REPROVED on the teory for driving lessons (yeah! take another mentaly tard post)

[Thorondor123]

I wat my post back! Or i want thorondor reading it atleast!

Read the PM I sent you.




I am NOT amused by the fact that I can permanently ban a racist and people cheer for me, but when I ban a nationalist homophobe bigot for three days all sorts of people crawl out of the woodwork to ridicule me and support the bigot.

There are many a forums where racism and homophobia is clearly banned, and where the use of racial and homophobic slurs is strictly frowned upon. This forums has been mostly clear of such shit, but from time to time some actions have had to been taken. Very rarely it has come to banning someone. Usually a few words of warning is enough.

Another thing that is common amongst other forums is that the actions of moderators are not to be discussed publicly. And most definitely one should no repost material that a moderator has deleted. This should be common sense. Disagreements should be handled first, with a PM to the moderator in question, and if that does not satisfy you, one should take the matter to other moderators and administrators.

Thank you.

[Admiral Donutz]

Be able to use the emergency parking brake, point out gas pedal, brake pedal, how to turn lights on, where the emergency hazard lights button is, how to turn on the lights for night driving etc.

Emergency parking break as in what normal people call the handbreak? Or are you talking about automatic gears (drive, park, neutral, reverse I guess? Never drove an automatic myself).

Damaso, Here is another tip

Read the question 2 times very very well. Now dont look at the answers before you have read the question

Then read the 3 answers (do not make a judgement). I did this, and the first answer i came up with, was often the correct answer of the question. This is how i scored 48/50 on the third try of my theory lesson (you need 44/50 to pass. Now 2 years later it is 46/50)

That migth work with paper exams but in NL the tests are on a computer. There is a large screen infront of the class and at every table/seat there is a small keypad device to enter the correct answer (A-B-C-D or delete) and you don't have a lot of time to answer the question. Read the question carefully,  but even more important, look at the images with much detail too, sometimes the question itself is easy ("who has right of way?" but the image itself may have a rather complex or tricky situation.

I passede my theory exam with ease, I failed my practical exam the first time around though, not too suprising as I was a bit nervous and some and you (I) hadn't yet learned to do all the various manouvres without giving it a second though, thus it all being executed in a bit of a "forced" or "hesitating"  way rather then smooth and direct. After a enough hours on the road most of the things will become second nature, or you simply throw some of the knowledge straight out the window... (how many -Dutch- people open their indicator on the highway 600 meters before the exit?).

I'm not sure what all the skills are that you need to show during the practical exam. I believe you need to show atleast two-three of the following: parking in a row (all cars head to tail) , parking crosswise (all cars side by side), reversing, turning in a street, stopping and driving away from a sloped surface, merging into and out of traffic/highway etc. Obviously you need to pay a lot of detail to all the mirrors too: making sure you are aware of all traffic around you before/while performing a manouvre etc. etc.

[Butcher]

I found the drivers test in Germany quite ridiculous. It goes like this:

What nasty things can happen in this picture?

[   ] nothing
[   ] a bit
[   ] definitely something
[ x ] holy shit, it´s fucking dangerous


What do you have to do in the picture you see?

[   ] nothing
[   ] be careful
[   ] be very careful
[ x ] respect other drivers, be careful, holy shit - this is dangerous

etc. etc.

The few hard questions were the ones where you had to tell what weight your car is allowed to have with the license and other numbers and to be honest I only knew those when taking the test and for like one week after the test.

[|7th|Nighthawk]

^ lol, exactly I remember exactly this. The only bad thing was that the day I went there they had new questions (the exact day) and I had one mistake. Pretty sure it was about the question: "You are in a tunnel and you see a crashed car: a)You stay in your car and don't give a fuck, b) I get out and try to help, c) and d) I don't remember but I chose b and I am pretty sure it was wrong ^^ So I know exactly what to do next time: Let them rot

[Zoologic]

Driving test should be a little bit smarter, but they messed it all up.

But still, people can get license in less than 5 hours, right from the start (that is filling an application).

No wonder drivers are horrible here.

[:| Hi]

@Donutz, yeah the handbrake I suppose. I've always called it an e-brake

[Admiral Donutz]

^ lol, exactly I remember exactly this. The only bad thing was that the day I went there they had new questions (the exact day) and I had one mistake. Pretty sure it was about the question: "You are in a tunnel and you see a crashed car: a)You stay in your car and don't give a fuck, b) I get out and try to help, c) and d) I don't remember but I chose b and I am pretty sure it was wrong ^^ So I know exactly what to do next time: Let them rot

What kind of silly question is that? :p It all depends on the situation doesn't it? If there is fire/smoke then "GET THE HELL OUT OF THE DAMN TUNNEL!" (and even then, depending on the situation you might be able to drive away or if in a traffic jam, walk away and towards the nearest emergency exit or against the wind direction), you may have time to call the emergency services (112), it may seem wise to offer help or if the situation seems under control you may just continue on as if nothing happend at all.

The Dutch exam is all about who has right of way (I did the exam before all traffic from the right on even-junctions had right of way, certain types of traffic would have right of way and others wouldn't have right of way comming from the same direction), how much profile you need on your tires, at which distance you need to activate the rear foglight, were you can or can not stand still, park, load/unload, which bicycle lanes you my cross or not cross. 

But I think some organisations complained that there were  too many knowledge and not enough "insight" questions as what would be smart (the "OMG dangerous get the fuck away  OR don't do that shit you moron, that dangerous or counterproductive!!" questions or what I would call "damn, how about using common sense?").

My exam was mostly with questions like this (who has right of way? and other such "is this allowed or not" type of questions):


Seems like they threw in a bunch of "social questions" if these are real exam questions as one might expect in todays exams:

(You need to take into account other road users, how do you do that? A) I let everybody else go first B) I drive defensively and socially  C) I drive socially and slow.

Seems like the person who made these questions has a sense of humour though:

(( What do you do when you see the "caution, wild animals may cross" sign? A) Slow down and open  maximum  strenght headlights B) Honk, break and open headlights at maximum intensity C) Immidiatly hit the breaks and do not drive any further. ))

LOLLlllllllll. Though all answers are a bit silly,   who says you need to slow down, kinda depends on the situation not? And  yes you could open your lights but at maximum intensity you may very well blind oncomming traffic or cause any deer that may stand/cross the road to freeze...   during the say, sure you could open (maximum?) lights,  but when it is dark? doesn't seem very wise....  Regardless, A is the least silly answer but it isn't a perfect answer either. I'd go for option D "I may slow down and I may open my headlights depending on if it seems save to do so, most importantly I will take extra caution while driving along this road".

Which might be tricky, especially when you have only moments to chose an answer, are the difference between "you may" and "you must".

[Musti]

It was similar way in Poland (the theory test questions were changed few months ago, so I don't know how it is now). Mostly question about who has the right of way, is it okay to overtake etc. although there were a bunch of questions that you could not answer correctly, the picture/question was misleading and you couldn't "figure it out" you just had to remember the answer . Apparently now there's much more pointless questions like "what is the blinking frequency of turning signals?" to make more money out of failing people I assume.

[Slayer]

The Dutch exam is all about who has right of way (I did the exam before all traffic from the right on even-junctions had right of way, certain types of traffic would have right of way and others wouldn't have right of way comming from the same direction), how much profile you need on your tires, at which distance you need to activate the rear foglight, were you can or can not stand still, park, load/unload, which bicycle lanes you my cross or not cross. 

(...)

Which might be tricky, especially when you have only moments to chose an answer, are the difference between "you may" and "you must".

Yes, same here. I failed the first time because I was thinking too much about questions. There was this question with this sign on the picture, next to an open bridge:

(Bridge open, shut down engine)

The question was: "Do you have to shut down your engine?" And I answered no, because I had learned that signs which oblige you to do something are blue and this one wasn't. WRONG!! Too much thinking, the answer is yes.

Of course there were some other questions like that, but also very stupid ones, for example a picture of some very snowy boots (all covered in snow on the bottom), and then the question: "Is it OK to start driving when your shoes are like this?" Well, eeehm, let's see, a lot of snow, and...

[Surfbird]

And I answered no, because I had learned that signs which oblige you to do something are blue and this one wasn't.

Meanwhile a STOP sign appears - not blue, must be fake! That's the kind of fucked up shit my brain usually comes up with in any kind of exams too.. Passed the theory test for my driving license with 0 mistakes though

[Slayer]

Meanwhile a STOP sign appears - not blue, must be fake!

Hehe, but the STOP sign is red, which means danger. While this one is white, and in my case it was even green, of which we all know it is the colour of relaxation. 

At least I did my firefighting exam with zero mistakes...

[Zoologic]

There is normal parking brake, where you have to lift the lever with your hand. This can assist you in power sliding/drifting. And then, there is e-brake or electronic parking brake, this thing is like those you found in pompous Mercedes-Benz cars since 1990s. Instead of a lever, you get a button or a big switch that activates the parking brake indirectly.

That test questions are legitimate though. People in Indonesia, or Jakarta at least, never received proper education on how to drive. For example, they all have no idea of "right of way." In Australia, they use common approach of "whoever comes from your driving side should pass first." So, if you see someone coming from your right side (the steering wheel in Australia is on the right side), you should let them pass.

They don't even know the meaning of road signs anymore. Back in 1990s, we used to study this on classroom, but not anymore. All brats right now only talk big about horsepowers and bodykit shit that they learn from fast and furious, when in fact they can't drive properly at all, some even don't know where is the drivetrain.

[Korsakov829]

Quite off topic now, can we get back to the 16 year old Portuguese kid with suicidal tendencies and off the charts depression? Or is no one interested in that?

[Tedacious]

Quite off topic now, can we get back to the 16 year old Portuguese kid with suicidal tendencies and off the charts depression? Or is no one interested in that?

I know I've tried to help him many many times. Giving him real and good advice, but it's useless. Every little advice he tries to twist into it being something negative, or just refuse to listen.
Therapy is a reoccuring topic, but he just doesn't reply to those actually helpful posts.

[Dukat]

Quite off topic now, can we get back to the 16 year old Portuguese kid with suicidal tendencies and off the charts depression? Or is no one interested in that?

Everything has been said more than once. But he does not understand the message. And he does not see the bigger picture. He is looking at every single tree each, and the more trees he is looking at, the more he is confused and stressed because he can't find the forrest.

We tried everything we could, it is all there in the recent threads, but without longlasting professional help I see no light.

He needs friends that accept him the way he is. They need to be as crazy as he is, but of an opposite disorder. Two opposite disorders can complete each other, they keep each other in check if both personalities are able to influence each other on an equal basis. Best place to find this is some mental institution.

He is 16 years now and the age is crucial, his future will decide in the upcoming years. Basically everything is possible. He might find a way into society. He might find friends, a girl, a job, but he also might end up with drugs and unemployment while living at the railway station. Maybe a mixture of both.