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Discussion bout (future) Eastfront
« on: 24-03-2010, 22:03:44 »
Before we start, i want to get something explained first
-This is for discussing about a FUTURE eastfront in FH2. It is not to request one/fuel the fire/push the devs/tease Flippy

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The reason why i am making this thread, is that i recently became intrested about the Eastren front. Mostly the Russian army and its equipment. So
Feel free to bring it out.
-What do you want to see in an Eastren front?
-What are your hopes on one?
-Do you wanna see an early or a late, or both released together?
-If the FH2 devs stated today=We are gonna make an Eastren front, what questions would you wanna ask?
and so on and so on

Personaly, i hope we see as much as possible. The eastfront was an large divided front with many armies, equipment, tactics......and men.
While the soviets had quanity as their main ace, they also had diversity.

Example's lie in the artillery.
In the anti-tank role, they had the M1937/M1942 45MM anti tank gun, the Zis-2 57MM anti-tank gun, the Zis-3 Anti-tank/divisional field gun and the latewar BS-3 100MM gun
In the AA region, the 25MM air defense gun, the famous 3.7CM M1939 and the 76 + 85MM Dual purpose gun's.All of these above, where avaible in huge quanitities. So imo, this deserves all of these above to be added.

But let us take tanks

Their you have the T-34,T-70,T-26, KV,BT and IS series
Those where the main russian tanks, for the entire war. Not really much if you look at germany for example.

But then come's the Self-proppeled guns
 The tank destroyers SU-85 and SU100.The Self-propelled guns Su-76,SU122,Su152,ISU 122 and ISU 152. Once again great diversity.

And this is only tanks+AA/AT+Self-proppeled guns!
So my hopes is to see all of the above in an eastfront! Well expanded ofcourse. I know, this is ALOT of work,and if i could map, i'de gladly help out. But insufficient Patience+PC knownledge :)  wich i love to keep tbh :D
These are my hopes/wishlist for an eastren front

and if i had a question, i would ask
-Will T-34's/KV-1's come with their year models?
A T-34 built in 1940 was diffrent then a 1943 Model. Armor, layout and such all where improved per year(A T-34 in 1940 had 60MM armor, but a 1944 model had 90MM)
Same goes for the KV-1. A early 1940 model had 90MM of armor, but a 1941 model had a monstorous 110MM.

And i rather see an early one first, then a late. The early one would be from the invasion in 1941, to the end of stalinggrad around begin 1943. While a late one would start at the Battle of Kursk, and would end up to the streets of Berlin
I hope to see some nice mature discussions here.
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Re: Discussion bout (future) Eastfront
« Reply #1 on: 24-03-2010, 22:03:18 »
Damn it, and I was about to pull out this baby, too!   :D


Well, Let's see...


-What do you want to see in an Eastren front?  
Battle of goddamn WESTERPLATTE!

-What are your hopes on one?
Some nice Polish fronts and soviet, not sure what I like better as long as we get Westerplatte!
Edit: Also, sniper maps in Stalingrad.  Even though Enemy at the Gates was flawed, It was still a good movie and it prompted me to study marksmanship.

-Do you wanna see an early or a late, or both released together?
Both, but maybe gradual buildup and such.
« Last Edit: 24-03-2010, 22:03:33 by The Warrior (CnJ) »

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Re: Discussion bout (future) Eastfront
« Reply #2 on: 24-03-2010, 22:03:59 »
Italians with worthless equipment vs KV-1, please!
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Re: Discussion bout (future) Eastfront
« Reply #3 on: 24-03-2010, 22:03:48 »
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Re: Discussion bout (future) Eastfront
« Reply #4 on: 24-03-2010, 23:03:37 »
I want the Russians to wear those cool Pilotkas.

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Re: Discussion bout (future) Eastfront
« Reply #5 on: 24-03-2010, 23:03:45 »
There, you got Flippy excited.. in a good way.  ;)

Anyway, I suggest to start small. Winter War, after the bulge, might be a bit easier, since the snow textures should be ready. Then there's the stuff that was sent by that H-L2 modding group, the Suomi-SMG and all. Again, a (slightly) less amount of work is required. But I still understand there's a fuckton of stuff to do.
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Re: Discussion bout (future) Eastfront
« Reply #6 on: 24-03-2010, 23:03:42 »
Wouldn't it be easier to start with a snowy Russian map?

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Re: Discussion bout (future) Eastfront
« Reply #7 on: 24-03-2010, 23:03:40 »
Good point, considering the bulge in progress.. we might at least have German models that fit the snow maps and a few Panzers that are reskinned...

Personally, this will be an awesome front IF implemented differently. I would really like to see the ratwar of Stalingrad with alot of passages through houses, pipes, underground areas such as sewers and such... And a shiteload of sharpshooter spots

And let's face it, the PTRS will be the coolest of the AT rifles :-)

I sure hope mobile artillery is made more robuste by then though otherwise the Katyusha will suffer a drop in popularity in like fashion as air warfare.

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Re: Discussion bout (future) Eastfront
« Reply #8 on: 24-03-2010, 23:03:15 »
SU-76 is my favorite Russian tank and that's all i am asking  :)

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Re: Discussion bout (future) Eastfront
« Reply #9 on: 25-03-2010, 00:03:28 »
Discussion bout (future) Red-Army?

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Re: Discussion bout (future) Eastfront
« Reply #10 on: 25-03-2010, 01:03:30 »
I want the Russians to wear those cool Pilotkas.

Yes, all the cool russian hats have to be implemented, otherwise the entire front will fail

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Re: Discussion bout (future) Eastfront
« Reply #11 on: 25-03-2010, 02:03:27 »
Italians with worthless equipment vs KV-1, please!

Gotta Agree.


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Re: Discussion bout (future) Eastfront
« Reply #12 on: 25-03-2010, 03:03:49 »
German captured T-34's plz! It would be interesting to see T-34 vs. T-34 :) 
The Germans also pressed into service some KV-1 :) 
But captured equipment would make the battle more interesting, and unique. 
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Re: Discussion bout (future) Eastfront
« Reply #13 on: 25-03-2010, 05:03:44 »
Personally, I'd like to see the Stalingrad to Kursk era. Mid 1942 - mid 1943. The war could've gone either way at that point. Both Germans and Soviets are on the offense. It has most of the good equipment, with potential for huge tank and urban fights.

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Re: Discussion bout (future) Eastfront
« Reply #14 on: 25-03-2010, 06:03:39 »
Personally, I'd like to see the Stalingrad to Kursk era. Mid 1942 - mid 1943. The war could've gone either way at that point. Both Germans and Soviets are on the offense. It has most of the good equipment, with potential for huge tank and urban fights.
This, it would make it totally unique and awesome.

Still Winter war or Continuation war = win, awesome, best, <3 and extremely unique  :P.