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Re: Shermans
« Reply #75 on: 03-11-2009, 23:11:11 »
Well thats what the russians have atm. The BMPT. exept for the armor, it has the most meanist Anti personell equipment of all ground vehicle's.


T-90's are very well armoured and protected. But they to, will have difficulties fighting back. This is what the BMPT can do for it.
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Re: Shermans
« Reply #76 on: 04-11-2009, 22:11:02 »
Huh, i thought the BMPT had better protection than a MBT or equal. because of active and passive countersystems and additional armour because it lacks a turret.

btw, i have a question to all the armor nerds on here.
The t-34 is often hyped because it is supposed to be the first tank to deploy sloped armour.
But now, as many tank-nerds know from games like Fh and Red Orchestra, we know that with additional Range, the shell will drop down, and i can imagine that with that special drop the shell will hit perfectly 90° on the sloped surface, making it useless or even counterproductive.
anyone got tips on this?
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Re: Shermans
« Reply #77 on: 04-11-2009, 23:11:17 »
Only artillery would have this advantage i think becouse if your tankrounds are comming down on a 30° angle you are shooting waaaay over your effective range and i doubd that any optics of the time were usefull in such a situation.

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Re: Shermans
« Reply #78 on: 05-11-2009, 08:11:26 »
Furthermore, if the AP projectile is fired at a high angle it would have lost a lot of energy when it hits the target. Sloped armor pwns box armor.

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Re: Shermans
« Reply #79 on: 05-11-2009, 08:11:35 »
Furthermore, if the AP projectile is fired at a high angle it would have lost a lot of energy when it hits the target. Sloped armor pwns box armor.

Shermans still are easy target for pak, 88 guns and the rest of the german tanks. Nothing more satisfying that seeing that green tank goes black in pieces when pierced with a 8.8 round.
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Re: Shermans
« Reply #80 on: 05-11-2009, 09:11:07 »
Well try that in North Africa. Should have more satisfaction doing that to "queen" Matilda. I so hate that tank with such snobbish early war reputation.

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Re: Shermans
« Reply #81 on: 05-11-2009, 09:11:06 »
Wait for the KV2 Mate ;)


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Re: Shermans
« Reply #82 on: 05-11-2009, 09:11:48 »
Wait for the KV2 Mate ;)

Nu-uh...I'll wait for a Jagdpanther, leave the KV2 in pieces.

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Re: Shermans
« Reply #83 on: 05-11-2009, 13:11:59 »
Heard about the KV2 that survived 12 88mm hits + various other AT rounds?


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Re: Shermans
« Reply #84 on: 05-11-2009, 13:11:42 »
*Cough* IS-2 *cough*

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Re: Shermans
« Reply #85 on: 05-11-2009, 13:11:22 »
screw you guys, FIAT ownz you ALL

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Re: Shermans
« Reply #86 on: 05-11-2009, 14:11:03 »
Hetzer... deadly little machine, I want!

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Re: Shermans
« Reply #87 on: 06-11-2009, 00:11:51 »
Hetzer... deadly little machine, I want!

Yes...Hetzer, one very efficient little killer.

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Re: Shermans
« Reply #88 on: 07-11-2009, 13:11:53 »
Furthermore, if the AP projectile is fired at a high angle it would have lost a lot of energy when it hits the target. Sloped armor pwns box armor.


I am interested in that, care to give a rigorous mathematical explaination...?

I would understand if the projectile would lost stability but energy? of course, if not regarding friction gravity field is practically a conservative field
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Re: Shermans
« Reply #89 on: 07-11-2009, 14:11:11 »
Furthermore, if the AP projectile is fired at a high angle it would have lost a lot of energy when it hits the target. Sloped armor pwns box armor.


I am interested in that, care to give a rigorous mathematical explaination...?

I would understand if the projectile would lost stability but energy? of course, if not regarding friction gravity field is practically a conservative field

Basically, if the projectile strikes the sloped armour at 90 degress it means that it has travelled a very very long distance, since cannons have a flat trajectory (unlike howitzers). The longer the distance the less energy the projectile carries. Disregarding friction is quite pointless since tank wars aren't fought in space (yet).  ;)