Dnarag, are you high or just incredibly stupid?
Don't victimise and dont mystify Islam and muslims, they think in the same categories as we do - we want to live peacefully, and they do. we want to prosper, and they do, simple. If a military starts shooting at a peaceful demonstration in Havana, Santiago, Belfast or Gaza, or Fallujah the response will always be the same - clandestine non state para military operation - terrorism.
add to that if you wiped out half of their families, destroyed their homes, so the other half of families have to stay i rubble or temporary shelters, no water, electrician, medicine and so forth.
Russians in WW2 were willing to die, because they had nothing else to loose and they were not muslims.
People more often go Postal in the Western world than suicidal in the Middle east, seriously, shoot-outs at schools, workplaces, towns and so on, and you say muslims have that special trait to be keen to suicide? cmon. Deathwish is a natural trait to every human of any origin in the world, you just have to keep pissing him off very much!
Glad to see that you have no counter arguments to defend your previous statement. Would have been nice if you just kept on the topic, but you seem to want to pull the discussion into irrelevant area's again.
I do not refer anywhere to large groups of people (and/or muslims) being more suicidal than others. I said that of particular people on this particular ship there are videos of victims (hurt but alive) that said on Turkish tv that they would want to go back and become martyrs anytime again.
You seem to have great problems with accepting facts, and keep ignoring things that do not fit your picture of the world. When you respond to my messages you present examples that are simply untrue (such as the captured brits in Iran), although I lean towards thinking you are not lying but just merely ignorant or poorly informed.
It seems that even my nicely on-topic, very neutral response (where I keep saying that I don't like Israel one bit, but that in THIS particular event I see that the 'peaceful' people on the aid-ship were the ones provoking the actions _and_ deliberately trying to get it to a combat situation) only sollicited a rant about stuff you seem to be very frustrated about, rather than trying to analyse the situation.
I'm certainly not going to waste more time on you, unless you can take of the blindfold and start to discuss facts, not assumptions and clearly politicized opinions.
Thanks.
p.s. maybe you should also take some time (regarding your points where you say the Islam is a pacifist movement....) to dig into the Qur'an and Hadith. They show many highly violent texts that cannot be mis interpreted and that are held in high esteem in the current muslim world. Especially the growing salafism and wahabism show the darker side of the Islam very nicely.
