Forgotten Hope Public Forum
Off-Topic => Off-Topic => Topic started by: VonMudra on 09-11-2016, 16:11:41
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So...did this really happen?
Like, seriously this happened?
We're doing this. This happened. America did this. The Rust Belt did this.
I am still kinda in shock.
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Time to grab Mother Earth by the pussy?!?! i didnt believe any of our candidates were worthy to be our leader, we should ashamed.
:-[
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Hooray, weak America!
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Nah, never weak here.. rather they turned our presidential race into a point the finger, he did.. she did... middle school, circus fiasco reminiscent of a horribly acted WWE skit just to fuel drama in order to rake in huge viewer ratings generating millions, possibly billions, more money for some of the wealthy out there.
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Honestly, you should picked Gary Johnson (your traditional pick). Or at least, if you were SJW enough, Jill Stein. At least the Greens are far more liberal, if you were tired by Obama's tired slogan "change".
Pls... dethrone those two giant political power inc. at least.
But anyway, you have chosen out of the establishment, congrats! Hopefully Trump wouldn't be as crazy as him during the campaign. Let's take him by his word... drain the swamp.
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Man, four years of Trump memes. Here we go!
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Pls... dethrone those two giant political power inc. at least.
This, It would be nice if the US finally enters the modern era election-wise.
Abort the stupid electors, they were needed in the 18th century but totally redundant these days!
Abort the two party system, like there is only one choice possible.
Adopt percentage style vote counting and more political parties, so elections will be honest (and no more 22% of popular vote and you are it! results) and Americans will have something to choose from besides the usual suspects in D and R.
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So, in which thread are we actually supposed to discuss The Happening? This or RU?
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The elector system probably stems from the fact that the US is a union of states (which in some cases have more authority than EU member states have nowadays), and the "underrepresented" regions are usually in such system given more weight in order to keep their opinion relevant and avoid groupthink. To compare, in the EU, if parliamentary seats were allocated directly proportional to the population, most of the smaller countries would have a fraction of the seats they have now. Can't see anyone wanting to repeal that, so why should the US?
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Provoked by the endless moaning, I had actually written down some comments on why Trump won and why it's a good thing, but decided not to post that text (yet) because it's full of crimethink and I don't want to be sent to Miniluv for re-education.
But I will say, what was absolutely hilarious was the (social) media outcry this morning European time, which only escalated after Americans got back online in the evening our time, further fueling the hysteria this side of the pond. It was (and still is) as if a thermonuclear war was already on and there would be locusts, plague, and the Four Horsemen abound, and a new sequel to the Twilight franchise had been announced. This is even more delicious than when W. got elected.
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I got no clue where the ship will be sailing. This is very bitter.
I'm hoping that people will measure him according to his promises. Like a concrete wall paid by Mexico, income increases for the working classes that keep up with the elites, ISIS being solved within 90 days, the end of free healthcare for millions of people, a successive protectionist economy policy.
Then it might be over after 4 years and a lesson has been learned.
However, human rights, morals and the general code of conduct are non-negotiable for me. That will be my line for the next 4 years.
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Honestly, you should picked Gary Johnson (your traditional pick).
Actually, I did vote for Gary Johnson. So at least I got to vote for the best person running imo.
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Honestly, you should picked Gary Johnson (your traditional pick).
Actually, I did vote for Gary Johnson. So at least I got to vote for the best person running imo.
Can we know who did you voted for in the primaries?, if you voted of course.., about Gary Johnson, I don't know. I feel right now 3rd parties are a waste of time unless the system changes. Votes that went for Johnson in say, Florida, could have gone to Hillary and this whole mess would have been avoided (as if Hillary was good enough... ::)). Unless 3rd parties are allowed into debates and to get more involved in US politics, I think voting them is kinda pointless, especially in a 100% terrible vs 99.9% terrible race..
About Trump, everyone was mistaken. The guy sold crap to his people about how he hates the system, how he is against the Establishment (they kinda hate him, yes), how he is against the media (they hate him), that sells very well among people, as him being a populist isn't enough...
This was a clear middle finger to the Establishment, and that is good. What is not good is that Trump is president... the best middle finger would have been Bernie but you know, the DNC is corrupt as hell.
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Only way to get third parties more relevant is to vote for them. Also I don't believe in voting for people I don't support.
I didn't vote in the primaries, mostly because there was no one I wanted to vote for in them.
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Could have been Bernie, but if you are Republican, then I can understand about your choice.
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Could have been Bernie, but if you are Republican, then I can underatand about your choice.
I'm not republican either. :P
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The elector system probably stems from the fact that the US is a union of states (which in some cases have more authority than EU member states have nowadays), and the "underrepresented" regions are usually in such system given more weight in order to keep their opinion relevant and avoid groupthink. To compare, in the EU, if parliamentary seats were allocated directly proportional to the population, most of the smaller countries would have a fraction of the seats they have now. Can't see anyone wanting to repeal that, so why should the US?
Of course it stems from that, but your comparison is wrong. The system is wrong because you only need 22% of all votes to win the election, but your comparison is wrong because the US people vote for a president. You can only choose between two (something which I'd love to see changed, but that's besides the point right now), but they are both running for an office to govern the entire nation. It doesn't really matter whether they are from Texas, Alabama, California or Michigan because they are gonna be a federal governor (I mean governor as in "someone who governs" not in the usual meaning it gets in the States). In EU parliament it is a different story, because that is a union between countries, although I wouldn't really mind to see a population-proportional vote for that too. Nationalism is over the hill, it was useful in the 19th century, but we are 150-200 years later now, let's try to act like we actually developed/evolved.
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I have a question for you non america college students, are you/your classmates as "pussified/coddled" as they are here in america?
safe spaces, needing a day off to cry, unable to think for themselves and not mob mentality etc. etc. etc. ?
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I went to university in Germany and I think it generally works differently from the US. From what I can tell (from movies etc) in the US colleges work more like big high schools. Generally in a German university nobody gives a crap about you really, most of what you do is your own responsibility, you live off campus and either you show up or you don't. As long as you pass the exams nobody cares what you do.
Political stuff is mostly leftist, but more classical leftist (which I prefer to identity stuff, which imo is capitalist subversion).
Also you can get beer in the cafeteria.
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I have a question for you non america college students, are you/your classmates as "pussified/coddled" as they are here in america?
safe spaces, needing a day off to cry, unable to think for themselves and not mob mentality etc. etc. etc. ?
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I graduated from a German university two years ago and can pretty much agree with what TS said. Though there´s a rising influence of what´s called political correctnes, mostly in the humanities, especially when there´s a strong (=loud) Gender Studies department on campus. Most students aren´t really falling for their bait, though. Despite German universities having the image of being the breeding ground for revolutionary leftists, mosts students are either not interested in politics at all or even have varying political views, with some being conservative, others being "green", social democratic or liberal/libertarian. Infact, atleast at my university most students really don´t care about politics at all.
Colleges of Education are supposed to be a whole ´nother level, from what I heard. Political correctness is supposed to be rampant there...what this means for the future generation of teachers being trained there, I don´t know...
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Honestly, you should picked Gary Johnson (your traditional pick).
Actually, I did vote for Gary Johnson. So at least I got to vote for the best person running imo.
You really think that? Johnson is a doofus. An affable one admittedly, but libertarians are just failed Republicans. It's a philosophy for the propertied.
I wonder if Bernie would have beaten Trump. I suspect he would have put up a better showing (although I did not think so before the election, I lined up more with Clinton). I think Clinton's sheer unpopularity was probably the biggest reason for the upset. Hate for Clinton is also powerfully tinged by misogyny, but I wonder if another woman might have done better, like Warren.
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I wonder if Bernie would have beaten Trump.
I'm 100% sure Bernie would have beaten Trump. I know, polls kinda failed in this one but Bernie was beating every single republican in many different polls when he was running against Clinton.
Trump has NOTHING to say about Bernie, other than "Sit down, you socialist!" (Duke Cunningham, 1995) or some vague statement, he had no chance at all. Bernie would have just schooled Trump on politics, point by point, with no argument on Trump's side. See the debates, Trump was on the offensive constantly, relentlessly attacking the other GOP candidates and Clinton as well, just one time he was forced to go on the defensive in the GOP debates (a joint strategy between Cruz and Rubio) and many times by Clinton... he just was TERRIBLE, he had nothing to defend himself with.
Given that Bernie has no links with the Establishment and that is what people hate..., I'm sure he would have destroyed Trump.
About Warren, Hillary could have picked Warren as her VP, that would have been a great choice to appease the Progressives inside the Democratic Party.
@Mudra: Yes, I think that 3rd parties should participate more in the elections, but I think that there should be some legislation between elections to allow the main 3rd parties to participate in the big debates and to gain fair media coverage.., instead of just voting them, because that isn't enough.
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The majority of the US population chose Donald Trump. Democracy means we cannot have what we want all the time. Its time the left learns that in the US the hard way. At least you can rest assured that he can't possibly be worse than George Bush.
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actually i think the "majority" population voted clinton. defnintately not by total area of the country though, just in big cities....
we dont know about how good or bad he will be. that is exactly why "we" choose a new one every 4-8 years!
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The majority of the US population chose Donald Trump.
No, they didn't and this is exactly the main thing which should change in the US. Their election system is over the hill. Just like certain laws which were really, really useful in 1776, they are outdated now and should be changed into something more fitting to the 21st century.
@kevino: I teach at a school which is comparable to highschool, and I notice that kids are being "softer" than before in various ways. When I went to school myself, you were a loser if your parents brought you to school in a car. If they had to for some reason, you asked them if they could drop you a few blocks down, so nobody at school would see it.
Today the kids are being dropped off right in front of the school door, even when the trip by bike is only 15 minutes or something for them. And they are not ashamed at all, they talk to each other in class "Oh, are you by car? Oh, cool" stuff like that. It doesn't have to be extreme weather even, so I don't know where this came from.
And this is only one example. I guess it gets into colleges and universities too. I heard some years ago that universities were having information evenings for partens of students these days , just like at school (where the oarents can talk to teachers for a few minutes about their kid's results etc). That was totally out of the question when I was still a student: my parents never set foot into my university as long as I was there. They only came to see me graduate :)
Maybe I'm just getting old ;)
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no your just an ADULT god damn they are 18 + years old..... ;D
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I agree, Sanders would have been a much tougher opposition to Trump, and I would have preferred him over Hillary any day, unfortunately Clinton's friends in the DNC actively sabotaged Sanders's campaign from within. As reported by Wikileaks, not by Trump campaign, mind you. So much for fair primaries...
...and then Clinton, already the easiest political target in the US, fell to the oldest trick in the book: trolling. Trump "accidentally" lets out a gaffe, Hillary camp bites into it like rabid piranhas, and forgets to convey what was her agenda, if any. See, Sanders actually had clear ideas how issues should be solved. Clinton's version - as conveyed by the local media - soon devolved into "please tell us what you would like us to do". It's nice to listen to the people but at some point you have to take leadership if you want to be a leader. Values are great in a mission statement, but people who want change need concrete action plans.
The final mistake was when Hillary started targeting not Trump, but Trump's voters. Amidst all the muckraking, the infamous "deplorables" line was a new bottom low. It was as if swing voters did not exist and would suddenly feel guilty instead of enraged when being called names.
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The social media outrage amazingly still continues unabated. It seems to have cyclic movement, people wind down in the evening and wake up relatively peaceful, but as the day rolls towards evening, they become more and more frenzied due to exposure to social media forming a feedback loop. And I'm becoming rather embarassed at the columns in the newspapers when the editor starts the nth tirade on how her entire world collapsed overnight and she realized that the universe is evil and how can she tell about this to her children (won't anyone think of the children?). Though I'd like to see even one US artist keeping his or her word of moving to Canada if Trump gets elected. Considering the massive flow of emigrants after similar threats in 2000 and 2004, I am not exactly holding my breath... ::)
What is surreal though is that (according to news, though of course they only pick the juiciest subjects) there are demonstrators on the streets demanding an assassination of Trump. It did not go this far even when W. was elected first with popular minority, not even when he was re-elected. Two wrongs make one right? Democracy is acceptable only if it gives favourable results?
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If the election system constantly gives biased results, surely there would be at some point an initiative to change it? Even if the proportional method is kept, "winner takes all" is just stupid and practically guarantees a two-party system. I don't know the particulars, but has any US politician even tried to suggest a change? Silly me. Of course not, because politicians being politicians they think that next time they are going to use the system to win.
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I studied in both Indonesia and Australia. The difference is quite significant.
In Indonesia, the students are very social. You often have to belong to a groupie, otherwise you are the lone weirdos. But people are generally very friendly and reach out to you, try to understand you. However, if you are super omega "weeaboo" type of hopeless social pariah, then you will be quietly secluded. Of course, even collectivist society has its limits.
In Australia, there will be more variety of groups and individuals. But I can't help but notice that the dominant type is the mild kind of typical college frat boys who are exclusively white. They do a lot of "white people" stuff like experimenting with danger (irresponsible fireworks use, binge drinking, binge eating, reckless driving, and performing dangerous acrobatic stunts in public), and tried to bring foreigners to amuse them. Probably free healthcare afforded them to do so. They are not really racist, stayed within PC to avoid trouble, but quite a nuisance. My American friends are very skittish compared to those Aussie blokes and obsessed with personal safety and "grievous bodily harm". There are some social activists as well, which loved to open booths, held shocking public performances in campus grounds, gave away freebies, and so on. Last but not least, they are swamped with foreign students who looked like me, but don't mingle with people outside their fellow nationals.
Bernie is the missed opportunity that could have been. One of the leaked e-mails showed that the Democratic Party is corrupt as hell and simply sabotaged Sanders, and red carpeted Clinton into her candidacy.
About Trump though, he is starting to show his true colours: he is what a hardliner conservatives called a "cuck". Already he hide his promise about banning Muslims and called the opportunity to meet Obama "an honour". Those violent hecklers will be livid when they know that they are being cucked.
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I am pretty much amused by these kind of crowds:
http://theslot.jezebel.com/fuck-gary-johnson-1788736643
As if we need to sheepishly voted Hillary to avoid Trump catastrophe. What the hell?
Well, eff them and their Wall Street cronies. Also their morale high elite club. Thanks for alienating neutral people from liberal social agenda, which unfortunately we shared. Because to these folks, nothing is more important than being a liar PC. Talk the pro-LGBTQ talk, but receive money from middle east oils, who hangs LGBTQ people to death. Talk the global warming, but This is the sort of things that famous status quo establishment people would simply tolerate.
For classy people, honesty is still a good value, but most importantly, actions speaks louder than words. A person who helps minorities, but slipped a slur is far better than some whiny bragging SJWs who love to imply their imaginary activism contribution to discriminated people.
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I studied to become a teacher for one Semester, figured out it´s not my thing and then studied law. I graduated last year.
The difference between the Students is significant. During that one Semester of studying lectureship I hardly did anything and passed with As and Bs easily (Latin and History). Granted, it was the first Semester but from what I could see the next Semesters would have been easy on me too. The students were all friendly and I could come out with them just fine. Some courses you didn´t even have to attend. The professor told us we could just get the paper later. I didn´t feel challenged at all.
I applied for law the next Semester and the work for it was immense. The Students seemed more and more to be competetants as the Semesters passed by. A third of them left after the first 4 Semesters (Zwischenprüfung). Others later because they couldn´t stand the pressure of the final Exams. I heard rumors of Students hiding books in the library so others wouldn´t find them. I remember going to the Library pre Semester to lend a book about the topic of the next Semester because soon they would have been taken by others. Added to that the grading system is appaling. Having a "satisfactory" was quite an achievement.
It was funny to me hearing later that the Students of lectureship were on campus demonstrating how hard their studies were and how they protested against a reformation of their studies.
That being said, there is a huge variation of Students. More social ones (who imo are more likely to study anything related to arts or stuff that helps people) and those who are more competitive. Though law might be a special case. Naturally you have different personalities here and there.
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The majority of the US population chose Donald Trump.
No, they didn't and this is exactly the main thing which should change in the US. Their election system is over the hill. Just like certain laws which were really, really useful in 1776, they are outdated now and should be changed into something more fitting to the 21st century.
https://youtu.be/V6s7jB6-GoU i dunno man it seems to me its better than simple majority vote.
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The majority of the US population chose Donald Trump.
No, they didn't and this is exactly the main thing which should change in the US. Their election system is over the hill. Just like certain laws which were really, really useful in 1776, they are outdated now and should be changed into something more fitting to the 21st century.
https://youtu.be/V6s7jB6-GoU i dunno man it seems to me its better than simple majority vote.
I raise you with this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUS9mM8Xbbw
It's an unfair system. Watch part 2 as well to have the complete info.
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http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37953528
You have just been trolled!
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IMO the "winner takes all" rule is much more retarded than overweighing the votes from less populated states. But I wouldn't be so sure what way the results would change even if the "winner takes all" rule would be dropped. Now it's pointless to vote the other party if one has overwhelming majority anyway so these voters stay home. Eg. in California the amount of Republican voters could actually increase if their votes actually mattered.
And us Europeans shouldn't be too proud as long as we have the ridiculousness of our own in the election practices. For example in parliamentary elections many countries have the silly principle of "long lists", the Inner Party decides the preferred order of candidates and the proles and Outer Party get to only vote the list instead of individuals. Even more countries have the d'Hondt method, where you can vote for an individual but he or she gets the votes in proportion to the support of his/her party, so one candidate with 10 votes may get elected just by being in the right party whereas a candidate with 10 000 votes is not.
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http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37953528
You have just been trolled!
Well he isn't stupid, IIRC according to one poll (hehe) a large percentage of his voters is actually for Obamacare.
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IMO the "winner takes all" rule is much more retarded than overweighing the votes from less populated states.
Agreed, but why would less populated states be more important for national elections? All votes are gonna end up on a big pile anyway and then they will be counted. Without electoral college and "winner takes all" it really doesn't matter anymore if a vote is from a less populated state or not. Imagine that all votes would count (so no "winner takes all") but votes from less populated states have more weight. Wouldn't people from more populated states find this unfair and therefore maybe stay home and not vote? Or maybe even move to other states to have more influence?
About voting for lists: we have a system in which we do that, but you can also cast a "vote of preference" and when a candidate gets a certain amount of such votes, he/she gets a seat in parliament, even if he/she is last on the list. When introduced in the US together with percentage voting, maybe that would help diminish the negative effexcts of "list voting".
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The great meme war has ended , decisive trump victory :'(
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The worst is, that you do not know what you get once you got Trump.
Healthcare stays, Muslims will still be able to enter the States; that is 2 promises broken.
And I guess his core program will be to stay vague and erratic for the next 4 years.
How long was George W. Bush's political programm? 20 pages? Does Trump actually have one?
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That is actually better. Most politicians proposed bills after bills after bills, it never ends, it takes away time and budget to conduct hearings, meetings, votings, and all that routine BS.
At least in Indonesia, the new guy without any experiences stepped up, dig through the documents, and picked up the dusty but good ones to put into action. They put great ideas into work. The opposition ruling classes would scream "nothing new" in his achievement, but for the people down here, we finally saw something real. The healthcare for the poor that was promised, subsidy for compulsory formal education students, the fancy Scandinavian-like public transportation buses with free wifi, improved city-wide drainage systems (no flood in the last 2 years), bring back hundreds of trillions rupiahs of money from overseas to be taxed. What else?
The European ruling classes meanwhile, are pretty much disconnected from reality. Portraying positive image on the media, appeared nice towards foreign people. But when the immigrants commited crime, it goes as Theta or Siben described: the police was too afraid to prosecute them because of media backlash. It is the regular guy that suffer the robbery from some random minorities, and when they think, the suspect would receive proper legal process, but the police refused because of "race card" in play here. Meanwhile, the political elites would show their face to the media and flaunt their "tolerance" policy in unison. While the robbed guy protests, the media would help to patch the blemish by labelling them "fringe racist movement." Way to convince people to join the tolerance movement dumbass!
The same goes for my experience in Australia, nobody dared to criminalise indigenous people's robbery, because oh because... Some like me will rise above it as long as that "fellow minority" don't hurt me. But for those who lived there for decades and affected by it, I really understand why they would revolt. For years, we have been appeasing, apologising, promoting, and many other reconciliation efforts, but why these people won't move forward? In Asia, where people generally have no concept of PC, our high-expecting parents would cut our lunch money if we keep showing low grades as a sign of their desperation in motivating us. So the American says, "ditto for our government."
At least there will be no more excuses for minorities to commit criminal act, because this time, there will be improvement for everyone, they will be treated equally, not especially. There will be no political ammunition left for the liberals if this worked. Because, no longer the minority have to live in slums and poverty. They will live with your high standards of wealth, education, hygiene, safety, security, you name it. Yes they can. Barrack Obama, Condi Rice, Collin Powell can, why not some downrodden BLM member guy cannot? Or is it because the liberals would like to keep them that way, so they can have a cause to rally behind? There are more black people represented in government and Hollywood media than Asian people.
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https://youtu.be/GLG9g7BcjKs
This guy says it right.
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One more thing to fix US voting system: require mandatory ID check. As of now, you can apparently vote without an ID in most states and even in those states where ID check is in use, it is only "recommended" and nearly anything is accepted ("non-photo ID", gimme a break). Unsurprisingly, in the non-ID states it is possible for anyone, even foreigners, to register as a voter.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_ID_laws_in_the_United_States
Surprise surprise, Democrats complain that requiring an ID to vote is "discriminatory". Against whom? Illegal immigrants? Repeat voters? Illiterates who cannot fill in an ID card application?
In an honest election, only government-issued photo ID should be accepted.
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ID required to vote should only be the case if everyone is automatically provided with ID via a mechanism that doesn't rely on going to some rare physical location that has short opening hours.
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At least there will be no more excuses for minorities to commit criminal act, because this time, there will be improvement for everyone, they will be treated equally, not especially. There will be no political ammunition left for the liberals if this worked. Because, no longer the minority have to live in slums and poverty. They will live with your high standards of wealth, education, hygiene, safety, security, you name it. Yes they can. Barrack Obama, Condi Rice, Collin Powell can, why not some downrodden BLM member guy cannot? Or is it because the liberals would like to keep them that way, so they can have a cause to rally behind? There are more black people represented in government and Hollywood media than Asian people.
Oh lol. Let's talk in 4 years again. Maybe our parallel universes merged until then.
And maybe it's good to have another 4 years of republican-conservative-populist-erratic reign, just for people to remember what it is about.
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ID required to empty someone's bank account or being able to access their medical information should only be the case if everyone is automatically provided with ID via a mechanism that doesn't rely on going to some rare physical location that has short opening hours.
See what I did there?
Most of the countries of the world have mandatory ID cards, even in the rest a photo ID is usually required when dealing with the authorities/banks/etc., and in the real world all government offices are rare physical locations that have short opening hours, but there's this thing called "online application".
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So Putin called Trump on the phone and took him totally in. Like they would keep Assad and solve Syria together, establishing a long term friendship with each other.
How can the President-elect of a country, whichs biggest export good is freedom over all others, make friends with an autocrat like Putin?
As we already know, Mr Trump didn't understand what the USA are about. It appears to be some giant casino for him, and he is the most clever and greedy one who will probably take it all, selling out all other values.
Europe flanked by two empires of evil. While the evil seed is already growing in Europe as well. Hard times.
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ID required to empty someone's bank account or being able to access their medical information should only be the case if everyone is automatically provided with ID via a mechanism that doesn't rely on going to some rare physical location that has short opening hours.
See what I did there?
Most of the countries of the world have mandatory ID cards, even in the rest a photo ID is usually required when dealing with the authorities/banks/etc., and in the real world all government offices are rare physical locations that have short opening hours, but there's this thing called "online application".
I live somewhere where photo ID isn't mandatory and can be obtained by post. And yet I can't see anyone calling for ID to be required to vote here. Literally never heard anyone mention it.
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So Putin called Trump on the phone and took him totally in. Like they would keep Assad and solve Syria together, establishing a long term friendship with each other.
How can the President-elect of a country, whichs biggest export good is freedom over all others, make friends with an autocrat like Putin?
As we already know, Mr Trump didn't understand what the USA are about. It appears to be some giant casino for him, and he is the most clever and greedy one who will probably take it all, selling out all other values.
Europe flanked by two empires of evil. While the evil seed is already growing in Europe as well. Hard times.
I don't know why you are so negative about Putin.
Sure the guy is evil. But so do most of the powerful figures in Russia. You need controlled evil that is powerful enough to make the country stable. Otherwise, you can put in weakling, snowflake, bleeding heart Russian suitable to your liberal values, which will alienate most of the Russians who are still traditional, religious, and (sorry) backwards in terms of modern social views. Any ambitious oligarchs will took chance and topple the "affable" non-Putin guy. Good luck if he/she is as respected as Putin amongst their nuclear bunker guards. Otherwise, they might be selling those warheads to ISIL and other rich terrorists to fund their chance at toppling the weak leader. In short, we could have nuclear terrorists without Putin.
That is why your hero Merkel is very careful about Putin, after all, she is an ex-intel of Eastern Germany, she knows a lot more than we do. But, people still need to be careful at Putin's ambitions and foreign projections, which is perhaps to allay some domestic discontents.
But of course, Donald Trump's uncanny worship of Putin is unsettling. Either he understands and value the reason why Putin is in power or he simply likes being ridiculously ultra-nationalistic. But most rich oligarchs admire other people who can take care of messy businesses, instead of just talking the right language.
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Putin wants Trump to roll back the 2% Eu, Nato military budget thing, and says he can make Merkel sell him UK very cheap now its not a part of Eu anymore
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This is so straightforward, it is almost politically incorrect, because the incorrect is so correct:
Speech of senator Aodhán Ó Ríordáin in the upper house of the irish parliament on the election of Donald Trump, November 10th, 2016. (https://www.facebook.com/AodhanORiordain/videos/vb.210570272336539/1188963984497158/?type=2&theater)
:P
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Nothing is politically incorrect about that one. He is quite polite in voicing his disagreement with his leadership. That is as Irish Republicans as possible. A senator from a NATIONALIST born country if we are going to hold them by their words per words. Good thing that most Irish I known are very down to earth friendly.
What I can't stomach is their point of criticism. They pretend to care about religious minorities and immigrants, but ask every of those people they so cared about in front of the public. Long process, indifferent attitude, and picky at best. A few "lucky" people like Malala can escape the punishable third world cult groups, but for most of us down here or back in Malala's village, the situation is still the same whether Senator Ó Rìordáin is elected to the office or not. Forgotten, buried under tons of "other pressing matters", abandoned by the media. While these circles of liberal elites are patting each other backs for having rescued one girl and her family. There are thousands of Somalians out there in Kenyan refugee camps, hoping to get that ticket instead of joining Al-Shahab. But alas, they mean less to the media, bored audience, and government seeking reelection. So please, stop pretending to care about third world people and the victims. To good people like Senator Ó Ríordáin, sort your own problems first! Angry whites, the so-called "whitelash" are white people's problem, your problem, your fault, between you and your forgotten ones. If all, has little to do with the victims, e.g. minorities. Yes, I get a squinted eye look once in an Irish bar, but we were still friendly. If I were preaching political correctness, it would have ended up with bruises instead of a pint of Guiness.
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Remember when Trump was being booed and labeled as a bad loser for threatening to contest election results if he did not win? Oh, but it's Jill Stein and totally not HRC even though Huma has been whining in social media all the time.
Whenever the elections don't go their way, the Democrats seem to want a recount, a recount of a recount, etc. At least this time there should not be any "chads" to stare at with a magnifying glass. Ignoring of course the fact that the "anomaly" that prompted the entire recount case this time does not even exist when votes are normalized for ethnic background and income in the "suspect" counties.
I hope the Trump campaign now in turn contests the results in all "no ID required to register as a voter" states to exclude the votes of the millions of illegal immigrants excuse me, "brand loyal consumers" as the DNC calls them (considering that approximately 14% of non-citizens have managed to register to vote).
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It is alright, as long as it is legal, right? Actually, if not Johnson, I would like to see Stein won.
What I hate about those Hillary crowds are their shallow arrogance. They think Jill Stein and Gary Johnson are "diverting" votes away from HRC. What a load of unhinged arrogance this insufferable puberty juvenile crybabies say. I am not old enough to hang around conservative folks, but as the millenials I already realise that we change our minds too many times and so does our values. So I refuse to be grouped or forced to belong to certain beliefs. But they think, their choice is the correct one, they are beyond mistakes, infallible, beyond even the Pope, that they dared to undermine people that legally exercised their democratic rights to vote for Greens / Libertarians.
http://johntreed.com/blogs/john-t-reed-s-news-blog/political-correctness-is-newspeak
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So, recount did not bring any change or proof of tampering in any of the states involved, and Hillary's attempt to reverse the result in the Electoral College failed hilariously (more electors abandoned her than Trump!).
What next? Endless impeachment trials over some gaffe?
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(https://www2.pic-upload.de/img/32772281/gettyimages-646021766-e1488286681223.jpg)
I cannot think of any more degorative actions during an assembly than what Mrs Conway does.
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I cannot think of any more degorative actions during an assembly than what Mrs Conway does.
She is preparing to take a photo of the guests (you know, even a cellphone camera needs to be set up unlike the commmercials would have you believe), and decided that kneeling on the sofa she would be at better height and more stable than bending the knees. There is another photo showing her photographing the guests, but I guess the haters didn't want you to know that.
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@Dukat that was unacceptable, removed your latest post.
Judging by the pic, I assume this was the same meeting. Good for Trump on signing the deal actually.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/feb/28/donald-trump-sign-order-supporting-historically-bl/
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As much as it is a good thing, but private schooling your kids shouldn't be your first choice. These Republican Muricans are just like rich 1990s Indonesians. Very religious, very conservative, family-oriented (dynasty politics), character-building, self-reliant, less intervention from government. And yeah, I grew up in such environment, private schooled and all privileged.
But I'll still say this: if there is a decent public school, go there instead of the over expensive private school. Moreover, education starts from the family, so a reminder to (mostly) lazy Republican parents... yes, the child is family asset too, the family's not the paid tutors'. Paying doesn't mean solving the problem.
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so a reminder to (mostly) lazy Republican parents...
Well, I think it's a slight overstatement saying that "most republican kids" go to private schools. Democrats can have deep pockets with money too you know. :) Though I would agree with you that private schools may have a tendency to be privileged and sometimes kids being "spoiled".
Honestly, Pres. Trump was simply signing an order just to support these African American schools... which I hope anyone could agree. The way I see it, he's not exactly forcing African Americans to go into them, just supporting other people's views as seen in the quote below.
“That’s why ['education has the power to uplift, create equality, and justice'] today I am thrilled to be signing an executive order to recognize the importance of historically black colleges and universities — very important. [...]
Cheers!
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Let me me note that I did not express disrespect for any content contribution or poster, only for Mrs Conway, in outlines. I actually respect other political opinions, within a democratic frame, so I respect yours. You may express your opinions freely. Wasn't my intention to offend anyone.
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Granted, though your deleted comment probably should not have been said regardless. Especially on a public forum. :)
Regards