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Off-Topic => Off-Topic => Topic started by: Biiviz on 14-03-2012, 23:03:39
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So it turns out zombies are cool. To avoid spamming up the TWD topic, let's just dump all the zombie-related discussion here.
To start things off, here's my zombie apocalypse kit:
Melee: Aluminum bat
Sidearm: .45 cal. pistol (faster than reloading in tense situations)
Main weapon: Something with the following properties;
-Low maintenance
-Low recoil
-Select-fire
-5.56 hollow point ammunition (or 7.62 if recoil is low)
-ACOG 4x scope
-Suppressor
Equipment: Breaching shotgun, crowbar (silent breach), 24h food supply, 10l camelbak, bite/scratch/knife-resistant clothing (kevlar?), knife (avoid combat use)
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Cool HL2 mod: http://www.nomoreroominhell.com/
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i will be more of a "Shelther guy"
So i will probaly find myself the best location for a good bunker and long term survival
Some criteria=
-One entry and 2 exits(Window)
-Preferably off the ground
-A window with no acces to the ground(but openable for a ladder to be placed as an emergency exit)
-Entry should be accesable by a standard stairs(easy defendable) with a preference to a ladder
-a toilet(or makeshift one that dumps everything to the ground!)
-A bed
-huge place for storing
-And a century amount of toilet paper and alchohol hand cleaner
Food=
-Canned food
-Vitamin supplements
-Tonnes of water
-Something to catch rainwater
-A stove, preferably wood and cutelary to boil water and prepare food
-Storage for firewood
As for equipment for defending and outdoors
Melee
-a good machete as primary melee and as secondary melee a kukri. Both are multifunctional tools wich get the job done
Sidearm
-Preferably a 9mm one, since this is the most popular cartigde in Belgium and europe (US has .45 as better option). In wich a FN GP(Browning hi-power) seems a good choise. Maybe equipped with a strong flashlight, it might blind zombies
Primary weapon
-FN FAL
FN FAL because of the high avaibility of 7.62x51 NATO and .308 winchester ammo in belgium. Very accurate and powerfull with single shot. Also good reliability and can be mounted with bayonet
OR
-AK 47 (Preferably AKM , East german AKM or Yugoslavian
7.62x39 ammo is easy to find in gunshops. And in huge quantities. Its often said the AK is very inaccurate. I call this bullshit as i fired my own in Poland. Single shot it is accurate enough for any standard range and with 3 round bursts its an amazing weapon.
Also very reliable and rarely needs cleaning! (exept when firing corrosive millsurp ammo)
Also the bayonet is also a very usefull wirecutter. The type 1 Bayonet is long enough to be usefull, while the type 2-3 knifes are usefull in other situations
(http://www.ak47bayonets.com/images/system/norm.php?37984-00-7-23-07-015.jpg)
(Bottom one type 1, middle type 4, top type 3)
OR
-Any SMG, like the PPSH, Sten or vigneron. For 9mm ammo sakes
Equipment=
-Leather outfit (We all know why)
-Flares (Yes Flares!)
-matches and other survival shit
-Food and water. A good camelbag as mentioned by biiviz is the best thing you can have.
-toiletpaper(YES)
The best way to survive is to avoid them. These things need food, these things must be vurnable to cold. I say wait it out and let nature kill them
Also search for survivor girl to spend the cold nights with ;D
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Once again.
My zombie apocalypse kit:
1 gun, 1 bullet.
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Probably sharpening one of the long bayonets I have and use it. Almost no working firearms available in the safe and glorious banana kingdom of the Netherlands. I do live in the part where the population is at it's lowest, that's positive.
Once again.
My zombie apocalypse kit:
1 gun, 1 bullet.
Ya optin' out, fella? 'Cause that crazy scientist up in dem fancy buildin' out thar did the same, yer cowaaard!
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Varusteleka, one of the largest militaria/military surplus store is Europe, is having a "Zombie survival month". Till the end of march they have a bunch of zombie-apocalypse survival related equipment on sale.
http://www.varusteleka.fi/group/product-of-the-month/378
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As I posted in the Walking dead thread I would take:
- Clevers
- Some Metal pipe or the like (I really think you will get stuck with anything else in the Zombies at some point. Bloody hell, I can´t even cut bread properly - it´s either cut to thick or a destroyed something).
- Gloves and thick protection clothing
- I´m realistic about firearms, I won´t find them
- A big Jeep or SUV with a big grid in front for movement and then of course fuel
- Canned food and water
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Well, if we're going with realistic options on firearms I'd have to steal a car and go to my parents house where I have my shotgun, my dad's shotgun and my mother's scoped .22 LR.
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I wonder what the halflife on a zombie is? I mean, they are for all intents and purposes walking corpses, so decay is going to set in pretty quickly and soon they'll all be far too rotted or gnawed upon to move. So you only have to hold out for so long before the area will be safe (though obviously there will still be the odd one or two hanging about - but not more than you can handle).
As for armament, well, I'm partial to any large cutting implement: assuming I'm not away at uni I can have access to shotguns, billhooks, chainsaws, axes etc. A sledge axe might be nice to use assuming there aren't too many zombies about - it's basically a sledge hammer with one head replaced with an axe blade. I'd also have my entrenching tool. Still, you'd probably want to stay out of the way as much as possible. Wait till it dies down a bit and then go do whatever 'shopping' you need to do.
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I wonder what the halflife on a zombie is? I mean, they are for all intents and purposes walking corpses, so decay is going to set in pretty quickly and soon they'll all be far too rotted or gnawed upon to move. So you only have to hold out for so long before the area will be safe (though obviously there will still be the odd one or two hanging about - but not more than you can handle).
Yep. In a "realistic" scenario we would be talking about more of a '28 days later'-ish biological or chemical agent that causes uncontrollable rage. The laws of physics and biological limitations would still be applicable on the subject, i.e. lack of blood flow, severely damaged muscles, lack of oxygen/chemicals to the brain etc. would effectively render the subject incapacitated. Of course, this is only how I look at it. One could imagine a cancer-like mutation that causes cells to regenerate at an extreme rate, or some such.
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im also realistic, I would NEVER find a gun, the closest police station is 30 minutes on foot and knowing the pansy Im, the first hours/days of the outbrake I will be, with my neighbors, barricating our apartament building, gathering food from the supermarked, stealing fuel from abandoned cars, then parking cars exactly next to the exit, put carrs in front of the main entrances/small streets to make a choke point in case of a horde attack, also easy to defend.
use the fuel to power the generators on the basement and get electric power to cook or lights when needed. do small runs to the supermarked until it gets empty or to risky.
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I have been playing RE 1, so i decided to do it the Left 4 Dead way, fucking kill every fucker in ya way, i failed but they didnt killed me yet, zombies arent smart fellas you know, but the problem is RE doesnt give you much ammo, and now i have to kill a huge ass spider and i just have a knife. Nice trollin'
WOOOOOOOOOOOOH Says Barry.
There must be a backdoor somewhere.. ;D
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Best would be something like Stryker, or LAV changed into caravan. With food supply for week at least.
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Varusteleka, one of the largest militaria/military surplus store is Europe, is having a "Zombie survival month". Till the end of march they have a bunch of zombie-apocalypse survival related equipment on sale.
http://www.varusteleka.fi/group/product-of-the-month/378
Military surplus stores must have created the whole zombie apocalypse genre, they have benefited so much from it.
Anyone read World War Z?
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World War Z was a pretty good read. It was interesting how people survived and the winter months were the ones filled with less mobile zombies.
I'd recommend it for any zombie lover.
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In Las Vegas, theyre big gunstore has a Zombie Package you can rent that has "Zombie survival guns" and you fire at zombie targets.
http://store.thegunstorelasvegas.com/the-zombie-package
My dad did it when he was in Vegas for a conference...best thing is. The Zombie targets are not just zombies, they are NAZI ZOMBIES! I shit you not.
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A pistol to shoot myself in the head with.
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A pistol to shoot myself in the head with.
Are you sure you arent an emo man? What about your family? Dont be a coward.
For my survival kit. A plate carrier IV level with plenty of pouches that protects sides and front and back, with trauma plates too. My clothes would be of heavy leather with breathable places in it, so I dont sweat and kevlar at the joints, with reinforced material. Heavy duty boots with steel toes so I can kick the fuckers really hard.
My main weapon of choice should be something abundant and accurate which I could hunt with too, so I would chose a semi auto rifle in 5.56x45 (223) with at least 30 rounds, most likely an Ar15 carbine with an acog.
Side arm: A 45acp pistol, most likely a custom M1911.
A very long and stable sharp weapon like a kukri blade.
A pair of very long range binoculars
A camel back
A heavy duty backpack to store my items.
A radio and tons of batteries.
Flashlights, the russian tanker night vision helmet I plan to buy soon with plenty of batteries, several boxes to store my ammo in my backpack and the basic survival needs items.
For the shelter, I would go with my crew to a a heavy position perhaps not touching the ground with just two entrances/exits. Construction sides provide excellent cover and materials to buy a very strong structure and shelter. Raid all the supermarkets (but be very careful, hasty people would go there and perhaps will be bitten and there may be zombies there), so take everything you can in carts or a suv. Prepare to meet surviving humans, either ask them to join you and go to their place, if they are violent, you might be forced to blow their brains out and take all their stuff with you.
Stay overwatch in your shelter, construct walls along the perimeter with your new crew, place several things to catch rainwater, if the land is fertile, grow plants (supermarkets have seeds of several fruits and vegetables).
Construct several watch towers, poise guys there with heavy duty binoculars to stay overwatch.
Several pits to burn all the zombies that are destroyed, at least 40 feet wide, 10 feet deep.
Several sharp sticks or everything sharp around the perimeter, it wont last but it will buy you time and when it's safe you can clean it and throw the fuckers in the fire pits.
For last, place with any kind of material you have an sign that can be seen from the air: HELP!
There, you should be very safe enough to destroy every zombies that may come to hunger for your brains and guts.
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Now for the more pressing concern; where to find poontang?
/edit: The 'last man on earth'-line is finally in your favor ;)
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Now for the more pressing concern; where to find poontang?
/edit: The 'last man on earth'-line is finally in your favor ;)
When you're in a close group of survivors with women, I suspect the tragedy can bring people together ^^ Unless she's a lesbian, you're fucked.
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A pistol to shoot myself in the head with.
Are you sure you arent an emo man? What about your family? Dont be a coward.
If you'd hear him about his family you would shoot yourself too in that situation.. And that is even counting on the fact that your family does not get infected, very naive.
But Pascucci, at least do it for the German cars. They need us! Just get yourself to Maine, right after they announce a virus has broken out I take the first plane to Maine and hide in Lainer's house. You'll let me in, right Lainer?
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In here zombie will eventually be wiped out from random natural disasters frequently striking the land every year. Be it tsunami, volcanic explosion, random tropical storm, occasional flooding, etc.
I don't know if even Nemesis from RE series can survive that.
What I am thinking is what to do if I survived the after climatic apocalypse. I have to deal with the fact that there may not be FH2 development anymore, no internet, no TV, and continue to live in boredom until you die.
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If you'd hear him about his family you would shoot yourself too in that situation.. And that is even counting on the fact that your family does not get infected, very naive.
Surviving is the key mate. Family is the best, but if they die, you cant do anything more than continue forward. I wouldnt shot myself at all. As for the fact that zombies might be family members or friends, I would hesitate for sometime, mourning, then shoot them, they wouldnt be your family or friends anymore.
Dont be like the idiotic farm guy in the walking dead.
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I wonder what the halflife on a zombie is? I mean, they are for all intents and purposes walking corpses, so decay is going to set in pretty quickly and soon they'll all be far too rotted or gnawed upon to move. So you only have to hold out for so long before the area will be safe (though obviously there will still be the odd one or two hanging about - but not more than you can handle).
Yep. In a "realistic" scenario we would be talking about more of a '28 days later'-ish biological or chemical agent that causes uncontrollable rage. The laws of physics and biological limitations would still be applicable on the subject, i.e. lack of blood flow, severely damaged muscles, lack of oxygen/chemicals to the brain etc. would effectively render the subject incapacitated. Of course, this is only how I look at it. One could imagine a cancer-like mutation that causes cells to regenerate at an extreme rate, or some such.
Another scenario is "Highschool of the dead" zombies
In wich a virus shuts down the frontal lobs of the brain, wich controls your personality, behaviour ETC
In other words your brain only thinks of=
-Food water breath poop
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If you'd hear him about his family you would shoot yourself too in that situation.. And that is even counting on the fact that your family does not get infected, very naive.
Surviving is the key mate. Family is the best, but if they die, you cant do anything more than continue forward. I wouldnt shot myself at all. As for the fact that zombies might be family members or friends, I would hesitate for sometime, mourning, then shoot them, they wouldnt be your family or friends anymore.
Dont be like the idiotic farm guy in the walking dead.
And why is surviving the key? Why can't someone decide for himself what the key is?
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Its a man/woman choise to know if he wants to survive a situation like this, yes or no.
If you dont wanna survive, nobody will stop you from killing yourself
But i would go out in a blaze ;D
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Setting yourself on fire? Personally I think that would be too painful. Maybe I would make my way to the western parts of the Netherlands to blow up Rotterdam. Never liked that city. It's not like people will care by then.
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I live near the ocean and there are a LOT of small island around. My cousins have a cabin on one of them. He has declared it the, Zombie Apocalypse Rally point. In the event of Zombies, we all go to the island, clear it of Zombies (if necessary), and wait it out. The cabin is large enough to comfortably house 12 people, and there are other cabins on the island many of which would probably be empty. Food would not be a problem as the ocean would provide all we would need. (The first nations used to have a saying here, 'When the tide is out, the table is set.)
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Setting yourself on fire? Personally I think that would be too painful. Maybe I would make my way to the western parts of the Netherlands to blow up Rotterdam. Never liked that city. It's not like people will care by then.
Strapping myself with buttloads of explosives and jumping in a zombie crowd
or going out rambo style with guns guns guns guns and guns
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Here's my zombie prep.
The Plan: To find a safe house far from civilization, but not way off the map. To be self efficient and live off the land. Try to stay away from towns for the most part. Be observant of the current situation, do not totally isolate your self. Remember, towns are full of people, that will probably have the highest zombie count.
The Group; Make sure you know who you're going to take with you. More than likely, you will have some warning of the zombie outbreak, before it reaches your area. It is up to you who you would group with, if at all possible. Personally, my group will be very small. Family and a few friends we can trust. You'll also have to establish who will be leading early in the game.
Planning Ahead of Time Don't wait for the disaster to happen and then try to make your plan. Map out possible safe locations, (If your really, "Paranoid" you'll maybe even own property somewhere to construct a safe location). It is best to have everything you need ahead of time. When an outbreak occurs, you will not want to have to gather supplies in town. More than likely, looting and violence will have already started. This is the time that your try to group up and head out. Given the situation appears to be escalating out of control.
Be Prepared, You Gotta Eat: Be prepared for anything. Obtain the knowledge to live off the land, hunt for meat, and grow your own food. We've got a stockpile of seeds, all of which are heirloom (That means you can collect the seeds from the plant), and we have the knowledge of planting them , harvesting, and collecting seeds (Lots to know). In the case of an emergency, you cant grow produce that first year, so have stocked up food supplies. It is also key to posses knowledge of food storage. We know how to preserve meats and vegetables. We save some of our current produce for storage by dehydrating it (Good for 2-4 years), just add water. This method takes up less space, we do it every year in case an event happens (It's not like being prepared is a big chore, we live our life as normal, and we have no reason to be paranoid, we're all set). We also know how to make our own beef/deer jerky, good for 1-2 years, can be eaten as is. It is good to have enough meals for at least 2 years, 3 meals per day. That will not be able to be carried by back, so at least 3-6 months of food. If you have a vehicle, pack it smart. Don't forget about water. You'll definitely want different ways of purifying water!
Good basic staples: Wheat, Rice, Beans, Peas, Lentils, Honey or Sugar, Salt
Dried Milk, Peanut Butter, Dried Fruit, Canned food, Dried food, Oatmeal.
We're Going Camping: Now is a good time to evaluate what you'll carry, and have it ready for moments notice. Don't bog yourself down with too much. Assuming you have a vehicle to make it to your safe-house, a lot can be carried. You'll want to bring: your food, ammunition, weapons, clothing, survival gear, and supplies. Here's a brief list of important items: stocked food, basic cookware, matches, more matches, water purification and filters, flashlights, water bottles/canteens, compass, duck-tape, multitool, compass, maps, sewing kits, space-blankets, small shovel/E-tool, machete, hatchet, paracord, supply of fishing line and hooks, medical supplies, bleach, gun cleaning supplies, materials such as plastic, rope, cloth, ect, heavy duty clothing -summer and winter, camo never hurts, more info can be found on the web.
Defense: Defense is important, you might be fending off a hoard of zombies, or defending yourself from humans that want what you have. Either way, you'll need weapons! One important tip, keep your group shooting the same ammo. Personally, I feel it is good to chose upon one side arm caliber, and one rifle caliber. Personally, I favor the 9mm or .45 auto for handguns, 5.45×39mm or 7.62x39mm, and .22Lr. Yea, I did say 22 long rifle. Ammo can be carried by the thousands, high cap mags that hold 50rnds plus, and it's light. I wouldn't necessarily want to fight zombies with it, but it is still a great choice to have for: Target practice, small game hunting, and hey, it might take down a zombie. My personal favorite choice for a 22, is the Ruger 10/22 combined with a high quality scope.
Side Arm: You'll definitely want a side arm with stopping power, ammo capacity, and reliability.
My choices would be a Glock 17 in 9mm, Smith and Wesson model 59 in 9mm, or a 1911 in .45 auto.
All are easy to reload, reliable, and light weight.
Medium Range Rifle Choice: You'll want a reliable weapon capable of shooting lots of ammo before it's next cleaning, reliable, east to reload, and a large ammo capacity. For this, I would want an AK 74. No other. The AK74 is a rugged weapon, with good accuracy, and reliable. Ammo is relatively cheap, light enough, and high capacity mags and drums are available. Compared to the AK47, the 74's recoil is low. The 74 is easy to control, and keep rounds going to the target, and not into the air.
Melee Weapon: This is mostly your choice. But pick something smart. You'll use your melee weapon when your up close and personal with zombies. It has to be an efficient and effective weapon. I would not advise a golf club, the part that would deal out damage is at the end. My personal favorite would probably be a baseball bat/hard pipe, and a nice machete. The baseball bat is capable of damaging the brain, and it wont get stuck into the flesh and bone. If that happens, you'll waste time taking it out, our have to leave it behind. I would not advise an axe for this reason.
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AK74 is a good choise. Plenty of military .223 NATO versions around so you can use military ammo aswel
I am wondering guys, if i have to take one of my bolt action rifles as my defense, wich one should i take?
Lee-enfield for fast ROF and 10 round capacity?(SMLE with long bayonet)
Mosin nagant for very rugged design and huge surplus amounts in gun shops? also kick-ass long bayonet
Or K31 with very fast ROF and recently, good ammo avaibility?
There's a gunshop in waver wich can import(But requires gun permit)(always ready-supply) of Ishapore 2A1 SMLE rifles in 7.62x51mm NATO. Sounds like a good Zombie bolt action rifle along with a long bladed bayonet ;D
you will barely find full auto-rifles here anyway
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I would go for the MN 91/30, good amounts of ammo, helluva bayonet, but if possible, scoped (or atleast kind of ZF-41ish mounting of some kind)
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A mauser doesnt sound to bad aswel. Because it still remains the popular rifle around here
Alot of gunshops also with swedish mausers and 6.5x55 ready avaible ammo
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I would go Enfield. I hear they are very easy to reload, plus holding 10 rounds is nice. I have never shot one yet... :(
But yea, Ak74 is a great choice I think. Does not have to be full auto. Full auto would not be that useful, really.
I know someone who's making a adapter for the 74. It will then hold M4 mags. Just needs a barrel change to 223.
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AK74's exists in .223 nato with an adaptor to hold any STANAG mag (but also origenal mags aswel)
Converting requires barrel, bolt head and something else.i have to check my AK bible
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I made a nailspiked bat for a halloween costume party once, think I still have that laying around somewhere. Personally, I'm going to spend the end of the world having fun. Seriously, I wish for the zombie apocalypse. Think of it, don't you have a neighbor that you just hate and want to bash his skull in? Well, during a zombie outbreak we can! I'm all for melee weapons because if you plan on mass slaughtering everyone in the street it has to up close and bloody. I hate my neighbors, so, yeah....
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The best zombie weapons are melee ones, crossbow or bow, slingshot and such. Guns usually fall under the "Last resort" category.
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i have saw Dawn of the dead and land of the dead. cool movies. but does anyone else got some good zombie movie reccomendations?
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Shaun of the Dead, great movie
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28 days / 28 weeks later.
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Here's to hoping World War Z the film will be as good as the book :(
.. oh and AK's are terrible for headshots ;D
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28 days / 28 weeks later.
Never considerated these zombies, just angry dudes. They dont even eat other people.
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They come at you with ferocious urge to get rid of you and wont stop at nothing to do so unless you kill them first. Screw technical terms in that case.
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28 days / 28 weeks later.
Never considerated these zombies, just angry dudes. They dont even eat other people.
Fine. Show me a zombie film with real zombies from African religions then.
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Melee: Machete
Sidearm: colt 1911A1
Main weapon: I really don't know probably a lee enfield or a m1 garand. With bayonet for sure
Equipement: Kabar Knife, leather outfit, my hat (I wear an Indy hat in my everyday life so I can't imagine not wearing it), energy bar and water.
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Steyr AUG is the way to go. Both indestructible weapons, even work under water or after getting soaked in mud. Aug has a built in scope, great accuracy, 5,56 ammo still has a lot of punch against soft targets, can fire automatic if needed, very easy to maintain and clean if needed. Would be my weapon of choice.
As a sidearm, id probably take a Colt M1911 or Glock 17. As for close combat, probably my Katana here on the wall, that would be a huge fun to cut trough them with it :)
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Not all AUGs have that fancy 1.5x scope as seen in games. Most will feature iron sights.
Moreover, that will be quite bothersome to maintain.
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Uhm, no, its the other way round. The Aug's standard version comes with a scope. Only a few special purpose versions have the rail where you can attach any other scope you want to use.
And believe me, the AUG is probably the easiest weapon to keep firing. You can completely disassemble it without any tools in 20 seconds, it only consists of 6 major parts and 6 more minor parts. 12 pieces in total. Its easier to put it together than Lego.
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Here's to hoping World War Z the film will be as good as the book :(
.. oh and AK's are terrible for headshots ;D
This highly depend on wich model you have. Well, in wich country they where manufactured.
AND what country of origin your ammo is
there is a diffrence between AK47 and AKM. The accuracy diffrence between them is HUGE.
A russian AK, firing in SINGLE shot is accurate enough. It is a good AK
Romanian and bulgarian are also considerd
AK's of the better quality are often considerd to be Polish, hungarian and Later built Chinese AK's (Not type 56's but the type 81.
Even better quality goes to the Yugoslavian, East german and very surpising=Iraqi Ak's.
The best of the best is without doubt the Finnish AK's.
As for ammo, Yugoslavian(Serbian), east german, finnish, hungarian and romanian are considerd the best surplus ammo. Chinese(some),Russian (certain time periods) north korean, vietnamase are regarded as poor.
Soviet surplus ammo is often very good but i heard reports of 1950-60 ammo being not satisfactory in accuracy
The problem with Ak's, is that accuracy is often determined in full automatic firepower. Wich indeed, the AK sucks. But short burts of 3 rounds deliver good results. And later AKm's have much better accuracy in full auto(due to reduced muzzle jump and recoil).
I fired a polish and a east german AK in poland.The surplus ammo was polish, east german and yugoslavian and i was very surprised by the accuracy. the grouping was small enough for the head, and the range was 150 meters. I fired semi-automatic btw. I would say the grouping was around 97mm in diameter. With 6 rounds out of 10 being very close to the"center". I did have however, 2 flyers(rounds wich where way off), but i think that was my inexperience.
The real danger in AK's lie in the ones being put together from various Ak's from various countries.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9oITR_KZok
The libyan rebel who uploaded this video, later reported that the AK was made with a mix of chinese and russian parts for the RECIEVER. Thus showing the cause of the explosion
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i have saw Dawn of the dead and land of the dead. cool movies. but does anyone else got some good zombie movie reccomendations?
DAwn of the Dead 1978 or the new one? My top ten zombie films:
- Dawn of the Dead 1978
- Planet Terror
- The Living Dead at Manchester Morgue (aka Let Sleeping Corpses Lie)
- The Beyond
- Hell of the Living Dead
- Shaun of the Dead
- Zeder
- REC
- Return of the Living Dead
- Zombie 2
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i have saw Dawn of the dead and land of the dead. cool movies. but does anyone else got some good zombie movie reccomendations?
DAwn of the Dead 1978 or the new one? My top ten zombie films:
both
Loved them both :)
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Speaking of zombies, I'll probably be picking up an Arsenal SGL-31 or SLR-107F
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Saw a show today on TV. it was about what was the best "Zombie" weapon.
All i saw, where pimped out AR 15's............with flashlights, laser sights, ACOG scopes here and over there..
Yet not a single one had a bayonet :/
Am i the only one who thinks it is handy to have a Bayonet on your weapon to fight against zombies?
Please dont give the usual dumb comment of "A knife is more effective". You can carry both a proper bowie knife AND a bayonet attached on your rifle. What is faster? A quick stab stab stab with bayonet, or to drop your weapon and pull out your knife?
Also
http://zombie.wikia.com/wiki/Zombie_Wiki
I have had many reading pleasure with this site :)
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A nice stab is faster, sure, but as you always go for the head I'm afraid there's a risk of it getting stuck. The best alternative is a sidearm, of course.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IEOtvupVnE
/Edit: Although I don't know why that guy is looking at his weapon instead of his surroundings while reloading.
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still, it is that nice extra backup. And if you are good with jury-rigging. This might hurt some, but. you could take a mosin nagant bayonet, cut off the socket. Take the bayonet itself, and weld it it to the attachment.
Now there are 2 handy advantages to it
1. The mosin nagant bayonet was especially designed to pierce things and leaves a very nasty cruciform wound
2. It was also very easy to pull out of a corpse.
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leaves a very nasty cruciform wound
Considering it's zombies we're fighting, the shape of the wound does not matter, unless you stab them to the head with it, in which case a "nastier" wound would probably be more likely to incapacitate the zombie (either destroying the motor centres of brain and/or crushing the atlas vertebra, don't know if severing the spinal cord would do also).
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IMHO severing the spine cord would work, provided you hit the right spots. Would be funny to stab the spine and only paralyze it's mouth.
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Knowing my luck, i wouldn't survive for more than a few days. Anyways, being totally honest, i wouldn't be well armed.
Perhaps a pistol, with some luck i could get a USP or SIG 552 our Police "Special Unit" use.., but that'd be rare. Instead, i have a bigger chance of finding a Argentine made FN FAL from our Army.
And my place wouldn't be my house, it is easy to defend tho, 2 entrances, easy to lock, completely surrounded by houses, no way you can "flank" it. Just lock the main door and i'm done. You can also escape from it by jumping from the tallest roof into other house, but that might hurt a little bit!
My place would be Estadio Presidente Perón, if im going to die, i will die there.
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i have saw Dawn of the dead and land of the dead. cool movies. but does anyone else got some good zombie movie reccomendations?
DAwn of the Dead 1978 or the new one? My top ten zombie films:
- Dawn of the Dead 1978
- Planet Terror
- The Living Dead at Manchester Morgue (aka Let Sleeping Corpses Lie)
- The Beyond
- Hell of the Living Dead
- Shaun of the Dead
- Zeder
- REC
- Return of the Living Dead
- Zombie 2
Dont forget Day of the Dead
"CHOOOKE OOOON IIIIT!"
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I was ashamed of how many useless firearms were listed here. Read "Zombie: survivers quide" and you'll learn A LOT about zombie survival. Exellent book.
My survival kit is this.
-Winchester leaver action (because pistols should be left for real hardcore shooters)
-Crowbar (Fits for bashing and opening stuff)
-Long bayonett, that fits for slashing also (stabbing a zombie up close isn't what I would do to often.
-MRE-food, canned foor, Estonian bars with honey-covered sunflowerseeds (They are really good!)
-Something to trade
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You are forgetting round availability Baska. If I was to be in a zombie apocalypse, my weapon of choice would be an AR15 or AK47, there is so many trillion of rounds around the country.
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10/22 for the lolz and never ending ammo supply.
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You are forgetting round availability Baska. If I was to be in a zombie apocalypse, my weapon of choice would be an AR15 or AK47, there is so many trillion of rounds around the country.
But can you find the guns?
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You are forgetting round availability Baska. If I was to be in a zombie apocalypse, my weapon of choice would be an AR15 or AK47, there is so many trillion of rounds around the country.
But can you find the guns?
Yes. And it helps being a sport shooter aswel
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10/22 for the lolz and never ending ammo supply.
Yes.
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You are forgetting round availability Baska. If I was to be in a zombie apocalypse, my weapon of choice would be an AR15 or AK47, there is so many trillion of rounds around the country.
But can you find the guns?
Yes. And it helps being a sport shooter aswel
But most of us aren't. Pistols high recoil in a small gun makes the firearm unstable in non-firm and untrained hands. And besides, the accuracy is the key in survival. It's no use to train yourself to use a firearm what requires training to use it well when you can use more suitable weapons. I'm not saying anything against using the AK47, it would be a great weapon. But finding a one isn't as easy as in the movies or Left 4 Dead. Thing is, I live in Finland, and although you could find firearms easily, I don't think I'll come across an assault rifle so easily. It either has no ammo to be a keeper or it's broken.
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You are forgetting round availability Baska. If I was to be in a zombie apocalypse, my weapon of choice would be an AR15 or AK47, there is so many trillion of rounds around the country.
But can you find the guns?
Yes. And it helps being a sport shooter aswel
But most of us aren't. Pistols high recoil in a small gun makes the firearm unstable in non-firm and untrained hands. And besides, the accuracy is the key in survival. It's no use to train yourself to use a firearm what requires training to use it well when you can use more suitable weapons. I'm not saying anything against using the AK47, it would be a great weapon. But finding a one isn't as easy as in the movies or Left 4 Dead. Thing is, I live in Finland, and although you could find firearms easily, I don't think I'll come across an assault rifle so easily. It either has no ammo to be a keeper or it's broken.
Done your military service yet?
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January 2014 - Armor Brigade
We're gettin' close ;)
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When an outbreak like this happens, the army gets mobilized. You will come across an assault rifle eventually. Also automatic fire is highly overrated. An AK on semi automatic with good sights, is an AK that can deliver 30 headshots.
The only automatic firearm i would trust, would be a sub machine guns. But even then it is wise to go semi-automatic only.
January 2014 - Armor Brigade
We're gettin' close ;)
I say good luck sir! I envy you!
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January 2014 - Armor Brigade
We're gettin' close ;)
I say good luck sir! I envy you!
Luck is all I need. Thanks.
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And as soon as you start shooting, you alert everyone and everything in a several hundred meters radius of your presence, be it enemy looters, zombies or whatever.
IMHO the best thing would be a pollaxe:
(http://www.grey-tower.net/GTWarders/images/pollaxe.jpg)
Gives you enough reach so you ca fight them Zombies from a greater range, plus the combination of hammer and axe give you a good brain-smashin´ability.
For close range´s I´d use a mace or trench club. Blunt weapons seem to be the perfect tools for cracking skulls and taking out those nasty brain-eatin´ zombies.
BaskaBommi, for the army you don´t need luck. All you need is the ability to make yourself as small as possible, so your DIs don´t notice you. ;)
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Firing a gun is like riding a bicycle, you never forget. You might be a bit rusty at first, but it'll all come back to ya. Since hundreds of thousands of Finns know how to shoot, basically any weapon is good enough for zombie use. Plus we have weapon caches filled with millions of RK and AK variants, so when the FDF mobilizes for a catastrophe of this kind, these weapons would flood the country.
/Edit: @homer_jay: That, and if you don't want to be noticed, the ability to always be the average. Not the best, not the worst. Always somewhere in the middle, always unnoticed. That's the best way to avoid getting punished or getting promoted aka receiving more forced responsibility. Personally, I did my best because I enjoyed it. Sometimes you still need to remember the rule of being average, though, as in the case of mike papa november.
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And as soon as you start shooting, you alert everyone and everything in a several hundred meters radius of your presence, be it enemy looters, zombies or whatever.
IMHO the best thing would be a pollaxe:
(http://www.grey-tower.net/GTWarders/images/pollaxe.jpg)
Gives you enough reach so you ca fight them Zombies from a greater range, plus the combination of hammer and axe give you a good brain-smashin´ability.
For close range´s I´d use a mace or trench club. Blunt weapons seem to be the perfect tools for cracking skulls and taking out those nasty brain-eatin´ zombies.
BaskaBommi, for the army you don´t need luck. All you need is the ability to make yourself as small as possible, so your DIs don´t notice you. ;)
For the Ax: (http://www.miataturbo.net/attachments/diy-turbo-discussion-14/50523-doc-race-ebay-manifold-looks-legit-someone-buy-1540837-are_you_a_wizard_large-jpeg?dateline=1343400284)
For the Army: Luck+Physical fitness/ (3^2*Location-time^overall shitty feeling+doushiness of DI)= How small are you in the army
For example 0.8+0.6/(9*1917-4^2+8)=0,8 in percents, its 80% invisibility (Pretty good)
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PRIMARY Remington 700 for long range/Mini-14 w/red dot sight CQB
SIDEARM M1911/Glock/Springfield Armory. Something of those.
MELEE Crowbar, Gordon Freeman style. Realistically, a bokken. Those things hit hard, despite only being training katanas.
My house happens to have most of these things except a viable melee weapon, which I need when I run out of ammo. I will open up any holes in the walls to use them as firing ports. I'm not exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer. Survive off crackers, oreos, whatever. Eat the things that go bad fast first, and stay off any pig unless you can cook it (most wild hogs and such have disease, and a pig can too if you don't heat it away). Try to conserve strength and food 'till the zeds have died off or all been disabled, or possibly killed by people who think it's brilliant to go Rambo.
I figure any zombie apocolypse will end as fast as it started since there are so many things going against them. Gotta kill'em though if they do survive, since eventually they'll all be killed off. No feelings, no remorse, no sorrow for those infected. Gotta be a cold blooded killer to survive. Trust no one, but respect anyone still uninfected. Thieves will be rampant, as shown in DayZ. You really will be killed for your beans!
As long as you don't piss off the remaining survivors (suppose you're one of said survivors), and can make friends, you may be able to survive. Never get too friendly.
Realistically speaking though, if you have a weak immune system, your body will get squashed by whatever is causing said zombie apocolypse. So many things can go wrong on any side. Murphy's law.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md6Dvxdr0AQ&feature=related
World war Z trailer
World war Z fanboys are hating because it does not follow the book (the book covers various accounts and dairies of various people)
But its a zombie movie. it has a 150 million dollar budget. Im sold!
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I´m sceptical about it. I fear that it´ll end up like "Starship Troopers", where the movie has almost nothing to do with the book....IMHO a mini series format like BoB or even splitting the movie into three parts would´ve worked better with WWZ. The book is really, really good and it´d be a bloody shame if they´d turn it into some random Zombie movie.
Will probably watch it anyways, since the trailer looks okay for a Zombie movie, despite some wierd CGI effects.
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But its a zombie movie. it has a 150 million dollar budget. Im sold!
Seems a bit low.
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But its a zombie movie. it has a 150 million dollar budget. Im sold!
Seems a bit low.
its 150-200 million dollars i read now. Thats alot
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its 150-200 million dollars i read now. Thats alot
That's much better
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md6Dvxdr0AQ&feature=related
World war Z trailer
World war Z fanboys are hating because it does not follow the book (the book covers various accounts and dairies of various people)
But its a zombie movie. it has a 150 million dollar budget. Im sold!
Running zombies? Well that's bullshit.
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Those are not zombies, those are "infected" (L4D etc.) and those are "historically inaccurate" to WWZ IIRC.
Zombies=slow, the end. Besides slow zombies are better anyway.
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Doesnt matter to me. There are so few big budget zombie movies and if they wanna make a trilogy of this, im okay with it
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Zombies=slow, the end. Besides slow zombies are better anyway.
I agree. Trailer looks cool enough, but what's up with that cgi? It looked like even the running masses were cgi... :-\
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I really reccomend 28 days later. Great zombie movie.
-low budget of 5 million pounds, but it really doesnt show
-its british, not hollywood. This movie has alot of charme
-The infected are Crazy fuckers that are really scary
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The zombie Survival guide has arrived today ;D ;D
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c2/Zombiesurvivalguide.jpg/180px-Zombiesurvivalguide.jpg)
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The zombie Survival guide has arrived today ;D ;D
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c2/Zombiesurvivalguide.jpg/180px-Zombiesurvivalguide.jpg)
This is a pretty old book. I read it in 2011 and it was pretty Amuricun. But not bad othervise. I really liked Zombie Cases-part.
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just an other action film.
i go for 28 days later