I don´t like about MREs is that they´re almost the same size and weight of a 24-hours ration, yet provide for one meal only.
(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/6221/img0756bs.jpg)
I still have a few EPAs, lots of MRE stuff, a half-empty RCIR and some British rations at home. My little food storage for the upcoming Zombie Apolaypse! :D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 10-10-2011, 23:10:55
Hell yeah! dont mind the expering date of the RCIR. its the milk IIRC that degrades many things remain good for a long time.

but yeah. MRE...its OKAY. its good when you are out there and you cant make fire. But the same size...and COST of a RCIR and EPA... And the RCIR and EPA are delicious and contain 3 times more calories...And food..Last a day, even longer...

MRE's do have a longer shelve life though. im gonna buy a few and keep them in my cellar...just in case you know  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 12-10-2011, 23:10:53
so in the end, menu 4 MRE=

-French vanilla cappucino=DELICIOUS
-Cinnamon scone=Tasty
-Mapple Sausage DAM DAM DAM DAM DELICIOUS
-chocolate chip toaster pastry=Pretty tasty
-Crackers=Disgusting (I VANT MY PANZERCOOKIES)
-granulate Milk and blueberries=Pretty decent
-Apple butter=Yummy
-Apple cider=FUCKING DELICIOUS


A good meal, but very expensive. for the same price i buy a good RCIR or EPA and i have 3 times the content.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 15-10-2011, 15:10:28
Sold a few of my rifles to free up space and cash for my Carcano/m95 collection. i've decided to primarly concentrate on these 2 families

A new member joins my carcano collection. A Carcano M41 made in 1941 by FAT. Fully serial matched
(http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/4141/carcanom41.jpg)
(http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/9063/carcanom412.jpg)
(http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/4738/carcanom413.jpg)
(http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/2907/carcanom414.jpg)
(http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/7190/carcanom415.jpg)


As you can see, it is in a beautifull condition. All the stamps are present, no rust nothing. A barrel with nice grooves.

The second piece is a Steyr-mannlicher M95/30 in 8x56. made in steyr.It is fully serial matched and in great condition, the post war converting is done very nicely(you can tell the diffrence between my hungarian M95/30 and this steyr built right away).The barrel is in excellent condition, the wood is in a good condition and the metal works in great condition

(http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/2936/m95b.jpg)
(http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/9705/m952.jpg)
(http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/4016/m953.jpg)
(http://img802.imageshack.us/img802/8523/m954.jpg)


I sold my M91/27 and Berthier rifle.i might also sell my VZ 24.
Currently have of carcano=
M1891 Fucile di fanteria
Modello 38 fucile di fanteria in 7.35
Fucile di fanteria M1891/41

Wich leaves me to collect the
-Moschetto per Truppe Speciali Mod. 91
-Moschetto di Fanteria Mod. 91/24
-Moschetto per Truppe Speciali Mod. 91/28
-Moschetto per Truppe Speciali con Tromboncino Mod. 91/28 (the grenade launching rifle)
Fucile di fanteria Modello 38 in 6.5

of steyr, i need the long infantry rifle. I saw one today, but the metal work lost all of its blueing and rust on it aswel.

the carcano collection takes priority though
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Yustax on 15-10-2011, 16:10:34
Beautiful rifles, you should post pics of your whole collection soon :)

Say...can you own ammunation for these and fire them in Belgium?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 15-10-2011, 17:10:46
With a licence, yes.

The problem is finding the ammunition, its rather rare here.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Yustax on 15-10-2011, 17:10:35
With a licence, yes.

The problem is finding the ammunition, its rather rare here.

Can you just buy them from a source and ship them there?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 15-10-2011, 17:10:50
Yes, with a lot of time and money.

Often they only do that if you buy a crate of bullets, witch often mean more then 1000.

You can ask you local gunshop to import some, but they are not happy with it since rare calibres don't sell wel, so they want you to buy big as well.

Also, all the surplus is going to the USA, witch sucks for us since they always get first pick.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 15-10-2011, 17:10:36
its possible to find the ammo. Either very easy or very difficult. Ammo is distrubted to only certified dealers. A police report said the black market has pretty much collapsed

Some types of ammo are pretty common to find. Like .303 enfield, 6.5 swedish, 7.5 swiss, 7.62 nagant. However lately a scarcity of all sorts of ammo is present.

.22, 9mm or .308? no problem, but rifle calibres...

Pvri partisan appearntly ships first to the US then the rest of the world. but yeah, we will see.

For obtaining ammo, you must get a license however. Inert or demil ammo is allowed however.


I'll take a picture or so tommorow Yustax. But i have no german bias :v

Exept for a VZ 24 wich was built in 1940 and used by the Waffen SS. I pretty much got it confirmed now that this is a authenthic Waffen SS Issued rifle. The local gunsmith examined it properly. And elements like the curved bolt, lacking of Czech crown and the serials pretty much confirms it is one issued to sie SS
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: MaJ.P.Bouras on 16-10-2011, 14:10:00
Theta why you no buy Greek Manlicher??
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 16-10-2011, 14:10:56
Cant find one  :(
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Pascucci the Whiner on 16-10-2011, 16:10:32
Exept for a VZ 24 wich was built in 1940 and used by the Waffen SS. I pretty much got it confirmed now that this is a authenthic Waffen SS Issued rifle. The local gunsmith examined it properly. And elements like the curved bolt, lacking of Czech crown and the serials pretty much confirms it is one issued to sie SS

Perhaps those are indications that it was probably used by the Germans, but it's much more likely that it got issued to some random conscript than issued to the SS. The VZ-24 was mass-issued to both regular German units and to the Romanians, so unless you see clear SS marks on the rifle (and even then, they're usually fake), assume that it isn't an SS gun.

Thanks,
Pascucci
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 16-10-2011, 17:10:43
Exept for a VZ 24 wich was built in 1940 and used by the Waffen SS. I pretty much got it confirmed now that this is a authenthic Waffen SS Issued rifle. The local gunsmith examined it properly. And elements like the curved bolt, lacking of Czech crown and the serials pretty much confirms it is one issued to sie SS

Perhaps those are indications that it was probably used by the Germans, but it's much more likely that it got issued to some random conscript than issued to the SS. The VZ-24 was mass-issued to both regular German units and to the Romanians, so unless you see clear SS marks on the rifle (and even then, they're usually fake), assume that it isn't an SS gun.

Thanks,
Pascucci
I doubt this one are fake. The man who owned this rifle had it for over 40 years. When i placed an advert that i was searching for a VZ24, he dint said it was one owned by germany nor the SS. I only saw the waffenambt stamp when i looked upon the rifle itself. I have seen one Fake Kar 98 SS stamp before. The man selling the rifle was shouting=REAL SS OWNED RIFLE VERY VALUABLE AND VERY RARE

When a seller uses "Real" "very" and "rare" in one sentence, you simply know it is a fake. And a respect member of the militaria fair also confirmed that it was fake.

I honestly wish my VZ24 was not a SS or german owned weapon. The czech cresent is missing wich is such a shame. Might trade this VZ24 for another VZ 24. An origenal one
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Pascucci the Whiner on 16-10-2011, 18:10:28
Exept for a VZ 24 wich was built in 1940 and used by the Waffen SS. I pretty much got it confirmed now that this is a authenthic Waffen SS Issued rifle. The local gunsmith examined it properly. And elements like the curved bolt, lacking of Czech crown and the serials pretty much confirms it is one issued to sie SS

Perhaps those are indications that it was probably used by the Germans, but it's much more likely that it got issued to some random conscript than issued to the SS. The VZ-24 was mass-issued to both regular German units and to the Romanians, so unless you see clear SS marks on the rifle (and even then, they're usually fake), assume that it isn't an SS gun.

Thanks,
Pascucci
I doubt this one are fake. The man who owned this rifle had it for over 40 years. When i placed an advert that i was searching for a VZ24, he dint said it was one owned by germany nor the SS. I only saw the waffenambt stamp when i looked upon the rifle itself. I have seen one Fake Kar 98 SS stamp before. The man selling the rifle was shouting=REAL SS OWNED RIFLE VERY VALUABLE AND VERY RARE

When a seller uses "Real" "very" and "rare" in one sentence, you simply know it is a fake. And a respect member of the militaria fair also confirmed that it was fake.

I honestly wish my VZ24 was not a SS or german owned weapon. The czech cresent is missing wich is such a shame. Might trade this VZ24 for another VZ 24. An origenal one

Still, I think it was mostly wishful thinking on your gunsmith's part. You can't confirm that it was an SS issued gun from the serial numbers, there is only one way to tell if it was issued to the SS and that would be if it had SS marks/codes on it, which are typically fake. The topic of SS issued VZ-24's comes up often enough for me to know this.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 16-10-2011, 20:10:26
Truth is that with all the fakes nobody can guarantee that is is real SS issue unless it was your own grandfathers rifle when he himself was in the SS. There are just to many fakes.

Still, theta has good indications to believe that it was in the SS, the fact that the seller did not specificly said so make the chance of a fake a lot less.


Anyway, since i see the need, just like theta to get more specific with rifles i decided to collect French rifles. I will get one of every model, and probably type as well of infantry rifles used in WW2. Do not think i will also collect the manufacturers aswell.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 16-10-2011, 20:10:20
its an excellent idea siben. you have to focus on 1 and 2 categories or else things get out of hand  ;D

I decided to focus on Carcano and Steyr-mannlicher. Why? because few collect these. The steyr stutzen is often bought because it is well regarded, but i havent met a single person who is specificaly intrested in carcano

There is this one guy, a german, who is on every belgian militaria fair. He had no carcano's last week, so i asked if he had carcano's. He had 5 models at his home, but nobody wanted them. all nice pieces!
So i said i collect carcano specificaly, he was impressed and he is bringing a moschetta da calvaria and a Model 38 in 6.5 and selling it to me for dumping prize!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: th_battleaxe on 17-10-2011, 13:10:53
Nice catch, theta ;)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 17-10-2011, 17:10:22
Gonna send my new Steyr Stutzen M95 to the weapon testing bank in a few weeks  ;D

YES
i will be firing with it  ;D
YES
My shoulder will be dislocated with the first shot  ;D
YES
My shoulder will be relocated with the second one ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Yustax on 17-10-2011, 18:10:05
So when can we see your collection?  :P Just throw it all together and take some pics.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 17-10-2011, 18:10:57
there we go, i did not resized it so you can watch the entire collection in one shot

Camera sucks though :(
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/7496/bild0105q.jpg

Resized photo=
(http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/147/bild0105g.jpg)

From left to right=
Schmidt rubin K31. Steyr mannlicher M95 Stutzen(Steyr). Steyr mannlicher M95/30 stutzen(M95/30). Steyr mannlicher M95/30 (Budapest). Carcano fucile Di fanteria M1891. Carcano Fucile Di fanteria M1891/41.
Carcano Fucile di fanteria M38 (7.35x51). Lee Enfield No4 MK1(Maltby). Swedish Mauser M96 Gevär(Carl gustav)

On the ground=
Mosin nagant M91 Dragoon/30 hybrid(Hexagon reciever,  30 sights and sight hood. VZ 24 (Bended Bolt)

And a view of my bajonets=

(http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/5323/bild0111d.jpg)

Left to right top to bottom=
VZ 24 bajonet. Lee enfield Spike bajonet(Pigsticker!)
Mosin nagant Bajonet (Model 30). Schmidt rubin K31 bajonet
Gevar 96 bajonet
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 17-10-2011, 18:10:05
Haha, i should do the same again as well now :p

Ma e-penis is bigga!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Yustax on 17-10-2011, 19:10:21
Great collection. It would be cool if you also place other stuff like uniforms, helmets, old stuff, old ammo and stuff, plus weapons.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 17-10-2011, 22:10:01
You mean things like this?

(http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/8743/imag0486.jpg)

(http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/2800/imag0488l.jpg)

(http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/3501/imag0489b.jpg)

Also, question of the day, witch one is the 1943 BCD made K98k, and witch one is the 1937 Obendorf made 937a.

(http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/4479/imag0490x.jpg)
(http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/132/imag0491pu.jpg)

And as a bonus, witch one is the 1936 K98k bayonet and witch one is the 1937 937a bayonet.

(http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/3646/imag0487w.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 17-10-2011, 22:10:48
the bottom K98 is the obendorf
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 18-10-2011, 01:10:58
And my guess is the top bayonet.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 18-10-2011, 02:10:16
I say the top one is Obendorf, the bottom one is 1943.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 18-10-2011, 18:10:27
Top rifle is the K98k, bottom rifle the 937a
Top bayonet is the 937a, bottom is the K98k

The difference? None, only the later you go, the less stamps it gets, and the less smooth the finish.

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 18-10-2011, 20:10:41
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvGhoye7asA

Currently doing this with all of my steyr mannlichers. Bolt is very very difficult to open, this ought to do the trick(Dissassembeling bolt and reassembeling it)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 20-10-2011, 20:10:13
Stuffs

(http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/7099/imag0474q.jpg)
(http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/8185/imag0475r.jpg)
(http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/1640/imag0476e.jpg)
(http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/9509/imag0477o.jpg)
(http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6169/imag0479il.jpg)
(http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/63/imag0480m.jpg)
(http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/4330/imag0481g.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 20-10-2011, 21:10:59
Fap fap fap to the M95/30
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: th_battleaxe on 23-10-2011, 14:10:55
But still, very nice collection
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 23-10-2011, 22:10:38
Thanks, on day i hope to have the main battle rifles of WW2. Maybe even a few pistols. I don't want deactivated things.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: th_battleaxe on 07-11-2011, 15:11:50
understandable, but I don't think my first will be a WW2 weapon, I would rather have a good old musket
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 07-11-2011, 17:11:07
understandable, but I don't think my first will be a WW2 weapon, I would rather have a good old musket
You would be surprised how low prices of a musket can be. Demand is low so prices=Low  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: GuinNess on 07-11-2011, 20:11:17
My newest achievement (http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/9149/29102011172.jpg)
P08 Luger Erfurt Factory 1916. I got this nice gun for only 660 €. Numbers all match except for one little part inside the gun. I cant wait until i can take it to the range. Now I got the most famous pistols of the world: P08 Luger and the Colt 1911 :D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 07-11-2011, 20:11:28
Nice price, how did you manage that?

Anyway, i got a few new old rifles (1931 made nagant revolver, a Schmidt-Rubin 1896/11 Rifle (pre ww1, forgot the exact date) and a Schmidt-Rubin K31 rifle (1934).) and a limonka to toss around. All in good and working condition.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 07-11-2011, 20:11:49
do my eyes see 660 euros?

those will easily fetch 1500 euros ATLEAST here in belgium
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 07-11-2011, 20:11:07
Nope, 9mm ones are a lot cheaper then the 6.65 ones. (due to the completely different type of licence)

And he is from luxembourg, prices are a lot like us.

Probably got it cheap due to not matching and wear on the outside.

But who cares, right? You got a friggin luger!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: th_battleaxe on 07-11-2011, 20:11:34
siben, you'd better watch out with that little lemon, unless it's deactivated

Guinness, that is a very cheap bargain, but a very good one, nice to see the luger is still out there for an affordable price
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 07-11-2011, 21:11:52
I am smart enough to get rid of the fuze and explosives. Now it should be legal to own.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: GuinNess on 07-11-2011, 21:11:56
Nope, 9mm ones are a lot cheaper then the 6.65 ones. (due to the completely different type of licence)

And he is from luxembourg, prices are a lot like us.

Probably got it cheap due to not matching and wear on the outside.

But who cares, right? You got a friggin luger!

Exactly . It was the first time that I've been in that store (i was looking for a spring for my winchester pumpgun) and I saw that Luger. I thought asking doesnt cost anything so i did. And when I heard the price .... well SNAP. When I'll got it at home i will do more pictures.

P.S. My Colt is also from 1916 :D Nice coincidence.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 07-11-2011, 21:11:26
i just found out my carcano has a safety

lol...
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 07-11-2011, 21:11:39
It's for when you have to drop it so you don't accidentally fire it while routing.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 07-11-2011, 21:11:09
It's for when you have to drop it so you don't accidentally fire it while routing.
;D

i was like= if i was a safety i would be this

*le push

Motherfucker..............its a safety!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: ksl94 on 12-11-2011, 23:11:11
Just got an original M1VA1 Gas Mask Bag for my birthday! I will try to post some pics later.
I purchased an M1 helmet at the local Army/Navy store, but it's a late version and has gotten a new chin strap etc. during the 80's. I will post pics soon.  8)
One question I have though, does anybody know a goood place to obtain an M1 or M2 gas mask (usable condition). I looked all over the internet but I didn't find anything at all.

EDIT:I just saw Guiness' Luger - man, you are really lucky!!  At a gun show in Fort Worth this summer there were about two guys who sold some (not more than 3 availabe) and they asked for more than 1500 USD for the cheapest. The most expensive one was priced at 5000 USD. One guy had an AWESOME M1 Garand Sniper rifle, according to the seller completely original. I asked him for the price. 6000 USD.  :-X But I guess those are quite rare, and the condition on this one was atleast 95%. However, they had A TON of No.1 Mk. III. SMLe's  :P . It was a pity that they didn't allow photos.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 12-11-2011, 23:11:15
My newest achievement

Nice Luger guy!  Just wondering what kinda magazine you got with it.  Though my Russian rework Luger is nothing to brag about I was pretty tickled to find it came with a milled magazine when I got it.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: GuinNess on 13-11-2011, 17:11:04

EDIT:I just saw Guiness' Luger - man, you are really lucky!!  At a gun show in Fort Worth this summer there were about two guys who sold some (not more than 3 availabe) and they asked for more than 1500 USD for the cheapest. The most expensive one was priced at 5000 USD. One guy had an AWESOME M1 Garand Sniper rifle, according to the seller completely original. I asked him for the price. 6000 USD.  :-X But I guess those are quite rare, and the condition on this one was atleast 95%. However, they had A TON of No.1 Mk. III. SMLe's  :P . It was a pity that they didn't allow photos.

Thx mate! It's like siben said. 9 mm Lugers are cheaper than the 7.65 mm ones. I saw twi 7.65 mm luger at a gunfair in Belgium and the seller asked about 5000 € for them! I'll hope I get the gun in a few weeks so I can post more detailed pictures of it.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 13-11-2011, 18:11:28
still a very nice piece you got there Guinness
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 13-11-2011, 20:11:40
nothing to really brag about, just a quick walk past a few of my motorcycles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzy7X2NMHig
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Thorondor123 on 13-11-2011, 20:11:09
nothing to really brag about, just a quick walk past a few of my motorcycles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzy7X2NMHig
9th SS Panzer symbols and Luftwaffe number plate?

Edit: "Replacements arrived from the SS replacement units and many of the original volunteers returned from hospitals after having been wounded in Normandy. Approximately 30% of those who arrived were former Luftwaffe personnel."

OK, might explain it.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 13-11-2011, 20:11:09
nothing to really brag about, just a quick walk past a few of my motorcycles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzy7X2NMHig
9th SS Panzer symbols and Luftwaffe number plate?

Well, at least they take care of them, right?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 15-11-2011, 04:11:29
nothing to really brag about, just a quick walk past a few of my motorcycles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzy7X2NMHig
9th SS Panzer symbols and Luftwaffe number plate?

Edit: "Replacements arrived from the SS replacement units and many of the original volunteers returned from hospitals after having been wounded in Normandy. Approximately 30% of those who arrived were former Luftwaffe personnel."

OK, might explain it.

Nice bunch of original BMW R75s and Zundapp Ks 750s. My BMW R12 would fit in nicely :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: th_battleaxe on 16-11-2011, 20:11:25
how is that one doing actually, we haven't heard of your bike in a while
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 16-11-2011, 22:11:53
I have finished up my sidecar restoration just need to mount the MG34 mount and accessories. I had a problem with my motor and had to send the crank and a spare fly wheel out for repair and fitting. I should have it all together again in a few weeks. I will put up some pics when it is done.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 20-11-2011, 01:11:12
I just registerd myself at the club, delvering my shooting papers next week, by january i'll have a temporary license and within 6 months i can register a .22LR pistol and ill register my precious Swedish mauser and Mosin nagant M91/30  8)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 20-11-2011, 11:11:12
Am getting this baby for christmas.  Will post pics when gotten ;D

(http://www.middlesexvillagetrading.com/images/M77FR_right.JPG)

http://www.middlesexvillagetrading.com/M77FR.shtml
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 20-11-2011, 11:11:55
Black powder? French rifle?

Well we see you dressed up as a French soldier soon?

I am not allowed to shoot black powder rifles :( such a shame.

Looks like it has a nice restoration, where they shiny back in the day?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 20-11-2011, 19:11:26
Yes, they were.  And it's a repro, not a restoration.  And yes, its a 1777 Charleville, for my soon to be happening French Napoleonic reenacting ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Thorondor123 on 20-11-2011, 19:11:58
Right! Where's my green coat...
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 20-11-2011, 20:11:07
But not all, by chance my eye fell on one today in a shooting guild that i went to (yes, a guild, founded in 1453) The hammer and reloading stick where shiny, the barrel not. Could be coincidence, maybe not.

In the bar in the guild they have a weapons collection that is museum worthy, from spear to corssbows to black powder rifles and pistols, nothing more modern then 100 year old on the inside.

Took my mossin nagant 91/30 out for a shoot today, only stopped when the heat of the barrel made it to difficult to see my target. Was shooting corosive ammo, i am trying to find a way to make sure that the gun is cleaned properly, i am experimenting a bit, a cheap rifle is perfect for that. We don't have a big marked for this like in the us.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 20-11-2011, 21:11:10
Probably bluing on the barrel that is wearing off or something :P

That sounds like a really awesome collection though :D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 20-11-2011, 21:11:02
Right! Where's my green coat...

Dastardly green jackets!  Only a coward uses a rifle!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 21-11-2011, 20:11:28
I am not allowed to shoot black powder rifles :( such a shame.

i can have, fire, use, cuddle a blackpowder pistol or rifle, without registrating it IF its before 18 houndred something something, but i CANT have an working reprod :( stupid rules :( well, i Do got one of these buggers at my fathers place, pics wanted?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 21-11-2011, 22:11:49
I am thinking to buy a swiss helmet, just because it looks so bad. It is the wartime model, but how on earth do i know if it was made before 1945? The only markings i can see is "IX"

Pics:

(http://img.2dehands.be/f/normal/107399865-zwitserse-helm.jpg)
(http://img.2dehands.be/f/normal/107399865_1-zwitserse-helm.jpg)

I am just assuming post war, but it is rather cheap so i might buy it anyway.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Kading on 22-11-2011, 21:11:00
It's post war. The wartime ones had green paint. However, it is pretty much the same thing, so if you are putting together a wartime Swiss uniform, you could still use it (with a helmet cover on) without too many people hating on you.

Aside from that, it's a very well-designed helmet, and should serve you well when the post economic collapse revolution comes ;)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: IrishReloaded on 22-11-2011, 21:11:11
Aside from that, it's a very well-designed helmet, and should serve you well when the post economic collapse revolution comes .

Juhu im not the only one thinking that this will come.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 22-11-2011, 22:11:41
Mentlegen

A rather good looking Chilene mauser Short model. 7x57mm mauser. 250 euro. Pictures being sended soon

Whatcha think? the local gunshop sells 7x57mm mauser, and not a to bad price aswel, i might register it for sportshooting
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: th_battleaxe on 23-11-2011, 14:11:50
Vonmudra, that's exactly the musket I want. What will you be representing? Fusiliers of line?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 23-11-2011, 18:11:15
I'm 6'2", so I'm being bankrolled straight into the line grenadiers, these guys:

(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/225411_216604561700964_100000542662705_837365_1228162_n.jpg)

 :D  I GET A BIG FUR HAT! :D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 23-11-2011, 18:11:45
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drHLPZfXZwg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2gDdaF0D6w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXu-99lKQnY

going trough my head atm  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 23-11-2011, 19:11:43
Cool, we are the same height. I can be a grenadier!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: th_battleaxe on 23-11-2011, 20:11:36
So can I, the uniform is correct, only Grenadiers with that kind of jacket are late-period (imperial period), so line grenadiers shouldn't be wearing bearskins, but shakos with a huge red feathers and red trim. early periods wore the bearskin but had the standard line infantry jackets. also possible are the grenadiers of the consular guard and the old guard, but they had different shields on the bonnet.

Edit: there is supposed to be something on one of the crossbelts

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/560903320237124150/B7B53019ABCA407DD662F9CB317FB04C7E1C99B3/ (http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/560903320237124150/B7B53019ABCA407DD662F9CB317FB04C7E1C99B3/)

pic of grenadiers in Napoleon total war during the Italian campaign of 1796
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 23-11-2011, 20:11:55
THe unit I'm joining represents soldiers in Spain, and bearskins continued to be worn there for quite a long time, with grenadiers refusing to give up the bearskins, plus the constant supply problems :P  I'm also making a point of using the 1777 Charleville, and not the year IX.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: th_battleaxe on 23-11-2011, 20:11:45
there's a good man with a sense of pride for his hat
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 24-11-2011, 01:11:17
Cool, we are the same height. I can be a grenadier!
5'11... no grenadiering for me.

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 24-11-2011, 02:11:17
Actually, that would be allowed, though it would look odd by today's standards.  Back then, the French grenadier height minimum was 5'6", which meant only around 1 in 40 frenchmen could even serve in it. ;)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Eat Uranium on 24-11-2011, 04:11:56
You talking English or French feet here though?

Because 5'6" in French, is 5'10.3" in Imperial.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 24-11-2011, 16:11:36
why must you people use crazy measuring systems? metric!!!!!!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 24-11-2011, 16:11:03
Imperialists be trippin
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: th_battleaxe on 24-11-2011, 18:11:20
let's just say you're a grenadier above 1.80 meters
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 25-11-2011, 16:11:09
thats not really tall is it? but i must say, when i was in the USA in february, you guys are small :o
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 25-11-2011, 20:11:48
Back then it was.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 25-11-2011, 20:11:27
It's not tall now, but it was very tall back then.  Quite literally, only 1 in 40 frenchmen would be able to join the Grenaidiers.  Tis the reason that Napoleon wasn't actually short too :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 25-11-2011, 20:11:21
Got myself a chilene mauser Model 1895 carbine. Also made that year. Not serial matched in a rather used condition, but its a nice rifle none the less
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Butcher on 25-11-2011, 21:11:04
dont know where i heard it but the height to go to the army in france in the napolean time was lowered again and again, because all the tall guys died serving in the army and the small ones stayed and got children.

i´m 1,79m/5'10" and was told on my pattern/physical inspection that i could be everything (gebirgsjäger, pilot, even a fucking mine-diver) but not a member of the "wachbattaillon". you have to be 1,80m/5'11" for that. 1 friggin centimeter! not that i wanted to do that, but its still bugging me.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 25-11-2011, 21:11:36
Never heard about that but I do know Napoleon's empire kept lowering the age standard for his conscripted soldiers. Like in 1810 the batch of 1812 was already serving, kept getting extremer later in the wars  :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 25-11-2011, 23:11:35
It's not tall now, but it was very tall back then.  Quite literally, only 1 in 40 frenchmen would be able to join the Grenaidiers.  Tis the reason that Napoleon wasn't actually short too :P

oh :o well.. we Nords tend to be quite big...
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 25-11-2011, 23:11:56
for grenadiers- (French) 5'4" - 173.5 cm

http://napoleonistyka.atspace.com/French_infantry.html
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 27-11-2011, 12:11:52
My loot at Arlon=

One vintage condition F1 Lemon grenade of mother russia=12.5Euro
One vintage condition RG-42 grenade of mother russia=12.5 euro
A very nice book about the weapons, uniforms, badges, medals, and other equipment of Mother russia soldier during WW2=39 euro but worth it
10 .303 british deco rounds with clips=10 euro
a nice belgian army ammo metal box=5 euro

I saw alot of very nice K98's and lee-enfields today for rather low prices. They usually fetched 500-600 euro's but prices have dropped to a acceptable 300-400 euro. Few where bought..because people already have these rifles for the expensive prices

A few standouts=
-Gewehr 98 in epic condition, serial matched
-2 pattern 14 rifles. Me gusta condition
-One gewehr 43 in absolute beautifull condition. Not refurbished or re-worked, you could see it had been used though
-A MG17 luftwaffe
And a nice ZB 37
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 27-11-2011, 13:11:49
a mg26 you can get for about 400euro in germany
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 27-11-2011, 13:11:06
a mg26 you can get for about 400euro in germany
say

WHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 27-11-2011, 13:11:22
no wait, my mistake.. 500 :(

http://www.raskantik.com/

SVT40 350 euro
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 27-11-2011, 13:11:23
Hm   SVT prices are lower in belgium but MG prices seem lower in germany

OOH yes! i also got myself an epic POLISH army field ration!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 27-11-2011, 13:11:34
i wish your belgium antique websites where in english aswell, i found ALLOT of nice stuff i wanted........
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 27-11-2011, 13:11:25
WIP Oberscharführer (sergeant) :D

to you WSS haters: dont like, dont look. this is for re-enactment purpouses Only.

note original luger holster my grandfather stole :)

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00295.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 27-11-2011, 13:11:50
I have seen plenty of SS reenactors, aslong as they dont openly admit they are neonazi or shout Sieg heil it is fine by me


I have played airsoft with a NKVD uniform once, NKVD where bastards, not as worse as SS but still bastards nonetheless
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 27-11-2011, 13:11:21
well, shouldnt take everyone under the same comb, but yeah allot of them where bastards, we dismiss people with neonazi beliefs/doing unappropriate nazi stuff, like sieg heil and the arm move :)

allso, my best friend is a black metalhead!  ;D

last airsoft game we had, it was soviet and some US vs germany, a friend of mine had a full NKVD uniform! it was awesome!

a picture from that game. (http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/319990_2444299304715_1168831303_2996342_966044728_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 27-11-2011, 14:11:30
Not every soldier in SS or waffen SS was a nazi, nor a killer. Most of these men where draftees, consripts like any other soldier.

If they had to excecute a POW or civilians, they simply had to do it, because they knew they where dead if they dint.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 27-11-2011, 14:11:23
because they knew they where dead if they dint.

just like the poor russians..



oh well, my nest uniform will be either an Fallschirmjeager or a Whermacht DAK ;D

i really want to know if the whermacht used Planetree smock type 1/2 in some RARE cases...
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 27-11-2011, 14:11:40
Yep you see alot of german fanboys on WOT forums screaming about the Russian killing and plundering. If the commisar said=Kill that, you Killed that, you dint answerd anything else but=DA

oh well, nice uniform!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 27-11-2011, 14:11:07
hadnt stalin killed allsmost double as many jews as hitler (only god knows how many other) after the war and forced soldiers around, maybe i could accept todays communists..

i must say i felt a little uncomfortable with the swastikas on the WSS uniform, but their camo is so.... so.. MMMMM<3

well, my 1940 uniform will be whermacht though!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 27-11-2011, 14:11:59
Stalin dint killed many jews, Stalin killed many of his own men, Amounts can easily rise to 40 million

Yet hitler started a war wich killed 80 million men

In the end, Stalin was right

"The dead of one man is a tragedy, the death of one million is a statistic

ANYWAY


I finished devouring my Polish army W ration.The ration is in theory simular to a American MRE, but there's much diffrence

My Menu 2=
-Standard crackers. They are not very crispy but they taste better then the MRE's. The Condensed milk is DAM delicious with it!
-A huge tube of Condensed milk. Very delicious and a very good energy provider!
-Sesame cookies, i normally do not like these but they had alot of honey so pretty dam good
-A reheater WITH water to start the proces. It is much bigger then the MRE's and much more effective.
-Main course of Goulash. Very good and 4 times bigger then MRE's pathethic maincourse!
-coffee, soup, tea, sugar(alot of sugar), salt and other accesoriores. I want good coffee, and the coffee is good
-A knife spoon and fork.(FUCKKAA YOU MRE SPOON)
-A mixed drink lemon flavoured. Not bad.
-Napkins un se toilerpaper.
-Some chewing gum, some sweets

This W ration is much better then Americans MRE. Contains much more solids and tastes very good. The heating unit is also much more effective.The only thing the MRE has is more sweets, but thats it.

The guy who sold these, i know him, bought himself 20 and these where very well recieved by outdoorsman, adventure types and such. Price was expensive, 15 euro's, but thats because he had to get them Via via via via via. He is now gonna buy them directly from the factory and price will even be lower as an MRE!

Pretty dam good i'de say! a +1 for the polish W ration!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 27-11-2011, 14:11:03
Stalin dint killed many jews, Stalin killed many of his own men, Amounts can easily rise to 40 million

Yet hitler started a war wich killed 80 million men

In the end, Stalin was right

"The dead of one man is a tragedy, the death of one million is a statistic



Actually UK and France declared war on Germany and not the other way around :P


ANYWAY


Did you start obtaining bullets for your rifles, or are all deactivated?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 27-11-2011, 14:11:23
Theta, as a former soldier and devourer of army rations I can tell you that you only need a spoon, to eat army food outdoors. Knife and fork are overrated and unneeded, if your lunch is a big lump of weird-looking stuff! ^^

Also, are Polish rations "one-meal"-rations such as MREs or 24 hr rations? Did you take some pics?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 27-11-2011, 15:11:46
Theta, as a former soldier and devourer of army rations I can tell you that you only need a spoon, to eat army food outdoors. Knife and fork are overrated and unneeded, if your lunch is a big lump of weird-looking stuff! ^^

Wich is why i love my Spork! ^^
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 27-11-2011, 15:11:23
Theta, as a former soldier and devourer of army rations I can tell you that you only need a spoon, to eat army food outdoors. Knife and fork are overrated and unneeded, if your lunch is a big lump of weird-looking stuff! ^^

Also, are Polish rations "one-meal"-rations such as MREs or 24 hr rations? Did you take some pics?
One meal rations

And you will be thankfull to have that plastic knife when you need it!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 27-11-2011, 17:11:00
i really want to know if the whermacht used Planetree smock type 1/2 in some RARE cases...

Nope.  Also, tunic insignia is not put on the dot44, only camo insignia, which would be the green bars.  Also why did you give yourself a high NCO rank....
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 27-11-2011, 17:11:47
One meal rations

And you will be thankfull to have that plastic knife when you need it!
I see, you´ve never used the Bw issued spoon! :D
That thing is sharp enough to cut meat, noodles and whatever food you´re being issued. At first I used fork and knife, like a civilized person, but later I found out that it´s way more easier to use the spoon only.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 27-11-2011, 18:11:41
i really want to know if the whermacht used Planetree smock type 1/2 in some RARE cases...

Nope.  Also, tunic insignia is not put on the dot44, only camo insignia, which would be the green bars.  Also why did you give yourself a high NCO rank....
i woudlnt call sergeant high ranking :p not even in the 40's
either way, thats My decision, no? non of your concerns ;) and none of the guys have any problems with it here, other than "awesome!"
allso my decision where to put my insignia on it, as i dont own any other tunica, and my economy says No to buying anything now. and, germany had How many soldiers wearing 44dot? i can garantue you that some of them sewed the runes on it :p
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 27-11-2011, 19:11:56
i really want to know if the whermacht used Planetree smock type 1/2 in some RARE cases...

Nope.  Also, tunic insignia is not put on the dot44, only camo insignia, which would be the green bars.  Also why did you give yourself a high NCO rank....
i woudlnt call sergeant high ranking :p not even in the 40's
either way, thats My decision, no? non of your concerns ;) and none of the guys have any problems with it here, other than "awesome!"
allso my decision where to put my insignia on it, as i dont own any other tunica, and my economy says No to buying anything now. and, germany had How many soldiers wearing 44dot? i can garantue you that some of them sewed the runes on it :p

Sergeant would be one pip.  What you have there (Feldwebel in Wehrmacht, I could be fucked learning the annoying SS ranks) is Master Sergeant :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 27-11-2011, 20:11:16
Sergeant would be one pip.  What you have there (Feldwebel in Wehrmacht, I could be fucked learning the annoying SS ranks) is Master Sergeant :P
I'm not the only one suffering from that syndrome!  ;D

Oh and Snoox, go for DAK. Do it!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 27-11-2011, 22:11:17
in europe, feldwebel is sergeant (since prewar and postwar) :P nobody cares about your fucked up US ranks  ;D

@fuchs, there actually are some guys here that have german and british desert uniforms! so it is VERY tempting!  :D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 27-11-2011, 22:11:12
in europe feldwebel is sergeant :P nobody cares about your fucked up US ranks  ;D

Maybe now, but if you look at actual German WW2 rank structure, the equivlent of a buck sergeant in the American army was the Unteroffizer in the German army.  Both command a squad of men.  The Feldwebel in the German army of WW2 was a much higher rank, that could even command a platoon if there was a shortage of officers.  I did make a mistake though, the Feldwebel is the equal to the Sergeant First class.  Just the same, the Unterfeldwebel was equal to the american staff sergeant, Oberfeldwebel to Master Sergeant, and Stabsfeldwebel was equal to Sergeant Major.  The Hauptfeldwebel best falls in like with First Sergeant, however could be ordained on any NCO rank, Unteroffizer-Stabsfeldwebel, and was known commonly as Der Spiess.

Sorry, but modern German army rank structure has little or nothing to do with its predecessor :P  Feldwebel is a higher ranking sergeant.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 27-11-2011, 22:11:14
in EUROPE i say, i dont CARE about US ranking system, it has Nothing to do with whats over here.

and read my edit, it has been SERGEANT here PRE WAR and POST WAR.

jesus, stop thinking your american ranking system is right all the time, its Not.. its not like you are the wikipedia of ranking.

Feldwebel is a German military rank which has existed since at least the 18th century with usage as a title dating to the Middle Ages. The word Feldwebel is usually translated as sergeant being rated OR-6 in the NATO rank comparison scale, equivalent to the British Army Sergeant and the US Army Staff Sergeant.

in short, your american comparison can go f*uck itself  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 27-11-2011, 22:11:02
US ranks suck

My dad was a adjudant-major in the belgian airforce. Being in charge of 12 or 15 men, they dont really stand on there ranks. He once had to pick-up a US airforce mechanic. So he picked him up with his van. During the long drive(Kleine brogel is a big airbase), my dad asked, as it in tradition, if they had any Squadron badges or pins, as pilots and mechanics trade it with eachother

The guy did NOT responded.
My dad asked it again
No response
Third time=No response

So yeah, he asked=Is something wrong? Why arent you speaking with me?

The guy= I am a technical sergeant, i do NOT speak to someone lower then my rank
My dad=You see this? What rank is that? Thats Adjudant-major i am the HIGHEST what a NCO can be here! I stand ABOVE you!
God that guy SHITTED HIS PANTS=OMG I AM SORRY SIR I AM SORRY! IT WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN

He got those badges for me, suddently i was swimming in A-10 Thunderbolt badges of every squadron  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 27-11-2011, 22:11:34
over here, a sergeant can command a squad, platoon, troop. its not as much Mumbo Jumbo as in USA where you have hundreds of useless grades.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 27-11-2011, 22:11:29
Lol, Snoox, what the fuck are you writing?
US ranks are actually really slim, compared to German ranks, especially enlisted ranks.
Nowadays the Bundeswehr has 6 (!) different Private ranks, two junior NCO ranks and 6 SNCO ranks (from Feldwebel to Oberstabsfeldwebel) and one additonal officer rank.
So compared to most NATO armies the German ranking system looks rather bloated, whereas the rest of NATO forces have a really slim ranking system.

Oh, and Theta, that "my rank is more important than yours!"-behaviour isn´t purely American. I´ve met enough "Unteroffiziere" with less serving time than me as a "lowly PFC" who thought they´d be something special.
I guess it´s pretty common in all armies that have some sort of rank structure.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 27-11-2011, 22:11:06
cant you read? :p

i find neither german or american or swahili or whatever it might be ranks good. here we keep it simple as hell, Menig(Private), Korporal, Sergeant, Fenrik, Løytnant, Kaptein, Major, then some small fucked up shit up to general something.

all im saying is, FELDWEBEL IS SERGEANT HERE. end of discussion. i dont even want to read more of your american "know best" right now
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 27-11-2011, 23:11:07
Lol, you got sand in your vagina, or why are you so upset?

First you write "in Europe", now you say "in Denmark". In the future make clear what you actually want to say.
The whole of Europe isn´t Denmark and even in the NATO, which tries to bring some order into the chaotic world of international military ranks, it´s really difficult to accurately compare them.

What one country might call "Sergeant", might have another name and task in other armies. In Denmark, for example, the "Sergent" is OR-5, while a Feldwebel (or Wachtmeister in Austria) is OR-6, so technically a German Fw would outrank a Danish Sgt, even though you seem to think they´re the same.

It´s also not about "US knows best herp derp", it´s about trying to find an international standard. Because of traditions, the number of ranks in use etc. this is extremely difficult and you can´t apply your own system flawlessly to the rest of the world.

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 27-11-2011, 23:11:07
international standard, seems to be sergeant aswell. and such a rude thing to say im danish!

well yeah, im sorry. i blew off allot of steam right now, and i apoligize.

and techically speaking an US mastersergeant (or any other sergeant grade you guys have) would outrank a Norwegian løytnant, but guess what? they Dont.

and i dont apply that to the rest of the world, i formulated it wrong the first time, i admitt that, but as Mudra tried, was to force that to be the correct thing everywhere.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 27-11-2011, 23:11:35
My mistake, I thought I remembered you saying somewhere, sometimes, you´re from Denmark. Norway isn´t Denmark, of course, my bad.

"International standard" atleast in the NATO is Feldwebel=OR-6, Sergeant=OR-5.
But yeah, it´s a pretty difficult topic and in times where there are no clear responsibilities (during war times it was common that NCOs took over CO jobs or Privates stepping in for NCOs) it gets even more confusing and I´m sure where not the only people who had a discussion about this. ^^

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 27-11-2011, 23:11:38
i am so confused right now  :'(

now someone suddenly tell me its a sidegrade of sergeant "technical sergeant" something scheiss.

i give up these crazy things.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 28-11-2011, 00:11:15

and techically speaking an US mastersergeant (or any other sergeant grade you guys have) would outrank a Norwegian løytnant, but guess what? they Dont.

No, they wouldn't.  Any officer out ranks any NCO. /end.  There are no exceptions.

Also, call it WW2-themed airsoft if your attitude is "whatever, I just want to screw around and have fun"  Reenacting takes dedication, research, and authenticity.  Throwing insignia on dot44 and making yourself a Feldwebel is just airsofting with stuff that you like.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Pascucci the Whiner on 28-11-2011, 03:11:08

and techically speaking an US mastersergeant (or any other sergeant grade you guys have) would outrank a Norwegian løytnant, but guess what? they Dont.

No, they wouldn't.  Any officer out ranks any NCO. /end.  There are no exceptions.

Also, call it WW2-themed airsoft if your attitude is "whatever, I just want to screw around and have fun"  Reenacting takes dedication, research, and authenticity.  Throwing insignia on dot44 and making yourself a Feldwebel is just airsofting with stuff that you like.

As nasty as it sounds, what Mudra is saying is correct.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Kading on 28-11-2011, 05:11:45

and techically speaking an US mastersergeant (or any other sergeant grade you guys have) would outrank a Norwegian løytnant, but guess what? they Dont.

No, they wouldn't.  Any officer out ranks any NCO. /end.  There are no exceptions.

Also, call it WW2-themed airsoft if your attitude is "whatever, I just want to screw around and have fun"  Reenacting takes dedication, research, and authenticity.  Throwing insignia on dot44 and making yourself a Feldwebel is just airsofting with stuff that you like.

Quite correct. Even the most senior NCO with 30 years of service has to salute a bottom level officer fresh out of the academy.

Also agree about the "reenacting" stuff. Nothing wrong with dressing like its WW2 and fooling around in the woods, but unless you have an obsessive attention to detail and historical accuracy, don't call yourself a reenactor.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 28-11-2011, 12:11:54
hm hmmhmm

seems like i must search the world for the picture of a captures something'th SS with the runes in he's 44dot, its OK if you guys over there want to keep it completly strict to the book, but remember this was a war. things Aint gonna be done after the book. i know i have seen One picture of an 44dot with runes on.

allso, its non of your beeswax what grade i "give" myself, we are not many enough people to have a serious ranking, there some of us go for ncos as noone else have those grades.

and kading, thats just Ass talk, equipment doesnt define if your an re-enactor or not, as long as the intension the either re live or learn people.

all our people here disagree with your "44dot did never have any runes on them" typical your american re-enacting "know best no matter what"
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 28-11-2011, 13:11:30
Rub the sand out already, geesh.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Pascucci the Whiner on 28-11-2011, 17:11:31

intension the either re live or learn people.


Well, you're not coming close to re-living anything and it's a bit difficult to help people learn about something that you know nothing about.

Quote
typical your american re-enacting "know best no matter what"

Nice mass generalization. You obviously know nothing of Americans, around here most self proclaimed "reenactors" are just like you.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 28-11-2011, 18:11:01
That photo you talk about is an exact photo that I posted.  It was done once or twice.  Once or twice does not mean LOL EVERYBODY.  Like you said, it's war.  No one honestly CARED enough to do sewing.  That one photo?  That was of Estonian SS troops, who had a certain pride in their insignia as estonians.  You simply do NOT see Germans doing it.  There's a reason photos like that stand out, because they're WEIRD.  Because you simply do not see that ever happening, so it's a neat "oh, look at that" like other photos I could post here, guys with no swastikas on their eagle (Ramcke), or jumping motorcycles through rings of fire.  Just because there's a single photo, doesn't mean that everyone did that.  One important thing about reenacting is doing research.  You obviously have done none, especially if you're coming here asking if Wehrmacht ever wore SS camo, and sewing insignia onto your dot44.

Reenacting here in the USA is taking seriously because we view it as a real interpretation and learning experience.  That means things have to be done right, or else you are learning false information, and teaching false information to the public at public events.  There are airsoft reenactors here too, and they are BARRED from events due to this.  You are just doing WW2-themed airsoft.  You are NOT reenacting.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 29-11-2011, 01:11:41
That photo you talk about is an exact photo that I posted.  It was done once or twice.  Once or twice does not mean LOL EVERYBODY.  Like you said, it's war.  No one honestly CARED enough to do sewing.  That one photo?  That was of Estonian SS troops, who had a certain pride in their insignia as estonians.  You simply do NOT see Germans doing it.  There's a reason photos like that stand out, because they're WEIRD.  Because you simply do not see that ever happening, so it's a neat "oh, look at that" like other photos I could post here, guys with no swastikas on their eagle (Ramcke), or jumping motorcycles through rings of fire.  Just because there's a single photo, doesn't mean that everyone did that.  One important thing about reenacting is doing research.  You obviously have done none, especially if you're coming here asking if Wehrmacht ever wore SS camo, and sewing insignia onto your dot44.

Reenacting here in the USA is taking seriously because we view it as a real interpretation and learning experience.  That means things have to be done right, or else you are learning false information, and teaching false information to the public at public events.  There are airsoft reenactors here too, and they are BARRED from events due to this.  You are just doing WW2-themed airsoft.  You are NOT reenacting.

Well said.If you were to show up to an invite only reenactment with that on a Dot44 tunic you would be laughed at and called a farb.Then you would be told to remove it or go home. Reenacting is taken seriously in the USA. We reenact the norm, not the exceptions. The only insignia on my Dot44 tunic is the sleeve eagle. I have well over $100K USD invested in the hobby between uniforms,equipment,firearms,and vehicles so this show how serious the hobby is taken.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 29-11-2011, 10:11:56
And in the end they run around playing soldiers, just like when they where kids.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: LuckyOne on 29-11-2011, 10:11:44
And in the end they run around playing soldiers, just like when they where kids.

Yes, but now with much more expensive toys!  ::)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 29-11-2011, 14:11:47
it is quite obvious that euros are more flexible and waaaay less stubborn than this  ::)
im just saying, i have seen a picture with a 44dot with runes on it, there is No harm reproducing it, if you dont like that.. sucks to be you  ::) and surely havnt said everyone with a 44dot or camo had runes on them? NO, i said some people are bound to have done it. wer are talking about millions of soldiers here. dont come here "teach" me no one did this  ::)

and bmw, yeah! let the pricetag decide! :D that shows Dedication. no, really.. i know people here that know more about ww2 than this forum combined, yet they dont own Shit.

now, have a nice day :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 29-11-2011, 17:11:19
it is quite obvious that euros are more flexible and waaaay less stubborn than this  ::)

Ok, go to the English, Polish, Spanish, or Russian units and try that.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 29-11-2011, 17:11:21
You be drivin kettenkrad, they be hatin
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 29-11-2011, 17:11:25
it is quite obvious that euros are more flexible and waaaay less stubborn than this  ::)

Ok, go to the English, Polish, Spanish, or Russian units and try that.
As a euro i agree.

Germans aswel, with there "superioty" attitude and so called "Precise engineering"..There nationalistic ideals, there plan to invade Europe again

...
oh wait

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Yustax on 29-11-2011, 19:11:08
I have never been to a reenacting event; and I say that if I saw people with inaccurate gear, I would frown upon them and leave. I dont like inaccuraccy. Perhaps it's the most important thing to be present about.

I remember an event where an officer wore a white summer smock...in a plain spring setting, being a very easy target.

Now, is that what a german officer will do? No.

And I concur with Mudra; accuraccy is perhaps the most important thing in the units. Hell, I would even put a year of the war events, to have gear not forward that certain year, to have proper accuraccy.

So Snoox, please, let it to the experts and them explain to you. Mudra practically lives there so he knows his stuff, stop being stubborn.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 29-11-2011, 19:11:05
guys let us PLEASE not turn this into a pointless discussion about countries again.....
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Eat Uranium on 29-11-2011, 19:11:43
Please try to play nicely children, or I'll have to take off my belt.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 29-11-2011, 21:11:42
so basicly, no shoulderboard/rune bling bling on camo tunics?

oh and mudra.. tsk tsk tsk.. i spy with my little eye, an whermacht panzer officer with planetree.. guess you arnt all-knowing after all  :P and AY AY AY! bling bling on it!

(http://www.pbase.com/pangaea95/image/73585523.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 29-11-2011, 22:11:19
Panzerwraps were often SS camo.  It was called Wehrmacht guys getting what they could get.  Are you putting together a panzer impression?  I think not.  I can also show you a photo of a FJ officer in Monte Cassino wearing an SS plane tree smock.  Does that mean it was done else where?  Nope.  It's a one off case, the officer was known for liking that camo type.  SS troops also sometimes had splinter helmet covers, field made from zelts.  That is actually common enough that it should be in reenacting in sparse amounts.

And basically, yep, unless you're an officer, no bling on camo.  Officers do it because, well, they can AFFORD it.  They wore camo tunics because they could afford buying them, tailoring them, and buying insignia for them.  As they were not issued, they had to pay out of pocket for them.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 30-11-2011, 01:11:15
Now the flute had another tone  ;)

you be calling this a panzerwrap tunic? I think not.

and unless you claim needle and thread costs as much as a generals tunic, i call Bullshit.

soldiers made theyr own fieldmade tunics out zelltbahns and god knows what else, and you say they couldnt afford sewing on a small piece of wool? todays best mudra.. todays best..

and i say once again, i never said everyone did this, but there will allways be individuals wo did these kind of things, and all i did was to reproduce one of those.

no, i be calling that 44dot ordinary tunic ;)

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/wieuzfbg.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 30-11-2011, 01:11:57
stop arguing or i will cry.


Got a job, what to invest my monies in??? New uniforms, guns?  so much to choose from!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 30-11-2011, 01:11:40
apparently germany and belgium sells cheap ww2 guns!

china sells good repro uniforms, unless you really hit a bummer, mudra told me once their wool is bad and wouldnt take it as a bad advice, i could name you lots of good websites that dosnt have a pricetag that shoots to the moon, i can allso list you websites i have had bad experience with.

these two are the better de-ac sites i know of, though i havnt seen em all :p

www.zib-militaria.com iam not 110% sure about this guy.. but seems legit..

http://www.raskantik.com confirmed trustable, allso this guy allso got a flammenwerfer! :O at a price that is..
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Yustax on 30-11-2011, 02:11:19
Quick question. Do all guns used for reenacting must be deactivated? What if you bring a mauser k98k and load it with blanks?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 30-11-2011, 02:11:23
depends from country to country i guess
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 30-11-2011, 05:11:44
Quick question. Do all guns used for reenacting must be deactivated? What if you bring a mauser k98k and load it with blanks?

In the USA we use blanks and semi/full auto need an adaptor to make them cycle blanks.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 30-11-2011, 06:11:34
Now the flute had another tone  ;)

you be calling this a panzerwrap tunic? I think not.

and unless you claim needle and thread costs as much as a generals tunic, i call Bullshit.

soldiers made theyr own fieldmade tunics out zelltbahns and god knows what else, and you say they couldnt afford sewing on a small piece of wool? todays best mudra.. todays best..

and i say once again, i never said everyone did this, but there will allways be individuals wo did these kind of things, and all i did was to reproduce one of those.

no, i be calling that 44dot ordinary tunic ;)

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/wieuzfbg.jpg)

Um, dude, Dot44 tunics ALL had shoulder boards, and used them.  And a knights cross is not insignia, it's an award that german soldiers would wear at all times if they were awarded them, no matter what tunic they had on.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 30-11-2011, 06:11:36

www.zib-militaria.com iam not 110% sure about this guy.. but seems legit..


Been buying guns and gadgets from this guy for years now. 120% trustable.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 30-11-2011, 12:11:49

www.zib-militaria.com iam not 110% sure about this guy.. but seems legit..


Been buying guns and gadgets from this guy for years now. 120% trustable.

he says he have paypal, but i am yet to find it, any clues?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 30-11-2011, 14:11:33

www.zib-militaria.com iam not 110% sure about this guy.. but seems legit..


Been buying guns and gadgets from this guy for years now. 120% trustable.

he says he have paypal, but i am yet to find it, any clues?

I dont know. I dont use paypal at all.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Ciupita on 30-11-2011, 14:11:57
Email (use that contact) him and ask if you can't find it.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 06-12-2011, 22:12:52
Today I became technician/mechanicsdude on this baby!

M2A2/A1 m101a1 light howitzer! this is howitzer II out of III
its barrel is a 1942 issue with a 1953 carriage

used for salute on special days :)

Allso, i got my original Umbral goggles today, recognize them from a playermodel?  ;D
they are 1930's unissued ones. the pouch says Ultrasin 55% or 35% seems more like 35 :)

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00305.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00306.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00307.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00308.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00309.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00310.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00311.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00312.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00313.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00314.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00315.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00316.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00317.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00318.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00319.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00320.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00321.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00322.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00323.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00324.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 06-12-2011, 23:12:42
Awesome!!! And nice goggles!!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 06-12-2011, 23:12:44
they where costy, and i got kinda trolled by ebay, two days after i ordered for 130bucks (with shipping) they where on ebay for, what? 50bucks? though they wernt as nice :o

hopefully we will get our new tires for these badboys soon! next thirsday its the, reciever? or what its called. turn to get a brush up and test! canon 1 works perfect now and i got my 105 crew training approved by the canon chief.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 07-12-2011, 09:12:07
Really, 50 bucks, and you paid 130?  Dust goggles usually go here for like 5-10 bucks....
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 07-12-2011, 11:12:14
2 pop up on my favorite militaria site...
Snoox     you got ripped


Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 07-12-2011, 13:12:43
I want dem goggles!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 07-12-2011, 14:12:08
i actually baught them from that IMA store, then i saw the other stuff on ebay,

oh well luckeliy 130bucks is like.. nothing of my 2week salary wich is about 1900dollars, so its Ok :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 07-12-2011, 17:12:06
Bought 20 lee enfield Stripper clips for 18 euro. A bargain as these usually cost 2-3 euro's each here
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 07-12-2011, 17:12:23
Oh damn it theta buy me something once in a while :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 07-12-2011, 17:12:03
Oh damn it theta buy me something once in a while :P
Come to belgium and bring that lovely lass that was once on your photos on FHA forum  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 07-12-2011, 17:12:43
Oh damn it theta buy me something once in a while :P
Come to belgium and bring that lovely lass that was once on your photos on FHA forum  ;D

I will take a that one off your hands instantly :D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 07-12-2011, 17:12:39
Oh damn it theta buy me something once in a while :P
Come to belgium and bring that lovely lass that was once on your photos on FHA forum  ;D

I will take a that one off your hands instantly :D
The strippers? sure, that lovely lass? NO you has yours already!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 07-12-2011, 19:12:16
ooooo reprod german medic pouches in ebay!  /buy  ;D

sweet, new 110cm EM belt for my winter uniform and medic pouch on the way!

dont worry mudra, no strange insignias on that one! haha  ;D
did they put arm eagle on them? the "kharkov" winter parkas that is.

allso, ANYONE know where i can get parts for ZF4 scope mount? i am missing the metal piece/rail that the mount slides onto
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 07-12-2011, 19:12:48
That is hard to find, and if you find it i bet you that it is a repro. Many many people are looking for those.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 07-12-2011, 20:12:42
dont worry mudra, no strange insignias on that one! haha  ;D
did they put arm eagle on them? the "kharkov" winter parkas that is.

Nope. :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 08-12-2011, 00:12:17
Damn it, i need that damn piece to fit it on my stg properly..
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: GuinNess on 11-12-2011, 19:12:50
Hey guys i have a question. Next friday there is a nightvigil in Tandel (Luxembourg) were i'll have to stand with a torch next to a monument for the 26th Yankee Devision. Now my question: As I will wear an US coat, did they put rank insignas on the coats?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 11-12-2011, 20:12:32
Yes.  Enlisted insignia also goes on both sleeves.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: GuinNess on 11-12-2011, 20:12:26
Yes.  Enlisted insignia also goes on both sleeves.

Thank you VonMudra
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 12-12-2011, 01:12:39
i have ordered 1black medicpouch as i will have an 98k pouch in the other side, allso going to order a medic waterbottle and a tornister pack i sew the round medic mark on, as i am Not ever gonna pay 800bucks for a medic tornister. anything else you can point out i need for a BASIC medic impression? just the very important stuff to begin with :) did the medic use the tornister pack with Canvas instead of horsefur aswell or was it horsefur only?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 12-12-2011, 01:12:26
Yes, canvas was used too.  Also, you can use a MG ammo box (the rectangular metal ones), painted white with a red cross.  Also, arm band isn't required, as German medics found it made them a target for russian snipers (same reason they were armed).  For west front, armband and even helmet is fine, and the big apron still made appearances as late as winter or 1944/45.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 12-12-2011, 02:12:08
yes i am awaiting a repro chestpiece/apron in my mailbox in a few days actually with a armband. :)

though this is a DRK armband, dont know if this was used in field, or was this just behind the lines personel?

was thinking of a completly white helmet with crosses on each side, or a grey helmet with white circles with red cross.. ah.. decisions.. on the camouflage side its better with the grey helmet, but on the medic side its the white..
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 12-12-2011, 16:12:19
new stuff!

WaA 123 1939 mg34 barrelcarrier and a sturmmagazine  :D

i didnt find any waa stamp on the magazine, so i asume its yugo or something.. or i just hanvt found it :)

and yeeees my room is filthy.. get over it :(

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00325.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00326.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00327.jpg)
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(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00329.jpg)
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(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00332.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 12-12-2011, 18:12:21
Wunderbär!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 12-12-2011, 18:12:28
was thinking of maybe rebluing the mg34, as it shines... green O.o yes,, green.. what the hell have those viva guys been doing :o
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 12-12-2011, 18:12:02
was thinking of maybe rebluing the mg34, as it shines... green O.o yes,, green.. what the hell have those viva guys been doing :o
Is it green colour or blued green?
because this is possible. Same reason that you can find some russian weapons with a "Reddish brown" shine

Be carefull when you reblue things. Do this by a proffesional. I used to blue metal. And son! you have to do it right!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 12-12-2011, 18:12:22
oh i have done it a few times ^^ have to be more carefull when it comes to aluminum though.

but yeah its "blued" green, not really noticable before you point light on it.. was allso thinking of maybe browning it? would be fun.


allso that mag needs a new layer of paint, i dont like it as it is.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 12-12-2011, 18:12:56
Ok than, good luck  :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 12-12-2011, 18:12:57
but ill probably give it someone who Really knows whats going on with those nasty chemicals ^^

dont wanna fuck up something this expensive  : o


anyone know where the get the green paint used on the mags?
or what colour code it is
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 12-12-2011, 18:12:55
but ill probably give it someone who Really knows whats going on with those nasty chemicals ^^
meh i once drank a bit when i recieved 1 liter of it on my face

i am still breathing and grammer fine is
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 12-12-2011, 19:12:23
haha, so yeah lets get drunk on the shit then!  :P

and ill try to get rid of the cnc marks everywhere, you know the.. scratches from the knife/cutter or what its called in english.. :) to get a smooth finish to it.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 12-12-2011, 19:12:11
ah! i belive it says a.u. 44 on the magazine, it says u. 44 atleast! this is exciting!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 12-12-2011, 19:12:41
WaA123 = W.F. Co.

To bad i can't find out where this company was located, or what it's full name was.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 12-12-2011, 22:12:29
i payed 5 euros for this pilotka and the accesoires
(http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/315/hg021.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: th_battleaxe on 13-12-2011, 20:12:10
pilotka=win

double eagle? tsarist badge?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 13-12-2011, 20:12:09
pilotka=win

double eagle? tsarist badge?
Yep, origenal one. The seller thought it was replica  ;D it WASSENT  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: th_battleaxe on 13-12-2011, 20:12:52
how much for that badge? ;)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 13-12-2011, 21:12:41
Um, modern russian army uses the double headed eagle too :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: th_battleaxe on 13-12-2011, 21:12:15
even with the tsarist symbols and the St. George and the dragon emblem?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 13-12-2011, 21:12:11
how much for that badge? ;)
(http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-ash2/187888_167359756658519_526647_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: th_battleaxe on 13-12-2011, 21:12:47
I thought so
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 13-12-2011, 21:12:40
Found some stuff at work in a box for 500 small screws. (normally when i go on a search at work i find 20+ year old porn mags) Seriously, abandoned air raid shelters are awesome. I should take pictures of those that we have at work, 1 even has bomb damage.

1944 stg 44 clip and 1943 .30 for carbine rounds.
(http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/9343/imag0553b.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Pascucci the Whiner on 13-12-2011, 21:12:12
Quote
even with the tsarist symbols and the St. George and the dragon emblem?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Banner_of_the_Armed_Forces_of_the_Russian_Federation_%28obverse%29.svg

yes.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 14-12-2011, 07:12:06
@Siben
StG 44 clip? I thought it only took mags?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 14-12-2011, 07:12:18
its for reloading the mag  :) (http://luger.gunboards.com/uploaded/drm2m/200652321622_MP44%20cartridges%20loading%20tool%20stripper%20clip%20not%20my%20photo.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 14-12-2011, 18:12:08
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9hmNrUNP4Y
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 18-12-2011, 01:12:54
For some reason, the messenger is blocking me from replying to your PM, Sn00x.  Anyways, don't you have y-straps?  That will solve your problem :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 18-12-2011, 01:12:13
ofcourse i have, but they dont. wich is kinda getting annoying
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 18-12-2011, 02:12:31
Ah. Then yep, you are out of luck.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 19-12-2011, 04:12:52
its for reloading the mag  :) (http://luger.gunboards.com/uploaded/drm2m/200652321622_MP44%20cartridges%20loading%20tool%20stripper%20clip%20not%20my%20photo.jpg)

I need one of those for my MP44 :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 19-12-2011, 05:12:52
http://www.keepshooting.com/mp44-magazine-loader.html

10 bucks? totally worth it :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 19-12-2011, 05:12:35
Nice find, the repros were gone for a few years. I am supised to see them again. They will look good in my pouches for reenacting. (http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x260/bmwr12/pouch.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 19-12-2011, 06:12:18
Nice pouches you got there  ;)

this is a nice one i got, cant remember if i posted it before, but i aint gonna scroll through all those pages.

its funny that the piece of paper is still in this good condition, and yes i am fully aware that the stielhand is not supposed to be in it.

either way, i figured it obviously is 98k granade box  :) never seen any of these around before.

allso note that those grenades are for Throwing, i aint spending huge amounts of money on high quality grenades to throw around.

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00278-1.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00277-1.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00276.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00275-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 19-12-2011, 06:12:28
yes, that is a really nice rifle grenade box. Thanks for the compliment on the pouches. It is and still is pretty hard to find nice, correct MP/STG 44pouches. They are made on original material and if the tools pouch leather matched the rest they would look original.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 19-12-2011, 06:12:39
i actually taught they where real for a second.. haha  :D but yes, they are very nice and have that special colour to them, wich is cool in its own way. not that i know allot about mp44 pouches (close to nothing), but have more or less "never" seen that colour.. really cool  ;)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 19-12-2011, 06:12:23
Real MP44 pouches bring $3000 USD+ if you can find a set. There are soo many fakes made in Czech. I am happy with my $250 USD repro set.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 19-12-2011, 06:12:32
i can get a realsteel (de-ac) mg34 here for 2000$.. but 3000 for some puches? that. is. insane.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 19-12-2011, 06:12:38
You have to realize the rarity game. Their were far more Mg34s made then MP44 pouches. They are very very sought after.  In the US you would pay $20K+ USD for a full auto MG34 and $2,500-4K or so for a semi only. A dummy Mg34 cost around $1000.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 19-12-2011, 15:12:04
A new toy. Since i had the short one it would be silly not to buy a long one as well.

Steyr made M95 long but adapted for the new cartridge (8x56R)

(http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/209/dsci0036h.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 19-12-2011, 15:12:12
You have to realize the rarity game. Their were far more Mg34s made then MP44 pouches. They are very very sought after.  In the US you would pay $20K+ USD for a full auto MG34 and $2,500-4K or so for a semi only. A dummy Mg34 cost around $1000.

really? 20k?  :o i can get One (yes only 1) for under 1000 bucks here (fully auto/semi). that needs a new barrel and reciever that is. but the guy has those aswell  :P and its a private guy.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 19-12-2011, 16:12:30
The us has stupid prices for full auto guns due to some silly law and import bans. The real value is more like between 1 and 2 000 euro, at least here in Belgium.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 19-12-2011, 19:12:34
Well due to the incident at Luik. Our laws are gonna be changed

What is for sure
-Nagant and other old revolvers, like smith and wesson victory, Colt new service will not be "Free to purchase weapons anymore"
-AK47 in semi auto is no longer a weapon for sportshooting license. This one will be putted under full permit

Let us hope they do not change the law regarding HFD and bolt action rifles. If they get banned again, it will be tens of thousands of these back on the black market and a flouroshing black market once again in belgium
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 19-12-2011, 19:12:01
To be honest, of the 2 people i know that have the AK none have them on the sportshooting licence, what is the point if you can only load 5 bullets in that mag.

Do a model 4 and you can load your full mag, a bit more expensive license, but so much easier in the long run.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 19-12-2011, 19:12:56
To be honest, of the 2 people i know that have the AK none have them on the sportshooting licence, what is the point if you can only load 5 bullets in that mag.

Do a model 4 and you can load your full mag, a bit more expensive license, but so much easier in the long run.
Not to mention that law will not change


But yeah, terrible incidents like that one in luik, will not be prevented by this...the weapons used where all illegal, illegal of the law. the stricter you make our law, wich is already the strictest of the entire world, the more guns end up in the black market
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 19-12-2011, 20:12:18
I wouldn't say the entire world...go try and own a gun in North Korea without being in the military ;)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 20-12-2011, 12:12:13
Belgian gun laws strict? Go a bit up north, Theta, it's far worse here.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 20-12-2011, 12:12:50
Finland has bloody strict gun laws, so strict that according current laws I am a criminal.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Viktor2a5 on 20-12-2011, 14:12:57
I wouldn't say the entire world...go try and own a gun in North Korea without being in the military ;)

I saw a docomentary, that said all North Koreans own a gun, so they can defend the homeland against the US  and its allies.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 20-12-2011, 15:12:16
Finland has bloody strict gun laws, so strict that according current laws I am a criminal.
I always knew you where criminal scum. So even de-activated guns are illegal?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Musti on 20-12-2011, 15:12:21
One word. Poland
Saying "belgian gun laws are strict" was very funny but... at least they make sense.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 20-12-2011, 16:12:43
So even de-activated guns are illegal?

Depends of their deactivation.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 20-12-2011, 16:12:49
that weapon law is in most countries flippy.. wich is why you get documentation on allot of de-ac's (comes allong with the rifle) though this is not required in norway

a friend of mine imported a Mg53, the customs teared it apart and started questioning the de-activiation (from germany), lost a few parts here and there, and after 3months it got cleared, yet Some things wernt as it should according to law.

in norway you can suffer a Hard fine or even prison.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 20-12-2011, 17:12:33
So even de-activated guns are illegal?

Depends of their deactivation.
well if it is deactivated in germany, its okay right?

You cant go any more deactivated then the germans right?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 20-12-2011, 17:12:00
it was something that the reciever wasnt cut in the exact angle.. i think it was cut on 60 degree, but norway requires 45.. or something and some parts like the barrel change still worked and bla bla bla..
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 20-12-2011, 17:12:54
it was something that the reciever wasnt cut in the exact angle.. i think it was cut on 60 degree, but norway requires 45.. or something and some parts like the barrel change still worked and bla bla bla..
but then it is better to pour molten metal in the gun ffs  ::)

The effort and money it takes to reactivate a weapon is gigantic. and GOOD luck finding a barrel. you will barely find it
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 20-12-2011, 17:12:24
Newest finnish deactivation law requires the german deactivation rules but on top of it all, the bolt must be welded solid into the chamber so you cannot even dryfire it. Basically the law insists turning guns into blocks of wood and metal.

However, guns that are deactivated before 2010 with old german standard are legal, altho importing such guns are still a questionable thing for the police. So if we were to look at my collection in the eyes of the new law, I'd be a criminal but fortunately the papers are all in order and they are legal since they have been deactivated before 2010 law changes.

If I had a live firearm and was to deactivate it, I would have to make deactivate it with current law, that is, it would have to become a solid block. This is ridiculous.

These laws came into power because some pencil fiddler thought its too easy to reactivate a deac even if its done by german standards (german standards are *good* when it comes to deactivation, mind you). So naturally they went forward with the law that would force any new deactivation done by simply welding the gun. Not only would you have to do everything you'd do according to german law, but on top of that you also need to weld it all shut. What nonsense is that??

Anyway, its far easier to get a live firearm from Sergei behind a bus stop rather than going through the trouble to get a gun reactivated. Not only would you need brand new parts but also tools and skills to do it.  ::)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 20-12-2011, 17:12:14
it was something that the reciever wasnt cut in the exact angle.. i think it was cut on 60 degree, but norway requires 45.. or something and some parts like the barrel change still worked and bla bla bla..
but then it is better to pour molten metal in the gun ffs  ::)

The effort and money it takes to reactivate a weapon is gigantic. and GOOD luck finding a barrel. you will barely find it
finding a barrel? or bying one of myprivate contacs? " give me a day. " :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 20-12-2011, 17:12:37
it was something that the reciever wasnt cut in the exact angle.. i think it was cut on 60 degree, but norway requires 45.. or something and some parts like the barrel change still worked and bla bla bla..
but then it is better to pour molten metal in the gun ffs  ::)

The effort and money it takes to reactivate a weapon is gigantic. and GOOD luck finding a barrel. you will barely find it
finding a barrel? or bying one of myprivate contacs? " give me a day. " :P
well in belgium it is difficult so i heard  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 20-12-2011, 21:12:53
a new weapon law might ruin allot for many.. they want make us paint a red tip on airsoft AND all kinds of de-acs.. what bullshit.. to "see the difference between a criminal and not" its allmost easier for a criminal to get a real deal pistol from backalley-abdhul then to buy an airsoft.............. allso , every criminal would just scrath away that redtip..
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 20-12-2011, 21:12:48
Bought=
1 DDR kampfgruppen uniform fully complete with belt, helmet, pants, everything including badges insignia
1 Hungarian army colonel uniform also fully complete with hat, belt and shit
1 Soviet VDV(airborne) uniform, also complete as above
1 Soviet Tank parade uniform, also complete
100 euros for everything :v
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 20-12-2011, 21:12:10
You are a crazy son of a bitch i tell you.

Have fun with them :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 20-12-2011, 21:12:16
You are a crazy son of a bitch i tell you.

Have fun with them :)
let us look at it this way

For a originel german overrated uniform you pay hundreds if not thousands of euros

but
when the zombie apocalypse comes, i have 4 uniforms and you only 1  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Pascucci the Whiner on 20-12-2011, 21:12:12
I'd take that Kampfgruppen uniform off ya if you'd like :).
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 20-12-2011, 21:12:48
I'd take that Kampfgruppen uniform off ya if you'd like :).

http://www.2dehands.be/verzamelen/overige-verzamelstukken/leger-oorlog-marine/nva-ddr-kampfgruppen-uniform-109639014.html?list_cat=leger-oorlog-marine

vest, pants, Hat, Helmet, Belt, gasmasker bag and ranks

Nah
MINE!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Eat Uranium on 20-12-2011, 22:12:03
allso , every criminal would just scrath away that redtip..
Would it not serve the criminal better to paint a red tip onto their gun?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 20-12-2011, 22:12:09
You are a crazy son of a bitch i tell you.

Have fun with them :)
let us look at it this way

For a originel german overrated uniform you pay hundreds if not thousands of euros

but
when the zombie apocalypse comes, i have 4 uniforms and you only 1  ;D

naa, if that happens he can one of mine  ;D


@EU, haha right  ;)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 20-12-2011, 23:12:54
a new weapon law might ruin allot for many.. they want make us paint a red tip on airsoft AND all kinds of de-acs.. what bullshit.. to "see the difference between a criminal and not" its allmost easier for a criminal to get a real deal pistol from backalley-abdhul then to buy an airsoft.............. allso , every criminal would just scrath away that redtip..

There actually have been cases of the opposite here, criminals paint a red tip on real guns, and people ignore it.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 21-12-2011, 00:12:52
this is allso something that makes this a damn bad law
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 21-12-2011, 21:12:04
Got myself

-Czech ushanka
-Mosin nagant cleaning kit + oil bottle
-German EPA Field ration(Already consumed! EPA MAKES ME STRONG)
-2 MRE's
-1 ABL/French RCIR
-one finnish army gasmask
-One russian model 1931 gasmask
-German gun oil but its pretty much "All purpose oil"
-East german Gun oil and Waterflask
-Polish field ration
And a whole bunch of other crap

God i love militaria in belgium  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 21-12-2011, 21:12:21
God i hate you for having such a big market.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 21-12-2011, 21:12:37
If I ever want to get rid of the junk I've collected, I know a place where to dump all that shit.  :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 21-12-2011, 21:12:30
yes? but my garden is much closer than belgium.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 22-12-2011, 04:12:31
Hey guys,

If you ever find something interesting, like German, or Finnish, or ESPECIALLY pre-1939 Polish/Polish army of the west stuff, give me a message, I might be interested in getting it....
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 22-12-2011, 04:12:37
i Do have a finnish waterbottle.. sadly some jerk wrote hes name on the backside of the cloth strap...
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: flyboy_fx on 22-12-2011, 19:12:34


I've got some Binocs from my Grandpa who served  in ww1... on the German side!!!  ;D I should upload all of his pictures... I really need too.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 22-12-2011, 22:12:13
got myself gun oil from the great bundeswehr. 5 Euros for a liter of this stuff. Absolutely amazing. Not to liquid, not to solid. And smells great, kinda like octoberfest


Also got east-german DDR gun oil..very dirt cheap. also excellent as above but it smells.....
funny
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 24-12-2011, 03:12:54
Guess who found the Model 24 "Potatomasher" my grandmother got during her time in the french underground?

 ;D


I'll get some pictures up soon, all I can say for sure is that it is a Model 24, the arming cord in the handle is gone (presumably de-activated, but still giving it the baby treatment), and that the end cap for the handle is nowhere in sight

Edit-o

(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/405544_2318097562834_1561363715_31779626_1148251954_n.jpg)

(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/401693_2318144804015_1561363715_31779643_1420389105_n.jpg)
Numeros/Letters are: 5SKek-HNB
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 24-12-2011, 08:12:14
Get some Easy Off Oven spray.  Should clean it up well.  Just make sure to do it outside...the fumes will get to your head |:
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 24-12-2011, 09:12:46
But the fumes are the best part!  ;)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 24-12-2011, 21:12:53
Nah, left it at my grandpas mostly because I had no room to pack it. Next time I go, I'll be sure to clean it up.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 25-12-2011, 12:12:26
can anyone identify this shell

(http://img.2dehands.be/f/normal/109938022_4-duitse-wo2-15-2cm-granaat-in-transportkrat-van-1944.jpg)

Owner claims its german
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Thorondor123 on 25-12-2011, 13:12:28
can anyone identify this shell

(http://img.2dehands.be/f/normal/109938022_4-duitse-wo2-15-2cm-granaat-in-transportkrat-van-1944.jpg)

Owner claims its german
This is what I got from it:

152 akr rj = 152 mm HE shell
AseV3 = Asevarikko 3

I would say it's Finnish.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 25-12-2011, 13:12:15
Yeah i thought so aswel, thanks alot Thorondor

People try to scam alot in belgium by claiming it is "german"

There's a german "eagle" on the shell, but i am starting to think it is fake
(http://img.2dehands.be/f/normal/109938022_6-duitse-wo2-15-2cm-granaat-in-transportkrat-van-1944.jpg)

He claims it was found in the ardennes in an arsenal, not in "norway"
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 25-12-2011, 14:12:14
What number do you guys think the WaA stamp has?

What is the factory code? WaA and factory code often are linked.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 25-12-2011, 15:12:18
038 or 058 it seems.

WaA38 -Max G. Müller, Fabrik für Lederwaren-u. Heeresbedarf, Forsthofstr. 37, Nürnberg-O, Bayern (bmd) : (44)

WaA58 jhv Metallwaren- Waffen- u. M. Budapest (HU) 1941 - 42
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 25-12-2011, 15:12:51
wich means?   ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 25-12-2011, 17:12:11
waa38 is a facotry for leatherworks it says, waa58 says "metallwaren" wich i make out to be your normal metal industry.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 25-12-2011, 22:12:55
German bias and overrated bullocks!
But one thing what the germans made epicly, is FLAREGUNS

i took my German bundeswehr GECO flaregun out for a try

(http://www.dorotheum.com/uploads/tx_ogkatalogebe/lots/39W00925_139_62632_15.jpg)

Fired a red flare(wich bursted in 6-9 little flares), a green flare(one flare) and a white one (also one)

Very impressive i'de say. And a safe alternative for fireworks
BUT THE BANG WHEN IT WENT OFF

and the recoil! MY GOD I was pretty stunned of the recoil  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Krätzer on 31-12-2011, 08:12:58
Btw. if you People own so much Weapons and other stuff, the Team is always happy about Pictures. Many many detail pictures in good Quality.
Not only about one part, pictures of every small detail a weapon has.

So if we could get some more refs it would be much easier to model, without searching the web 3 days for refs.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 31-12-2011, 08:12:00
If you guys ever need some C96 pictures I am at your service.....
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 31-12-2011, 10:12:23
i will send some of my carcano pics down because FH2's carcano's have some crucial details missing!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 31-12-2011, 11:12:46
You better send the carcano's to me, I have an excellent camera. I will then forward the pictures to the devs.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 31-12-2011, 11:12:33
Just let me know, i can give pictures for:

1895 nagant revolver, late war specs.
1891/30 nagant rifle, late was specs.

Gew 88/05
K98k, mid war specs

Portuguese 937a (98% like a 1937 made K98k)

Steys M95 Short and long version, with the interwar modifications.

Schmidt-Rubin 1896/11 Rifle
Schmidt-Rubin K31 Rifle, 1934 production

Pre war MAS36
Berthier 1907/15

WW2 specs Lee enfield No1 Mk3* and No4 Mk1 (i have the pre-war original sight, and the battle sight) and No5 Mk1

An old double barrelled shotgun, ww1 specs i dare say.

Pics can be taken at request of whatever detail you want.


Also, if it is interesting enough and WW2 then i might just buy it if you ask me nicely.
Or when i see it at a fair i can take the detailed pics you want me to.


Edit: Also, i have many of the bayonets.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Krätzer on 31-12-2011, 13:12:29
i will send some of my carcano pics down because FH2's carcano's have some crucial details missing!

Some is good  :D If you do a good "Walkaround" you should do 50-100 Fotos and make sure you have every stupid small detail.
And Profile Fotos in an good angle, since there are not many Line drawings of Handhelds out in the web.

Btw. one of our Carcanos ingame has a stamp that says "Done by Mc Gibs" or similiar =D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 31-12-2011, 13:12:08
Done by mcgibs is historical accurate  ;D

No it is the space in the upper handguard(all carcano's), the hexa reciever of the Modello 38(Was round)


ill make some soon  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 31-12-2011, 19:12:06
I can do the M91/30 for russians, K98k for Germans, SMLE for Brits...that's about it for FH2 weapons :P  Rest wouldn't work xD
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 05-01-2012, 18:01:34
Got myself an additional Mosin nagant for shooting, and surprise surprise! It has a finnish marking! SA stamped twice on the reciever. One on the round reciever, and the other one on the upper reciever
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 05-01-2012, 19:01:49
I get confused on what you have now, can you post or send me a list? just curious.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 07-01-2012, 01:01:38
Got me a ton of East german stuff in the mail today
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 07-01-2012, 13:01:58
Got me a ton of East german stuff in the mail today
SAME HERE  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: MaJ.P.Bouras on 07-01-2012, 13:01:28
Got me a ton of East german stuff in the mail today
SAME HERE  ;D

GERMAN BIAS
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 07-01-2012, 15:01:52
East german stuff is as awesome as german stuff while being cheap at the same time
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 07-01-2012, 19:01:17
Yes, nice and cheap  :)

What'd you get, Theta?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 07-01-2012, 20:01:38
rugsack, grenade pouch, AK47 magazine pouch and some pouch. i dunno, it seems like regular utility pouch.
Also water bottle
The rugsack was only 2 euros! because on the bottom side some ass spoiled some white paint on it, the kind of paint that goes on walls

But some good TLC and white spirit and this baby is as good as new!

Also a pilotka and a buff thingy, you know, you can put it in front of your mouth and such.

Also incoming this monday a kampfgruppe uniform(Finnaly! owner was with vacation)

I only need the shoes now and an airsoft AK47 resembeling the east german version and my reenactment outfit is complete!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 07-01-2012, 20:01:14
Ooh, nice nice

I've got 2 complete summer uniforms, a winter uniform, helmet&meshnet cover, cooking utensils, stove, mess kit, and a belt.  Might I reccomend a Cyma 048? It works pretty well as an AKM
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 07-01-2012, 20:01:17
I was close to buying a lovely Berthier m16 carbine, numbers matching, then i looked at the barrel and asked theta, are these seposed to be smooth bore?


I have never seen a barrel this shot out, barely anything visible in it.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 07-01-2012, 21:01:32
I was close to buying a lovely Berthier m16 carbine, numbers matching, then i looked at the barrel and asked theta, are these seposed to be smooth bore?


I have never seen a barrel this shot out, barely anything visible in it.
hahaha yeah

Saw 2 epic dutch mannlichers but they were batshit expensive

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 07-01-2012, 22:01:02
Flippy, you made my day.

I bet a Dutch M95 would be a pain to use on a range too, that 6.5mm is one of a kind as far as I know.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 07-01-2012, 22:01:52
There are companies who are sometimes make the round. Also carcano casings can be used and some bullet of a comerical round


The mannlicher at the fair was a uncommon cyclist one, costing 800 euro!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 11-01-2012, 17:01:00
@ Deleted posts by Theta: Jesus christ, that kind of posting has to stop. That is pointless, that is stupid.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: IrishReloaded on 11-01-2012, 17:01:41
the warbear has spoken.

(http://sortofaprotestblog.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/674654-ra3_warbear_bg_super.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 11-01-2012, 20:01:56
@ Deleted posts by Theta: Jesus christ, that kind of posting has to stop. That is pointless, that is stupid.
jesus christ you cant have any sort of fun here anymore, It doesnt harm anyone if i do it here in the militaria thread?

Anyway
it is a czech mauser.

A rather intresting model.
All the wood exept the upper hand guard is from a K98. It also has the heavy buttplate
However, the reciever and upper handguard, are from a standard Czech mauser, like the VZ 24/33 and such. The bolt is the same as the K98, aswel as the little cut in wood for easier bolt handling

The reciever holds the Czechoslovakia weapon crest, in a beautifull condition.

(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQwtnHu2OhvcTrnY_cVx-Hiap4Wwqy0mdfyWYKMCKFLKJczlCQbZT9Tj8hwXg)
side of the reciever=Ceskoslovakia Zbrojovka BRNO
I'll take some photo's tommorow.

So yeah, not sure wich modell. Could be one produced for czechslovkia itself DURING the nazi occupation. VZ 24 production was stopped and Brno had to make K98's.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 12-01-2012, 23:01:31
Foto's are made, sorry for not so supergood quality

(http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/3854/bild0338.jpg)
(http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/6717/bild0339.jpg)
(http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/6774/bild0341w.jpg)
(http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/1221/bild0342m.jpg)
(http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/8195/bild0343d.jpg)
(http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/8839/bild0344t.jpg)
(http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/2432/bild0331.jpg)


I still am not sure wich exact model this is. It resembles the K98 alot, exept for the upper handguard, reciever and sights. But i highly doubt it is fake. Many things resemble from czech mauser production, like the type of wood and such
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Stefan on 12-01-2012, 23:01:58
buy a type 56 and put the original east german folding stock on it which you find easely on the net for around 100 euros.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 12-01-2012, 23:01:16
buy a type 56 and put the original east german folding stock on it which you find easely on the net for around 100 euros.
What?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Stefan on 14-01-2012, 04:01:07
what part isnt clear....?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 14-01-2012, 09:01:45
well why would i do that for a czech mauser? ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: th_battleaxe on 20-01-2012, 19:01:39
Vonmudra, I need some info. My grandfather has recently built a french dragoon figurine and he has some questions about the uniform and equipment. Firstly: are there any dragoons in your group? Secondly; do they have a second crossbelt for the bayonet and the sword. Thirdly: is the normal Charleville 1777 a useful replacement for the 1777 Dragoon model?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 21-01-2012, 00:01:40
Muddy is off re-enacting, he ought to be back around sundayish. When he hops on steam, I'll direct him 'ere
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: th_battleaxe on 21-01-2012, 11:01:09
thx Hi ;)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 22-01-2012, 16:01:56
Today was a good day at arlon, pictures are coming up off my loot.

The most important thing what i got is a chinese Chiang Kai-shek rifle in GREAT condition. Serial matched and in a excellent wood condition and a very good metal condition. You can see that someone used this rifle, a few minor scratches here and there and the barrel shows sign of usage(But still very nice grooves). Yet for 160 Euro's! Amazing. The rifle was also made in one of the better arsenals.

However the guy who was selling them forgot his licenses back home. He was able to show the rifles, but not sell them. After some Long begging he decided that if i gave him 100 euro's, he kept the rifle stowed away for me untill the next militaria fair.
The total i have to pay is 160 euros(So  still 60 euros in 2 weeks). In 2 weeks i got for 160 euro's a Very nice chinese Chiang Kai shek rifle. Chinese mausers are very rare here. But nobody was intrested in it. One guy picked it up and it went like this.

=Ooh nice K98 but this one feels a bit lighter and?   OOH i see CHINESE COPIED BULLCRAP and he rudely putted the gun back in place. Prancing showpony. Its a very nicely made chinese piece of epicness from a forgotten part of history of WW2!

 The guy who sold it once again proves how awesome he is. I bought from him many times, Siben aswel. He always has GREAT rifles for low prices.

My other loot=
(http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/9893/22012012097.jpg)
(http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/7920/22012012098.jpg)
The second most epic find was this already used M72A3 LAW from the belgian army. Everything in great condition and only 20 euro's! LAW's that are expended are very popular products here and usually fetch 40 euro
(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/1551/22012012099.jpg)
One steyr mannlicher Ammo pouch(Bad condition but only 5 euro), 3 boxes of East german Schnapps in 4 variants! VERY dam good deutsche epicness. And 2 packages of 50 4.5mm airgun pellets wich explode on impact(Well, its like a small firecracker)
(http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/6098/22012012100.jpg)
53 Blank 7.62x39mm Mother russia rounds. A East german kalashnikov AK cleaning kit and a belgian tear gas rifle grenade.(Origenally intended for urban combat, later used by riot police)

(http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/8873/22012012101.jpg)
US army gasmask manual, US army M60 Manual and Soviet army engineer demolition sack(In this, various types of explosives where putted in, shamefully no explosives sold with it :()

(http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/8545/22012012102.jpg)

And the last thing being an epic Soviet russia desert tunic from 1961. Complete with hat, jacket and pants. My Mobile phone camera sucks to capture the true awesomeness of this rifle



WW2 militaria wise, not much to see.standard Mauser and Lee enfield. Exept for 4 springfield rifles of various models. however..3 where refurbished. One very nice Pattern 14 rifle also. But these are so...batshit expensive.

One major dissapointment in humanity came from a person who claimed to have a very rare model of K98k manufactured prewar. 1937!So yeah, a huge crowd around it
But i looked upon it, and i just heard in my head=its a TRAP
So i said to the seller rather loudly and discrete=Pre war K98k's dont have heavy buttplates and they dont have the later sights (Pre war K98's from that date have those other front sights)

So yeah, his little scam was quickly seen trough when people examined the K98 very closely and came to the conclusion it was re-stamped and put together from 3 K98's.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 22-01-2012, 17:01:02
What kind of market is that, Theta? Some sort of flea market, but for military stuff? o0
Fortunately there´s no such thing where I live, otherwise I´d spend my money on all sorts of old military stuff...
Anyway, this[/rl] might be interesting for some. A US WW2 veteran displays the loot he brought back from his time in Europe. A rifle, A Luger and various other things, such as uniform parts, badges, medals etc.  (http://imgur.com/a/vAHCT/noscript)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 22-01-2012, 17:01:47
Militaria fairs are common in belgium and are dedicated to Militaria items. Pretty much everything of the military
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: ksl94 on 22-01-2012, 17:01:18
That is some really outstanding equipment you purchased THeTA! Congratulations! BTW IIRC you bought an SMLE a while ago. Just out of curiosity what does one of these cost in Europe? In Fort Worth I could have purchased one for around 400$, I could still slap myself that I didn't buy it. It was in ecxcellent condition, wood and metal parts uncorroded and clean, the rifling was like new and the bolt could be operated smooth as silk. It was produced in 1940. Again, I am still angry that I didn't decide to purchase this splendid rifle.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 22-01-2012, 18:01:05
That is some really outstanding equipment you purchased THeTA! Congratulations! BTW IIRC you bought an SMLE a while ago. Just out of curiosity what does one of these cost in Europe? In Fort Worth I could have purchased one for around 400$, I could still slap myself that I didn't buy it. It was in ecxcellent condition, wood and metal parts uncorroded and clean, the rifling was like new and the bolt could be operated smooth as silk. It was produced in 1940. Again, I am still angry that I didn't decide to purchase this splendid rifle.
Well i bought a No 4. But 400 dollars for such a SMLE is a good price mayte. Those types easily fetch 500 euros here.

Siben and others have SMLE's, they can fill you in about it
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 22-01-2012, 18:01:57
No4 i bought for €350. SMLE i bought for €350 as well. Normal prices now are €400 to €450.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: ksl94 on 22-01-2012, 20:01:52
Thank you for the information.  :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 22-01-2012, 20:01:11
Keep in mind, prices can vary a lot depending on the country you are from.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 22-01-2012, 20:01:15
Yep, it all depends on country of origin, how it was used and how far it is from the originating country

A springfield might cost 350 dollars in the US, that same springfield can cost 700 euros here
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Yustax on 22-01-2012, 21:01:17
Not quite. I have seen Springfields 1903A3 in 500 to even 1000 and 2000 dollars if they are Smith Corona.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 22-01-2012, 21:01:54
I saw 2 today costing 1400 euro's indeed, thats my point. A common model in the US can cost easily twice to three times here
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: ksl94 on 22-01-2012, 21:01:18
One legal question I have, I will soon get the uniform (the tropical uniform as worn in NA) of the 42nd Highland Division (the Black Watch). If I'd go to Great Britain for reenactment, and I afterwards leave the event, may I leave on the uniform (for example if I ride to my hotel and decide to get a coffee on the way and therefore enter a public area)? Please note that the uniform has been replaced with various camo-patterns for decades, and it therefore is no longer official, however I am unsure about the insignia, since it is from the black watch. That proud regiment has been amalgated into one large regiment together with various other regiments, and now continues to exist as a battalion. In the United States for example you are not allowed to wear any type of item that has been issued once which displays the EGA. Yustax is right there, Springfields are a rarity. I found some at 500 dollars, but they were literally falling apart  :-X .
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 25-01-2012, 20:01:02
My growing bullet collection, all working, the 8mm lebel is a dud though.
(http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/5448/imag0587h.jpg)

from left to right. Unknown .177, .22 short, 9mm flobert, .22 long, 9x19 luger, 9mm flobert, 8mm lebel (revolver) .38 special, .30 (for m1 carbine), 7.92x33 (for STG44), .223 rem ( basicly 5.56x45mm like most western assault rifles), 7.62x39 (ak47), .303 british (lee enfield), 7.62x54 (mosin nagant), 7x57R, 7.5x55 (Schmidt Rubin), 7.65×53 (Belgian mauser), 7.92x57 (mauser)

Also have the .50 and .55 boys bullet still.

Hope to get it bigger in the coming months.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 03-02-2012, 04:02:07
1777 Charleville Musket, reproduced by Middlesex Village Trading Company.  Fully functional, and bloody beautiful <3.  It is also almost as tall as my mom, and taller than one of my best friends xD

(http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/2328/img0659iq.jpg)

The gun itself.  It was hard to find an area where I could get the entire gun in the picture, it's so long x3

(http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/2429/img0662rf.jpg)

The lock and firing pan from the side

(http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/3500/img0665uz.jpg)

Close up on the lettering/makermark

(http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3140/img0668pn.jpg)

The cheek piece cut out, so you can move your head to a better position in line with the barrel, for better aiming.

(http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/5672/img0670f.jpg)

The frizzen and flashpan, as viewed from the top
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: th_battleaxe on 03-02-2012, 10:02:38
Very nice indeed, vonmudra. How's the uniform coming along? Found your bearskin already?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 03-02-2012, 21:02:47
Does it have the crest on the stock?

Edit: Sorry, i think the proper name is cartouche.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 05-02-2012, 00:02:13
my NVA east german DDR uniform is now complete for 95%

I was able to buy gloves and the Y belt's today
anyone euhm, know how these work? lol

i also got my chiang-kai-chek rifle from china. photos tommorows
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 05-02-2012, 01:02:31
The Y straps to put it all on?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 05-02-2012, 01:02:05
The Y straps to put it all on?
well ....ye ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 05-02-2012, 05:02:58
Ok then, seeing as I don't actually have my Y-straps at this house, pretend they are there.

Not the same as the ones we have, but you know, close enough.
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSkMAfjXHneMWmLXv3w9r5OI135qBF0-bhSl3aKgX7MIUoMruEzsFMonqlg)

Put on pants
Take smallest part of Y strap
Hook the U into the little D shaped metal ring in the back.
Make it so the back of the U faces away from your back.
Drape Y straps over shoulders like hillbilly with suspenders
Connect other two Us to front of pants Ds
Make sure the back of those Us face away from you (They should be)


Now you know how to wear pants! \o/
(http://www.theparaverse.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/TheMoreYouKnow.gif)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 05-02-2012, 19:02:40
I bought myself some ammo pouches for my K98k, i think i am getting serious for buying the gear for a 1943 impression. Not sure if i will take luftwaffe (those that saw combat) or heer though. Don't even know how the gear all looked like. Anybody has some tips + links to websites with pictures of everything that i need?

Made by Wittkop & Co in Bielefeld 1939

(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg806/scaled.php?server=806&filename=ammok981.png&res=medium)

(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg191/scaled.php?server=191&filename=ammok982.png&res=medium)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 06-02-2012, 19:02:36
(http://operatorchan.org/g/arch/src/g6517_WWII%20German%20Combat%20Equipment.jpg)

Don't mind the SS uniform, this was just the first good image that popped up for the gear.

YOu need belt, buckle, breadbag (army or luftwaffe type), canteen, shovel+carrier, and bayonet+bayonet frog.  Y-straps you only need if you do not have internal suspenders (ie, if you have a tunic that is not the M36 or M40, you need them).
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 06-02-2012, 20:02:42
http://www.2dehands.be/verzamelen/overige-verzamelstukken/leger-oorlog-marine/duitse-pak-38-40-113386919.html?qq=&pcpl=&pc_id=&afd=verzamelen%2Foverige-verzamelstukken%2Fleger-oorlog-marine

Pak 38 and Pak 40 anyone?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Musti on 06-02-2012, 20:02:07
Aaaah! Just what i needed for my garden!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 11-02-2012, 18:02:32
Thanks VM, been looking around, wont buy clothes yet, just gear, a belt with buckle seems to go for 70 here, Y straps for 175 (i mean in perfect, original condition) I think that that is a bit to much. Will see what the shows have to offer in the next few months.

Does anybody here know a trustworthy website that sells originals for decent prices and ships to Belgium?

Also, got myself a 1924 made all matching K11

Now i have the 1896/11, K11 and K31. Not sure if i should buy a G11 since it is 99% the same as the 1896/11.

Also know a ZfK55 for sale, aargh, so nice, so expensive  :-[
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 11-02-2012, 19:02:56
Keep in mind, you cant fire GP11 in a 1896/11, but you can fire it in a Gewehr 11
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 11-02-2012, 19:02:09
you are mixing up the 1886/96 and 1896/11.

1896/11 is the G11, it is a modified 1886/96 because they wanted to reuse the old rifles so they could have more modern ones faster. G11 is freshly build.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 11-02-2012, 19:02:37
OOOH yeah  ;D 

good correction!

yeah i quickly mix up 89/96 and 96/11
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: ksl94 on 12-02-2012, 15:02:27
Finally I took some photos of my M1 helmet:
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: ksl94 on 12-02-2012, 15:02:19
Here is a closeup shot of the swivel loops. I'm planning to get a WWII style leather chin strap, does anyone know if it will be compatible with those late production swivel loops that are intalled on my helmet?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 13-02-2012, 18:02:19
http://www.militaria4you.com/paginas/artikel-details.php?id=175
http://www.militaria4you.com/paginas/artikel-details.php?id=859
http://www.militaria4you.com/paginas/artikel-details.php?id=615
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http://www.militaria4you.com/paginas/artikel-details.php?id=802
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http://www.militaria4you.com/paginas/artikel-details.php?id=2150
http://www.militaria4you.com/paginas/artikel-details.php?id=2167
http://www.militaria4you.com/paginas/artikel-details.php?id=2948
http://www.militaria4you.com/paginas/artikel-details.php?id=982
http://www.militaria4you.com/paginas/artikel-details.php?id=614


All of this epic East german DDR NVA Material is underway. I cant fucking wait
Its all gonna be worn at 11 march airsoft event  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 14-02-2012, 02:02:51
You have no idea how hard it is to find those shovels over here v:
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 14-02-2012, 13:02:25
(http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/6862/kk001l.jpg)
(http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/6863/kk002.jpg)
(http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/5440/kk003z.jpg)

Look what i got for 20 euros  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: IrishReloaded on 14-02-2012, 14:02:41
breda mg clips :D?

sweet
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 14-02-2012, 14:02:50
breda mg clips :D?

sweet
Yep, along with 4 8x59 blanks, however they where post war produced.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Eat Uranium on 14-02-2012, 15:02:06
Now all you need is 240 8x59mm rounds, a tripod and a Breda 37.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: GuinNess on 14-02-2012, 17:02:37
Hey guys I have the possibilty to get my hands on a jungle enfield for 500 €
The gunshmith said those enfields are very rare, can you confirm that?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 14-02-2012, 17:02:46
Hey guys I have the possibilty to get my hands on a jungle enfield for 500 €
The gunshmith said those enfields are very rare, can you confirm that?
yes and no

Yes they are rarer

No  suspicious alot have appeared these days. Siben can confirm this along with me.

Can you take a photo Or describe a bit the state and the markings?

They made 250 000 Jungle carbines
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 14-02-2012, 17:02:43
Jungle carbine in Belgium is 450 for an average with milled off bayonet lug and mismatched to 750 for a nice one. Many fakes out there since it is easy to turn a No4 into an No5, you just mill some steel off, cut the barrel and put an after market flash hider on.

Tricks to know it is a real, they are electro pencilled, no stamped numbers on them. different rear sight, it only goes to 600 instead of 2000 iirc, missing bits of steel all over the place, hard to describe but they really lightened almost everything compared to the No4. Rubber butt pad....
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 14-02-2012, 17:02:15
the most important thing is (i already said this to Guinnes)

1. Jungle carbines where ONLY made in BSA Shirley and ROF fazakerley
2. On the left hand reciever there is electropencilled= Rifle No 5 MKI


Post war tens of thousands origenal enfields got converted to jungle carbines for the civilian market. These have either no markings or where manufactured by diffrent companies

and then sibens notes
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: GuinNess on 14-02-2012, 22:02:33
Thank you guys for the information, on friday I will shoot the rifle and I might take some pics.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 18-02-2012, 19:02:02
Got myself a good mauser to go shooting with in the future

(http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/3766/ff001e.jpg)
(http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/383/ff002.jpg)


A chinese Chiang Kai-shek mauser rifle. This is the type 1.
Better quality photo's coming soon
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: th_battleaxe on 19-02-2012, 15:02:19
Chang-Kai-Chek=modern day Taiwan
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: GuinNess on 19-02-2012, 18:02:54
Hello guys, well I did not buy the Enfield Carbine, I was only intrested in it because it was rare, but I want a gun to shoot so I bought a Enfield SMLE

(http://s15.postimage.org/wxoab4k6v/IMG_0049.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/wxoab4k6v/)


(http://s15.postimage.org/gvuxw7z93/IMG_0052.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/gvuxw7z93/)

I always wanted to have a SMLE  8)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 19-02-2012, 19:02:11
Nice one buddy!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: TurkishCommando007 on 19-02-2012, 21:02:54
Does anybody own a Karabiner 1888 rifle? Dying to see it in action...
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 19-02-2012, 21:02:57
I have one, it is the common 1888/05 variant though, witch uses the stripper clips with early spitz 8mm rounds (loaded at lower power then modern military amunition) Problem is, all the ammunition i have is to powerful for it.

You can see it in action the the latest Sherlock Holmes movie.

If you want to see something specific on the rifle, just ask, i can take pictures, or make a movie or so.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: TurkishCommando007 on 20-02-2012, 16:02:58
a few pictures would be good. Thanks  :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 20-02-2012, 19:02:29
a few pictures would be good. Thanks  :)

Give me a bit, the gun is in the locker, will see when i can.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: TurkishCommando007 on 21-02-2012, 18:02:48
no problem  ;)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: GuinNess on 22-02-2012, 18:02:56
Hello guys, I have a question regarding my Colt 1911. Its a commercial version and the serial begins at C17XXX so it is from 1915. (http://coolgunsite.com/pistols/colt%20production.htm)

(http://s15.postimage.org/62y01byp3/IMG_1994.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/62y01byp3/)

On the end of the slide there is a mark which I don't know what it means (not the horse :P), does anybody know what it maybe could mean?

(http://s12.postimage.org/h6m2m5061/IMG_1982.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/h6m2m5061/)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 22-02-2012, 19:02:13
Looks like a crown over a V.  Donno what that could mean though....

Ah, here we go:

Quote
The "Crown over V" proofmark on your Colt is English. It's the Inspection or "View" mark of the London Proof House. Very interesting that it's on a early Colt 1911. The British Officers of that era had to provide their own sidearms. Long as they bought it themselves, they could carry any handgun they wished, within reason.
As 1914 was the year the First World War started, it not a stretch to imagine your Colt being carried and used in the trenches by some Limey.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 22-02-2012, 20:02:41
Nice, approved by the crown and made in 1915. Custom pick by an English officer. A disgrace to the officer corps daring to take something else than fine British revolvers.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 22-02-2012, 21:02:07
To tired to go true cleaning all the pictures up, so here is a picture overload of some rifles you guys did not see yet.

First up: Emergency ration. Have more of these :) 880 rounds of Russian rifle  ammunition.
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Gew88:

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Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 22-02-2012, 21:02:03
Dat ammo <3
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 22-02-2012, 21:02:05
SMLE, slight damage on the wood, numbers matching, even stock.

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Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: GuinNess on 22-02-2012, 21:02:08
Looks like a crown over a V.  Donno what that could mean though....

Ah, here we go:

Quote
The "Crown over V" proofmark on your Colt is English. It's the Inspection or "View" mark of the London Proof House. Very interesting that it's on a early Colt 1911. The British Officers of that era had to provide their own sidearms. Long as they bought it themselves, they could carry any handgun they wished, within reason.
As 1914 was the year the First World War started, it not a stretch to imagine your Colt being carried and used in the trenches by some Limey.

Thx VonMudra! So I better take care of that pistol?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 22-02-2012, 21:02:50
Take care of a Colt? Hell yes.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: GuinNess on 22-02-2012, 22:02:25
Take care of a Colt? Hell yes.

Of course I will, sometimes I take to the range, but for now on I'll better do not...but it makes so much fun to shoot.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 22-02-2012, 22:02:30
Shoot with it if you enjoy it but keep it in good condition. Simple.  8)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 22-02-2012, 22:02:53
give it proper TLC, clean it with the best products

and nobody of us will rip you apart  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: TurkishCommando007 on 23-02-2012, 16:02:10
Thats a really nice 88 rifle!  :o  I suppose it is an ottoman made one.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 23-02-2012, 19:02:50
It is German made (loewe, Berlin) , and very likely used during early WW1 by the German army, later, when the Gew 98 became more seen on the battlefield these old Gew 88/05  (they where upgraded with a new barrel in 1905 to handle a different cartridge) rifles where send to the Ottoman empire (turkey) where they got a new stronger bolt and saw more combat.

I do not think the ottoman ever made complete rifles, just bolts.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 23-02-2012, 19:02:59
Ottoman empire made the 89 models and beyond(And imported models aswel, mostly from belgium and Germany)

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 23-02-2012, 22:02:17
I think i forgot to say nice colt, cant wait to start hunting for one myself in the future. Rare to see one that good and that old.

Here is my K11. I have put on K31 aluminium grips on the bolt until i find some original plastic ones. Made in 1924.

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Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 23-02-2012, 23:02:06
K31 had a type with brown aluminum bolt grips?  Dude, I would LOVE to have those for my K31 :O  Where did you get them??
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: GuinNess on 24-02-2012, 11:02:59
Someday I will get me too a K31 (hopefully with original scope) I heart they are quite accurate? And they are not that expensive. Nice, I like that brown part aswell.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 24-02-2012, 14:02:43
K31 had a type with brown aluminum bolt grips?  Dude, I would LOVE to have those for my K31 :O  Where did you get them??
These are uncommon but yeah, there where K31's with these more browned aluminium grips.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: TurkishCommando007 on 24-02-2012, 20:02:30
But I see Farsi (the language used in the ottoman emp.) markings on it?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 24-02-2012, 21:02:44
But I see Farsi (the language used in the ottoman emp.) markings on it?

Turks restamped the gun after it was purchased, to log it into their records.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 24-02-2012, 23:02:21
K31 had a type with brown aluminum bolt grips?  Dude, I would LOVE to have those for my K31 :O  Where did you get them??

I have only seen the plain aluminum grips on the K31, the rifle in the picture is a K11, it is supposed to have dark brownish Bakelite? grips. They break fast unfortunately, I have a pair of those (installed on my 1896/11) but i am looking for another one to put in this rifle.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 26-02-2012, 19:02:03
stood from 5 AM till 4 PM on a fair in gent

got myself=
-A bomba A mano !
-A norwegian field ration (Dam delicious)
-Blanks for mauser
-10 AK47 magazine pouches from east germany 10 for 2 euro a piece!
-And i somewhat orderd myself an Australian 1942 fully serial matched No 1 SMLE <3
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 27-02-2012, 19:02:07
Hmm, i was there as well, got myself:

-A Bayonet for my Schmidt Rubin G11.
-A Berthier 1907/15 carbine with with 1931 on the barrel (looks 100% like the M16 carbine, they just did not bother to grind the old designation off and stamp the M16 on) completely matching numbers.
-A belt for my carbine.
-A bayonet for my new carbine.
-A ammunition clip for my carbine.
-Belgian military rail police armband + Belgian military telegraphy and telephony armband (in Belgian flag colours) from the late 40's
-French combat ration number 9.
-Polish combat ration with mystery meat :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 27-02-2012, 20:02:01
He bought the rations from mah store
Polish rations are best rations!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 27-02-2012, 20:02:49
So guys, what are you having for your meals today? Oh wait, I know that. Canned rations. Yum, yum.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 27-02-2012, 20:02:42
Brussels sprouts with self made sausage and potatoes. Not bad don't you think?

The rations are for when i am bored, might eat them at work during a night shift.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 27-02-2012, 20:02:07
So guys, what are you having for your meals today? Oh wait, I know that. Canned rations. Yum, yum.
Norwegian/swedish 24 hour ration indeed, while le female compagnion is testing out veggie MRE as product testing

Problem?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 27-02-2012, 20:02:34
I carry Scho-ka-kola with me at all times.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 27-02-2012, 20:02:37
I carry Scho-ka-kola with me at all times.
me gusta


Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 27-02-2012, 21:02:54
So guys, what are you having for your meals today? Oh wait, I know that. Canned rations. Yum, yum.

Greek Lemon Soup
Greek Gyros
Chicken Kabob
Rice Pilaf
Greek Feta Cheese Salad.


Fresh made ;)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 27-02-2012, 21:02:29
So guys, what are you having for your meals today? Oh wait, I know that. Canned rations. Yum, yum.

Greek Lemon Soup
Greek Gyros
Chicken Kabob
Rice Pilaf
Greek Feta Cheese Salad.


Fresh made ;)
Y U no answer my question about NATO blanks and mausers!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Thorondor123 on 28-02-2012, 01:02:11
Cooking with Hamsters is this way --> http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?topic=27.0
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Ciupita on 28-02-2012, 13:02:19
I bought my first piece of "militaria" yesterday.

(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af343/Ciupita/kukri-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Musti on 28-02-2012, 14:02:20
Now THAT'S a NOIF!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 28-02-2012, 18:02:31
I dislike knifes. I only have my bayonets because they are a must have.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Thorondor123 on 28-02-2012, 19:02:16
I wish I could find a Fairbairn-Sykes knife for reasonable price...

I bought my first piece of "militaria" yesterday.

http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af343/Ciupita/kukri-1.jpg
One day I will buy one of these... One day.

Made in India but the same company that produced the kukris for Gurkhas in WWII. This model is used by the Gurkhas in the Indian army.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 28-02-2012, 19:02:34
I bought my first piece of "militaria" yesterday.

(http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af343/Ciupita/kukri-1.jpg)
Musti is right

Dats a noive.(http://theawesome80s.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/ikm9ajugtv0vki9v.jpg)


Question to the Suomi's. my buddy has a hand crafted Finnish knife in ivory. I cant remeber the other markings. Is it worth anything?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Thorondor123 on 28-02-2012, 19:02:37
my buddy has a hand crafted Finnish knife in ivory. I cant remeber the other markings. Is it worth anything?
What kind of an answer do you think you will get with that description? :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 28-02-2012, 19:02:07
my buddy has a hand crafted Finnish knife in ivory. I cant remeber the other markings. Is it worth anything?
What kind of an answer do you think you will get with that description? :P
I have No idea  ;D

Its very well crafted with finnish crosses, and if i recall a date was carved in saying 1935
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 28-02-2012, 19:02:26
Okay guys, a completly diffrent thing

I came across a beauty of a Australian No 1 MKIII SMLE made in lithgow in 575. It was in the less common Australian wood type(so lighter then other SMLE's) and in a very good condition. I did not checked if it was serial matched but i can take a look at it again this saturday.

The thing is, it costs......575 Euro's...

The condition is however, pretty dam good. Simular to other SMLE's on his website
(http://www.classicfirearms.be/Images/rifles/enfield/SMLE/Ref%20831/DSCF3676.JPG)
http://www.classicfirearms.be/ENG/rifles.html
The aussia aint on the list however. He can only show a set of rifles on his website.
I have been doing a bit of research, turns out he is a well known collector when it comes to British weapons.

Now i really love SMLE's, and i always wanted one. And i know they cost more then a no4. But how is the price? 575 for a very good condition australian SMLE made in 1942 in lithgow?


Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 28-02-2012, 20:02:49
As I said on steam, that is WAYYYY too much for a SMLE.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 29-02-2012, 19:02:15
according to seller, SMLE is fully serial matched
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Mayhemic.MAD on 29-02-2012, 22:02:49
Some more stuff that my grandfather managed to hide from the Americans troops when they came to our place in 1945.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-le41yKGPcDw/T0o0BflBO_I/AAAAAAAACQk/m8qI2u71DnI/s400/DSC00203.JPG) (https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/D-CfbD9Iwq2YJYG1CggdNdMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite)
Warplane recognition Handbook - 1941
All planes in front, side and top shape drawings and some photographs of it, together with technical details like crew, engines, armament and armor.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-oNO1n5J8g6c/T0oz5HmVw8I/AAAAAAAACQU/nMeyMZtc1Zs/s400/DSC00206.JPG) (https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/1u8CRizgMFJqvhCOCVQdCNMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite)
Warplane recognition Handbook - 1942, this one also has american and russian planes. More than twice the size of the 1941 edition.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-zgvtWx-dNmw/T0oz98C9FqI/AAAAAAAACQc/2v6Dxdo85VI/s400/DSC00205.JPG)
 (https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/itz4UEieYUDWwYFwhNLLIdMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite)Learning to fly.
How to become a pilot. Describes the handling of planes, starting and landing as well as basics about wind, weather and air conditions + the basic maneuvers. Also has drawings and photos of all German planes of the time.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-6QfIB0N9_JA/T0oz1BeJByI/AAAAAAAACQM/JBll0F6SKY8/s400/DSC00207.JPG) (https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/YunHQpwz874KGK3k-fEw_9MTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite)
The fleets of England and France, 1941.
Contains tables of all the ships, sorted by fleets and group, with all their data and armament details + details of how it was sunk (if it was).
Since he was on duty in the RAD and later in the Flugabwehr (Flakhelfer in Frankfurt am Main) I get why he had the books about planes, but the one about the Fleets is weird.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: IrishReloaded on 29-02-2012, 22:02:36
definatly to identify enemy airships!

srly: nice stuff ! take care of them
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 01-03-2012, 21:03:14
I like books like that, but they are so hard to find here, and i can't speak german...
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 01-03-2012, 22:03:18
well the days of HFD weapons are over in Belgium. I sold all of my guns minus a few wich i gonna register for sport shooting. Namely my mosin nagant and lee enfield.

Its a shame it has to end this way...but i saw it coming...With the incident in Luik.

Still...i think Belgium is shooting in his own foot here. Most people will not get rid of there guns and eventually they will end up in the black market......in wich big players can sell them again for double to triple the price thus resulting in the same event as we had before....

On the other hand, i really really hope they will get down to buisiness and deal with the illegal automatic firearm mafia that is going around here, especialy in Brussels.

Gonna go get my paperwork finnaly done (Had some issues with parents but got resolved) to make sure my 2 remaining rifles can remain in my possesion
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 02-03-2012, 00:03:18
Geez, really sorry about that mate. Hope you run into no more trouble.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 02-03-2012, 15:03:50
Geez, really sorry about that mate. Hope you run into no more trouble.
im not into trouble  :) dont worry. The ones i dint wanted i sold, and the gems i wanna keep will be put on license, in wich they remain safe as kittens in my possesion

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 02-03-2012, 16:03:21
As I said on steam, that is WAYYYY too much for a SMLE.
How much should one expect for an SMLE?  I am thinking about reenacting BEF Great War in addition to my French resistance.  i has monies but i am a poor 18 year old still
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Zoologic on 02-03-2012, 16:03:31
Lithgow? I've been there, not far from Sydney and Blue Mountains area.

There is a small firearms museum there, I think Tedacious has been there before.

http://www.lithgow-tourism.com/samuseum/index.html
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 02-03-2012, 17:03:21
As I said on steam, that is WAYYYY too much for a SMLE.
How much should one expect for an SMLE?  I am thinking about reenacting BEF Great War in addition to my French resistance.  i has monies but i am a poor 18 year old still

I paid $450 for my 1918 No1MkIII, which included a sling, sword bayonet, and bayonet frog.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 06-03-2012, 15:03:17
some new stuff, a container i have never seen before and a standard mg box and a splinter zeltbahn, everything fore the price of 130dollars! the zeltbahn dosnt have a single hole, and all the buttons are still intact
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 06-03-2012, 16:03:38
My license has been sended and in 6 months my remaining bolt action rifles are as safe as kittens  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: th_battleaxe on 06-03-2012, 18:03:36
My license has been sended and in 6 months my remaining bolt action rifles are as safe as kittens  ;D
gun locker ordered, I suspect?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 06-03-2012, 18:03:03
My license has been sended and in 6 months my remaining bolt action rifles are as safe as kittens  ;D
gun locker ordered, I suspect?
i already have one  :)  Bought one the day i started with my collection

Secondary safe for storing ammo is also orderd.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 06-03-2012, 22:03:34
forgot to add some pictures to my post! :O

can someone tell me about this "kampfstoffproben" container?

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00322-1.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00321-1.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00320-1.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00319-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 06-03-2012, 22:03:19
combat fuel samples is what my german tells me
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 06-03-2012, 22:03:20
my direct translation from german to norwegian to english becomes "wargas samples" or something "stridsgass" in norwegian
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 06-03-2012, 22:03:32
hm intresting

i guess we need a real german for this one
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: mopskind on 06-03-2012, 22:03:56
Kampfstoffe can be anything to be used in combat, including explosives, ammunition, chemicals, whatever you like. Maybe this case was used by the German command to collect enemy ordnance to gain knowledge about the enemies weapons, but that is just a wild guess here
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 06-03-2012, 22:03:42
the box itself is in a extremly nice condition, pictures i found on the internet was of reall bad conditioned oes, the spring in the lock is still workin 100% and there is only minor rust, though it looks rough on the pictures, its a Really nice buy indeed.. wonder i want to repaint it for our ww2 AIRSOFT use in our camp

chemicals seems very close
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 06-03-2012, 22:03:24
wonder i want to repaint it for our ww2 AIRSOFT use in our camp

you wanna do WHAT?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 06-03-2012, 22:03:45
make it look pretty again.

well also use it on something we call "fortets dag" "day of the fortress" wich is a "fully" restored german bunker system in north-norway wich is a ww2 event, without re-enactors this far, but we are trying to start something serious
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 06-03-2012, 22:03:26
Repaint it and you'll kill the historical value and crash the worth of the item.. You should have bought a tattered and worn one, or a repo. This would be a shame.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 06-03-2012, 22:03:14
Repaint it and you'll kill the historical value and crash the worth of the item.. You should have bought a tattered and worn one, or a repo. This would be a shame.
^This

This one looks very good and geniue. If you would repaint it you would completly destroy the value

However a rusted batterd one issent worth alot, not even historically. Repainting that one will bring back fresh life in a an old forgotten ready for the scrap heap item

It wont be as much worth as a origenal one, but still dam worth the effort of repainting and saving it!

(http://1funny.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/begging-cat.jpg)
Please dont repaint this one!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 06-03-2012, 22:03:26
please Do tell me where they sell repros then :p

atleast i am going to get the zeltbahn proffesionaly washed and anti-water thingy
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Eat Uranium on 06-03-2012, 23:03:21
Looks to me like it was for storing 6 stick grenade heads.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: mopskind on 06-03-2012, 23:03:03
nah this case came with tools to pick up shrapnel pieces to put them in the little boxes
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 06-03-2012, 23:03:26
http://www.captainjacksmilitaria.com/index.php?page=ww2-german-chemical-warfare-case
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 07-03-2012, 00:03:32
you know what my one is worth?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 07-03-2012, 03:03:34
Not a clue, but prob much less than that one, since it's complete, whilst you just have the box.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Thorondor123 on 08-03-2012, 15:03:58
I wish I could find a Fairbairn-Sykes knife for reasonable price...

I bought my first piece of "militaria" yesterday.

http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af343/Ciupita/kukri-1.jpg
One day I will buy one of these... One day.

Made in India but the same company that produced the kukris for Gurkhas in WWII. This model is used by the Gurkhas in the Indian army.
And behold, after I say this, -20% sale hits:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/Thorondor123/08032012124.jpg)

There it is! Next to its Finnish cousin which, by the way, is considered to be a large puukko. 
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 08-03-2012, 18:03:00
now you and Ciu can hit the streets
fighting crime
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 09-03-2012, 19:03:39
okay guys

A guy is selling his No 1 MK III* made in ishapore factory in india. It is fully serial matched and costs 400 euro

these are the images

(http://img.2dehands.be/f/normal/116262536_2-lee-enfield-no1-mkiii-1945.jpg)
(http://img.2dehands.be/f/normal/116262536_3-lee-enfield-no1-mkiii-1945.jpg)
(http://img.2dehands.be/f/normal/116262536_4-lee-enfield-no1-mkiii-1945.jpg)
(http://img.2dehands.be/f/normal/116262536_6-lee-enfield-no1-mkiii-1945.jpg)
(http://img.2dehands.be/f/normal/116263071_7-lee-enfield-no1-mkiii-1945.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 09-03-2012, 23:03:35
I think I have a similar couch to that one.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: TurkishCommando007 on 10-03-2012, 23:03:50
Do any of you guys saw or own a Maxim Spandau mg08/15 LMG ?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Thorondor123 on 11-03-2012, 18:03:45
I have this Swedish thing. A bag of some sort. What the balls is it?
I think that it's a gas mask pouch, but is someone know more accurate model or anything, I would appreciate your input.

Front:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/Thorondor123/militaria/11032012125.jpg)

Back:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v200/Thorondor123/militaria/11032012127.jpg)

Inside there are many smaller pockets, most quite deep but not that wide.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 11-03-2012, 19:03:36
Its a gasmask bag indeed, i have a simular bag + gasmask
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Sgt.KAR98 on 11-03-2012, 23:03:38
The only things I have is a Woodland jacket replica and Desert Battle Dress Uniform pattern trousers replica.Both of ripstop.And a DCU cap.Forgot that.I really like the camouflage pattern the US used during Gulf War.

EDIT,IDK,but I guess after washing the jacket,it started to loose it's colors...Hope it's just my paranoia.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 15-03-2012, 20:03:45
Probably cheap paint.

Anyhow, I got myself a couple of 25mm 1939 made French hotchkiss AT rounds, removed powder though. It is one of the cannons that I really like so buying them was a no brainer.

Edit: 9mm and .50 as size reference.

(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg577/scaled.php?server=577&filename=imag0685a.jpg&res=medium)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 15-03-2012, 20:03:38
Diffrent SMLE but this is the one i am buying this sunday

(http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/7671/img11021.jpg)
(http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/3605/img1100s.jpg)
(http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/1403/img1099j.jpg)
(http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/614/img1098au.jpg)
(http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/6663/img1097b.jpg)
(http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/9153/img1096b.jpg)

I have no idea why a few of those photos are upside down

ishapore British india 1944.
This will be one of my main shooting rifles
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: th_battleaxe on 16-03-2012, 15:03:48

ishapore British india 1944.
This will be one of my main shooting rifles

with good reason, SMLE's are my personal favorites as well and I would love to own one some day.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 16-03-2012, 15:03:04

ishapore British india 1944.
This will be one of my main shooting rifles

with good reason, SMLE's are my personal favorites as well and I would love to own one some day.
Come over to Paal and you can hold one of them  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: th_battleaxe on 16-03-2012, 15:03:14

ishapore British india 1944.
This will be one of my main shooting rifles

with good reason, SMLE's are my personal favorites as well and I would love to own one some day.
Come over to Paal and you can hold one of them  ;D
Sorry old chap, bit busy at the moment. And if my mother would find out she'd probably freak out.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 18-03-2012, 20:03:43
Okay guys i want your opinion on this

I got my Ishapore No 1 MKIII* Smle. Dated 1944. Everything serial matched minus the magazine. The metal is in great condition, the wood is in a used but good condition.

The barrel is in an absolute perfect condition.

I feel like refurbishing the wood. Cleaning it, and then getting rid of the small use marks(the small chops in the wood)(No i am not gonna sand it), giving it some good line-seed oil and a Varnish
AKA bringing it back to a good new condition

How do you guys feel over this? i want a rather honest opinion.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: IrishReloaded on 18-03-2012, 22:03:28
the wood tells the story of the rifle.
Every use mark has its story - you can always think of a story in your head where the scratch came from. Removing them is taking the rifles history

NO

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 18-03-2012, 22:03:36
After recieving 3 assasination attempts from belgium, finland and austria i have decided not to clean the wood
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: IrishReloaded on 18-03-2012, 22:03:57
good

(http://www.abload.de/img/p312000704uke.jpg)
(http://www.abload.de/img/p3190023poi9h.jpg)
Oberndorfer Mauser Portugese Version 1941
Almost full serial match, just the whole bolt has a different number.

and does anyone know what the little cross and the "brg" stands for?
Its at the shoulder part
(http://www.abload.de/img/p31900302tdkc.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Battlefieldfan45 (CroPanzer) on 18-03-2012, 23:03:56
Siben's little wish  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 19-03-2012, 07:03:35
Those are maker marks.  What they mean, I don't know :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: th_battleaxe on 19-03-2012, 07:03:51
Made in Braga?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: IrishReloaded on 19-03-2012, 08:03:00
no its made in Oberndorf and then exported to portugal. It has Hakenkreuz Stamps all over the gun
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 19-03-2012, 18:03:00
BRG is H.W. Schmidt Metallwarenfabrik, Döbeln in Sachsen, they are a subcontractor that made shoulder plates (buttplates) only.

The cross is probably a reference to this. (bottom right of page)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Christ_(Portugal)
Portuguese people were rather religious back then :)

Also, i am still looking badly for that rifle... Only seen 1 here so far and it went for 600 euro. (all matching in pristine condition)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: IrishReloaded on 20-03-2012, 01:03:49
what would you give me for it :P Just asking as I am interested.
Like said matching numbers for rifle, bolt is different number but itself matching.
barrel is shiny as silver :D

and thanks for the info pretty interesting.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Sgt.KAR98 on 20-03-2012, 06:03:50
Is that a Kar98?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 20-03-2012, 07:03:07
Basically yes, but it's the Portuguese version.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 20-03-2012, 18:03:43
Has kar 98 in his name

Doesnt know it is one when he sees one  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 20-03-2012, 20:03:57
I would give 350 or so for it, no more, 400 if matching, maybe 450 if super nice.

The 1941 model is a K98k like they made them for the German army of that time in that factory, with only different stamps and crest IIRC. The 1937 model like the one i have has some different features as well.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: IrishReloaded on 20-03-2012, 23:03:15
yeah 350 is that what I paid, glad that I made a good price - I also would not have paid more.

one missing feature of portugese version is the additional ironsight cover, well it does look ugly anyway.
and in addition I could not find out if the serial number I have was acutally exported to portugal or send to east front. Some page I read some time ago said that not the entire 1941 chache was exported.
well I like it, you seem to like it too, so im happy :)

good night
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 21-03-2012, 08:03:18
The front hood you describe was not found on a single K98k of that time, it is just like any other K98k made in the year 1941. The rifle went true quite a development process during its production run with many changes.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 22-03-2012, 03:03:53
Just landed a super nice 1944 M44 Nagant and a nice close combat clasp. (http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x260/bmwr12/M44_RightOverall.jpg)

(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x260/bmwr12/M44_LeftOverall.jpg)

(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x260/bmwr12/badge1.jpg)
(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x260/bmwr12/badge2.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Ciupita on 22-03-2012, 12:03:04
That Mosin looks like new.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 22-03-2012, 12:03:20
Almost plastic-like. Thing about guns of old, I dont personally like it when a gun from for example the era of world war's are in mint condition. Sure thing if you collect live weapons like some of you do, since you want it to be in mint condition when you start actually firing the thing and eventually it starts to get those dents, but for me personally as a deac-collector, the more dents the better. If a wooden stock looks like its straight out from the factory, I have less interest towards the gun. They need to show their age. :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 22-03-2012, 12:03:24
Well, these where not really used much, many probably never left the armoury. That is just the way these guns look, even when 100% in original condition.

Nice score, i am looking for one as well, but they are not free to have in Belgium (unlike my other bolt action rifles) for some reason so they are scarce.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: IrishReloaded on 22-03-2012, 15:03:00
due to overall weapon lenght i guess.
iirc its forbidden here too cause its too short and too easy to hide
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 22-03-2012, 20:03:13
That's not an infantry assualt badge, that's a close combat clasp, a significantly more prestigious medal. :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: bmwr12 on 23-03-2012, 01:03:04
sorry lol I mixed them up.I am not a medal man. I cant believe I messed that one up. Too many hours at work and motorcycle projects.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 25-03-2012, 17:03:17
Today was a good day, as i finnaly got the last piece i wanted in my collection

A long infantry Steyr-mannlicher M95 in 8x56mm R. Gonna register this one for shooting ofcourse  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 29-03-2012, 21:03:49
Can somebody identify this musket?


(http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/2948/test001l.jpg)

(http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/6312/test003x.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 29-03-2012, 23:03:18
Tabatière 1867
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 29-03-2012, 23:03:12
Thanks pallie!

Anyway
(http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/9831/test005.jpg)
4 rifles i plan to shoot with

-Steyr mannlicher M95/30 Stutzen
-Steyr Mannlicher M95/30 Infantrie
-Mauser Gevär 96 Carl gustav
-Karbiner 31

There are some other rifles i kept.
-A mosin nagant M91/30 hexa reciever, and a Mosin nagant M91/30 Round reciever (Rather rare pre war 1936 built, fully serial matched and not arsenal refurbished)
-Lee enfield SMLE No 1 MKIII* Ishapore
-Carcano M1891 and M43

I am gonna register each of these rifles on my license and i plan to shoot with them. Thus the history is retained!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: th_battleaxe on 31-03-2012, 17:03:59
do you own that musket theta?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 31-03-2012, 17:03:28
do you own that musket theta?
Negative, its one of my mates
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: ksl94 on 04-04-2012, 22:04:30
One of the rarer items: 1940s style Coca-Cola bottle (new production made by the Coca-Cola Company).
These are only available in somee countries and in select stores only. I sell the empty ones (bottle top is not historically accurate, though). If you'd like to get one, please send me a pm. I imported these from France; I was looking for these bottles all around the world, I didn't even find them at home in the Dallas area. When I finally found them, I bought an entire box  ;D .
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 04-04-2012, 23:04:10
You raise empty bottle, I raise two filled bottles with original package. And they where dirt cheap.

(http://i39.tinypic.com/9secgg.jpg)

EDIT: Haha, I just notice the Mills bomb on the left acting as desk decoration.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: ksl94 on 04-04-2012, 23:04:30
 :o Where did you get these if I may ask? Didn't know that one could still get those bottles easily!
By the way: I love the Mills bomb  :D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 04-04-2012, 23:04:51
Last year in September in a Dutch supermarket for 1,50 Euros each.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 05-04-2012, 00:04:54
I can go to the store and get those any time.  In 6 packs.  xD  They also do the original 1890s bottle style.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: ksl94 on 05-04-2012, 00:04:16
I think I just narrowly avoided a heart attack  :-X . Why didn't I find them that quickly? I can get close to everything at my local Walmart but I never found these ( I looked in other stores, too)  :( .
Fuchs, if I may ask, what was the name of that supermarket? Since I currently am in Europe, I could go to the Netherlands to buy a truckload of these  :D . And vonMudra, may I ask where I can buy the 1890s style bottle and the Hobble Skirt bottle I was talking about in the U.S.?

EDIT: fixed typing error
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 05-04-2012, 02:04:53
They have them down at my local grocery store.  There are vintage bottles for Dr. Pepper too.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 05-04-2012, 13:04:32
A Super de Boer that doesn't exist anymore, it's a Jumbo now. Haven't seen it in any other shop so I highly doubt you can find them again, mind you it was 6 months ago.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 09-04-2012, 16:04:29
a Moschetto da Cavalleria Mod. 91 seems to have found it's way into my collection. Nice little thing.

Not mine in the picture, but similar.
(https://www.libertytreecollectors.com/productcart/pc/catalog/CarcanoM91CavCarbi.JPG)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 09-04-2012, 17:04:53
i saw the same one, it is a nice condition one, but it costed to much for me =325 euros.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 09-04-2012, 17:04:50
I enjoy the discounts i get from the sellers, haha, 15% off the price seems to be something i get these days without even trying. More possible if i buy a second item.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 09-04-2012, 17:04:24
I enjoy the discounts i get from the sellers, haha, 15% off the price seems to be something i get these days without even trying. More possible if i buy a second item.
That guy always gives a good discount  ;)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: mopskind on 09-04-2012, 18:04:38
Hey lads,

found this K98 in my grandmas basement. Can anybody tell me smth about the stamps on it and what it could be worth on european market? Very bad image quality, I know. The serial numbers are 11141 and all match. Thx!

http://imageshack.us/g/59/20120409170511.jpg/
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 09-04-2012, 18:04:39
Spanish mauser, collector value, non existing, price, 200 would be a lot here. Nobody has interest in these i must tell you. You do not see them often though, so with some luck you find somebody that might pay up to 300.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 09-04-2012, 18:04:10
Hey lads,

found this K98 in my grandmas basement. Can anybody tell me smth about the stamps on it and what it could be worth on european market? Very bad image quality, I know. The serial numbers are 11141 and all match. Thx!

http://imageshack.us/g/59/20120409170511.jpg/
Yes indeed, this is a spanish mauser. Seems to be the model 43 "la coruna"
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: mopskind on 09-04-2012, 18:04:14
Well 200 bucks would be more than what i had expected, i know the market is pretty flooded with K98s. Thanks for the infos! I am actuall surprised it is spanish.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 09-04-2012, 18:04:51
Well 200 bucks would be more than what i had expected, i know the market is pretty flooded with K98s. Thanks for the infos! I am actuall surprised it is spanish.
What  country do you live in again?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: mopskind on 09-04-2012, 18:04:17
In your beloved teutonic neighborhood ;)
Title: Curio and Relic/Modern Gun Collecting
Post by: GIJordncc1701d on 10-04-2012, 03:04:55
So I'm quite the Curio and Relic collector, and one reason I love FH so much is the realism and variety of the weapons. I was just wondering if there were any other collectors who play. Post pictures of you collections.


I have a Carcano M1891 (made at Terni arsenal), a M1895 Chilean Mausers (made by Ludwig Loewe), two Mosin-Nagant M91/30s (both Izhevsk), a Pattern 1914 (made by Remington, 1916), a No.I MkIII* Lee-Enfield (manufactured by BSA, used by South Africa), an FR-8 Mauser (made by La Coruna in Spain), an Mosin-Nagant M44 carbine (also Izhevsk), a Chinese Norinco SKS, a Kar98 (1941, duv marked, not a Russian capture), and finally a Japanese Type 99 short rifle (series 23, Kokura arsenal).

Unfortunately, all of the pictures I have of my collection are too big, so I can't post any as of yet  :'(
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Eat Uranium on 10-04-2012, 03:04:02
Merged into similar thread.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 10-04-2012, 03:04:19
Many pics of all our private arsenals on this thread.  Feel free to look around :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 10-04-2012, 19:04:12
I am going true the slow process of making them all in a ready to shoot shape, this takes a lot of time though, after that i will start making movies (like the stupid can you cycle the bolt without having to lower the rifle) and detailed pictures. If the licence is good i will even do shooting video's, should be interesting to see for some how the manlicher clips worked in the steyr, berthier and carcano, not many movies about it on youtube.

Have no fear, i will leave the dents in the wood, and won't recolour it. Same with the metal.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 10-04-2012, 21:04:40
Same here siben

I plan to register the following rifles for shooting in 6 months=

-SMLE no 1 MKIII* ishapore
-Mauser Yugoslavia M24/52-c
-Steyr mannlicher M95/30 long
-Carcano Fucile di fanteria M1891
-Mosin nagant M91
-K31
-Swedish mauser gevar 96

I ,will add more to the shooting list in the future, once i have my weapon chamber in order
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Lupin on 26-04-2012, 02:04:35
Got myself a Suomi.

(http://i.imgur.com/pLpY1.jpg)

Perkele!

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sheikyerbouti on 26-04-2012, 03:04:07
 Long time, no see Lupin.


 Good looking weapon, is it de-milled ?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Lupin on 26-04-2012, 03:04:45
Long time, no see Lupin.


 Good looking weapon, is it de-milled ?

Hey Sheik.

It's a semi-auto rebuild, with an extended barrel to bypass the "Short Barrel Rifle" nonsense. A decent weapon, but it weighs a ton, even more than my SKS. I heard it's about 15.5 pounds with a fully loaded drum.

Costs about $420, although due to the incompetence of the local gun store I ended up paying more than that due to being double charged for shipping/background checks. I just wanted to get out of there so I didn't argue about it much, lol.

Manufacturer:
http://www.tnwfirearms.com/

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sheikyerbouti on 26-04-2012, 03:04:56
 Good for deer hunting,


 Always nice to see weapon's that can still fire, I hate de-mil's (they just sit there collecting dust).
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Lupin on 26-04-2012, 03:04:32
Good for deer hunting,


 Always nice to see weapon's that can still fire, I hate de-mil's (they just sit there collecting dust).

Yeah me too. I also hate how the ATF butchers receivers of historical weapons non-stop.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sheikyerbouti on 26-04-2012, 03:04:47
 Well, at least you don't live in Canada.

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 26-04-2012, 03:04:48
Lovely!  They just recently relegalized the semi-auto rebuilds of Suomis in cali, I've been thinking about getting that for my parts kit. :3

EDIT:  Fixed, hate yah Flipster :D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 26-04-2012, 19:04:11
impressive
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 26-04-2012, 20:04:17
And now they need to do the same with Suomi's.


 8)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 30-04-2012, 20:04:21
Finnaly got a good camera, but then sun was like=Screw you guys, im going home

So bathroom has to do

i've always wanted to show my Steyr M95
(http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/8149/dsc00023fw.jpg)
(http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/7678/dsc00023bz.jpg)
(http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/7520/dsc00025an.jpg)
(http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/303/dsc00027qe.jpg)
Seeing at the serial number(on reciever), it was made just BEFORE WW1.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 16-05-2012, 20:05:16
Lets revive this thread with pictures of my Yugoslavian M24/52C
(http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/8281/m2452001.jpg)
(http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/6278/m2452004.jpg)
(http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/7468/m2452003.jpg)
(http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/9656/m2452002.jpg)
(http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/9853/m2452005.jpg)

So what is the M24/52C? These are VZ 24, G24(t), FN model 24 and other Model 24 mauser rifles that yugoslavia had after WW2, or recieved as war reprisal. These where all refurbished with the yugoslav party cresent and where repaired. Some recieved a new stock, a new barrel or slings.

It is serial matched down to the stock. Exept for the barrel wich was replaced by zastava

This will be my main 7.92x57 mauser rifle for when i recieve my license in 5 months.

you have to give credit to the high quality of yugoslav firearms. These guys knew there shit
The bayonet is a czech one. So it actually matches. The 5 7.92x57 in stripper clip are all yugoslavian but they are Demill. The cleaning kit is also yugoslavian

Also dont mind the sheets of the bed, i tore them apart in my sleep with my plaster this night, dunno how i did that..
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: th_battleaxe on 16-05-2012, 21:05:19
knife in your plaster?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 27-05-2012, 23:05:09
(http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/6140/blank001.jpg)

Got myself a bunch of 7.5x54 MAS Blanks for siben. Got a few for myself, and decided to open up one and compare it to a 7.62x51 NATO blank. Both are plastic cased.

Intresting colour in powder
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: th_battleaxe on 06-06-2012, 10:06:32
Say theta, are you heading to the miltaria fair in Ciney in october?
A friend of mine at university goes there every year and I am considering to join him.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 06-06-2012, 13:06:09
Say theta, are you heading to the miltaria fair in Ciney in october?
A friend of mine at university goes there every year and I am considering to join him.
Yes i am planning to go there :)

Siben goes aswel
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Gezoes on 07-06-2012, 18:06:13
Does a Stuart count as Militaria? Oh well, burger drivethrough and all weapons included 8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvkLaa9bogU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvkLaa9bogU)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Battlefieldfan45 (CroPanzer) on 12-06-2012, 12:06:12
Hehe he made a sequel with the M18 Hellcat
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Yustax on 21-06-2012, 05:06:18
Gents...some good news. I just paid half the price of the new built M24 SWS sniper rifle Im going to buy. 2000 dollars....minus the scope. The next payment is next month, then I shall have her in my hands. I will post tons of pics.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 21-06-2012, 17:06:58
Gents...some good news. I just paid half the price of the new built M24 SWS sniper rifle Im going to buy. 2000 dollars....minus the scope. The next payment is next month, then I shall have her in my hands. I will post tons of pics.
you better post tonnes of pics!

Whatcha firing with that baby?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Yustax on 22-06-2012, 01:06:50
you better post tonnes of pics!

Whatcha firing with that baby?

Im planning to shoot american eagle 168gr match in 308. However...that will come soon other time. For now I'll stick to m80 ball, IM gonna buy like 250 rounds just to start doing target practice, collecting the brass, have fun and just shoot it. Then the good stuff is gonna come in, when I have more money. After having the rifle. I'll buy the scope.

M24 uses the Leupold MARK 4 3.5-10x40mm LR/T M3. However, Im going with the predecessor of the scope, called the Vari X III 3.5x10 with M3 turrets and with the USMC mildot, the fatter "football field" mildot, that I find sexier and easier to shoot than the current model. It cost like 700 to 800 used.

Those are my plans for the future. Rifle arrives in the next month, stay tuned.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 07-07-2012, 20:07:11
got these two beauties for a shocking 57dollars from a norwegian page. (that is shockingly cheap over here)

Telefunken E.H.333 4000 ohm and Siemens & Halske D.R.G.M. Rfh. 2-2000 ohm.

do anyone know anything about them? :)

http://www.dereksmilitaria.no/tysk-feltutstyr/2-par-tyske-hretelefoner.html#

(http://www.dereksmilitaria.no/images/shop/product_images/40156/P4013664.gif)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 07-07-2012, 20:07:28
Back in the past they trew G11 and K11's at you

now i cant find a Gewehr 11.....for frak sake


Got myself 2 bayonets tough
a American M14 bayonet
(http://i483.photobucket.com/albums/rr195/beeker77/shooting/Bayonets/M14bayonetscabbard_composite_WEB.jpg)
15 euro

And a Swiss Sig 510 bayonet for 20 euro
(http://www.bayo-hunter.com/mycollect/Swiss4.jpg)

Very high quality blade and very cheap :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 07-07-2012, 21:07:04
does an URAL 650 motorcycle with sidecar go under militaria?

(we are going to rebuild it to as close looking an R71/75 as possible)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 07-07-2012, 21:07:20
does an URAL 650 motorcycle with sidecar go under militaria?

(we are going to rebuild it to as close looking an R71/75 as possible)
ofcourse

Ooh great, another project of a german thing  ;D ;D ;)

Saw a origenal Zundapp today. pretty beastly with DAK colours

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 09-07-2012, 19:07:11
The verdict fell on a Dnepr K-750, that have a better engine and looks more like the bmw than the 650 ural :)

the owner is out of town this week, but we'll get as soon after he gets home!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 09-07-2012, 19:07:25
The verdict fell on a Dnepr K-750, that have a better engine and looks more like the bmw than the 650 ural :)

the owner is out of town this week, but we'll get as soon after he gets home!
Excellent choise.

And a Ural 650 makes a diffrent engine noise then the BMW. Dneprs have a better matching sound

Ural"s are good but you need to make sure they are properly cleaned from storage
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 09-07-2012, 19:07:14
yes yes, luckely i am a mechanic :o

it Does annoy that norway with her many incredibly stupid rules, say that i cant change the license number to a.. WH 31171 for example..

well norway, we are gonna be two about that.

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 09-07-2012, 19:07:31
Not even during reenactment events?

Btw how much do you need to pay for Dnepr? and how much for se Ural?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 09-07-2012, 19:07:34
1300 euro for the Dnepr and 2400 for the ural, the Dnepr is a 1963 bike and the Ural is a 1992
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 09-07-2012, 19:07:03
1300 euro for the Dnepr and 2400 for the ural
THATS DIRTCHEAP DUDE

Shut up and take my money i would say!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 09-07-2012, 21:07:43
yes it is! the seller of the dnepr is batshit old too, i dont think he knows what its worth. or i he just wants to get rid of it  ;D all i need is some stuff here and there, some paint.. a mg34 mount for the sidecar.. boooya!

the plan to begin with is to buy it when i get home on leave from the army (two weeks leave!<3) then me and my buddy will go get that bike,if he dosnt go get it before i arrive home.

then do a quick service on it, then germany here we come!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Musti on 09-07-2012, 22:07:04
 ??? seems like a normal price for this motorcycle to me, unless its military version or something?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 10-07-2012, 01:07:34
??? seems like a normal price for this motorcycle to me, unless its military version or something?
A dnepr fetches alot more then 1300 euro here in Belgium
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 10-07-2012, 09:07:32
1300 euro is as thetasay, Dirtcheap here aswell  :)

i am having a hard time understandig if the Dnepr K750 is military bike or not, sources says nothing about it being an military bike and some do.. but if you look a little bit back in time URAL and DNEPR are soviet army bikes.. so yes i will Guess that this one is allso an Ex-soviet army bike from 1963  :) (the owner said it had some old green paint on it some places)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sheikyerbouti on 10-07-2012, 15:07:05
 green paint alone means nothing.

If you really want to find out, you will need to find the model number that will be on the bike somewhere. There is info pointing to a 750 military model but without the serial number, you could always look at how the drive is set-up for the sidecar. Apparently it had a different setup.

 If you want real knock-off's of the BMW, try and find a ChangJiang motorcycle. they are literally copies of the R-series from BMW with virtually no modifications.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 10-07-2012, 16:07:04
no, i dont want the CJ as then i would have to become a "full time greasemonkey", that is what the owners i know say about the CJ, it might look alot like, but that is Nothing i cant fix on a K750.
on the other, i dont really care if its a army bike or civilian, such is just fun to know, nothing more. its gonna be treated like an army bike, and thats all thats to it :)

being a mechanic myself, and then ofcourse having allot of mechanics at my side, we all agree that the CJ go out the window on this one :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 10-07-2012, 23:07:54
i have recently started setting money aside to aquire myself a springfield M1903. A springfield costs around 500 euro's minimal with prices going up to 1000 euro's.

Does anyone have any good regarding what model i should take? I really like the M1903 first models but how do i know if the rifle was converted to the .30-06. Since the M1903 was origenally designed for .30-03

And any reccomendations regarding the manufacturers of both the A1 and A3 models?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Hjaldrgud on 12-07-2012, 03:07:55
Lots of cool ww2 stuff. Only have semi related ww2 militaria photo

(http://i48.tinypic.com/2rdiv06.jpg)
Chilling in a foxhole with the MG42 successor, the Mg 3 on military exercise with His Majesty the Kings Guard. On the left is my  Hk416 rifle with 3x zoom (I am some kind of a Dedicated Marksman in my squad), to the right is the Hk416 with 40mm.

Notice the SAT on the tip of the barrels. We used Saab Personnel Detection Device, basically being able to really "kill" the enemy and of course dying yourself. I was werfed to death by mortars, artillery, and on one of the attacks my entire squad of eight men was cut down by the MG 3 in three-four seconds. It was really a soviet "Urrah" storm.


Good times
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 12-07-2012, 07:07:29
norway?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Hjaldrgud on 12-07-2012, 16:07:13
jepp ;)

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: GuinNess on 12-07-2012, 18:07:51
i have recently started setting money aside to aquire myself a springfield M1903. A springfield costs around 500 euro's minimal with prices going up to 1000 euro's.

Does anyone have any good regarding what model i should take? I really like the M1903 first models but how do i know if the rifle was converted to the .30-06. Since the M1903 was origenally designed for .30-03

And any reccomendations regarding the manufacturers of both the A1 and A3 models?

Go for a orginal 30.06, awsome round...

Last time i went to the gun shop, they had a 1903 A3 built by Remington (excellent condition) for 2500€
The seller told me that those are extremely rare but I wans't really sure because the serial nummer said someting around 3.200.000 i think.

I'm also looking for a Springfield A1 or A3 but I've got no money for the moment :P There 's a guy I know who sells one for 1000€. Original an saw combat. If you want more infos about that guno I can give you his number, he lives here in Luxembourg.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 12-07-2012, 18:07:57
Intresting, thanks Ben
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 13-07-2012, 19:07:32
jepp ;)

Kult, hvorfra? :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Sgt.KAR98 on 15-07-2012, 01:07:49
Hey guys,let me ask three things.

Never tried to buy anything from foreign sites,but I saw something interesting at this one:

www.sovietarmystuff.com/Product_173_L1_Soviet_Army_Chemical_NBC_Hazmat_Protection_Suit_L-1.html

Is it a trusted site?

Where I can find a complete Soviet late 80s army officer uniform?

And what is the regular price of an unused GP-5 gasmask?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 15-07-2012, 01:07:20
GP5 go around 5 to 20 euro  ;D

i have

6...
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 22-07-2012, 18:07:14
Hafthohlladung!

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00352.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00351.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00350.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00349.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 22-07-2012, 18:07:47
Where in turnation did you get that?  I want one
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 22-07-2012, 19:07:19
Reproduction?

The originals that we see for sale here a few times a year always look so rusty compared to yours, so it must have been at least given a good clean up.

Nice one though :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 22-07-2012, 19:07:12
forgot to write its a repro in the hurry! :) sadly because of shipping regulations there is no magnets on it, but ill see what a friend and he's CNC can do about that.. :) damn sturdy  reprod.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 22-07-2012, 20:07:32
(http://magixfree.com/m_pictures/thumbs/seor-gif-shut-up-and-take-my-money.gif)

Shut up and take my reichsmarks!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: flyboy_fx on 22-07-2012, 21:07:09
I WANT ONE!!!!!!!!!!! I could see me now, running around in parking lots sticking it to cars.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 22-07-2012, 22:07:55
sn00x

start mass production
please

den Mund halten und nimm mich geld!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: th_battleaxe on 23-07-2012, 11:07:25
Die Fresse halten und nimmt mein Geld!

Fixed

My German is getting a bit rusty though
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 23-07-2012, 18:07:37
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znDzDFBqpHE&feature=g-all-u&fb_source=message

swedish mauser is best mauser!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 28-07-2012, 00:07:47
the K750 got sold.... no worries.. i got a real beast!

behold, the Dnepr MB 650, this one is ex-military! (the year is unknown though from 1970 to 1990) for what price? under the price of the k750!

a little short vid of it before we started taking it apart

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LF0KEybnoL0

some pictures aswell! cool sticker?

(took  ofthe sidecar today and its ready to get some cool lookin german colours on it now)

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00361.jpg)

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00360.jpg)

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00358.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 28-07-2012, 02:07:23
its brilliant!


found out a while ago that BOTH of my lee enfields are broken

My SMLE seems to be missing a screw and a wrong firing pin
My No4 extractor is busted :/
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Oddball on 28-07-2012, 06:07:14
My baby I spent too much time and money on, restoration is not complete yet; but figured a few of you might still appreciate a photo. Not exactly military... but close enough, most people wouldn't know the difference between my jeep and the military Willys MB/ Ford GPW. Kudos to anyone who can identify...  ;)

(http://i912.photobucket.com/albums/ac324/Oddball_8/IMG_1802-1.jpg)

(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-transport027.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: McCloskey on 28-07-2012, 06:07:48
The headlights, you gotta do something with the headlights... then it'll look much better ;)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Oddball on 28-07-2012, 07:07:51
The headlights, you gotta do something with the headlights... then it'll look much better ;)

Headlights are a key feature, the MB's and GPW's had smaller, recessed headlights... (http://www.desismileys.com/smileys/desismileys_3266.gif) (http://www.desismileys.com/)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 28-07-2012, 07:07:37
its brilliant!


found out a while ago that BOTH of my lee enfields are broken

My SMLE seems to be missing a screw and a wrong firing pin
My No4 extractor is busted :/

SMLE's had 3 types of firing pin and several different headspacing heads, explain wrong please.
What screw is missing?

What is wrong with the extractor? the spring broke? i have some spares.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 28-07-2012, 12:07:06
Yes the spring broke of my No4. I can buy one over yes?


As for the SMLE, all 3 screws are missing and my firing pin constanly sticks "out"
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 28-07-2012, 16:07:33
Yeah, you can have a spring if you buy me a drink in Waver :)
I will even install it if you bring me your bolt and a strong needle or very fine flat screwdriver.

Can we have pictures of the other defects please? I do not what you mean by all 3 screws are missing. And a firing pin that sticks out is not always bad, i have to check it for the SMLE though.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 28-07-2012, 18:07:20
oh yeah! just ordered lots and lots of germany army paint!

going back to army for three weeks though...........
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Lupin on 28-07-2012, 23:07:06
Does anyone here know about WWI knives? I've recently discovered that one of the knives that have been in the family since WWI is an EB2 trench knife, and from what little information I've found they seem to be fairly rare. Any idea how much one of those would be worth?

Mines a little roughed up, but with some thorough cleaning I imagine it wouldn't be too bad. I'll try to get a picture later, but it's not fantastic looking.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 29-07-2012, 01:07:27
Photos please :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Lupin on 29-07-2012, 01:07:15
Photos please :)

Unfortunately, its got a lot more rust than I remember..

(http://i.imgur.com/iRHHP.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/EWLc2.jpg)

It's a Franz Koeller & Cie and still has a little bit of the original green paint, but it's missing the leather pieces from the sheath. Getting the corrosion off the blade wouldn't be too difficult I imagine, but the handle's so bad I don't think anything can be done about it.

Most likely worthless in this condition.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 30-07-2012, 19:07:33
a little update on the bike! :)

the silvergreyish coat you see is actually Cold-Galvanazing wich is used by industries on pipes, beams, and bla bla bla, its a nice thing me friends father got this things at  he's work as it aint sold to civilians :)

the sidecar is done now with a full primer coat and we painted the inside with Hammerite to protect extra well from rust and scratches and so on. we will allso paint some of the underside of the sidecar and buke with hammerite once we have painted it, not on To visiblae places ofcourse (pictures are to come of the sidecar)

allso a whole new electrical wiring set is on its way! only 20$ for a new set! from russia! I Love You russian love-price CCCP items <3

for those who wonder, the engine has only gone for about 1100km, wich is a Very great thing!


(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00364.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00365.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 30-07-2012, 20:07:02
I wassent jealous when you where bolstering das ego that you could drive a hanomag


BUT I AM JEALOUS NOW


Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 30-07-2012, 20:07:47
haha, we even named her! Zerstörer Helga! (Helga the Destroyer) ill paint a little valkyrie on it when its done..!  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 30-07-2012, 20:07:12
haha, we even named her! Zerstörer Helga! (Helga the Destroyer) ill paint a little valkyrie on it when its done..!  ;D
Bitte take a video of zhe maiden when she purrs her engine  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 30-07-2012, 20:07:15
ofcourse!  :D we are gonna fit a GoPro on the maiden voyage!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 30-07-2012, 20:07:44
i am saving for a motorcycle like this aswel. My long lived dream  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 30-07-2012, 20:07:00
HURRDURR! mine has come true! <3

paint it german camo and put grossdeutschland markings on it, and lets meet on the middle! (somewhere in gemarny or south tip of denmark i guess)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 30-07-2012, 20:07:52
Add me on steam theta2101 or you will be shot  :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Musti on 30-07-2012, 21:07:39
<Bender voice> RUSSIAN BIKES! Cheap Russian motorbikes!....

Looks great! There is something special about those bikes, great fun to ride too.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 30-07-2012, 22:07:59
i cant even explain the joy i felt when riding in that sidecar.. it was just a constant huge smile on my face. saying it was awesome, isnt even close to explaining it
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 30-07-2012, 22:07:31
My baby I spent too much time and money on, restoration is not complete yet; but figured a few of you might still appreciate a photo. Not exactly military... but close enough, most people wouldn't know the difference between my jeep and the military Willys MB/ Ford GPW. Kudos to anyone who can identify...  ;)


This is super sweet, man!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 30-07-2012, 22:07:19
(http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/7341/006fek.jpg)

<3
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Oddball on 30-07-2012, 22:07:17
My baby I spent too much time and money on, restoration is not complete yet; but figured a few of you might still appreciate a photo. Not exactly military... but close enough, most people wouldn't know the difference between my jeep and the military Willys MB/ Ford GPW. Kudos to anyone who can identify...  ;)


This is super sweet, man!

Thanks, super fun, too! If you ever get an opportunity to buy one... do it! You will not regret it, great investment and great excitement - even the restoration process. If you ever need help with one or picking one up, contact me or visit G503.com or cj2apage.com/forums.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Steel_Lion_FIN on 01-08-2012, 00:08:10
Your Mosin-Nagants have a sticky bolt? Then check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLL20Oh4P8M (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLL20Oh4P8M)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 01-08-2012, 16:08:18
dunno if this belongs to militaria, but I've just found an old "american army officer's overcoat" from 1944/45 in my granddads closet. Being unable to take a photo and upload it at this time, I'd like to ask someone if able to link a good quality walkaround of the coat so I can see if what I found is the real deal.


You know, the double-breasted 3 button overcoat, the regular green color, not wool but cotton I'd say (but don't listen to me eh, lighter than wool in any case), the ethiquette on the left (and only) inside pocket saying "Regulation - Officer's - O'coat Field"
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 01-08-2012, 16:08:20
Would love to see pics if you can arrange. And yeah, perfectly fine thread for it. :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 01-08-2012, 17:08:32
I'm afraid a proper picture will take (give or take) 18 days to upload, I'm on vacation and wasn't really planing to photograph criminal evidence so, no camera...

it also has an...what's the word... "detachable wool/silk under-layer for winter conditions".... yeah, A+ for my english vocabulary.

on its ethiquette it says:
"MFG'D(or J, not sure) FOR GOVERNMENTAL USE ONLY UNDER PATENT NOS. RE. 2.676 & 2*98064


* - there could be a 1 written there but since it's worn out I can't really tell
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Lupin on 02-08-2012, 01:08:12
dunno if this belongs to militaria, but I've just found an old "american army officer's overcoat" from 1944/45 in my granddads closet. Being unable to take a photo and upload it at this time, I'd like to ask someone if able to link a good quality walkaround of the coat so I can see if what I found is the real deal.


You know, the double-breasted 3 button overcoat, the regular green color, not wool but cotton I'd say (but don't listen to me eh, lighter than wool in any case), the ethiquette on the left (and only) inside pocket saying "Regulation - Officer's - O'coat Field"

I have one of those. Same production date too.

Mine was re-issued post war to the Okinawan occupation forces if I recall.

Looks like this, right?
(http://i.imgur.com/HUCai.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 02-08-2012, 14:08:50
here is the sidecar ready for some paint!
i say again, the black hammerite will be covered in paint, its just to protect exposed areas.


we allso got to take of the fenders today, and the paint is nearly untouched under them, says just a little about how little this bike have been used :)

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00366.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/DSC00367.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 02-08-2012, 15:08:18


I have one of those. Same production date too.

Mine was re-issued post war to the Okinawan occupation forces if I recall.

Looks like this, right?
(http://i.imgur.com/HUCai.jpg)


Yep, that's the shit  alright :D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Steel_Lion_FIN on 02-08-2012, 16:08:43
Using red Ferrex as the primer? The crap won't stick.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 02-08-2012, 17:08:07
ferrex? who said anything about what kind of primer it is? thats just a color  ;) and that primer has served us more than well enough on cars! or as you would say "crap will stick" forever faith in Biltema primers!

the bike is not supposed to look like it is brand new, like the ones most people do. its gonna be dirty, scratched paint, its supposed to look a little bit more like war. not a new porsche that you protect every single mm of paint with your life.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 04-08-2012, 14:08:41
Finnaly


https://www.dropbox.com/s/7jt6a5b7ljybdzs/DSC00179.JPG
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qf6i75nzj0hccjs/DSC00180.JPG
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5qpqp814s2bomib/DSC00176.JPG
https://www.dropbox.com/s/44042pmfcumft0p/DSC00175.JPG
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ub1debbkra2a9wo/DSC00181.JPG

A 1918 Remington made M1917 Enfield. The M1917 was always a rifle i wanted. Mauser fanboys called it a bastards rifle. Enfield fanboys call it the same. But its sweet looks, its unusual design always facinated me.

And i always wanted either a springfield or this. But springfields are very expensive here. Same goes with the M1917. 500 euro was the price, and people consider this CHEAP! the reason why the price is low, is because the bayonet attachment is filed off. Since this part is not serial matched, i might get a new barrel band thing wich does have a bayonet attachment.

Everything works smooth. The barrel is sticky tough because of zhe cosmoline. But i could insert a clip of demill .30-06 with no problem, cycle, and pull the trigger. The firing pin works also.
I have seen these rifles priced at up to 850 euros.

Shame it doesnt have the WW2 era barrel. many M1917 recieved brand new barrels. But i suppose this adds to the historic value of my rifle. my barrel looks good :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: th_battleaxe on 04-08-2012, 15:08:45
nice catch you've got there, old chap, you don't see those very often.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 04-08-2012, 15:08:31
nice catch you've got there, old chap, you don't see those very often.
Yep. P14"s are often seen because of the 1.3 million built and 900 000 used by UK and EU Free forces untill 1945. M1917 however, 1.3 million where returned to Service in WW2, of wich 900 000 for US army. Despite 2.45 million M1917 made compared to 1.3 million P14, a M1917 always fetches much more in Europe

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Ciupita on 07-08-2012, 19:08:32
Got a lot of stuff today from my uncle to store (he ran out of space).

- Lotta-Svärd Uniform, hat + all medals belonging to it... also many many armbands for it.
- Finnish Officer's and NCO's peaked cap's and 2 infantry forage/garrison caps.
- Shitloads of all kinds of insignia's, from private to major.

Too bad I don't have a camera.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Tim270 on 08-08-2012, 01:08:45
Some stuff I have come by,

East German 47 bayo
http://i.imgur.com/22CVT.jpg

British air raid wardens helmet. It was my grandfathers, although I am not sure how he came by it as during the war he worked as a engineer repairing crashed spitfires and hurricanes, it might have been his, I was to young to really ask about it before he died. The leather inside is starting to go a bit, I need some sort of softener for it really to stop it cracking.
http://i.imgur.com/GENvg.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/LSWsf.jpg

De-milled '44 mosin. Selling it next week for a small profit.
http://i.imgur.com/efKH5.jpg

Soviet side cap, could easily be a repo I dont know, the markings inside are quite hard to make out and I lack knowledge on the piece. Most likely post ww2 issue though.
http://i.imgur.com/MV16O.jpg

De-milled '42 Turkish Mauser. Most likely going to sell it on soon as I dont really like have deactivated rifles.
http://i.imgur.com/pUnn9.jpg


Looking to get more into collecting at some point for sure.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Yustax on 13-08-2012, 03:08:49
It took a while....but here it is:

M24 SWS

(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c49/Yustax/DSC03005.jpg)
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c49/Yustax/DSC03006.jpg)
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c49/Yustax/DSC03007.jpg)
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c49/Yustax/DSC03008.jpg)
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c49/Yustax/DSC03011.jpg)
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c49/Yustax/DSC03009.jpg)
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c49/Yustax/DSC03014.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Steel_Lion_FIN on 13-08-2012, 12:08:09
Any plans for modifications? I'd recommend bedding the stock and attaching another sling mount on the left side of the stock, so that you can carry it on your back without having the bolt knob or the bipod pushing against your back. What scope do you intend to put on the rifle, and which mounts?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Ciupita on 13-08-2012, 13:08:08
Got a lot of stuff today from my uncle to store (he ran out of space).

- Lotta-Svärd Uniform, hat + all medals belonging to it... also many many armbands for it.
- Finnish Officer's and NCO's peaked cap's and 2 infantry forage/garrison caps.
- Shitloads of all kinds of insignia's, from private to major.

Too bad I don't have a camera.

Most of stuff... I forgot to mention a (postwar) finnish Stahlhelm and interwar era Adrian (might be firefighter-helmet actually)
http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af343/Ciupita/Historical/IMG_1133.jpg
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Yustax on 13-08-2012, 13:08:51
Any plans for modifications? I'd recommend bedding the stock and attaching another sling mount on the left side of the stock, so that you can carry it on your back without having the bolt knob or the bipod pushing against your back. What scope do you intend to put on the rifle, and which mounts?

There is no need for bedding, as the stock is precisely doing th at already.  I dont know about mods yet, but i wont include an oversized bolt knob. I will use the proper scope on the m24. The mk4 m3, or the predecessor of it, the varii III.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Steel_Lion_FIN on 13-08-2012, 14:08:59
Any plans for modifications? I'd recommend bedding the stock and attaching another sling mount on the left side of the stock, so that you can carry it on your back without having the bolt knob or the bipod pushing against your back. What scope do you intend to put on the rifle, and which mounts?

There is no need for bedding, as the stock is precisely doing th at already.  I dont know about mods yet, but i wont include an oversized bolt knob. I will use the proper scope on the m24. The mk4 m3, or the predecessor of it, the varii III.

Well yes, if the stock and the action are made to exact measures, you won't need a bedding job. But what are the chances that they are perfect match due tolerances in the build? You can't go wrong if you bed the stock, unless you totally fuck it up.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Yustax on 13-08-2012, 16:08:32
Because it does has the same measure. The stock is special cause it wont fit if it doesnr has the same measurements and you need a botton metal made for the stock up to military specs, and this is real military spec, except for the scope mount.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: IrishReloaded on 13-08-2012, 17:08:50
During my lunchbreak I saw advertisment of local gunstore (with most stupid opening times ever) with advertisment of mosi nagant (num match) + bayo (dont know if num match too) for 300€
kinda much isnt it?
Ill try to see it tomorow, what model must it be and which quality to be worth 300?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Oddball on 13-08-2012, 18:08:10
I hope it's something special, even with hex receivers, 91/30's around here are only a little over $100 USD, including the bayonet, sling, and cleaning kit. Even a carbine usually wont run you over $300 USD never mind 300 euro... maybe firearms in general are more expensive there?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: IrishReloaded on 13-08-2012, 18:08:37
I think US is just the super cheap weapon country - from my little knowledge
My 90% number matched k98 portugese version in used but good condition was 450€ and was the cheapest Ive seen in a long time -
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 13-08-2012, 18:08:00
get some photos
I need to see these areas properly

http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/2663/mosin.png
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Steel_Lion_FIN on 13-08-2012, 20:08:13
Because it does has the same measure. The stock is special cause it wont fit if it doesnr has the same measurements and you need a botton metal made for the stock up to military specs, and this is real military spec, except for the scope mount.

Well, I guess you can see if the stock and the action measures match up after you've fired enough rounds from it. Check out this video and you'll see what you're looking for: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1Wbrj9yJpA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1Wbrj9yJpA) Of course you should watch every part of the video series, it's excellent footage.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: GuinNess on 13-08-2012, 23:08:07
During my lunchbreak I saw advertisment of local gunstore (with most stupid opening times ever) with advertisment of mosi nagant (num match) + bayo (dont know if num match too) for 300€
kinda much isnt it?
Ill try to see it tomorow, what model must it be and which quality to be worth 300?

I would not spend 300€ on a Mosin-Nagant, unless it's a scope one....then...maybe
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 13-08-2012, 23:08:35
During my lunchbreak I saw advertisment of local gunstore (with most stupid opening times ever) with advertisment of mosi nagant (num match) + bayo (dont know if num match too) for 300€
kinda much isnt it?
Ill try to see it tomorow, what model must it be and which quality to be worth 300?

I would not spend 300€ on a Mosin-Nagant, unless it's a scope one....then...maybe
It really depends what model. If it is an origenal Tsar era mosin or a finnish one, 300 euro is actually low priced
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 13-08-2012, 23:08:05
The original scoped ones in Belgium go for 650 to 850. Really depends on where on this planet you are.

If you are European then 300 for a rifle is never bad, no matter what you bought.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Yustax on 14-08-2012, 02:08:57
Well, I guess you can see if the stock and the action measures match up after you've fired enough rounds from it. Check out this video and you'll see what you're looking for: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1Wbrj9yJpA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1Wbrj9yJpA) Of course you should watch every part of the video series, it's excellent footage.

Im seeing it, wonderful vids. By the way. The action was trued and the lugs lapped.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: GuinNess on 14-08-2012, 08:08:10
Irish, if you only want to spent around 300€ why don't you take a look for a swiss K31? Here in Luxemburg you can get a nice one for 250-300€.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 14-08-2012, 09:08:29
GuinNess, can a Belgian buy free to own weapons in Luxembourg? or is it Illegal, or do I need a special permit for it.

I know that with a Belgian licence I can buy ammunition, but not if I can buy weapons.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: GuinNess on 14-08-2012, 17:08:36
GuinNess, can a Belgian buy free to own weapons in Luxembourg? or is it Illegal, or do I need a special permit for it.

I know that with a Belgian licence I can buy ammunition, but not if I can buy weapons.

There are no "free to own weapons" like you know in Belgium here in Luxemburg. If you are interested to buy a gun here in Luxemburg you have to fill out this paper (exists only in french -.-) http://www.guichet.public.lu/fr/citoyens/formulaires/armes/etranger/transfert-arme-etranger/demande-FR.pdf
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 14-08-2012, 18:08:27

I know that with a Belgian licence I can buy ammunition, but not if I can buy weapons.
If you have a license, you can fill in the above form GuiNness sended and buy a HFD in Luxembourg

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 14-08-2012, 20:08:18
Aah, very good! If i see a nice bolt action I can take it home now. I am planning on taking a trip to Luxembourg by train in the not so far future.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: GuinNess on 20-08-2012, 23:08:13
Aah, very good! If i see a nice bolt action I can take it home now. I am planning on taking a trip to Luxembourg by train in the not so far future.

I can recommend you 3 shops here in Luxemburg:

Armurerie Frauenberg in Niederfeulen http://www.armurerie-frauenberg.lu/index.php
Very good service & consulting + you have the chance to test fire your weapon on a 100 m shooting range.

Armurerie Raoul Cloos http://www.arc.lu/
Good stuff in stock and fair prices but I can't really get warm with shopmen, he does not much talking.

Armurerie Frantz Think
http://www.editus.lu/ed/fr/frantz-think-%28succ-michel-think%29-dudelange-27493.html

Nice guys, has a lot of bolt-action rifles but most of them were NOT in the best condition.

I hope I could help you a little bit

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 21-08-2012, 20:08:36
thanks guinness

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMWqTZz1lcQ&feature=g-all-u
i really like this guy his videos

but this
crosses my line

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Thorondor123 on 21-08-2012, 20:08:15
Well that is just plain ugly.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Musti on 21-08-2012, 20:08:10
I like the side-folding stock. But it could do without the shortened barrel and that scope...
i really like this guy his videos

but this
crosses my line
Whats wrong with that?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 21-08-2012, 20:08:17
no musti

ONE does not simply sportize Military surplus bolt action rifles. not even mosin nagants

that JUST aint right!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Musti on 21-08-2012, 20:08:10
Oh no! only 36 999 999 left! I'd understand if it was some rare model or something (I'd hate to see that as well) but sporterizing a 100$ 91/30? There are shit tons of them lying around, nothing wrong with having some fun.And it sure as hell is better than leaving it in a box. He has a bunch of them (in excellent condition) so I'm not surprised he wanted to modify one.I don't like the way he did it, but its a matter of taste.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: IrishReloaded on 21-08-2012, 21:08:53
I like the one with the AK stock and grip - the rest - omg what a crime
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 21-08-2012, 22:08:03
Big update! (and thats when.... i ran out of paint...)

and Yes! we have a very "unproffesional" way of painting it, but it works and i am pleased!  ;D

i allso got a spray that removes the gloss :)

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/2012-08-21164732.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/2012-08-21164740.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/2012-08-21164754.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/2012-08-21164809.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/2012-08-21175307.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/2012-08-21175317.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/2012-08-21175324.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/2012-08-21181332.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/2012-08-21181347.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/2012-08-21184322.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: GuinNess on 22-08-2012, 08:08:05
If I get some day a motorcycle license, I will definitely buy such a motorcycle. I just love them. Keep up the good work 8)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 30-08-2012, 19:08:18
I have 2 of these for like ages (Made to be a pair i think looking at the layout), some unknown WW1 shell decorated to remember 14-17 battles in Belgium (yser airea)

(http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/5575/20120830194236.jpg)

Why it says 14-17 instead of 14-18 I do not know. Suggestions are welcome. Maybe it was made before the war was over.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Eat Uranium on 31-08-2012, 00:08:38
What calibre and shell length is it?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: th_battleaxe on 31-08-2012, 14:08:19
It's probably a 37 mm, most likely used in FT-17's
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 31-08-2012, 15:08:53
Okay gentlemen. i need your opinion on this


I have 2 mosin nagants. One is a Hexa reciever 1928 Ish and one round reciever Ish from 1936.
The hexa receivers are free to own. The round ones are not. but that one is at the gunshop for untill i have my license

Now both of these rifles are refurbished.

But my 1928 hexa is not completly refurbished. This was once an ex-dragoon rifle. I can tell this from the markings. And the fact that it STILL has its origenal stock(not the model 30 one) and its sling slots have screws. It also has the earlier cleaning rod. And the barrel bands etc are dragoon ones.

However, the wood did got varnished. And the sights are the model 30 ones.BUT it did NOT got reblued! This stamp is absent and i can see it a bit on the reciever. The blueing is not as dark as post war reblued mosins

Now since the sights are not serial numberd. I am considering buying old the old sights

i am talking about these sights
(http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/1108.jpg)
(http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/1009.jpg)
(http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/1005.jpg)


Is this considerd a sin for historical accuracy? I am NOT planning to resell this rifle. But its that, finding a origenal dragoon rifle is almost impossible here
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sheikyerbouti on 01-09-2012, 01:09:40
 It is your rifle Theta, do as you see fit.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 01-09-2012, 12:09:07
What calibre and shell length is it?

It seems to measure 37 x 94r Searched for a bit but can't seem to find the same type of projectile.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 02-09-2012, 15:09:12
Finnaly


https://www.dropbox.com/s/7jt6a5b7ljybdzs/DSC00179.JPG
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qf6i75nzj0hccjs/DSC00180.JPG
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5qpqp814s2bomib/DSC00176.JPG
https://www.dropbox.com/s/44042pmfcumft0p/DSC00175.JPG
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ub1debbkra2a9wo/DSC00181.JPG

A 1918 Remington made M1917 Enfield. The M1917 was always a rifle i wanted. Mauser fanboys called it a bastards rifle. Enfield fanboys call it the same. But its sweet looks, its unusual design always facinated me.

And i always wanted either a springfield or this. But springfields are very expensive here. Same goes with the M1917. 500 euro was the price, and people consider this CHEAP! the reason why the price is low, is because the bayonet attachment is filed off. Since this part is not serial matched, i might get a new barrel band thing wich does have a bayonet attachment.

Everything works smooth. The barrel is sticky tough because of zhe cosmoline. But i could insert a clip of demill .30-06 with no problem, cycle, and pull the trigger. The firing pin works also.
I have seen these rifles priced at up to 850 euros.

Shame it doesnt have the WW2 era barrel. many M1917 recieved brand new barrels. But i suppose this adds to the historic value of my rifle. my barrel looks good :)


the rifle is again 100% authenthic! I found myself an origenal M1917 upper band WITH bayonet attachment!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 02-09-2012, 16:09:35
Aah, very nice!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 02-09-2012, 22:09:33
The upper barrel band was the only thing that was not origenal, as the bayonet attachment was viled off. Now i got myself a new one(installed it, my god it was difficult!) and its an origenal remington one.

The next plan is to get a Remington bayonet.
(http://www.old-smithy.info/bayonets/fullsize/USA/US%20M1917.jpg)
(http://www.usmilitaryknives.com/10-06.jpg)
Since my M1917 did NOT got refurbished after WW1, the plan is to aquire a set of the WW1 american infantry soldier. After the origenal bayonet, it is the plan to get the=
-origenal brass stripper clips (found them on internets),
-a Sling (origenal and repro. Repro for usage on the gun range).
-Cleaning equipment. my M1917 did not came with the oil brush/pot
-Ammo pouches and bandoleer
-Additional equipment like a muzzle canvas cover and such.

In wich the long term plan is to aquire myself an complete uniform of the American WW1 soldier.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 08-10-2012, 10:10:01
time for a small update..
starting to get it to pieces, though the electrical wiring are Killing us.. every manual we can find are different, and the colors on the wiring are different from any of the manuals  :-X

Today might be the day of the camo pattern  :)

START DAMN YOU!

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/2012-10-07140935.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/2012-10-07140949.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 08-10-2012, 17:10:12
Mmmm, she's looking amazing!  Have you given her a name yet?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 08-10-2012, 18:10:50
i propose Erika or Gertrude!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 08-10-2012, 18:10:32
Zerstörer Helga!
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Post by: Steel_Lion_FIN on 08-10-2012, 18:10:58
Helga gets my vote!
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Post by: VonMudra on 08-10-2012, 18:10:24
Zerstörer Helga!

Perfect, paint a sharksmouth on the side car. ;) xD
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Post by: siben on 08-10-2012, 18:10:48
time for a small update..
starting to get it to pieces, though the electrical wiring are Killing us.. every manual we can find are different, and the colors on the wiring are different from any of the manuals  :-X

Aah, glad to see nothing has changed. It is the same still today with trains build as late as 10 years ago. The wiring depends on whoever did it and what material he had. Colours mean nothing. Same with manuals. What counted was that it worked. So don't worry to much about it.
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Post by: sn00x on 08-10-2012, 21:10:38
Zerstörer Helga!

Perfect, paint a sharksmouth on the side car. ;) xD

haha, thats exactly what my friend said the other day!  ;D

@Siben, yeah thats what i ended up doing today, just crosschecking that "that cable goes from that to that" bu Then! now it is the ignition.. (where you put the key) how in the name of god an we know where to put those 5 cables?

any electro engineer proshit dudes here that know some handy tips on how to figure out  those filthy ingition locks? when you dont have the one that comes iwth the bike
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Post by: sn00x on 14-10-2012, 20:10:52
 I am Never buying russian again. Ever.   >:(

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/2012-10-14193535.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/2012-10-14193303.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/2012-10-14193250.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/2012-10-14193202.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/2012-10-14193137.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/2012-10-14193109.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/2012-10-14193053.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/2012-10-14193041.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/2012-10-14193034.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/2012-10-14193016.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/2012-10-14193009.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 14-10-2012, 20:10:21
Is is working? Did you figure it all out? Cant really help you with the lock unless I walk you true it via voice.
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Post by: sn00x on 14-10-2012, 20:10:45
the right piston had rusted stuck, but we fixed that.. we first taught it was the clutch, but that was fine.. allso the wiring is a mess, my friend brought the diagram with him to school (electrical engineering) and the engineers said nothing made sense at all  ;D so now i have to put it all back together again and put the old wiring back, ill get my father who just happens to be an electrician to do it.  :)

the engine itself is in prima condition only having 1100km on it, problem was that the idiot we baught it off had removed the piston gasket and used it on he's other bike without telling us, thus letting water in -> rust.
atleast i use good time cleaning everything now, A clean bike is a happy bike! :)
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Post by: :| Hi on 14-10-2012, 20:10:37
Sn00x if you don't mind, could I get a look at a electrical diagram, would like to get a good laugh out of it
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Post by: siben on 14-10-2012, 20:10:41
Good idea, post it here.
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Post by: sn00x on 14-10-2012, 22:10:16
(http://www.goodkarmaproductions.com/HTML/PDF/1984_Dnepr_MT-11_MT-16.gif)
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Post by: ScreamingEagle_USA on 15-10-2012, 15:10:33
(http://mosinnaganthunting.webs.com/PICT0002.JPG)

This is my dad's rifle, it's a 1933 Mosin Nagant 91/30 converting into a hunting rifle. Maybe when I get I make it back into original, but its good for hunting. This is the one he exact copied:
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Post by: Flippy Warbear on 15-10-2012, 17:10:56
/me has a stroke.
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Post by: Thorondor123 on 15-10-2012, 17:10:13
Mosin & Nagant 91/30 is a hunting rifle as it is. No need to convert anything.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: th_battleaxe on 15-10-2012, 17:10:32
/me has a stroke.
*Battleaxe has two strokes and brain trombose
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Post by: THeTA0123 on 15-10-2012, 17:10:48
my reaction would be

http://youtu.be/X-DmwZRGvvo?t=1m29s

I have 6 bolt action rifles i plan to register once i get my license in a few weeks

-Steyr M95/30
-Yugoslavian M24-52C mauser(8x57IS)
-Swedish mauser Gevar 96
-Karbiner 31
-M1917 enfield
-Mosin nagant

I know a person who offered 2 times the amount i payed for the Yugo mauser and the Swedish mauser. Both of these rifles are in excellent condition.
His plan?
Attach a pistol grip, shorten the barrels, attach a hunting stock, place a 10X scope on it, attach a bipod, remove bayonet slug and remove upper handguard. Also removing the factory markings and applying his own markings


Over my burned carcasse :/
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Post by: VonMudra on 15-10-2012, 19:10:00
I shall have a stroke, then heart attack, then finally collapse in a pool of blood from the knife I just dug into my stomach.
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Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 15-10-2012, 20:10:23
First World problems...
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Post by: Fuchs on 15-10-2012, 21:10:17
One picture cleansed this forum.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: th_battleaxe on 16-10-2012, 19:10:53
Not quite, since we Flemish can withstand several food-induced strokes at the same time the only thing I had to worry about was the brain trombose. Luckily, the same surgeon that performed the lobotomy on Inspector Tiger was in the neighbourhood.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 18-10-2012, 12:10:33
so.... Hi? Siben?  :D
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Post by: siben on 18-10-2012, 19:10:18
so.... Hi? Siben?  :D

I don't understand it 100% What I think is happening is that this will never pass any modern rules because they seem to use the old method of always keeping the positive connected and use the negative to turn things on and off with the fuses being at the end of the circuit.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 18-10-2012, 20:10:30
it allso uses the chassis as minus at some points
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Post by: THeTA0123 on 21-10-2012, 20:10:12
DROVE today with a Willy Jeep! Made in 1944. Oooh god driving that thing, hood down, windscreen down. Sun shining, in flanders country side.  I have recorded quite some footage i will upload it later
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 21-10-2012, 20:10:00
It is kind of a janky looking diagram, but then again I'm more so trained in digital electronics, there are a couple icons I don't know on there
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Post by: LuckyOne on 21-10-2012, 20:10:17
DROVE today with a Willy Jeep! Made in 1944. Oooh god driving that thing, hood down, windscreen down. Sun shining, in flanders country side.  I have recorded quite some footage i will upload it later

*jelly*

I've seen one in the city a few days ago, but I think it doesn't have the original engine in it, as it sounded quite different than the ones in the game and on youtube...
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 21-10-2012, 23:10:37
The sound of a willy is absolutely amazing. Its like a german gasoline engine. Or a Ford GAF tank engine. it "Growls" when you hit the gas when the gear is in neutral.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Sgt.KAR98 on 25-10-2012, 02:10:12
Would like to ask 2 things for the euro community.
Anyone know if there's any surplus or replica store (physical if possible) in Nice or in that region at the border of France-Italy?
And are those stuff that cheap in Europe?I saw a site from Italy that had a lot of coats,parkas and hoodies for 9€
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 26-10-2012, 15:10:41
wish me luck boys. This sunday is the biggest militaria fair of Europe. My goal is a Jungle carbine No 5 MKI of the lee enfield series.
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Post by: th_battleaxe on 26-10-2012, 15:10:09
wish me luck boys. This sunday is the biggest militaria fair of Europe. My goal is a Jungle carbine No 5 MKI of the lee enfield series.

Godvermiljaar, the guy from university who went there stopped. There goes the opportunity in a puff of smoke.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 26-10-2012, 15:10:42
wish me luck boys. This sunday is the biggest militaria fair of Europe. My goal is a Jungle carbine No 5 MKI of the lee enfield series.

Godvermiljaar, the guy from university who went there stopped. There goes the opportunity in a puff of smoke.
Where do you live old chap?
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Post by: th_battleaxe on 26-10-2012, 15:10:03
'Fraid not this time, old chap, I've got a ton of work to do and it looks like it's going to be sunday work. Add to that the obligatory dropping by the grand-parents. Not to mention that tomorrow evening KV mechelen is playing, and that's going to be a late nighter.  :(
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Post by: THeTA0123 on 26-10-2012, 16:10:46
Blimey! That is a real let-down. Well good Sir, i hope we do see eachother next time. Shall we say, Waver next week? Saturday before noon?
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Post by: th_battleaxe on 26-10-2012, 17:10:21
You've caught me in the busy time of the year, I'm afraid, but wasn't there a fair in Ciney in the spring?
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Post by: THeTA0123 on 26-10-2012, 17:10:42
Yes
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Post by: th_battleaxe on 26-10-2012, 17:10:59
I think then would be better ;)
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Post by: Korsakov829 on 27-10-2012, 02:10:50
(http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/6150/pepperbox.png)
Just one of those things you see at auction, and just have to buy or you'll never find one again. Still works.
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Post by: :| Hi on 27-10-2012, 05:10:13
What the fuck is it  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Korsakov829 on 27-10-2012, 05:10:01
9.20mm Ethan Allen, four barrels.
An old pepperbox pistol (not a blunderbuss), could be as old as mid 17th century and onwards but its no replica, for sure. These things tend to have 3-22 barrels. Two barrels, thats just a double-barrel pistol. They come in rifles too, can find a few modern gun designs as well. Now, this is a repeater, it doesn't fire all barrels at once, the ones that do are volley guns.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: luftwaffe.be on 27-10-2012, 16:10:47
you can consider it as an early revolver, but instead of having a revolver changing the bullet in the chamber, you rotate the barrel to load your next bullet. These where not that uncommon and came in a large variety. most common where 2 or 4 barrel pistols. They first arrived in late 17th century  and met their hight during the american revolution, after which they started to be replaced with early revolvers.   
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 03-11-2012, 17:11:51
Hey guys, long time since i posted new pictures here, but here are some new things in my collection. Cookies for who can identify them all.


(http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/4059/20121103124607.jpg)
(http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/4472/20121103124825.jpg)
(http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/2264/20121103124723.jpg)
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Post by: THeTA0123 on 03-11-2012, 18:11:22
Sir please! MORE photo's of dat P14 and Carcano!
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Post by: Fuchs on 03-11-2012, 18:11:16
You gave away the first one. Then I spot a Carcano cavalry carbine with it's sexy on-board bayonet and a normal Carcano carbine.
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Post by: THeTA0123 on 03-11-2012, 18:11:19
The second one is the M1891 moschetto di cavaleria

The third one is a modello 38 in 6.5mm carcano
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Post by: Mayhemic.MAD on 03-11-2012, 19:11:51
My latest read:
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ive_4R2ECRQ/UJQmRPbQeuI/AAAAAAAACYM/2jgizUSDXFo/s640/DSC00299.JPG) (https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/vPRF4nr2hdb6GmQlmZTe6tMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite)

A interesting book with a collection of stories from Sturmgeschütz Crews, ranging from France to the Balkan and Greece and to the Eastern Front.
Printed in 1944 by Verlag "Die Wehrmacht", Berlin
It´s on the list of forbidden media in germany, but a lot of the stories can also be found in "Die Sturmgeschütz-Brigade 191" and maybe other books. Actually I wonder why it got on the index, since some of the stories are actually not very heroic or anything. To the contrary, some stories feel like reading Remarque and especially the last leaves you with the impression that the fight is hopeless anyway.
Considered "extremly rare" and sells for 200 € in militaria book shops, but mine is in a really bad condition with the binding falling apart and all pages getting loose. Made of cheap paper and glue.  I guess thats why it´s so rare. :-\

Nice drawings for each chapter.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-gj9HmkUMdQ0/UJQmRngjVgI/AAAAAAAACZA/c4KdPRnXNEM/s640/DSC00302.JPG) (https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/ObTAt1LmLkIY_Bf7XzQKp9MTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite)
"The weapons face"

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ZQdengt60TY/UJQmRjmlaFI/AAAAAAAACY4/aNLNqNH_CTI/s640/DSC00306.JPG) (https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/dpeRixUKq0R6cfM4v0Q9E9MTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite)
"Fighting in the east"

It also has a lot of photographs. Since it´s rare, I might scan the Images properly and post them in the Image of the day thread.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-LCNn6BACBEo/UJQmVG8ln-I/AAAAAAAACYw/4fS6l0bQOlU/s640/DSC00308.JPG" height="480" width="640) (https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/P3-Xm2noPljMKgDYb8ESutMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite)
"Rammed! The soviet crew is brought out."
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: luftwaffe.be on 03-11-2012, 22:11:55
very nice :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 03-11-2012, 23:11:54
Hey guys I have a quick question that may be stupid, if you could please help.  So i buy 8mm lebel blanks for my berthier carbine from Atlantic Wall Blanks, but they are out of stock and I have a reenactment on Saturday.

They do have 8mm 'surplus" blanks, but will those work for a lebel firing rifle?  I know lebel is 8x50 mm, does that make a difference? will they just not work at all if I buy these general blanks?  i need to know soon so i can order them, if anyone could please help
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Post by: Korsakov829 on 04-11-2012, 02:11:30
If all else fails, use real bullets.
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Post by: siben on 04-11-2012, 14:11:12

Hey guys I have a quick question that may be stupid, if you could please help.  So i buy 8mm lebel blanks for my berthier carbine from Atlantic Wall Blanks, but they are out of stock and I have a reenactment on Saturday.

They do have 8mm 'surplus" blanks, but will those work for a lebel firing rifle?  I know lebel is 8x50 mm, does that make a difference? will they just not work at all if I buy these general blanks?  i need to know soon so i can order them, if anyone could please help

probably not since 8mm means 7.92x57 mauser normaly. They will never fit your 8x50 lebel.

Here is a picture of these 8mm rounds next to eachother.

(http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/3194/20121104143958.jpg)
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Post by: IrishReloaded on 05-11-2012, 09:11:25
some stuff I bought yesterday for my k98.
2 repro Patronentaschen
15 Ladestreifen (orig)

One question though.
How many clips should fit in one pouch? Im just able to put 1 into.
(http://www.abload.de/img/dscn1837wbusq.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 05-11-2012, 10:11:30
2 clips per pouch making a total of 60 bullets.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: IrishReloaded on 05-11-2012, 15:11:50
stupid fake pouches, will have to cut off the spacer inside the pouch
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Post by: VonMudra on 05-11-2012, 15:11:36
Just stretch them, most brand new repro pouches take some time to fit 2.
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Post by: THeTA0123 on 05-11-2012, 17:11:38
Yeah i had the same repro Ammo pouches. Take some leathre grease aswel. Then stretch it.
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Post by: IrishReloaded on 05-11-2012, 21:11:15
best is that i got both for 25
on zib is one for 17 and they have extreme transfere prices.
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Post by: VonMudra on 06-11-2012, 05:11:45
On my originals, half of them are missing the leather separator, and one of them utterly refuses to take a clips at all, I end up filling it with loose rounds.  I'd take leather grease to it, but I sorta don't want to alter their condition :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 07-11-2012, 17:11:05
Well there is nothing wrong with applying maintance to your things right?

I regularly inspect and apply linseed oil to my rifles to make sure the wood its condition doesnt get worser
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 08-11-2012, 07:11:45
Yes, I do that of course.  I'm just worried about the ammo pouches deteriorating further from trying to stretch them out x3
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: IrishReloaded on 08-11-2012, 15:11:04
does anyone have an original Splittertarn Helmcover ?
Im looking for one.
(No repro tollerated)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 08-11-2012, 17:11:00
You're gonna have to shop around.  Original helmet covers are quite rare....
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Post by: THeTA0123 on 08-11-2012, 17:11:13
i saw one for 250 euro  ;D

Irish dont be beech, get a Repro ;)
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Post by: IrishReloaded on 08-11-2012, 18:11:59
its not for me its for my father as present, he is collecting helmets ect, but I think he forgott about Splittertarn
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Post by: THeTA0123 on 08-11-2012, 18:11:46
ooh thats a diffrent story

good luck  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 11-11-2012, 22:11:08
You gave away the first one. Then I spot a Carcano cavalry carbine with it's sexy on-board bayonet and a normal Carcano carbine.

Really? wow, I would have never thought that anyone could have guessed it is a No3 Mk1* (R)

Good guesses people, seems like i will have to start buying more rare stuff :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 12-11-2012, 17:11:47
Get yourself a M1917 like mine

LONG LIVE THE BASTARD RIFLES!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 14-11-2012, 23:11:33
Anybody have some good places to grab Vietnam stuff?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 01-12-2012, 15:12:28
I got myself a Swedish mauser! my second one. But this one is from the actual army, not civilian. It is completly serial numberd, great condition and on the back of the buttplate, something is scratched in it. it says "Olga 1933 Ing 2"

In wich the following conversation happend on steam

Quote
theta123: It has a name tag in the buttstock
theta123: behind the buttplate
Ciupita: ok
theta123: Olga 1933
theta123: and something else
Ciupita: what else? :P
theta123: i dunno whqt it says, its coverd in cosmoline crap
theta123: trying to remove it
Ciupita: ok
theta123: Another number
theta123: ing 2
theta123: maybe this?
theta123: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6ta_ingenj%C3%B6rregemente
Ciupita: yeah
theta123: well its a 1911 made rifle
theta123: engineers still had long swedish mausers, not the short M38 models
Ciupita: "Battle honours:
Ciupita: none"
theta123: :D
Ciupita: that's what you get when you buy swedish rifle

Gotta love finnish people when they respond to anything Swedish military related  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 01-12-2012, 17:12:13
I was just wondering if any Sweed (or anyone else) could help me get my hands on a Ljungman AG-42b cleaning/maintenance kit
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Korsakov829 on 01-12-2012, 22:12:05
I was just wondering if any Sweed (or anyone else) could help me get my hands on a Ljungman AG-42b cleaning/maintenance kit

Just how far are you willing to go get something like that? You might try calling some Danish, Sweedish or Norwegian collectors. Egypt has their own known as the Hakim rifle, might find a cleaning rod there at the very least.
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Post by: THeTA0123 on 01-12-2012, 22:12:54
 http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=3934684
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 02-12-2012, 12:12:31
I made an account there theta, but it will not let me contact the owner for some reason.


Also, my first automatic rifle ladies and gentleman.

(http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/1569/20121202115232.jpg)

Ofcourse it is nothing that special, just some old Swedish junk made in 1943. It is a AG-42b Ljungman.

(http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/2913/20121202115253.jpg)

The thing has little stamps to be honest. This one had me confused for a few moments though.

(http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/2190/20121202115324.jpg)

And those who think a Garand thumb is bad, you should see this thing when it closes its chamber.
This is me being an idiot with my gf trying to show you guys.

http://youtu.be/GvFLyXAxsfo
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 02-12-2012, 13:12:13
mother of god that thing will cut anything  ;D


Thanks to me, siben got a nice 80 euro discount  ;)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 02-12-2012, 14:12:07
First start of some glorious russian steel!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=296htazmFMc&feature=youtube_gdata
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 02-12-2012, 15:12:53
First start of some glorious russian steel!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=296htazmFMc&feature=youtube_gdata
fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap FAPAPAPAPPA FAPPPAPAPAPAPPAPAPAPPAPAPPAPAPPAPAPPAPAPPAPA fapfapfapfapfaapFAAPPFAAPPPFAAPPP

That was beautifull  ;D ;D

for shooting next year= Swedish mauser Gevar 96
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cy0xt9thh4qp7i5/2012-12-02%2011.58.53.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/eubyktgys13y9xj/2012-12-02%2011.59.17.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/rm5100q9fvpqpny/2012-12-02%2011.59.39.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jjw5dkr009t1ykf/2012-12-02%2012.00.13.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/r0wyq3jqczrdlz2/2012-12-02%2012.01.20.jpg
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 04-12-2012, 09:12:53
Argh  god damn it! Now I have to change the stupid clutch.. It's slipping... I bet my sorry ass its leaking oil into the clutch chamber...  >:( I wouldnt be suprised if i have to open the forsaken gearbox aswell, this bike is a damn money eater....  >:(

Still love the bike though. :D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Korsakov829 on 05-12-2012, 06:12:14
Whats some of the best modern body armor that protects well against AP mines? I'm not really up to date on safety.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Steel_Lion_FIN on 05-12-2012, 08:12:10
Well you usually step on the mine so the impact would come from below, blowing your leg(s) off, and body armor would be rendered useless.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 05-12-2012, 09:12:39
Some NATO forces deployed to Afghanistan use Kevlar "diapers" or "blast boxers" to protect the groin region from blast and fragments coming from IEDs and mines. Besides the idea of protecting ones manhood, the femoral artery going through that area is protected, as well.
(http://www.sierra-313.de/shop/images/product_images/popup_images/557_2.jpg)

If there are mine resistant boots being used, I don´t know, so except for "blast boxers", there´s probably not much protection available, since, as Steel lion said, not many people wear body armour on their legs.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Kalkalash on 05-12-2012, 09:12:02
Normal kevlar body armor protects from small shrapnel (with protecting meaning slowing down the shrapnel so that they don't sink that deep and are less fatal) there is very little protection for the average joe against mines. As steel_lion said, most mines blow up right below your feet, so there's not much to protect you there.

Most pressure triggered mines are blast mines, which don't spread shrapnel but rely on pressure. Short range, but it'll blow you foot off. There isn't really anything that could protect from that, even us pioneers whose job is to clear minefields wear only rubber boots for protecting our feet.

Shrapnel mines, such as pipe mines, are most of the time triggered from a distance by a trip-wire or a detonator and being close to one when it goes off, you'll be dead or severely injured unless you're very lucky.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 12-12-2012, 21:12:26
This is my WIP Swiss motorcycle/driver uniform

(http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/342/schweiss.jpg)

I still need alot of things, of wich i got alot on order.

(http://www.libertytreecollectors.com/productcart/pc/catalog/SwissSchmidtAmmoBando.JPG)

Like the bandoleer. Shoes, Y belt, shovel and bayonet frog
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 12-12-2012, 21:12:59
Good god theta. Where on earth do you even get the idea to choose THAT to dress up in...

Nice though.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: GuinNess on 13-12-2012, 08:12:13
Most important , you need a motorcycle! And when you got it you can do a indina jones motorcycle chase with snoox :D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 13-12-2012, 09:12:48
Most important , you need a motorcycle! And when you got it you can do a indina jones motorcycle chase with snoox :D

I should get my Kradmantel then!  :o *Indiana Jones theme*
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 13-12-2012, 17:12:58
that would be so awesome.

Me riding my motorcycle with a small swiss flag on the rear fender. And then sn00x with a second guy in evil natzi uniform und MG34 in sidecar. Driving trough cities and shit  ;D


My bandoleer has arrived!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 13-12-2012, 17:12:40
Hey guys, one quick question.

I've recently got, as a gift, something, which I can't identify. Dad said it's probably an artillery map case, although it's debable. I've searched the web for german WWII equipment and I can't say I found this.

Now, it's a metal tube, 70cm long and 8,4cm wide, colored green (the same as german canteen), opens up on top and it has a 3 sling holes (or whatev) for a belt, I presume. It came with a leather belt but it's too short to even buckle so it doesn't belong to it, apparently. It has a lid and on the part that is covered by it when you put the lid on it's stamped "cme".

I'll try to put some pictures here later, but in the meantime...does it ring any bells?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 13-12-2012, 17:12:35
Could perhaps be a spare barrel case?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 13-12-2012, 17:12:09
I thought of that, but the barrel case opens like this
(http://www.google.hr/url?source=imglanding&ct=img&q=http://www.jaybe-militaria.co.uk/ekmps/shops/barter/images/mg34-42-spare-barrel-case-%5B2%5D-34-p.jpg&sa=X&ei=tAPKUKCNGcj34QSR-IDYDg&ved=0CAwQ8wc&usg=AFQjCNFpHF5uRfSfuGi_-Jc6Dy2UwpeRVQ)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 13-12-2012, 17:12:15
Pictures my friend, thats all we need  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 13-12-2012, 17:12:36
(http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/6920/img0236jx.jpg)


(http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/3108/img0238ac.jpg)


Finally.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 13-12-2012, 18:12:55
might be a ammo container for a cannon maybe? i know the germans used containers of that size and shape holding 1 round.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 13-12-2012, 18:12:03
Yeah, could be for a 37mm.  Have you tried measuring the diameter?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 13-12-2012, 18:12:27
Yeah, could be for a 37mm.  Have you tried measuring the diameter?

8,4cm

edit: 8,4 is actually 8,1 or 8,0cm on the inside.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Korsakov829 on 13-12-2012, 18:12:46
Thats a spare barrel case for an MG42/34! Very nice.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 13-12-2012, 18:12:34
Thats a spare barrel case for an MG42/34! Very nice.

http://www.rjmilitaria.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=305

Nope
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Musti on 13-12-2012, 21:12:23
Whoa, whoa whoa!
Is this a thing?
http://www.rjmilitaria.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=7&products_id=410
Was it widely used? Can we have it? Cause if it was, I'm starting a massive topic called. "Why Commando Hi Power needs extended mags" Its awesome.

Anyway, about that thingymajig.
You sure its german? Maybe its just someone else's spare barrel case or something?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 13-12-2012, 21:12:14
I can only judge by the color, since it has no other markings...'cept that "cme" stamp.

Even though it's even more green than the german canteen I have, but still it looks german to me. I could be wrong though...

Internet isn't really useful these days, this is the only place I know where I could get an answer.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 13-12-2012, 22:12:26
i dissasembled a K31 bolt






cant put it back together

...............
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 13-12-2012, 22:12:57
Silly theta..


If it was made in wartime Germany then CME means: -Gebr. Wichmann, Zeichengeräte, Vermessung-Instrumente, Berlin NW 7

I somehow doubt that it can be correct..
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 14-12-2012, 00:12:00
It def looks liek the carrying case for a shell, I just don't know which type.  Problem is, most shells have the brass casing bulge out to a wider diameter than the actual shell, so we'd have to find out the diameter of the actual casings.....
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 14-12-2012, 00:12:01
Yes, perhaps the 75mm L/48 shell?

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Yustax on 14-12-2012, 04:12:05
i dissasembled a K31 bolt






cant put it back together

...............

Here's a tutorial for you Theta.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90PzwyjPTjc
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 14-12-2012, 12:12:26
i dissasembled a K31 bolt






cant put it back together

...............

Here's a tutorial for you Theta.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90PzwyjPTjc
found the problem myself  ;D   when at first you fail

do another 50 attempts   ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 14-12-2012, 19:12:33
I am wondering, what do you guys think is a good price for a Steyr m95 bayonet? I see a nice one for sale for 50 euro but am not sure.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 16-12-2012, 12:12:02
Hello guys, I finaly have a bayonet for me Steyr Mannlicher m95.

(http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/9813/20121216122201.jpg)

Also, Can anyone tell me what ammo pouches these are? They don't have any recognizable stamps.
(http://img547.imageshack.us/img547/9540/20121216122241.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 16-12-2012, 18:12:12
*Sick and tired of Dnepr 650 engine allways making a fuzz*

...  >:(


*Buy's a new K750 engine and gearbox*


..... ;D


*Waiting for to arrive*
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 16-12-2012, 18:12:29
What type of engine is that?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 16-12-2012, 20:12:15
Offspring of the BMW r71 engine, so to speak.
100cc more than the old one, so it should give is some more kick to it  :)

(http://www.dnepr-kiev.com/image/cache/data/products/engine-in-gathering/engine05-800x600.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 16-12-2012, 20:12:18
Siben, those look like reproduction WW1 pouches for the Austrian Steyr M95.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 16-12-2012, 21:12:10
Siben, those look like reproduction WW1 pouches for the Austrian Steyr M95.

Thanks for the input.

The only help I could find so far is this:
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Switzerland-WWI-Ammunition-Pouch-/350520314264#ht_1175wt_1159

It is a start to find out what they are.
Not sure they are reproduction though, they look old, the leather had small cracks in the sharp corners and looks as good as my WW2 german ammo pouches.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 16-12-2012, 22:12:07
Yeah, could be those too.  Actually probably IS those swiss pouches :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 16-12-2012, 22:12:14
No those are Not swiss army pouches.

(http://www.libertytreecollectors.com/productcart/pc/catalog/SwissSchmidtAmmoBando.JPG)
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTnlkOzgj-6QO7C6EYZbzW3ILhwFo4XvrFK797W4pSwtAJ-gQGs4aFiq7S9)

Those are Swiss-army pouches for the Schmidt rubin.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 17-12-2012, 14:12:25
Yeah, problem is that what i can find on the net tells me they are not swiss...

post war polish nagant pouches are the best i can find so far that somewhat resembles it
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 22-12-2012, 20:12:26
So it seems this guy that sells these 750 engines only sells them in pairs, well that was "great".. we did the best out of it though!

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/2012-12-22190015_zps705f018c.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/2012-12-22185907_zpsa3e0e7ea.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/2012-12-22185957_zps89c04a7f.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/2012-12-22185945_zps3e83e541.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 22-12-2012, 20:12:14
So beautifull, i envy you! ;D


(Sn00x what is das Steam?)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 22-12-2012, 22:12:45
what is what?

i am calling mudra or someone on this one.. is it todays RAL 1002 (sandgelb) or 7028 (dunkelbgelb) that was used as base coating for vehicles and equipment after 1943?

IIRC its RAL 1002 (sandgelb).. but is it! (the bike is currently coated in 7028)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: flyboy_fx on 23-12-2012, 10:12:55
Should be the dunkelelb.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 23-12-2012, 17:12:07
Dunkelgelb. :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 23-12-2012, 22:12:18
Dunkelgelb. :P

Thanks. :p
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 26-12-2012, 22:12:04
I think I broke my new Italian knife.
Cooky if you know what it is. Theta, shut up.

(http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/8378/fotosebay2569.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Musti on 26-12-2012, 22:12:22
Carcano Bayonet?


EDIT:
Ah, yes, folding Carcano bayonet ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 26-12-2012, 23:12:55
those bayonets often cost more then the rifle  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 27-12-2012, 19:12:47
Meh, its a cool thing to have, I should have been smarter and not buy the rifle that needs the folding bayonet.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Korsakov829 on 27-12-2012, 20:12:51
Anyone have an idea where to get one of those full barrel length scopes for a 1853 Enfield?

Sort of like here...
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3165/3098351671_89caa3b1b1_m.jpg)

I've only managed to find reproductions though.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 27-12-2012, 21:12:25
Repros are all you're gonna get.  Any original will cost you tens of thousands of dollars.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: th_battleaxe on 28-12-2012, 11:12:11
Aha, the rifle that sparked the Sepoy Revolt... Where did you find one?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 05-01-2013, 13:01:17
I never thought i would get myself a german WW2 weapon.

But then i got today myself a K98k  ;D

It's a russian capture 1944 BYF obendorf K98k. Its in a very good condition(arsenal refurbish). Its not serial matched(as with most mausers) and there wassent a cleaning rod. Also the waffenabmt on the reciever(as with arsenal recondition) was hitted with a stamp to remove the swasitka.

Some people bitch about "origenality". But i dont care. This is a WW2 rifle that saw action most likely. And for only 250 euro's including a repro sling.

i first was going for a 350 euro K98k with bayonet(eventually costing 425). This one had a cleaning rod, 1943 built and half serial matched. But it got sold to another guy. But luckily, the seller had a second K98k. And wich is this one=

https://www.dropbox.com/s/pc8b8n7wwvnfttt/2013-01-05%2013.52.55.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/vrjfipwy8e56msm/2013-01-05%2013.53.03.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fi4717ty9y4ldrc/2013-01-05%2013.53.20.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/v8hkrg5erai0xhr/2013-01-05%2013.53.35.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/rvdpehwzae7f51g/2013-01-05%2013.53.46.jpg

I'm very happy with this rifle.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 05-01-2013, 13:01:53
Looks nice, glad you liked it!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Thorondor123 on 05-01-2013, 13:01:56
Sitting in the bathroom photographing a K98k wearing NVA trousers. Seems legit.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 05-01-2013, 15:01:57
Sitting in the bathroom photographing a K98k in NVA trousers. Seems legit.
Bathroom has the most light and it was raining outside. I wear my NVA pants alot when i go to militaria shows.


Also just found out something cool=my K98k has a Belgian made barrel!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 06-01-2013, 01:01:57
(http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/v/566060_436969666359582_2028227873_n.jpg?oh=11bc38b14398f8d1e7f2888dc469532c&oe=50EACB99&__gda__=1357607223_1cdf27bf3dc7ec48d070eeb7d80e6764)

I now own a helmet reproduced in that paint scheme:

(http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/830/054ex.jpg)

(http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/5922/053idc.jpg)

Thank you Alexander and Sons!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 06-01-2013, 13:01:43
I hope that helmet was in bad condition before you did that to it.

Would love to own the German helmets one day.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 06-01-2013, 13:01:32
Go deep in thee pockets mate...i saw some in waver yesterday..............my god :/

Gonna remove the damage EVIL RUSSIANS DID TO MY BELOVED K98.

Gonna buy a sight hood and cleaning rod.  Cause this rifle should have it
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 06-01-2013, 14:01:15
Theta, €550 Gets you a lovely m42 Helmet in good condition...

Also, they cut an extra groove in you K98k butstock..
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 06-01-2013, 14:01:47
im not paying 550 for a goddamn helmet, even if it is german :/

you find them by the plenty here, sounds like fat Price fixing to me.


Same way everybody was selling K98's for 700 euro at belgian military fairs. Untill we had one german saying the prices were to much and he started to sell them for reasonable prices from 250 euro(Russian capture late production, 300(early K98 russian capture and standard K98's from 1944) to 400-500 for earlier K98's untampered



Also what do you mean with?


Also, they cut an extra groove in you K98k butstock..
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 06-01-2013, 14:01:26
Helmets cost a lot theta, I saw a british turtle helmet for sale, 200 euro...

That is the way the WW2 Militaria marked rolls in this country.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 06-01-2013, 20:01:08
alot of price fixing in the militaria world in belgium.
Item X! real germany! VERY RARE
next week another one is on the table

"Batch of X released! the LAST!"

2 weeks another batch is released for the last time



Anyway i have decided to work on my Russian capture K98.

When the K98's got reworked in arsenals in 1946 , there sight hood and cleaning rods were removed and melted for scrap as they were deemed unneccesary. 40 euro for a cleaning rod and 25 euro for a sight hood is just WRONG :/   Thats the prices i am coming across here.   I just bought a high quality, german made reproduction of both. Its a set thats especially designed for RC k98's wich had these parts removed.  25 euro + 7 euro shipping.  Just gotta wait till its back in stock  ;D

I also found that the barrel is a bit badly alligned. If you look trough the sights, you see that the barrel/sights is a bit tilted to the left. Gonna take this to a professional gunsmith who is gonna demount the barrel(Requires special tooling) and put the barrel back properly. Also gonna let him check the headspacing of the bolt, just in case. but it seems this part is okay. The bolt i have is excellent quality despite not being origenal to the rifle.

I have been struck with the K98k fever. I love it. Deutsche engineering baby!

I am gonna sell some old junk to save up for a proper untampered K98. Preferably one from 1941-1943.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Kading on 06-01-2013, 21:01:58
I hope that helmet was in bad condition before you did that to it.

Would love to own the German helmets one day.

It's a reproduction helmet. Real FJ helmets cost WAAAAAAY too much to do that.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 06-01-2013, 23:01:49
What Kading said, of course it's a repro xD  I could never afford an FJ helm anyways, 2000-3000 bucks is a bit out of my price range :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 06-01-2013, 23:01:19
Helmets cost a lot theta, I saw a british turtle helmet for sale, 200 euro...

That is the way the WW2 Militaria marked rolls in this country.

on IMA.com you can buy a turtle helm for like $15, if they ship to Belgium
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 06-01-2013, 23:01:50
Zib militaria ftw!

Cleaning rod 7.5 euro, sight hood ORIGENAL 10 euro!!!!

http://www.zib-militaria.de/epages/61431412.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/61431412/Products/180009

Also gonna get this. Its a high quality reproduction of the K98k bayonet.

An origenal bayonet will be bought when the day comes i buy an untampered K98  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 07-01-2013, 01:01:34
All my Vietnam stuff gets here tomorrow, pretty psyched about it  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Yustax on 07-01-2013, 01:01:38
I just saw theta's link and I saw a demilled Ak47....and I raged. I wish there were easier ways to buy a demill and remill it with some parts, saving a lot of money.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 08-01-2013, 23:01:54
got myself the K98 cleaning kit. Made in the 50's by the same company that made the cleaning kits in WW2. almost exactly the same but 15 euro's compared to 70 FOR A FUCKING ORIGENAL ONE
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 09-01-2013, 02:01:23
Vietnam gear is great, little bit of gunk I need to clean off of the M-56 wg, but otherwise fine.
One of the hooks used is a pain in the ass to get into a socket though
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 09-01-2013, 18:01:37
got myself the K98 cleaning kit. Made in the 50's by the same company that made the cleaning kits in WW2. almost exactly the same but 15 euro's compared to 70 FOR A FUCKING ORIGENAL ONE

IIRC post war cleaning kits have a part less then wartime ones.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 09-01-2013, 20:01:03
got myself the K98 cleaning kit. Made in the 50's by the same company that made the cleaning kits in WW2. almost exactly the same but 15 euro's compared to 70 FOR A FUCKING ORIGENAL ONE

IIRC post war cleaning kits have a part less then wartime ones.
WIch one then?

i have 2 ropes, 2 brushes,1 oiler and a oil brush and tinnen pulltrough
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 10-01-2013, 16:01:28
Tool to open magazine buttplate.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 11-01-2013, 16:01:53
sold a bunch of old stuff and i might get myself a K98k from 1942. Berlin-Lübecker Maschinenfabrik produced(Duv stamped)

Everything is in order, but the bolt is not serial matched. Rifle condition is very good. Gonna be a tough buy tough. He is intrested in one of my Enfields.

If the deal goes okay, i will be a very happy man  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Korsakov829 on 11-01-2013, 16:01:40
My old compound bow finally gave out a month ago, and I could use a new one, preferably a Perso-Parthian traditionally crafted. Anyone have ideas as to where I should go?

Also looking for ideas for arrow heads. One that delivers a lot of force (to the point where it can break boards in half and crack rocks) and at the same time cuts into a target, perhaps leaving the arrow head behind when trying to pull from flesh. Something unusual... almost flat, and perhaps barbed.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 12-01-2013, 18:01:32
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/537338_193523697460041_524874444_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/537250_193541307458280_880437418_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/16651_193523700793374_53007308_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/59913_193523704126707_426391124_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/r90/3877_192994154179662_341775713_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/580725_192994104179667_1865405768_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 12-01-2013, 19:01:07
Any explanation to the foto's?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 12-01-2013, 19:01:26
sn00x's little ride. Its finished
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 12-01-2013, 20:01:57
I wonder how much of a garage queen she is going to be  :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 13-01-2013, 17:01:52
It is absolutely Fully working and i have been driving for the past two days now, but since it dont have its license plates yet, thats risky buisness. so a "garage queen" she is not, obviously you have never had such an ambitious project before  :P it takes time to get the correct parts and tools you know and do the greasy work  ;)

speaking of parts, my mg34 mount should arrive any day now.

and.. lets just say that this is not the time of the year to drive around on a motorcycle.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 13-01-2013, 21:01:45
Looks great Snoox!   But I am not calling you litlagalliosa or whatever the fuck that is.  ;)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sheikyerbouti on 15-01-2013, 02:01:49
It is absolutely Fully working and i have been driving for the past two days now, but since it dont have its license plates yet, thats risky buisness. so a "garage queen" she is not, obviously you have never had such an ambitious project before  :P it takes time to get the correct parts and tools you know and do the greasy work  ;)

speaking of parts, my mg34 mount should arrive any day now.

and.. lets just say that this is not the time of the year to drive around on a motorcycle.

 :Hi rebuilds stuff too, it might not be a hangar queen yet but all older motorcycles come with plenty of surprises. I seem to recall that you bought 2 german engines for it so you will have lots of spares if needed.

 Looks like you spray painted by hand, so if you go for a second coat of the same colour try and sand down some of the the rougher patches and hold the spray can/gun further away from the bike to avoid further over-spray.

 (p.s. do i spy paint on the muffler chrome???,  use brass wool and some krom-glanz and it will come off in an instant)

 p.p.s  I agree with Lainer, its weird when peeps change their name. unless you convert to Islam, it's just strange to me. you shall forever be our Fh2 version of Snookie....   long live Jersey Shore
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Cory the Otter on 15-01-2013, 04:01:52
Things from a trip to a museum in Florida (1st link has a swastika)

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/571/img1409lu.jpg/

(http://imageshack.us/a/img442/5531/img1404ri.jpg)

Note the "Unknown" one. Let's try to fix that, okay sword nerds?


(http://imageshack.us/a/img17/5575/img1411rz.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img812/5052/img1405b.jpg)


Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Korsakov829 on 15-01-2013, 06:01:41
Err, which is the unknown sword? I can't really tell.
Photo isn't of the best quality, have to see a few. Difficult since it can't be handled. And if no one at a museum could identify it I doubt anyone here can but its worth a try.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Mayhemic.MAD on 15-01-2013, 10:01:24
Do a right click on the image and select "open in new tab", then you will see it in full size.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 16-01-2013, 00:01:01
It is absolutely Fully working and i have been driving for the past two days now, but since it dont have its license plates yet, thats risky buisness. so a "garage queen" she is not, obviously you have never had such an ambitious project before  :P it takes time to get the correct parts and tools you know and do the greasy work  ;)

speaking of parts, my mg34 mount should arrive any day now.

and.. lets just say that this is not the time of the year to drive around on a motorcycle.

 :Hi rebuilds stuff too, it might not be a hangar queen yet but all older motorcycles come with plenty of surprises. I seem to recall that you bought 2 german engines for it so you will have lots of spares if needed.

 Looks like you spray painted by hand, so if you go for a second coat of the same colour try and sand down some of the the rougher patches and hold the spray can/gun further away from the bike to avoid further over-spray.

 (p.s. do i spy paint on the muffler chrome???,  use brass wool and some krom-glanz and it will come off in an instant)

 p.p.s  I agree with Lainer, its weird when peeps change their name. unless you convert to Islam, it's just strange to me. you shall forever be our Fh2 version of Snookie....   long live Jersey Shore

No, there is no paint on the mufflers, they are brand new..

I like the paint, ever painted -Real- army vehicles? (i have, and not just one) lets just say they didnt just roll out of the ferrari factory, its shabby, its supposed to be shabby and ugly, i love it.  ;) its not supposed to to win a grand beauty price either.

lets even put it this way! i doubt the german factory workers or Who Ever painted the vehicles in the middle of a freakin war stopped the whole production because of some "over spray"  ::)

is this enough explaining for you?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Kading on 16-01-2013, 06:01:58
Do a right click on the image and select "open in new tab", then you will see it in full size.

In what browser can you do that?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sheikyerbouti on 16-01-2013, 10:01:49
I like the paint, ever painted -Real- army vehicles? (i have, and not just one)

 Sorry but you haven't explained anything to me yet. I guess i take more pride in the restoration work that I do. It was obvious that you painted by hand and the mistakes always show up worse when you get around to a second coat. (in other words, I was only trying to be helpful)

military vehicles that i have painted include Harley Davidson WLC, Ford ambulance, Willys GPW, DKW motorcycle, Vietnam-era recovery vehicle (18 foot snorkel and massive diesel in line engine) but the most fun was the M28 Dragon Wagon, which is literally the most bad ass transport ever made. While limited in my military restorations, I did spend about 6 years rebuilding dozens of vintage cars and hundreds of motorcycles for the European market and IMO, the skills are easily transferrable, unless you want to churn out a dog's breakfast of your work.

As long as you work for free, i can find a ton of stuff for you to work on if they will give you a Canadian work permit. I have friends that run 3 different military museums and a military vehicle collector's association, so I do run into lots of opportunities... I am so driving a T-55 this year and it might be the highlight of my year, especially if i can make it happen around my birthday


 On topic, I liked WarriorCNJ's photo of that blood chit (still got your flag fetish I see). The men who flew over the hump have some cool stories to tell.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 16-01-2013, 11:01:13
okey, here is the difference from what i udnerstand and see.

when people restore Old army vehicles, they tend to get all "omfg most be all suppah prettyyyyh not a scratch YOLO", this is Not the case in active armies, you dont waste time on details.. get the point?  :P

i do not like when people do that, neither will i ever like it. it is not a real representation for an vehicle of war. while i can understand that people want it to look pretty and stuff and scratches ofcourse will produce rust, i do not intend for my bike to just stand there.

You might not agree, but the ww2 enthusiasts over here keep telling me this is one hell of an project, "atleast it looks War!" they keep telling me  :P might not be a real BMW, but it is still one of the better representations. i got this far right? i think i know how to paint my own bike and how i want it to look  :P

now, as i am only 20 you must understand, i dont have the resources to go off and buy a real R12 or R71/75, then one might get a little bit more cautious here and there, but this is a cheap russian ripoff of those bikes, it is built for war, to change something is a simple and cheap thing to do, thus allowing me to recreate a real war image to it, not some museum object that shines "Brand New Dont Touch"  ;D


 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: :| Hi on 16-01-2013, 23:01:45
Woah who are you? Did Sn00x change his name or something?



Anyways, photos of my LRRP/LRP impression to come soon.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 17-01-2013, 23:01:20
Did some fun easy 40minute quick fixes today

Had to get new handles because Ural handles are crap, really.. crap. Go dnepr!

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/2013-01-17161405_zpsc5f269f7.jpg)

Allso the pusher rods got new rubber sealings
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/2013-01-17161345_zpsf268d9c9.jpg)

A new rubber seat was in its place, the old one was trashed as one can clearly see in earlier pics, allso a new rear seat is on its way.

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/2013-01-17123119_zpsae6f840d.jpg)

Finally got the sidecar light welded by a friend of mine. ( i love this weld, it looks old and shabby AND it fits the rest on the welds on the bike)

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/2013-01-17151407_zps604465ef.jpg)

And.. Ah the grand finale of today, the new gas tank arrived! Oh joy!

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/2013-01-17223449.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/2013-01-17223432.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 22-01-2013, 16:01:33
Self explaining

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/2013-01-22163903.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/2013-01-22163854.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/2013-01-22163915.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 22-01-2013, 18:01:13
READY for zombie apocalypse!!!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: xShadow on 22-01-2013, 22:01:12
Interesting, I too have a german KAR98k bayonet like yours. I also have a badly damaged helmet. It's just junk, I know, but for me it's something. My brother found the helmet quite a few years back in a forest in Latgale, Latvia near a farm in Vabole. The bayonet was found in the same forest a few years later. I truly have no idea what happened to the owners of the items or what battle they participated in, maybe those items were lost. (Although I doubt it, because the helmet has quite a hole in the upper part.)

Haven't found anything spectacular yet, but maybe there are some "hidden gems" that I don't know of yet.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 27-01-2013, 17:01:35
Its not much, but we were having some fun on a snowwy parkinglot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjY9Djn4NGE
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 27-01-2013, 17:01:17
Interesting, I too have a german KAR98k bayonet like yours. I also have a badly damaged helmet. It's just junk, I know, but for me it's something. My brother found the helmet quite a few years back in a forest in Latgale, Latvia near a farm in Vabole. The bayonet was found in the same forest a few years later. I truly have no idea what happened to the owners of the items or what battle they participated in, maybe those items were lost. (Although I doubt it, because the helmet has quite a hole in the upper part.)

Haven't found anything spectacular yet, but maybe there are some "hidden gems" that I don't know of yet.

Post pics of the helmet.  If it's not too bad, you can get it restored here: http://www.alexanderandsonsrestorations.com/Home/default.html
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: luftwaffe.be on 27-01-2013, 23:01:11
Interesting, I too have a german KAR98k bayonet like yours. I also have a badly damaged helmet. It's just junk, I know, but for me it's something. My brother found the helmet quite a few years back in a forest in Latgale, Latvia near a farm in Vabole. The bayonet was found in the same forest a few years later. I truly have no idea what happened to the owners of the items or what battle they participated in, maybe those items were lost. (Although I doubt it, because the helmet has quite a hole in the upper part.)

Haven't found anything spectacular yet, but maybe there are some "hidden gems" that I don't know of yet.

Post pics of the helmet.  If it's not too bad, you can get it restored here: http://www.alexanderandsonsrestorations.com/Home/default.html
I assume it's a bottom find. You can forget it Vonmudra, it will be completely rotten. It's simply not worth restoring. The only good Helmets you'll find from bottom finds are those from the ditches they dumped these

(http://www.ww2incolor.com/d/153160-4/ZZhelmetpile2)

There are some who occupy themselves with locating these ditches, and they bring out nice trophies, but ofcourse they won't share their secrets ;)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 02-02-2013, 11:02:41
Sold some rifles

aquired myself a new
pictures coming soon
its epic

Hint=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr8-E8may2Y
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Turkish007 on 02-02-2013, 12:02:28
Sold some rifles

aquired myself a new
pictures coming soon
its epic

Hint=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr8-E8may2Y

Enfield Jungle Carbine?  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 03-02-2013, 02:02:22
probably another Mosin
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: ksl94 on 14-02-2013, 14:02:17
First of all, congrats for finishing your beautiful BMW, Snoox! It's really a beauty  ;) .
Also, does anyone by chance know where I can find a pair of shoulder patches of the British 70th DIV?
The insignia should look like this one: http://chindits.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/70th-div-cloth-badge.jpg
I'd prefer repros, but not a single supplier that I know has them. In case of a worst case scenario, I'd have to get them custom made  :-\ .
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 27-02-2013, 16:02:21
Just a quick question about militaria, but German soldiers could wear say an M40 tunic and m43 trousers and that would be ok, right?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 27-02-2013, 18:02:40
Absolutely.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 27-02-2013, 18:02:32
I imagine it like my workplace, everybody gets a full uniform at work when you start, all nice and shiny. After a few months you gain/loose some weight or damage a part of your uniform during work. You get a replacement as a result, but they only replace the broken things, not the whole uniform. Our uniforms have different manufacturers depending on who got the contract for the year thus the result is that nobody, with the exception of the newcomers have a nice and up to date uniform. Almost everybody is running around in miss matched uniform where old and new, clean and dirty are mixed.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Turkish007 on 27-02-2013, 19:02:28
Check out what I found in the attic today:
(http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/3041/adszsgb.jpg)

Ottoman War Medal. Looks like it was earned by my great-grandfather, Suleiman Sudi Sofuoglu, who joined the Gallipoli battle in 1915.  8) I might also have a Liakat Medal somewhere in the safe in the bank, which was earned by the same man in the Independence War...
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 27-02-2013, 19:02:03
I imagine it like my workplace, everybody gets a full uniform at work when you start, all nice and shiny. After a few months you gain/loose some weight or damage a part of your uniform during work. You get a replacement as a result, but they only replace the broken things, not the whole uniform. Our uniforms have different manufacturers depending on who got the contract for the year thus the result is that nobody, with the exception of the newcomers have a nice and up to date uniform. Almost everybody is running around in miss matched uniform where old and new, clean and dirty are mixed.
Absolutely.
Hooray!  I have an m40 tunic and was planning on getting the m43 trousers.  And I can wear those with a belt or suspenders, right?

Just need to find a pair, everywhere I've looked is currently  out of stock or too big.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 27-02-2013, 22:02:51
Yep, though suspenders will be more more comfortable.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 27-02-2013, 22:02:53
Sweet, thanks VM and Siben.  Comfort must be second to cost for now, haha! 
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Kading on 28-02-2013, 08:02:47
Sweet, thanks VM and Siben.  Comfort must be second to cost for now, haha!
Then you will be happy to know that you can use just about any belt you want. Even civilian leather belts will do. German belt issue was sketchy at best.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 01-03-2013, 16:03:39
Tommorow might be the final weapon fair in waver. I am aiming for a P14, finnish mosin or swedish M38

In a few hours im off to the range to Fire ZHE TOMMY gun M1928A1 :D   

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 01-03-2013, 18:03:24
Sweet, thanks VM and Siben.  Comfort must be second to cost for now, haha!
Then you will be happy to know that you can use just about any belt you want. Even civilian leather belts will do. German belt issue was sketchy at best.
In a similar vein, what's up with these herring bone twill uniforms I'm seeing?  A lot of suppliers have a seperate HBT uniforms set.  I don't get it what exactly it is for.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Kading on 02-03-2013, 01:03:04
HBT are summer uniforms in effect. They are made of cotton rather than wool. SS had a more standardized HBD uniform system, especially once the Dot 44 ("Erbsenmuster") uniforms started getting issued. The Heer was mostly limited to modified "reed green" HBT uniforms that, as I understand, were designed for non combat drill practice. Wool was the most common. Just as well: if you have to live in the woods getting rained on, better to have clothes that retain over 80% of their insulatory (not a real word but should be) qualities when completely soaked with water rather than 15% for cotton.

Panzer crews were a different story. They were initially issued HBT versions of their black panzer clothes to wear OVER the wools to provide camo (reed green blends in much better than jet black). The crews, being clever chaps, ended up wearing just the HBT stuff when it was hot.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 03-03-2013, 17:03:02
Wilst i see your paint with the rain and all, i cant really agree. I'd rather have a uniform that gets dry rather quick than a wool one that gets really heavy and stays wet for a long time. But ofcourse i see you'r point. :)

Allso for the Bike project, i have now started sanding it down to get some panzergrau paint on it, allso the hideous dashboard have been replaced with a good old bmw copy headlight.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Kading on 03-03-2013, 18:03:26
Wilst i see your paint with the rain and all, i cant really agree. I'd rather have a uniform that gets dry rather quick than a wool one that gets really heavy and stays wet for a long time. But ofcourse i see you'r point. :)

Allso for the Bike project, i have now started sanding it down to get some panzergrau paint on it, allso the hideous dashboard have been replaced with a good old bmw copy headlight.

See, if you are in the woods and it is raining, there is no such thing as getting dry. Think of how you normally dry off when you get wet: you go inside and change clothes. Can't do that on a long patrol or if you are standing guard outside. This becomes less of a problem once tents and raincoats that were actually waterproof came along.
In a tropical setting, however, you want cotton uniforms due to the heat. The wool just serves to keep hypothermia away.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 03-03-2013, 20:03:34
Still cant say i agree, saying we are not talking about the winter here.
 for starters;
1. i was an outside guard for 7 months in the army (north norway = damn cold and shifty shit weather)
2. we only use cotton uniforms
3. we use allmost the same kind of tent as the germans did back then as ponchos as they did (wich gets quite heavy when its wet btw)
4. you dont dress up thick and wooly, you dress light but more to keep hypothermia away. (cotton wins, allthough cotton still is a textile that gets cold when wet)
5. i live in the woods with shitty norwegian weather
6. i have done allot of them patrols and guards in shitstorms! (as stated)

I still prefer the 44dot jacket and trousers or any other HBT for the reasons above, and your not gonne freeze if you are in motion, as you most likely are most of the time when you'r in the army. Even back then. Ofcourse, if you dont like to be in motion like the smart people, you are gonna freeze.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Kading on 03-03-2013, 20:03:31
Still cant say i agree, saying we are not talking about the winter here.
 for starters;
1. i was an outside guard for 7 months in the army (north norway = damn cold and shifty shit weather)
2. we only use cotton uniforms
3. we use allmost the same kind of tent as the germans did back then as ponchos as they did (wich gets quite heavy when its wet btw)
4. you dont dress up thick and wooly, you dress light but more to keep hypothermia away. (cotton wins, allthough cotton still is a textile that gets cold when wet)
5. i live in the woods with shitty norwegian weather
6. i have done allot of them patrols and guards in shitstorms! (as stated)

I still prefer the 44dot jacket and trousers or any other HBT for the reasons above, and your not gonne freeze if you are in motion, as you most likely are most of the time when you'r in the army. Even back then. Ofcourse, if you dont like to be in motion like the smart people, you are gonna freeze.

And as I mentioned: a lot of problems with cotton uniforms drying out were solved by decent raincoats. I don't know all that much about your military's current equipment, but I would assume and hope that you have some sort of waterproof pancho. Obviously there is a reason that most modern combat uniforms are cotton, but my point was that this was much less practical during WW2 and before.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 03-03-2013, 22:03:37
How and why? I dont see how clothing nor the weather have changed that much in europe.
Even the old veterans here say today they Hated the wool uniforms (norway used ex- german and american stuffs up to as late as 1992), they where dreadfull i remember them telling me. Mostly because of the weight and the fact that it could take days before it dried. during summer that is. it is a fact that it is better to freeze a little, than be constant wet.

 ofcourse i would run for the wool the second it gets colder outside.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Kading on 04-03-2013, 00:03:31
How and why? I dont see how clothing nor the weather have changed that much in europe.
Even the old veterans here say today they Hated the wool uniforms (norway used ex- german and american stuffs up to as late as 1992), they where dreadfull i remember them telling me. Mostly because of the weight and the fact that it could take days before it dried. during summer that is. it is a fact that it is better to freeze a little, than be constant wet.

 ofcourse i would run for the wool the second it gets colder outside.

The weather hasn't changed, I never said that. Before completely rubber rain gear was invented, the closest thing you could get was treated canvas. Treated and even rubberized canvas is only waterproof for a certain amount of time, eventually the water soaks through. I am not arguing that they are ideal for modern situations, where, as I have said before, you will find some sort of rain gear to keep you somewhat dry.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 04-03-2013, 10:03:41
the norwegian army just went away from the raincoats som years ago (for some retarded reason and a "soldier 2000" project), now we only have treated field jacket and trousers, wch doesnt stay that way for long.. so yeah.. same shit different story. :P we even still use another field jacket from the 50's, isnt that insane?

point is, i have been wet in these situations with the most shitty gear an army can develope, and i still cant say the wool is better. imho its more con's than pro's using wool in the summer, and it gets dangerously hot if you are actually running around and doing hard labour.

try this kading the upcoming summer, put on your wool and walk a 30-40 km march with a full backpack and dig a trench in your backyard, then you'd wish you used your hbt (it sucks enough with tropic edition of our uniforms)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Kading on 04-03-2013, 16:03:01
the norwegian army just went away from the raincoats som years ago (for some retarded reason and a "soldier 2000" project), now we only have treated field jacket and trousers, wch doesnt stay that way for long.. so yeah.. same shit different story. :P we even still use another field jacket from the 50's, isnt that insane?

point is, i have been wet in these situations with the most shitty gear an army can develope, and i still cant say the wool is better. imho its more con's than pro's using wool in the summer, and it gets dangerously hot if you are actually running around and doing hard labour.

try this kading the upcoming summer, put on your wool and walk a 30-40 km march with a full backpack and dig a trench in your backyard, then you'd wish you used your hbt (it sucks enough with tropic edition of our uniforms)

Fine, whatever, you are right, I am a moron. I don't even care anymore, just sick of this stupid argument where you assume I have no idea what I'm talking about.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 04-03-2013, 17:03:18
Selling 2 of my carcano's, my yugoslavian mauser and some old crap.....so i can aquire myself a M1903A3 Smith Corona made Springfield rifle in excellent condition with the C stock.


1200 euros tough.

Lets hope the guy who sells it still has it with them in a few weeks
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 04-03-2013, 18:03:16
the norwegian army just went away from the raincoats som years ago (for some retarded reason and a "soldier 2000" project), now we only have treated field jacket and trousers, wch doesnt stay that way for long.. so yeah.. same shit different story. :P we even still use another field jacket from the 50's, isnt that insane?

point is, i have been wet in these situations with the most shitty gear an army can develope, and i still cant say the wool is better. imho its more con's than pro's using wool in the summer, and it gets dangerously hot if you are actually running around and doing hard labour.

try this kading the upcoming summer, put on your wool and walk a 30-40 km march with a full backpack and dig a trench in your backyard, then you'd wish you used your hbt (it sucks enough with tropic edition of our uniforms)

Fine, whatever, you are right, I am a moron. I don't even care anymore, just sick of this stupid argument where you assume I have no idea what I'm talking about.

Funny, i had that feeling about you'r arguments.
And it was absolutely not ment that way, if i have insulted you then i am sorry.
And i say again! -> I see you'r point, and its a most valid point. <- i just dont agree.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Kading on 05-03-2013, 01:03:07
I suppose I should explain my point of view better: I believe the toughness of the equipment is more important than comfort. An example would be my preference for WW2 ammo boots over modern hiking boots. I am a reasonably tough guy, and I have found that I can adapt to a bit of discomfort by just getting used to it. We reenactors are somewhat masochistic, you see.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 05-03-2013, 21:03:40
I know exactly what you mean, when i stopped doing WSS impressions and went over to HEER, i only had/have wool (exept when i use smock with only the service shirt under). It gets quite hot indeed, and i absolutly agree with the boots.. clothing todays just doesnt have the toughness of the old..
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: ksl94 on 05-03-2013, 22:03:11
I remember reading somewhere that Commonwealth soldiers in Normandy partially wore KD in case the wool BD got too warm for them, however that yet has to be proven, for there are no photos of such uniforms in that theatre that I know of. That statement also seems doubtful for another reason: As far as I know, no KD uniforms where oficially issued in Europe, because it could get cold at night or when a bad weather front moves in. I saw many photos of soldiers simply removing there clothing partially, like taking of the jacket and the shirt worn underneath when engaging in very physically demanding tasks like building trenches.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 05-03-2013, 22:03:38
A little update on Helga. (Yes she runs completly fine now, but obviously you have to take most apart to paint her)

please mind that the bright color is because of the wet paint, i was just in the garage and it is now darker.(there is allso allot more paint on it)

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/sykkel1.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/sykkel2.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/sykkel3.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: ksl94 on 05-03-2013, 22:03:45
Congratulations, mate! It looks great. I can't wait to see it finished  8) .
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 06-03-2013, 23:03:19
Getting there, the handlebar swith had many "pretty" colors, so tried to make it look oldstyle. sorry for the fact that it is modern Dnepr switch.

Its allso a "new" K750 handlebar with its original handles to make it look more old.

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/2013-03-06145752.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/2013-03-06182243.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/2013-03-06182254.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/2013-03-06182309.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/2013-03-06231901.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/2013-03-06231934.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 07-03-2013, 00:03:51
I remember reading somewhere that Commonwealth soldiers in Normandy partially wore KD in case the wool BD got too warm for them, however that yet has to be proven, for there are no photos of such uniforms in that theatre that I know of. That statement also seems doubtful for another reason: As far as I know, no KD uniforms where oficially issued in Europe, because it could get cold at night or when a bad weather front moves in. I saw many photos of soldiers simply removing there clothing partially, like taking of the jacket and the shirt worn underneath when engaging in very physically demanding tasks like building trenches.

What I know they did wear was the denim P37 uniform.  Technically an over-uniform, it WAS also used as a summer uniform in Normandy:

(http://d8080729.u23.c6.ixwebhosting.com/images/my%20pictures/orig%20denim.jpg)

Polish 10th Dragoons guy wearing one :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Korsakov829 on 11-03-2013, 16:03:22
Lots of photos coming from North Korea as propaganda. Heres something that caught my eye.

http://lenta.ru/news/2013/03/11/kalashnikov/

I don't know what it is... some monstrosity put together with spare parts?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Biiviz on 11-03-2013, 17:03:58
Lots of photos coming from North Korea as propaganda. Heres something that caught my eye.

http://lenta.ru/news/2013/03/11/kalashnikov/

I don't know what it is... some monstrosity put together with spare parts?

AK-74 with folding stock and tubular extremely high-capacity magazine (similar to that of a PP-19 Bizon), as far as I can tell. Used for hosing down crowds perhaps?


Made this to illustrate it better:

(http://i.imgur.com/6CTbGEs.png)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: |7th|Nighthawk on 11-03-2013, 18:03:49
Looks like a PP19: Horrible.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Biiviz on 11-03-2013, 19:03:21
Way larger than a PP-19.

(http://cdn.lenta.ru/images/0000/0298/000002986162/pic_1362992918.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: |7th|Nighthawk on 11-03-2013, 19:03:50
I did not mean that it is a PP19, it just has a resemblance.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Musti on 11-03-2013, 19:03:18
Helical magazine for AK 74? now that's interesting.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: MaJ.P.Bouras on 11-03-2013, 20:03:46
I really want to see someone trying to aim that... Must be heavy as bricks.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Biiviz on 11-03-2013, 20:03:42
I really want to see someone trying to aim that... Must be heavy as bricks.

Don't need to aim when you're standing in an unarmed crowd starting a massacre.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Kading on 12-03-2013, 02:03:29
I really want to see someone trying to aim that... Must be heavy as bricks.

Don't need to aim when you're standing in an unarmed crowd starting a massacre.

You actually do. Not to be a sociopath or anything, but an AK on full auto requires quite a bit of aiming even if you are firing into a crowd. Muzzle climb could easily cause the better part of your magazine to pass harmlessly over the crowd's heads.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Oddball on 12-03-2013, 03:03:14
I wonder how dependable they are... looks as if they'd jam like crazy...  ::)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Biiviz on 12-03-2013, 11:03:06
I really want to see someone trying to aim that... Must be heavy as bricks.

Don't need to aim when you're standing in an unarmed crowd starting a massacre.

You actually do. Not to be a sociopath or anything, but an AK on full auto requires quite a bit of aiming even if you are firing into a crowd. Muzzle climb could easily cause the better part of your magazine to pass harmlessly over the crowd's heads.

Consider the weight of that tube mag. 100 rounds of 7.62 weigh a lot, and the mag extends almost as far as the barrel itself. The muzzle climb would be negligible. Until you've spent most of the rounds anyway.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Kading on 12-03-2013, 18:03:29
I actually really don't want to get into a discussion regarding how easy it is or isn't to massacre a crowd of people. So I'll just leave it alone.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 12-03-2013, 18:03:01
Full auto AK is heavily overrated  ::)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Biiviz on 12-03-2013, 18:03:11
Full auto AK is heavily overrated  ::)

When has anyone rated full auto AK fire highly?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 12-03-2013, 18:03:00
Full auto AK is heavily overrated  ::)

When has anyone rated full auto AK fire highly?
"The AK is very controllable on full auto!"
Said no man ever.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Musti on 12-03-2013, 19:03:44
Depends on the AK :D, and what you consider "accurate"
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 12-03-2013, 20:03:42
I wonder how dependable they are... looks as if they'd jam like crazy...  ::)

Made by Koreans, I don't think i need to explain more. Ever played starcraft against them?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 13-03-2013, 01:03:40
And instead of another ridiciolous discussion on accuracy!

Take a look at Helga now!

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/2013-03-12235812.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/2013-03-12235908.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/2013-03-12235916.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/2013-03-12235926.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/2013-03-12235946.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/2013-03-12235954.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/2013-03-13000012.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Musti on 13-03-2013, 01:03:37
Wunderbar! awesome rear tire :D. How about some vid of her in motion?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 13-03-2013, 11:03:26
Gonna get the same tires all over, but you know how the moneypurse says no at times.


Here. It runs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Otw0nRC7N9c&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 24-03-2013, 19:03:37
Preparing to register my first 3 rifles. 3 Mauser rifles to be exact. But alot of diffrences between them.

(http://imageshack.us/a/img6/7711/20130324190911.jpg)
Above we have my M/96 Swedish mauser (Gevär 96). Fully serial matched, made in 1915. Rare Husqavarna Stock. The rifle seems not to be issued to the troops as it does not have a cleaning rod nor a stock disk. upon checking the barrel, it seems this rifle has not or barely been fired.
The Swedish mauser is based on the Model 93 mauser(often called the spanish mauser) but the swedish altered the design and it is commently referred to as the Model 96 swedish mauser.
The swedes builded this under license.

in the middle my Mauser K98k. Built by Mauser Obendorf in 1944. This is a russian capture with a Belgian FN Herstal barrel. Otherwise this rifle seems to match minus the Rear sights wich are off an early war K98k. This rifle was, however, not electropenciled. Only the bolt lug and the mosin nagant rifle sling slot give away that this is a russian capture. The barrel is in excellent condition.
The K98k is derived from the Model 98 mauser action. I will explain below

And the last rifle is my M1917 Enfield. Made in 1918 by remington. Very good condition. The barrel has some wear but not all that much. This rifle was Not refurbished however between the wars. Nor did it recieved a new barrel in WW2 as most M1917 Rifles did. This greatly adds to the historical value. But since i am taking this baby to the range, this is a bit of a dissapointment to me (As in WW2 many M1917 Enfield rifles recieved newly manufactured High Standard 6 Groove barrels wich were extremely accurate (Even more accurate then the WW1 barrels!)
The M1917 is derived from the P14 wich is in turn derived from the P13. After the boer wars the British wanted a mauser action rifle because there SMLE's were outranged by the Model 1895 7x57mm 'chilene" mausers by the boers. Back then it was tought that in future war range would be important. So the Brits copied the Mauser action and magazine system (without permission from Mauser) and designed the .276 enfield round. This round was to recoil heavy, muzzle flash intense and overheated the barrel. Suddently WW1 erupted and the brits decided to chamber it in the .303 round and produce it in the US(so that Vickers could focus on machinegun production)
Mauser decided to sue the US and UK just before the war not for the copying the bolt(wich is not a full copy), but for copying the Magazine! (wich IS a full copy)
Something that was settled with 20 000 pounds

(http://imageshack.us/a/img255/4097/20130324191105.jpg)

Here you can see the bolts. Left Swedish Model 96 bolt, middle the german model 98 bolt, and right the mauser/enfield hybrid bolt of the M1917. The biggest diffrences being the end of the bolt, the 96 and M1917 bolt being cock on closing, not opening. And the Model 98 having a third locking lug (Between the bolt handle and the Guide rib)


(http://imageshack.us/a/img834/2116/20130324191222.jpg)

So much cartidges were chambered in a mauser action. The following above being
Left:6.5x55mm Swedish (One of the best rifle cartidges designed IMO)
Middle: 8x57mm IS (The heavy hitting German firepower of WW1 and 2!)
bottom: .30-06 Springfield (Or 7.62x63mm) (The long range whispering death!)
(The above are all Deco rounds. They are made from Pvri partisan rounds. No authenthic Cartidge was harmed in the making of these photo"s!)


And something little extra=

(http://imageshack.us/a/img15/9290/20130324191533.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img831/2088/20130324191545.jpg)

LOOK at the german superiority! A rifle that can stand on its OWN!!!!!!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: CosmonautVince on 26-03-2013, 10:03:16
On other note, here's the only pics we got from the Fort Mac public show reenactment.  We went out with our 2nd Jager impression, complete with bike, panzerfaust, schreck, and a suomi.   Twas very, very fun :D

(http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/2728/l1f7f90f1aac84b888094f4.jpg)

(http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/6171/l233b6e3b9c8e4b868ba0fd.jpg)

(http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/1093/ld910b890eecf4776b8e38a.jpg)

Mudra... is the soldier on the bike named christian? if so, small world hehe. i went to school with him. i actually was going to participate in fort mac but i hadnt gotten my equipment together soon enough. nice to see pics from something you missed on though :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: |7th|Nighthawk on 26-03-2013, 10:03:34
@TheTAO123: I may seem like a heretic on this one. The AR-15 can stand on it's own too :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 26-03-2013, 17:03:29
Why, yes, yes he is :O  Small world huh xD
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 26-03-2013, 21:03:33
I am simply pissed off

some gunshop nearby took a defenseless M27 Finnish mosin nagant

AND DRILLED HOLES in the reciever to mount a FUGLY picatinny rail and Motherfucking ACOG scope on it..
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: ksl94 on 26-03-2013, 22:03:19
Those bastards did what ?! I mean, what's the bloody point in doing that? If you want to have a M1913 rail and an ACOG/M68 Aimpoint better buy an AR-15  :P .
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 26-03-2013, 22:03:44
he also thinks M24/47/52 and M48 mausers, aswel as mosin nagants, have no historical value anymore and thus justifies his Raping of these guns...
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: ksl94 on 26-03-2013, 22:03:35
No historical value-that lad must have a very strange sense of humour. To me, even an AK-47 or an AR-15 (if MIL-SPEC) has historical value. Quite alot of it even.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 26-03-2013, 22:03:51
Even a G3, FAL/many cold war era rifles have historical value

If they are Milspec rifles=LEAVE THEM in there original condition


If you wanna customize shit, buy a civilian rifle
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: ksl94 on 26-03-2013, 22:03:59
I totally agree on that with you. By the way, this is the reason why I never bought a single civvie firearm in my entire lifetime  :P .
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 26-03-2013, 22:03:11
Everybody at the 400 meter range has scoped rifles. I am the only one out there with a non customized military bolt action rifle. Having a scope is nice. But after 30 rounds on a origenal scoped FN FAL , i switched to iron sights for the remainding 70 rounds. It was much more satisfiying!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: ksl94 on 26-03-2013, 22:03:25
It's the same thing here. I bought an M4A1 carbine this summer and, well, it only came with a leaf sight because it is in 99% of all cases usually fitted with either an ACOG or a holographic sight. One day I stumbled across an optics fanboy with an AR-15A2 fitted with a Schmidt and Bender scope. The end of the story was that I scored pretty much just as well as he did at 300 yards  :D . When I have about 1500$ of funding that I manage not to spend on my British WWII. collection, I shall buy an ACOG, too. With such a rifle, you just got to have one  ;D .

But not on a WWII. service rifle.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: CosmonautVince on 27-03-2013, 00:03:20
Why, yes, yes he is :O  Small world huh xD
Haha! I knew that was him! He's just missing his greatcoat and jack boots. He's who got me interested in re-enacting. do you guys still re-enact?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 27-03-2013, 22:03:08
It's the same thing here. I bought an M4A1 carbine this summer and, well, it only came with a leaf sight because it is in 99% of all cases usually fitted with either an ACOG or a holographic sight. One day I stumbled across an optics fanboy with an AR-15A2 fitted with a Schmidt and Bender scope. The end of the story was that I scored pretty much just as well as he did at 300 yards  :D . When I have about 1500$ of funding that I manage not to spend on my British WWII. collection, I shall buy an ACOG, too. With such a rifle, you just got to have one  ;D .

But not on a WWII. service rifle.
There is a company however who makes sight mount for several bolt action rifles, like the mauser, K31 and SMLE. Basicly you remove the rear sight (just removing a screw) and then place it in there. Then you use straps to secure the scope mount and you can then attach any scope you want. Its a neat trick and you do not damage anything to the rifle.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 28-03-2013, 10:03:11
It's the same thing here. I bought an M4A1 carbine this summer and, well, it only came with a leaf sight because it is in 99% of all cases usually fitted with either an ACOG or a holographic sight. One day I stumbled across an optics fanboy with an AR-15A2 fitted with a Schmidt and Bender scope. The end of the story was that I scored pretty much just as well as he did at 300 yards  :D . When I have about 1500$ of funding that I manage not to spend on my British WWII. collection, I shall buy an ACOG, too. With such a rifle, you just got to have one  ;D .

But not on a WWII. service rifle.
There is a company however who makes sight mount for several bolt action rifles, like the mauser, K31 and SMLE. Basicly you remove the rear sight (just removing a screw) and then place it in there. Then you use straps to secure the scope mount and you can then attach any scope you want. Its a neat trick and you do not damage anything to the rifle.

Can you find someone who sells the sliderail for the STG44 ZF ?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: ksl94 on 28-03-2013, 11:03:53
Well, I found something that may be in your interest: http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?280949-StG44-22lr-scope-mount
I hope I could help  ;) !
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 30-03-2013, 15:03:00
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGFPbXqBPOA

Dat Swedish mauser! <3
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: TuscanGangster on 01-04-2013, 23:04:03
Could anyone here tell me if German helmets wore decals on only one side?  ;)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: ksl94 on 01-04-2013, 23:04:11
Actually, the decals consisted of a set of two: One was the the black/white/red shield or a swastika on a red background in a white circle for the SS and the other indicated the branch of service. Usually it was the Reichsadler for the Army and the Siegesrunen on a black background for the SS, and so forth. Here's a picture: http://www.treasurebunker.com/acatalog/57.jpg
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 01-04-2013, 23:04:27
Nope, on both but only until 1942 or so, when they gave up on the decals.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: ksl94 on 02-04-2013, 11:04:00
Actually, the soldiers were instructed to remove all decals from their helmets in 1944, if I recall correct.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 02-04-2013, 20:04:28
install a K98k sight hood on your own they said

its not that difficult they said
...
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 02-04-2013, 22:04:25
You need a wooden block, a hammer and a pince, hehe, easy as pie :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 03-04-2013, 00:04:40
eventually i got it done!

I used a outwards going plier (We call them clipstang in belgium

No damage to the sight. Its an origenal one and i only payed 10 euros for it. Now i need to get myself an affordable cleaning rod to complete my K98
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 03-04-2013, 03:04:01
Actually, the soldiers were instructed to remove all decals from their helmets in 1944, if I recall correct.

1942.  They stopped with the national flag decal officially in 1941, then removed the eagle around 1942ish as I recall, with the introduction of the M42 helmet.  But you still see a mixture of everything through to war's end due to being reused or factories just not caring.  Indeed, you can find M40 helmets being worn by the Finns in 1944 with german eagles and swastikas on them.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 04-04-2013, 17:04:45
(http://cdn1.spiegel.de/images/image-478060-breitwandaufmacher-tnak.jpg)

Is there something up with that dude's rifle?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: th_battleaxe on 04-04-2013, 18:04:30
No, I would consider it legit for the producers to use a Gewehr 33/40 as a K98k stand-in. The original was Czech-made but used in rather large quantities by the Germans.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Kading on 05-04-2013, 01:04:07
There is INDEED something wrong with it, at least for that setting. It is a post war Yugoslavian Mauser. You can tell because the wood on top extends past the rear sight (that big hump on top). It is actually BETTER than the German wartime K98 because you don't have to worry about burning your hand when holding it at the balance point.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 05-04-2013, 18:04:50
You can easily spot that this is a Yugoslavian M48b mauser rifle because of the "half bent" bolt. It is unique to the M48 yugo mauser rifle

There is INDEED something wrong with it, at least for that setting. It is a post war Yugoslavian Mauser. You can tell because the wood on top extends past the rear sight (that big hump on top). It is actually BETTER than the German wartime K98 because you don't have to worry about burning your hand when holding it at the balance point.
This is indeed true. It was made also on the same machines as the Wartime K98'ks(Sauer&Sohn) and the yugoslavians had a Very-high quality standard.  Each rifle was also stored in very high quality cosmoline and inspected every year. Every 5 years the cosmoline grease was completly removed and re-applied.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: th_battleaxe on 08-04-2013, 09:04:07
Soooo...

I went to Waver this saturday in search of a map case where my father's tablet could fit in. Firstly, there weren't a whole lot of map cases to begin with. Secondly, the one that could have worked costs 900 euro.

We went home with a wreathed red star for my ushanka.

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 08-04-2013, 19:04:24
Soooo...

I went to Waver this saturday in search of a map case where my father's tablet could fit in. Firstly, there weren't a whole lot of map cases to begin with. Secondly, the one that could have worked costs 900 euro.

We went home with a wreathed red star for my ushanka.
Dude i was there aswel. I go to waver every month :S

Check your PM :)

ALSO
As i was also in Waver militaria. I set my goal for one thing=Completing my swedish mauser M/96 collection by getting the short rifles.

The M96-38 conversion (Long rifle converted to short rifle) and M38 short rifle (New made in Husqavarna, from 1941-1945) have been on the list a long time. But i finnaly got my hands on a M96-38. I went super-early and i grasped the rifle faster then a Swede finishes his smorgasbord

I was a bit dissapointed because i couldnt find a M38.
But then i spotted a guy selling nothing but swedish mauser stuff. When i told him i bought a M96-38 and was still looking for a M38, he said he was SELLING ONE!!!! Expensive however. 350 euros.
Yesterday i saw the rifle and it got my approval :). The typical early husqavarna blueing (It looks like it is wearing out, its something unique). It has the Threaded barrel so i can equip a flash hider and Blank firing devise (Already bought those, origenal swedish army!). This sunday i am picking the M 38 up :). I also recieved for free, a sling (they easily cost 30 euro) and a 1941 oil bottle set, complete with brush and patch adaptor (Easily costing you 60 euro's). All in all, i got a m/96 for 300 euros(It is brand new, unissued with excellent barrel), a M96-38 for 220 and a M38 for 350 euro. I am satisfied!


(http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/2605/08042013312.jpg)
On top my Swedish mauser M/96. Below my new M96-38

(http://[IMG]http://imageshack.us/a/img833/3504/08042013313.jpg)
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The blueing is a bit less on this rifle. And the bolt is covered in cosmoline. 1905 dated.

(http://imageshack.us/a/img593/3624/08042013315.jpg)

To the left the m/96 sights. To the right the new m38 sights wich are sighted for the then ,new 1940 "Torped" round (Basicly a spitzer).
(http://imageshack.us/a/img33/8918/08042013316.jpg)

The swedish were ahead of there time in 1938. The Tangent sight was only adjustable to 600 meters(when all armies still had long expensive sights going to 2000+ meters).

 In front we have the m/96 sights. On its highest setting of 600 meters
Now compare this to the tangent sight of the M38 at 600 meters. Quit the diffrence eh?

(The m/96 sights can be flipped up to go up to 2000+ meters. But this was rarely done)
Notice how the m/96 sights have to be pushed BACK for longer ranges. when all other sights have to be pushed forward.

(http://imageshack.us/a/img29/3029/08042013317.jpg)


Notice the blueing of  my unissued m/96 and my more used M96-38
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 14-04-2013, 17:04:14
Today i completed my swedish mauser collection :)  I now have all 3 the Model 96 rifles

(http://imageshack.us/a/img4/5299/dsc00518dp.jpg)
My final addition being this 1941 Swedish mauser M38 short rifle. Made by Husqavarna vapenfabrik Aktiebolag.


(http://imageshack.us/a/img24/3586/dsc00519tm.jpg)
Its a early production rifle with the typical early husqavarna blueing. Something went wrong when husqavarna began producing swedish mausers and the Blueing was more grayish.

(http://imageshack.us/a/img687/8561/dsc00521sr.jpg)
Also this example has a threaded barrel so that a blank-firing adaptor and muzzle break can be attached!
Seen here is the blank firing adaptor. It was made because they found out the wooden bullets used in the blanks were still lethal even beyond 25 meters. When firing 6.5x55mm blanks, the gases escape from the hole and the wood shatters inside the adaptor

(http://imageshack.us/a/img7/5284/dsc00520ra.jpg)
Swedish mauser bolts are very easy to dissasemble. Just flip the safety to the upwards position, and screw the thing apart! However dissaembling the firing pin is still simular to any Mauser.

(http://imageshack.us/a/img7/6340/dsc00523ap.jpg)
My accesoires :) Bandoleer+ bayonet, 3 oil bottles (early, mid and late model), Dual patch long patch rod, single patch rod, brush and 2 boxes of stripper clips (one was already opened, the other one is sealed)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img542/2277/dsc00522n.jpg)
My m96 collection all together.
On top the 1915 carl gustav m96 rifle. Fully serial matched
In the middle my 1905 carl gustav M96-38 converted short rifle. Also fully serial matched
And below my new M38 Husqavarna short rifle. Again fully serial matched

The long rifle is gonna be registered next week for shooting in leopoldsburg :). The short rifles will follow in the future.

I still need to buy alot of stuff. A stock disc for my M96-38 , 2 slings. A nose cap for the M38 so the rifle accepts a bayonet.




(http://imageshack.us/a/img27/5651/14042013318.jpg)
And my other loot of today. I went to a militaria fair wich had a stand...with ONLY swiss material!

Bayonet K31 + frog
Various blanks inside there stripper clip. Both early brass and wartime steel blanks.
One RARE violet stripper clip. These were used for Armor piercing bullets.
(http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/1161/14042013319.jpg)
And Swiss army gun cleaning oil and schmidt rubin screw driver. The Swiss army gun oil is the finest out there. This one is ment however, to clean the barrel after firing.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: GuinNess on 15-04-2013, 10:04:52
Nice, i'll hope you have a specail rack for the swedish mausers :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 15-04-2013, 17:04:30
They are safely sealed away in a vault :)

I also sold a bunch. Some idiot bought my 3 carcanos  :P :P  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*

Now i have my swedes, my swiss, my 'Murican/brit/german M1917, my Ishapore SMLE, Mosin nagant , Deutsche K98 und Steyr.

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: luftwaffe.be on 29-04-2013, 17:04:43
I went to Ciney this weekend and bought myself a WWII german field phone in excellent condition for 20 €. But now there is a problem. i played a bit with it to much by cranking it up and mounting things on the end of it's generating nods. Worked all fine fist few times I tried it, but now my crank seems to be stuck in the hole. If I rotate counter clockwise, it no longer offers the same resistance as as first, hence I have trouble unscrewing my crank ! 

Any Ideas ?  :-\

Edit: just gave the crank a good slam at it came loose without a problem :). Just tested the phone it it still worked by connecting both terminals and cranking it up. Worked perfectly as it started ringing  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: MaJ.P.Bouras on 30-04-2013, 00:04:54
Theta


This is a warning. I am going to find you, kill you and steal your collection of rifles!!!!! Goddamn mate !!! So fucking jealous that i cannot get all that shit here in Greece!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 30-04-2013, 08:04:08
Theta


This is a warning. I am going to find you, kill you and steal your collection of rifles!!!!! Goddamn mate !!! So fucking jealous that i cannot get all that shit here in Greece!

Pff, theta has nothing, few nice rifles and some firewood.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: buddycole46 on 01-05-2013, 17:05:09
Here is a great collection of firearms up for auction soon.

Figured you guys would enjoy it!

http://issuu.com/cowans/docs/cowans-classiii-richard-wray/142?mode=a_p
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 01-05-2013, 17:05:20
Theta


This is a warning. I am going to find you, kill you and steal your collection of rifles!!!!! Goddamn mate !!! So fucking jealous that i cannot get all that shit here in Greece!
Y U NO CAN HAVE FIREARMS IN GREECE?

Theta


This is a warning. I am going to find you, kill you and steal your collection of rifles!!!!! Goddamn mate !!! So fucking jealous that i cannot get all that shit here in Greece!

Pff, theta has nothing, few nice rifles and some firewood.
Fuck you, my swedes outshoot any of your junk  ;D

But yeah, of my 8 rifles...The cheapest is 180 euro and the most expensive one is 500. I actually have nothing special. Only my M1917 sticks out

Hardly worth stealing as the M1917 is still considered a bastard rifle  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Musti on 01-05-2013, 17:05:18
Here is a great collection of firearms up for auction soon.

Figured you guys would enjoy it!

http://issuu.com/cowans/docs/cowans-classiii-richard-wray/142?mode=a_p
Holy shit! Now thats awesome :D
I'd like all of them.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: MaJ.P.Bouras on 01-05-2013, 18:05:24
Silly laws that forbit us to have military grade rifles or long barrel weapons with rifled barrel.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Leibermuster on 02-05-2013, 22:05:32
I feel your pain Bouras  :'(

Around here anything bigger than 9mm kurz (for pistols/revolvers) and .22lr((!)for rifles) is "forbidden"(possible only with special licenses that are virtually impossible to obtain). And even when you want to buy a gun of permitted calibre, the ammount of paperwork and money needed is ridiculous. A gun that costs $300 on USA may very well cost upwards of $2000 here, and don't get me started on the ammo  :-X "Sucky laws" don't do justice to the reality  :-\
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: GuinNess on 03-05-2013, 00:05:34
Here is a great collection of firearms up for auction soon.

Figured you guys would enjoy it!

http://issuu.com/cowans/docs/cowans-classiii-richard-wray/142?mode=a_p

The Krummlauf for StG44 and the fully automatic broomhandle would be awsome to own.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Oddball on 03-05-2013, 02:05:25
Here is a great collection of firearms up for auction soon.

Figured you guys would enjoy it!

http://issuu.com/cowans/docs/cowans-classiii-richard-wray/142?mode=a_p

The Krummlauf for StG44 and the fully automatic broomhandle would be awsome to own.

Who are you kidding? They'd all be awesome... Unfortunately I don't have my Class III   :(
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 03-05-2013, 05:05:06
Here is a great collection of firearms up for auction soon.

Figured you guys would enjoy it!

http://issuu.com/cowans/docs/cowans-classiii-richard-wray/142?mode=a_p

The Krummlauf for StG44 and the fully automatic broomhandle would be awsome to own.

Who are you kidding? They'd all be awesome... Unfortunately I don't have my Class III   :(

Page four says no dealers samples so go nuts and open that wallet you cheap bastard. 
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Oddball on 03-05-2013, 06:05:05
Here is a great collection of firearms up for auction soon.

Figured you guys would enjoy it!

http://issuu.com/cowans/docs/cowans-classiii-richard-wray/142?mode=a_p

The Krummlauf for StG44 and the fully automatic broomhandle would be awsome to own.

Who are you kidding? They'd all be awesome... Unfortunately I don't have my Class III   :(

Page four says no dealers samples so go nuts and open that wallet you cheap bastard.

Hmm.. interesting, I'd love to go for something more-so on the less expensive side. Although I'm in CT, the politicians here would flip inside out, doubt I can even transfer one here anymore after our new legislation; I'd have to double check that.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 04-05-2013, 13:05:50
We took the bike for a spin to sweden some weeks ago, here is the proof it is alive!

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/2013-04-09152047.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/2013-04-09152047.jpg.html)

Allso took for a dirt run in the woods, hence the dust and dirt. ( 11th panzer division "Ghost" logo )

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/2013-04-19192703.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/2013-04-19192703.jpg.html)

Here are some of my impressions, the two to the right are Not complete yet.

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/2013-05-04131003.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/2013-05-04131003.jpg.html)

To the left we got an Heer M44 tunic with recon shouldboard and M26 italian trouser. ( trouser inside jacket )

2 to the left, Heer M40 hbt jacket and trouser.

3 to the right, M41 tunic with feldgendarmie collartabs, i got the rest of the insignias somewhere so never mind the infantry shouldboard. M42 wool trouser.

4 to the right is an M38 panzer uniform with trouser. It was shipped with artillery shoulderboard, will exhange with recon shoulderboards. ( The guys here are trying to patch togheter an 222 )
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 04-05-2013, 14:05:58
Swiss M1918 helmet? check!
Mountain boots? check!
G11? check!

Locking myself out of my car forcing me to drive 200 KM extra??

PRICELESS

MOTHERFUCKING DUMBASS THAT I AM
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 04-05-2013, 14:05:40
Hahaha, you did what?


Sorry bro...


Good score for a nice price!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Nilsson on 04-05-2013, 15:05:18
We took the bike for a spin to sweden some weeks ago, here is the proof it is alive!

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/2013-04-09152047.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/2013-04-09152047.jpg.html)

...

Don't go to Svinesund/Nordby, go to Töcksfors! I was asked to go help at that restaurant back when I was working at BK.

I wanna see that bike IRL!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 04-05-2013, 16:05:46
But i go to Nordby all the time! Joe's burgers are so delicious!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 08-05-2013, 11:05:19
okay guys
im in a bit of a dilemma

I have this very nice Smelly (No 1 MK3*) made in ishapore, from 1944. Fully serial matched, great condition overall with a barrel in near-perfect condition

but
but but...
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSObteQkokRA51MKXrl48cT37OaN3lrdGuhEi2L0jDOFF3SWYAs)

The front nose part its bayonet attachment got removed by EVIL GERMAN LAWS

THis part however, is numbered TO the rifle. 40009, just like on the barrel, reciever, bolt and stock

My buddy has a origenal SMLE Ishapore Front nose part...WITH bayonet attachment. This part doesnt have a serial number. I really wanna attach the indian pattern SMLE bayonet on this baby.

Would it be a crime if i remove my front nose part and replace it with this unserial one?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Musti on 08-05-2013, 11:05:02
Nope, do it.
Fully functional rifle > fully serial matched rifle
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 08-05-2013, 11:05:13
Non serial parts can indicate field repairs also. Also, keep the original and if you ever sell it then sell it together with the rifle.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 08-05-2013, 11:05:58
Yeah i was thinking to do that. That way i can, basicly, sell an complete rifle

Now i need to find an ishapore Sling tough  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Thorondor123 on 09-05-2013, 21:05:43
I bought a new MAN PURSE some time ago. In its previous life it was a Finnish Army M/61 gas mask bag.

(http://www.varusteleka.fi/pictures/1715.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Nilsson on 09-05-2013, 21:05:45
I myself also use a gas mask bag, mostly for my camera and such things, Swedish M/36:

(http://www.surplusbuy.se/images/thumbs/0001093.jpeg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 10-05-2013, 14:05:44
I bought a new MAN PURSE some time ago. In its previous life it was a Finnish Army M/61 gas mask bag.
No, no, it's a satchel.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 10-05-2013, 17:05:02
I bought myself a Brodie helmet, MK2.
Don't know how authentic it is, was so cheap i found it weird.
Still, inside is marked with correct markings dating it 1942. No markings on the helmet itself visible though. It seems to be completely painted in some thick paint with sand mixed in it. It came with a Camo cover. The strap is just plain webbing. What do you guys think?

Some pictures:
(http://s13.postimg.org/u91b20n7r/2013_05_10_17_04_09.jpg)
(http://s13.postimg.org/3qintaohz/2013_05_10_17_04_20.jpg)
(http://s13.postimg.org/4oz0vl1tz/2013_05_10_17_04_26.jpg)
(http://s13.postimg.org/vclfdz7uv/2013_05_10_17_04_51.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 10-05-2013, 17:05:24
How much did it cost?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 10-05-2013, 17:05:51
Siben called me today

for wich i hate him


45 euros he payed
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Thorondor123 on 10-05-2013, 17:05:50
I bought a new MAN PURSE some time ago. In its previous life it was a Finnish Army M/61 gas mask bag.
No, no, it's a satchel.
MAN PURSE. Search your feelings. You will know it to be true.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Kading on 10-05-2013, 18:05:44
Siben called me today

for wich i hate him


45 euros he payed

Chin strap is the only thing wrong with it. Sounds like a good bargain.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 10-05-2013, 18:05:16
I wouldnt mind buying such a thing for that price. Even if something is wrong. In this case, find a new chinstrap and you have a nice origenal helmet.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 10-05-2013, 19:05:35
I will look for a good chinstrap then.

I also got some special 8mm mauser ammunition, rather happy with it, collecting purpose only. Looking up what i have at the moment. all wartime ofcourse.

(http://s8.postimg.org/pdmzjlfqt/2013_05_10_19_34_15.jpg)
(http://s8.postimg.org/57jhkpk39/2013_05_10_19_34_21.jpg)
(http://s8.postimg.org/4w217y3n9/2013_05_10_19_35_56.jpg)
(http://s8.postimg.org/8gxwr686t/2013_05_10_19_36_09.jpg)
(http://s8.postimg.org/bg4teaho5/2013_05_10_19_36_43.jpg)
(http://s8.postimg.org/79jyyyi2d/2013_05_10_19_36_53.jpg)

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: luftwaffe.be on 11-05-2013, 21:05:23
I went metal detecting a few days ago. Found 2 one francs of 1943
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 11-05-2013, 21:05:42
I went metal detecting a few days ago. Found 2 one francs of 1943

Thats super awesome, finding nice things in the ground.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Oddball on 11-05-2013, 21:05:04
I went metal detecting a few days ago. Found 2 one francs of 1943

Metal detecting, another fun hobby. What kind of detector do you have?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: luftwaffe.be on 11-05-2013, 21:05:03
I have an garrett ace 150 . Not the most pro detector, but it gets the job done. :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 13-05-2013, 21:05:09
For the gun range, i bought myself a Mosin nagant M91/30  ;D Dated 1942, built by glorious Ishvekh. This was once an ex-sniper but somebody welded the holes for the scope back shut. So i might have to drill them again open and re-tap them. Not sure if i am gonna do this.

185 euros for the rifle. 220 euros for 880 rounds of glorious mother russia ammo  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Oddball on 14-05-2013, 04:05:18
I have an garrett ace 150 . Not the most pro detector, but it gets the job done. :)

Cool, I just have a Bounty Hunter right now, looking to upgrade to a White or Garrett pretty soon...
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 14-05-2013, 18:05:53
Very small film of the bike in motion, we will try to loan an gopro to get something better, and it is just really bad right now. should be open to everyone.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=264703503675393&set=vb.100004072362564&type=2&theater
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 14-05-2013, 21:05:18
SO i just came back from the gunshop

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qia6es7hmc8q4hg/2013-05-14%2021.39.20.jpg

150 euro for the mosin! (instead of 185)
She was once a sniper rifle. Evil german laws however, welded the holes for the scope shut, and installed a regular stock(not the sniper one), aswel as a straight bolt handle

The holes have been re-opened and re-tapped. I found a sniper stock(original) for 45 euros and a new bolt handle (bended) for 20 euros. Now i need a scope and i have a mosin nagant snoyper rifle  ;D

150 euros was cheap, but yeah, this is because they have "tampered" with the rifle...I personally dont mind.For 150 euros its cheap shooting

Also bought a bit of ammo  ;D 880 rounds in the wooden box and then some various rounds that were leftovers. 20 Eurocent per round ftw! Thats 4 euros per 20 rounds.


She was made by ishvekh in 1942 by the way.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 15-05-2013, 19:05:36
Have fun making a sniper Theta.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 15-05-2013, 22:05:58
At what i payed ATM, it seems i will be paying 450 euro in total for the rifle. But that way i have a rifle wich can shoot up to 400 meters
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Kading on 16-05-2013, 02:05:44
At what i payed ATM, it seems i will be paying 450 euro in total for the rifle. But that way i have a rifle wich can shoot up to 400 meters

Just 400 meters with a scoped Mosin? You need to practice more.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 16-05-2013, 17:05:45
At what i payed ATM, it seems i will be paying 450 euro in total for the rifle. But that way i have a rifle wich can shoot up to 400 meters

Just 400 meters with a scoped Mosin? You need to practice more.
The gun range allows only up to 400 meters  ;)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Kading on 16-05-2013, 18:05:12
At what i payed ATM, it seems i will be paying 450 euro in total for the rifle. But that way i have a rifle wich can shoot up to 400 meters

Just 400 meters with a scoped Mosin? You need to practice more.
The gun range allows only up to 400 meters  ;)

I love having national forests, hehehe.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 17-05-2013, 00:05:12
At what i payed ATM, it seems i will be paying 450 euro in total for the rifle. But that way i have a rifle wich can shoot up to 400 meters

Just 400 meters with a scoped Mosin? You need to practice more.
The gun range allows only up to 400 meters  ;)
Fuck the police, Theta. Take that thing out on the streets. Shoot some pigeons in the centre of Antwerpen!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 17-05-2013, 00:05:38
.....i dont live in antwerpen

and i like anything that lives :(


minus seagulls

fuck them
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: th_battleaxe on 17-05-2013, 08:05:56
And besides, if pigeons are your target, you'd better have a shotgun. But do mind there are no muslims about or they'll think you're Hans van Themse all over again
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 17-05-2013, 15:05:27
ooh snap battleaxe, i see what you did there


Still quite sad, its because of that asshole that we got such a strict gunlaw
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Korsakov829 on 22-05-2013, 17:05:13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDai_Tv-c58
South Korea (False Korea if you prefer) has made their first military helicopter. It's quite reminiscent of Mil Mi-14 and so on.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 22-05-2013, 17:05:56
Doesnt surprise me. The MI-7-14 are the most efficient transport helicopter series in the world
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 22-05-2013, 20:05:28
Hmmm not made out of woodenboards and 2by4, something fishy is going on here.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 23-05-2013, 00:05:32
I see K98 prices on the market are rising, now it's somewhere along 500$ a rifle, a while back I could get one for 200€  :-\
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Korsakov829 on 23-05-2013, 00:05:10
Seriously? I should have jumped on that, I usually don't trade those kind of rifles.
Missed opportunities, DAMN!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Mayhemic.MAD on 17-06-2013, 22:06:33
Some posts got moved to the new Metal Detecting (http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?topic=19147.0) Thread to keep it all easy.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: MaJ.P.Bouras on 18-06-2013, 20:06:32
Alright i have a question but i was not sure where to ask it but here seems a bit appropriate:

What's the deal with Russians designing weapons using 7.62 from pistols to rifles?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 18-06-2013, 20:06:40
you mean, why the russians use the 7.62mm calibre?

why not 7.85?

Right?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: MaJ.P.Bouras on 18-06-2013, 20:06:55
Yeah why using the 7,62 always rather than smaller calibre on pistols, SMG's...
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 18-06-2013, 20:06:07
It was first done to ease logistics in terms of tooling. Certain parts could be used in the production of Rifles smgs and pistols

for example, tap drills wich were becoming worn out for mosin nagant production, were re-sharpend and then used for PPSH/PPS/Tokarov production as accuracy was not affected at short ranges by these tools.

Also mosin nagants who were battle damaged, had there barrels canibalized, cut in half, and used for PPS/PPSH production. If lets say, the russians used the 9mm round, they could not have done this.

Other then that, i guess nobody knows. I know that 76.2mm= 3 Inch. In metalurgy, there are many standard sizes.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Leibermuster on 19-06-2013, 13:06:33

tap drills wich were becoming worn out for mosin nagant production,

You sure you don't mean something else? Like a bore reamer, or a gun drill? A tap is a rather innacurate tool that is used to make a thread, and I can't see the correlation between a thread and the bore?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 19-06-2013, 17:06:27
the thing to use to make rifling  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Leibermuster on 19-06-2013, 21:06:52
Rifling Cutter  ;)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 19-06-2013, 21:06:08
hahaha thank you  ;D

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sheikyerbouti on 20-06-2013, 10:06:17
 The Russians standardized their ammunition types in order to ease logistic pressures. it has nothing to do with worn out tools.

 An added bonus is that a 7.62 is generally sufficient to shred anything apart and if they were to ever duke it out with NATO, it comes in handy when they can use their opponents ammunition.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 20-06-2013, 10:06:06
if they were to ever duke it out with NATO, it comes in handy when they can use their opponents ammunition.
What NATO ammo can be used in Soviet/Russian weapons?
7.62 NATO isn´t compatible with any Russian weapon, since the heavy 7.62 (x54mm) is a rimmed cartridge, whereas 7.62x51mm NATO is a center fire cartridge.
The other Russian 7.62(x39mm) cartridge used in light machine guns and the AK47 family is shorter than the 7.62 NATO ammo, so it´s not compatible, either.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 20-06-2013, 17:06:14
if they were to ever duke it out with NATO, it comes in handy when they can use their opponents ammunition.
What NATO ammo can be used in Soviet/Russian weapons?
7.62 NATO isn´t compatible with any Russian weapon, since the heavy 7.62 (x54mm) is a rimmed cartridge, whereas 7.62x51mm NATO is a center fire cartridge.

Now you are wrong here aswel. Both 7.62x54mmR and 7.62x51mm NATO are centerfire cartridges.  The case type for the russian one, is rimmed, and the NATO one is rimless. In the beginning of metalic cartridges, it was tought that a rimmed one would provide the best gas seal and extraction for both bolt action rifles as machine guns.

A rimless cartidge uses a groove to extract.

But neither are compatible. Nor are these bullets alike. The powder is diffrent, most 7.62x54mmR is berdan primed. The russian bullet diameter is actually 7.92mm while the 7.62x51mm NATO/.308 winchester is actually 7.82mm. you cant just pull the bullets and fire it in the other weapon.



7.62x39mm is also, not compatible.

Infact, never try to chamber a firearm for a diffrent cartidge, unless you are absolutely sure that nothing will go wrong.
The 7.5x55mm Swiss GP11 and 7.55x54.5mm MAS are almost identical in performance and size, but the chamber width is much diffrent and fire one in another...and disaster is close to happen


However with proper care, some things are compatible. .30-06 springfield and 7.62x51 NATO are not compatible. But both use eachothers bullets, powder and primers. So just get the proper cases and off you go!

(http://accurateshooter.net/Blog/hornoaldiagram2.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/44/Centerfire_%26_rimfire_ignition.gif)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Leibermuster on 20-06-2013, 21:06:32
Don't forget the captured Tokarev pistols that the Germans used with their own 7.63x25mm Mauser cartridge  ;)

Also found this, might be of some use to a M1917 owner with a shot-out barrel, that doesn't want to replace the original barrel for the sake of originality. the .303 british is .311" in diameter, and the .30-06 is .308", so if the barrel is shot-out, you can load the M1917 with .303 bullets and regain some accuracy. Here's a example:

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/edu79.htm (http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/edu79.htm)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 20-06-2013, 21:06:12
Don't forget the captured Tokarev pistols that the Germans used with their own 7.63x25mm Mauser cartridge  ;)

Also found this, might be of some use to a M1917 owner with a shot-out barrel, that doesn't want to replace the original barrel for the sake of originality. the .303 british is .311" in diameter, and the .30-06 is .308", so if the barrel is shot-out, you can load the M1917 with .303 bullets and regain some accuracy. Here's a example:

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/edu79.htm (http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/edu79.htm)

Aww, but mine already is in .303
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 20-06-2013, 21:06:04
Don't forget the captured Tokarev pistols that the Germans used with their own 7.63x25mm Mauser cartridge  ;)

Also found this, might be of some use to a M1917 owner with a shot-out barrel, that doesn't want to replace the original barrel for the sake of originality. the .303 british is .311" in diameter, and the .30-06 is .308", so if the barrel is shot-out, you can load the M1917 with .303 bullets and regain some accuracy. Here's a example:

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/edu79.htm (http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/edu79.htm)
Thank you. I have an M1917 :)

Don't forget the captured Tokarev pistols that the Germans used with their own 7.63x25mm Mauser cartridge  ;)

Also found this, might be of some use to a M1917 owner with a shot-out barrel, that doesn't want to replace the original barrel for the sake of originality. the .303 british is .311" in diameter, and the .30-06 is .308", so if the barrel is shot-out, you can load the M1917 with .303 bullets and regain some accuracy. Here's a example:

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/edu79.htm (http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/edu79.htm)

Aww, but mine already is in .303
If your barrel is worn out, you can use mosin nagant bullets.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 05-07-2013, 19:07:40
Got this one in the mail today.

(http://imgup.com/data/images/1420.jpg)
(http://imgup.com/data/images/1421.jpg)
(http://imgup.com/data/images/1422.jpg)
(http://imgup.com/data/images/1423.jpg)

If i am not mistaken, a WW2 era ABBL helmet.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 05-07-2013, 19:07:10
Thats insane! how much you payed?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 05-07-2013, 20:07:38
60 euro, but this size is to small to fit my head :(
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 05-07-2013, 20:07:23
60 EURO?     do you have any idea how expensive Adrian helmets are?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 18-07-2013, 17:07:21
I don't know if this is the right place to ask but I have a problem with my k98.  The safety is stuck!  It's stuck all the way to the right and no matter how hard I try I can't push it up. 

When I first got the gun I was able to move the safety with a little effort, but now I can barely nudge it at all.  I have a pretty wiry frame but I don't think I'm that weak.  My dad actually can get it but he's a good deal stronger than me and even for him it's pretty tough.  Once it's not in the right position I can move it easily, but when I move it back to the right it sticks again.  Any advice?  I put some oil on it to see if that would loosen it up a bit.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 18-07-2013, 17:07:19
Try some good WD40. If that doesnt work, try to dissasemble the bolt and the safety. Check for milling rims (you know, leftover metal from manufacturing around edges)

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 18-07-2013, 17:07:51
Ok will do.  But I may have solved it? Not sure.

I was literally just fiddling with it a minute ago, and when I cocked the bolt I could move the safety no problem.  I guess that's the most important that when the gun is is cocked I can put it on safety.  But should I still be able to do it easily when the bolt is not cocked?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 18-07-2013, 17:07:35
oooooh now i see your problem

No you cannot put the safety on when the bolt is uncocked  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 18-07-2013, 18:07:35
Ohhhhh.  I'm a dingus. Thanks!
(http://i.cdn.turner.com/asfix/repository/8a250aae2886f3560128880fe6b60006/check-it-out-with-dr-steve-brule-mommy-brule.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 18-07-2013, 18:07:28
Only the Spanish mauser Model 91-93, Chilean Model 95 and Swedish mausers can have the safety turned on when uncocked.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 23-07-2013, 21:07:49
Got myself a first model turtle helmet, but the inside is broken, well, the liner has tons of rips and the rubber pad is almost completely pulverised. Anyone know where i can find a new complete inside liner? preferably 1944 and Canadian like the one that was in it. Size now is 7 3/4 but it does not matter that much i think.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Paythoss on 26-07-2013, 13:07:42
I founded interesting binocular  :)
(http://s23.postimg.org/c34vajyrb/100_8677.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/c34vajyrb/)
(http://s2.postimg.org/l1wjjjlo5/100_8679.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/l1wjjjlo5/)
(http://s21.postimg.org/om14pgdab/100_8678.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/om14pgdab/)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 26-07-2013, 18:07:02
Very nice! Does it work?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Paythoss on 26-07-2013, 19:07:16
Yup . but need cleaning ... Probably Im gonna need someone good with that .
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: GuinNess on 28-07-2013, 22:07:57
Maybe it is now a bit late to ask this question since I already ordered it but does anybody know if these ZF4 repros are any good?

http://www.zib-militaria.de/ZF4-Wehrmacht
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Pascucci the Whiner on 03-08-2013, 05:08:51
I would like to ask a huge favor from one of our resident Germans here. Zib-Militaria charges a ton for shipping to the US (50 Euro) for an Italian belt and neck strap. I am very sure that one of the guys here could easily cram it in a padded envelope and ship it to me for less. I'd be more than happy to paypal the funds to anyone who could help me with this giant favor. I am reenacting Italian here in the US and we have no sources for this stuff.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 04-08-2013, 00:08:39
My new bike and project!

This is a 1957 PLA Chang jiang 750 (bmw r71). The 1957 means that it is the very rare "M72" variant of the chinese army sidecars. Mostly all CJ bikes today are put togheter from old PLA reserves.

The bike itself has been upgraded from 6 to 12v with a "new" M1M engine that is more stabile, except for the points (ignition) that sticks out of the engine block on the left side, the engine is completly the same BMW. same goes for the gearbox and the rest of the bike minus rear fender pipes that goes down to the exhaust.

Progress, ordered allot of fun parts like the good old Bosch rear lights, full bmw r71 tag set, and so forth.
I hope you once again will enjoy one of my sidecar projects. (I have the bmwr71 fueltank, its just not on yet)

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/_DSC0022.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/_DSC0022.jpg.html)

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/_DSC0020.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/_DSC0020.jpg.html)

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/_DSC0023.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/_DSC0023.jpg.html)

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/_DSC0026.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/_DSC0026.jpg.html)

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/_DSC0025.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/_DSC0025.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Korsakov829 on 04-08-2013, 06:08:32
Awesome! How does it smell?... how does it feel when you touch it?! And how does it sound?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 04-08-2013, 12:08:48
OH ill sniff it for you and i jizz my pants when i touch it.. and the sound is.. sexy.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 04-08-2013, 16:08:52
(http://1-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/tg/image/1336/39/1336393833358.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 08-08-2013, 20:08:17
What do you think, are these guys reliable?

http://www.thirdreichmedals.com/iron.html
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 19-08-2013, 18:08:10
Finely found some cleaning sticks for my italian m38 carbine. these buggers are hard to find. All 3 pieces are stored in the stock of the rifle and screw together to get 1 big stick.

(http://imgup.com/data/images/3187.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Mayhemic.MAD on 20-08-2013, 01:08:55
Some days ago I went trough a old cigar box in my grandmas living room cabinet, filled with old photos and postcards and things like that. On the bottom was, among my grandfathers drafting papers and some other documents, a propaganda flyer "Volk am Abgrund" which the british dropped by air over germany from around september 1943 to june 1944. You can guess that any German caught with such leaflets would get severely punished, if not executed back then.
I already did some quick research but it seems that you can nowhere see the full thing on the internet, only two sites show two pages and explain something about it, all other sites sell it for up to 70€.

So I guess I will put it on the scanner and show it here soon, exclusive for the FH2 community  8)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Korsakov829 on 20-08-2013, 01:08:33
^I'll be looking forward to it, then.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Mayhemic.MAD on 20-08-2013, 21:08:22
I scanned the "Volk am Abgrund" propaganda leaflet and put it all here:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/117350761908364432639/albums/5914273056513647841 (https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/117350761908364432639/albums/5914273056513647841)

thanks to www.psywar.org (http://www.psywar.org) I know it is:

Published by the Political Warfare Executive (PWE) in 1943.
Dropped by air over Germany from about September 1943 until June 1944.

and there is also a explanation of the images with an English translation:

Quote
TRANSLATION OF G.97, VOLK AM ABGRUND
(PAGE 1)
A PEOPLE ON THE BRINK
(PAGE 2/3)
[Picture of German retreat]
Then, as now: retreat.
France, October 1918 Ukraine, November 1943
(PAGE 4/5)
Allies
[Picture on page 4 of Kaiser Karl of Austria with Czar Ferdinand of Bulgaria, 1918]
[Picture on page 5 of King Victor Emmanuel of Italy with Regent Horthy of Hungary]
For years they have been Germany’s allies. They know the secrets of the German General Staff. They know
Germany’s chances of victory. They draw their own conclusions.
(PAGE 6/7)
[Two cartoons from “Simplicissimus”, last war and this war. They show England starved
out by the U-boats. Also two pictures of U-boats being sunk in this war and the last]
Then, as now: The back of the U-boat war has been broken. In the 22 months of unrestricted U-boat warfare from
February 1917 – November 1918, a total of 132 U-boats were sunk. In the six months from May – October 1943 150
U-boats were sunk. In the three months August – October 1943, more German U-boats were sunk than Allied
merchantmen.
(PAGE 8/9)
[Pictures of American troops arriving in this war and the last]
Then and now. The Americans are coming; millions of fresh troops, the best equipped in the world.
(PAGE 10/11)
[Pictures of German prisoners]
Then. Now. German armies are dwindling. The Allied prison camps are filling up.
(PAGE 12/13)
[Pictures of dead Germans]
Then and now. Day by day, and hour by hour.
(PAGE 14/15)
[Newspaper cuttings and cartoons on the theme “Victory or destruction”]
The same phrases – then, as now.TRANSLATION OF G.97, VOLK AM ABGRUND
www.psywar.org
(PAGE 16/17)
[Tragic picture of German women and children]
And then, as now… the same misery. The husband at the front or dead. Day spent in the factory. Hours of waiting in
queues on the way home for the mere necessities of life. Overwork to the point of exhaustion. Misery, tiredness,
bleakness, fear. Then, as today. Was once not enough? Last time the Russians were beaten…
(PAGE 18)
The Russian Peace Delegation at the signing of the dictated peace of Brest-Litovsk.
(PAGE 19)
[Picture of Russian advance, 1943]
The Russian Army moves inexorably forwards.
(PAGE 20)
[Lists of Germans executed for high treason; superimposed on this, the eyes of Heinrich Himmler]
That, too, did not exist then: the terror at home.
(PAGE 21)
[Picture of German atrocities]
Bestiality in all the occupied territories – in Poland, in Yugoslavia and Russia.
(PAGE 22)
[Picture of Flying Fortresses]
Four-engined bombers. For every aeroplane that Germany builds, England and America are building four.
(PAGE 23)
[Picture of smashed up German airfield]
German front airfields are being turned into aeroplane cemeteries – two-thirds of all German fighters have been tied
down in the West in the unsuccessful attempt to ward off the Anglo-American air offensive. Only one-fifth of all
German fighters are available for the Russian front and only one-ninth for Italy. The German soldiers are fighting
with hardly any fighter protection.
(PAGE 24/25)
[Air view of destroyed Hamburg]
“Germany has 90 centres of war production, 40 of which are vital to the German war effort and 50 that can be
termed considerably vital to the German war effort and 50 that can be termed considerably important. We propose to
emasculate them entirely. We are well on the way towards their destruction.” – Air Chief Marshal Harris, 7
November 1943.TRANSLATION OF G.97, VOLK AM ABGRUND
www.psywar.org
(PAGE 26)
[Picture of German workers in factory]
Then. This is how the returning German soldier found his work place when he came back in the winter of
1918/19, when Germany put a timely end to the struggle before she herself became a theatre of war. The
work of reconstruction could begin immediately.
(PAGE 27)
[Picture of smashed factory]
Now. This is how the German soldier will find his place of work; this time, if Hitler continues to prolong
the already lost war.
(PAGE 28)
[Picture of German troops returning into an intact town – last war]
Then. The Germany army was beaten, but it returned to an undamaged Fatherland. The home of the
German soldier waited for him, just as he had left it, because Germany had called a halt in time.
(PAGE 29)
[Picture of bombed German street]
This is how the German soldier will find his Fatherland if Hitler continues to prolong the already lost war.
Every month more German industrial towns are reduced to ashes.
(PAGE 30/31)
Germany stands on the brink of an abyss, just as she did 25 years ago. The German armies, bled white,
are once again retreating. The U-boats have again been beaten. The millions of Americans are again on
the march. Germany’s allies are again leaving her; and, worse than then, the skies over Germany belong
to the vast air fleets of the enemy. The war is lost. Twenty-five years ago, Germany stepped back at the
last moment from the gaping abyss. She had lost the war, but had saved her national life and future. This
time, Germany has a leader who wants to force Germany to fight on despite the fact that every possibility
of victory has gone and that to continue the struggle means total self-destruction.
Hitler knows the end of the war is his end. This is why he prolongs the already lost war.
As long as the war continues one German factory after the other will be razed to the ground. What is
destroyed today in the German war industry will be missed tomorrow for Germany’s peace industries.
Every day that is won for Hitler is lost for the future of the German people.
Only Germans can save Germany!TRANSLATION OF G.97, VOLK AM ABGRUND
www.psywar.org
(PAGE 32)
[Pictures of Hindenburg and of Hitler]
1. “The situation is becoming more critical every day and may force the High Command to take
decisions involving very serious consequences. Under these conditions it will be better to cease the
struggle, in order to avoid useless losses to the German people and their allies. Every day lost is costing
us the lives of thousands of brave soldiers.”
– Hindenburg to Max von Baden, 3 October 1918.
2. “The then Kaiser laid down his arms at a quarter to twelve. I have always stopped at five minutes past
twelve.”
– Adolf Hitler, 8 November 1943.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 22-08-2013, 10:08:56
Sneakpeak!

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20130821_210727.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20130821_210727.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 26-08-2013, 23:08:44
Found a nice boys .55 casing in an old man's house!

stampings say

6C
39
p131
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 26-08-2013, 23:08:57
Found a nice boys .55 casing in an old man's house!

stampings say

6C
39
p131

p131? that is a german code voor Deutsche Waffen-u. Munitionsfabriken A.G., Werk Berlin-Borsigwalde
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 26-08-2013, 23:08:47
(https://sphotos-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/s403x403/1173606_4734734386482_1865564832_n.jpg)

Sorry lads, its 20mm shell casing of Flak 20mm :D Found Natzi eagle
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 27-08-2013, 00:08:14
Just how big is that thing?  :o

~11cm, am I right? Judging by the keyboard on the picture.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 27-08-2013, 00:08:54
about 115mm
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 27-08-2013, 00:08:18
yep, almost identical as mine Yugoslav People's Army M57 20mm

(http://p1.vatera.hu/photos/e8/e4/72a6_1_big.jpg)


hungarian image, I think it's close enough.

(http://www.mycity-military.com/imgs/2705_51306290_ss004.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Mayhemic.MAD on 27-08-2013, 17:08:06
View through the iron sights on my Weihrauch HW-35
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-HiViZzXjnBQ/UhzIMioSGMI/AAAAAAAALmY/cwBvnsWVy58/w1371-h1028-no/20130824_180556.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-R8Gi9od04ww/UhzIQ0dhz3I/AAAAAAAALmg/k7kDzlTDgmQ/w1371-h1028-no/20130824_181405.jpg)
the safety pin looks nice here, but getting a centered pic is nearly impossible :(
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 27-08-2013, 19:08:40
Nice!
what calibre?4.5?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Mayhemic.MAD on 27-08-2013, 21:08:21
Yes, 4.5 mm 16 joule mayhem  ;D
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cd/Diabolo_z.jpg)
Shooting those Diabolos at 10 meter still goes trough a centimeter of wood.
I have to be really careful to shoot only at angled targets or through styro, else they bounce back at still high speeds.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 27-08-2013, 21:08:39
Diablo is the king of pellets. I have german Quality pellets.

I also have a russian brand, they make many types of pellets.
http://www.kvintor.com/production/

i have these types

http://www.kvintor.com/production/showbullet.phtml?top=0001
http://www.kvintor.com/production/showbullet.phtml?top=0058
http://www.kvintor.com/production/showbullet.phtml?top=0063
http://www.kvintor.com/production/showbullet.phtml?top=0011

Very good quality/price. These guys even sell exploding pellets for use in targeting. Not sure if they are legal in every country tough. I dint bought them just to be safe on the legal part. They did worked great however. the 4.5mm made quite the bang, i cannot imagine what the 6.35 ones will do!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 07-09-2013, 10:09:29
For the ones who likes motorbikes!

Still waiting for some parts from poland for the electronics.
I am allso aware of the earlywar sidecar-tag in the middle of the bike that is foolishly placed wrong. (mistook it for another tag)

http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20130831_203109.mp4.html

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20130831_203550.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20130831_203550.jpg.html)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20130831_172401.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20130831_172401.jpg.html)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20130831_182446.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20130831_182446.jpg.html)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20130831_160129.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20130831_160129.jpg.html)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20130831_184247.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20130831_184247.jpg.html)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20130831_160141.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20130831_160141.jpg.html)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20130901_183201.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20130901_183201.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: ksl94 on 11-09-2013, 04:09:15
That looks excellent, Snoox! This motorcycle has become a real beauty after all the passionate work that you put into it  :o .

Also, I have bought myself a good to very good condition P1907 Sanderson bayonet with matching scabbard. It is dated October 1916 and looks like new except for some minor surface corrosion on the pommel. Some minor traces of bluing still remain, but 90+% of the bayonet shows the original finish. It is really stunning. I saw similar specimens going for $150 and upwards. Would that be a justified price? If so, then I would be better off to get myself one of those: http://www.ima-usa.com/british-enfield-p-1907-bayonet-w-scabbard-collector-grade.html Same quality, but new and cheaper.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 11-09-2013, 23:09:20
A bit better pictures of todays work!

Not allot left to do.

We are not allowed to change any numbers or letters OR ordered our own on the license plates in Norway, so this is the best i can do. trying to find originals or repro for private use.

Allso need to get some boxes for the sidecar and a leather bag for the bike frame.

http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20130911_192251.mp4.html

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20130911_210451.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20130911_210451.jpg.html)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20130911_193020.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20130911_193020.jpg.html)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20130911_193009.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20130911_193009.jpg.html)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20130911_193003.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20130911_193003.jpg.html)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20130911_191727.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20130911_191727.jpg.html)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20130911_191721.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20130911_191721.jpg.html)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20130911_153724.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20130911_153724.jpg.html)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20130911_153717.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20130911_153717.jpg.html)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20130911_153656.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20130911_153656.jpg.html)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20130911_153648.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20130911_153648.jpg.html)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20130911_153640.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20130911_153640.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 11-09-2013, 23:09:29
Hello beautifull!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Musti on 12-09-2013, 00:09:43
Daaaaayyymn, total pimp. Excellent work.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 14-09-2013, 20:09:41
So my Ishapore SMLE is fully serial matched from 1944. Saddly, evil post war Nazi's removed her bayonet attachment (Silly german laws)

So i found a new nosecap! With bayonet attachment! Ishapore made!

So today i remove the old nosecap(im keeping her tough), and i spot some rust on the inside of the nosecap...And a bit of rust on the barrel...I was worried so i decided to strip down the wood....
..And then i pretty much recieved an heart attack

(http://imageshack.us/a/img29/3966/r086.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img23/5440/syhr.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img716/2430/aeu7.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img18/9223/av8n.jpg)


GIVE IT TO ME STRAIGHT DOCTOR? WILL SHE LIVE?

She is scheduled for operation tommorow. THe procedure will involve removing her ribs (woodwork) and using scalpel, super fine steelwool, oil and alot of Tender love and care
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 21-09-2013, 19:09:41
Nothing to worry about miss.

Anyhow, I got some more pointy sticks. Both for the steyr m95 rifle, i am just trying to figuere out why they are so different.

(http://imgup.com/data/images/4144.jpg)
(http://imgup.com/data/images/4145.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 21-09-2013, 20:09:57
Cottage industries.  Generally, the way it worked was a design was sent around to the various producers, who would produce them to match the design as best they could.  It's the same explanation for all the uniform differences for the Germans.  Different makers, different machines, different materials on hand, etc.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 24-09-2013, 23:09:01
Original Torn E.B. 1942 reciever radio.

The insides as you can see look factory new wich is great for my part!

Now i just need to get something that put out 2v and 90v and ill see if it works!

I am going to restore the outside of it.

Got it for ridicoulus 200$ in prime shape!

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20130924_221200.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20130924_221200.jpg.html)
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(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20130924_221100.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20130924_221100.jpg.html)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20130924_221031.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20130924_221031.jpg.html)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20130924_220858.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20130924_220858.jpg.html)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20130924_220740.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20130924_220740.jpg.html)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20130924_215032.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20130924_215032.jpg.html)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20130924_215023.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20130924_215023.jpg.html)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20130924_215016.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20130924_215016.jpg.html)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20130924_214954.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20130924_214954.jpg.html)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20130924_214915.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20130924_214915.jpg.html)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20130924_214841.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20130924_214841.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 25-09-2013, 18:09:55
That is insanely awesome.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 30-09-2013, 20:09:51
Together with GuinNess, i added a few new things to my M1917 collection

https://www.dropbox.com/s/vmp4vqgyb1586rb/DSC00877.JPG

One little WW2 scabbard and box of .30-06 blanks. Aswel as a repro WW2 M1907 sling. Now the journey begins on finding a Kerr No buckl sling off WW1. Im probaly going for Repro. Because the origenal ones are bat-shit-expensive
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Tim270 on 05-10-2013, 20:10:14
http://i.imgur.com/c0Elp8O.jpg

Beautiful gun. Going to sit on it for 5-10 years then sell it on. Also Attempted re-finishing the stock on my mosin (38c) only about half done. Fun stuff but quite tricky.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 05-10-2013, 21:10:06
Nice rifle. Make sure you NEVER fire the GP11 in those tough.. Only the blackpowder cartidges are allowed
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 06-10-2013, 16:10:49
TODAY was amazing on the gun range...I unpacked my M1917 enfield. Later on, i look to the left. A guy with a garand! And to HIS left a guy with a springfield! All in one row! We shot eachother rifles, we talked.

Then later on another dude appeared with an M1 Carbine! Never fired one before but man it was sweet and oh so accurate
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 06-10-2013, 17:10:46
I shoot a .22 M1carbine weekly. Super good rifle for me.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 06-10-2013, 17:10:13
Origenal or ERMA produced??
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 06-10-2013, 17:10:49
An old ERMA one that my dad bought on a market in Brugges back in the 80's
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 06-10-2013, 17:10:18
Lucky!!!lucky as HELL!!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 06-10-2013, 23:10:57
Restoration complete. Well i didnt want it to look factory new on the panel, and the box will just have the wear down with time.

Sadly bad pictures, it looks allot better irl.

Still waiting for that damn powersupply though! I guess ill go reproduce the batterybox while i wait..

As some of you might have noticed.. the serial on the box does not match the radio.. Sadly..

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20131002_210208.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20131002_210208.jpg.html)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20131002_205105.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20131002_205105.jpg.html)
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(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20131002_203517.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20131002_203517.jpg.html)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20131002_203510.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20131002_203510.jpg.html)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20131002_203501.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20131002_203501.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 07-10-2013, 22:10:54
Finding serial matched stuff from ww2 is very difficult  ;D

Nice stuff bro!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 24-10-2013, 22:10:32
So today i cleaned my Chilean Model 1895 mauser, Infantry rifle. Aswel as my Swedish mauserr M1896.
(http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/1308/av7f.jpg)

Click on the below links for high quality big photo's.
http://imageshack.us/a/img18/9877/cesy.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img189/6408/i3pw.jpg

The "mauser" design is often being super hailed as superior german design by Paul mauser. But there are others to compliment and who contributed to the design. His brother, for example.
Every mauser is decended from the "Belgian mauser 1889". Together with Belgian engineers, Mauser designed the bolt head wich exists on every mauser today.

The 2 rifles above shown an important evolution. The model 91 argentine and 93 spanish mauser were important evolutions by mauser from the 89 model. The model 1895 "chilean" is an refinement off these small ring 91&93 mausers. Its the model 96 "swedish" that made a rather big impact. The Swedish took the model 93 spanish mauser and did a design of there own. The biggest changes are:

-Cut out in the left reciever for the thumb to pass trough during loading. This small but important change doubled the loading of the rifle. This design feature was taken from the swedes into the model 98 mauser.
-The bolt guide rib. http://imageshack.us/a/img189/6408/i3pw.jpg In this photo you can clearly see the extra rib on the swedish mauser. This kept the bolt better together and made it clatter much less
-The dissasembly lug near the striker head.

Even so, the mauser remains such a facinating design. With the model 98 taking the best of all, with an additional locking lug for that extra safety!


And yes, swedish mauser is superior!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://imageshack.us/a/img138/7228/ogut.jpg
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 25-10-2013, 21:10:36
To bad this tread seems to get little attention.

Anyways, got this months ago. Some sweedish stuff.

(http://imgup.com/data/images/5609.jpg)

I only got it because i know Theta has it also... But not as nice as me  ;D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 26-10-2013, 13:10:57
Yah but i have 2 bandoleers for the price you payed for one bandoleer  ;D i have 2 bayonets + frog for the price you payed for 1  ;D  and my bayonets are in excellent condition aswel  ;D

Prices have risen dramatically. When i got my swedish mauser 2 years ago. I payed 300 euro for a rare civil guard one. And 30 euro for a dry bandoleer. I applied alot of love and leathre fat and it looks used, but in great condition

A bayonet costed me 35 euro's (with the frog!)

Now i have to pay atleast 60 euro's for the bayonet and 50 for a bandoleer.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: ksl94 on 06-11-2013, 02:11:35
Hello everyone,

I have just bought two Mosin-Nagant M91-30 rifles because they were a great value, but now realised that they took away a big part of my funding to complete my US impression. So, I am willing to sell at least one of them. They are both 1943 dated, have a round receiver, are made by Izhevsk and come with a bayonet. Of course I have completely degreased them with CLP (no mineral spirits or anything that could possibly harm the blueing) and have sweated the cosmoline out of the wood. The finish is 98%+ and the wood has only a few scratches. These are magnificent rifles! I plan to sell them for $160 each. Please keep in mind that up until recently Cabela's sold them for $169 full of cosmolene and without a bayonet. If you buy one of those, I will also offer you four boxes of Herter's non-corrosive, berdan primed 7.62x54R steel case cartridges 148 grain for only $5 per box, which is 50% less than what I bought them for. If you would like to have the ammunition without the rifle, the price per box will be $10. Please note that I am open to offers, too. By the way, I am also looking to sell my genuine Colt M4A1 carbine which comes with two thirty-round factory Colt magazines, a manual, a sling and a box. It has 50 rounds through and looks like it did when I bought it. I would like to sell it for $1500. If you buy it at that price, I will include an un-issued USMC M10 bayonet complete with scabbard, which is a $150 value, for free. I am open for reasonable offers on this one, too.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Yustax on 06-11-2013, 02:11:12
Im looking for a nice condition Gewehr 98, made in 1917...for 450$ Very tempting. It will require the refinish of several steel pieces though, nothing than several coats of Teflon coating cant do.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 06-11-2013, 17:11:54
you boys ougtha go to http://forums.gunboards.com/forum.php aswel

good luck selling them!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 07-11-2013, 15:11:13
These are two of our three Krag Jørgensen, i didnt care to find the third one right now.. same with the bolts.

Sadly these are still in my fathers claws, but as soon as i make Sergeant in the norwegian homeguard (january), i can transfer these and my fathers P38 and colts to myself without any reason to have em at all..  :)

These are fully functional  :)

(http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad68/Ole_Andersen/20131107_150003_zpsf75fb395.jpg) (http://s922.photobucket.com/user/Ole_Andersen/media/20131107_150003_zpsf75fb395.jpg.html)

(http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad68/Ole_Andersen/20131107_150108_zps5d41e4c1.jpg) (http://s922.photobucket.com/user/Ole_Andersen/media/20131107_150108_zps5d41e4c1.jpg.html)

(http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad68/Ole_Andersen/20131107_150045_zps78a6087c.jpg) (http://s922.photobucket.com/user/Ole_Andersen/media/20131107_150045_zps78a6087c.jpg.html)

(http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad68/Ole_Andersen/20131107_150058_zps2dd1c50d.jpg) (http://s922.photobucket.com/user/Ole_Andersen/media/20131107_150058_zps2dd1c50d.jpg.html)

(http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad68/Ole_Andersen/20131107_150018_zpscffdf7c7.jpg) (http://s922.photobucket.com/user/Ole_Andersen/media/20131107_150018_zpscffdf7c7.jpg.html)

(http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad68/Ole_Andersen/20131107_150023_zps1fe07869.jpg) (http://s922.photobucket.com/user/Ole_Andersen/media/20131107_150023_zps1fe07869.jpg.html)

(http://i922.photobucket.com/albums/ad68/Ole_Andersen/20131107_150035_zpsbca214e2.jpg) (http://s922.photobucket.com/user/Ole_Andersen/media/20131107_150035_zpsbca214e2.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 07-11-2013, 17:11:57
I AM SO FUCKING JEALOUS
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Hjaldrgud on 09-11-2013, 02:11:37
http://www.finn.no/finn/torget/annonse?finnkode=44458520&searchQuery=andre%20verdenskrig

24 € for one..

Yay or nay?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Korsakov829 on 09-11-2013, 03:11:09
Hmm, no idea what it is, looks like an old rag with instructions. Try for 1 Euro.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Hjaldrgud on 09-11-2013, 03:11:54
German "singleman" bandage from WW2
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 10-11-2013, 23:11:58
http://www.finn.no/finn/torget/annonse?finnkode=44458520&searchQuery=andre%20verdenskrig

24 € for one..

Yay or nay?

Disse får du for 30kr stykke i Oslo på Pentagon.

www.pentagon.no
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 11-11-2013, 11:11:56
sn00x
i will steal your krags
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Kalkalash on 11-11-2013, 17:11:46
My glorious Soviet belt arrived today:
(http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa215/Niko2-0/Randomness/PICT0005_zpsfe9c41d9.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 11-11-2013, 17:11:15
sn00x
i will steal your krags

OH COME AT ME BRO!  :D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 03-12-2013, 18:12:58
I have Glorious GECO Flaregun of bundeswehr

I have Austrian LP 57 flare gun


And now i have this on order!

(http://www.keepshooting.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/f/l/flaregun-mdl78-polishbig.jpg)

Polish WZ 78 flare pistol! HUZZAA!! more flareguns!!!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 03-12-2013, 18:12:20
Looks..... ugly?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 03-12-2013, 18:12:26
Looks..... ugly?
Go drink some juice, siben

My flareguns are soft, and luxurious

your flareguns are hard and lumpy
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 05-12-2013, 17:12:49
Just got my M15 Feldmutz for Austrian.  The colour is rather dark, but it is in the acceptable shade range for austrian feldgrun, and I have to swap out the bras FJI cypher for my grey painted K cypher.  Now to kappenabzeichnen up this bitch!

(http://i.imgur.com/1uc1Jmy.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: th_battleaxe on 05-12-2013, 18:12:57
What does the FJI stand for?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 05-12-2013, 20:12:36
Franz-Joseph 1.?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Korsakov829 on 05-12-2013, 21:12:41
Looks like an E.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 05-12-2013, 23:12:25
Franz-Joseph 1.?

Bingo.  Changed out in 1916 for K for Karl I.  I have the pin for that, just need to replace it, since the unit we do was on Western Front only in 1918.  But our ostfront battles are summer 1916, so the FJI pin is good for that.

I currently have an original edelweiss and city of Krakow kappenabzeichnen, and am looking at a few more specifically Polish and generically patriotic pins.  Need to find one for IR61 though...there were 3 different pin types made, but all are rather rare >:
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: th_battleaxe on 06-12-2013, 13:12:01
Ok, I should have guessed that... :-[
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 06-12-2013, 18:12:08
Herro! I found this really old Nagant revolver in my house.. Im not sure if you can see all of the stamping, you barely see the right part of the N up close with your eyes. Anyone know what kind this is? I really want to know!

All i can see is

REVET
NAGANT
93 (something that looks like an G before 93)


(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20131206_180636.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20131206_180636.jpg.html)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20131206_180616.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20131206_180616.jpg.html)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20131206_180659.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20131206_180659.jpg.html)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20131206_180702.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20131206_180702.jpg.html)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20131206_180646.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20131206_180646.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Hjaldrgud on 06-12-2013, 18:12:20
Herro! I found this really old Nagant revolver in my house..
So you just find old shit in your house? :P Cool!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Korsakov829 on 06-12-2013, 18:12:54
Well, it is a Nagant, but doesn't quite seem like any official national variant of a M1895 that I know of. First thing I noticed was the grip, there's a second screw going through it so perhaps it's been modified by someone in a few other ways. I don't think it's Russian or Yugoslav, not Swedish, Lithuanian, Luxembourg, Brazilian, Argentine, or Polish, it might not even be military. It could be Belgian, REVET should be BREVET, below that NAGANT, and 4 digit number usually, then below that I forget, a coat of arms or something?

Your best bet is to try and look through some old French language sources, 100 year old books about revolvers and such.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 06-12-2013, 18:12:16
Found it! THETA FOUND IT FIRST, THANK YOU. Its a swedish M1887 nagant made for the norwegian army! Now thats even more awesome! It was used be someone on my fathers side apperently.

http://www.littlegun.be/ma_collection/belgique/be%20klmno/a%20be%20nagant%201887%20postal%20gb.htm
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 06-12-2013, 18:12:05
OYE I HELPED YOU WITH IT WANKER
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 06-12-2013, 19:12:32
OYE I HELPED YOU WITH IT WANKER

Edited
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Korsakov829 on 06-12-2013, 19:12:46
Are you sure? Wouldn't it say Husqvarna then?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Hjaldrgud on 06-12-2013, 19:12:28
yeah, what about that second screw on the grip?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 06-12-2013, 19:12:28
It will most likely be the swedish nagant.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 06-12-2013, 22:12:22
Are you sure? Wouldn't it say Husqvarna then?

It looks like some would be rebranded at Kongsberg Våpenfabrikk (Weaponsfactory), some by private gunsmiths and so on, much like german stuff durring the war would be branded with different brands
depending on where it was assembled/manufactured..

I had an hk416 in the army, i had the D variant, whilst some had N variant and so on. same rifle, diff brandings.

as far as this i will go with that it is an norwegian service revovler, unless someone can bring up something that points in another direction.. :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 27-12-2013, 14:12:26
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMKn3BBaC_U

Can you imagine coming in a bar full of gangsters, with a hip slung bren with THIS magazine? SAY HELLO TO MA LITTLE FRIEND

*BABABABABABABABABABABABABAclick

Fuck...
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 27-12-2013, 18:12:34
Hehe, I saw 2 of those for sale not so long ago, including original box, they come not cheap my friend.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 27-12-2013, 20:12:54
Love it!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: GuinNess on 29-12-2013, 00:12:58
Today I got something new in my collection

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/577/fmmw.jpg)

First who guesses right gets a free internet cookie
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 29-12-2013, 01:12:19
cigarette case?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Korsakov829 on 29-12-2013, 01:12:16
Ok, 1937 NSKOV badge, but what is it embedded into?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 29-12-2013, 01:12:48
Looks like a cigarette case that someone stuck a NSKOV tinnie on to.  NSKOV was the Nazi war victims support group, for wounded WW1 vets.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: GuinNess on 29-12-2013, 01:12:25
Looks like a cigarette case that someone stuck a NSKOV tinnie on to.  NSKOV was the Nazi war victims support group, for wounded WW1 vets.

Great, you won a cookie. In the first place i didnt even know they had such a vet care organisation.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: ksl94 on 06-01-2014, 23:01:08
I just bought a Winchester M12 which I am going to convert into a trench gun  :D . The heat shield was ordered yesterday. To-day I will place a massive order at ATF, has anyone around here dealt with them before? They seem to have the most accurate reproductions that are available, but I would just like to make sure that they are a good source for both uniforms and equipment. After all of that arrives, I will finally have the minimum amount of gear to finally re-enact U.S. Army as well, both ETO and Pacific alike  :o .
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 07-01-2014, 00:01:03
...what are you going to do?
converting?

As in? Being bubba?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Musti on 07-01-2014, 00:01:19
As in you buy a civilian hunting Win M12 (or whatever) and you make it look like an actual "trench gun" M12
With them short barrels, bayonets, heat shields etc. I think.
Pics when finished please :D.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: ksl94 on 07-01-2014, 03:01:22
...what are you going to do?
converting?

As in? Being bubba?

Well, I cannot afford buying a multi-thousand dollar collectible that I could not even use. These things are so rare that touching them without cotton gloves would be a bad move already. The one I bought shows a lot of wear, and I doubt that anyone else would take as much care of her as I will. The shotgun cost me $350 and the heat shield and the required magazine plug about $130 including shipping. The gunsmith will charge $50 for shortening the barrel and a little more for installing the heat shield. See my friend, I hate Bubba modifications as well, but this is the only way for me to get a trench gun under reasonable conditions. Besides, I will make it a trench gun clone and not put an ACOG or some other tacti-cool BS on it  :P . The real Bubbas who sporterize SMLEs and Mosins ought to be castrated without notice. I agree.

@ Musti: I promise to do so!  :D
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 07-01-2014, 15:01:34
Multi thousand? really? they are under a thousand here, all original, I am wondering why the US prices are higher then european on this. Really not normal.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Korsakov829 on 07-01-2014, 16:01:46
Because the USA is silly like that, whatever gun might cost the rest of the world 100 euros could cost up to 10000 there. As a general rule, divide by 100 to find a close estimate to its actual price.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 07-01-2014, 16:01:46
...what are you going to do?
converting?

As in? Being bubba?

Well, I cannot afford buying a multi-thousand dollar collectible that I could not even use. These things are so rare that touching them without cotton gloves would be a bad move already. The one I bought shows a lot of wear, and I doubt that anyone else would take as much care of her as I will. The shotgun cost me $350 and the heat shield and the required magazine plug about $130 including shipping. The gunsmith will charge $50 for shortening the barrel and a little more for installing the heat shield. See my friend, I hate Bubba modifications as well, but this is the only way for me to get a trench gun under reasonable conditions. Besides, I will make it a trench gun clone and not put an ACOG or some other tacti-cool BS on it  :P . The real Bubbas who sporterize SMLEs and Mosins ought to be castrated without notice. I agree.

@ Musti: I promise to do so!  :D
From what year is this Winchester M12?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 07-01-2014, 19:01:50
Because the USA is silly like that, whatever gun might cost the rest of the world 100 euros could cost up to 10000 there. As a general rule, divide by 100 to find a close estimate to its actual price.

Um, yeah, no.

The reason certain firearms are more expensive than others in the US over Europe is simple supply and demand.  The US government is very bad about allowing weapons imports, and so whilst there may be more trench guns over in europe (from old stock piles, US government selling it off, etc), it is next to impossible to get them imported into the USA, as they are still classified as military firearms.  Most recently, the US government blocked South Korea from offloading a bunch of old M1 Garands and M1 Carbines from the Korean War.  Where the average gun owner saw the chance at a massive price drop and thus a chance to finally own a Garand or Carbine for under 1000, the US government saw evil military weapons.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 08-01-2014, 16:01:28
Maybe, but those shotguns are a pacific thing, no? How could more end up in europe, we don't really import that many weapons.

Interesting, a Garand or carbine can be bought for 650 euro here.

I am jealous of your bolt action and pistol prices though, most of the time they are like Half of here, or a quarter.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Korsakov829 on 08-01-2014, 17:01:21
Because the USA is silly like that, whatever gun might cost the rest of the world 100 euros could cost up to 10000 there. As a general rule, divide by 100 to find a close estimate to its actual price.

Um, yeah, no.

The reason certain firearms are more expensive than others in the US over Europe is simple supply and demand.  The US government is very bad about allowing weapons imports, and so whilst there may be more trench guns over in europe (from old stock piles, US government selling it off, etc), it is next to impossible to get them imported into the USA, as they are still classified as military firearms.  Most recently, the US government blocked South Korea from offloading a bunch of old M1 Garands and M1 Carbines from the Korean War.  Where the average gun owner saw the chance at a massive price drop and thus a chance to finally own a Garand or Carbine for under 1000, the US government saw evil military weapons.

Who said anything about importing, exporting, and manufacturing legally?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 08-01-2014, 18:01:16
Enjoy the felony charges then.


@sibin:

They may have been sold off in the 1950s or so, I'm unknowledgeable of it.  All I know is they're rare, extremely sought after collectors items here now.

And that Garand/carbine price would be almost 900 bucks here, so it's not that much cheaper :P
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 11-01-2014, 17:01:18
My R71 replica is getting real close to finished now! Installed a new Dnepr K750 6V engine with the classy manual timing, Bosch type generator and breaker ignition with a distributor! that only differs from the BMW with a different front lid for the ignition and an outside coil.
Some must think im crazy downgrading from 12V to 6V, but everything for autenticity!

Got a brand new R71 airfilter installed aswell, new throttlecables, timing cable, a russian M72 headlamp with the R71 styled ignitionlock and key.

Yes i know its a piece of wood, its only there untill i can weld a piece of sheet metal onto it.

For those who wonder "what does a motorbike replica do in the militaria thread?" This bike is originaly the bmw R71 made in china for the PLA, peoples liberation army. This bike is actually the First ones that rolled out in 1957. Wich makes it... militaria.. :)

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20140108_213801.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20140108_213801.jpg.html)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20140108_213730.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20140108_213730.jpg.html)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20140108_201708.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20140108_201708.jpg.html)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20140108_201648.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20140108_201648.jpg.html)

The grey cable is the manual timing if anyone wondered.
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20140108_201642.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20140108_201642.jpg.html)

Old russian 15amp fuses.
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20140108_180451.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20140108_180451.jpg.html)


Notice the Bosch logo on the red light glass thingy.
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20140103_213211.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20140103_213211.jpg.html)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20140103_213202.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20140103_213202.jpg.html)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20140103_213143.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20140103_213143.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Hjaldrgud on 11-01-2014, 23:01:19
That is too cool!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 12-01-2014, 11:01:35
Long live Bosch!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Krätzer on 12-01-2014, 12:01:01
Bosch still rocks today in Germany. :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Hockeywarrior on 14-01-2014, 06:01:31
Hey all, it has been a while since I've posted in this thread. I recently acquired a couple of rifles that might interest you.

First up, my MAS-36 rifle:

http://imgur.com/a/qK2Q1#0
http://imgur.com/a/qK2Q1#1
http://imgur.com/a/qK2Q1#4
http://imgur.com/a/qK2Q1#6
http://imgur.com/a/qK2Q1#7
http://imgur.com/a/qK2Q1#11

I have only fired it a few times, since the 7.5x54 French ammo is fairly hard to find (and expensive). The rifle was made sometime between the end of WWII and 1949. Like most of these post-war rifles, the bore is excellent and the stock is in great shape.

Second up, and my most recent acquisition, a Finnish M91 Mosin (pre-91/30)

http://imgur.com/a/wAfGL#14
http://imgur.com/a/wAfGL#7
http://imgur.com/a/wAfGL#8
http://imgur.com/a/wAfGL#5
http://imgur.com/a/wAfGL#13
Size comparison with my Turkish M38 Mauser:
http://imgur.com/a/wAfGL#17

I cleaned up the stock after I bought it and applied a few extra layers of boiled linseed oil. The Finns didn't use hard shellac on their rifles like the Russians, but instead used an oil-based finish. The sling is an original Finnish caribou hide sling. Some research on the markings indicates that the rifle was made (or at least the barrel/receiver was made) in the Tika arsenal sometime in 1941. It is a full-length M91 and does not have the shortened barrel or any other changes from the M91/30.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 14-01-2014, 17:01:44
This is most likely a M24 lotta rifle. And the finnish never manufactured any recievers for the mosin nagant. They did made barrels however and pretty much anything exept buttplates and recievers.


As for the MAS 36. Great sexy rifle. As for ammo, there are various ways to reload 7.5x54mm mas. you can use .308 bullets. And IIRC you can resize 6.5x55mm Swedish brass into proper brass.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 14-01-2014, 19:01:46
Nice nice, a mossin nagant 1891 is also something i would like.

About the MAS 36, The year and month of manufacture is stamped in the cartouche on the stock, but looking at your serial number only i can say it must be made late 1946 or early 1947. Serial N 237xx is December 1946, N 554xx is september 1947.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Hockeywarrior on 15-01-2014, 05:01:53
This is most likely a M24 lotta rifle. And the finnish never manufactured any recievers for the mosin nagant. They did made barrels however and pretty much anything exept buttplates and recievers.


As for the MAS 36. Great sexy rifle. As for ammo, there are various ways to reload 7.5x54mm mas. you can use .308 bullets. And IIRC you can resize 6.5x55mm Swedish brass into proper brass.
The main issue with it being an M24  is that the markings don't match up. I don't have any of the markings consistent with those rifles on my receiver or barrel... http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinM24.htm
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Ciupita on 15-01-2014, 14:01:20
This is most likely a M24 lotta rifle. And the finnish never manufactured any recievers for the mosin nagant. They did made barrels however and pretty much anything exept buttplates and recievers.


As for the MAS 36. Great sexy rifle. As for ammo, there are various ways to reload 7.5x54mm mas. you can use .308 bullets. And IIRC you can resize 6.5x55mm Swedish brass into proper brass.
The main issue with it being an M24  is that the markings don't match up. I don't have any of the markings consistent with those rifles on my receiver or barrel... http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinM24.htm

Might be a captured rifle, from Soviets during Winter War, and just got fixed during 1941 in Finland (which would explain the Finnish parts).
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 15-01-2014, 16:01:31
This is most likely a M24 lotta rifle. And the finnish never manufactured any recievers for the mosin nagant. They did made barrels however and pretty much anything exept buttplates and recievers.


As for the MAS 36. Great sexy rifle. As for ammo, there are various ways to reload 7.5x54mm mas. you can use .308 bullets. And IIRC you can resize 6.5x55mm Swedish brass into proper brass.
The main issue with it being an M24  is that the markings don't match up. I don't have any of the markings consistent with those rifles on my receiver or barrel... http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinM24.htm

Might be a captured rifle, from Soviets during Winter War, and just got fixed during 1941 in Finland (which would explain the Finnish parts).

There were shittons of captured M91s used by the Finns, and they were all generally restocked.  The above posted rifle is by all chances one of those.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Hockeywarrior on 18-01-2014, 20:01:01
This is most likely a M24 lotta rifle. And the finnish never manufactured any recievers for the mosin nagant. They did made barrels however and pretty much anything exept buttplates and recievers.


As for the MAS 36. Great sexy rifle. As for ammo, there are various ways to reload 7.5x54mm mas. you can use .308 bullets. And IIRC you can resize 6.5x55mm Swedish brass into proper brass.
The main issue with it being an M24  is that the markings don't match up. I don't have any of the markings consistent with those rifles on my receiver or barrel... http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinM24.htm

Might be a captured rifle, from Soviets during Winter War, and just got fixed during 1941 in Finland (which would explain the Finnish parts).

There were shittons of captured M91s used by the Finns, and they were all generally restocked.  The above posted rifle is by all chances one of those.
Good point, I bet that's the case. Does that mean they completely remade the receiver and barrel in 1941 or only refurbished?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 18-01-2014, 20:01:15
Only refurbished, receiver remained the same apart from occasional army stampings.  Thus why you can buy lots of Finnish M91 mosins as antiques in the US, not as firearms, as the receivers were made before 1898, and for the government, only the year the receiver was made matters.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Hockeywarrior on 21-01-2014, 02:01:01
Only refurbished, receiver remained the same apart from occasional army stampings.  Thus why you can buy lots of Finnish M91 mosins as antiques in the US, not as firearms, as the receivers were made before 1898, and for the government, only the year the receiver was made matters.
I guess one thing I don't understand is that, if my rifle were a Soviet capture, wouldn't it have the 91/30 changes made to it (shorter barrel, newer sights, sight hood, etc)? Or were the Russians still using tons of unmodified M91s during the Winter War?

And is there a way to tell if the receiver is that old? Obviously all I have to go on right now is the serial number and the date, which both indicate 1941. Are there any remaining markings on the receiver that would indicate its actual age? Sorry, I know these questions are pretty specific, but you guys know this shit better than me so consider it flattery ;)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 21-01-2014, 19:01:37
guys whats the diffrence between the Kar98a, Kar98aZ and kar98b??
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Korsakov829 on 21-01-2014, 20:01:20
I don't know a damn thing about K98s, but I'd guess some small differences like where the sights are.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 21-01-2014, 20:01:09
IIRC, dont take my word for this,
Kar98a, a stub nosed carbine with a flat bolt handle used turn of the century till about end of WW1, would evolve into the AZ variant.
Kar98AZ, looks more like the k98k to come had distinct staking hook, "normal" rifle lenght. 'normal' 8mm amunition. Also, the polish version of this rifle is the only true K98 rifle.
Kar98b, is a Gew98 with the K98k sights, the rifle used from the 1920's onwards in Germany before the k98k came.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Turkish007 on 22-01-2014, 16:01:41
What does that hook kind of thing do in the back of the FT17?

(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQWJ_9nea3D7meFveGCCz_HKoEF23HhipMFgyrUhu1dWoDEX4dI)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: th_battleaxe on 22-01-2014, 16:01:02
It was sort of a support. I think it was supposed to keep the tank from getting stuck in a trench.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Oberst on 22-01-2014, 17:01:12
IIRC it acts as a kind of counterweight to stabilize the tank, as the FT17 was kind of head heavy, due to the turret position very much in the front (and the "thick" front armor). Due to this, the Ft17 had a tendency to fall into trenches head first.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Turkish007 on 22-01-2014, 19:01:18
I see. But I remember seeing a FT17 with some kind of wheel or cable attached to its behind.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 22-01-2014, 20:01:37
The wheel thing was to aid in steering.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Turkish007 on 23-01-2014, 21:01:27
Thank you all for the information, I had this question in my mind for quite a long time, never bothered to ask until now though.

EDIT: By the way, I mistook this thread as the Question Thread, sorry if I caused any confusions.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Yustax on 24-01-2014, 06:01:37
Couldnt resist. I just bought another Enfield NO4 MK1. But it needs some Restoration of the wood and get the rust out of the iron sights.

(http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/388994000/388994394/pix639129017.jpg)
(http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/388994000/388994394/pix882009534.jpg)
(http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/388994000/388994394/pix645704093.jpg)
(http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/388994000/388994394/pix035349361.jpg)

Planning to do it like they did the rifles back then. Raw linson oil, no staining. And the metal refinish it with the british steel paint.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 24-01-2014, 14:01:59
Why touch the metal? just remove the rust :) thats all you need to do

As for the wood, thats a diffrent story.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Yustax on 25-01-2014, 04:01:32
it needs a refinish I'm some parts. Gotta clean the bore too.

But man. 303 is harder and harder to find nowadays.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: GuinNess on 26-01-2014, 22:01:44
Last year I bought this Panzerfaust at a Militaria fair for 30€.

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/703/sd1r.jpg)

First i did some sanding and the spackling
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/34/42a6.jpg)

And this is the result

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/41/tmzu.jpg)

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/69/yz2b.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Hjaldrgud on 26-01-2014, 23:01:25
Me gusta!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 26-01-2014, 23:01:57
i was there when GuinNess bought that, and i tought "Jees thats 30 euro wasted"


Stupid me...
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 27-01-2014, 20:01:33
Pretty cool. Nice restore there.

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Damaso on 27-01-2014, 20:01:50
Last year I bought this Panzerfaust at a Militaria fair for 30€.

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/703/sd1r.jpg)

First i did some sanding and the spackling
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/34/42a6.jpg)

And this is the result

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/41/tmzu.jpg)

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/69/yz2b.jpg)


WOW!  :o

3 questions:

1st - does that panzerfaust actually works? (i mean, can you shoot that against an real sherman tank and destroy it?)

2nd - i see that "texturing" is VERY VERY VERY similar to FH2 texture of panzerfaust gun... tell me: does fh2 texturing (the message and all the details) correspond to real life ww2 panzerfaust  drawing?

3rd - can somewone traduce that entire german text who is on the panzerfaust to proper english please?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 27-01-2014, 20:01:35
Ofcourse you cant :p
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Damaso on 27-01-2014, 20:01:38
Ofcourse you cant :p

so... is that just a real model winout the "explosives" on it?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 27-01-2014, 20:01:33
Demilled, yes
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: NotOnymous on 27-01-2014, 22:01:42
3rd - can somewone traduce that entire german text who is on the panzerfaust to proper english please?

1. Kopf abn ehmen. [Remove Warhead]
2. Kopf senkrecht halten u. Zündladung 34 so einsetzen, dass das Papier-Abdeckblatt sichtbar ist. [Hold the warhead vertical and insert the ignition-charge 34 so that the paper cover is visible.]
3. Zünder einsetzen mit dem Zündhütchen gegen das Papier-Abdeckblatt. [Insert ignitor with ignitor cap facing the paper cover.]
4. Kopf wieder aufstecken. [Put warhead back on.]
5. Die Pappkappe am Rohtrende bleibt beim Abschuss aufgesetzt. [The cardboard cover at the end of the barrel remains in place when firing.]
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: MaJ.P.Bouras on 28-01-2014, 13:01:52
For 30€ jeez i wish i could get one like that!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Damaso on 28-01-2014, 21:01:02
3rd - can somewone traduce that entire german text who is on the panzerfaust to proper english please?

1. Kopf abn ehmen. [Remove Warhead]
2. Kopf senkrecht halten u. Zündladung 34 so einsetzen, dass das Papier-Abdeckblatt sichtbar ist. [Hold the warhead vertical and insert the ignition-charge 34 so that the paper cover is visible.]
3. Zünder einsetzen mit dem Zündhütchen gegen das Papier-Abdeckblatt. [Insert ignitor with ignitor cap facing the paper cover.]
4. Kopf wieder aufstecken. [Put warhead back on.]

I may die in peace now... thank you ononymous! :D
5. Die Pappkappe am Rohtrende bleibt beim Abschuss aufgesetzt. [The cardboard cover at the end of the barrel remains in place when firing.]
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Hockeywarrior on 02-02-2014, 21:02:39
Here's a video of my aforementioned Finnish M91 Mosin Nagant (Tikka 1941) at the range, along with two other Mosin Nagants owned by my friends -- a 91/30 (1943) and an M44 carbine. Enjoy! I couldn't resist the Russian music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffmqA8ARZy0&feature=youtu.be

From left to right: 91/30 (1943), Finnish M91 (1941), M44 carbine (1944)
(http://i.imgur.com/m4o3fr2l.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 02-02-2014, 23:02:03
Magnificent beautifull babies you got their. What ammo did you fired? (Check headstamps on the rounds and post em, i'll search me soviet cartidge book)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 03-02-2014, 03:02:37
Finger away from the trigger when sights and eyes are not on the target! Thats a nasty one. >:(

 Nice vid though.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Hockeywarrior on 03-02-2014, 04:02:13
Magnificent beautifull babies you got their. What ammo did you fired? (Check headstamps on the rounds and post em, i'll search me soviet cartidge book)
Thanks! It was fun to experience so much mosin history in one day.

Well, to be honest I'm not terribly sure about the manufacturer of the ammo. The markings on the back say 188 along the top rim and 75 along the bottom rim of the case. There are no markings on the primer. The tip of the bullet has silver paint on it as well. I don't have a good enough camera handy at the moment to take a photo for you.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 03-02-2014, 18:02:37
No need, you have 147 grain, steel core ammo, made by Klimov/Novosibirsk, in 1975. Great rounds, i have a case myself,but from 1978. This is great surplus ammo.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Hockeywarrior on 05-02-2014, 04:02:23
No need, you have 147 grain, steel core ammo, made by Klimov/Novosibirsk, in 1975. Great rounds, i have a case myself,but from 1978. This is great surplus ammo.
Thanks for the info! The ammo also isn't nearly as dirty as some of the other surplus I've shot in the past. The only downside to this ammo is that I won't be able shoot it at certain ranges in the US -- some of them don't want steel core ammo.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Pascucci the Whiner on 05-02-2014, 04:02:41
I'd like the see a picture of the receiver tang of your Tikka 1891. Usually there is a 2, 3 or 4 digit date and an arsenal mark. Could tell you more about it with that information. They're nice rifles, I have VKT refinished one from 1941, it's the most accurate rifle in my collection. I have 7 other Mosins to compare it to and 15 rifles total, so that says a lot about their quality.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 06-02-2014, 20:02:36
Not all of the WW1 goodies I have, but it represents the main rifles used in the front line at one point of the war at least.

(http://imgup.com/data/images/11281.jpg)

Top to Bottom: UK: Smle III*, Italy: Carcano 1891, Switserland: Schmidt Rubin 1889/11, France: Berthier 1907/15, Austria-Hungary: Steyr Manlicher m95, Germany: Gew 88/05
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Hockeywarrior on 07-02-2014, 10:02:35
I'd like the see a picture of the receiver tang of your Tikka 1891. Usually there is a 2, 3 or 4 digit date and an arsenal mark. Could tell you more about it with that information. They're nice rifles, I have VKT refinished one from 1941, it's the most accurate rifle in my collection. I have 7 other Mosins to compare it to and 15 rifles total, so that says a lot about their quality.
Nice, yeah once I figured out the sight picture on my Finn M91 I was hitting the target every time off-hand at 100 yards. Amazing.

I'll be sure to take a picture of the receiver tang the next time I disassemble the rifle. It's not the easiest rifle to take apart (im always afraid of scratching the wood finish when getting the barrel bands off).
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: GuinNess on 08-02-2014, 01:02:30
Not all of the WW1 goodies I have, but it represents the main rifles used in the front line at one point of the war at least.

(http://imgup.com/data/images/11281.jpg)

Top to Bottom: UK: Smle III*, Italy: Carcano 1891, Switserland: Schmidt Rubin 1889/11, France: Berthier 1907/15, Austria-Hungary: Steyr Manlicher m95, Germany: Gew 88/05

Great collection, they only rifle I miss there is a 1903 Springfield ;)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 08-02-2014, 08:02:07
Thanks,
6 that are curently on the WW1 list is the canadian ross rifle, the american springfield, the american P-17, the Belgian mauser, the frensh lebel and the german gew98.
I think i am sort of complete then.

And then there is the list of second line weapons... sigh. It will never end  :-[
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 08-02-2014, 11:02:38
The ross rifle is a dream rifle for me, aswel as the springfield and P14
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 08-02-2014, 17:02:23
Thanks,
6 that are curently on the WW1 list is the canadian ross rifle, the american springfield, the american P-17, the Belgian mauser, the frensh lebel and the german gew98.
I think i am sort of complete then.

And then there is the list of second line weapons... sigh. It will never end  :-[

<cough> Mosin M91, Turk Mauser, and Arisaka ;)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 08-02-2014, 18:02:30
How can i forget... ofcourse, not a turk mauser though. somehow.. just like those swedish mausers, i don't like them.....
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 08-02-2014, 18:02:35
How can i forget... ofcourse, not a turk mauser though. somehow.. just like those swedish mausers, i don't like them.....

There are many Turk Mauser types that they used ;)  Find one you like, and it should also work for representing Greece.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 08-02-2014, 20:02:54
amateur
fool
Long live swedish mausers!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 08-02-2014, 20:02:37
How can i forget... ofcourse, not a turk mauser though. somehow.. just like those swedish mausers, i don't like them.....

There are many Turk Mauser types that they used ;)  Find one you like, and it should also work for representing Greece.

There is one i like, the 1890 model but it looks exactly the same as the Belgian 1889 mauser :)

amateur
fool
Long live swedish mausers!

Tentpole + firewood.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Ciupita on 08-02-2014, 22:02:56
How can i forget... ofcourse, not a turk mauser though. somehow.. just like those swedish mausers, i don't like them.....

There are many Turk Mauser types that they used ;)  Find one you like, and it should also work for representing Greece.

There is one i like, the 1890 model but it looks exactly the same as the Belgian 1889 mauser :)

Because it is.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 08-02-2014, 23:02:40
How can i forget... ofcourse, not a turk mauser though. somehow.. just like those swedish mausers, i don't like them.....

There are many Turk Mauser types that they used ;)  Find one you like, and it should also work for representing Greece.

There is one i like, the 1890 model but it looks exactly the same as the Belgian 1889 mauser :)

Because it is.

Sorts off, there are many small differences. I only want the Belgian one though.

Now that I think of it, I dont have a single USArmy object. Funny.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 09-02-2014, 12:02:00
The argentine M1889 is a direct copy of the Belgian mauser. That will be your best bet

As for myself, i have currently landed on the following collection:

-Mosin nagant M1891/30 rifle. Ishevkh1942
-Mosin nagant M38 carbine. Ishevekh1943
-M1917 Enfield, Remington made, 1918
-M/96 Gevâr Swedish mauser, Carl gustaff Stadsfaktori 1915
-No 1 MKIII*. Ishapore, 1944
-Israeli K98k, FN made .308, 1950
-Chileno mauser M1895, Deutsche Waffen-und-Munition, 1905-1906
-M48a yugo mauser, Preduce 44(later Zastava), 1955
-K31 Schmidt rubin, Bernn waffenfabrik, 1949

I have several rifles wich i want to extend that with. For starters, an M24-47, and eventually i want to have again a No4 MKI lee enfield. And eventually a Ross rifle MkIII*, P14 and Mosin nagant M44 carbine

Once that is achieved, perhaps a Schmidt rubin G11 and K11 and a Gewehr 98 or Kar98AZ or Kar98b.

Gonna take some years to get all this.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Yustax on 21-02-2014, 08:02:57
Enfield NO4 MK1 restoration is complete! I changed the upper handguard with a grooved one and I relieved the wood shrinkage with a delicious mix of raw linseem oil and turpentine mix with some droplets of chestnut stain. Then I also refinished the magazine and the frontal sight ears with some suncorite and then baked for 3 hours.

Pics tomorrow!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Yustax on 23-02-2014, 03:02:17
Pics! Strangely, mind came with the Jungle Carbine rear sights, a white painted front sight and the forend metal piece is missing.

(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c49/Yustax/IMG_20140222_200114_zps29220d23.png) (http://s24.photobucket.com/user/Yustax/media/IMG_20140222_200114_zps29220d23.png.html)
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c49/Yustax/IMG_20140222_200155_zpsfb1af541.png) (http://s24.photobucket.com/user/Yustax/media/IMG_20140222_200155_zpsfb1af541.png.html)
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c49/Yustax/IMG_20140222_200104_zps77ae2600.png) (http://s24.photobucket.com/user/Yustax/media/IMG_20140222_200104_zps77ae2600.png.html)
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c49/Yustax/IMG_20140222_200256_zps85e11810.png) (http://s24.photobucket.com/user/Yustax/media/IMG_20140222_200256_zps85e11810.png.html)
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c49/Yustax/IMG_20140222_200123_zps6d398354.jpg) (http://s24.photobucket.com/user/Yustax/media/IMG_20140222_200123_zps6d398354.jpg.html)
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c49/Yustax/IMG_20140222_200211_zps1bdae307.jpg) (http://s24.photobucket.com/user/Yustax/media/IMG_20140222_200211_zps1bdae307.jpg.html)
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c49/Yustax/IMG_20140222_200237_zpsd3cf9ddc.jpg) (http://s24.photobucket.com/user/Yustax/media/IMG_20140222_200237_zpsd3cf9ddc.jpg.html)
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c49/Yustax/IMG_20140222_200308_zpsea66c42b.jpg) (http://s24.photobucket.com/user/Yustax/media/IMG_20140222_200308_zpsea66c42b.jpg.html)
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c49/Yustax/IMG_20140222_200336_zps44563e6f.jpg) (http://s24.photobucket.com/user/Yustax/media/IMG_20140222_200336_zps44563e6f.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 23-02-2014, 10:02:35
No 5 jungle carbine sights fetch twice the price as origenal sights here, so use that to your advantage, sell the jungle carbine sights, and use that money for no 4 sights and the barrel band.

What year/manufacturer is the No4? So that we can determine what sights you really need (The 300-1500meter sight or the dual flip 300-600 meter sight)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 23-02-2014, 11:02:20
You must mean  274.32m-1371.6m or 274.32m-548.64m sight  :-*
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 23-02-2014, 11:02:27
DONT U HAVE SOME SPAHYING TO DO?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Yustax on 24-02-2014, 00:02:11
No 5 jungle carbine sights fetch twice the price as origenal sights here, so use that to your advantage, sell the jungle carbine sights, and use that money for no 4 sights and the barrel band.

What year/manufacturer is the No4? So that we can determine what sights you really need (The 300-1500meter sight or the dual flip 300-600 meter sight)

Year of manufacture is weird. It says 1944 but there's a 5 over the 4 like if they had committed a typo. And I rather have the micrometer sights than the flip 300-600 because it places limitations, plus the micrometer default setting is 200 meters. I do need the MK1 forend nose cap but the only place I found it, they are out of stock so if you could link more places for a MK1 nose cap I would be grateful.

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 24-02-2014, 20:02:20
Where did you get the suncorite?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Yustax on 24-02-2014, 22:02:00
Where did you get the suncorite?

know a friend that has some. But this is comparable

http://aa-ok.com/black-gun-paint-british-black-gun-paint-16oz-aerosol.html
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 17-03-2014, 18:03:00
I have begun a quest to equip my 10 rifles of bayonets, slings and bandoleers. So far, 3/10 are complete (swedish mauser, K31 & Mosin nagant)
Today i got myself a Chilean mauser Bayonet for 40 euro. Fully serial matched, perfect condition.

Note: that ain' rust, that'be Cosmoline
(http://i60.tinypic.com/xaympz.jpg)
(http://i61.tinypic.com/2lmwayu.jpg)
(http://i62.tinypic.com/s1qipl.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 17-03-2014, 18:03:35
I got a question, did all mossin nagant model 1944 carbines have bayonets? what do you do if it does not have one attached?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Hockeywarrior on 13-04-2014, 09:04:28
Some K11 rifle action (and various Mosin Nagants) -- featuring a parking ticket massacre.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1pVV_EmSec&list=UUQK9lbdAEi9mAM5iGfHoeyA
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 13-04-2014, 12:04:15
And here I am, waiting 5 and a half months already for my licence on my k11...  :-\
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Hockeywarrior on 14-04-2014, 07:04:13
And here I am, waiting 5 and a half months already for my licence on my k11...  :-\
Heh my friend walked into a gunshow, found it, bought it, and walked out with it all in a span of 30 minutes. Sorry.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 15-04-2014, 22:04:32
No worries, i am not jelly, i have a lot of patience.

I am calling police for a check-up at the 6 months mark, Theta had his on 5 months so it cant be much longer.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: TASSER on 02-05-2014, 18:05:46
Great find or...?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/An-Exceptionally-Rare-WW2-Stowa-KM-German-Kriegsmarine-Deck-Pocket-Watch-c-1942-/331191397182?pt=UK_Collectables_Militaria_LE&hash=item4d1c8bab3e

From all the research I've been able to pour through it looks 100% authentic. My hesitation is on the price (ouch), and the rarity. I don't want to spend the money on it only to find out it has little in the way of value. Anyone have any books on German military watches they can look into?

I should also mention I requested images of the back of the case from the seller. It's complete with stamped numbers and the German military insignia one would expect from that era. Hat's off to the seller for the discretion in not posting pictures of that symbol.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 02-05-2014, 19:05:55
It seems really really expensive for a watch. from time to time i see regular WW2 watches go for a few hunderd euro, no more.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: luftwaffe.be on 02-05-2014, 19:05:51
To expensive. For that kind of money, you can buy a authentic 18th century pocket watch. These watches here are mass produced. I estimated the value between 100 and 250€ max
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: TASSER on 02-05-2014, 19:05:56
Great, thanks for the input guys! I may keep an eye on the watch and try to talk him down if he doesn't sell it in the next couple weeks.

I'm just not sure if the piece is genuinely quite rare and warrants the price.

Worst case scenario, I don't spend a ton of my money on a watch that will never leave my desk. Time will tell... (no pun intended)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: ksl94 on 02-05-2014, 20:05:38
Hint: I still sell that SMLE and the Black Watch NCO cap badge. There is a lot more, so if you need anything, please feel free to ask  ;D .
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Hockeywarrior on 07-05-2014, 05:05:09
Hey all! I'm back with another video, this time featuring my new Gew 88 Commission Rifle, plus my friend's Swiss rifle.

Enjoy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97PGqsID130&feature=gp-n-y
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 08-05-2014, 00:05:56
Hint: I still sell that SMLE and the Black Watch NCO cap badge. There is a lot more, so if you need anything, please feel free to ask  ;D .
Ooh you're selling an SMLE?  Are you in the States?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: ksl94 on 08-05-2014, 04:05:18
I am residing in Texas, indeed. I am happy to hear that you are interested in my SMLE. Here is the Armslist ad: http://www.armslist.com/posts/2799681/dallas-texas-rifles-for-sale--unissued-1943-lithgow-no-1-mk--iii--smle

Please let me know what you think  :D ! I also have a 1916 dated P-1907 Bayonet in similar shape in case you need it.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 11-05-2014, 01:05:16
I am now the proud new owner of a Mosin Nagant and am currently experiencing the joys of Cosmoline.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: ksl94 on 12-05-2014, 23:05:38
I was shocked to find myself becoming almost more enamoured of my Mosin than of my SMLE. Those are lovely. Believe me, this one of the finest and sturdiest rifles ever designed. Additionally ammunition is really cheap. I bought myself a box of 7.62x54r containing two 440rnd cans, luckily I got the chance to buy the Hungarian manufactured rounds. I am in a dilemma here: I want a Webley Mk. VI, I know that I could get a shaved one easily but there is no source for .45 ACP rounds loaded to .455 Mk. II specifications with the correct roundnose bullet. Does anyone of you gentlemen handload these and would mind to share a few with me? I would provide the brass for you, I have a lot of that. Also, if anyone needs a really nice 1916 dated Sanderson bayonet, just let me know. I am also always open for cheap .303 Mk. VII rounds. One nice thing about the Mosin is that almost every nation in the world used them at one time or another, be it regular issue or as a Beutegewehr.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 13-05-2014, 18:05:14
Argh, i hate the way the mossin looks!

Can't help much, isn't there a factory that still make them? i thought i saw some boxes of .455 that looked sort of recent. I don't handload, although i would like to. but i don't shoot enough to make it profitable.

I have a nice bayonet already buddy, no interest :)

Price here is 17 euro per 20 rounds, i don't think you want it at that price.

Try not to put 4 questions in 1 paragraph please. its a bit confusing.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: ksl94 on 13-05-2014, 18:05:52
Sorry for the lousy texture of my post  :-[ . In fact, Fiocchi still makes those but only in very limited amounts. I just found a die for the .455 roundnose bullet for $120, since I have tons of .45 ACP brass it might be time to start re-loading. I agree, the Mosin is a tad controversial when incomes to it's looks, either one likes it or one does not. I plan on going to the range on Thursday again to shoot my SMLE and hopefully soon my No. 4. Also, I do have a little problem here: The bore of my SMLE (the shooting/re-enacting one) is a tad rusty. It is not terrible, but it does keep me awake at night. There is an orange hue throughout it, but no "real" damage yet. Does anyone have any advice regarding this truly unpleasant occurrence? By the way, yes, I DO clean it properly.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 13-05-2014, 19:05:39
Could it be the copper that somehow coated the inside of the barrel? i have no clue here.
I always put a coating of oil in my barrel when i store them after cleaning and plug the end of the barrel so no light comes in, never had corrosion that way, don't forget to go true it with a brush though before shooting, you don't want to much oil in it when shooting.

aah, yes Fiocchi, they still make some obscure calibres from time to time.

If i am not mistaken the original lead nosed .455 are illegal since its basicly a dum dum. it needs a jacket.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: ksl94 on 13-05-2014, 22:05:03
Over here, you are welcome to use dum-dums as much as you please, including for carry. Most people who carry use expanding bullets only. The Mk. II bullet design should be fine in Belgium as well as in the rest of the world, since that is what we reverted to after we feared that the "Manstopper" bullet would violate the Hague convention. My armourer told me that the orange substance is rust indeed  :-\ .
After each firing session I clean the barrel with boiling water, then dry it and finally lubricate it with oil. The following five days, I run a clean patch through the bore and then re-apply the oil, strictly following the regulations and preventing corrosion to the best of my ability. Whenever I run out of military ammuntion, I use Prvi Partizan. I love their ammunition, but the original military ammunition still beats it  ;D !
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 13-05-2014, 22:05:55
Well, it might sound stupid, but when i shoot corrosive ammunition i always make sure that the last 10 are not corrosive. For some crazy reason i think it will clean out my barrel of any salts.

Maybe there was some moist left in the barrel? it did not dry enough after cleaning it with hot water.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Hockeywarrior on 14-05-2014, 03:05:28
Time for another shooting video! A couple of weeks back I took my 1890 Steyr Gewehr 1888/05 "Commission Rifle" out for a spin. This video is the result. It turned out to be a great shooter with a nice trigger!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97PGqsID130

I had some feeding issues, which I think might be caused by the slick lacquer coating on the cartridge cases or the feed latch spring being old and loose. My Gew 88 was sold to the Turks -- probably during WWI -- but still retains all of its original German imperial markings.

I'm still not sure on accuracy since it was only the first time out. The bore is in great shape but who knows with the ammo. I was shooting Romanian surplus through it, since it is loaded lighter than all other WWII surplus.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: ksl94 on 14-05-2014, 05:05:22
That is one great video, mate!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Hockeywarrior on 21-05-2014, 05:05:32
That is one great video, mate!
Thanks man! It was fun to make. I have another new possession to show you all! Behold: Russian 1895 Nagant Revolver, c.a. 1914!

(http://i.imgur.com/9yaVK8Z.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 21-05-2014, 19:05:32
Ooh, lucky you, that is a nice post war refurb! Mine is 1931 dated.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: ksl94 on 21-05-2014, 21:05:35
Now that I have finally acquired my Webley (I seriously almost cried of happiness, yes I love that grand revolver that much), I only need to re-place the missing front sight. Does anyone know where I may find one? Internet searches turned up with nothing, not even Numrich Gun Parts has it.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Hockeywarrior on 22-05-2014, 05:05:04
Ooh, lucky you, that is a nice post war refurb! Mine is 1931 dated.
How can you tell it was refurbished? Just curious. I honestly don't know too much about the service history of these revolvers.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 22-05-2014, 06:05:19
First of all, the russians refurbed all there weapons after WW2, second of all the condition is to nice for a holster weapen that saw 2 wars, third of all the front sight and grips is wrong, and probable the hammer also for a 1914 model.

Should look more like this:
(http://russianrevolvers.com/n_images/nagantrigc.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 22-05-2014, 19:05:31
Now that I have finally acquired my Webley (I seriously almost cried of happiness, yes I love that grand revolver that much), I only need to re-place the missing front sight. Does anyone know where I may find one? Internet searches turned up with nothing, not even Numrich Gun Parts has it.

Cant help, but buying an incomplete weapon that is 100 years old isn't that smart, some parts are just impossible to find. I would suggest going to gun shows and hope for the best. That is how i found my extractor spring for my lee enfield.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: ksl94 on 28-05-2014, 05:05:06
I just picked it up this afternoon and cannot stop caressing it  :-* . Thank you for your tip mate, I shall do that. I also have some excellent resources for such needs in my vicinity. Now I will have to get the ammo before I can start worrying about the front sight. By the way, it does lock up tightly. I love my Webley.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Hockeywarrior on 01-06-2014, 04:06:04
I just picked it up this afternoon and cannot stop caressing it  :-* . Thank you for your tip mate, I shall do that. I also have some excellent resources for such needs in my vicinity. Now I will have to get the ammo before I can start worrying about the front sight. By the way, it does lock up tightly. I love my Webley.
Heh yeah I feel the exact same way about my Nagant revolver! I'm taking it tomorrow actually.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: TheRevoluzer on 10-06-2014, 22:06:11
Hi,

I want to buy a Mauser K98k.
I found one at a local trader and searched the internet, why it has no bayonet lug.
http://www.austrojagd.com/gebrauchtwaffen-detail/2199/mauser-m-98
I found out, that it is a "Kriegsmodell".
So my two questions are:

What do you think of the condition / pricing by judging those two pictures?
and
Is it possible to mount a bayonet lug, so I can attach a bayonet to it?

Thanks in advance for your answers!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 10-06-2014, 22:06:37
If it is a kriegmodell, i highly advise NOT to mount a bayonet lug. Yes you can do this, and even without any damage, but if this rifle was made as a kriegsmodell, it should remain as so.

And no, it doesnt mean that it is russian or french captured, that it can be altered.  The only thing these countries did, was the removal of the sight hood & cleaning rod.

We need more information tough, but looking at the exterior condition, thats a good price.

We need to know manufacturer code (On reciever) and year, & barrel condition
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 10-06-2014, 23:06:20
Front sight hood is wrong, second barrel band is wrong, bolt should not be blued. Date should be 45, maybe 44 with that stock.

Looks like someone messed with it.

For a shooter you can buy, for a collector do not even poke it with a stick.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: TheRevoluzer on 11-06-2014, 09:06:13
I'd like to use this rifle for wildboar hunting - so the collectors worth is a minor issue.
Non the less, I want to own a pretty decent K98.
The stock looks pretty good which caught my attention.
All the other available rifles have have a much more "used" look.

http://www.kettner.com/at_de/waffen/gebrauchtwaffen-1/repetierbuchsen/rep-mauser-98.html
http://www.kettner.com/at_de/waffen/gebrauchtwaffen-1/repetierbuchsen/mauser-105.html

This last one also looks interesting:
http://www.kettner.com/at_de/waffen/gebrauchtwaffen-1/repetierbuchsen/mauser-103.html
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 11-06-2014, 09:06:45
Well, these look nice.

The first one is a spanish model 1943 mauser with bayonet. Note that the bayonet is the same one that they cut John Rambo with in the first movie when he is tortured in vietnam.

The second one looks like a nice Gew98b, some sort of upgraded Gew98 done in the 1920's Export model mauser, cant tell the country without seeing the crest, many possibilities although not in the calibre, to lazy to check all of the hundreds of models of mauser in my books to find out for you. Edit: probably a turkish model 1903 mauser. What little that i see on the crest seems turkish, the calibre also is correct.

The third one looks like a mid production K98k.

All 3 look good to me.
All rifles of this era should have a used look, they went through a war and over 70 years of lifespan.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: TheRevoluzer on 11-06-2014, 17:06:30
Thanks for your advice.  :)
If the third rifle is in good condition for shooting (clean barrel and working system) I gonna buy it.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 11-06-2014, 18:06:05
If you gonna use it for hunting

dont you goddamnit dare, to alter the rifle in any way...

The only thing we can accept, is a non-permament scope mount, the ones mounted on the rear sight ladder.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: ksl94 on 11-06-2014, 18:06:22
I would like to emphasise what TheTa said. If you modifiy it, you will find yourself castrated with a dull butter knife  ;D . On a more serious note, I hope that you will enjoy your new rifle!
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 11-06-2014, 18:06:26
I would like to emphasise what TheTa said. If you modifiy it, you will find yourself castrated with a dull butter knife  ;D . On a more serious note, I hope that you will enjoy your new rifle!
^This

We absolutely, do not support sporterizing here. Not even COld war era firearms should be butchered like this. We can embrace NON damaging modifications. But thats it
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: TheRevoluzer on 11-06-2014, 19:06:15
Well, it is not in my mind to modify a good old K98k.   ;D
There are tons of rifles out there which already have a scope mounted and will cost less than modifying such a rifle.  ;)
But this is another story and going to far off.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 11-06-2014, 23:06:05
Well, the prices seem really democratic so no complains there, let us know what it became and share some pictures.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: TheRevoluzer on 13-06-2014, 15:06:07
Today I called the shop, if they still have the K98 rifle and they told me, it was sold 3 weeks ago...  :P
Maybe I can grab another one. My neighbor has a K98 sniper which his father kept after the war was over.
Otherwise my search goes on...

Found something else for 250€
http://www.austrojagd.com/img/gebrauchtwaffen/2181_image_1.JPG
Looks like it is new...
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 13-06-2014, 16:06:05
Because it is. It can be made wartime, and never used, or used and then refurbished and put in the arsenal.
Most russian weapons that you buy are in perfect condition. Not a dent or a scratch.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Hockeywarrior on 15-06-2014, 03:06:38
Because it is. It can be made wartime, and never used, or used and then refurbished and put in the arsenal.
Most russian weapons that you buy are in perfect condition. Not a dent or a scratch.
Honestly that one looks like it was refurbished by a past owner. It appears to have had the shellac removed and replaced with some kind of oil finish. Looks nice but isn't consistent with the Russian factory refurbs I've seen.

Speaking of Russian rifles, I took my Finnish M91 out to the range today. My friend brought his M44 carbine. Good times were had. Video below ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOeR64OH-Vs&list=UUQK9lbdAEi9mAM5iGfHoeyA
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 29-06-2014, 15:06:32
New find.
These suckers are hard to come by
(http://imgup.com/data/images/19103.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: th_battleaxe on 29-06-2014, 17:06:07
Looks nice. Pre-WW1 Mauser bayonet?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 29-06-2014, 17:06:44
Looks nice. Pre-WW1 Mauser bayonet?

WW1 era Italian model 1891 bayonet with brass and leather Scabbard. Still looking for one with full steel Scabbard now for my WW2 dated Cracano. Also i still need a model 1938 bayonet (folding, non folding, don't care) also for the m38 Carcano.

Carcano thing are hard to find here in General.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Turkish007 on 08-07-2014, 10:07:12
Check out what I got for myself:

(http://media.moddb.com/cache/images/members/2/1090/1089506/thumb_620x2000/uniform.jpeg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: MaJ.P.Bouras on 08-07-2014, 10:07:58
Starting your military service ?
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Turkish007 on 08-07-2014, 12:07:42
Nope, its just Turkish army surplus that I bought from an outdoor/military gear store, I still have five years or so before they call me to service.  :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Sgt.KAR98 on 09-07-2014, 11:07:11
Guys,I need to know ASAP if there is a surplus store in Stockholm.Found some in Sweden but all are way up north.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 09-07-2014, 23:07:32
I was wondering if any Belgian or Dutchy is interested in buying this book from me.
It is basicly a book about WW2 from start to finish including the trails and written and printed in 1947. about 1200 A4 sized pages, and it has quite a lot of pictures. Written by a bunch of news reporters, professors and doctors back in the day.

(http://imgup.com/data/images/19585.jpg)
(http://imgup.com/data/images/19586.jpg)

I don't really have intention to read it so there is no point keeping it. I can trade it for an orange € bill.

Not my auction, but to give an idea.
http://veiling.catawiki.be/kavels/185323-tweede-wereldoorlog-henri-liebrecht-geschiedenis-van-de-oorlog-der-verenigde-naties-2-delen-1947
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Nilsson on 11-07-2014, 20:07:42
Guys,I need to know ASAP if there is a surplus store in Stockholm.Found some in Sweden but all are way up north.

Might be late, but it's the best I can do: http://www.rodastjarnan.com/butik (http://www.rodastjarnan.com/butik)
Address Drottningholmsvägen 17, 112 42 STOCKHOLM

It's at Kungsholmen, same island as City hall.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: FORGOTTENKEVINOHOPE on 11-07-2014, 22:07:18
I was wondering if any Belgian or Dutchy is interested in buying this book from me.
It is basicly a book about WW2 from start to finish including the trails and written and printed in 1947. about 1200 A4 sized pages, and it has quite a lot of pictures. Written by a bunch of news reporters, professors and doctors back in the day.

(http://imgup.com/data/images/19585.jpg)
(http://imgup.com/data/images/19586.jpg)

I don't really have intention to read it so there is no point keeping it. I can trade it for an orange € bill.

Not my auction, but to give an idea.
http://veiling.catawiki.be/kavels/185323-tweede-wereldoorlog-henri-liebrecht-geschiedenis-van-de-oorlog-der-verenigde-naties-2-delen-1947

just wondering what you have in that pill blister pack?    8 of them left  :)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 11-07-2014, 22:07:15
Its 5mg tablets of levocetirizine dihydrochloride.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levocetirizine
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: FORGOTTENKEVINOHOPE on 11-07-2014, 22:07:56
assume its for allergies?   i have allergies  in spring and summer,   allegra usually works for  me for the most part...
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Fuchs on 12-07-2014, 00:07:32
Classy snob, I use the plebeian version, cetirizine-dihydrocholride. Around 1 Euro per pack at the Lidl and the pack usually lasts a week. Still the most effective hay fever meds I've had this past decade.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 12-07-2014, 12:07:02
Its prescription only here, buy it is in boxes of 100 for about 5.73 euro. Add a 4 euro doctor visit to that and it is still cheap.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 23-07-2014, 20:07:36
Really nice Notek light for my VW Type 82E project!

Sadly its a repro, but extremly well made!

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20140723_170815.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20140723_170815.jpg.html)

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20140723_171703.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20140723_171703.jpg.html)

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20140723_170726.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20140723_170726.jpg.html)

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20140723_171853.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20140723_171853.jpg.html)

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20140723_173934.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20140723_173934.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Hockeywarrior on 01-08-2014, 08:08:52
Another month, another shooting video. Here's one of friends an I firing my Gewehr 1888, Finnish Mosin M91, and my friend's M1 Garand. It was a great time, despite the muggy/wet conditions. Be sure to watch til the end -- there's some Garand rapid fire in there!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-BQCOJafXg
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: mopskind on 16-09-2014, 12:09:13
Hey guys, some family heirlooms. I know most of the medals, but which one is the silver one with the blue ribbon and the little needle on the right?

(http://i07t.imgup.net/20140916_18348.jpg) (http://i07i.imgup.net/20140916_18348.jpg)

(http://n04t.imgup.net/20140916_138fd.jpg) (http://n04i.imgup.net/20140916_138fd.jpg)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Mayhemic.MAD on 16-09-2014, 14:09:42
The blue one is the https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treudienst-Ehrenzeichen which was awarded to all officials, employees, and laborers at any level of the public service (local, regional or national) who complete 25 or 40 years service we eligible.

The pin seems to be soccer related, so I guess it´s the "Österreichischer Fussball Verband". http://www.catawiki.de/catalog/anstecknadel-pins-und-buttons/sorten/anstecknadeln/2854247-ofv
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: mopskind on 18-09-2014, 12:09:45
Aw yiss! Thanks man! That needle was a mistery to me
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 18-09-2014, 21:09:42
The rebirth of a Lafette. (yugo)

Got a lafette a few days ago, in bit of a.. not to good condition, though this is about to change! Everything works on it. Atleast after i went over the parts.

Theme will be early war grey & brown. We got an original in our group that have this theme under the green repaint.

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20140918_174412.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20140918_174412.jpg.html)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20140918_174405.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20140918_174405.jpg.html)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20140918_174359.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20140918_174359.jpg.html)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20140917_195909.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20140917_195909.jpg.html)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20140917_195526.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20140917_195526.jpg.html)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20140917_185211.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20140917_185211.jpg.html)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20140917_185205.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20140917_185205.jpg.html)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20140917_185159.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20140917_185159.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Eat Uranium on 02-02-2015, 00:02:45
So, hidden away in my Grandfather's house were 3 gas masks.  2 of them are British civilan issue ones, of which one is in a metal tube and the other a leather effect bag.  The third one is as far as I can tell from the writing on it from Poland, but I can't find any further info about it on the net.

I currently have them shoved inside a plastic bag because of asbestos, but I'll try and get some pictures of them at some point if there is someone knowledgeable about Polish masks.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 02-02-2015, 19:02:48
The filters probably contain asbestor, right, but there is 0% danger unless you cut them open and go breathing it in.

Basicely every living person up until not to long ago breathed through those asbestos filters when they where conscrips. They don't all die at age 40 now do they.

People are overcareful when it comes to asbestos. only the dust is dangerous when you are working with it, if you don't touch it its a safe as anything else. Probably a lot safer as lets say the smell that is in your car the first few months after you buy it. Or that smell of a new magazine or book. or any other solvent.

Pictures would be nice to have.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Eat Uranium on 02-02-2015, 19:02:51
Yeah, I'm not taking chances.  Still, I'll try and take some photos of them at the weekend.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Mayhemic.MAD on 12-02-2015, 17:02:04
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-KS_UT5YijNA/VNygfBZOIMI/AAAAAAAAVjk/9oOtYRFkMvQ/w1207-h905-no/20150211_235652.jpg)
Anyone here able to tell me what this is?
I can´t find anything similar looking when I search for "ottoman empire medal" or just "medal red star half moon"
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Korsakov829 on 12-02-2015, 23:02:48
Before 1944, most likely pinned on to a dress uniform. Is there anything on the back of it, like bits of broken metal where there might have been a backing?

Could be Egyptian even, with those three star-crescents... either way it's a low profile medal, never seen anything like it.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Eat Uranium on 14-02-2015, 19:02:01
Pictures would be nice to have.
http://imgur.com/a/ap8Jw (http://imgur.com/a/ap8Jw)
Pictures of the masks and of my No.4 bayonet.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Seth_Soldier on 14-02-2015, 20:02:58
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-KS_UT5YijNA/VNygfBZOIMI/AAAAAAAAVjk/9oOtYRFkMvQ/w1207-h905-no/20150211_235652.jpg)
Anyone here able to tell me what this is?
I can´t find anything similar looking when I search for "ottoman empire medal" or just "medal red star half moon"

This is certainly an ottoman item. (star + half moon)
But identifying it is difficult, nothing on the back ?
Maybe it's not a military medal
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Mayhemic.MAD on 15-02-2015, 21:02:10
No, nothing on the back. Also it´s very cheaply made. Thin metal, that you can easily bend.
I just wonder how it got into my grandfathers possessions. He never was in or near Turkey, afaik.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: sn00x on 19-02-2015, 02:02:23
Badass AN/PRC-77, gonna be awesome to use this to communicate with the other cars on our Germany/Netherlands trip this summer!

Uses 14v batteries (wich i got tonns of), though its gonna be hooked up the 12v output wich works just fine on these radios.

Not sure how i want to do the antenne yet, inside or outside.. decisions..

(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/20150218_225958.jpg) (http://s278.photobucket.com/user/Daedra08/media/20150218_225958.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Krätzer on 04-04-2015, 18:04:22
I have some questions to our nicely informed people.

Which Uniforms were worn in Normandy 1944/45 by the Wehrmacht?
M42 or M43?

Or better late 1944 in the Netherlands, Overloon.

So it´s about the 107. Panzerbrigade.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: VonMudra on 04-04-2015, 20:04:44
M36, M40, M43, some M44 and some units like Panzer Lehr were wearing Assault wraps for the infantry.  Basically any combat uniform of the war.  Hell, in the Netherlands, you even see some Reichswehr and modified Dutch tunics popping up.  The Germans reissued everything, and some companies simply never stopped making the earlier models.  One should remember that no tunic was ever phased out officially, they just wore out.  The German army updated the look of the tunic in order to make things easier on manufacturers, but there was NEVER an order to change uniforms or even to force manufacturers to produce a specific model if they didn't have to/want to.  This goes for all German uniform parts- many things considered 'early war' were still being produced into 1944 and 1945, including M36 and M40 helmets, pony packs, etc.

M43 and M40 tunics WOULD have been most common by 1944, but there were plenty of guys still being issued or wearing their original M36 tunics.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Seth_Soldier on 22-05-2015, 22:05:54
 :) i have an old and half-rusty  M40 german helmet, and i was wondering about how and how much would it costs to add a liner +/chin traps to it.
Just for the fun !
thx !
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 23-05-2015, 11:05:51
One of my friends was searching his passed away grandfathers attic and he came across a german helmet. He called me, and i knew it was an origenal luftwaffe helmet. Upon arrival in Mol, it indeed was a luftwaffe helmet! M 42 model to be exact with a single decal. We already found a buyer in 1 hour (as he needed the money to replace his worn car, and his grandfather left in his will that if he could do whatever with his stuff what he wants) and he got 1500 euro for it! Jesus christ...

And i recieved 50 euro for it, for just searching a bit.

Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Seth_Soldier on 23-05-2015, 12:05:39
 ;) do not worry, i don't want to sell it.
I just want to add an interior to it (and maybe a camo ? the helmet, like many, was used by my familly for chicken food bowl so paint is worn out) for the fun to have a presentable ww2 helmet and not just a piece of junk.

Checking the internet,a replica of m40 liner would be cheap if i use a finnish liner but i don't know if it is the best solution etc ...
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 23-05-2015, 14:05:34
(and maybe a camo ? the helmet, like many, was used by my familly for chicken food bowl so paint is worn out)
Hahaha I know that,my family used spoon from 1991-1995 war for giving food to little chicken so I was :(
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 23-05-2015, 15:05:24
One of my friends was searching his passed away grandfathers attic and he came across a german helmet. He called me, and i knew it was an origenal luftwaffe helmet. Upon arrival in Mol, it indeed was a luftwaffe helmet! M 42 model to be exact with a single decal. We already found a buyer in 1 hour (as he needed the money to replace his worn car, and his grandfather left in his will that if he could do whatever with his stuff what he wants) and he got 1500 euro for it! Jesus christ...

And i recieved 50 euro for it, for just searching a bit.

Really? are you sure? retail for great luftwaffe helmet with 1 decal is about 500 to 800 euro to my knowledge.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 24-05-2015, 12:05:56
One of my friends was searching his passed away grandfathers attic and he came across a german helmet. He called me, and i knew it was an origenal luftwaffe helmet. Upon arrival in Mol, it indeed was a luftwaffe helmet! M 42 model to be exact with a single decal. We already found a buyer in 1 hour (as he needed the money to replace his worn car, and his grandfather left in his will that if he could do whatever with his stuff what he wants) and he got 1500 euro for it! Jesus christ...

And i recieved 50 euro for it, for just searching a bit.

Really? are you sure? retail for great luftwaffe helmet with 1 decal is about 500 to 800 euro to my knowledge.
My buddy said 1800 euro, the guy who bought it said 1500. If it sells, it sells :D  i have now 50 euro extra to spend on graspop Metal meeting
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Mayhemic.MAD on 23-09-2015, 20:09:27
Luftwaffe Trench Art - A ashtray made by my grandfather during the war.
https://goo.gl/photos/PJvAML3q5HE2P45g6 (https://goo.gl/photos/PJvAML3q5HE2P45g6)

The bottom seems to be made from the shell casing of a 88mm flak round, the center part likely was a casing for 20mm projectiles, since there is a 20mm projectile attached to the side with a AZ5045 impact fuse on top. The darkened yellow color likely means it´s HE, which I think all had tracers.
Don´t know what the planes are supposed to be though.

The stamp on the bottom of the flak shell says (clockwise from top) "59 - 1936 - Wa A2.38 (eagle icon) 6347 - P94"
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: Born2Kill 007 on 07-08-2016, 15:08:06
Recently came across some hydrophilic gauze from the Belgian Army dated 1940. Is this worth anything, or is it just a collectors piece that you keep in some desk?
In attachment is the front of the enveloppe
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: siben on 07-08-2016, 18:08:39
Rare enough for me to have never seen in my life while i live in Belgium. I don't think there are many collectors of Belgian gear outside of Belgium let alone Belgian medical gear, cool to have, rare but little value. I guess the same or a bit more then the price of the German, British, French and American bandages, between 10 and 20 euro maybe.
Title: Re: Militaria
Post by: THeTA0123 on 07-08-2016, 20:08:12
Talk to me on steam, i have an idea to get you the most money for your stuff