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Forgotten Hope 2 => General Discussion => Topic started by: Kubador on 06-06-2010, 23:06:33
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... and why?
For any of you that got excited after reading the title - this is NOT beta-tester recruitment. It's just my curiosity. So I ask you, would you like to be one of the people who test the new builds of FH2. If yes, what is your motive? Is it that you want to see the new stuff or you want to help out the community? If no, why not?
Too many question marks?
For those who already are testers please tell your reasons for accepting the dev invitation.
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I would like to be a tadabester to know about the development manner and know all the backstages of the process!
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I was promised cookies :<
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Yes i would like to be a betatester.
Why? So I can help the developers with the mod that made me love WW2 games and the desperate realism junkie that I am now :). Also to test and get to know the process of stuff that is designed by the users. I would see it as an honour to work with the creaters of this mod and assist them in the process of the creation of this mod.
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I was promised cookies :<
still waitn :(
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I would like to cuz I've been in this community for almost half a decade, know quite a lot of historical info and tactical info that might be helpful in designing things and such, and would love to have a chance to help out with the making of it....
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Yes and no.
I would love to help the people behind this beautiful mod but still it would spoil the release :(
I saw Ramelle today ;D
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I would like to be a tadabester to know about the development manner and know all the backstages of the process!
You think you want to know, but really you don't...
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Both yes and no. It would be really cool to see what's coming, though when a realease is coming - as betatester it wont be as glorious...
Well, I know what I would like to see, and as betatester, constuctive critisism are easiely handed over...
I guess you get closer to the devs, and maybe I could improve as a mapper in a serious team.
My knowledge in English is good, German, not as good, though Ich versteh written german aswell as listening to it, though when i comes to speaking I'm not too good.
Also, gameplay is most important to me, so if I could help improve that in some way, that would be greate.
Isnt there a shortage of Swedes in Beta? :p discrimination I say! :P
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I wouldn't say there is.
Me and rawhide are both swedes, who else? Roden is a tester right? I'm forgetting someone.
I got an invitation per email. Well not as much invitation as just betatesting-info immidiately, didn't get a chance to say yes or no :)
I hesitated as I wondered if I could take the responsibility to be a betatester. But it seems to work out fine though, as long as I try my best!
I want to contribute to the game, as well as getting behind the scenes and getting to know some of the other testers and devs better.
I won't lie though, the main reason I accepted was of course that I wanted to see new stuff :P
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To, of course, see the new stuff ;D
More importantly though to help the devs by making suggestions and such and to get to know and help the cummunity. Also to be involved in the creation of this awsome mod. Oh and to just have an all around good time with everyone ;)
I hear theres free cookies involved, too. Confirm or Deny?
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So I can more easily annoy those in the developing community.
Maus, please.
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Both yes and no. It would be really cool to see what's coming, though when a realease is coming - as betatester it wont be as glorious...
Correction. As a dev, releases aren't glorious. As a tester, there still alright, cause at that point, you still play the game.
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Being a tester would be so icey, mane.
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I'd love to be a bester in the teta.
I can't really do anything else that would deal with the mod; modeling and skinning requires skill, and high-end programs that cost money, coding requires knowledge of code, and I just don't think I'd have the skill nor patience with mapping and the BF2 editor. All of which I have next to no experience in, so having any FH2 quality work coming from me would most likely be a loooong ways off.
Of course, there's also the incentive to have a peek behind the scenes and see the work in progress, suggestions that are more to the point and much more considered, and to maybe pick up some more acquaintances.
Unfortunately, I'm North American and even worse, a college student, so beta test times would most likely be a fail on my end. Just shooting myself in the foot an all...
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Of course, there's also the incentive to have a peek behind the scenes and see the work in progress, suggestions that are more to the point and much more considered, and to maybe pick up some more acquaintances.
Ah the most common misconception. ;)
Suggestions are more likely to be heard when given by a tester, but they ain't always 'considered' (at least on the side of the suggester
Unfortunately, I'm North American and even worse, a college student, so beta test times would most likely be a fail on my end. Just shooting myself in the foot an all...
What timezone are you in?
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As for me, I had played FH up to 0.7 for roughly 2 years and was asked together with a bulk of other tournament players to test the last FH build and Mappacks for BF42. Most didn't stay for the transition to FH2, I myself stayed since the chance to see a mod develop from zero on a new engine was just great. The entire system was changed and the devs went full pro! :)
Other than that it's the same motivation as every tester should have, to advance and help the mod (actually it's already a game of its own in my opinion) we all love!
Almost 5 years with the tedabester team now and still the devs manage to amaze me with every new tidbit of info. :)
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And I do acknowledge that you do in fact know more than me in the suggestion thing, but I would think that one will likely see things pertaining to balance or some other factor with existing or WIP objects than things that usually get dreamcrushed in the Suggestions forum.
Not that they may be considered, but they'd have more weight pertaining to the mod in the here and now than the Suggestions forum that's out of the know. (that may have been a restatement of your post)
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I would be like to be tedabester. I like the new things and maps, and testing is fun, as i know it from NML.
One small minus for me is no big surprice on release date, but in real then is it fun again, because you can play with those noobs on public servers. :D But as whole if yes or no, then yes.
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hmm sounds interesting...Yes from me. (hmm..maby.. when I think of it... do I really have the time?)
Why? I´m quite picky.. don´t like bushes sticking in thru a wall (as on purpleheart lane) in german mainbase Orchard, house beside the gramofon I think it was :-)
Also great interest in WWII (some nowledge).... hmm what more,
oh yes..BF1942 veteran.. respect me ...damn u kids. (*picks cane up and walks away with a forward lean)
never been a bester before thou...
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I have considered being very active in the bug-reporting section to pave the way for some future beta-testing-ness. I would hope to contribute in the form of combat logic, analysis of map layout and visual aesthetics besides the usual bughunting.
I've done betatesting before for EVE : Online for about a year.
However, I am unsure if I really would like to participate if asked. This is mostly because I am a busy little bee lately and have to spend about 50% of the year abroad for my projects. The other 50% is either completely boring (e.g. playing FH2 :D) or very busy as well.
Another demotivation is that I enjoy FH2 quite a lot, and I know from experience that betatesting really is a quite serious job, and will not be the same feeling as playing it. It takes away some of the charm of the game knowing how everything is constructed, what changes were or are going to be made etc etc.
So. Would like to, probably yes. Would really do it? Not this year :(
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Well, let me see, the reason i want to be a tadabester would be because i can make the game for the average Joe a lot more enjoyable by letting him play a bug free game. That would be pretty much the only reason. I am not that interested in what goes on behind the scenes that much, just the end result.
Another thing could be that pretty much every body that knows me thinks that i have the incredible ability to see details and errors that nobody else sees, you might think it is a blessing but IRL it is not.
A reason that i don't want to be a tadabester would be that it is hard for me to predict when i have playtime so i will probably spend most of the time walking true maps on my own looking for visual/clapping/glitching/... errors.
Oh, and i can keep my mouth shut :)
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Becoming a tetabester would be one big dreamcrush. On the other hand, I would learn the secrets of the
devs Illuminati, but on the other hand, I would learn of everything they are planning but will not have time to do even in the years to come.
Scheduling is something I'm allergic to as well. Although Thursday and Sunday don't cramp my social life, it would still be scheduled. And proper tetebasting would (well it should) feel like work because it would involve going through every nook and cranny of a map while bouncing backwards on a vehicle carrying a limited kit. (Fond memories of the public "bughunt" event on Cobra back in 2.25...)
Also, keeping the public installation and the latest internal release on HDD would be a hassle.
So I think I prefer the care-free life of a speculating gamma-tester for now ;)
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Becoming a tetabester would be one big dreamcrush. On the other hand, I would learn the secrets of the devs Illuminati, but on the other hand, I would learn of everything they are planning but will not have time to do even in the years to come.
Scheduling is something I'm allergic to as well. Although Thursday and Sunday don't cramp my social life, it would still be scheduled. And proper tetebasting would (well it should) feel like work because it would involve going through every nook and cranny of a map while bouncing backwards on a vehicle carrying a limited kit. (Fond memories of the public "bughunt" event on Cobra back in 2.25...)
Also, keeping the public installation and the latest internal release on HDD would be a hassle.
So I think I prefer the care-free life of a speculating gamma-tester for now ;)
+1
It also much more fun to see everything finished rather than WIP.
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The advantage of seeing new stuff dream is very quickly crushed when you find out that actually, once you join - the information gap just moves forwards a few yards.
Also, there is the IRC initiation ceremony *shudders* I think that completed the breaking of Beaver's mind.
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Yes ofc, ive got nothing better to do. And id like to help.
Although i forsee some problems :
No technical skills(beyond formatting harddisk is to much).
No knowledge of modding besides what i picked up in these forums and some bf42 forums.
Little knowledge about WWII, vehicles, battlegrounds, commanders, army.
I sometimes am a lazy little ****.
I'm usually drunk at saturdays.
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I wouldn't say there is.
Me and rawhide are both swedes, who else? Roden is a tester right? I'm forgetting someone.
>:(
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Roden? No.
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I wouldn't say there is.
Me and rawhide are both swedes, who else? Roden is a tester right? I'm forgetting someone.
>:(
Yeah sorry Zrix :( I said I knew I was forgetting someone!
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I wouldn't say there is.
Me and rawhide are both swedes, who else? Roden is a tester right? I'm forgetting someone.
>:(
Yeah sorry Zrix :( I said I knew I was forgetting someone!
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:-X
>:(
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Not to mention 3 Swedish devs. Way too many Swedes.
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I am inclined to say NO, but this is not a satisfying answer to this question
1. Why I liked to be a tadabester
- Access to latest vehicles/maps/weapons
- Bugs are present, so I sometimes could be gamey and wtfpwn11!!1 everyone
- FH2 is fun.
2. Why I don't liked to be a tadabester
- Gaming are unhealthy (excessive)
- I don't like the idea when I am about to fire the killing shot and get "your connection has a problem"
- Timezone is not matching
- Much of the time of tadabesting is not about gaming (I don't mind to do that for 5 minutes, but I mind if for 2 hours)
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Not to mention 3 Swedish devs. Way too many Swedes.
I agree :P
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Not to mention 3 Swedish devs. Way too many Swedes.
I agree :P
damn. >:(
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Not to mention 3 Swedish devs. Way too many Swedes.
From now one you should only accept people with a Dutch passport imo. ;)
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I'd like to be a tadabester because I have previous experience in testing mods(tested 3 so far), and i've followed the mod for several years. 4 or 5 years I think.
The downside would be that I probably would not have time to test that much.
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First of all, I appreciate the lengths that the dev team and betatesters go in creating and perfecting this excellent mod that has held my interest since the early-median days of FH1 (well, .5 I think). Thank you all.
That said, I am one of the few that has no interest whatsoever in being a tadabester or betatester.
The main reason is that I simply don't have the time to be of much use for the testing team. It's a good week if I can get on for 90 minutes or so to play for fun.
I'm not attracted to the the tedium of hopping around testing statics or trying to replicate an error, by climbing in and out of a tank while another betatester climbs a ladder across the map, for instance. This would drive me into a murderous rage. I do appreciate those who are attracted to this type of work.
Also, I kind of like seeing the finished product...when it's finished. This isn't to say I wouldn't be interested in seeing what's behind the curtain before a release candidate... :)
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"Tadabester" sounds extremely gay for some reason.
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- Bugs are present, so I sometimes could be gamey and wtfpwn11!!1 everyone
To be honest, I don't think we've ever had any bugs (that I can remember) where something is that FUBAR.
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- Bugs are present, so I sometimes could be gamey and wtfpwn11!!1 everyone
To be honest, I don't think we've ever had any bugs (that I can remember) where something is that FUBAR.
P47 rockets....
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I wonder if anyone discovered it yet.
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- Bugs are present, so I sometimes could be gamey and wtfpwn11!!1 everyone
To be honest, I don't think we've ever had any bugs (that I can remember) where something is that FUBAR.
The grappeling hook incident maybe? Oh god was that hilarious.
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haha talking about bugs :p As a former Battlefield Pirates 2 betatester - lots of crazy shit haha!
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I can say that I like it to be one, and I'm very thankful that Toddel recruited me. :)
I'm in a good time zone for that, I have lots of cool internet friends in the team and I even started to learn modelling(!).
The contact to the devs is pretty cool, you can talk to them all night long on teamspeak, they tell you what they are working on, or how things work in the game, how they fixed bugs etc.
And the time they take for you if you show some interest is amazing. :)
I mean, Toddel is telling me everything I want to know about modelling, he slapped me thousand times just that I do it right, and I still did things wrong, but he never stops helping me and I think any other dev would do the same.
Not to forget the fun you have at the sessions, some epic lols we had some nights, will never forget the first night, playing pre 2.2 till 2am with Fenring, Priest and Wasntme. :)
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Somewhere last year I got a PM that told me I was a betatester. I still have no clue why they picked me.
Side effects of betatesting is that I play way less FH2 then I used to.
Not to mention 3 Swedish devs. Way too many Swedes.
Purge.
The.
Swedes.
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It seems that I never told my story after all :). So there I was, fighting polar bears with my bare hands. It got a bit boring after a while so I checked the FH forum, still fending off the pesky polar bears (bloody teddies are under protection) and saw [1] nex to my Messages. "You have been chosen to be a betatester please register here and there. Welcome to the team."
Ok, putting silly stories aside, I got very excited. I didn't even think of saying 'no' at that time and I'm glad it stayed that way. You have to realize that this was pre 2.2 so everything in public version was desert, desert and moar desert. I also got a bit hot-headed from my new title and 'teased' other regulars along with other fresh testers that day. Yet still my motivation was to have some posotive influence on the mod from the inside and help devs with their work although I don't have any moding skills as most of you. Anyway that was the beginning.
Now I'm a tester for almost a year now and I got some thoughts and a bit of experience on that matter. Listen carefully cause I'm gonna reveal some secrets ;).
Most valuable assests of a betatester is time and dedication. If you can't afford for at least 3-4 hours a week on tests you shouldn't accept your invitation if you want to be fair to the devs that invite you. Dedication would be best shown in (apart from session attendance) forum/comunity activity. If you are afraid to speak out your mind or don't care what happens on internal forum - don't bother signing up. I've seen far too many people jumping in for a couple of sessions and disapearing or the other way around - people that test but do not speak out in the forum where they're needed as well.
Apart from those two main atributes you don't to have to meet any other criteria in my book. Being a nice chap is also a plus and knowind something about modding increases your chances of being 'caught up' a lot. Yet still it doesn't make you effective tester.
What I wrote might seem harsh and pretty elitist-no-life way of thinking. At some part it is but that's just ideal conditions if you ask me. I realize everyone has "a life" and other duties/activities. We are all a mix of good and bad within our personalization. But when you're a tester you have to pay an adequate price for your luxuries if you ask me.
Ofcourse testing is not only work. We keep it fun and light so we won't get put off with our testing duties. The best situation if you feel the need inside of you to help others in the team instead of "crap, I have to do it again" attitude. Testing sessions are often 2 hours of pure fun so it's not so bad as some of you may think.
It seems I can't make any conclusive ending to this babbling so I better just cut it here :).
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Because it´s simply awesome to find a crashbug on a releasecandidate, few days before the release and therefore doing what you are meant to do (allthough Toddel and Natty might have got some grey hairs more that time 8) )
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I said yes.
I was a bit surprised I got the message of recruitment, because nobody here knows what I look like, so it can't be my natural charms... ::)
Pre 2.2 I was getting a bit tired of FH2 and I was already thinking about swicthing to other games, but then this message made me stay. It made FH2 interesting again for me.
Testing can be fun, it can be tedious, but the feeling you get when a big bug (especially the infamous crashbug) is great, I can't really describe it.
The best one was my first, jumping in and out of a certain vehicle, switching to all positions till the "There is a problem with your connection". It sounds weird, but at such a moment, you are happy to read that!
The other crashbugs were epic too. Yes, bughunting is my fav thing.
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It's a natural thing to do, to make you favourite mod better where possible.
Being a beta tester is one the best thing members of this community can do to contribute,
because the others stuff, modelling, skinning and map building is real real really hard work.
I know I've done them all :)
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Too many people join just to see bling and then they fuck off. I pity da foo's.
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We have the best betatesters imaginable :) they are better than us devs ;D
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Surprise buttsex may get you.
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Of course - It sounds kinky *tadabester* *giggles*. Other than that, no not really. I couldn't deal with frequent crashing, faulty versions, glitching, and other miserable crap before the majority is buffed out. With all that stuff, I might come to bad conclusion about this mod... :D
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-So can I go through all the armor/vehicles pre-release and call out anything I feel is wrong or find any mistake I can, as that's pretty much what I do now over at WaW. Also, point out things for balancing in gameplay vehicles-wise, that doesn't counteract history.
Time and dedication is not a problem for me. I've been here since .5s release and have way too much time on my hands after work on weekdays already spent looking at the BF2editor and shit.
Proficient enough with the editor and .tweak/con files to be able to find the bugs myself.
Tbh, it'd more or less to be able to get advice on how to start modding shit myself and point out the little things.
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I enjoy playing rough versions of games. No idea why.
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I accepted the invite because I wanted to help out. I mean, if my help gets a better game out faster, then I think it's worth it. Unlike other people, I actually didn't get into it just to see the new stuff. I'm a little disappointed that I don't get the mass-surprise factor of new releases, but the little surprises that crop up more regularly almost make up for it.
It's just a shame that, between looking for a job and moving to a new house, I don't have enough time to devote to testing right now...
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Well here it goes my road/story to become a tester.
Either way I started out in the F|H Tournament playing then eventually I joined there Testing team and was there for around 1 full year, I was also lucky that on the same testing team for the F|H testing team were 2 Beta testers and they noticed me and my eager/time spend and the fact that I always showed up for the testing’s and was very devoted towards the Mod/testing.
So when the Mod looked for testers around 1 year ago now or basically just after Normandy was released they suggested me to the Mod team and I was in luck, and received a mail with an invite.
And I have to say the euphoria I experienced when I was joining the testing team, was beyond describable, I am so happy that I am a part of the Testing team and the Mod and that I have the possibility to help make this a better Mod and help reduced glitches/bugs etc. off cause there are huge plusses like that we get to see map and equipment but remember a lot off it doesn’t work when we get it, that’s were the testers like me come in to the picture, we are there to make it work to make sure ones it is release it works and is something the public can enjoy and play with and have fun with, and yes we are whipped and yes we are tortured, nahh to be honest some times like that last patch that hade around a 1000 plus minus a few, bug fixes, sounds, glitches, game play tweaks, balance issues, etc in it was really really hard to test and isn’t always fun, but we get it done for 1 simple reason the release day is one off the biggest things at least it is for me seeing peoples comments in game and on the forums after a release, and besides its loads off more fun to play it with the public after release.
Doing testing I am also making sure that every thing is being tested even if it means I have to doo things to the other testers doing testing that they hate or will dislike me for but I doo it to make sure the point is well made or that it is something that if in need to be changed its clearly understandable bye my actions, I am always trying to stay true to the testing as much as possible and what we are being told to test and follow the Devs advice/orders, and give the suggestion/advice to the mappers/devs as I think they shut be in a fair manor towards both game play and the Mods philosophy.
I have been a Beta tester for around 1 year now, and I am not leaving ever, if I can avoid it. Plain and simple this mod is THE MOD! For me and have been sins day 1 of FH1 release were I played this and fell in love and I have been here ever since, witch is actually a really really long time bye now. And i can almost say with a 100% confidence that i have played this Mod almost 1 time atleast every week for the past feew years with offcause a feew eceptions.
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Yes - and no
I'd be excellent for detecting bugs since I've always loved to crash the system for every game I play and I have a 1001 suggestions that could have more use if I BTed... However, I'm terrible at time-management, my internet connection sucks balls - when it exists at all, and I'd be killing the fun from the game for myself.
Yer, I'd love to stay put...
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I'm terrible at time-management
Haha, this made me laugh, i have yet to meet a black african that is born and raised in africa that has good time management. When i meet with an african friend, and they say be there at 2, i arrive at 2:30 and am still the first one there. It's so funny :p
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I'm terrible at time-management
Haha, this made me laugh, i have yet to meet a black african that is born and raised in africa that has good time management. When i meet with an african friend, and they say be there at 2, i arrive at 2:30 and am still the first one there. It's so funny :p
The same could be said for all people living in the warmer regions of this planet. They are all more chilled then us 'coldies'.
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Very short=No
Even if one of the guys come to me and says=coughcoughcoughcoughchurchillscoughcoughcoughyamkiiitomkviiacough
I am a tester on several mods. and while it is fun, it spoils things. I like to wait for a release, to await to the day it arrives, to see the content finnaly wich i saw on newsposts, and those wich we did not . to see the new map changes, to see the new bugs ( giggity ;D ) and so on
To people that wanna become a tester in a mod some day i recommend=
1.Ask yourself why you wanna be one. Is it because you wanna see all the new things? Or because you wanna help the devs with testing, find bugs, speed up release dates and to please the community?
2 Stay with one mod. Unless you have lots of spare time
3. Devote yourself to it a bit, and listen towards what people say in the public
4. Dont be biased to one side/faction. If you suggest a balance change for your personal gain and not because of an actuall balance issue (Like saying that shermans should one shot a panther tank from the sides) ;D ;D
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I would like to cuz I've been in this community for almost half a decade, know quite a lot of historical info and tactical info that might be helpful in designing things and such, and would love to have a chance to help out with the making of it....
Same here dude, same here ... After all, I'm also one of the superior five digit elite!
But honestly as much time as I've put into supporting and playing this mod over the years, it would be great to be a part of the creating process. I also have a lot of testing experience, being a part of many internal beta tests for mods in the past.
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I'm terrible at time-management
Haha, this made me laugh, i have yet to meet a black african that is born and raised in africa that has good time management. When i meet with an african friend, and they say be there at 2, i arrive at 2:30 and am still the first one there. It's so funny :p
The same could be said for all people living in the warmer regions of this planet. They are all more chilled then us 'coldies'.
Oh that, some of us try very hard to counter. Its sadly a culture thing. We evewn have a name for it... gmt, as opposed to GMT, where 'gm' refers to ghana-man, and 't' is time
But my issue is more of multi-tasking. I collapse like a house of cards under pressure so I'll be hopeless as a tester
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Being a B-tester would be a good opportunity to help in the development of the mod.
Also to improve communication/analytic skills.
Of course it's always fun to know what's going on behind the green door. (http://chopard.fest4.free.fr/emoticons/army/armata/armata_PDT_11.gif)
And making friends by the same time. (http://chopard.fest4.free.fr/emoticons/army/armata/armata_PDT_08.gif)
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Green door?
No, trust me, it's more like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqWeQNbXUlQ