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Offline NoxNoctum

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How does this game compare to Red Orchestra?
« on: 03-05-2009, 13:05:21 »
I'm just wondering cause I'm a HUGEEEE fan of Red Orchestra, easily the best multiplayer shooter I've ever played.

Just recently I bought BF2 specifically to play PR which I've been enjoying immensely.

I'm just wondering how FH2 compares to RO since, to my knowledge, BF2 does not support realistic ballistics which is one of the major reasons RO kicks so much ass. (this is PR's major flaw, though they do simulate it with weapon deviation--- but PR still rocks due to the insane teamplay even on Pubs)
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Re: How does this game compare to Red Orchestra?
« Reply #1 on: 03-05-2009, 13:05:44 »
Can't really compare the two, FH is way faster, movement is very different, and of course engine limitations prevent leaning, resting the weapon and so on.

Nevertheless, it's also great fun, but don't expect Red Orchestra gameplay.

btw., tried Darkest Hour yet? www.darkesthourgame.com

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Re: How does this game compare to Red Orchestra?
« Reply #2 on: 03-05-2009, 13:05:12 »
Yep, love Darkest Hour. The Bulge maps are fantastic.

Can't wait for the new update.

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Re: How does this game compare to Red Orchestra?
« Reply #3 on: 03-05-2009, 13:05:39 »
try it! its free! ;D


I played RO since the UT2004 Mod times and i allways enjoyed it. its a great game. it have some advandages against BF2 like the Tank combat differnt sights etc. also a great feature is to cook handgrenates and dead nades and of course the laying weapons on statics is also nice but still i think Forgotten hope is more Fun! its bigger, looks better and you can use all vehicles including Planes.

but as i said Download it and install. give it a few hours time to learn it and you will forget PR :P and RO:O ;D

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Re: How does this game compare to Red Orchestra?
« Reply #4 on: 03-05-2009, 14:05:59 »
Yep, love Darkest Hour. The Bulge maps are fantastic.

Can't wait for the new update.

Indeed, the new suppression system is going to rock... and bring the efficiency of the MGs up to their real life counterparts.

Not to forget the King Tiger.  ;)

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Re: How does this game compare to Red Orchestra?
« Reply #5 on: 03-05-2009, 14:05:17 »
Plus FH2 is way nicer to look at. It's like meeting someone in real life. Red Orchestra is a very nice person with alot of talents who knows everything about realism but his face is ugly. Forgotten Hope 2 is that nice guy who knows alot but got a handicap (engine) restricting him from ultimate realism so he just aims at realism/accuracy and he is very handsome.

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Re: How does this game compare to Red Orchestra?
« Reply #6 on: 03-05-2009, 14:05:11 »
You'll get addicted soon to FH2 Infantery combat  :D


Tank warfare is a bit diffrent compared to PR. One man can still drive a tank. Shell lobbing varies on vehicles, but is pretty accurate

You will need to learn a few lessons, like, never challenge a Panzer III directly with a crusader tank.

And watch out when u use Gebalte ladungs and sticky bombs!(Those who remeber me playing operation hyacient , Might knew what happend here........5 Squadmembers TK ftw!!!)
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Re: How does this game compare to Red Orchestra?
« Reply #7 on: 03-05-2009, 16:05:43 »
FH1/2 and RO have been the two mods I've played most, having played FH1 and 2 since the first version and RO since version 1.2 (when it was a UT2003 mod). And drawing on this I can firmly say vehicle combat is more fun in FH2, whereas infantry combat in RO beats FH2. Further I'd state that RO is based on a better engine, allowing for a much more refined experience. FH2 is limited more by engine limitations making it a little rougher around the edges. The engine limitations also curb some of the realism in FH2, pushing it more towards a faster more hectic pace perhaps.

They both have strengths and weaknesses, and really compliment each other nicely due to that. But I suppose when it comes down to it, I'd say FH is the one I play most for one simple fact... it just has more to do in it! RO is nicely made, and has a lot of replay value... but it's still all eastern front and mostly infantry based. Whereas FH1 (and soon FH2) present you with multiple theatres of combat, and much more choice within those theatres (air, land vehicles, infantry, ships etc..).
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Re: How does this game compare to Red Orchestra?
« Reply #8 on: 03-05-2009, 20:05:23 »
I have played RO alot, it's cool, but quite stiff.

Now I pretty much just play FH2 when I want to play a first person shooter.

It might not have that realistic look to it but it's alot less stiff, so in the end, who knows which one is the most realistic, and fun ofcourse.

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Re: How does this game compare to Red Orchestra?
« Reply #9 on: 04-05-2009, 03:05:30 »
FH1 definitely has realistic ballistics on everything, while I am pretty sure FH2 does too. (never played it, but BF2 and BF1942 use same physics engine and I remember posts and vids talking about ballistics.)

And as for FH1's maps:

I have over 200, and I haven't gotten TDP's new pack yet. 'nuf said. And just go here to get a feel for the variety in vehicles they have. This variety extends across the board. Here are all the vehicles, and all the maps.
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Re: How does this game compare to Red Orchestra?
« Reply #10 on: 04-05-2009, 09:05:04 »
I'm just wondering how FH2 compares to RO since, to my knowledge, BF2 does not support realistic ballistics which is one of the major reasons RO kicks so much ass.
what do you mean by "realistic ballistics"
FH2 (and i m pretty sure PR) both have bullets/shell ballistics. the projectiles falls over distances and needs time to reach the target, there are not "hit-scan" weapons like in CS/DoD.

I often enjoy a round of RO now and then, the infantry combat has a lot of pretty features, leaning, resting weapons, working bolts, melee attack with almost any weapon, picking up individual weapons instead of whole kits to "customize" the weapons to your disposal.
Tank combat also has some great stuff, range finders on sights, ricocheting shells on angled armor ...

the things that make FH superior imo are the much lager variety of weapons and vehicles, nice graphics and the ability to do what you want. you dont have to have a ultra fast PC to be able to play sniper/tanker on maps. In PR the first ones to load the maps get to choose their class/weapon from the limited team load out and if it is gone you only can pick up the weapons or have to wait until the slots open some day.
FH can also be played alone as tanker, you dont need 2 people communicating with VOIP or the quite useful "numpad" commands. you can do it all on your own.
and there are airplanes :D
and mines
and artillery pieces
and mortars
and paks (although i think PR got some too lately)
and jeeps
and bikes
and, and, and ...

RO is a great game with many many great features but imo it lacks some variety in vehicles. RO is "more" realistic than FH but FH dosent want that kind of realism.

hope that helps :D
 
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Re: How does this game compare to Red Orchestra?
« Reply #11 on: 04-05-2009, 09:05:19 »
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How does this game compare to Red Orchestra?
It's more fun, better, nicer, better, has a lot more equipment, it's better, it's still developing so you see something new each half a year or so... should I say more? ;)

RO's only advantage IMO is the game engine, which allows more things (like barrel changing etc.)... but on the other hand has no planes ;)

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Re: How does this game compare to Red Orchestra?
« Reply #12 on: 04-05-2009, 11:05:24 »
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How does this game compare to Red Orchestra?
It's more fun, better, nicer, better, has a lot more equipment, it's better, it's still developing so you see something new each half a year or so... should I say more? ;)

RO's only advantage IMO is the game engine, which allows more things (like barrel changing etc.)... but on the other hand has no planes ;)

i prefer FH2 tank combat because you aren't like those one-man tanks in RO.

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Re: How does this game compare to Red Orchestra?
« Reply #13 on: 04-05-2009, 12:05:07 »
i prefer FH2 tank combat because you aren't like those one-man tanks in RO.

Hmmm? Tanks in RO are 2 man tanks. ;)
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Re: How does this game compare to Red Orchestra?
« Reply #14 on: 04-05-2009, 12:05:56 »
Yes they are N24 but 80% of the players 1-man the tanks in RO. Atleast in non-coordinated pubby servers.
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