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Re: Battlefield 3
« Reply #1185 on: 29-09-2011, 23:09:10 »
For those with problems loging in do this:

I had the same problem and now it works. I work with win7 64 bit so for the 32 bit windows the path is slightly different.

Thanks a bunch! Game works fine now thanks to this fix.  ;D

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Re: Battlefield 3
« Reply #1186 on: 30-09-2011, 00:09:12 »
OK I played Operation Metrololol for a few hours and here's my impressions:

PROS
- Sounds are awesome (when they work that is, more on that later) although they don't seem really too realistic and sound like they were enhanced and added some bass to make the guns have more "oomph"
- deployable spawn points - something we always wanted (although horribly implemented in the way that you can spawn right under your enemy's nose, or into a crossfire, or keep spawning helplessly while they spawnkill you
- Overall feel, it feels(and looks) somewhat like BC 2 but enhanced and with a little bit slower pace, I like the emphasis on teamwork
- Suppression is done correctly, it's not easy to return accurate fire while suppressed.
- Bipods - they can be quite useful and you can finally use that MG correctly without looking silly
- concealment is nicely done and you can hide in that bush quite effectively

CONS
- I don't know if it's just me but the sound keeps dropping all the time... You can find yourself in a battle and suddenly you can't hear shit.
- The noobtubes - they are everywhere and everyone seems to have them - COD much? Also people carry a primary weapon, a sidearm, a knife/blowtorch, AND a mothafucking RPG with 3(!) rockets... and can still sprint like Usain Bolt on steroids (yes I know I'm exaggerating).
- Unlockable stuff and perks - not generally bad, but really annoying when there are lasers and flashlights shining IN YA FACE all the time. Also perks are a bit unfair IMO but you are limited to 1 specialization I believe so they are okay I guess.
- Still quite buggy - seeing through ground, animation bugs (like dead bodies wielding guns through some woodoo magic and the old bug from BFH where it looks like people are trying to imitate an airplane with their arms). Also FPS drops from time to time.
- lack of some features that are considered basic in some games like the ability to LEAN
- Running and gunning - it seems that bunny hopping and dolphin diving are back... sigh... also no need to quickscope as you get crosshairs with the marksman rifle too.
- Only 4 classes and 4 man squads... They are dumbing this down too much
- Origin... IT' S CRAP... when it works it would be okay I suppose (if it didn't collect all the stuff about you I guess  :P)... and that stupid web based server browser.
- It almost killed my PC! My CPU temperature skyrocketed - guess I need to replace that stock cooler/ make a new hole in my case...


I have yet to try out Caspian Border gameplay so I can judge a bit more.

BTW if someone wants to add me on this crappy Origin for a few rounds go ahead, my username is TheLucky0ne
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Re: Battlefield 3
« Reply #1187 on: 30-09-2011, 00:09:23 »


CONS
- I don't know if it's just me but the sound keeps dropping all the time... You can find yourself in a battle and suddenly you can't hear shit.
- The noobtubes - they are everywhere and everyone seems to have them - COD much? Also people carry a primary weapon, a sidearm, a knife/blowtorch, AND a mothafucking RPG with 3(!) rockets... and can still sprint like Usain Bolt on steroids (yes I know I'm exaggerating).
- Unlockable stuff and perks - not generally bad, but really annoying when there are lasers and flashlights shining IN YA FACE all the time. Also perks are a bit unfair IMO but you are limited to 1 specialization I believe so they are okay I guess.
- Still quite buggy - seeing through ground, animation bugs (like dead bodies wielding guns through some woodoo magic and the old bug from BFH where it looks like people are trying to imitate an airplane with their arms). Also FPS drops from time to time.
- lack of some features that are considered basic in some games like the ability to LEAN
- Running and gunning - it seems that bunny hopping and dolphin diving are back... sigh... also no need to quickscope as you get crosshairs with the marksman rifle too.
- Only 4 classes and 4 man squads... They are dumbing this down too much
- Origin... IT' S CRAP... when it works it would be okay I suppose (if it didn't collect all the stuff about you I guess  :P)... and that stupid web based server browser.
- It almost killed my PC! My CPU temperature skyrocketed - guess I need to replace that stock cooler/ make a new hole in my case...
I have yet to try out Caspian Border gameplay so I can judge a bit more.

BTW if someone wants to add me on this crappy Origin for a few rounds go ahead, my username is TheLucky0ne
Agreed on most of those cons. Its a bit to Codish
And origen is absolutely horrible...its like

you buy a car. The car has to remain at the car dealer. if you need it, the car dealer will give you the keys, if he is in the mood.
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Re: Battlefield 3
« Reply #1188 on: 30-09-2011, 00:09:22 »
Played it for few hours. Awesome rounds. Defending the objectives from a good position, you don't have to run and jump all around to stay alive, but you can just find a good spot and hold your positions. Same with attacking; we moved as a squad, flanking under the bushes and having long fire-fights with the enemy. No need to bunny-jump straight to the objective.

Bloody hard to join the same squad with your friend, though.
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Re: Battlefield 3
« Reply #1189 on: 30-09-2011, 00:09:21 »
Yeah a serious pain in the ass. The game itself is decent good. It could still be better and more in the classic BF2 way, but they could have easily turned this in a fully Cod 8 game.
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Re: Battlefield 3
« Reply #1190 on: 30-09-2011, 01:09:15 »
I like the slower pace and the fact that I can actually move up through cover and not get fucking slaughtered like in BC2. I have the same issue with sounds, but it is a beta. Also it is super fun when they cap an objective in Rush to hide and wait for them to move to the next one then come behind them, i got like 8 kills in a row doing this. Sniping is very COD-ish, but is still fun. I like the feel of the firefights. There is a lot of rpg spamming though, but as of yet, it's not killed me much. I like the Metro map, something about shooting up France is awesome. All in all, not bad so far.

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Re: Battlefield 3
« Reply #1191 on: 30-09-2011, 02:09:23 »
The game grows on me. Had some freaking fun rounds on Metroll.

Me wantz:

-Own medic kit
-Squads being able to do something with.

One of my issues are that it is really retarded to have Assault and medic as one. Bring back BF42 style where the medic has an SMG! The way it is now is too arcadish. And second is SQUAD WITH SQUAD LEADERS ISSUING ORDERS! The squad work is non existant. The only bonus is three more spawn points.


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Re: Battlefield 3
« Reply #1192 on: 30-09-2011, 05:09:45 »

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Re: Battlefield 3
« Reply #1193 on: 30-09-2011, 05:09:54 »
How to start on this. My first impressions of this game were, well, poor. I had a hard time jumping through the loops to get this game running.

It wasn't so much Origin, as it was the need to travel to my Internet Browser to join a game. My first thought as I saw the server browser wasn't negative, it was quick, and worked fine. However, it was when I started to try and join games that my disgust for it started to grow. To summarize how Battlefield 3's Server Browser works:

One finds a server on the list, and must click the large "Join Game" button to join it. A small window appears in the bottom left hand corner, that lists the map, the name of the server, and how many people are playing on it, and this screen goes through a series of texts that tell you what its up to. After a moment of trying to join, one begins to hear sound effects through ones headphones. However, you are not in the game yet, no you have to travel back to your internet browser, find the small window in the bottom left hand corner, and click the "Go To the Game" button that is now there.

I find it also quite annoying that, even though I was able to play this game without them, that it seems necessary to download the customized drivers for Battlefield 3 to even run the beta. While I will probably do it in the next few days, it just seems like a very unnecessary thing. In addition, having to download browser plugins to even use the Server Browser was a bit annoying, though over quickly, its more software on my PC that I really shouldn't need, after-all, the Server Browser should be in-game.

Once the game is actually started, it doesn't start in full screen mode, it starts in windowed mode, at the resolution the player has selected, and then the player must use Alt+Enter to bring the game to full screen. Again, not a difficult task, but it seems like yet another meaningless task to perform just to even start playing.

If however, this server browser was instead incorporated into Origin, joined a server, and then the game started in full screened mode, I would have far less of a problem with it. As is though, there is a lot of hoops to jump through to even start playing.

The beta is plagued by a plethora of bugs, which have probably all been well documented by now, so I wont even bother commenting on them.

I was disappointed to see no servers playing the large Caspian Border map, and so I spent my time searching for an East Coast server, that wasn't full, and was playing Metro. Metro starts out nice, a large open area, with trees, a pond, and plenty of room to move around in. However, I found it plagued by snipers, and men who somehow magically could spot me from long distances. Battlefield 3's graphical improvements alone made it very difficult for me to even see a lot of my enemies, let alone engage them with my gun bouncing around on screen and the recoil blasting away.

Don't get me wrong, I really enjoyed the immersion of the game. Every bullet, every bomb, every falling tree limb, and hole in the ground made it all seem very desperate. Made it very real. The recoil of the guns makes shooting a bit more of a challenge than I expected, with many games becoming rail shooters these days it was excellent to see Battlefield 3's weapons kick and recoil when I was engaging targets, and then for that to only increase if fire was incoming at me as well. Weapons are very effective too, deadly, and with a few placed shots in the right places enemies drop fast.

I'm still in the midst of a debate with myself whether adding prone back to battlefield was a good idea. While there's really no way to take advantage of it like in the past, sometimes prone men look like dead bodies, and its difficult sometimes to tell if that immobile figure is about to pull a trigger on you, or is dead, and especially in the subway parts of the map, prone players hiding in subway cars, on top of escalators, behind invincible trash cans, and in nooks and crannies in every part of the Metro made the assault very difficult, and an absolute blood bath.

However the game grows on you, and it is very fun once it does. I find that Battlefield 3 requires you to take a much slower approach to many of your objectives. Where as in Bad Company 2 I was charging at full sprint from cover to cover to avoid the overwhelming number of snipers with magnum ammunition, Battlefield 3 makes me think a little more before I move, and I found that our Squad was much more effective moving up slowly than it was just blindly charging down the subway tunnels or across the fields.

The spotting system has been improved. As far as I can tell, recon kits are the only ones that can actually create the 3D Spotting Icons, while all other kits can only simple Q spot on the map. I think that works well, and gives the Recon kit an added bonus.

I also noted that large amounts of points were rewarded for team efforts, such as kill assists, squad members spawning on you, squad or team members killing an enemy you had suppressed, giving out health kits and ammunition. It all seemed to be getting me far more points than the kills did, even if every kill is worth 100 points. However, despite this, there is a relative lack of teamwork in Battlefield 3. Hapless squads of four men are unable to communicate properly, there is no 3D Hud icons which any member of the squad can place, and every member of the squad is very quick to run off on his/her own. This inevitably is why playing with friends is crucial, even as difficult as that is in Battlefield 3. I hope that getting my buddies into a Squad of our own will be much improved before November.

I believe that Metro needs a bit of a rework. Its a very large, very long bottle neck, that sends waves of attackers into the well prepared light machine guns and sniper rifles of enemies who only have a few tunnels and hallways to watch in order to hold down the whole kit and caboose. Just sitting with an assault rifle as a defender, firing in single-shot mode I was picking off waves of American attackers storming up the escalators while my buddies fired RPG's into the waves like a zombie apocalypse. One area in particular only gives players two options to reach the objectives, and both objectives are positioned in open areas with nothing but panes of glass between them and the entirety of the room. Which makes defending those bomb sites extremely difficult as the respawning waves of defenders come storming in a counter attack (bum rush) to defuse it.

Many players don't understand too what the siren and the flashing icon on the map really means. The number of people I saw rushing to try and defuse the planted bombs while I was playing defense was few and far between. I think some sort of incentive, or reminder of what those warnings mean needs to be placed in broad sight for all the people that evidently have never heard a siren before and thought "That must be bad!"

Battlefield 3 isn't stellar by any means, but I will reserve my true comments on the game until I get to play the full retail version this November, and get my hands on some 64 player conquest.

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Re: Battlefield 3
« Reply #1194 on: 30-09-2011, 06:09:49 »
The worst element I have ever seen in a video game:



and men who somehow magically could spot me from long distances.

It's called derp spotting...or doritos.

Another disgusting feature.
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« Reply #1195 on: 30-09-2011, 06:09:16 »
I was gonna ask if the Dorito spotting was still in.
Didn't have to look any further by the looks of it

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Re: Battlefield 3
« Reply #1196 on: 30-09-2011, 08:09:12 »
More shitty details.

This whole crap about regenerating vehicles it's complete bullshit, just hear this spec that let's you do this:

When you go under 49%, you press X (flare button pretty much) and it repairs your jet instantly (with the magics ) up to 60% or so and you keep going.

I hate this weird shit about vehicle perks, I plain hate them. This game it's absolutely the worst gameplay aspects I have ever seen combined into a turd. I really hope they release mod tools, hell, I'll even pay 30 bucks for them.

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Re: Battlefield 3
« Reply #1197 on: 30-09-2011, 09:09:18 »
as it was the need to travel to my Internet Browser to join a game.

welcome to the future ;) you'll like it here once you get used to it  8)
but I will reserve my true comments on the game until I get to play the full retail version this November, and get my hands on some 64 player conquest.
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Re: Battlefield 3
« Reply #1198 on: 30-09-2011, 10:09:04 »
I'll just leave this here:
Battlefield 3 comparation PC vs. Playstation3 Split Screen
I have nothing but loathing towards PS3, but this video almost made me buy one. The game looks so much more attractive on it. ;D
The worst element I have ever seen in a video game:
This was also the part I hated in FarCry.
welcome to the future ;) you'll like it here once you get used to it  8)
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Re: Battlefield 3
« Reply #1199 on: 30-09-2011, 10:09:18 »
I was very very worried about the browser based solution for joining games/server browser. It is still very rough around the edges but personally I can see a ton of potential. Sofar it has served me well in selecting good servers even during the busiest times. It's fast and let's you connect without hassle with the server, takes less than 30 seconds. From clicking join to spawning in the game. Of course the party system is very convenient as well, it's something consoles have had a for a long time and the PC didn't as far as I know. Of course it needs some work because half the time it doesn't work because a server has filled up before a party is able to join. Will have to do with the number of people playing and the amount of server available I reckon. Compared to the old server browsers in BF games this is amazing stuff and it reminds me of All Seeing Eye to be honest. Which is only a good thing in my book.

Two things that I miss the most but will be fixed in the final version I hope are no squad management tools aside from leaving and joining a random squad and no commorose.
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