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Re: Tragedy and gun violence
« Reply #345 on: 29-01-2013, 19:01:36 »
many alchoholic beverages have benefits to health. As stated above, alchohol spirits are great disinfectants. Minor alchohol usage can also make conversations shit loads easier  ;D


If you want a better comparison, try smoking. But I'm sure you'll find a large amount of people willing to put ban on it too  ;)
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Yet i have something against anti-drink, anti-smoke, anti-gun,anti-Car Nazi's. Fuck em. I dont smoke, i dont drink, i have a cheap eco car and i have some bolt actions rifles. Some asshole hippy does not tell me what to have and what to do :/
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Re: Tragedy and gun violence
« Reply #346 on: 29-01-2013, 20:01:39 »
Smoking is a bad comparison, smoking typically kills the smoker, while second hand smoke may be a problem, it isn't a severe one. Alcohol not only can kill the user, but kills thousands of innocent people every year due to drunk drivers alone. Just because alcohol is considered fun, doesn't make the deaths it causes any better than those caused by weapons.

Of course alcohol has uses, I'm referring to the drinking of it, not it's use a disinfectant. Also, the alcohol being healthy thing has mostly been proven to by myth, it is better than drinking polluted water, but do we only have polluted water to drink anymore?

I'm not saying that is should be banned, I'm against banning it, but if our governments truly cared about our safety and welfare as they claim to, it would be viewed as massive a concern as firearms are. Say what you will, but there are other reasons for the banning of firearms other than public safety. If public safety was the chief concern here, you'd see other restrictions as strict as firearms laws.
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Re: Tragedy and gun violence
« Reply #347 on: 29-01-2013, 22:01:57 »
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/01/29/georgia-man-guns-down-immigrant-after-gps-sends-him-to-wrong-driveway/

Woohoo! Bring more innocent deaths!

Good thing this guy defended his house from lost people!

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Re: Tragedy and gun violence
« Reply #348 on: 30-01-2013, 01:01:14 »
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/01/29/georgia-man-guns-down-immigrant-after-gps-sends-him-to-wrong-driveway/

Woohoo! Bring more innocent deaths!

Good thing this guy defended his house from lost people!




 I don't understand why Europeans think they belong talking about American policy that they can not change. Yes, I'm not totally against more background checking, but being so naive as to think that putting up a global gun ban here will end the issue, is idiotic.

Simply put, it won't work in the US, in the end a complete and total ban would probably lead to more violence than we have ever seen before here. Most gun owners would refuse to give up their guns, many would retaliate violently and most others would hide the ones they own. We have so many guns per capita that attempting to track them down and effectively seize them by force would be impossible to do. In the US we have culture conflicts that Europe doesn't have simply because European populations, no matter how heterogeneous they may seem, are nowhere near as diverse as the population of the United States. Yes, it may sound primitive, but when such different cultures collide and when many insist on holding onto older, more primeval customs and traditions, violence is unavoidable.

As terrible as it sounds, the only way things will change here will be to wait it out. Trying to rapidly force change is a stupid decision when it is actually already starting to happen at a visible rate. Things will get better in the United States, other cultures are slowly becoming more accepted in most of the country and differences are no longer being frowned upon. The subculture of violence is slowly tearing itself to pieces and in it's place minorities are now joining the American middle class and integrating with other groups. Everyone needs to calm down and wait, posting shit about how we could change will not change anything, people need to start dealing with their own issues as individuals before attacking the values of another country. Wish more Americans would.
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Re: Tragedy and gun violence
« Reply #349 on: 30-01-2013, 03:01:18 »
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/01/29/georgia-man-guns-down-immigrant-after-gps-sends-him-to-wrong-driveway/

Woohoo! Bring more innocent deaths!

Good thing this guy defended his house from lost people!



This was just a crime, not related to the discussion. Even if the murder didn't have a gun, he intended to murder, gun or not. I do agree with better data base to check the record of everyone and reduce crime gun related violence, not that criminals respect the law anyway.

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Re: Tragedy and gun violence
« Reply #351 on: 30-01-2013, 05:01:47 »
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Re: Tragedy and gun violence
« Reply #352 on: 30-01-2013, 11:01:10 »

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In the US we have culture conflicts that Europe doesn't have simply because European populations, no matter how heterogeneous they may seem, are nowhere near as diverse as the population of the United States. Yes, it may sound primitive, but when such different cultures collide and when many insist on holding onto older, more primeval customs and traditions, violence is unavoidable.

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Are you seriously suggesting that the US is more diverse in culture than Europe ? Really ?

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Re: Tragedy and gun violence
« Reply #353 on: 30-01-2013, 15:01:18 »
Yes, I am stating a fact. Compared to the United States most European countries look very homogenous. Only reason that there appear to be more minorities in Europe than there are is because of racism. Many of you try to portray immigration as an invasion, for example the North Africans in France and the minority groups the former Deutsche Demokratische Republik. They typically commit less acts of violence over it than the United States, but it's far from tolerance.

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Re: Tragedy and gun violence
« Reply #354 on: 30-01-2013, 15:01:21 »
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/01/29/georgia-man-guns-down-immigrant-after-gps-sends-him-to-wrong-driveway/

Woohoo! Bring more innocent deaths!

Good thing this guy defended his house from lost people!



This was just a crime, not related to the discussion. Even if the murder didn't have a gun, he intended to murder, gun or not. I do agree with better data base to check the record of everyone and reduce crime gun related violence, not that criminals respect the law anyway.
That's true, he would have murdered them anyway, maybe with a knife, the knife would have gone through the car's window like the bullet did.

"not that criminals respect the law anyway."

You are not born a criminal. The guy was a "law abiding citizen" untill he shot a man in the head, that's what some people don't understand. There is no "good" and "bad" guys by default, you become a bad guy depending on your actions, the thing is that you can't always see those actions coming and like the crime linked, some of them take 10 seconds to occur and BAM someone's dead.
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Re: Tragedy and gun violence
« Reply #355 on: 30-01-2013, 15:01:31 »
Could have been some fucking drunk killing someone too, but in that case you wouldn't care because you all enjoy your alcohol too much.

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Re: Tragedy and gun violence
« Reply #356 on: 30-01-2013, 16:01:27 »
The main use of alcohol is not to kill people like guns.
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Re: Tragedy and gun violence
« Reply #357 on: 30-01-2013, 16:01:08 »
So the main use of guns is to kill people? What a joke. You obviously missed the olympics. Please explain to me why you need to have alcohol and why over 15000 deaths from drunk drivers a year in the civilized world is any more justifiable than firearms related ones. The average member of the middle class in the United States has more to fear from an idiot drunk driving asshole than a gun. Sadly, you will not be able to find any better excuse for alcohol as a drink than owning a firearm.
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Re: Tragedy and gun violence
« Reply #358 on: 30-01-2013, 16:01:48 »
Yes, I am stating a fact. Compared to the United States most European countries look very homogenous. Only reason that there appear to be more minorities in Europe than there are is because of racism. Many of you try to portray immigration as an invasion, for example the North Africans in France and the minority groups the former Deutsche Demokratische Republik. They typically commit less acts of violence over it than the United States, but it's far from tolerance.

Well, France and immigrants from North Africa... Marseille is a battlefield currently, in Paris there are some areas where even police can't go without an armoured vehicle. Same is happening in Sweden and Germany also.

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Re: Tragedy and gun violence
« Reply #359 on: 30-01-2013, 16:01:15 »
And why the hell those people immigrating to Europe anyways? First of all, the parents wanted to secure some future, but the children is so spoiled, and bloated ego by their status as minority from rough places (despite not experiencing it a single bit), they do anything as they please and get appeased by liberal media as the "victim."

Sounds like a great gun violence probability there.