Quote from: von.small on 24-09-2009, 14:09:59Quote from: NuclearHendrix on 24-09-2009, 13:09:15Quit making excuses for the Germans...Patton fought in North Africa, Sicily AND France, and he beat the hell out of the Germans in all three places(hence, why he was so feared by them).I'm no WW2 nut like these fellas, but I know a lot, and that statement alone is BS. The Germans we already defeated when rolled into North Africa, and the first meeting between Germany US as I recall the US got whooped with gun-ho tactics at Kasserine despite being advised by the British not to do so.Patton took command after Kasserine Pass. The reason the Americans had such a bad time was poor or obsolete equipment, lack of experience and poor commanding. They were thrown in at the deep end, so I suppose you can't blame them.
Quote from: NuclearHendrix on 24-09-2009, 13:09:15Quit making excuses for the Germans...Patton fought in North Africa, Sicily AND France, and he beat the hell out of the Germans in all three places(hence, why he was so feared by them).I'm no WW2 nut like these fellas, but I know a lot, and that statement alone is BS. The Germans we already defeated when rolled into North Africa, and the first meeting between Germany US as I recall the US got whooped with gun-ho tactics at Kasserine despite being advised by the British not to do so.
Quit making excuses for the Germans...Patton fought in North Africa, Sicily AND France, and he beat the hell out of the Germans in all three places(hence, why he was so feared by them).
and on all three places IIRC the german army was allready weakened as hell. i agree with Mudra.just look at the german technology, it is Supperior. Ammo, Training, Weapons, Vehicles. with the exeption of air vehicles. An complete german army would annihilated the guy and driven the allies back to the sea. Ofcourse it is Good that the allies won. no nazi supporting. just fact.
Quote from: NoCoolOnesLeft on 24-09-2009, 17:09:22Quote from: von.small on 24-09-2009, 14:09:59Quote from: NuclearHendrix on 24-09-2009, 13:09:15Quit making excuses for the Germans...Patton fought in North Africa, Sicily AND France, and he beat the hell out of the Germans in all three places(hence, why he was so feared by them).I'm no WW2 nut like these fellas, but I know a lot, and that statement alone is BS. The Germans we already defeated when rolled into North Africa, and the first meeting between Germany US as I recall the US got whooped with gun-ho tactics at Kasserine despite being advised by the British not to do so.Patton took command after Kasserine Pass. The reason the Americans had such a bad time was poor or obsolete equipment, lack of experience and poor commanding. They were thrown in at the deep end, so I suppose you can't blame them."poor commanding", and patton was in command. So yeah, perhaps you can't blame the soliders, but you can blame patton.
Quote from: Tedacious on 24-09-2009, 17:09:42Quote from: NoCoolOnesLeft on 24-09-2009, 17:09:22Quote from: von.small on 24-09-2009, 14:09:59Quote from: NuclearHendrix on 24-09-2009, 13:09:15Quit making excuses for the Germans...Patton fought in North Africa, Sicily AND France, and he beat the hell out of the Germans in all three places(hence, why he was so feared by them).I'm no WW2 nut like these fellas, but I know a lot, and that statement alone is BS. The Germans we already defeated when rolled into North Africa, and the first meeting between Germany US as I recall the US got whooped with gun-ho tactics at Kasserine despite being advised by the British not to do so.Patton took command after Kasserine Pass. The reason the Americans had such a bad time was poor or obsolete equipment, lack of experience and poor commanding. They were thrown in at the deep end, so I suppose you can't blame them."poor commanding", and patton was in command. So yeah, perhaps you can't blame the soliders, but you can blame patton.He also said Patton took command AFTER Kasserine pass
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