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« Reply #690 on: 08-06-2015, 07:06:18 »
Yeah there are saddles for dragons.

I hope in the next 30 or so years we get a version of this piece of crap without the character assassination bullshit. They took it too damn far, especially after what we know from the TWOW excerpts. Goddamnit, they didn't put in the clansmen, the manderlys, the karstarks, and the goddamn freys, and Stannis not burning anyone, they might as well just kill off this piece of shit altogether. But no let's have Sansa in winterfell for no fucking reason, while she and littlefinger already (effectively) have an unscathed army already in vale! Let's forget about vengeance against the idiot freys altogether!

Stupid retarded writers this season's been shit except hardhome.

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« Reply #691 on: 08-06-2015, 16:06:18 »
IIRC GRRM confirmed that the thing with Shireen will happen in the books as well (maybe in slightly different circumstances).

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« Reply #692 on: 08-06-2015, 16:06:04 »
 Yeah shark i agree, it was in pour taste with the writers, but apparently George R. R. Martin told them to put it in as it will be in the the next book.

 But don't forget Stannis murdered his own brother to take back his own army that Renly stole so......


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« Reply #693 on: 08-06-2015, 20:06:34 »
Book fanboys going overboard again. I enjoyed this episode

Probaly will enjoy the parts of the books way better tough
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« Reply #694 on: 08-06-2015, 22:06:40 »
I draw a parallel between the shadow baby and a drone strike. If it's possible and considered humane in modern world then surely it is defendable in a medieval fantasy.

However, I agree shireen will probably die. But the battle of ice in the books is between a BAMF and a bunch of assholes, with the best premise yet. But now I cringe so hard everytime I look at the battle of winterfell, and especially what it could've been with all the other players and interactions. Right now we have two well established assholes, one of which has become so comical that they are incapable to make any mistakes and the other one is downright insane!
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« Reply #695 on: 09-06-2015, 10:06:48 »
You're just unhappy with how your favourite character turned out. And he DID burn people in the books. On Dragonstone and at the Wall! ;)

I'm a book 'fanboy', but have also been able to enjoy the show because I see them as two versions of the same story. Not competing, but showing a different spin on how things could have gone down.

IMHO Stannis is spot on in character. He believes in his crusade and that the end justifies the means. And he is stone cold at heart... the burning heart on his banner is pure sarcasm. ^^
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« Reply #696 on: 09-06-2015, 10:06:23 »
So he was trying to save the kingdom first and then rule it in the books, and he's on a mad rampage in the show against enemies that cannot make a mistake and have no worries behind a wall.

To be fair, they just tied together some events that were supposed to happen. In a terrible, absolutely horrible way, much like what happened in dorne, they turned some characters into absolute protagonists and the rest into different shades of villains, there are no redeeming qualities for the show stannis and you just can't say "I can live with that" for some of his mistakes like in the books when things like in the show happens. They spinned his punishment against traitors into simple sacrifice for example, and they've been spinning many events that happened to him in the books in a negative light rather than just neutrally present to the show watcher.

Meh.

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« Reply #697 on: 09-06-2015, 11:06:51 »
"I can live with that."  ;D

But come on, he would have already sacrificed Edric Storm on Dragonstone weren't it for Davos, who more or less is Stannis' conscience.
The show does a great job on its own to bring the story into a watchable line. The Dorne Storyline was just too far away and how they wrapped it up is imho just fine.
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« Reply #698 on: 09-06-2015, 13:06:23 »
Well, the answer, who wouldn't? It's more or less a magic homing missile. But goddamn the child is too damn far. And this will change how the whole world views this guy compared to shireen being lynched or killed without his consent. Butterfly effect.

About dorne, the choice of characters was a mistake, so the delivery was problematic.

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« Reply #699 on: 09-06-2015, 15:06:58 »
Magic homing missile?.. ah you are referring to a shadow assassin. Iirc Melisandre just needs to have sex for that.
Shireens sacrifice will offer a bit more to the starving army than a single shadow baby.
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« Reply #700 on: 10-06-2015, 07:06:34 »
there are no redeeming qualities for the show stannis and you just can't say "I can live with that"

There is one. He is the only ruler in Westeros that actually cares about the events in the north (which he showed by saving the Night's Watch) and the only one who seems to care about the Seven Kingdoms at all.

And he's willing to do anything to become king and save everyone since he strongly believes that is his destiny. 

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« Reply #701 on: 10-06-2015, 16:06:43 »
The movie has a lot of minor differences that it start to make the characters completely different.

They need to kill Jeyne and show 21st century hormone-filled teen love experienced by medieval coming-of-age "King of The North" Rob Stark. I saw the TV episode first and then the book, then I felt that the TV Rob and "book" Rob is seriously different. Somehow the screen writers thought that it is logical and more realistic to make the young adult king fell in teen love. They seriously need historical lesson. Even in China, the sons of Emperors, famous Generals, Heroes, rode to their first battle around 15-17. Just like in ancient Europe, they ruled over thousands of unruly men. It was entirely different time, and I know it must be very difficult to think of their peerage from 21st century. When I was 15 years old, I couldn't even properly employ somebody, let alone organising a marching army.

From that moment on, I start to see the TV series in different light. It is the GoT with different interpretation. Yeah, definitely, they are made by modern people with slightly less regard to time setting accuracy.

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« Reply #702 on: 12-06-2015, 08:06:51 »
Actually there have been quite a few lovestruck and hormonally insane rulers in medieval Europe who came to power by chance in an early age and then went bonkers.
Riding to war at an early age is also nothing special, even ordering guys around when you have a 'good' family name. If that makes you more adult or less prone to teen afflictions I can't say. ;)

Anyhow, I wouldn't say that they are disregarding the time setting... When it comes down to it, GoT is fantasyso I'd rather look for something like that in the Tudors or Borgia for a good time setting.
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« Reply #703 on: 13-06-2015, 12:06:12 »
Yes, there are some young rulers spoilt by the wealth and power of their family.

But they need to show that in a different time, people behaves differently. It used to be okay to accept living in poverty, but now, people began flinging off their wealth and comfort through Instagram, so everybody wants to get rich. Religion used to be the guiding principle in everything, even in morale. Religion used to represent the more civilized and advanced thoughts in civilization. Then, butlers, like Bruce Wayne's Alfred are proud about their job despite their meager income, and treated like family. They can have a say in family matters despite not being your relative. Kinda like how Jon Snow or Theon can become "brothers" or how Ser Rodrik can sometimes be "above" Stark boys. Now, during the segregation era, black people are treated worse, but many of the successful ones are 100% gentlemen of class that is rare in 21st century, and still they are discriminated against due to their skin colour. As a minority, I also faced with the slightly similar situation, like "my culture" being suppressed (not allowed to celebrate Lunar New Year, learning Mandarin publicly is banned, etc). But honestly, I felt nothing during my childhood. That is probably why many of the bastards in GoT universe can just accept what they are, as long as they life comfortably.

That was the bygone era, such prevalence can't just exist in today's militant minds. It is as if people wanted to rewrite the history to suit their needs. However, this is just a minor scuff, GoT settings in overall is still beautiful and well done.

On the other hand, strange things from the history like Mozart's fecal fetish, Einstein's playboy behaviour, or how composer during the classical era were "poor but with class" (akin to 70s prog rock lyrics). We never seen these characters in a movie with historical setting, except in some European movies. Why? Too strange to be non-fiction?

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« Reply #704 on: 15-06-2015, 20:06:53 »
Sorry you all GoT lovers but the finale was rather dull, just like the season overall. It had only a few really interesting moments but I'd rank this season very low in my books. Doesnt mean this season was bad, it's still really great quality but I think this was perhaps the weakest season. Finale especially felt kinda underwhelming.