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Hi,
Recently, a free-to-play WWII MMOFPS (although I fail to see how max 24 players on a server is an MMO) was released called Army Rage. However, after the first gameplay footage started to come out, people started noticing similarities between it and games/mods from the Battlefield franchise, going as far back as BF1942.
One of the mod devs started digging further and noticed most of the art assets had been lifted from a variety of WWII-themed games & mods.
My question is: what sort of real life copyright do mods actually have, and how would a mod team go about claiming copyright infringement and shutting infringers down? What about monetary compensation?
- Paasky
ps. for more info, a dev has made a comprehensive comparison: http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/armyrage/
I also sent a question about this to mailbox@cynicalbrit.com Although I did make care to ask about the general issue, and not mention FH directly, so it wouldn't look like advertising:That's a good one.QuoteHi,
Recently, a free-to-play WWII MMOFPS (although I fail to see how max 24 players on a server is an MMO) was released called Army Rage. However, after the first gameplay footage started to come out, people started noticing similarities between it and games/mods from the Battlefield franchise, going as far back as BF1942.
One of the mod devs started digging further and noticed most of the art assets had been lifted from a variety of WWII-themed games & mods.
My question is: what sort of real life copyright do mods actually have, and how would a mod team go about claiming copyright infringement and shutting infringers down? What about monetary compensation?
- Paasky
ps. for more info, a dev has made a comprehensive comparison: http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/armyrage/
I wouldnt be surprised if there is no actual office there.
Has anyone been in contact with EA or DICE? since they have clearly stolen from them as well. EA's black helicopters might do some good here ;)Meanwhile, near a small fishing village not far from Beijing
I think that comments on officials will be deleted quite quickly.Yes, but they can't delete in no-time, so if we keep posting them, they will be generally visible there. Just don't spam, if the last comment hasn't been deleted yet, thumb it up, instead of posting new one.
Thumb up comments here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJ9yWeqXZlo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=av-R0jBCnyE
Will the game be on Steam (a gaming platform made by Valve - which is heavily populated by a big mass of the players)?
itsmesarvan 1 day ago
Hi there,
Our plan is soon to be there :)
Maybe its more effective to flag the youtube videos?
Maybe its more effective to flag the youtube videos?If you do that, only flag the videos uploaded by the official channel, don't be a dick and flag someone's legit LP or review video.
Rabblerabblerabble!DEY took UR MODELLS
@ArmyRage: "A presentation of one of the best bolt-action rifles in the game - The M1 Garand!"
:)
I am shocked, Shocked to find out a country with such stringent copyright laws & protection as China could have spawned such a game.
I also like how they're calling it an MMOFPS, with servers of up to 24 players!
Looks like they have deleted all of the comments made to there clips. And I have been blocked to post any new ones. I think posting on youtube won't work. We need some bigger guns.
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I tried to convey the message and appealed them to not support it this way. Copy my text below or create something own, but take some minutes for it, so the problem is clear to everyone without any background knowledge. That way, youtube is the right platform to work with and if we constantly keep up the spam, we damage that company quite a lot and prevent players from supporting this game, just my 2 Cents:
IMPORTANT, PLEASE READ:
Army Rage stole tons of textures of weapons, tanks as well as several gun sounds and other stuff from Forgotten Hope 1 mod for Bf1942, Forgotten Hope 2 mod for Battlefield 2, things from the original Battlefield 1942 and some other sources.
This is a copyright infringement and this game will be taken down earlier or later. Please do NOT support this game and do NOT spend any money on it, it is most likely wasted. The law is alredy behind them, its a matter of time !
In a way this whole thing has a quite positive side to it.That would be great, I don't get it how such a crappy game has more players than FH2. ???
After Army Rage is closed down, and with the attention drawn to FH2, this might bring allot of "fresh blood" from new players to FH2. This is quite a marketing oppurtunity IMHO
That would be great, I don't get it how such a crappy game has more players than FH2. ???Because it's free (FH need battlefield to run), new, simple, unaccurate and fucking stupid. People love that
*pay to winThat would be great, I don't get it how such a crappy game has more players than FH2. ???Because it's free (FH need battlefield to run), new, simple, unaccurate and fucking stupid. People love that
because they are actually making money with content of EA, Valve, FH2, etc, you have a damn good reason to ask for your share of the money, and if they refuse, bury them under lawsuits including plagiarism, theft, fraud and whatnot. For maximum effect each of the devs should make a separate case for their specific content
I'm pretty sure Remdul is in contact with them. He isn't doing this the first time.
because they are actually making money with content of EA, Valve, FH2, etc, you have a damn good reason to ask for your share of the money, and if they refuse, bury them under lawsuits including plagiarism, theft, fraud and whatnot. For maximum effect each of the devs should make a separate case for their specific content
Will you pay the lawyers? ;)
We can bring this issue for people, but for something to happen, we must just wait for Valve or EA to fire the big guns.
We should create a couple of our own youtube-videos that reveal the fraud that is Army Rage. Then mobilize and bring up the number of views and likes. Hopefully, that will get our videos far up in the search list.
We should create a couple of our own youtube-videos that reveal the fraud that is Army Rage. Then mobilize and bring up the number of views and likes. Hopefully, that will get our videos far up in the search list.
this is chinese website http://www.finalbattle.cn/Very unlikely that distribution in China will be affected I think.
in chinese they call army rage is finalbattle
Or /v/.... :oMost like full of buttmad Army Rage fanboys.
As someone stated, this thing is good advertising for FH2. Already seen some new people on hslan, maybe bit more than usually.
Also, googling army rage brings the "Forgotten Hope vs. Army Rage" page nicely on first page.
Valter.Feu3r, I want to thank you for fighting the good fight in Chinese forums on behalf of our community.
http://www.armyrage.com/forum/yaf_postst986_Army-Rage-Stealing--Important-Plz-Read.aspx
:P
Hello,
I saw this thread and I just had to respond. The allegations made by the FH2 team are true and supported by facts.
http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/armyrage/
The argument that both games would have texture sheets, sky dome models, sounds, uv maps and other technical "resemblances" because they are both based upon ww2 and aim for a realistic portrayal of the period is foolish! These game assets are made by individual people and do not come from some central database of pre-fabricated parts...for two games or mods to have 1:1 identical assets means either 1: the two teams worked together to make the content, 2: said content was used from a third party who allows that content to be used by the public, or 3: some one used the other's content with or without permission.
In the cases outlined by the FH2 team, all of them are from the latter case: Army Rage uses FH2 content without permission.
FH2 is a mod for Battlefield 2. The Forgotten Hope team has been modding using the Battlefield series since 2004, when they worked on FH1 for BF42. Both mods are free and use 100% their own made content or content used with permission of the original author/artist. Both mods have been celebrated for their work on sites such as modDB: http://www.moddb.com/
The issue that the FH2 modders have with Army Rage is that they are using the content they made and worked hard on without their permission and, even worse, Army Rage is charging money from premium purchases when their game uses so much copied content.
This is a matter of ethics and responsibility towards the consumer.
I am a member of the FH community since 2004 and I am also a beta tester for the mod. I enjoy WW2 games and play a lot of them. I do not support projects that are found to be using illegal content.
The hope of all this is to educate the consumers and gaming public and to do what is right.Quote from: {SS}Neiko;6545i've read a couple of threads and it wont surprise me if they actually attack this one, they are already attacking and flagging youtube videos with army rage gameplay, pretty soon the you know what will hit the fan.
i've changed my password to a more secure one but that wont matter if they know what to do... anyway.
There is no need for that. FH2 is a mod, not some hacker community looking for people's personal information. They make and play games because it is their passion. :)
I am sure this post will be deleted, but I had to at least make the effort. I only signed up to play this game to investigate if the allegations I heard were true.
*note, this issue was brought up before the FH2 devs even knew this game existed...the community brought it to their attention.*
~ Wilhelm
Wilhelm.. it has less similarities once again of FH compared to Wolfenstein. Even if what you're saying is true, they're still allow to base ideas off of a mod. Can you provide a copyright license for your mod? What is it protected under, etc. Yo claim the community isn't a hacker community, but the way they're dealing with this issue is pathetic. A mob is being started out of irrational feelings. The whole deal makes FH look like a pathetic community, no two ways about it. Show us the proof with examples and you explaining in detail without giving just a "reponse". Once again, it's quite pitiful and what Will says at the moment to all who are wondering is not true.
I wouldn't waste much energy on this. These people on that forum are fans, they don't know how textures or modeling works. For them it's just the FH2 teams word against that of the army rage team. Why should they believe us?
i've read a couple of threads and it wont surprise me if they actually attack this one, they are already attacking and flagging youtube videos with army rage gameplay, pretty soon the you know what will hit the fan.
i've changed my password to a more secure one but that wont matter if they know what to do... anyway.
oh yeah.... they seem to have a problem with the SS clan tag being used in a ww2 game even tho SS stands for soul society and not the waffen SS
here's hoping for the best.
Id find it particularly amusing if they used one of the models with the dev's name already "stamped" into it.. The spent casing with ctz's name for example, that would be about as concrete as it gets. I imagine they could probably wipe those but im completely ignorant of modding so idk.Did you see this texture extracted from army rage (Remdul's post):
Id find it particularly amusing if they used one of the models with the dev's name already "stamped" into it.. The spent casing with ctz's name for example, that would be about as concrete as it gets. I imagine they could probably wipe those but im completely ignorant of modding so idk.Did you see this texture extracted from army rage (Remdul's post):
(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/armyrage/guardhouse.jpg)
They have removed the signatures from most of the tectures, but not from this one. To me this speaks louder than all other proof, which there is plenty. If they didn't bother with creating this relatively simple model and texture, it is very likely that all other models and textures have been taken from other games/mods as well.
:)They say, The copy files is made by outsourcing. Not made by armyrage production team. They negligence the outsourcing, So this is the origin of this thing. ???
Looking at this game i start wondering, who plays something like this? i would never consider it in my life.
Mind Translating?Google translate?
I especially love this post from that thread on ArmyRage ;DQuotei've read a couple of threads and it wont surprise me if they actually attack this one, they are already attacking and flagging youtube videos with army rage gameplay, pretty soon the you know what will hit the fan.
i've changed my password to a more secure one but that wont matter if they know what to do... anyway.
oh yeah.... they seem to have a problem with the SS clan tag being used in a ww2 game even tho SS stands for soul society and not the waffen SS
here's hoping for the best.
I can't stop laughing :D
But it's great. In not even a week we got the attention of a lot of people, even on the ArmyRage forums. No matter if they really understand the problem about this, they know about it. I guess the rumors of ArmyRage stealing textures and sounds are going to spread in the community in the few weeks. There is a big part of people that does not care anyway. But there are definately people that care and spread the rumors further.
When even the community knows about it, then the ArmyRage officials can most likely not go on the way they did before and have to handle the issue honestly.
What's probably needed right now is to present the facts clearly so there is no doubt they stole that stuff.
Best way, as mentioned before: A comparance by making a youtube video about it. The easiest way to visualize the problem to the people. The link provided by the devs is great too, but I feel it's not clear enough for a lot of people I guess.
I unfortunately did not make a video yet and don't reall know how to do it. Does anyone have experience with that ? The content could be discussed in this thread, because there are some things that show up the plagiarism more than others, like the Bazooka sound.
Maybe introducing more concrete proof brings us a few steps forward now, since a lot of people, as mentioned, noticed the accuses now and they will spread further as long as we keep the youtube comments up.
Mind Translating?Google translate?
I especially love this post from that thread on ArmyRage ;DQuotei've read a couple of threads and it wont surprise me if they actually attack this one, they are already attacking and flagging youtube videos with army rage gameplay, pretty soon the you know what will hit the fan.
i've changed my password to a more secure one but that wont matter if they know what to do... anyway.
oh yeah.... they seem to have a problem with the SS clan tag being used in a ww2 game even tho SS stands for soul society and not the waffen SS
here's hoping for the best.
I can't stop laughing :D
But it's great. In not even a week we got the attention of a lot of people, even on the ArmyRage forums. No matter if they really understand the problem about this, they know about it. I guess the rumors of ArmyRage stealing textures and sounds are going to spread in the community in the few weeks. There is a big part of people that does not care anyway. But there are definately people that care and spread the rumors further.
When even the community knows about it, then the ArmyRage officials can most likely not go on the way they did before and have to handle the issue honestly.
What's probably needed right now is to present the facts clearly so there is no doubt they stole that stuff.
Best way, as mentioned before: A comparance by making a youtube video about it. The easiest way to visualize the problem to the people. The link provided by the devs is great too, but I feel it's not clear enough for a lot of people I guess.
I unfortunately did not make a video yet and don't reall know how to do it. Does anyone have experience with that ? The content could be discussed in this thread, because there are some things that show up the plagiarism more than others, like the Bazooka sound.
Maybe introducing more concrete proof brings us a few steps forward now, since a lot of people, as mentioned, noticed the accuses now and they will spread further as long as we keep the youtube comments up.
may i ask what exactly is so funny in my post ?
is it the fact that you people are so stupid in thinking that a clan with SS tags is automatically something wrong or the fact that you guys got butthurt when the army rage youtube channel and facebook page got moderated and you couldnt do shit to them.
just stick to playing the game and well do the same and let the big shots sort their shit out, white knighting wont bring you anything.
to be honest this is the best thing that could have happened to this mod because it doesn't seem to be that popular.
is it the fact that you people are so stupid in thinking that a clan with SS tags is automatically something wrong or the fact that you guys got butthurt when the army rage youtube channel and facebook page got moderated and you couldnt do shit to them.
At least they didn't steal stuff from other games, and as for "not popular" just check who won Moddb Mod of the year award. I would love to see Army rage do that.
Red herrings, straw men and ad hominem all over the shop.I especially love this post from that thread on ArmyRage ;DQuotei've read a couple of threads and it wont surprise me if they actually attack this one, they are already attacking and flagging youtube videos with army rage gameplay, pretty soon the you know what will hit the fan.
i've changed my password to a more secure one but that wont matter if they know what to do... anyway.
oh yeah.... they seem to have a problem with the SS clan tag being used in a ww2 game even tho SS stands for soul society and not the waffen SS
here's hoping for the best.
I can't stop laughing :D
But it's great. In not even a week we got the attention of a lot of people, even on the ArmyRage forums. No matter if they really understand the problem about this, they know about it. I guess the rumors of ArmyRage stealing textures and sounds are going to spread in the community in the few weeks. There is a big part of people that does not care anyway. But there are definately people that care and spread the rumors further.
When even the community knows about it, then the ArmyRage officials can most likely not go on the way they did before and have to handle the issue honestly.
What's probably needed right now is to present the facts clearly so there is no doubt they stole that stuff.
Best way, as mentioned before: A comparance by making a youtube video about it. The easiest way to visualize the problem to the people. The link provided by the devs is great too, but I feel it's not clear enough for a lot of people I guess.
I unfortunately did not make a video yet and don't reall know how to do it. Does anyone have experience with that ? The content could be discussed in this thread, because there are some things that show up the plagiarism more than others, like the Bazooka sound.
Maybe introducing more concrete proof brings us a few steps forward now, since a lot of people, as mentioned, noticed the accuses now and they will spread further as long as we keep the youtube comments up.
may i ask what exactly is so funny in my post ?
is it the fact that you people are so stupid in thinking that a clan with SS tags is automatically something wrong or the fact that you guys got butthurt when the army rage youtube channel and facebook page got moderated and you couldnt do shit to them.
just stick to playing the game and well do the same and let the big shots sort their shit out, white knighting wont bring you anything.
to be honest this is the best thing that could have happened to this mod because it doesn't seem to be that popular.
In addition, FH2-Developer Lightning could well be only person on this planet, who has succeded in convinving the torrent-site Pirate-Bay to remove a link from its index. This being the link to the leaked FH2-Betaversion in 2007.Did I really? I don't remember that at all...
For those who cant understand google translate or those who like proper english:
BF/FH2: Fighting against presumed Plagiarism-Shooter
A firm rule, which we at BF-Games have followed for years, goes as follows: We do not report on mods which use content without permission, stealing from other people and teams. As well as there is an unwritten gentleman’s agreement between mod-teams worldwide. If you do borrow content, like models, skins, sounds or maps, ask the creator, and if he authorizes the usage, mention him in the credits. Of course there are smaller mod-teams or individuals which do not follow the rules, but due to the lack of coverage, and the following lack of attention, these occurrences quickly fade into obscurity, where they belong. How does it look however, when a company apparently combines massive amounts of content from other developers and uses it to create a game? That's the topic of today's article.
FH, FH2, BF2, BF1942 and DoD as self-service shop?
Fans of the WW2 scenario, especially the FH2 developers, take a close look at every new shooter in this setting. On the one hand as fans, and of course to follow new ideas and concepts of other developers. As has happened with a new, superficially free WW2-Shooter titled Army Rage (http://www.armyrage.com/#) from a chinese developer called Tuyasoft. Of course it quickly requires payment for skins, items and weapons (similar to BF Heroes).
While playing the playable beta version for the first time, Forgotten Hope 2 Developer Remdul, noticed some, to his eyes, oddly familiar material. Investigating the unzipped game files he found a lot more. As detailed on the Information Page (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/armyrage/) from FH2, textures (tanks, Skybox(PHL), weapons, etc.), models like the FH2-Coupe, sand bags from Day of Defeat: Source, landing boats from BF1942 and countless sounds, have been allegedly extracted from the games and mods mentioned by Remdul. For more information we recommend the info page (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/armyrage/) mentioned above and the corresponding Topic in the Forgotten Hope Forums (http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?topic=17210.0). Take a look at the situation yourselves.
What now? Get active!
This is not the first time that the FH-Team has fought against alleged plagiarism (in fact succesful as this example shows (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/fancygoal/)).
In addition, FH2-Developer Lightning could well be only person on this planet, who has succeeded in convincing the torrent-site Pirate-Bay to remove a link from its index. This being the link to the leaked FH2-Betaversion in 2007.
The situation of this case is, according to Remdul, currently as follows:
At first emails to the Publisher Yacuba Games (CEO Delzar Khalaf) were ignored, then they claimed that the offending content had been deleted or created new. Which however proved to be false after taking another look at the files. Both companies service providers have been informed about the situation, with the intention of taking the website offline.
Additionally, Eletronic Arts / Dice in Sweden have the case sitting on their desks. Legally it might prove to take some time, with a developer from China and publisher from Bulgaria.
Tuyasoft, the game's Developer has supposedly obtained content from a external art-team.
Now, what can the community do?
For that we quote from FH2-Dev Remdul's original forum post (http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?topic=17210.0) with many useful links:
"So, the FH team needs your help. We ask you to post comments, e-mails, reviews, tweets, youtubes, reddits, slashdots; in your own wording and to your own discretion, what you think about this matter. We hope that, as result, no informed gamer will waste their money on the cheap knockoff title that "Army Rage" strives to be. Please note that while Yacuba Games and Tuyasoft are engaging in illegal activities, we will NOT accept personal attacks on individuals involved with these companies. Do not attempt anything illegal. Shame them, expose them, let them know how you feel, but remember that "two wrongs do not make a right". Keep things honest and respectable."
With Lobo gone his legends fade into you. Don't break down your own propaganda campaign. You are like that one Roman consul who got the feats of 2 of his family members on his own name.QuoteIn addition, FH2-Developer Lightning could well be only person on this planet, who has succeded in convinving the torrent-site Pirate-Bay to remove a link from its index. This being the link to the leaked FH2-Betaversion in 2007.Did I really? I don't remember that at all...
Yeah the guy with the SS clan tag lol
well tell the folks at BF-games.....
Pardon me but since I live in a "Third world Shithole" as one of my fellow players put, could someone tell me what jan_kurator meant?He doesn't know if Poland is a "Third world Shithole" or not.
[IMG]http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/2883/armyrage.png[/IMG]Here is that picket sign I promised:
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I hate Army Rage so much, that I used scrap material that didn't work out, doodled with MSpaint for some 30 minutes, and applied a lame filter. They are not worth any actual art so enjoy! And... sorry for the profanity, but its the best way to express my feelings.
Pardon me but since I live in a "Third world Shithole" as one of my fellow players put, could someone tell me what jan_kurator meant?
...I wonder if some people could see it better if say every game that have had a version of the FG42 were compared side to side. This would make the copying clear and similarity separate....
Pardon me but since I live in a "Third world Shithole" as one of my fellow players put, could someone tell me what jan_kurator meant?I have been to poland, its an amazing country and far FAR from a 'third world shithole'
Theta was 5 days in Poland he thinks this country is a paradise ;D2 weeks in wich i saw krakow, warshau, zakopana and the areas around them.
Anything new?
Anything new?
Pls if you want to speak about Poland, start a new offtopic Thread. Thank you Guys :)
- Added ZB.vz.26. It is the new default weapon for Support.
- Added a new weapon AVS-36, it's a semi-auto rifle for Assault and Scout. Unlocks at level 3.
- Added a new weapon PzB38 Anti-Tank Rifle, which unlocks at level 9.
- Added the PzB39 Anti-Tank Rifle as a new rare weapon.
- Added the M1919A3 Browning Machine Gun as a new Building Package, which unlocks at level 15.
Isn't Poland part of the Second Wold? Seeing as it was part of the Soviet Union's domain back when the phrases were coined. First world is the west, second world Russia and their iron curtain etc, and third world countries that weren't (directly) involved.
IMO the best outcome would be them keeping the models, but acknowledging that they are from FH2, maybe even doing some ingame advertising.Yeah well, too bad that game looks like crap, even with FH2 models ::). Not really great advertising imho.
I've made an update to the page: http://www.fhmod.org/armyrage/
"site not found"Check for dangly wires. Works fine here.
Its been almost two years since Rad passed, hopefully the shit game his work has been stolen by, will collapse.
Do you think that people who don't play FH2 daily will care about breaking copyrights? I bet not.... ::)
Maybe they'll be inclined to take down the site, or maybe suspend it for a while.Not a bad idea tbh. Bring 'em down!
Just came to my mind, would there be any chance, to convince youtube to put down all armyrage videos? Surely this is as big copyright issue as using some copyrighted music on some video?
But if you ever go to road of asking to take down their website, wouldn't it be nice side effect to take their youtube channel down with it.Just came to my mind, would there be any chance, to convince youtube to put down all armyrage videos? Surely this is as big copyright issue as using some copyrighted music on some video?
I don't believe in censorship. Their Youtube videos are probably the best evidence against them.
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Just saw that Yacuba representatives will be at the Gamescon, the largest video games exhibition in Europe, Aug 15-18.
(http://www.yacuba.com/news/24/Yacuba_Games_is_attending_GamesCom_2012!.html)
So if anyone of the devs is planning to go there, you might be able to track them down personally?
Everyone go here and vote 1
http://mmohuts.com/review/army-rage
Strange, I tried voting again and it said "you've already voted" and Im not registered.Everyone go here and vote 1
http://mmohuts.com/review/army-rage
I tried voting. The vote count went from 236 to 237, but just to make sure it stuck I refreshed the page. Back to 236 votes. Perhaps you have to register or something for it to stick.
My spouse and i wouldn't spend even 1 cent with this crap activity... Looks just like a browser player with the dice... On the opposite hand, I wonder whenever they gather even larger community regarding players when compared with FH2.Being a free game, it attracts easily younger gamers who either don't have money or their parents don't allow buying game like these. Kind of like world of tanks, full of kids.
<facepalms more, over and over, until blood starts to pour from my forehead>
I wonder what are they accusing Eurogamer of? I mean, to sue someone, he must have done something first, right?
Freedom of speech might be weird concept for chinese though ;D
The thing with most easterners is that you have to speak nicely and state your reason clearly: "Hey this is my hard work, you can't just do this without my approval." Fearing their own karma bitch, they will think twice before switching into their typical arsehole attitude.
But there are the mafia "us and them" attitude as well, which turns into a lockout like this. I believe the only solution is to run their rackets dry.
And even if you are an Asian, then you're only an asshole if you rip off other people's property. Be it intellectual or material. ^^
He means Asians, not East Coast Americans.
He means Asians, not East Coast Americans.
Nice and subtle Lightning ;D
He means Asians, not East Coast Americans.
Nice and subtle Lightning ;D
And Asians who live on the East Coast of the USA are the biggest pieces of shit of all.
That repair tool is from Bf2, right? If so, you guys might get yourselves heard in higher places...Doesn't look exactly like BF2 wrench, they only took the idea but it isn't the same model:
No one else is saying what happened so I assume they shut themselves down, part of their scheme from the beginning. If that is the case then in all technicality, we've lost.
If they were shut down, we'd hear something from EA or another company, wouldn't we? I can find nothing.
Unfortunately, circumstances beyond our control have forced us to take this hard decision.Mmm, beyond their control, huh?
In the past couple of years our team has spent lots of sleepless nights, always striving to improve the quality of the game and thanks to your constant help and tons of suggestions we've managed to transform Army Rage into one of the best shooters available which makes it even harder for us to make this announcement.
http://www.red.orchestra.pl/forum/index.php?topic=1244.0It was aprills fools joke about Fall Weiss Mod which never existed. Autor explained that next day in that topic. He also said about origin of those renders so everything is fine.
A bit old but... did he get the permission to use those?
You may want to keep a lookout for trolls and such, now that Forza Horizon 2 is out. Might lead to confusement between FH2 and Forza Horizon 2 players.
You may want to keep a lookout for trolls and such, now that Forza Horizon 2 is out. Might lead to confusement between FH2 and Forza Horizon 2 players.I am more worried that we might get a bunch of farmers here talking about inseminating cows. ;D