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"Ban" limited kits in Armored Vehicles
« on: 12-01-2012, 14:01:43 »
Now don't we all hate it, when we see a PIAT gunner waiting to get a tank? And then it spawns and he gets in?

It is a waste of limited kits, and I think it should be dealt with by:

Making a system like "in-this-mod-to-bf2" where you enter an vehicle, it says, you need this kit to drive it. Now, if that could be tweeked, so that all kits, except limited can drive tanks, armored cars and other supporting-big-guns-on-wheels-or-track.

Officers offcourse, should also be able to control these vehicles.

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Re: "Ban" limited kits in Armored Vehicles
« Reply #1 on: 12-01-2012, 15:01:31 »
Ye, why not. Tanker kits should be placed near tanks though. I can't imagine anything more annoying than me in empty base with AT kit and empty tank  ::)

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Re: "Ban" limited kits in Armored Vehicles
« Reply #2 on: 12-01-2012, 15:01:07 »
I dont think we should. Yes, put the tanker kit around, but as Natty said it, a player can decide to pick any kit he wants and get in a tank.

Thats the idea...

Take a bazooka and get in a tank, when you get hit in combat, you bail and take the f...er out.

So no, dont agree to this... Its free will

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Re: "Ban" limited kits in Armored Vehicles
« Reply #3 on: 12-01-2012, 16:01:17 »
Oh well, I tried

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Re: "Ban" limited kits in Armored Vehicles
« Reply #4 on: 12-01-2012, 17:01:48 »
Good idea.

Its always annoying when there is a tank killing your team, and there are no AT kits available, because people are tanking or flying around with them. Happens quite often if I think about it.

If you are in a tank, you already have something to take out tanks, you don't really need a panzerfaust that bad for some what-if scenario. Stop being selfish.

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Re: "Ban" limited kits in Armored Vehicles
« Reply #5 on: 12-01-2012, 17:01:53 »
Very good idea!

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Re: "Ban" limited kits in Armored Vehicles
« Reply #6 on: 12-01-2012, 17:01:13 »
I dont think we should. Yes, put the tanker kit around, but as Natty said it, a player can decide to pick any kit he wants and get in a tank.

Thats the idea...

Take a bazooka and get in a tank, when you get hit in combat, you bail and take the f...er out.

So no, dont agree to this... Its free will

a piat/bazooka is way to large to get into a tank, so yea, physics>free will

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Re: "Ban" limited kits in Armored Vehicles
« Reply #7 on: 12-01-2012, 18:01:05 »
PIAT and faust in tank? challenge accepted
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Re: "Ban" limited kits in Armored Vehicles
« Reply #8 on: 12-01-2012, 20:01:40 »
I dont think we should. Yes, put the tanker kit around, but as Natty said it, a player can decide to pick any kit he wants and get in a tank.

Thats the idea...

Take a bazooka and get in a tank, when you get hit in combat, you bail and take the f...er out.

So no, dont agree to this... Its free will

a piat/bazooka is way to large to get into a tank, so yea, physics>free will

And an entire lafette including a machine gun is not too heavy for one guy? physics < gameplay

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Re: "Ban" limited kits in Armored Vehicles
« Reply #9 on: 12-01-2012, 21:01:09 »
Got a question about tanker kits but it's not worth starting a new thread over - are they as plentiful as in FH1? I have only played a handful of maps in FH2 so far, haven't exactly been searching far and wide for them but so far the only tanker kits I've found is the ones next to the Vickers on Crete. Is there not as many as in FH1 or are they just spread out more and you have to hunt them down?
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Re: "Ban" limited kits in Armored Vehicles
« Reply #10 on: 12-01-2012, 21:01:21 »
There are Spawnable tanker kits, but noone uses them, totally useless.


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Re: "Ban" limited kits in Armored Vehicles
« Reply #11 on: 12-01-2012, 22:01:12 »
we're notoriously bad at placing the pickup kits in visible spots.. can always review this and make it easier to find standard kits.

need some special "driver" kit to drive, or else the game kills you or you can't drive? No.

We dont let players cast judgement on how other players choose to play their class. If you dont want to drive tanks with AT kit, dont do it. But the next guy might think that's the most fun way to play.
 If there are too few AT kits on some map, pleaase post in that maps feedback thread, but tbh most feedback Ive seen is that are too many AT kits, so a few driving around in tanks dont affect the overall combat balance.
Especially since both teams does it, they cancel eachother out.  :)
« Last Edit: 12-01-2012, 22:01:07 by Natty »

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Re: "Ban" limited kits in Armored Vehicles
« Reply #12 on: 12-01-2012, 22:01:52 »
we're notoriously bad at placing the pickup kits in visible spots.. can always review this and make it easier to find standard kits.

need some special "driver" kit to drive, or else the game kills you or you can't drive? No.

We dont let players cast judgement on how other players choose to play their class. If you dont want to drive tanks with AT kit, dont do it. But the next guy might think that's the most fun way to play.
 If there are too few AT kits on some map, pleaase post in that maps feedback thread, but tbh most feedback Ive seen is that are too many AT kits, so a few driving around in tanks dont affect the overall combat balance.
Especially since both teams does it, they cancel eachother out.  :)


There is the other way round, which is almost perfect, when you enter driver position you automatically switch to tanker kit and limited kits are freed up. Solved and adds realism so the bailed tanker (let's say, in a M5 Stuart and saw a panther incoming with nowhere to run away...) who survived is not hiding in the bush with his bazooka waiting for a revenge (instead, he got a pathetic pistol and the only chance is to spam the radio with his binocs). Also discourages taxi with tanks and would give forgetful people binoculars or/and a wrench.

The only drawback would be someone who just want a ride accidentally switched to/enters driver's position. But I guess that is less an issue.

Though I doubt whether it is possible :(
« Last Edit: 12-01-2012, 22:01:57 by General_Henry »

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Re: "Ban" limited kits in Armored Vehicles
« Reply #13 on: 13-01-2012, 00:01:21 »
This idea is very good. Make it like the NCO kit and evrybody will notice it after few rounds. Or just make guys with limited AT kit not able to enter a tank. Ofcourse everybody plays the game on a different way, but at this point the fun of a whole team wich gets raped by a tank beats out the fun of a single player. If you bring up this theory you can also allow cheating. Because one guy plays the game as he wants and the rest get's f*cked.   ::)
Why so negative about this idea. Alot of people who replied and actually play the game support this. So please take it in consideration.

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Re: "Ban" limited kits in Armored Vehicles
« Reply #14 on: 13-01-2012, 08:01:10 »
The problem is not so severe that the whole balance is screwed because guys drive tanks with AT kits. As I said, it happens in both teams, so the "problem" (which I dont even see as a problem) cancels itself out.