War Thunder

[Kalkalash]

German and Russian tank tech trees have been released:

[Musti]

Hey, that's not bad, pretty good list .

[DaWorg!]

Not sure whether you are serious or sarcastic . I´m not worried about Germans being too weak, I´m worried about exactly this inclusion of wacky stuff. Counter stuff that doesn´t belong into the game with more stuff that doesn´t belong into the game and then this happens:



That´s what killed WoT for me. ^^

There's already T-54, IS-4, Panther II and KT with KwK 46 in that tech tree

[THeTA0123]

Note

the IS4 will have the SAME gun as the IS2

[Butcher]

There's already T-54, IS-4, Panther II and KT with KwK 46 in that tech tree

Yeah, I noticed that too. But it´s not over the top ridiculous like in WOT. War Thunder at least took several models of the tanks rather than just one. I also like the difference in trees between the Germans and Russians: It looks like they split German SPGs into StuGs and Tank hunters. It would make sense to have the Hetzer only available after all the StuGs, but they look like two totally different trees, while Russians just have the SPG tree. Therefor Russians have a bigger Heavy tank tree.

Well, we will have to see. Is there a possible release in planning yet?

[Musti]

Its mostly high tiers that are getting non-WWII tanks, so all you have to do is stick to the low tiers.
TBH I wouldn't mind some UFO-tanks (like you get in WOT) with silly modifications, as long as there are historical battle modes available, not gonna happen at first, but it could be a possibility later on, if the game picks up on player numbers.

[THeTA0123]

I am glad the tanks are getting the guns they should have. That kingtiger of yours will be able to fight an IS4 head to head in wich skill will matter more then firepower

[Butcher]

Wondering about the tier of the vehicles - especially for historical battles and full real battles. They can´t match T-34/85 vs Panthers on equal player numbers. The same goes for Panzer III and T-34. The difference in performance between tanks is much more noticeable than on aircraft. At least the weapons in air-combat can cause damage even if there is a tier difference. In tank combat it would just bounce.

Alternative would be that the fights are matched wrong, with Panthers not seeing a single T-34 at all.

Didn´t the devs once claim they tier the vehicles by year of appearance?

[Battlefieldfan45 (CroPanzer)]

I'll only play it if they add Maus

[Sander93]

Didn´t the devs once claim they tier the vehicles by year of appearance?

They apparently do so for aircraft, yes.

As for the tanks, going to be a tricky balance indeed, wonder how they'll end up doing it. Ofcourse generally speaking, the lower a tank's tier the more mobile it is so it can still kill higher tier tanks by driving around and hitting the side/rear armor. In WoT that simply doesn't work because of the HP system, but with a realistic damage model smaller tanks can just outflank bigger ones.

[THeTA0123]

Well, keep in mind, for example, you CAN defeat an IS3 from the side with a mere Panzer IV if you get close enough. In WOT you could penetrate it maybe once, twice..3 if lucky, then he turned his gaint cannon and One shotted you.

But in Warthunder, if you penetrate and hit lets say, an engine or ammo rack. Thats boom boom baby.

[Battlefieldfan45 (CroPanzer)]

THere was an RNG epizode recently where a Chaffee ammoracked an E100 so such things happen in WoT but on rare occasions and so should IRL, I mean PzIV against an IS3? That's a one sided match.

[THeTA0123]

In wot, the IS3 would win 99% of the times, unless a lucky hit happens


in Warthunder this would be very much diffrent

A person with high skill who uses tactic and be able to outflank/outmanouver an heavier/high tiered opponent will infact be rewarded for it.

ALSO
WHERE IS THE BRUMMBAR?   

[Musti]

You can't possibly know that theta, you haven't even played the game
BUT if WT will have that amozing one-shot kill FH2 style (or at least something similar) it would be great equaliser for all tanks.

[Torenico]

Still no Maus

No Maus in WT = WT crap game.