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Title: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 27-03-2012, 23:03:15
Series 2 starting soon, I guess we have use for a thread.


Game of Thrones is an epic fantasy television series by HBO. It is based on A Song of Ice And Fire, a series of books by the American author George R. R. Martin. The first series, based on the first book A Game of Thrones, aired last spring. The second series, based on the second book A Clash of Kings starts airing on April 1, 2012.

I'm a huge fan of the books, and I must say that the TV series comes pretty close in general awesomeness. It follows the story surprisingly well without any major alterations. And most of them are understandable; Hodor and Ser Gregor Clegane should be a good meter taller, Stark boys are two years older than in the book, adult direwolves should be the size of a small horse... But good job doing that without some kind of black magic. (Damn maegi from Asshai and such..!)

Here are the trailers I managed to find:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzVSchaagNg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOzXsqoJhtE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UV3RflsNxak
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X66PDW1Mjf8

I was rather disappointed by the lack of large battles in series 1, but it might change now. For George R. R. Martin himself wrote an episode concerning... a rather large battle... not to spoil anything, of course. He was worried how they could get all the money to film what he wrote. ;)

Apart from the thing mentioned above I'm looking forward to see few certain scenes with Tyrion, Brienne "The Beauty" of Tarth and of course Arry. Valar Morghulis and so forth.





Long story short: Game of Thrones. Series 2. HBO. Next Sunday.

And NO SPOILERS.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 27-03-2012, 23:03:48
Has the bloody winter come yet?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: RAnDOOm on 27-03-2012, 23:03:29
Ive read the books.

My very short comments.:  Season 1 was great, coulb it be better ? Offcourse.

Adapting several books into a movies/series is always complicated but i can say that they did a good job with the first season. Big action battles were expected but its a 1st season, every book adapted tv series needs to take a solid first step at the beginning at they did that.

Solid, firm and enjoyable. Everyone is eager for season two,

And so im I.   8)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Lightning on 27-03-2012, 23:03:55
By the way, I already read A Clash of Kings, so I thought I could freely watch the season 2 trailers, but apparently there are parts of A Storm of Swords in season 2, so spoilers be ware if you haven't read it yet, like me.

Almost exploding from anticipation though.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 28-03-2012, 00:03:21
By the way, I already read A Clash of Kings, so I thought I could freely watch the season 2 trailers, but apparently there are parts of A Storm of Swords in season 2, so spoilers be ware if you haven't read it yet, like me.

Really? Which scenes? It hasn't bee that long since I read ACoK and ASoS, but I didn't notice anything.

But, there actually was one scene from A Clash of Kings in the first series... :/

Edit: And come to IRC you slacker and we'll analyse the everloving shit out of this matter.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Fuchs on 28-03-2012, 00:03:03
Screw the winter, dragons are coming. All hail Daenerys Targaryen, the true ruler of Westeros!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Lightning on 28-03-2012, 00:03:01
Really? Which scenes? It hasn't bee that long since I read ACoK and ASoS, but I didn't notice anything.
I'll PM you.

Edit: And come to IRC you slacker and we'll analyse the everloving shit out of this matter.
Tomorrow, now is time for bed.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Moose on 28-03-2012, 03:03:27
Please no spoilers in the thread, I haven't read all the books yet. But I heard for the battle season 2, they had to call in all favors to do it. I did not mind season 1, how they just showed the end of the battle as a way to cut costs.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Schneider on 28-03-2012, 03:03:40
I for one didn't really miss the great battles in general - however what I disliked -I hope I don't mix things up now, its been a few years since I read the books (well, except for the Dance of Dragons, obviously)- that they "cleverly" made Tyrion pass out before the first big battle between the Lannisters and the Starks. I was a little disappointed, because I would have liked to see the badass battlemaster Tyrion rocking the battlefield, that was a nice and somewhat surprising scene in the books.  ;) Very excited about this sunday, though.

On a sidenote, today I ordered the 2nd Edition of the board game - "Der Eiserne Thron" / The Iron Throne is the german title, together with two friends. I didn't play the 1st Edition, as I'm not quite a sucker for board games, but all I've read so far was positive, so I'm really anxious about that as well.  :)

Screw the winter, dragons are coming. All hail Daenerys Targaryen, the true ruler of Westeros!

Fire and Blood!

Plus, I'm really looking forward (yeah, to a lot of things, I realize that now) to... a certain character, not really a spoiler, and I suppose she could be seen in the trailers, but I'll put it in an unmeaning image link, so nobody has to see it who doesn't want to. I really like that character.  8)

http://www.csicon.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/GoT1.jpg?ecd0dc (http://www.csicon.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/GoT1.jpg?ecd0dc)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Eglaerinion on 28-03-2012, 10:03:34
Best show on TV. April 1st is coming (soon).
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Biiviz on 28-03-2012, 11:03:12
I for one didn't really miss the great battles in general - however what I disliked -I hope I don't mix things up now, its been a few years since I read the books (well, except for the Dance of Dragons, obviously)- that they "cleverly" made Tyrion pass out before the first big battle between the Lannisters and the Starks. I was a little disappointed, because I would have liked to see the badass battlemaster Tyrion rocking the battlefield, that was a nice and somewhat surprising scene in the books.  ;) Very excited about this sunday, though.

Midgets usually have bad balance and awkward movement. Perhaps they thought they couldn't make it look good.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Gezoes on 28-03-2012, 12:03:33
....................................................And NO SPOILERS.

That's one already, because 'it's so cool and reassuring he directed that episode himself'.

Anyway. Next weekend. I was going to watch the previous ten in advance, but I seem to remember quite a bit. They released a new recap called Game Of Thrones You Win Or You Die. It's actually more of an interview reel than a recap. I'm so pleased they are constantly using strong veteran actors, instead of the usual shallow 25-somethings that only look pretty.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: hslan.Corvax on 28-03-2012, 13:03:23
I was pretty bought in the first season. Liked it a lot. First i was like meh whatever (no i haven't read the books) but after the first two or so episodes the storyline got me and i was wtf everyone wants that damn throne, why is it so awesome ? And then it went on getting more and more exciting and i loved it. Cant wait for season 2 :)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 28-03-2012, 13:03:23
....................................................And NO SPOILERS.

That's one already, because 'it's so cool and reassuring he directed that episode himself'.

If you have read the book, you know exactly what battle I mean and what happens. Hardly a spoiler.

If you have not read the book, yes, there will be a battle! Hardly a spoiler.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 28-03-2012, 18:03:54
I started to watch this serie yesterday. I am VERY enjoying it. This will keep me going for a while!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Eglaerinion on 28-03-2012, 20:03:41
Six clips from season 2 episode 1: The North Remembers.

http://winteriscoming.net/2012/03/six-clips-from-ep-11-the-north-remembers/#more-15503

I'm really glad they are showing Robb's campaign in the River and Westerlands. He's not a POV character in the books so you miss out on nearly all his adventures.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 28-03-2012, 20:03:46
"These are northmen, uncle. The North Remembers."
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 28-03-2012, 22:03:09
How are the books?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 28-03-2012, 22:03:21
How are the books?
Approximately 7 times better than the TV series.




Edit: I'm disappointed if Vargo Hoat rides a boring horse.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 29-03-2012, 09:03:35
Can't wait to see Dany wearing a Quartheen gown. :D
Too bad I'm not at home at the 1st April, so I have to wait untill Friday to watch it. If the 2nd season will be as good as the first, it'll easily become one of the best book-adaptions ever.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 29-03-2012, 20:03:24
This serie is great. The books even better

Also arya is awesome. If i had a daughter like that=Faith in humanity restored!

And a great series, alot of nudity , even gay nudity. But still, that makes it kinda realistic


Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 31-03-2012, 13:03:25
In a room sit three great men, a king, a priest, and a rich man with his gold. Between them stands a sellsword, a little man of common birth and no great mind. Each of the great ones bids him slay the other two. 'Do it,' says the king, 'for I am your lawful ruler.' 'Do it,' says the priest, 'for I command you in the names of the gods.' 'Do it,' says the rich man, 'and all this gold shall be yours.' So tell me- who lives and who dies?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Fuchs on 31-03-2012, 14:03:36
None live!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Tankbuster on 31-03-2012, 15:03:18
The sellsword does.
Title: Re: What TV shows are you watching at the moment?
Post by: Natty on 01-04-2012, 11:04:24
Game of Thrones Season 2 premiers tonight
Title: Re: What TV shows are you watching at the moment?
Post by: THeTA0123 on 01-04-2012, 11:04:06
Game of Thrones Season 2 premiers tonight
currently watching Season 1 finale, so much win!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 01-04-2012, 16:04:12
Just finished season 1. Great show I am very curious what will happen next

I do find 2 things dissappoiting

-The death of Ned stark. i loved his character
-The lack of large battles. They say there was a huge battle but they dint "Made it" in the series....dissapointing but it doesnt ruin the series

I am very looking forward to season 2 i say!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 01-04-2012, 17:04:52
I do find 2 things dissappoiting
-The death of Ned stark. i loved his character

That´s George R.R. Martin. Just because a character seems to be "important", doesn´t mean he can´t be killed. It´s what sets "ASOIAF" apart from other fantasy series. There are no real "good" and no real "bad" characters and everyone´s life can end any minute. There´s no super hero who makes it through everything unscathed. It´s as close to real life as it can get.
I do find 2 things dissappoiting
-The lack of large battles. They say there was a huge battle but they dint "Made it" in the series....dissapointing but it doesnt ruin the series

AFAIK that was a budget reason. In the first book there actually was a major battle, but doing such a thing in a TV serie on a tight budget is quite difficult. Season 2 will hopefully contain a great, fiery battle.

Oh, and read the books. They´re awesome. ;)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 01-04-2012, 17:04:56
Seeing the high amount of viewers, i sure we will see indeed such a thing.

The tight budget does not take any other quality. Everything else is top notch done. THe props, the actors, the characters.

If this series continues like this but leaves out huge battles, i find this a good compromise and i will keep watching!

And who knows? they might make a very long feature film about the battle. Lets say one day the series ends, or because of the high profits they make a direct to video film of the battles?
All possible
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: RAnDOOm on 02-04-2012, 21:04:58
Watched the 1st episode of season 2 and all i can say is....

Nice! Very nice! 
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 02-04-2012, 22:04:50
A great and promising first episode of season 2! I have to wait an entire week now again :(


HBO delivers once again!

Just orderd the First season on DVD
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Eglaerinion on 03-04-2012, 00:04:53
Loved the first episode. Especially the Bran scenes and the Tyrion & Cersei interaction.

As someone who read the books I fear that 10 episodes are just not enough for A Clash of Kings. Some of the characters like Cressen (the maester that dies of his own poisoned wine), Melisandre (the red woman) and Stannis Baratheon (the guy with the fiery sword) could have used more build up. I had to pause the show for five minutes to explain who was who to a friend of mine after the Dragonstone scene.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 03-04-2012, 17:04:27
GOOD NEWS EVERYONE

Episode 2 has been leaked and is already on the Internetz!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Gezoes on 03-04-2012, 17:04:13
Ooo nice  ;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 03-04-2012, 20:04:55
Great 'leaked" episode  ;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 03-04-2012, 23:04:15
(http://0.media.dorkly.cvcdn.com/66/52/4bb2a17ba133d248fd0ca8aa9bdf1a72.jpg)
(http://theineptowl.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/GOT_copymeme.png)
(http://i1019.photobucket.com/albums/af318/ungco/Game%20of%20Thrones/muymra_jonsnowmeme.png)
(http://2.media.dorkly.cvcdn.com/92/22/325f7324957e7bb068698b2bb084095f.jpg)
(http://internetmemecollection.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Skyrim-Dragonborn-Daenery-Targaryen-Game-Of-Thrones1.jpg)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 05-04-2012, 23:04:01
Watched both episodes tonight and really liked them! The new characters are pretty good and the old ones are as good as in season 1, especially Tyrion, Arya and in some odd way, Joffrey.
Especially the ending of episode 2 was quite intriguing and I´m excited to see the next one.
Plot changes compared to the books aren´t as bad as in other TV adaptions (TWD *cough*), probably because GRRM himself supports the producers, so even to me, as a book purist, the show is still highly enjoyable.
Too bad it takes now another 1 1/2 weeks untill the next episode will be shown...damn leak. :/
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 05-04-2012, 23:04:36
Plot changes compared to the books aren´t as bad as in other TV adaptions (TWD *cough*), probably because GRRM himself supports the producers, so even to me, as a book purist, the show is still highly enjoyable.
Too bad it takes now another 1 1/2 weeks untill the next episode will be shown...damn leak. :/
Indeed. For some reason the thing I miss most are Small details... like Daenerys' purple and Melisandre's red yes. Unfortunately we didn't see Thoros of Myr or Jalabhar Xho in series one. One of my favourites, Beric Dondarion, was shown briefly and I hope we'll see more of him and Thoros in the future.

But some details are spot on. Like in episode one where Stannis took the burning sword. He had to wear a glove but the sword still burned him. The sword didn't burn long, was most certainly red and when Davos examined it later, the sword was ruined. It was pure show, and one might think that maybe Stannis is not Azor Ahai reborn like Melisandre seems to think... ;)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ts4EVER on 05-04-2012, 23:04:21
Just started watching this, very nice so far. However I disagree with this to some extent:


That´s George R.R. Martin. Just because a character seems to be "important", doesn´t mean he can´t be killed. It´s what sets "ASOIAF" apart from other fantasy series. There are no real "good" and no real "bad" characters and everyone´s life can end any minute. There´s no super hero who makes it through everything unscathed. It´s as close to real life as it can get.

The story is still a narrative construct, not real life. The death of each character has a purpose to propel the story (so I doubt someone would get randomly crushed by a bag of bricks, for example). Even though I am only half way through season 1, I was reasonably sure that Sean beans character would be killed, simply due to foreshadowing and because had his character been "victorious", too few options for story continuity would be open. I'm also pretty sure that both the black haired girl and the midget will survive for a loong time. The douchebag white haired borther who is with the Mongols will not survive this season, I'm pretty sure his sister will "grab power".
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Fuchs on 05-04-2012, 23:04:31
I do feel I'm missing out on a few things because I haven't read any of the books and only watched the series. Who can shed some light on the happenings in the episodes of season 2? Or refresh some of the things we previously saw in season 1.

- Why are they behind the Wall again?
- Who's this God of Light and why has Melisandre so much power?
- Who are all the people around Stannis Baratheon and what do they do?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Schneider on 05-04-2012, 23:04:38
Trying to answer that without spoilers.

- They are beyond the wall because Benjen Stark (the brother of Ned Stark who picked Jon Snow up at Winterfell in S1), who is first ranger, has gone missing with his companions, and as more patrols have gone lost in the past time, they decided to go out in strength and investigate.

- The God of Light is the positive God of a dualistic religion coming from the other continent, Essos (where the Danaerys-storyline is taking place.

- They are vassals to the Baratheons, Lords from Dragonstone, Storm's End etc., who of course support their Lord in his claim on the throne.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Fuchs on 06-04-2012, 00:04:24
So the fat old man didn't agree with a new religion and suicided instead? And she survived thanks to 'divine intervention'?

I remember Benjan now, do hope he's alive. I liked him.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Lightning on 06-04-2012, 00:04:03
Indeed. For some reason the thing I miss most are Small details... like Daenerys' purple and Melisandre's red yes. Unfortunately we didn't see Thoros of Myr or Jalabhar Xho in series one. One of my favourites, Beric Dondarion, was shown briefly and I hope we'll see more of him and Thoros in the future.
Though on the other hand, you have Ser Jorah Mormont, who isn't a huge bald man with coarse black hair on his arms and chest or Lord Tywin Lannister, who isn't bald with large golden sideburns. They've picked excellent actors for these two roles and, having watched season 1 before reading A Game of Thrones, it's hard to imagine them not looking like the actors who portray them.

The story is still a narrative construct, not real life. The death of each character has a purpose to propel the story (so I doubt someone would get randomly crushed by a bag of bricks, for example).
I would be very impressed if you could guess who lives and dies in season 2 when you're watching it.

So the fat old man didn't agree with a new religion and suicided instead? And she survived thanks to 'divine intervention'?
She's a sorceress. Or is she?

Plot changes compared to the books aren´t as bad as in other TV adaptions (TWD *cough*), probably because GRRM himself supports the producers, so even to me, as a book purist, the show is still highly enjoyable.
One change I'm a bit confused about is the battle of the green fork in season 1. In the book, Robb sends his entire army under the command of Roose Bolton, save for his cavalry, which he takes with him to Riverrun. But in the series, he only sent 2000 men as a diversion. I'm curious as to how this will tie in with the rest of the story.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 06-04-2012, 00:04:25
I do feel I'm missing out on a few things because I haven't read any of the books and only watched the series. Who can shed some light on the happenings in the episodes of season 2? Or refresh some of the things we previously saw in season 1.

1. Why are they behind the Wall again?
2. Who's this God of Light and why has Melisandre so much power?
3. Who are all the people around Stannis Baratheon and what do they do?

1.
- Rangers have gone missing, amongst them the first ranger Benjen Stark.
- The wildlings have left their homes.
- Rumours tell that the king-beyond-the-well, Mance Rayder, would be gathering a great host.
- Two black brothers turned into wights.
Basically, Lord Commander Mormont is trying to find out what is actually happening in the north.

2. R'hllor aka Lord of Light is a god from the east. This religion is popular in the East, but only a minor one after the faith of the Seven and the Old Gods in Westeros. The red priests/priestesses are servants of the Lord of Light, and of all holy people they seems to have greatest power. Melisandre is a red priestess from Asshai in the far east. He is a "shadowbinder" (sort of a mage) which might explain some of her powers.

Melisandre thinks that Stannis is Azor Ahai reborn. (An ancient hero who beat the Others some 5000 years ago.)

3. Like Schneider explained. The man who spoke with the Maester is Davos "the Onion Knight" Seaworth. You will hear more about him in future episodes. ^^

Indeed. For some reason the thing I miss most are Small details... like Daenerys' purple and Melisandre's red yes. Unfortunately we didn't see Thoros of Myr or Jalabhar Xho in series one. One of my favourites, Beric Dondarion, was shown briefly and I hope we'll see more of him and Thoros in the future.
Though on the other hand, you have Ser Jorah Mormont, who isn't a huge bald man with coarse black hair on his arms and chest or Lord Tywin Lannister, who isn't bald with large golden sideburns. They've picked excellent actors for these two roles and, having watched season 1 before reading A Game of Thrones, it's hard to imagine them not looking like the actors who portray them.

I do miss Tywin's sidewhiskers :/
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 06-04-2012, 11:04:46
Just started watching this, very nice so far. However I disagree with this to some extent:

The story is still a narrative construct, not real life. The death of each character has a purpose to propel the story (so I doubt someone would get randomly crushed by a bag of bricks, for example).
You´re right, of course each death has a purpose for the story line, but unlike most high-fantasy series, for example LOTR, you´re never sure if a character will survive the next pages/minutes.
As the story progresses, many "important" and beloved (or hated) characters die. Their deaths often have major impacts on the storyline, but their demise often comes quick and unpredicted.
This makes ASOIAF feel very "realistic", because everyone is mortal and noone is safe from an (often) nasty death.

I also agree with Fuchs. If you didn´t read the books some things can be difficult to understand, especially the R´Hollor cult and Melissandre.

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I would be very impressed if you could guess who lives and dies in season 2 when you're watching it.
If people were shocked by Neds death, season 2 will have some nasty surprises for them. ;)

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Indeed. For some reason the thing I miss most are Small details..
IMHO the Dothraki don´t look as "foreign" in the TV show as they´re described in the book. I always imagined they look like Mongols, while many in the show just look like tanned westerners. That slightly irritated me, but I can look over such a minor thing, because the rest of the show is top notch.
Especially the environment is just great and I love how they portray the variety in GRRMs world. Especially Pike looked awesome and just as I´ve imagined it.
Can´t wait to see a certain battle in a certain city, which involves ships. :D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 06-04-2012, 15:04:29
Watched both episodes tonight and really liked them! The new characters are pretty good and the old ones are as good as in season 1, especially Tyrion, Arya and in some odd way, Joffrey.
Especially the ending of episode 2 was quite intriguing and I´m excited to see the next one.
Plot changes compared to the books aren´t as bad as in other TV adaptions (TWD *cough*), probably because GRRM himself supports the producers, so even to me, as a book purist, the show is still highly enjoyable.
Too bad it takes now another 1 1/2 weeks untill the next episode will be shown...damn leak. :/
i agree with everything you said here.

Altough i wish they made more episodes per season because some things of the books are being missed.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Flyboy1942 on 06-04-2012, 20:04:15
I do miss Tywin's sidewhiskers :/

Komark has a decent depiction:
(http://www.komarckart.com/agot_01.jpg)

Jaime looking like Jaime Lannister:
(http://www.komarckart.com/cov_10.jpg)

All of his stuff is pretty good tbh...
http://www.komarckart.com/ccg_agot03.html
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Schneider on 06-04-2012, 20:04:03
Oh, these are collectible cards?
Funny, as these illustrations are on the board game as well.  :)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 06-04-2012, 20:04:38
(http://www.komarckart.com/agot_03.jpg)
And here we see how tall The Mountain should be... ;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Eglaerinion on 09-04-2012, 13:04:08
I want to see the new episode! Any Dutchies here where HBO Go isn't working either? I'm almost at the point where I'm going to call the cable company as HBO is not responding to my mail (probably have a bank holiday).

Edit:
great episode, fewer characters this time so we get some expanded storyline. Ironborn scenes were really good, I find the chapters concerning the ironborn to be the least interesting in the books. The TV show definitely improves upon them like they did with King Robert and the small council members in season 1.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Gezoes on 10-04-2012, 11:04:21
Cool two episodes so far, but I was expecting things to move a bit faster. Apart from the smallest King's Hand in history and Stanis' storyline, there isn't that much happening with 20% of season 2 complete.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Lightning on 11-04-2012, 15:04:37
HBO has signed up for a third season of A Game of Thrones. The third season will have 10 episodes again and will cover the first half of A Storm of Swords. [1] (http://grrm.livejournal.com/276653.html)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Fuchs on 11-04-2012, 16:04:42
HBO be praised  :)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kubador on 11-04-2012, 16:04:41
They know a good investment.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Flyboy1942 on 11-04-2012, 17:04:59
What if...HBO had picked up Firefly in '02?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 11-04-2012, 17:04:18
Sweet news. The next season will make a big part of the viewers go mad...Neds death was a nasty affair that caused tons of angry/sad reactions, but a certain event in the 3rd book will definately top this...

I´m also glad that they´ve decided to produce two seasons from one book. I always felt that 10 episodes alone might not be enough for one book.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 11-04-2012, 17:04:12
A Storm of Swords is so much longer that the two first books. Even the paperback edition was split into two pars. It's almost as long as A Dance With Dragons.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Flyboy1942 on 11-04-2012, 17:04:57
OH snap! You're right, that will be in the next season. I bet that series of events will be the season finale, since it's about midway though the book. 0__0 Oh geez I cant wait to see the outcry after that-a fourth season is a guarantee!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 11-04-2012, 18:04:35
HBO has signed up for a third season of A Game of Thrones. The third season will have 10 episodes again and will cover the first half of A Storm of Swords. [1] (http://grrm.livejournal.com/276653.html)
(http://assets.diylol.com/hfs/cc0/611/141/resized/praise-the-lord-meme-generator-praise-the-lord-5d7260.jpg)

on the other side=
(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/3788317_460s.jpg)

9gag spelling
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Eglaerinion on 11-04-2012, 22:04:04
9gag again.  ::)

Great to hear about the third season extension. The best book from the series gets around 20 episodes. That ominous event concluding series 3. The outrage after Ned's execution will be nothing compared to that.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Gezoes on 12-04-2012, 11:04:03
Yes, thank you. That'll do. They should tie up and gag the book readers >:(
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Sander93 on 15-04-2012, 12:04:54
Is E03 being released tomorrow?

E02 being hijacked threw off my sense of shedule and I can't bloody wait for the next episode.  ;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 15-04-2012, 12:04:04
Is E03 being released tomorrow?

E02 being hijacked threw off my sense of shedule and I can't bloody wait for the next episode.  ;D
It is planned for tommorow yes :)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 16-04-2012, 19:04:59
tyrion lannister

Y U SO BLOODY AWESOME
I keep trowing medals at the screen but he doesnt accept them!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Biiviz on 16-04-2012, 19:04:22
I'm so disappointed Natalie Dormer didn't get fucked.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 16-04-2012, 19:04:09
"I used to be a dyer's apprentice, but then I took an arrow to the knee."
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 16-04-2012, 19:04:25
"I used to be a dyer's apprentice, but then I took an arrow to the knee."
hahahahahaha



Great episode, it was over before i knew it :(

Once again tyrion lannister is bloody awesome.
New hot hot hot hot hot hot hot hot chick=Margaery Tyrell
I'm so disappointed Natalie Dormer didn't get fucked.
But we saw her tits. Close enough

Also Brienne is awesome. She is like a gaint that will rip your head off

WARNING to religious folks=Men kissing men in this episode
(http://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/Troll_4b7148_1719826.gif)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 16-04-2012, 19:04:52
"I used to be a dyer's apprentice, but then I took an arrow to the knee."
Well, he kinda had it coming. Taking such a fancy helmet and seriously expecting the guys that just wounded you and killed your guide to actually carry you is pretty naive...

I liked the Blackwatch guy, btw. "I always hated crossbows. They take forever to reload!" *killseveryoneinreach*

Great episode, btw, I also enjoyed the Iron Islands scene. It´s just a nice setting and the coming plot will also upset those who haven´t read the books. Seriously, if you can read, read the books!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 16-04-2012, 19:04:48
It´s just a nice setting and the coming plot will also upset those who haven´t read the books. Seriously, if you can read, read the books!
*looks that he is only at page 150 of 800+ first book

IM GIVING IT ALL IVE GOT CAPTAIN

BUT YOUR EXPECTING A BLOODY MIRACLE
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Flyboy1942 on 16-04-2012, 22:04:26
Now you have to read all the books by tomorrow morning or we wont make it to the planet in time to stop the thermonuclear war!

Latest episode was awesome. Maise Williams (Arya) continues to astound. Some very nice action from a true man of the Night's Watch. Tyrion writes the book on Westerosi Counter Intelligence. Asha has gnarly caveman brow when serious face.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Paasky on 17-04-2012, 00:04:51
I can so see Maise as the next pedo-bear img victim, except she's too un-girly to fit the profile. What a great gal she's playing!


The characters I like the most so far have been the midget (such a cool guy, always 5 steps ahead of anyone else while being a real douche), Arya (such a great fuck you to gender stereotypes which are really strong in this time period), the recently-deceased lord of the North (seemed like such a good father & loyal man) & his eldest daughter (I really wish they give her a good growing-up-strong-like-her-little-sister story)


Mind you I haven't read any of the literature so please no spoilers!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 17-04-2012, 18:04:23
(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/3870668_460s.jpg)

I personally hope to see more of him  ;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 17-04-2012, 20:04:48
Jalabhar Xho would have been quite black indeed, but they didn't show him in series one.

Salladhor Saan hangs around with Stannis and Davos, so he should be in few episodes. His hair is not quite as long and white as I anticipated, though ;)

and he is not just a pirate, he is also a trader and a banker. ;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 17-04-2012, 20:04:40
And he wants to fuck the queen  ;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Tuco on 18-04-2012, 02:04:38
Id hit it, then promptly kill it with fire.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Fuchs on 18-04-2012, 16:04:48
He could've killed all the characters he wanted but he had to kill my favourites. Martin is a real bastard! First Lord Stark and now that super cool Night's Watch recruiter. At least I still have Tyrion.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 18-04-2012, 18:04:50
(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/3895403_460s_v1.jpg)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Flyboy1942 on 18-04-2012, 18:04:02
You guys all realized this is Sean Bean's Cinematic Karma for surviving a ridiculously long time in the Sharpe films series right?

Is it Sunday yet? No? Damn.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 20-04-2012, 16:04:19
Almost flyboy, almost, i Fucking cant wait till monday  ;D(well monday for us Euros, HBO Premium broadcasts it here to late so i record it)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 21-04-2012, 10:04:36
If you had trouble visualising the different places in "AGOT", here´s (http://www.sermountaingoat.co.uk/map/versions/speculative_map.jpg) a pretty good high-res map that combines the different continents and should shed some light on how all these places are connected.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 21-04-2012, 11:04:22
If you had trouble visualising the different places in "AGOT", here´s (http://www.sermountaingoat.co.uk/map/versions/speculative_map.jpg) a pretty good high-res map that combines the different continents and should shed some light on how all these places are connected.
oooh dude AWESOME thanks

Cant they make an elder scrolls styled game of this?  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 21-04-2012, 11:04:58
oooh dude AWESOME thanks

Cant they make an elder scrolls styled game of this?  ;D ;D
Hell yes! I always thought this would be a great idea. Pissing off the wall, striding through Kings Landings brothels or riding through the Dothraki Sea. How awesome would that be?

Also, if someone has enough money to spend, there´s a company producing ASOIAF coins (http://www.shirepost.com/GeorgeMartin.html). Pretty darn cool.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 22-04-2012, 21:04:23
Tonight for mericans, tommorow for us Europeans! Episode 4

i cant blooming wait  ;D

Lets all hear the soundtrack, shall we?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7L2PVdrb_8
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 22-04-2012, 22:04:35
We might finally see Vargo Hoat. And he bloody well should not be riding a boring horse!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Eglaerinion on 23-04-2012, 00:04:32
We might finally see Vargo Hoat. And he bloody well should not be riding a boring horse!
Don't believe the bloody mummers have been cast.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 23-04-2012, 00:04:50
We might finally see Vargo Hoat. And he bloody well should not be riding a boring horse!
Don't believe the bloody mummers have been cast.
Whaaaat?

Vargo Hoat - kind of important.
Qyburn - kind of important.
Zollo - kind of important.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Flyboy1942 on 23-04-2012, 02:04:56
My HBO isnt working cause Time Warner. Time Warner better hope they can fix it. They better pray. They better hire a facility to sacrifice some kids.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Eglaerinion on 23-04-2012, 17:04:49
So what did you guys think? Thought it was hit and miss this episode. I'm not going to compare it to the books just comment on the scenes as is. Joffrey abusing whores didn't do anything for me, same for the introduction to the thirteen and Quarth. Harrenhal was great, Charles Dance stealing the show there and more Tyrion + Bronn bromance was great as well.
We might finally see Vargo Hoat. And he bloody well should not be riding a boring horse!
Don't believe the bloody mummers have been cast.
Whaaaat?

Vargo Hoat - kind of important.
Qyburn - kind of important.
Zollo - kind of important.

Well they're introducing a bunch of characters in season 3 that originally appeared in Book 2 first. It's a good thing because season 3 covers roughly half of the third book and cramming more characters in season 2 would make the show even harder to follow for non book readers.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 23-04-2012, 18:04:12
chill guys

Episode 4 here i come!

(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/3948614_460s.jpg)

Btw guys, how much do the books origenally cost? i can order 6 of the 7 books (dragon dance part 2 not included) for 75 euros. Is that a good price?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 23-04-2012, 18:04:51
You can get all of the paperbacks from Amazon for like 15€.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 23-04-2012, 18:04:41
Yeah, I bought books 1 to 4 for 15 Euros at Amazon. It´s a special paperback edition and is definately worth its price if you don´t mind them being paperbacks.
Anyway, episode 4 was pretty good. Tyrion is one clever SOB while Littlefinger has shown his only weakness.
This episode showed me that it´s actually a good thing that they want to split the next book into 2 seasons. 10 60 minute episodes aren´t just enough. I was pretty disappointed that they left out some stuff or simplified parts of the plot.
I also hope we´ll see Dany wear a certain Quartheen gown in the coming episodes. ;)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Flyboy1942 on 23-04-2012, 18:04:38
Dany's story is so much fun. I seriously cant stop grinning thinking about the coming scenes.

Hmm, I just realized we didnt see any Jon this episode. Oh well, theyre probably saving a large chunk of next episode for that.

The episode was overall decent, but as Homer pointed out, the main drawback was the length of time. There's simply not enough time to give every plotline a solid showing. All we see are a couple events per line, and while they are done very well, they're far too short to be satisfying. For instance Dany: A rider returns with news of Quarth, they enter. Not very much happened because there was so much going on in Kings Landing and Storm's End and Harrenhall...

Oh that reminds me, AWESOME job with that approach scene to Harrenhall. I'd forgotten about the massive towers with the tops shattered by dragons long ago. : )
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Lightning on 23-04-2012, 19:04:51
I've got all 5 books, paperback edition from Harper Voyager. Spent no more than 30 euros on it and got them from amazon.co.uk.

I loved episode 4. Especially seeing Harrenhall and Qarth, but the scene at the end was definitely my favourite. I read this passage like three times in the book, thinking "wait, what did I just read?", but the way it looked in this episode was just amazingly done. There were also loads of deviations from the book in this episode, so it was pretty much new for me as well (looking on the bright side here).
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 23-04-2012, 19:04:23
Harrenhall was amazing! I worried that they would not take the whole molten by dragonfire thing seriously enough. ;D

And "Tickler" was spot on!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 23-04-2012, 19:04:55
Great episode, tyrion lannister once again takes the show!


But what in seven hells was that thing on the ending O_O
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Flyboy1942 on 23-04-2012, 19:04:45
Medieval chemical warfare. Red woman had gnarly flatulence.

I need to reread the 2nd book it's been too long...
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 23-04-2012, 19:04:47
Nah dont spoil it  ;D


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_of_Thrones_(video_game) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_of_Thrones_(video_game))  check this out
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 23-04-2012, 20:04:11
Harrenhall was amazing! I worried that they would not take the whole molten by dragonfire thing seriously enough. ;D

And "Tickler" was spot on!
Now that I've seen the whole episode, dew more things.

- Nifty name-dropping (Polliver actually shown, and Dondarion, Thoros & co. were mentioned indirectly).
- No Bloody Mummers and Vargo Hoat. No even his rather unique mount.
- The shadow was neatly done.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Biiviz on 23-04-2012, 20:04:55
What the fuck did I just watch?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Flyboy1942 on 23-04-2012, 21:04:26
Grade A television.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 23-04-2012, 23:04:55
HBO is the only network still delivering class A series

BWE <3
GOT <3
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Biiviz on 23-04-2012, 23:04:21
I was referring to the black smoky skull thing climbing out of a woman's vagina...
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 23-04-2012, 23:04:58
Just some ordinary everyday blood magic and shadowbinding.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Gezoes on 24-04-2012, 00:04:31
***** SPOILERAGE! ***** unless you've seen this week's ep.





So Carice - "Off with the clothes!" ;D - van Houten gave birth to the dev... Robert's son... a dem... ehrm... Guess they really didn't have to worry about them bars.

Blood, severed heads, Mad King II ordering to plug a hole, 2nd cool black castmember 8)

Best one of season 2 so far. Striking sets too. I'm starting to like Robert. That talk on the mountain was icy, love that stuff.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kubador on 24-04-2012, 00:04:29
The imp owns everyone hands down - as expected.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Gezoes on 24-04-2012, 00:04:29
I got so used to his powerful and witty performances, I forget to mention that, thanks.

Peter = awesome.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 24-04-2012, 00:04:46
Robert died in the first book, I think you mean his brother Stannis. ;)


Edit:
(http://media.riemurasia.net/albumit/mmedia/5k/8hs/vrgy/221040/961491737.gif) ;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Gezoes on 24-04-2012, 14:04:36
Ah yes. Stannis. And that wasn't even a hard one. So many people. I have a fair grip on it, however some tribes and people are still introduced a bit too quickly. Pyke and these Deer people for instance.

Hehe. I love how you can always tell from Peter's face..: "They are clapping extra hard because I am a dwarf. **** 'em." Everyone is also looking away from him. "Look at me people, clap with me, it's a little person doing something amazing."

One can tell he doesn't exactly... like those people :D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Flyboy1942 on 24-04-2012, 15:04:34
I thought Gezoes was talking about the author...then remembered that it wasn't Robert Jordan. >_<

Who's implying that the shadow skull vaginal exodus isn't grade A television?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 24-04-2012, 21:04:59
I thought Gezoes was talking about the author...then remembered that it wasn't Robert Jordan. >_<

Who's implying that the shadow skull vaginal exodus isn't grade A television?

What the fuck did I just watch?

THIS BLASPHEMER



Meryn Trant=Nobody threathens his grace in presence of the kingsguard!
Tyrion=I am not threathing him ser, i am educuating my nephew. Bronn the next time Ser meryn speaks, kill him.THAT was a threath, see the diffrence?

So bloody Brilliant, i love this guy
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 25-04-2012, 18:04:46
(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/3974336_460s.jpg)

Double post i know, but it is regarding boobs
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 25-04-2012, 19:04:17
Does it count singular boobs or pairs?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Biiviz on 25-04-2012, 19:04:22
And is sideboob technically only half a boob?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 25-04-2012, 19:04:23
you guys NEVER dissapoint me  ;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Paasky on 25-04-2012, 20:04:56
Also is this boobs per person, or by scene? If it was by shot it would be much greater.


WE NEED SCIENCE AND FACTS!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Eat Uranium on 25-04-2012, 20:04:25
That all the numbers are divisible by 2, I'd guess that it counts individual boobs and not pairs (since there always exists the chance of an obscured rack).  I've not watched any episodes though, so I cannot say if this is per person per episode or per person per scene.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 25-04-2012, 21:04:58
the joffrey/prostitue scene was a bit harsh tough :(
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 30-04-2012, 11:04:43
Anyway, just finished the latest episode and really, really liked it so far. Most of the scenes gave me that "calm before a storm" feeling, especially the Kings Landing scenes, with that guy preaching against the king and Tyrion discovering the Alchemists gifts. Also, Pryat Pree looks really great, with his hollow eyes, blue lips and skinny head; just as I´ve imagined a degenerate warlock to look like. The Nights Watch scenes were spectacular as well and proved once again how good HBO is at capturing the feeling of GRRMs world.
Can´t wait for the next episode!

Btw, has anyone tried the "A Game of Thrones" card game? I´m currently thinking of buying the starter set.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ts4EVER on 30-04-2012, 13:04:32
Btw, has anyone tried the "A Game of Thrones" card game? I´m currently thinking of buying the starter set.

I prefer not to have physical evidence for my nerdism
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 30-04-2012, 13:04:27

I prefer not to have physical evidence for my nerdism

Being an excessive car fan who pours tons of money into his pimped ride, someone who goes binge drinking every weekend or a football fan who does nothing but talk about his club are nerds in some way, too.
As long as you´re not too obsessed with one thing ,having a "nerdy hobby" isn´t something to be ashamed of, so I don´t see the problem of spending some of my disposable "income" on playing cards.
It´s not like I´d suddenly live in a cave and wouldn´t dare to talk to girls anymore.  :P

/OT

Btw, how cool is Bronn?

Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 30-04-2012, 17:04:34
I wonder how Meera and Jojen Reed will be implemented to the story... :/

The should already be in Winterfell and they are quite important later on.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Flyboy1942 on 30-04-2012, 19:04:18
Damn you're right I was expecting them earlier in the series and didnt notice how far it had progressed already. I cant remember if they got cast for this season. Perhaps Osha will cover their dialog bits about the crow untill they get introduced next season?

Oh, awesome episode. I remember seeing a "making of" feature about the shooting in Iceland for the Fist of the First Men locations. Driving miles through feet off snow to get stunning locations like these is why HBO is great.

Probably one of my favorite scenes was the dialog between Arya and Tywin. Her deadpan, unwavering "Anyone can be killed my lord" was... C:
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Eglaerinion on 30-04-2012, 20:04:47
Show gets better by the week. Sort of the same thing that happened during season 1.
I wonder how Meera and Jojen Reed will be implemented to the story... :/

The should already be in Winterfell and they are quite important later on.
They play a tiny role in CoK though, the only interesting thing about them is that certain journey and some of the tales they tell (all of it could happen in season 3 & 4).
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 30-04-2012, 21:04:19
Great episode once again. Great quality, props are getting even better. Lets just hope we see a battle soon at kings landing!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 02-05-2012, 19:05:39
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esDuge1iK4w

Miracle
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: NTH on 02-05-2012, 21:05:20
Next stop for Carice van Houten .. Porn Industry ??! She goes far in her role as Melisandre. Kudo's for her to do this stuff, yet I do wonder if it doesn't hurt your career.

Is the sex also so prominent in the book, or is it just HBO, like with Boardwalk Empire and other HBO series.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 02-05-2012, 21:05:24
HBO did add some extra boobies to the series. Few of the scenes felt like they just created them as an excuse to show some more nudity.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Lightning on 02-05-2012, 21:05:00
Basically, all scenes with whores (with the exception of Shae) are not in the books.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Biiviz on 02-05-2012, 21:05:15
Frankly, I don't care for your dismissive attitude towards boobs.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 02-05-2012, 22:05:50
Frankly, I don't care for your dismissive attitude towards boobs.
Aye. And I´m frankly disappointed in the TV show that they´re not showing the full glory of Quartheen gowns. :/
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Lightning on 06-05-2012, 13:05:51
Episode 16 Preview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfOyKdtG6D8)

Looking forward to seeing Jon Snow's story progress, though it seems from the footage they're already nearing the end of what's in a Clash of Kings. Seems like that's the case with most story lines. I wonder whether they're saving up for a really detailed episode later on, or whether they're going to continue on with a Storm of Swords in season 2. Also, what the fuck is going on in Qarth? I recognise nothing of what the preview shows.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ts4EVER on 06-05-2012, 17:05:11
Anyone noticed that the clothes that first officer on the "Sea bitch" is wearing looks like modern camouflage clothing?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Flyboy1942 on 07-05-2012, 01:05:21
The Iron Born are boss that's why.

I think there is a lot more to cover with Kings Landing and Winterfell, in addition to the North...and Quarth...yeah I dont know how they could fit it all into 4 episodes. I guess roughly an hour per storyline might do it, but it's awfully tight...
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ciupita on 07-05-2012, 18:05:05
I was disappointed... Boring episode.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Flyboy1942 on 07-05-2012, 19:05:08
Really? The stuff in Winterfell was pretty important. The other story lines were a bit less eventful this episode, but it's all setting up for big events coming.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Biiviz on 07-05-2012, 19:05:13
Plus that snowy north chick is probably about to put out.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 07-05-2012, 19:05:40
I really liked the episode. There were some changes compared to the books, but otherwise it was quite nice.
All story lines had something important going on, but of course especially Winterfell was the big thing. The only thing that I didn´t quite like was Danys "the throne is mine and I will take it!"-bitching (still love her, of course  :P) but otherwise the episode was top-notch.

The way Theons "plan" went was quite interesting, too. I really had to laugh when he told Bran that he took Winterfell and Bran greets him like an old friend. Also the execution was well done. You just have to pitty Theon. He´s torn between two "homes" and just doesn´t find his place...poor fella.

The "north of the wall"-scenes were really cool, as well. The filming location is spectacular and I´m looking forward to see more Wildlings.

Joffrey is a cunt, as usual and Myrcellas journey to Dorne will be quite interesting as well.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 07-05-2012, 20:05:17
Few observations:

- Theon killed Rodrik Cassel? And he didn't make a sacrifice to the drowned god?

- Not sure what will happen with Qhorin Halfhand if Jon just buggers off with Ygritte...

- What going on with the Volantese* girl? Are they seriously planning to replace Jeyne Westerling with her?

- What the balls is going on in Qarth?


*The Long Bridge was mentioned... I guess we'll see it in series 7? 8? ;)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Paasky on 07-05-2012, 21:05:22
The one episode per week and my horrible memory with names is really starting to show: I have no idea who anyone is talking about when they use names, but as soon as the face is shown I immediately connect the dots. Just the "previously on ..." bits always make me wonder if I accidentally skipped 5 episodes.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 07-05-2012, 21:05:10
(http://img.poptower.com/pic-85052/rose-leslie.jpg?d=600)

(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/002/252/me-gusta.jpg)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Biiviz on 07-05-2012, 21:05:08
The one episode per week and my horrible memory with names is really starting to show: I have no idea who anyone is talking about when they use names, but as soon as the face is shown I immediately connect the dots.

Same here. 'Cept half the time I can't ever remember what the different places are. Winterfell, King's landing, Qarth, the Wall and then some other places with rocky shores and mountains and shit. Oh, and that place where the little girl is where people got tortured.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Flyboy1942 on 07-05-2012, 21:05:58
It's a 600 page book crammed into 10 episodes, try to keep up. :P

If you happen to have one of the books I think there's a helpful breakdown of the families/groups.

...I tried to find something similar for you online just now Paasky but all of the ones I found were either horrible to navigate or contained spoilers...or both. >_>

Edit: http://www.towerofthehand.com/maps/westeros.html

Stop it theta youre making me frisky.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Biiviz on 07-05-2012, 21:05:00
Guess I'll rewatch it at some point to understand stuff better.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 07-05-2012, 21:05:34
I agree. The plot isn´t that easy to follow if you haven´t read the books and some parts are pretty rushed. George R.R. Martin said he would´ve loved the show to have some more episodes than only ten, since the books cover many characters and locations. That´s why I´m really glad they´re making the next book into two seasons.
Also, check out some maps of Westeros and Essos, if you care enough, that should shed some light on where the different locations are.

Oh, and I´m normally not into redheads, but that actress who plays Ygritte could grind my gear all day, if you know what I mean.  ;)

Btw, here´s (http://www.sermountaingoat.co.uk/map/versions/speculative_map.jpg) a great map of the ASOIAF universe.

Also, some cool gifs:
(http://s1.torbit.com/img/e507cf070752d5a322aa94789097aade999be39a-ib2BJS5UURGq6i.gif)

(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3mtdaw2WV1qzlt9yo1_250.gif)
(http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3mtdaw2WV1qzlt9yo2_250.gif)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 07-05-2012, 22:05:20
great episode and yes

Ygritte

Can keep me warm anytime

Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kubador on 08-05-2012, 09:05:51
I didn't read the books (yet) and it seems that many fine details, that would make the story less loose, are just skimmed due to the 10 episode limit. The series are still great but it looks like they don't cover as much story as the first season.

Some things I noticed in episode 6:

- John Snow is an idiot.
- Theon is an idiot with issues.
- Joffrey is a cunt idiot.
- Dog is badass.
- Danys lives in 'friendship is magic' world.
- Starks rule all.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Lightning on 08-05-2012, 12:05:42
Seems to me they cut a lot of details of the main characters of A Clash Of Kings (like Tyrion, Arya and Bran) to give more story to characters that don't do as much in this book (like Jon Snow, Daenerys, Littlefinger, Tywin Lannister). It's especially bad with Bran's storyline, which misses like 7 characters, and with Daenerys's storyline, which is pretty much entirely made up.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Biiviz on 08-05-2012, 12:05:44
What did Daenery actually do?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 08-05-2012, 13:05:15
Not to spoil anything since I don't remember what bits happened in ACoK and what in ASoS, but in the books she is totally bad ass compared to the series.

And she will get some total bad ass followers. ^^

I just hope that they will stop killing her bloodriders in every other episode, come on HBO what the actual fuck?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Lightning on 08-05-2012, 14:05:08
What did Daenery actually do?
To say it without spoilers; she goes to Qarth and talks to people. That's pretty much it.

To compare with other characters; Daenerys only has 5 chapters in A Clash of Kings and her story is not progressed at all in other chapters. Tyrion, for example, has 15 chapters, but he is also a part of many of Sansa's 8 chapters.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Eglaerinion on 08-05-2012, 14:05:35
What did Daenery actually do?
Nothing. At least in the show things seem to be getting interesting in Qarth.

On the point of missing characters. There are just too many characters to introduce in 10 episodes if they filmed the books ad verbatim. Alot of non book readers already have trouble as is.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 08-05-2012, 17:05:21
(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/4104370_460s_v1.jpg)

The "Sean bean sandwich theft" made me laugh

Why i steal sandwiches you say? CAUSE YOUR A WOMAN you can always make more
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Flyboy1942 on 08-05-2012, 19:05:27
I am surprised that doesnt include the bit about Maise (right-handed) insisting on learning the swordfighting scenes left-handed because Arya is a lefty in canon.

I think they had to add more for Dany so showfriends wont forget about her/complain. And I laughed at Dany being in "friendship is magic land" because in ways it is a little true, shes an idealist. But this also implies she is soft, and easily pushed around because of this. Just wait, her story has barely started.

It's too bad they had to age up Sansa for the show, she was 13 or so in the books, so her naive swooning after Joffrey and the ease with which she is manipulated makes a lot more sense. She does seem rather dumb currently cause you expect her age to show more maturity.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Paasky on 08-05-2012, 20:05:21
They did say Sansa was 13 in the first season, in the first episode I believe.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 08-05-2012, 20:05:21
She was 11 at the start of the first book. All of the children are 2 years older in the TV series.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kubador on 08-05-2012, 20:05:25
I prefer that than having another young anakin skywalker on my screen.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Flyboy1942 on 08-05-2012, 22:05:48
Oh I got that messed up then. Something to do with the two year differnece between the characters and the 2 year age up. It doesnt really make a differece though, the actress is still a 16 year old playing a much younger character.

I definitely prefer it, I would smack HBO if we got an Anakin. I was just explaining my reasoning as to why she seemed "stupid" as a previous post pointed out.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Fuchs on 08-05-2012, 22:05:50
After doing some reading on the different characters on the A Wiki of Ice and Fire I really look forward to a certain little boy with an affection of cats to get in a certain position. Cats!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 08-05-2012, 23:05:25
(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/4113522_700b.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dE786RERGE
Jasons HAKA
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Biiviz on 09-05-2012, 03:05:46
That last comment is so wrong. It should end with "OP is a fag" like all normal posts.

>implying 4chan is normal
>implying implications
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 09-05-2012, 18:05:28
Just 9gag

Mudra likes 9gag
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Lightning on 14-05-2012, 15:05:11
Bit of a 'jumpy' episode, going from one place to another and back again and to another and back and somewhere else.

Still, pretty good in all. I'm curious to see how they're going to reconcile Jon's and Daenerys's stories with the book.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 14-05-2012, 17:05:02
The two most important characters and they have changed their stories quite a bit... :/

We'll see.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Fuchs on 14-05-2012, 18:05:45
I loved this episode. Curious about what will happen to the bastard though. The situation in Qarth is getting... interesting to say the least and I truly enjoyed Tywin and Arya once again, I keep hoping that Tywin finds out and also that Arya stabs him or something but I also don't want either to happen.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 16-05-2012, 00:05:58
I loved this episode. Curious about what will happen to the bastard though. The situation in Qarth is getting... interesting to say the least and I truly enjoyed Tywin and Arya once again, I keep hoping that Tywin finds out and also that Arya stabs him or something but I also don't want either to happen.
Yes indeed.there conversations are rich yet simple enough for everyone to understand

(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/4179446_460s.jpg)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 21-05-2012, 10:05:16
Not sure if re-post but I dont follow this thread that closely because... dare I say it, I dont follow the series at all.

Leaving this here before I start running from all the buttclenched fanboys.

(http://i.imgur.com/mkK3b.jpg)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Lightning on 21-05-2012, 15:05:13
What, no valar morghulis?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 21-05-2012, 17:05:37
- Jon Snow's story starts to follow the book once again. Good.
- Rattleshirt looked really cool.

- No "valar murghulis", no coin, no Jaqen H'ghar changing his face.
- No Tyrion's chain.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 21-05-2012, 17:05:39
Lightning, Thorondor, guess the title of the last episode.


Valar Morghulis.
I guess we haven´t seen Jaqen for the last time.

Anyway, I really liked the episode. Rattleshirt is cool as f*ck with his bone-armour, I liked how they managed to get Quorin in again, Joffrey was absolutely laughable, Tyrions and Varys´ conversation was nice aswell and I already like seeing Brienne and Jaime together.

I´m absolutely looking forward to see next episode. On the other hand it´s rather sad that we have to wait another year for the next season. Therefore I´m starting to re-read ASOIAF. I hope that´ll help me pass some time.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Paasky on 21-05-2012, 20:05:21
Maybe it's just the 2½ rum'n'cokes I had during this episode, but it seems to get better & better. Hell this one didn't have more than a bit of side boob in it!

The more I read this thread the less I want to read the books. Almost every movie/show made from a book I've seen so far has either skipped most of the book (Rum Diary) or copied it so nothing is a surprise (H2G2 tv-series) so I'd like to keep the suspense alive on this one.

Like this grand battle of Stark vs Lanister, if this was any other TV-series I'd already know the Starks would win, but here I have no idea. And I'd like to keep it that way.

Then again, there must be a shit-ton of stuff I'm missing as I've never read the books. Much like in the H2G2 movie (which I thought was great up until the last two minutes of it) the first half of the story was directly from the books, and the second half was new, but it was constantly peppered to references to the books. I was loving it all the way until the happy ending & Marvin saying "it's at the OTHER end of the universe" and the same might happen here too.

Then again I've heard the books aren't exactly easy reading, so I'll pass and read something else.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: gavrant on 22-05-2012, 00:05:27
Sorry guys, call me an unbeliever, a heretic or a witch, but the second season has too much talking to my taste. They talk and recollect past and exchange threats and glares and talk again, and it prevents something from happening. I think all events of 8 episodes could be easily packed in 4 episodes, with each episode focused on fewer plot lines.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kubador on 22-05-2012, 00:05:54
The first season had something more to it so far, I agree. Nevertheless the second season still has a very high standard.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 22-05-2012, 01:05:16
my way of viewing things like GoT is simple

i first watch the series, and i then read the books. And yes i know HBO skipped things from the books, but they are tied up with there 50 minute broadcasting limit. In wich HBO pulled off a clever move for dividing books into 2 seasons so it seems.

Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Gezoes on 22-05-2012, 11:05:33
It strikes me that travelling is rather swift for others, zoom! Theon especially. Yet Rob and Stannis take AGES to get anywhere. Where did the Red Witch and the demon go? Where the hell is Little Finger? Bit disappointed the Stark boys were still alive, but it's ok ;)

Grande series, pretty much everything out there pales in comparison. But a bit... stale at the moment. I.e.: I went to make coffee when she finally jumped her king of the North. That was the longest intro to sex I have ever heard. I'm sure Rob also doesn't remember it all. Yeah, yeah, blabski blabski, come here you!

I guess I prefer Wildlings 8)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 22-05-2012, 11:05:10
I think all events of 8 episodes could be easily packed in 4 episodes, with each episode focused on fewer plot lines.
Then the next series would make no sense whatsoever, or they would have to make some radical changes. They can barely explain everything as it is now.

Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Flyboy1942 on 22-05-2012, 23:05:37
Sorry guys, call me an unbeliever, a heretic or a witch, but the second season has too much talking to my taste. They talk and recollect past and exchange threats and glares and talk again, and it prevents something from happening. I think all events of 8 episodes could be easily packed in 4 episodes, with each episode focused on fewer plot lines.

Yeah...the thing is A Song of Ice and Fire is primarily about the characters; how events are set up by people, and how they impact people. All of the talking is the mortar that holds together the bricks of major events. Without the talking and slow bits the show would be a shakey wobley heap of stones that couldnt hold up to curious children let alone Dragonfire.

Why has my well-constructed metaphor gone rambling about Dragons? Because a few episodes ago some of the characters were talking about Harrenhall (Where Arya and Tywin are) once holding the title of impenetrable, until the Targaryens melted the towers and shattered the walls with Dragons. This gives you some history, enhances the scenery and tone of the location, and builds the reader/viewer's respect for the power of these creatures.

Several times Littlefinger and Catelyn's childhood together is mentioned, alluded to, and brought up. What happened back then and the way they talk about it makes these characters into people. Then in later scenes, confrontations and arguments make more sense when you understand some of the thoughts that must be going through their minds.

The things people talk about make the events that are happening, or will happen way down the road, much more significant.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: gavrant on 23-05-2012, 01:05:37
I don't mind talking and slow bits per se, but I think the second season has too much talking, which states obvious things or tries to expand minor characters while we have 25 characters in 'Main cast' section for the season. Take last episode for example:
- Daenerys' "I don't leave my dragons" is quite predictable.
- Tyrion's "I love this game" chat with Varys, as if it wasn't clear before. Joffrey's overconfidence is not surprising too.
- The Onion Knight story doesn't add much. Overall, whole Stannis Baratheon plot line looks somewhat secondary, only as annoyance for King's Landing.
- Last but not least - "the longest intro to sex" as Gezoes called it. IMHO Robb's love story feels bogged and cliched, an attempt to attract female audience.

As a result, I have a feeling that one third (one half?) of 50 minutes is wasted.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Flyboy1942 on 23-05-2012, 07:05:49
The things people talk about make the events that are happening, or will happen way down the road, much more significant.

I really cant say anything more that wouldnt spoil something or another. As it is HBO leaves out and blows through a lot of dialog and content and events just so they can get to the VITAL stuff every season. Trust the ones who have read the books, it's worth it to enjoy and take in every moment.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 23-05-2012, 10:05:00
- Last but not least - "the longest intro to sex" as Gezoes called it. IMHO Robb's love story feels bogged and cliched, an attempt to attract female audience.
Robb wasn't a POV character in the book. The only thing the reader learned about Robb's campaign in the west was news and rumours in other people's chapters. Like all of the scenes completely made up by HBO, it just doesn't seem to fit. (Interesting to see that people who have not read the books seem to agree.) I guess they wanted to show more Robb and the war in the west, but I would probably have shown Greatjon Umber capturing the goldmines of Castamere instead... :P
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ts4EVER on 23-05-2012, 10:05:52
Draenerys becomes less and less likeable imo. Somehow that part of the series is not interesting at all and she comes off like a whiney bitch or even her brother ;). The rest is very good though.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 23-05-2012, 12:05:00
Unfortunately, in the coming books/seasons, she´s becoming even more entitled and megalomaniac. I guess, that´s what happens, when you´re a teenager princess/queen who suddenly has access to alot of power and responsibility at the same time, while coming from an old inbred family whose ancestors state of mind ranged from simply batshit crazy to really good. But yeah, TV-series Dany is way more crazy than book-Dany at this stage.


Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 23-05-2012, 13:05:36
Yeah I'm not really sure what HBO is doing with Dany. In the books she gets shit done and usually treats even her enemies in fair way. 'Fair' as being closer to Stark way than, dare I say, Bolton way.

And she is most definitely not "tainted" like Viserys, Aerys II and Maegor I. She is more like Rhaegar or Aegon V.

Rhaegar would have been a great king. :/

Edit: And speaking of Boltons, I wonder if we see Ramsay Snow in the next episode. I'm sure he'll be a well loved character.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Flyboy1942 on 23-05-2012, 14:05:37
*spoilers*

*spoilers*

I'm pretty sure the Robb scenes are so the unbooked viewers remember who he is, what hes doing, and understand his innocent romance that develops and causes him to choose love over duty and precipitate other events.

Would I have put those scenes in? No I'd have given the time to Tyrion's chain or something. But I understand it's cheaper and lends more clarity to show more Robb.

As for Dany, I'm a little surprised at the direction they went with her character too. I really liked reading her chapters in the books, especially when certain well-trained soldiers come into play. It seems like it wouldnt be hard to make her act like she did in the books, so HBO must have some reason, maybe to show her inner turmoil?

*spoilers*
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 24-05-2012, 22:05:42
If you don´t mind eventual spoilers and like to know (or maybe refresh your knowledge of) the history of GRRMs world, check out this Youtube-channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/SunMarquise). The owner has uploaded the "Complete Guide to Westeros" and the short clips tell the story of the ASOIAF world from the very beginning.
The animations are really, really nice and if you didn´t read the books yet give you a nice insight into the vast and rich lore.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Schneider on 24-05-2012, 22:05:56
Rhaegar would have been a great king. :/

If even Jaime thinks so, it sure must be true.  :)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 25-05-2012, 15:05:40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REasBBiJm00&feature=g-all-lik

well

its one way to promote the show
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Lightning on 25-05-2012, 17:05:35
Episode 19 preview!

DUH SPOILERS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=t-zW1673sSg)

Looks cool.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Gezoes on 25-05-2012, 18:05:08
At last! Death to the King! Take the city!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Fuchs on 25-05-2012, 23:05:23
Awesome, can barely wait. All the epic guys are in for the next episode. Not to mention the massive battle :)

Also became a true follower of House Mormont, I just love that family. Honest, noble, a bit crazy at times, smart and innovative. And no weird things like incest, claiming the throne or anything. Just a fucked up father and son relationship though.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Lightning on 26-05-2012, 00:05:39
Uhm... Ser Jorah ran away instead of facing Eddard Stark's justice when he was caught selling slaves. He caught a few poachers and tried to sell them to get money to buy his wife jewellery. How in the seven hells is that noble and honourable?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: NTH on 26-05-2012, 00:05:08
I don't mind talking and slow bits per se, but I think the second season has too much talking, which states obvious things or tries to expand minor characters while we have 25 characters in 'Main cast' section for the season. Take last episode for example:
- Daenerys' "I don't leave my dragons" is quite predictable.
- Tyrion's "I love this game" chat with Varys, as if it wasn't clear before. Joffrey's overconfidence is not surprising too.
- The Onion Knight story doesn't add much. Overall, whole Stannis Baratheon plot line looks somewhat secondary, only as annoyance for King's Landing.
- Last but not least - "the longest intro to sex" as Gezoes called it. IMHO Robb's love story feels bogged and cliched, an attempt to attract female audience.

As a result, I have a feeling that one third (one half?) of 50 minutes is wasted.

Are you kidding? How else were we to know that there is a 16 titted God on the Summer Island. That is useful information, my friend.
This episode had me laughing , especially Bronn. His expression is cracking me up.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Fuchs on 26-05-2012, 01:05:45
Uhm... Ser Jorah ran away instead of facing Eddard Stark's justice when he was caught selling slaves. He caught a few poachers and tried to sell them to get money to buy his wife jewellery. How in the seven hells is that noble and honourable?
I never said honourable, re-read. And I know what happened, but he chose living over dying (like Tyrion) and thus he is smart. And the whole thing with his former wife is something I put in the category 'a bit crazy sometimes'. As is his obsession with Dany.

Though can not deny the awesomeness of House Mormont, the Bears of Westeros!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 26-05-2012, 01:05:17
Maege Mormont is great. Don't know about the others... I guess Jeor is a good Lord Commander.



Edit:
(http://media.riemurasia.net/albumit/m10225/983300952.jpg)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Lightning on 26-05-2012, 12:05:19
The playlist of the Season 2 soundtrack has been released, with some spoilers. Seems season 2 will end with the prologue of A Storm of Swords. To be honest, I wondered why A Clash of Kings didn't end with this when I read it.

And there are some other cool things on the soundtrack, like The Rains of Castamere (http://wicnet.tumblr.com/post/23655576387/tywinning-the-rains-of-castomere-by-the).
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 26-05-2012, 16:05:37
And there are some other cool things on the soundtrack, like The Rains of Castamere (http://wicnet.tumblr.com/post/23655576387/tywinning-the-rains-of-castomere-by-the).
That's something we will hear quite a lot during next series... ;)

This is still better version, in my opinion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0xu7P-zzsk

(Spoilers in comments, beware.)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 27-05-2012, 22:05:51
If you ever feel like cooking one of the many recipes mentioned in ASOIAF, check out the Inn at the Crossroads (http://www.innatthecrossroads.com/). You get hungry just by looking at the pics. :D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Tuco on 28-05-2012, 09:05:04
Latest episode... mind=blown.
Probably not as big a surprise for those who read the book (i haven't) but wow... 7 more days till next episode fml
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Lightning on 28-05-2012, 14:05:52
Currently listening to the season 2 soundtrack while my computer is converting episode 9 to .avi so I can watch it on my TV (it can't read .mkv over the network).

EDIT:

Wow, that was awesome.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 28-05-2012, 17:05:46
The battle itself felt a bit cheap-ish at some points, but the Wildfire looked great. The scenes inside Meagors Holdfast reminded me quite alot of a certain movie, also depicting the end of a ruler inside a bunker. Very well done.
The ending was phenomenal, Tywin is, as cruel as he sometimes is, a truely capable man. No wonder the realm blossomed when he was Hand to Aerys II.
(http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/2116/1338195676279.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeDKroU8P4c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeDKroU8P4c)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 28-05-2012, 17:05:10
Wildefire looked indeed great, and so did Ghost-Renly ;D

Too bad the chain was missing.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Paasky on 28-05-2012, 17:05:40
Watching that episode with everything else blacked out (windows, 2nd screen, door) and just after a hefty meal and plenty of beer = awesome. Every episode of this series is like a good movie, I love it.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 28-05-2012, 18:05:49
i just passed the scene with the wildfire

(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4lm7dphlb1r32rst.jpg)

SPOILER ALERT
But you might wanna see this
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120528100538/gameofthrones/images/4/41/Wildfire_explosion.jpg

Just finished the episode. an absolutely fantastic episode. Finnaly a battle. One wich was very very well done considering there budget
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 28-05-2012, 19:05:21
This was the Old Man's episode so of course it was the best ^^
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Fuchs on 28-05-2012, 20:05:55
Another episode of great mixed feelings for me. On the one side I was cheering for Tyrion, Bronn and Varys but on the other side I cheered for Stannis and Davos. But the appearance of Tywin made up for that. And I actually had to google what that whole Baratheon knight thing was about. Renly's armour, I miss Renly. But the one person that won this episode was.. Sandor Clegane. "Fuck the King!". I shall miss his presence in King's Landing.

Anyone else who liked the 'contrast of Kings' in this episode? Joffrey fleeing the scene while Stannis was the first guy off the boat and on the ladder.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: gavrant on 28-05-2012, 20:05:45
Ugh, nothing happened again...

</kidding>

Best episode of the 2nd season so far.

One thing bothers me, the same as in LOTR Two Towers: why spend time and resources on mighty fortifications if it takes half an hour to overrun them anyway?

And I'd prefer that Tywin waited behind the doors for a couple of minutes  ;)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Gezoes on 28-05-2012, 20:05:41
Wildfire explosion, the THeTA0123 said it:

(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4lm7dphlb1r32rst.jpg)

I had a Untergang feeling as well. For a minute, I thought the wine was poisoned when she encouraged our little flower to drink and drink.

Wow. What a rush. Dinklage was exquisite once more. But otherwise: Nooooooooooo! You WILL burn someday Geoffrey, you WILL BURN!! ;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Fuchs on 28-05-2012, 20:05:44
Gavrant, screen time is not real time. Maybe the battle took 5 hours, you don't know. Also it had been said that the Mud Gate was crap, weak and old.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: gavrant on 28-05-2012, 22:05:45
Even if it took 5 hours, it's still quite impressive how easy Stannis got foothold on the walls and King's Landing caught a defeatism, with no surprise factor and the Mud Gate's weakness predicted by Tyrion.

...

Are you kidding? How else were we to know that there is a 16 titted God on the Summer Island. That is useful information, my friend.
This episode had me laughing , especially Bronn. His expression is cracking me up.
What you gonna do with 16 of them? Even 3 look erm... strange (see Total Recall with Schwarzenegger as example).
And Bronn for president!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Paasky on 28-05-2012, 22:05:55
Have you been paying any attention to the story so far? King's Landing had barely any defenders and the Mud Gate was woefully inadequate to withstand any real attack. I find no strangeness that "the largest fleet in the 7 kingdoms" could almost breach the weakest point of a huge city defended by a few archers & the kings guard.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 28-05-2012, 22:05:29
One thing bothers me, the same as in LOTR Two Towers: why spend time and resources on mighty fortifications if it takes half an hour to overrun them anyway?
The usual way to take a fortified city is after a long siege. Thick and tall wall prevents enemy breaking them and/or throwing burning or otherwise nasty things over the wall. And it should be noted that a wall is only as strong as its weakest gatehouse. The last two kings were a mad man and a drunken fool, the maintenance of walls/gates was not high on their list.

And then there is the fast (and costly) way to capture a city. Storming the walls. This usually works if the attacker has much stronger army, for it is relatively easy to defend walls even with a small number of soldiers.

Stannis had the numbers and he knew the walls and its gates.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Biiviz on 28-05-2012, 22:05:57
Um, and Helm's Deep as gavrant mentioned defeated in "half an hour" took tens of thousands of Uruk-Hai, plus the gunpowder filled mines that blew up the wall, and still it took until dawn to reach the keep.


Plus, y'know, it's fiction.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: gavrant on 29-05-2012, 00:05:24
At one point Matthos, son of Davos, mentioned balance of forces as "five to one". Was it "three to one" or "four to one" after wildfire, it still doesn't sound like "King's Landing had barely any defenders". Also, why there were no measures to strengthen the gate, build barricades or something?

But it seems I'm becoming a little bit nitpicky...

Anyway, I just read synopsis of the battle as it's described in the book and it feels to me... don't know how to call it... more logical? It's time to put reading of the books on my To Do list.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Eglaerinion on 29-05-2012, 09:05:38
Without the combined armies of Highgarden and Casterly Rock King's Landing would have still fallen to Stannis, Tyrion managed to delay Stannis long enough for his father to arrive.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Biiviz on 29-05-2012, 16:05:45
Aw, damn. Just spent about an hour reading the wikis etc. about all the houses and stuff. I'm pretty hooked and might have to get the books after all.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 29-05-2012, 16:05:47
Average watchers (live) are still rising and the goverment of northen ireland spended 6.5 million funding the show, wich in turn revenued 45 million for northen ireland. Tourism is also boosting because of the series, and GoT will probaly recieve more funding(thus better battles!)

And i do not mind that people discuss books vs series. But i hate the crusade Book fanboys are currently doing by posting spoilers of characters everywhere
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 30-05-2012, 23:05:11
(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/4324815_460s.jpg)


Motivational speech, you are doing it right
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: djinn on 31-05-2012, 08:05:23
Great episode.
Glad they didn't change scene to some other people. it would have been so anticlimatic.

Still, i think they struggled to pull it off.

Battle was big and bad, but I could see they expected it to be epic, but couldn't quite make it so.

Also, felt the insta-glib could have been actually more graphic if cuts were less that. I mean a brutal cut that didn't actually slice a man completely in half or a hack to the leg that simply cut half-way through would better represent, IMO.

I actually had tears in my ears from the music and unfolding action. I really never knew I had emotional stock in the characters, especially Tyrion, until now.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 01-06-2012, 01:06:31
(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/4339475_460s.jpg)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 01-06-2012, 18:06:53
For those who want to get more insight into the ASOIAF-lore, here´s (http://www.scribd.com/doc/23619338/G-R-R-Martin-The-Hedge-Knight) GRRMs "The Hedgeknight" to read. It´s set around 100 years before the events of AGoT, so it should be relatively spoiler-free.
it should be even interesting for those who haven´t read the books, and maybe it´ll convince some to start reading the series. Not that there are any real reasons not to do this. ;)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 02-06-2012, 21:06:41
tommorow is season 2 finale :(
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Tuco on 02-06-2012, 21:06:16
fml
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Biiviz on 04-06-2012, 10:06:38
Waiting for season finale to reach 100%.

(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh298/invalidgriffin/random/tinktinktinktinktink.gif)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Paasky on 04-06-2012, 11:06:00
Waiting for season finale to reach 100%.

(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh298/invalidgriffin/random/tinktinktinktinktink.gif)
Oh I'll wait until it's dark(ish, it's summer after all) and get a few beers as company.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 04-06-2012, 12:06:14
Waiting for season finale to reach 100%.

Oh I'll wait until it's dark(ish, it's summer after all) and get a few beers as company.
So you wait till September? ;)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Paasky on 04-06-2012, 12:06:38
;D Nah, 11pm & curtains ;)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 04-06-2012, 12:06:20
Good episode, good season finale, but...


...no Bastard of Bolton.
...no Meera and Jojen Reed.
...no original House of the Undying-prophecies.


On the other hand, I like how they put all the loose ends together but at the same time provide good cliffhangers.
Quorin Halfhand has become the martyr he was in the books, Jon made it into the wildlings camp and is about to meet Mance Rayder, Dany starts to move on from Quarth, Theon will pay oh so much, Tyrion got a nasty battle scar and the next season will bring even more Jamie and Brienne scenes.
The Others looked different than I´ve imagined them, but still alright and promise to be an interesting challenge. The ending was a bit odd, though, since it seems like Sam is now trapped in the middle of the Wight army. Why did they ignore him? Because he´s a craven? The others don´t care if anyone´s a craven, they hate all living things so why did they ignore him? o0

Too bad this season is already over and we have to wait another year untill the next season airs..does anyone know if they´ve started filming, already?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Fuchs on 04-06-2012, 15:06:21
Homer, I only read the first 4 lines of your post to avoid spoilers but I want to say... Do not worry about characters.

The Bastard and the Reeds will be casted for season 3. Keep in mind this is TV; they can not hire 500,000 actors for every character in the books.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 04-06-2012, 16:06:26
i have found my allegiance
KHALEESI!



and my god the ending gave me HUGE fucking chills

One horn 'Jon is back"
two horns 'WILDLINGS*swords

and then that Third horn.......

So it seems that the one on the horse is a White walker. the race. And the ones being all zombie like are wights who are reanimated by them, right?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 04-06-2012, 17:06:16
Good to hear that they´re not leaving out vital characters. It´s probably that they lack the time to introduce them with only 10 episodes per season. So Season 3 and 4 will hopefully iron that out.
Tehta, yes, right. The Others are an ancient and evil race. Some say they´re wizards, but it hasn´t really been revealed what exactly they are.
They hate every living thing on this world and reanimate corpses, both human and animal, as their armies. These undead are known as Wights and they basically swell the ranks of the Others and fulfill their will (that is, to kill every living thing).
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 04-06-2012, 17:06:35

So it seems that the one on the horse is a White walker. the race. And the ones being all zombie like are wights who are reanimated by them, right?
Yes, the mounted leaders were 'Others' (or white walkers as the wildlings say) and the zombies are wights.*

The Others looked quite nice; white skin, blue eyes, crystal swords... The only thing missing was their "mirror" armour. Maybe we'll see that later.


*Note the wights in Skyrim. One of the many A Song of Ice And Fire references in the game. ;)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 04-06-2012, 17:06:57
Life is making sense now


HBO shut up and take my money for season 3.
lets hope Season 2 DVD Box aint so far out
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Fuchs on 04-06-2012, 21:06:12
Ha, I was right about Xaro Xhoan Daxos, all a giant ruse! And the more I see Jorah, the more I am a fan of him.

Very sad to see how they took everything from Tyrion, I sort of expected Tywin to at least acknowledge his efforts. Not in public but at least a 'I hate your guts but good job, son.' maybe next season..
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Gezoes on 04-06-2012, 21:06:55
"Drakaris..."
"Hmm? What the.. Oh? Ah!! Aaaah!!! AAAH!!!"

I want one ;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 05-06-2012, 21:06:10
Filming of season 3 starts this summer already. Several main characters have already signed up for 2 extra seasons (its like a contract)

The season finale was watched by 4.2 live viewers in the US alone!

The viewers per episode of season 2=
1:3.8 million
2: 3.79 million
3: 3.7 million
4: 3.6 million
5: 3.9 million
6: 3.86 million
7: 3.7 million
8: 3.86 million
9: 3.384 million (The most awesome episode had the least viewers...)
10: 4.2 million

This gives an average of 3.79 million viewers per episode.
Season 1 had an average viewership of 2.49 million per episode. A whopping increase!

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/timeline/b9cf8c51e0cb1ba81c6c89228cbac77d.png)


i so hope that this is the begin for a series with a long running timeline.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Fuchs on 05-06-2012, 21:06:52
The airing of Blackwater was at the same day as some sort of holiday I believe, it just decreased the amount of viewers immensely. And this is only HBO USA if I recall correctly.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Paasky on 05-06-2012, 22:06:07
The airing of Blackwater was at the same day as some sort of holiday I believe, it just decreased the amount of viewers immensely. And this is only HBO USA if I recall correctly.
Memorial Day Eve IIRC.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 05-06-2012, 23:06:30

i so hope that this is the begin for a series with a long running timeline.
The story is only about to start now. Series 1 and 2 had these big "shocking" moments like Ned dying and Winterfell burning, but the next series is going to have one of those in every episode. Some serious stuff incoming.

I just home that they put some more emphasis on the two main storylines, to this point everything else has quite left them in shadow...
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 05-06-2012, 23:06:16
The airing of Blackwater was at the same day as some sort of holiday I believe, it just decreased the amount of viewers immensely. And this is only HBO USA if I recall correctly.
yes both are correct
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Lightning on 09-06-2012, 15:06:31
The story is only about to start now. Series 1 and 2 had these big "shocking" moments like Ned dying and Winterfell burning, but the next series is going to have one of those in every episode. Some serious stuff incoming.
I've got the paperback edition and A Storm of Swords is cut into two books of each like 600 pages. The first book is indeed quite awesome, but I started with the second book this week and... Wow.

I have this odd feeling that I really want to know what happens next (or rather what just happened exactly) combined with the feeling that I really don't want to read on, because I'm afraid it will only get worse.  :-\

I'm quite sure that it will.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Gezoes on 11-06-2012, 15:06:29
Picked up the first five books for 39,95 today  :)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 11-06-2012, 23:06:59
how painfull

i already miss GOT

season 2 final was so awesome
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6yoS3LFIFM

and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgNVZ3ki-ng&feature=related
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: NTH on 14-06-2012, 11:06:05
Picked up the first five books for 39,95 today  :)

Got the same deal here. The books add some much more details, I must give up on sleep comings weeks :-)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Fuchs on 14-06-2012, 14:06:39
I bought the first four, still waiting for them to arrive.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Gezoes on 21-06-2012, 01:06:56
Just a bit into the first book, and rewatched a bit of GoT 01x01. I picked up a lot of extra things shown in the series now. Winks, glances, surroundings, I didn't catch at first. The books make sure I end up in bed on time too.

On the one hand it's a pity I already saw two seasons, so imagination has been either filled in or spoiled. On the other hand, it's very nice having the series in the back of ones mind while reading. An extra guide. I find it all goes hand in hand quite well 8)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 21-06-2012, 19:06:09
you know i was thinking


i have started to re-watch season 1 with the DVDs i bought. And i just cant get out of my head=They really should do a spin-off about roberts rebellion

Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 21-06-2012, 20:06:44
you know i was thinking


i have started to re-watch season 1 with the DVDs i bought. And i just cant get out of my head=They really should do a spin-off about roberts rebellion


Not going to happen.

1) Martin should write everything, he is not going to allow them to make up stuff.
2) There is a huge possibility that showing what really happened with Rhaegar/Lyanna/Robert/Ned would spoil the last two books.

Tales of Dunk and Egg, however, would make a nice spin-off.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Fuchs on 21-06-2012, 20:06:28
I am loving these books, halfway through A Game of Thrones now. Yes, I know what happens every chapter but it's different, very different. And so many things to learn.

Hodor's real name is Walder for example.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: NTH on 22-06-2012, 20:06:38
I am loving these books, halfway through A Game of Thrones now. Yes, I know what happens every chapter but it's different, very different. And so many things to learn.

Hodor's real name is Walder for example.

Hahaha exactly the same thing I picked up too. The TV shows seriously did not spoil the reading fun.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 24-06-2012, 10:06:17
book 1 is almost finished. Amazing piece of work!


does anyone know where you can buy actuall flags of the Houses of GOT?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 29-06-2012, 13:06:39

Write Like the Wind!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7lp3RhzfgI

;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Lightning on 29-06-2012, 14:06:31
"and six page descriptions of every last meal"

Hehe, too true.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Gezoes on 29-06-2012, 15:06:24
So, Littlefinger's actual name is Petyr (B.) and nicknamed after his family's estates on the smallest of the Fingers peninsula. He was teased a lot because of his thin and small size, yet, he laughs at them all now. I also don't remember the series mentioning him having a crush on Catelyn Stark at the time she was supposed to marry Ned's brother Brandon. One can tell, but I don't think the series mention it explicitely.

Great book so far. Just got to the dagger supposedly belonging to Tyrion.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 29-06-2012, 15:06:46
Littlefinger actually had (and still has) a crush on Catelyn. He challenged Brandon Stark to a duell when he heard he´d marry Cat. This has led to him being banished by Lord Hoster Tully.
He´s playing "the game" to gain personal benefits and is actually really good at it, which makes him really unpredictable and dangerous to those around him. Not really a likeable, but a highly impressive character, especially when you consider where he comes from.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Gezoes on 29-06-2012, 16:06:24
Ah yes, the duel was new to the reader too. Well, I'm often an exception, I guess I share some things with Littlefinger. I like him a lot. He kinda has that justification to be 'vengeful and evil', I love that :D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Fuchs on 29-06-2012, 16:06:03
I hate Littlefinger, too selfish and a complete ass.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 29-06-2012, 16:06:06
I wouldn´t say that he´s truly evil. He´s more out for personal gains and does everything to improve his own position, including betraying and manipulating those who trust him.
While Varys for example claims to do everything he does for the sake of the realm, Littlefinger is motivated by gaining as much power as possible by any means necessary.
This of course, doesn´t make him a "good guy" but still a highly interesting and fascinating character. It´s lots of fun to follow him but I wouldn´t want to be in his crosshairs if I were an ASoIaF character. ^^
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Lightning on 29-06-2012, 16:06:11
Littlefinger is probably the character I like least. He creeps me out. Everything he says are just lies to further his goals. And while in that respect he's quite like Cersei, at least Cersei is predictable. Littlefinger is not. He's probably the most dangerous character in the books.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ts4EVER on 29-06-2012, 16:06:41
He pulls all the strings.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Fuchs on 29-06-2012, 16:06:09
Lots of people seem to prefer Littlevinger above Varys. I personally just adore Varys. Of course that realm talk is bullshit, but the conversation near the dragon skulls makes it all clearer.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Gezoes on 29-06-2012, 16:06:56
Littlefinger is probably the character I like least. He creeps me out. Everything he says are just lies to further his goals. And while in that respect he's quite like Cersei, at least Cersei is predictable. Littlefinger is not. He's probably the most dangerous character in the books.

Ah, but that's where most of his victims fall into his trap where they see Cersei's coming. Not everything is a lie. Blackmail doesn't work that well if the leverage is a lie. He's too smart that let that happen ;D

Varys is a bit like him, but more focused on survival, not so much gain. If you make people really like you, they find it hard to meddle with you. Littlefinger cares less about that, he's got a castle full of leverage to protect him. I don't trust either of them hehe, but I sure as hell don't trust Varys, it's a front, a mask.

Man, slow day at work, I should have brought part I ;)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 29-06-2012, 16:06:17
Varys follows quite another goal.
Let´s just say, that there´s another contestor for the Iron Throne, one who has a better claim than all Lannister-offspring and Cersei. And Varys wants him on the throne, because he´s convinced he´d be a better ruler than the alst few kings. ;)

Speaking of kings. I´m not sure if Rhaegar Targaryen would´ve been such a great king, as some always say. Too bad we will never find out...
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Fuchs on 29-06-2012, 18:06:20
Too kind perhaps, like Aegon the Unlikely.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 29-06-2012, 18:06:11
arya on the throne please
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Lightning on 30-06-2012, 14:06:39
You'd have a blood-thirsty homicidal ten-year-old on the throne?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Fuchs on 30-06-2012, 14:06:36
Well a good, honest, efficient and chivalrous King would be a bit boring, right?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 30-06-2012, 15:06:03
We saw how much joy the reign of Joffrey I. has brought over Westeros and its smallfolk. :D

Robert I. reign on the other hand was relatively peaceful except for the odd rebellion or two, but nearly ruined the realm, so both have their pros and cons.

Pretty good version of the House Targaryen family tree (http://awoiaf.westeros.org/images/c/c6/House_Targaryen_Family_tree.jpg). Really usefull if you want to know more about the former rulers of Westeros. Might contain some minor spoilers, but also cool pics.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 30-06-2012, 18:06:16
Daemon Blackfyre (and his line), Brynden Rivers and Aegon V have all sweet sweet lore written about them, but sadly it would most likely spoil something. Especially Brynden Rivers' :/
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kubador on 01-07-2012, 12:07:13
I'll just leave it here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An-WADoVOx4
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 01-07-2012, 13:07:33
Some information about characters who's appearance in series 3 is confirmed:

- Princess Shireen, the daughter of King Stannis.
- Meera Reed, the daughter of Howland Reed, the lord of Greywater Watch of the Neck. Lord Howland is a loyal ally of Ned Stark and one of his best friends.
- Jojen "Little Grandfather" Reed, Meera's little brother.
- Brynden "The Blackfish" Tully, younger brother of Lord Hoster Tully. Lord Hoster is Lady Catelyn's father.
- Edmure Tully, son of Hoster Tully, younger brother of Lady Catelyn.
- Mance Rayder, the King-Beyond-the-Wall
- Olenna "Queen of Thorns" Tyrell
- Beric Dondarrion, leader of the Brotherhood Without Banners. Ned Stark sent him to arrest The Mountain in    A Game of Thrones.
- Thoros of Myr, a red priest and member of the Brotherhood Without Banners. Was the fist to go over the walls of Pyke during Balon Greyjoy's first rebellion. Fights with a burning sword.
- Tormund Giantsbane, a chieftain amongst the free men and part of Mance Rayder's "court".
- Vargo "The Goat" Hoat, leader of the Brave Companions sellsword company (also known as Bloody    Mummers behind their backs). Should not ride a horse in the series.

Important characters still missing are most notably Lem, Tom O'Sevens, Zollo, Qyburn and pretty much everyone from Astapor.

Otherwise I'm quite happy about the casting at the moment.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 01-07-2012, 13:07:44
Well still an early list. Filming hassent started yet, it begins in late july, end of august
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Fuchs on 01-07-2012, 22:07:36
I look really forward to seeing the Tully's in the show. I loved Brynden in the first book.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 01-07-2012, 22:07:53
The Blackfish is cool indeed.

Seriously can't wait for the shenanigans of Lord Beric and Thoros. I also hope that we see the ghost of High Heart.

I'm just worried that with all the problems they are having with horses, Vargo Hoat's mount will be a pain ;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Gezoes on 01-07-2012, 23:07:51
Who? What? You have a thread for that.

Casting is ok, but PLEASE keep out the spoilers. Thank you.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Fuchs on 01-07-2012, 23:07:08
How are names spoilers? If you had watched the show and paid attention you would've known about most of these people.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 02-07-2012, 10:07:21
Also, really looking forward to see Tormund and the Queen of Thorns "in action". Especially the first is one of my favourite Wildling charaters. Har!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Gezoes on 02-07-2012, 11:07:36
How are names spoilers? If you had watched the show and paid attention you would've known about most of these people.

For those who read (all) the books, these names may or may not be well-known. For others, they are not, some don't even read the books at all. I'm halfway through the first book and slowly rewatching. Some names may be epic, we don't know yet, and they often flash by too quickly on the tv-series to fully register, while you go: "Oh, great, That will be cool. Pity I already know what will happen."

Why is it so hard for people that have read the series to gather on their own forums and threads, and not spoil things for these annoying people like me invading 'their' Westeros. Pretty hard I guess, and yes, how dare we invade 'their' lands. In this thread, we can discuss up to the latest episode, speculate, and sure, casting for the next season. I don't mind that. If a name pops up, so be it. What I do not like is big hints at their roles, but god forbid if we say that. The pack of patronizing direwolves will descent. Most of our mods being part of that group doesn't help.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 02-07-2012, 14:07:21
Where are the spoiler if I may ask?

The casting information comes from fan sites, wikis and news sites OF THE TELEVISION SERIES.

If you do not want to know anything about series 3, I suggest that you stay away from ANY forums or site dedicated to the TV series, because, by the gods, there are casting news and discussion on each and every one of them.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Fuchs on 02-07-2012, 14:07:07
How are names spoilers? If you had watched the show and paid attention you would've known about most of these people.

For those who read (all) the books, these names may or may not be well-known. For others, they are not, some don't even read the books at all. I'm halfway through the first book and slowly rewatching. Some names may be epic, we don't know yet, and they often flash by too quickly on the tv-series to fully register, while you go: "Oh, great, That will be cool. Pity I already know what will happen."

Why is it so hard for people that have read the series to gather on their own forums and threads, and not spoil things for these annoying people like me invading 'their' Westeros. Pretty hard I guess, and yes, how dare we invade 'their' lands. In this thread, we can discuss up to the latest episode, speculate, and sure, casting for the next season. I don't mind that. If a name pops up, so be it. What I do not like is big hints at their roles, but god forbid if we say that. The pack of patronizing direwolves will descent. Most of our mods being part of that group doesn't help.
What the hell?  :-\ Are we even reading the same posts? We must be since you actually quote me and then give me another quote which I never said. What is wrong with you?..

We are discussing up to the latest episode and what Season 3 will bring. Thorondor posted something about Season 3 casting, which is about the SERIES, that's the topic what this thread is about! I am almost finished with book 1 and I just state that I really liked Brynden Tully in it and that I can not wait to see him in Season 3. That is not a spoiler, that is not elitist behaviour, that is just stating my happiness about Season 3. It should make YOU happy too since now you may realize that the Blackfish is an awesome guy who will make Season 3 even better than it could be.

And all the other bits make me more puzzled, are you on acid or crack?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Lightning on 13-07-2012, 22:07:44
Just finished A Feast for Crows and I'm terribly confused. Was it supposed to be confusing or did I miss something?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Fuchs on 13-07-2012, 23:07:07
I have heard similar reactions of other people about AFFC. Now plunged into ACOK which is very refreshing after AGOT which was so similar to the series. Good read.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 15-07-2012, 12:07:24
New cast members for the upcoming Season 3. (http://tv.yahoo.com/photos/game-of-thrones-meet-the-new-faces-of-season-3-slideshow/nathalie-emmanuel-photo-1342221460.html)

Pretty good choices so far. The choices for the Reeds are pretty good, IMHO.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Lightning on 15-07-2012, 15:07:33
Are those confirmed? Mackenzie Crook as Orell seems rather odd to me.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: NTH on 15-07-2012, 15:07:39
Just finished A Feast for Crows and I'm terribly confused. Was it supposed to be confusing or did I miss something?

Have not read it yet, just begun a Storm of Swords but confusing how? Switching back and for in the timeline or ...
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Lightning on 15-07-2012, 15:07:14
Have not read it yet, just begun a Storm of Swords but confusing how? Switching back and for in the timeline or ...
The relation between the prologue and the rest of the book kind of eludes me (to say it without mentioning any spoilers). Other than that though, the book is also strange because it only has half the characters in it. Instead of dividing the story chronologically over 2 books, GRRM divided the story geographically.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 15-07-2012, 16:07:05
GRRM explained in the end of Feast why he split Feast and Dance that way and in the last chapters of Dance the storyline continues chronologically. He says that it would´ve been just too confusing to skip from all sorts of different places, so he limited Feast on the south, Iron Islands and Kings Landing.
Also, characters from Feasts prologue later appear in Dance IIRC, leaving quite some room for a good ammount of speculations.


Spoiler!

Speculations about that guy Pate, the Faceless Man who killed him and who is, as some believe Jaquen etc.

EDIT: I´ve read that the cast has been confirmed at ComicCon, so I think it´s official.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 15-07-2012, 16:07:07
Yeah, the prologue of AFFC is relevant to something that happens in ADWD.

About the casting... most of it look really nice. Especially the Reeds. Glad to see Anguy, and of course Thoros and Lord Beric.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: NTH on 20-07-2012, 20:07:06
Can we please .. please .. pretty please have the Unsullied as a faction in FH2. We can make them believable somehow...
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 20-07-2012, 21:07:06
fuck


Went to the bookstore to get the next book
forgot how it looked like
accidentlly read the backside of a feast for crows and read a spoiler

Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 20-07-2012, 21:07:23
Noob!

PS: *Crows
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Lightning on 20-07-2012, 22:07:38
Yes, seriously, A Dance with Dragons has it too. Spoils one of the biggest things in A Storm of Swords. Do not read the text on the back of the books. It's not in the middle somewhere either. It's the first 6 words on the backside.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: ajappat on 20-07-2012, 22:07:41
I don't read back sides of any books nowdays. Most of time they will have enough spoilers that you can skip first 80% of pages.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Flyboy1942 on 20-07-2012, 23:07:22
Same thing with trailers for movies. Some reveal THE ENTIRE MOVIE.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Biiviz on 02-08-2012, 19:08:06
Game of Thrones Season 2 RPG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63lE2ns_vUY

(As played on a N64)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Biiviz on 02-08-2012, 19:08:56
Oh, and spoiler alert.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 02-08-2012, 22:08:15
So where do i buy this awesome game?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 19-08-2012, 22:08:22
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEg4SEch27w

Thank you Simon.


Edit: Oh, and I stumbled upon this amusing comic about Jon Connington and Prince Rhaegar. Reminds me a bit of those Scandinavia-comics. I don't think that this piece of lore has been explained in the series, so this might only open to those who have read the novels. There is absolutely nothing spoilery about this, but I'll still post is as a link.

http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2011/214/1/3/stop_trying_to_fight_my_wife_by_an_jing-d42rubu.png
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 22-08-2012, 22:08:06
http://winteriscoming.net/2012/04/the-finances-of-game-of-thrones/

This is why i love HBO

They invest more money, and they get out more money in the end. S3 budget is also increased aswel

The DVD sales alone where appearntly enough to make profit
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 22-08-2012, 23:08:52
So the old man can write even more ridiculous stuff into his episode, brilliant!

Hmm... I wonder which one he will do this time.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 24-08-2012, 20:08:29
book 2 halfway done!

i really miss this show

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7L2PVdrb_8

the show is fantastic, but ye
the book is a that bit better ;)

also

(http://blogs-images.forbes.com/erikkain/files/2012/04/game_of_thrones_13354464565156.jpg)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Fuchs on 24-08-2012, 23:08:54
In one of the later episodes there's a basketball match, at the end two players walk out next to each other, Young and Griff. DO NOT GOOGLE THIS! Those who know about the true ruler of Westeros will know what I mean.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 04-09-2012, 17:09:31
(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/5266006_460s.jpg)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oNpmSAvpGQ&feature=g-all-u
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 02-11-2012, 21:11:23
(http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/21142_10151128519792734_1596188921_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 19-11-2012, 19:11:44
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vsmUpYIA99o

small little teaser
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: th_battleaxe on 21-12-2012, 16:12:00
just noticed on facebook that they'll be making a Game of Thrones beer, called Iron Throne
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 30-01-2013, 18:01:54
New season 3 pictures, introducing new and old characters:
http://skyatlantic.sky.com/game-of-thrones/game-of-thrones-season-3-pictures/1 (http://skyatlantic.sky.com/game-of-thrones/game-of-thrones-season-3-pictures/1)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 30-01-2013, 18:01:23
Ygritte! <3

yes this is looking good!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 30-01-2013, 19:01:14
Dondarlion looks 20 year older than in series 1 ;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 30-01-2013, 20:01:08
Dondarlion looks 20 year older than in series 1 ;D
Well, being a guerilla fighter with certain "unnatural aspects" surely comes with a price. ^^
I also really like the actors of the Reeds, especially Jojens, who has that "grandfatherly" look as described in the books. Can´t wait to finally see Season 3!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ts4EVER on 30-01-2013, 20:01:51
Meera Reed is very pretty.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Lightning on 30-01-2013, 21:01:23
Meera Reed is very pretty.
If you're into dudes...
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ts4EVER on 30-01-2013, 21:01:06
Well if they look like that I might risk it.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Tuco on 30-01-2013, 21:01:18
Meera Reed is very pretty.

Yea thats a man.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ts4EVER on 30-01-2013, 21:01:05
Well, maybe this is some kind of inside joke I'm not getting, but a quick wikipedia search indicates that Ellie Kendrick is indeed female.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 30-01-2013, 21:01:33
(http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/ellie-kendrick-180x2601_2872.jpg)

Looks female to me
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Lightning on 30-01-2013, 21:01:24
Guess it's just the one picture then.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 30-01-2013, 21:01:53
(http://static.tvfanatic.com/images/gallery/ellie-kendrick-as-meera-reed_652x981.jpg)

Looks female to me
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ts4EVER on 30-01-2013, 21:01:15
Well she does look a bit like Orlando Bloom on that one, but he doesn't have external genitalia either.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Tuco on 30-01-2013, 22:01:27
Well then i stand corrected, guess its just her eyes or something. Dunno.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 22-02-2013, 23:02:30
http://youtu.be/lw6a28ael1o

Trailer for a trailer... ::)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Lightning on 23-02-2013, 09:02:36
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzI9v_B4sxw

Heheuheuhaheu.

Awesome.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 23-02-2013, 18:02:32
little extra seasoning fact=

every episode will be 57 minutes long, instead of 52 minutes.

While 5 minutes doesnt seem much, for the 10 episodes of season 3, this means 50 minutes of extra epicness :)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kubador on 24-02-2013, 01:02:17
So that's basically an eleventh episode :D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 24-02-2013, 19:02:10
Yeah. And HBO might consider making the episodes even longer in the future.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Eglaerinion on 26-02-2013, 19:02:58
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzI9v_B4sxw

Heheuheuhaheu.

Awesome.
Over 13 million views in a few days.

Maximum hype achieved.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 25-03-2013, 23:03:18
Prepare yourselves for Season 3 is coming!

Exten Trailer #1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1pbtBX9Kok

Trailer #2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4XSeW4B5Rg

War Preview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCQnSokNfXY

Beast Preview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfSXhMzWoA4

Enemies Preview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JUCQVQyQIw

Inside the Wildings (*giggle*): http://youtu.be/fT-24tKTIWk

"All of Us" Trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pR1kjJBE_s

2013 S3 Emmy Panel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkzodgRaze8

Jamie and Brienne Clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NfPfaKfxajo

Dany and MUH DRAGONS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWyeCEQmAG0

Tyrion and Cersei Clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9psdmBgjwU0
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 01-04-2013, 12:04:13
A very good episode. A strong season starter!

The Unsullied were quite amazing to behold!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 01-04-2013, 12:04:49
I missed Strong Belwas, too. Hope they´ll somehow include him later as he´s a pretty cool character. Otherwise the episode was rather slow, but I guess with the extra time it won´t be too bad. Visually the episode was a bit mixed, to be honest. Astapor didn´t look as impressive as I´ve imagined it and the Unsullied looked rather cheap. They reminded me a bit of warriors from those cheap 90s TV shows, like Xena or Hercules. The Westeros scenes were pretty good looking, though and I´m waiting for more scenes of the North!
Season 3 and 4 will have some pretty cool stuff coming, so I dearly hope they won´t f*ck it up!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 01-04-2013, 15:04:32
Poor slave master does not know that Daenerys understands his High Valyrian ;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Butcher on 01-04-2013, 16:04:41
Does cutting your balls of really make you a better warrior? I thought the opposite was the same. You might not have any other purpose left than to fight, but you turn into a fat, girlish, not so aggressive "man" who can´t gain muscles as fast. Not the best condition for a warrior.

Oh and dat nipple scene. :-X
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 01-04-2013, 17:04:14
I went :X with the nipple scene

Then a friend of mine she was like=YEAH YOU DONT NEED NIPPLES ANYWAY

then came the story regarding newborn slave babies.........
then she too went :X
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 01-04-2013, 17:04:10
In the book don't they kill puppies instead of babies?  Or do they do both?  because honestly I think the puppy story is sadder
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 01-04-2013, 17:04:41
In the book don't they kill puppies instead of babies?  Or do they do both?  because honestly I think the puppy story is sadder
Both.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 01-04-2013, 19:04:27
If they putted in puppy killing, HBO would be in serious trouble

Still

goddam budget
They did not do the battle of the fist. Just some screams and weapon clattering
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Lightning on 01-04-2013, 19:04:29
They don't just have to kill puppies. They get puppies when they begin their training and they have to raise them and take care of them - and then after two years or so they have to kill them. And killing a slave baby is what completes their training, if I remember correctly.

Anyway, I really enjoyed this episode. The dragons are looking awesome. The scene with Tyrion and Tywin was really great (better than I remembered it from the book), as was the scene with Kraznys mo Nakloz and Missandei.

One thing I did not like so much was the scenes with Samwell Tarly. I had really hoped they would show the fight on top of the fist of the first men. (Guess they left it out because of the budget. And it's really only in the book as a flashback, to be fair...) Also, I kind of missed Arya and Jaime and Brienne, but I suppose we'll see them next week.

And is it me or does Stannis look a lot different?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kubador on 01-04-2013, 20:04:33
I recently watched Rome from HBO so today was: Oh, hello Cesar. :)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 01-04-2013, 20:04:58

One thing I did not like so much was the scenes with Samwell Tarly. I had really hoped they would show the fight on top of the fist of the first men.

Indeed. In the book he sent the ravens D:

Also, in the books the Fist was an old, ruined hill/ring fort. And the location looks waaaaay off. It's almost like they moed the Fist 500 km to the north, in the Lands of Always Winter. In the books it is well within the Hunted Forest, and it didn't start to snow before the Others approached the hill.

The giants looked great. Now if we just could see their mounts ^^
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 01-04-2013, 22:04:29
I recently watched Rome from HBO so today was: Oh, hello Cesar. :)
Haha, my reaction too.  From Julius Caesar to a pants-wearing barbarian!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ts4EVER on 01-04-2013, 22:04:57
To me Stannis looked like he aged rapidly because of stress. He looked like a defeated man.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Eglaerinion on 02-04-2013, 12:04:50
That dress that Missandei was wearing. Made me uncomfortable in all the right places.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kubador on 04-04-2013, 14:04:02
Don't know if I should post this on 'jokh' thread but here it is :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1CLCOvZOh1o#!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 04-04-2013, 17:04:56
GAME OF THRONES GETS RENEWED FOR A FOURTH SEASON

http://winteriscoming.net/2013/04/hbo-renews-game-of-thrones-for-a-fourth-season/

Only 2 days after the first episode of S3, HBO renews GOT for a 4th season.
The season started was watched by 4.45 Million viewers. Thats 225 000 more viewers then the most watched episode so far(Season 2 finale)

Compared to the S2 opening episode(3.9 million) thats almost half a million more viewers!

Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 04-04-2013, 17:04:07
And no one is surprised :P
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: NTH on 04-04-2013, 17:04:01
Only 4.45 mil. Is that high by US standards? A football game is watched by 4 mil in the Netherlands alone.

Serie remains excellent. I was under the impression I only watched like 5 minutes when the credits rolled by.
Always interesting to see what gets adapted from the book to the show and what not. I wonder why Sam said he didn't send the Raven, when he did in the book, how does help the plot in the TV serie.
Also it would be more interesting to know that Daenerys pretended not to understand the slave traders language.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Eglaerinion on 04-04-2013, 22:04:15
4.45 million for a premium cable channel like HBO is pretty good. HBO doesn't really care when people watch it, as long as they watch it. For HBO the combined number of views on all their services is more important. They don't have commercials so the numbers on the first airing aren't as important. It was the Easter weekend though, and of course the Walking Dead season finale was on as well. So next week might get even better numbers.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 04-04-2013, 23:04:47
HBO and HBO on demand alone gave 12 million views for this episode. 4.45M live viewers is very very good for a Premium cable channel. The Show is also a hit international and the merchandise is selling very well. Even the DVD's sell very well.

This is diffrent when compared to AMC's The walking dead. TWD might have 12 million live viewers, AMC does not make that big profit from it. IIRC One Live viewer for AMC ment 0.66 Dollars for AMC, while a single live HBO viewer brought on average 3+ Dollars per viewer.
A show like boardwalk empire has an equal budget simular to TWD and has less "live viewers (On average a 2.5M) yet it brings in more cash then TWD does.

I once found a page from NY times wich had a nice summary off it.
HBO>any other channel in the US

The reason why? They generate cash via prescription. Not advertism. HBO owns any show they broadcast. They can therefor, do whatever they please (For example, AMC had to include the new Hydundai SUV even tough the apocalypse started in 2010)

And well HBO invests in its series alot and gives alot of freedom to the show producers.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 08-04-2013, 12:04:59
New episode is out: No Vargo Hoath, no Lem and Rickon and Osha still walk around with Bran. The Brave Companions are also not included, it seems and the duel between Jaime and Brienne wasn´t as good as in the book. Tulisa who replaced Jeyne Westerling is also getting terribly annoying. I just don´t understand why they had to put her in, instead of staying true to the books.
Atleast the actors playing the Reeds are quite good and we didn´t have to see more of Daenerys "Thunderthighs" Targaryen and her mad schemes...

But I´m seriously getting worried about all the diversions from the books. I had high hopes for this season and so far I feel quite disappointed since the script writers seem to think they have to change everything GRRM has created, even for absolutely silly reasons. The quality of the show is quite good, but I just can´t stand it when TV/movie adaptions of books deviate too much from the original source. It feels like the scriptwriters destroy what an author has created before them.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Mud Buddha on 08-04-2013, 16:04:01
Great interview with GoT's Peter Dinklage. Either the man is proper stoned or he's just one of the coolest guys ever. Who knows, maybe both. ;)

http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-episodes/mon-march-25-2013-peter-dinklage

(Interview has no spoilers, btw)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 08-04-2013, 18:04:05
Good episode indeed.

There are just few things that don't make any sense whatsoever. Mostly the inclusion of Jeyne Westerling... Replacing her with.. whatever her name is seems just really clumsy and plain weird.

The thing is, some changes might seem small now, but in the future they have to change a whole lot more, or just retcon it to make any sense.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Butcher on 08-04-2013, 18:04:19
Spoiler: Epic Hodor comeback!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ts4EVER on 08-04-2013, 18:04:02
Hodor for Iron Throne.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Fuchs on 08-04-2013, 19:04:43
Good episode indeed.

There are just few things that don't make any sense whatsoever. Mostly the inclusion of Jeyne Westerling... Replacing her with.. whatever her name is seems just really clumsy and plain weird.

The thing is, some changes might seem small now, but in the future they have to change a whole lot more, or just retcon it to make any sense.

After reading some theories regarding the TV show I think I know what they will pull with Talisa, I'd say just wait.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Biiviz on 08-04-2013, 19:04:36
Spoiler: Epic Hodor comeback!
Hodor for Iron Throne.

Hodor.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 08-04-2013, 19:04:53
Hodor! Stop Hodoring!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 08-04-2013, 20:04:46
Great episode. Gotta love Margaery and Arya for there performance


Omlenna Tyrell was also great :D
Now i understand why they call her the queen of thorns :)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 10-04-2013, 00:04:06
(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/7042709_700b.jpg)

Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Eglaerinion on 13-04-2013, 12:04:24
Now that the Reeds have been introduced I hope we get to hear the quote in my sig this season.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Fuchs on 15-04-2013, 13:04:58
That was a beautiful episode. I looked forward to that moment at the end for so long. His arc has just begun.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ts4EVER on 15-04-2013, 13:04:54
People are complaining about the music choice at the end, but to me it fit beautifully, simply because it was as scarring and bizarre as the scene preceding it.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Fuchs on 15-04-2013, 14:04:36
I think it fits as well, and it's a good song.

And that slaver has a special place in my heart. I'll give her ten more because I like the curve of her ass.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 15-04-2013, 15:04:21
- Poor slave master, still oblivious to Daenerys speaking High Valyrian.

- One of the best scenes in all of the books will be in the next episode ;D

- Who the hell is trying to help Theon escape? The Bastard's henchman arranging a hunt for his master? The Bastard himself? A real Ironborn?

- This is way better rendition of the song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6VMSYIXCCY
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 15-04-2013, 16:04:05
- Poor slave master, still oblivious to Daenerys speaking High Valyrian.

- One of the best scenes in all of the books will be in the next episode ;D

- Who the hell is trying to help Theon escape? The Bastard's henchman arranging a hunt for his master? The Bastard himself? A real Ironborn?

- This is way better rendition of the song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6VMSYIXCCY
The dude helping Theon escape is just Ramsey Bolton being a sadist, I am sure of it.  He's just taking it weirdly far.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Butcher on 15-04-2013, 16:04:58
Why does everybody hate poor Theon? He couldn´t have acted right. On the one hand he was some kind of family member/hostage of the Starks but was also called brother by Robb. On the other side his real brothers were killed and he is still connected to his real family. That´s a classic dilemma (two possibilities to act which both lead to unpleasant consequences) and I think that makes him kinda sympathetic.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 15-04-2013, 17:04:55
Maybe it's because he's rather pathetic little wimp who tried to solve some of his daddy issues by massacring the inhabitants of Winterfell, which he was not even able to do correctly. Not to mention the Ironborn are a bunch of tools anyway.  I have no sympathy for Theon.

Edit:  I enjoyed Tobias Menzies as Edmure Tulley. He went from playing Brutus the ponce in Rome to Edumure the ponce in GOT.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: th_battleaxe on 15-04-2013, 17:04:28
So they are recycling half the Rome main characters... Very good. Saw Tobias Menzies in The Deep as a government ponce, so no real surprise.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Fuchs on 15-04-2013, 17:04:50
Look again at the scene where the Theon's little helper shoots the last guy. The look of surprise and the words 'you little -bastard-'.

I am 100% certain he is Ramsay taking his craziness to the next level.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 15-04-2013, 17:04:59
People will love Joffrey after they have seen a bit of Ramsay.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 15-04-2013, 19:04:40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nOcdvjmiT4

God i love the comments  ;D

This was a great episode indeed.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kubador on 15-04-2013, 20:04:18
Edit:  I enjoyed Tobias Menzies as Edmure Tulley. He went from playing Brutus the ponce in Rome to Edumure the ponce in GOT.

It took me a bit to put my finger on where I knew this actor from. My face looked like this:

(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQeJBUh83cmnYadB9nlxFmVCk3bRxHHSBSn2RBsMG0srR12VgAu5w)

Brutus got old in the afterlife.

Edit: Podrick part of the show made me laugh.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: NTH on 15-04-2013, 23:04:43
Dude where is my hand. Great episode, good laughs at the Podrick scene.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Lightning on 16-04-2013, 01:04:12
I knew exactly what was coming, but the ending still freaked me out. Good episode.

Also, the guy helping Theon is obviously Reek...
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 16-04-2013, 01:04:03

Also, the guy helping Theon is obviously Reek...
Yeaaaeaaeehhhiii I don't know...The old Reek should be dead by now though, and this guy doesn't seem to.. reek all that much. Way too healthy an clean.

Buuut, they have made bigger changes. :/
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 16-04-2013, 02:04:33
Well actually that actor who was helping Theon is the same guy cast to play Ramsey. ergo it's probably Ramsey
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Lightning on 16-04-2013, 03:04:35
The old Reek should be dead by now though
No, not the old Reek, the Reek that helps Theon in A Clash of Kings.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 16-04-2013, 03:04:55
Oh, I had forgotten there had been a new "Reek".  I didn't like Theon's chapters  very much.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Biiviz on 16-04-2013, 06:04:50
Oh, I had forgotten there had been a new "Reek".  I didn't like Theon's chapters  very much.

Probably 'cause he's such a turd gurgler.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ts4EVER on 16-04-2013, 10:04:45
The end scene + music reminded me of this on some level:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh7tgX_Uaqs
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Eat Uranium on 16-04-2013, 19:04:53
The version I was watching, the end credits music started early, cutting off all the other sound.  It of course started the moment the knife was placed into Jaime's eye.  Was a bit of a shock.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Butcher on 16-04-2013, 20:04:26
Considering Game of Thrones is the only series where I really enjoy the intro theme and never ever skip it, this trash-rock was totally unworthy of GOT. They propably wanted to get some discussions started about what was up with the music in the end, for even more publicity. They can allow themselves to joke a bit with their audience. That or it´s a general change of music and PSY makes the intro for season 4.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 16-04-2013, 20:04:30
The version I was watching, the end credits music started early, cutting off all the other sound.  It of course started the moment the knife was placed into Jaime's eye.  Was a bit of a shock.
yes this is the most watched version but something went wrong with the synching on the end
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: NTH on 16-04-2013, 21:04:34
Reek = Reek the smelly
Reek = Ramsay in disguise
Reek = Theon rymes with meek
The TV-serie is confusing at times at where they are in the story line.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 16-04-2013, 21:04:05
Yesterdays episode was watched by 4.72 Million live viewers on HBO alone

The previous most watched episode, S3Episode 1....had 4.32 million viewers

Counting in the viewers from the later repeat, this makes 5.8 million live viewers on a single day.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Butcher on 16-04-2013, 21:04:55
That is indeed good news! Wouldn´t have noticed if it wasn´t for the big letters. :)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Tuco on 16-04-2013, 22:04:12
MY LETTERS R BOLDER THEN UR'S

Also as for the end of the last episode, I was expecting it to happen but dayum.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 16-04-2013, 22:04:52
Too bad it wasn't Zollo the fat Dothraki who did it though :(
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: NTH on 16-04-2013, 22:04:18
Yesterdays episode was watched by 4.72 Million live viewers on HBO alone

The previous most watched episode, S3Episode 1....had 4.32 million viewers

Counting in the viewers from the later repeat, this makes 5.8 million live viewers on a single day.

What does this mean cousin Larry, should we do the special dance of joy
(http://www.eastsidedavecountry.com/wp-content/uploads/Balki-and-Larrys-Dance-of-Joy.jpg)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 16-04-2013, 22:04:34
It means HBO is likely to cancell the thing??  ::)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Tuco on 22-04-2013, 08:04:24
This episode left me happy and sad at the same time.
WHY MORMONT WHYYYYYYY?!!?!?!?!?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Fuchs on 22-04-2013, 13:04:16
Mormont picking the traitor up and pushing him against the wall, truly shows the Mormont blood. Sadly the line I looked forward to was not spoken. Jeor's last wish.

And first time I thought Daenerys was cool, reveal was good.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 22-04-2013, 14:04:05
- One of the best scenes in all of the books will be in the next episode ;D
Told you so :D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 22-04-2013, 19:04:42
Overall a good episode and then came the last 10 minutes wich made this one of the best fucking episodes of them all

I found my allegiance alright!
FIRE AND BLOOD!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 22-04-2013, 19:04:42
I found my allegiance alright!
FIRE AND BLOOD!
I agree with you, the last ten minutes were really, really good. It was one of the first times Daenerys wasn´t annyoing. Too bad she´s gonna mess up everything else in the future...

Otherwise, the episode was...alright, I guess. I know, i sound like a broken record, but some of the deviations from the books still bother me deeply, but I guess I´ll just have to get used to it. If it´ll become too much I can still revel in the books and enjoy GRRMs writing without a bunch of screenplay writers messing up his works. Hopefully....
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 22-04-2013, 19:04:36
DUDE SPOILERS  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 22-04-2013, 19:04:55
That is not a spoiler. More like a factually incorrect opinion.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 22-04-2013, 19:04:12
That is not a spoiler. More like a factually incorrect opinion.
Spoiler:
Because Astapor and Meereen were Danys big successes, right? Getting entangled in the petty rivalries of the Mereeneese royalty, trying to set everything right for everyone, messing around with Daario and being a do-gooder were costly and pretty bad for her cause. Only in the end of "Dance" did she even manage to control Drogon, so right now it looks pretty grim to her. Now please tell me where she actually didn´t mess up and managed to do something to help her cause.[size]
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 22-04-2013, 19:04:39
hm okay, Then its okay  ;D ;D

GO Dany!!!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 22-04-2013, 19:04:19
That is not a spoiler. More like a factually incorrect opinion.
Spoiler:
Because Astapor and Meereen were Danys big successes, right? Getting entangled in the petty rivalries of the Mereeneese royalty, trying to set everything right for everyone, messing around with Daario and being a do-gooder were costly and pretty bad for her cause. Only in the end of "Dance" did she even manage to control Drogon, so right now it looks pretty grim to her. Now please tell me where she actually didn´t mess up and managed to do something to help her cause.[size]
There is a thread called 'A Song of Ice And Fire' where one can post should one wish to continue to pursue this discussion.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kubador on 22-04-2013, 21:04:34
I found my allegiance alright!
FIRE AND BLOOD!

Now, when she has an 8000 strong army with 3 dragons you jump on the bandwagon? TRAITOR of the North!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Gezoes on 22-04-2013, 21:04:45
Epic shit at the end, haha, awesome.

Thanks for the spoiler Homer. Kinda ruined the series. Hope you feel good.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 22-04-2013, 23:04:36
Cry me a river, Gezoes. It's not that I did it on purpose and actually wrote anything specific that gives away a huge part of the plot. And besides, Thorondor said it was a "factually incorrect opinion", anyway, so nothing factual was spoiled...
Or you could...you know...read the books.   ::)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 22-04-2013, 23:04:41

Or you could...you know...read the books.   ::)
Some of us wanna be surprised every monday  ;)
Then you read the books, and be more amazed
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: NTH on 23-04-2013, 20:04:41
It really is not a spoiler, but his opinion. I do not agree with him. So nothing spoiled.

Theon being lead back to the torture chamber, George Martin being a sadist or justice?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 23-04-2013, 20:04:05
Theon being lead back to the torture chamber, George Martin being a sadist or justice?
'Sadist' would be quite mild term when describing the Bastard.

And on an unrelated note; I hope that they have filmed the stories that Jojen and Bran share during the journey. Night's King, Rat Cook etc.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: NTH on 23-04-2013, 20:04:07
Well Theon has some justice coming his way. If he pillaged Winterfell anno 2013 there be a million retweets at #TortureTheon
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Lightning on 23-04-2013, 20:04:46
And on an unrelated note; I hope that they have filmed the stories that Jojen and Bran share during the journey. Night's King, Rat Cook etc.
I doubt it. Fitting A Storm of Swords in 10 hours really requires you remove everything that isn't completely essential. Especially if you feel the need to keep including characters that aren't in the book, like Theon.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 23-04-2013, 20:04:09
And on an unrelated note; I hope that they have filmed the stories that Jojen and Bran share during the journey. Night's King, Rat Cook etc.
I doubt it. Fitting A Storm of Swords in 10 hours really requires you remove everything that isn't completely essential. Especially if you feel the need to keep including characters that aren't in the book, like Theon.
And I just remembered that they have already released something about The Night's King: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KHzcsLjgog
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 23-04-2013, 22:04:17
4.87 million viewers from last episode. Dayum  ;D ;D
Again a record for the series
another 1.05million in the rerun at midnight. Take in account HBO earns 2-3$ per live viewer.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/318887_580536878643269_438713675_n.png)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 29-04-2013, 17:04:20
"These are northmen, Uncle. The north remembers."
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Tuco on 29-04-2013, 19:04:04
Well its safe to say we probably all know whats coming, still seems the episodes get better and better. Probably just buildup. And lol Cersei you bitch.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ts4EVER on 29-04-2013, 19:04:27
You know, I'm not usually the sentimental type, but Stannis' daughter really tugs at my heart strings. Poor little girl.

edit: also, best sex scene ever: "You know nothing Jon Snoooooooooooooooo"
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kubador on 29-04-2013, 20:04:40
Very good episode indeed. A good fight opener and a strong plot/emotion ending.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 29-04-2013, 23:04:03

edit: also, best sex scene ever: "You know nothing Jon Snoooooooooooooooo"
Yeah that was a great scene


Not to mentions Jaimi's little story
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Lightning on 30-04-2013, 02:04:49
Aww yes, this was a very nice episode indeed. Included all the things that make Game of Thrones such an awesome show, from the rich background stories of the characters and the world, to the full frontal nudity and sex scenes and from the fire-wreathed battle scenes and beheadings to the intrigues of the court at King's Landing and the tension between ser Mormont and ser Barristan.

One thing that confused me though was the music during the execution scene. It's the ironborn theme. 'Pay the iron price' if you have the season 2 soundtrack. Seemed more than a little out of place.

I'm also noticing that the further the story goes on, the less I remember from the books. I had to struggle really hard to remember the name of Stannis' girl (Shireen) and how Davos' story line goes in the book. Anyway, there were some other large deviations, but I can't talk about those as it will spoil the rest of the season. Need to read the books again. Or maybe just a Storm of Swords.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 30-04-2013, 10:04:40
Too bad they cut Patchface. The weird court jester of Stannis... knowing his back story and hearing him singing that song that Shireen sung would have been well creepy.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: NTH on 30-04-2013, 19:04:34
Too bad they cut Patchface. The weird court jester of Stannis... knowing his back story and hearing him singing that song that Shireen sung would have been well creepy.

Yes this. I was expecting Patchface too. Was she singing "Under the sea"? I couldn't make out the words.
Also
"Hullo Honey I am home and I shagged a red Priest"
"That's okay dear I wept tears of joy."
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 30-04-2013, 19:04:48
viewers are up by half a million again

5.35 million life viewers for yesterdays episode!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Tuco on 01-05-2013, 06:05:13
They need to go ahead and up the episode count by say.... 355 episodes a season.
Get to writing Mr. Martin.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Eglaerinion on 01-05-2013, 15:05:17
viewers are up by half a million again

5.35 million life viewers for yesterdays episode!
Damn that was quick. I expected that the finale might break 5 million.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Butcher on 01-05-2013, 16:05:25
That was the biggest "in season" jump for GOT. I think it is becuase of the awesome ending of the last episode. There was also a big hype in the internet about it. And right so.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 06-05-2013, 14:05:42
Oh, I see what they did there. They merged the characters of Gendry and Edric Storm.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ts4EVER on 06-05-2013, 17:05:30
Could this be the end of sexposition?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: GooGeL on 06-05-2013, 19:05:11
Gdamn nailbiter. So much build up going on.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ts4EVER on 07-05-2013, 18:05:51
Seriously how good was littlefinger's speech? Best speech since Syro Forel.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Butcher on 07-05-2013, 18:05:19
Best part imo was the five second scene from Jeoffrey. That was psycho.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: GooGeL on 07-05-2013, 21:05:33
Best part imo was the five second scene from Jeoffrey. That was psycho.

HAH yeah! Didn't see that one coming.

Theon scene where he finally cut up his pinky and pulled on the bone? I really felt that pain.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Lightning on 13-05-2013, 00:05:31
Tonight's episode was written by the man himself. I can hardly wait, it's going to be awesome.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ts4EVER on 13-05-2013, 09:05:50
Meh it was the weakest episode of season 3 so far in my opinion. Too disjointed and to few standout scenes.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Fuchs on 13-05-2013, 11:05:53
Absolutely loved Tywin and Joffrey. Little Joff is afraid of the old man.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Biiviz on 13-05-2013, 11:05:34
The Hodor scene was the best in the entire history of moving pictures.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Butcher on 13-05-2013, 11:05:49
Hodors adventures are my favourite plot line!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Biiviz on 13-05-2013, 12:05:58
Had to rewatch the scene like 6 times.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Butcher on 13-05-2013, 19:05:54
So Theon has now officialy no longer a penis?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Fuchs on 13-05-2013, 20:05:26
It was never really clear in the books but GRRM confirmed it with this episode. Though I always believed he lost it, har!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 13-05-2013, 21:05:51
Hodor said hodor quietly

maybe it means "yes"

maybe hodor is very smart but he can only say hodor
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Butcher on 13-05-2013, 22:05:23
Maybe Hodor is that god Melisandre praises - the Lord of the Light - in disguise of course.

Maybe Hodor is a Pokemon. But then he would be able to say "Ho" and "Dor" separately - so this can be excluded. Also his name is Walder.

Maybe Hodor just acts as if he doesn´t have a clue, because he has gotten tired of all this shit.

Maybe Hodor is telepathic and sends Bran those crow visions.

Maybe Hodor is to smart for everyone else and THEY speak a retarded language.

Maybe Hodor has tourettes syndrome.

Edit: Hodor
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 13-05-2013, 22:05:35
Hodor indeed Butch
Hodor indeed
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kubador on 13-05-2013, 22:05:44
The bear fight was kinda weak tho. Hodor vs bear, now that would be something. Overall a very good episode.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: NTH on 13-05-2013, 23:05:45
Next up the rains of Castamere for sure.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 15-05-2013, 18:05:23
Last week showed 5.5 million live viewers(a record)

but this week its only 4.84 million

Wich i dont find surprising. Episodes 1 to 5 were amazing but the last 2 episodes were a bit, "Less epic"

Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 20-05-2013, 10:05:00
From now on, "Cersei" shall be the word used to describe a gigantic bitch of a woman


Also sam has found the weakness ;D

pretty good episode
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Butcher on 20-05-2013, 17:05:39
pretty good episode
Without Hodor? Rather not.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Tuco on 22-05-2013, 01:05:17
Only 2 more episodes left. :'(
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 22-05-2013, 09:05:33
Next episode will be... interesting. 
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: NTH on 22-05-2013, 20:05:38
Next up the rains of Castamere for sure.

Next up the rains of Castamere for sure.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Lightning on 22-05-2013, 21:05:07
I'm reading next episode is June 2, not May 26. Is that true and why?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 22-05-2013, 21:05:48
I'm reading next episode is June 2, not May 26. Is that true and why?
Apparently it's true. Due to Monday being a public holiday in the USA we'll have to wait for another week until we'll see the infamous event everyone's been waiting for.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Tuco on 29-05-2013, 05:05:51
The ratings were shit last year because of Memorial day, so logically they wont be making that mistake again.
Also this gives them a chance to hype up the biggest episode of the season, they know what they're doing.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: LHeureux on 29-05-2013, 07:05:15
If you guys didn't read the books, you have no idea what's coming on the next episode ;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: McCloskey on 29-05-2013, 12:05:17
I didn't but I do.. and I'm pissed like hell evere since I found out. >:( Srsly, why can't they just get rid of the stupid blonde with her dragons instead, I despise that story line probably the most, she can get really annoying sometimes.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: CHRISTIEFRONTDRIVE on 29-05-2013, 16:05:32
I didn't but I do.. and I'm pissed like hell evere since I found out. >:( Srsly, why can't they just get rid of the stupid blonde with her dragons instead, I despise that story line probably the most, she can get really annoying sometimes.

(http://nerdapproved.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Where-are-my-dragons-e1339811012160.jpg)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Korsakov829 on 03-06-2013, 04:06:23
What the fuck did I just watch... how many main characters were just killed off? Damn that was so sudden!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Tuco on 03-06-2013, 04:06:35
Welp.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: LHeureux on 03-06-2013, 04:06:54
The butthurt is strong in the fanbase ahha  :D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Tuco on 03-06-2013, 05:06:48
I knew it was coming but damn.. they spared none of the graphic details...
So sad. :[ 
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: LHeureux on 03-06-2013, 07:06:36
The scene here, uploaded by one of my close friend :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anV48ukkgXQ&feature=youtube_gdata
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ts4EVER on 03-06-2013, 09:06:10
No better way to start your morning than humming the rains of castamere in the shower.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Eglaerinion on 03-06-2013, 10:06:24
The North remembers.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 03-06-2013, 10:06:47
Quote
"some wars are won with swords others with quills and ravens"

The last few minutes of todays episode were still very sobering, especially since they didn´t leave out any graphical details. Made me feel like when I read this scene in the books, so kudos to the producers for capturing the feeling of wedding.



Though we haven´t seen Rob with his new head, yet.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Mud Buddha on 03-06-2013, 13:06:27
Came across this after I found out about the 'videochannel' option in my Plex player:
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/6743418a65/sex-game-of-thrones

Apologies if this has been posted before, don't know how old this is.

(No spoilers beyond season 1)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Lightning on 03-06-2013, 14:06:22
Well, that certainly didn't disappoint.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 03-06-2013, 15:06:00
Noo, they changed the best lines; "Hodor! Stop Hodoring!" and "Jaime Lannister sends his regards". ;D

Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Biiviz on 03-06-2013, 16:06:31
Noo, they changed the best lines; "Hodor! Stop Hodoring!" and "Jaime Lannister sends his regards". ;D

They changed it to "Hodor! No more Hodoring!" and "The Lannisters send their regards".
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 03-06-2013, 16:06:54
On an unrelated note, I presume we won't see Coldhands until series 4.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 03-06-2013, 17:06:53
On an unrelated note, I presume we won't see Coldhands until series 4.
I´ve got a feeling that his appearence would be a pretty good cliffhanger for the next season, so hopefully he´ll turn up next week.
Btw, am I the only one who thought that the "conquest" of Mereen was pretty lame? I mean, three guys just walk into some badly guarded gate, kill a big group of well-equipped soldiers and then "convince" the rest to join their cause?
I´m also quite sad that we´ll never see Strong Belwas "dealing" with Mereens champion... :/
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 03-06-2013, 17:06:55
Yunkai, not Meeren ;)

I'm quite sad that most likely we won't see Strong Belwas at all.

Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Butcher on 03-06-2013, 17:06:26
I liked the episode, this love story was becoming pretty annoying anyways.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 03-06-2013, 17:06:21
Mh, true, it´s Yunkai. Weird, I thought Dany conquered Yunkai and moved on to Mereen already. Well, anyway, the fight was still a bit disappointing.
Too bad Strong Belwas is completely out. While not contributing too much compared to other characters, he´s still pretty damn awesome and it´s a real shame he´s not in the show.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Lightning on 03-06-2013, 18:06:22
I assume they've just skipped Yunkhai entirely and renamed Mereen to Yunkhai.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 03-06-2013, 18:06:24
oh no

the band is playing the rains of castamere

something bads gonna happen, Right??

edit
holy shit
holt
shit
mother of ......
so much blood.......
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 03-06-2013, 20:06:48
https://twitter.com/RedWeddingTears

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 03-06-2013, 20:06:33
its easy to pick apart the stark fanboys who are butthurt but who never read the books


And the trolls  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 03-06-2013, 20:06:39
Gotta be said; I don't really agree with Catelyn killing Walder's wife rather than grandson like in the book. :/
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Biiviz on 03-06-2013, 20:06:10
Gotta be said; I don't really agree with Catelyn killing Walder's wife rather than grandson like in the book. :/

Killing his grandson would actually make sense. He obviously doesn't care about the women around him.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kubador on 03-06-2013, 20:06:59
More actors = more money to spend, they cut corners wherever they can to have high financing of crucial things.

At first I thought "Walter Frey, you baller!" when he introduced the bride and made a wink on top of that. But then, "Y U SO BAD?!". My little Stark lovin' tears dropped. I'm in the middle of first book so it will be some time until I unravel more secrets.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 03-06-2013, 20:06:22
People losing their shit over fictional characters? My, oh my, never heard of that one before.  ;D

I love it when that happens, even if it means a character I really like ends up as worm food.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 03-06-2013, 21:06:29
More actors = more money to spend, they cut corners wherever they can to have high financing of crucial things.
euhm


that doesnt make sense whatsoever

GOT follows the books. HBO dint killed the starks because of money issues. They died because they died in the books

right? because i am just starting the third book
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 03-06-2013, 21:06:39
I think he means they they didn't get extra actor to play Aegon Frey and rather let Catelyn kill old Frey's wife who was already in the series.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 03-06-2013, 22:06:30
aah okay, then he is correct  ;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kubador on 03-06-2013, 22:06:15
Thoris is right on what I meant, Theta.

I actually like big plot twists and when series is not afraid of butchering it's vital characters for the story to be more compelling. It only adds to the "anything can happen" factor. Still, it's sad when heroes you were rooting for die off so suddenly.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Butcher on 03-06-2013, 22:06:39
Spoilers: Hodor doesn´t like thunder.

Am I the only one around here who thought Robb Stark and his Ho were lame? I was more sorry for the wolf.

Also a noob question from somebody who didn´t read the books. Was that girl that married Brutus even a Frey? Or just someone they hired for that wedding? She obviously didn´t look like one.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: NTH on 03-06-2013, 23:06:23
Literally goosebumps when they played Rains of Castamere. You know what comes but it still grips you.
Tbh glad that this part of the Stark story is out of the way. So many more interesting parts to come, pig riding comes to mind and taking the ultimate shit :-)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: CHRISTIEFRONTDRIVE on 04-06-2013, 00:06:34
SPOILERS!

I'm glad Catelyn is dead. I'm sorry but that bitch fucked things up for her family at every opportunity and never once seemed to realize she was the one making mistakes. How many people are dead because she couldn't keep her hands out of things?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Hjaldrgud on 04-06-2013, 04:06:55
WHAT IS THIS I DON'T EVEN WAT WAT WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT
W H A T  T H E  H E L L
GEORGE R R MARTIN IS THE BIGGEST TROLL AUTHOR IN HISTORY

/caps lock mode off

This is bullshit. I can't hold all this rage. This is too much for me.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Tuco on 04-06-2013, 06:06:22
(http://i.imgur.com/pk6NQNM.jpg)

Sorry for the earlier spoiler btw, lost track of what forum i was posting in. ><
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: DLFReporter on 04-06-2013, 09:06:43
Oh come on guys, after the death of Ned Stark you should have known, that GRR has no problem with killing everyone with a bit of sympathy. ^^

(http://t.qkme.me/3p27rn.jpg)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 04-06-2013, 17:06:48
http://gawker.com/arya-starks-game-of-thrones-red-wedding-reaction-vid-511123345

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Gotta love Maisie :D


(http://jpegy.com/images/uploads/2013/06/tumblr_mnsyznqOkY1ry11mso1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: GooGeL on 04-06-2013, 20:06:55
Been waiting for something big to happen this season, they sure heck delivered.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: NTH on 04-06-2013, 21:06:23
I thought in the books Cat had her eyes cut out
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 04-06-2013, 21:06:18
I thought in the books Cat had her eyes cut out
use

spoiler
tags
or
warnings

the way Christie and Butcher do it
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: McCloskey on 04-06-2013, 21:06:06
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22yTf0kD6-g

Not a fan of the Targaryen storyline, but man, is this track cool or what!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Lightning on 04-06-2013, 21:06:04
Ah, season 3 OST is out - finally.


Warning (book) spoilers:

Hmm, the final track is called "For the realm". I wonder what the final scene of the season will be.

Listening to it, it's just an acoustic guitar solo of the main theme. Probably Mysha is the finale then, so Danearys will be the last scene. I was kinda hoping it would end with Coldhands or un-Cat. Those would be some epic cliffhangers.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: NTH on 04-06-2013, 23:06:45
I thought in the books Cat had her eyes cut out
use

spoiler
tags
or
warnings

the way Christie and Butcher do it

If it already happened in the series it is open for debate. Read faster dufus  ;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 05-06-2013, 10:06:06
I thought in the books Cat had her eyes cut out
Nope

Ah, season 3 OST is out - finally.


Warning (book) spoilers:

Hmm, the final track is called "For the realm". I wonder what the final scene of the season will be.

Listening to it, it's just an acoustic guitar solo of the main theme. Probably Mysha is the finale then, so Danearys will be the last scene. I was kinda hoping it would end with Coldhands or un-Cat. Those would be some epic cliffhangers.

I didn't think of the final scene before Jesse Cox mentioned on twitter that CH would be pretty bad ass cliffhanger ending. And I quite agree.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: NTH on 05-06-2013, 11:06:32
I thought in the books Cat had her eyes cut out
Nope

There you done it, now I have to reread all 5 volumes again  ;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ts4EVER on 06-06-2013, 03:06:00
-Rewatch last episode.
-Wait until it cuts to credit.
-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh7tgX_Uaqs
-Profit.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 06-06-2013, 19:06:15
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulUBDu_97z8
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Tuco on 09-06-2013, 15:06:34
*Spoiler*

Well a leaked shot from the upcoming episode. Rather gruesome so you've been warned.

http://i.imgur.com/iAZkRZMh.jpg
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 09-06-2013, 16:06:06
The hell is that
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ts4EVER on 09-06-2013, 16:06:39
The hell is that

Robb Stark
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 09-06-2013, 17:06:57
ow HELL naw  :-X
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: CHRISTIEFRONTDRIVE on 09-06-2013, 18:06:59
I was hoping they'd include that :D.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Tuco on 10-06-2013, 06:06:37
Welp time for that brutal dark stale horrible time between seasons.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ts4EVER on 10-06-2013, 08:06:37
I wonder how the iron born story line will change now.

Considering later events she cant save theon next season, am I right?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 10-06-2013, 10:06:29
Mhhh, no Coldhands and Zombie-Cat. Also, Castle Black Looks way different than in the books and they´ve changed the Ironborn storyline. Also, there was that weird Jon-Ygritte encounter that didn´t make much sense. :/

Overall an ok episode, but not a very spectacular season finale. Third season had some nice moments but overall it was kinda frustrating to watch. I had high hopes for this one but was left a bit disappointed. Atleast there´s a big break now and I might just start to re-read the books, soon.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Fuchs on 10-06-2013, 13:06:43
Don't worry Homer, UnCat will appear next season, Coldhands will appear next season. I'm definitely sure about the last one because this massive flock of crows was following Samwell and Gilly; it's Coldhands. I know he's there. The Night's King shall rise again.

I loved the change they did to the Ironborn, Asha going out to save her little brother. The one thing I missed was Stannis's best line in the history of aSoIaF about that he realizes he should have fought for the Kingdom and not the Throne or something like that, bad at memorizing quotes.


I loved this season.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 10-06-2013, 13:06:00
i very enjoyed this season


also dont fuck with arya

Stab stab stab
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ts4EVER on 10-06-2013, 14:06:48
The actor playing roose bolton is awesome. How he manages to keep his eyes completely cold and dead.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: GooGeL on 10-06-2013, 14:06:53
(http://i.imgur.com/fe4NUDb.gif)

Ugh, I got really hyped about the next season. So many moons until that comes around :(
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Butcher on 10-06-2013, 14:06:14
Gets to a well: "Hodor. Hodoooooooooor."       
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 10-06-2013, 14:06:54
Episode was 9.5/10

The episode itself was a bit average

but the hodor HOOODDDOOORR scene made it all up!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 10-06-2013, 14:06:17
They made Ramsay a lot nicer than in the books. Just like they made Joffrey more evil. Shame, really.

In the books Joffrey isn't really evil, just stupid and arrogant. The Bastard on the other hand... damn.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Biiviz on 10-06-2013, 15:06:44
I'm really starting to like Tywin Lannister. Having just rewatched Season 1 and Season 2 and with the latest episode, he seems to be one of the most intelligent and clear-headed characters.

I'm glad the Stark mother died, what a total pain in the ass. Also hoping Theon gets flayed by Bolton's bastard.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 10-06-2013, 15:06:15
also dont fuck with arya

Stab stab stab

I don´t exactly know why, but for some reason I absolutely can´t stand show-Arya. Book-Arya was always kinda cool, but I just dislike her in the show. Her whole demeanor just feels...odd and pretty lame. Maybe it´s the actress, I dunno...
Also, I feel like the ending was extremely cringe-worthy and pretty kitschy, especially with the Enya-like music playing in the background. The conquest of Yunkai was also pretty disappointing...
What I really liked were Roose Bolton, Davos Seaworth and Tywin Lannister. Their actors fit the roles perfectly and it´s a joy seeing them on screen.

What bugged me a bit was how the Stannis scene where he decides to go for the North was a tad different from the book. AFAIK it wasn´t so much Mellisandres influence that moved him, but the persuading of Davos who convinced him to give up pursuing his selfish interests and work on protecting the realm, instead.

Another small-ish thing: Did they merge the Storm Crows and the Second Sons into one mercenary group? In the books Daario was a member of the first group, yet in the show he´s an officer in the latter.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 24-06-2013, 17:06:04
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/1010724_540935469302706_1745082156_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 24-06-2013, 20:06:35
A moment of your time?

Thanks.

So, those who have not read the first book, could you answer one little question for me?
This will not spoil anything, since by book 5 we have not heard an answer.

Do you have an idea who are Jon Snow's parents?

It was hinted in the first book, but I can't tell how well it came through in the series.

You don't have to mention names, but since it's all speculation it can't really spoil anything.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: hslan.Grim on 29-06-2013, 10:06:26
I haven't read the books and have no clue who his parents/mother is. But from the series I assume his father is Eddard. Although I could have missed a hint in the series.

Also after series 2 a friend and I started to think that he could have been a bastard of Lyanna.

But then again I have no clue and might have missed a hint.

Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kubador on 29-06-2013, 21:06:19
I've been reading the first book recently and I'm past the hint moment of John Snow's identity but in the series, Robert and ed had a small conversation during which a name of 'Betsy' came up - this is all I know from the TV, and that Eddard doesn't want to talk about it.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Fuchs on 29-06-2013, 21:06:20
No, Betsy was Robert's whore with the big tits. Wylla was supposedly the woman Eddard named as the mother of Jon.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kubador on 30-06-2013, 03:06:47
Ah yes, my mistake... big tits get into one's memory.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Fuchs on 01-07-2013, 02:07:37
Righteously so.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 12-10-2013, 11:10:16
http://io9.com/first-look-at-game-of-bones-the-x-rated-version-of-wes-1443984812


Well, i suppose this coming sooner or later  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ts4EVER on 12-10-2013, 12:10:32
What is the difference? Less violence?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 12-10-2013, 17:10:54
What is the difference? Less violence?
haha, good one
also less animal cruelty  ;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: DLFReporter on 14-10-2013, 08:10:34
Oh yes! Got to see this alone for this comment, which has been bugging me ever since I read the books:

Quote
Are you going to show us exactly what Podrick did that was so great?

Yes.

:D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 19-10-2013, 22:10:37
Look who i met today!

(http://imageshack.us/a/img59/5416/mei0.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img43/734/aify.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img17/2568/m469.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img841/5909/xphx.jpg)

Sitting only 4 meters away from Iain glen. Lovely guy. Big talker with a heart who was sad he only got 45 minutes of Question and answering with his Fans.  ;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ts4EVER on 19-10-2013, 22:10:30
BTW I heard Daario was recast? Kind of stupid, but then again I didnt really liked the actor, looked like somebody you would usually find on the cover of tacky Romance books, with the shirt half open and a lighthouse in the background, while a dame looks longingly into the distance from his embrace. NOt like a mercenary at all.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Thorondor123 on 19-10-2013, 22:10:42
BTW I heard Daario was recast? Kind of stupid, but then again I didnt really liked the actor, looked like somebody you would usually find on the cover of tacky Romance books, with the shirt half open and a lighthouse in the background, while a dame looks longingly into the distance from his embrace. NOt like a mercenary at all.
I hope he will look even a little bit like he should:

(http://awoiaf.westeros.org/images/1/1f/Daario_Naharis.jpg)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Tuco on 12-01-2014, 09:01:06
Stannis the mannis.

*Season 4 teasers/spoilers for some people i guess*
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/tvnews.php?id=113319
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kubador on 11-02-2014, 00:02:58
If someone didn't see the trailer yet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZY43QSx3Fk

also

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5iS3tULXMQ
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 06-04-2014, 22:04:09
Sers and ladies...it begins tonight/tommorow
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Surfbird on 07-04-2014, 00:04:18
I'm all pumped up for it ;)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Tankbuster on 07-04-2014, 06:04:33
Gonna watch it with the world this time.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Tuco on 07-04-2014, 08:04:50
Is it just the fact that I've been deprived of my fix for the last 10 months or was this a pretty good premier?
 
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Sander93 on 07-04-2014, 10:04:03
BTW I heard Daario was recast?
I hope he will look even a little bit like he should:

(http://awoiaf.westeros.org/images/1/1f/Daario_Naharis.jpg)

An improvement, in my opinion.
(http://i59.tinypic.com/98ufwl.png)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Tankbuster on 07-04-2014, 12:04:59
Ooh yeah, loved the hound + Arya scenes.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 07-04-2014, 23:04:32
That was a great season opener i tell you...

also new record for the series: 6.6 million live viewers. (previous record was 5.39)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kubador on 11-04-2014, 02:04:22
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJCBRepFi2g
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Tuco on 14-04-2014, 04:04:42
It finally happened. :3
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Korsakov829 on 14-04-2014, 05:04:23
Thank the gods! That was glorious.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 14-04-2014, 12:04:02
Oh damn this was brutal
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kubador on 14-04-2014, 13:04:03
Welp, I didn't imagine him go like that.

Btw, I loved Stanis's face when his wife asked him 'did you see their souls?'. He was like... 'nah'.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 14-04-2014, 13:04:22
Focken Cersei immediately blamed the dwarf. God that bitch is annoying.

Why won't she just let the poor have the leftovers? Is it THAT bad to do it?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ts4EVER on 14-04-2014, 14:04:00
Why won't she just let the poor have the leftovers? Is it THAT bad to do it?

Of course it is, then they won't help themselves.  ;)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Tankbuster on 14-04-2014, 15:04:53
Because Marge said that it would go to the poor.

Wow, I love how they have made Stannis into a generic religious fanatic. He is gonna strap himself to a wildfire vest and explode in KL one of these days.

MOD EDIT: THIS ISN'T A SPOILER THREAD
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 14-04-2014, 17:04:24


Wow, I love how they have made Stannis into a generic religious fanatic. He is gonna strap himself to a wildfire vest and explode in KL one of these days.

MOD EDIT: THIS ISN'T A SPOILER THREAD
Stannis doesn't give two shits about religion, he converted out of political expediency.  Think Constantine the Great.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 14-04-2014, 18:04:16
Thank you for letting go yet another spoiler. Minor but it is a spoiler as i have not yet reached that part of the books
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ciupita on 14-04-2014, 23:04:11
All people here haven't read the books. This thread is only to discuss about the tv-series and episodes shown. Here (http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?topic=16822.0) is a thread where you can discuss what happens in the books further. Next spoiler will result in a ban/readonly.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 14-04-2014, 23:04:23
Thank you for letting go yet another spoiler. Minor but it is a spoiler as i have not yet reached that part of the books
Sorry.  Though the show made it pretty obvious...
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Fuchs on 14-04-2014, 23:04:06
Don't use that dark blue on grey, bloody fucking hell. My eyes are bleeding.

Anyways, still not enough Stannis in this episode. 1/10. RIP Pigeon #12 and #03, you shall never be forgotten.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ts4EVER on 16-04-2014, 15:04:55
I guess there is a cure for being a cunt after all.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kubador on 21-04-2014, 20:04:39
Oh littlefinger, I see what you did there.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 21-04-2014, 20:04:34
Tell, Legolas, what do your elf eyes see?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Fuchs on 21-04-2014, 20:04:57
Young ginger booty, Gimli.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Sander93 on 21-04-2014, 20:04:15
Tell, Legolas, what do your elf eyes see?

You need a Stark to rule the North.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 21-04-2014, 20:04:35
The internet is going wild because of the Jaime/cersei scene
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Tuco on 21-04-2014, 21:04:43
(http://i.imgur.com/q4j2TZ4.jpg)

Look at Jaimie's rape face. We should have known all along...
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 21-04-2014, 21:04:37
And Tyrion's holding a dagger! Cersei could've seen it long before her son kicked the bucket.

Anyway, yes, but how? She's incapable of anything other than being sypathetic and the north is torn between the boltons, greyjoys and the lot, not including the wildlings who are ravaging the border and probably Stannis if he listens to the Red Woman

Also did Davos just send a letter to the Iron bank asking a loan?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Tankbuster on 21-04-2014, 21:04:49
That scene when Sansa is a couple of inches taller than PedoBaelish. She looked beautiful in that cloak.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 23-04-2014, 13:04:59
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1.0-9/984077_10203639730504437_8955464368412562191_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Tuco on 27-04-2014, 10:04:10
(https://i.imgur.com/SlbTS57.gif)

(http://i.imgur.com/3pSAfCg.gif)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 28-04-2014, 18:04:35
Tommen's first boner and masturbation night for sure
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Tankbuster on 28-04-2014, 19:04:10
They actually added Ser Pounce, I was so overjoyed that I giggled. Awesome episode overall, and Craster's Keep was so grimdark and awesome.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Eat Uranium on 28-04-2014, 23:04:11
(http://i.imgur.com/Vgi9kGI.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: NTH on 29-04-2014, 00:04:12
This episode is for all the mums and dad's with their recent firstborn's out there.
I did miss the GoT trade mark lesbo action scene this time  ;)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 29-04-2014, 00:04:25
What lesbo action scene  ;D

"Because Trant had armor. And a big fucking sword"
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ts4EVER on 05-05-2014, 15:05:36
That craster's keep battle scene was possibly the stupidest scene ever to appear in the series.
So first of all, the Bolton guy scouts out the location. Ok. So he finds the captives and... leaves? Why? Why didn't he go in there, tell them: "I'm with your brother and will free you, but I will have to sneak you out one by one." He carries Bran out of the tent and slits his throat, problem solved. Later he can then kill Jon Snow during the assault or at some other time. But ok, he leaves them there. So in order to keep Jon and the others from getting close to their prison, he tells them there are dogs in there that would give them away.
This would imply that they plan to sneak up on the traitors. But they don't. They just run in there with their swords drawn. Who cares about the dogs?
So then the battle commences and the Bolton guy sneaks of to the prisoners. Why did he carry Bran into the woods like an idiot? He leaves behind the wonder twins, who would surely point out to Jon: "That's the guy who went off with your brother, he is a traitor." He should have just stabbed them all there and then. "Sorry Jon, when we attacked LIKE FUCKING IDIOTS these assholes killed the hostages we never knew they had. Oh that is your brother? How unfortunate. If you need a shoulder to cry on, go into the woods with me alone."
But no, instead of doing all these very reasonable things, he carries Bran into the forest and gets his neck snapped.
Just incredibly stupid.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: SJonni on 05-05-2014, 20:05:35
Karl would have wrecked Jon.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Fuchs on 05-05-2014, 21:05:37
The legend of Gin Alley did rek him, yet the bastards plot armour was too much for him.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Surfbird on 06-05-2014, 01:05:26
Well, yea. The scene was kinda ridicolous indeed. Although I have to say that some amount of human error with a certain lack of perfection can be good at times. This was way too stupid though, especially for a guy who seemed rather sharp and smart. I was kinda surprised when he actually died like nothing there.

To add to it, the generic kind of 1v1 bossfight with the classic swordsman vs the sneaky two-dagger CCQ expert in the house went on. Of course Jon fights him in the house alone with his large sword and the woman, being the third person popping up sets an end to it in the random-6/10-movie-way. Probably the most stereotypical and generic kind of swordfighting scene you could come up with, where the protagonist loses to show of how fierce the opponent was, while a random person or incident saves him anyway.

But I don't want to brag too much about it :P Was still rather nice to watch.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Tuco on 06-05-2014, 05:05:14
Karl would have wrecked Jon.
The legend of Gin Alley did rek him, yet the bastards plot armour was too much for him.

Karl Fookin Tanner
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Tankbuster on 06-05-2014, 05:05:44
I loved the Hodor smash.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Eat Uranium on 06-05-2014, 18:05:04
(http://i.imgur.com/vMr1dgc.jpg)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: NTH on 06-05-2014, 23:05:09
That craster's keep battle scene was possibly the stupidest scene ever to appear in the series.
So first of all, the Bolton guy scouts out the location. Ok. So he finds the captives and... leaves? Why? Why didn't he go in there, tell them: "I'm with your brother and will free you, but I will have to sneak you out one by one." He carries Bran out of the tent and slits his throat, problem solved. Later he can then kill Jon Snow during the assault or at some other time. But ok, he leaves them there. So in order to keep Jon and the others from getting close to their prison, he tells them there are dogs in there that would give them away.
This would imply that they plan to sneak up on the traitors. But they don't. They just run in there with their swords drawn. Who cares about the dogs?
So then the battle commences and the Bolton guy sneaks of to the prisoners. Why did he carry Bran into the woods like an idiot? He leaves behind the wonder twins, who would surely point out to Jon: "That's the guy who went off with your brother, he is a traitor." He should have just stabbed them all there and then. "Sorry Jon, when we attacked LIKE FUCKING IDIOTS these assholes killed the hostages we never knew they had. Oh that is your brother? How unfortunate. If you need a shoulder to cry on, go into the woods with me alone."
But no, instead of doing all these very reasonable things, he carries Bran into the forest and gets his neck snapped.
Just incredibly stupid.

This whole scene did not happen in the book series, perhaps one of the reason why it feels so out of sync with the rest.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Seth_Soldier on 07-05-2014, 12:05:17
wasn't hodor badly wounded by a spear in one of his legs ? I thought he couldn't walk again, it would be more difficult for bran to move
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Tankbuster on 07-05-2014, 13:05:00
Still made for awesome TV, especially since we saw Hodor Smash.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 08-05-2014, 00:05:38
when did this happen?

(http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/31000000/Jaime-and-Stark-soldiers-house-lannister-31098244-500-323.jpg)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kubador on 12-05-2014, 12:05:58
Shae, you whore!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 12-05-2014, 20:05:21
Spoiler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z7J9htpmog

This scene, was...fucking
Amazing
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ts4EVER on 19-05-2014, 22:05:36
Joffrey might be dead, but that doesn't mean we can't have slap gifs.

(http://img2.tvtome.com/i/u/50c789b7dffe459fc5876663e5f3a0a9.gif)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kubador on 20-05-2014, 01:05:15
When Lysa "fell" down the moon door it reminded me of this:

http://youtu.be/4BOQI-LAEzM?t=1m24s
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ts4EVER on 02-06-2014, 05:06:51
I'm kind of reminded of that swordsman scene in Indiana Jones.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Tuco on 02-06-2014, 06:06:50
So yeah this last episode, won't spoil it for my EU brothers but yeah..
Wow...
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kubador on 02-06-2014, 09:06:58
Well, you could say it was *puts on glasses* mind blowing.

Eh, eh? Anyone?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 02-06-2014, 13:06:08
This shocked me more than the Red Wedding or Ned's beheading....and I even knew what was coming.

It was done good (I mean it translated good from the book), but this shit was shocking.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Eat Uranium on 02-06-2014, 15:06:03
Come on man, no monologues.  That's like the first thing they teach you in villain school.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Hjaldrgud on 02-06-2014, 15:06:23
For anyone who got too rustled (including me):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygr5AHufBN4
This helps a lot.

Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Biiviz on 02-06-2014, 16:06:23
(http://i.imgur.com/ZCZmAUj.jpg)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 02-06-2014, 19:06:48
Well


Betted with my friend (she doesnt watch GOT) who would win this fight. I did not knew either what would be the outcome

i frikking Lost....


Great episode. 10/10. But my god
the
ENDING
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Tuco on 03-06-2014, 00:06:31
http://youtu.be/_3Y691g7hQg
http://youtu.be/Wdys79NpMLM

 :D

Both show spoilers btw, don't watch if late to the party.

Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Butcher on 03-06-2014, 01:06:29
One of the best death scenes in TV so far.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Surfbird on 03-06-2014, 01:06:59
Hehehehe, now that was fun ;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: RAnDOOm on 03-06-2014, 01:06:23
Great episode.   8)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Erwin on 04-06-2014, 14:06:16
George R.R. Martin really likes to kill cool guys.  ;D

Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Seth_Soldier on 04-06-2014, 19:06:56
Bravo to the serie and George R.R. Martin
And well done to the actors !
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 05-06-2014, 04:06:52
 I stay very busy with family & work, but i find time for guilty pleasure when i can.

 FH2 is one, playing music is another.

 I love good movies, but watching TV shows is something that i consider boring & a waste of time unless they are really, really good.

 Some TV series that i have watched:

- The Sopranos
- Breaking Bad
- The X Files


 In the above 3 cases, the public praise and critic acclaim caught my attention & forced me to play catch up.

 Once i did, i enjoyed following those series' until they ended.


 So, last week my older sister(who loved the x files) mentioned GOT. She said i would like it & to give it a try.

 I did & all i can say is WOW!  :o

 I'm almost caught up. I am beginning S4 tonight & it keeps getting better & better.

 After watching S3 E9 "The Rains of Castamere", i just sat there with my mouth wide open....silent.

 This series giveth & it taketh away. So many emotional twists & turns. I find myself rooting for 1 character only to have to find another in its place.

 The most unique thing about this series IMO is it has a little bit of everything for everyone.

- U Like Knights, Kings & Castles, u GOT it!  ;)
- Dragons & magic, u GOT it!
- Love, romance & betrayal. u GOT it!

 But the thing for me that has given this series that little something xtra & pushes it to the top of my list is the Monsters & Horror element.




 While everyone is maneuvering for the crown, a darkness is building up north........

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/a2b04c29f91c1fee9dfb7235b72b2870/tumblr_n54pinO8ob1qz9wlpo1_500.gif)

 :-X


Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kubador on 05-06-2014, 12:06:35
Jimi, got one question for you.

Which House you root for? And why is it House Stark?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Sander93 on 05-06-2014, 13:06:55
What I like most about the series (and what makes it unique) is that there is no good or bad. There are no heroes, no protagonists. It follows everyone, and everyone can die or triumph at any given time whether their intentions are good or bad. It's a fresh concept, and it's completely unpreditable. I think it's one of the reasons it's such a good series.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 05-06-2014, 15:06:33
Having never read the books, the show introduces the Starks first & you like them immediately.

 Their honor, loyalty & then betrayals by others reinforces the viewers bond to their house characters.

but....

 As I root for The Starks, there is another that I believe is winning the GOT at this time & will rise in the end & will destroy all........




"I am Daenerys Stormborn of House Targaryen, of the blood of Old Valyeria. I am the dragon's daughter, and I swear to you that those who would harm you will die screaming."


"Dracarys!"
Daenerys Mother Of Dragons



 ;)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Erwin on 05-06-2014, 18:06:27
(http://store.donanimhaber.com/9e/ce/86/9ECE86CD6D6024C579E4BA5CB6CD3682.jpg)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Fuchs on 06-06-2014, 00:06:47
Next episode the rightful King will show that he is not iron but steel.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 06-06-2014, 00:06:47
Yes, Tommen will finally crush all who oppose him and his kitties.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 06-06-2014, 05:06:50
 Apparently there is a Medieval II Total War Kingdoms mod called Westeros v0.53.

 Anyone have this? I cant find it.


 :-[
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kubador on 06-06-2014, 11:06:00
There's a mod for Crusaders Kings II. Didn't play it but from what I've seen it looked really impressive.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Gezoes on 06-06-2014, 13:06:25
I just love the shock of people that usually only watch insert-case/weirdo-of-the-week-series-where-everyone-always-lives.

;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Zoologic on 07-06-2014, 20:06:29
There is too much twist, or anti-climax, it is becoming a cliche now.

But we get the message: yeah you can be "the good guy," but don't get too cocky or stuck up with it, or you'll be gruesomely murdered.

I've just started watching GoT. And I think I'll like it. I like Romance of Three Kingdoms, and this is something like that with awesome production value and a lot more characters to root for and detailed intrigues.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 09-06-2014, 18:06:12
DROP THE SCYTHE
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ts4EVER on 09-06-2014, 22:06:09
Crows before hoes.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kubador on 09-06-2014, 22:06:52
You know nuthin' John S-NOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 09-06-2014, 22:06:09
I promised my friend that I'd watch this shit if he'd watch Breaking Bad. Currently neither of us has started doing anything about it.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Biiviz on 10-06-2014, 10:06:26
I promised my friend that I'd watch this shit if he'd watch Breaking Bad. Currently neither of us has started doing anything about it.

I get what you mean. Certain shows get so hyped that you just don't want to be part of it.

As for Game of Thrones; if you enjoyed Lord of the Rings then you'll probably enjoy this too.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ts4EVER on 10-06-2014, 11:06:24
I promised my friend that I'd watch this shit if he'd watch Breaking Bad. Currently neither of us has started doing anything about it.

I get what you mean. Certain shows get so hyped that you just don't want to be part of it.

As for Game of Thrones; if you enjoyed Lord of the Rings then you'll probably enjoy this too.

I wouldn't say that... the style is quite different imo. LotR is a classic fantasy adventure, while GoT has the structure of a historical drama, just in a fantasy world.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Biiviz on 10-06-2014, 12:06:42
Yeah, whatever. It's got swords and wizards and shit.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Fuchs on 10-06-2014, 17:06:26
LOTR -> good vs bad
GoT -> everyone dies, everyone is bad
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Zoologic on 10-06-2014, 20:06:38
In GoT when the good guys died, and you have to hold all the anguish, pain, sense of helplessness, tantalising urge for revenge. Sit there, watching the gorish scene unfolds, sometimes slowly and with some perverse sense of twist. The bad guys died too, but they don't receive the same on-screen treatment.

Some medieval cuckolding and brutality are lavishly provided and served in an intricate plot too, to give it more modern view on historic times.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: sn00x on 10-06-2014, 21:06:10
You know nuthin' John S-NOOOOOOOOOOOO!

I cried like a man.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 10-06-2014, 22:06:22
The scythe

is absolutely...the most fucking horrible grindfull mutilating way somebody has died in GOT...


Jesus fucking christ mother of god

http://img2.tvtome.com/i/u/775f03f17bcd4fbfcfb90d868c00b567.gif
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 11-06-2014, 00:06:43
At least it was fast? I could watch that gif all day.

I think they shouldn't have revealed their ace just yet, those climbers could've been killed with arrows, god damn it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4oQzTGTc_g

Also this is epic
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 11-06-2014, 09:06:01
You know nuthin' John S-NOOOOOOOOOOOO!
I dislike how they changed the way she died in the series....Ygrittes death in the books was way more tragic. But I guess that little boy really needed a "revenge moment", even though it was super kitschy.
Also, since when does Castle Black have walls in the south? Isn´t the whole point of the Nights Watchs castles that they´re strong to the north, but weak to the south so they´ll never rebell against other men again?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Surfbird on 11-06-2014, 09:06:22
Well, considering we are in a fantasy genre typically coming with excessively high and thick walls (that ice wall and some of the cities' walls for example), that wall was comparably small and, as seen, it was no real barrier for the attackers.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 11-06-2014, 10:06:00
Well, there´s a difference between an improvised wall, as in the books, or a "comparably small", yet permanent wall, as in the show. I know it´s basically just a minor detail and not very important, but I´m not very happy when show producers change stuff which is canon in the original work for particular reasons.
IMHO the fact that CB has no south wall represents the whole concept of the Nights Watch in a very simple way: Protect the realm from the dangers of the North, but never, ever dare to turn against the south!
But maybe that´s just the book Nazi in me bickering and I should just go back to writing my BA thesis...  ;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Erwin on 11-06-2014, 10:06:04
Actually the Night's Watch rebelled when they've a Southern Wall! That's why they demolished the southern side.  ;)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Gezoes on 11-06-2014, 15:06:05
I promised my friend that I'd watch this shit if he'd watch Breaking Bad. Currently neither of us has started doing anything about it.

You are both missing out and you know it, otherwise you wouldn't be posting this. Must be hard seeing all these people having loads of fun, while you are under the impression that your not-watching will stop production or halt our viewing pleasure or something.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 11-06-2014, 20:06:01
You are both missing out and you know it, otherwise you wouldn't be posting this. Must be hard seeing all these people having loads of fun, while you are under the impression that your not-watching will stop production or halt our viewing pleasure or something.

Did I get under your skin or did someone piss in your cereals this morning?

I know very well that GoT is great, there wouldnt be such a fuss about it and people like yourself wouldnt get all antsy about it when someone tells them that they honestly dont really care enough to start watching it.

It is not hard to see people having fun since I watch the stuff that brings me tremendous amounts of fun. And I have never thought that me not watching it would have an effect on the production or whatever, dont be silly.

You, sir, are the one under whatever impressions you have right now. Does it bother you if not everybody is praising something that such a large portion of people are going apeshit about? If that's the case, good. People like that fully deserve it.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: siben on 11-06-2014, 22:06:08
No worries Flippy, you are just like me  :)
I also didn't see anything of this series yet.
We can be friends!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Zoologic on 12-06-2014, 13:06:48
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10374851_687643974635918_4858399763379897080_n.png)

I'm going to start from Season 1 tonight.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Biiviz on 12-06-2014, 15:06:39
Game of Thrones VS Lord of the Rings

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgqUI6e1T5E
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Gezoes on 13-06-2014, 12:06:14
You are both missing out and you know it, otherwise you wouldn't be posting this. Must be hard seeing all these people having loads of fun, while you are under the impression that your not-watching will stop production or halt our viewing pleasure or something.

Did I get under your skin or did someone piss in your cereals this morning?

I know very well that GoT is great, there wouldnt be such a fuss about it and people like yourself wouldnt get all antsy about it when someone tells them that they honestly dont really care enough to start watching it.

It is not hard to see people having fun since I watch the stuff that brings me tremendous amounts of fun. And I have never thought that me not watching it would have an effect on the production or whatever, dont be silly.

You, sir, are the one under whatever impressions you have right now. Does it bother you if not everybody is praising something that such a large portion of people are going apeshit about? If that's the case, good. People like that fully deserve it.

You post things like this on a regular basis, whether it's a game, movie, series. You are just wonky that you don't like something as much, hence the hype disturbs you, and by posting, you are venting your own frustration, which makes you feel good, but also in hope people might agree.

You remind me of the kid that doesn't get his way, takes his/the football home, thinking the others will have to stop playing, which of course, they won't. In fact, you are doing them a favor. If someone hits that nerve, the so-called civil and patronizing answer comes out. Such predictable human behavior is hardly worth going apeshit over. I just love piercing through it, it's just too tempting.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 13-06-2014, 12:06:35
Great analysis, but completely wrong person.  :)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Fuchs on 13-06-2014, 14:06:28
Does make me curious, what is your goal with that post, Flippy? You decide to post in a topic about Game of Thrones to state that you have no interest in Game of Thrones. It does not add to the discussion and the only thing it achieves is a discussion that clearly ends with a negative vibe..

A light case of the trolls perhaps?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 13-06-2014, 14:06:58
So now Im not allowed to post something here dear Fuchs? Out of all the posts that are posted here daily, you have issues with something I post and automatically assume it has to be some sort of trolling?

A goal? I dont know, do I need a goal for a post, since when? A lot of posts in these forums dont seem to have any sort of real reason or "goal", why should mine? And when did I say I have no interest in GoT?

My whole purpose was to say that I have yet to watch this, even thought I have had the intentions of doing so since me and my friend made a deal about it. I just simply dont have enough time to start watching it.

Take your troll-hunt elsewhere.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Dukat on 13-06-2014, 15:06:05
I have yet to watch season 4, and I'm unsure whether all those spoilers are any good for me.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kubador on 16-06-2014, 13:06:27
Damn that season finale.

Spoilers ahead.

Briann vs Hound was so exciting and I rooted for both but I knew one of them won't make it. I really feel sorry for Sandor Clegane.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 16-06-2014, 16:06:06
===========================================
****S4 E10 SPOILERS***

 Again, i have not read the books, so everything i watch is brand new
===========================================

 Many story lines were tied up nicely in this episode, but the number 1 surprise was the arrival of "The one true King Of The Seven Kingdoms"

 I mentioned earlier that I favored Daenerys to win the game of thrones, but now they show her not being able to control her dragons..........

 Stannis has not been a character that i have liked & they have presented him as kinda evil in my eyes, but I like John Snow & he seems to respect him, so now i dont know what to think of Stannis

 I was glad Tyrion's storyline ended the was it did, but is he really gone forever. I would assume he was not an important character from the books to the main story, but he is a fan favorite so........

 House Lannister seems to be falling apart & they have many enemies........

 Cant wait for season 5.


 ;)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Sander93 on 16-06-2014, 20:06:12
Stannis    they have presented him as kinda evil in my eyes,

Personally he strikes me as quite a good an honest man, who would be a good king. He just seems a bit evil because he's very straightforward with most things and especially about the sacrifices that will have to be made to put him on the throne. I kinda like that though. At least he's the only man in Westeros who actually gave a shit about helping the Night's Watch defend the realm against a hundred thousand wildlings trying to cross the borders.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Lightning on 16-06-2014, 20:06:47
Best episode yet, I think. The story moved forward more in this one episode than the entire rest of the season.

Only bits I didn't like were the skeletons from Army of Darkness and the fireballs. Also minus one point for not including coldhands.



I was glad Tyrion's storyline ended the was it did, but is he really gone forever. I would assume he was not an important character from the books to the main story, but he is a fan favorite so...
You mean Tywin, right? Tyrion's storyline is clearly not over.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 16-06-2014, 21:06:57
I missed the crotch-shot.

Oh and Sandor wasn't supposed to die that way! Why didn't the little Stark bird kill him? That was unnecessarily cruel. He almost cried god damn it. Yeah, I rooted for him. Brienne came across like a lunatic Lannister sellsword."ARYAAaaAAAA"

Stannis! I didn't expect to see him there but coming at the last minute in the battle south of the wall. Anyway, I wonder how things will go on from here
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Sander93 on 16-06-2014, 21:06:23
Stannis! I didn't expect to see him there but coming at the last minute in the battle south of the wall. Anyway, I wonder how things will go on from here

With the Lannisters in turmoil I hope he marches south and takes King's Landing, so we can have a huge battle between Stannis and Danny afterwards.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Fuchs on 16-06-2014, 22:06:38
Pff, people thinking Sandor died. Takes a lot more to kill a bloodthirsty hound.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 16-06-2014, 23:06:33
I was glad Tyrion's storyline ended the was it did, but is he really gone forever. I would assume he was not an important character from the books to the main story, but he is a fan favorite so...
You mean Tywin, right? Tyrion's storyline is clearly not over.

 Tyrion is going into exile, so I figured that would be it.

 :o
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Fuchs on 17-06-2014, 21:06:39
Ah so Arya's storyline also ended? And Varys? And I guess Danaerys was just a side-show since she is also on another continent.

Tyrion's grand adventure is only just beginning. Interesting to see if they will make him and Varys a buddy comedy.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 17-06-2014, 21:06:40
Ah so Arya's storyline also ended? And Varys? And I guess Danaerys was just a side-show since she is also on another continent.

Tyrion's grand adventure is only just beginning. Interesting to see if they will make him and Varys a buddy comedy.

 That would be interesting.....

 ;)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: TASSER on 26-08-2014, 03:08:24
Hey guys,

I've started reading the books (unfortunately after having seen all the TV seasons first). I'm through GoT and ACoK (books 1 & 2) and am nervous about how to proceed with my reading. I have a pact with my brother that I won't read ahead of the TV series. He and I watch it together, and it's a blast to be surprised by things together. I understand books 3, 4, etc. get a little muddled in terms of a timeline, so I'm wary.

How far should I read without getting ahead of the TV series?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kubador on 26-08-2014, 04:08:01
You can easily read book 3. I'm reading book 4 and perhaps screw the TV first books later rule as I can't wait so long for season 5. You can also read the Knight of the seven kingdoms and it won't spoil anything for you as the story is set earlier than GoT.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: TASSER on 28-08-2014, 01:08:55
Thanks Kubador. I'll likely just end up reading all the books :)

Also, in case this hasn't been posted before, BOOM: http://quartermaester.info/

Interactive map of Westeros. Links to info on all cities and houses, see the paths of the characters through the book (controlling what chapter/TV episode you've read/seen). Nifty stuff.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kelmola on 09-03-2015, 21:03:44
Threadmancing because the second trailer for S5 is out today. Are you hype yet?

Also, the trailer already blatantly hints at several plot points from TWOW...
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kelmola on 12-04-2015, 05:04:35
Where were you when episodes 1&2 leaked (with rumours of 3&4 and possibly 5&6 being uploaded later today)?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 12-04-2015, 07:04:21
Where were you when episodes 1&2 leaked (with rumours of 3&4 and possibly 5&6 being uploaded later today)?

 I must investigate!

 ;)

Update: Season 5 episodes (1 - 4) confirmed leaked!

Get it while its HOT!


You know nothing HBO............

 :-X
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: TheSpectre on 12-04-2015, 07:04:08
roger that!
first episode was already awesome !
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 12-04-2015, 11:04:10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMhfbLRoGEw
Avast me mateys! Download Dat plunder and open the BOOTY!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kubador on 12-04-2015, 15:04:43
Wait, what? This is awful, now I'll have to wait 4 weeks for the next new episode :(
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Zoologic on 12-04-2015, 15:04:09
I am undecided with S5. This is where the book and the movie starts to differ big time.

I read few book-based spoilers about Robb Stark's actual honorable death in the supposed Red Wedding. Instead of being the hormonal teen king found himself in trouble.

Deary me... now I am confused.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 12-04-2015, 15:04:51
I'll prolly watch it when the entire season is out. Watched the complete four seasons last spring right after the last of season 4 came out, was a good enough series to binge watch but I still dont get why people would start selling their relatives over this series.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: TheSpectre on 12-04-2015, 16:04:58
I still dont get why people would start selling their relatives over this series.
maybe for the same reason we dont get why you would do that for other series?
wondering about things of subjectivity is pretty pointless ;)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 12-04-2015, 18:04:29
I wouldnt sell my relatives over a TV-show, but for completely other reasons.  :-X
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Dukat on 12-04-2015, 18:04:42
[...] but I still dont get why people would start selling their relatives over this series.

Probably because the characters all extreme in their psychological orientation. Nobody is sane there. This is pretty much like the real life I got to know.

It is the same as with Al Bundy. You gonna ask yourself: 'Who leaked our family home videos, guys?'
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: TheSpectre on 12-04-2015, 19:04:04
I wouldnt sell my relatives over a TV-show, but for completely other reasons.  :-X
so are you saying now you meant that "selling" literally ? dont gimme that shit -.-
its ok to dodge my statement but at least do it with style -.-
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 12-04-2015, 19:04:35
Yes, absolutely. Everything literally.

 8)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 12-04-2015, 19:04:08
I'll prolly watch it when the entire season is out. Watched the complete four seasons last spring right after the last of season 4 came out, was a good enough series to binge watch but I still dont get why people would start selling their relatives over this series.
I'm with you there.  It's not HBO's finest work. 
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: TheSpectre on 12-04-2015, 19:04:03
Yes, absolutely. Everything literally.

 8)
of course you didnt mean it literally. come off your high sarcasm horse
but u acted like it to answer my statement and make it look stupid....
seriously is this how a global moderator acts here on this forum all the time?with an disgusting sarcasm attitude?
then something is fundamentally wrong here, prolly should turn my back on it after such a short time. what a shame... good bye
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Dukat on 12-04-2015, 20:04:03
^^
I'm not sure what you guys are actually fighting about. I don't see big offenses anywhere here.
Some would sell their families for the series, some would do it literally, some would not.

I think Flippy is somebody who would sell his family for a lot of things, actually, even though he would do not in this case.


Anyway, I can't wait to see new Sansa. Still hoping for a sex scene. ;D

Sophie Turner Interview (Game of Thrones Season 5) - BIFA 2014  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4vU7EHqYqQ)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ts4EVER on 12-04-2015, 20:04:56
Anyway, I can't wait to see new Sansa. Still hoping for a sex scene. ;D


I don't want to watch Littlefinger fuck a teenager...  :-X Anyway, haven't downloaded anything, somehow I don't have as much enthusiasm for it as usually. Maybe best to concentrate my free time on the next patch for now.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Dukat on 12-04-2015, 21:04:45
I don't want to watch Littlefinger fuck a teenager...  :-X

Me neither. If there is a sex scene, the least expectable is a actual fuck. If it is just me, she doesn't even have to get undressed. Nakedness is overrated anyway. Well, maybe you didn't see and anticipate the change about Sansa comming up as much as I do. At least I hope there will be a change. Her character witnessed enough for one to happen. :D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 12-04-2015, 22:04:50
I don't want to watch Littlefinger fuck a teenager...  :-X

Me neither. If there is a sex scene, the least expectable is a actual fuck. If it is just me, she doesn't even have to get undressed. Nakedness is overrated anyway. Well, maybe you didn't see and anticipate the change about Sansa comming up as much as I do. At least I hope there will be a change. Her character witnessed enough for one to happen. :D

 You both are crazy. I am anxiously awaiting the porno spin off called of course....

Game Of Boners

 ;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 12-04-2015, 22:04:48
There actually is at least one porno version of GoT that I know of called Game of Balls.  :P
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 12-04-2015, 23:04:42
I'm almost positive Game of Bones is.  Better pun, too.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 12-04-2015, 23:04:37
Definitely so.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kelmola on 13-04-2015, 00:04:12
The two porn versions I know of are Game of Bones (yes, Bones, not Boners) and This Ain't Game of Thrones XXX.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 13-04-2015, 11:04:32
Anyway, I can't wait to see new Sansa. Still hoping for a sex scene. ;D


I don't want to watch Littlefinger fuck a teenager...  :-X Anyway, haven't downloaded anything, somehow I don't have as much enthusiasm for it as usually. Maybe best to concentrate my free time on the next patch for now.
She's 19 now
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Redbadd on 13-04-2015, 12:04:34
^^
They're just overcompensating. Deep down its all they can think about.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Dukat on 14-04-2015, 01:04:10
There is a difference. In a porn you watch people you don't know and their bodies for the sake of sex, but in a TV series the characters are well known when you watch em having sex for the sake of their characters.


Very funny video:

Dumb Ways to Die (Game of Thrones Edition) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgemU-kMvOE)

Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 14-04-2015, 05:04:39
There is a difference. In a porn you watch people you don't know and their bodies for the sake of sex, but in a TV series the characters are well known when you watch em having sex for the sake of their characters.

Even Better!

 :D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Zoologic on 14-04-2015, 07:04:24
Dukat, you could have improved German porn industry in terms of storytelling immensely.

Have you considered trying?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Dukat on 14-04-2015, 13:04:56
I have doubts that people who consume porn have interests in an adhesive story. Such attempt would be a non-starter.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 15-04-2015, 10:04:06
8 million live viewers for S5E1. Looks like the leaking dint affect the viewers at all. New record for GOT
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Khaine on 15-04-2015, 10:04:34
8 million live viewers for S5E1. Looks like the leaking dint affect the viewers at all. New record for GOT

This leak was obviously on purpose, everybody talked about it, there is no way you could not have been aware of the season 5 premiere after that, great job hbo, what will you do for the next season ?? ;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 15-04-2015, 10:04:08
8 million live viewers for S5E1. Looks like the leaking dint affect the viewers at all. New record for GOT

This leak was obviously on purpose, everybody talked about it, there is no way you could not have been aware of the season 5 premiere after that, great job hbo, what will you do for the next season ?? ;D
Naked sophie turner
please..
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 15-04-2015, 12:04:56
8 million live viewers for S5E1. Looks like the leaking dint affect the viewers at all. New record for GOT

This leak was obviously on purpose, everybody talked about it, there is no way you could not have been aware of the season 5 premiere after that, great job hbo, what will you do for the next season ?? ;D

 They leaked 4 episodes ahead of schedule as a promotional stunt?

 Not likely....

 ::)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: RAnDOOm on 15-04-2015, 15:04:02
Off course it was on porpuse. That is why no HD versions where leaked. Only low quaility crap.

And it worked like a charm for them.

Well done i say.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Sander93 on 15-04-2015, 18:04:41
I doubt it was on purpose, they don't care about downloads nor the popularity on the internet. The only thing that is important for HBO is viewer ratings, which probably drop when half the world has already seen leaked episodes online instead of having to wait for the TV broadcast.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Airshark79 on 15-04-2015, 19:04:34
Well it seems the ratings have already improved so
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: VonMudra on 15-04-2015, 20:04:50
https://xkcd.com/552/
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 02-06-2015, 00:06:03
I dont care anymore if the series are in line with the books

Hardhome was an insane episode...Probaly belongs with the top 3 episodes of the entire show..
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 02-06-2015, 04:06:57
I dont care anymore if the series are in line with the books

Hardhome was an insane episode...Probaly belongs with the top 3 episodes of the entire show..

 Yes, "Hardhome" is top 3 for sure.

 Here is a must read article: http://collider.com/game-of-thrones-hardhome/#what-is-valyrian-steel

 Martin is progressing slowly on "The Winds Of Winter", so i would not be surprised if they venture off into "Make believe" territory in season 6 & not follow the books.


I'll still watch....
 ;)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 02-06-2015, 05:06:32
Yeah Hardhome was good.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: VonMudra on 04-06-2015, 00:06:01
Jimi, from what I understand, Martin has consulted heavily with the producers and writers on how the books wrap up, as well as the actual ending.  Though that still means that there will be a lot of differences, both the books and the TV show will be following the same base plot, and ending in the same manner.  So yes, there will be deviations, but none of them will change the over-arching plot.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Airshark79 on 07-06-2015, 22:06:40
HOLY SHIT FUCK YOU D&D YOU FUCKING RETARDS

Yeah I've seen the early screening.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 07-06-2015, 23:06:11
Not sure what shark is going on about up there,

 but the infamous episode 9 for the 5th season is upon us.



 ;)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Airshark79 on 07-06-2015, 23:06:58
Oh you'll see.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 07-06-2015, 23:06:44
Good that theres something to look forward to.

EDIT: Well, fuck. That was quite something.  :-X
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Airshark79 on 08-06-2015, 06:06:16
They dun' fucked it up! That's for sure. These two assholes have been mildly fucking up the best character for the entire series, last episode they did just cover the guy in shit, while the guy didn't even burn anyone, at all in the books.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 08-06-2015, 07:06:45
 Well that BBQ was a real shame but hey.....

 Are there saddles for Dragons?



 :P
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Airshark79 on 08-06-2015, 07:06:18
Yeah there are saddles for dragons.

I hope in the next 30 or so years we get a version of this piece of crap without the character assassination bullshit. They took it too damn far, especially after what we know from the TWOW excerpts. Goddamnit, they didn't put in the clansmen, the manderlys, the karstarks, and the goddamn freys, and Stannis not burning anyone, they might as well just kill off this piece of shit altogether. But no let's have Sansa in winterfell for no fucking reason, while she and littlefinger already (effectively) have an unscathed army already in vale! Let's forget about vengeance against the idiot freys altogether!

Stupid retarded writers this season's been shit except hardhome.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ts4EVER on 08-06-2015, 16:06:18
IIRC GRRM confirmed that the thing with Shireen will happen in the books as well (maybe in slightly different circumstances).
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 08-06-2015, 16:06:04
 Yeah shark i agree, it was in pour taste with the writers, but apparently George R. R. Martin told them to put it in as it will be in the the next book.

 But don't forget Stannis murdered his own brother to take back his own army that Renly stole so......


 ::)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 08-06-2015, 20:06:34
Book fanboys going overboard again. I enjoyed this episode

Probaly will enjoy the parts of the books way better tough
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Airshark79 on 08-06-2015, 22:06:40
I draw a parallel between the shadow baby and a drone strike. If it's possible and considered humane in modern world then surely it is defendable in a medieval fantasy.

However, I agree shireen will probably die. But the battle of ice in the books is between a BAMF and a bunch of assholes, with the best premise yet. But now I cringe so hard everytime I look at the battle of winterfell, and especially what it could've been with all the other players and interactions. Right now we have two well established assholes, one of which has become so comical that they are incapable to make any mistakes and the other one is downright insane!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: DLFReporter on 09-06-2015, 10:06:48
You're just unhappy with how your favourite character turned out. And he DID burn people in the books. On Dragonstone and at the Wall! ;)

I'm a book 'fanboy', but have also been able to enjoy the show because I see them as two versions of the same story. Not competing, but showing a different spin on how things could have gone down.

IMHO Stannis is spot on in character. He believes in his crusade and that the end justifies the means. And he is stone cold at heart... the burning heart on his banner is pure sarcasm. ^^
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Airshark79 on 09-06-2015, 10:06:23
So he was trying to save the kingdom first and then rule it in the books, and he's on a mad rampage in the show against enemies that cannot make a mistake and have no worries behind a wall.

To be fair, they just tied together some events that were supposed to happen. In a terrible, absolutely horrible way, much like what happened in dorne, they turned some characters into absolute protagonists and the rest into different shades of villains, there are no redeeming qualities for the show stannis and you just can't say "I can live with that" for some of his mistakes like in the books when things like in the show happens. They spinned his punishment against traitors into simple sacrifice for example, and they've been spinning many events that happened to him in the books in a negative light rather than just neutrally present to the show watcher.

Meh.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: DLFReporter on 09-06-2015, 11:06:51
"I can live with that."  ;D

But come on, he would have already sacrificed Edric Storm on Dragonstone weren't it for Davos, who more or less is Stannis' conscience.
The show does a great job on its own to bring the story into a watchable line. The Dorne Storyline was just too far away and how they wrapped it up is imho just fine.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Airshark79 on 09-06-2015, 13:06:23
Well, the answer, who wouldn't? It's more or less a magic homing missile. But goddamn the child is too damn far. And this will change how the whole world views this guy compared to shireen being lynched or killed without his consent. Butterfly effect.

About dorne, the choice of characters was a mistake, so the delivery was problematic.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: DLFReporter on 09-06-2015, 15:06:58
Magic homing missile?.. ah you are referring to a shadow assassin. Iirc Melisandre just needs to have sex for that.
Shireens sacrifice will offer a bit more to the starving army than a single shadow baby.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Sander93 on 10-06-2015, 07:06:34
there are no redeeming qualities for the show stannis and you just can't say "I can live with that"

There is one. He is the only ruler in Westeros that actually cares about the events in the north (which he showed by saving the Night's Watch) and the only one who seems to care about the Seven Kingdoms at all.

And he's willing to do anything to become king and save everyone since he strongly believes that is his destiny. 
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Zoologic on 10-06-2015, 16:06:43
The movie has a lot of minor differences that it start to make the characters completely different.

They need to kill Jeyne and show 21st century hormone-filled teen love experienced by medieval coming-of-age "King of The North" Rob Stark. I saw the TV episode first and then the book, then I felt that the TV Rob and "book" Rob is seriously different. Somehow the screen writers thought that it is logical and more realistic to make the young adult king fell in teen love. They seriously need historical lesson. Even in China, the sons of Emperors, famous Generals, Heroes, rode to their first battle around 15-17. Just like in ancient Europe, they ruled over thousands of unruly men. It was entirely different time, and I know it must be very difficult to think of their peerage from 21st century. When I was 15 years old, I couldn't even properly employ somebody, let alone organising a marching army.

From that moment on, I start to see the TV series in different light. It is the GoT with different interpretation. Yeah, definitely, they are made by modern people with slightly less regard to time setting accuracy.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: DLFReporter on 12-06-2015, 08:06:51
Actually there have been quite a few lovestruck and hormonally insane rulers in medieval Europe who came to power by chance in an early age and then went bonkers.
Riding to war at an early age is also nothing special, even ordering guys around when you have a 'good' family name. If that makes you more adult or less prone to teen afflictions I can't say. ;)

Anyhow, I wouldn't say that they are disregarding the time setting... When it comes down to it, GoT is fantasyso I'd rather look for something like that in the Tudors or Borgia for a good time setting.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Zoologic on 13-06-2015, 12:06:12
Yes, there are some young rulers spoilt by the wealth and power of their family.

But they need to show that in a different time, people behaves differently. It used to be okay to accept living in poverty, but now, people began flinging off their wealth and comfort through Instagram, so everybody wants to get rich. Religion used to be the guiding principle in everything, even in morale. Religion used to represent the more civilized and advanced thoughts in civilization. Then, butlers, like Bruce Wayne's Alfred are proud about their job despite their meager income, and treated like family. They can have a say in family matters despite not being your relative. Kinda like how Jon Snow or Theon can become "brothers" or how Ser Rodrik can sometimes be "above" Stark boys. Now, during the segregation era, black people are treated worse, but many of the successful ones are 100% gentlemen of class that is rare in 21st century, and still they are discriminated against due to their skin colour. As a minority, I also faced with the slightly similar situation, like "my culture" being suppressed (not allowed to celebrate Lunar New Year, learning Mandarin publicly is banned, etc). But honestly, I felt nothing during my childhood. That is probably why many of the bastards in GoT universe can just accept what they are, as long as they life comfortably.

That was the bygone era, such prevalence can't just exist in today's militant minds. It is as if people wanted to rewrite the history to suit their needs. However, this is just a minor scuff, GoT settings in overall is still beautiful and well done.

On the other hand, strange things from the history like Mozart's fecal fetish, Einstein's playboy behaviour, or how composer during the classical era were "poor but with class" (akin to 70s prog rock lyrics). We never seen these characters in a movie with historical setting, except in some European movies. Why? Too strange to be non-fiction?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 15-06-2015, 20:06:53
Sorry you all GoT lovers but the finale was rather dull, just like the season overall. It had only a few really interesting moments but I'd rank this season very low in my books. Doesnt mean this season was bad, it's still really great quality but I think this was perhaps the weakest season. Finale especially felt kinda underwhelming.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Airshark79 on 15-06-2015, 20:06:56
Yes, the writing suffers when they don't tread on the source material, especially seeing stanley "robert"ing his way to the finale.

God I fucking hate the way they killed off so many characters just to streamline the story and to unclog the slow character development bits in the book.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 15-06-2015, 20:06:20
By now you shouldnt even think about the series being an adaptation of the book, seems to be the best way to enjoy the series if you are into the books. Of course it'll be difficult to not draw pararrels.

To me this is not a problem because I would never have the patience to read any of the books anyway.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Fuchs on 17-06-2015, 04:06:18
What's puzzling to me plot wise is that they removed fAegon. In S1 we have Varys trying his utmost best to kill Dany only to reveal he's working to put her on the throne. The only reason his plan is working is because Jorah the Andal decided to fall in love with the silver haired bitch.

Show angle of Stannis is weird but I'll take it, his last line was classy.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Sander93 on 17-06-2015, 06:06:36
Show angle of Stannis is weird but I'll take it, his last line was classy.

It's the first time in five seasons we don't get to see a character die in full view, I don't believe he's dead.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Fuchs on 17-06-2015, 19:06:20
To be honest, I hope he died. Show kind of raped the Stannis I knew and loved from the books. The show follows this logic of "bad guys win" which is kind of becoming very predictable and boring.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Airshark79 on 17-06-2015, 19:06:33
I really dig the idea of him not being the chosen one not because he is defeated but because he dies at the hand of the others. He's made it so far and it's gonna be just so anticlimactic if gurm kills him off by the boltons.

Anyway I am starting to feel like they already dropped the ball with season 4, because they omitted lots of events and characters that led them to connect the made up events very poorly.

Also it will be something colossally retarded if they didn't kill him to pull some ninja shit or to give up his claims to join the nights watch.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kelmola on 17-06-2015, 20:06:57
Show and book Stannis are both self-righteous, stubborn, and incapable of any kind of compromises, which proves to be their undoing. Stannis has always been all about using any means necessary to get what is rightfully his, no matter the cost or how others would feel about it. So burninating Shireen is just the logical next step (he already burned his in-law and tried to burn his bastard nephew). Sure, he is not that desperate yet in the books, but who knows what will yet happen... except the people who have a direct line to Gurm?

As long as TWOW is not out, screaming about "character assassination" is pointless. We do not know the particulars of how and why Shireen will be burned in the books, only that she most certainly will because the fat man told so to D&D&D. Now, it may be that Stannis will win the Battle of Ice but will still lose the Battle of Winterfell and in his desperation orders Melly to burn Shireen. For all we know, a raven bearing these very words might have caused the commotion that leads to "For the Watch" in  the books (if the Queen's Men, including ser Patrek, intend to burn Shireen, the wildlings and Wun Wun might rustle their jimmies a bit). Or it may be that Melly will burn Shireen on her own initiative in order to resurrect Stannis whom she thinks to have died as stated in the Pink Letter (absent from the show), whether true or not. But as long as we do not know, let's just wait.

However, pulling a "JR shot at the mirror instead of himself" would be a cheap trick as far as Stannis's fate is concerned.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Airshark79 on 17-06-2015, 20:06:48
Book stanley is actually a good listener and can read into events, the karstark incident for example, more than show stanley.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 17-06-2015, 21:06:56
I don't think Stannis stands for Stanley.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Airshark79 on 17-06-2015, 21:06:17
^^ Dunno
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 17-06-2015, 21:06:51
 Don't worry about who will win the Game Of Thrones.....


 The White Walkers will crush all.......


(http://static4.businessinsider.com/image/556c413becad041909828fec-1200-706/nights%20king%20rising.jpg)





 ;)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kelmola on 17-06-2015, 22:06:49
Consider the following:

What if the three major finale deaths were not deaths but just fooling the viewer?

Jon's death is obviously temporary (if even that) for apparent reasons
Stannis would now have to redeem himself - maybe by rallying the Stark loyalists in the North (which he did in the book but not in the show) and driving the remaining Ironborn out before he could REMOVE FLAYER with their support?
Perhaps Myrcella did not die but will just be disfigured by the poison instead (comparable to her losing one ear to Darkstar "of the night" Dayne in the books)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Fuchs on 18-06-2015, 01:06:27
Show and book Stannis are both self-righteous, stubborn, and incapable of any kind of compromises, which proves to be their undoing. Stannis has always been all about using any means necessary to get what is rightfully his, no matter the cost or how others would feel about it. So burninating Shireen is just the logical next step (he already burned his in-law and tried to burn his bastard nephew). Sure, he is not that desperate yet in the books, but who knows what will yet happen... except the people who have a direct line to Gurm?

As long as TWOW is not out, screaming about "character assassination" is pointless. We do not know the particulars of how and why Shireen will be burned in the books, only that she most certainly will because the fat man told so to D&D&D. Now, it may be that Stannis will win the Battle of Ice but will still lose the Battle of Winterfell and in his desperation orders Melly to burn Shireen. For all we know, a raven bearing these very words might have caused the commotion that leads to "For the Watch" in  the books (if the Queen's Men, including ser Patrek, intend to burn Shireen, the wildlings and Wun Wun might rustle their jimmies a bit). Or it may be that Melly will burn Shireen on her own initiative in order to resurrect Stannis whom she thinks to have died as stated in the Pink Letter (absent from the show), whether true or not. But as long as we do not know, let's just wait.

However, pulling a "JR shot at the mirror instead of himself" would be a cheap trick as far as Stannis's fate is concerned.

I think people take the things characters say about Stannis for granted while he has shown himself to be far more compromising and less rigid than thought. He even has a sense of humour. Plus he would never burn his own daughter, not in the books, he sends out Ser Justin Massey with the specific order to make Shireen queen if he falls in the upcoming battle. What Melisandre and Selyse are doing at the Wall with Shireen, that's a whole different story.

http://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/39wt32/spoilers_all_relax_the_upcoming_battle_in_twow/

This is a very good read about what might happen to Stannis in the next book. Personally I'm also a fan of the theory that Stannis will be Lord Commander nr. 1000. After he has lost all, he goes there. No lands, no glory, no wife, no kids.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Sander93 on 18-06-2015, 07:06:29
Personally I'm also a fan of the theory that Stannis will be Lord Commander nr. 1000. After he has lost all, he goes there. No lands, no glory, no wife, no kids.

That doesn't really fit with his (the show's) character though, as he is completely convinced he is the one and true heir to the throne and he has shown he will do anything to be king of Westeros. Even burning his own daughter if that's what it takes.

I don't think such a man would accept defeat and go live out his days at the wall. I think he'd rather commit suicide upon realizing he failed 'his destiny'.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ts4EVER on 18-06-2015, 11:06:09
He is still the Mannis. He went out like he lived: not like a little bitch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NqhUMdyDmc
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Fuchs on 18-06-2015, 22:06:30
Personally I'm also a fan of the theory that Stannis will be Lord Commander nr. 1000. After he has lost all, he goes there. No lands, no glory, no wife, no kids.

That doesn't really fit with his (the show's) character though, as he is completely convinced he is the one and true heir to the throne and he has shown he will do anything to be king of Westeros. Even burning his own daughter if that's what it takes.

I don't think such a man would accept defeat and go live out his days at the wall. I think he'd rather commit suicide upon realizing he failed 'his destiny'.

This is a book theory, I should've made that clear. In the show I think Stanley Barton will go with Brienne to fetch Sansa, doubt they killed him.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Fuchs on 19-06-2015, 17:06:23
http://watchersonthewall.com/more-casting-info-for-game-of-thrones-season-6/

Previously confirmed were the Tarly's but now we also seem to be getting a new Greatjon and perhaps Lord Manderly. Also..

Quote
Legendary Fighter:  A man in his thirties or forties who is a great swordsman and a paragon of knighthood. He carries a famous sword.  The show is seeking a very impressive swordsman for the role- the  best in Europe, for a week of filming fight scenes for a season 6 role. His ethnicity/race isn’t specified, unlike many other roles.
Ser Arthur Dayne, anyone? Tower of Joy flashback incoming.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Airshark79 on 20-06-2015, 20:06:43
Prrrobably.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Zoologic on 27-07-2015, 17:07:55
Stannis shows compromise when he rode North, abandoning his passion for King's Landing.

Varys is another major plot hole, a deemed Targaryen loyalist, yet so adamant to killing the last of the Dragons by "for the realm" excuse at first. He is repeatedly shown trying to pitch the Lion against the Wolf to that Pentosi guy. I think it started to make the TV series seems weaker by days. The season 5 was rather slow and throw in all the climaxes at the end. The finale was so abrupt, unnecessary, and easily predictable.

Nothing beats Season 2 or Season 3. Season 4 was modest, but great. Season 5 is the worst (amongst GoT shows, but overall still a brilliant show) I guess.

Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Fuchs on 28-07-2015, 03:07:48
Stannis shows compromise when he rode North, abandoning his passion for King's Landing.

Varys is another major plot hole, a deemed Targaryen loyalist, yet so adamant to killing the last of the Dragons by "for the realm" excuse at first. He is repeatedly shown trying to pitch the Lion against the Wolf to that Pentosi guy. I think it started to make the TV series seems weaker by days. The season 5 was rather slow and throw in all the climaxes at the end. The finale was so abrupt, unnecessary, and easily predictable.

Nothing beats Season 2 or Season 3. Season 4 was modest, but great. Season 5 is the worst (amongst GoT shows, but overall still a brilliant show) I guess.

The Varys plot hole is solely because in the books he's not what he is in the show and Season 1 is very close to the books. You must remember how adamant he is about killing the girl and that the only thing that saved her is Jorah Mormont, not Varys pretending to kill her.

On hindsight they should've dealt with that in Season 1, but they probably also tried to stick closer to the books in the beginning, that fell apart after Season 2 though. Such a shame because Varys' plan was way cooler than this anti-climatic reveal.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Zoologic on 28-07-2015, 17:07:08
I re-watched Season 1 to remember what it was like. I tried to see things from both Varys and Littlefinger's POV, because it seems that the destiny of most of the characters in GoT (the TV) is pretty much plotted by these two clever fellows. Of course, Littlefinger failed his objective, because Eddard being daft, Robert being the typical drunkard, and Joffrey is mad.

Varys failed as well because Cersei is a smartarse, Joffrey having mental issues, and Tywin also being similarly tight-arse and daft like Eddard. This also brings me to question Tywin's motive. Yes, it was Joffrey who makes him wield more power. But he can clearly controls Joffrey, why try to appease this grandson of him, who behaves way more unruly than a whoring bastard dwarf could ever possibly do? Clearly the plot writers missed a lot of things. The book probably offers more interesting explanations, but the TV show is beginning to show more and more chinks in the armour.

My biggest gripe is Robb Stark, he has a lot to proof, because I watched his arrogance in Season 1. The prideful and unruly Northerners even found a shred of humility to grant him the title "King of the North". Shows how much tolerance they gave this hormonal boy. He won the war yes, but repeatedly dismissed his advisers. "Pass the sentence must swing the sword" my arse. He broke a vow, yet beheaded his distant relative for a dissent because he has to . It kinda makes it easier to re-watch the Red Wedding numerous times. In the book, he is a much more honourable and true-to-the-words responsible young man.

I guess, it won't be as exciting, but I just want to see the end. I know that guile, cunning, and wisdom wins. People who are too stuck with his/her goals in the end will fail or die trying. Both Petyr and Varys failed many of his objectives, but they are extremely flexible. Tyrion has the most and modest goal of all with all that 3 winning traits. He might have loved a woman, but he found the courage to lie to save them both. Jon Snow, yes, he is too stiff with his love, compassion, and honour... but it is the only way for him to be honourably discharged from the Night's Watch vow. Unlike Robb, he didn't broke any vow if he left the Night's Watch after he dies, since the Watch ended when a Night's Watch died. Jaime, Bronn, Margaery, Olenna are these kind of surviving characters. Cersei will die. Loras too. Jorah might. Daenerys could (if she is no longer important to the plot). Tommen possibly. Grey Worm likely.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kelmola on 28-07-2015, 23:07:17
Both in the show and in the books, Varys might be still betting on all horses. Won't get into book spoilers here, but based on show alone---

Varys did send a warning to Ser Friendzone, trusting that he would stop the assassination. Remember, it's he anyway who will arrange for it so he could just as well have purposefully picked a sloppy assassin to guarantee Jorah's succesful rescue.

On the other hand, when the assassination is actually ordered, Dany is not yet the heir apparent: Viserys is. By having Khal Drogo's wife killed and letting the blame fall on the King of Westeros, Drogo and his khalasar would have no choice but to invade unless they want to be the laughing stock of the entire Dothraki, conveniently putting a Targaryen on the throne in the process (which is what almost happens because of the attempt alone). Of course, unknown to Varys, Viserys (being the arrogant oaf he is) gets himself killed before the assassination can even take place, but there you go. (He could have had a built-in failsafe that in case Viserys is dead for whatever reason, the inept assassin gets the job.)

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Regarding Robb Stark, both in the books and in the show he's a horny teenager who follows his wiener when he should have followed his duty, and does not listen to his advisors even if one of them is his mother. On the other hand, the same advisors failed by not taking into account that he's a horny teenager: let him have as many concubines as are required to snog him silly when he's away from his betrothed, and most importantly, keep him from thinking of "falling in love", bah, that's a bard's tale. But all things said, being KINGINDANORF he should have remember that he should not cross his most important ally at the moment, it was his duty to his bannermen and people. (Yeah, there is a possible side plot in the books that may have affected his decision, but nevertheless.)

Also, Robb might be tactically talented, winning every battle, but he's strategically impaired. When his little war is all but lost when The Mannis loses at Blackwater (due to both kings stubbornly refusing any sort of compromise or Lord of Light forbid, an alliance, until their common enemy is actually defeated), the KINGINDANORF still has delusions of grandeur of somehow winning the war alone, even if all his victories are due to never engaging the enemy directly (leading to the utter devastation of the Riverlands in the process). "Late" Frey and Rusemeister B are survivors, and both have to think about their duty to their vassals too; if Robb has his way he keeps on dancing around the Lannister-Tyrell forces to the end, while Lannisters will raze Riverlands to the ground unopposed and take the Twins and Moat Cailin and cut off Robb's escape route to the North, while the unopposed Ironborn keep razing the North to the ground. Sure, Robb could launch a suicidal end run to Casterly Rock and burn that down and then what? He's a thousand miles behind enemy lines in a burned shell of a city.

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Regarding the end, Gurm's original plan was to have Bran, Arya, Jon, Daenerys, and Tyrion to survive (at least) until the grand finale, but no details were given regarding their fate, so everything here is my speculation.

Sansa was not a designated survivor, is it bad news, or not? Though, there is clearly a sexual tension with the Hound (yes, it's even more creepy in the books), who was not shown to have explicitly died. In any case, we would have been already shown both in the books and in the show if Rickon was in any real danger, so he's most likely to make it too and inherit Winterfell (since a tree cannot inherit and sons inherit before daughters). Arya could still become "no one" which is kinda unlikely - her kill list requires her to return to Westeros which she will no doubt somehow accomplish. If she survives, she could become a formidable Master of Whispers. Also, since Gurm's original plan (still apparent in the first book and season, slightly less in later books and seasons) was to ship Arya and Jon, the ending will be "bittersweet" as promised because they cannot marry each other even if they both survive and are no longer half-siblings (only cousins) because duty will require that a resurrected Jon (as if we didn't see that coming) will have to marry his aunt Daenerys in order to unify the realm. Jon's and Dany's bastard cousin Tyrion (the third head of the dragon) will end up ruling as their Hand.

Walder Frey and his kin are walking dead, what with Jon's imminent resurrection, Arya's kill list, and certain other major things from the books that have not yet been in the show. Roose is soon going to be loose against his psycho son (or vice versa), wouldn't be surprised if they kill each other.

Tommen is a goner, Cersei is herself going to cause Maggy the Frog's prophecy to be fulfilled where she will only die after "her tears have drowned her" because "gold will be their shrouds". Considering she's a paranoid alcoholic who even without these traits would be unfit to rule even a single castle, she is most certainly not going to make it either. (The second part of the prophecy is omitted from the show, won't spoil that in case Dungeons & Drogons are going to use that for Season 6 still.)

Jaime, his redemption arc will end with him dying while saving the realm from the Mad Queen (having done the Mad King previously) - namely, Cersei.

Jorah, well, I'm writing him off too because greyscale will most likely drive him to sacrifice himself before he becomes a Stone Man, though he should make it back to Westeros to cause a new epidemic there, it was foreshadowed enough in S4 (a character so far omitted from the show gets the disease in the books, though Jorah is no less self-destructive there either for reasons).

Oh, and since both show and books make it such a big deal that Shireen taught Davos to read, I would bet that as the new King's and/or Queen's - whoever those might be - scribe, or even Grand Maester, he will record in the annals the Song of Ice and Fire.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Airshark79 on 05-08-2015, 23:08:22
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uC-YKu24So
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 05-08-2015, 23:08:35
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uC-YKu24So
that was...pretty spot on
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kelmola on 06-08-2015, 00:08:43
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uC-YKu24So
that was...pretty spot on
Not much in the way of proofreading apparently: first Hitler tells everyone who is not a Dany fan to leave yet rants against her later, also, "Boltons" is never capitalized, one sentence is missing the beginning "defeated hundreds of thousands of wildlings".

Alas, Stannis supporters will never quit ranting because the fat man will never complete TWOW that would blow them out of water.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Dukat on 16-02-2016, 14:02:10
I'm a bit slow, but there is this new teaser, 2 days old. Spoiler warning.

Game of Thrones Season 6: Hall of Faces Tease (HBO) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmrA8nOZF2Q)

I'm just watching season 5 after not having watched for about a year. I forgot some things that appeared to be unimportant. Maybe someone knows.

1. The squire of Brienne of Tarth, who's son was he? He was supposed to better leave King's Landing, I just don't remember why.
2. That young boy who is with the sparrows, that got the pentagram carved into his forhead, later blaming Cersei for her sins, where did he came from? How does he know? I really can't remember.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: th_battleaxe on 16-02-2016, 15:02:40
Brienne's squire is Podrick Payne, son of Ilyn Payne. He probably had to leave King's Landing due to him being associated with Tyrion. (At least, that's what I remember)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kelmola on 16-02-2016, 20:02:17
That young boy who is with the sparrows, that got the pentagram carved into his forhead, later blaming Cersei for her sins, where did he came from? How does he know? I really can't remember.
Lancel Lannister, cousin to Cersei and Jaime. Back in S1 Cersei seduced him (frakking him well into S2) and had him spike King Robert's wine so that the boar would kill him. (Of course, in the books he is only one of many men with whom Cersei exchanges sex for services.)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Dukat on 17-02-2016, 01:02:52
Wow. You're really good. Thank you.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Zoologic on 17-02-2016, 18:02:15
Either spike or give him "too much" wine during the hunt.

Then, Lancel was in the fight when Stannis tried to invade King's Landing. He was wounded, dumped, and forced to remove Joffrey from the battle, nearly risking defeat. All of the sudden, we saw him already with the fanatics.

Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kelmola on 18-02-2016, 00:02:35
The wine could have been stronger than usual, or fortified wine - one would assume that an old drunkard like Robert would know his limits. But that's where most of the fun is in ASOIAF, speculating and cooking up new theories! ;D

Another thing that's easy to miss in the series is that Lancel is the son of Kevan Lannister ("Uncle Kevan") who was recalled to King's Landing after the death of Tywin (they are both reintroduced in the same scene very quickly, and not much attention is paid to the father-son dynamic).
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kelmola on 08-03-2016, 23:03:24
#‎whatishypemayneverdie‬ ‪#‎cleganebowl‬ ‪#‎confirmed‬ ‪#‎gethype‬
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuH3tJPiP-U
I CHOOSE VIOLENCE
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 08-03-2016, 23:03:19
Looks pretty damn good
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kelmola on 26-04-2016, 00:04:02
Whew. Talk about the worst episode in the entire series.

Will give the spoiler-averse one more day to watch, then I'm ranting without spoiler tags.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 26-04-2016, 00:04:44
Whew. Talk about the worst episode in the entire series.

Took me around 4 hours to watch this. Maybe even more actually. Very weak start.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Zoologic on 26-04-2016, 16:04:26
Some say, they killed too much character for the sake of shock value. Now they left with none, not many interesting enough character with proper background story-telling has survived the gratious killing.

Season 5 went very predictably, up to the very last moments. Where Benioff was obliged to shock the audience once again.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: VonMudra on 26-04-2016, 17:04:12
Have to say I was not happy to see the coup in Dorne go down- it seems against the story telling to just eliminate that rather interesting power struggle in a single fell swoop.  That said, I doubt that it's not happening in the books, so you will only have Martin to thank.

In other news, I am looking forward to seeing more Davos being awesome.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kelmola on 27-04-2016, 19:04:47
That said, I doubt that it's not happening in the books, so you will only have Martin to thank.
It's not the end result, it's how it's done in the show. The scenes were badly written and badly acted.

Of course, the premise itself sounds like a farce. The /snek/ want to avenge their father (and aunt Elia) - and do it by killing his (and her) brother and nephew, their own uncle and cousin (whereas the guilty people, Tywin Lannister, and as far as they know, the Mountain are already dead)?

Surely, there would be a lengthy process leading into this with much consideration and hand-wrangling leading up to this (instead of ten minutes of screentime we got last season), and escalation of events, until the Sand Snakes see no other option to save the entire Dorne, and this is simply the lesser of two evils? Alas, no. Dorne as a nation is still safe and sound precisely because Doran kept away from the War of the Five Kings and does not play the Game of Thrones (tm). To add insult to injury, the Dornish Master Plan from the books is completely cut - which would have proved to the viewer and the Snakes that Doran does play the game indeed, but an extremely long and careful one at that - as are Doran's two elder children, Prince Quentyn Not-apperaring-in-this-show Martell and Princess Arianne Not-appering-in-this-show Martell, who evidently now aren't going to survive the books. Not that it was ever unclear for Quentyn, except in the most harebrained theories...

Sure, the "people" (who have never heard of the DMP either in the books or the show) are supposedly on Ellaria's and Snakes' side, as is evident from the other guards who just stare into nothingness during the murders, but this was not developed in any way, because SURPRISE. Also, if the people are on the Snakes' side, why kill the poor scared Maester? What was he going to do, anyway, he was just scared with people being killed around him? Even in bloody, lengthy sieges Maester are customarily spared because they serve the Citadel and their office, not the master of the castle they are deployed at (plus it won't do to anger the Citadel, lest they send someone like Qyburn).

Further, kinslaying is one of the two most horrific taboos in Westeros, right there along with the breaking of guest right (which made House Frey social pariahs overnight even though they were on the "right" ie. winning side of the war). Surely, this would at least cause a little bit of hesitation, or guilt, or even make it feel like a duty, not a pleasure? As if. The Snakes are practically laughing with joy and make witty jokes as they murder their own flesh and blood, as if they were Boltons on their mothers' sides everyone.

Oh, and Areo Hotah, who could have taken down Jaime when Jaime still had both hands and who is built almost like the Mountain, is instakilled by one seemingly effortless dagger thrust?

Prince Trystane, upon hearing that the Snakes have come to kill him, sword in his hand, turns his back to the Snake with a spear and faces the one with the whip instead? (Hint, one of these is a nonlethal weapon.) Was he so depressed of his fianceé's death that he himself had a deathwish? Come to think of it, why on earth did the Snakes even warn him? Did they have a deathwish too, or did they know of Trystane's deathwish? It's not like it's risk-free to take on someone in close quarters even 2 to 1...

I do realize that D&D never wanted to do the Dorne plotline in the first place and were half-forced to it by producer Cogman, and this is their way of cutting the plotline short after the mandatory introduction of three interchangeable characters (who were distinct personalities in the books), and that the plotline does not amount to much even in Gurm's books, but at least there was the Plan and Doran's "fire and blood" speech there. (Plus at least in the books the Snakes at least pretend at first to go along with Doran's plans after hearing he's indeed playing the game - also, instead of trying to kill Myrcella, they originally planned to crown her and presumably off Tommen in the process...)

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But the episode does not end with this buffoonery. Supposedly, we have seen how Jaime has, since losing his hand, grown up from a cocky and arrogant manchild into a responsive adult, who has become estranged from Cersei because of her paranoia, alcoholism, and obsessive behaviour, who is weary of war and yearns for peace and reconciliation rather than vengeance. No, suddenly he makes a 180 turn and is suddenly again in love with his sister and wants to serve revenge raw.

I'm still willing to give this scene a benefit of a doubt, if Jaime is just pretending to say to Cersei what she wants to hear (but to what end?) - and this only because the letter to Uncle Dolan is written by Jaime. Zooming in on the screen, Jaime says in the letter that he knows Doran was not behind the poisoning but suspects Ellaria, and warns him to be careful and tellls that he's going to send Trystane back because he fears for his safety in King's Landing. Sounds like written by a different man than the one talking to Cersei.

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Oh well, then we come to the pointless river-crossing scene that breaks all suspension of disbelief. Theon has been a hostage ward of the North for most of his life, and as all Northmen are trained to hunt and make war, he has no doubt been taught how to move in the wilderness too (witness his OPERATOR skillz when he counter-ambushes the Wildlings back in S1). Sure, he's a summer child, but the "seasons" of Westeros are more like cyclic superseasons (there are "midsummer snows" and "midwinter thaws"), and even if it had been a completely snowless summer, WINTER IS COMING, so I doubt that Starks would not prepare their children and wards for all the dangers a winter may entail.

Where am I getting with this? Because he must know that if you cross an icy river with clothes on you will quickly die of exposure (hypothermia) unless you can change into dry clothes afterwards and/or can dry yourself at a nice big fireplace or campfire. If you absolutely have to do such a stunt with no dry clothes or warm premises on the other side, then the only correct way to do it is to strip naked (how did D&D pass this opportunity?), carry the clothes above your head to keep them dry, then on the other side, still naked, roll in the snow because snow absorbs moisture much better than air, and then redress in the hopefully still mostly dry clothes.

The Boltonmen and the dogs following them (and Brienne & Pod) I can accept being on the other side dry - they could have used a nearby bridge to cross the river, as they did not have to break the trail. Apparently they guessed that when the trail ends at the river, the two fugitives have crossed it since nobody can walk for long in icy water. But Theon has been raised in Winterfell so why does he cross the river right next to a bridge, thinking that the pursuers wouldn't guess what has happened?

As is, the entire scene serves no purpose. Theon and Sansa could have felt cold even without any suicidal river crossing, maybe they didn't have thick enough clothing on them when they jumped off the walls.

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Ser Twenty of House Goodmen is apparently at it again, this time clumsily retconning a clumsy retcon. You see, when Fabio captured the Meerenese fleet, it was said to have the exact number of ships that Victarion Greyjoy's Iron Fleet had in the books when it started for Meereen. This was when GoT was planned to end after seven seasons, not eight (though now D&D are again threatening with only 7 or 7½ seasons, possibly to extort more moolah from HBO beancounters), so cutting away or minimizing the Ironborn made sense... no wait, in the trailers we see YarAsha making out with a Volantese harlot (the tear tattooed below her eye gives away her ethnicity and profession), so apparently YarAsha (and possibly Theon too) will replace Victarion and deliver the Iron Fleet to Dany. Only that now there was an extra fleet to be disposed of...

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...and considering the Harpies just tried to murder everyone associated with Dany, does Tyrion have a deathwish too since he's wandering all alone in the streets of Meereen (I doubt that Varys and his little birds are that good bodyguards)? Just how many well-dressed blonde dwarfs are there in Meereen he could be confused with? I doubt that the Unsullied were all killed...

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Finally, Alliser Thorne's explanation how he followed his orders, except for the stabbing, feels really forced and unconvincing. Yes, he was arrogant and self-righteous and hated Jon's guts, which is why it would have been better to have him not be part of the actual stabbing (just like he was absent in the books), just being most certainly aware of the plot but not actually doing anything so he could wash his hands from the debacle. Or then just cut that speech altogether, or at least have him not explain anything, or even be fake-shocked by the assassination.

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Melisandre's final form (as implied in the books) and Davos's dry humour were the only saving graces of the episode, really.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Zoologic on 29-04-2016, 19:04:09
Raving reviews from ever biased and annoying British media reminds me of their similar reaction to "Spectre".

It was total utter complete rubbish.

I was aware of Jamie's broken-heartedness. But it seemed to be forced, since he was never sold in the story as a father figure from the start. More like a man and his ego. So, don't know where all his rage come from. Yet Guardian tells us that it is now "them" (Jamie and Cersei) against the world. Crikey.

GoT sounds like a young adult novel, typically laden with a lot of hormonal last minute emotional influences. Perhaps it is not inadequate script writing, but more like young adult fan fiction of GoT.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: VonMudra on 29-04-2016, 22:04:22
That said, I doubt that it's not happening in the books, so you will only have Martin to thank.
[insert your mega-awesome diatribe]

Yeah, I totally agree with basically all your points.  They basically torpedoed the entire Dorne storyline, and now can only hope to recover from it..
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 24-05-2016, 00:05:30
hold the door.....
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: VonMudra on 24-05-2016, 00:05:21
He held the door.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 24-05-2016, 01:05:07
Finally a good episode. The first half of the season was mediocre at best. Hopefully it keeps this up.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 24-05-2016, 12:05:25
I was sad to see the children getting wiped out

But the way the white walkers were created= holy shit this i did NOT see coming at all
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kelmola on 24-05-2016, 20:05:55
Still enjoying immensely, because the quality returned to what it used to be after the disaster of this season's first episode. Still, some things irk me to no end, like...

...time travel paradoxes in MY ASOIAF? It's more likely than you think! And I still don't like it (even though with perfect hindsight, the books implied the possibility, but left it still open as of ADWD). So which disasters were caused by Bran trying to "fix" history? Which prophecies are his voices in the head? Is the Lord of Light future Bran? Did he talk to Varys from the flames?

Hodor's death was genuinely tragic, however: he experienced his own death which drove him mad, and ever since then he has known how he will die, and being warged by Bran, can do nothing to stop it. Which is probably why he went catatonic now and already once before in the abandoned tower (when they also had to close the door to hide from wildlings and Jon they didn't recognize, and Bran went warging).

But still, "pitele ovea" ==> Hodor. You could have told the translators decades ago, Gurm.

The Children's bioweapon going out of control and blowing up on their own faces too was a nice twist, though. I wonder if that is why "there's always a Stark in Winterfell" - the Children agreed to an armistice and helping to build the Wall to protect both them and Men, but only on the condition that the North will be ruled by the First Men who worship the same gods. Or, in even a more ghastly turn of events, if the first Night's King was a Stark, then it's also a punishment that the Starks must guard the realms of Men against their former kin.

Okay, so the Faceless Men upped the difficulty level, and instead of sending Arya to off some sleazebag put her to watch her dad's execution all over again and tell to kill a relatively nice person. Shouldn't they help her to become desensitized to violence and blindly "just following the orders" by letting her kill all sorts of undesirables first? Unless, of course, it's all just theatre and that they know that she will never be "no one", but hope to manipulate her to their own ends even after she escapes?

Calling it now, Ser Friendzone will seek healing from the Citadel and inadvertently spreads grayscale to Westeros but doesn't die himself and runs into Sam.

As for RamRam, he went full retard by offing Rusemeister B at the worst possible moment politically. Nobody believes his excuses, and Umber flat out tells him to frak off and certainly won't support him after the Wildlings are dealt with, and Karstark reminds him that they have more Stark blood (and there's always a Stark in Winterfell). With friends like this, who needs any enemies?

Also, it seems that R'hllor only allows resurrection after his priest loses all of her faith (cf. Thoros of Myr). R'hllor is an atheistic god? It was a nice touch that Ghost was made "part" of the ritual, even though the show doesn't have Jon warging, it still fits.

The drowning scene reminded me, that since the Ironborn have an obsession with resurrection, they will probably gladly accept the lead of Jon & Dany, both of whom have died and reborn in a way no Drowned Man could resurrect anyone.

Dany is becoming a villain episode by episode, what with her ranting about FYRE AND BLUD all the time. Good eye whoever noticed that the image of her walking out of the Khals' funeral pyre closely resembles the Eye of Sauron.

#TarthBane for teh win
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 06-06-2016, 21:06:19
Game of thrones season 6 episode 7 was decent






The last scene however...made me think of one thing........"heeeeeerrresss Sandor!"
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 06-06-2016, 21:06:54
I thought this one was actually a good episode.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: VonMudra on 07-06-2016, 03:06:57
I liked it quite a bit too.  Looking forward to Sandor kicking some ass, the Blackfish being baller, and Arya hopefully killing the Waif.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Zoologic on 07-06-2016, 14:06:49
After killing too many characters for the sake of presenting realism and grim political game scene, D&D finally settled for a season of fan services?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: NTH on 21-06-2016, 00:06:36
A fleshy episode ...
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 21-06-2016, 01:06:20
Sansa's stupidity and the need to be remotely relevant in the snow - snow conflict is infuriating.

spoilers below

Spoiler
Seriously, could she not have told Jon about the fucking relief cavalry incoming and therefore save hundreds of lives? Since that is the main goal of this expedition, right? As Davos put it, "Unifying the North for the only war that matters, between the living and the dead".
Now, the only army standing is the Vale army, under Littlefinger who is free to blackmail the both of them. So all in all, Stannis and his army perished, Bolton's Bastard's army perished, Snow's army (or whatever that was) also perished, and now who's gonna take on the Others? Wasn't THAT the endgame?

But yeah she just thought it would be cool for her to do a little "deus ex machina".
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Hjaldrgud on 21-06-2016, 02:06:52
Couldn't agree more.

Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 21-06-2016, 22:06:52
Well, she did said "i dont know anything about battles"
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: VonMudra on 21-06-2016, 23:06:50
I suppose the logic is that she had no idea that Littlefinger was coming with a massive army, only for Littlefinger to find her during the battle and was all like "Yo Sansa, check dis out"
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 22-06-2016, 00:06:10
Well if she told her half-brother about it maybe they could've gotten a more definitive answer, eh?

And MAYBE they'd not lose almost everyone.

Also, remember when the wildlings attacked the wall? Remember that giant who shot a Night's Watch brother with an arrow and sent him flying down to castle black?

He had a bow and arrow you see.

Now why was it so hard to give Mr. Wun Wun a log, a spear, a club, or just a bunch of rocks for him to hurl at the Bolton's Bastard's army? Or that giant bow, for that matter? Could've nailed Ramsay from the get-go.

Or give him some armor at least? Yes, I know, he's a big motherfucker, but they did have the time and the steel to make it. Some northern house might have helped.

Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kelmola on 22-06-2016, 00:06:17
Well, whatever plan there was would have gone out of the window anyway when Jon Snow went LEEEEEEEEROY JENKINNNNNNS which Sansa specifically warned him about. Ygritte was right, he's brave but stupid. His stupidity nearly got him killed, and cost him apparently 100% of his cavalry and nearly all the infantry - made all the worse because Ser Onion suddenly decides that all their archers should also charge in the melee instead of, say, staying in the reserve and waiting until the bulk of Bolton infantry is committed and arrowing/charging them in the rear.

Also illustrated is how discipline and formations mean that a force consisting of even mediocre soldiers is infinitely superior to a horde of undisciplined warriors, no matter how "fierce". (There's also a terrible disparity in equipment to overcome, but come on, even wooden shields for the Free Folk would have evened the odds immensely.) The director in the making of videos is so focused on recreating Cannae - where two roughly similar armies met - that he forgets that for example in Alesia, Caesar's legions became surrounded by numerically superior Gauls and still came out on top due to their discipline. Ummm, now I will have to actually backpedal: Jon's army would probably not have fared very well even if everything had gone according to the original plan, if the Boltons had simply turtled down behind a shieldwall if they ever became surrounded.

Though, without Jon & co. tying up the Bolton infantry, a cavalry charge even by numerically superior Vale knights would have had a hard time trying to crack a square of pikes. Outside of The Lord of the Rings, horses usually don't want to charge and impale themselves on a forest of sharp things pointed their way, so a cavalry charge should preferably be made to the flanks or rear. Though it takes iron discipine to have infantry hold the line when a wave of massive beast carrying heavily armoured knights thunders towards them, and preferably long and strong enough spears/pikes to take the impact (and outrange any lances the cavalry has) if some horses are foolhardy enough to press the charge home.

Also, who piled up all the bodies into a neat wall? We are shown that the dead are falling all over the battlefield, so they should have formed a roughly circular, quite flat disc on the ground, if even that.

Why didn't anyone have the brain to fell even a single tree so Wun Wun could have had an useful weapon with MASSIVE advantage in reach? (Because then there would not have been a Bolton shieldwall which the director apparently wanted.) EDIT: Ninja'd by PanzerKnacker

When cornered, why didn't Wun Wun simply grab a spear of a Boltonman by the shaft, he does have the reach for that easily? It's not like the other guy had had the strength to resist. (Was Wun Wun so afraid of sharp things too? Ah well, the answer is already above.)

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Was still epic though. :P

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To be fair, RamRam did have a few flaws in his master plan too: like Stannis, he apparently does not bother with scouts (who could have warned him about the approaching Vale host), and he callously orders the archers to volley an area where most of the combatants are his own (causing nearly 100% casualties to his own cavalry too) which should not exactly gain favours in the North. Somehow, I doubt that the Umbers' war cry "Who rules the North? WE DO!" refers to the Boltons in any way, so had Ramsay won, the victory would have been pretty short-lived.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: VonMudra on 22-06-2016, 00:06:39
The biggest thing I wanted to see was the Bolton soldiers turn on him.  After everything that happened, I thought it was building up to Smalljon or Carstark turning on Bolton, at least after it was clear he had lost.  Sadly, that was not the case.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Sander93 on 22-06-2016, 08:06:11
Or give him some armor at least? Yes, I know, he's a big motherfucker, but they did have the time and the steel to make it. Some northern house might have helped.

If you pay attention to details they have clearly illustrated in all episodes featuring the guy that he is not as strong as he seems to be. I don't know the exact details, but the bigger something is the weaker they are (on relative terms). His organs are probably struggling to keep him alive as it is, his muscles can probably  barely support his own weight. He always looks tired and has pretty poor motor skill. IMO he was clearly not fit to wear armor. I agree they could have given him a log or something though.

And about Sansa, who says she actually knew Littlefinger was coming? As far as we know the only thing she did was sending a note. I doubt she would've received an answer. The Vale Knights probably arrived just at the moment we actually see them arriving.

Although the battle itself had a few silly details (the tactics, the giant, the pile of bodies) the filmography was absolutely amazing. The first scene where the cavalry charged as brutal.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 22-06-2016, 08:06:16
the cavalry charge was almost as glorious as the Charge of the rohirrim for sure
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ts4EVER on 22-06-2016, 13:06:10
Nice reference to the Battle of Cannae.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: THeTA0123 on 27-06-2016, 23:06:35
Now that was one epic episode....
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: NTH on 28-06-2016, 00:06:24
The king in the North and now I finally remember who is mother was... Gotta reread the books.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: VonMudra on 28-06-2016, 05:06:05
Fucking christ Cersei.

Honestly, loved the episode other than the Cersei explosion.  I REALLY wanted to see Margeary's plot continue, since it was quite obvious she was up to scheming.

That said, I get why what happened happened.  I do feel strongly now that we are going to see Jamie kill Cersei, just as he did the Mad King.  I almost feel that it's gonna end with her screaming to burn everyone to the ground as the Targarion army draws near, and Jamie finally being pushed to the brink by that as he remembers/flashes back to the Mad King.

Sorry for spelling erros, typing fervently on ipad x3
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 28-06-2016, 16:06:53
>Be me
Spoiler
>Daughter born to Ned Stark and Catelyn Tully
>Widow to the last Warden of the North
>Procure an army and save my half-brother, a bastard and a deserter of the Night's Watch from certain defeat
>Get usurped by the same bastard in the fashion of sword-swinging and "KING IN DA NORF" roaring
>Fuck succession rules, I guess.


>Be me
>Free the slave cities and give people liberties
>Gather a giant army and fleet (and air force)
>Leave Daario, a killer and a mercenary, to rule over Mereen and spread democracy
>Go take over a monarchy in Westeros
>Logic



>Be me
>Mother of the king
>Decide to kill everyone who ever opposed me
>Blow up the greatest temple to the main religion in Westeros
>Kill hundreds of innocents
>Kill my own uncle, Hand of the King
>Kill an entire high lord family
>Effectivelly turn most of the southern kingdoms into enemies
>Sit on the Iron Throne
>Just stop giving a fuck

Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kelmola on 29-06-2016, 01:06:40
>expecting a paranoid alcoholic to make rational decisions
Even though it's actually toned down in the show, it has been apparent for the best part of three seasons now that Cersei and her sanity are parting ways at an accelerating pace, which is not helped at all by her ever-increasing wine binges. She was an amoral plotter and heavy drinker already before, but Joffrey's death was the breaking point - she basically lost it and sees enemies everywhere and gives zero fraks because she's psychotically obsessed by "Maggy's" (12-year old's translitteration of "maegi") prophecy (the death of all her children, the younger and more beautiful queen displacing her, and the valonqar strangling her to death, latter being omitted from the show) and tries to desperately prevent it (yet is half-resigned to the idea of the prophecy being unavoidable), and soothes her suffering with more wine.

In the books, this is even more pronounced, she goes full-on Stalin and basically whenever she feels someone is not supporting her enthusiastically enough she tries to have him/her killed, often relying on overly complex plots whose success rate is about the same as those of one Wile E. Coyote. It's not like arming a violent cult just to curtail the influence her daughter-in-law has on her son is an idea that could go wrong in any way...

The irony is of course that it is her own actions to prevent the prophecy that fulfill the prophecy: she never said "no" to Joffrey which led to his assassination (since Olenna understandably wants to protect her granddaughter from the Westerosi Psycho Jr.), she starts meddling with Dorne that probably will lead even in the books in Myrcella's death, and when trying to destroy the cult she raised, she blew up Tommen's wife, mentor, in-laws, uncle, and at this point, Tommen may not even know that she was not in the Sept and he always was the too sensitive one, so what did she expect really. Also, by killing and betraying left and right, she's created so many angry younger siblings (which valonqar translates to) that practically anyone (besides first-born) could fulfill the prophecy of the valonqar at this point (she's herself still convinced it's her valonqar and it's Tyrion, not Jaime who is also her little brother).
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 29-06-2016, 15:06:59
 Im interested to see who Arya kills next.

 She is basically unstoppable now.


The List:

Cersei Lannister: falsely accused Arya’s father, Ned Stark, of treason and had him arrested, which led to his death
Ilyn Payne: beheaded Ned on orders from Joffrey Baratheon
Gregor “the Mountain” Clegane: tortured and killed people at Harrenhal, where Arya was imprisoned
Sandor “the Hound” Clegane: killed Arya’s friend, Mycah, the butcher’s boy
Melisandre: took Gendry away
Beric Dondarrion: sold Gendry to Melisandre
Thoros of Myr: sold Gendry to Melisandre

I assume she will head to King's Landing before the Targaryan Army arrives in an attempt to cross off more names on her list.

 ;)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: VonMudra on 29-06-2016, 16:06:48
I believe her list is now only Cersei, Ilyn Payne, and Gregor Clegane.  She took Sandor Clegane off it, and I don't recall her ever reciting the other three you listed.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Zoologic on 29-06-2016, 19:06:52
Didn't she said that Ser Ilyn Payne was just performing his duty?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: VonMudra on 29-06-2016, 21:06:08
Did he?  I don't seem to recall that.  Last time I remember hearing her list it was Payne, Cersei, and Gregor Clegane, and that's it.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Zoologic on 30-06-2016, 09:06:17
Melissandre should be there as well, for kidnapping Gendry.

Now, I remember that when she is conversing with The Hound. I thought, he was removed because the actor portraying ser Ilyn Payne is terminally ill, and retired from the show.


Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Hjaldrgud on 30-06-2016, 13:06:50
I'm glad for the explosion.The religion conflict was stale six episodes ago. It bored me to tears.

Only thing that sucked was that mai waifu was killed. (Natalie Dormer)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 30-06-2016, 14:06:39
Only thing that sucked was that mai waifu was killed. (Natalie Dormer)

Im happy they blew Lady Smirkface up.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Zoologic on 30-06-2016, 14:06:18
Do you know that Natalie Dormer is 34 years old? Making her quite a predatory cougar when she advanced on Tommen. She is qualified MILF already.