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Would you like to be able to fire from vehicles again?

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Offline Torenico

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Re: Petition for enabling firing from vehicles again
« Reply #120 on: 30-01-2011, 07:01:47 »
See? You want to balance Tanks vs EveryoneElse battles.

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I really wouldn't see the harm in allowing shooting from jeeps - people don't use tanks properly either most the time to big whoop.

And no. I kind agree with shooting with SMGs or Rifles from Jeeps, but as long as there are no Bazookas involved, well im cool then.

Dont like tanks? Well, like you said before, do something else ;)
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Re: Petition for enabling firing from vehicles again
« Reply #121 on: 30-01-2011, 08:01:19 »
Quote from: Torenico on 30-01-2011, 07:01:47
See? You want to balance Tanks vs EveryoneElse battles.

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I really wouldn't see the harm in allowing shooting from jeeps - people don't use tanks properly either most the time to big whoop.

And no. I kind agree with shooting with SMGs or Rifles from Jeeps, but as long as there are no Bazookas involved, well im cool then.

Dont like tanks? Well, like you said before, do something else ;)
Not really a matter of balance for gameplay, but say.. well if we can let this "unrealistic ability" slide with tanks, what is the harm with doing so with non-tanks... when it really isn't even that unrealistic..

However, now we're just getting extremely repetitory, either because or language barriers or you just don't understand, but I don't feeling like repeating myself - go back through my statements if you want a reply to this.
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Re: Petition for enabling firing from vehicles again
« Reply #122 on: 30-01-2011, 09:01:17 »
Whatever, i dont feel like, banging my head on this anymore.

I'll make clear what is my point of View.

Firing SMGs/Rifles/Pistols from these Cars: Good.

Firing AT Guns from these Cars: Bad.

Dropping Frag Grenades and/or AT Grenades: Good.

We happy? Can we stop this?.
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Re: Petition for enabling firing from vehicles again
« Reply #123 on: 30-01-2011, 21:01:52 »
Lol, we won't get it back because tankers are afraid of jeeps ::)

Simple server rule forbiding many bazookas in jeeps and voilà...
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Re: Petition for enabling firing from vehicles again
« Reply #124 on: 30-01-2011, 21:01:49 »
well, then image that all servers have that rule and thats why you cant do it .
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Re: Petition for enabling firing from vehicles again
« Reply #125 on: 30-01-2011, 21:01:40 »
Quote from: Beaufort on 30-01-2011, 21:01:52
Lol, we won't get it back because tankers are afraid of jeeps ::)

You won't get it back because the devs don't like it.
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Re: Petition for enabling firing from vehicles again
« Reply #126 on: 30-01-2011, 21:01:55 »
Yeah I got that ... :|

All I'm saying is it is funny to see tankers whine about kübelschrecking and such when there is most of the time 6 to 8 tanks for ... 1 recon car.
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Re: Petition for enabling firing from vehicles again
« Reply #127 on: 31-01-2011, 01:01:29 »
Quote from: Beaufort on 30-01-2011, 21:01:55
Yeah I got that ... :|

All I'm saying is it is funny to see tankers whine about kübelschrecking and such when there is most of the time 6 to 8 tanks for ... 1 recon car.
Plus, they complain that it would be "unrealistic", however all the tanks are used unrealistically, too... so it's just the way it is because of who has the authority. Unjust, but whatever...
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Re: Petition for enabling firing from vehicles again
« Reply #128 on: 31-01-2011, 01:01:51 »
I say no, unless its SMGs or deployed MGs (if theres an option to being able to deploy MG in the frontal passangers seat) imo Schreks/Zooks/Piats were too much kicking to be fired at 60 km/h :P
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Re: Petition for enabling firing from vehicles again
« Reply #129 on: 04-02-2011, 16:02:45 »
I'd guess AT cars happened during the war considering they ended up building stuff like this :

Also, most of the time it happened in game the AT gunner was on the back seat, so the guy in the front seat could spray infantry with his smg, so no back blast involved...

Another solution on top of the server rule would be to increase the respawn time of the recon cars, like higher than a tiger or something (> 3 min) ... Good against kübelschreck squads and back cappers as well ...

« Last Edit: 05-02-2011, 10:02:57 by Beaufort »
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Re: Petition for enabling firing from vehicles again
« Reply #130 on: 05-02-2011, 07:02:37 »
Quote from: azreal on 29-01-2011, 04:01:51
This thread has gone far enough. Let me leave you with some food for thought.

The decision was made to remove the firing ability from jeeps because there is no way to represent it realistically. You have to either be able to fire all weapons or no weapons. The problem with being able to fire all weapons is that you can fire things like MGs and bazookas from jeeps. You can throw mines, deploy mortars, and fire weapons that you generally would have to lay down to fire. Also, you if you fired a bazooka in a jeep, you'd kill your squad mates with the back-blast.

Jeeps are supposed to be a scouting weapon. Get in, spot for artillery or something, and get out.

For the TL;DR crowd and the mentally deficient, the choice was on or off for all weapons ...

So it was decided all off.


Oh and deleting the dead horse is just as futile as beating it.




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Re: Petition for enabling firing from vehicles again
« Reply #131 on: 06-02-2011, 15:02:12 »
Quote from: RN_Max on 05-02-2011, 07:02:37


For the TL;DR crowd and the mentally deficient, the choice was on or off for all weapons ...

So it was decided all off.


Oh and deleting the dead horse is just as futile as beating it.







am I deficient cause i like to reload my SMG when i hop in a jeep? pffff

deleting the +-15 dead horse beating was perfect, it was decided all off ok, do you have to hit on those who discuss that bad. thanks to the one who did.



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Re: Petition for enabling firing from vehicles again
« Reply #132 on: 06-02-2011, 15:02:28 »
Quote from: Thorondor123 on 30-01-2011, 21:01:40
Quote from: Beaufort on 30-01-2011, 21:01:52
Lol, we won't get it back because tankers are afraid of jeeps ::)

You won't get it back because the devs don't like it.

So why have a suggestions forum or Natty speaking about maps being made for fun for everyone if everything is done according to a few people called devs? Doesn't make sense.
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Re: Petition for enabling firing from vehicles again
« Reply #133 on: 06-02-2011, 16:02:11 »
Youre arguing communism vs capitalism, now. The devs, and at least a 3rd of us funs dont want it.

But that 3rd is irrelevant because the devs try to 'get' that people want and veto it if it goes against their vision.

Ps. Their vision isnt just fun, if you must know.

Thats BF heroes
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Re: Petition for enabling firing from vehicles again
« Reply #134 on: 06-02-2011, 16:02:08 »
that's why it is called a suggestion.

You suggest, dev answer or consider your suggestion.

If you disagree you can still create a mini mod. You can also go and check tournament if your want.
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