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Announcements => Announcements => Topic started by: Lightning on 21-05-2009, 23:05:02
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Silent Breakout
Hello and welcome back to another update of Forgotten Hope. Today we have a render of the British Horsa glider and a lot of screenshots from the map Operation Goodwood.
Read the rest of this update on our website (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/main.php?lang=english&id_news=286).
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First! Goodwood! That should be sweeeeeet! That is one of my favorite maps in FH1.
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FIRST! j/k nice update
EDIT: damnit
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Lol it's not up yet.
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what can it be :o
Edit: Goodwood yay, nice map and glider
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The Glider is shown as if its a vehicle, does this mean flyable gliders? :D And will they spawn in the air i assume?
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I'll ask the obvious question:
Can we fly it??!!??!!??!!
*awaits dreamcrush*
Op. Goodwood looks sweet, too. Nice job, Knoffhoff!
In other news, yay for the Steam group giving me an up to the minute update!
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Goodwood, goodwood, goodwood, horsa, goodwood!
Love it, love it, love it, love it ;D
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I like that map. :)
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Looks good,
I like to see any map that uses the maximum area possible for it. Is it a Push style map? or is it Conquest?
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can that glider fly? Or is it just a static decoration?
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It sure is a fine map.
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The Horsa glider looks sweet.
But i dont like the screenshots of Goodwood, i hope it doesnt look like that on the final release, Goodwood is one of my favorites on FH1, now it just seems too colorful and without that destruction war felling that was there on FH1, it just doesnt seem like a warzone at all.
Its a constructive criticism from my part. I maybe wrong.
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Shell holes - check
destroyed buildings - check
military tents - check
looks pretty warlike to me.
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I never liked Goodwood in 0.7... It was a horrendous map, imho. FH2's version rocks my socks.
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ye, The allies always got their asses kicked, as on many maps :(
Ha and they somebody said this morning=No update today guys
Oh well, no new units, but a classic map is also good
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OH
MY
GOD
These are just some of the words that came to mind when I saw the map and the screenshots. I think this may actually be the (prononuced 'thee') best map I've seen for any game. And a map like this almost proves the existence of fireflies!
Also, I like the glider. Flyable? Hopefully.
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Ah, just the attention to detail. Look at those buildings. Magnificent.
And that Horsa seems interesting...flyable?...open the hatch with arrow keys?...hmm
Juzt don't forget ze airfieldz! ::)
Very very good job guys.
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Simply hawesome, great map, looks like there will be a lot of interesting fights going on.. next week or in two weeks comes the release date. ;)
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I came.
Seriously, my hype level just went through the roof.
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There are three G43 pickup kits in that one screenshot.
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GLIDER!!!!!!! ;D and operation goodwood :) Well we need maps anyways but I would like to see some more American/Canadian maps though.
So on which map are we going to find that Glider gentleman? :D
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So on which map are we going to find that Glider gentleman? :D
Well, I'd imagine that the obvious answer would be one named after a mythical flying horse.
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:o
I'm totaly :o
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So on which map are we going to find that Glider gentleman? :D
Well, I'd imagine that the obvious answer would be one named after a mythical flying horse.
"Operation Fury"
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Glider and the map both look great! will we be seeing a minimap soon?
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(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/Operation%20Goodwood/minimap.jpg)
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I'm totaly :o too...
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Very nice update, and I would love flyable gliders but doubt that this can be implemented. I have just one nitpick, I think the white flowers and perhaps the green of the poppies are too saturated and stick out too much of the other foliage. Everthing else is absolutly flawless.
*Starting my weekly routine of cleaning my keyboard from drool*
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Greate update!!!
Love the glider and cant wait to play that map
Question on the minimap ther are 3 CP/Gray spots explain pls?? are they like regular flags just gray from the start off the round but both teams can cap them?
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Ok, so my first question is thus: how big is this map compared to maps like Alam Halfa or El Alemein? It looks big, but its hard to judge the size because there is no reference to scale it properly.
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Greate update!!!
Love the glider and cant wait to play that map
Question on the minimap ther are 3 CP/Gray spots explain pls?? are they like regular flags just gray from the start off the round but both teams can cap them?
Ya i think they are flags that start grey and the ones with german flags start out german.
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Awesome update.
The thing I am most thirlled about is actually all the awesome statics in the map ;D
Great job FH2 team.
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Ok, so my first question is thus: how big is this map compared to maps like Alam Halfa or El Alemein? It looks big, but its hard to judge the size because there is no reference to scale it properly.
from a feeling i would say it is about the size of el alamein but could be less it is hard to judge these things.
definitely one of my favorite maps, you get awesome infantry battles in the cagny area and overall tank fights on the open fields , well camouflaged AT gun positions and some little kitty's strolling around marking their territory.
as on all maps where once team attacks and the other defends the attacking tommys need to work together big time to overcome great obstacles on this map.
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sweet update to start my 4-day weekend. did not think the Horsa Glider was up to par already :D
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Good job, keep it up 8)
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Super job guys! Looking very nice!
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Ok, so my first question is thus: how big is this map compared to maps like Alam Halfa or El Alemein? It looks big, but its hard to judge the size because there is no reference to scale it properly.
Judging from the minimap the cagny area seems to be about the size of the sidi rezegh airfield.
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Lovely map, I loved the old Goodwood, and I bet I'll love this one too. As for the Horsa, well....very nice hint ;)
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I'm going to wet myself when this comes out! (metaphorically)
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I'm not sure of the exact size of Goodwood, but it plays alot larger than it actually is, so no need to worry. Long range tank kills will still feel just as good as they do on El Al if not better.
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God and i tought Gliders where impossible in the BF2 engine!
Lets see how this baby runs in FH2!
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Ok, so my first question is thus: how big is this map compared to maps like Alam Halfa or El Alemein? It looks big, but its hard to judge the size because there is no reference to scale it properly.
from a feeling i would say it is about the size of el alamein but could be less it is hard to judge these things.
definitely one of my favorite maps, you get awesome infantry battles in the cagny area and overall tank fights on the open fields , well camouflaged AT gun positions and some little kitty's strolling around marking their territory.
as on all maps where once team attacks and the other defends the attacking tommys need to work together big time to overcome great obstacles on this map.
are there plenty of backcappings? there are too many flags for a map without push!
btw if i suggest a push it would be like that of siege of tobruk.
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GLIDERS!!! I CAN'T F*&KING BELIEVE IT :o
One question: are they flyable ?
And I must say Operation Goodwood looks awesomely stunning, so much detail is put in.
Good work FH guys :)
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I want everyone on this forum to pray that glider is flyable. On Pegasus. Everyone think about that for a minute
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Once in a great while an update comes along and blows my mind. This is one of those times. I have three things to say:
1. HOLY
2. (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/Operation%20Goodwood/Goodwood9.jpg)
3. SHIT
I mean that screenshot alone took my breath away. And this coming from a veteran off every single FH2 update since it's announcement. I guess I never cease to be amazed!
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^ haha made me laugh
Yah this looks AMAZING! I would love to fly a squad in with that glider but i don't think that will happen :(
Awesome update guys!
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"... designed to tie down the Germans to ease the American operations in the west."
I smell some Field Marshall Montgomery bullshit.
Other than that it's a great update.
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*drowling*
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"... designed to tie down the Germans to ease the American operations in the west."
I smell some Field Marshall Montgomery bullshit.
Other than that it's a great update.
Yes and no.
Yes, he lied and changed his story on most of his offensives from being the ones that would take Caen, to being just to hold down the germans.
And yes, he is right that his offensives did hold down the best of the german divisions, which allowed the americans to be basically unopposed by quality german units other then the Fallschirmjager.
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Ok, so my first question is thus: how big is this map compared to maps like Alam Halfa or El Alemein? It looks big, but its hard to judge the size because there is no reference to scale it properly.
It actually looks pretty small from a tankers point of view and the map isn't as big as I'd imagined; I'm just juding from the size of houses but I hope that I'm wrong.
*drowling*
You might want to get that checked out.
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Seriously WOW you guys. This is one of the most jaw-dropping updates Ive seen. Two things stand out in my mind now. The awesome city shot with that beautifully skinned roof (bottom left pic) and those two railroad crossings, which I can already see as interesting chokepoints. God am I looking forward to this release. :)
Also, the glider is awesome, and I hope to see a map to go with its silent glidering. Maybe a map named after an animal that does a fair amount of gliding itself?
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Looking very good!
Hoping the Germans on Goodwood are historically accurate ;).
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Just absolutely beautiful map!!!! I'm speechless...no I'm not, I just said it.
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Looking very good!
Hoping the Germans on Goodwood are historically accurate ;).
IE, there better be the famed 88 FLAK front that knocked out almost 80 british tanks that von Luck wrote about in his memoirs. He actually had to force the Flak officer at gun point to stay and fight, and when he came back to check on them, upwards of 80 british tanks were burning in the fields, for nil losses on the part of the 88 gunners.
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can't wait to bring a panzerfaust and hunt tanks. :D
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That sounds very interesting Von Mudra. But where would those 88's be positioned?...
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:o. That map looks awesome i was already thinking are we going to see any flat terrain with long view distance maps. And there is so many many assets as well that look so good, Normandy is definitely going to differ from Africa.
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That sounds very interesting Von Mudra. But where would those 88's be positioned?...
Far as I know, they were basically sited over a long flowing field that one of the british tank brigades was attempting to cross. And, well, the tank brigade didn't make it across. Von Luck didn't go into specifics on it, sadly.
To quote the wiki article
"Spotting a Luftwaffe Flak battery of 88mm guns, Luck ordered the commander to open fire on the flank of the British tanks. The battery commander, a young captain, refused to do so, as he was under orders to engage enemy aircraft. At this refusal Luck drew his service pistol, leveled it at the man and said "Either you're a dead man or you can earn yourself a medal."[18] The battery thus engaging the enemy.... The Luftwaffe 88mm battery Luck commandeered earlier in the day accounted for about 40 British tanks alone."
That's conflicting with the book, where von Luck said it was around 80 when he inspected the slaughter himself, but that number from wiki might only be counting those that were completely destroyed, and not those that were hit and abandoned, but were salvageable. Or, considering its wiki, it might just be dead wrong :P
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God now i look at that one SS their.....jesus look at the details
i cant wait to sit in those buildings, With a PIAT or a Panzerfaust(Shreck?:v), waiting for those foolish German tanks to enter XD
Browsing a bit bout Operation goodwood, it appears a few King tiger tanks and Churchill tanks participated in the battle.WIll they be included for this map?
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Well, you realize, that'll be british tanks entering...germans are defending Cagny :P
And yeah, they did, but if they'll be there or not is up to if the devs make them in time. I think I heard somewhere though that the KT might not make it into 2.2
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Well, imo, the KT is not really an IMPORTANT unit.as you said, it can always be added later(So did the Tiger tank for Mareth line, Only appeared in now 2.15)
But i believe the Churchill is a bit of an important tank, i hope it gets added with the later Patches of 2.2 soon :(
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The Churchill was my favorite tank to use when playing Brits on Goodwood .7
It could take a beating from most German tanks and AT guns, and was often ignored by people trying to get the Shermans.
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Wow, just wow....I´m totally speechless. Goodwood looks simply stunning and beautiful! From the minimap it looks like everyone will have fun. The treadheads have enough open space to maneuvre and the infantry guys have a big enough city to experience fierce and bloody street fighting! Also infantry has enough concealment outside the town to attack tanks from hedgerows etc.
The map really invites you to lean back, enjoy a drink and the sun :D
But yeah, there´s a war going on ^^
Ach ja, pick up G43 rifles? So these rifles aren´t spawnable, eh?
The orse glider looks great, too. And I guess we know what that means (Pegasus) ;)
Nice update and I can´t wait to see the next one (although I will be in Hungary from Monday to Sunday)!
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:-X
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The Churchill was my favorite tank to use when playing Brits on Goodwood .7
It could take a beating from most German tanks and AT guns, and was often ignored by people trying to get the Shermans.
Ye, and it wassent so tall as the sherman, i used to hide near a bunch of trees, somewhere around the eastren map.German tanks ALWAYS went trough that road to get to the Northeren towns..
Then again, it was difficult getting their before the panthers came ;)
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Ach ja, pick up G43 rifles? So these rifles aren´t spawnable, eh?
I'd say they aren't spawnable because the Germans are defending against an army armed with bolt action rifles in this scenario.
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That makes sense, yes. Not that I´ll care much about infantry fights because I´ll sit in a tank once a server plays this map :D
Oh, and Reporter, what did you just wanted to say? ^^
Oh, and what I just asked myself: What other weapons will the Panzerfaust/Schreck/Zooka/PIAT kits get?
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I'm still interested in if the 88mm front will be represented. That action was critical to the battle=/
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I'm still interested in if the 88mm front will be represented. That action was critical to the battle=/
Come on, what do you think of the devs???
Have they ever let you down?
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That map .... it is not humanly possible to make it look so good on the BF2 engine. Supernatural I say.
I take my hat off the to the devs.
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I'm still interested in if the 88mm front will be represented. That action was critical to the battle=/
Come on, what do you think of the devs???
Have they ever let you down?
No Panzer Lehr insignia on any tanks yet ;)
But yeah, that better be a hint in my direction, cuz that's how Imma take it :D
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Awesome Map! :o
I've never seen such a perfect map in a BF2 mod.
Very great!
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I must admit the screenshots look beautiful, and its such a refreshing change from the desert.
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I want everyone on this forum to pray that glider is flyable. On Pegasus. Everyone think about that for a minute
No, because the whole concept of Pegasus - the entire existence of the scenario - relies on the fact that the british managed to land a glider just a few meters from the actual bridge... this was a 1/1000 chance, and to reproduce it in a map isn't possible, needed or necessary.. We need to be sure the allies spawn where they are supposed to, and wont fly the glider where they feel like it.. the whole concept would be destroyed... If we make a pegasus map (isn't decided yet) they will spawn in a static landed glider, mark my words.
Some other scenario can have flying gliders though, for sure! :)
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Here are some answers to your questions.
The map will have sort of a semi push. It will prevent backcapping but still give you the opportunity to develop many different tactics for your attack.
The three flags marked CP are neutral controlppoints at the start of the round.
The size of the map actually is only one quater of El Alamein. But most the terrain is used and the map therefor feels quite big. Distances between cp's are also walkable on foot, just like on the old map.
The Luftwaffe 88's will be in the churchyard if germans manage to set up their def3nces in Cagny in time.
The G43 is only available as pickup kit because it wasn't used in big numbers.
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So the German flags won't be capable until Brits own the 3 CP's, right? :)
@Mudra: I was more talking about the units that took part. :P
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All questions I wanted to ask have already been answered so I just say this: Awesome update! :D
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(http://files.pierrenel.co.uk/full_of_win.jpg)
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this was my favourtie fh 1 map good layout i mean it showed the power and range of the axis tanks i always seemed to get hit before i even saw the enemy, i always used the cromwell or churchill lower profile, never ever the sherman as they were always hit first, cromwells were the secret weapon as they were low and could hide and had the same gun as the sherman 75mm , the velosity was slightly better or equal and was the fastest UK tank of the war with a top speed ungoverned of 40 mph, outflank to win.
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Awesome update, I can imagine Goodwood will be an epic fight!
Some other scenario can have flying gliders though, for sure! :)
Merville Battery perhaps.... ::)
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Nice update for my birthday. :) Goodwood is good, gives ya... nevermind. ;)
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Nice update for my birthday. :) Goodwood is good, gives ya... nevermind. ;)
Happy Birthday then!!!
(http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/2814932/2/istockphoto_2814932-birthday-donut.jpg)
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So on which map are we going to find that Glider gentleman? :D
Well, I'd imagine that the obvious answer would be one named after a mythical flying horse.
They used other kind of gliders for the Pegasus bridge operation right?
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Nope, same one.
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Great update, the quality of this work always amaze me :D
Question to everyone : minus Pegasus bridge, where were gliders landings planned on D-Day (and so, where can we expect to see a flyable Horsa) ?
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MMMMM 'Operation Goodwood'
Great work! Detail is just amazing
Thanks!
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The Luftwaffe 88's will be in the churchyard if germans manage to set up their def3nces in Cagny in time.
WOOT :D
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Me and my Kübel will take care of quick capping that base.
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Yay Goodwood!
Can't wait to fly some gliders too!
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It will great to use this baby on the map. ;D
(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/140408panther_02.jpg)
(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/140408panther_01.jpg)
(Special thanks to bosco ;))
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Nice update for my birthday. :) Goodwood is good, gives ya... nevermind. ;)
Happy Birthday you kinky Dutchman, so in the end, Happy Bday Dutchman. ;) :P :-*
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Happy Birfday Dutchy :)!
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What will the Tank-layout be for Operation goodwood?
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I belive the gliders wont be fly able... but glideable...
Great devs!!!1
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Op. Goodwood looks brilliant I have to say ;D
And the Horsa Glider?...
BEAUTIFUL :o I would love a map utalising gliders, i remember there was a map in FH0.7 which had the waco glider, lets hope we get to see something similar with the Horsa 8)
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So the German flags won't be capable until Brits own the 3 CP's, right? :)
@Mudra: I was more talking about the units that took part. :P
my guess is
Le Prieure, or Fremental is a prerequisite to Cagny, this way would prevent early jeep rushs(which some players just spawned...) taking those flags.. but i am not sure if this "OR" push is possible.
for the rear flags i guess need to take Fremental to access grentheville, and both of the Cagny flags to access to Le Poirer, or may need them both.
another guess might be Fremental is not associated with any push systems, that way the fight would be centred around Cagny though. (it's like Sidi rezegh, who cares about "the blockhouse" flag?)
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The blockhouse flag is teh pwn, your team loses 50 points when the enemy caps it.
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The blockhouse flag is teh pwn, your team loses 50 points when the enemy caps it.
are there any reason to recap it other than losing the map faster.
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concerning the "overlord" map on the test server... That could be a test map for landing craft (perhaps even the glider)
(http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/6015/screen046op5.jpg)
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where is that picture from? why are you leaking content so open ts4ever?
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See i an American playermodel in that glider? :o
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no this is cretemap for testing only. its a german
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where is that picture from? why are you leaking content so open ts4ever?
I'm no beta tester and I signed no NDA... so I'm not leaking anything.
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no this is cretemap for testing only. its a german
Ok, thanks for the information.
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concerning the "overlord" map on the test server... That could be a test map for landing craft (perhaps even the glider)
(http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/6015/screen046op5.jpg)
It flies!!!!!!!
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It flies!!!!!!!
Well it glides anyway......
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Nice ts, now the black helicopters will pay someone a visit.
How do you feel to have sentenced someone to death (or castration, if lobo has his funny day)?
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Please don't leak stuff guys, it spoiled the fun of the guessing game...
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Please don't leak stuff guys, it spoiled the fun of the guessing game...
Shush you! I like my weekly news updates!
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where is that picture from? why are you leaking content so open ts4ever?
Gunnie posted this picture on totalbf2.
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where is that picture from? why are you leaking content so open ts4ever?
Gunnie posted this picture on totalbf2.
And no one likes a rat.
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/me pulls on the Iron glows and knock on Gunnies roomdoor ;D
Ok, TS4ever thats true, but i wanted to ask you and other if anybody else leak something not to share it or make it puplic. keep it for you and be happy.
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where is that picture from? why are you leaking content so open ts4ever?
Haha, the devs leaked it! Atleast I got it from Gunnie.
EDIT: Aaw :( Someone ruined the fun.
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Don't post stuff like that, not fair to the developers. Show some respect, the least you can do.
It looks like it's flying though...
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Gunnie is a developer Tiny..
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QUIET! Toddel said no, you do no, erm I mean so you do what he says! NO!
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Seriously, if someone from the dev team posts it in a public forum, why shouldn't I post it here? tbh I didn't even know it was a leak. But after Toddel started to go all black helicopter I prefered not to tell where I got it from.
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No big deal. Come on. Its a friggin' Horsa. Couldnt give two damns if that thing glides or not. :P
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Seriously, if someone from the dev team posts it in a public forum, why shouldn't I post it here? tbh I didn't even know it was a leak. But after Toddel started to go all black helicopter I prefered not to tell where I got it from.
Your reply was quite cheeky. Could have led to some misinterpretations.
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Also, what would FH be without us watching their test server and jumping after every leak there is?
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Absolutely funless.
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We had already saw this in a news, so i don't think it's too bad for the devs. A leak about the mysterious map "overlord" would be a punch in the balls for the devs i think.
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A leak about the mysterious map "overlord" would be a punch in the balls for the devs i think.
I'm on it....
btw, anybody remember this?
(http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/6813/leak2.jpg)
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LOL it would be a punch in the balls for you guys. ;D
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A leak about the mysterious map "overlord" would be a punch in the balls for the devs i think.
I'm on it....
btw, anybody remember this?
(http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/6813/leak2.jpg)
Awesome, can't wait to play this map. :o
But why is there are helicopter on the airport? Secret weapons? kekeke
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But why is there are helicopter on the airport?
Because I was too lazy to airbrush them out.
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Ok, that sounds logic.
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But why is there are helicopter on the airport?
Because I was too lazy to airbrush them out.
LMAO! ,
Oh hail the Glider flies! (or glides, whatever its up in the air!) ;D ;D ;D
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But why is there are helicopter on the airport? Secret weapons? kekeke
There's only one explanation...
(http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/files/2009/03/final_countdown.jpg)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080736/
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Hah! Loved the cheesiness! It made no sense, and was still so awesome.
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Qeustion where is the geussing game this week? In the old news update (this one) or in the geussing game thread? Cause alst time I saw postings on both about what the new patch was about to bring ???
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Here it is. :)
http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?topic=683.0 (http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?topic=683.0)