Battlefield 3

[Natty]

yea well... if it isn't perfectly working, it's quuuiiite understandable they arent shipping with it

[Ciupita]

in-game VOIP usually sucks anyway.

wtf happened to my post? who removed word VOIP?

[Eglaerinion]

VoiP via battlelog works but most people I know prefer mumble/teamspeak/ventrilo.

[Natty]

precisely. clan people and others will find alternate means of communication. For the rest, it's better to have no Voip than a broken / not finished Voip. Same goes for battlerecorder.. not really needed at all, but a "nice" if they get it done later.

+ reviewers arent voip-type players 

[Biiviz]

Dedicated VoIP programs usually feature a much wider range of settings, making them superior to in-game counterparts.

[Natty]

Yes ofcourse... they're developed by companies that has specialized in those products...  Thing is, most players dont want to bother with external applications, they just want to press "play" on the game and go.

what is funny though, is that when it comes to voip etc, some players have no problem with external apps like skype, TS or ventrilo, but when the game requires a 3rd party app to run (Origin, Punkbuster) there's immediately whine 

[Flippy Warbear]

People whine about PB? Thats a new one. I thought that wouldnt cause much of whine due to it being part of the installation process (optional as it may be, but most of the times _required_). I can understand having to download extra and going through trouble to get to the subject you were trying to reach causes a lot of unwanted and not-needed rage. Programs such as Steam and Origin.

[Leopardi]

By far the single biggest problem in BF3 in one picture:

[Thorondor123]

Now you are just being delusional.

Criticise as you wish but please try the game before you come up with something like that.

[Natty]

Leopardi, those comparison images would have a much greater impact / relevance if you added both actual distances in meter, as well as the scale vs speed ratio between the games. 20meters in BF2 might not be the same as 20meter in BF3 if you add size of models, speed of movement, destruction, Field of View etc etc....

Just paint-paste one map on top of the other without any of these facts^ included, only makes the post look like tr   lling.

[Yustax]

Leopardi, those comparison images would have a much greater impact / relevance if you added both actual distances in meter, as well as the scale vs speed ratio between the games. 20meters in BF2 might not be the same as 20meter in BF3 if you add size of models, speed of movement, destruction, Field of View etc etc....

Just paint-paste one map on top of the other without any of these facts^ included, only makes the post look like tr   lling.

Actually. The map is gigantic. In all versions, the problem however is that DICE cut down the playable area. For example, in Operation Firestorm; you have a gigantic and a very, very big map. However; the playable are is very small, with....all the flags concentrated in the center. I really dont know why DICE would do this, instead of giving us the majority of the map to play.

The same happens in Caspian Border; you have much more of the map to play but it's an unplayable area. I just wonder why 

[THeTA0123]

All aboard the "super fast paced Gameplay where kills mather" train?

[Leopardi]

Leopardi, those comparison images would have a much greater impact / relevance if you added both actual distances in meter, as well as the scale vs speed ratio between the games. 20meters in BF2 might not be the same as 20meter in BF3 if you add size of models, speed of movement, destruction, Field of View etc etc....

Just paint-paste one map on top of the other without any of these facts^ included, only makes the post look like tr   lling.

Look at the runways! And considering the fact that you can with much slower jets than BF2, be flying over enemy main base within 10 seconds, this comparison seems very correct. The distance between BF3 flags are made so you can reach them by sprinting a few seconds, think about how much you would have to run in Highway Tampa to reach another flag on foot?

It's basically only one big clusterf*** in the middle, and jets flying away from the battle area because they can't do anything to infantry even if you hit them directly and infantry can shoot them down with stingers.

[NTH]

All aboard the "super fast paced Gameplay where kills mather" train?

I'll take the train any day instead of riding the "Let's turn this game into Hide&seek" wheelchair.
On a more important note, when are you going to send my some Mattetarten ?

[Eglaerinion]

Leopardi, those comparison images would have a much greater impact / relevance if you added both actual distances in meter, as well as the scale vs speed ratio between the games. 20meters in BF2 might not be the same as 20meter in BF3 if you add size of models, speed of movement, destruction, Field of View etc etc....

Just paint-paste one map on top of the other without any of these facts^ included, only makes the post look like tr   lling.

Look at the runways! And considering the fact that you can with much slower jets than BF2, be flying over enemy main base within 10 seconds, this comparison seems very correct. The distance between BF3 flags are made so you can reach them by sprinting a few seconds, think about how much you would have to run in Highway Tampa to reach another flag on foot?

It's basically only one big clusterf*** in the middle, and jets flying away from the battle area because they can't do anything to infantry even if you hit them directly and infantry can shoot them down with stingers.

Dude you barely even played the beta if you're posts are anything to go by.