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A thing than some people here need to see..
« on: 21-04-2014, 23:04:48 »
Greetings guys

Do you remember about the ash 762 admins had on me? do you remember how some of them hated me? (not everyone but some) because of that Teamwork squad thing?

Well... lets say today i was banned from "liberating confidential information" about what 762 admins should do about me.

You see: the 762 server.. i mean, i showed up, created the Teamwork squad, and played my own way there... i liked to play, and it was cool.. but seems like some admins didnt enjoyed the way i played... they claimed than i was wasting people, and stuff like that...

So they wanted to take me out of the picture... but eventualy, they had a problem to face: their reputation. were they bein fair to ban someone just because of the way he plays? how would more people react to that? and so they discussed this secretly between themselfes...

Today, i was pissed off due to the constant uncap rape: wile others go for uncaps and kill everyone and dont even get kicked, i get kicked from bein like 50 metters from an uncap flag with my squad... that really pisses me off... wen i complain, admins told me than there were wrost problems in the world... but wen i do some shit, i get kicked for it.

Heres an screen shot of an post made by admins, discussing my situation: this was closed so no more people could see...



I didnt really wanted to reach this point... but for hell sake, im tired from getting constanly screwed by some people who just dont apreciate the way i play, and make sneaky maneuvers to screw me over...

I dont think some admins (note the word SOME) are trusthwortly as you guys think... but well, who i am here to be rigth on any topic? im just an 17 year old boy who is pretending to be next hitler - why should people even listen to me?


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Re: A thing than some people here need to see..
« Reply #1 on: 21-04-2014, 23:04:33 »
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Re: A thing than some people here need to see..
« Reply #2 on: 21-04-2014, 23:04:04 »
When an admin says A, you do A, not B. Even if you dislike A
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Re: A thing than some people here need to see..
« Reply #3 on: 21-04-2014, 23:04:21 »
Well dear players,

go ahead and read it. What you see is indeed a screenshot taken from what I wrote in our private serveradmin forum. As I stated in our public forum area, there is nothing on that screenshot that I would not repeat in public.

Just the admin in our team that took this screenshot from the internal area and gave it to Damaso - let's say his admin days are numbered. I do not respond well to breaches of confidence.
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Re: A thing than some people here need to see..
« Reply #4 on: 22-04-2014, 00:04:38 »
Well dear players,

go ahead and read it. What you see is indeed a screenshot taken from what I wrote in our private serveradmin forum. As I stated in our public forum area, there is nothing on that screenshot that I would not repeat in public.

Just the admin in our team that took this screenshot from the internal area and gave it to Damaso - let's say his admin days are numbered. I do not respond well to breaches of confidence.

Btw odium: does my ban has anything to do with this "leack of information"?

or is it for real about that "teamkill" in the mainbase in wich only 1 guy died, wasnt on prupose, and he was even from my squad?

Also, if its something cool wich the public could know about it, why did it got censored at the first time? why did this post got censored as well for some minutes, and why did the pic on 762 admin site was removed?

I just asked for justice... but wen i complained about what happened on the server, you said exacly this:

"First time I have ever replied that to a player, but: TLDR (too long, didn't read)."
« Last Edit: 22-04-2014, 00:04:33 by Damaso »

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Re: A thing than some people here need to see..
« Reply #5 on: 22-04-2014, 00:04:45 »
Hold on.............










Ok. Please continue.

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Re: A thing than some people here need to see..
« Reply #6 on: 22-04-2014, 00:04:47 »
To answer you, your now permanent ban (it started as a 4-week ban earlier today, for repeated teamkilling with 3kg in the mainbase) is because of your first post in this thread.

Reading that first post, Sandre and I do not get the feeling that you wish to play on [762] any longer.

Nor do we wish to have a player (I mean YOU) on our servers who constantly tries to exploit rules, wastes assets, insults players, multiplies assets, teamkills... I could continue but - I do not wish to any longer.
So, have fun on another server, Damaso. I hope it was worth it.
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Re: A thing than some people here need to see..
« Reply #7 on: 22-04-2014, 00:04:31 »
I don't know about your playstyle, Damaso, maybe it is dirty and not helping the gameplay in the way it is meant to be on 762. But maybe you're just trolling and breaking the rules.

I have some different viewpoints regarding gameplay as well, but after having advocated for changes when it was discussed, there is nothing more I can do either. And I accepted it.

Actually, the ability to kick people camping uncaps by descretion of the admin is a Carte Blanche to all sorts of arbitrariness.

But in the end it is their server. If they don't like you, they can expell you. And there is no real justice on the internet, at best you get the dictation of a majority, at worst the dictation of a single man.

In case of a game where only one server is available, this might be crucial if the server hoster is not the developer of the game, but that is the problem of others now.

Ownership/dictatorship is not like western democracies, where assumed, fundamental rights of single individuals are necessarily being respected. Think about your claimed individual rights in a political system when you speak about creating women concentration camps again.
« Last Edit: 22-04-2014, 00:04:18 by Dukat »

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Re: A thing than some people here need to see..
« Reply #8 on: 22-04-2014, 00:04:53 »
To answer you, your now permanent ban (it started as a 4-week ban earlier today, for repeated teamkilling with 3kg in the mainbase) is because of your first post in this thread.

Reading that first post, Sandre and I do not get the feeling that you wish to play on [762] any longer.

Nor do we wish to have a player (I mean YOU) on our servers who constantly tries to exploit rules, wastes assets, insults players, multiplies assets, teamkills... I could continue but - I do not wish to any longer.
So, have fun on another server, Damaso. I hope it was worth it.

Thats... thats bullshit!

I didnt teamkilled anyone today with an 3kg geballe launch on mainbase! That was even with an stachel, it wasnt on prupose, and it was on british main!

Also, i didnt disrespected the rules (ataking uncaps, wasting assets, multiplying kits, insult players, ect...)
so i guess you are bein unfair... totaly unfair with my situation!

And even if that was true (because its not surely true) do you perma ban people because of this?

No: you perma-ban me because of the leak of information.

You perma-banned me because this pic isnt nice for your reputation... you perma-ban me because of that, and not because of disrespecting rules.

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Re: A thing than some people here need to see..
« Reply #9 on: 22-04-2014, 00:04:21 »
Ownership/dictatorship is not like western democracies, where assumed, fundamental rights of single individuals are necessarily being respected. Think about your claimed individual rights in a political system when you speak about creating women concentration camps again.

(i dont believe you took it seriously about building woman concentration camps..)

And no, im not a troll at all. yeah i can joke one time or another, but nothing than pretends to piss someone really hard... (like building woman concentration camps)

But i never aimed to troll the comunity/server at this point... im not trolling wen i decide to create an squad in wich everyone stays together and does stuff like if it was real war... its about having fun!

you only join if you want to...

Also, the question is: by exluding someone from their server because they just dont like the way he plays.. are their bein imparcial and rigth as they claim they are?

Still, i believe not all admins there are unfair at all... note than i always tried to colaborate with them, and bein friendly... remember that mortar bug? i didnt did it anymore since admins forbibed me to do it...

« Last Edit: 22-04-2014, 00:04:14 by Damaso »

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Re: A thing than some people here need to see..
« Reply #10 on: 22-04-2014, 00:04:27 »
My problem with you ingame is limited to doing stuff like you do whenever Invasion of Crete is played. Abuse the fact that the Ju 51's spawn in an infinite amount and you telling your squad-sheep to pick them until everyone has one, in order to make "an epic flyover". So you can be happy.

Meanwhile everyone else is pissed because ten players are wasted and your team can not do anything to win the map, because 10 people are doing nothing. That's something I very much want you to get kicked for (kicked. Not banned). It's selfish and goes on cost of up to 118 other players on the server.

So you should not wonder when admins don't appraoch you in the friendliest way. Play like normal players and don't abuse bugs. A permanent ban solves the admins problems with you. I don't want to judge if it's fair. In my opinion permanent bans are the wrong way to handle things when there is only 1 server to play on. I believe that a 2 or 3 month break can even make the most stupid people more careful about what they say and do. But that's not my business and I didn't see all the stuff you did.

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Re: A thing than some people here need to see..
« Reply #11 on: 22-04-2014, 00:04:28 »
My problem with you ingame is limited to doing stuff like you do whenever Invasion of Crete is played. Abuse the fact that the Ju 51's spawn in an infinite amount and you telling your squad-sheep to pick them until everyone has one, in order to make "an epic flyover". So you can be happy.

Meanwhile everyone else is pissed because ten players are wasted and your team can not do anything to win the map, because 10 people are doing nothing. That's something I very much want you to get kicked for (kicked. Not banned). It's selfish and goes on cost of up to 118 other players on the server.

So you should not wonder when admins don't appraoch you in the friendliest way. Play like normal players and don't abuse bugs. A permanent ban solves the admins problems with you. I don't want to judge if it's fair. In my opinion permanent bans are the wrong way to handle things when there is only 1 server to play on. I believe that a 2 or 3 month break can even make the most stupid people more careful about what they say and do. But that's not my business and I didn't see all the stuff you did.

They didnt perma-banned me because i breaked rules... they did it because of the leack of information (Odium's image above)

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Re: A thing than some people here need to see..
« Reply #12 on: 22-04-2014, 00:04:14 »
Surfbird,

no offense, but what do you do when someone forces you to ban him again and again by breaking rules,
testing out limits, provoking your volunteer admins, offending your regular players, hampering gameplay, abusing glitches in the mod (kit multiplication).

I do not care about what Damaso wrote in his "Theory/Suicide/New world order" threads,
I just take note of it.

The permanent ban is about how he gives false information about our actions against him. We do our best to create an open for everyone gameplay environment. Damaso abused our good will and our efforts.

I will not stand in and watch him lie about our ingame admin's actions against him. They did their job.
Now I have to do mine.
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Re: A thing than some people here need to see..
« Reply #13 on: 22-04-2014, 00:04:24 »
Surfbird,

no offense, but what do you do when someone forces you to ban him again and again by breaking rules,
testing out limits, provoking your volunteer admins, offending your regular players, hampering gameplay, abusing glitches in the mod (kit multiplication).

I do not care about what Damaso wrote in his "Theory/Suicide/New world order" threads,
I just take note of it.

The permanent ban is about how he gives false information about our actions against him. We do our best to create an open for everyone gameplay environment. Damaso abused our good will and our efforts.

I will not stand in and watch him lie about our ingame admin's actions against him. They did their job.
Now I have to do mine.

Odium...

I didnt lied about admins... i didnt constantly breaked rules.. im not fooling anyone here...

If i wanted to do so, and if i didnt really cared about it, i could just do the mortar bug again and again and again... how many times since the last warning about mortar bugs did you saw me doing it again?

I asked for justice... i asked why the others go to uncap flags and no kicks are given to them, but wen i stay 50 metters from a uncap i get kicked straigth away... i asked for imparciality, and all you said is than the post was too long to read...

How many people were already victims of similar plots? is it fair to create plots against players who break rules? why didnt you just straigth away banned me if i breaked any rule?

Because i didnt broke any rule.

You have no clear 100% reason to ban me... the real situation was due to the leack of information.. obviously, you woulndt like more people to know about this... as you stated before: "we have a reputation to loose" (and i hope to make it clear than i dont really aim to destroy 762 reputation... actually, i like 762, and i believe there are cool guys on it... but things were kinda out of justice.)
« Last Edit: 22-04-2014, 00:04:23 by Damaso »

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Re: A thing than some people here need to see..
« Reply #14 on: 22-04-2014, 00:04:32 »
No more attention for you. Good night and have a nice life, Damaso.
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