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25 years and everyone seems to have missed it...
« on: 27-04-2011, 08:04:33 »
Morning lads and lasses,
somehow I missed an important thread yesterday: A sad but important anniversary.
25 years have past since the Chernobyl got it's tragic world fame.
I want to give my thoughts out to the hundred thousands of men and women who sacrificed their health and their families to protect the rest of the world from the worst that could have happened and to the thousands who lost their homes and livelihoods around the power-plant.

A summary of the accident


Health Effects of Chernobyl - 25 years after the reactor catastrophe a study by IPPNW
« Last Edit: 27-04-2011, 09:04:18 by DLFReporter »
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Re: 25 years and everyone seems to have missed it...
« Reply #1 on: 27-04-2011, 09:04:03 »
Ironic that a simular situation is happening right now

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Re: 25 years and everyone seems to have missed it...
« Reply #2 on: 27-04-2011, 11:04:32 »
"we" in the STALKER thread didn't miss it:
http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?topic=12199.150  ;-)

It was weird to be 10 years old and hearing about this stuff. It was the cold war so you knew about nuclear bombs and such, but I remember this Chernobyl disaster being really kind of abstract for a kid. In retrospect I learned so much more about it through the Fukushima thing and even through playing STALKER. It was a sad day for mankind, and I truly think we as a people got lucky last month in Japan.
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Re: 25 years and everyone seems to have missed it...
« Reply #3 on: 27-04-2011, 11:04:53 »
Lucky ? I don't think you learned as much as you think about the Nuclear Industry. We've had extra doses of radiation for breakfast but you won't be told about that. Oh, and I'm just a "conspiracy theorist" ... so move along, nothing to see here. Next post.

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Re: 25 years and everyone seems to have missed it...
« Reply #4 on: 27-04-2011, 13:04:44 »
It was a sad day for mankind, and I truly think we as a people got lucky last month in Japan.
You can't really compare Fukushima and Chernobyl that easily. Yes, Chernobyl was horrible and Fukushima isn't anywhere near as disastrous, but Fukushima never had the potential to be. The design of the reactor at Chernobyl was terrible and its explosion was caused by an insane experiment without proper measuring equipment. Something like that could never happen today. Looking at Fukushima, everything that could go wrong did go wrong and in that respect we're certainly not lucky!

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Re: 25 years and everyone seems to have missed it...
« Reply #5 on: 27-04-2011, 14:04:07 »
I wasn't comparing, I was early morning eulogising. I meant that we got lucky that, altough a lot went wrong, it didn't get any worse than it got. What with the reactor's ability to resist mother nature being exagerated by Tepco, the multiple aftershocks, the refusal of the Japanese government to widen the evacuation-radius, the meltdown risk after the explosions and all. It would have been embarassing for us humans if, after 25 years, we would have a disaster of the same magnitude.

And I wasn't saying I learned stuff about the nuclear industry, just that when I was a kid it was this vague danger you hadn't heard about before and now I know a little bit more about what actually happened then. Don't worry Barney, my glass is still half-empty.  ;)
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Re: 25 years and everyone seems to have missed it...
« Reply #6 on: 27-04-2011, 15:04:03 »
"we" in the STALKER thread didn't miss it:
http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?topic=12199.150  ;-)

It was weird to be 10 years old and hearing about this stuff. It was the cold war so you knew about nuclear bombs and such, but I remember this Chernobyl disaster being really kind of abstract for a kid. In retrospect I learned so much more about it through the Fukushima thing and even through playing STALKER. It was a sad day for mankind, and I truly think we as a people got lucky last month in Japan.
I was the first person to bring it up  :P

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Re: 25 years and everyone seems to have missed it...
« Reply #7 on: 27-04-2011, 16:04:42 »
Well, last year I made a thread about this topic to keep people thinking about the dangers of nuclear energy production.
http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?topic=6235.0

But for some reason I did not feel the need for it this year..  :'(
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Re: 25 years and everyone seems to have missed it...
« Reply #8 on: 27-04-2011, 16:04:11 »
The design of the reactor at Chernobyl was terrible and its explosion was caused by an insane experiment without proper measuring equipment. Something like that could never happen today. Looking at Fukushima, everything that could go wrong did go wrong and in that respect we're certainly not lucky!

Yeah, Fukushima is a disaster, a kind of force majeure beyond any predictions.

However, wasn't Chernobyl case is a test gone wrong? Well anyone enlighten me whether this test was a routine, normal or insane ones?

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On that occasion, it was decided to carry out a test of the capability of the plant equipment to provide enough electrical power to operate the reactor core cooling system and emergency equipment during the transition period between a loss of main station electrical power supply and the start up of the emergency power supply provided by diesel engines.

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Re: 25 years and everyone seems to have missed it...
« Reply #9 on: 27-04-2011, 18:04:36 »
For all who can understand german, some composition I made a while ago, dealing the chernobyl incident.

http://forum1.onlinewelten.com/showthread.php?p=4753642

I usually imagine my own sounds with it, like `tjunk, tupdieyupdiedee` aaa enemy spotted, ratatatataboom

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Re: 25 years and everyone seems to have missed it...
« Reply #10 on: 27-04-2011, 20:04:26 »
The design of the reactor at Chernobyl was terrible and its explosion was caused by an insane experiment without proper measuring equipment. Something like that could never happen today. Looking at Fukushima, everything that could go wrong did go wrong and in that respect we're certainly not lucky!

Yeah, Fukushima is a disaster, a kind of force majeure beyond any predictions.

However, wasn't Chernobyl case is a test gone wrong? Well anyone enlighten me whether this test was a routine, normal or insane ones?

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On that occasion, it was decided to carry out a test of the capability of the plant equipment to provide enough electrical power to operate the reactor core cooling system and emergency equipment during the transition period between a loss of main station electrical power supply and the start up of the emergency power supply provided by diesel engines.
AFAIK they ran a test with the gauges switched off and when the new shift came in for work the old shift forgot to tell them they were running a test. Since the gauges were swithed off the new shift didn't notice anything until it was too late and the gas exploded.

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Re: 25 years and everyone seems to have missed it...
« Reply #11 on: 27-04-2011, 21:04:43 »
Fukushima is way worse than chernobyl.

6 reactors are heavily damaged and every reactor had 250 kilos plutonium in it.
One of the most dangerous elements in the world.

for example: when you breath in 1 of a million of a gram you will get cancer.
spreid 1 kilos around the world and everybody get cancer.

WE as mankind have failed to use this nuclear energy in a proper way.

as Einstein said: The release of atom power has changed everything except our way of thinking...the solution to this problem lies in the heart of mankind. If only I had known, I should have become a watchmaker.”


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Re: 25 years and everyone seems to have missed it...
« Reply #12 on: 27-04-2011, 21:04:00 »

AFAIK they ran a test with the gauges switched off and when the new shift came in for work the old shift forgot to tell them they were running a test. Since the gauges were swithed off the new shift didn't notice anything until it was too late and the gas exploded.

That is an interesting variant. Never heard of that before.

I usually imagine my own sounds with it, like `tjunk, tupdieyupdiedee` aaa enemy spotted, ratatatataboom

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Re: 25 years and everyone seems to have missed it...
« Reply #13 on: 27-04-2011, 21:04:00 »
Fukushima is way worse than chernobyl.

6 reactors are heavily damaged and every reactor had 250 kilos plutonium in it.
One of the most dangerous elements in the world.

for example: when you breath in 1 of a million of a gram you will get cancer.
spreid 1 kilos around the world and everybody get cancer.

WE as mankind have failed to use this nuclear energy in a proper way.

as Einstein said: The release of atom power has changed everything except our way of thinking...the solution to this problem lies in the heart of mankind. If only I had known, I should have become a watchmaker.”

Einstein always amuses me. He gives the world the bomb and then spends the next few decades making pithy quotes about the deep spiritual significance of that act. Almost as bad as Oppenheimer going on about "destroyers of worlds" at the test. Narcissists.

But there has to be a sense of perspective. The abuse of children and the hideous consequences of that is just as bad if not worse than nuclear energy ... and is something that possibly creates a psychological addiction to the worst of technologies instead the best.

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Re: 25 years and everyone seems to have missed it...
« Reply #14 on: 27-04-2011, 21:04:51 »
Without nuclear bombs....We would have had world war 3 and 4
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