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Title: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Hockeywarrior on 03-05-2009, 21:05:23
Yes boys and girls, RO fans everywhere! Tripwire has finally (and somewhat accidently) announced it's next big project built on the Unreal 3 engine - Red Orchestra: Heroes of Stalingrad.

Apparently there is a story all about it in the lastest US and UK PC Gamer magazines. Sadly, I haven't read it, and haven't been able to find any scans online.

Here's the scoop: http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=30283
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Fuchs on 03-05-2009, 21:05:10
Mwew. I looked forward to it but as some of those guys say already, Ostfront again. Why not something refreshing like the Blitzkrieg, early war. Poland, France, Belgium, Netherlands, Denmark, Norway and the Battle for Britain.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Torenico on 03-05-2009, 22:05:01
I think is Steam only, thats why i hate RO.   :-\
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: NoCoolOnesLeft on 03-05-2009, 22:05:37
Hmmm. I'm interested...but not. I can't see why they went for Ostfront again...but I can at the same time.

I suppose it's not made that much of an impact because I kind of expected it. If that makes any sense.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Yertle The Turtle on 03-05-2009, 23:05:37
http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=735342

Here you go screenshots and what not in this thread.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Hockeywarrior on 04-05-2009, 01:05:58
http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=735342

Here you go screenshots and what not in this thread.
THANKS!!!

Oh my god they're adding a first person cover system + blindfire + vaulting over cover. I'm sold!!

Plus a singplayer campaign, multiplayer coop mode, and im sure lots of other great things....
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Archimonday on 04-05-2009, 03:05:05
Sounds cool, although it'll be a steam only release, which means I won't be playing it.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Johannes on 04-05-2009, 04:05:06
Notice that the article said you could play the single player mode on both sides. Will this be pretty much the first major commercial World War II first-person shooter title to have a single player campaign where you can play as the Germans?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Archimonday on 04-05-2009, 04:05:35
no...BF1942 xD
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Hockeywarrior on 04-05-2009, 04:05:33
Sounds cool, although it'll be a steam only release, which means I won't be playing it.
Um what? first how do you know it's steam only, and second, why in the hell does that matter?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Archimonday on 04-05-2009, 05:05:37
Well lets see, First, its Red Orchestra, secondly it matters to alot of people who don't and never plan to have credit or debit cards, or paypals.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Mspfc Doc DuFresne on 04-05-2009, 05:05:28
Well lets see, First, its Red Orchestra, secondly it matters to alot of people who don't and never plan to have credit or debit cards, or paypals.

Its pretty tough to get by in life without at least one of those. Not like you need 20 like some people, but I think one is not overkill.

emphasis mine
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Archimonday on 04-05-2009, 05:05:18
A lot of people say that, but I don't find it hard at all. I have saved enough money in my bank account that any time I am really pressed for cash, I have it on hand and ready to use. I just don't see the benefit in having credit lying around my house in the shape of a plastic card with numbers on it, or on my computer screen in the form of size ten Times New Roman font.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 04-05-2009, 05:05:33
Well lets see, First, its Red Orchestra, secondly it matters to alot of people who don't and never plan to have credit or debit cards, or paypals.


I bought my copy of Red Orchestra at Wal-Mart.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Hockeywarrior on 04-05-2009, 05:05:51
Well lets see, First, its Red Orchestra, secondly it matters to alot of people who don't and never plan to have credit or debit cards, or paypals.


I bought my copy of Red Orchestra at Wal-Mart.

Exactly, who says that it's going to be Steam only? They've never said that publicly.

And one of your issues with it was that it was "Red Orchestra"... well if you don't like the game then whether it's on Steam or not is a mute point isn't it?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Torenico on 04-05-2009, 06:05:37
Well im going to check in Wal Mart.. wich is 2km from my house and see if RO is there.. and COH: OF. Wal Mart is so Americanish!
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Hockeywarrior on 04-05-2009, 07:05:52
Well im going to check in Wal Mart.. wich is 2km from my house and see if RO is there.. and COH: OF. Wal Mart is so Americanish!
Walmart stands for everything horrible that we Americans have created! I hate that place with a passion.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Wilhelm on 04-05-2009, 07:05:14
Well im going to check in Wal Mart.. wich is 2km from my house and see if RO is there.. and COH: OF. Wal Mart is so Americanish!
Walmart stands for everything horrible that we Americans have created! I hate that place with a passion.

I agree!  Don't support Wal-Mart, please!! 
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Archimonday on 04-05-2009, 12:05:42
Well lets see, First, its Red Orchestra, secondly it matters to alot of people who don't and never plan to have credit or debit cards, or paypals.


I bought my copy of Red Orchestra at Wal-Mart.

Exactly, who says that it's going to be Steam only? They've never said that publicly.

And one of your issues with it was that it was "Red Orchestra"... well if you don't like the game then whether it's on Steam or not is a mute point isn't it?

When did I say I hated Red Orchestra? You asked me why I thought it was going to be a Steam Only release, and I answered. Because its Red Orchestra, thats how I've always known it. Whether I liked it or not is a different story.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Admiral Donutz on 04-05-2009, 12:05:38
AM I glad we do't have WM here, now we only must get rid of the MC, BK, SB etc.  =p
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Fuchs on 04-05-2009, 12:05:48
KFC, Subway and that coffee bar can go back too.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Johannes on 05-05-2009, 08:05:51
no...BF1942 xD


I meant a real single player campaign. Not simply taking the multiplayer maps, adding bots, and changing the intro screen.  ;)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Moku on 05-05-2009, 10:05:18
This is great news. I hope this new RO offers much more variety than the first one which was IMO its biggest flaw (and god let the awful granade spam be gone forever :D).
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Taranov on 05-05-2009, 22:05:07
Uniform looks like crap.
Not suprised if they put "deactivated" guns again ;D
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Torenico on 06-05-2009, 02:05:10
Well im going to check in Wal Mart.. wich is 2km from my house and see if RO is there.. and COH: OF. Wal Mart is so Americanish!
Walmart stands for everything horrible that we Americans have created! I hate that place with a passion.

But i want CoH OF and RO.. maybe icould find it there and also, i found many things on Wal Mart.. WM ftw!
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 06-05-2009, 06:05:46
But i want CoH OF and RO.. maybe icould find it there and also, i found many things on Wal Mart.. WM ftw!

  Wal-Mart rules!  Fuck you elitist pricks!
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: DLFReporter on 06-05-2009, 07:05:27
Nownow Lainer watch the swearing please.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 06-05-2009, 08:05:23
Nownow Lainer watch the swearing please.

Wal-Mart gives me $1 off any cheap Chinese POS I buy if I defend them with curse words.  For a slew of F-bombs I can get a big screen HD TV for under $700.  So as Q-bert would say &%$@ off!
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: GirlsHateMe on 08-05-2009, 04:05:39
Red Orchestra: Ostfront was available to buy in the shops so I don't seem why they should make it Steam only ?

 
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Rawhide on 21-08-2010, 15:08:03
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xei1v8_red-orchestra-2-presentation-de-gam_videogames#from=embed

Some of the many RO:HoS videos that has been popping up lately
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: sn00x on 21-08-2010, 17:08:29
Red Orchestra: Ostfront was available to buy in the shops so I don't seem why they should make it Steam only ?

 

I bought it in the shop, just like you can buy CS:S or DoD:S, etc.. but you had to download steam and register the game on it...

With other words, No steam No game..  :(
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Thorondor123 on 21-08-2010, 17:08:30
I really don't see any reason to buy a physical copy of a game that you can get from Steam.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: G.Drew on 21-08-2010, 17:08:29
I really don't see any reason to buy a physical copy of a game that you can get from Steam.
If its cheaper, then hell yes.

Put it this way:
Mafia 2 Special Edition: £22 from Game (not available on Steam).
Mafia 2 (standard) on Steam: £30
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Sgt.Radman on 21-08-2010, 19:08:34
I'd rather have a Mafia 2 DL-DVD then a bought copy in an image. Why? because If I somehow lose the installation or something goes wrong I'll have to re-download the content. So that means another 10-20GB of files. Why should I bother with re-downloading a thing that I can have always on DVD?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Ciupita on 21-08-2010, 19:08:11
I'd rather have a Mafia 2 DL-DVD then a bought copy in an image. Why? because If I somehow lose the installation or something goes wrong I'll have to re-download the content. So that means another 10-20GB of files. Why should I bother with re-downloading a thing that I can have always on DVD?

well, those DVDs have that install limit nowadays, don't they? And if you lose your DVD or someome (little brothers are good in that!) breaks it? then you have to buy a new one and that's a lot of money.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 21-08-2010, 20:08:57
Not all DVD's have limits but many people suffer from an unfortunate skill of losing the discs or they get broken. Also why I like my games digital these days is that wherever I go the games comes with me as they are tied to my profile. So I can get myself a new gun on the wall instead of having a shelv for physical games.  ;D
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Sgt.Radman on 21-08-2010, 20:08:56
All true. But you have that fact that it's nice to see a shelf with original game packages. Plus I never leave my discs out in the open. Always return them in the box or I leave them inside the DVD drive. If not I have those spindle boxes and I leave them there. Always know what is where.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Smiles on 21-08-2010, 20:08:08
I am never going to convert to Steam, i do want to try this game you speak of.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: siben on 21-08-2010, 20:08:45
I am never going to convert to Steam, i do want to try this game you speak of.

Hehe, you remind me of an old person saying "i don't need computers, everything works just as well without those fancy things"

It's funny how some people refuse to except the present and want to keep living in the past.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Eat Uranium on 21-08-2010, 20:08:21
I really want this game right naow.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Smiles on 21-08-2010, 20:08:13
This has nothing to do with either living in the present or living in the past. This has all to do with annoying prgrams wich you have to tell over 4 times to shut up when i start up my pc and fucking of with advertisements.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: siben on 21-08-2010, 21:08:29
This has nothing to do with either living in the present or living in the past. This has all to do with annoying prgrams wich you have to tell over 4 times to shut up when i start up my pc and fucking of with advertisements.

Really? I wonder what programs you are talking about, surely not steam because when i start up my computer absolutely nothing happens until I double click the icon and it starts up. And i simply checked to box and no more advertisement. Ooh so simple but i guess its to much for you. Enjoy not playing the game then.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 21-08-2010, 21:08:44
All true. But you have that fact that it's nice to see a shelf with original game packages.

Oh but I agree. I still do buy SOME games from the store (mainly from my friends store to show support towards his business) which I think are worth it. But some games are just better off buying from Steam. Mostly these are games that I buy from Steam sales anyway which I wouldnt otherwise go look out for in store bargain pins.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Aggroman on 21-08-2010, 21:08:06
Tztztz...
I wonder why you always tell us to stay on topic Flippy... ;)

I really can't wait for RO2, hopefully it won't be such a bullshit like BC2 is. RO itself delivers an atmosphere you won't get in any other game, FH2 included. The huge tank maps or intensive infantry fights are just awesome.
It would be enough if they just port the old RO to a new engine with better graphics and make some new maps, I don't need the squadsystem, though it sounds nice. :)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Sander93 on 21-08-2010, 21:08:42
That infantry weapon handling trailer got me interested. Ought to be a very refreshing experience, I hope they'll put the same amount of effort in vehicle combat.

Also, main reason I don't buy games for download (Steam) is because it's total BS that they're the same price as boxed versions while they don't require extra costs like transport or paying the salesguy in the shop.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Sgt.Radman on 21-08-2010, 21:08:25
I didn't play RO and I think I'm seriously ripped-off of the experience that it can deliver. I've watched the clips on youtube about gameplay, seems close to the 1945 BF just with more functionalities.
If RO HoS comes in a phyisic copy I'm gonna buy it since I think it's a really good game and enables some things like tank crews for manning tanks and bipod mounts etc.etc.
And I just found out about a month ago that RO was a mod.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Smiles on 21-08-2010, 21:08:31
This has nothing to do with either living in the present or living in the past. This has all to do with annoying prgrams wich you have to tell over 4 times to shut up when i start up my pc and fucking of with advertisements.

Really? I wonder what programs you are talking about, surely not steam because when i start up my computer absolutely nothing happens until I double click the icon and it starts up. And i simply checked to box and no more advertisement. Ooh so simple but i guess its to much for you. Enjoy not playing the game then.

Oe great a direct insult.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Yustax on 21-08-2010, 22:08:36
I didn't play RO and I think I'm seriously ripped-off of the experience that it can deliver. I've watched the clips on youtube about gameplay, seems close to the 1945 BF just with more functionalities.
If RO HoS comes in a phyisic copy I'm gonna buy it since I think it's a really good game and enables some things like tank crews for manning tanks and bipod mounts etc.etc.
And I just found out about a month ago that RO was a mod.

RO2 will come in a disc, not just steam. The same thing happened with RO1.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Hockeywarrior on 21-08-2010, 23:08:53
Here's a thread on the TWI forums with links to videos of gameplay from Gamescom! This was just posted a couple of days ago.

http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=45102

I'm really really liking how all this is shaping up. I love how you get points based on not only kills and captures, but actually following the officer's orders. AND the officer class is only given to the most experienced players, but is based on recent accomplishments, not overall player progression.

This on top of destructible environments, great new enhancements to movement and the cover system, even more realistic weapon handling (ironsights on snipers! adjustable sights on all weapons that apply!), and clues that tanks are going to be in the game all makes me one happy guy.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Zrix on 22-08-2010, 04:08:20
All videos so far has been a busy PR guy playing the game against bots on the easiest settings, so I wouldn't judge the gameplay just yet.
Really looking forward to the game though, based on the info given and my experience with RO1.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Wilhelm on 22-08-2010, 04:08:36
"FH3, a Red Orchestra: Heroes of Stalingrad Modification"...just throwing that out there!  ;)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Rawhide on 22-08-2010, 05:08:11
I wanna see some vehicles!
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 22-08-2010, 10:08:56
"FH3, a standalone game"...just throwing that out there!  ;)

You did it wrong but I was kind enough to repair the damage.

Pfft, RO. Same shit different name.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 22-08-2010, 11:08:38
I´m really looking forward to the new RO. The shown stuff looks quite good so far. Sure, some stuff is still very WIP, but the guy presenting it on Gamescom said it´s a late Alpha, so the game can still be polished.
Quote
I wanna see some vehicles!
This.
I love infantry combat, but tankw arfare has always been fun in RO. I really hope the Devs take a look at the Darkest Hour mod and implement some cool things the modders created into the next RO. Stuff like HEAT projectiles that penetrate walls, working armour penetration and of course I really hope that they´ll implement a realistic tank damage systems, where you can destroy stuff like treads, guns, optics, kill single crew members etc.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Ciupita on 22-08-2010, 12:08:39
yeah, realistic tank damage systems.. in RO T34-85 can't penetrate Panther's side armour from 200 meters...
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 04-09-2010, 17:09:44
FUCK YES!
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/09/02/red-orchestra-heroes-of-stalingrad-vehicles/ (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/09/02/red-orchestra-heroes-of-stalingrad-vehicles/)

Awesome, just awesome. This game will rock so much if they manage to get a balanced and bug-free release. The infantry part shown so far was cool, but the tank system they unveiled will be awesome.

(http://heroesofstalingrad.de/uploads/68/red3_large.jpg)

And the latest trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mzp0N5bLUNc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mzp0N5bLUNc)

The severed limbs will probably be a big problem for the damn German nanny state, but if they´ll release a cut version only here I´ll get the British un-cut one. I´m old enough to decide if I want to see gore or not...
Anyway, this game is my no.1 on my can´t-wait-to-play list. Looks like my dream WW2-shooter might be released, soon ^^
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Seth_Soldier on 04-09-2010, 17:09:59
 :D excellent indeed !

 :P they have feature many of my suggesting for fh3 !

Wilson state it was ingame animation so i can't wait to see what the crew is doing when  a round penetrates the tank !
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Rawhide on 04-09-2010, 17:09:47
Holy fucking shit

Fap! Fap! Fap!

(http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/images/10/sept/red8.jpg)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 04-09-2010, 19:09:13
Wilson state it was ingame animation so i can't wait to see what the crew is doing when  a round penetrates the tank !
That´s something I didn´t think about so far. I really wonder how the AI will react to a burning tank. Will they bail out or will they just stay on their positions, dumb as bots can be? And how are the effects if your tank is being hit, but not penetrated? Will spalling be included and will your view and hearing be obscured/deafened from the sound of the impact? So many questions, and yet such a long time untill the release :(
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Sander93 on 04-09-2010, 19:09:48
It has been a long time that I felt a game being worth its money again. If the full game is gonna be as good as it sounds, I'd buy two copies.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Nissi on 04-09-2010, 19:09:14
Wow! Impressive graphics in the trailer... nice body movements of the soldiers. Hey, they ran like normal guys! They fall down as they are expected to do it... and wow, damn nice tanks!

FH3 as a stand alone would be nice... or if it was to use this sexy starting point.  8)

Well... let's not forgotten the hope.  ;)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Rawhide on 04-09-2010, 20:09:29
Hey, they ran like normal guys!
Hey, that's what I thought!

Much more cinematic feel when you some different style of the running here and there
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Josh094 on 04-09-2010, 20:09:16
I want this game - I need this game - I want this game - I need this game...
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Fuchs on 04-09-2010, 22:09:28
I want this game - I need this game - I want this game - I need this game...
I share your needs!
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Hockeywarrior on 05-09-2010, 03:09:02
I want this game - I need this game - I want this game - I need this game...
Welcome to my world of the last 2 years ...

It's just that not only does this game look good -- it's so feature rich that it actually has, even if only on paper, shattered all of my expectations.

Oh and don't forget it's SHIPPING with an expansion pack, which may or may not cost a little bit extra. The expansion, Rising Storm, is being made by a separate mod team that is working closely with the dev team.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Eat Uranium on 05-09-2010, 03:09:25
I have to admit, I am very much stoked up for this.  Not enough for me to actually buy RO1 (I have the original v3.3mod and a medium opinion of it).  Really though, I just want to get my grubby mits on some Russian guns.

Best thing about that gameplay trailer was it showed the C96 and Nagant 1895 pistols <3.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Hockeywarrior on 05-09-2010, 03:09:29
Best thing about that gameplay trailer was it showed the C96 and Nagant 1895 pistols <3.
Yes!! I loved those guns in the mod.

But honestly, RO1 is much different and mostly better in every way than the mod. There are few things that they changed that I didn't like to much, but in general the game is much improved.

If you ever did decide to buy it just wait til steam has a crazy sale again. Last time TWI's games went on sale on Steam, RO was like 3 dollars or something silly. At that kind of price you HAVE to buy it.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: General_Henry on 05-09-2010, 08:09:04
I feel that FH2 is more fun than RO, but now I'm not sure about what if RO2 comes out!

Finally bot crews! hurray! No more stupid people screaming for "we need a reloader player".

pity that my laptop is too crappy for this I suppose, and I don't see that I'll be owning a PC in the near future... :(


now some of my opinions on FH2 vs RO

RO has many advantages over FH2, for infantry, better melee attacks, grenade cooking, weapon resting/deploying, flying limbs, leaning.... for tanks, they have more mechanical turret which prevents the tank from sniping enemy infantry.

Of course, RO was annoying in some aspects, for example, it is not comfortable to move the character around, rifles too difficult to use, tanking is difficult as you can't really communicate with the driver effectively like IRL as the commander.

In FH/FH2 your character might get stuck due to a piece of stupid wood or whatever, but generally I feel my control of the character is better.

Games like COD2 are nice as you don't need to mess with hopping over a fence whatever, I'd think this is very important in WW2 FPS games. I want to enjoy the gameplay/teamwork not trying to figure out how to get over that stone wall or going through that hole in the wall.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Rawhide on 05-09-2010, 10:09:25
The only thing I didn't like with RO1 was the slow paced infantry game play which often worked but sometimes in intense situation could be really frustrating

But, as Hockeywarrior says. RO is still worth every penny.

I bought at the release for full price over Steam and I don't regret it and even today it's only like 9,99€

An awesome game and some really nice mods (Darkest Hour and Mare Nostrum!)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 05-09-2010, 11:09:19
Lets just see if this game has the same destiny as its prequel did. RO was all ooh aah and the best thing in the world for *couple of weeks* and then it died flat on its arse...
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 05-09-2010, 11:09:46
Lets just see if this game has the same destiny as its prequel did. RO was all ooh aah and the best thing in the world for *couple of weeks* and then it died flat on its arse...
You´re sure?
The original RO is still played allot these days. Just yesterday evening I played a bit and found 3 or 4 servers filled with 50 players each and some others filled with around 30.
It´s already a niché game but still has many players up to today. And let´s not forget that Steam and Tripwire still release free content and that especially DH is being played alot. Also every bonus Steam makes draws in more players.
RO1 is far from being dead, and I don´t expect RO2 to be dead after some weeks. Especially with the free content packs Tripwire is going to release after the initial release.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 05-09-2010, 11:09:29
I dont care about player numbers themselfs but game mechanics and style. RO suffered from very clumsy feeling infantry combat and the tank combat was even more horrid. I loved the details but god, how fun is it that the tanker who is fastest to drive the IS-2 or Tiger to the high point of a map and starts dominating everything from there? Tank combat was nothing but sitting about and sniping, no epic rushes.

That is where the game died on me. After initial ooh-aah experience, it turned out not to be a fun game. And since I base this on my own opinion, yes I am bloody sure.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 05-09-2010, 12:09:26
It´s your oppinion and it´s alright that you don´t like it. As you said, "let´s wait and see".
RO isn´t everyone´s cup of tea and it´ll be the same case with RO2, too, but I feel that the folks who like the old RO won´t be disappointed by it.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Yustax on 05-09-2010, 22:09:16
Incredible feeling, I just wish they can use more players than 64. Also Im somewhat confused about the AI tank crew, I dont like the feeling that tankers can go lonewolf; even if the AI crew its vulnerable, the driver should be the most vulnerable crew member and the supply zones should respawn them really, really slowly. Also I praise the tank combat, and I wish I could see how greatly it works.

Time will tell...
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Hockeywarrior on 06-09-2010, 04:09:59
I dont care about player numbers themselfs but game mechanics and style. RO suffered from very clumsy feeling infantry combat and the tank combat was even more horrid. I loved the details but god, how fun is it that the tanker who is fastest to drive the IS-2 or Tiger to the high point of a map and starts dominating everything from there? Tank combat was nothing but sitting about and sniping, no epic rushes.

That is where the game died on me. After initial ooh-aah experience, it turned out not to be a fun game. And since I base this on my own opinion, yes I am bloody sure.
I honestly think your opinion is in the minority. IMO the biggest problem with RO1 was that it was brutal on noobs, and most people hated it when they first played it because they got owned by experienced players and some aspects of the gameplay came off as clunky. Then, if they got past that 2 week period of frustration, they loved or at least somewhat liked the game.

I thought the same thing back when I first tried the RO mod for UT2k3, but now when I play RO I honestly feel like I have just as much, if not MORE control, than any other game out there. When you really get familiar with the game mechanics, it plays very smoothly.

That said, it's still frustrating at times, and it can be very difficult to do simple tasks. But it looks like RO:HOS is going to improve on the previous game in everyway, and strive to make the game more accessible (in the RIGHT ways) without dumbing down the gameplay.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Kev4000 on 06-09-2010, 05:09:48
Wow! Impressive graphics in the trailer... nice body movements of the soldiers. Hey, they ran like normal guys! They fall down as they are expected to do it... and wow, damn nice tanks!

FH3 as a stand alone would be nice... or if it was to use this sexy starting point.  8)

Well... let's not forgotten the hope.  ;)

Sorry to disappoint, but I'm 99% sure the latest trailer is pre-rendered. Such as this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FXPM_wChUs&p=280FB2E3E1E5714E&playnext=1&index=2

Still looks amazing though!
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Zrix on 06-09-2010, 08:09:22
Sorry to disappoint, but I'm 99% sure the latest trailer is pre-rendered. Such as this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FXPM_wChUs&p=280FB2E3E1E5714E&playnext=1&index=2

Still looks amazing though!
Quote from: Yoshiro
It is scripted, but it is shot ingame with ingame assets and ingame animations :)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: sn00x on 06-09-2010, 13:09:14
is there any trailer showing their new tanks and all that?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Zrix on 06-09-2010, 14:09:17
is there any trailer showing their new tanks and all that?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUVoPbmooTo 1:10 and forward.

Nothing else so far.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: sn00x on 06-09-2010, 14:09:23
hmm.. nice.. hope we get interior like that aswell
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Zrix on 06-09-2010, 14:09:30
hmm.. nice.. hope we get interior like that aswell
That's what's awesome, it's gonna look just like that.

Read this for moar awesomeness. http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/09/02/red-orchestra-heroes-of-stalingrad-vehicles/
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Natty on 06-09-2010, 19:09:53
Im not sold at all. They need to convince me alot more if I am to buy this game... :-\
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Fuchs on 06-09-2010, 19:09:24
Please don't ever buy it, don't want to come acros someone ingame who keeps preaching about how much better BC2 is.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Nissi on 06-09-2010, 20:09:06
Im not sold at all. They need to convince me alot more if I am to buy this game... :-\

Well, pimp it then, and we will play the pimp version of it... or let's call it FH3.  8)

Seriously I hope that they give a nice ground game which would be suitable for adjustments as I already gave up my hopes for the BF3 publication. And till then we still have our wonderful FH2.  ;)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Hockeywarrior on 06-09-2010, 22:09:23
Wow! Impressive graphics in the trailer... nice body movements of the soldiers. Hey, they ran like normal guys! They fall down as they are expected to do it... and wow, damn nice tanks!

FH3 as a stand alone would be nice... or if it was to use this sexy starting point.  8)

Well... let's not forgotten the hope.  ;)

Sorry to disappoint, but I'm 99% sure the latest trailer is pre-rendered. Such as this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FXPM_wChUs&p=280FB2E3E1E5714E&playnext=1&index=2

Still looks amazing though!
That's where you're wrong Kev. All the footage in the trailer is rendered in-game (in-engine). Both of those environments shown are actual maps in the game. All of the running animations, reload animations, etc are also actual animations for the game, as well as all of the internal tank animations.

The only things that are "pre-done" are some custom animations for the video like the Commissar telling them to charge, the German squadleader who leads his squad through the street, and all the facial animations throughout the video. But all of it is ingame and uses real assets and many real animations.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Bang0o on 06-09-2010, 23:09:31
I want this game - I need this game - I want this game - I need this game...
i second that
even it will be hyped and actual not so good, i will buy it just because ro1 was awesome  :D

and even it will be the shittyest crap ever, its still better than bc3  :D
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Mayhemic.MAD on 07-09-2010, 00:09:20
I´m gonna buy it aswell. I just hope it won´t turn into a disaster like Silent Hunter V.  >:(
And RO is still awesome (just played Darkest Hour this weekened). Sometimes I think RO is just to realistic and feels like real war, so I´m afraid to play it and play FH2 instead :P
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Yustax on 07-09-2010, 17:09:43
I hope this game also have anti tank emplacements. Hope that at least a Pak 38.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Natty on 07-09-2010, 19:09:15
Please don't ever buy it, don't want to come acros someone ingame who keeps preaching about how much better BC2 is.

why would I compare those two games with each other? It's like going to an italian restaurant and preach how much better indian food is.  :-\
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Fuchs on 07-09-2010, 19:09:37
Because the propaganda machine will continue to roll.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Aggroman on 07-09-2010, 19:09:19
Im not sold at all. They need to convince me alot more if I am to buy this game... :-\

"Hey look, Dice made a battlefield-fanatic monkey out of me! :D"
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Natty on 07-09-2010, 19:09:09
you have played more BC2 than me  :-*

Aggroman--> http://bfbc2.statsverse.com/stats/pc/aggroman
Natty --> http://bfbc2.statsverse.com/stats/pc/Natty
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Aggroman on 08-09-2010, 16:09:22
Was fun the first few days, but then I got bored of it. :-\
EA was able to convince me to buy the game, but they also taught me to better check a game before buying it.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: G.Drew on 08-09-2010, 17:09:07
Got about as far as level 24 (final weapon unlock) then I just stopped playing. Just couldnt be arsed with it.

Anyway, I like what theve said about the vehicles in the game, apart from the fact theres only going to be 2 on release.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: NTH on 08-09-2010, 17:09:07
Wow! Impressive graphics in the trailer... nice body movements of the soldiers. Hey, they ran like normal guys! They fall down as they are expected to do it... and wow, damn nice tanks!

FH3 as a stand alone would be nice... or if it was to use this sexy starting point.  8)

Well... let's not forgotten the hope.  ;)

Sorry to disappoint, but I'm 99% sure the latest trailer is pre-rendered. Such as this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FXPM_wChUs&p=280FB2E3E1E5714E&playnext=1&index=2

Still looks amazing though!
That's where you're wrong Kev. All the footage in the trailer is rendered in-game (in-engine). Both of those environments shown are actual maps in the game. All of the running animations, reload animations, etc are also actual animations for the game, as well as all of the internal tank animations.

The only things that are "pre-done" are some custom animations for the video like the Commissar telling them to charge, the German squadleader who leads his squad through the street, and all the facial animations throughout the video. But all of it is ingame and uses real assets and many real animations.

The thing is in this video you don't know what's real and what's not. Take the BF2 intro for example, you can see some animations, like the Chinise guy slapping a fly, that off course isn't portrayed in the real game.
Having said that I am really pumped for this game, looks fantastic!!
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Fuchs on 08-09-2010, 17:09:09
Chinese guy slapping a fly is an idle animation and is ingame  :-* The dropping weapons however, are not.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Sander93 on 08-09-2010, 18:09:09
Anyway, I like what theve said about the vehicles in the game, apart from the fact theres only going to be 2 on release.

I don't mind it, like they said theyll at least have those two tanks balanced out. All other early eastern front tanks either suck or are overpowered anyway.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Hockeywarrior on 09-09-2010, 01:09:09
Wow! Impressive graphics in the trailer... nice body movements of the soldiers. Hey, they ran like normal guys! They fall down as they are expected to do it... and wow, damn nice tanks!

FH3 as a stand alone would be nice... or if it was to use this sexy starting point.  8)

Well... let's not forgotten the hope.  ;)

Sorry to disappoint, but I'm 99% sure the latest trailer is pre-rendered. Such as this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FXPM_wChUs&p=280FB2E3E1E5714E&playnext=1&index=2

Still looks amazing though!
That's where you're wrong Kev. All the footage in the trailer is rendered in-game (in-engine). Both of those environments shown are actual maps in the game. All of the running animations, reload animations, etc are also actual animations for the game, as well as all of the internal tank animations.

The only things that are "pre-done" are some custom animations for the video like the Commissar telling them to charge, the German squadleader who leads his squad through the street, and all the facial animations throughout the video. But all of it is ingame and uses real assets and many real animations.

The thing is in this video you don't know what's real and what's not. Take the BF2 intro for example, you can see some animations, like the Chinise guy slapping a fly, that off course isn't portrayed in the real game.
Having said that I am really pumped for this game, looks fantastic!!
I'm only basing my knowledge on what I've seen in actual gameplay footage and what the developers have confirmed on the forums. I'm not making up anything, I promise.

I recently was told by Ramm (project lead) that all of the interior tank animations shown in the video are real.

Oh and here is some nice footage from the PAX conference. Mostly shows old stuff, but you do get a nice glimpse of the map "Fallen Fighters" -- Red Square, in other words.

http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=45648
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: NTH on 09-09-2010, 10:09:09
Chinese guy slapping a fly is an idle animation and is ingame  :-* The dropping weapons however, are not.

Is this only with the Chinese? This smell like a discrimination lawsuit coming on ;)
RO: HoS with those animation would be great for movie making.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Beaufort on 09-09-2010, 15:09:59
Oh and here is some nice footage from the PAX conference. Mostly shows old stuff, but you do get a nice glimpse of the map "Fallen Fighters" -- Red Square, in other words.

http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=45648

OMG ! That realy makes me want to finish this FH1's Stalingrad map of mine !
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Hockeywarrior on 09-09-2010, 19:09:56
Oh and here is some nice footage from the PAX conference. Mostly shows old stuff, but you do get a nice glimpse of the map "Fallen Fighters" -- Red Square, in other words.

http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=45648

OMG ! That realy makes me want to finish this FH1's Stalingrad map of mine !
Yeah and the cool thing is that its a 1:1 scale representation of Red Square. One of the other maps -- The Grain Elevator -- is also 1:1 scale. Some of the mappers from TWI actually went to these locations in person and took photos, made drawings, etc to make sure they got them right.

It's pretty amazing too, because as Ramm says in one of those vids I just linked, no one had been allowed inside the Grain Elevator in Stalingrad since the battle ended -- one of TW's staff members had connections in the city and got them permission to go inside!
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Mayhemic.MAD on 09-09-2010, 20:09:26
Oh and here is some nice footage from the PAX conference. Mostly shows old stuff, but you do get a nice glimpse of the map "Fallen Fighters" -- Red Square, in other words.

http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=45648
Hmm, adjustable sights for Rifles in vid 3 .. switching from scope to sights..  I´m amazed by all the details they put in 8)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: djinn on 09-09-2010, 22:09:26
Roll over, 1944 dday-op. Overlord.

Can.g't wait to get this. Hope they decide to go Normandy too
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Beaufort on 10-09-2010, 03:09:19
Yeah and the cool thing is that its a 1:1 scale representation of Red Square. One of the other maps -- The Grain Elevator -- is also 1:1 scale.

I've got a feeling we will have this one in FH2 too ;)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Alakazou on 10-09-2010, 04:09:57
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/pax-10-red-orchestra/704272

The game mechanics look great. But, why they don't make plane physic or boat...
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Sander93 on 10-09-2010, 08:09:39
Is there any game footage showing rifles yet? All I've seen being used so far are the MP40 and PPSh. I would like to see some K98s and Nagants. :D
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Die Happy on 10-09-2010, 10:09:16
i think there was footage from gamescom or was it E3 showing the new "timesensitive" game mode with rifle & pistol action besides the ppsh/mp40.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Mayhemic.MAD on 10-09-2010, 12:09:31
http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=45648
Hmm, adjustable sights for Rifles in vid 3 .. switching from scope to sights..  I´m amazed by all the details they put in 8)
Watch Video 3 !
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Sander93 on 10-09-2010, 16:09:47
Yeah saw that bit but is there any footage of normal rifles in combat? I'm intrested in how they will be aimed, since the 'loose gun' stuff isn't gonna work that easy when you can't spray bullets and ajust. On the other hand it would be cool if you really had to make it a skill to shoot these rifles.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Mayhemic.MAD on 10-09-2010, 16:09:39
In the vid you can see him aiming down the sights of his K98 instead of trough the Scope. He can choose freely if he want´s to use the scope or the default sights. He can adjust the range of the scope as well as the default sights.
So if you disregard the scope, you are seeing what normal rifles will be like.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 17-09-2010, 14:09:05
A giant batch of new high-res screenshots have been released on the official game homepage:
http://www.heroesofstalingrad.com/ (http://www.heroesofstalingrad.com/)

Seriously, this game looks awesome. I really can´t wait for it! Character models look fine, too, especially the German models look now less like clone Zombies, though I´d love to see more variety. But it´s still some time untill the game is being released, so much can change.
EDIT: Also read this (http://www.pcgamer.com/2010/09/07/wwii-is-new-again-trailer-screens-for-red-orchestra-heroes-of-stalingrad/)! 64 players in MP, btw.
And this]http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=45598]this (http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=45598)! Jeez, I feel like the little boy I have once been, waiting for Christmas to get his presents. *crazygiggle*
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: SJonni on 17-09-2010, 22:09:55
They need more sprint animations for the Germans.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Hockeywarrior on 18-09-2010, 00:09:54
There are many videos showing the K98 in action (for a small period of time). Here are some generally interesting links that you all may not have seen:

Audio interview with VP of TWI:
http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=45783

Explanation of the MP Campaign!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrRJ5ZP7gy4

This thread has a demo in three parts. The first talks alot about mechanics (and how recoil works!), the second shows some gameplay (and cover system) with the K98:
http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=45648
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Wilhelm on 04-11-2010, 05:11:54
This is for VonMudra!  :-*

The screenshot would be too large to post directly.

http://pics.roladder.net/ef2c14c0071b4d448ae4b1b87b9f8b2e.jpg
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: VonMudra on 04-11-2010, 06:11:05
Lafette fail.  They forgot the scope....  :-\
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Fuchs on 04-11-2010, 10:11:54
Is that a Schütze wearing an NCO cap?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: DLFReporter on 04-11-2010, 10:11:20
Is that a Schütze wearing an NCO cap?

I think that might be ok in this case, since the cap has no silver officer cord.
Edit: Although they seem to try to make him into an NCO by giving him the cap and a binoc. ;)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Fuchs on 04-11-2010, 10:11:53
Black leather cord is indeed NCO but isn't he a bit low ranked for being one? Like if you where an average/good soldier you got to Gefreiter into no time as it evolved out of itself  :P
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Wilhelm on 04-11-2010, 17:11:01
Lafette fail.  They forgot the scope....  :-\

Couldn't you use it without the scope?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Hockeywarrior on 04-11-2010, 22:11:43
Ok guys, time to jizz your pants.

In a recent visit to Russia, TWI finally spills the beans on showing tanks!!

http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=47165

Video part 2 in that thread shows all of the workings of the tanks! Talk about ridiculously detailed ... seriously my head might explode...
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: VonMudra on 04-11-2010, 22:11:28
Yeah, but they still kept the scope on since it was much more difficult to aim without a scope, since then you'd have to hover your head perfectly to get the sights placed right, since you didn't have the gun butt against your shoulder and all.

And on the NCO cap, there WERE enlisted visor caps, but they were for dress uniform only.  The NCOs could wear a crusher cap in field though, but that was an exception.

Also, the eagle on the cap is too big, its missing the national cockade, and he is def an enlisted man :P
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Leopardi on 05-12-2010, 02:12:13
Helis confirmed for vietnam I guess :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBVx4MFpAoA&hd=1
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Yustax on 05-12-2010, 03:12:50
Helis confirmed for vietnam I guess :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBVx4MFpAoA&hd=1

Lol fancy meeting you here.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Hockeywarrior on 05-12-2010, 07:12:13
Helis confirmed for vietnam I guess :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBVx4MFpAoA&hd=1

Lol fancy meeting you here.
Meh not that surprising really -- there is a huge number of people who are common to this forum and the RO2 forum ... including myself hehe.

In Country is looking pretty nice already. Hopefully we get more news out of Rising Storm soon as well.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 05-12-2010, 10:12:38
Let me get this straight....they already develop a Vietnamn mod for the yet unreleased RO2? How awesome is that? If the mod will be released RO2 will definately be worth its money! Just plain awesome...
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Nissi on 05-12-2010, 12:12:32
Wow! I don't want to know the system requirements you need to get the graphics that the put in the video. It's just awesome!

In comparison to the FH2 grounds it's like the switch from FH1 to FH2.  :-X The devs deserve a new engine to work with.   8)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Bang0o on 05-12-2010, 13:12:57
epic!!!!
i want it !!! i want it now!!!!
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Yustax on 05-12-2010, 15:12:38
Meh not that surprising really -- there is a huge number of people who are common to this forum and the RO2 forum ... including myself hehe.

I known him in the Battlefield 3 UK EA forums, not RO2 forums.

And I cant believe that the prototype of the MP44, the Mkb 42(H) its going to be in the game. What the hell they were thinking?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: siben on 05-12-2010, 16:12:02
Well, why not? They have been found on battlefields on the eastern front, so they where definitely used there in numbers big enough to be found even today.

(http://www.detektorweb.cz/upload/clanky/8177/obr7.jpg)
(http://images24.fotosik.pl/125/a4a04efe0db1c9b4.jpg)


http://www.detektorweb.cz/index.4me?s=show&lang=1&i=8177&mm=3&xb=1&vd=1#topp
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Thorondor123 on 05-12-2010, 16:12:35
Meh not that surprising really -- there is a huge number of people who are common to this forum and the RO2 forum ... including myself hehe.


And I cant believe that the prototype of the MP44, the Mkb 42(H) its going to be in the game. What the hell they were thinking?
As far as I know, the MKb 42 was field-tested in Stalingrad.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Yustax on 05-12-2010, 16:12:47
As far as I know, the MKb 42 was field-tested in Stalingrad.

I have never seen one of those in Stalingrad ever, not even in pictures. To my knowledge, just 11k prototypes were constructed and it was ultra rare to even be in the hands of a soldier in Stalingrad. Besides, later the first models of the MP43 were being constructed.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Hockeywarrior on 05-12-2010, 19:12:24
As far as I know, the MKb 42 was field-tested in Stalingrad.

I have never seen one of those in Stalingrad ever, not even in pictures. To my knowledge, just 11k prototypes were constructed and it was ultra rare to even be in the hands of a soldier in Stalingrad. Besides, later the first models of the MP43 were being constructed.
Let's PLEASE not drag this painful topic to the FH forums. Seriously.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Alakazou on 09-12-2010, 17:12:01
http://nofrag.com/images/005726/
http://nofrag.com/images/005727/
http://nofrag.com/images/005728/
http://nofrag.com/images/005729/
http://nofrag.com/images/00572a/

Enjoy
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: von.small on 09-12-2010, 17:12:41
A single shot in RO2 has more reprocussions that entire skirmishes in other games - I love that  ;D

I fondly remember the tank battles, and commanding sitting there waiting for the gunner to wake the fuck up and shoot properly - tense stuff when (even though it's a game) put your faith in someone else, if they screw up you really want to punch their face in lol!
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Ciupita on 09-12-2010, 18:12:19
I must get this game.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: SiCaRiO on 09-12-2010, 18:12:04
"hold R to see if your mag is heavy or ligth"

that just blew mi mind.

Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Paasky on 09-12-2010, 20:12:06
My intrigue is slowly building up... But I've been disappointed by every shooter since BF2 came out so I'm weary of building up hope...
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: ajappat on 09-12-2010, 20:12:07
This all seem so cool, I just hope it doesn't feel too complicated.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Natty on 09-12-2010, 20:12:36
will probably try it but if they overcomplicated everything with anal hardcorism Im just going to yawn and forget about it. Might be a fun in-between game waiting for bf3 though
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Fuchs on 09-12-2010, 21:12:07
will probably try it but if they overcomplicated everything with anal hardcorism Im just going to yawn and forget about it. Might be a fun in-between game waiting for bf3 though
Awkward, a product not created by DICE and what does the post contain? A neutral but negative wave!
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Natty on 09-12-2010, 21:12:17
Awkward, a product not created by DICE and what does the post contain? A neutral but negative wave!

hm, what?  ???
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Seth_Soldier on 09-12-2010, 21:12:10
 :) RO2 is presented by the expert as the best multiplayer game of 2011.
 :D and their support of modding is so great that we will certainly get the quality mod only few month after the release.

I really hope this game will be a hit which will provide them a lot of money, they deserve it !
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Fuchs on 09-12-2010, 21:12:21
Awkward, a product not created by DICE and what does the post contain? A neutral but negative wave!

hm, what?  ???
It's just how everything from DICE is awesome and great while other games are ok but boy oh boy, wouldn't it be terrible of this or this happened with it.

You could have said something positive about this and maybe mention a negative point about a DICE game, that would balance things out. No offense but on games and stuff your posts always look sort of biased.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Yustax on 09-12-2010, 22:12:00
:) RO2 is presented by the expert as the best multiplayer game of 2011.
 :D and their support of modding is so great that we will certainly get the quality mod only few month after the release.

I really hope this game will be a hit which will provide them a lot of money, they deserve it !

I agree, it will surely get this game. And its so mod friendly that even as we speak, the vietnam, pacific and modern mods are being created. Tripwire kicks the ass of DICE.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: SiCaRiO on 09-12-2010, 23:12:02
Awkward, a product not created by DICE and what does the post contain? A neutral but negative wave!

hm, what?  ???
It's just how everything from DICE is awesome and great while other games are ok but boy oh boy, wouldn't it be terrible of this or this happened with it.

You could have said something positive about this and maybe mention a negative point about a DICE game, that would balance things out. No offense but on games and stuff your posts always look sort of biased.

what do you espect? this guys is paid to make shity mainstream games.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Natty on 10-12-2010, 20:12:46
You could have said something positive about this and maybe mention a negative point about a DICE game, that would balance things out. No offense but on games and stuff your posts always look sort of biased.

sure I can say something positive :) It looks like a decent sequa. If they haven't screwed up the game with too much hardcorizm features that dont have anything to do with game play, it can be a fun shooter. It looks OK on videos/screenshots. I will buy it, can't be more positive than that, or?

Why I am sceptical is only because they have tendencies to entangle their designs too much in detailed features that dont really have anything to do with the shooter experience... these games usually just results in that players after having gone through the learning process, confuses the game play with these features. Like in PR. the actual battlefield2 experience is totally unaffected by requesting kits from some magic box, talking to friends on VoIP, moving in formation, 3p animations, sound and weapon-models. All these are "outside" the real game, and therefor uninteresting to me.
I hope RO2 allows me to play the game and enjoy without having to know how to tie shoe-lazes, press 5 buttons to reload the gun, know how an IRL tank works, or any of these other "harcorizm special features"

I certainly dont think everything "dice" does is awesome and great, because it isn't. No games are, all have flaws.. I dont know where this fixation on who makes the games comes from.. to me all games are.. games, nothing else. if they're good, they're good. simple really  :-\


what do you espect? this guys is paid to make shity mainstream games.

am I know? lol "ok" master-of-all-things-holy-and-pure

Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Ciupita on 10-12-2010, 20:12:18
Some people have fun because of that hardcore. And there is a lot of that kind of people, ok, not as much as CoD- and BC2-lovers but a lot anyway. This game is targeted for them, not CoD-lovers.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: SiCaRiO on 10-12-2010, 21:12:20

Why I am sceptical is only because they have tendencies to entangle their designs too much in detailed features that dont really have anything to do with the shooter experience... these games usually just results in that players after having gone through the learning process, confuses the game play with these features. Like in PR. the actual battlefield2 experience is totally unaffected by requesting kits from some magic box, talking to friends on VoIP, moving in formation, 3p animations, sound and weapon-models. All these are "outside" the real game, and therefor uninteresting to me.


exactly, why add more things to the game?? we should just make counter strike coppies and sell them to full price !
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Natty on 10-12-2010, 21:12:19
exactly, why add more things to the game?? we should just make counter strike coppies and sell them to full price !

sounds pretty boring, CS wasn't fun at all. :-\
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: SiCaRiO on 10-12-2010, 22:12:33
if every game developer think like you (gameplay aditions are "outside" the real game) all games we would have rigth now would be CS coppies .
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Paasky on 10-12-2010, 22:12:14
I certainly dont think everything "dice" does is awesome and great, because it isn't. No games are, all have flaws.. I dont know where this fixation on who makes the games comes from.. to me all games are.. games, nothing else.

Most games are games with bugs, DICE games are bugs with a game hidden inside them.



/troll



If they've made all the extra complexity as effortless to use as jumping and doing crazy prakour stunts was in Mirror's Edge, it's going to be great. I played that game from start to finish four times in a row, such pure enjoyment. Yet I despise other games of that genre...
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Kradovech on 10-12-2010, 22:12:06
From what I have seen from the videos, they have managed to make their complex features quite simple and logical to use with not many different keys involved (the first person cover system, tank driving...)

I also like that one gamemode (I forgot the name), where you can only spawn once for taking one objective, looks like a good balance between FH2 and PR spawn systems.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Natty on 10-12-2010, 23:12:04
if every game developer think like you (gameplay aditions are "outside" the real game) all games we would have rigth now would be CS coppies .

no they wouldn't.

look, Im sure RO2 is very cool and fun. I just find extra little things like exact number of hand-maneuvers to cock a boltaction rifles and realistic soldier-like moving a bit... old. It's 2011 soon, we can have superb shooter games that are fubn because of great leveldesign, game modes, nice graphics, nice sounds and solid shooter design, we don't need to all this "realism" crap on top, it derives from the game more than it adds. It feels like someone who doesn't know how to make the core thing good adds to "hide" the thing he cant do good with. I just said I hope they haven't covered the game in a goo of these things (you know which things I mean)

I agree, it will surely get this game. And its so mod friendly that even as we speak, the vietnam, pacific and modern mods are being created. Tripwire kicks the ass of DICE.

Tripwire kicking dice's ass? Are you 11 years old?  :-\
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Yustax on 11-12-2010, 00:12:53
Tripwire kicking dice's ass? Are you 11 years old?  :-\

Oh but they do. I have no faith in BF3. BC2 was a disgrace for the Battlefield name, a cheap console port with no support and a look alike of Call of Duty for a quick buck and zero mod tools with the excuse of the tools "being too complex" and then a quick pic of the engine mod tools were shown and it was not so complex. They didnt even wanted to release the server files, and the game was only saved because someone was smart enough to leak them to the internet.

If they show the same path in BF3, Battlefield series will be officially dead for me and I will move to RO2. At least Tripwire interacts with the community, they give pics, videos, interviews. And what does Dice do? "Uh we cant tell too much right now but its going to be awesome!"
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: SiCaRiO on 11-12-2010, 00:12:58

 It's 2011 soon, we can have superb shooter games that are fubn because of great leveldesign, game modes, nice graphics, nice sounds and solid shooter design,


nice graphics the core of a game??

ok, im done here....
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Thorondor123 on 11-12-2010, 00:12:05
That's not what he said, and you know it.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Natty on 11-12-2010, 10:12:36
bla bla bla

this mantra is getting old.. seriously, give it a rest. you cant mod frostbite, didnt you read MikaelKalms explanation in the public ea forum which you nag so much in? a quick look on the tool and you decided "it is not so complex" allow me to roflolz0r while.... did you ever make a mod?

bc2 a disgrace? ... zzzz... just stop embarrasing yourself ok? BC2 is an awesome game and every single emloyee at EA and dice is super proud of it, so there you have it, the end.

back on RO2 topic plz. will there be a demo?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: SiCaRiO on 18-01-2011, 02:01:53
http://media.steampowered.com/steamcommunity/public/images/apps/35450/a8a6a8499825f5e40108a80bbf60632fe116322d.jpg
http://media.steampowered.com/steamcommunity/public/images/apps/35450/fffe0429208040511e3c1d44198e6dbc2dcb08fc.jpg

Quote
As so many people asked for a look at the cutaway picture of the Panzer IV that was recently published in PC Gamer (here in the US), we thought we would be kind and oblige. There are now two pictures available via the Steam official game group for RO2. Of course, this is also a good reason to join the official game group, if you haven’t already – you would have been notified directly of them being posted. So, if you haven’t already, head on over to the OGG, by CLICKING HERE (http://"http://steamcommunity.com/games/RO2") or on the thumbnails below!


FUCKING AMAZING!
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Tim270 on 19-01-2011, 02:01:07
Hey guys, just thought I would post this as it may attract some interest here. Me and a few friends have been working on this for a little while and are finally presenting some content. Also looking for people with a lot of a knowledge of the campaign and anyone with knowledge of unrealscript.  - Tim.

(http://i.imgur.com/fip9K.gif)


In the late hours of 23 August 1939, the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact is signed, sealing Poland's fate. Just 8 days later, on September the 1st, the attack commences. The Polish army is outnumbered, out-gunned and surrounded by two of the largest superpowers of the era yet they conduct a heroic defence. Poland's defence relies on a British and French attack from the West into Germany, the Western help never arrives. By 6th October the Second Polish Republic is no more. They were the First to Fight.


First to Fight is a RO: Heros of Stalingrad mod set in the invasion of Poland in 1939.  We intend to create a realistic portrayal of the battles fought on the East and West of Poland as it struggles to resist two of the biggest superpowers in the world. The focus of the mod is to create a fully functional Polish faction including infantry weapons, vehicles and maps. The mod will also focus on the German and Soviet factions, kitting them out with equipment accurate to 1939.


(http://i.imgur.com/pZTcd.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/eGRFN.jpg)
(Click for larger image)

(http://i.imgur.com/YHV2U.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/iu0uc.jpg) 
(Click for larger image)

(http://i.imgur.com/mQftB.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/LsJP9.jpg)
(Click for larger image)


We are always looking for new team members. If you have any relevant skills and would like to contribute, contact us at; contact@ftfmod.com

Stay tuned at our website (http://www.ftfmod.com) and forums (http://www.ftfmod.com/forum/index.php) for further updates.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Thorondor123 on 19-01-2011, 03:01:15
Poland mod, hell yeah! \o/
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hankypanky on 19-01-2011, 03:01:35
This game is going to be the GOD of modding :D
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: 9.Pz Benz on 15-02-2011, 08:02:37
Preview, translate from a russian website.

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://www.ag.ru/articles/interviews/red_orchestra_2_heroes_of_stalingrad/5237 (http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://www.ag.ru/articles/interviews/red_orchestra_2_heroes_of_stalingrad/5237)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: RAnDOOm on 28-02-2011, 23:02:49
Brand new interview regarding RO2 :

http://www.gamersguidetolife.com/2011/02/exclusive-interview-red-orchestra-2.html
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: blue on 01-03-2011, 09:03:01
Just for the sake of discussion, I agree with some of Natty is saying; assuming I am interpreting him correctly.

Part of the reason I love FH2 and detest PR is because the realism does not get in the way of the actual gameplay. PR adds layers which at times may seem realistic, but on a gameplay level just tended to frustrate me. RO was an excellent game but there were elements that to myself were needlessly complicated. Having to re-bolt your weapon was to me an annoying and not particularly any more enriching gameplay feature. The standard mechanic is to reload since the majority of soldiers in combat situations want to chamber a new round. This is one example of the things that I like more about FH2 and groan about in games like PR and RO. I think this gives a good idea of what I am driving at.

That being said, I can understand the desires of hardcore sim players. I play IL-2 with a lot of realism settings off, while others want to simulate every little thing. RO2 will be moddable and has some configs, so for the most part I think everyone should be able to be made happy to some degree.

On a final note I really cannot stand EA, and my feelings towards dice are fairly neutral. EA's idiotic account systems have nearly driven me up the wall, and I had to go to tech support multiple times just to play my bloody copy of BF2142. A terrible publisher is probably the worst thing for any game.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: RAnDOOm on 11-03-2011, 16:03:30
Brand new gameplay videos. This is looking better and better.

Part 1:
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gd...chestra/711635

Part 2:
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gd...chestra/711637
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Paavopesusieni on 11-03-2011, 17:03:48
I really like that MG can cripple a tank, optics and that sort of stuff.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Sander93 on 11-03-2011, 17:03:35
Gameplay looks great, graphics are naw... And I sure hope they'll upgrade the German sprint animations. They look like retarded monkeys right now lol.  ;D
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 11-03-2011, 17:03:23
Crouch sprinting is my most favourite thing shown in this video!
Getting up quickly from the floor is really complicated in RO:OST and one of the most frustrating things in the game. I´ve already seen that "get-up-and-sprint-by-pressing-one-key"-feature in Battleground Europe and loved it.
Sure, it´s just a small feature compared to fully detailed tanks, but one that makes the game more fluid and less frustrating.
The rest looks fine, too, even though I´m not a real fan of levelling up and unlocking achievements.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LuckyOne on 11-03-2011, 19:03:21
This game looks sweet!
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Rawhide on 12-03-2011, 16:03:22
Crouch sprinting is my most favourite thing shown in this video!
Getting up quickly from the floor is really complicated in RO:OST and one of the most frustrating things in the game. I´ve already seen that "get-up-and-sprint-by-pressing-one-key"-feature in Battleground Europe and loved it.
Sure, it´s just a small feature compared to fully detailed tanks, but one that makes the game more fluid and less frustrating.
The rest looks fine, too, even though I´m not a real fan of levelling up and unlocking achievements.
I could not agree more, the slowed down bits in the infantry part of RO: OST really was a bitch
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LHeureux on 12-03-2011, 17:03:25
Yes I hated this.

"Pok" grenade.

Goodbye world, I can't escape.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Torenico on 13-03-2011, 06:03:50
Nice.

I like it, they pay attention to the community/players ^^
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: ajappat on 13-03-2011, 09:03:07
I hope they add way some way to get in same tank with friend. Nothing sucks more in RO than having map with just 1 or 2 tanks and random player driving for you.
Title: Red Orchestra franchise thread
Post by: Comrade Roe on 16-03-2011, 19:03:04
 The tensity of RO's gravity and how you have to adjust your optics to the right range for the perfect shot, and the tensity building up between 2 tank commanders in their slugfests as they try to calculate their shots while ordering their drivers/switch to the driver slot to avoid the enemy anti-tank shells.

One feature of RO that can never fail to put pressure in tank warfare.
Title: Re: Red Orchestra franchise thread
Post by: Rawhide on 16-03-2011, 19:03:43
No worries, mate

We usually hang out here for all kinds of RO talk (great game btw) -> http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?topic=602.msg190846#new
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Thorondor123 on 16-03-2011, 19:03:21
Merged.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Rawhide on 16-03-2011, 19:03:59
Merged.
This is why we love you

Anyhow, a new little preview,Red Orchestra 2 preview "Barrel-swapping heroics" > http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/03/14/red-orchestra-2-preview-barrel-swapping-heroics/
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Comrade Roe on 16-03-2011, 20:03:38
Notice that the article said you could play the single player mode on both sides. Will this be pretty much the first major commercial World War II first-person shooter title to have a single player campaign where you can play as the Germans?
First singleplayer campaign I know you can play as the axis at all, let alone the Germans, yes-sir-ee! God I can't wait for this game to come out already! And all its mods, Iron Europe, Rising Sun, First to Fight...

 I think all these other-front mods are a good reason for them to stay focused on the ostfront, because there's so many mod teams waiting to do virtually every other front there was.

 Tee hee, slaughtering tank crews as an infantry... Finally, infantry aren't at such disadvantage. Dang, RO and FH2 are making it hard to decide my favorite game. Anyways, can't wait for the finished thing. If everyone keeps making suggestions on the RO forums, there will never be such a game released...
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Natty on 17-03-2011, 08:03:01
Anyhow, a new little preview,Red Orchestra 2 preview "Barrel-swapping heroics" > http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/03/14/red-orchestra-2-preview-barrel-swapping-heroics/

inb4 the BFHeroes reference  ;D
"It’d be incongruent in a serious setting give players tiger facepaint or a golden MP40 to show off their Hero status"
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Thorondor123 on 17-03-2011, 15:03:03
"--so that the player looks more battle-hardened (as well as battle-worn) with each level."

Worn-out uniform and a Kurt Knispel -beard.

Yes please. ;D
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: DLFReporter on 17-03-2011, 16:03:53
The details to this game's depth sound sooooo awesome... ;D
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Paavopesusieni on 17-03-2011, 21:03:05
And what happens year later when everyone is a hero? Damn that sounds just outright stupid.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Eat Uranium on 17-03-2011, 21:03:59
And what happens year later when everyone is a hero? Damn that sounds just outright stupid.
Presumably they have some system that rates heroes relatively rather than absolutely (if you get my meaning).
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: flyboy_fx on 18-03-2011, 06:03:30
Holy Hell AMAZING GAME! Can't wait!!
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: 9.Pz Benz on 18-03-2011, 15:03:46
There are already 4 mods on the way for RO2:

http://www.moddb.com/mods?filter=t&kw=Search+...&released=def&style=def&theme=def&game=13366&type=def (http://www.moddb.com/mods?filter=t&kw=Search+...&released=def&style=def&theme=def&game=13366&type=def)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Comrade Roe on 22-03-2011, 23:03:47
Being a Hero in the game doesn't make you a god, it just gives you a bit more respect. Remember, they also stated having heroes on your team can have a BAD SIDE.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: 9.Pz Benz on 03-04-2011, 15:04:12
 Forgotten Honor: Red Orchestra 2  ;)

http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=51522 (http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=51522)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: RAnDOOm on 08-04-2011, 15:04:21
(http://hoststuff.forgottenhonor.com/media/RO2/forgottenhonor_ro2_advertisement2.png)

With our past Red Orchestra: Ostfront 41-45 events, and the support of many community members looking forward to the upcoming Heroes of Stalingrad game by Tripwire Interactive, we decided at Forgotten Honor to start the development of a massive team-play based online campaign for Red Orchestra 2.

The aim of this campaign is to offer to RO2 gamers a new gaming experience in our 11 week campaign. Tripwire Interactive’s gamers will enjoy RO2 at a new level of teamwork, historical immersion and social gaming. We plan to launch the campaign 2 weeks after the release of Red Orchestra: Heroes of Stalingrad.

(http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/3130/ro2o.jpg)

Forgotten Honor is already working for months in the planning of a brand new campaign for RO2:HoS. Alot has already been done and we are setting up the final touches has we speak.

  • We are looking for enthusiastic people who want to help planning and organizing the campaign. No specific requirements needed, just a creative thinking mind and a couple hours a week.
  • Contributors, Researchers , Newswriters , are many of the tasks waiting to be filled.
  • If you are motivated to make this campaign one of the best in RO2 history don't hesitate to contact us.
  • Imagine yourself organizing this WW2 simulation masterpiece on a 100% Teamplay and Teamwork environment at Forgotten Honor.
  • Want to make a positive action inside the community, all you have to do is join us!
About Forgotten Honor

Forgotten Honor is an international gaming community, with nearly 10.000 members, that has a great amount of experience in arranging online events for games. Founded in 2004 by several gamers who wanted to organize "teamwork" emphasized battles for computer games, Forgotten Honor has been growing until becoming one of the leaders in online events market powered by gamers. Nowadays it hosts several tournaments and campaigns for different games, organizes multiple events, has its own modding and mapping development department and is supported by an active community.

Tournament Interface

(http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/2527/83205618.jpg)

Forgotten Honor has a custom developed tournament interface for our long-term events, featuring:

• Exclusive for Forgotten Honor
• Easy Sign-up process (Multiple campaigns, sides and combat units)
• Automated system involving private forums and user profiling
• Profiles with integrated log of activity
• Deep detailed rank hierarchy structure and medal award system
• Campaign statistics
• Attendance submit

Medal/Badges Award System

Forgotten Honor provides a custom made medal/badges award system interface. During the progression of the campaign soldiers will be awarded with specific medals/badges and ranks proving their valour in the battlefield.

Just a few examples below:

(http://hoststuff.forgottenhonor.com/media/RO2/forgottenhonor_ro2_previewmedal1.jpg) (http://hoststuff.forgottenhonor.com/media/RO2/forgottenhonor_ro2_previewmedal2.jpg)  (http://hoststuff.forgottenhonor.com/media/RO2/forgottenhonor_ro2_previewmedal4.jpg)


Forgotten Honor will be entering a brand new world of WW2 gaming simulation, be a part of it!

The campaign promises to offer explosive, fun, and engaging gameplay. Tactics and teamplay will reign supreme in the field of battle, with detailed organisation, chains of command, and intense regiment-based warfare.

Even the newest recruit has the opportunity to become a key part of their regiment by advancing through the ranks and earning medals for their accomplishments.

If you are interested in helping dont hesitate and send a private message.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Lightning on 08-04-2011, 15:04:31
Don't post pictures with swastikas in them (the German medals, I removed them).
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Paavopesusieni on 08-04-2011, 18:04:14
Damn pussy German laws...
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Pascucci the Whiner on 08-04-2011, 19:04:47
Damn pussy German laws...

Yep, but don't blame lightning, blame the pussy German government. Lightning is just doing his job.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: RAnDOOm on 08-04-2011, 19:04:47
Don't post pictures with swastikas in them (the German medals, I removed them).

My apologies.

Thanks.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: 9.Pz Benz on 09-04-2011, 11:04:23
Don't post pictures with swastikas in them (the German medals, I removed them).

My apologies.

Thanks.

I signed up for future RO2 fighting, keep up the good work Randoom.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Comrade Roe on 13-04-2011, 01:04:09
Indeed do I plan to join these new campaigns as soon as I can, for I believe this will a be a most wonderful campaign, as I can concur from the last game, Red Orchestra Ostfront. Good luck in organizing, and see you in Stalingrad.
Title: The making of Red Orchestra
Post by: Ajs47951 on 14-05-2011, 19:05:23
The making of Red Orchestra

(http://media.pcgamer.com/files/2011/05/RO2_PR_Screenshot_RedOctoberFactory_German_MG_A-627x352.jpg)

It’s 1941 and Nazi Germany has just invaded the USSR, its erstwhile ally. SS counterintelligence soon detects a range of radio signals from communist and socialist sympathisers, embedded at all levels of European society. Since the SS call transmitters ‘piano’ and supervisors ‘conductors’, they name this nascent resistance network the Rote Kapelle – the Red Orchestra. Despite early successes, it is soon crushed.

Jump forward 60 years. It’s now 2001 and indie development is dying. The big publishers are forcing more independent studios to sell up, small developers struggle to get their games on the shelves, and the new chain games stores are squeezing the PC out. The modding community has reached its high point with Quake and Half-Life, but even this growth is decelerating as indie teams struggle to convert their online popularity into full-time contracts. It’s a bad time for PC gaming all over.

It’s in this harsh environment that Red Orchestra is born.

(http://media.pcgamer.com/files/2011/05/William-Bill-T-Munk-II-590x442.jpg)
(Bill Munk, demonstrating what realism looks like)

In 2001, the people who would one day found Tripwire were just a handful of keen modders, scattered around the world. Alan Wilson was in London, Dave Hensley in New York, Ingmar Spit in Holland, the rest mainly in America. Who actually started the mod isn’t clear, longest-serving team member William ‘Bill’ T Munk II, who joined in 2002, is as lost as the rest of them. “Oh, it’s prehistory, man.”

Initially, the plan was for the mod to be a stealth game, hence the Red Orchestra title. Mods in those days tended to coalesce on modding forums, so the early RO hopped between designs and engines like a gadfly with an itch.

John Gibson, lead programmer, recalls why they made it. “No one was making the game we wanted. A lot of the ‘realistic’ shooters played like Quake with WWII weapons. We introduced a whole bunch of revolutionary things that are common now: 3D ironsights, proper ballistics, realistic player movement, player damage… ” Gradually though, after trying the Medal of Honour and Soldier of Fortune II engines, the team settled on Unreal Tournament and an emphasis on realism.

(http://media.pcgamer.com/files/2011/05/RO_Mod_1-590x328.jpg)
(The original mod was low on polygons, high on quality.)

This choice allowed them to enter the Make Something Unreal competition, with its muchtrumpeted $1,000,000 prize, and changed their lives forever.

At the time there were perhaps 60 people working on the project, a huge talent base for a mod. “We had great animators, researchers, programmers, designers,” John recalls. “But then every team has guys who only show up in the IRC channel… there were probably 20 full-time producers, 20 who would do something cool occasionally, and 10 or 15 who were worthless.”

“And one or two who were worse than worthless,” puts in Alan, the lead historical researcher and now vice-president at Tripwire.

“There are at least two or three I would physically harm if I saw them,” John continues. “When we started winning, we were winning computers. One unproductive level designer claimed it was because his computer was slow, so we sent him a precious new computer. Of course, he then ran off into the sunset with his shiny new PC.”

All that said, 85% of the core people still work or contract for Tripwire Interactive.

(http://media.pcgamer.com/files/2011/05/Office-590x471.jpg)
(For a long time, Tripwire didn't have an office to call their own.)
Clone wars

Oddly, the team sat out of the first round of Make Something Unreal. But having seen the competition, they realised that they were way ahead of it. “The road to modding superstardom is littered with corpses of Counter-Strike clones,” says John. “All the other mods at the time, working on newer engines, were six months behind us… Our game, graphically, was the Crysis of its day.”

The 1.0 version of the mod was released in 2003-4 and well received by the community. Meanwhile, the team were winning every phase of the Make Something Unreal contest, and the success quickly went to their heads. “We got cocky,” says John. “We saw ourselves as the juggernaut that was going to destroy all comers.” As they got complacent, the other mods started to catch up. “I thought we were going to lose; so I got a group list of the top ten things that another mod will have that will beat us. I then took this and said ‘We’re going to be this mod; we’re going to make these ten things and put them in our game. And we did.”

To finish these elements, several of the core team quit their jobs, and worked 16-hour days for the final six months, while family and friends were telling them they were insane.

(http://media.pcgamer.com/files/2011/05/Alan-Wilson-590x442.jpg)
(Alan Wilson: vice-president, responsible citizen)

They won. “It was the Willy Wonka Golden Ticket,” says Bill, “indescribable exhilaration, vindication.” John was equally excited but he remembers getting hate mail “…after we won the infamous ‘million dollars’.” It turned out the prize wasn’t anything near a million dollars; most of that had been spent on the competition and prizes, or was tied up in the licences they’d won. So the team founded their new studio, Tripwire, on just $30,000.

The new cell

They started it in Atlanta. Three of them moved on site, others worked remotely. They expected the money to last three months – long enough, as there would be “Publishers beating down our doors to throw millions of dollars of cash in,” in Alan’s words. “We spent the first two weeks playing videogames and going ‘what do we do now?’ So naïve. Now we know that even a consensual deal might take three-six months to get the contracts through.”

A few publishers did beat down their doors, but not with offers the team found attractive. The money ran out. They still didn’t have a deal. Then they saw Steam, which back then Valve were just using to sell their own games. John contacted Doug Lombardi (Valve’s marketing director) and it turned out that he knew about Red Orchestra and wanted to talk about giving them a very good deal. That was the turning point.



Now they just had to finish the game, turning it from a mod into the standalone Red Orchestra: Ostfront 41-45. With a route to the gamer at last, the team scraped together as much money as they could. Alan mortgaged his house, others maxed out credit cards or borrowed money. “We put together a small but terrifying amount of money,” says Alan. It took another six months to finish the game. They offered the external contractors a deal where they would pay them a 50% bonus if they took their money after the game shipped – another big gamble. Meanwhile, the art team all lived in one apartment, sleeping on mattresses in the living room. “It was a crazy time, huge amounts of fun, even if I had to live off my savings,” says artist David Hensley.

Mission successful

In March 2006, five years after work on the mod started, Ostfront was finally released, in the shops and as the third game on Steam, selling over 400,000 copies. What kept it selling in the months that followed was the amount of free features the team developed. “We doubled the content after shipping,” says David.

“A lot of people think of digital distribution like a Walmart shelf,” Alan explains, “but you’ve got the opportunity to keep upgrading things. The sales the updates generated gave us the cash to keep going.”

(http://media.pcgamer.com/files/2011/05/RO2_PR_Screenshot_GrainElevator_GerStackup_B-590x331.jpg)
{The team have already released dev tools to various modding teams.}

This, and the money they made from publishing the hugely successful Killing Floor, allowed Tripwire to start the project they always wanted to make: a full, properly-funded version of Red Orchestra. RO 2: Heroes of Stalingrad is going into beta very soon, and Tripwire, always conscious of their community, have already seeded the dev tools with various modding teams, so they’ll have time to generate the high polygon models necessary for modern games. “We’d like to see the first big mods out a few months after the game, not two years later,” says Alan. “At the current rate, we’ll have Rising Storm (Japanese vs Americans in the Pacific), a Vietnam conflict game, plus there are a bunch of others as diverse as World War I and the Warhammer universe.”

It still might not have anything to do with spies, subterfuge or radios, but Tripwire’s Red Orchestra series has blazed a trail for both modders and the modern indie Steam developers. Along with Valve, they ferreted out the secrets of self-publishing from under the noses of the big publishers and made the world a better place for everyone who loves PC games. They’ve already shown that quality and enthusiasm count; we’re intrigued to see where they go next.

http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/05/14/the-history-of-red-orchestra/
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: SiCaRiO on 14-05-2011, 19:05:59
Good read!

damn, 30 k to make a game like that! thats hard D:
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Ajs47951 on 14-05-2011, 19:05:37
thanks for the move I meant to make it a post. sorry about that
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Bang0o on 14-05-2011, 20:05:03
cant wait for gibbson to get online on steam, so we can talk a bit :P
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: RAnDOOm on 21-06-2011, 19:06:08
(http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/2165/ro2releasedate.jpg)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Kradovech on 21-06-2011, 20:06:17
Oh boy!

Take my money! Take it all!

Did I say oh boy? Oh boy!
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Oberst on 21-06-2011, 20:06:28
Just an easy question, will it only available via Steam? Or will there be a retail version?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: SiCaRiO on 21-06-2011, 20:06:54
both
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: G.Drew on 21-06-2011, 20:06:27
Both. Im probably going to wait to see the price for the retail version since Steam could easily be charging £40 for this.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 21-06-2011, 21:06:29
Yes, yes, yes,awesome! *insta-jizz*
I´ll definately pre-order it, most likely via Amazon.UK and can´t wait for it to arrive! :D
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Alakazou on 21-06-2011, 23:06:24
I'll preorder it on steam for sure. I'll probably play it more than I play the 1st one, but FH2 would remain my ww2 favorite game at any cost.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Fuchs on 21-06-2011, 23:06:21
I have great trust in this game.

So does my friend, who usually likes casual sit back and rape shooters. He saw the Battlefield 3 MP video and was like 'fuck it's BC2 all over again..' some time later he said he would buy RO2 instead of BF3 and he is not a realism fanboy. RO2 Power!
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Hockeywarrior on 22-06-2011, 03:06:54
Huzzah my most anticipated game of EVER approaches!
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: SiCaRiO on 22-06-2011, 03:06:45
yay!! finaly a game I know it wouldnt dissapoint me =D
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: VonMudra on 22-06-2011, 03:06:56
yay!! finaly a game I know it wouldnt dissapoint me =D

Already has disappointed me...no scope on lafette.  :'(

Oh, and Mkb42.....   >:(
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hankypanky on 22-06-2011, 07:06:34
yay!! finaly a game I know it wouldnt dissapoint me =D

Already has disappointed me...no scope on lafette.  :'(

Oh, and Mkb42.....   >:(
 
Community mods and addons for the win?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: VonMudra on 22-06-2011, 08:06:06
yay!! finaly a game I know it wouldnt dissapoint me =D

Already has disappointed me...no scope on lafette.  :'(

Oh, and Mkb42.....   >:(
 
Community mods and addons for the win?

On the Mkb42, more the fact that is actually IN the game |:
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Yustax on 22-06-2011, 08:06:58
On the Mkb42, more the fact that is actually IN the game |:

Im also displeased that they included that weapon too. Besides that it was ultra duper super weird, just a few of them ever reached german hands on stalingrad.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Sander93 on 22-06-2011, 10:06:37
Will there be a demo?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: stoica on 22-06-2011, 10:06:26
did they announce the price? amazon says 40bucks
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Fuchs on 22-06-2011, 10:06:27
Look on the RO2 Steam community page. August 30 release date and standard price is $40.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Natty on 22-06-2011, 12:06:51
Will there be a demo?
This is what Im also wondering... dont wanna buy any more pigs in the bag (swedish expression for buying something without first seeing it) games.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Bang0o on 22-06-2011, 12:06:53
gonna ask the ceo of tripwire about the demo, as soon as he gets online in steam :P
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: SiCaRiO on 22-06-2011, 12:06:51
Will there be a demo?
This is what Im also wondering... dont wanna buy any more pigs in the bag (swedish expression for buying something without first seeing it) games.

funny thing! DICE espect us to do that xD.

@Mudra, IIRC the mkb42 is gonna be a very rare weapon, most likely you wouldnt see it in most maps. but im also wondering why they didnt add the scope in the mg tripod :/
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Paavopesusieni on 22-06-2011, 13:06:04
Will there be a demo?
This is what Im also wondering... dont wanna buy any more pigs in the bag (swedish expression for buying something without first seeing it) games.
Swedish expression? "Pig in a poke" in English for example, not a Swedish expression :P

Would like to see demo for sure, this game has so many new gameplay elements for FPS that it's not too safe to just buy it.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: MaJ.P.Bouras on 22-06-2011, 14:06:57
"pig in a sack" here in Greece so that is not just from Sweden :D


I've been playing the first red orchestra and i must say it is fun most of the times. Some other times though i hate being executed in one shot even after having the advantage...Lets see if this is a better game...
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Lightning on 22-06-2011, 14:06:29
Hehe, in The Netherlands we buy a cat in a bag. * (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pig_in_a_poke)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: TheRevoluzer on 22-06-2011, 14:06:51
We don't "buy the cat in the sack" here in Austria...

EDIT, you were faster...
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: NTH on 22-06-2011, 15:06:07
Cat in the sack is after the transaction has been done.
Natty are you sure "pig in the sack" that it means buying something before seeing it? Take your time here, this is important ...ZZzzZzzz ...
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Rawhide on 22-06-2011, 15:06:41
I recently rediscovered RO and Darkest Hour actually and I gotta say, the game is still solid.

Still, frustrating at times (laying down and crawling and then getting back to be able to shoot something is way too slow).

But still awesome game.

And I love the achievements!

Just got my first 200m Kill Achievement on Leningrad from the searchlight building.

Now going for "Hero of the Soviet Union" capping all objectives without dying :D
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 22-06-2011, 16:06:58
Fortunately RO:HOS will be less clumsy and more fluid with things like "prone sprinting", MGs are easier to set up, a nice cover system etc. Especially the first feature will make infantry combat much more intuitive and way more fluid because you don´t have to press several buttons to quickly move away from your position.
Oh, and I´m really looking forward to their tank combat! Can´t wait to see the detailed damage system in action.

Btw, here´s (http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=48698) a nice thread that sums up all confirmed features.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: mopskind on 22-06-2011, 16:06:17
Oo

"nvironmental Temperatures: Maps can have set temperatures, which influence the rate at which the MG barrel heats up. This also influences the muzzle velocity of tank rounds. (Source: Wilsonam)"
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Yustax on 22-06-2011, 17:06:47
Maybe we can mod the game and add scopes to lafette tripods.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Kradovech on 22-06-2011, 18:06:02
IMO the missing scopes or rare weapons  being used is of secondary importance. What I want from this game is realistically portrayed machinegunes, submachineguns and rifles, that allow fire and manouvre tactics to be used effectively, a shooter that is more about tactics than it is about individual skill with a firearm. If any game is going to deliver on this front, its RO
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: flyboy_fx on 23-06-2011, 00:06:13
yay!! finaly a game I know it wouldnt dissapoint me =D

Already has disappointed me...no scope on lafette.  :'(

Oh, and Mkb42.....   >:(

I see no MKB42.. where?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Pascucci the Whiner on 23-06-2011, 00:06:55
yay!! finaly a game I know it wouldnt dissapoint me =D

Already has disappointed me...no scope on lafette.  :'(

Oh, and Mkb42.....   >:(

I see no MKB42.. where?

Quote
On that note, can you name specific weapons, or at least the types of weapons, we can expect to see?

AW- Some of it is obvious – Kar 98, MP40, MG34, P38, G41 for the Germans, Mosin-Nagant, PPSh, DP28, TT33 for the Soviets. Add in a few extras such as the C96, Nagant revolver and a few for people to argue over – the AVT-40 (full auto version of the SVT – complete brute) and the MkB42(H) prototype, for instance. PTRS anti-tank rifle, stock of grenades, MG34 on the Lafette tripod, Maxim heavy MG.


It's depressing to see the Tripwire devs sink to this. The heroes system also sound really bad, because everyone will be a hero in a week.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: flyboy_fx on 23-06-2011, 01:06:16
I like the fact rare things are included. But god damnit wheres my scoped Lafette!!!  :o
THe hero system is odd though. It should just be plain ole fightin like FH2...
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: VonMudra on 23-06-2011, 02:06:06
I like the fact rare things are included. But god damnit wheres my scoped Lafette!!!  :o
THe hero system is odd though. It should just be plain ole fightin like FH2...

If they want rare things, there were more KP-31 Soumi's serving with the Croatian regiment at Stalingrad than there were Mkb42's in the entire battle.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Pascucci the Whiner on 23-06-2011, 02:06:16
I like the fact rare things are included. But god damnit wheres my scoped Lafette!!!  :o
THe hero system is odd though. It should just be plain ole fightin like FH2...

If they want rare things, there were more KP-31 Soumi's serving with the Croatian regiment at Stalingrad than there were Mkb42's in the entire battle.

That's true, I need to find pictures :D.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 23-06-2011, 07:06:54
Especially rare if they were called Soumi's.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: :| Hi on 23-06-2011, 07:06:51
I was waiting for Flip to crack down on that  ;D
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: 9.Pz Benz on 23-06-2011, 10:06:43
At least Tripwire builds a PC game and thank god no consule port like we see so many of today. Also they support modding and they still listen to their community and not to money only. Like i said before, stick to Dice games and there will be no more modding in future.

Btw, whats all the whining about tripods and early STG about ? The early STG will probebly rarely availible in RO2, and for the tripod it is better than 1 tripod without scope on the ground in RO2 than 10 floating in the air in FH2 :)

Also why talking about a tripod and base the information on old screenshots ? Who knows what the tripod will look like in RO2 on release ?

The way i see it Tripwire does a good job and im really looking forward to this game, even today while playing RO1 and Darkest Hour it still is a awsome game. Combine this with the new futures and squad system, minimap etc i see a solid base for PC gaming and modding future.

Almost forgot: Being a hero in RO2 doesnt make you Iron man, and probebly nobody will be a hero within a week. Its not like that within a week only super heroes run around, but if you should look into the availible material you already should know that. But as usual on this forum people start trolling and dont know what there talking about. No offence to serious people but there are a lot of trolls here.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: SiCaRiO on 23-06-2011, 15:06:34
well said, tripware is a beacon of light in this world of sellout developers and console ports/dumbed down, cut to sell DLCs games.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Pascucci the Whiner on 23-06-2011, 17:06:48
It will be possible to have a server without the hero system won't it? I'm sure most realism communities won't tolerate the feature, so I believe there is still hope that I can just ignore it and avoid the mainstream servers. The tanking system is the best I've ever seen and I really hope this game turns out to be good.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Fuchs on 23-06-2011, 17:06:18
It will be possible to have a server without the hero system won't it? I'm sure most realism communities won't tolerate the feature, so I believe there is still hope that I can just ignore it and avoid the mainstream servers. The tanking system is the best I've ever seen and I really hope this game turns out to be good.
As far as I know all it does is changing your looks, ingame rank and morale bonus on nearby troops. It doesn't make you a superhuman.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: 9.Pz Benz on 23-06-2011, 17:06:31
It will be possible to have a server without the hero system won't it? I'm sure most realism communities won't tolerate the feature, so I believe there is still hope that I can just ignore it and avoid the mainstream servers. The tanking system is the best I've ever seen and I really hope this game turns out to be good.
As far as I know all it does is changing your looks, ingame rank and morale bonus on nearby troops. It doesn't make you a superhuman.

Thx for clearing up Fuchs, it is probebly hard to understand that the Hero system wont make you Superman. And why shouldnt it be realistic ? As time goes by on the front you gather more experience, thats what this Hero system is about.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Pascucci the Whiner on 23-06-2011, 18:06:42
They also have access to the so called "rarer" weapons, I'm guessing this means AVT-40's and STG-44's. I also recall from watching a video that their capping speed also improves.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Bang0o on 23-06-2011, 18:06:43
accroding to ramm-jäger there is no demo planned, but probably a "free-play-weekend"
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: 9.Pz Benz on 23-06-2011, 18:06:39
They also have access to the so called "rarer" weapons, I'm guessing this means AVT-40's and STG-44's. I also recall from watching a video that their capping speed also improves.

Soldiers are inspired by experienced soldiers and thus cap faster, also they are more effective around experienced soldiers. Seems pretty natural to me. Also if the Germans or Russian want to test new weapons in combat why not give it to experience soldiers who can give usefull feedback about it. I really dont see what the drawn back is in this matter. On the other hand if you dont like it i dont mind, nobody forces you to play it :)

Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Pascucci the Whiner on 23-06-2011, 18:06:29
They also have access to the so called "rarer" weapons, I'm guessing this means AVT-40's and STG-44's. I also recall from watching a video that their capping speed also improves.

Soldiers are inspired by experienced soldiers and thus cap faster, also they are more effective around experienced soldiers. Seems pretty natural to me. Also if the Germans or Russian want to test new weapons in combat why not give it to experience soldiers who can give usefull feedback about it. I really dont see what the drawn back is in this matter. On the other hand if you dont like it i dont mind, nobody forces you to play it :)



Experience had nothing to do with who got new weapons. I hate to say this, but Mudra, please help :|.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: VonMudra on 23-06-2011, 18:06:52
The AVT was only produced in 1943, rather late for stalingrad scenarios, unless they have 1943 Kessel maps, but even that is a stretch.  The Mkb42 only had 5 or so in the entirety of stalingrad.  There were almost 1000 Suomi's used in Stalingrad by the 369th Reinforced Regiment, which, also, is the same regiment were we get almost all history of what happened inside Stalingrad after the Kessel formed:

Quote
On the 23rd of January 1943, 18 wounded Croatians were flown out of Stalingrad. They were the last Croatians to leave Stalingalive. Amongst these lucky souls was Croatian Sergeant Juric, who wrote and carried with him to safety the Kriegstagbuch (unit war diary) of the 369th Reinforced Regiment, thereby saving for posterity the ultimate memorial to these brave men. The only entry in the diary after January 23rd 1943 is "February 2, 1943, Stalingrad has fallen".
.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: 9.Pz Benz on 23-06-2011, 19:06:35
"A production run of these modified versions was sent to the field in November 1942, and the users appreciated it with a few reservations. Another set of modifications added a hinged cover over the ejection port to keep it clean in combat, and rails to mount a telescopic sight. A run of these modified MKb 42(H)s in late 1942 and early 1943 produced 11,833 guns for field trials"

But only 5 or so were in Stalingrad ? But who knows, nobody from us was there at that time  ;)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Ts4EVER on 23-06-2011, 19:06:00
There is an exhaustive thread in the ro forum in which it is proven that there were no MKB42s at all in Stalingrad. The first production batch from 42 was not send t the front but tested in Germany. The first front trials began in the spring of 1943 (April I think).
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: VonMudra on 23-06-2011, 19:06:54
"A production run of these modified versions was sent to the field in November 1942, and the users appreciated it with a few reservations. Another set of modifications added a hinged cover over the ejection port to keep it clean in combat, and rails to mount a telescopic sight. A run of these modified MKb 42(H)s in late 1942 and early 1943 produced 11,833 guns for field trials"

But only 5 or so were in Stalingrad ? But who knows, nobody from us was there at that time  ;)

Field testing is not combat testing.

And if there indeed was a thread on this, then I am mistaken on the 5 or so, was working from outdated data then.  It was, therefore, 0.

Compared once again with around 1000 SUOMIS serving with the Croats.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Ciupita on 23-06-2011, 19:06:30
I demand suomis!
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: 9.Pz Benz on 23-06-2011, 20:06:46
Some say it was, others say it wasnt at Stalingrad. All we know the weapon exist at that time. It will at least not spoil the fun for me. Really looking forward to this game, it also has a good community and some nice mods on the way  ;)

Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: flyboy_fx on 23-06-2011, 21:06:25
SOMEDAY! FH2 will mod RO2 and include all the Sumo's you want.  LOL

Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: K.Cower on 23-06-2011, 22:06:06
At least it comes earlier than 2.4
definitely buy this game.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: SiCaRiO on 24-06-2011, 03:06:57
"A production run of these modified versions was sent to the field in November 1942, and the users appreciated it with a few reservations. Another set of modifications added a hinged cover over the ejection port to keep it clean in combat, and rails to mount a telescopic sight. A run of these modified MKb 42(H)s in late 1942 and early 1943 produced 11,833 guns for field trials"

But only 5 or so were in Stalingrad ? But who knows, nobody from us was there at that time  ;)

Field testing is not combat testing.

And if there indeed was a thread on this, then I am mistaken on the 5 or so, was working from outdated data then.  It was, therefore, 0.

Compared once again with around 1000 SUOMIS serving with the Croats.

you should post that on their forums, afaik the devs alway read those type of things, especialy if they come with proven sources :P
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: VonMudra on 24-06-2011, 03:06:57
"A production run of these modified versions was sent to the field in November 1942, and the users appreciated it with a few reservations. Another set of modifications added a hinged cover over the ejection port to keep it clean in combat, and rails to mount a telescopic sight. A run of these modified MKb 42(H)s in late 1942 and early 1943 produced 11,833 guns for field trials"

But only 5 or so were in Stalingrad ? But who knows, nobody from us was there at that time  ;)

Field testing is not combat testing.

And if there indeed was a thread on this, then I am mistaken on the 5 or so, was working from outdated data then.  It was, therefore, 0.

Compared once again with around 1000 SUOMIS serving with the Croats.

you should post that on their forums, afaik the devs alway read those type of things, especialy if they come with proven sources :P

I doubt they'd want to do the work on making Croatian voices.  Plus its still very rare...whereas EVERY lafette was issued with a scope |:
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: flyboy_fx on 24-06-2011, 03:06:44
Do you and look at pictures of unfolded Lafettes at night while jerking off?  LOL
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: 9.Pz Benz on 24-06-2011, 13:06:10
Do you and look at pictures of unfolded Lafettes at night while jerking off?  LOL

Hmm, that lafette thing is going out of control. I consider making a thread on the RO2 forums to ask for putting a scope on that damn thing just to get Mudra of my back  ;)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: SiCaRiO on 24-06-2011, 14:06:10
do eet! i wanted to ask that question but they dont let me register with a hotmail account ><
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Pascucci the Whiner on 24-06-2011, 15:06:08
Do you and look at pictures of unfolded Lafettes at night while jerking off?  LOL

Yes, yes he does :D!
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Sander93 on 24-06-2011, 17:06:10
Plus its still very rare...whereas EVERY lafette was issued with a scope |:

I doubt that reality-based developers ignore such a fact just for fun. It's probably for gameplay reasons, i.e. maybe they want the MG42 lafette's for suppressing fire only and not as a full auto sniper (like it is in FH2).
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: VonMudra on 24-06-2011, 17:06:53
Plus its still very rare...whereas EVERY lafette was issued with a scope |:

I doubt that reality-based developers ignore such a fact just for fun. It's probably for gameplay reasons, i.e. maybe they want the MG42 lafette's for suppressing fire only and not as a full auto sniper (like it is in FH2).

Thats like saying that they left the sights off the maxim for same reason.  Its military fact.  Plus do you know how damn near impossible it is to aim without those sights?  I do...because you arent anchored to the butt of the gun, you cant gie accurate fire, since you're constantly repoisitioning your head and body everytime you move the mount in the slightest. :|
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: SiCaRiO on 26-06-2011, 14:06:14
so i finally registed and my first post is this

http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?p=757158#post757158

feel free to contribute if you like, my knowledge on the lafette is limited to the posts i read from mudra xD
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Kradovech on 26-06-2011, 15:06:50
How did you get past your hotmail issue?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: SiCaRiO on 26-06-2011, 15:06:22
used gmail :P
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: A-tree on 30-06-2011, 19:06:29
Let the rage commence!
(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/A-tree/3.jpg)
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/06/30/the-shell-game-new-red-orchestra-2-shots/
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: VonMudra on 30-06-2011, 20:06:06
Let the rage commence!
(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/A-tree/3.jpg)
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/06/30/the-shell-game-new-red-orchestra-2-shots/

A K98 bayonet, parka suit that wasn't in existence yet, and an iron cross hanging from a ribbon pinned to the parka.


|:  What the fuck.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: McCloskey on 30-06-2011, 20:06:27
given my low amount of information about stuff like this, someone here is seriously damaging my future experience with RO2, lawl ;D
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: RAnDOOm on 30-06-2011, 20:06:03
Rage ?

Quite the opposite.

Im very glad with these screenshots.   :)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 30-06-2011, 20:06:01
Except for that tacticool German Veteran, I´m quite happy with the screenshots, too. I especially like those Russian winter uniforms!
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: flyboy_fx on 30-06-2011, 20:06:46
Let the rage commence!
(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/A-tree/3.jp)
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/06/30/the-shell-game-new-red-orchestra-2-shots/

A K98 bayonet, parka suit that wasn't in existence yet, and an iron cross hanging from a ribbon pinned to the parka.


|:  What the fuck.
I agree, WHAT DA FUCK!  :o
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: flyboy_fx on 30-06-2011, 20:06:40
Look at the Mp40. It's the one with the dual mags. I've seen them before but I doubt they where common. Oy, I just getting it for the Pacific mod and hope that we will see a FH3.  8)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Tuco on 30-06-2011, 20:06:17
Let the rage commence!
(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/A-tree/3.jpg)
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/06/30/the-shell-game-new-red-orchestra-2-shots/

(http://i804.photobucket.com/albums/yy324/7Insomniac/Gifs/35btpc6.gif)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Bang0o on 30-06-2011, 21:06:25
i like how he looks. badass. just how i wanna look. great game, i cant wait for it.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Fuchs on 30-06-2011, 22:06:47
Badass from the future, aye.

Anyways, I told my friend about this. Apparently Tripwire answers all e-mails. So Mudra, pack your rage in text, send, await reply.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: flyboy_fx on 30-06-2011, 22:06:45
Look at the Mp40. It's the one with the dual mags. I've seen them before but I doubt they where common. Oy, I just getting it for the Pacific mod and hope that we will see a FH3.  8)


OOps, heres the picture!

(http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/images/11/june/stalingrad/1.jpg)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: RAnDOOm on 30-06-2011, 22:06:55
It has been answered already by the Tripwire devs.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: flyboy_fx on 01-07-2011, 00:07:24
It has been answered already by the Tripwire devs.
What has?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: evhgear on 01-07-2011, 03:07:39
MP44 in Stalingrad ??  maybe a Mkb42 ??
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: G.Drew on 01-07-2011, 03:07:23
MP44 in Stalingrad ??  maybe a Mkb42 ??
Indeed. But:
The AVT was only produced in 1943, rather late for stalingrad scenarios, unless they have 1943 Kessel maps, but even that is a stretch.  The Mkb42 only had 5 or so in the entirety of stalingrad.  There were almost 1000 Suomi's used in Stalingrad by the 369th Reinforced Regiment, which, also, is the same regiment were we get almost all history of what happened inside Stalingrad after the Kessel formed:

Quote
On the 23rd of January 1943, 18 wounded Croatians were flown out of Stalingrad. They were the last Croatians to leave Stalingalive. Amongst these lucky souls was Croatian Sergeant Juric, who wrote and carried with him to safety the Kriegstagbuch (unit war diary) of the 369th Reinforced Regiment, thereby saving for posterity the ultimate memorial to these brave men. The only entry in the diary after January 23rd 1943 is "February 2, 1943, Stalingrad has fallen".
.

There is an exhaustive thread in the ro forum in which it is proven that there were no MKB42s at all in Stalingrad. The first production batch from 42 was not send t the front but tested in Germany. The first front trials began in the spring of 1943 (April I think).
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: flyboy_fx on 01-07-2011, 04:07:45
Will the Rising storm mod be free?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: G.Drew on 01-07-2011, 04:07:00
Very likely. Cant see many people buying it if it isnt.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: K.Cower on 01-07-2011, 07:07:29
Tripwire making a Game, not war museum. And...I don't care about those Mp-44 or mkb42 in Stalingrad, I'll buy RO2 anyway.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: flyboy_fx on 01-07-2011, 07:07:11
Tripwire making a Game, not war museum. And...I don't care about those Mp-44 or mkb42 in Stalingrad, I'll buy RO2 anyway.


Yea, me too. LOL
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: DLFReporter on 01-07-2011, 08:07:00
I'm so buying it as well. :) ;D
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Alakazou on 01-07-2011, 09:07:27
I'll buy it too, because if I want a historically game I'll play Fh2 :)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 01-07-2011, 10:07:21
From what the Devs posted, weapons such as the Mkb-42 and MP-40 with double-magazine will be extremely rare, so that you wont see 3rd Reich Elite Troopers, armed with pimped guns. And server admins can use mutators to disable the use of these "unhistorical" weapons, making sure that historical accuracy is guaranteed.
Combined with great gameplay mechanics, improvements and nice graphics RO:HOS is definately a must-buy and I´ll preorder it as soon as possible! :D
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: K.Cower on 01-07-2011, 11:07:11
From what the Devs posted, weapons such as the Mkb-42 and MP-40 with double-magazine will be extremely rare, so that you wont see 3rd Reich Elite Troopers, armed with pimped guns. And server admins can use mutators to disable the use of these "unhistorical" weapons, making sure that historical accuracy is guaranteed.
Combined with great gameplay mechanics, improvements and nice graphics RO:HOS is definately a must-buy and I´ll preorder it as soon as possible! :D

+1. Yeah, indeed. And there're not so many really good projects (in WW2 universe) for PC.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Ts4EVER on 01-07-2011, 11:07:32
Look at it like the StG44 ZF or Shotguns in Fh2. Very rare and just for the lulz anyway.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: SiCaRiO on 01-07-2011, 15:07:51
about the iron cross:

(http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/2496/sinttulo1kpe.jpg)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: VonMudra on 01-07-2011, 17:07:46
about the iron cross:

(http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/2496/sinttulo1kpe.jpg)

What iron cross?  All I see there is a knights cross |:
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: SiCaRiO on 01-07-2011, 19:07:31
whats the diference?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: VonMudra on 01-07-2011, 20:07:58
whats the diference?

Knights Cross is worn around the neck, and so here that's what he has, with the hanger set up through the button hole of his shirt.  It's also the equivlent of the medal of honour.  The Iron Cross 2nd class meanwhile is worn through the 2nd button hole of the tunic, is the lowest rung of the bravery medals (essentially equal to the US Bronze Star), and was only worn on the breast on the dress uniform, and then with an elaborate ribbon bar design, not just hanging straight down.  During awards ceremonies, when you got it, it would either just be handed to you in a paper bag, or if it was a more formal ceremony, the ribbon would be pinned through the button hole with the actual cross hanging off it.  You wore it like that for the day, then removed the medal and sewd the ribbon into the button hole, with the medal usually sent home for safe keeping and turning into a ribbon bar for full dress.  Examples thusly:

(http://www.ww2incolor.com/d/42464-6/ek1ek2)

This guy has just been awarded the EKII and EKI in the same day.

(http://www.axishistory.com/fileadmin/user_upload/p/parademedalbar-3_1.jpg)

Ribbon bar for full dress/parade dress

(http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/images/righitgeitner.jpg)

Normal wear, with just the ribbon, through button hole of tunic.  Fun fact on this photo, that guy is a Mischlinge, or half-jewish soldier.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Thorondor123 on 02-07-2011, 11:07:46
Fun fact number two: A number of Finnish Jewish soldiers were awarded with EK's, but all of the said basically "Piss off, I'm a Jew".
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: MaJ.P.Bouras on 02-07-2011, 12:07:11
Fun fact number two: A number of Finnish Jewish soldiers were awarded with EK's, but all of the said basically "Piss off, I'm a Jew".

Which then allowed them to be moved into inland Germany , to those "nice camps" outdoors?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Seth_Soldier on 02-07-2011, 12:07:01
Fun fact number three: it generally took an average 3 months to deliver a medal to a soldier in the wehrmacht. In the waffen-ss, 3 hours :P (they also have awarded non fighting unit  :P)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Thorondor123 on 02-07-2011, 15:07:58
Fun fact number two: A number of Finnish Jewish soldiers were awarded with EK's, but all of the said basically "Piss off, I'm a Jew".

Which then allowed them to be moved into inland Germany , to those "nice camps" outdoors?
No, the Jewish soldiers and officers continued to serve in the army since the nazis could do bugger all about it. The German soldiers had no problems with it, and I have even heard stories of Finnish Jewish officers commanding a unit with German soldiers in it. :p
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: VonMudra on 02-07-2011, 18:07:40
Fun fact number two: A number of Finnish Jewish soldiers were awarded with EK's, but all of the said basically "Piss off, I'm a Jew".

Which then allowed them to be moved into inland Germany , to those "nice camps" outdoors?
No, the Jewish soldiers and officers continued to serve in the army since the nazis could do bugger all about it. The German soldiers had no problems with it, and I have even heard stories of Finnish Jewish officers commanding a unit with German soldiers in it. :p

Not just that, but 150,000 jew's and half-jews/quarter-jews (the so called Mischlinge, who were considered to be full Jew by the Nazi racial laws) served in the Wehrmacht and even Waffen-SS:

http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu/righit.html

This is actually a REALLY good book, as he interviews many Mischlinge and full Jews who served, including one who found himself in 6th SS Nord fighting in Finland and later Alsace.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 06-07-2011, 12:07:11
New stuff from Prague:
Gallery of pcgames.de:
http://www.pcgames.de/Red-Orchestra-2-Heroes-of-Stalingrad-PC-231569/News/Red-Orchestra-2-Heroes-of-Stalingrad-im-Hands-on-Test-Realismus-pur-nichts-fuer-Call-of-Duty-Fans-832695/galerie/1429413/#?a_id=832695&g_id=-1&i_id=1429416 (http://www.pcgames.de/Red-Orchestra-2-Heroes-of-Stalingrad-PC-231569/News/Red-Orchestra-2-Heroes-of-Stalingrad-im-Hands-on-Test-Realismus-pur-nichts-fuer-Call-of-Duty-Fans-832695/galerie/1429413/#?a_id=832695&g_id=-1&i_id=1429416)

Gamecorner.pl, ingame video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gFo13wy_b_4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gFo13wy_b_4)

Eurogamer.net article:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-07-05-red-orchestra-2-heroes-of-stalingrad-preview (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-07-05-red-orchestra-2-heroes-of-stalingrad-preview)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Sander93 on 06-07-2011, 15:07:33
(http://www.pcgames.de/screenshots/970x546/2010/09/heroes_of_stalingrad_4.jpg)

Oh look a retarded monkey (bottom right). No seriously, I really hope they will fix the German animation for sprinting because it looks ridiculous.  :P
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: G.Drew on 06-07-2011, 16:07:43
Gamecorner.pl, ingame video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gFo13wy_b_4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gFo13wy_b_4)

@3.57

Is that a revolver with a silencer!? ಠ_ಠ
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Zeno on 06-07-2011, 16:07:21
Gamecorner.pl, ingame video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gFo13wy_b_4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gFo13wy_b_4)

@3.57

Is that a revolver with a silencer!? ಠ_ಠ

indeed it is ;D

the same one as in MoW ;)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Lightning on 06-07-2011, 16:07:06
Gamecorner.pl, ingame video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gFo13wy_b_4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gFo13wy_b_4)
Eh, what? That's Danzig. It's like 100% the same.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Thorondor123 on 06-07-2011, 16:07:01
The Nagant 1895 had a working suppressor. So I don't mind seeing few Russian scouts equipped with it.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: G.Drew on 06-07-2011, 17:07:40
The Nagant 1895 had a working suppressor. So I don't mind seeing few Russian scouts equipped with it.
If its historically accurate, I can live with that. I thought I was looking at a lulzy CoD-esqe upgrade.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Ts4EVER on 06-07-2011, 18:07:00
I heard these suppressors were issued to russian scouts. Might actually be a nice pickup kit sidearm for Fh2. Like the stocked Browning in the commando kit. Although knowing our mappers they will overdo it and put them everywhere like stg44 zfs or k98k zf41s...
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Thorondor123 on 06-07-2011, 18:07:59
Although knowing our mappers they will overdo it and put them everywhere like stg44 zfs or k98k zf41s...
Funny then how ZF39 is way more common in FH2 even thought ZF41 was more common IRL :P
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 06-07-2011, 18:07:17
I heard these suppressors were issued to russian scouts. Might actually be a nice pickup kit sidearm for Fh2.

Shexy. Yes please.

Quote
Although knowing our mappers they will overdo it and put them everywhere like stg44 zfs or k98k zf41s...

God damn it.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Ts4EVER on 06-07-2011, 18:07:19
Although knowing our mappers they will overdo it and put them everywhere like stg44 zfs or k98k zf41s...
Funny then how ZF39 is way more common in FH2 even thought ZF41 was more common IRL :P

Used to be, anyway. Well I better shut up now.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: VonMudra on 06-07-2011, 18:07:56
Although knowing our mappers they will overdo it and put them everywhere like stg44 zfs or k98k zf41s...
Funny then how ZF39 is way more common in FH2 even thought ZF41 was more common IRL :P

NOt really actually...it was not liked by snipers, and most tossed them.  Just because it was produced more, doesn't mean it was used more.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Smiles on 06-07-2011, 23:07:52
To more screens i see, the more dissapointed i get in the graphics. Darnit!
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LuckyOne on 07-07-2011, 12:07:20
To more screens i see, the more dissapointed i get in the graphics. Darnit!

They look pretty okay to me... Besides it's the gameplay that counts...
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Smiles on 07-07-2011, 13:07:15
I know i know, but with my new set up im a bit spoiled
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: DLFReporter on 07-07-2011, 14:07:18
The mechanics which they promised sound really great. I am more hyped about this release than about BF3.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: RAnDOOm on 07-07-2011, 15:07:54
To more screens i see, the more dissapointed i get in the graphics. Darnit!

Say what ?

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/images/11/june/stalingrad/9.jpg

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/images/11/june/stalingrad/2.jpg

Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Smiles on 07-07-2011, 18:07:32
Tough those scree arts look very different than ingame trailers\pics
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 07-07-2011, 18:07:53
What in-game media have we seen so far?
A beta gameplay video, recorded by a shaky camcorder early this year and another shaky gameplay video, also recorded by a camcorder, recorded a few weeks ago in Prague.
According to the TWI Devs with proper hardware what you can see on those screenshots will be in-game graphics and to me it doesn´t look that bad, at all.
A good game needs more than fancy graphics, so that´s the last thing I´d worry about.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LHeureux on 07-07-2011, 19:07:44
Gamecorner.pl, ingame video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gFo13wy_b_4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gFo13wy_b_4)
Eh, what? That's Danzig. It's like 100% the same.
Yes, because the map was so popular (and loved ::)) they decided to make a remake of it. It's not 100% Danzig but it's the base. I would say 80% Danzig.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: RAnDOOm on 07-07-2011, 20:07:43
Tough those scree arts look very different than ingame trailers\pics

Those are in-game screenshots.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: SiCaRiO on 09-07-2011, 03:07:29
intervide in Prague about the game:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe1X4Po7seg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt4NO0vmdMk


new ingame footage, to note, a mg with a double drum box :P
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: 9.Pz Benz on 09-07-2011, 12:07:18
(http://www.pcgames.de/screenshots/970x546/2010/09/heroes_of_stalingrad_4.jpg)

Oh look a retarded monkey (bottom right). No seriously, I really hope they will fix the German animation for sprinting because it looks ridiculous.  :P

Hmm, dunno but looks like this:

(http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/4654/35676163106f79d9ce28z.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/121/35676163106f79d9ce28z.jpg/)

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Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Leopardi on 09-07-2011, 12:07:03
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/german-walkthrough-red-orchestra/717228
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/multiplayer-gameplay-red-orchestra/717224
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/soviet-gameplay-red-orchestra/717226
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/soviet-walkthrough-red-orchestra/717230

you can get a nice glimpse of the awesome new audio too.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 09-07-2011, 13:07:15
Russians speaking accented english?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 09-07-2011, 13:07:10
The enemy team speaks its native language, while your own team speaks English with a matching accent, so you know what they´re talking about. But AFAIK that´s just an option, you can still enable authentic voice commands.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Sander93 on 09-07-2011, 13:07:13
(http://www.pcgames.de/screenshots/970x546/2010/09/heroes_of_stalingrad_4.jpg)

Oh look a retarded monkey (bottom right). No seriously, I really hope they will fix the German animation for sprinting because it looks ridiculous.  :P

Hmm, dunno but looks like this:

(http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/4654/35676163106f79d9ce28z.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/121/35676163106f79d9ce28z.jpg/)

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Try raising your arm that high behind your back.  :P
What I meant is that the animations itself are correct but they look weird because of unnatural movement during the sprinting.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Musti on 09-07-2011, 13:07:36
Aiming system reminds me of first Medal Of Honor.
but who knows? Maybe it'll work.Hope there will be option to change it though.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Ciupita on 09-07-2011, 13:07:18
Aiming system reminds me of first Medal Of Honor.
but who knows? Maybe it'll work.Hope there will be option to change it though.

Aiming system is like in HL2 mod Resistance and Liberation.. It's one of the nicest I've used.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Kradovech on 09-07-2011, 14:07:11
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/german-walkthrough-red-orchestra/717228
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/multiplayer-gameplay-red-orchestra/717224
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/soviet-gameplay-red-orchestra/717226
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/soviet-walkthrough-red-orchestra/717230

you can get a nice glimpse of the awesome new audio too.
AI is quite terrible to be honest. Then again, who's getting this for the single player anyway? :P

Gameplay however seems fantastic. Can't wait.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LHeureux on 10-07-2011, 10:07:06
Fuck cams recorded video :(
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Smiles on 11-07-2011, 03:07:46
If you break the glass you can.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Leopardi on 11-07-2011, 04:07:34
They really are putting effort on the sounds... hiring The Pacific sound engineer and all  :o

Quote from: '[TW
Wilsonam;767051']You just haven't heard them yet



Yes, we will release some of the vid. And yes, they are pretty much all recorded from the real weapons - firing sounds, reloads and everything. Using a 5-mic setup, out in the Nevada desert with a top-quality sound team...


Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: djdynamite123 on 16-07-2011, 10:07:07
This will be an epic game, i'm hoping this is the new COD world at war and COD 2 game combined. Cant wait for some bolt rifle only servers on this lol. That's what makes COD 5 awesome, bolt rifles using the Kar without a scope!

And a PC game only ffs how amazing? not a port whoop!

Shame the graphics aint gunna be jaw dropping like BF3's due to Frostbite engine, but the gameplay will be classic!
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: SiCaRiO on 22-07-2011, 03:07:36
BOX ART!"

(http://www.heroesofstalingrad.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/RO2_DisplayBox_Russia_PR.jpg)
(http://www.heroesofstalingrad.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/RO2_DisplayBox_West_PR.jpg)

And now the system specs that people have been asking for:

Minimum:
OS: Windows XP/Vista/7
Processor: Dual Core 2.3 GHz or better
RAM: 2 GB
Graphics card: 256 MB SM 3.0 DX9 Compliant NVIDIA® GeForce 7800 GTX or better ATI® Radeon® HD 2900 GT or better
Sound: Windows Supported Sound Card
DirectX: DirectX 9.0c
Hard Drive: 8 GB free hard drive space

Recommended:
OS: Windows XP/Vista/7
Processor: Quad Core 2.6 GHz or better
RAM: 3 GB
Graphics card: 512 MB SM 3.0 DX9 Compliant NVIDIA® GeForce GTX 260 or better ATI® Radeon® HD 5750 or better
Sound: Sound Blaster Audigy or better
DirectX: DirectX 9.0c
Hard Drive: 8 GB free hard drive space
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: djdynamite123 on 22-07-2011, 11:07:30
i meet the recommended system specs so all good there :) And great looking artwork!
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: DLFReporter on 22-07-2011, 11:07:52
I pre-ordered it yesterday  :D
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: GooGeL on 22-07-2011, 12:07:09
http://www.heroesofstalingrad.com/wp-content/gallery/ro2-july-2011/ro2_sf_2011_maxim_1stp_01.jpg
http://www.heroesofstalingrad.com/wp-content/gallery/ro2-july-2011/ro2_sf_2011_pavlov_env_01.jpg

There's no sense of depth in those tree's and shrubbery. They look to be thin as a leaf that follows you around like in really old games.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Smiles on 22-07-2011, 13:07:39
Honestly the graphics almost makes me believe they mixed FH2 and BfBc2
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: flyboy_fx on 22-07-2011, 15:07:32
I also preordered! :D If this game sucks ima return it right away! LOL
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Pascucci the Whiner on 22-07-2011, 17:07:19
The box art is bad enough for me to decide not to pre-order it. It looks like something from castle wolfenstein.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: VonMudra on 22-07-2011, 17:07:46
Agreed on that sentiment....
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: djdynamite123 on 22-07-2011, 17:07:38
how can you make judgement of a game via the covers gfx work? o.0
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Kradovech on 22-07-2011, 20:07:36
The footage of infantry combat is so good, nothing can stop me from pre ordering it. The cover could have captain america with a mp40, I´d still get it.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: flyboy_fx on 22-07-2011, 21:07:30
The footage of infantry combat is so good, nothing can stop me from pre ordering it. The cover could have captain america with a mp40, I´d still get it.
I feel the same just with tanks! <3
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: blue on 22-07-2011, 23:07:30
Yeah, I am making an exception and I will probably pre-order this at some point as well.

I agree that the cover is ridiculous, and I think it is a cheap attempt to try and lure the COD/Tactical bozo crowd. That being said, I have faith in the game being fairly good. Also I try to support companies like tripwire when they manage to release games like this. Some of the videos/screenshots have been mediocre, but I think in the end it should look good.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: SiCaRiO on 23-07-2011, 00:07:46
from the Devs:

Quote
Q: All of your marketing seems to be aimed at attracting new players from outside the community instead of marketing the game to the RO faithful.

A: Let me just head something off at the pass right now. We're getting ready to release the box art for the game. And there is bound to be a 20 page thread of "OMG MkB42 Swat German" that rants and raves. Now instead of doing that, why don't you guys just hold off. Yes we're trying to expand the playerbase of the game, and yes a lot of our marketing art will be aimed at attracting a new audience. Why is that? Because we don't need to convince the RO faithful to check out RO. You guys already like RO1, and have at least some interest in RO2. Joe gamer does not, and we want to get "joe gamer" to have a look at the game. It is all about peaking their interest, and if we try and market the game like RO1, we'll attract only the same people. And we DO want to attract the same people, but we also want to bring in a lot more gamers.


so yea, its an attempt to atrack kiddies and a bigger playerbase :P. But still, if you are interested in infantery combat like no other game has made before, or a very inmersive tank combat, you should get this game. True , is not historical accuarated, but no other game (or mod) is 100%.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Wulfburk on 23-07-2011, 00:07:07
Quote
The box art is bad enough for me to decide not to pre-order it. It looks like something from castle wolfenstein.
man what a negativism.... Mass Effect had such a crappy box art and look, the game is great.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: 9.Pz Benz on 23-07-2011, 10:07:54






Post this here:

By [TW]Ramm-Jaeger

Tripwire Interactive President

An Open Letter To The Community

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 Ah summer. The sun is shining, the release date is nearing, and the temperature in the RO2 forums has gone nuclear. So I've decided to pull myself away from working on finishing up the game to give a quick message to the community. My hope here is to get everyone to calm down a bit, take a few deep breaths, and stop freaking out.

To be honest with you, this is the worst I've ever seen the RO forums in 8 years of working on RO. And to be even more frank, I'm a bit ashamed of you guys. The RO community has always prided itself on it's maturity. We've quietly (or not so quietly) chuckled to our selves at "CS-Noobs" and "COD-Kiddies" secure in the knowledge that the RO community wasn't like those other guys. Now I get 10 PMs a day through Steam or Skype from new guys to the RO forums telling me they don't want to go here because of the flaming and vitriol coming out of these forums. Guys, you are better than this!!! I know it, because I've seen it in the past. So lets start proving to the world that the RO fans ARE more mature, and ARE the best fans in the world.

Now I'm going to post a few things in a little mini Q&A where I try and answer some of the questions or discuss issues the community has been discussing.
 
Q: All of your marketing seems to be aimed at attracting new players from outside the community instead of marketing the game to the RO faithful.

A: Let me just head something off at the pass right now. We're getting ready to release the box art for the game. And there is bound to be a 20 page thread of "OMG MkB42 Swat German" that rants and raves. Now instead of doing that, why don't you guys just hold off. Yes we're trying to expand the playerbase of the game, and yes a lot of our marketing art will be aimed at attracting a new audience. Why is that? Because we don't need to convince the RO faithful to check out RO. You guys already like RO1, and have at least some interest in RO2. Joe gamer does not, and we want to get "joe gamer" to have a look at the game. It is all about peaking their interest, and if we try and market the game like RO1, we'll attract only the same people. And we DO want to attract the same people, but we also want to bring in a lot more gamers.

Q: Why are you turning RO2 into COD

A: The short answer is we're not. As a matter of fact, if anything, the game is probably still a little too hardcore. If you've read any of the press previews they go on and on about how hardcore the game is. Now I believe part of this is just due to the fact that they were thrown into a playtest with a bunch of devs and testers that have been playing the game for years, and are super elite at it. But at its core, the game still plays like RO. It just now doesn't have a learning "cliff", it has a learning curve. And things flow a lot smoother, we've removed a lot of the barriers for entry. Of the RO1 fans that have entered the beta, 99.9 % LOVE RO2. The reason for this is that RO2 does just what we've said it does, it makes Red Orchestra more accessible while keeping the core gameplay elements (the heart and soul) of what the fans loved about RO1.
 
Q: But you've got weapon X that I just totally think is unrealistic which means you guys have gone off into fantasy land!
 
A: Get over yourselves. We use the same yardstick for inclusion of weapons in RO2 that we did in RO1. If it could possibly have been there, it is fair game to put in the game. We had the PPD40 in RO1, that rare weapon didn't ruin the game. Where was the outrage over the inclusion of the G41 in RO1? The fact is we're doing the same thing we've always done. It is just that some people have made it there personal mission to shout from the rooftops proclaiming their intelligence, and TWI's lack thereof. It is time for those people to sit down, zip it, and let the rest of us get on with enjoying RO2. And if all else fails, there will be options to remove any weapon, and any weapon upgrade for server admins. O P T I O N S are your friend You'll be able to customize the game heavily out of the box. And for those things you can't do as an option, there will surely be mutators soon after release, because the mod SDK will be available.

Q: But I'm afraid I won't be able to get enough people to play on a server with the super hardcore options that I like.

A: Let me get this straight - your afraid you won't be able to get 32 players out of the entire playerbase to fill up a server with the options that you like. Yet you want us to make the ENTIRE game that way? Doesn't sound like smart business to me. The good thing about growing the playerbase (which is what we're trying to do) is that it will attract all kinds. The bigger the playerbase, the better chance you have of filling up your server with all of the options just the way you like them.

Q: My opinion of realism is more correct than Tripwires
 
A: Great, go start your own game studio and make a game exactly the way you want it. That is what I did But seriously opinions on realism are like opinions on beauty, religion, politics, etc. Everybody's opinion differs and we can't make everyone happy (just look at the debate on FOV zoom on ironsights - it was always split 50/50 even between realism nuts). So we pick what we think is the best course of action, and listen to community feedback when it is reasonable, and well presented.

Q: But but but, what about bayonets!@#$@#$
 
A: Ok we'll give you this one. We've decided that everyone that owns RO1 will have a day 1 unlock of the bayonets for the Kar98 and the Mosin Nagant 91/30. So go stab happy right out of the gate! The other weapons you'll still have to earn them, but this is our compromise.

Q: Ok, so what about drum mags for the PPSH?
 
A: Sorry, the game has been balanced for the smaller mag capacity of the PPSH at the start. Since the rcecoil of SMGs in RO2 is more realistic (and much easier to control than RO1), we found that the PPSH was owning the universe. We had a few choices. We could have made it handle unrealistically and just nerfed the guns accuracy or boosted its recoil unrealistically. We could have heavily limited it's availability. Or we could start users out with a stick mag. We chose starting users out with a stick mag. Yes it's a little gamey, but it was the best compromise. Someone will certainly come out with a "PPSH drum mag instant unlock" mutator within a week of release if it bothers you that much

Q: You guys suck at PR, when are we going to see some HD gameplay videos? #$!@#
 
A: This is a side affect of being a smaller company (bigger than we used to be, but still smaller than others). All of the guys that would work on trailers are busy finishing up the art for the game. In August your going to see a LOT of media, including HD gameplay trailers. As a matter of fact, you're going to see the biggest media/marketing blast you've ever seen out of Tripwire in August. You won't be able to turn over a rock without seeing news, info, or ads for RO2. Anyone that doesn't know about RO2 at the end of August will have been living under a rock. We also want to ensure the first HD gameplay footage we release is really professional and gets people excited. This is why we haven't spammed out generic guys running around shooting people in maps videos.
 
Q: The silence is deafening, why are the devs so quiet?
 
A: Because we're busy working insane hours trying to finish up the best tactical shooter ever made!!! If we don't have time to sleep, see our families, eat, go to the bathroom, etc, then we REALLY don't have time to post on the forums a lot.

Q: But but but, why is all of the gameplay footage from conventions shakeycam?
 
A: For some strange reason, press people these days only bring equipment to record HD footage straight from game consoles. I know it is hilarious. Apparently most of the press are so used to game studios only showing console versions, they don't even bring the equipment to record from PCs to shows with them.

Q: It's only 1.5 months from release - why isn't X finished, why aren't you doing X yet, etc etc.

A: Well we made Killing Floor in 3 months with 10 people. We've got half that time left and 3 times as many people working on RO2. So you do the math A LOT of game development and polish happens in the last couple months of any games release.

Q: I read some guy's blog that says the game is ugly and is totally going to fail because Tripwire are liars and are the 4th side of the axis of evil !@#$
 
A: Said blogger and some of his buddies are disgruntled due to being turned down access to the beta, and are now taking it out on Tripwire. Take what these people say with a grain of salt. Most of the beta guys (including original RO1 guys and guys from other communities) really like the game. Some of the guys coming from other communities have some complaints about the game not being enough like COD. Some of the RO1 guys have a few minor complaints or things they would like to see change. But overwhelmingly the beta guys REALLY like the game. I'm going to post something here that sums it up really well that one of the betas said. Those of you that know Amerikaner know that this guy has a habit of speaking his mind, and is the furthest thing from a Tripwire "puppet" you can get on these forums. This was the feedback he posted on the private beta forums:
 
Amerikaner: I must say, the feel of the beta is pointing to RO2 being what I hoped it would be. It seems to retain what makes RO great, but pushes those characteristics to the next level by adding the complexity of a simulation like ArmA but in such a way that is inviting and smooth. One of the absolute greatest aspects of RO since the mod was that it really made you feel like you were firing a weapon. RO2 takes that to the next level. It sounds corny as hell but during the Fallen Fighters session today, after firing the Kar98 across the square, I honestly thought I smelled burnt gunpowder for a split second. It felt so real that my mind actually took me back to the range in my head. That's some damn good game mechanics. I cannot wait to play more.

So I'm going to leave you all with that. Hope things cheer up around here, and I look forward to seeing you guys on the battlefield.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Graf_Radetzky(CZ) on 23-07-2011, 12:07:06
That looks damn good! Time for FH3   :D

To Box-Art discussion, they are just trying to get more players and judging game by using box-art, thats stupid.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Smiles on 23-07-2011, 17:07:22
Although my negativity about the graphics (ima whore) i still think im going to buy this game.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Ciupita on 23-07-2011, 18:07:15
I believe RO2 will have great mods which take off the "arcadeism" of original game.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: flyboy_fx on 23-07-2011, 19:07:02
Im sure everyone had the same opinion about BF2... ;) Then look at the mods we get! Bada-boom
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Alakazou on 23-07-2011, 19:07:37
That looks damn good! Time for FH3   :D

To Box-Art discussion, they are just trying to get more players and judging game by using box-art, thats stupid.
Never... I prefer a Fh2 with all the new theater and new game mechanic than a FH3... with no boat, no plane and no epic huge battle.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: evhgear on 25-07-2011, 17:07:29
Never... I prefer a Fh2 with all the new theater and new game mechanic than a FH3... with no boat, no plane and no epic huge battle.

^THIS     <3
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 25-07-2011, 18:07:39
I pre-ordered it yesterday  :D
Where did you preorder it?
I'm probably going to preorder the British version at Amazon.Uk as soon as I'm back home (it'll Be the 2nd thing I'll do after downloading 2.4) because I've heard that the German version will be disfigured by "Jugendschutz" crap like green blood etc.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Eat Uranium on 25-07-2011, 19:07:02
I preordered on Play.com, since it was £5 off compared to Amazon.co.uk.  It wasn't listed on Game.co.uk.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Bang0o on 25-07-2011, 19:07:11
I pre-ordered it yesterday  :D
Where did you preorder it?
I'm probably going to preorder the British version at Amazon.Uk as soon as I'm back home (it'll Be the 2nd thing I'll do after downloading 2.4) because I've heard that the German version will be disfigured by "Jugendschutz" crap like green blood etc.
dont forget mine homie! :D
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 25-07-2011, 19:07:31
I preordered on Play.com, since it was £5 off compared to Amazon.co.uk.  It wasn't listed on Game.co.uk.
They deliver for free outside the UK, but they write that delivery takes 7 - 10 days. Amazon is quicker, AFAIK.
Bangoo, contact me in Steam, when I'm back home, then we can talk it through ;) 
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: flyboy_fx on 25-07-2011, 19:07:52
I also Pre ordered it at gamestop so I will get it the day of release. I will be sure to post vids of the gameplay so you guys can make up your minds...  8)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: mopskind on 25-07-2011, 19:07:46
Is there going to be a demo version? Not sure if my laptop can handle it (and yes i saw the specs but i always think that you have to try performance first)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Bang0o on 26-07-2011, 08:07:05
Is there going to be a demo version? Not sure if my laptop can handle it (and yes i saw the specs but i always think that you have to try performance first)
i asked the ceo of tripwire a while ago: there is no demo version planned, but there will be a "free-play-weekend" on steam ;)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LHeureux on 26-07-2011, 10:07:49
I pre-ordered it yesterday  :D
Where did you preorder it?
I'm probably going to preorder the British version at Amazon.Uk as soon as I'm back home (it'll Be the 2nd thing I'll do after downloading 2.4) because I've heard that the German version will be disfigured by "Jugendschutz" crap like green blood etc.
What? Germany does that? I can understand for the swatiskas but not for the blood, wtf?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 26-07-2011, 12:07:53
What? Germany does that? I can understand for the swatiskas but not for the blood, wtf?
The most infamous example of German "Jugendschutz" is Half Life. When it was released it was deemed "too brutal" and i.e. blood colour has been changed (from red to yellow) and human soldiers were replaced with "robots". Another example is TF2, where body parts were replaced with items like springs, present boxes etc.
Basically the BPJM punishes adults for the sake of "child protection" Even though Games are already Rated "18+".
Yeah, Germany sometimes really sucks... 
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: DLFReporter on 26-07-2011, 13:07:50
... Another example is TF2, where body parts were replaced with items like springs, present boxes etc.
...

This actually improved TF2 by a lot in my eyes! :)
It brings out the fun factor of the game. I laughed so loud the first time I saw a burger and other stuff fall off the Heavy.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: blue on 26-07-2011, 14:07:54
What? Germany does that? I can understand for the swatiskas but not for the blood, wtf?
The most infamous example of German "Jugendschutz" is Half Life. When it was released it was deemed "too brutal" and i.e. blood colour has been changed (from red to yellow) and human soldiers were replaced with "robots". Another example is TF2, where body parts were replaced with items like springs, present boxes etc.
Basically the BPJM punishes adults for the sake of "child protection" Even though Games are already Rated "18+".
Yeah, Germany sometimes really sucks...

Is there any serious punishment if you circumvent those changes?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: McCloskey on 26-07-2011, 14:07:57
You can't, at least not on Steam from what I know of.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: DLFReporter on 26-07-2011, 14:07:25
Is there any serious punishment if you circumvent those changes?

No, the laws only apply to what and how it goes over the counter, you are free to use bloodpatches and whatnot.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 01-08-2011, 13:08:19
http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showpost.php?p=778541&postcount=16 (http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showpost.php?p=778541&postcount=16)
It´s August, one month and we´ll have the game, also TWI promised a "flood" of new info, media (hopefully we´ll see HD in-game videos and some tank footage or maybe even more info about the upcoming mods) and maybe even a Beta (see link above). The content of the Polish collectors edition was also shown already and I´m actually a bit excited if we´ll see other collectors edition, soon and what they will contain. This will be a great month and I can´t wait to get my hands on the game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_gst-Ryh3g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_gst-Ryh3g)
So it begins...
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Natty on 01-08-2011, 13:08:47
any word on a demo?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Bang0o on 01-08-2011, 13:08:04
any word on a demo?
one post above yours
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: flyboy_fx on 01-08-2011, 17:08:15
29 days till I get my game!
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Sander93 on 01-08-2011, 23:08:59
''Free weekends at some point'' - I hope they realize most people (like myself) won't buy a hardcore game without having played some trial version...
I mean it's probably good but there's so many features, for better or worse, that I'm too 'scared' to buy it without having tried it for myself.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: G.Drew on 02-08-2011, 00:08:19
Are we there yet?...
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Natty on 02-08-2011, 12:08:38
''Free weekends at some point'' - I hope they realize most people (like myself) won't buy a hardcore game without having played some trial version...
I mean it's probably good but there's so many features, for better or worse, that I'm too 'scared' to buy it without having tried it for myself.
They'll sell a couple of hundred thousands copies to "hardcore" fans who don't really care if the game is good or not. Hopefully TWI has a higher goal than to please a small niche clique of players, or the game will end up like the first RO. (more or less a retail mod)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 02-08-2011, 13:08:34
Im not going to buy this until I have had a chance to try it out. RO was nice at the very start when it seemed new and fresh but after a week or two it became boring and I havent really played it since. Its just not a game I enjoy playing. However, while I havent been following RO2 stuff one single bit, I do want to try it. But Im not pre-ordering, im not buying it, not until I know how it is.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 02-08-2011, 13:08:55
http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=48698 (http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=48698)
Here´s a community-made "fact thread", that collects all known and released facts. You might want to check that one out, Flippy, it´s quite interesting.

I always liked RO for being a "niche" product. It´s pretty difficult to master because it has a steep learning curve (some might call it cliff) but once you´re into it it´s (atleast to me) one of the best multiplayer FPS. It´s gritty, it´s brutal and totally uncompromising, but that´s what many of its fans like about it. Even if they don´t score 40 kills, the game is totally immersive. "Darkest Hour" can even top that with new effects.
There are elements that make the game really, really frustrating at some time and almost impossible to play for the "casual crowd", but from what TWI has released so far it seems that these things were fixed (awkward and complicated movement for example).
I also believe that RO2 will be more "accesible" for new players, unfamiliar with RO´s gameplay, but at the same time the game will also please the "old crowd" because it´s fully modable and server admins can change any parameters of the game. And don´t forget that there are already mods in development, making the game even more diverse.
ROOST and its mods is still being played by a good number of people, today, even though it was released over 5 years ago, even though it´s a "niche product". And don´t forget that TWI started as a small mod team that made enough money to produce a sequel for their very first game they developed, without the help of a big publisher, such as EA or Activision.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LHeureux on 02-08-2011, 18:08:24
^ What he said Flippy, for 40$ you get lots of awesome mods, an awesome community support and patches that will bring new contents and the awesome game  ;D
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 02-08-2011, 19:08:37
Hell no Im paying that. I'll try it in free weekend sometime and then see whats up with all this nonse... I mean, ruckus.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: SiCaRiO on 02-08-2011, 20:08:19
''Free weekends at some point'' - I hope they realize most people (like myself) won't buy a hardcore game without having played some trial version...
I mean it's probably good but there's so many features, for better or worse, that I'm too 'scared' to buy it without having tried it for myself.
They'll sell a couple of hundred thousands copies to "hardcore" fans who don't really care if the game is good or not. Hopefully TWI has a higher goal than to please a small niche clique of players, or the game will end up like the first RO. (more or less a retail mod)

oh the eternal dilemma, aim at your player base and please them with a good game that requares thinking or aim at the brainless masses of casual gamers making dumbed down games for easy access.(mw3, bf3..).

I prefer the first one :P
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Natty on 02-08-2011, 20:08:24
oh the eternal dilemma, aim at your player base and please them with a good game that requares thinking or aim at the brainless masses of casual gamers making dumbed down games for easy access.(mw3, bf3..).
I prefer the first one :P
The fact that BF3 requires more "thinking" than RO2 makes your post even more fluffy than it already was.

And I dont know the official definition of "elitist" but I think calling other people "brainless masses of casual gamers making dumbed down games for easy access" qualifies nicely in there, GG. ;)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Kradovech on 02-08-2011, 21:08:29
''Free weekends at some point'' - I hope they realize most people (like myself) won't buy a hardcore game without having played some trial version...
I mean it's probably good but there's so many features, for better or worse, that I'm too 'scared' to buy it without having tried it for myself.
They'll sell a couple of hundred thousands copies to "hardcore" fans who don't really care if the game is good or not. Hopefully TWI has a higher goal than to please a small niche clique of players, or the game will end up like the first RO. (more or less a retail mod)
Well, nothing's better than a free weekend to let you try it out, now is there? Though Natty, I can save you the trouble of the download and tell you you are not going to enjoy this game. It pretty much goes against everything you believe a fps game should be.

In any case I'd much rather see them please their small niche of players, than aim for the general playerbase like the majority of the games coming out and leave their fans unsatisfied. We don't need another battlefield 3, we already have one coming out.

You can attack our small "niche clique" as much as you like, but we are still going to play it and we are going to enjoy it. The next COD game is probably going to sell 3 times more copies than RO2, but so the fuck what? Everything is not about numbers.

Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: SiCaRiO on 02-08-2011, 21:08:44
oh the eternal dilemma, aim at your player base and please them with a good game that requares thinking or aim at the brainless masses of casual gamers making dumbed down games for easy access.(mw3, bf3..).
I prefer the first one :P
The fact that BF3 requires more "thinking" than RO2 makes your post even more fluffy than it already was.

And I dont know the official definition of "elitist" but I think calling other people "brainless masses of casual gamers making dumbed down games for easy access" qualifies nicely in there, GG. ;)

call it what you want, but regen health, shiny sniper scopes, vehicle regen, infinite ammo for vehicles, 3d spotting hallhack are all just to mkae people think less and shot more, hence brainless ;)

i dont see how bf3 requeres more thinking , maybe you think of "what dorito red tiranlge should i shot first??" 
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Oberst on 02-08-2011, 21:08:07
... maybe you think of "what dorito red tiranlge should i shot first??"

Dont forget the new shiny red stars you can shoot!  ;)

I have never played any of the RO games before, I just saw some videos and read a little bit about it nothing more. Maybe shame on me, maybe not. But I am following all RO2 news, I am really interested in it. I am even very suprised how the RO-Devs support the mod teams and that there are already mods on the way for a game, which hasnt been realesed yet. Thumbs up for that.
But I wont preorder it either. I want to see a least actual game footage and read some test, before buying it. Even better trying it out in a demo, as I am a little bit afraid the game isnt what I thought it would be, so I am following further news, but not waiting for it, like there wont be any other game a all.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Ciupita on 02-08-2011, 21:08:57
You can now preorder it from Steam. 28 euros for owners of RO1. (-20%)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Eat Uranium on 02-08-2011, 21:08:15
The Steam pre-order is not something I will bother with even though it would save me about £2.  Dammit, I want my disc!  And I cannot be arsed to cancel my current order.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Lightning on 02-08-2011, 21:08:46
Steam says if you preorder you get the K98 and M91/30 bayonet unlocks from day 1. What does that mean? Do you have to unlock bayonets?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Fuchs on 02-08-2011, 21:08:32
Went for digital deluxe.. Yes, I don't feel like unlocking weapons. 36 Euros is not that much.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: G.Drew on 02-08-2011, 21:08:55
Kinds ridiculous to have to unlock bayonets tbh. But hell I went and got the Deluxe for £24 anyway.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: RAnDOOm on 02-08-2011, 22:08:17
Also pre-order it already.

This is looking good, very good indeed.

Gonna have to say bye bye to BF2/3.

Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 02-08-2011, 22:08:24
Damnit...I feel so tempted to cancel my Amazon.UK preorder and get the Steam Deluxe version instead. But I just don´t trust the USK and fear they´ll cut the German version and I don´t want that. Decisions, decisions!
Aw, screw it, I´ll order the deluxe edition on Steam. I would´ve paid 35 Euros for the UK version, anyway, so no money is lost, but I get access to the beta and some other neat stuff.

Info regarding the free to play weekend (http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showpost.php?p=782100&postcount=138). According to Ramm-Jäger there will be a F2P weekend shortly after the release.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: siben on 02-08-2011, 23:08:27
I liked playing red orchestra when it was still a free mod for unreal tournament 2004. A few years later i bought the game of steam for 5 euro. I liked it a lot but only to play for an afternoon and then just leave it for a few weeks. I think i might just buy it for the sake of it, it's definitely not MW2, and i like that, nothing like a good city map and an smg in your hand :) (when you don't have lag that is)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Tim270 on 03-08-2011, 02:08:39
Going to cancel my Amazon pre-order for the steam deluxe edition (only £24!!).
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: flyboy_fx on 03-08-2011, 02:08:22
Meh... I hate steam...
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 03-08-2011, 02:08:50
To buy or not to buy?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: DLFReporter on 03-08-2011, 07:08:55
Going to cancel my Amazon pre-order for the steam deluxe edition (only £24!!).

Did the same. DAMN YOU STEAM! ^^
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 03-08-2011, 07:08:31
Heck, even Im tempted due to this 20% off deal.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Natty on 03-08-2011, 07:08:21
It pretty much goes against everything you believe a fps game should be.
do I have a set of ideas of what an FPS "should be"? I'd like to hear those, because that's news to me.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Comrade Roe on 03-08-2011, 18:08:33
MUST BUY PREORDER... And since I have the original, I get 20% off. Should be deluxe edition for extra weapons and my Heavy pilot hat plus the KF reenactors (I have too many games)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: A-tree on 03-08-2011, 20:08:55
(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/A-tree/x-x-everywhere.png)

Over 9000 hours on paint etc..
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: G.Drew on 03-08-2011, 21:08:40
Bravo Sir.


Bravo.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Kradovech on 03-08-2011, 21:08:29
It pretty much goes against everything you believe a fps game should be.
do I have a set of ideas of what an FPS "should be"? I'd like to hear those, because that's news to me.
You have quite often expressed what players like and what they enjoy, or rather, what they do not. RO2 contradicts with many of your theories. I could find some specific quotes by you, but I'm too tired for that.

Rather I'm going to tell about my expectations toward RO2, based on what I have read on it. At its core,  it's going to be still the same game RO1 is.
They have added some new features: squadsystem similar to brothers in arms I believe, some very interesting looking game modes, destroyable environment to some extent.
They got rid of most of the annoying factors: playing infantry, deploying and using machineguns in prone is a lot easier, smoother and logical, by the looks of ingame videos. You can drive tanks alone quite effectively, if you wish. You don't have to double click to fire a bolt action rifle etc.
But its still Red Orchestra. My point being, if you didn't like RO1 because of the little annoyances, (that there were a lot of, to be honest), RO2 is definitely worth trying out over the free weekend, if not before. If you didn't like a single aspect of RO1, chances are you are not going to like RO2.

Yes, there is going to be a arcade mode or softcore mode or whatever you want to call it, but I wouldn't put too much hope into that. They are not likely to beat COD or battlefield on their playingfield, as the companies behind those games have far more experience in making "regular" shooters. Though Tripwire may yet surprise me on this part as well. Not that it matters, hardcore mode is where its going to be at!
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: VonMudra on 03-08-2011, 22:08:28
(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/A-tree/x-x-everywhere.png)

Over 9000 hours on paint etc..

I love it.
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Post by: flyboy_fx on 04-08-2011, 00:08:31
----------------------------------------------

Both posts above that line where great! The MKB42 thing is epic though!
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Natty on 04-08-2011, 01:08:13
You have quite often expressed what players like and what they enjoy, or rather, what they do not.
Yes, I believe that players like certain things :) ofcourse. And that they don't like other things. But I don't have one set of idea that I blindly apply on all games like some written-in-stone-dogma.
Battlefield is far from a "regular" shooter as well. What doest that even mean? regular compared to what? To Rainbow Six or GRAW? or compared to Americas Army?

I only think it's naive - or to be honest, ridiculous - to black and white paint divide games into "hardcore" and "caual" or "realism" or "arcade". Many fanboys players of games like RO or ArmA or mods like PR make it out as if their games are "above" other games, and that it is more "serious" and "mature" and requires "more thinking"... I try to view games objectively without fanboy subjective bias, a good game is a good game. Now if it is fun or not is a completely different matter. CoD MW is an outstanding shooter, a remarkable project which hits high score on every feature they aimed for. Now I dont think that's a fun game, because the fun they provide isnt for me. I never like CS, Unreal, Quake or any of those "box shooters". But I can still view the design of CoD MW and say it's a great game.
CounterStrike:Source as well, is a spot-on perfect game, for what it aims to be. it doesnt aim to be a realistic shooter, or portrait anything we can relate to in the real world. It has about as much relevance as a Vegas slot-machine. And it provides the same perfect fun everytime their players play it. Pull lever, feel rush of anticipation fun. That is the design of a slot-machine, and CS is about as simply, and geniously, designed.

The fun that "Operation Flashpoint" provided was to me awesome, but it is very far from the fun that for ex; Bf1942 or BFHeroes provides, I like all those games a lot. If you stick to only liking one type of fun, and apply subjective values to those funs, you'll end up narrow-minded and always having to compare games towards those values. I cant afford to be so one-sided.
Sure it's fun to be a fanboy passionate about games, and apply metavalues or community resonance ("we who all love WW2 and play this game") to games, it gives them a deeper meaning. But I can do that also, but I have been so disappointed on so many games the last couple of years, who promise epic themes and experiences, but havent a solid design (a good game) to back it up with. This is why I remain sceptical / non-commited until the design has proved itself. After that I can also become a fanboy more passionate about it.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: siben on 04-08-2011, 11:08:17
I bought the game, i hope to see you guys in a month ingame :) We should definitely squad up.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: FatJoe on 04-08-2011, 16:08:01
I shouldn't.. but

The fact that BF3 requires more "thinking" than RO2 makes your post even more fluffy than it already was.

I'm interested in first of all knowing how BF3 requires more thinking than RO2, and how you consider this as a fact ( you did say it's a fact ).. I would love to see where your Fact comes from :)


Also, I'm pre ordering ( first title that I do I think :) ) but not sure if delux or not.. what do you guys say? Delux worth it?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: DLFReporter on 04-08-2011, 16:08:23
Deluxe gives you funny hats in TF2.... hell yeah.  ;D
Nah, the only reason to get the deluxe would be the early beta access.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 04-08-2011, 16:08:53
I want that stalhelm for tf2...
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 04-08-2011, 18:08:10
Got the Deluxe, as well. 35 Euros is such a tiny amount of money for a full game, getting it for under 30 Euros feels like a rip-off. TWI deserves every copy they sell and I highly admire what they did, if you consider that they were once a mod-team. Hats and early unlocks are a nice extra present and getting early Beta access is cool, as well.
I´m also a bit confused about Nattys (almost arrogant) statement that BF3 will be more  complex than RO2. Either he works for both TWI and DICE or he just purely made that up. RO2s tank combat alone makes BF3 look like any other casual shooter (no matter hoch much you loathe that term, Natty, games like COD and BC2 have so many striking similiarities about their gameplay that this term just perfectly fits).

I just wonder, when the DDE folk will get access to the Beta. My best and most optimistic guess would be next week, sometime.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Mr_Cheese on 04-08-2011, 19:08:26
Hmm, I'm very tempted by the deluxe pre-order at £24...

But why's the standard game only going to be £25 when it's first released when other games are usually £30-35? Does it have a very limited amount of content/maps? (I haven't really read any details about the game at all)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Natty on 04-08-2011, 19:08:00
BF3, casual shooter.. lol... OK that's where this discussion showed its true trollface.

Ill get back to commenting on RO2 when Ive played the demo, see if it's fun enough to matter.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 04-08-2011, 19:08:51
Hmm, I'm very tempted by the deluxe pre-order at £24...

But why's the standard game only going to be £25 when it's first released when other games are usually £30-35? Does it have a very limited amount of content/maps? (I haven't really read any details about the game at all)
Check out the official ROHOS fact thread (http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=48698), where the community collected all the confirmed features. I would say it comes with a very good amount of content, compared to other games and with full mod support the community will get more and different content, too (and don´t forget that TWI will release new maps and vehicles, for free, later).
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Eglaerinion on 04-08-2011, 19:08:21
Infantry gameplay looks so glitchy, unnatural. The movement especially.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LuckyOne on 04-08-2011, 20:08:11
Infantry gameplay looks so glitchy, unnatural. The movement especially.

Funny, I thought the same thing about FH2 when I first played it...
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Eglaerinion on 04-08-2011, 20:08:59
Infantry gameplay looks so glitchy, unnatural. The movement especially.

Funny, I thought the same thing about FH2 when I first played it...
In Battlefield it looks alot more natural, animations are still not very good but it looks less like people are fighting their way through the air.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Filo90 on 04-08-2011, 20:08:41
I think that Battlefield 2 engine is the worst one talking about infantry combat  ::)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: G.Drew on 04-08-2011, 20:08:30
Infantry gameplay looks so glitchy, unnatural. The movement especially.
Try playing the first one. Believe me, this is a hellova lot better.

Althought saying that there has been a distinct lack of gameplay footage.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: flyboy_fx on 04-08-2011, 21:08:27
All we have really seen is single player. IMO, the few awful things so far IMO, You have to unlock crap, MKb42s (Still fun though!!!), singleplayer AI, and pistol animations...
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Bang0o on 05-08-2011, 09:08:00
(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h199/A-tree/x-x-everywhere.png)

Over 9000 hours on paint etc..
afaik the mkb42s and svt40 are only available on the hero class. and that class is only available one per side. so we wont see many of them even on the most arcarde servers
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Priestdk on 05-08-2011, 14:08:59
Preorder on steam cant wait, and sorry Natty, but BF3 have not showen me anything worth byeing it or even pre ordert it for yet at all.
Until i see a real MP fight with what it is all about huge open maps not the bfbc2 narrowness and until i see helicopters, plaines etc and som real MP footage im not going to pre order somthing that as far as i now looks wery similar to bfbc2 visualy up to now, even with the better destructible enviroment we have seen from the video footage from the metro map witch is also more or less only inf combat with 1 or 2 light vihicles.

Even the curent alpha of bf3 is the Metro map and the gameplay from bfbc2 were you have to take out 2 boxes then you move on to the next section of the map etc.

And single player well ho cares i dont, that have newer been and will newer be the reason why i ever have or will play BF games at all, it have been for the MP only and the mods.

Ontop of this RO2 even already have like 3 mods in the works, and il bet my ass on we will see alot more ones the game and mod tools are released in around 1 month.

1:In county vietnam(vietnam war)
2:Rising Storm (pacific front doing WW2)
3:(Dont recall the name but a WW1 mod)


Another thing i can go on youtube and find atleast 1-2 total houers of different gameplay videos and MP videos from RO2 i know they have a shorter time to there release but still it is there, i cant with BF3 and its supose to be released in i think late oktober.
The only good thing i have seen visualy so far have been the single player tank map/thing from E3 witch lasted 12 min. But wen ever we see any MP footage like i have said before its always theese wery short flashing glimses of more or less nothing.


Im absolutly sure it will be awesome and im sure it will rock hard and i will proberly also bye it because i have been longing hard for an official bf3 game for years, but i doo not understand the ider behind showing of nothing it does not sell a game, and wount make people preorder.
All i can hope is it delivers otherwise like i have said plenty of times it will be the last bf game i have baught and i have all BF games sins bf1942 and addons, and up to bfbc2.

Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: mopskind on 05-08-2011, 16:08:59
Preorder on steam cant wait, and sorry Natty, but BF3 have not showen me anything worth byeing it or even pre ordert it for yet at all.
Until i see a real MP fight with what it is all about huge open maps not the bfbc2 narrowness and until i see helicopters, plaines etc and som real MP footage im not going to pre order somthing that as far as i now looks wery similar to bfbc2 visualy up to now, even with the better destructible enviroment we have seen from the video footage from the metro map witch is also more or less only inf combat with 1 or 2 light vihicles.

Even the curent alpha of bf3 is the Metro map and the gameplay from bfbc2 were you have to take out 2 boxes then you move on to the next section of the map etc.

And single player well ho cares i dont, that have newer been and will newer be the reason why i ever have or will play BF games at all, it have been for the MP only and the mods.

Ontop of this RO2 even already have like 3 mods in the works, and il bet my ass on we will see alot more ones the game and mod tools are released in around 1 month.

1:In county vietnam(vietnam war)
2:Rising Storm (pacific front doing WW2)
3:(Dont recall the name but a WW1 mod)


Another thing i can go on youtube and find atleast 1-2 total houers of different gameplay videos and MP videos from RO2 i know they have a shorter time to there release but still it is there, i cant with BF3 and its supose to be released in i think late oktober.
The only good thing i have seen visualy so far have been the single player tank map/thing from E3 witch lasted 12 min. But wen ever we see any MP footage like i have said before its always theese wery short flashing glimses of more or less nothing.


Im absolutly sure it will be awesome and im sure it will rock hard and i will proberly also bye it because i have been longing hard for an official bf3 game for years, but i doo not understand the ider behind showing of nothing it does not sell a game, and wount make people preorder.
All i can hope is it delivers otherwise like i have said plenty of times it will be the last bf game i have baught and i have all BF games sins bf1942 and addons, and up to bfbc2.


This was quite hard to read Oo
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: G.Drew on 05-08-2011, 17:08:55
Makes it all the more worthwhile to read I've realised  ;)

Once you get the accent right its easy peasy.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 05-08-2011, 17:08:28
Yeah, once you turn off your brain and enable Priest mode (no, not molesting children...) you can read all sorts of retardness.  :P
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LHeureux on 05-08-2011, 21:08:42
When english isn't your mother language it's easy to understand. That must be terrible to read for english people though.

But I totally agree with you. Iron Europe is the WW1 mod.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Mr_Cheese on 05-08-2011, 23:08:22
Hmm, I'm very tempted by the deluxe pre-order at £24...

But why's the standard game only going to be £25 when it's first released when other games are usually £30-35? Does it have a very limited amount of content/maps? (I haven't really read any details about the game at all)
Check out the official ROHOS fact thread (http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=48698), where the community collected all the confirmed features. I would say it comes with a very good amount of content, compared to other games and with full mod support the community will get more and different content, too (and don´t forget that TWI will release new maps and vehicles, for free, later).
Only 2 tanks and apparently no APCs? That might explain it. Though I see they'll be adding more as free DLC...
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: G.Drew on 06-08-2011, 00:08:01
They already said they'll be adding more in the coming patches, its just that they didnt have time/couldnt be arsed to make loads of vehicles.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: S1lv3rWolf on 06-08-2011, 01:08:55
They already said they'll be adding more in the coming patches, its just that they didnt have time/couldnt be arsed to make loads of vehicles.

They did say it took them 3 months to make a single tank, considering the whole detail on both the outside and the inside, they probably don't want to cut corners with the halftracks.

Also, on the topic of mods: http://www.moddb.com/games/red-orchestra-heroes-of-stalingrad/mods
These seem to be the only mods on ModDB under RO2.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 08-08-2011, 14:08:03
RO2 release date delayed. (http://www.heroesofstalingrad.com/faq/2-week-delay-to-30-sep/)
:(
I just hope that I won´t miss the last phase of the Beta, because I´ll be on holiday from the 4th to the 14th September. :/
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: G.Drew on 08-08-2011, 14:08:58
Drat. I was hoping to play a decent game before the Holidays were out.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: DLFReporter on 08-08-2011, 14:08:32
Two more weeks of betatesting for a polished game. I'm all for it :)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LHeureux on 08-08-2011, 15:08:39
(http://media.tested.com/uploads/0/1006/16425-darth_vader_noooo_super.jpg)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: flyboy_fx on 08-08-2011, 15:08:32
So, does this mean m preorder at gamestop means nothing now?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 08-08-2011, 16:08:29
So, does this mean m preorder at gamestop means nothing now?
Why wouldn´t that mean nothing now? They will just ship it two weeks later. Beta access and the other stuff for the DDE will still be enabled (most people in the TWI forum assume it´ll be the end of August), TWI just takes those extra two weeks to weed out bugs etc.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: flyboy_fx on 08-08-2011, 16:08:19
Okay... I figured since it was preordered in store it was only for that certain date... :o Because I'm not spending $5 extra on a game I'm unsure about! LOL
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: DLFReporter on 08-08-2011, 16:08:11
Okay... I figured since it was preordered in store it was only for that certain date... :o Because I'm not spending $5 extra on a game I'm unsure about! LOL
What?
You already did by preordering it.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: SiCaRiO on 09-08-2011, 02:08:15
Quote
2 week delay to 13 Sep

We knew people would be unhappy about the delay ? and we agonized over whether we should do it or not. Someone has already drawn the parallel on the forums: our earlier games have only really hit a real volume of users after launch. We know it is bad timing, after starting the pre-purchase last week. But the response brought home that the pre-purchase beta phase isn?t going to have 100s of people in it, with a few servers ? it is going to have potentially 10s of 1000s of people in it. Which is obviously great news. But it IS a Beta (it isn?t some ?marketing/PR Beta? with the game finished 2 months ago) ? and the large volume of people WILL throw up odd and weird little bugs that only come to light in bulk testing. Code and QA want the chance to fix that stuff before we actually release the finished product.

So people understand, internally no dates are being pushed back. Everything will still be finished to the same dates as for the original release date. What we are doing is buying ourselves 2 extra weeks of QA and bug-fix time.

We haven?t released dates of the next phases of the Beta testing, but they aren?t far away. We already have the first of the press in the Beta, with a ?preview? phase for the press scheduled to run over the next couple of weeks or so. After that, we?ll be ready for the final phase of the beta, with the pre-purchasers getting their hands on the game.

We haven?t taken this decision lightly: moving a release date late in the day is a nightmare. We?ve done it because we feel it will make a difference to the product on launch day ? for the better, obviously. Moving a schedule that involves a large (for us) marketing budget, physical production and distribution to the retailers across the glove, as well as disappointing the fans who have waited a long time for this game, isn?t easy. But in this case, we feel it will be worth the pain.


on their forums about the delay
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 13-08-2011, 10:08:04
Facepunch.com has published a Beta tester interview (http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1114505-Red-Orchestra-2-Heroes-of-Stalingrad-V2-I-thought-this-was-Music-Software?p=31674285&viewfull=1#post31674285).






Damn punks! (http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1114505-Red-Orchestra-2-Heroes-of-Stalingrad-V2-I-thought-this-was-Music-Software?p=31672596&viewfull=1#post31672596)




Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Ajs47951 on 13-08-2011, 11:08:01
"The Grain Elevator map looks awesome,"


Grain Elevator has me hooked now to  find my wallet.....


also hope maybe a tractor you can drive  ;D
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Kradovech on 13-08-2011, 16:08:40
Quote
Do classes with bolt action rifles also have pistols too?

A:
They're an unlockable for all classes, yes. Less frustrating for riflemen who get stuck in close combat this way.

Was very disappointed to read that. However a lot of people seem to feel the same way, so maybe this will be removed for the hardcore mode. Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: SiCaRiO on 13-08-2011, 16:08:53
remember weapons loadout can be edited by server, so there could be servers running the game without pistols for rifleman.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Kradovech on 13-08-2011, 16:08:30
That is good news. Though I'd still rather see tripwire balance the game without those pistols. Then the servers could edit them in, if they wanted, not the other way around.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LHeureux on 13-08-2011, 16:08:39
To quote a dev :

Quote
In realism mode however, it is going to be set up where only the historically correct classes are equipped with pistols
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Kradovech on 13-08-2011, 16:08:14
How silly was I to ever doubt the devs! I should probably send them cookies or something.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LHeureux on 13-08-2011, 21:08:53
Send them an IS-2, it will do.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 15-08-2011, 16:08:15
New trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Q9YBDHobzBo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Q9YBDHobzBo)

No HD gameplay footage, but Gamescom is starting soon so we might see something then.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Natty on 15-08-2011, 16:08:01
lol that was one lame trailer teaser  ;D but funny
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: G.Drew on 15-08-2011, 16:08:47
I was about to go into a rant of typical Natty hating on other games companys for shits and giggles.


Then I watched the video.


(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lbg7qqim4L1qd94n7o1_500.jpg)


Thats the best they could come up with? Seriously? How about some non-3rd person camera gameplay footage motherfucker?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 15-08-2011, 16:08:06
It´s a teaser, as Natty said it. They´re short videos, that are being made to create a certain "hype". As I´ve said, Gamescom starts in two days, so expect some HD first person then. Even though I have to admit that that whole "Grandpa, tell me some war stories!"-theme is a bit strange.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: SiCaRiO on 15-08-2011, 17:08:57
meh, boring teaser :P
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Ts4EVER on 15-08-2011, 17:08:31
The concept was nice, but using 1p footage would fit better to the whole flashback thing.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Kradovech on 15-08-2011, 19:08:06
A nice idea for a trailer, but somehow I feel they executed it poorly. This could have been much more funnier with better acting etc...
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Seth_Soldier on 15-08-2011, 19:08:42
funny teaser  ;D

 ;) well tripwire won't waste 2x the budget of the developpement of the game.
 :-\ nowadays advert budget is so big compare to the dev budget.

But i must agree that 1st person gameplay would have been better than 3rd (or at least a mixed)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: flyboy_fx on 15-08-2011, 20:08:04
The concept was nice, but using 1p footage would fit better to the whole flashback thing.

Yea, it made me lol still. LOL
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 16-08-2011, 10:08:47
New interview by Gamespy.com (http://au.pc.gamespy.com/pc/red-orchestra-heroes-of-stalingrad/1187817p1.html). I like what I hear about the DLCs and the SDK and the final comment gets me even more hyped for the Beta.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: flyboy_fx on 17-08-2011, 00:08:05
I wish there heroes would look like this guys 1/6 figures!!! AMAZING WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Smiles on 17-08-2011, 16:08:06
Does anyone know if the engine supports flying vehicles? For the mods.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: flyboy_fx on 17-08-2011, 16:08:54
AFAIK It does/can.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Bang0o on 17-08-2011, 21:08:16
Does anyone know if the engine supports flying vehicles? For the mods.
it does
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 18-08-2011, 15:08:04
Interesting (http://www.nofrag.com/2011/aou/18/38650/) news article. It´s in French, but if you use your French skills (or Google Translator) you´ll find some pleasant information. ;)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Kradovech on 18-08-2011, 17:08:31
Is there any new information in that article?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 18-08-2011, 17:08:38
I wouldn´t post it, if there wouldn´t be new information in that article.
But to make it easier:
- Possible DDE Beta release period is being announced (next week)
- Some new info about "Heroes"
- New info about the "honour" system and how excessive T/Kers will be punished
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Filo90 on 20-08-2011, 13:08:27
pics, pics and pics  ;D:

http://csnation.net/content.php?426-Exclusive-New-Red-Orchestra-2-Screenshots
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 22-08-2011, 12:08:50
Massive pic-dump by a beta tester. Just follow this link (http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=56615) and enjoy a whole bunch of 1080px in-gamescreenshots, showing all kinds of stuff, like infantry combat, weapons, in-game menus and tank interriors.
There are rumors that the DDE beta will be released on the 23rd August, so maybe in around 24 hours those who preordered it can start playing.  ;D
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LuckyOne on 22-08-2011, 23:08:22
"TotalBiscuit is joined by Tripwire to take a good long look at the upcoming realistic multiplayer WW2 shooter, Red Orchestra 2 - Heroes of Stalingrad"

http://www.youtube.com/user/TotalHalibut#p/c/1/bcvyeekjq_s

Absolutely hilarious, I'm now a sad panda for not getting DDE so I can get into the beta, supposedly starting tomorrow...
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LHeureux on 22-08-2011, 23:08:49
THE DEV SAID IN THE VIDEO that when the video will be uploaded we should be playing the beta or it would be very SOON. SO my theory on the forums is confirmed, we will play the beta on the 23rd of August or the day after woot 8D
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: G.Drew on 23-08-2011, 00:08:36
Check your mail mentlgen, I am now.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LHeureux on 23-08-2011, 05:08:20
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShPUyzDSe9Q&feature=player_embedded


 ;D
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Natty on 23-08-2011, 08:08:34
so there's no real single player mode? Just multiplayer with bots instead of humans? Like bf1942...?  :-\
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: DLFReporter on 23-08-2011, 08:08:14
so there's no real single player mode? Just multiplayer with bots instead of humans? Like bf1942...?  :-\

I actually think that they hit a good middle ground for a multiplayer game. ;)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Musti on 23-08-2011, 10:08:01
1:56 What is that scope? ZF41 on G43?

Tanks look and sound VERY good.I'd buy the game just for those.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 23-08-2011, 10:08:41
Check your mail mentlgen, I am now.
DIdn´t the Devs say that they´d announce the Beta one day in advance? So unless we´ll have another news thread announcing the Beta we´ll have to wait.
The trailer was extremely cool, it´s great to finally see some HD in-game footage! I so can´t wait for this game! Now I have to watch Total Bicuits Gamescom video, fortunately it´s in 1080px available now! :D
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Ts4EVER on 23-08-2011, 14:08:01
1:56 What is that scope? ZF41 on G43?

Tanks look and sound VERY good.I'd buy the game just for those.

G41 with ZF41
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: flyboy_fx on 23-08-2011, 16:08:30
I'm glad I'm getting this!!!!!!!
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 23-08-2011, 18:08:16
The Beta will most likely be released early next week, around the 30th August. (http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=56818)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Kradovech on 23-08-2011, 20:08:03
so there's no real single player mode? Just multiplayer with bots instead of humans? Like bf1942...?  :-\

Scripted singleplayer is nice and all, but IMO their time is much better spent working on the multiplayer. Lets be honest, on average singleplayer is what, 6-10 hours of gameplay? Whereas multiplayer on games such as bf1942, bf2, TF2, RO1, has hundreds, possibly thousands hours of gameplay in them. We expect no less from RO2 and working on singleplayer instead of having few more online maps would be a waste of the devs time really...

Singleplayer will be nice place where to get accustomized to the gameplay and mechanics and I think this is perfectly fine in a multiplayer game. Like bf1942.

Videos are looking good, pretty much what I expected the game to be like. FH on steroids you might say. Can't wait to get my hands on the finished product. Sometimes I wish the guy's showing the game would be a bit better at playing though :P
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: SiCaRiO on 24-08-2011, 01:08:49
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXRTQuPVSgk

dudee, I wish all devs were as awezome as those :P
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Krätzer on 24-08-2011, 07:08:06
the running animation of German Soldeirs looks totaly stupid =D
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Alakazou on 24-08-2011, 08:08:21
Everyone know german run like that  ;D
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: DLFReporter on 24-08-2011, 09:08:15
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXRTQuPVSgk
dudee, I wish all devs were as awezome as those :P

God, I so want to play it now... ^^
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 24-08-2011, 12:08:15
the running animation of German Soldeirs looks totaly stupid =D
German soldiers were actually drilled to run like this, see here (http://www.dererstezug.com/HandletheRifle.htm) and RO2 is the first video game that shows proper weapon handling.
I really liked the "Red Octobre Factory" shown in TBs second video! Also the playermodels look really, really good and I like those small details, such as a spare barrel container on the German machine gunner. Too bad the Beta was delayed, too, so it seems like I somehow have to hibernate untill the 30th August >.<
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Kradovech on 24-08-2011, 18:08:50
the running animation of German Soldeirs looks totaly stupid =D
German soldiers were actually drilled to run like this, see here (http://www.dererstezug.com/HandletheRifle.htm) and RO2 is the first video game that shows proper weapon handling.
I really liked the "Red Octobre Factory" shown in TBs second video! Also the playermodels look really, really good and I like those small details, such as a spare barrel container on the German machine gunner. Too bad the Beta was delayed, too, so it seems like I somehow have to hibernate untill the 30th August >.<
I believe he meant that the animation feels a bit unnatural. I can't say it bothers me that much.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Lightning on 24-08-2011, 18:08:37
The left arm is flapping about too much.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: G.Drew on 24-08-2011, 19:08:41
I think the last thing you are thinking about when running in the open is how much your left arm is flapping into your sight :P
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Musti on 24-08-2011, 20:08:43
I think fingers are a bit unnatural.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Sander93 on 24-08-2011, 22:08:36
Finaly someone agrees with me that the German animations make them look like monkeys when sprinting.  ;D
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 24-08-2011, 22:08:38
Great video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TboYnvmMxKE&feature=player_embedded) showing the commanders abilities (spotting and artillery), tank combat (from the Russian perspective) and the German AT soldier kit (he´s armed with a pistol, a PTRS and it seems like he also carries a "Hafthohlladung", magnetic AT grenade). I actually came a little and god damn, this game will rule so much! Tanks actually feel like tanks, and the commander is an important asset on the battlefield. Also it´s great to see assist points in ROHOS, especially when you´re using AT rifles.
I really think that I´ll hibernate untill the DDE Beta will be released!
And another (http://mashthosebuttons.com/2011/08/red-orchestra-2-heroes-of-stalingrad-multiplayer-preview/) nice article that describes the in-game sound. Definately worth reading!
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Wilhelm on 25-08-2011, 00:08:13
Did the Germans utilize captured PTRS's enough for it to be included as their AT kit?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: SiCaRiO on 25-08-2011, 04:08:42

And another (http://mashthosebuttons.com/2011/08/red-orchestra-2-heroes-of-stalingrad-multiplayer-preview/) nice article that describes the in-game sound. Definately worth reading!

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I have never played a game that actually made me feel bad for killing someone.  To give you an example of what I’m talking about, I shot an enemy soldier in the stomach and I was close enough to hear him.  He didn’t just scream and die; he bled out, crying and sobbing in Russian while he died…  Slowly.  For a few seconds I honestly thought, “sorry dude.”  Those aren’t the only sounds you will hear.  There has been more than one time I have been in a different room with an ally, heard a gunshot go off, and then heard my ally screaming, SCREAMING, in agony as he died.  It’s very hard to describe the feeling that it gives you, but it definitely adds intensity and emotion into the game.

from the article. this part make me want the game even more =9
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Priestdk on 25-08-2011, 08:08:45
The game is going to rock so hard :-)

Bedst part is there are atleast 3 awesome mods comming for it aswell

WW1 mod.
WWII Pacific mod.
And vietnam war mod.

And year the wtf video is awesome i love howe the guy is playing and talking.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Natty on 25-08-2011, 08:08:05
Scripted singleplayer is nice and all, but IMO their time is much better spent working on the multiplayer. Lets be honest, on average singleplayer is what, 6-10 hours of gameplay? Whereas multiplayer on games such as bf1942, bf2, TF2, RO1, has hundreds, possibly thousands hours of gameplay in them. We expect no less from RO2 and working on singleplayer instead of having few more online maps would be a waste of the devs time really...

Sure, but 10 hours for 50 euro is OK price for entertainment if you ask me. If the multiplayer isnt compelling enough, at least you can get some fun out of the game for the price you pay by playing a cool SP campaign.
also, developing single player is usually done separatly from MP, but I have no idea how many designers Tripwire has, could be they are sweating to even get the MP done in time.. + the fact that their core fanbase only wants to frag eachother... Problem for this particulat studio could potentially be that they don't show much interest in expanding outside their core.. this leaves them extremely vulnurable if the core lets them down. Singleplayer has the power of introducing new players to the fanbase, which can convert to being core players after a while, which will be much needed for their next game after this, since a huge part of the old core certainly will have left by then.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 25-08-2011, 10:08:17
ROHOS already has more preorders on Steam than MW3, so I guess TWI has done everything right. Also, don't forget that the servers are fully modable, due to mutators and they have included several different game modes that suit the original fanbase as well as new players.
Plus, unlike other Game developers TWI will release an SDK, so mods and costum maps made by the community will Be released soon. We'll get tons of entertainment even without a fully scripted singleplayer campaign.
I'm also quite happy that TWI stays true to its roots and won't dumb the game down too much, in order to attract a wider audience. Free2play weekends, free DLCs and all the stuff I've listed above will sell enough copies and fortunately there's no big multi-million company like EA behind TWI, urging them to do everything for the maximum profit. ::)   

EDIT:
According to this post (http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1114505-Red-Orchestra-2-Heroes-of-Stalingrad-V2-I-thought-this-was-Music-Software?p=31925928&viewfull=1#post31925928) we´ll get a whole bunch of Beta gameplay videos soon (late today, early tomorrow for Euros) since the NDA will expire at that time. Stay tuned! :D
EDIT2: More screenshots (http://s1221.photobucket.com/albums/dd468/Br0nson1/RO2/) here.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 25-08-2011, 14:08:54
I preordered it just so I could get a stahlhelm for my Soldier in TF2... and because it was quite cheap with the percentage discount as I already have RO.

No. Other. Reason.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Filo90 on 25-08-2011, 17:08:47
new preview

http://www.redorchestra.nl/heroes-of...ds-on-preview/

3 new videos from beta:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXHWPzTPskY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_WeR2DEIMo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkKo5j1nOQQ

 :o
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Oberst on 25-08-2011, 17:08:04
The links are broken.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Natty on 25-08-2011, 17:08:45
standard mantra
::) that's getting old.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Filo90 on 25-08-2011, 18:08:01
now they work  ;)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: flyboy_fx on 25-08-2011, 18:08:45
Why are they speaking english???? 0_0 I notice only the team your on speak heavy accented english... Can you make it to where they always speak there native language no matter what?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 25-08-2011, 18:08:11
Arrogant know-it-all response!
See, I can be a childish troll, too ::)

OT: Just came back from the pool, now I´m gonna watch all those nice Beta videos. That should make the waiting for the DDE Beta a tad more easier to bear.
Flyboy, AFAIK the langauge settings can be changed. Standard is that your team speaks English with a matching accent, while the enemy speaks his native language. Therefore it´s easier to understand what your teammates say.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: flyboy_fx on 25-08-2011, 19:08:53
I hope it can be changed! It seams tacky. :S But hay, I guess it would be easier to understand so I hope we have to option to switch from the two. I can't WAIT until release day!!!! My hard copy is waiting for me!~!


new preview

http://www.redorchestra.nl/heroes-of...ds-on-preview/

3 new videos from beta:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXHWPzTPskY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_WeR2DEIMo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkKo5j1nOQQ

 :o

Oops, just bumping these up to the 34 page so all will see. ;)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Kradovech on 25-08-2011, 21:08:39
Sure, but 10 hours for 50 euro is OK price for entertainment if you ask me. If the multiplayer isnt compelling enough, at least you can get some fun out of the game for the price you pay by playing a cool SP campaign.
also, developing single player is usually done separatly from MP, but I have no idea how many designers Tripwire has, could be they are sweating to even get the MP done in time.. + the fact that their core fanbase only wants to frag eachother... Problem for this particulat studio could potentially be that they don't show much interest in expanding outside their core.. this leaves them extremely vulnurable if the core lets them down. Singleplayer has the power of introducing new players to the fanbase, which can convert to being core players after a while, which will be much needed for their next game after this, since a huge part of the old core certainly will have left by then.

They are indeed struggleing: they pushed back the planned release date by 2 weeks. I don't know the exact amount of developers either, but its not many, as tripwire's a small studio. Anyway, singleplayer is indeed likely to be developed separetely, however it will still require resources, meaning there would either have to be cut backs in the multiplayer department, or the retail price of the product would have to be raised.

I think you are making too big of a deal of the whole single player thing. Many fine multiplayer games have been a great success and I've already mentioned them a few times: TF2, the BF series and also World of Tanks. I think its much more important to keep the price tag on  the current level: people might not want to pay 50 euros for a game they are not entirely sure about, 35 euros is an entirely different thing, a reasonable price to try out something new. We have our own friendly Warbear here as a fine example of this. Weather the game has singleplayer or not is of secondary importance

Secondly, a classic single player campaign is very tricky to pull off for this type of game without making it frustrating. Its all about one shot kills, meaning inevitably you are going to die. A lot. And you cannot set the players loose on too big of an area ( Lets say on a operation goodwood type of map), because then the storyline will become too difficult to control. This will take away much of the freedom from the players.

In a multiplayer game you would respawn after dieing, with an option to choose a different strategy to overcome the situation, much like in FH2. But in a singleplayer campaign with a storyline depending on the survival of your character (and possibly the characters in your squad) you would have to load from the latest save point every time ether you or some of them die. Then you'd have to do the exact same thing, until you succeed. Ok, you can go right this time instead of left, but essentially you will be fighting your way through a coridor. No matter how wide it is, it will still be a coridor, limiting your options severly. This works with games like COD because you dont die THAT often.

I'm not saying it would be impossible to pull off, I'm it's hard as hell and would require a lot of time to perfect. And time is something Tripwire doesn't have.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Ts4EVER on 25-08-2011, 21:08:23
If it was a 60€ game I would expect a singleplayer campaign, for 35 bucks multiplayer only seems fair.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: siben on 25-08-2011, 22:08:02
I wonder why all you guys want to see screenshots and beta gameplay. We all know what RO was, we all read that RO2 will be the same, but more polished and better. Why ruin the surprise? I will see what the game is when i play it, i don't want it spoiled, i mean, if i saw everything in beta gameplay, and read everything about it that there is to know, why still buy it? Do you buy a book that you just read from a friend?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Ts4EVER on 25-08-2011, 22:08:16
I wonder why all you guys want to see screenshots and beta gameplay. We all know what RO was, we all read that RO2 will be the same, but more polished and better. Why ruin the surprise? I will see what the game is when i play it, i don't want it spoiled, i mean, if i saw everything in beta gameplay, and read everything about it that there is to know, why still buy it? Do you buy a book that you just read from a friend?

So you watching someone play a multiplayer game is the same as playing it yourself? Considering the one defining aspect of games as a medium is interactivity, that seems weird...
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: siben on 25-08-2011, 22:08:58
Me playing a game, where i have seen everything in advance bores me to hell. Sure, multiplayer is fun, but after playing a map 10 times i feel bored and unfocussed unless i can voicechat and listen to some music on the back ground (like World of Tanks) Yes, i have focus problems and a very random mind IRL
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 25-08-2011, 22:08:38
Another video (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gc-11-red-orchestra/719760) showing more of the tanks, from the Russian POV.
I really, really like how they portray the tanks. Instead of "being" the tank you really feel like you´re inside them. Vision is really limited, individual crew members can be killed and each crew member performs his jobs.
Especially the T-34/76 feels like the original with only 4 crew members and no cupola and therefore not many spots to look out, except if you want to risk your life by peeking out of a hatch.
I´m also quite happy to hear that you can compensate for shell drop by adjusting the sights to the proper ranges. Fortunately we´ll get new vehicles with a free DLC so we´ll have even more variety.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Natty on 25-08-2011, 22:08:01
See, I can be a childish troll, too ::)

I dont think you're a childish troll. I think you're just repeating the same old mantra heard a thousand times, like any other self-proclaimed "hardcore game" fanboy;
It's getting old... *yawn*

@Kradovech: Yea sad they're going with the whole 1s1k thing... such a simple-way-out in designing combat. They could have made it much more interesting. :-\
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Ts4EVER on 25-08-2011, 22:08:22
See, I can be a childish troll, too ::)

I dont think you're a childish troll. I think you're just repeating the same old mantra heard a thousand times, like any other self-proclaimed "hardcore game" fanboy;
It's getting old... *yawn*

@Kradovech: Yea sad they're going with the whole 1s1k thing... such a simple-way-out in designing combat. They could have made it much more interesting. :-\

I actually don't think there is all that much 1s1k. For one thing they have this thing where even if you get killed you have time to "get revenge" on the enemy before you bleed out, which imo is a nice answer to the inherent frstration that can be caused by 1s1k.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Eat Uranium on 25-08-2011, 22:08:57
They have instant kills if you get shot in the head or heart, prolonged deaths with other hits to vital organs, and non vital hits that cause bleeding (that kills you eventually unless bandaged - which stops the health loss but doesn't add extra health).
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 25-08-2011, 22:08:23

I dont think you're a childish troll. I think you're just repeating the same old mantra heard a thousand times, like any other self-proclaimed "hardcore game" fanboy;
It's getting old... *yawn*

@Kradovech: Yea sad they're going with the whole 1s1k thing... such a simple-way-out in designing combat. They could have made it much more interesting. :-\

They have instant kills if you get shot in the head or heart, prolonged deaths with other hits to vital organs, and non vital hits that cause bleeding (that kills you eventually unless bandaged - which stops the health loss but doesn't add extra health).

Sounds to me like a rather advanced concept, instead of the "same old mantra" you seem to despise so much.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Kradovech on 25-08-2011, 22:08:05
See, I can be a childish troll, too ::)

I dont think you're a childish troll. I think you're just repeating the same old mantra heard a thousand times, like any other self-proclaimed "hardcore game" fanboy;
It's getting old... *yawn*

@Kradovech: Yea sad they're going with the whole 1s1k thing... such a simple-way-out in designing combat. They could have made it much more interesting. :-\
Ditching their combat system just to have singleplayer? No thank you. I want RO, not another average shooter.

Also yeah its not totally 1s1k 100% of the time. It will be pretty much what we have in FH2 right now by the looks of it.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Natty on 25-08-2011, 22:08:35
Sounds to me like a rather advanced concept, instead of the "same old mantra" you seem to despise so much.
Now you're confusing the RO2 damagesystem with your automated mantra I was talking about

Also yeah its not totally 1s1k 100% of the time. It will be pretty much what we have in FH2 right now by the looks of it.

Well I hope for their sake they make the combat better than what we have....


Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 25-08-2011, 23:08:00
Please, enlighten me, Natty. What is my so called "Mantra"?
In the original post you quoted I was more or less praising TWI for releasing a multitude of game modes and a SDK which will further enhance the playtime of the game, unlike DICE/EA who have decided against it and instead will sell tons of DLCs to their fans, whereas TWI will even release free DLCs. I wasn´t even speaking of certain of gameplay issues, just about how TWI treats its community and fans and sells the game, so m kinda having a hard time, figuring out what my "automated mantra" I, as a "hardcore fanboy" "spit out again and again" (it´s a nice way of insulting someone, btw, which unfortunately doesn´t speak for your rhetoric skills, same goes for your *yawn*-comment).
As for me quoting EU:
You said they´d go for a 1S1K-style, but his post proved rather that TWI has implemented a more precise and advanced player damage system.

On the other hand I could call you a "mantra fan boy", too, because you seem to "spit out" (to use your words) the same stuff again and again, for example in the (in)famous BF3 thread.

And as a compensation for derailing this thread, enjoy a new video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KJAGlzIAIE&feature=player_embedded), for those who care about ROHOS.
EDIT: Does someone know btw, if the in-game music can be turned off? It sure sounds great, but I feel that it´ll be way to distracting in an actual MP match. WW2 soldiers didn´t have iPods either, where they could listen to music during a battle. ^^
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Musti on 25-08-2011, 23:08:27
Also yeah its not totally 1s1k 100% of the time. It will be pretty much what we have in FH2 right now by the looks of it.
Are the guns pixel accurate like in FH2 (no cone of fire bullshit)? So your gun shoots where you aim it + bullet drop?.
If yes, then I'm definitely buying it*! FH2 combat is probably the best there is so why not? tanks look epic.Combat also looks epic.



*When i'll finally get a proper PC to run it.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: SiCaRiO on 26-08-2011, 00:08:19
I preordered it just so I could get a stahlhelm for my Soldier in TF2... and because it was quite cheap with the percentage discount as I already have RO.

No. Other. Reason.

could you give me the game? dont feel like expending 29 for something someone already brougth and is not gonna use ^^


Quote
Are the guns pixel accurate like in FH2 (no cone of fire bullshit)? So your gun shoots where you aim it + bullet drop?

they shot right were the weapon is aiming , no cone of fire, however, guns move around realisticly,, and bullets doesnot comes always from the center of the screen as in bf2 (and bf3 ;)) so yea, its way more advansed ^^
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: 9.Pz Benz on 26-08-2011, 09:08:56
Please, enlighten me, Natty. What is my so called "Mantra"?
In the original post you quoted I was more or less praising TWI for releasing a multitude of game modes and a SDK which will further enhance the playtime of the game, unlike DICE/EA who have decided against it and instead will sell tons of DLCs to their fans, whereas TWI will even release free DLCs. I wasn´t even speaking of certain of gameplay issues, just about how TWI treats its community and fans and sells the game, so m kinda having a hard time, figuring out what my "automated mantra" I, as a "hardcore fanboy" "spit out again and again" (it´s a nice way of insulting someone, btw, which unfortunately doesn´t speak for your rhetoric skills, same goes for your *yawn*-comment).
As for me quoting EU:
You said they´d go for a 1S1K-style, but his post proved rather that TWI has implemented a more precise and advanced player damage system.

On the other hand I could call you a "mantra fan boy", too, because you seem to "spit out" (to use your words) the same stuff again and again, for example in the (in)famous BF3 thread.

And as a compensation for derailing this thread, enjoy a new video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KJAGlzIAIE&feature=player_embedded), for those who care about ROHOS.
EDIT: Does someone know btw, if the in-game music can be turned off? It sure sounds great, but I feel that it´ll be way to distracting in an actual MP match. WW2 soldiers didn´t have iPods either, where they could listen to music during a battle. ^^

Music can turned off as in RO1, and about the singleplayer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlcDStWfFTI&feature=player_embedded#! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlcDStWfFTI&feature=player_embedded#!)

Btw, dont enlight Natty to much. Let him stay here with the rest of the trolls  ;)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: DLFReporter on 26-08-2011, 09:08:28
I play both FH2 and RO2.  ;D
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: NTH on 26-08-2011, 10:08:55
I saw the blind fire option in single player. Is it available in multiplayer ?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: 9.Pz Benz on 26-08-2011, 11:08:30
I saw the blind fire option in single player. Is it available in multiplayer ?

Yes
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: NTH on 26-08-2011, 11:08:55
Very nice  :)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 26-08-2011, 11:08:56


Music can turned off as in RO1,

Awesome!
New videos:
A gameplay video showing the MG34 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfsdOuqA4ZE&feature=player_embedded)
Another video showing a MP round from a spectators POV (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbpilrC2KXU&feature=player_embedded). I really like the sound in this video.
More to come, so stay tuned!
EDIT:
New 25 min, 1080px video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtNtWvHoBfQ&feature=player_embedded) showing tanks, infantry combat and even a MG34 on a Lafette.
The only thing I didn´t really like so far is how quick players can bandage a bleeding wound. But who knows, maybe that´ll be adjusted.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hitm4k3r on 26-08-2011, 15:08:07
Does anyone know, whether it will be possible again, to shoot the weapons out of the hands? This gave me alot of intense moments in the first game. Had a good situation some days ago on Tscherkasy. Somebody shoot me the weapon out of my hands, then I instantly hit the dirt and searching for my weapon and ammunition bag being still under fire. I could only find my weapon, but the bullets in the rifle helped me to kill the guy, who was suppressing me - I simply thought: OMG!!!!!!! :o
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: 9.Pz Benz on 26-08-2011, 16:08:56
Does anyone know, whether it will be possible again, to shoot the weapons out of the hands? This gave me alot of intense moments in the first game. Had a good situation some days ago on Tscherkasy. Somebody shoot me the weapon out of my hands, then I instantly hit the dirt and searching for my weapon and ammunition bag being still under fire. I could only find my weapon, but the bullets in the rifle helped me to kill the guy, who was suppressing me - I simply thought: OMG!!!!!!! :o

As far as i know its not available in RO2 any more.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LuckyOne on 26-08-2011, 17:08:11
Does anyone know, whether it will be possible again, to shoot the weapons out of the hands? This gave me alot of intense moments in the first game. Had a good situation some days ago on Tscherkasy. Somebody shoot me the weapon out of my hands, then I instantly hit the dirt and searching for my weapon and ammunition bag being still under fire. I could only find my weapon, but the bullets in the rifle helped me to kill the guy, who was suppressing me - I simply thought: OMG!!!!!!! :o

As far as i know its not available in RO2 any more.

Unfortunately, but someone will hopefully mod it in...
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: flyboy_fx on 26-08-2011, 18:08:50
That would SUCK LOL! so far I'm REALLY glad I ordered it!
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: SiCaRiO on 26-08-2011, 22:08:00
they said you could fire the weapon if you were hit in an arm, however is not clear if its a bug or intended, since ti has not been mentioned by the devs.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hitm4k3r on 27-08-2011, 01:08:01
Does anyone know, whether it will be possible again, to shoot the weapons out of the hands? This gave me alot of intense moments in the first game. Had a good situation some days ago on Tscherkasy. Somebody shoot me the weapon out of my hands, then I instantly hit the dirt and searching for my weapon and ammunition bag being still under fire. I could only find my weapon, but the bullets in the rifle helped me to kill the guy, who was suppressing me - I simply thought: OMG!!!!!!! :o

As far as i know its not available in RO2 any more.

Unfortunately, but someone will hopefully mod it in...

Hm ... I keep the fingers crossed. I hope they will add it soon as possible. ::)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LHeureux on 27-08-2011, 06:08:30
It won't be possible, because in real life, you have 2 hands  ;)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Tuco on 27-08-2011, 08:08:25
How?
(http://www.redorchestra.nl/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/DrainPipe-1024x576.jpg)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Kradovech on 27-08-2011, 09:08:04
I always found the weapon getting shot out of my hands more annoying than intense in RO1. It happened way too often. This might happen with a heavy caliber bullet when you don't have a very good grip on the gun, maybe when running and holding it with one hand only. But generally I don't see this happening too often IRL. It shouldn't be much different from holding a piece of wood and having someone hit the other end with a sledgehammer. Its uncomfortable to say the least, but not enough for you to drop it. Feel free to prove me wrong on this.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: ajappat on 27-08-2011, 09:08:07
Didn't it happen happen when someone shot you in hand, not in gun? However I agree, it happens way too often.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Kradovech on 27-08-2011, 09:08:12
I´m actually not quite sure. I don´t recall having an injured hand after loosing my weapon in RO1... But I´m not entirely sure on this, maybe you are right.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Thorondor123 on 27-08-2011, 10:08:51
If you got hit in the arm, you dropped your weapon.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Kradovech on 27-08-2011, 10:08:58
Yes, yes, I can agree on that. I meant that I´m not sure it was like that in original RO.

Though I have to say, if you get hit in the hand, you are not likely to be able to use the hand at all... So from realistic point of view you´d drop and be unable to use it again...
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: siben on 27-08-2011, 11:08:14
A hit in the pinky wont completely make the hand useless. It would just hurt and bleed, not that much more.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Kradovech on 27-08-2011, 11:08:33
This is getting a little silly now, no? :P

OK, lets put it like this: a hit severe enough to make you drop your weapon would disable you from effectively taking part in the combat. So having one of these represented in the game without the other doesn´t make much sense. And since it was a rather annoying feature to begin with, they decided to drop it. Thats my theory at least.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Thorondor123 on 27-08-2011, 12:08:37
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcvyeekjq_s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXRTQuPVSgk

TotalBiscuit taes a look at RO2 and interviews the vice president of Tripwire.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Mr_Cheese on 27-08-2011, 12:08:48
Flyboy, AFAIK the langauge settings can be changed. Standard is that your team speaks English with a matching accent, while the enemy speaks his native language. Therefore it´s easier to understand what your teammates say.
You could say that it makes the game more realistic. If you were a Russian soldier you would be able to understand your native language (Russian) but not German, therefore when I play as Russians I'll hear my native language (English) and German (which I understand a lot less). If you look at it like that then the setting makes sense.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hitm4k3r on 27-08-2011, 14:08:17
Flyboy, AFAIK the langauge settings can be changed. Standard is that your team speaks English with a matching accent, while the enemy speaks his native language. Therefore it´s easier to understand what your teammates say.
You could say that it makes the game more realistic. If you were a Russian soldier you would be able to understand your native language (Russian) but not German, therefore when I play as Russians I'll hear my native language (English) and German (which I understand a lot less). If you look at it like that then the setting makes sense.
If you can change the language setting, it is ok for me. For me as a German, who is also able to understand Russian a littlebit, it feels more realistic, if the soldiers speak their native language. But for someone like you, who isn't able to understand no of this languages, it is indeed a little help. I think they made a good improvement on this. But in BC2 you have also russian taunts and so on and they are very good to understand. I think the use of the right languages adds a lot of immersion. And it isn't the case, that the soldiers are telling whole stories. So after a while you get the meaning of the taunts and alerts. A game, where this wouldn't fit is for example ArmA II, a game with much more complex dialogs. But in RO1 it worked very good and I think, that it will be the same in RO2.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: M00SE on 28-08-2011, 03:08:15
I'm getting worried about this game. Just been watching some of the latest vids of the beta.

I like the look of the maps, and there is things I recognise and liked from RO. But watching the action onscreen is awfull with the amount of text messages, huge players tags and general clutter that I see going on just wrecks any immersion and goes totally against all that RO Ost Front stood for.

I'm fearing another nob shooter is soon to be released amongst us.

Holding off on the pre order that's for sure.   :-\
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LHeureux on 28-08-2011, 05:08:47
7/8 of the beta footage videos are on relaxed realism servers, so name above heads and other HUD thing. If you play in realism servers you won't have all of this. Also you always have the options to turn what you want off and on.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: flyboy_fx on 28-08-2011, 06:08:44
Relaxed realism:For COD noobs, Realism: For FH2 players only.  :-*  :P
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 28-08-2011, 13:08:53
New video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY-6D94zHug&feature=player_embedded#!) showing off tank combat.
Armour plates can be weakened, turrets disabled, tracks destroyed, individual crew members can be killed, fully animated place switching, you really feel like your inside the tank and you can tell the AI driver where to go by using the WASD keys. Sounds really, good!
I just wonder how you aim the turret since the WASD keys are already occupied...
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LuckyOne on 28-08-2011, 13:08:18
New video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY-6D94zHug&feature=player_embedded#!)
I just wonder how you aim the turret since the WASD keys are already occupied...

With the mouse... (NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!  :'()

EDIT: Or do you mean as a commander? I assume that you just order your gunner to fire on the specific position...
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: siben on 28-08-2011, 13:08:33
Have you heard of..... Arrow keys?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 28-08-2011, 13:08:37
Ah ok, that´s why there´s a small white cross in the tank sights. I assume you move it and the sights reticle follows, so it probably won´t be too "direct". I also just read that you can adjust ranges in tank sights by scrolling your mouse wheel up and down.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Natty on 28-08-2011, 15:08:51
What, you can't rotate the turret with the mouse?

lol, no buy for me then. ::)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: ajappat on 28-08-2011, 15:08:59
What, you can't rotate the turret with the mouse?

lol, no buy for me then. ::)
One less teamkiller annoying us then  ::)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: flyboy_fx on 28-08-2011, 15:08:21
How do you know you can't rotate the turret with mouse?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 28-08-2011, 15:08:28
Ignore Natty, it´s better for everyone here. ^^

OT:
The range of rifle and MG sights can be adjusted when zoomed in with the mousewheel, while tank sights will still be adjusted with "Q" and "E". A Beta tester just confirmed it.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Kradovech on 28-08-2011, 18:08:16
Natty, I told you weeks ago this wasn´t your kind of game :)
How do you know you can't rotate the turret with mouse?
It was so in original RO, and since it wouldn´t make sense for them to remove such a good feature, I´m fairly sure it is so in RO2 as well.

Good things about this setup:
*No need to worry about mouse sensitivity affecting the turret speed
*It reduces the effectiveness of coaxial MG while leaving the main gun pretty much as effective as it would be with mouse control. Because of this the hull machie gunner will actually be an important role, as opposed to what we have in fh2 atm for example.
*It makes the tanks look more natural and immersive from the outside: The smooth movements of the mouse are replaced by less smoother mechanical movements.

Bad things: None that I can see.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LuckyOne on 28-08-2011, 20:08:15
Sorry to burst your bubble Krad, they removed it and went with mouse control... Can't find the official quote atm...
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Kradovech on 28-08-2011, 20:08:50
awww :(
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: flyboy_fx on 28-08-2011, 20:08:03
I want to be able to use my Joystick with the tanks. :O
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: SiCaRiO on 28-08-2011, 21:08:25
that white dot in the tank's sight is the mouse moving, the turret follows it, so they move exactly at the speed they are coded to move, and move mechanicaly while still following the mouse and pointing at there the mouse is.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 28-08-2011, 21:08:03
awww :(

Don't be sad I am sure they put some kind of traverse speed limit on it to keep it from being retarded.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: flyboy_fx on 28-08-2011, 21:08:00
that white dot in the tank's sight is the mouse moving, the turret follows it, so they move exactly at the speed they are coded to move, and move mechanicaly while still following the mouse and pointing at there the mouse is.

Like world of tanks right?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: SiCaRiO on 28-08-2011, 22:08:39
afaik yes, but you only have the reticle to move the mouse, no 3rd person view to do a 180º turn :P
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Kradovech on 28-08-2011, 22:08:30
I don't know why they had to fix something that wasn't broken, but I'm holding off with further comments until I have played it. I'll admit the "WoT system" doesnt seem that bad.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 28-08-2011, 22:08:49
I don't know why they had to fix something that wasn't broken, but I'm holding off with further comments until I have played it. I'll admit the "WoT system" doesnt seem that bad.
In ROHOS you need the WAD keys to give orders to the driver of the tank (i.e. "W"="Drive forward!").
They could´ve used the arrow keys instead, but let´s wait for the Beta to see how it´ll work.
EDIT: New video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZu90JJNkrw&feature=player_embedded). Not that much action going on, but I really like their map design. Every room looks like it has been individualy designed, which is really nice. Also you can see a very important and new feature: Cancelling reloads.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: DLFReporter on 29-08-2011, 07:08:53
God I love the details like the creaking stairs. ^^
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: ajappat on 29-08-2011, 12:08:02
God I love the details like the creaking stairs. ^^
They must have took that idea from FH2!!!!11

Really I loved playing Bastogne for first time, sneaking into church tower and I knew there was enemy. Slowly forward and suddenly *skreeeeeek*. I just paniced, threw a grenade and charged in  ;D
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Natty on 29-08-2011, 12:08:23
Ignore [WaW]hOMEr_jAy, it´s better for everyone here. ^^

Ok glad they went with mouse control then, I just hope I can drive and fire at the same time. I didnt play RO1 so for me it doesn't matter much what the system was there.

There's something "CS"-ish over this game though... Seems like a very complex system of mechanics has been built up arbitrarily only so players that master those exact mechanics will be sure to get a superior upper hand against normal players.... I dont feel this is "hardcore", it feels too predictable... But we'll see... Hopefully they allow enough freedom in the playstyles and movement so you can overcome those players that are drilling the optimal corner/duck fragskillz.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: SiCaRiO on 29-08-2011, 13:08:16
yep , they added red doritos over enemy players when camping.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Eat Uranium on 29-08-2011, 13:08:28
Ok glad they went with mouse control then, I just hope I can drive and fire at the same time. I didnt play RO1 so for me it doesn't matter much what the system was there.
I think that as long as there is an AI driver, you can move the tank from any crew position with the WASD keys, except that it is delayed a bit or not as precise as doing it yourself.  I'm not sure about if you have another player as a driver, I suppose they get some kind of notification of what direction you ask them to go.  Obviously I think with a dead driver you are going nowhere.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Ciupita on 29-08-2011, 15:08:19
Ok glad they went with mouse control then, I just hope I can drive and fire at the same time. I didnt play RO1 so for me it doesn't matter much what the system was there.
I think that as long as there is an AI driver, you can move the tank from any crew position with the WASD keys, except that it is delayed a bit or not as precise as doing it yourself.  I'm not sure about if you have another player as a driver, I suppose they get some kind of notification of what direction you ask them to go.  Obviously I think with a dead driver you are going nowhere.

In RO1 they scream those "foward, left, right, reverse" things like shown on those RO2 videos when human driver is there..
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 29-08-2011, 19:08:18
Is it...could it be...what the... *brainmelts*
http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=57434 (http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=57434)

(http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18785738/Responses/omg%20%285%29.gif)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: flyboy_fx on 29-08-2011, 20:08:52
 ;D I did not get DDE so enjoy guys! Be sure to make videos! I wanna make sure the preorder was worth it! LOL
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: 9.Pz Benz on 29-08-2011, 21:08:20
Got DDE, bring it on  ;)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: G.Drew on 30-08-2011, 00:08:12
Got DDE, bring it on  ;)
x2, however I wish they would stop calling it a beta.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LHeureux on 30-08-2011, 05:08:43
Got DDE, bring it on  ;)
x2, however I wish they would stop calling it a beta.
Then what?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: SiCaRiO on 30-08-2011, 06:08:23
demo?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LHeureux on 30-08-2011, 14:08:08
demo?
No, a demo is a limited version of the full game. A beta is there to test things. And this 2 weeks beta is there to mainly test the server stress and to see how well it can play in lots of rounds with 64 players, etc.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: G.Drew on 30-08-2011, 17:08:45
demo?
No, a demo is a limited version of the full game. A beta is there to test things. And this 2 weeks beta is there to mainly test the server stress and to see how well it can play in lots of rounds with 64 players, etc.
Seems stupid considering they are leaving it to the last minute to test something like this.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: ajappat on 30-08-2011, 17:08:21
Well of course they have tested those thing already before. This is just last confirmation that everything works. Nothing sucks more than broken game on release.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Kradovech on 30-08-2011, 18:08:45
What should they test in the last minute then?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: flyboy_fx on 30-08-2011, 18:08:46
Well of course they have tested those thing already before. This is just last confirmation that everything works. Nothing sucks more than broken game on release.

Cough cough, IL2...  ::)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LHeureux on 31-08-2011, 04:08:25
ALERT BETA IS LIVE!!! BETA IS LIVE!!! BETA IS LIVE!!! BETA IS LIVE!!! BETA IS LIVE!!! BETA IS LIVE!!!  ;D
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 31-08-2011, 09:08:54
Got up at 6.30 today, checked FB, read an announcement by TWI: The Beta is out!
Downloaded it in around 16 minutes and started playing. After around 2 hours, here are my first impressions:
Weapons: Feel good, sound good, especially in-doors! Bolt action rifles are good to use, and sometimes even prevail in CQB. You can decide if you want to manually or automatically want to "bolt" the rifle. As an RO1 vet I chose the first. Too bad bayos are an unlock, so butt-bashing only. SMGs are strong on short ranges and especially with the PPSH you have to aim carefully and fire controlled bursts, especially on long ranges.
My first kill was with a PPSH btw, on that "apartment" map. A German appeared infront of me and we both shot each other. :D
I only tried the MG34 once and can´t say much about it, except that the bipods work really well.
Same goes for the ATR. I only played one round with it, but I really like the sound. Oh, and I damaged a T34 with it and got a kill assist.

Tanks: I´ve only been in a tank once on Fallen Fighters. The animations and details are nice, but I had some problems commanding and directing that thing. I probably have to test it out on an empty server later because the controlls differ from RO1.

Sounds: Sounds are plain awesome. The voice chat between soldiers is great (best line I´ve heard so far was from a Russian. I was trying to clear a room filled with Germans when a grenade exploded next to me, "supressing" me, therefore I retreated a little. A comrade standing next to me then told me to "stop shitting yourself and grow some balls!")
Another time I was reloading my PPSH inside a room I´ve just cleared when suddenly a German stormed me with his pistol out. Before I could even react he bashed my skull and I dropped dead. The sound and the whole effects made me jump off my seat!
Another goose bump effect is at the round start when your whole team shouts "Urraaah!" or "Za Roooodinaa!". Really feels intense!
Weapon sounds are really well done, too and it sounds like theres a real firefight going on. Ambient sounds: Superb. When walking over shards of broken glass you hear it etc. The game sounds totally realistic.

Movement: TWI has introduced the best improvement to character movement, ever. Remember from RO1 when you were lying on the ground and wanted to get uo to sprint? You needed to press tons of buttons to just stand up. Now you simply press the "sprint" key when you´re down on the ground and the character just stands up automatically and starts sprinting. When you release the sprint button he drops down on the ground again. Simple, stream-lined and copied from BGE, but a great feature, nonetheless!
Generally, character movement feels good, too. Unlike most other games you feel like your moving a "human being" that is ladden with military equipment. You move sluggish and when you start to spring you can "feel" the acceleration as the "body" gains momentum and vice versa when you stop sprinting.
Also you can´t go prone everyhwere, for example when there´s not enough space for your virtual body. Very well done, too.

Gamemodes and maps: There are currently only 2 maps in the beta and 3 gamemodes.
Fallen Fighters is a rather big map and although urban has lots of open spaces. Apartment is a remake of Danzig, AFAIK, and is rather crampy. Most servers play Apartment unfortunately.
Gamemodes are Territory, which is pretty cool; Firefight, which I haven´t tried yet; and Countdown (if I´m not mistaken) which I´m not so fond of, because it feels a bit more like Counter Strike, with long "death phases".

One thing about the Beta build:
The whole Beta seems to run stable and I can run it on max on my laptop. The performance feels "steady" and I haven´t experienced any major bugs. There were some minor glitches, like stones you can look through, but nothing serious. The only trouble that seems to be in that build is the server browser. It seems to take lots of RAM and lags pretty bad during refreshing. I also got two crashes while I was scanning for new servers. On the other hand RO2 never had to deal with so many players at the same time and I´m fairly sure that TWI will fix that.

So much from me, I´ll now go and grab a glass of orange juice, ignore anything that´s not related to ROHOS and continue with the beta.


http://sv.justin.tv/vondeath#/w/1697508064 (http://sv.justin.tv/vondeath#/w/1697508064)
Livestream of the Beta, for those who care.

EDIT:
I stand corrected. I just played the map Gumrak, which is a tank only map (fortunately found a server that hosted it in Terr mode, with enough players) and I had my first taste of tank vs tank combat. I played on both sides and used both the T34 and the Panzer 4.
As I´ve said earlier, the animations and effects are great. When a tank blasts off you can see smoke and snow whirling through the air, while a fatal hit blows your tank up, sending sparks in the sky.
The controlls are different from RO1, but with AI crews they make sense. When you´re a tank commander you can give your driver orders by using the WASD keys. You can actually determine how fast it should drive and how long the driver should steer. Control isn´t as direct as in BF for example, but you can still get the tank where you want, with some time delay of course.
You can turn the turret with your mouse, similiar to WoT. It´s a bit difficult at first, but you get the hang of it quite fast. Also you can adjust the range of the guns, which works like a charm and got me some kills already.
Again, the voice commands are great and when you´re in the heat of the battle they add alot of immersion. You really feel as if you´re inside a real tank, while the crew gives or confirms order you have shells impacting etc. Also, like in RO1 your vision is limited and that makes it especially tense, when you´re being shot at or even hit and you scan frantically for the enemy. Just great!
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: mopskind on 31-08-2011, 10:08:40
Could you post the specs of your laptop? I am not sure if mine can handle RO2, especially graphiccard wise ( ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 31-08-2011, 10:08:46
Sure:
Intel Core i5 M520 @ 2.4 GHZ
Windows 7, 64 bit
4 GB RAM
NVidia GeForce GT330 M

Here (http://www.heroesofstalingrad.com/2011/07/21/box-art-and-system-specs/) you can see the "official" system requirements for ROHOS.
I have to admit that especially on 64 players Gumrak I had some lags, but I´m not sure if it´s because of my system or because of the server. 64 players tanking takes a heavy toll I guess.
And after checking out the advanced settings I have to say that most of the settings are on "high". There´s still the posibility to turn the settings on "ultra", but I have to find out if that´d work or not.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: 9.Pz Benz on 31-08-2011, 11:08:35
Play it on ultra :)

Game grabs you by the balls, still need polish. Other than that its pretty epic, voices in buildings are hollow and i cant wait for the ability to changes voices in German/Russian.

Good to see you can still insult, also the screaming of soldiers mortaly wouded is epic.

Best insult lines so far: I smell you over here Ruski :) or You and your red army i piss on it.

Grafics and ragdoll looks are somehow foggy/blurry, dunno why.

 
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: mopskind on 31-08-2011, 11:08:11
Ah dammit, my 2.1 ghz amd dual core ruins this :( :(
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 31-08-2011, 11:08:03
Benz, I heard that same line of text, too, but as a Russian. I was in the right side cap zone on Apartments, waiting for it to be captured, when I heard a German player growling "Ich riech dich bis hierher, Russki!". Pretty scary and very intense! I´m really suprised about how good the sounds actually are, especially when you´re inside a room.

Quote
Ah dammit, my 2.1 ghz amd dual core ruins this :( :(
It "might" work on slowest settings, but I kinda doubt it. You *could* (in theory) get the DDE version on Steam, test the beta if it´d run on your laptop and if it won´t ask Steam for a refound. Steam generally takes back games when they´re not yet released, you just need to ask Steam Support.
I´m not sure if it will work 100%, though.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: 9.Pz Benz on 31-08-2011, 12:08:40
It was also kinda fun to run into you in that building Homer, small world after all  ;D
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 31-08-2011, 13:08:36
Yes, small gaming world :D
After trying to kill a German ("Die Fritz, die!") I was unfortunately killed by a nifty rifleman. :/
Had another full round with tanks and had some pretty wicked situations.
One time I was foolishly driving my T34 up a slope and came immediately under fire from several P4. After receiving a hit on my turret (that killed the commander) I tried to drive it away, but unfortunately a second hit destroyed one of my tracks which resulted in my tank spinning around like crazy, still getting shot at. A third hit then ended my "journey", blowing my tank into pieces.
Another time my T34 came again under vicious enemy fire. I had several penetrating hits that killed my gunner and destroyed my engine. Helpless I tried to move from the driver seat into the gunners position to offer some last resistance. While switching the position I witnessed the full g(l)ory of ROHOS:
The tanks interior was full with blood splatters, my commanders lifeless (and limbless) body hung in its seat and the tanks interior was filled with smoke. After another non-penetrating hit (which is pretty intimidating) a fatal round blew up my T34, resulting in the death of the rest of my crew.

Of course it´s not all fun and games, there are some bugs in that build (ironically earlier builds seem to contain less bugs, according to one beta tester). For example players can´t spawn, there are minor graphic glitches and of course the dreaded server browser (which is damn cool, if it´d work, because you can set all sorts of filters, join ranked and non-ranked internet games, can join LAN games etc.).
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: G.Drew on 31-08-2011, 15:08:01
Yeh my game crashed the first 2 times on the browser. I noticed aswell the spawns need work on firefight(TDM), had half my entire team spawn on 2 germans. It was a massacre because for some reason I didnt kill one of them even though i shot him twice point blank range with a nagant. I didnt however get an assist so he must have bled to death :P
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: flyboy_fx on 31-08-2011, 17:08:46
My specs are...
AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 4600
2.4Ghz, 3.00 GB ram
Nvidia Gforce 7600GT
Think I can run it?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: G.Drew on 31-08-2011, 19:08:48
After some more playing:

Apart from the servers crashes, there a few other things ive noticed:

The collision with objects is annoying as hell, you hear someone and you try and turn round while prone next to a wall you vission keeps snapping back, and ofc you get killed.

The third map (the airbase, with the tanks-only TE mode) is a bit of a pisstake, because if you get put in the hull MG you've pretty much been shafted. And being stuck with only the MG sights it gets pretty annoying aswell.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Kradovech on 31-08-2011, 19:08:00
After some more playing:

Apart from the servers crashes, there a few other things ive noticed:

The collision with objects is annoying as hell, you hear someone and you try and turn round while prone next to a wall you vission keeps snapping back, and ofc you get killed.
I was actually kind of excited, when I first saw that you couldn't turn around in a trench, when prone. Its something we have all gotten used to since bf1942, but is something very silly if you think about it: spinning on your stomach with your feet flying through walls.
So it seems like the crouched position has gotten advantages over the prone position. I support this in theory, will have to test it in practice to see if they have made it feel natural. I don't doubt it will take some time getting used to.
Quote
The third map (the airbase, with the tanks-only TE mode) is a bit of a pisstake, because if you get put in the hull MG you've pretty much been shafted. And being stuck with only the MG sights it gets pretty annoying aswell.
That's dissapointing. IMO tanks shouldn't have more than 2 people in them, for the sake of gameplay. I mean the possibility of doing it should definitely available, but players shouldn't be forced to be in a tank with 2 other people. I take it that particcular map doesn't have any roles for infantry?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: 9.Pz Benz on 31-08-2011, 21:08:01
While playing the tankmap use option "dont allow human players in your tank" and of you go a tank all by yourself with decent AI crew to boss around and you can take their place in the tank with 123 etc buttons.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: G.Drew on 31-08-2011, 22:08:25
While playing the tankmap use option "dont allow human players in your tank" and of you go a tank all by yourself with decent AI crew to boss around and you can take their place in the tank with 123 etc buttons.
And it means other guys are still waiting in the spawn for another 10 minutes before they wise up and disconnect.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Ts4EVER on 31-08-2011, 22:08:49
While playing the tankmap use option "dont allow human players in your tank" and of you go a tank all by yourself with decent AI crew to boss around and you can take their place in the tank with 123 etc buttons.
And it means other guys are still waiting in the spawn for another 10 minutes before they wise up and disconnect.

You mean they don't have enough tnaks for all players on a tnak only map? Now that is just stupidity.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: SiCaRiO on 31-08-2011, 22:08:19
you have a limit in crewman IIRC, so if there are no tanks avalible you cant use tanks
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Ts4EVER on 31-08-2011, 22:08:51
Yeah but that doesn't make much sense on a tnak only map.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 31-08-2011, 22:08:45
I played almost 10 hours today. Atleast I´m not getting a wellfare check so I don´t have to feel guilty about being unemployed and spending the whole day playing video games. :D
One thing I noticed, that was a bit annoying is the SL spawn. It often happened to me that I spawned in the line of sight of multiple enemies, which resulted in a quick death. TWI should maybe rework the system because not only does it hamper squad cohesion, it´s also pretty frustrating.
On the bright side, I´ve enjoyed Fallen Heroes alot, especially in Territory Mode and being armed with the PTRS. It´s just a great tool to blast enemies who try to hide behind cover into pieces!
The bullet penetration works really well, too. I often found myself shooting from cover, just to have multiple rounds penetrating it and either killing me or forcing me back. It´s a really important tool and it makes especially machine guns so usefull.
Another usefull feature is the "magazine check". By holding "r" the character removes the magazine and "checks" how many rounds you have left (full, almost full, half empty etc.). No more guessing, especially with the larger mags.
There also seems to be a patch on it´s way, most likely with a server browser fix. Way to go TWI!
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Tim270 on 31-08-2011, 23:08:50
Gentlemen.
http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/577807044885309986/9BADE14C9AEAFBC9CFE2C421D6718BF5D9253733/

Shame the UI is so broken at the moment as the core gameplay is so much more refined than RO1. Hopefully some more interesting maps in the full version but I am enjoying the beta a lot.

Countdown is so fun!
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: TheRevoluzer on 01-09-2011, 00:09:16
http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/596947343301263442/0DF9E1A246E59D8FF95E04770BD7B2821A07B533

Yeah but that doesn't make much sense on a tnak only map.

But unlimited tank commanders -> everyone can get a tank and controll it and you can decide, if other players spawn in your tank -> crewmembers
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LHeureux on 01-09-2011, 02:09:45
My specs are...
AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 4600
2.4Ghz, 3.00 GB ram
Nvidia Gforce 7600GT
Think I can run it?
With a better graphic card you could run it at medium with some low and like 1 high setting. I got a 9800GT and 2 GB ram (wich is less than you) and I can run it like this.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LHeureux on 01-09-2011, 03:09:48
PATCH IS OUT! RESTART YOUR STEAM! PATCH IS OUT!

~700mb  ;)

EDIT : Sorry it's not ~700mb, it's just Steam messing up the size like always lol.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: G.Drew on 01-09-2011, 03:09:15
4 hours later.


Still cant get my head around tank combat, but the infantry side of things is pure sex. Watching a guy run up and smack a tank with an AT satchel on fallen fighters is a good laugh. Static MGs are quite good aswell.


Time to find out who has had the longest kill (that they can remember):

Mine so far is 159m with a Mosin-Nagant.

Die_Happy had 217m with a DP-28.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Filo90 on 01-09-2011, 04:09:57
some pics to show that RO2 doesn't lack about beauty:

(http://i.imgur.com/bXvinl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/bXvin)

(http://i.imgur.com/p2zBdl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/p2zBd)

(http://i.imgur.com/bZMi3l.jpg) (http://imgur.com/bZMi3)

look at the bullet wound (left), there enter and exit wounds in the game  :o :

(http://i.imgur.com/UrvLwl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/UrvLw)

not a family game  ;D :

(http://i.imgur.com/s6PkVl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/s6PkV)

(http://i.imgur.com/ZMNRYl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/ZMNRY)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: DLFReporter on 01-09-2011, 11:09:22
I don't think that the game we all love to play has to hide behind RO2. :)
(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/Battle%20of%20Brest/brest_05.jpg)

(http://xboxoz360.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/red-orchestra-2-beta-screenshots-oxcgn-11.jpg)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: RAnDOOm on 01-09-2011, 14:09:52
(http://hoststuff.forgottenhonor.com/hoststuff/ro2/media/forgottenhonor_publicserverbanner.png)

In case you dont know Forgotten Honor has a public server running.

Name - [Forgotten Honor]Public Server 64P - forgottenhonor.com
IP Address - 46.4.98.79:7777
Slots - 64


http://www.gametracker.com/server_info/46.4.98.79:7777/
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 01-09-2011, 18:09:33
Thanks to the bf-games.net forum I found a way to change the English voices to original voices:
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Get into \Steam\steamapps\common\redorchestra2beta\ROGame\C ookedPC\Sounds

Save all chattersounds like:
AUD_VOX_Chatter_GerEng_01_Cue
AUD_VOX_Chatter_GerEng_02_Cue
AUD_VOX_Chatter_RusEng_01_Cue
...

Now copy from the folter:
C:\Steam\steamapps\common\redorchestra2beta\ROGame \CookedPC\Packages\Audio
The AUD_VOX_Chatter_GerGer_01
The AUD_VOX_Chatter_GerGer_02
...
and rename them like the above ones! Important number to number! Than replace them with the eng versions and you have the native langugage of the country you play! Tried it out with infantry and tanks and it works well! Have fun with a much more intense and authentic battlefield!
I´m using it at the moment and it works really well. Just make sure you save the English files, in case you want to change it back.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: siben on 01-09-2011, 19:09:35
oh, this is nice, i go online and i see 3k people playing, but no visible servers, i do single player and the map starts loading, then stops and puts me back to the choice menu.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: TheRevoluzer on 01-09-2011, 22:09:18
oh, this is nice, i go online and i see 3k people playing, but no visible servers, i do single player and the map starts loading, then stops and puts me back to the choice menu.

Hopefully it works for you now, if not go to the tripwire forum and seek for help - there should be already a thread for that issue as a few already experienced that problem.
Singleplayer is not working in the Beta- they disabled it- therefor the Beta is smaller ;)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Mr_Cheese on 01-09-2011, 22:09:10
Trying to join a server seems to break my internet connection at the moment - it joins, shows the score list but I can't spawn and there's no-one on the map when I look round in free-cam. Then when I quit I can't load web pages etc.

Managed to play some rounds last night on Apartments though - after being killed instantly for the first few lives I got teamswitched (instant minus score :( ) and then seemed to get the hang of the game. Some great and tense moments fighting within the buildings! The bullet penetration through walls etc is going to take some getting used to though...

@siben - I also get that problem after "joining" a server (see above) and then disconnecting and going back to the server browser - 3k+ people playing but 0 servers.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: 9.Pz Benz on 01-09-2011, 22:09:31
oh, this is nice, i go online and i see 3k people playing, but no visible servers, i do single player and the map starts loading, then stops and puts me back to the choice menu.

Siben, you can try go in steam liberary. Right mouse click on RO2 Beta, choose properties then local files and click on verify integrity of game chache.

It works for me sometimes.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: G.Drew on 01-09-2011, 23:09:35
Just had a shot of the MG34...


Fucking. Garbage.

However, new PB for me, 173m!

Scratch that. 174 with Kar98.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 02-09-2011, 21:09:00
New patch coming tonight and it seems like we´ll get three new maps:

Still, a new patch is supposed to be released tonight. New maps for the Beta would´ve been great, though, as FF and Apartments become a little bit boring by now.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 02-09-2011, 21:09:05
Any word on SP?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Kradovech on 02-09-2011, 21:09:00
I don´t think they have a reason to put SP in the beta, you don´t need that many people to play through it to see that its working properly.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: djinn on 02-09-2011, 22:09:32
So how do I get it? Sorry, but there are just so many pages to go through to know, if someone could just answer in bullet points, I'm sure it will benefit more than just myself...
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: 9.Pz Benz on 02-09-2011, 22:09:55
3 new maps are added to the BETA: http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=59483 (http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=59483)

Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: flyboy_fx on 02-09-2011, 22:09:06
So how do I get it? Sorry, but there are just so many pages to go through to know, if someone could just answer in bullet points, I'm sure it will benefit more than just myself...

Get the beta? It comes with the "Deluxe download edition."
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Kradovech on 02-09-2011, 22:09:29
So how do I get it? Sorry, but there are just so many pages to go through to know, if someone could just answer in bullet points, I'm sure it will benefit more than just myself...
The beta is available to those who preordered the deluxe edition on steam.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Yustax on 03-09-2011, 07:09:54
We seriously need AT guns on RO2...AT rifles just doesnt cut it. And the exageration that came from RO1 with 'em. We need them!!!
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Kradovech on 04-09-2011, 19:09:51
I just upgraded myself to deluxe edition and tried to play a few rounds. It's difficult because I usually use my own control setup, and in the beta you are stuck with the stock setup. Is there any thread or something in their forums that has all the controls? I would search it myself, but I don't have an acoount there (I use hotmail)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: DLFReporter on 04-09-2011, 19:09:07
I just upgraded myself to deluxe edition and tried to play a few rounds. It's difficult because I usually use my own control setup, and in the beta you are stuck with the stock setup. Is there any thread or something in their forums that has all the controls? I would search it myself, but I don't have an acoount there (I use hotmail)

I could change my keys (Arrowkeys+Numpad) just fine? What special setup are you trying to chose?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Kradovech on 04-09-2011, 19:09:49
Really?
I have to check it again then, for me the whole setup screen was blank...

ADDED: Well, maybe its just for me, but I cannot change the controls, nor can I see what the defaul controls are. The same goes for all other settings as well, exept for the video settings.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Filo90 on 04-09-2011, 22:09:28
The awesome chaps at Valve have taken a break from their holiday weekend to get this update rolled out for us. So expect to see the update go live in the next 30 minutes.

Ramm
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: TheRevoluzer on 04-09-2011, 22:09:56
Hm, awesome? Such a service like steam has nobody working at the weekend?
Bad news for - I am becoming a soldier in 2 hours and have to move to the barracks...  :-\

EDIT:
Patch is here - 1,164GB
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: G.Drew on 05-09-2011, 00:09:09
Proped myself in one of the high rise outbuildings on grain elevator with a nagant. Ran out of ammo and killed 2 guys with my pistol before dying. final toll: 47 kills.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LuckyOne on 05-09-2011, 14:09:23
Just saw the avatars are dwarfs thread....

(http://images.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/9776907.jpg)


Well at least the Russian front is coming to good old FH2... someday...
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: DLFReporter on 05-09-2011, 14:09:59
I don't get it?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LuckyOne on 05-09-2011, 14:09:44
I don't get it?

They made the maps (windows, doorways) and props in game too big in relation to the player avatars... To the point that it looks ridiculous when spectating or looking at screenshots. The characters look like 10 yr olds... it isn't as noticeable in 1st person while playing though.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: DLFReporter on 05-09-2011, 14:09:43
LOL, some people are really nitpicking now (I never noticed it while playing the last 8h), kind of like the guys complaining about the shadow generation of the UT3 Engine. ^^
I guess that's a good sign since the game-play (at least for me) is near perfect. ^^
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LuckyOne on 05-09-2011, 14:09:30
LOL, some people are really nitpicking now (I never noticed it while playing the last 8h), kind of like the guys complaining about the shadow generation of the UT3 Engine. ^^
I guess that's a good sign since the game-play (at least for me) is near perfect. ^^

Well it's isn't much of a big deal but it's kind of an immersion breaker... You know feeling like you're fighting in a world made by giants... But I'll hold my critics on it for now, as I haven't played it yet.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: SiCaRiO on 05-09-2011, 15:09:28
its actualy pretty noticeable once you have seen it :

(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/8344/61647281.jpg)

(http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/9301/32340677.jpg)

(http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/1608/98914866.jpg)

(http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/6774/54966545.jpg)

(http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/1962/98309588h.jpg)

(http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/4117/34433851l.jpg)

(http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/8084/22175620.jpg)

(http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/1588/30537802.jpg)

(http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/8302/96010526.jpg)


xD
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: DLFReporter on 05-09-2011, 16:09:11
I really never noticed it.  ;D
Ah well, I guess scaling the Playermodels won't be that huge of a problem. ^^
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Musti on 05-09-2011, 16:09:42
Everything is huge in great mother russia!
i guess
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LuckyOne on 05-09-2011, 17:09:42
I really never noticed it.  ;D
Ah well, I guess scaling the Playermodels won't be that huge of a problem. ^^

Yeah it wouldn't but it will screw up the cover system totally... Also someone noted that the characters are correct size but the map objects aren't... So it will probably stay like this...

EDIT: Apparently new batch of maps is better made, and the problem is much less noticeable there... Still that's gonna take a while to fix.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: flyboy_fx on 05-09-2011, 17:09:42
Well, it is the map statics there is hope! Can't WAIT for some good mods to come!
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Wilhelm on 05-09-2011, 19:09:15
Do you have a link to the "dwarf" thread?  I cannot find it.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: DLFReporter on 05-09-2011, 19:09:41
Yeah it wouldn't but it will screw up the cover system totally... Also someone noted that the characters are correct size but the map objects aren't... So it will probably stay like this...
EDIT: Apparently new batch of maps is better made, and the problem is much less noticeable there... Still that's gonna take a while to fix.

Where is the sense in that? Correct all statics or the 12+something characters?
It goes without saying which is easier to do. ^^
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: siben on 05-09-2011, 20:09:20
After the patch my game stopped crashing every 5 minutes so i had an hour of play today. I like the relaxed realism mode to be honest.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: djinn on 05-09-2011, 20:09:54
Ah well... Ghana is blacklisted in using credit card, thanks to Nigerians operating out of it, so not possible to get it... Guess I will just wait for some Chinese kid to sprinkle it with pixie dust.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: siben on 05-09-2011, 20:09:03
Ah well... Ghana is blacklisted in using credit card, thanks to Nigerians operating out of it, so not possible to get it... Guess I will just wait for some Chinese kid to sprinkle it with pixie dust.

Now now, steam offer many options for paying, like a simple money transfer that i am sure you can do in the bank.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 05-09-2011, 20:09:35
Had my first couple of rounds.

Damn those were some expensive TF2 hats...
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LuckyOne on 05-09-2011, 20:09:54
Had my first couple of rounds.

Damn those were some expensive TF2 hats...

Why, is the game too hard for you? :P
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 05-09-2011, 20:09:48
I definitely am not part of their intended playerbase. I get annoyed by things that kill me when I cant see them and have no means of responding to them. I dont mind dying, I just like dying while fighting, not get killed by some pixel in the other side of the map. :)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: DLFReporter on 05-09-2011, 20:09:49
You have to move slowly here m8. ^^
TF2 is like playing on speed compared to RO2.  ;D
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 05-09-2011, 20:09:53
Oh I move slowly. I dont even dare to leave cover because if I show an inch of my fragile body, I will receive haul of bullets from God knows where.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: SiCaRiO on 05-09-2011, 21:09:15
my offer still stand, im willing to acept your full game once it comes out =3
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LuckyOne on 05-09-2011, 21:09:56
Oh I move slowly. I dont even dare to leave cover because if I show an inch of my fragile body, I will receive haul of bullets from God knows where.

So what's the difference between that and FH2? (apart from the lame zoom they implemented).
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 05-09-2011, 21:09:20
In FH2 I am an expert at disappearing from the scene. In RO2 I just cry in my corner because the bad men are gonna come and touch me.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Kradovech on 05-09-2011, 21:09:09
The game has a learning curve. A lot of people have the same complaints about FH2 when they first try it.

I have to say, I'm having trouble enjoying this with all the bugs that are in atm. Namely the inability to change the controls and as it turns out, to join a squad. My mind goes: "Now run! Run like you have never run before!" and my character goes: "I'm gonna lie down now!"
And this game is not meant to be played alone, squadless...
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Mr_Cheese on 05-09-2011, 22:09:57
I definitely am not part of their intended playerbase. I get annoyed by things that kill me when I cant see them and have no means of responding to them. I dont mind dying, I just like dying while fighting, not get killed by some pixel in the other side of the map. :)
I find it just makes actually killing someone all that more rewarding :)

As Krad says, the game has a learning curve: the first few lives I played as if I was playing FH2 - running from cover to cover and not carefully checking before I emerged into the open each time, consequently I died. A lot. Now I'm much more cautious and have become a lot better at picking out threats which means I last longer and usually manage to bag at least one before I get killed.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Filo90 on 06-09-2011, 12:09:36
pics:


(http://i.imgur.com/xpYh4l.jpg) (http://imgur.com/xpYh4)(http://i.imgur.com/9I93Ol.jpg) (http://imgur.com/9I93O)
(http://i.imgur.com/i2T30l.jpg) (http://imgur.com/i2T30)(http://i.imgur.com/y0bDMl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/y0bDM)
(http://i.imgur.com/xk3MRl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/xk3MR)(http://i.imgur.com/f0jLCl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/f0jLC)
(http://i.imgur.com/wHGLMl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/wHGLM)(http://i.imgur.com/Wr1rsl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/Wr1rs)
(http://i.imgur.com/uFl3Xl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/uFl3X)(http://i.imgur.com/4bFy4l.jpg) (http://imgur.com/4bFy4)
(http://i.imgur.com/JnGCXl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/JnGCX)(http://i.imgur.com/0j1TMl.jpg) (http://imgur.com/0j1TM)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: DLFReporter on 06-09-2011, 12:09:16
Oh be sure that that doesn't violate the NDA.  ;D
Btw. Your sig is too high filo90. 80px is the maximum hight on this forum. :)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Filo90 on 06-09-2011, 13:09:59
ok thanks
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: DLFReporter on 06-09-2011, 13:09:34
Thanks for resizing it. :)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: siben on 06-09-2011, 18:09:01
To be honest, i seem to play this better then FH2, at least i make kills here and do not get sniped by some rifle 400 meters away hiding in a bush.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Filo90 on 06-09-2011, 20:09:02
I think that the Forgotten hope team could do amazing things with RO2 ;D

I think that some forgotten hope artists are already in the rising storm team  ;)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Kradovech on 06-09-2011, 21:09:35
Despite all the bugs, I´m getting more and more sucked into this.

A few tips to avoid frustration that I figured out:
*play other gamemodes than conquest(or whatever they call it in RO), the ones that that don't allow constant respawning (I forget what they are called) Although they punish dieing more severly, I found these gamemodes easier to start with. You know the general direction of the enemy and can avoid getting killed from god knows where
*If you do play conquest, start with a small server, 32 players max. You can go 64 once you have learned the main mechanics and know your way around the maps a bit.
*Don't stay near windows longer than it takes to fire one or two shots. Constant relocation is key in this game.
* When you become under fire from an unknown location, get out of there. Fight the urge to try and return fire from that same position. The enemy has a clear advantage over you in a situation like this and you are likely to end up dead in 2 seconds.

These rather simple princibles helped me enjoy this game so much more, even though I´m at a disadvantage here with my struggle with the controls.

One final thought: gameplay varies a lot from server to server, there are a lot more settings than just realism and relaxed. If you are not enjoying yourself, try another server.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Hjaldrgud on 07-09-2011, 12:09:52
(http://i53.tinypic.com/sdcmcy.jpg)
feelsgoodman.jpg

I HAD to buy it! See you guys in Stalingrad!
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: DLFReporter on 07-09-2011, 13:09:30
You should be banned and shot for your heresy you know... :-X
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Hjaldrgud on 07-09-2011, 13:09:21
Uups  8)

EDIT:
Now I have played the beta for two hours. Wow. It's real fun, but molests my comp. I'm having around 30-50 fps on low.  You might think "30-40" fps aint so bad, but let me tell you something: This game looks like HL1 on low graphics, but only then is it playable for me. I need an upgrade, I can enjoy beautiful graphics like on the screenshots. And there is some bugs in this game. But I guess the devs will put some love in it and fix it.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LHeureux on 07-09-2011, 22:09:46
Uups  8)

EDIT:
Now I have played the beta for two hours. Wow. It's real fun, but molests my comp. I'm having around 30-50 fps on low.  You might think "30-40" fps aint so bad, but let me tell you something: This game looks like HL1 on low graphics, but only then is it playable for me. I need an upgrade, I can enjoy beautiful graphics like on the screenshots. And there is some bugs in this game. But I guess the devs will put some love in it and fix it.
Of course there's bugs! It's a BETA
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Hjaldrgud on 08-09-2011, 01:09:38
good point, sir.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: G.Drew on 09-09-2011, 04:09:13
Red Orchestra Update September 8th
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-New maps (Commissar's House, Station, Spartanovka, Pavlov's House)
-Client Performance Optimizations
-Client and Server crash fixes
-Improvements to hit detection
-Punkbuster Anti-Cheat can now be used by servers and is on by default
-Added enable PunkBuster setting and PunkBuster disabled warning in Server Browser
-Removed the ability to swap teams from the class select menu. Instead, there is now a button to open the team select menu. This will reduce some confusing 'Role is taken' messages.
-Adjustments to weapon unlocks for each class. Veteran marksman now unlock semi auto sniper rifles, veteran anti-tank now unlock satchels, and more.
-RO1 players will now get automatic bayonet upgrades for the Kar98 and Mosin rifle without needing to level these weapons first.
-Mid-game map voting will now immediately change maps if enough players vote.
-Fixed some reloading issues for weapons with stripper clips (G41, Kar98, etc)
-Fixed problems with enemy spotted from inside a tank
-Fixed occasionally seeing your dead self with no head or arms
-Fixed an exploit with cover allowing super speedy firing for rifles
-Fixed getting stuck inside geometry in some places when mantling
-Fixed glitchy camera view when rotating into a wall while prone
-Fixed an issue with map boundaries during Firefight sudden death
-Several spawning bugs squashed
-Fixed some issues with player progression
-Added sorting by column to the Server Browser
-Fixed server crashing due to Steamworks not being properly cleaned up
-Fixed server crashing when using PunkBuster UCON system
-Fixed Ranked vs. Unranked issues. It really works this time. Really Really
-Fixed some Spawning and Role Selection issues
-Fixed VOIP notifications not appearing and often crossing Public/Team channels
Video Settings menu refinement
-Added ability to cancel changes
-Exposed Ultra texture quality settings to only machines that have enough memory
-New Occlusion Culling Graphical Setting - higher setting will have less object "pop-in" but be slow (original default in previous beta), normal setting will run better but have a bit more object "pop-in" (New default). Will provide significantly better frame rates on normal setting.
-The maximum video setting a system will be assigned on startup is high.
-Added MaxAnisotropy of 16 to Ultra texture settings
-Added 'stat perfdump' console command to get better information about poor performance people are seeing.
-Memory Optimization for 32 bit machines.
-Fixed exploit of glowing characters on low shadow settings
-Ping now shows in the scoreboard
-Fixed binoculars not working properly when a non-standard ironsights FOV was set on rifles
-Modified network relevancy checking to reduce characters popping in
-Added the ability to enable and disable VAC for servers on the commandline (overrides what is in the ini files). To enable VAC add the switch -VACSECURED to your commandline. To disable VAC add -NOVAC to your commandline.
-Added the ability to override the automatically calculated Steam query port. Use SteamPort= on your commandline. Note: Has not been heavily tested, use at your own risk
-Fixed an issue with AI swapping positions while a player was dead and waiting to take over positions in a tank. This made it appear that some positions were "coming back to life"
-Fixed some vehicle AI bugs
-Fixed not being able to kill the hull MGer or tank gunner in the Panzer IV if they were a human player
-Created an intelligent system to grab bullet from partial clips before moving on to whole clips. This prevents you from ending up with all of your clips having just a few rounds missing.
-Fixed getting bullet whizzed by guys that are not even facing you (I.e. shooting away from you). Also fixed double replication of some hit impacts/bullet whizzes.
-Refined speedhack detection to have less false positives.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LuckyOne on 09-09-2011, 22:09:19
I managed to snatch a beta key from this giveaway: http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=61626

So see ya all in Stalingrad!   :D (In some 8 hours when my download finishes...  :()
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Kradovech on 10-09-2011, 09:09:13
This last patch seems to completely fucked up my server browser: It shows the incorrect amount of people on the servers. Most of the time I end up in an empty server.

Update on my inability to cahnge control setup: I installed the game on my laptop (It actually works rather well on medium settings), remapped my keys there and then copied all the config files under my documents to my PC. It changed my video settings from high to medium (the only settings that I could change beforehand anyway), but everything else just remained default, so at some point the game must have overwritten the config files. Rather annoying. I will probably have to make a new email account so I can register on their forums.

ADDED: Ok, a fix for this was posted yesterday:
Quote
If your menus are blank, please disable AA/AF in your driver control panel and set it to Application Controlled.
Seems to work with the setup menus at least, will try it ingame later today.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: DLFReporter on 10-09-2011, 11:09:43
Hey Kardo, sounds like they listened to you. :)
Quote
Fixed an issue where some existing config files were not getting updated so they were having bad data.

Tripwire Forum (http://"http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=61837")
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Zrix on 10-09-2011, 19:09:51
This last patch seems to completely fucked up my server browser: It shows the incorrect amount of people on the servers. Most of the time I end up in an empty server.
Doubleclicking takes you to a different server. Select a server and press 'Connect' and it should work.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Thorondor123 on 10-09-2011, 19:09:05
This last patch seems to completely fucked up my server browser: It shows the incorrect amount of people on the servers. Most of the time I end up in an empty server.
Doubleclicking takes you to a different server. Select a server and press 'Connect' and it should work.
Even that took me to an empty server last night :/
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LuckyOne on 11-09-2011, 15:09:01
This last patch seems to completely fucked up my server browser: It shows the incorrect amount of people on the servers. Most of the time I end up in an empty server.
Doubleclicking takes you to a different server. Select a server and press 'Connect' and it should work.
Even that took me to an empty server last night :/

Yust ended up on a Japanese server instead of an Italian one... W T F?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 11-09-2011, 22:09:51
I have been playing the beta, aswel.

This is a rather nice game. The infantry combat is nice and it feels like i am playing that good old Call of duty online.

Still, the game is rather laggy and buggy. I know many fixes have been made and ready for the release, but it is rather meh for the beta.

Balance wise it seems rather nice. Exept for the MP40...Wich is vastly superior to the PPSH in EVERY way..close combat, long range combat..It is more powerfull, more accurate..AKA better in everything. Only a 5 round bigger magazine is your advantage for the PPSH(drum mag needs to be unlocked)

If you buy a WW2 game for absolute historical accuracy..then you wont like a few things. Namely the weapons... Its the MK412 (Czech entry for the MP44 program) and AVT40 wich will ruin people there days.(Note AVT-40 is the full automatic version of SVT-40, and the SVT-40 was present in very large numbers already in the beginning of WW2)

Seeing the G41(w) is nice. But seeing it almost always...it is rather weird  ;D i wish i could also manually recock the rifle with Gewehr 41 :(  i did it once with a Gewehr 41 i saw at waver militaria fair...it is SUCH A SEXY FEELING
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Ts4EVER on 11-09-2011, 23:09:11
Its the MK412 (Czech entry for the MP44 program) and AVT40 wich will ruin people there days.

The fuck you talking about? They have the MKB42 which is simply the StG44 prototype. What would a "czech entry" be???
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 11-09-2011, 23:09:44
Its the MK412 (Czech entry for the MP44 program) and AVT40 wich will ruin people there days.

The fuck you talking about? They have the MKB42 which is simply the StG44 prototype. What would a "czech entry" be???
That was the czech entry IIRC?

fuck i think i have it confused with something else, it was a czech assault rifle also made during the same time of the STG44. it was a competitor aswel..and it had such a simular naming
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Ts4EVER on 12-09-2011, 00:09:01
Its the MK412 (Czech entry for the MP44 program) and AVT40 wich will ruin people there days.

The fuck you talking about? They have the MKB42 which is simply the StG44 prototype. What would a "czech entry" be???
That was the czech entry IIRC?

fuck i think i have it confused with something else, it was a czech assault rifle also made during the same time of the STG44. it was a competitor aswel..and it had such a simular naming

Never heard about that. There were two prototypes tested, MKB42(H) and MKB42(W).
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Ciupita on 12-09-2011, 14:09:03
Its the MK412 (Czech entry for the MP44 program) and AVT40 wich will ruin people there days.

The fuck you talking about? They have the MKB42 which is simply the StG44 prototype. What would a "czech entry" be???
That was the czech entry IIRC?

fuck i think i have it confused with something else, it was a czech assault rifle also made during the same time of the STG44. it was a competitor aswel..and it had such a simular naming

Never heard about that. There were two prototypes tested, MKB42(H) and MKB42(W).

And both are german. Walther and Haenel
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 13-09-2011, 19:09:39
It was in SAM weapon magazine, ill see if i can find it again

The calibre was 8x33 and then a funny name
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: FatJoe on 14-09-2011, 13:09:56
Just tried it yesterday..

.. I approve!
Hope to see some of you guys online. I'll be looking through our community page to see who's playing, I might join some of you ;)

If you're not part of our Steam FH Community, check it out here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/fhcommunity
;)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 14-09-2011, 13:09:43
Just tried it yesterday..

.. I approve!
Hope to see some of you guys online. I'll be looking through our community page to see who's playing, I might join some of you ;)

If you're not part of our Steam FH Community, check it out here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/fhcommunity
;)
There's still alot of performance issues to solve, but ye,

Adjustable rear sights
replacable barrels for MG's

Its very nice
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Sander93 on 14-09-2011, 14:09:33
Any word yet on demo / free play weekend? I still want to try it out first before buying it.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 14-09-2011, 14:09:11
Someone from the Dev team said a while ago that they´ll have a free to play weekend shortly after the release.

The game is really good, sometimes really frustrating, but for some odd reason I had better FPS in the Beta built than I do have now. I was able to play the game with most settings on "high" and now I had to turn everything down, just to get something around 30 FPS, sometimes even less.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Eat Uranium on 14-09-2011, 14:09:50
Guess I'll find out next week when my copy arrives.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LHeureux on 14-09-2011, 14:09:36
I hate this game. Makes me rage so much. You don't have control in game that's what annoys me.  :-\

You die, try to select your spawn point - BOOM FORCE SPAWNED BY COMMANDER.
You die, try to select your spawn point and/or click ready - TOO LATE YOU MISSED THE SPAWN
Allies or axis capture a spawn point? - BOOM full of HUD shits appears on the screen and confuse you

Unreal Engine SUCKS when it comes to textures it's crazy. You have the ugly texture loads, wich I always hated and the textures in overall go from nice to FREAKING UGLY and low quality. There's too much sluttering on surfaces, even with AA at ULTRA, look the fences on Spartnovka how they're ugly.

Being myself a big RO1 player I know that RO2 will be better in 6 months or so. But right now I just can't stand it. RO1 Vanilla was boring, DH was awesome. DH brang so much more, like catching on fire when close to an exploding vehicle, falling on the ground when being hit in the foot, new supression system, new penetration system for tanks, huge tanking fixes, etc.

I'll wait for Rising Storm I think. Cause right now RO2 is buggy, quite ugly on the textures, and annoying. I knew I would not really like it since I played the BETA, but I mainly paid 40$, wich is a good price, for the mods and community addons. I agree that Tripwire is a good company but I don't really "like" their work, I mean, RO1 was cool but it really started to lack content, good thing RO1 had Darkest Hour, and many players base their experience from DH and WERE SURE that RO2 would be like DH more than RO1. That's sad.

Right now I'm going to play FH2 wich give me way more immersion and that isn't buggy and where I have control on what happen. AND where the textures have a nice render  ::)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 14-09-2011, 16:09:48
For a gaming studio the size of TW this is an amazing achievement. This game will be great and miracle, but not now. The devs know the cause, they just need the time to fix it.

This game has so much epic stuff

-Adjustable rear sights
-Scope and iron sights toggeling on a sniper
-Replacable barrels on MG34(does DP28 also has this?)
-Deployable MG's everywhere

Furthermore, since this is stalingrad i do hope they plan to add other axis nations. Like the Italians,hungarians and Romanians. They fought on the outskirts, but thats still part of "Stalingrad". And there was some hinting in the forums.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 14-09-2011, 17:09:21
AFAIK a mod involving the Hungarians has already been announced and is currently in development.
And btw, I now have native voices (although Russians still speak English because I don´t understand Russian and I don´t want to miss out the battle chatter) and it really helps to improve immersion.
Has someone unlocked any weapons, such as the TT33, already?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: ajappat on 14-09-2011, 18:09:16
Yay! Back home from army and red orchestra already downloaded earlier by my brother. 4 days of RO2 carnage  ;D 8) ;D
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: flyboy_fx on 14-09-2011, 18:09:36
Should I pick it up at gamestop today? Is it pretty good? I mean, it is only a $40 game so... :P
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: ajappat on 14-09-2011, 19:09:14
Ok I after trying I quess I'll wait for few patches  >:( :o
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LuckyOne on 14-09-2011, 19:09:29
Should I pick it up at gamestop today? Is it pretty good? I mean, it is only a $40 game so... :P

 Yeah go for it! It WILL be a great game when they are done fixing it... Or you can wait for the free to play weekend deal to try it out...
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: flyboy_fx on 14-09-2011, 20:09:08
Already preodered so I buy it today or never. :P
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: G.Drew on 14-09-2011, 20:09:22
Well after playing an hour or so today and playing about 50 hours in the beta, the game seems to have gone backwards. There is so much shit wrong with it atm I refuse to play it. For example, my stats arent working, even though they did in the beta.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: siben on 14-09-2011, 20:09:42
Well after playing an hour or so today and playing about 50 hours in the beta, the game seems to have gone backwards. There is so much shit wrong with it atm I refuse to play it. For example, my stats arent working, even though they did in the beta.

Was it ranked server? Maybe it takes a few hours to update, or it auto updates once a day?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: G.Drew on 14-09-2011, 20:09:31
It is confirmed atm that stats are not being recorded for some players, and I only play on ranked servers.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: ajappat on 14-09-2011, 21:09:19
I have weird bug that everything is like over lighted, bright. Even menus are super bright and I can't see my cursor in menu.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 14-09-2011, 21:09:34
Well after playing an hour or so today and playing about 50 hours in the beta, the game seems to have gone backwards. There is so much shit wrong with it atm I refuse to play it. For example, my stats arent working, even though they did in the beta.
Seconded. Its a great game, but its currently like a car with a broken engine. Fix it and this game might be worth the go
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Fuchs on 14-09-2011, 22:09:25
Just wait and relax. Most games start broken but end up real good. Look at Hearts of Iron 3, a game I only learned to play a couple of days a go, but from other people I know that the game was utter shit when it was released. I really like it now, only spotted very few bugs.

Meanwhile I'll fire up the download tomorrow and play the SP campaign.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Zrix on 14-09-2011, 23:09:37
Multi-crewing tank fail.

(http://l0lwut.com/f/z/pics/screenshots/ro2_tankfail_01_s.jpg) (http://l0lwut.com/f/z/pics/screenshots/ro2_tankfail_01.jpg)

(http://l0lwut.com/f/z/pics/screenshots/ro2_tankfail_02_s.jpg) (http://l0lwut.com/f/z/pics/screenshots/ro2_tankfail_02.jpg)


Hull gunner, Y U NO inside the tank?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LuckyOne on 14-09-2011, 23:09:46

Hull gunner, Y U NO inside the tank?

He probably became too claustrophobic by having to look through this tiny little hole in the hull so he decided he's better off making snow angels :P...
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 15-09-2011, 00:09:54
I had my first good rounds today. The server wassent filled with many players, thus there was no lag. As fuchs says, once this game is fixed, it will be a beautifull gem
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: flyboy_fx on 15-09-2011, 05:09:57
Hay, the boxed version comes with RO1, the bayonets, and some sort of medals. STEAM SUCKS!  ;D

Well, lets try playing on LOW. :| At least I have RO1. xD
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: flyboy_fx on 15-09-2011, 05:09:51
Spoke too soon... Makes you DL steam... Damn :|
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Eat Uranium on 15-09-2011, 05:09:32
Hay, the boxed version comes with RO1, the bayonets, and some sort of medals. STEAM SUCKS!  ;D

Well, lets try playing on LOW. :| At least I have RO1. xD
Was that some special version of the box or just the normal?  My box doesn't get shipped until Friday for some reason, still, I can't complain since I save a fiver compared to Steam AND get a physical copy.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: flyboy_fx on 15-09-2011, 06:09:21
Just regular boxed!
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: ajappat on 15-09-2011, 07:09:38
Normal steam version comes with bayonets and badges too. And there was 20% discount for people who already own RO1. Suck that flyboy  ;D
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: flyboy_fx on 15-09-2011, 07:09:14
Bleh.
Just DLed it... My comp probably hates it! xD First map loads and the sky is all black. 0_0
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: flyboy_fx on 15-09-2011, 08:09:27
This stinks. A few others are having same problem. :|

(http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo324/flyboy_fx/RO2problem.jpg)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LuckyOne on 15-09-2011, 09:09:26
^ LoL that's even more annoying than my constant 20-30 FPS in the beta...

I just hope they fix it until my copy arrives (ordered through a friend so it's gonna take a while).
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: DLFReporter on 15-09-2011, 10:09:59
^ LoL that's even more annoying than my constant 20-30 FPS in the beta...

I just hope they fix it until my copy arrives (ordered through a friend so it's gonna take a while).

A good tip is to reduce the shadow quality to medium. This gives you another 20FPS on any system. :)

@Flyboy, are you playing on all low?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 15-09-2011, 11:09:26
Hay, the boxed version comes with RO1, the bayonets, and some sort of medals. STEAM SUCKS!  ;D

Well, lets try playing on LOW. :| At least I have RO1. xD
my limited edition costs as much as the regular boxed edition, and i get all that you mentioned with 4 extra weapons and 2 TF2 hats!
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 15-09-2011, 12:09:39
Here´s (http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=63374) an overview of tweaks you can do to improve FPS, performance and other problems.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 15-09-2011, 12:09:43
Here´s (http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=63374) an overview of tweaks you can do to improve FPS, performance and other problems.
Omg homerjay you deserve einen medal! Good one kamerad!

I finnaly no longer lag when firing MG34  ;D

Edit=The diffrence is indeed huge. Before when i was burst firing with my MG34, i always god a lagspike after that. Its gone now  ;D ;D
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 15-09-2011, 13:09:04
It´s ok, Comrade! :D
Some of these tricks really helped improving FPS, especially turning off frame rate smoothing and frame thread lag. I still run the game with arounf 30 to 40 FPS (sometimes even less), but I´m going to get a new desktop PC today, anyway.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: 9.Pz Benz on 15-09-2011, 13:09:38
It´s ok, Comrade! :D
Some of these tricks really helped improving FPS, especially turning off frame rate smoothing and frame thread lag. I still run the game with arounf 30 to 40 FPS (sometimes even less), but I´m going to get a new desktop PC today, anyway.

Test it out on our RO2 server Homer  ;)

(http://cache.www.gametracker.com/server_info/109.70.149.161:7799/b_560_95_1.png) (http://www.gametracker.com/server_info/109.70.149.161:7799/)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: G.Drew on 15-09-2011, 14:09:55
Finally got my stat recording working, on an official TWI server...
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: 9.Pz Benz on 15-09-2011, 14:09:46
Finally got my stat recording working, on an official TWI server...

Weird, should be working on all ranked servers. At least it works fine for me.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LHeureux on 15-09-2011, 15:09:50
My specs are...
AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 4600
2.4Ghz, 3.00 GB ram
Nvidia Gforce 7600GT
Think I can run it?
With a better graphic card you could run it at medium with some low and like 1 high setting. I got a 9800GT and 2 GB ram (wich is less than you) and I can run it like this.
I said it flyboy, don't be surprised if you lag or have problems with your crappy card. You really need to change it. And maybe the processor too, overcloak it at least :P
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: flyboy_fx on 15-09-2011, 17:09:47
It is overclocked. It runs perfect!!! on medium, just the black sky thing. Other users with BETTER cards are having the problem too.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: flyboy_fx on 15-09-2011, 17:09:56
^ LoL that's even more annoying than my constant 20-30 FPS in the beta...

I just hope they fix it until my copy arrives (ordered through a friend so it's gonna take a while).

A good tip is to reduce the shadow quality to medium. This gives you another 20FPS on any system. :)

@Flyboy, are you playing on all low?

I tried all low in the pic, nothing worked. Others having same problems too.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: flyboy_fx on 15-09-2011, 18:09:51
Reading more on the TWI forums. Seams like it is an Nvidia problem. :|
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 15-09-2011, 18:09:10
stats arent working here :(
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: ajappat on 15-09-2011, 22:09:00
stats arent working here :(
Yeah, would be nice to get them working. Feels bit pointless to play, heck, even FH2 feels pointless to play on non ranked server...
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: flyboy_fx on 15-09-2011, 23:09:10
stats arent working here :(
Yeah, would be nice to get them working. Feels bit pointless to play, heck, even FH2 feels pointless to play on non ranked server...

It does. LOL
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Hjaldrgud on 16-09-2011, 02:09:56
Man, the MKb-42... Is a beast of a gun! It is OP, but it is so nice.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: ajappat on 16-09-2011, 08:09:54
Tripwire just failed with last patch. Earlier not even deluxe preorder people could use their fancy weapons and now everyone can. Even me with regular preorder game.  ::). This patch didn't actually fix anything that was affecting me.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Ajs47951 on 16-09-2011, 08:09:04
Imo the game sucks, 5/10. Seems like they rushed it. Overall the game is just so uninspiring that I uninstalled it past mission 3. It's horrible, so much hype for nothing.
 :'(
and the really sad thing is this game is so bad im getting like 20 -25 fps on 2 Nvida 580Ti in SlI :o
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: ajappat on 16-09-2011, 08:09:29
Imo the game sucks, 5/10. Seems like they rushed it. Overall the game is just so uninspiring that I uninstalled it past mission 3. It's horrible, so much hype for nothing.
 :'(
and the really sad thing is this game is so bad im getting like 20 -25 fps on 2 Nvida 580Ti in SlI :o
'just like FH2, it's not really meant for SP, even tough there is such thing.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 16-09-2011, 09:09:53
another big performance booster is to disable steam ingame community. you wont be able to talk, but it saves 15-20 extra FPS

Steam/settings/ingame
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Kradovech on 16-09-2011, 09:09:21
As expected, the single player is a joke. In a game like this teamwork is essential, which means the AI needs to be exeptional for single player. It is not, it is infact quite awful. Right now, the singleplayer experience is similar to the one in bf1942 - it is not 100% unenjoyable, its just multiplayer is 10 times better.
If you plan to buy this game for the single player - DON'T. You will not be happy with it.

I have to say, the game runs a bit better than the latest beta patch (I haven't yet tried the patch released today). I personally don't give 2 fucks about the stats so them not working is not a problem for me. I have to admit, it still feels like a beta, rather than a released game, but since it is tripwire we are dealing with,  I'm willing to forgive them and I have full faith in them to fix everything in the upcoming months.

Apart from the bugs, my biggest gripe is the unplayerfriendly menus. Namely choosing a spawn is a pain in the ass - it doesn't remember your last spawn point so you have to choose it every time, sometimes in a few seconds. The default spawn should be the squadleader, not the farthest spot from the action. And speaking of the squad system, it is not working. Most of the time I don't have a clue who are in my squad. Spawning on squadleader makes you spawn in the strangest places. I like that they made it so that squads have realistic roles- 1MG, 1 elite rifleman, some assault and the rest regular rifleman. However they totally fucked it up by allowing so many squads to be created. Most of the time the only spots occupied are the "special classes", while nobody is playing the most common class - the rifleman.

But even with all these issues, I'm enjoying the game.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: DLFReporter on 16-09-2011, 09:09:33
... I have to admit, it still feels like a beta, rather than a released game, but since it is tripwire we are dealing with,  I'm willing to forgive them and I have full faith in them to fix everything in the upcoming months.

That's the right sentiment to this game. They've had a lot of ambitions and managed to achieve quite a lot with RO2 and everything that is still amiss will be taken care of. Either by them, or by the great community thanks to the SDK.

... And speaking of the squad system, it is not working. Most of the time I don't have a clue who are in my squad. Spawning on squadleader makes you spawn in the strangest places.
So true, it's especially bad, when your SL is hiding behind cover. ^^
You can see squad-mates by their green nametags, FT Numbers and green dots on the minimap.
 
I like that they made it so that squads have realistic roles- 1MG, 1 elite rifleman, some assault and the rest regular rifleman. However they totally fucked it up by allowing so many squads to be created. Most of the time the only spots occupied are the "special classes", while nobody is playing the most common class - the rifleman.

That's true, I guess they will correcting the number of squads on 64player servers. In my opinion the game is best enjoyed with 32players, everything else is just chaos and generally no fun on the smaller maps.

But even with all these issues, I'm enjoying the game.

Amen to that, it such intense moments. They get even intenser when you play without TS3 (I guess mumble would be awesome for this game), as the sounds and the atmosphere is so awesome. ^^
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 16-09-2011, 09:09:53
it is nice indeed for the kit selection

19 riflemen
5 assault
2 riflemen elite (semi-auto rifles) however the soviets should get a third spot for this. 100 000 G41's VS 1.6 million SVT40's(at start of ww2) means something
2 machinegunners(Should be 3)
4 squadleaders
1 commander

In the end, bolt action rifles are the one's you will encounter the most. I like that. And you will see me most of the time also with a Trusty K98k or a Accurate mosin nagant
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 16-09-2011, 10:09:27
Sooo, about that new patch...why the hell does the assault class get those "heroe" unlock weapons? I thought they´d be super rare (IIRC one of the Devs said they´d available only once per map and for heroes only), why does everyone, who preordered the DDE now run around with it?
On the bright side, artillery no longer kills my FPS, which is nice. The stats system seems to be still bugged, though.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 16-09-2011, 10:09:25
Yeah this is getting ridiculous

On a 64 player server, 16 people can be armed with a MKB42 or AVT40

The AVT40 is powerfull but acceptable, but the MKB42 is completly OP. That weapon is as powerfull and accurate as MG34, easier and better to use as MP40...Its completly ruining games.

1 of these weapons per team is the absolute maximum, i cant wait for the first servers who forbid these weapons
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: ajappat on 16-09-2011, 11:09:22
why does everyone, who preordered the DDE now run around with it?
Not only those who preordered deluxe edition. I didn't and I still have those weapons.

Edit: Do you guys think, that PPSH totally sucks. It's got higher recoil than MG when shot without rest.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 16-09-2011, 11:09:38
PPSH has to much recoil indeed. The DP28 also has it. The MG34 and MP40 completly dominate it in every single way.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 16-09-2011, 11:09:28
Not only those who preordered deluxe edition. I didn't and I still have those weapons.

Edit: Do you guys think, that PPSH totally sucks. It's got higher recoil than MG when shot without rest.
Oh wow, didn´t knew that. That sucks pretty bad. TWI needs to get their shit together or they´ll scare off their older fans...I´ve often been accused of being a TWI "fanboy", but stuff like that makes me wonder what´s going on in their minds...
Someone made the suggestion that the "hero" weapons should be limited to 1 per side and they should be handed out with field commisions. IMO that sounds like a good plan and it would reeinforce their "hero status".
I actually like the PPSh. It´s tough to master, but once you got the hang of it it´s even on longer ranges really devastating. I also prefer the DP28 over the MG34. :P
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 16-09-2011, 11:09:39
if only the MK42b dint ruined this game so much  :(
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: DLFReporter on 16-09-2011, 11:09:30
Axis Bias Meme in 3...2...1...   ;D

But you are right, I'd like to see the MP40 be nerfed to the PPSH standard, even if it isn't historically accurate, for the sake of gameplay it would help a lot.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 16-09-2011, 11:09:40
If the PPSH is made superior to the MP40(wich it should) then the MG34 should remain as it is, superior to the DP28(As it should)

but the MP40 issent my main concern, the MK42/AVT40 spam is.

I am only using my trusty Mosin/kar98 from now on. Okay and SVT/G41  ;D
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: DLFReporter on 16-09-2011, 11:09:27
SVT/G41 ftw! ^^
But wasn't the PPSH less accurate on distances, but had a higher ROF than the MP40?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 16-09-2011, 11:09:14
SVT/G41 ftw! ^^
But wasn't the PPSH less accurate on distances, but had a higher ROF than the MP40?
The 7.62x25 tokarov is balistically much better then a 9x19 parabellum yes

The MP40 had a Muzzle velocity of 380 M/S, the PPSH had one of 488 M/S
While in theory the PPSH should have less recoil, it has simular recoil to a MP40.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq63GlFiCKE&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O38a_Bx18RU


The PPSH dominated the MP40 just like a Tiger tank dominated a 75mm sherman, a T34...A stuart!
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 16-09-2011, 13:09:27
I´ve got to agree with Theta on the MKB42. It´s really, really overpowered and makes most of the German weapons redundant. The AVT is alright, since except for pretty short ranges the fully-automatic mode is useless, so in the end it´s just another semi-auto rifle.
I´m also a bit disappointed that TWI was using these "hero" weapons as marketing effect for their DDE, but now everyone can use those. Not that I got the DDE for the weapons (infact, I only paid 23 Euros for it, so I´m the last person to complain about having paid too much), but I can understand people bitching about that fraud. Also seeing them in such masses kinda defeats the whole "hero" thing...I´m waiting for an official statement, though and still hope that they´ll correct it.
Oh, and the stats system is still terribly bugged. I was on Lvl14 for a long time and now I´m back to Lvl7. o0
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: DLFReporter on 16-09-2011, 13:09:18
...
I´m also a bit disappointed that TWI was using these "hero" weapons as marketing effect for their DDE, but now everyone can use those. Not that I got the DDE for the weapons (infact, I only paid 23 Euros for it, so I´m the last person to complain about having paid too much), but I can understand people bitching about that fraud. Also seeing them in such masses kinda defeats the whole "hero" thing...I´m waiting for an official statement, though and still hope that they´ll correct it....

Why is it a 'fraud'? With the DDE you gain early access to the Hero weapons and the SVT/G41. Seeing how many people bought the DDE it's just what could have been expected. ^^
I believe once the Stats system is up and running without glitches, things will pan out. Getting the Hero slot with a  battlefield commission is a great suggestion and should be considered by TWI. That commission thing is brilliant! ^^
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: ajappat on 16-09-2011, 13:09:33
You think it isn't fraud that ALL people can use them? I would feel I payed for nothing if I was owner of deluxe edition...
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 16-09-2011, 13:09:50

Why is it a 'fraud'? With the DDE you gain early access to the Hero weapons and the SVT/G41. Seeing how many people bought the DDE it's just what could have been expected. ^^
I believe once the Stats system is up and running without glitches, things will pan out. Getting the Hero slot with a  battlefield commission is a great suggestion and should be considered by TWI. That commission thing is brilliant! ^^

Many people who didn´t buy the DDE can still use the "hero" weapons, even though they didn´t unlock them. "Day-1 access" of those weapons was used to promote the DDE and seeing people playing with them, even though they´ve neither unlocked them nor paid for early access feels like...fraud? A little bit atleast. ^^
I really hope they look into the battlefield commision suggestion, too because by doing this they´d avoid that the fastest guy in the team always spawns with said guns and bonuses.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: DLFReporter on 16-09-2011, 13:09:27
As I said, once the stat system works this will be gone.
TWI is not DICE or any other big studio, I'll give them a lot of credit for what they made. The people who are all raging and shitstoming at the moment just have to get laid. My god, they paid half of what is charged for MW3 and want double the content...
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: G.Drew on 16-09-2011, 13:09:27
The problem is have is that there is ALOT of kits that can use these weapons: Assault, SL and TL. the numbers vary depending on the max numbers but basically just under half of the team can be armed with a weapon that didnt see action until 1944 :(
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hitm4k3r on 16-09-2011, 14:09:41
Until now, I only played the SP to get a feeling for the game mechanics and mainly to get a comparisson to RO1 concerning the behavior of the weapons. Really interesting was the shooting range. It seems, that you can snipe with the MP40 at very long ranges, what feels a littlebit unrealistic. Weren't SMG's designed for an effective range of 50 meters? On the shooting range you can easily hit a target in about 150 - 200 meter with the MP40 without any problem. Also very interesting is the singleshot of the MG34. You can snap out enemies much more accurate, than with a G41 or STV and you have much more ammunition. Overheating seems not so much a problem, than in RO1. Tank combat is phenomenal also in SP. You have really the feeling, that you are using a tank and the interieur and all this stuff adds a lot of immersion. The blood inside your tank, when somebody in the tank gets hit makes the feeling much more cruel and the athmosphere of the game is in general very intense - there is simply no other game with such a good athmosphere. Although I have to say, that the tankfigths are over much too fast. To kill a T34 frontally with one or two shoots seems a littlebit senseless. After five minutes you can easily kill a T34 with two shoots and you know the soft spots. Tank combat was much harder in RO1. It was also very interesting to shoot at T34 with the AT rifle. A T34 is down after two shoots on the engine block from the side at a range of 200 - 250 meter.

Btw: The SP is a pain if you play on hero difficulty. You get sniped over very long ranges and the fights are demanding everything from the player. Sometimes a mission is over after 30 seconds - the trainyard mission on the german side was hard as hell - i tried it ten times or so. The friendly AI is next to non existend what makes it even more difficult, because the enemy AI acts alot better. They flank you and bash you from behind with there melee attacks. They also remind your last position and will try to get to your side or rear the next time. If you consider, that all of the actions of the AI aren't really scripted as for example in COD, than I get to the conclusion, that this design of SP's should be the future for FPS in general. When I look at CoD or BF3 I could fall into sleep, because it is not a real challenge to play the SP.
If they get the SP to a standard as for example in Brothers in Arms, I see good times. Most of the AI actions are unscripted and dependend on the situation. Thats how I like it. It feels different, everytime you play it.

All in all, I have to say, that RO2 is much more arcadic than RO1 and brings back old memories of CoD UO. The game has a lot of potential and if TWI will get their stuff togehter I think it will get a worth sequel to RO1. A big bonus is the active support of the community and I have the faith into TWI, that they will make this game as good as RO1. RO is a longtime project and not fastfood as for example MW. So I am really looking forward to this game. :)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 16-09-2011, 14:09:44
MP40 vs PPSH needs to be fixed

MKB42/avt needs to be limited to 1 per team

Then this game will be awesome
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 16-09-2011, 17:09:21
As I said, once the stat system works this will be gone.
TWI is not DICE or any other big studio, I'll give them a lot of credit for what they made. The people who are all raging and shitstoming at the moment just have to get laid. My god, they paid half of what is charged for MW3 and want double the content...
Well, if I pay for something that´s being promised exclusively to me because I paid more and others who, paid less will get it as well it is kinda unfair, doesn´t matter if it´s a 5 Euro Pizza or a 500 Euro TV screen, so I can really understand the people raging hard about that(it´s "interesting" that you know about their sex life, though).
Don´t get me wrong, I still have trust in TWI because I know where they come from and what they´ve done, but it´s just irritating to have these ultra-rare weapons, which they promised would be ultra-rare in the hands of so many players and at the same time doing things that anger their community. I sincerely hope they get all those problems solved.
IMO the game is really, really good, I would even say it´s the FPS of the year, but at the moment it has a hard time living up the communities expectations, because of all those tiny things that make it hard to love.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Natty on 16-09-2011, 19:09:14
shooting from the hip, I would guess that they realized that it's better that they design the game as they want, than to listen to too many loudmouth minorities on the interwebz. Probably because they think it's more interesting to design a good game than to please a bunch of dudes who count number of certain weapons on a server  ::)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LuckyOne on 16-09-2011, 19:09:39
shooting from the hip, I would guess that they realized that it's better that they design the game as they want, than to listen to too many loudmouth minorities on the interwebz. Probably because they think it's more interesting to design a good game than to please a bunch of dudes who count number of certain weapons on a server  ::)

Look, even the FH team puts limited kits and rare pickup kits in-game to reflect historical availability. What the TWI guys did is pure blasphemy. First of all, they included a weapon that was possibly never actually used in Stalingrad, and then they gave it to every noob and his mom. That's pure bull****.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: flyboy_fx on 16-09-2011, 19:09:49
I think it is fun.  ;D

Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Natty on 16-09-2011, 19:09:09
now the fact starts to dawn on you... just because you think WW2 is interesting, doesnt mean you know how to design and (more importantly) produce a game.

I think they know better how to do this  8)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 16-09-2011, 19:09:39
shooting from the hip, I would guess that they realized that it's better that they design the game as they want, than to listen to too many loudmouth minorities on the interwebz. Probably because they think it's more interesting to design a good game than to please a bunch of dudes who count number of certain weapons on a server  ::)
"Shooting from the hip" is not a really accurate shooting stance. Maybe think about that before you try to "diss" "loudmouth minorities (from where do you get the idea that it´s a minority, anyway? do you have any numbers?) on the internetz" who "count number of certain weapons on a server" (which is infact an important gameplay issue).
I know the EA/DICE mindset of maximum profit is stamped into your brain, but unless you´re directly involved in TWIs development process you wait like everyone else and see if TWI will follow your "flawless" logic or if they´ll follow their own path and will adjust the game to the community needs (official statements will hopefully come soon).
If you came here to insult forum members you have a grudge with, solve that with PMs, but don´t derail this thread with pointless "troll posts" you can´t even verify (minority? TWIs development plans? just to name two things that are flawed in your argument).
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 16-09-2011, 19:09:30
shooting from the hip, I would guess that they realized that it's better that they design the game as they want, than to listen to too many loudmouth minorities on the interwebz. Probably because they think it's more interesting to design a good game than to please a bunch of dudes who count number of certain weapons on a server  ::)

Look, even the FH team puts limited kits and rare pickup kits in-game to reflect historical availability. What the TWI guys did is pure blasphemy. First of all, they included a weapon that was possibly never actually used in Stalingrad, and then they gave it to every noob and his mom. That's pure bull****.
The MKB42 and AVT-40 where supposed to be a "heroes weapon". Only ONE person in the server per team could use it. i Personally, WOULDNT mind that.

GIVING that lame gun to 18 of 64 players per server! 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoMgnJDXd3k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umDr0mPuyQc
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Natty on 16-09-2011, 19:09:24
forum whiners are always a minority, you can check this fact by adding up all the whining posts on the forum, and correspond that with how many players are playing the game  ;)

"shooting from the hip" is a term when you're guessing, it means "I dont know this for sure, but my qualified guess would be.."

Why do you think I have interest in trolling? I just think dudes on the interwebz who make posts in forums about how games are produced are funny, it's not like just because you like to play PC games, you know how to design or make one. TWI owns their product, and Im glad to see they arent bending over for the loudmouth minority and satisfy with having 200 fanatics playing the game, and instead aim higher and try to make it compatible and fun for everyone. That, is what's hard.

Some people believe it's easy to make a game that everyone likes, and hard(core) to make a game a bunch of elitists/fanatics like... reality is the opposite.  8) Any producer with integrity wouldnt satisfy with a sequal being just an uninteresting niche game, and instead try to branch out and get more players to like his game.
+1 TWI
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Kradovech on 16-09-2011, 19:09:33
You are claiming this is a good concept without having tried the game yourself. Definition of a troll if you ask me.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Natty on 16-09-2011, 19:09:01
nope, because Im not talking about this gun or whatever, such small things are irrelevant. Im talking about the overall philosophy how to produce a game to please more than a handful of forum freaks.

Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LuckyOne on 16-09-2011, 19:09:56
Well if I wanted more than half of my team running around with semi-auto and automatic weapons I might as well play CoD instead... (I'm not saying it's that bad of a game, but it's just not my style). I purchased this game in the hope of getting an authentic and realistic WWII experience, TWI failed to deliver it... I think I'll stick with FH2 for now.

Besides they had a good philosophy of awarding good players who teamwork with battlefield commissions and a chance to try out better weapons. I don't see why did they have to abandon this.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Musti on 16-09-2011, 20:09:30
Weren't there supposed to be ability to set up a historically accurate server or something?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 16-09-2011, 20:09:50
nope, because Im not talking about this gun or whatever, such small things are irrelevant. Im talking about the overall philosophy how to produce a game to please more than a handful of forum freaks.
I see. But as you haven´t played the game and therefore don´t understand the whole issue your oppinion is rather unimportant and can be neglected.
TWI has btw done alot already to make the game more interesting to a broader audience without "adjusting" the game to consoles and thereby sacrificing PC gamers, as others have done before. Again, if you would´ve actually played the game you would know that...but who am I talking to?  ::)

Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Kradovech on 16-09-2011, 20:09:50
nope, because Im not talking about this gun or whatever, such small things are irrelevant. Im talking about the overall philosophy how to produce a game to please more than a handful of forum freaks.
I played a few rounds with this new patch. You can call me a freak all you want, I'm going to claim no-one will like this concept, definitely not the average COD player, as it is simply too frustrating. You of all people would agree, if you had played the game. 
Players with bolt action rifles don't seem to have no purpose other than to be easy kills. Might as well remove this weapon. Same goes for the ppsh - why use that, when instead of it you can choose an uber weapon that owns everything else in the game. In short, yes, these 2 guns are not a small thing, as they completely changed the gameplay, and not for the better. I can tolerate having 1 of these on both team, but no more. But I'm sure, once again, that this will be sorted out.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Natty on 16-09-2011, 20:09:37
I see. But as you haven´t played the game and therefore don´t understand the whole issue your oppinion is rather unimportant and can be neglected.
TWI has btw done alot already to make the game more interesting to a broader audience without "adjusting" the game to consoles and thereby sacrificing PC gamers, as others have done before. Again, if you would´ve actually played the game you would know that...but who am I talking to?  ::)

hehe again your ignorance make you look like a fool in public... you're trying to insinuate that DICE sacrificed the PC development because they do parallell console titles.. lol... so little you know  :P
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Thorondor123 on 16-09-2011, 21:09:02
I see. But as you haven´t played the game and therefore don´t understand the whole issue your oppinion is rather unimportant and can be neglected.
TWI has btw done alot already to make the game more interesting to a broader audience without "adjusting" the game to consoles and thereby sacrificing PC gamers, as others have done before. Again, if you would´ve actually played the game you would know that...but who am I talking to?  ::)

so little you know 
Natty, sprinkle us with wisdom from your mighty brain.

Or maybe you lot should concentrate on RO2 rather than fighting.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 16-09-2011, 21:09:18

hehe again your ignorance make you look like a fool in public... you're trying to insinuate that DICE sacrificed the PC development because they do parallell console titles.. lol... so little you know  :P
hehe again your ignorance makes you look like an ignorant know-it-all in public...  ::)

In no word in my post did I mention DICE. Either I´m blind and can´t read what´s on my screen or you must interpret stuff into my post. It´s interesting that you mention DICE now, though. Says alot about yourself. "A hit dog barks" is a German saying that might fit quite well in here.  ::)

Anyway, except for feeding the troll, a small update for ROHOS came out and that statement:

"TW Ramm-Jaeger posted:
The MKB/AVT was only intended to be an option for assault classes. We've mistakenly enabled it as an option for every class with an option for an SMG. This adds an extra 6 or so MKBs/AVTs per side more than we intended (on a 64 player server). So we're going to patch this up later today, and you'll see significantly less of these weapons after that."


Good to know they listen to their costumers. It seems, though, the patch prevents ROHOS from working now as the game crashes on start...

EDIT: It seems the crash issue is being fixed ATM:

"But how did you guys mess this up" - Does it really matter how it happened? Video games are made by humans, mistakes get made. When video games start being made by robots you won't have this problem. Until then, you'll have to live with the fact that mistakes can be made. The only thing that matters is we spotted the issue, and are fixing it quickly.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Ts4EVER on 16-09-2011, 21:09:56
Natty look at this form a marketing standpoint: When you market your game as authentic and realistic you should follow that up.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Natty on 16-09-2011, 22:09:45
Natty, sprinkle us with wisdom from your mighty brain.

Or maybe you lot should concentrate on RO2 rather than fighting.

dont have to, since everyone (except maybe that WaW guy) here already knows that bf3 PC version hasn't suffered anything from the fact that consoles titles are being simulatenously produced, the opposite actually  8)

@WaW dude, no, you didnt literary type out that you meant dice, but you did, and you know that we all know that you know that we know that that was what you meant (got all that?), so.. the lulz are on you. kthxbai
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 16-09-2011, 22:09:29
@WaW dude, no, you didnt literary type out that you meant dice, but you did, and you know that we all know that you know that we know that that was what you meant (got all that?), so.. the lulz are on you. kthxbai
Stop dissing mineral water! I know, you didn´t literaly write about it, but I know that that´s what you meant!

Sorry, but you´re absolutely pathetic....as soon as you run out of arguments you retreat into your protective shell of "you´re stoopid, and everyone laughs at you hahaha"-habit and start getting personal.
That´s about how 10 year olds discuss things, but not grown, intelligent men (which I hope you are).
With your posts above you´ve automatically disquallified yourself from gameplay-related discussions about ROHOS, yet you don´t have the balls to admit that your arguments are flawed and "counter" with personal insults. I would have expected more from you...quite sad...

I kinda feel bad for derailing this thread, so consider this my final post on that issue. If you behave like a 10 year old who throws insults around I won´t waste my time with you anymore.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: SiCaRiO on 17-09-2011, 00:09:25
Natty, sprinkle us with wisdom from your mighty brain.

Or maybe you lot should concentrate on RO2 rather than fighting.

dont have to, since everyone (except maybe that WaW guy) here already knows that bf3 PC version hasn't suffered anything from the fact that consoles titles are being simulatenously produced, the opposite actually  8)

@WaW dude, no, you didnt literary type out that you meant dice, but you did, and you know that we all know that you know that we know that that was what you meant (got all that?), so.. the lulz are on you. kthxbai

take that as something coming from a bf:h dev, as in, not seriusly =9
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hitm4k3r on 17-09-2011, 01:09:53
I kinda find it interesting, that Natty believes, that a game gets automaticly better, if the developers take care for the majority of the fanbase. I think a lot of people, who waited for RO2 are fans of the prequel (me included). I don't know, whether they are a minority or as you call them "freaks", or whether they are a majority. Obvious TWI tried to take a step forward and to make the game interesting for a new playerbase - it is not bad but that doesn't mean, that RO2 is better or a real step forward. I think, that it will be better in the future, but for ME the qualitiy of the game isn't any better than RO1. So atm I will stick to RO1. To make it more arcadic isn't the right way to make the game better IMO. Everybody has a different opinion about the quality of a game. And to call those people feaks or whatever, who are complaining about something, that really bothers them, isn't a nice way to argue. Since you seem to not have played the game, you should come down from your golden "I'm-a-developer"-throne and start to give hard facts and not suspicions. "I am happy, that they produced their game for the majority and not for some freaks in a forum" - what a well founded statement. How can you be happy, when you don't know the game.
The fact that big developers like DICE or IW have developed their games for a bigger and bigger fanbase, lead to the loss of some core values of these games. Oh man, I loved CoD UO (developed by Treyarch) and Battlefield 1942. Have you ever play Charkow in CoD UO or the battle of foy in MP? - just delicious. I also like other Battlefields I have played, but to my mind the core values of Battlefield are gone: "Battles on Land, Water and in the Air". You call this progress. I say that this is leading to the fact, that games are loosing their unique feel. If RO2 offers the same experience, like CoD or BF, why don't they produce a game all together? I for one have some expectations for a sequel of RO1. Whats bad about complaining about some problems by some people. It is the same, when I give feedback in the FH2 forum. I want to help to improve the mod. How do you call this? Whining of some freaks in a forum? Otherwise we can close this forum, I think. ;)

Btw: the fact, that "Red Orchestra - Ostfront 41 - 45" was a niche game, made it so unique, special and interesting for me. Not the fact, that it was a fastfood game produced for masses of consumers. Why do you think, that many people complain about the fact, that the Brothers in Arms franchise is messed up with the new game? Because the core value (tactical WWII game, with a serious, deep story) is lost. Some guys may call this progression and creative, because it helps to get more money, I call it senseless and betrayal of the true fans, who made this franchise strong.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: siben on 17-09-2011, 10:09:11
Played a bit of singleplayer, wasn't that bad, felt rather intense from time to time. Love the fact that you can change rate of fire on the MG's, the training really learned me a lot of cool tricks.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Natty on 17-09-2011, 12:09:33
random whine

yet again you fail.... didnt you make like 50 posts in this thread before you even tried RO2?  ;) were they all not valid at all? maybe check if you can handle a gun before using it.. nothing you say makes me care more or less about this game at all, you already proven you are blinded by fanboyizm and interwebz nerdrage, (getting overly excited about potential features, screaming in pain when the game doesnt work like you want it) it will go away when you grow older, just relax.

I wont play any beta, if they upload a proper demo Ill might check it out, otherwise Ill wait for reviews from people who actually can analyze and review games, it's not like what you say would make me download or not download a demo lulz.  8)

Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 17-09-2011, 12:09:44
Here's my review

Great game, open to many branches, a good combination of realism and arcadism, quite like FH2.

Many lag issues have been solved, now it is up to the balance solving
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LHeureux on 17-09-2011, 12:09:07
Oh Natty trolling again  :)

I didn't pay 40$ for the game, I always thought that DH was WAY WAY more superior to vanilla RO1, and I'm conviced that Rising Storm will be superior to RO2. I paid 40$ to see the hang of the game, now I'm waiting for mods. I find RO2 boring for now.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 17-09-2011, 12:09:32
Good news and bad news

the good news is that the MKB42 and AVT40 weapons are being limited
the bad news is is that the entire Assault class can still use them...


I cant wait for the servers who limits those gameplay ruining guns
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 17-09-2011, 13:09:28

I cant wait for the servers who limits those gameplay ruining guns
AFAIK this is only possible on non-ranked servers and since everyone seems to play only on ranked servers that´d be pretty much a death sentence.
On another note:
The Steam overlay seems to lower FPS on some players machines and it seems like there´s a 10 to 20 FPS boost if it´s turned off. Meanwhile TWI seems to work with Valve on a solution for that problem.
I´m really looking forward to see what decisions TWI will make on the "hero weapon" problem. They announced that they´d limit these ultra-rare weapons to max. 1 per team, but at the moment it seems like 3 t 6 players can carry them, depending on the map.

/nerdrage and immature rage attack
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Kradovech on 17-09-2011, 13:09:14
What I would do is give these weapons only to the elite rifleman class, and fix all probems that we have with rare weapons being overused. I was rather suprised that they saw these weapons as the assault class weapons...
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 17-09-2011, 13:09:39
I found the original quote by Ramm-Jäger about the "hero weapons" and how the "hero system" in general is supposed to work:
Quote
Picture it like this, lets say there was some weapon that was really rare in a battle, but you didn't want to hand that weapon out to every soldier on the battlefield. Wouldn't it be cool if there was a system where just a few (but not all) soldiers could use those really cool rare weapons from time to time? That is sure as heck more realistic than just having a whole bunch of them in the game.

I'm not going to go into detailing what exactly the Hero system is or how the player progression works. We've got to save some things for later, otherwise we've got no info to pass out as we go along in development (its called PR and working the press). Lets just say ROHOS is still a tactical shooter.


Quote
You don't level up to hero, and are always a hero. You level up to the point of being a hero "candidate". The game also limits the number of heros allowable on a server. So through some jedi voodoo in the background the server picks the heros from the possible hero candidates, up to the limit set by the server. So unless a server admin goes nuts with their settings (and they can't get too crazy unless they are running custom mode), you'll never have a bunch of heroes in one server.

The system sounds really, really good IMO, so I hope that they´ll bring it back in and that the current way of giving the AVT/MKB to the assault class is just a stop-gap-meassure.



EDIT: New patch
Quote
    GladoSC posted:
    new patch...at least for me
    Yep, here is what it does:

    We've got an update uploaded to Valve that should be released today. The update includes the following changes:

    - fixed DDE content being awarded when it should/shouldn't be
    - fixed RO1 content being awarded when it should/shouldn't be
    - fixed the server browser not responding after disconnecting from a game
    - removed MKB/AVT from Squad Leaders/Commanders, only Assault gets it now
    And an update released yesterday included an undocumented change:
    - improved performance for the Ultra setting

    And before anyone asks - no it does not fix/change every other possible thing under the sun It fixes what it says it fixes, nothing more, nothing less. We're chewing through the issues as fast as we can, and you'll probably see another update on Monday.

Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Thorondor123 on 17-09-2011, 22:09:13
Let's bring this up while we're at it. New update was released, as mentioned, few minutes ago with further reducing the amount of MKb's/AVT's and performance updates.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Mr_Cheese on 18-09-2011, 01:09:25
Just had some great rounds on Grain Elevator. Good teamwork in my squad despite there being no communication at all! Plus, I'm finally getting used to the rifles ;)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Rawhide on 18-09-2011, 09:09:09
So guys, a bit early but:

- Is this better then RO?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Tuco on 18-09-2011, 09:09:36
Not yet, i think it has the ability to be better though.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 18-09-2011, 10:09:17
  Going to buy this soon...One question though,  how is the map making modding bit?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 18-09-2011, 14:09:53
  Going to buy this soon...One question though,  how is the map making modding bit?
I think since there's many mods in the making
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Seth_Soldier on 18-09-2011, 14:09:11
just check UDK mapping tutorials !
http://udn.epicgames.com/Main/WebHome.html
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Thorondor123 on 18-09-2011, 15:09:35
My best achievement thus far: Killing two Germans with one Mosin-Nagant shot from 135 meters ;D
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: siben on 18-09-2011, 15:09:23
Ok, just played a bit online. The MG34 is so overpowered, was constantly killing people with it at an average distance of 100 meters. In one round i got in a nice window and got 16 kills before the round was over defending our flag.

Protip: use single shot only unless they are closer then 30 meters.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Thorondor123 on 18-09-2011, 15:09:37
Ok, just played a bit online. The MG34 is so overpowered-
Welcome to the German WWII infantry doctrine ;)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 18-09-2011, 15:09:18
Ok, just played a bit online. The MG34 is so overpowered-
Welcome to the German WWII infantry doctrine ;)
Then why issent PPSH dominating MP40?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Thorondor123 on 18-09-2011, 15:09:06
Ok, just played a bit online. The MG34 is so overpowered-
Welcome to the German WWII infantry doctrine ;)
Then why issent PPSH dominating MP40?

Don't ask me, I always pick up a PPŠ if I see one.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 18-09-2011, 15:09:59
Ok, just played a bit online. The MG34 is so overpowered-
Welcome to the German WWII infantry doctrine ;)
Then why issent PPSH dominating MP40?

Don't ask me, I always pick up a PPŠ if I see one.
MG34 dominated DP28. No doubt
But PPSH dominated MP40 in almost every way, no doubt  ;D

in RO2 MP40>PPSH in every way
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 18-09-2011, 15:09:35
]Then why issent PPSH dominating MP40?
In close quarters it definately dominates the MP40 and with some training it´s even really good on longer ranges.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Thorondor123 on 18-09-2011, 15:09:02
Ok, just played a bit online. The MG34 is so overpowered-
Welcome to the German WWII infantry doctrine ;)
Then why issent PPSH dominating MP40?

Don't ask me, I always pick up a PPŠ if I see one.
MG34 dominated DP28. No doubt
But PPSH dominated MP40 in almost every way, no doubt  ;D

in RO2 MP40>PPSH in every way
Hurr durr herp derp. Fascinating. Is this by any mean a firm sign of the infamous Axis bias?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: siben on 18-09-2011, 15:09:47
Also, i know i am decent, but not this decent, anyone else having this problem?

(http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/7402/knipsel2q.png)
(http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/9415/knipselfd.png)

All in under half an hour....
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 18-09-2011, 15:09:11
]Then why issent PPSH dominating MP40?
In close quarters it definately dominates the MP40 and with some training it´s even really good on longer ranges.
Even the unexperienced can use the MP40 with great effect, when experienced players with MP40 dominate even more

no PPSH is nothing compared to MP40. Its a fluke!


Thorondor that is really not funny , go to RO2 forums yourself

At least there people may critize german things
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Musti on 18-09-2011, 15:09:18
Then why issent PPSH dominating MP40?
Maybe its the shooter
(http://multiply.com/mu/andypertamax/image/1/photos/upload/300x300/ThiwvQooCsoAAEQJvwE1/trollface-small-normal2pl7-1.png?et=GrcHeAkywwBzgE0edBv%2BsQ&nmid=0)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 18-09-2011, 15:09:13
Then why issent PPSH dominating MP40?
Maybe its the shooter
(http://multiply.com/mu/andypertamax/image/1/photos/upload/300x300/ThiwvQooCsoAAEQJvwE1/trollface-small-normal2pl7-1.png?et=GrcHeAkywwBzgE0edBv%2BsQ&nmid=0)
IF I WHERENT THE MAN I WAS I WOULD "BUURP" kiss you!
*drinks bottle of vodka before shooting PPSH
 ;D
Also

MAUSER C96 FTW!  God i love that pistol
Today i picked one up, adjusted sights to 200 meter
and PAW haha! headshot! Guy comes up close! paw paw paw! Down!
I see something in the distance! PAW! HEADSHOT! and teamkill

C96!!!!!FTW!!!
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: bjack on 18-09-2011, 16:09:12
The current state of RO2 makes me play and appreciate RO1/DH all the more.  It's terrible and a big step backwards toward Call of Duty.  The only nice new thing is first person cover system.

RO1 became much better over time, following new maps and mods.  RO2 also will get better in the same regard.  Tripwire says that they will be adding a ton of stuff that didn't make it into the release.  RO2 has only a fraction of guns and vehicles that RO1 has.

Most of the maps are small, close quarters.  When you aim down the sights, you get a very large zoom.  Combine this with a rifle in tight quarters and you get punishing tunnel vision.   Did I mention you get an extra zoom by pressing Shift anytime?  Haha!  Your MP40 can snap off headshots all day.

You cannot enter/exit tanks, but only respawn inside one.  Pretty huge ramifications.

MGs are straight out of vanilla BF2 with all the deviation and recoil.  To actually hit anything, you can single fire the MG34.  So you aren't firing an MG so much as a large capacity rifle.  If you enjoyed using MGs in RO1, your dreams are crushed!  It seems the only way I score kills with MGs in RO2 is by using its penetration to blindfire through obstacles.  Since most guns have 8X ACOG, you will get sniped if you try to use a MG like a MG.  You know, area denial, suppression, if not raw killing power.   The kill cam will guarantee if you setup somewhere and actually kill someone, they will just come back and snipe you.

Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: siben on 18-09-2011, 16:09:47
Use an MG in the way it was intended and you wont get killed that fast. You do not place it in the middle of the map looking straight at the enemy, you place it in there flank, so when they advance you shoot them from the side. you are 1000% more effective this way.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Kradovech on 18-09-2011, 17:09:04
The current state of RO2 makes me play and appreciate RO1/DH all the more.  It's terrible and a big step backwards toward Call of Duty.  The only nice new thing is first person cover system.

RO1 became much better over time, following new maps and mods.  RO2 also will get better in the same regard.  Tripwire says that they will be adding a ton of stuff that didn't make it into the release.  RO2 has only a fraction of guns and vehicles that RO1 has.

Most of the maps are small, close quarters.  When you aim down the sights, you get a very large zoom.  Combine this with a rifle in tight quarters and you get punishing tunnel vision.   Did I mention you get an extra zoom by pressing Shift anytime?  Haha!  Your MP40 can snap off headshots all day.

You cannot enter/exit tanks, but only respawn inside one.  Pretty huge ramifications.

MGs are straight out of vanilla BF2 with all the deviation and recoil.  To actually hit anything, you can single fire the MG34.  So you aren't firing an MG so much as a large capacity rifle.  If you enjoyed using MGs in RO1, your dreams are crushed!  It seems the only way I score kills with MGs in RO2 is by using its penetration to blindfire through obstacles.  Since most guns have 8X ACOG, you will get sniped if you try to use a MG like a MG.  You know, area denial, suppression, if not raw killing power.   The kill cam will guarantee if you setup somewhere and actually kill someone, they will just come back and snipe you.
I never saw  a reason why you had to spawn outside tanks in RO1. And bailing the tanks would mostly have a cinematic value for the enemies, not much more.
I haven't experienced any major problems with the MG's, I find them rather effective.

I'll agree that most maps are too small for 64 players

And a tip of the day: play only on realism servers. That should take care of most of your problems. Namely the kill cam.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: G.Drew on 18-09-2011, 17:09:40
Yep. Im bored this game now. Im surprised.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Mr_Cheese on 18-09-2011, 21:09:28
Also, i know i am decent, but not this decent, anyone else having this problem?

*Pics*

All in under half an hour....
Yeah, I had a similar thing: 7 awards all at Sep 18, 2011 6:50pm, including 3 tanking ones when I've not used a tank since the beta! I also apparently completed the campaign at Sep 17, 2011 1:39pm on Recruit, Soldier and Veteran levels...

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197976747859/stats/appid/35450/achievements
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 18-09-2011, 22:09:53
.  RO2 has only a fraction of guns and vehicles that RO1 has.

They will add more stuff later on they said
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 19-09-2011, 10:09:19
.  RO2 has only a fraction of guns and vehicles that RO1 has.

They will add more stuff later on they said
They already announced a free DLC with two new tanks (most likely T70 and P3), two APCs (most likely Bren Carrier and Sdkfz 251), new maps and that online campaign-mode. From what I heard the DLC is supposed to be released around December 11. Also keep in mind that we´ll see a wide variety of mods once we´ll have the UDK released (Check out this thread (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2064345) containing all announced mods so far).
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 19-09-2011, 11:09:41
.  RO2 has only a fraction of guns and vehicles that RO1 has.

They will add more stuff later on they said
They already announced a free DLC with two new tanks (most likely T70 and P3), two APCs (most likely Bren Carrier and Sdkfz 251), new maps and that online campaign-mode. From what I heard the DLC is supposed to be released around December 11. Also keep in mind that we´ll see a wide variety of mods once we´ll have the UDK released (Check out this thread (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2064345) containing all announced mods so far).
The hungarian mod looks very awesome, also Iron front 1914-1916
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 19-09-2011, 11:09:11
I´m so looking forward to play In Country: Vietnam (http://www.pilsje.net/erik/Loach.html). They´ll even add helicopters and I totally love the Vietnam settings.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 19-09-2011, 13:09:31
and again my stats arent being recorded... I do not care about the stats, but i do care about unlocking Gewehr 41 bajonet and PPSH drum magazines
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LHeureux on 19-09-2011, 14:09:56
I´m so looking forward to play In Country: Vietnam (http://www.pilsje.net/erik/Loach.html). They´ll even add helicopters and I totally love the Vietnam settings.
I think the helicopters will mainly be scout helicopters like the recon plane in RO2. Aka : Not usable
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LuckyOne on 19-09-2011, 15:09:44
I´m so looking forward to play In Country: Vietnam (http://www.pilsje.net/erik/Loach.html). They´ll even add helicopters and I totally love the Vietnam settings.
I think the helicopters will mainly be scout helicopters like the recon plane in RO2. Aka : Not usable

Yeah, probably, the engine seems to laggy for flying... Still they are making full detailed interiors so there's always hope...
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 19-09-2011, 15:09:11
I´m so looking forward to play In Country: Vietnam (http://www.pilsje.net/erik/Loach.html). They´ll even add helicopters and I totally love the Vietnam settings.
I think the helicopters will mainly be scout helicopters like the recon plane in RO2. Aka : Not usable
You´re right, I just checked their forums and I found no hint that we´ll see flyable helos in-game, instead they will probably be used as commander assets (scout and fire support). Still, IC:V is a mod I´m really looking forward to. ;)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LHeureux on 19-09-2011, 15:09:58
Yep. Im bored this game now. Im surprised.
Same here.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 20-09-2011, 18:09:01
A new patch was released today, wich did more harm then good

Some people have performance issues again, some people have malfuctioning Punkbusters(I am one of those), some people constant crash now..
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Bang0o on 20-09-2011, 18:09:22
A new patch was released today, wich did more harm then good

Some people have performance issues again, some people have malfuctioning Punkbusters(I am one of those), some people constant crash now..
i played about 2 hours today with the new patch and didnt see any problems. nothing has changed. i didnt crash once. my framerate is the same like yesterday. i guess youre unlucky :D
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: DLFReporter on 21-09-2011, 08:09:26
A new patch was released today, wich did more harm then good
Some people have performance issues again, some people have malfuctioning Punkbusters(I am one of those), some people constant crash now..

Check your settings. I had a patch (like two versions ago) that reset all my graphic settings leading to bad performance all round.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 21-09-2011, 13:09:18
The latest patch didn´t cause any FPS issue for me, too. Instead I was able to do some tweaks and turn up some settings and still have around 30 to 40 FPS.

Unfortunately another problem has arisen which happened twice to me. I use a laptop to play games etc. and after playing yesterday and today it completely shut down after rounds end. The screen simply goes black, my laptop shuts completely down and I have to restart it.
It´s rather strange and I fear that something might be broken or will break if this´ll continue. It´s odd since it happened at rounds end when the server was about to switch maps. Does someone have a clue what that might mean?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: DLFReporter on 21-09-2011, 13:09:48
That could be a thermal problem. Most Laptops have a safety feature that switches the laptop off once a critical temperature is reached.

Funny thing happened to me on the weekend with my Smartphone. They too have this sensor and it just couldn't handle GPS navigation combined with sun on the dashboard and just wouldn't run for more than 5min. ^^
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: G.Drew on 21-09-2011, 15:09:05
Had to manually update PB for it. That was about it.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 21-09-2011, 16:09:23
That could be a thermal problem. Most Laptops have a safety feature that switches the laptop off once a critical temperature is reached.

Funny thing happened to me on the weekend with my Smartphone. They too have this sensor and it just couldn't handle GPS navigation combined with sun on the dashboard and just wouldn't run for more than 5min. ^^
Thanks for the answer, I suspected something like this. Oh well, looks like I´ll have to buy a new desktop PC tonight. ^^

EDIT: New patch coming out right now:
Quote
Red Orchestra 2 Update Released - September 21
posted by [TW]Yoshiro @ 09:22PM on September 21, 2011
- Fixed a bug where all sound would sometimes cut out when the map changes
- Various crash fixes for server and client
- Client performance optimizations
- Single Player Fix - fixed "double music" playing when loading the game from a checkpoint
- Added the ability to enable webadmin through the commandline. This will allow you to override what is in the ini files, thus fixing up any issues with inis getting overwritten by updates. To enable webadmin via the commandline add EnableWebAdmin=True to the "?" separated commandline parameters. To set the webadmin port add WebAdminPort= to the "?" separated commandline parameters.

As a heads up, we are continuing to work on the following:
- VOIP
- Stats
- Crashes
- Optimization
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 22-09-2011, 13:09:41
My punkbuster problems got fixe, i had to use the PB Reinstall tool

To those who have problems with punkbuster, all thee problems are solved here=
http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?p=900330



This program from PB solved it for me
http://www.evenbalance.com/downloads/pbsvc/pbsvc.exe
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 23-09-2011, 01:09:48
I have found my love in this game. The lag has bee stabilized here, shutting down steam ingame community made a HUGE diffrence. My stats are fully recording. My favorite map has been found (Commisars house) and my love lies in bolt action rifles. Did window shooting today, and took out 7 germans. Carefull thinking and planning, watching there moves, it felt like frakking stalingrad itself

A while later i notice a enemy sniper, i believed the range was 300 meters, setted the sights to it, fired from long range and got the bastard after 2 shots! Its so rewarding and fun


Also side arms ftw! Was being a PTRS gunner, i grabbed my nagant inside a building. And took out 3 germans with 7 bullets!

Currently i am unlocking the mosin nagant bajonet and TT33 for russians, and the removed sight hood for K98(And bajonet) and C96 mauser. The C96 is a bit tricky, but it is the best long range pistol of them all, adjust the sights and go crazy!
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 25-09-2011, 11:09:25
Did a game test on my new PC yesterday and I can run everything on ultra, except for bloom, which I´ve turned off because it kinda makes me sea-sick. I get constant 40-50 FPS and the game just looks beautiful, I can´t understand why people say it looks like crap. o0
Yesterday I´ve also seen a hero for the first time and the player model looked quite good actually, with dirt all over it, truely like someone who spent too much time fighting in a city. Very nice.

My stats also seem to work just fine, but I really hope TWI won´t reset all the stats because of many players leveling up because of bugs. I´d really like to keep what I´ve unlocked for myself. :/
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Ciupita on 25-09-2011, 12:09:49
Did a game test on my new PC yesterday and I can run everything on ultra, except for bloom, which I´ve turned off because it kinda makes me sea-sick. I get constant 40-50 FPS and the game just looks beautiful, I can´t understand why people say it looks like crap. o0
Yesterday I´ve also seen a hero for the first time and the player model looked quite good actually, with dirt all over it, truely like someone who spent too much time fighting in a city. Very nice.

My stats also seem to work just fine, but I really hope TWI won´t reset all the stats because of many players leveling up because of bugs. I´d really like to keep what I´ve unlocked for myself. :/

yeah.. i've unlocked nearly everything because of bugs.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 25-09-2011, 12:09:09


yeah.. i've unlocked nearly everything because of bugs.
An option for each player where they can decide if they want to reset their stats or not would be nice. I can understand those who "bugged up" the ranks that they might reset their stats, but a full reset would suck very badly for those who actually unlocked all their stuff...
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Thorondor123 on 25-09-2011, 12:09:41
I wouldn't mind getting all the unlocks for free :D
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 25-09-2011, 21:09:46
C96 is such a sexy weapon. You just love that stripper clippering loading fun toy.
Also K98 with sight hood removed=FOR the WIN
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Sander93 on 26-09-2011, 14:09:58
For people who haven't bought it yet: here's a site (I know it looks a bit spooky but it's a trustworthy site) that sells codes to be used on Steam/Origin: RO2 is only 20 euros there.
http://www.cjs-cdkeys.com/search.php?search_query=red+orchestra+2
(BF3 limited edition for only 28 euroes btw!)

On the subject of buying, I'm still not sure. I've heard a lot of people complaining about the gameplay already getting boring. Can someone give an honest opinion about it?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 26-09-2011, 14:09:59
What I dislike most about RO2 are most of the maps. They all play nice, sure, but I miss those big combined arms maps you had in RO1/DH that didn´t take 15 minutes untill they´re over. Most maps lack a certain tactical appeal. In RO2 you just cap points one after another, in a "hose" movement. There´s not much room for tactics and maneuvre at the moment.
I really hope that the SDK will be released soon, so we might see some big combined arms maps where you have lots of free space to maneuvre.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 26-09-2011, 14:09:17
Yeah it is a trustworthy site, IIRC they bought a huge bunch of CD keys in a single pass, thus the cheap price

As for the gameplay, the gameplay is actually fun and nice. But the game is currently unfair. Especialy if you play the russians. The maps are not well balanced and the weapons are favoured towards the germans

K98 vs mosin and G41 vs SVT40 is fine, its the MP40 and MKB42 that always shift the balance.
Tank battles are also useless. PZIV ausf F2 dominates the T34 on every single thing.

Then take commisarshouse...Soviets are supposed to attack, yet only get 1 T34 vs 2 PZIV ausf F2

Prices of RO2 will drop soon probaly, i'de say sander, buy the game when the promised big patches are released
Despite all that, Ro2 is still amazing. Consider it a rough diamond, awaiting to be polished

For the mods, RO2 is worth getting ofcourse. There are many epic mods in the making.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 29-09-2011, 23:09:27
im losing faith in this game

Nine losses in a row today with the russian team, spread over 5 servers

Everywhere i go, MP40 and MKB42 domination of everything, even the so called 'Realism'" servers. The axis teams always overstacked with 3 players more, People with german styled names claiming the balance is fine...

Stats are still barely recorded....
Seeing MG34's now with 250 round belts...DP28 still without any unlock
MP40's with dual mags? Check. PPSH with drums? havent saw a SINGLE one.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Fuchs on 30-09-2011, 00:09:08
You know people don't take to you serious when it comes to claiming that Axis team is superior in a game?..
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 30-09-2011, 00:09:23
Fuchs it is a common know fact that on RO2 it IS Axis>allies
Mosin nagant and K98 are fine
Same as for Gewehr 41 and SVT 40

Now comes it
MP40>PPSH all the way. you can freaking snipe people with the mp40. Short range, long range, it doesnt matter, it wins
MG34>DP 28. The MG34 gets 3 lovely upgrades, the DP28 doesnt get a single one. There is zero advantage in playing DP28 compared to MG34
MKB42>AVT. Both of these weapons shouldnt be ingame. The AVT is completly useles due to insane recoil, while the MKB42 dominates each and every thing in the game. Seeing also 6 of these guns running around..
PZIV vs T34 is another fine example. Me and ciupita had to fire 5 shells on a PZIV when i was being constant one-2 shotted by a PZIV...

Then we havent talked about map balance. Some maps are simply impossible for the Allies to win. Like Commisarshouse. I mean the germans get twice the Tanks. why?

Did you even played RO2? Properly? Because your comment doesnt make sense, whatsoever then.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LuckyOne on 30-09-2011, 00:09:51
Oh well I guess when my copy FINALLY arrives it goes straight to the shelf and hopefully the community will fix it one day.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Thorondor123 on 30-09-2011, 00:09:23

Did you even played RO2? Properly? Because your comment doesnt make sense, whatsoever then.

Have YOU played it? Because if you haven't seen a PPŠ with a drum...
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 30-09-2011, 00:09:11
The mods that are incoming are truly awesome and amazing. And if TWI holds there word, then sure, RO2 will be awesome as fck.

But yeah, for the moment. My stats are still not being properly recorded. Havent seen a single person with a PPSH with drum mag......

And no thorondor, i havent seen a single PPSH with drum mag. And yes i have played it, played it alot actually. From the day Beta was released till today
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 30-09-2011, 01:09:58
  Okay I found the game for $23 so I decided to spring for it.  To be honest most of the gameplay videos made it seem like a boring pile of shit, that and listening to people bitch and moan on TS about what a buggy nightmare it was really turned me off to this before I even installed it.  I was pleasantly surprised however!  For me it has been a very nice bug free experience and the best $$$$ I have spent on a PC game since BF2 and COH first came out.  With nifty mods and more fixes for some of the glaring bug issues on the way I see this game living on my HD for many years to come. 
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Hjaldrgud on 30-09-2011, 01:09:48
I agree. I didn't find THAT many bugs in the game...
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: General_Henry on 30-09-2011, 05:09:21
The mods that are incoming are truly awesome and amazing. And if TWI holds there word, then sure, RO2 will be awesome as fck.

But yeah, for the moment. My stats are still not being properly recorded. Havent seen a single person with a PPSH with drum mag......

And no thorondor, i havent seen a single PPSH with drum mag. And yes i have played it, played it alot actually. From the day Beta was released till today

I am a total newbie yet I am able to steal some drug mag ppsh from the ground, they are purely awesome.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hitm4k3r on 30-09-2011, 14:09:49
Played some online matches now and I have to say, that the game is a far different experience from any other game. Watching the videos I first thought, that it seems to be more like CoD2 but it isn't the case and feels much different. It is one of few games where you get the feeling to use a weapon and not being on a paintball map (ofcourse as close as possible in a game). I made also good experiences with the PPSH. You don't need a drum mag, because one or two bursts also on mid range are quiet deadly and mostly the firefights are over before you are able to reload. I don't think, that the PPSH is that much inferior compared to MP40. This is different for the MKB and STV and the tanks. MKB hasn't got any recoil and is much too strong. PZIV is invincible compared to the T34. I played the SP campaign on both sides. Tank missions on the german side were very easy, on the sovjet side I had real problems and needed much more time for the missions. The problem is, that the T34 is an easy one/two shot kill from every angle, also the front. To kill a PZIV with one shot requires much more - mostly luck. I also have the feeling, that aiming with the T34 is much harder, than with the PZIV. With the MG's I haven't got a problem. Ofcourse a little upgrade for the DP would be nice, but as in history/reality the MG34 was superior compared to the DP, so why should it be different in this game. In RO1 it was the same. All in all a good game with a lot of potential and a brigth future and you can get it for a fair price. I didn't find that many bugs. BC2 has more bugs that are influencing the gameplay much more and this game is two years old and costs still the same.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 30-09-2011, 15:09:04
Played again today, lost 2 more ruskie matches

Then i was like=SCRREEW you guys, im just gonna take nagant revolver!


15 kills, 4 deaths later, we Won the match  :o :o :o
So yeah
nagant revolver is appearntly the key to victory!
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Kelmola on 30-09-2011, 15:09:05
The more I read this thread, the more convinced I become that I will never have to stray away from FH2 into this... product. ;D
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Natty on 30-09-2011, 15:09:28
I hope TWI isnt reading this thread, they'd cry for all the bad marketing their game gets...

btw; shouldn't the thread be renamed "IT CAME"?  ;)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LuckyOne on 30-09-2011, 15:09:49

btw; shouldn't the thread be renamed "IT CAME"?  ;)

Nah, it's still not finished...  :P
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Thorondor123 on 30-09-2011, 15:09:28
I hope TWI isnt reading this thread, they'd cry for all the bad marketing their game gets...

btw; shouldn't the thread be renamed "IT CAME"?  ;)
You better hope that DICE is not reading the BF3 thread... :P
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Natty on 30-09-2011, 15:09:08
uhh.. that game isnt released yet.. it's not like what dudes think about the beta matters....

RO2 is shipped, isnt it?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Fuchs on 30-09-2011, 15:09:18
ffs Natty.. Are you a troll? Not a joke, a super honest question.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 30-09-2011, 15:09:14
TWI is busy fixing the game, so it´d be a great surprise if they´d read this thread.
But to get away from DICE-dudes stupid off-topic talk, because..
..an update for the Beta has been released and the following statement:
Quote
    [TW]Wilsonam:

    ''We've just updated the RO2 Beta with test fixes for the stats issues and for the no-sound bug.

    We want to get some volume testing on the stats fix - tested ok in small numbers in the office, but needs volume testing. If you still have the beta installed, it should update automatically. Please report any problems you find with the stats IN THIS THREAD. But please do watch the numbers carefully - we don't need lots of "I'm sure that wasn't right, but I can't remember"
Seems like we´re close to an update that´ll fix the stats issues. It´s pretty strange, though, I see many people "bugging" up in levels, yet for me and others it works just fine. Let´s hope they´ll fix it, without reseting stats.
And Theta, stop whining so much about how the game is "sooo unfair for the Russians". The PPSH is a great weapon, it´s absolutely deadly in CQB, while it´s also quite effective on longer ranges.
I also haven´t noticed the Russians being on a disadvantage on most maps. Quite the contrary, a good Russian team can easily wipe Germans off the table. The one point I agree with you, though, is the MKB42.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Thorondor123 on 30-09-2011, 15:09:40
uhh.. that game isnt released yet.. it's not like what dudes think about the beta matters....

RO2 is shipped, isnt it?
I mostly meant your abusive and blatantly insulting comments about people who had a slightest doubt about the game :)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Natty on 30-09-2011, 15:09:34
I mostly meant your abusive and blatantly insulting comments about people who had a slightest doubt about the game :)

uh...come again?  ???
ffs Natty.. Are you a troll? Not a joke, a super honest question.
Why do you ask that?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Thorondor123 on 30-09-2011, 15:09:52
No thanks.

We'll continue on RO2.

Have a nice day.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Natty on 30-09-2011, 15:09:57
because I haven't any of those things you mentioned, thanks for clearing that up  8)

have a nice day you too  :)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Mr_Cheese on 30-09-2011, 18:09:24
..an update for the Beta has been released and the following statement:
Quote
    [TW]Wilsonam:

    ''We've just updated the RO2 Beta with test fixes for the stats issues and for the no-sound bug.

    We want to get some volume testing on the stats fix - tested ok in small numbers in the office, but needs volume testing. If you still have the beta installed, it should update automatically. Please report any problems you find with the stats IN THIS THREAD. But please do watch the numbers carefully - we don't need lots of "I'm sure that wasn't right, but I can't remember"
I wondered why my RO2 beta had re-appeared in my Steam games list!
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: 9.Pz Benz on 03-10-2011, 22:10:24
Large Update Coming This Week
posted by [TW]Yoshiro @ 10:23PM on October 03, 2011
Hey guys,

It has been a few days since I last had a chance to talk with you. While I was out of town at a wedding, the team has been hard at work bringing you another update for RO 2. This will be a large update (several gigs in size) due to the art/level changes that have gone into it dealing with performance and graphical improvements (which will cause some areas on the maps as well as weapons/characters in some situations to look significantly better when not in the primary light source).

We've also been actively running the stand alone beta build of the game to identify and fix stats and achievement issues. If all goes well we believe we will have this wrapped up soon.

So in summary here is what you can expect:
1) Graphical Improvements in some lighting conditions
2) Improved performance in nearly every map
3) Stats/achievements systems fixed
4) Fix of the sound loss on map change (again... this time with feeling)
5) Several minor performance enhancements in code

At the same time we will likely roll out our next update of the SDK for those who have it, fixing a few more issues (the highlight being Play In Editor).

The timing of when this update rolls out largely depends on how our testing of the stats system goes in the beta build. When we push out the next update for it, we would appreciate your help hammering at it. See you on the front!
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 03-10-2011, 22:10:36
Still no balance changes. MP40>PPSH remains, MG34>DP28 remains Stielgranate>F1 remains PZIV>T34 remains


Well i do hope they fix the G41's sights. there's something off on them
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: nebsif on 04-10-2011, 08:10:10
Still no balance changes. MP40>PPSH remains, MG34>DP28 remains Stielgranate>F1 remains PZIV>T34 remains


Well i do hope they fix the G41's sights. there's something off on them
You still didnt give up on it? :D
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Musti on 04-10-2011, 08:10:30
Thats Theta, he just won't give up. ;)
never
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: 9.Pz Benz on 04-10-2011, 09:10:27
Still no balance changes. MP40>PPSH remains, MG34>DP28 remains Stielgranate>F1 remains PZIV>T34 remains


Well i do hope they fix the G41's sights. there's something off on them

Serious, do you even read other post ? 3) Stats/achievements systems fixed will be a huge improvement for balance.

Also current stats will have a reset.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 04-10-2011, 10:10:03
http://steamcommunity.com/games/RO2/announcements/detail/1353554621924859693 (http://steamcommunity.com/games/RO2/announcements/detail/1353554621924859693)
Link to the official statement about "the state of the game". As Benz said, stats will be reset (saw that one coming :/), but we´ll get double xp for a limited amount of time and players who came before the stat reset will get an extra achievement which will apparently bring a bonus of some sort in the coming future.
It´s a bit sad that they´ll release the stats, since I levelled up normally without glitching, but I guess with so many bugged player profiles one had to expect that...I just hope I´ll have enough time to play when university begins next week.
Now that this milestone has been reached I hope that we´ll get a statement about those pesky "hero weapons". I´d really love to see the "old" hero system being implemented.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: DLFReporter on 04-10-2011, 11:10:51
That's the main reason why they are resetting the stats is to correct the hero system. :)
I'm all for it and looking forward to my nice "I was there when the world was reset" Award. ^^
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 05-10-2011, 10:10:50
^I see. That would be great, as those "hero" weapons would be greatly limited.
Anyway, some news about the status of the coming update:
Quote
Testing Stat Reset

9h 31m 26s overdue

Geplant von: [TW]Yoshiro

We have reset stats for the beta. This is to test not only the process but the stats gained afterwards.

Stats will currently be doubled. But as a heads up, an example of current points can be found in the following:

Assists: 1
Kills: 2
Capture an Objective: 10


The count for these items will remain the same for your stats, but the point rewards/honor will be further doubled during this period and after the stat reset for the main game.

Players will also start to see Red Orchestra 2 - Stats DLC attached to their game accounts. This will allow us to identify who was a participant before the stat reset and reward them at a later date.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: G.Drew on 05-10-2011, 15:10:11
Meh.
I dont think ill playing it until the mods come out. Counter to what the ranking system is meant to do, its has very much put me off playing the game.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: bjack on 06-10-2011, 02:10:34
Meh.
I dont think ill playing it until the mods come out. Counter to what the ranking system is meant to do, its has very much put me off playing the game.

Also waiting for mods.  The killer for me is the fact that everyone has cybernetic ultrazoom.  I can't believe they would do this to an RO sequel.  I hope mods fix this.


Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Kradovech on 06-10-2011, 19:10:21
Meh.
I dont think ill playing it until the mods come out. Counter to what the ranking system is meant to do, its has very much put me off playing the game.

Also waiting for mods.  The killer for me is the fact that everyone has cybernetic ultrazoom.  I can't believe they would do this to an RO sequel.  I hope mods fix this.
Although it fealt strange thing to have, it actually works rather well in simulating how the human eye works. You can see this if you take a look at at what ranges the fighting takes place usually. Most kills in my experience are made at 100 meters, some at 200. Now a trained soldier should not have trouble hitting a stationary target at 300 meters. So it is in fact realistic to have this.

The unlock system however is terrible.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LHeureux on 19-10-2011, 04:10:27
Trailer for Rising Storm!!  :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KRM12CR2VU
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: DLFReporter on 19-10-2011, 15:10:54
A nice interview with the makers of RO2 and RS:
http://au.pc.gamespy.com/pc/red-orchestra-heroes-of-stalingrad/1210017p1.html
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Aggroman on 22-10-2011, 14:10:46
I got my copy gifted yesterday and the download took like 10 hours, so I was able to play for some minutes at 3 am and really really tired, my impression was kinda weird.
But then I tried it out today, it was awesome! :D
Love the cover system mechanics, the graphics are ok and it runs pretty good on high settings for me, I need to get used to the ironsight system, I prefer it if my weapons is always in the middle of the screen when aiming.
Oh, and anyone knows if there is a way to have both teams speak in their native languages? Like russians will german russian and germans will speak german, no matter in which team I am, the german accent english is just lame.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 22-10-2011, 14:10:01
^
Quote
Get into \Steam\steamapps\common\redorchestra2beta\ROGame\C ookedPC\Sounds

Save all chattersounds like:
AUD_VOX_Chatter_GerEng_01_Cue
AUD_VOX_Chatter_GerEng_02_Cue
AUD_VOX_Chatter_RusEng_01_Cue
...

Now copy from the folter:
C:\Steam\steamapps\common\redorchestra2beta\ROGame \CookedPC\Packages\Audio
The AUD_VOX_Chatter_GerGer_01
The AUD_VOX_Chatter_GerGer_02
...
and rename them like the above ones! Important number to number! Than replace them with the eng versions and you have the native langugage of the country you play! Tried it out with infantry and tanks and it works well! Have fun with a much more intense and authentic battlefield!
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Aggroman on 22-10-2011, 17:10:09
Thanks, that worked. :)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LuckyOne on 25-11-2011, 21:11:32
I can't believe that nobody posted about the 50 % off deal yesterday! Anyway it's still 33 % off on Steam so if somebody wants it...
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Kradovech on 25-11-2011, 21:11:33
Anybody tried the new patch yet? it seems they decreased the amount of automatic weapons
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LHeureux on 25-11-2011, 23:11:24
Yeah tried it, there's only like 2 servers full, so I couldn't really try it. Ah yeah, still laggy.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LuckyOne on 26-11-2011, 11:11:36
Yeah tried it, there's only like 2 servers full, so I couldn't really try it. Ah yeah, still laggy.

Yeah but the FPS improved, at least for me... Now around 60 constantly...
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 07-12-2011, 15:12:18
Found an interesting new mod on ModDB:
Karelian Front (http://karelianfront.com/)
As the name says the mod will cover the Continuation War fought in Finland. It´s quite new so not much content has been revealed so far, but I´ll sure keep an eye on it.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 07-12-2011, 20:12:42
Interesting to see how are they gonna pull it off. RO2 engine is not what I'd pick to use in order to make realistic landscape enviroments. Or are they gonna make a mod about battle of Viipuri in 1944 only?  :P
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Kradovech on 07-12-2011, 21:12:32
Well there is that pacific mod coming as well, although I haven't followed it myself. So I'd assume that landscapes looking good enough are possible to pull off.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 07-12-2011, 21:12:28
Sure they can focus on some specific parts of the bigger battles but I guess its all about design and refining which specific thing you want to present. :)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 07-12-2011, 21:12:55
Well things like this, i hope they brighten up the community

If i go online now, RO2 has 986 players...
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: sn00x on 08-12-2011, 14:12:09
RO2 engine is not what I'd pick to use in order to make realistic landscape enviroments.

are you entirely sure about this?  :P
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 08-12-2011, 14:12:59
Yes.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LHeureux on 08-12-2011, 18:12:39
RO2 engine is not what I'd pick to use in order to make realistic landscape enviroments.

are you entirely sure about this?  :P
lol UT3 engine got the one of the worst for this
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 10-12-2011, 18:12:57
well i really hope this gets off the ground. I would love to see this with the beautifull M27, M28 and KP 31
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LHeureux on 10-12-2011, 18:12:30
lol RO2 is dead. TWI tried to please 2 community both didn't like it.

For the casual community : It was still too hard, the gameplay was so different (territory, countdown, etc) and not enough cod-like. Bugs and broken mechanics made them leave too.

For the veterans/realist community : It was now too much cod-like with unlocks, fast pace, etc, and the bugs and broken mechanics made them leave too.

So the last players are people that like the mix, wich is like 900 everyday lol.

Last hope is in mods. That made me think, I should uninstall RO2, need some places on the HDD. What a failed game, sadly  :(
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 10-12-2011, 19:12:39
plus TWI hassent fixed much exept for performance issues. The game is still unbalanced(map wise) and the unlock system is still heavily favoured for the germans, wich in turn still screws the balance.

My hope indeed lies with the mods. Many promosing mods!
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: th_battleaxe on 11-12-2011, 17:12:40
well, the mods are still rather popular with the original, however, not like it used to be before the release
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LHeureux on 11-12-2011, 18:12:54
Wich mod? DH? It's barely played. Don't mix bots with human players :P

But RO1 original is almost more played than RO2, if not more.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 11-12-2011, 19:12:15
PZIV=30mm side armour.
PTRD=40mm penetration at 100 meters
Me at 50 meters fire at the PZIV side at a perfect angle
TWI=nope.avi

25 shots...none penetrated those weak sides
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LHeureux on 11-12-2011, 23:12:43
But the T34 gets penetrated frontaly by the german's one  ::)
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Tuco on 24-01-2012, 20:01:24
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fohYI_4A9_w&feature=player_embedded
New Rising Storm trailer released.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: ajappat on 24-01-2012, 22:01:21
Btw, has this game basically died? I haven't really played after release and recently I decided to try again and found only servers full of bots  ???
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 25-01-2012, 23:01:20
Quote
The current plan involves keeping most of the new features of RO 2, however one of the main and most requested items is the removal of the weapon upgrade system and replacing it with a standardized loadout. I can confirm that we will be implementing a system like this for the new mode.

http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=74870

YES
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: G.Drew on 26-01-2012, 00:01:15
Wow. Thats actually really good news. I might actually play it again soon.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LHeureux on 26-01-2012, 02:01:18
I might actually reinstall it if this is done
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 26-01-2012, 21:01:09
BE gone pathethic german upgrades wich completly frak up the balance!

Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Taranov on 27-01-2012, 21:01:50
Call Orchestra 2: Stalingrad Assault  ;D
After all not surprised about fail. If they do RO1 with new graphics, all ok, but they pass the CoD and MoH line, and result. And bugs, lots of bugs...
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Zrix on 27-01-2012, 22:01:36
Call Orchestra 2: Stalingrad Assault  ;D
After all not surprised about fail. If they do RO1 with new graphics, all ok, but they pass the CoD and MoH line, and result. And bugs, lots of bugs...
Indeed. They wanted to attract both the CoD/BF players and the old RO1 players. So they made the game somewhere in between and no one wanted it.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Filo90 on 17-03-2012, 02:03:24
New RO-CLASSIC mode on testing, let's try it and give feedback  ;)

http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/showthread.php?t=76827&page=2
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LHeureux on 17-03-2012, 12:03:02
HOLY SHIT, so re-installing  ;D
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 17-03-2012, 12:03:37
Can´t find any servers, despite turning off all filters. Does some experience the same issues or is the beta as dead as the main game?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 17-03-2012, 12:03:53
WHY IS THE MKB STILL INCLUDED

FFS

Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Ciupita on 17-03-2012, 13:03:12
Can´t find any servers, despite turning off all filters. Does some experience the same issues or is the beta as dead as the main game?

Many have problems with downloading.. steam servers are going nuts.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 17-03-2012, 13:03:07
Does anyone know some good upcoming mods with the british?
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LuckyOne on 17-03-2012, 13:03:42
Does anyone know some good upcoming mods with the british?

None atm, if the Mare Nostrum team gets back together and ever decides to do MN 2 on the new engine we might see some epic desert battles... But it's unlikely...
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Krätzer on 17-03-2012, 14:03:44
Doesn´t the WW1 Mod have British^^
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 17-03-2012, 14:03:32
Doesn´t the WW1 Mod have British^^
LINK PLX
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Krätzer on 17-03-2012, 15:03:02
Doesn´t the WW1 Mod have British^^
LINK PLX

http://www.ironeuropegame.com/news.php
http://www.moddb.com/mods/iron-europe-1914-1916
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 17-03-2012, 15:03:25
Doesn´t the WW1 Mod have British^^
LINK PLX

http://www.ironeuropegame.com/news.php
http://www.moddb.com/mods/iron-europe-1914-1916
Thanks!
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: th_battleaxe on 17-03-2012, 15:03:34
looks nice, wonder what's next
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 17-03-2012, 15:03:03

Many have problems with downloading.. steam servers are going nuts.
Finding no servers in-game seems to be a common problem. I "solved" it, though, by using the Steam server browser.

After playing two rounds of "RO classic" I´ve got to say that I´m quite happy with it. It´s a bit like RO1, but with the good features of RO2, like mantling, "prone sprinting", cover system etc. and makes the game more fluid than RO1. If there´s one thing I really dislike about RO1, it´s its "clumsyness". I know, a soldier loaded with full equipment isn´t as gracious as a ballerina, but RO1 was really, really clumsy. I´m glad that RO2 brings features that make the game feel more "fluid" and.
The things many people have disliked about the game seem to have been removed. I´m still a bit sceptical about the removal of the iron sight zoom. though and I´m really happy that this whole "unlock stuff"-crap is gone. Some developers seem to think that unlocking stuff keeps gamers playing their games, but fortunately TWI has jumped off that bandwagon. I don´t want too much extrinsic motivation in games. It gets boring pretty quickly.
Weapon behaviour is nice, too. I like the weapon sway and recoil so far (even though somoeone complained that the PPSh has "recoil like a .50cal".... o0) and the whole thing gives me some hope that RO2 will rise from the dead again, this time with a clear audience TWI wants to please.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Ciupita on 17-03-2012, 17:03:15
I hope that mods will be mainly made for that mode and not original unlock etc. crap.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 17-03-2012, 17:03:47
I hope that mods will be mainly made for that mode and not original unlock etc. crap.
^Word on this perkele.


Because i cannot stand the sight of Cod fanboys anymore in this game
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LHeureux on 17-03-2012, 20:03:25
Holy shit, played lots of rounds of Classic mode, it's SO GOOD! Also Countdown is cool in Classic mode.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Tuco on 18-03-2012, 03:03:49
Classic mode just renewed my faith in this game.... its what i expected it to be at release.
Title: Re: IT'S COMING! - Red Orchestra : Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hitm4k3r on 18-03-2012, 13:03:00
I´m still a bit sceptical about the removal of the iron sight zoom.

They removed the iron sight zoom? Hell yeah! That was one of the first things I really disliked when testing the game for the first time and made long range firefigths too easy. I am still following the progress of the game and hope that they will bring it on the right way. I think I will finaly buy the game, when Rising Storm and the other mods are released. Atm I will stick to RO1 and DH.
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 22-05-2012, 20:05:33
TWI released a new video statement (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiqNFuE5HFk), also RO2 will be free-to-play this weekend.
For those who already own it, a new big update will be released:

The content pack additions include:
• "Action" mode - Featuring a crosshair, easier aiming and toned down recoil,
reduced damage and open access to a wide range of weaponry Action mode is the perfect first step for players into the world of Red Orchestra.
• "Classic" mode blends the gameplay innovations of the new game with the
tactical and edgy gameplay of the original giving the fans of the first game exactly what they want.
• Mamayev Kurgan - complete new map, featuring both close-quarters battles in trenches and bunkers, as well as longer ranged combat across the famous hill in Stalingrad
• Refined and improved gameplay across the board, vehicle improvements, and way better performance and polish. We listened to the community and based on their feedback refined and tweaked almost every major feature in the game!


I might give the game another try and see what they´ve changed. I had some really high expectations but unfortunately they weren´t fullfilled so far. Maybe this´ll change in the future.
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 22-05-2012, 20:05:05
yet they dint removed MKB42 and AVT40
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: RommelBr on 23-05-2012, 02:05:06

   Red Orchestra 2 won PC Gamer's Multiplayer FPS of the Year. BUY GOTY`s Edition and ‎Tripwire Interactive announces Game of the Year Edition for Red Orchestra 2. 

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiqNFuE5HFk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiqNFuE5HFk)

   
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 24-05-2012, 10:05:07
Latest changelog (http://www.heroesofstalingrad.com/change-history/change-history-23-may-2012/). Looks like they changed quite a lot and tbh, the classic mode sounds quite promising.
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 24-05-2012, 11:05:33
What the hell? most of these maps wich are already easy victories for axis are now even more in there favour?

nothing but allied reduced this and axis increased that


Fuck that
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Tuco on 24-05-2012, 11:05:41
Builds character
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Tim270 on 24-05-2012, 14:05:15
The 'axis/allied' bias rubbish always makes me laugh.
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Tuco on 25-05-2012, 03:05:33
Patch released, also free weekend just began.
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Gurdy on 25-05-2012, 03:05:22
nothing but allied reduced this and axis increased that


(http://gyazo.com/0e8d1d9747239f62644984218462f44b.png?1337908194)


(http://gyazo.com/f96051d53796777c6e5fb9d5ef140c98.png?1337908261)


Seriously, there isn't an axis conspiracy or subliminal axis bias. I don't understand! :'(
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Tuco on 25-05-2012, 08:05:32
Anyone playing it? I think they polished it up nice, classic is 9000x better then the COD crap it was before. All they need now is content vehicles, maps, weapons, MOAR!
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: RAnDOOm on 25-05-2012, 11:05:39
It looks and feels like a brand new game now.

Classic mode brings the old RO feel back.  Fantastic update!   8)
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Krätzer on 25-05-2012, 12:05:03
RO2 Free Weekend, TEST IT! If you like it you can buy it for 8,47€, if not then not but you can test it =)
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: RAnDOOm on 25-05-2012, 12:05:18
(http://storefront.steampowered.com/v/gfx/apps/35450/extras/banner-FreeWeekend.png)

Its free people. Try it out!

steam://install/35450/
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Mud Buddha on 25-05-2012, 12:05:17
And I will. Been eyeing this series for a while but never played it. Thanks for the heads up.
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LHeureux on 25-05-2012, 13:05:09
It's awesome!  :D
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Kwiot on 25-05-2012, 17:05:17
83%.... I'm curious if I'll be able to play it and how many fps I'll have.
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LuckyOne on 25-05-2012, 17:05:47
Damn, finally patched and I'm not at home to play it... Well hopefully I will tomorrow... (Maybe I'll even manage to pursuade a friend to try it out, he ordered BF 3 at the same time I ordered RO2, and he disagreed with my "investment").
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Nissi on 25-05-2012, 18:05:38
Downloading.  ;)
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Kwiot on 25-05-2012, 18:05:24
And obviously server browser crashing the game! Great! They had almost a year to fix it and they didn't! It reallt encouraged me to buy this game! Surely!  ::)
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 25-05-2012, 19:05:21
The server browser is also giving me troubles. It seems like it doesn´t want to update and filters don´t seem to work, either. Besides, the game is running good.
Classic mode is really nice and it´s basically how the game should´ve been when it was released. Not that lame middle ground between COD-ism and RO-ism.
Now they just need to hold the player numbers and keep the game alive with free content and mods, as they´ve promised.
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: SiCaRiO on 25-05-2012, 19:05:47
just played a few hours, server browser seems fine, altrough one time it game me 0 servers, but i just restarted the game it came back to normal.

man, i cant believe how smooth it runs in my laptop, they have certainly optimiced the game, altrough i dissabled the smoothering when moving, gave me headaches ><
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LHeureux on 25-05-2012, 19:05:20
If you want no lag assured turn the lighting to low. Everything will look darker and there won't be sun lights or moon, but it's damn fluid  ;D
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Potilas on 25-05-2012, 22:05:59
Had few hours and I was not impressed. Unnatural looking animations strike face at very beginning. Music is so depressive that I have to turn it off for good after my first match. Gun sounds are ok, but noway near the fh2 quality. Too early say anything permanent for the maps, but there are plenty of maps what I would not want to play too often. Game with 64 ppl often became so spammy that I dont really care if my team win or lose.

Overall gaming is fun and rewarding when get used to how maps plays out. Knowing good places to shoot at enemies and pathways what they use will improve battlefield effectiveness greatly. For beginners game is challenging. Playing becomes little by little more enjoyable when you know what to do to gain kills.       
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: SiCaRiO on 25-05-2012, 22:05:13
my expierence was pretty avarange (altrough more fun than with FH2) until i met with this guy using VoIP, he coordinated every one of us, smoke here, smoke there, spawn as engineer, destroy this window, storm this place, etc,etc. 4 rounds win streak, amazing :D. We even did coordinated retreats when a panzer IV showed to destroy us.

its been a while since i had this much fun in a few hours :P, i guess its time to get back and sutdy for the finals :/
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Krätzer on 25-05-2012, 23:05:51
http://www.gatheryourparty.com/articles/2012/05/25/interview-rising-storm/ (http://www.gatheryourparty.com/articles/2012/05/25/interview-rising-storm/)

(http://www.gatheryourparty.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/RS_GYP_Iwo_1.jpg)
(http://www.gatheryourparty.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/RS_GYP_Iwo_2.jpg)
(http://www.gatheryourparty.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/RS_GYP_Iwo_3.jpg)
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Tuco on 26-05-2012, 04:05:32
New map (whatever its called) is a frikken blast. Hanging back with the old pu mosin and racking up the kills.
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Filo90 on 26-05-2012, 04:05:25
the game has reborn, thanks to TWI  listening our input in the beta!!!
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Tuco on 26-05-2012, 05:05:56
Also anxiously awaiting Rising Storm... looks good.
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Eglaerinion on 26-05-2012, 08:05:26
Something about the character movement/animation looks off, it feels unnatural and makes it look silly. I have only played a few round on infantry only action game mode but I'll try some of the bigger maps with vehicles today. The vehicle aspect was always the better part of RO so I expect more of those maps.
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: dutch on 26-05-2012, 14:05:10
If you like this game, we have a very good clan team running for this game. join here: http://www.FORGOTTENHONOR.COM/modules.php?name=Register

just click on the RO2 signup.

Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LuckyOne on 27-05-2012, 15:05:02
Tried it out today and I love it! They got rid of that nonsense bionic eyes zoom, and the current IS zoom is still enough to scout and see everything if you focus. The game is fairly slower paced with everyone advancing cautiously. Rarely you see people running around and hipfiring MGs all over the place. Plus the MGs are real suppressive weapons now, when one gets you in their sight you better keep your head low, as trying to return fire is a death sentence...
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: titsmcgee852 on 27-05-2012, 15:05:37
Bought off steam, can't wait till semester finishes so I can try this bad boy out :D
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LHeureux on 27-05-2012, 15:05:00
Tried it out today and I love it! They got rid of that nonsense bionic eyes zoom, and the current IS zoom is still enough to scout and see everything if you focus. The game is fairly slower paced with everyone advancing cautiously. Rarely you see people running around and hipfiring MGs all over the place. Plus the MGs are real suppressive weapons now, when one gets you in their sight you better keep your head low, as trying to return fire is a death sentence...
First game where I RARELY return fire on MGs. Heck even in DH and RO1 it was easier to return fire on the MGs because the supression was not affecting your sway like now.
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 27-05-2012, 16:05:13
The latest patch together with the classic mode has really turned RO2 into a game that is worthy to be the successor of RO1.
Classic mode combines the slow-paced, deadly firefights from RO1 with new elements from RO2, that make it less sluggish and more fluid.
Because guns are so deadly, the game becomes more tactical. Teamwork is really important and lone wolfs really have a hard time. Machine guns are really good, as well, being able to supress enemies effectively. The whole supression system works like a charm and if there are bullets landing next to you or explosives going off, you really keep your head down.
Things like magazine checks, weapon handling, prone-to-sprint-action with one key, the sprint system or no unlock BS all improve game play and make it feel like an updated RO1.
The atmosphere of the game is quite intense, thanks to native languages and the dynamic voice system. Some weapon sounds are a bit weak, IMHO, but otherwise sounds are good, especially when someone slowly dies next to you...really sobering...

There are some minor issues I have, but otherwise the Devs have done a good job reviving the game.
Now we can only hope that the playerbase won´t go down after the free weekend and that we´ll see more maps (played my first costum map today) and generally more content in the future.
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Kwiot on 27-05-2012, 17:05:52
After a few hours o playing I don't know what to think about this game...

What I like the most:
-infantry fighting
-the environment look really realistic

What I don't like:
-usually small maps which becomes quite boring after some time, because each round is the same
-flanking doesn't exist because of small maps
-I really miss maps where tanks can support infantry
-I couldn't feel any teamplay... Unless I played with friends using, I wouldn't feel at all...
-tanks maps are really small
-getting better ammo weapons with gaining experience is quite unfair for me...
- sounds of weapons - especially when I fire with MG34 I can only think about popcorn making in my microwave oven....

So, I'm not so eager to buy this game...
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: SiCaRiO on 27-05-2012, 19:05:29
dont worrie about the maps, they will add bigger maps in future patches, just like ostfront.

man, i LOVE tank combat, finally i feel like im in a huge heavy machine ,  you can feel the engine struglering to accelerate, the turret moves slow, but precise enough to snipe at great distances.

I will buy it just for that, no other game makes me feel the same way when talking about vehicles
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Tuco on 28-05-2012, 01:05:51
Need apc's before they implement larger maps though.
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Sgt.Radman on 08-06-2012, 12:06:46
I've been thinking a-lot about this game, pondering, and I'm still not sure where would be the cheapest site to buy it from.

As much for the realism I'm definitely down for that. I'm just watched a video where they describe the fails they made and that they polished for GOTY edition.

Another question : Deluxe edition gives you what exactly? In plain speech.
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LuckyOne on 08-06-2012, 13:06:27
TWI sent some guest passes so check your Steam inventories and bring a few friends to battle with you next time!
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 08-06-2012, 13:06:16
If anyone needs a guest pas let me know
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: SiCaRiO on 08-06-2012, 13:06:13
same here, 3 passes and my friesnts already brought the game
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LuckyOne on 16-06-2012, 12:06:39
RO 2 just opened a mapping contest! 30 000 $ in cash and prizes await the best mappers of the modding community there...

http://www.heroesofstalingrad.com/counterattack-map-making-competition/

Any good mappers planning to give it a shot? I mean, 10 000 $ and a custom laptop for the first place is a lot more than what you could expect of some other developer companies out there.  ;)
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: dutch on 27-06-2012, 14:06:20
I also have still 2 guest passes for anyone who wants to try this awesome game. Just drop me a pm with your steam account.
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Natty on 27-06-2012, 15:06:48
10,000 $ is quite cheap for a company to outsource the production of a full new map. I'm pretty sure the winners will be only mappers who create a shitload of new content as well for them, including fx, sounds, textures etc....

Smart way to outsource production actually :)
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Kradovech on 27-06-2012, 16:06:49
Thats one way of looking at this i suppose...

How long have you and the other devs been creating content for free for a certain other company?

:P
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 27-06-2012, 18:06:09
I also have still 2 guest passes for anyone who wants to try this awesome game. Just drop me a pm with your steam account.
May I have one?  Suppose i should give this game a try given the opportunity.
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: dutch on 30-06-2012, 02:06:38
I also have still 2 guest passes for anyone who wants to try this awesome game. Just drop me a pm with your steam account.
May I have one?  Suppose i should give this game a try given the opportunity.

sure :)
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Ciupita on 01-07-2012, 18:07:28
2 guest passes here too.
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Ts4EVER on 01-07-2012, 19:07:16
Can one play singleplayer with the guest passes?
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Ciupita on 01-07-2012, 19:07:59
Can one play singleplayer with the guest passes?

Nay
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: SiCaRiO on 01-07-2012, 20:07:03
it had a single player? xD
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Kradovech on 01-07-2012, 20:07:35
Single player is pretty much multiplayer maps with bots, same as battlefield. You won't miss much.
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 15-08-2012, 14:08:38
Just started getting into this game again.  It ran great (except for crashing all the fucking time) the first couple of nights.  Now it is un-playable at like 5FPS.  It is shit right from the minute I load in.  I feel lucky if I can select axis or allied at round start because the cursor jumps around so much.  Google was not much help.  Any ideas?  I had like 20 hours into it way back when and I don't recall any problems. 

Stock maps by the way (though I have a couple of custom maps).
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: titsmcgee852 on 16-08-2012, 10:08:30
New trailer for Rising Storm! The pacific campaign mod, looking very good!

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsYn0g3PQ2I&feature=player_embedded

My only hope is that FH2 one day ventures down this path.
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Krätzer on 16-08-2012, 13:08:20
New trailer for Rising Storm! The pacific campaign mod, looking very good!

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsYn0g3PQ2I&feature=player_embedded

My only hope is that FH2 one day ventures down this path.

It´s not an Mod, it´s an Stand Alone Game :p
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: titsmcgee852 on 16-08-2012, 13:08:17
Ah okay, still, very impressive.
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Alakazou on 18-08-2012, 01:08:36
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27jXLqAuDfY&list=UUbu2SsF-Or3Rsn3NxqODImw&index=1&feature=plcp
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Wilhelm on 18-08-2012, 02:08:10
Amazing!  ;D
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 18-08-2012, 02:08:19
New trailer for Rising Storm! The pacific campaign mod, looking very good!

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsYn0g3PQ2I&feature=player_embedded

My only hope is that FH2 one day ventures down this path.

It´s not an Mod, it´s an Stand Alone Game :p

Shame......I was in hopes I could just launch RO2 and play some mix maps.  Still getting this regardless you guys have done some amazing work.
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 18-08-2012, 02:08:25
Fuck that trailer in the ass.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsYn0g3PQ2I&feature=player_embedded

Watch that one.....That clears any and all misgivings I might have had.
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: ajappat on 18-08-2012, 07:08:12
So how much will it cost?

Knowing that RO2 was piece of shit, I don't see much reason to pay for clone of it.


Btw, about different matter, earlier this week I went to RO2 and noticed, that actually more people were playing FH2 than RO2 at that moment. It was evening time maybe 18:00 in Finland  ::)
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Krätzer on 18-08-2012, 10:08:01
You should know that if we could make Money with FH2.. or FH3 we would do it.

UP to 70 hours of work on an Tank Model? Why the Hell should i do it for nothing.
100 Hours for 1P Rifle why i should do it for free?
And by God, i don´t know how long it takes to create a FH2 Map but it will be more then 150 hours.

Just cause EA and Dice don´t allow us to sell it we don´t.

And about Servers, my Community Server is pretty filled most Evenings, located in Germany...
(http://cache.www.gametracker.com/server_info/80.242.152.220:7777/b_560_95_1.png) (http://www.gametracker.com/server_info/80.242.152.220:7777/)
(http://cache.www.gametracker.com/images/graphs/server_players.php?GSID=1537636&start=-1m&request=09226069530897052) (http://cache.www.gametracker.com/images/graphs/server_players.php?GSID=1537636&start=-1w&request=022605504693038025) (http://cache.www.gametracker.com/images/graphs/server_players.php?GSID=1537636&start=-1d&request=06955488763629035)
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: RAnDOOm on 18-08-2012, 12:08:49
Btw, about different matter, earlier this week I went to RO2 and noticed, that actually more people were playing FH2 than RO2 at that moment. It was evening time maybe 18:00 in Finland  ::)

I guess its that time for you to buy some new reading glasses.....  ::)
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: RAnDOOm on 18-08-2012, 12:08:12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27jXLqAuDfY&list=UUbu2SsF-Or3Rsn3NxqODImw&index=1&feature=plcp

Red Orchestra 2: Rising Storm - 4 Exclusive Multiplayer Maps

Looking good, very good.
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Ciupita on 18-08-2012, 13:08:24
Oh boy I'm gonna play Japanese all the time. BANZAIIII!
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Ts4EVER on 18-08-2012, 14:08:35
Yeah looks really good, even for a pacific war grinch like me.
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Alakazou on 18-08-2012, 20:08:01
Oh boy I'm gonna play Japanese all the time. BANZAIIII!
And I'll be an american, so I'll try to hunt you all the time :)
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 18-08-2012, 21:08:59
Oh boy I'm gonna play Japanese all the time. BANZAIIII!
Im with ya on that lass!

Bayonet on arisaka! FOR THE EMPEROR!
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 18-08-2012, 21:08:15
Oh boy I'm gonna play Japanese all the time. BANZAIIII!
Im with ya on that lass!

Bayonet on arisaka! FOR THE EMPEROR!

Yup...All Nip all the time!  Can't wait.
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Thorondor123 on 18-08-2012, 21:08:15
Japan for the win! Bayonets on everything!
Oh boy I'm gonna play Japanese all the time. BANZAIIII!
And I'll be an american, so I'll try to hunt you all the time :)
You are dead mate.
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Alakazou on 18-08-2012, 21:08:10
tell it to my flamethrower  ;D
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: THeTA0123 on 24-08-2012, 20:08:27
i am really looking forward to the japanese machine guns

Type 11
Type 96
Type 99 (BAYONET!)

or the type 3, 1 and 92 Heavy machine guns
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Yustax on 15-11-2012, 02:11:43
I bring back this threat to express my disappointment in the lack of a scope in the laffete MG34. Why is that? I mean, you already got a bunch of things that are way more dangerous than the same emplacement weapon that its always in the same spot.
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Steel_Lion_FIN on 15-12-2012, 13:12:52
Free weekend and 75% off!
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Sgt.Radman on 31-03-2013, 18:03:09
anybody still playing this? I just bought it, so I'm still on the SP part, since it's WAAAAY more detailed then most (read:ALL OTHER) games.
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Archimonday on 31-03-2013, 18:03:44
Was playing all day yesterday. Had a great moment where I found myself in a shell hole, and got jumped by a German squad. Using my SVT-40 I took out two of them, before shooting the other two with my pistol. Pile of bodies then accompanied me in the shell hole, whilst I exchanged skirmish fire with other Germans in the shell holes a little farther on. Was doing good, until a fresh round of artillery from my own team blew me into a bloody stump.
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Sgt.Radman on 31-03-2013, 18:03:12
Everybody that wants-to can add me on Steam : Sgt.Lazarus
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Paavopesusieni on 05-04-2013, 13:04:17
Just bought this game for 2.69e on Steam, not a bad deal :D.
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LuckyOne on 05-04-2013, 16:04:19
Just bought this game for 2.69e on Steam, not a bad deal :D.

You do realize you could have got it for 1$ here (although that would be scumbag-like, paying a dollar for two awesome games).

https://www.humblebundle.com/weekly#stats
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: Alakazou on 05-04-2013, 21:04:14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kYFDYdyk_1U

Go to 12:29 :)
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: |7th|Nighthawk on 06-04-2013, 00:04:11
Nice video, Alakazou. John Gibson really has some points. I like his idea of mods being a major part of games that should not be forgotten. I guess that modding teams are not big enough for modern games. As he stated, newer engines and graphics require more work on the physics, models etc.
I hope that modding will still exist in 10 years even though there are those obstacles.
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: luftwaffe.be on 06-04-2013, 18:04:31
Ok just bought it from the steam sale. I can miss 3€ to try out a game !

Bit confused though : steam is downloading Red Orch2 and red Orch 2 beta, what's up with that  ???
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: LuckyOne on 06-04-2013, 21:04:17
Ok just bought it from the steam sale. I can miss 3€ to try out a game !

Bit confused though : steam is downloading Red Orch2 and red Orch 2 beta, what's up with that  ???

I don't think you need the beta, unless you want to play the buggier, unfinished version of RO 2...

Seems that every time they try to fix something they break something else in the process, but it's much more enjoyable now than in the day it was released...
Title: Re: Red Orchestra 2: Heroes of Stalingrad
Post by: hslan.totaler_humbug on 08-04-2013, 17:04:11
Bought it aswell. Can´t miss the whole Red Orchestra package for 4,74€