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Re: World of Tanks
« Reply #4845 on: 21-09-2014, 18:09:33 »
Meh, never liked autoloaders, i'm sticking to the more accurate and lighter M32 gun

Wich also looks heck-alot sexier
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Re: World of Tanks
« Reply #4846 on: 21-09-2014, 20:09:02 »
So I kinda don't need Tier Xs anymore, as my clan shifted from CW to competitive play, Skirmishes, that league sort of thing and stuff like that, you'd become better by playing in these tournaments with 7v7 than in a 15v15 CW battle. It relieves huge pressure from me, I absolutely hate Tier X gameplay, ridiculous shit such as WTE100, all Artilleries, FV215b 183 ruin all the fun for me, maybe I'll get a few Tier Xs for the lols, like the JpzE100 and T-62A, it remains to be seen.

I have three Xs, Maus is, uhm, kinda fun to bounce shit but at the end of the day the ridiculously bad DPM kills the tank, I can play with the low speed, yes, but give me good DPM for gods sake. AMX 50b is the best I have, yet since I hate Tier Xs I barely used it. 113 is the most succesful, but it's so, stupid. I mean, it doesn't have anything good over a, say, T110E5, the frontal armor is trollish but in close combat it's just worthless, the gun reloads okay, good enough for me, the speed is alright I guess, the turret cheeks can be penned quite easily... in my experience, they were, it's massive tank that takes a lot of damage by throwing a fucking hand grenade at it, and since every fucking 43%er clicker out there didn't kill it yet, well, you pretty much have to live behind a rock or face the consequences, and sometimes not even that thanks to the ridiculous Conqueror GC. I moved it's crew back to the 110 after a BS game in Steppes where the enemy had two terribads M53/55s plattooned, the moment I moved out of cover I had two shells landing at me. I won't even talk about the gun depression that is ridiculous for reasons.


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Re: World of Tanks
« Reply #4847 on: 21-09-2014, 20:09:50 »
I think the game would be a lot better if they finally closed in the tier balance, so you can only get max -1 or +1MM instead of 2. I don't like driving anything lower than tier 9-10 because 60% of the time you end up in tier +2 matches where the top tiers in your team suck and there's nothing you can do about it. Most tier 7 tanks can't do shit against tier 9s, yet they often end up having to fight them. Same goes for pretty much all the tiers.

In War Thunder you only get matched against tanks of your own tier, which makes the game way more fun IMO.

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Re: World of Tanks
« Reply #4848 on: 22-09-2014, 06:09:02 »
Oh god, please no. There's nothing more boring in the game than being in a match where all the tanks are the same tier (or with one tier difference). It just turns into a massive slugfest with no dynamic elements or challenges at all. I'd argue that most tanks do just fine against tanks two tiers higher, with a couple of exceptions. For example, any tier VII with at least a 170mm of pen can go frontally against most tier IXs. For the rest, it's all about flanking and maneuvering.

I do agree that being the bottom tier makes you quite dependent on the top tiers but you just have to live with it. The main problem with the +2 match making is that at higher tiers the gap between tiers is bigger than at lower tiers (it's harder to go against a tier X in a tier VIII than against a tier VIII in a tier VI), which means that all those monkeys who reached the top tiers just by botting will ruin the game for you. The best solution would be to just lessen the penalties you get from losing, so that if someone on the losing team does better than anyone on the winning team, he should obviously get the biggest reward.

To be honest, I was expecting you to be the last to complain about the tier difference, considering that you are one of the better players in WoT.
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Re: World of Tanks
« Reply #4849 on: 22-09-2014, 10:09:53 »
Nothing is more fun then wiping the smudge of a high tier asshole with your lower tiered tank
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Re: World of Tanks
« Reply #4850 on: 22-09-2014, 13:09:10 »
I agree + - 1 would be boring as shit.

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Re: World of Tanks
« Reply #4851 on: 22-09-2014, 20:09:26 »
I would like +-1 MM. Most tanks I play anyway, are limited MM premiums or tier 9 and 10.

The thing I most hate about larger tier spread, is the huge difference in tiers. It's not enough that you propably have every apsect worse than your 2 tiers higher counterpart, but you also have to do with half the hitpoints. I know most of my best games are in higher tier matches due to huge xp bonus against higher tier opponents, but I still don't like it. Specially tier 3 against 5 and 7 against 9 seem to be full of problems.

Also, MM seems to mess up with platoons a lot of times, specially on lower tiers. It's way too often that I find my platoon with tier 6 (or lower) tanks to be ONLY tier 6 tanks in match. Only 7 and 8 in enemy team.

Edit: TOGtober is coming, prepare your anus. http://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/09/22/wg-eu-events-in-october-and-partially-november/
And just to invalidate what I just said, I recently had pretty fun match with TOG in accidental fail platoon in tier 8: http://wotreplays.com/site/1185427#kharkov-ajappat-tog_ii
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Re: World of Tanks
« Reply #4852 on: 22-09-2014, 22:09:27 »
To be honest, I was expecting you to be the last to complain about the tier difference, considering that you are one of the better players in WoT.

I have no problems fighting tier +2 but I dislike losing (despite my very best efforts) and that's what I'm mainly talking about. Even in platoons with two other unicums there's pretty often nothing we can do when we aren't top tiers.

And besides that very few tanks could win a 1v1 fight against something two tiers higher, especially tier 7 (mediums) against tier 9 heavies. A good E-75 player is invulnurable to anything below tier 9 guns. Another example are KV-1S against tier 4 tanks. Besides the armor there's also the problem of hitpoints.

I've given up playing pretty much every tank lower than tier 9 because of the fact that in the end, I would lose so many times because of terribad top tiers that it just wasn't fun for me anymore.
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Re: World of Tanks
« Reply #4853 on: 23-09-2014, 00:09:33 »
I'm worried, KV-85 looks a bit ridiculous, the 122mm despite being shittier is still workable, I would have made a Tier 7 prem named KV-122 and removed the 122mm from the KV-85 at once, or nerf the alpha and gun depression on the 122mm, which was the biggest problem, in combination with the stalin speed of the tank. These three factors made it a pathetic tank that could roll over 400 on a IS-3 because shut up.

But still, the new KV-85 will be very good, and since everyone is looking at it and almost nobody pays attention to the new problem, which has the same name, KV-1S at Tier V with the 122mm derp.

That derp was kinda shit on the KV-1 because the KV-1 can't flank anything, so you had to rely on frontal shots most of the time. But with a KV-1S?, You have some speed, you can flank, HEAT and HE, almost the same alpha.

Why the fuck not, WG?.


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Re: World of Tanks
« Reply #4854 on: 23-09-2014, 11:09:51 »
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I have no problems fighting tier +2 but I dislike losing (despite my very best efforts) and that's what I'm mainly talking about. Even in platoons with two other unicums there's pretty often nothing we can do when we aren't top tiers.

but ofcourse tier VIII can carry a tier X match.
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WOT is so full with idiot shit players you should have no problem killing some guys even if they are 2 tiers higher ..

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Re: World of Tanks
« Reply #4855 on: 23-09-2014, 22:09:37 »
WOT is so full with idiot shit players you should have no problem killing some guys even if they are 2 tiers higher ..

Yeah you take a Tiger I and I'll take my E-75, and let's see how long you'll last in a frontal fight.

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Re: World of Tanks
« Reply #4856 on: 23-09-2014, 23:09:26 »
WOT is so full with idiot shit players you should have no problem killing some guys even if they are 2 tiers higher ..

Yeah you take a Tiger I and I'll take my E-75, and let's see how long you'll last in a frontal fight.
Even better, take a T25/2, and then see how fun it is to fight tier 9.
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Re: World of Tanks
« Reply #4857 on: 24-09-2014, 10:09:57 »
Yeah, Tiger I is fun compared to the T25/2
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Re: World of Tanks
« Reply #4858 on: 24-09-2014, 11:09:28 »


Yeah you take a Tiger I and I'll take my E-75, and let's see how long you'll last in a frontal fight.

I'd rather have a good tiger I player in my team then tomato E-75. besides, a tiger I can penetrate a E-75 frontally anyway, despite being 2 tiers lower. You'd be surprised how few people know how to properly angle a tank anyway : they either don't do it, or they over do it so you can shoot at the sprockets.

The MM of the game is fine as it is IMHO. the only thing that they should change is to remove the stupid scout MM, and give light tanks the same MM as the other tanks on that tier

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Re: World of Tanks
« Reply #4859 on: 24-09-2014, 12:09:49 »
M48 patton cannot penetrate Object 430/t62 frontally

But they can

And its these little things that ruined WOT for me
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