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Re: Review the latest movie you have seen
« Reply #1710 on: 23-01-2014, 16:01:27 »
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Babysitting 14 and 9 year olds. 9 year old I kinda understand but 14 year old?

Yeah now that you mention it... usually you HIRE 14 year olds to baby sit.

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« Reply #1711 on: 25-01-2014, 18:01:21 »
I just watched Wolf of Wall Street (2013) by Martin Scorsese, a biopic movie based on a memoir written by Jordan Belfort.

Starring Leonardo DiCaprio and Jonah Hill

Plot
The movie is about the real world case of Stratton Oakmont and the adventure of Jordan Belfort in building his wealth. He started as a stock broker at L.F. Rothschild, and when the company closed, he started to be involved in trading penny stocks, a market so tiny that it is unregulated at that time. He quickly get rich by the 50% commission trading fee, with numerous illegitimate pressure tactics, and "pump and dump" schemes. He eventually moved up and establish his own firm Stratton Oakmont, Inc. with the help of unlikely gang of friends, and aimed even higher. He frequently gets into comedic situation over his addiction to drugs, sex, and partying. His ability in persuading and manipulating people gave him the early success, but it will eventually lead to his own downfall, when all of his illegal activities are uncovered one by one.

Theme
It is a black comedy, a satire, and most of the plot are simplified or maybe fictionalized, but it is all according to real Jordan Belfort's memoir. And according to him, the words like "fuck," "asshole," *insert genital references* "sucker" dominates the air of brokerage room. Abuse of prescription drugs is shown liberally throughout the entire film, snorting cocaine, aggressive intake of quaaludes, and the comedic "high" antiques and the situation it produced. The movie deliberately showed inconsistencies, like the colour of the cars, the mistaken progress of the plots (as narrated by Jordan himself), or even details like the number of stair steps as to illustrated the influence of drugs.
So this movie kinda nods to typical American setup, similar to the legendary "Wall Street" (1987) movie starring Michael Douglas and Charlie Sheen, who attracted many young men into the Wall Street, including Dick Fuld (former CEO of Lehmann Brothers). Another Hollywood attempt at making US a funner place. After what they done with American history and its military capability, now it is their financial market's turn. It also approximately showed and guided nouveau rich on how to blow their money: drugs, trophy wife, super cars, mansions, yacht, and crazy parties. I literary read a Wall Street roller candidate asking if he can earn millions of dollars by landing a job there, before even graduated, right, reward before toil. Really, stay classy America, and keep learning from movies and Hollywood celebrities.

Verdict
A quite entertaining movie. I rate it at 7 out of 10. Coming from Martin Scorsese who typically manufactures epicly boring epic movies, this is quite a completely another direction from his usual boring-ness. My siblings who both worked in financial institutions (but none are brokers) quite like it. They freely laughs at most gags, deeming it to be pretty silly and "stuff of movies." I also read that Goldman-Sachs bankers cheered on several events of the movie, especially when Jordan rips off his hidden stash of cocaine and take huge dosage after a period of rehab. I guess they wanted to either mock the comical side of the movie or show how they want to "cling on" that hard into their dreams, even after the situation turned sour, like Jordan Belfort did. Critics are quite positive, but not so about the general audiences.


Fact vs. Fiction (Wall of text)

There are of course, inaccuracies shown in the movie. I can't help but I believe this movie reinforces that "occupy Wall Street" movement's stereotype about the people there. While most of my experience talking to other professional certification candidate in this industry does give me similar impression (mostly in US), but in most other places, I found out that it is entirely different.
You cannot simply "IPO" a company without serious stock pitching backed with reliable analysts. It seems that the movie only portrays Stratton Oakman's boiler room of telemarketing stock brokers. They don't show their other operations or how things were done. Clearly, these Stratton Oakman were predators to the low-medium income people, which are financially illiterate (as opposed to targeting "rich people," hence Jordan's decision to establish the firm and the name as explained in the movie). I could imagine how devastating the effect for their victims at that time. And ripping of 50% out of client's money is too much, and you are way too stupid if you fell into this scheme. This is however, confirmed by Wikipedia and had happened indeed (as well as the Forbes article). Nowadays, even 1% is considered high, as comparison, my broker only charged me 0.35% at sell and 0.25% at buy.
In real-life, calls from brokers or sell-side traders/analyst are usually for informing long time institutional investors about trends. My brother says that it is mostly them (the buyers) who made the call and ask "buy or sell" with the seller reluctantly answer or declining at all. Calls typically last very long and boring, with the conversation dominated by them talking and us listening. But time has changed, really. These highly-paid people really have no time for such low-volume, but high-commission transactions, which are clearly not a legitimate well-established firm's palate. Unless you are talking about hedge fund and all that shit, they are somewhat unregulated. But in the US, which has a lot of weird legislation, even those protecting their own stupidity (like Toyota brake problems), there's just too many prey and this things are too lucrative that they won't go away. Even the rich people who mistakenly invest in this kind of dubious products wanted to be protected from their stupidity, so imagine how are the other masses of poor, low-educated people.
So as a middle-class, blue collar, hard worker, my idea of fun is to get wasted as much as I can. So if we have more money, then we'll party harder right? Work hard, party hard? Well, if you are into expensive and alcoholic drinks (cocktails and bar stuffs) to get stoned to have fun, most of the colleagues in that industry will gossip about you and generally regards you as "not having a hobby." Yeah, it happened for real in one of major financial institution here, which (not surprisingly) employed the highest proportion of people educated in University in the state of New York.
People with a lot of money typically enjoys better access to their hobby (some of which they can't afford first), so it is not always drugs, prostitutes, gambling, and other typically Hollywood and American celebrity kind of "fun." For example, most of the guys in Indonesian "Wall Street" typically enjoy taking holidays at exotic places, which is kinda boring hobby. But some have interesting hobbies like collecting antics, paintings, and other art works that worth million dollars. One of the bosses I know enjoyed scuba diving, and with that huge extra money, he traveled to many weird places across the globe just to do his hobby.
So how about the, Ferraris/Lamborghinis? Well, Mazda 6 and Hyundai H-1 are what my siblings' bosses drive (or driven in, since H-1 is a huge van). Hell, my friend at JP Morgan took subways everyday and does figurine-collecting as a hobby.

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Re: Review the latest movie you have seen
« Reply #1712 on: 25-01-2014, 20:01:44 »
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« Reply #1713 on: 28-01-2014, 20:01:41 »
I just watched Wolf of Wall Street (2013) by Martin Scorsese, a biopic movie based on a memoir written by Jordan Belfort.

Starring Leonardo DiCaprio and Jonah Hill

Plot
The movie is about the real world case of Stratton Oakmont and the adventure of Jordan Belfort in building his wealth. He started as a stock broker at L.F. Rothschild, and when the company closed, he started to be involved in trading penny stocks, a market so tiny that it is unregulated at that time. He quickly get rich by the 50% commission trading fee, with numerous illegitimate pressure tactics, and "pump and dump" schemes. He eventually moved up and establish his own firm Stratton Oakmont, Inc. with the help of unlikely gang of friends, and aimed even higher. He frequently gets into comedic situation over his addiction to drugs, sex, and partying. His ability in persuading and manipulating people gave him the early success, but it will eventually lead to his own downfall, when all of his illegal activities are uncovered one by one.

Theme
It is a black comedy, a satire, and most of the plot are simplified or maybe fictionalized, but it is all according to real Jordan Belfort's memoir. And according to him, the words like "fuck," "asshole," *insert genital references* "sucker" dominates the air of brokerage room. Abuse of prescription drugs is shown liberally throughout the entire film, snorting cocaine, aggressive intake of quaaludes, and the comedic "high" antiques and the situation it produced. The movie deliberately showed inconsistencies, like the colour of the cars, the mistaken progress of the plots (as narrated by Jordan himself), or even details like the number of stair steps as to illustrated the influence of drugs.
So this movie kinda nods to typical American setup, similar to the legendary "Wall Street" (1987) movie starring Michael Douglas and Charlie Sheen, who attracted many young men into the Wall Street, including Dick Fuld (former CEO of Lehmann Brothers). Another Hollywood attempt at making US a funner place. After what they done with American history and its military capability, now it is their financial market's turn. It also approximately showed and guided nouveau rich on how to blow their money: drugs, trophy wife, super cars, mansions, yacht, and crazy parties. I literary read a Wall Street roller candidate asking if he can earn millions of dollars by landing a job there, before even graduated, right, reward before toil. Really, stay classy America, and keep learning from movies and Hollywood celebrities.

Verdict
A quite entertaining movie. I rate it at 7 out of 10. Coming from Martin Scorsese who typically manufactures epicly boring epic movies, this is quite a completely another direction from his usual boring-ness. My siblings who both worked in financial institutions (but none are brokers) quite like it. They freely laughs at most gags, deeming it to be pretty silly and "stuff of movies." I also read that Goldman-Sachs bankers cheered on several events of the movie, especially when Jordan rips off his hidden stash of cocaine and take huge dosage after a period of rehab. I guess they wanted to either mock the comical side of the movie or show how they want to "cling on" that hard into their dreams, even after the situation turned sour, like Jordan Belfort did. Critics are quite positive, but not so about the general audiences.


Fact vs. Fiction (Wall of text)

There are of course, inaccuracies shown in the movie. I can't help but I believe this movie reinforces that "occupy Wall Street" movement's stereotype about the people there. While most of my experience talking to other professional certification candidate in this industry does give me similar impression (mostly in US), but in most other places, I found out that it is entirely different.
You cannot simply "IPO" a company without serious stock pitching backed with reliable analysts. It seems that the movie only portrays Stratton Oakman's boiler room of telemarketing stock brokers. They don't show their other operations or how things were done. Clearly, these Stratton Oakman were predators to the low-medium income people, which are financially illiterate (as opposed to targeting "rich people," hence Jordan's decision to establish the firm and the name as explained in the movie). I could imagine how devastating the effect for their victims at that time. And ripping of 50% out of client's money is too much, and you are way too stupid if you fell into this scheme. This is however, confirmed by Wikipedia and had happened indeed (as well as the Forbes article). Nowadays, even 1% is considered high, as comparison, my broker only charged me 0.35% at sell and 0.25% at buy.
In real-life, calls from brokers or sell-side traders/analyst are usually for informing long time institutional investors about trends. My brother says that it is mostly them (the buyers) who made the call and ask "buy or sell" with the seller reluctantly answer or declining at all. Calls typically last very long and boring, with the conversation dominated by them talking and us listening. But time has changed, really. These highly-paid people really have no time for such low-volume, but high-commission transactions, which are clearly not a legitimate well-established firm's palate. Unless you are talking about hedge fund and all that shit, they are somewhat unregulated. But in the US, which has a lot of weird legislation, even those protecting their own stupidity (like Toyota brake problems), there's just too many prey and this things are too lucrative that they won't go away. Even the rich people who mistakenly invest in this kind of dubious products wanted to be protected from their stupidity, so imagine how are the other masses of poor, low-educated people.
So as a middle-class, blue collar, hard worker, my idea of fun is to get wasted as much as I can. So if we have more money, then we'll party harder right? Work hard, party hard? Well, if you are into expensive and alcoholic drinks (cocktails and bar stuffs) to get stoned to have fun, most of the colleagues in that industry will gossip about you and generally regards you as "not having a hobby." Yeah, it happened for real in one of major financial institution here, which (not surprisingly) employed the highest proportion of people educated in University in the state of New York.
People with a lot of money typically enjoys better access to their hobby (some of which they can't afford first), so it is not always drugs, prostitutes, gambling, and other typically Hollywood and American celebrity kind of "fun." For example, most of the guys in Indonesian "Wall Street" typically enjoy taking holidays at exotic places, which is kinda boring hobby. But some have interesting hobbies like collecting antics, paintings, and other art works that worth million dollars. One of the bosses I know enjoyed scuba diving, and with that huge extra money, he traveled to many weird places across the globe just to do his hobby.
So how about the, Ferraris/Lamborghinis? Well, Mazda 6 and Hyundai H-1 are what my siblings' bosses drive (or driven in, since H-1 is a huge van). Hell, my friend at JP Morgan took subways everyday and does figurine-collecting as a hobby.


Bernie Madoff!


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Re: Review the latest movie you have seen
« Reply #1714 on: 28-01-2014, 20:01:50 »
I don't think the point is that all stockbrokers are like the ones shown in the movie, but that the system implicitely rewards the behaviour shown. As for Occupy Wall Street, I think it actually argues against them. It doesn't use this 99% - 1% meme, instead it shows the core of the problem: that the 99% want to be like the 1%.

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Re: Review the latest movie you have seen
« Reply #1715 on: 28-01-2014, 21:01:27 »
Pointing to Zoo that it's not just the dumb ignorant suckers that get tricked into crappy money schemes.


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« Reply #1716 on: 29-01-2014, 03:01:33 »
Yes, there are rich people that fell for Bernie Madoff's scheme, but these are people who doesn't understand financial market. People like old rich, celebrities, and entrepreneurs. Hell, even Warren Buffet never claimed he knows a thing about it.

But I agree. In the movie, it is clearly shown that despite the negative news coverage of Stratton Oakmont by Forbes, a lot of yuppies are still vying to be part of that scam. Mine, greed is good.

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Re: Review the latest movie you have seen
« Reply #1717 on: 09-02-2014, 15:02:51 »
I just watched Lone Survivor (2013) by Peter Berg today, at a local theatre.

Starring Mark Wahlberg, Taylor Kitsch, Eric Bana, Ben Foster, and Emile Hirsch, the film practically shows almost no female casts.

This is a pretty realistic film, with a few degree of artistic liberty. While there are some inaccuracies that you can find in imdb and Wikipedia, generally it is good to go, if not a marketing aid for the US Navy recruitment and SEAL team in particular.

The plot is an account of Operation Red Wings (2005) from Marcus Lutrell's point of view. The movie is based on his book with some changes in the details. The movie discusses about RoE when the team is discovered by local goat herders. This points out how the military now is more accountable to the media's opinion rather than the public or government. Then, the horrors of war, like being outnumbered and surrounded by guerrilla fighters. Finally, survival of "tough men." The extraordinary physical conditioning that these elite military units have been through does aid Lutrell to survive the ordeal.

The verdict:
Ever since The Hurt Locker (2008), every modern war movie tries to be like that "realistic." So it is getting very generic and unoriginal, but stay sacred because it portrays real people. People who fought and died for what they believed precious. The Lone Survivor however, is very light, and action-packed, it features liberal amount of blood splatters from 5.56 mm projectiles, some gun ships, and helicopter explosion. It also questions deep subject. So I give it 7 out of 10. It is a movie about the Americans for Americans.


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I am heavily influenced by John T. Reed, a Vietnam veteran, Army Ranger & Airborne, West Pointers' opinion. He doesn't like "elite" units and consider them to be all about bragging rights. I was more like respecting the skills that these "elites" has than Mr. Reed (he has experienced it himself, first hand, I only have survival skill training). But this movie has showed that seems that the US put too much emphasis on them. So much that we were given the wrong impression about what they are able to achieve. It doesn't help either the general public perception on the military (as Cracked's recent insider articles also hinted) that the top brass doesn't have any idea how the war works, other than collecting merit points from media's opinion as war keeps dragging. While these gung-ho, idealist soldiers suffer in the field, the general public can't help themselves with their own guilt and decided to do what the media and social media popularity suggests. For Hollywood riches, making movies like Zero Dark Thirty and this are what they can do best, while staying off the service.

It is cheerleader mentality, spectator attitude, getting all the spectating info from the media mouth piece, which does these awesome guys more damage than the Talibs and the commies put down together. They comfortably put the blame on disposable politicians, supporting the impossible RoEs, portraying troops in selective manners, while enjoying the audiences from the public. I guess, rather than listening to these media nonsense about your troops and mourn ourselves to feel better, we'd better serve if we feel moved. Moreover, there are the education aid benefits if you serve. Why not? Like Walter Mitty has taught you: it's better to see it for yourself. For good or bad, it will always answer that question you'd always ask about being in service. The Lone Survivor is a good recruiting tool indeed, in unintended way.

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« Reply #1718 on: 09-02-2014, 17:02:25 »
Story sounds a lot like Bravo-Two-Zero. Will watch it.

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« Reply #1719 on: 15-02-2014, 23:02:49 »
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Lone Survivor (2013)

Dunno if it was the torrents fault, what happens actually in the movie or that it in fact was as things really happened during that mission, but i saw nothing realistic at all. I mean ok being shot in the feet and moving on i can undestand. Being shot in the shoulder or hands as well. But being shot 3+ times for each person, falling down hills with no protective gear, bashing on rocks and receiving the sharpnel of over 5 RPG's and keep going is simply impossible. I stopped half way watching. I will not give a rating for now only because i dont trust the torrent. 

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« Reply #1720 on: 18-02-2014, 01:02:20 »
I just watched "Unsere mütter, unsere väter"
I was planning on working all night, but during a break, I saw a "recommended" video that was a scene from this movie. Was planning on taking it as the last video of my break. It was the scene where the SS officer offers some candy (or maybe Sch-Ka-Kola, judging on the looks of the box) to a jewish girl and then shoots her. That scene just amazed me so much and it surprised me that I didn't see the movie it came from yet. So then i checked if I could find it on youtube and it was there. Was 3 episodes of 1,5 hours. 1,5 hours is a bit of a long next break, but well, 1 of my 5 aims for the next semester is to further improve my German, so I thought I'd count it as working if I watched the German version without subtitles. And well, it's just so good I couldn't stop after one. Now it's damn late, I have to get up early and I didn't do any of the studying work I planned to do this night, but it was so damn worth it. I'd say the word "epic" is still an understatement. For me, this is the best war series I've seen so far. I guess just about everyone here will have seen it already considering it has been posted here before, but if anyone over here didn't see it yet, go see it! I loved it so much I feel like it's my duty to go buy it this weekend to support the makers.

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« Reply #1721 on: 21-02-2014, 14:02:16 »
It's easily up there with the best, yep. Extra special because it is German.

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« Reply #1722 on: 22-02-2014, 16:02:47 »
Definitely agree with Born2kill, it's the best war-series I have ever seen. I loved every single minute of it.
I see were you are trying to reach: "how can a 17 year old kid have such a thinking like this? why doesnt he wants to be like normal teens who whana get rich? and his plan actually makes sense, but is too damn revolutionary and good at the same time than is still doubthfull if it works..." - Damaso

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« Reply #1723 on: 23-02-2014, 02:02:12 »
I just want it to come to the States already.

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« Reply #1724 on: 23-02-2014, 02:02:56 »
I think it's already in the States, but as a 4,5 hour movie named "Generation War".
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