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Forgotten Hope 2 => Tactics & Tutorials => Topic started by: Steel_Lion_FIN on 16-03-2010, 20:03:46

Title: Flak 88
Post by: Steel_Lion_FIN on 16-03-2010, 20:03:46
What is the purpose of 88mm Time Fuse HE round? And how you use it? How does it work? Does it always blow up at certain distance or does it have some sort of proximity detonator?
Title: Re: Flak 88
Post by: Eat Uranium on 16-03-2010, 20:03:50
The time fuse ammo is for use against aeroplanes.  I personally am no good with it because I have never got the lead right, but if you can master that, it is a one shot kill to any plane afaik.
Title: Re: Flak 88
Post by: THeTA0123 on 16-03-2010, 20:03:19
it  basicly works like proximity

Some are good with it, some cant even land one shot
Title: Re: Flak 88
Post by: matthewfarenheit on 16-03-2010, 21:03:08
it  basicly works like proximity

Some are good with it, some cant even land one shot
BUT does it work exploding on proximity? or it always explodes at the same set distance regardless of the target position?
Title: Re: Flak 88
Post by: VonMudra on 16-03-2010, 21:03:53
It explodes on proximity, like we have said.
Title: Re: Flak 88
Post by: Slayer on 16-03-2010, 22:03:37
Lead the plane roughly one plane-length, unless it is coming head on. Hit, kill.
Title: Re: Flak 88
Post by: hslan.totaler_humbug on 16-03-2010, 23:03:37
Also good to rape the FJR6-Position as American on PHL  8)
Title: Re: Flak 88
Post by: Excavus on 17-03-2010, 01:03:46
Time Fuse Shell = awesome on Totalize. It's very easy to shoot down incoming British planes with it.
Title: Re: Flak 88
Post by: roberto2 on 17-03-2010, 16:03:55
em guy's easy say.
its a AA HE round
its good VS PLANES and use it only for PLANES
for INF use standerd HE and tanks AT rounds.
Title: Re: Flak 88
Post by: THeTA0123 on 17-03-2010, 16:03:47
Who says that?

I once even shot down a FW190 with 88 AP ammo!
Title: Re: Flak 88
Post by: Strat_84 on 17-03-2010, 16:03:51
HaxXX  8)
Title: Re: Flak 88
Post by: therenas on 17-03-2010, 16:03:52
Time fuse HE are awesome against planes... with some practise you get a hang of how to lead your aim... the bullets are very fast, so no great lead required... its like shooting with the Bofors... just long reload... but one shot kill... and yeah it is great fun to use as most pilots do not expect the 88 to be actually used for AA... but once they know you become target number one...
Title: Re: Flak 88
Post by: Kelmola on 17-03-2010, 16:03:16
Planes die horribly even if you score a direct hit with HE ::) Of course, with proximity fuse you don't need a direct hit, which makes hitting them easier. :P
Title: Re: Flak 88
Post by: roberto2 on 17-03-2010, 18:03:30
whats scary is
if the enemy plane fly to you and you see it the last 10 secs
and you shot him at point blank in his PLANE ASS FACE and he shoots you and you die and he die
or if you shot and mis and then die ;D
Title: Re: Flak 88
Post by: Mud Buddha on 18-03-2010, 14:03:42
Haha, I was getting quite good with shooting planes down with AT rounds in Totalize, and only recently found out what the timefuse was for. But didn't really know how to use it. Thankx for this thread.  :)

But why is it called timefuse round when it's a proximity round? I tried to use it before but thought it was something like an arty round that had a delayed timer or something. Never had any success with it, so never got into it.
Heard about proximity rounds in a History Channel doc on Kamikaze weapons just last week.
Title: Re: Flak 88
Post by: Eat Uranium on 18-03-2010, 14:03:46
Its called time fuse because in real life, the AA shells had variable time fuses to allow targeting of different altitudes.  Proximity fuses only arrived at the end of the war and only for the allies.  They were mostly used at sea where the risk of the small proximety radars falling into enemy hands via a dud shell were low.

In game they are proximety based for the simple reason that it best represents the ability of the gun crew to change the fuse time (something impossible to do easily ingame).
Title: Re: Flak 88
Post by: Die Happy on 18-03-2010, 14:03:29
they are called time fused because the crew of the gun measured the hight and speed of the target aircraft and then set a timer on the round. when the time was up the round explodes. if aimed and measured correctly the plane will fly into the explosion.

much greater "hitting" chance then trying to score a direct hit.

since we cant have measure and time setting ingame  (besides the gamers  guess work) it gets a proximity fuse.  you still have to aim well though.
Title: Re: Flak 88
Post by: Mud Buddha on 18-03-2010, 16:03:46
Thanks. Seems logical after reading your replies, but I didn't made any sense at first. :)
Title: Re: Flak 88
Post by: Kelmola on 18-03-2010, 20:03:15
Since it's now technically a proximity detonator, the next question is: could it be used to fire "airbursts" eg. against infantry in trenches? That when the shell reaches a set distance of whatever - bird, plane, Superman, Earth, Krypton - it will detonate?
Title: Re: Flak 88
Post by: Ionizer on 18-03-2010, 20:03:22
Since it's now technically a proximity detonator, the next question is: could it be used to fire "airbursts" eg. against infantry in trenches? That when the shell reaches a set distance of whatever - bird, plane, Superman, Earth, Krypton - it will detonate?

Kinda.  Bofors also works on a proximity fuse, part of the reason the ones on Siege of Tobruk are positioned where they are is prevent one person from raping everything around them.  For the record, the bofors is also Time-fused: if the projectile doesn't proxy-detonate or hit something solid, it will still explode a predetermined range (which good pilots can exploit by flying just out of range of the time fuse).
Title: Re: Flak 88
Post by: Kelmola on 18-03-2010, 21:03:05
For the record, the Bofors is also Time-fused: if the projectile doesn't proxy-detonate or hit something solid, it will still explode a predetermined range (which good pilots can exploit by flying just out of range of the time fuse).
Yes, I have noticed that, since 95% of the time on Crete Ju-52's will fly above that range. (The 5% that do not are either trying wave-skipping low-level penetration, or are n00bs flying suicidally straight and level at a medium altitude.)
Title: Re: Flak 88
Post by: ajappat on 19-03-2010, 00:03:23
For the record, the Bofors is also Time-fused: if the projectile doesn't proxy-detonate or hit something solid, it will still explode a predetermined range (which good pilots can exploit by flying just out of range of the time fuse).
Yes, I have noticed that, since 95% of the time on Crete Ju-52's will fly above that range. (The 5% that do not are either trying wave-skipping low-level penetration, or are n00bs flying suicidally straight and level at a medium altitude.)
Usually it feels other way around. 95% some idiot flies straight to airfield and gets blown up by million bofors shots. Rarely I'm passenger and someone actually succeeds on landing or flying behind enemy lines. Personally I usually just land on far east part of map.