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Forgotten Hope 2 => Suggestions => Topic started by: Graf_Radetzky(CZ) on 01-07-2010, 13:07:16
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Allo,
yes i know that it is all hard to make and code etc., but i would like to suggest some more german trucks. Allies have already Chewy, 2 Bedfords and GMC. Germans have just Blitz.
So:
Sdkfz 7
(http://www.achtungpanzer.com/votw/sdkfz7_2.jpg)
Krupp L2
(http://imcdb.org/images/053/067.jpg)
Horch 108 or 901
(http://www.vmv-olomouc.com/images/horch108.jpg)
(http://www.tankmodel.com/images/collection/1-2/147.jpg)
AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SUGGEST MOTORBIKES ;)
(http://pds15.egloos.com/pds/200911/18/97/c0026297_4b03c5bff1ce0.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d1/Bundesarchiv_Bild_101I-576-1848-29%2C_Italien%2C_Fallschirmj%C3%A4ger_mit_Beiwagen-Krad_und_MG_42.jpg)
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Normally i would say no to this
but really, next to theSDKFZ 7 and BMW bike
i never saw those things before!
Krupp L2 looks dam sexy
anyone who has information about this one?
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The horch jeep looks like a nice platform for a schreck ;D
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No more fast things for people to just drive into flagzones.
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Put minefields around them ;D
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neeeeeed motorbikes! Been saying this for a looong time now. Just one, zundapp. Make it super fragile to gunfire, but as fast as a kubel, maybe a tiny bit quicker.
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neeeeeed motorbikes! Been saying this for a looong time now. Just one, zundapp. Make it super fragile to gunfire, but as fast as a kubel, maybe a tiny bit quicker.
And then add the US version, the Harley! And then we can has Motor bike races!
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Yeah and put 'em in the desert and make a rally Paris-Dakar map ;D
But I would definetly like to see more German trucks. I read that it was a logistics nightmare to maintain German trucks because there were so much of them and each had different parts etc. while the allies used few of them with compatible parts.
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the horch jeep is very nice, i have a scale model of it with a mg-on-a-stick version ^^
but i would say sdkfz 10, as its basicly the 7, though with a variaty of versions.. (flak38, Vierling, Pak38) etc
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Allo,
yes i know that it is all hard to make and code etc., but i would like to suggest some more german trucks. Allies have already Chewy, 2 Bedfords and GMC. Germans have just Blitz.
So:
AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SUGGEST MOTORBIKES ;)
(http://pds15.egloos.com/pds/200911/18/97/c0026297_4b03c5bff1ce0.jpg)
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I got 2 of these bike :)
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Also extremely rare to see a Mg42 mounted on a motorcycle like the BMW R75 in the picture.
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I found that weird too but it sure is a lot more fun to have 8)
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Wow nice!
Buy an appropriate MG to match it :D
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Wow nice!
Buy an appropriate MG to match it :D
I would but I willl not drill extra holes for a MG mount in a original sidecar and can only have on for WW2 Reenactments. Anyways 10% or less of sidecar bikes had MGs on them. They are alot of fun to own but lots and lots of effort and $$$$ is required to keep them going. Would be awesome to see them in game though.
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I only support the Sdkfz 7 with that Sexy AA Included.
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they are soft-skinned...therefore I support them all!
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new kind of job: motorbike schrecking.
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HOLY SHIAT :D
Now THAT'S awesome!
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I only support the Sdkfz 7 with that Sexy AA Included.
True. true
Those where pretty sexy aswel in FH1
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Motorbikes FTW! 8)
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I only support the Sdkfz 7 with that Sexy AA Included.
True. true
Those where pretty sexy aswel in FH1
apc version with roof on/off using up and down arrows! :D
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two positions on the bike, driver and a guy with a tommygun (drum mag) would be funny
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I saw the Krupp L2 while playing Codename Panzers. I'd make it same as the Opel just a tad faster. It would be a good addition to the german transports, and if could be, include both simple and covered backside.
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I saw the Krupp L2 while playing Codename Panzers. I'd make it same as the Opel just a tad faster. It would be a good addition to the german transports, and if could be, include both simple and covered backside.
Does the Axis really need 2 jeeps? Sdkfz 7 sounds sweet :D OH WHAT ABOUT ITALIAN TRUCKS!
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I saw the Krupp L2 while playing Codename Panzers. I'd make it same as the Opel just a tad faster. It would be a good addition to the german transports, and if could be, include both simple and covered backside.
Does the Axis really need 2 jeeps? Sdkfz 7 sounds sweet :D OH WHAT ABOUT ITALIAN TRUCKS!
why do the allies need a 50cal willy?
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I saw the Krupp L2 while playing Codename Panzers. I'd make it same as the Opel just a tad faster. It would be a good addition to the german transports, and if could be, include both simple and covered backside.
Does the Axis really need 2 jeeps? Sdkfz 7 sounds sweet :D OH WHAT ABOUT ITALIAN TRUCKS!
why do the allies need a 50cal willy?
Why do the germans need a wirbelwind on totalize while it wassent even their?
Why do the the germans get a STG4 ZF while it is issent in place?
WHY dont the italians get their COOL STUFF! :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
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I only support the Sdkfz 7 with that Sexy AA Included.
True. true
Those where pretty sexy aswel in FH1
those with the 88's should have been Sd.kfz.9's
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+1 for the motorcycle it was very common transport for recon units in all ww2.With different camos you can use it in many maps.
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I support Sd Kfz 6,7, 8 and 10 8)
(http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Bilder/SdKfz8/SdKfz8-1%208,8.jpg)
Sd Kfz 8 with 88mm Flak
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+1 for the motorcycle it was very common transport for recon units in all ww2.With different camos you can use it in many maps.
No, people will just use it to zoom around and break through into flagzones which looks retarded. The less kubel type vehicles we have, the better.
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I saw the Krupp L2 while playing Codename Panzers. I'd make it same as the Opel just a tad faster. It would be a good addition to the german transports, and if could be, include both simple and covered backside.
Does the Axis really need 2 jeeps? Sdkfz 7 sounds sweet :D OH WHAT ABOUT ITALIAN TRUCKS!
why do the allies need a 50cal willy?
Why do the germans need a wirbelwind on totalize while it wassent even their?
Why do the the germans get a STG4 ZF while it is issent in place?
WHY dont the italians get their COOL STUFF! :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
+1 You have he german Sdkfz with MG and with cannon on Afrika. Allies have only the Willy. With no armament. They have the Chevy but nothing in Normandy. Plus they had thousands of them IRL.
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What the fuck is this then? (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/imagesfh2/vehicles/Willys%20MB%20SAS/big.jpg)
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Chevy wasn't used in Normandy. ::) And its not really the FH dev's fault that the germans simply tended to have more random stuff....
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Was just trying to say that if one side gets something than the other side needs to get something too. Whatever it may be. Stg44 ZF was 5 minutes of work (I'm guessing), so I can't figure out why we couldn't have an M1 Garand scoped? Both things were way rarities.
But, the Willy's mounted .50cals by standard. FACT. US had progressed from the .303 to the .50 so it's nothing BIAS talked or what-do-I-know.
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Was just trying to say that if one side gets something than the other side needs to get something too.
No, that's stupid mirror balancing. It's bad enough we have the StG44 zf ingame, why add another bullshit weapon??
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Methinks that you doth not look in yonder game files, where willysmb_us_alt awaits you.
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The american jeeps mounted with 50cals and 30 cals in the ETO were only used as convoy AA protection behind the lines. they were not used as frontline combat vehicles.
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The american jeeps mounted with 50cals and 30 cals in the ETO were only used as convoy AA protection behind the lines. they were not used as frontline combat vehicles.
Ok, that's a historians answer in contrary to my un-informed self-thought fact. :-X
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I support the Sdkfz. 250, the smaller brother of the "Hanomag" we have in-game. I especially want to see Rommels "Greif" in the African Theatre!
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The american jeeps mounted with 50cals and 30 cals in the ETO were only used as convoy AA protection behind the lines. they were not used as frontline combat vehicles.
Thats what they were supposed to be used for but in quite a few instances American frontline officers would request these jeeps for scouting, delivering messages to CO's etc. But as you said the vast majority of them were convoy AA escorts.
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Yes, but very rarely. And never as 'assualt vehicles' as american reenactors here want to use them for -.=.- <shakes fist in anger>
Anyways, if you want something random for american, I think the inclusion of the sherman 105mm would be nice :P
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The Sdkfz 7 was in Fh 0.7 so they are certainly aware of it. I am sure it will reappear if it they want it for a map and some devs are willing to make it.
The Krupp L2 looks pretty cool too. I would love to see that in game. From the looks of that vehicle I doubt anyone can be too worried about players 'zipping' around in one.
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+1 for the motorcycle it was very common transport for recon units in all ww2.With different camos you can use it in many maps.
No, people will just use it to zoom around and break through into flagzones which looks retarded. The less kubel type vehicles we have, the better.
Stop being such a http://espanol.video.yahoo.com/watch/111272/605855
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Yes that video captures me quite well. While all the retards, idiots and Lindsay Lohan rabble on about trivial bs in annoying voices, I steer the conversation to more important and interesting topics.
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I support the Sdkfz. 250, the smaller brother of the "Hanomag" we have in-game. I especially want to see Rommels "Greif" in the African Theatre!
Good call, I love that one! It's like a sexy souped up playboy halftrack. Rommel had class for sure. :)
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AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SUGGEST MOTORBIKES ;)
ME TOO !!!
What's cooler than motorbikes ? This mod needs them all !
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Yes, but very rarely. And never as 'assualt vehicles' as american reenactors here want to use them for -.=.- <shakes fist in anger>
Anyways, if you want something random for american, I think the inclusion of the sherman 105mm would be nice :P
Stop being such a history nerd. Let us have some fun.
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Not on my watch. 8)
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Well I think this is progressing in a bad alley. I think germans should have some new transports. Even though I AM a fan of the allies. But here we discuss about german transports.
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^this.
Anyway, speaking of the Sdkfz 250, there are two variants I´d love to see in-game:
1.) Sd.Kfz. 250/3 leichter Funkpanzerwagen
Command variant, equipped with radio equipment and "bedstead" aerial frame.
This would serve as a commanders vehicle. It could actually serve in Africa and would represent Rommels "Greif" (=griffon) command vehicle he used in North Africa.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/37/Bundesarchiv_Bild_101I-217-0493-22%2C_Russland%2C_Sch%C3%BCtzenpanzer.jpg)
This pic was taken in Russia, but it was used in Africa aswell.
2.) Sd.Kfz. 250/8 leichter Schützenpanzerwagen (7.5 cm)
Support variant armed with a 7.5cm KwK 37 L/24 gun and an MG 34.
As an infantry support vehicle this ariant would be great. It´s still vulnerable and no tank, but it would give infantry alot more punch. I´m not sure if they served in Africa or Normandy, but for a future Eastern Front this version is a must.
(http://www.achtungpanzer.com/images/sdkfz250_8.jpg)
There exist several other variants of this cute little APC, but I thought these could be usefull in FH2. More information can be found here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sdkfz_250).
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The short 75mm varients of the 250 and 251 were used mostly as HE support for tiger brigades, so they could be placed anywhere the Tigers are, much like the Pz3N.
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The short 75mm varients of the 250 and 251 were used mostly as HE support for tiger brigades, so they could be placed anywhere the Tigers are, much like the Pz3N.
Sounds great. Tigers could deal with tanks, while infantry uses the 75mm guns to engage infantry and "unworthy" targets for the Tiger.
Btw, Mudra, do you have any info what kind of ammo was carried? I can imagine them having a small amount of HEAT rounds, but I haven´t found any info on that matter.
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IIRC they carried a couple HEAT and AP, but almost all was HE. They were supposed to work very close to the Tigers, so the Tigers took out the tanks, the Panzer 3N and 250/251 types took out the bunkers/AT guns and infantry.
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The short 75mm varients of the 250 and 251 were used mostly as HE support for tiger brigades, so they could be placed anywhere the Tigers are, much like the Pz3N.
'Stummel' SPW's weren't used by Tiger battalions, besides the Panzer III's were dropped from the Tiger battalion TOE after March '43 (and ony the 501st, 502nd and 503rd were formed in time to use the original TOE).
The Sd.Kfz.250/8 was used exclusively by Panzer Aufklarungs Abteilungs, A Gepanzerte Aufklarungs Kompanie would usually field two in it's Heavy platoon (along with four sMG and two 8cm mortars). The heavy coy of the battalion would also usually have a platoon six. The same goes for the Gepanzerte Panzergrenadier Abteilung, two Sd.Kfz.251/9's per Panzer Grenadier company and six in the 4th kompanie of the Abteilung. The Sd.Kfz.251/9 was also issued to Panzer Aufklarungs Abteilungs in lieu of Sd.Kfz.250/8's.
From a practical view the only variant of the Sd.Kfz.250 that ought to be included is the Sd.Kfz.250/9 armoured car, the Sd.Kfz.251 has the same variants and more (bar an analogue of the 250/9. The 251/23 was planned but it's highly doubtful that any were produced), performing the same roles.
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Well I think this is progressing in a bad alley. I think germans should have some new transports. Even though I AM a fan of the allies. But here we discuss about german transports.
The germans have recieved enough stuff lately
TIME for something GODDAM Allied
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Yeah the Axis bias in this thread goes up to eleven in this thread. lol
A CMP truck would be nice for the Canadians.
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Why can't we get something for both armies? Why do we have to segregate everything?
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Why can't we get something for both armies? Why do we have to segregate everything?
Last 3 updates where pure german, again
Either we get something allied
Or something italian!
What i want more, is italian stuff!
you know! Get fucked with german and allied stuff!WE want ITALIAN PIECA OF DIE EQUIPMENTA!
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I have it on good authority that you will not like the next update.
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I can go on and on and on about allied stuff, or even italian stuff (not that much but we could). Heck I was even trying to, but most of the responses were "No we don't need any of that BS" ... etc.etc.
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Only-a thing you will like-a is screwing di bayonetsa.
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Last 3 updates where pure german, again
Either we get something allied
Or something italian!
What i want more, is italian stuff!
you know! Get fucked with german and allied stuff!WE want ITALIAN PIECA OF DIE EQUIPMENTA!
- M16 Multiple Gun Motor Carriage
- Cannone da 47/32 M35
- Wasp Universal Carrier
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2 Stugs variants, a Wurfgerät and the scoped FG42.
Not proving a point here or anything, but it just isn't that biased. ;)
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Last 3 updates where pure german, again
Either we get something allied
Or something italian!
What i want more, is italian stuff!
you know! Get fucked with german and allied stuff!WE want ITALIAN PIECA OF DIE EQUIPMENTA!
- M16 Multiple Gun Motor Carriage
- Cannone da 47/32 M35
- Wasp Universal Carrier
vs.
2 Stugs variants, a Wurfgerät and the scoped FG42.
Not proving a point here or anything, but it just isn't that biased. ;)
nono, 3 updates with only german stuff ;)
We want italian
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Look at it this way: You get loads of german updates now. But when and if FH2 gets to eastern front, you wont be getting too many or too frequent (presumably anyway) updates about german equipment. Then you'll be screaming out RUSSIAN BIAS when you only get russian equipment.
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True true ;)
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The short 75mm varients of the 250 and 251 were used mostly as HE support for tiger brigades, so they could be placed anywhere the Tigers are, much like the Pz3N.
'Stummel' SPW's weren't used by Tiger battalions, besides the Panzer III's were dropped from the Tiger battalion TOE after March '43 (and ony the 501st, 502nd and 503rd were formed in time to use the original TOE).
The Sd.Kfz.250/8 was used exclusively by Panzer Aufklarungs Abteilungs, A Gepanzerte Aufklarungs Kompanie would usually field two in it's Heavy platoon (along with four sMG and two 8cm mortars). The heavy coy of the battalion would also usually have a platoon six. The same goes for the Gepanzerte Panzergrenadier Abteilung, two Sd.Kfz.251/9's per Panzer Grenadier company and six in the 4th kompanie of the Abteilung. The Sd.Kfz.251/9 was also issued to Panzer Aufklarungs Abteilungs in lieu of Sd.Kfz.250/8's.
From a practical view the only variant of the Sd.Kfz.250 that ought to be included is the Sd.Kfz.250/9 armoured car, the Sd.Kfz.251 has the same variants and more (bar an analogue of the 250/9. The 251/23 was planned but it's highly doubtful that any were produced), performing the same roles.
You realize that just because it served in a different company doesn't mean its role wasn't used alongside the Tigers, right? It was essentially the replacement for the Pz3N.
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What the heck has news update to do with bias? Come on. Arnt people around here tired of hearing bias to everything thats done?
Get real or Get out. -.-'
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Do I hear "bias" echoing in the background? ;D