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Offline naoko

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sdkfz251 fortress
« on: 03-01-2010, 04:01:42 »
sdkfz251 should be like walking fortress. The passenger can stand up to fire or duck to hide. that why sdkfz251 have open roof.
http://www.sdkfz251.com/images/german_halftrack_conversion_1.jpg

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Re: sdkfz251 fortress
« Reply #1 on: 03-01-2010, 05:01:56 »
sdkfz251 should be like walking fortress. The passenger can stand up to fire or duck to hide. that why sdkfz251 have open roof.
http://www.sdkfz251.com/images/german_halftrack_conversion_1.jpg

Dont know if the engine could handle it, but this would be useful to protect both flanks of the half track.

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Re: sdkfz251 fortress
« Reply #2 on: 03-01-2010, 05:01:20 »
Basically a correct statement.  The little lip on the end of the MP40 barrel is meant to hook onto the sides of the hanomag, and the bipods of MGs could also be thrown over the side, letting them pull back and hook onto the sides.

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Re: sdkfz251 fortress
« Reply #3 on: 03-01-2010, 05:01:39 »
Theres a problem.

When you are inside a vehicle, crewing it, and you shot, the Vehicle wont stop the bullet at all. So, when you duck and you see the Side Metal plates in your face, no matter what you do, your bullets would go trough the Armor, hit the Enemy, and you can kill them.

Its a total Exploit. BUT, im not sure, i think in vanilla i used to do this on the Humvee, i managed to get some kills by shooting straight where the enemy is.


Thats why you cant kill your own Stuka with the Rear MG, you cant kill yourself with a Pz III N, etc.


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Re: sdkfz251 fortress
« Reply #4 on: 03-01-2010, 05:01:54 »
You can already shoot in the hanomag, you just can't see over the sides at all:P

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Re: sdkfz251 fortress
« Reply #5 on: 03-01-2010, 05:01:27 »
could it be possible to reverse the crouch, so default is sitting inside, and when you press crouch, you stand up?

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Re: sdkfz251 fortress
« Reply #6 on: 03-01-2010, 06:01:55 »
Yea!
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Re: sdkfz251 fortress
« Reply #7 on: 03-01-2010, 06:01:04 »
I think it's a cool idea, and I believe that the concept is already in the BF2 engine, such as the ability to stand up and crouch down on a mounted Machinegun

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Re: sdkfz251 fortress
« Reply #8 on: 03-01-2010, 08:01:05 »
sdkfz251 should be like walking fortress. The passenger can stand up to fire or duck to hide. that why sdkfz251 have open roof.
http://www.sdkfz251.com/images/german_halftrack_conversion_1.jpg

That would be cool since the rear MG only has a slight range of travel making it basically useless. I can tell you we do this all of the time reenacting. We use a 251/9 D model with a rear MG 34or 42. The MG is basically useless against close range targets out of your field of fire unless you are standing and fighting with small arms.

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Re: sdkfz251 fortress
« Reply #9 on: 03-01-2010, 09:01:20 »
Would be cool if possible.

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Re: sdkfz251 fortress
« Reply #10 on: 03-01-2010, 10:01:20 »
Has anyone actually crouched behind a static MG? You'll notice you can't fire while crouched. Problem would be you're not using a static gun, but the crouch-feature might still be addable. Definately worth the 10min of trial and error ;)
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Re: sdkfz251 fortress
« Reply #11 on: 03-01-2010, 14:01:38 »
Basically a correct statement.  The little lip on the end of the MP40 barrel is meant to hook onto the sides of the hanomag, and the bipods of MGs could also be thrown over the side, letting them pull back and hook onto the sides.
Indeed, that was one of the design features of the MP40, to be able to be fired from a AFV
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Re: sdkfz251 fortress
« Reply #12 on: 04-01-2010, 08:01:36 »
silly question... but cant you just jump in to the back without pressing "E"?,,, simply stand there, and crouch if you like.... ???

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Re: sdkfz251 fortress
« Reply #13 on: 04-01-2010, 09:01:41 »
silly question... but cant you just jump in to the back without pressing "E"?,,, simply stand there, and crouch if you like.... ???

you got to try that in the middle of battle yourself...

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Re: sdkfz251 fortress
« Reply #14 on: 04-01-2010, 13:01:56 »
silly question... but cant you just jump in to the back without pressing "E"?,,, simply stand there, and crouch if you like.... ???

no i thing. jump in to is more difficult...especially when the enemy attack you. And one thing all half track vehicle in FH2 is easy to destroyed when someone shot whit bazoka. One shot all passenger die...doh!