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Announcements => Announcements => Topic started by: azreal on 26-12-2010, 22:12:24
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Hope everyone is having a good holiday season. Update coming within the hour.
**note: this is NOT the special announcement!**
Christmas with Christoff
Enjoy!
http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/main.php?lang=english
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So announcements will be posted up here from now on?
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Announcements on announcement section, who would guess that? ;)
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So announcements will be posted up here from now on?
Yes!
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I think its cool. IIRC, a fear years ago Updates were posted directly on Announcements section, FileFront or something.
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Woohoo can't wait! :)
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No teaser or a title?
ah well
40~ secs to go
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W00t German BIAS :D :D :D
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I like it! ;D
Theta's gonna flip :D
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wow outstanding good models!
All SS models are very good detailed and realistic looking. Also the splitter tarn has the right colour and sheme!!!! Also the white stuff is nice detailed and dirty.
So I guess we wont see any coats?
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Very good work at these playermodels. They look awesome!
And gratulations to the team for winning the MOTY 2010!
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Damn great models.
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outstanding ! =D
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Very nice models! Thanks for this great update. (http://chopard.fest4.free.fr/emoticons/army/armata/armata_PDT_37.gif)
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Very nice models, they look incredible; when they are released I might spent some time adding SS runes for more realism. Anyway, too bad that there's no coats; the MG player would look badass like this:
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c49/Yustax/frund2.jpg)
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All SS models are very good detailed and realistic looking. Also the splitter tarn has the right colour and sheme!!!! Also the white stuff is nice detailed and dirty.
Glad to hear that. There was a lot of torture involved getting it right in time for the Christmas news (hence the slight delay). Special thanks to Knoffhoff for the research and camo templates. :)
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The winter gear looks awsom-0.
Also, those missing the long or "greatcoats", modelling and animating them might have been more difficult than it would have been worth in the end.
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Yeah I think it would take new animations to get those in.
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(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:fabhkZha-FL9PM:http://static.funnyjunk.com/CommentPhoto/43af7c49_d8ce_19b1.jpg&t=1)
Shall i say it?
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lol ;D
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They are great...
Great update!
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lookin' good!
now the American ones! :D
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Great update once again.
Very detailed models. Congrats. 8)
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that is wonderfull :D :D :D
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Also, those missing the long or "greatcoats", modelling and animating them might have been more difficult than it would have been worth in the end.
Correct, this has proven to be pretty much impossible in BF2.
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Great models again. :)
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Really outstanding playermodells :D
Do the Americans also get some winterclothing, or will they be "just" reskinned?
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Really outstanding playermodells :D
Do the Americans also get some winterclothing, or will they be "just" reskinned?
I sure hope not...
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Also, those missing the long or "greatcoats", modelling and animating them might have been more difficult than it would have been worth in the end.
Correct, this has proven to be pretty much impossible in BF2.
wellm its possible to animate a raptor ingame, so i guess trench coat is not enteraly impossible, just time consuming :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwXw4HKWpUE
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:)
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Are you seriously comparing a raptor to a... oh to hell with it, yes you are. :-\
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Thanks for the kind words. :)
You can have many different animated playermodels in bf2. but not at the same time. We are only allowed to have 1 Set of Bones ( you need those for animations) at one Time. I saw running horse in BF2 engine before but again. Horse or Human! what do you want? ;D
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WW2 was secretly fought by centaurs with guns...
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polish calavary? ^^
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Also, those missing the long or "greatcoats", modelling and animating them might have been more difficult than it would have been worth in the end.
Correct, this has proven to be pretty much impossible in BF2.
wellm its possible to animate a raptor ingame, so i guess trench coat is not enteraly impossible, just time consuming :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwXw4HKWpUE
so that means..
Germans on wolves?
Russians on bears?
Americans on buffalo's?
Canucks on Mooses?
British on horses?
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Also, those missing the long or "greatcoats", modelling and animating them might have been more difficult than it would have been worth in the end.
Correct, this has proven to be pretty much impossible in BF2.
wellm its possible to animate a raptor ingame, so i guess trench coat is not enteraly impossible, just time consuming :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwXw4HKWpUE
so that means..
Germans on wolves?
Russians on bears?
Americans on buffalo's?
Canucks on Mooses?
British on horses?
theta on crack?
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^Just Theta trying to be funny again.
;)
Anyway, nice news update! Short and sweet, but showing excellent new stuff in an awesome quality! I really love that white-washed helmet and the different camouflage suits. Unfortunately no great coats, but you don´t always get what you want.
I wonder, though, if these models can be used on the Eastern Front, too? :D
Can´t wait for the "big announcement", too!
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They could be used for late eastern front I suppose.
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Americans on buffalo's?
Buffalos don't live in America - they're bisons.
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They could be used for late eastern front I suppose.
(http://morefamilyguy.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/fm2060family-guy-quagmire-posters.jpg)
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Americans on buffalo's?
Buffalos don't live in America - they're bisons.
Why did he spell every word right but used the ' on buffalos??
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well done. Very lovely.
(http://mfpilot.com/ebaypics/Tamiya36304GermanInfantryman.jpg)
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well, the bf2 anitmations could be tweaked abit imo, they walk, jog, run so damn silly
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wow, those models look good ! great work !
hope to see them in-game soon ;D
Coats would have been nice, but I think we can do without it until someone has too much time hopefully.
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WOW! 8)
This playermodel looks very impressive.
I wish you all nice holidays guys (well if you have.. I got to speed up and get to work, ohoh) ;D
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IIRC BGF made greatcoats, and they were pretty cool
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The only things the models are missing are mitts or gloves for the Germans. The Americans can go without then since they were short on proper winter clothing. (if I'm not too wrong about that)
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Nice update :)
Who exports the soldiers in FH2 ? Is it Gunnie aka TrahnLee ? (I ask, but I could take a look at the .con files of the soldiers...:P)
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Great update!! The models look badass. Do they have a new face ?
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I love the models :-)!!
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The only things the models are missing are mitts or gloves for the Germans. The Americans can go without then since they were short on proper winter clothing. (if I'm not too wrong about that)
These where the men of the 101st airborne. The american troops in the bulge where mostly equipped with winter clothing. The problem was that it was like a resort. A place where troops could take a breather from the combat, as nobody expected that the germans would dare to attack via the ardennes
Deja vu on that last verse anyone?
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in war you always have to expect everything...
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Nice update :)
Who exports the soldiers in FH2 ? Is it Gunnie aka TrahnLee ? (I ask, but I could take a look at the .con files of the soldiers...:P)
Most of them by me. There's little coding involved, most of the time is spend (or rather wasted) on restarting bf2editor between exports, to check if the vertex weights look ok. Tweaking the vertex weights is a difficult process because BF2 supports only one vertex weighted to two bones. That's why some FH2 skins look warped a bit in some poses, especially near the crotch are, and this is also what would make long trench coats warp.
Another problem is that many of the BF2 animations have very strange poses. The BF2 player models look reasonable in these poses because their player models have much fewer polygons than ours, so there are less distortions near joints.
Anyway, recently I've added animation playback to BfMeshView, which should significantly improve our player model export work flow (and yes there will soon be a new BfMeshView release).
Do they have a new face ?
Nope, the heads are the same as Normandy Heer/SS. But maybe I'll do some minor reskins to give them a slightly paler skin color and red cheeks/nose. :)
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maybe add them a three day beard to make them look exhausteder?
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Nice update :)
Who exports the soldiers in FH2 ? Is it Gunnie aka TrahnLee ? (I ask, but I could take a look at the .con files of the soldiers...:P)
Most of them by me. There's little coding involved, most of the time is spend (or rather wasted) on restarting bf2editor between exports, to check if the vertex weights look ok. Tweaking the vertex weights is a difficult process because BF2 supports only one vertex weighted to two bones. That's why some FH2 skins look warped a bit in some poses, especially near the crotch are, and this is also what would make long trench coats warp.
Another problem is that many of the BF2 animations have very strange poses. The BF2 player models look reasonable in these poses because their player models have much fewer polygons than ours, so there are less distortions near joints.
Anyway, recently I've added animation playback to BfMeshView, which should significantly improve our player model export work flow (and yes there will soon be a new BfMeshView release).
Ah, Remdul, the one who makes modders' life easier. :)
I have seen recently that you have made a new script to import colmeshes, it will be quite useful for me, since sometimes I have to modify exports and I don't have any export scene to work on.
Thanks for your answer. I have never had the chance to export soldiers (since Project Reality prefers using existing vbf2 models), it sounds to be the hardest thing to export in BF2.
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Those German winter uniforms look awesome!!!
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Those models sure look awesome! :)
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It still misses something
*looks at his Allied things still missing list and italian things still missing list
Ahh that!
I do understand now why the germans used half white, half regular army camoflage.
We went on our own winter offensive airsofting yesterday. Some guys had full white the others full regular outfits. And both dint worked properly
exept when it went dark, then the Full army costumes where actually better then the full white
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tao: the german winter uniform was reversable. Outside it was camo, and inside it was white.
And it is better to have a mixed outfit. Clear white will stick out easier then little white and little camo.
And why they got half white half camo? Well maybe the uniform was so dirty, maybe this soldier liked white better. Why? there is not always an answer:P
ome guys had full white the others full regular outfits. And both dint worked properly
so half half is good. And on the distance you play airsoft (I play airsoft too so i know what im talking about) camo makes almost no sence.
(btw I have to tell Tao is right, we need some allied stuff now :P )
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Would be really cool if most of the playermodels had some stubble.
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Wow! They do indeed look awesome! However, isnt it à bit too cold with bare hands :p
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Wow! They do indeed look awesome! However, isnt it à bit too cold with bare hands :p
That's what i thought, too :P
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tao: the german winter uniform was reversable. Outside it was camo, and inside it was white.
And it is better to have a mixed outfit. Clear white will stick out easier then little white and little camo.
And why they got half white half camo? Well maybe the uniform was so dirty, maybe this soldier liked white better. Why? there is not always an answer:P
ome guys had full white the others full regular outfits. And both dint worked properly
so half half is good. And on the distance you play airsoft (I play airsoft too so i know what im talking about) camo makes almost no sence.
(btw I have to tell Tao is right, we need some allied stuff now :P )
actually camo DID was important yesterday.
And ofcourse i am right dammit. 4 german biased updates with still no sign of any still important missing allied vehicles!
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What is important?
T-34
KV-1
IS-2...
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What is important?
T-34
KV-1
IS-2...
Oh snap!
Reskinned Stuart is important.
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i think he wants the spitfire which can be used on one map. then churchill MK VII, scout car, wathever.
Too bad WW2 was german biased.
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I donno tao, you are complaining all time that there is no allied stuff, instead of being happy that we get news at least. remeber there was a time where got 1 news per months, and in last time we get really some kind of "weekley news". Be happy. I think there is a lot of alleid stuff in the backround, and they wait for the right moment( maybe the moment when you stop your "BIAS" stuff" ^^
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tao: the german winter uniform was reversable. Outside it was camo, and inside it was white.
And it is better to have a mixed outfit. Clear white will stick out easier then little white and little camo.
And why they got half white half camo? Well maybe the uniform was so dirty, maybe this soldier liked white better. Why? there is not always an answer:P
ome guys had full white the others full regular outfits. And both dint worked properly
so half half is good. And on the distance you play airsoft (I play airsoft too so i know what im talking about) camo makes almost no sence.
(btw I have to tell Tao is right, we need some allied stuff now :P )
actually camo DID was important yesterday.
And ofcourse i am right dammit. 4 german biased updates with still no sign of any still important missing allied vehicles!
you guys dont need Anything.. if the maps dont need a new allied vehicle, you wont get one :) face it ffs, the germans had more vehicles spread around :)
im so tired seeing the Same people complaining over and over again
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tao: the german winter uniform was reversable. Outside it was camo, and inside it was white.
And it is better to have a mixed outfit. Clear white will stick out easier then little white and little camo.
And why they got half white half camo? Well maybe the uniform was so dirty, maybe this soldier liked white better. Why? there is not always an answer:P
ome guys had full white the others full regular outfits. And both dint worked properly
so half half is good. And on the distance you play airsoft (I play airsoft too so i know what im talking about) camo makes almost no sence.
(btw I have to tell Tao is right, we need some allied stuff now :P )
actually camo DID was important yesterday.
And ofcourse i am right dammit. 4 german biased updates with still no sign of any still important missing allied vehicles!
you guys dont need Anything.. if the maps dont need a new allied vehicle, you wont get one :) face it ffs, the germans had more vehicles spread around :)
im so tired seeing the Same people complaining over and over again
explain then why the 111 pumas get added yet no Thousands of Humbers , T17 staghounds and Dingo's?
Mapper needs to request them? how can you miss the famous action of the 11th hussars at Villers bocage?
Or the Famous King force at el alamein? It was those churchills that captured AND defended Kidney ridge. As since it has been said in the past that a certain vehicle can only be added if it played major contribution to the battle (like tiger at mareth).
That sentence is just rubbish.Sorry.
All the fancy and super rare german stuff gets added, yet not the more common allied stuff. I can give you dozens of examples.
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Enough about the Puma's and churchills already. That verse is old.
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It is old, yet still true.
Everytime i got answers like=It needs sufficient numbers. Or it needs to be present on the map, Or played a major contribution
Yet when you still bring that, you still get the same old answer.
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tao: the german winter uniform was reversable. Outside it was camo, and inside it was white.
And it is better to have a mixed outfit. Clear white will stick out easier then little white and little camo.
And why they got half white half camo? Well maybe the uniform was so dirty, maybe this soldier liked white better. Why? there is not always an answer:P
ome guys had full white the others full regular outfits. And both dint worked properly
so half half is good. And on the distance you play airsoft (I play airsoft too so i know what im talking about) camo makes almost no sence.
(btw I have to tell Tao is right, we need some allied stuff now :P )
actually camo DID was important yesterday.
And ofcourse i am right dammit. 4 german biased updates with still no sign of any still important missing allied vehicles!
you guys dont need Anything.. if the maps dont need a new allied vehicle, you wont get one :) face it ffs, the germans had more vehicles spread around :)
im so tired seeing the Same people complaining over and over again
explain then why the 111 pumas get added
Because 66 of them were issued to Panzer Lehr, 2nd Panzer Div and LSSAH. It was THE scout vehicle for panzer divisions in Normandy. It was relatively rare vehicle, but NOT IN NORMANDY.
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And i agree it should be added actually. Because it was also with the leading elements of the Assault during Operation Luttich
Then why cant the same be done on for example, Villers bocage and the 11th hussars?And there humbers and dingos?
I dont have a problem with the puma ingame.Or other rare german stuff. i have a slight problem with the same situation with allied vehicles, with examples even being=more common and FAR more used. Yet STILL not added
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Thanks FH2 Devs for such a nice update...
Can´t wait for the special announcement!
I am sure that you will tell us that you are working on Eastern Front too! ;)
And i agree it should be added actually. Because it was also with the leading elements of the Assault during Operation Luttich
Then why cant the same be done on for example, Villers bocage and the 11th hussars?And there humbers and dingos?
I dont have a problem with the puma ingame.Or other rare german stuff. i have a slight problem with the same situation with allied vehicles, with examples even being=more common and FAR more used. Yet STILL not added
You shouldn´t rant that much...
Say thanks because we got Churchills at all!
And if you really want that stuff, why don´t you get 3DS Max and start working on them?
Anyways, sorry if I sounded harsh!
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I think that after the devs realised that the amount of vehicles on a map is limited, scout vehicles kind of fell out of favor. There are only very few maps where they make sense gameplaywise (I wouldn't even say that Lüttich is one of them). So after no mapper wanted a british scout car they just didn't make one and gave them the Stuart Recce instead because they already had it.
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Its not just that, its many other things
But i have hope that we will get something allied in the next update
Surely there wont be 6 german bias updates in a row, now will there? ;)
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Its not just that, its many other things
You always say that but still you always mention the same things.
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They want to surprise u when the update really releases :D
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Its not just that, its many other things
You always say that but still you always mention the same things.
Want me to get started? ;D
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He did say he had a roll of Scheisspapier full of suggestions lol
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The special update will most likely be Finnish biased.
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The special update will most likely be Finnish biased.
Let's hope for that.
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YES!!!!!!!! Ive been waiting to see the models, they are always my favorite news updates. Great job devs, now let's see the American models :)
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Its not just that, its many other things
You always say that but still you always mention the same things.
Want me to get started? ;D
Yes, go on, bring it!
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YES!!!!!!!! Ive been waiting to see the models, they are always my favorite news updates.
mine too ;D
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Mine too with gun model :|.
I'll jizz in my pant when they will make the paratrooper and japanese (if they go to the pacific in the futur :|) model :P
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Its not just that, its many other things
You always say that but still you always mention the same things.
Want me to get started? ;D
Yes, go on, bring it!
Alright!
I start with it tomorow!
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Its not just that, its many other things
You always say that but still you always mention the same things.
Want me to get started? ;D
Yes, go on, bring it!
Alright!
I start with it tomorow!
Good, because then I leave for a trip, bwhaha! ;D
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I start with it tomorrow!
This sounds like you aren't prepared - that you don't have this long list :P
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IIRC BGF made greatcoats, and they were pretty cool
yes we did, but not in any offcial release, they looked very much like the ones in CoD1
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can you post some pics ? im curious
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acutally, i miss informated you, some bgf dev Did make some but those where never taken pictures of, nor released in the internal build.
The only pictures i have are ported ones from.. medal of honor i believe it is?
these pictures are the last remains of the greatcoats
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/sovietwinterhat.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/sogcoatingame.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/Germanwintersmock-1.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/germangreatcoat.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/gcoatwkits2.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/gcoatwkits1.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/gcoatingamefire.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk93/Daedra08/gcoatingame-1.jpg)
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I never really cared about those greatcoats... but now I want theeeeeeeeeeeem.
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Would be sweet to see ported models of fallschirmjagers.
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Nice update! Good lookin' models, and I too would love to see great coats.
Even more, though, I want to know what this big update will be about. Maybe the next big front? In other words, Ostfront? Yes? I'll just keep telling myself this.
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This guy Vic made many player models. He worked with Gunnie on EOD2, but vanished and nobody know where he went.
Here are more of this WIP player models. To see more just click on some of his replies. Enjoy :D
http://www.bfeditor.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=8998&start=0&p=61525&hl="player%20model"&fromsearch=1&#entry61525
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What a shame, he imported a lot of modells ( also not as high quality as FH2 modells but nice one) but failed due to a person insulting him for using MOH content :-\
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You can have many different animated playermodels in bf2. but not at the same time. We are only allowed to have 1 Set of Bones ( you need those for animations) at one Time. I saw running horse in BF2 engine before but again. Horse or Human! what do you want? ;D
Hmmm. So if the player animations on a given map (surely, this is map-specific instead of mod-specific?) are the same for all playermodels on both sides, if one model is wearing greatcoats, all models should wear it, pilots and tankers included, or it looks funny? ;D I can see this as a distant possibility on Ostfront proper with both sides wearing greatcoats (as in the screenshots), but Winter War is going to be tough (unless you put in the Raate Road where the Ukrainian divisions did not have winter gear).
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Why isnt the ModDB page being updated with the latest news ?
We need all the support we can get now, player base wise.
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Why isnt the ModDB page being updated with the latest news ?
We need all the support we can get now, player base wise.
My fault, fixing now, thanks :)
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Avesome update ;D
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I will accept a MG15 bipod only Update though
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This guy Vic made many player models. He worked with Gunnie on EOD2, but vanished and nobody know where he went.
Here are more of this WIP player models. To see more just click on some of his replies. Enjoy :D
http://www.bfeditor.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=8998&start=0&p=61525&hl="player%20model"&fromsearch=1&#entry61525
Very nice models, even tank commanders and crew.
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Too bad most of them have incorrect uniforms....
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Too bad most of them have incorrect uniforms....
I sure hope you mean the MoH ones... or are you still mad about the postwar trousers? ;)
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Too bad most of them have incorrect uniforms....
I sure hope you mean the MoH ones... or are you still mad about the postwar trousers? ;)
Yeah, I mean the MoH ones being posted here. As for the post-war trousers, I have it on good authority that they are fixed internally, and that they just aren't gonna replace the renders that were in the update, as it would be too bothersome to do it for all the news sites it got posted on. :P
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I thought they just looked like Sumpftarn because they used that reversed Splintertarn camo?
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As for the post-war trousers, I have it on good authority that they are fixed internally, and that they just aren't gonna replace the renders that were in the update, as it would be too bothersome to do it for all the news sites it got posted on. :P
Post war trousers? I knew that something was going to come about this trousers that not really have a accurate ww2 pattern. I hope they will be fixed. But I'm sorry. You calling them post war trousers once again shows me that you talk loud and know little.
Here is some postwar:
The one who knows what he is talking about will clearly see the difference.
(http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/483/postwar.jpg)
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As for the post-war trousers, I have it on good authority that they are fixed internally, and that they just aren't gonna replace the renders that were in the update, as it would be too bothersome to do it for all the news sites it got posted on. :P
Post war trousers? I knew that something was going to come about this trousers that not really have a accurate ww2 pattern. I hope they will be fixed. But I'm sorry. You calling them post war trousers once again shows me that you talk loud and know little.
Here is some postwar:
The one who knows what he is talking about will clearly see the difference.
(http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/483/postwar.jpg)
Here is war time pattern tan/water camo:
(http://www.1944militaria.com/tanwater_smock1.jpg)
(http://www10.tx8.cn/photo/piecemark/fg18001.jpg)
Here is my personally owned post-war tan/water BGS tunic from the 1970s:
(http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/892/picture12h.jpg)
And here are different types of BGS tan and water camo, with year manufacture dates:
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:kTkzGpWzzj74rM:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/sanglier/BGSSumpf.jpg&t=1)
Edit: Wait wait wait...did you think I was talking about the trousers themselves, not the camo pattern? I'm talking camo pattern here. The trousers themselves are fine. Its the camo pattern that is post-war. Looks like you're the one who talks loud but knows little about what the other person is saying.
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And what are you trying to tell me with this?
Your pictures of the "war time pattern tan/water camo" are pictures of cheap reproductions that look nothing like the real "tan/water" camo. You want the uniforms to look like that? You have to be nuts.
Nice that you own a BGS tunic. Those are getting sought after lately. But when you have the privilege to own one of these, you should actually take a close look at them before you make silly comments on the forums.
Of course I can follow how you come to the conclusion that on the render you see a post war camo pattern. Pattern is similar, colors are almost the same, they are easy to mix up for somebody who doesn't know much about it.
I have a little task for you. Try to find out what the reversed Splittertarn pattern is and with a bit of imagination you might be able to figure out how a render of pants in a pattern that is a mix betwen reversed Splittertarn and Sumpftarn occured.
edit to Mudras edit:
I'm not talking about trousers. Just the pattern.
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And what are you trying to tell me with this?
Your pictures of the "war time pattern tan/water camo" are pictures of cheap reproductions that look nothing like the real "tan/water" camo. You want the uniforms to look like that? You have to be nuts.
Nice that you own a BGS tunic. Those are getting sought after lately. But when you have the privilege to own one of these, you should actually take a close look at them before you make silly comments on the forums.
Of course I can follow how you come to the conclusion that on the render you see a post war camo pattern. Pattern is similar, colors are almost the same, they are easy to mix up for somebody who doesn't know much about it.
I have a little task for you. Try to find out what the reversed Splittertarn pattern is and with a bit of imagination you might be able to figure out how a render of pants in a pattern that is a mix betwen reversed Splittertarn and Sumpftarn occured.
HAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHHAAH
Dude, I defy you. DEFY YOU, to prove that the wartime camo I just showed you is incorrect in any way, shape, or form. I utterly defy you to do that. The camo pattern on those trousers right now is a post-war BGS. I pointed that out to Kev the moment I saw it. He told me that Remdul has fixed it internally, and that they posted the incorrect renders. I posted a photo set, off Wehrmacht awards forum (if you don't know what that is, its basically a forum of guys who could put me and taranov to shame) showing varying patterns of BGS camo. They are IDENTICAL to the camo pattern on those trousers.
M44 Tan/Water was a MUCH different camo than splinter. It was darker, more mustardy, the edges were blurred and rounded off. The M43 type, much rarer, is closer to what you have, with distint borders, but still far off:
(http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/6074/sumpftarniii.jpg)
(Note, this is an ORIGINAL 43 type tan/water parka)
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speaking of camo, why not fix up the current waffen SS erbsenmuster? noone seems to complain how off it is..
and mudra, how far is this gonna get you? exept you look like an complete idiot writing like that :-\
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speaking of camo, why not fix up the current waffen SS erbsenmuster? noone seems to complain how off it is..
and mudra, how far is this gonna get you? exept you look like an complete idiot writing like that :-\
A complete idiot for what? Knoffhoff first claims that I "talk loud and know little." He then goes on to say "You want the uniforms to look like that? You have to be nuts." and "Pattern is similar, colors are almost the same, they are easy to mix up for somebody who doesn't know much about it." That's all nice, except he's talking not to some random forum lurker, but a guy who makes it his living to know about this shit. He wants to go off and insult me on this, he better be able to get solid fact on it, which I know he cannot.
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he's just mad because you keep saying trouser when you should say pattern. and i still havnt found anything that he is stating its an ww2 pattern nor that it is the one you will see ingame, so your argument is invalid..
allso if you have such an good experience in camo and whatnot, why havnt i seen you rage over the wrong colours and patterns in the waffen SS uniforms currently ingame?
sometimes mudra, you talk to much and have a bit to big mouth
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he's just mad because you keep saying trouser when you should say pattern. and i still havnt found anything that he is stating its an ww2 pattern nor that it is the one you will see ingame, so your argument is invalid..
allso if you have such an good experience in camo and whatnot, why havnt i seen you rage over the wrong colours and patterns in the waffen SS uniforms here?
sometimes mudra, you talk to much and have a bit to big mouth
I did, long ago, when the pea-dot was first introduced. There was an epic thread on that.
And if you look at what I wrote, I wrote that according to the people I've spoken too, that render was the incorrect one, and that it HAS been fixed internally. Knoffhoff then came in and started saying that I'm wrong.
And the reason I do sometimes talk to much, and have a bit too big of a mouth, is because when I KNOW something is wrong, I point it out. I was polite though. I noted in my first post that it was incorrect, but that it was just the wrong render, and according to Kev, it had been fixed internally. It was knoffhoff who insulted me, then started spewing that I was wrong.
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I thought it just looked a bit like Sumpftarn cause it was supposed to be that rare reversed splinter camo...
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he's just mad because you keep saying trouser when you should say pattern. and i still havnt found anything that he is stating its an ww2 pattern nor that it is the one you will see ingame, so your argument is invalid..
allso if you have such an good experience in camo and whatnot, why havnt i seen you rage over the wrong colours and patterns in the waffen SS uniforms here?
sometimes mudra, you talk to much and have a bit to big mouth
I did, long ago, when the pea-dot was first introduced. There was an epic thread on that.
And if you look at what I wrote, I wrote that according to the people I've spoken too, that render was the incorrect one, and that it HAS been fixed internally. Knoffhoff then came in and started saying that I'm wrong.
And the reason I do sometimes talk to much, and have a bit too big of a mouth, is because when I KNOW something is wrong, I point it out.
ohreally? just like when you raged out that stonegrey field uniforms didnt exist? ::) no sir, you arent allways right when you scream
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Here are a couple of pictures of original Tan & Water pattern uniform articles:
(http://i569.photobucket.com/albums/ss133/Arisaka99/PA010178.jpg)
(http://www.bunkermilitaria.com/WEBSITE-20100702/5704_01.JPG)
Mudra is indeed correct, Knoffhoff just needs to calm down. I'm sure that the problem will be simple to fix.
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he's just mad because you keep saying trouser when you should say pattern. and i still havnt found anything that he is stating its an ww2 pattern nor that it is the one you will see ingame, so your argument is invalid..
allso if you have such an good experience in camo and whatnot, why havnt i seen you rage over the wrong colours and patterns in the waffen SS uniforms here?
sometimes mudra, you talk to much and have a bit to big mouth
I did, long ago, when the pea-dot was first introduced. There was an epic thread on that.
And if you look at what I wrote, I wrote that according to the people I've spoken too, that render was the incorrect one, and that it HAS been fixed internally. Knoffhoff then came in and started saying that I'm wrong.
And the reason I do sometimes talk to much, and have a bit too big of a mouth, is because when I KNOW something is wrong, I point it out.
ohreally? just like when you raged out that stonegrey field uniforms didnt exist? ::) no sir, you arent allways right when you scream
What? They didn't. The only steingrau field uniform was the M37 trouser. ::) And the heer field uniforms for FH2 are spot on correct anyways.
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you sir, obviousle know nothing about german forces in norway.. wich i.. happens to know a damn good deal about ::)
just because you are an american, and an reenactor, dosnt mean you are right all the time. now suck it up bitch :D
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lol this is getting better and better ;D
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you sir, obviousle know nothing about german forces in norway.. wich i.. happens to know a damn good deal about ::)
just because you are an american, and an reenactor, dosnt mean you are right all the time. now suck it up bitch :D
taking this to pm :P This topic is on the tan/water camo.
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no, this topic isnt about that, this is an news announcement. not an discussion on you how big your ego is ;)
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no, this topic isnt about that, this is an news announcement. not an discussion on you how big your ego is ;)
My ego is ginormous. And yah, but I'm refering to the topic at hand :P
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no, this topic isnt about that, this is an news announcement. not an discussion on you how big your ego is ;)
Sn00x you really do enjoy this, don't you?
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Somehow I feel ignored... I thought it was this:
(http://s1.postimage.org/jH_yN9-835.jpg)
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no, this topic isnt about that, this is an news announcement. not an discussion on you how big your ego is ;)
Sn00x you really do enjoy this, don't you?
mind reader! ;D
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Somehow I feel ignored... I thought it was this:
(http://s1.postimage.org/jH_yN9-835.jpg)
But it is. That's 43 type tan/water camo. This is NOT 43 type tan/water camo:
(http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/2761/52537095.jpg)
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Why not? the pattern is exactly the same except for a different tone of colour that could easily be caused by lighting.
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RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
And also, dat camo in da pants is wack, dawg! Dis FH2, homie. S*&^'s gotta be right wah you put in work.
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Pattern is completly different. Greens are smaller, the browns are too small, the colour on the 43 type is darker and more of a mustard. Those trousers:
(http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/2761/52537095.jpg)
Are this:
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:kTkzGpWzzj74rM:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v15/sanglier/BGSSumpf.jpg&t=1)
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How is it "completely different"? For instance, if you compare the pattern in the red circle with the one below the grenade, it looks exactly the same.
(http://www.abload.de/img/jh_yn9-835kzzp.jpg)
the only problem seems to be the tone of color, which might be caused by lighting.
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How is it "completely different"? For instance, if you compare the pattern in the red circle with the one below the grenade, it looks exactly the same.
(http://www.abload.de/img/jh_yn9-835kzzp.jpg)
the only problem seems to be the tone of color, which might be caused by lighting.
They are similar, yes. In that the later ones evolved FROM the wartime tan water pattern and was used for quite some time. I see them in surplus stores all the time, they still even make my heart jump if im not paying attention.
The same is true of Italian camo schemes. The wartime camo was the basis of their camo pattern well into the 1990s. To the untrained eye, the postwar evolutions appear very similar and are often sold as "ww2 italian camo" to people who don't know any better.
They are similar, but for the needs of this game, they ARE completely different.
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Tone of colour is extremely important in this. Also, the greens on the BGS pattern are more broken up and thinner. The 43 tan and water is fatter green, and they're far less broken, plus are much less jagged. The browns are also larger and fewer in number. These are incredibly important differences when looking at camo. Just take a loot at the BGS camo and tell me that that isn't identical to those trousers. You can't, because it IS. Remdul put IN the postwar camo. As I have said repeatedly, when I talked to Kev about this, he said, point blank, that Remdul did the BGS camo on accident, that the posted render in the newsupdate was INCORRECT, that it got out on accident, and that the corrected camo was already done by Remdul.
And Kading is right on that. For example, here is wartime italian camo, next to post-war:
(http://www.dererstezug.com/images/sewn.jpg)(http://www.dererstezug.com/images/metal.jpg)
Other then fading, it LOOKS almost exactly the same. However, the major difference is in a slightly brighter blue, and the edging being more ruffled. Its minor, but it completely changes the authenticity of the camo pattern.
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And if you look at what I wrote, I wrote that according to the people I've spoken too, that render was the incorrect one, and that it HAS been fixed internally. Knoffhoff then came in and started saying that I'm wrong.
And the reason I do sometimes talk to much, and have a bit too big of a mouth, is because when I KNOW something is wrong, I point it out.
I never said you were were wrong that the pattern is not a accurate ww2 pattern and I agree that it has be fixed. I internally was trying to get it right done for the renders but I failed.
But what I say is that the pattern on the renders is not the postwar BGS pattern. And my honest opinion is that you don't know much about what you are talking about if you claim it is. And if you really earn money with that knowledge, I'd advise the one paying you to ask to get his money back. I'm sorry if that hurts you, but it's my honest opinion. You should remember that you will never know everything and you can always learn new things. And sometimes admitting that you are wrong might make you much more likable.
Here are some photos of camo patterns of german winter jackets that I personally own and are no cheap reproductions but the original thing.
First I want to show you the most common Wehrmacht camoflage pattern:
The pattern is the Heeressplittertarnmuster 31.
(http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/6733/p1020513n.jpg)
Second I want to show you where the pattern on the renders is coming from:
Again the pattern is the Heeressplittertarnmuster 31.
Outstanding is that in comparison to the best know variation that is shown above the colors are switched. Green parts are brown, brown parts are green. Color shades were different depending on the manufacturer (like with all camo itmes). However, the most common color is similar to the color of the postwar BGS pattern. Collectors use to call it reversed Splittertan. Items in this pattern are rare but still they were frequently used. This was intended to go into the mod on a very limited basis (Squad leader only). But it originally showed up on the render.
(http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/580/revsplitt.jpg)
Compare the original render:
(http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/3383/splitt.jpg)
And at last I want to show you the Sumptarnmuster. Originally called Wehrmachtssumptarnmuster 43. Collectors sepreate the 43 and 44 pattern, but originally the name has never been changed (to my knowledge). This pattern with the regular Heeressplittertarnmuster was the most used on the winter uniforms. The jacket I own shows the 44 style of the pattern. I would have loved to see it on the renders, because showing the reversed Splittertarn without having Sumpftarn is just wrong.
(http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/5088/p1020516i.jpg)
Now to dissolve how those renders originated here is the story:
The first render showed the SS stuff and regular and reversed Splittertarn. I said we need Sumpftarn, the reversed Splittertarn can't go without Sumptarn.
We got a edited reversed Splittertarn that was identical to the postwar BGS pattern. I said,no way, we can't show that.
Then we got what we see on the renders now. Reversed Splittertarn with blurred edges that was supposedf to go through as the 44 Supftarn pattern. I don't think it deserved to go on the renders but couldn't say anything because I'm not online 24/7.
But for once and all the renders don't show the postwar BGS pattern.
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You could have possibly, at any point, pointed out that it was reverse splinter? Instead you debate me on if its BGS or not. BGS basically IS reverse splinter with some fading a la tan/water, which, when you look at a render that is faded and digital, one can see on that, and from what you're saying, is what that is. Now, if you came in, and said that "yes, that is supposed to be reverse splinter", we could have avoided this entire thing. I was working under the impression that that was tan/water, and your continued fight with me on if it was tan/water or not would quite well bring anyone to think that it is tan/water. If that IS supposed to be reverse splinter, then its technically mostly correct (other than the blur), though yes, EXTREMELY rare. But that is ONLY if its supposed to be a reverse of splinter, and not tan/water.
Next time, correct me and say that "oh no, that's supposed to be reverse splinter, but a slight error was made on it" rather than fight me tooth and nail on what correct tan/water camo patterns are. ::)
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I thought it just looked a bit like Sumpftarn cause it was supposed to be that rare reversed splinter camo...
Next time just listen to me...
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Well, I finally give up on you. It has been posted by me that you should look up what reversed Splinter is, it has been posted by Ts4EVER that it had something to do with reversed Splinter and if I remember right I never ever said it was supposed to be Tan and Water. All I said is that it is not postwar BGS pattern and that somebody who knows what he is talking about should be able to see it.
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Well, I finally give up on you. It has been posted by me that you should look up what reversed Splinter is, it has been posted by Ts4EVER that it had something to do with reversed Splinter and if I remember right I never ever said it was supposed to be Tan and Water. All I said is that it is not postwar BGS pattern and that somebody who knows what he is talking about should be able to see it.
But it looked more like postwar BGS than your fabled reverse splinter pattern. The latter mentioned pattern being about as rare as a Vampir scope in the war.
Next time base your renders on uniforms that aren't very rare and you won't have this problem in the future.
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All you had to say was that it was supposed to be reverse splinter, and I would have immediately conceded THEN, instead of a few pages later when you finally say it. You did not. Instead, you ran through a debate on what tan/water is, while I continued to not understand how you couldn't see that that wasn't tan/water camo.
Next time, say that up front, and we don't have this kinda mess.
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Never
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doubt vonmudra in terms of german stuff
Now stop this before i lock thi....
oh wait...
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We have a nice saying in Holland: Gelijk hebben is niet hetzelfde als gelijk krijgen.
Which means being right is not the same as someone agreeing with you.
It's better to agree that you are both right in your perception and let it be.
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We have a nice saying in Holland: Gelijk hebben is niet hetzelfde als gelijk krijgen.
Which means being right is not the same as someone agreeing with you.
It's better to agree that you are both right in your perception and let it be.
But how can you possibly let anyone tell these horrid lies about something as important and life-threatening as the minute differences of camouflage in the trousers of German soldiers in a WWII-mod? You have no idea what's important in life do you NTH?
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Stunning.
I hope that the Bulge maps will be a good mix of open/close quarters, normandy was a bit to closed for my taste.
And why is there always a fight when a german camo is shown.... ::)
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German camo is extremely provocative.
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Well in mudras defense, it was a misunderstanding.
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Stunning.
I hope that the Bulge maps will be a good mix of open/close quarters, normandy was a bit to closed for my taste.
for sure, maps are bigger ;)
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Model and weapons updates are the best ;D. Looks like a lot of effort, especcially the camo patterns.
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We have a nice saying in Holland: Gelijk hebben is niet hetzelfde als gelijk krijgen.
Which means being right is not the same as someone agreeing with you.
It's better to agree that you are both right in your perception and let it be.
But how can you possibly let anyone tell these horrid lies about something as important and life-threatening as the minute differences of camouflage in the trousers of German soldiers in a WWII-mod? You have no idea what's important in life do you NTH?
Paasky, I fear for your soul, it's become dark with sarcasm ;)
And yes I have my priorities mixed up. I think it's more important that the models have the correct source of water in their water canteens. Despite to popular believe it was not hauled from the German Rheine during the Battle of the Bulge but obtained from a water source in Spa.
And don't dare to question me I drink it everyday :P
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There's not enough resolution in the texture/render to make any claim which version of the camo pattern is displayed here. I see varying claims here about colors based on pictures taken under different circumstances (lighting, camera settings/properties, monitor calibration, color perception of the human brain etc) of items that even IRL vary greatly (weathering, storage condition, dye degradation, fabric tension, age and variation of the quality of cloth, dyes and chemicals used at the time of manufacture etc)...
Lighting is incredibly complex. Outdoor lighting is affected by things like weather conditions (cloudiness, air humidity filters light differently), occlusion and reflection of nearby objects and ground, even our sun's light emittance varies from time to time (relative size in sky due to time of year, even sunspots). Indoor lighting is greatly affected by the type of light source, the chemicals in the light bulb and type of material. The colors on the walls and the chemicals and texture of the paint.
Anyone attempting to make definitive statements about color is nuts and only deluding himself. Colors and even contrast are not absolute and change continuously. As a graphics artist, I work with colors all the time and have developed an appreciation for the way nature manipulates color (and it's observers!) as it pleases. When someone asks me what my favorite color is, I honest to god don't know what to answer; for this color changes all the time. I see this as a variation of the Heisenberg principle, color changes not between observations, but changes because it is being observed.
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Stunning.
I hope that the Bulge maps will be a good mix of open/close quarters, normandy was a bit to closed for my taste.
for sure, maps are bigger ;)
But then there's the trees, so bigger levels might feel as closed as the Normandy ones, but you know, bigger. ;)
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I see this as a variation of the Heisenberg principle, color changes not between observations, but changes because it is being observed.
You can say it louder, but not clearer!
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There's not enough resolution in the texture/render to make any claim which version of the camo pattern is displayed here. I see varying claims here about colors based on pictures taken under different circumstances (lighting, camera settings/properties, monitor calibration, color perception of the human brain etc) of items that even IRL vary greatly (weathering, storage condition, dye degradation, fabric tension, age and variation of the quality of cloth, dyes and chemicals used at the time of manufacture etc)...
Lighting is incredibly complex. Outdoor lighting is affected by things like weather conditions (cloudiness, air humidity filters light differently), occlusion and reflection of nearby objects and ground, even our sun's light emittance varies from time to time (relative size in sky due to time of year, even sunspots). Indoor lighting is greatly affected by the type of light source, the chemicals in the light bulb and type of material. The colors on the walls and the chemicals and texture of the paint.
Anyone attempting to make definitive statements about color is nuts and only deluding himself. Colors and even contrast are not absolute and change continuously. As a graphics artist, I work with colors all the time and have developed an appreciation for the way nature manipulates color (and it's observers!) as it pleases. When someone asks me what my favorite color is, I honest to god don't know what to answer; for this color changes all the time. I see this as a variation of the Heisenberg principle, color changes not between observations, but changes because it is being observed.
Remdul said it!
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Can some one fill me in real fast as what happened? Im too lazy to look.
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Can some one fill me in real fast as what happened? Im too lazy to look.
Military costume debate
Yes it was german
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Stunning.
I hope that the Bulge maps will be a good mix of open/close quarters, normandy was a bit to closed for my taste.
for sure, maps are bigger ;)
But then there's the trees, so bigger levels might feel as closed as the Normandy ones, but you know, bigger. ;)
forest overall? no, trust me, its more open then u think.
(maybe i have to update my sig?)
(http://img.fotowelt.chip.de/imgserver/communityimages/704000/704006/1280x.jpg)
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I always wondered why people never seem to comment on your sig ;)
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Can some one fill me in real fast as what happened? Im too lazy to look.
Military costume debate
Yes it was german
A ad bit deeper. All i see is Mudra, Sumpftarn, Reverse splinter (?), and rage posts.
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After ninth page it turned into flamewars.
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The problem is that the trousers of the middle guy in the first pic look a lot like Sumpftarn, a pattern that was used post war by the Bundeswehr. Von mudra thought a mistake was made by the devs. He thought it was supposed to be a WW2 era pattern and that the devs had somehow messed up the colouring. However, what really happened was that they added a very rare pattern that just ahppens to look like that postwar one on the screenshot and which vonMudra had not expected (because of how rare it was). So yeah.
Anyway, change of topic. Talk about kettcars sig or something.
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Sooo, kettcar's sig picture is like Foy in summer/fall? ;)
btw that picture of Belgium (which I assume it is) is going to be my new wallpaper.
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Just say what map is is and when it comes out. No need to ask or drool for.
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The problem is that the trousers of the middle guy in the first pic look a lot like Sumpftarn, a pattern that was used post war by the Bundeswehr. Von mudra thought a mistake was made by the devs. He thought it was supposed to be a WW2 era pattern and that the devs had somehow messed up the colouring. However, what really happened was that they added a very rare pattern that just ahppens to look like that postwar one on the screenshot and which vonMudra had not expected (because of how rare it was). So yeah.
Anyway, change of topic. Talk about kettcars sig or something.
So why the heck add something that rare? I WANNA SEE A GREAT COAT!
No even better a Fallshirmjager smock over a great coat!
I wonder if we will ever see some camo smocks in FH2
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The problem is that the trousers of the middle guy in the first pic look a lot like Sumpftarn, a pattern that was used post war by the Bundeswehr. Von mudra thought a mistake was made by the devs. He thought it was supposed to be a WW2 era pattern and that the devs had somehow messed up the colouring. However, what really happened was that they added a very rare pattern that just ahppens to look like that postwar one on the screenshot and which vonMudra had not expected (because of how rare it was). So yeah.
Anyway, change of topic. Talk about kettcars sig or something.
Bingo xD
And yes, Kettcar's sig is interesting ;)
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The problem is that the trousers of the middle guy in the first pic look a lot like Sumpftarn, a pattern that was used post war by the Bundeswehr. Von mudra thought a mistake was made by the devs. He thought it was supposed to be a WW2 era pattern and that the devs had somehow messed up the colouring. However, what really happened was that they added a very rare pattern that just ahppens to look like that postwar one on the screenshot and which vonMudra had not expected (because of how rare it was). So yeah.
Anyway, change of topic. Talk about kettcars sig or something.
So why the heck add something that rare? I WANNA SEE A GREAT COAT!
No even better a Fallshirmjager smock over a great coat!
I wonder if we will ever see some camo smocks in FH2
Engine limitations... greatcoats would mean using a different set of animations.
That means that on that map, all the soldiers would have to wear a greatcoat.
And they wouldn´t even or ever look as good as they should.
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So why the heck add something that rare? I WANNA SEE A GREAT COAT!
No even better a Fallshirmjager smock over a great coat!
I wonder if we will ever see some camo smocks in FH2
Because it is a easy reskin and not much work is needed to add it.
And rare is relative. Yes that camo pattern was rare in comparison to other patterns, but it was frequently used!
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So why the heck add something that rare? I WANNA SEE A GREAT COAT!
No even better a Fallshirmjager smock over a great coat!
I wonder if we will ever see some camo smocks in FH2
Because it is a easy reskin and not much work is needed to add it.
And rare is relative. Yes that camo pattern was rare in comparison to other patterns, but it was frequently used!
But rather unexpected. Reverse splinter is a pattern you don't even see in reenacting, cuz almost NO ONE knows it existed xD
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Yet those who know about it can even nowadays pretty frequently find original uniforms in that pattern for sale.
I don't have any numbers about how many were produced and used back then in WW2. But when you compare photo coverage(most of the times hard to figure out the exact pattern though) and availability today, it becomes obvious that it was used in big numbers and for this reason deserves a place in FH2.
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With the move to the announcements forums, any chance future new updates thread titles could change? Before when you would see "Forgotten Hope News....." as the latest thread in General Discussion, you had a hint that there was a news update. Now you have to open the forum to check. Perhaps
December 26th : Forgotten Hope News Update
Christmas with Christoff: : Forgotten Hope News
Or something like that?
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So why the heck add something that rare? I WANNA SEE A GREAT COAT!
No even better a Fallshirmjager smock over a great coat!
I wonder if we will ever see some camo smocks in FH2
Because it is a easy reskin and not much work is needed to add it.
And rare is relative. Yes that camo pattern was rare in comparison to other patterns, but it was frequently used!
But rather unexpected. Reverse splinter is a pattern you don't even see in reenacting, cuz almost NO ONE knows it existed xD
I sure don't lol. Can i have a pic of the real deal?
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With the move to the announcements forums, any chance future new updates thread titles could change? Before when you would see "Forgotten Hope News....." as the latest thread in General Discussion, you had a hint that there was a news update. Now you have to open the forum to check. Perhaps
December 26th : Forgotten Hope News Update
Christmas with Christoff: : Forgotten Hope News
Or something like that?
Show unread posts since last visit. (http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?action=unread)
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Yet those who know about it can even nowadays pretty frequently find original uniforms in that pattern for sale.
I don't have any numbers about how many were produced and used back then in WW2. But when you compare photo coverage(most of the times hard to figure out the exact pattern though) and availability today, it becomes obvious that it was used in big numbers and for this reason deserves a place in FH2.
That's because it really wasn't issued. There's always a difference between issuance and production. The reason there are so many originals of that is because they sat in factories, never got issued, and so came out of the war with lots of them saved for collectors. Actual photos of it, I've only seen once or twice....
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Yet those who know about it can even nowadays pretty frequently find original uniforms in that pattern for sale.
I don't have any numbers about how many were produced and used back then in WW2. But when you compare photo coverage(most of the times hard to figure out the exact pattern though) and availability today, it becomes obvious that it was used in big numbers and for this reason deserves a place in FH2.
That's because it really wasn't issued. There's always a difference between issuance and production. The reason there are so many originals of that is because they sat in factories, never got issued, and so came out of the war with lots of them saved for collectors. Actual photos of it, I've only seen once or twice....
You have any photos of this "Reverse Splinter"? Is it just splinter on white?
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With the move to the announcements forums, any chance future new updates thread titles could change? Before when you would see "Forgotten Hope News....." as the latest thread in General Discussion, you had a hint that there was a news update. Now you have to open the forum to check. Perhaps
December 26th : Forgotten Hope News Update
Christmas with Christoff: : Forgotten Hope News
Or something like that?
I second this
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How about you give the special update at 00:00 GMT :D!!!!
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How about you give the special update at 00:00 GMT :D!!!!
Even the devs have something better to do then ;) I think they were taken somewhat by surprise by the amount of win, so now they are planning to do something extra special. However, that takes time, obviously.
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The more time it takes the better the update will be, that was all the time the case in the last time.
So Happy New Year Devs, Betas and all Users!
Guten Rutsch und schönes neues Jahr wünsch ich euch.
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The more time it takes the better the update will be, that was all the time the case in the last time.
So Happy New Year Devs, Betas and all Users!
Guten Rutsch und schönes neues Jahr wünsch ich euch.
Dir auch! :D
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to much time needed for greatcoats
time should be used to finnaly give us light bombers and other twin engined aircraft
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You know you have been playing waaaay too much Forgotten Hope when, on New Year's Eve, you're chilling with friends and watching the fireworks light up your beloved Amsterdam and all you can think of is "I should be playing FH right now, the warzone-like firework-sounds would make an awesome immersion effect"
FH devs, thanks again for all the work you've done, and keep it up. Happy new year!
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hahaha, true dat Mud :)
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damn if i just had some good recording equipment, i could record those distant bangs, and tweak them to be distant explosion sounds :-\
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Yea, there was quite some fog in the nethlands, it really felt like some kind of warzone with only loud explosions and distants flashes of light. But fortunatly i didnt think of fh2 that day ;D.
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i got an instant thaught of fh2 ;D
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all quiet on the FH2 update front
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damn you! i trough we had an update :P
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damn you! i trough we had an update :P
DAM YOU NOW I THOUGHT we had a update!
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We want announcement about Eastern Front, but we want it NOW!
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We want announcement about Eastern Front, but we want it NOW!
Or new italian stuff!
http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?topic=4720.0
^sie list
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We want announcement about Eastern Front, but we want it NOW!
Or new italian stuff!
http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?topic=4720.0
^sie list
OMG, that anti-tank rifle is amazing...
Sadly I doubt it was actually used in North Africa...
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OMG, that anti-tank rifle is amazing...
Sadly I doubt it was actually used in North Africa...
Which one? The one on the Saharina is already in the game. <:)
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We want announcement about Eastern Front, but we want it NOW!
Or new italian stuff!
http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?topic=4720.0
^sie list
OMG, that anti-tank rifle is amazing...
Sadly I doubt it was actually used in North Africa...
Its already ingame. But on the Sahriana vehicle
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ah thats why this gun is firing so strange. I though it was some kind of 20mm autocanon^^
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With the move to the announcements forums, any chance future new updates thread titles could change? Before when you would see "Forgotten Hope News....." as the latest thread in General Discussion, you had a hint that there was a news update. Now you have to open the forum to check. Perhaps
December 26th : Forgotten Hope News Update
Christmas with Christoff: : Forgotten Hope News
Or something like that?
I second this
damn you! i trough we had an update :P
DAM YOU NOW I THOUGHT we had a update!
I thought so also.. new thread titles please. :)
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SHUT THE FUCK UP now I thought we had an update!!
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Ah, damnit! Now I thought there was an update!
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so now its really time to make a real update so that WE dont think all time that there was a new one ^^
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so now its really time to make a real update so that WE dont think all time that there was a new one ^^
Don't get your hopes up. ^^
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still waiting for the special announcment.
;)
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stop spamming the thread dam it! spam the facebook, when i see the announcement section blink i feel like theres and update when there isnt. this is my angry face >.<
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I want to see it again ;)
BTW, anyone got a clue about the special announcment?
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BTW, anyone got a clue about the special announcment?
Nope, not even the devs ;)
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BTW, anyone got a clue about the special announcment?
Nope, not even the devs ;)
Yeah, they do, this is just an excuse to stop us from spamming their PM boxes ;D!
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The strange thing is, it is an announcment, they wouldn't have made normally.
So it has nothing to do with Bulge, but maybe an early release.
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can this be closed??? my dream have been crushed for too long now ><
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I hope to see that special announcement this weekend. Or I don't see it for many weeks :(
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@SiCaRiO
Lighting still wasn't here, so it is impossible
@ajappat
Then you can probably for some hard weeks
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If you people are annoyed about people posting into this thread, then how about no one posts into this thread after reading this?
Saves a lot of frustration from everybody.
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Or rename the thread titles. ;D
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D'oh! AGAIN :'(
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I just posted here so people think there is an update.
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Still waiting for the pages to say under the update 1-3 ::)
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Thread locked. The special announcement is coming, don't worry.