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Title: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Eat Uranium on 14-06-2015, 18:06:18
Coming in a couple of hours.

That's Not A Knife!

http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/ (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/news.php?id_news=470)
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Kasztelan on 14-06-2015, 18:06:52
Hm... ;)

https://youtu.be/WWl8EbNN8NM?t=18s
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Roughbeak on 14-06-2015, 18:06:47
Matt Baker is going to love this one ;D
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: nysä on 14-06-2015, 18:06:37
NR-40 !
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 14-06-2015, 18:06:49
Matt Baker is going to love this one ;D

Well now I'm REALLY curious :)

I'm just psyched we keep giving the ppl updates! Keep em coming!
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 14-06-2015, 19:06:54
New and exciting hats for the Australians?
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: LuckyOne on 14-06-2015, 19:06:52
Finally, we get Gurkhas in North Africa! :P

Or a very nice Soviet knife  ;D
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: jan_kurator on 14-06-2015, 19:06:36
None of you guessed so far, keep trying  ;)
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Kalkalash on 14-06-2015, 19:06:37
A shovel? Or maybe someone brought a gun to a knife fight.
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Kasztelan on 14-06-2015, 19:06:22
If that's not a knife, then maybe it's a sword... Sword beach map confirmed ;D OK I know I'm wrong I have no idea what's this...
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: nysä on 14-06-2015, 20:06:03
Aaah.. Australian soldiers.. interesting.
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Kalkalash on 14-06-2015, 20:06:34
On which maps will new skins be used?
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 14-06-2015, 20:06:02
None of you guessed so far, keep trying  ;)
To be fair I wasn't far off.
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 14-06-2015, 20:06:10
On which maps will new skins be used?

Bardia for example.
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: jan_kurator on 14-06-2015, 20:06:37
On which maps will new skins be used?
Bardia and Siege of Giarabub

Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Kasztelan on 14-06-2015, 20:06:40
Shouldn't New Zealand have similar uniforms on Mt. Olympus?
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: LuckyOne on 14-06-2015, 21:06:33
Wow, and I thought the old stuff will never get a faceliftin'! Keep it up, mate, great job!

I'm glad to see that even if those in the "land down under" might have forgotten 'bout FH2  the devs still remember them!
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: TASSER on 14-06-2015, 22:06:38
Awesome!!!!! I love it when Africa gets some goodies!
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 14-06-2015, 22:06:47
Wow, and I thought the old stuff will never get a faceliftin'! Keep it up, mate, great job!

A lot of stuff from the past are getting fixed/facelifted in the upcoming patch. Gavrant been really busy fixing stuff thats been around since the very first release...
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 14-06-2015, 22:06:25
Oh Awesome :o I didn't know anybody rendered these, thanks Roughbeak!

I'm glad we can show some proper love to the Aussies and make them more of a distinct army. 2AIF 6th Infantry Division 2/1 Battalion to be specific ;)

On which maps will new skins be used?

Just like Jan said, Bardia and Giarabub. At Bardia the Australians famously wore their greatcoats during the assault, but since BF2 doesn't handle coats well, it was easy to go with the next best thing. Just like the update says, they were still equip with their WW1 Service Dress underneath which is similar enough to the Normandy Commonwealth uniforms to be re-skinned. They still used the SD throughout the winter of '41 (when Giarabub takes place) and didn't fully change over to the commonwealth battledress until Tobruk.

Shouldn't New Zealand have similar uniforms on Mt. Olympus?

I certainly thought about it, I just don't have enough research to see how similar the NZ uniforms in Greece are to this uniform. If any history buffs have some good resources, it's clear that the devs aren't averse to updating their old assets ;D

Hope you guys like 'em!
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Ts4EVER on 14-06-2015, 22:06:29
Nice to see that we can still surprise you guys from time to time ;)
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Airshark79 on 14-06-2015, 22:06:49
Wow, good stuff.
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 14-06-2015, 23:06:39
Really love it!! Matt Baker are you now FH2 developer?
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Hauggy on 14-06-2015, 23:06:57
Good surprise, thanks for keeping us up to date you guys are my heroes. :D
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Ts4EVER on 14-06-2015, 23:06:09
No, but he might be in the future.  ;)
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Hauggy on 14-06-2015, 23:06:43
While you're around may I ask if we'll get Matt's historical skins for Jeeps and tanks ?
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 14-06-2015, 23:06:10
While you're around may I ask if we'll get Matt's historical skins for Jeeps and tanks ?
I think there is. If you have Forgoten Honor Updater you can install Matt's skins and remove.
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 14-06-2015, 23:06:35
Very nice skins,we got British paratroopers,Aussies, I hope next will be Finnish player model! ;D I just love Finnish stuff!

P.S. I saw you finally added American 101 to FH2 HQ-armies
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: ksl94 on 15-06-2015, 00:06:17
Thank you so very much! That is one of the grandest updates in a long time! Please keep up the great work regarding the early war content. I would also like to ask for Mr. Baker's magnificent vehicle texture packs to be included in the next release.
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 15-06-2015, 03:06:42
Really love it!! Matt Baker are you now FH2 developer?

I hope to be, I just gotta find the time to finish my shit :P

While you're around may I ask if we'll get Matt's historical skins for Jeeps and tanks ?

It's been discussed a few times but as of right now it's kind of impractical for a few reasons. But like Ivancic said, there are some people helping find ways to make it easier to download and install. And I'll probably be updating it soon :)

I'm glad you guys like the uniforms! I figured they'd go slightly unnoticed with all the other updates this next patch is gonna have :D Thanks!
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Hauggy on 15-06-2015, 06:06:43
I'm glad you guys like the uniforms! I figured they'd go slightly unnoticed with all the other updates this next patch is gonna have :D Thanks!
(http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2013/01/fangirling.gif)
Does that mean there's even more updates coming and therefore more awesome stuff to be shown before the release ?
I hope other things got improved like some of the old weapons the luger comes to my mind and I saw the finns will get one.
I'm sure Seth soldier could do a masterpiece of a luger in no time. :D
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: jan_kurator on 15-06-2015, 07:06:53
Luger model was improved few patches ago.
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Hauggy on 15-06-2015, 07:06:17
Oh alright I was looking at the old render xD
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: ksl94 on 15-06-2015, 11:06:44
Now, what really needs an overhaul very badly is the Webley Mk. VI. A re-skin of the SMLE would be wonderful, too. Somehow it seems a little bit artificial as of now, yet I cannot precisely tell why. Re-loading animations more in line with those of the G41 would be a valuable addition, too. The tip of the cartridge must be lifted for reliable loading.

The Boys AT rifle's animations are quite robotic and the bi-pod folds in after every shot.

I know that the developers are busy with other things, yet would I consider these to be quite pressing suggestions, too.
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Stubbfan on 15-06-2015, 13:06:38
We don't really have an abundance of animators atm though sadly.
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Turkish007 on 15-06-2015, 16:06:31
Chad509 has been away for a long time now...

Anyways, I love the new textures, awesome job Matt!
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Zoologic on 15-06-2015, 16:06:25
Yes, this is gorgeous.

Love it!
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: ksl94 on 15-06-2015, 17:06:09
Ah well, Chad, my dear fellow, do you have PayPal  ;D ?

By the way, the New Zealandean soldiers wear the very same uniform, so replacing the in-correct KD uniforms on Mount Olympus with the new improvised Service Dress would be accurate indeed. As soon as available, the slouch hat should be replaced with the New Zealandean "Lemon Squeezer" hat.

I do not want to be callous, but the current Khaki Drill uniforms are wrong, the mystery jacket should be replaced with a regular Khaki Drill shirt. Here is a WPG made shirt as a reference: http://onlinemilitaria.net/images/Aertex_Shirt.jpg

It would be nice to have the full sleeve length on some soldiers, preferably on the NCOs.

Again, I would like to thank you sincerely for this grand new addition to the Commonwealth forces and hope that once time permits, my suggestions may be considered.
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Hauggy on 15-06-2015, 17:06:53
Very good point kls94 !

I found a very well documented article with different pictures of uniforms and hats, you even have a pic of a Maori unit doing the haka in the desert. :D

http://afrikakorps.forumcrea.com/viewtopic.php?id=594

Having at least an alternative hat would be great.
(http://afrikakorps.forumcrea.com/img/avatars/afrikakorps/big/54_new_zealand.jpg)
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Hauggy on 15-06-2015, 17:06:39
(http://afrikakorps.forumcrea.com/img/avatars/afrikakorps/big/54_new_zealand.jpg)
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: ksl94 on 15-06-2015, 17:06:24
Thank you, Hauggy! I wish I could mod, there is so much that I would want to see improved with regards to the Commonwealth, but the man power just is not there. I would also like to thank you for your link, there were some interesting photographs on it!
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Hauggy on 15-06-2015, 18:06:30
You are welcome.

I really believe you have some great ideas, the iconic hat would make the kiwis unique, now the question is will this suggestion make it's way to an enthousiast dev? Let's hope so, at least they got documentation. :)
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 15-06-2015, 21:06:01
Finally, we get Gurkhas in North Africa! :P

Or a very nice Soviet knife  ;D

Here's hoping for Indians eventually.  Actually, could the MEC models be the basis for Indian soldiers? 
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 16-06-2015, 00:06:07
By the way, the New Zealandean soldiers wear the very same uniform, so replacing the in-correct KD uniforms on Mount Olympus with the new improvised Service Dress would be accurate indeed. As soon as available, the slouch hat should be replaced with the New Zealandean "Lemon Squeezer" hat.


Lemon Squeezer's have been on the to-do list for a while. It all comes down to someone willing to model it :)

As for the New Zealanders' uniforms; WW1 Service Dress would be correct for early Greece, and they also would be grey?
Also, the utility straps (to carry the equipment) what color would those be? Green?

Any reenactment pictures? or things like that in color?

EDIT: Actually, doing more research they may be almost exactly the same aside from the shoulder boards and hats
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Alakazou on 16-06-2015, 02:06:04
So you shouldn't forget the south african then :P
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 16-06-2015, 03:06:29
Here's hoping for Indians eventually.  Actually, could the MEC models be the basis for Indian soldiers? 

Indian division would work well on Keren :) and yes I think the standard BF2, MEC heads would be as close as we'll every come to an 'Indian' ethnicity.

So you shouldn't forget the south african then :P

Would be prime for Fall of Tobruk.

But things start getting muddy when you try to further divide the British Commonwealth into all of their sub factions and regions. :P (even muddier when you think about all the sub-divisions of the Russian Army)
I think the main deciding factor as to whether or not a faction could be it's own distinct Army is whether or not it has proper voices. Canada, Australia and NZ (sorry Kiwis you sound close enough) all have their own voices and so it's easy to make them distinct. Would be cool to see sometime in the FAR future tho :D

FH2:Abyssinian Faction ftw!
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 16-06-2015, 05:06:02
Micronesians!
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: MaJ.P.Bouras on 16-06-2015, 07:06:54
Micronesians!

You could get Greeks by just re texturing the Russians... Maybe put them in Olympus ya know... Or Crete.
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 16-06-2015, 14:06:32
Really?
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: MaJ.P.Bouras on 16-06-2015, 17:06:50
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/54/Greek_field_artillery%2C_ca._1910.jpg/767px-Greek_field_artillery%2C_ca._1910.jpg)

Kinda, i guess... Better than not representation is some representation. You could even use one of the French rifles in their kit (if one is actually game worthy).
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Seth_Soldier on 16-06-2015, 18:06:29
No need to take the french rifle, we have a Schoenauer 03/14 rifle.
About the uniform, i doubt the equipement would be the same.
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: MaJ.P.Bouras on 16-06-2015, 20:06:48
No need to take the french rifle, we have a Schoenauer 03/14 rifle.
About the uniform, i doubt the equipement would be the same.

Doesn't the equipment come with the kit? Like what are the layers that go into an infantry model? Is it basic model then add kit or more stages?
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 16-06-2015, 20:06:41
Doesn't the equipment come with the kit? Like what are the layers that go into an infantry model? Is it basic model then add kit or more stages?

Essentially the player you see in 3rd person consists of a player model; That's more or less what you see with the Aussie renders, a model complete with shirt, trousers, boots and also the utility belt. (Center guy in render aside from hat he's holding and gun) that's the basic shape of the person. Then there's a 'kit-geometry;' that's the canteens, ammo pouches, pistol holsters and helmet that can be animated to bounce when the person's running, and can be changed for specific kits (the two guys on either side of the Aussie Render have a pretty complete 'kit-geometry' on) and then there's the gun or whatever 'weapon' he's carrying in his hands that changes on what you have selected.

EDIT:
Player Model
(http://i.imgur.com/D6SJdvf.jpg)
Kit Geometry
(http://i.imgur.com/C2NrHBT.jpg)
Weapon
(http://i.imgur.com/UU2wuV8.jpg)
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Fuchs on 17-06-2015, 04:06:37
Micronesians!
Only after we get mountable camels.
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 17-06-2015, 13:06:55
Nice explenation Matt!!
Hey Eat Uranium,AGAIN UPDATE IN JUST 2 WEEKS!!!
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 17-06-2015, 18:06:34
Only after we get mountable camels.

Only camels you'll get to mount are the dead ones at Giarabub.
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Fuchs on 17-06-2015, 19:06:40
Only after we get mountable camels.

Only camels you'll get to mount are the dead ones at Giarabub.
I'm not sure the Camel Corps would be pleased by my hedonistic camel acts at Giaraboob.
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 17-06-2015, 23:06:00
Come on devs... the people want camels.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8To-6VIJZRE
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Kelmola on 17-06-2015, 23:06:02
Who cares about mountable camels, we need punchable camels!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7tOWoDVQLU
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Oberst on 21-06-2015, 19:06:20
No news today?
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Slayer on 21-06-2015, 19:06:52
Don't get spoiled now, people ;)
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 25-06-2015, 22:06:11
Update will come in these 3-4 days 8)
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Wulfburk on 26-06-2015, 22:06:05
What update? the Road to the next patch part 1?
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Michael Z Freeman on 27-06-2015, 20:06:03
I need bleddy Russians ! They've already come to CoH2 for me in a REALLY BIG way. My life will be complete and MORE when they come to FH  8)
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 27-06-2015, 23:06:55
Can you leak some screenshot?Forum is sleepy...
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Hauggy on 28-06-2015, 01:06:35
*praying for the next update to come out soon*  :'(
Forums will be alive when the servers will, hopefully.
Title: Re: That's Not A Knife! - A Forgotten Hope 2 Update
Post by: Michael Z Freeman on 28-06-2015, 18:06:11
Yeah, leak some russians  ;D. Although guess I might be a bit ahead of myself. Pegasus bridge is first ?