Deaths as Israeli forces storm Gaza aid ship

[Pascucci the Whiner]

Shit, that don't should have been a do and I meant to take the UK comment out that was for a different discussion, that was loaded with fail :/  . Anyways, I also think, the USA, Mexico, Canada, every country in South America, every country in Africa, Russia, China, Japan, all of Europe, India, every other country in Asia, Australia, every small Island nation on the planet, and the rest of Humanity all suck, trust me I hate more people every day and lost all faith in humanity.

[MaJ.P.Bouras]

Shit, that don't should have been a do and I meant to take the UK comment out that was for a different discussion, that was loaded with fail :/  . Anyways, I also think, the USA, Mexico, Canada, every country in South America, every country in Africa, Russia, China, Japan, all of Europe, India, every other country in Asia, Australia, every small Island nation on the planet, and the rest of Humanity all suck, trust me I hate more people every day and lost all faith in humanity.

So you will either become emo and kill yourself or you will become president of the USA .

[Pascucci the Whiner]

OK, you know what, I just looked through my posts again and I think I overdid it. I'm really sorry, sometimes I just get mad. I play online with a lot of Euros and many of them are awesome. From now on I'll just post my opinion then leave. I guess I just need to calm down, I used to be pleasant, but now I'm devolving into an insulting troll, making huge assumptions with my limited knowledge of the facts. I guess I just need to calm down, I'm just bored, my family has less money every day and I've just been a little upset lately and I guess I was just taking it out on everybody. I'm sick of everyone killing each other all over the world though, it's constant and un-ending. I guess it's a little late to hope for you guys to forgive me for going over the edge, but I'd like to be able to play FH2 again without being afraid of getting insulted.


Sorry,
Arisaka

[[WDW]Megaraptor]

Vague responses in an attempt to discredit actual events and myself. I came to this. (Not trolling).

Allow me to deconstruct your map:

First map, lots of the green areas were desert where no one lived.

Second map, this was merely a hypothetical UN plan which never entered into force.

Third map, from 1949-1967 the West Bank was under Jordanian military occupation and Gaza was under Egyptian occupation. There was no such thing as "Palestinian Land" at this time.

Fourth map, plenty of Palestinians live in the white areas on the West Bank. The green areas transferred to Palestinian control in the Oslo Accords actually show an INCREASE in Palestinian controlled land from nothing to the areas that you see on the map.

[Oddball]

Vague responses in an attempt to discredit actual events and myself. I came to this. (Not trolling).

Allow me to deconstruct your map:

First map, lots of the green areas were desert where no one lived.

Second map, this was merely a hypothetical UN plan which never entered into force.

Third map, from 1949-1967 the West Bank was under Jordanian military occupation and Gaza was under Egyptian occupation. There was no such thing as "Palestinian Land" at this time.

Fourth map, plenty of Palestinians live in the white areas on the West Bank. The green areas transferred to Palestinian control in the Oslo Accords actually show an INCREASE in Palestinian controlled land from nothing to the areas that you see on the map.

I knew that map didn't look right...I'll try to find a more accurate map.

[Jobabb Jobabbsen]

so what are you saying, that its actually the palestinians who have stolen land from israel ?
 
No other country have recognized israels claim to these lands ever. Its clearly not israeli lands.

[THeTA0123]

Dont blame the isreali's, the UN gave them that land

[[WDW]Megaraptor]

so what are you saying, that its actually the palestinians who have stolen land from israel ?
 
No other country have recognized israels claim to these lands ever. Its clearly not israeli lands.

Reality is much more complicated than the "bla bla they stole our land" propaganda.

[Oddball]

so what are you saying, that its actually the palestinians who have stolen land from israel ?
 
No other country have recognized israels claim to these lands ever. Its clearly not israeli lands.

I'm saying that no one stole land. Israel was rightfully given that land, which could be theirs traced back thousands of years... but anyways that's not important atm. Now we are dealing with modern times and if the palestinians would stop attacking Israel and stop starting wars with Israel, they wouldn't be losing land now would they? It's their hate that is causing their own misfortune. Like brought up earlier, Israel offered the palestinians the Partition Plan would would generously divide the land amoungst them, but they declined because they wanted all the land and continued to attack Israel, losing more land, the Israels gave it back before, but they just don't quit and they lost it again, when will they learn? Now they are just going to go cry to whoever will sympathize with them until they get thier land back, and when they do.... start new shit with Israel.

[[WDW]Megaraptor]

Not only that but the land that could have become a Palestinian state in 1948 was instead invaded and occupied by Jordan and Egypt, who then proceeded to use Palestinians as pawns in their struggle against Israel while pretending to care about them.

[Jobabb Jobabbsen]

so what are you saying, that its actually the palestinians who have stolen land from israel ?
 
No other country have recognized israels claim to these lands ever. Its clearly not israeli lands.

Reality is much more complicated than the "bla bla they stole our land" propaganda.

Is it more complicated than what?  Youre trying to say that you disagree with that propaganda, and rather believe in the Israeli propaganda? 

So you say Jordan and Egypt occupied Palestine as their struggle againt Israel. I dont see any relevance to this case. That mean the palestinians should be occupied and killed now too?

Oddball say now its modern times. You really think the palestinians care about that? If someone come and take your land and kill members of your family, would you think it was perfectly ok just because they say its modern times now? Like germany in 1944 suddenly said " Hey guys, youre not allowed to try to take back your country cause now it suddenly became modern times, your struggle lay in the past, now were modern so stfu"  The rest youre saying is too one-sided to answer. Its all the palestinians fault, and its only they who make trouble in the region... sure man.
   Aswell, weres the logic in taking their land if they make trouble? Particulary when the reason they make trouble is that they want more land. Many nations have made trouble later around in the world, but i dont think ive seen cases where the offended nation occupy their lands and start to live there with the trouble-makers. Like Iraq, Serbia, Afganistan or wherever, the good-guys (americans & co) only occupy the country to get rid of the enemy army, they dont steal land for themselves to live.
 
   Internet have alot of maps showing step by step how much land Israel have taken from the palestinians, i dont see any reason to argue. Its 100% obvious who stolen from who. They blame eachother for all kinds of stuff, no one really knows who has right. But one thing thats a fact is that land have been occupied. Its no excuse , even of you think the guys you occupy are assholes. Then simply just get away from their land if theyre so very bad.

[[WDW]Megaraptor]

Oddball say now its modern times. You really think the palestinians care about that? If someone come and take your land and kill members of your family, would you think it was perfectly ok just because they say its modern times now?

As I asked earlier in this thread, at what point do you just give up trying to reclaim land lost 62 years ago?

[Jobabb Jobabbsen]

You stop trying to reclaim it the time you explode from the exploding belt around your stomach... Well i talk about the lands step by step beeing taken from the palestinians after 1948

[Mr.Deceptive]

Dont blame the isreali's, the UN gave them that land

Because the U.N is uncorrupted and run by saints.

[Oddball]

Dont blame the isreali's, the UN gave them that land

Because the U.N is uncorrupted and run by saints.

The members of the U.N. has changed since the 40's...