Rifle grenades vs. Light Armoured Vehicles

[CosmonautVince]

Hi all, I was playing el alamein today and while valiantly charging into a swarm of british, my full healthed Sdkfz/hanomag/halftrack/etc. was destroyed by a rifle grenade. Would this be possible in real life? I can understand a sdkfz 222 being destroyed fairly easily but a halftrack that can withstand a few basic grenades goes down in one shot? I think it would be a little tougher than that. on that note, the "light armoured vehicle" category of vehicles in general seems somewhat under powered. an mg can widdle down your health fairly quickly and because of the slow to move tank controls youre usually pretty easy prey for enemies if your on any kind of slant.

just my opinions of course.

[Korsakov829]

There are rifle grenades, and then there are rifle anti-tank grenades such as the No. 68 AT Grenade which can penetrate about 50mm of armor. So yes it's possible IRL.

[jan_kurator]

hanomags had pretty much same armor values as sdkfz 222

[Ts4EVER]

I think the American riflegrenade, the British one and the bigger German types can penetrate some armor.

[CosmonautVince]

just to clarify, it was a regular british infantry rifle grenade that im talking about.

EDIT: just saw TS's post. D'oh!

[jan_kurator]

brits have only one type of rifle grenades in game

[Ts4EVER]

brits have only one type of rifle grenades in game

Well technically they have the HEAT nade and the normal handgrenade that can also be shot from the launcher.
The Americans have a HEAT nade, a frag nade with impact detonator and the normal frag nade.
The Germans have three different riflenades IIRC, one of which is an impact HE nade and the others are anti tank nades to varying degrees of effectiveness.

[TASSER]

How does one tell if you have an impact or regular time fuse American frag rifle grenade? The icon looks the same IIRC.

[Ts4EVER]

IIRC the impact one is only on Sidi Bou Zid and it does look slightly different.

[jan_kurator]

The one used on Sidi Bou Zid is the M17 rifle grenade. It might be confusing because its warhead was basically a Mk.II "pineapple" grenade body on a "stick" adapter which worked as an impact fuse:

It's used only on Sidi because it was mostly replaced later in war by this one:

[CHRISTIEFRONTDRIVE]

How does one tell if you have an impact or regular time fuse American frag rifle grenade? The icon looks the same IIRC.

When you use the scroll wheel to select weapons it will tell you which kind of riflenade you have for the Garand (assuming it's a kit with riflenades not just the regular pineapple). One is the HE/frag grenade that will bounce as many times as you want until the fuse is done and one is the HEAT grenade that explodes on impact. It's on Pointe du Hoc, Hurtgen Forest and some others (but all in pickup kits). It's badass too, takes out StuGs no trouble.

[jan_kurator]

When you use the scroll wheel to select weapons it will tell you which kind of riflenade you have for the Garand (assuming it's a kit with riflenades not just the regular pineapple). One is the HE/frag grenade that will bounce as many times as you want until the fuse is done and one is the HEAT grenade that explodes on impact. It's on Pointe du Hoc, Hurtgen Forest and some others (but all in pickup kits). It's badass too, takes out StuGs no trouble.

Nope. We're not talking about HEAT ones here. AFAIK the HEAT rifle nades from pickup kits on maps you mentioned are AT grenades used on Eppeldorf. Look at my post. We are talking about rifle mounted frag nades.

[F.E.Glöckner]

Is it possible to code the Riflenades like the Panzerfaust? I mean you only hit something when you use the Iron sights and your not moving? I'm tired of the Run'n'gun with Riflenades.

[PanzerKnacker]

I'm not so sure, they seem as if they were very much inaccurate, and travelling at a much greater speed than the panzerfaust, so aiming down the sight with it wouldn't do much good anyway.

[sn00x]

Im pretty sure a halftrack wont Blow up from an AT grenade....... But i guess for some people armour thickness vs penetration = instant blowup