here's a funny fact
Did you knew the PZIV's ausf H gun needed to be in range of 400 meters to penetrate the M4A3 shermans hull? in reality?
And since FH2 range is applied to 500 meters
I know that´s no good source, but if you also look at Wikipedia and look for the Churchill Mk. IIIs frontal armour which is 102mm on the hull and 89mm on the turret front and then compare it to the 88mm/L56 penetration-values it doesnt sound unlikely to me. The penetration of the 88/L56 with regular ammunition alone was 91mm @1500metres. The Flak 18 with the Panzergranate 39 (common shell) had a penetration of 97mm @1500 metres. So a hit in the turret could possibly well take a churchill out. With special ammunition a penetration did have better chances.
It´s definatly better than saying "lol churchill didn´t get penetrated at all".
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Churchill_%28Panzer%29 (german words for it are Wannenbug and Turmfront)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8.8_cm_KwK_36 (in this case the slightly different 88 from the tiger)
http://www.achtungpanzer.com/88mm-flak-series-flugabwehrkanone.htm
Edit: This is no rant, but I just don´t believe that 88s were totally ineffective versus Churchills. I don´t doubt that they didn´t fight them properly on Kidney ridge but in theory they could have when aiming for the tower.
You look at wikipedia
Every german item wiki page is filled with ooh so praised articles bout HOW super awesome it was
Go check the same thing for allied equipment..They are filled with articles bout how BAD it was.
Michael wittmans victory at villers bocage? called a skillfull attack and usage of heavy armour!
The battle of a few KVS at Krasnogvardeysk where they ripped trough the 8th panzer devision?
For a YEAR it stood on wikipedia that it was an unfair battle because german tanks couldnt penetrate the KV's armour. They had to bloody hell LOCK the article up because of german fanboys constant editing it twisting it to there side. And historians still do this today. I see the exact same thing Day after day on every militaria fair where people have been brainwashed believing that everything german was supertoll. Siben can agree with me here.
And the Flak 88's did fired at the churchills, and they DID fired at the turret and in one tank they managed to penetrate it.
Here you go.
But hull penetrations? Forget it. They dint managed a single penetration.
Besides, it was never even proven that LT Appleby's tank was penetrated by german guns, because they came under friendly fire aswel
Can you please for once get your ass out of your constant german religion and accept that the germans also got there asses kicked in the war?