The ULTIMATE NECRO-BUMP
Sorry but I didn't know where else to post this and not really sure in what context I wanted to post it in
If nobody really wants to necro bump this thread I can post it in another thread like general questions or something but this one seemed appropriate. (and I didn't want to start a new thread for something that just turned out to be a random thought that needed some clarity)
So after watching Zero Dark Thirty (I make a point to watch all Academy Award Winning Movies and don't want to start an argument about how awesome/shitty it is here) I wondered why in most scenes the American Flag on the uniforms was facing the wrong way (because I'm an uneducated military geek wanna-be
).
e.g.
After a quick google search I came across this.
Army Regulation 670-1, Wear and Appearance of Army Uniforms and Insignia, is the governing authority for the wear of Army uniforms. Paragraph 28-18 governs the wear of the United States Flag on Army Uniforms.
The flag may only be worn on the utility and organizational uniforms (such as the camouflage BDU). The flag may only be worn during joint-duty and multinational deployments. When the servicemember returns to home station, the flag must be removed. (Guide Note: A message went out in February 2004 changing this restriction, and making the U.S. Flag a mandatory uniform componant for all soldiers, effective October 1, 2005).
Chapter 1, Title 4, United States Code, provides for the design of the U.S. flag and specifies the colors as red, white, and blue. Colors other than red, white, and blue violate the U.S. Code; therefore, subdued-colored flags are not authorized for wear. Joint commanders have to make the decision as to whether or not the wear of a full-color flag, for morale purposes, is more important than having all aspects of the uniform camouflaged.
When approved for wear, the full-color U.S. flag cloth replica is sewn 1/2 inch below the right shoulder seam of the temperate, hot-weather, enhanced hot-weather, and desert BDU; the BDU field jacket; and the cold-weather uniform. The flag is worn on the right shoulder, because, in the military, the "place of honor" is to a military member's right.
The full-color U.S. flag cloth replica is worn so that the star field faces forward, or to the flag’s own right. When worn in this manner, the flag is facing to the observer’s right, and gives the effect of the flag flying in the breeze as the wearer moves forward.
The rule dates back to the Army's early history, when both mounted cavalry and infantry units would designate a standard bearer, who carried the Colors into battle. As he charged, his forward momentum caused the flag to stream back. Since the Stars and Stripes are mounted with the canton closest to the pole, that section stayed to the right, while the stripes flew to the left.
http://www.marlowwhite.com/faq/f-why-is-the-flag-patch-reversed.htmlSeems legit, and it's pretty interesting to a skinner who's into military uniforms, markings etc like me. Essentially the rule states that the stars should always be in a place of honor, and that place on a moving object, be it person or vehicle, is the upper right side of the flag when its being worn on the right side.
I then obviously went to my first historical military uniform (and church) simulator, FH2
to see if American Flags were displayed this way in their game.
The only vehicle currently plastered with an American Flag ingame is the M3A1 on Sidi Bou Zid
And as you can see it looks as if this post is the troll of troll suggestions
to have PointBlank go back and change his skin for one minor inaccuracy. But that's not what I'm trying to do
Instead I wanted to post this here because ik that this forum is teaming with WW2 historians who could tell me for real if this rule was practiced in WW2 or not (although it seems to have been around since 1776, or earlier)
Now alot of things can factor into how these things actually looked IRL, proper decals not being available, (although for Operation Torch I'm assuming they were all new) inability of units to put them on properly, etc..
Also I want to drive home the point that I'm in no way suggesting that this be changed immediately because it destroys my immersion and FH2 is a lie because of it [/rage]
I just found it to be a very interesting fact and a small possible oversight that could be discussed and clarified here. (and possibly resolved later if PointBlank still has the .psd and time to make such a small change)
