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Announcements => Announcements => Topic started by: azreal on 26-02-2012, 20:02:29
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Update coming in 20 minutes. Apologize for tonight's delay, had a bit of trouble getting a working image-editing software. Anywho...
Fire Honey
Enjoy!
http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/
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CHURCHILL CROCODILE?
Das vielen flammenpanzers?
The lifebuoy british flamethrower?
Das flammenwerfer 35 und 42?
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M3/M3A1 Stuart with Flamethrower?
Aaaaanyway, whichever flame-based weapon/vehicle it is its going to be amazing.
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Honey...hum Maybe Stuart Honey version ?
french female soldier ^^ ?
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something soviet??
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SPITFIRE IX
aaawww YEAH
Hopefully no more overpowerd FW 190's
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Very nice!
I like it! 8)
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The new Spit has the potential to become my favorite plane!
Great work devs!
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My guess was right !
Nice update !
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Great to the the IX spitfire, good work clivewell.
Do I spot a second plane behind beaufighter in hanger?
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What is difference between this new and our old spit?
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What is difference between this new and our old spit?
Much much more engine power and higher top speed
and manouverbility
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so in theory the sptifire should be able to outclimb the 109 on mareth now?
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Great to the the IX spitfire, good work clivewell.
Do I spot a second plane behind beaufighter in hanger?
Looks like a Fury, or a scout plane.
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Looks to me like another beaufighter in there...
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What is difference between this new and our old spit?
Much much more engine power and higher top speed
and manouverbility
Yeah finally the spit will stand a chance against the almighty FW...
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The IX was especialy designed to counter the FW190.
By the time of the IX ingame, they would be equipped with the Merlin 66 wich gave 1720 horsepower engine output
Compared to 1470 of the Merlin engine of the V(b)
This engine improved everything, and especialy high altitude combat
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Looks to me like another beaufighter in there...
If you look closely at the picture, you'd see that the plane behind has either: biplane wings, or a wing over the fuselage.
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Congrats to Clivelwil. Been seeing his high quality models out there for a while now, so good to see his spit in FH !
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Looks to me like another beaufighter in there...
If you look closely at the picture, you'd see that the plane behind has either: biplane wings, or a wing over the fuselage.
Nah, that's just the angle of the screenshot. Could as well be the wing of a beaufighter, just compare the two tails. I'm not saying it is, but it looks like it. :)
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Very nice update! Always nice to see new aircraft. Thanks devs.
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Now all I gotta do is learn to fly.
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Now all I gotta do is learn to fly.
I gave that up some time ago. My Wirbelwind however won´t care what it rips apart. If I can´t have fun in aircraft, nobody shall! >:(
Nice update nonetheless!
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Nice update once again! Have always loved the Spit! Mooaar planes ftw! Also stuart looks great! ......and you show us again that awesome looking test map!! NOOOOOO!!!! Me wants! ;D
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Congrats to Clivelwil. Been seeing his high quality models out there for a while now, so good to see his spit in FH !
I would love to see him joining Fh2 to concentrate on airplane creation :)
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I heard rumours of secret bombing missions against unsuspecting online players ;)
(http://www.clivewil.battlefieldsingleplayer.com/images/LancProtect2.jpg) (http://www.battlefieldsingleplayer.com/forum/lofiversion/index.php?t16144.html)
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Woooahh! That's Operation Harvester map with Lancasters! ....falls from chair
Real nice screenshot DJ! I know clivewill had done the model but I've never seen it finished and implemented in-game! :o
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^*drools*
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Looks to me like another beaufighter in there...
If you look closely at the picture, you'd see that the plane behind has either: biplane wings, or a wing over the fuselage.
Nah, that's just the angle of the screenshot. Could as well be the wing of a beaufighter, just compare the two tails. I'm not saying it is, but it looks like it. :)
Allow me to take away the doubt: it IS another beaufighter
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Woooahh! That's Operation Harvester map with Lancasters! ....falls from chair
Real nice screenshot DJ! I know clivewill had done the model but I've never seen it finished and implemented in-game! :o
Thought so too. I put a link on the image if you want to do more drooling. Of course, Burt is just an example of Clive's work, I don't want to necessarily push this for inclusion in FH as the type of model has to fit into gameplay.
Ya know, I've actually seen a REAL Lancaster fly over ... Lancaster, UK, which where I live, LOL :D
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i sat inside a lancaster, saw it start up at very close range and saw it take off and display
there is something special about the lancaster...
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(http://e.images.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/15296772.jpg)
Indeed :P
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i sat inside a lancaster, saw it start up at very close range and saw it take off and display
Envious look >:(
(http://e.images.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/15296772.jpg)
Indeed :P
:D I should probably print that out and post it up @ my local pub.
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Woooahh! That's Operation Harvester map with Lancasters! ....falls from chair
Real nice screenshot DJ! I know clivewill had done the model but I've never seen it finished and implemented in-game! :o
Thought so too. I put a link on the image if you want to do more drooling. Of course, Burt is just an example of Clive's work, I don't want to necessarily push this for inclusion in FH as the type of model has to fit into gameplay.
Ya know, I've actually seen a REAL Lancaster fly over ... Lancaster, UK, which where I live, LOL :D
Thanks for the link DJ....absolutely stunning! One day hopefully we will see that beauty in FH2.
Re: REAL Lancaster: I can only say that I am really envious! :)
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Spitfire IX is a nice pick!
Now back to that Bf-109E7/trop. They are clearly inferior to any Spit, except climb performance.
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Woooahh! That's Operation Harvester map with Lancasters! ....falls from chair
Real nice screenshot DJ! I know clivewill had done the model but I've never seen it finished and implemented in-game! :o
Thought so too. I put a link on the image if you want to do more drooling. Of course, Burt is just an example of Clive's work, I don't want to necessarily push this for inclusion in FH as the type of model has to fit into gameplay.
Ya know, I've actually seen a REAL Lancaster fly over ... Lancaster, UK, which where I live, LOL :D
Thanks for the link DJ....absolutely stunning! One day hopefully we will see that beauty in FH2.
Re: REAL Lancaster: I can only say that I am really envious! :)
to be honest I dont think heavy bombers such as the lancaster (or the B17) have any real place in FH2. If at all they should be used as "kits" as in FH1, where you sort of remote control a bomber for one straight flight across the map and can control the bombing..
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We have barely explored the aerial aspect so I wont say never to bombers as yet. a map like battle of Britain or Bombing the Reich could well exist.
Although to make modeling such things worth it, it would require a bit more than just one map...Sure will LOVE to see that night time pyrotechnics though :)
OT,
the spitfire is one of the most beautiful airplane models in FH2 so we can never have enough imo.
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We have barely explored the aerial aspect so I wont say never to bombers as yet. a map like battle of Britain or Bombing the Reich could well exist.
Although to make modeling such things worth it, it would require a bit more than just one map...Sure will LOVE to see that night time pyrotechnics though :)
OT,
the spitfire is one of the most beautiful airplane models in FH2 so we can never have enough imo.
maybe you got me wrong. im fully in favour of aerial or even aerial/naval maps (i would love to see FH1's Midway map (the new one)) in FH2...
I just think that you would run them with mid-sized bombers max (e.g. ju88s or similar).
But just lets wait and see..
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oh and the spitfire is a beauty indeed!
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Oh yeah the new Spit on the Block. Tremble German pilots, you now have a worthy adversary :)
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We have barely explored the aerial aspect so I wont say never to bombers as yet. a map like battle of Britain or Bombing the Reich could well exist.
Although to make modeling such things worth it, it would require a bit more than just one map...Sure will LOVE to see that night time pyrotechnics though :)
Of course for such maps the view distance would have to be increased.
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Wonderful update as always. Many thanks Devs. 8)
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Spitfire IX is a nice pick!
Now back to that Bf-109E7/trop. They are clearly inferior to any Spit, except climb performance.
German bias again... I like it :P 8)
But I think that the Emils can't beat the spit IX on climb(at least they shouldn't). The Gustavs could... especially the G-10 and onwards
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Any 109 with DB-605 on it will do. We just need a model and someone willing to code.
But hey, let's appreciate this sleek beauty first! It's always good when the devs bring more stuffs into the game. Be it another variant of something that has been on the game long time ago.
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Spitfire IX is a nice pick!
Now back to that Bf-109E7/trop. They are clearly inferior to any Spit, except climb performance.
here's a touching story
They simply where inferior to the spit :/
just as the spit suddently became inferior to the FW190
Then came Ze Spitfire VII and IX
Und den ze BF 109 G came
and then tally ho came various heavy powerd spits(Like napier griffin engined spitfires)
Meanwhile the italian airforce remained superior in everything
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It is Rolls Royce Griffon, and that thing was supercharged for low to medium altitude only. Spitfire looks bad ass with them but doesn't sound as sweet as Merlin.
Il-2:Sturmovik only experience:
Meanwhile the Italian planes (not air force) used slightly obsolete German engines but remained superior in terms of combat flight characteristics. It is just their light armaments couldn't catch up. However, like Russian Yaks, Lavochkins, and most Japanese fighters they are excellent performers and have this what I call aerobatic-like qualities, but they are somewhat designed just like that, and seemed not to win by dominating certain aspect of the battle. What I mean is: you can put any strange or even extreme maneuver and won't experience any aileron reversals, enter sudden spins, or that aerodynamic problems too often in difficult situations (like high G turn with sudden opposite bank or high speed dive exit followed by sudden turn or sudden engine RPM cut, all these cartoonish flying techniques). But they are just that. Most American fighters can outdive them safely and run away or climb higher (late war ones). Most German planes too, or just keep climbing into higher altitude although you may not outclimb the Japanese ones, but their power will start to diminish and you'll gain more advantage over them.
For example P-47Ds are a big ass plane, it has huge engine and powerful one (nearly 2,100 HP at 20,000 feet above) clearly this thing dominates the high altitude battle. In high speed, it is still maneuverable (I don't whether this is realistic) eventhough it has elliptical wingtips. Meanwhile, it is said that it has excellent diving capability (superior to most planes in WW2). But the feel on the control is steady: you can't go far, but not too often. This plane won't tolerate sudden break from extreme turns, it experienced a lot reversals at low altitude high speed pass, making it completely useless against taunting FW-190s at low altitude. But you can win: it has a big engine, and it dives like crazy, the badguys can't just run away.
I keep in mind that this is only Il-2 game, it is still not realistic as what many people claimed, although with a lot of game modifications already. But it pretty much tell somewhat similar story with what I read in many historical books account and Wikipedia excerpts. It is never been simple to compare Spit vs Bf109 like TV channels did (especially History/Military Channel). But the E7, yeah you'll feel inferior in it, but I'm clearly not Werner Mölders, he said that the Emils were great. Maybe it was his tactical superiority over early RAF's or maybe he was just a great pilot like he really does.
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Armament was indeed the achilles heel of italian planes. Many italian fighter planes where outstanding machines well balanced in speed, manouverbility and armour
But then came the armament.........
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Re planes in IL-2:
At least the programmers have put huge amount time of research into flight test reports, combat reports, etc. and the flight model was constantly developed until iCoD. From what I have seen, people who have actually flown the real airplanes have praised the game's representation of those. So while there is definite RUSSIAN BIAS, I would still say it's closer to reality than most.
That P-47 dominates more and more the higher it goes (the large wing is actually an advantage here, and so is the WTFHUEG turbocharger) but is wholly unsuitable in a low-altitude dogfight sounds about right from what I've read. The thing was, it really didn't need to dogfight down low, because it had the speed and climb rate to get the hell out of Dodge.
Also, just as with the Jug against the FW, the trick with Emil against the Spits of any kind is to keep up your speed. The 109 was a zoom'n'boom kind of fighter, furballing against the much more manoeuvrable Spit is a suicide, even more so at low speeds when the Spit's lower wing loading and high turn rate starts to show its edge. Just imagine that you're flying a lighter 110 (which was also a decent fighter provided it did not try to turn with the Spit).
One thing I've learned (but which I still have not learned to follow) from IL-2 is that even when flying a supposedly nimble aircraft, you should still prefer speed over turning. Speed can always be exchanged for altitude, and especially with early-war planes, speed is hard to get. Turning becomes useful only if the enemy catches you unaware, or you are much slower to begin with.
The problem with the Italian and many Japanese planes is that they are just that, acrobatic planes with light guns bolted on them. Sure, they're pleasant to fly and will turn on a dime, but all that is of little use if the opponent is much faster and can engage and disengage at will, and if the opponent's firepower will tear you a new one in no time but you will hardly scratch him in the same time. Only if the opponent is stupid enough to enter one-on-one turnfights is the manoeuverability really useful. If the opponent uses any teamwork, they will still be able to come out on top because of their armour.
A good example to drive the point home is that by the time the Red Baron finally met his match in a stray AAMG bullet, he was already relying on the enemy's stupidity to expose themselves: while the Triplane indeed "spun like a devil and climbed like a monkey" and out-turned everything, it was already notably slower than the opposition in early 1918 and could not even keep up with them, much less catch them.
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Spitfire IX is a nice pick!
Now back to that Bf-109E7/trop. They are clearly inferior to any Spit, except climb performance.
here's a touching story
They simply where inferior to the spit :/
just as the spit suddently became inferior to the FW190
Then came Ze Spitfire VII and IX
Und den ze BF 109 G came
and then tally ho came various heavy powerd spits(Like napier griffin engined spitfires)
Meanwhile the italian airforce remained superior in everything
...except in pilots :P
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The problem with the Italian and many Japanese planes is that they are just that, acrobatic planes with light guns bolted on them.
Italian planes=Very fast, manouverable, Good armour, no guns
Japanese planes=Very fast, manouverable No armour and decent guns
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Woooahh! That's Operation Harvester map with Lancasters! ....falls from chair
Real nice screenshot DJ! I know clivewill had done the model but I've never seen it finished and implemented in-game! :o
Thought so too. I put a link on the image if you want to do more drooling. Of course, Burt is just an example of Clive's work, I don't want to necessarily push this for inclusion in FH as the type of model has to fit into gameplay.
Ya know, I've actually seen a REAL Lancaster fly over ... Lancaster, UK, which where I live, LOL :D
Thanks for the link DJ....absolutely stunning! One day hopefully we will see that beauty in FH2.
Re: REAL Lancaster: I can only say that I am really envious! :)
to be honest I dont think heavy bombers such as the lancaster (or the B17) have any real place in FH2. If at all they should be used as "kits" as in FH1, where you sort of remote control a bomber for one straight flight across the map and can control the bombing..
Just occured to me after seeing the flyover in Point du Hoc that the Lancaster could be used in a similiar capacity.
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update this week?
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No update this week?
(http://okayface.com/okay-face.jpg)
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:'(
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No update, again? Either azreal is not available to do the news, or something really big is going on..
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No update, again? Either azreal is not available to do the news, or something really big is going on..
Bring on the conspiracies!
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No update, again? Either azreal is not available to do the news, or something really big is going on..
What do you mean again? We have had a ton of updates even though very little content has been shown. Different from in years past where we went months without updates just cause there was nothing new to show
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No update, again? Either azreal is not available to do the news, or something really big is going on..
What do you mean again? We have had a ton of updates even though very little content has been shown. Different from in years past where we went months without updates just cause there was nothing new to show
Well, there was that one period a couple of years ago when we got weekly updates, but people got greedy and it all just left a bitter aftertaste. Let's not get into that discussion again.
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Not sure which time you are talking about? Over the past few month we have been getting very regular updates in comparison to previous times is all im saying.
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Nice Spitfire, always love me a bit of Roll Royce Merlin engine
Example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wpq4Tu2NnrQ
On a related note, shouldn't the Spit have Invasion stripes on it?
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Nice Spitfire, always love me a bit of Roll Royce Merlin engine
Example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wpq4Tu2NnrQ
On a related note, shouldn't the Spit have Invasion stripes on it?
yes it should.
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Not sure which time you are talking about? Over the past few month we have been getting very regular updates in comparison to previous times is all im saying.
I think it was back in 2006.
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Zomg new update but no new update thread.. What do?
http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/news.php