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Title: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 17-08-2010, 11:08:45
After the World Cup we need this to follow some real football!

The Premier League is up and running since Tottenham and Manchester City ended with 0 - 0 after an amazing performance by City goalkeeper Joe Hart. Will it be another PL season where the big teams fight for silverware undisturbed or will we see some new uprising teams join in as well?

La Liga is starting at the end of this month with Mourinho behind the wheel of Real Madrid and as always, Pep Guardiola leading Barcelona. Anything but an epic clash of the titans will be disappointing.

Serie A will start the same weekend with 17 teams from the previous A season and 3 new teams from the Serie B, Roma, Sampdoria and Udinese.

So, what's your team and your feelings for this upcoming season?

I'm rooting as usual for the Spurs in the PL, we could have had a better start but Hart was mad that Saturday afternoon. Hopefully we'll be in the top fighting for the big win but it'll be hard. Chelsea is too good ATM.

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Thorondor123 on 17-08-2010, 13:08:58
When Johny goes Marching down the wing
O'Shea, O'Shea!
When Johny goes Marching down the wing
O'Shea, O'Shea!
When Johnny goes marching down the wing,
The Stretford End will stand and sing,
We all know that Johnny's gonna score!

So, yeah.. Manchester United.


PS: United > Liverpool

*Sees Ciupita and runs away*
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 17-08-2010, 13:08:48

Some Champions League qualifications and playoffs tonight, almost forgot

First up, viking battle!

Rosenborg BK - FC Köpenhamn (Playoff)

And the qualifications

FC Zenit St Petersburg - Auxerre
Bsc Young Boys Bern - Tottenham Hotspur

Gonna try to catch some of the Hotspur action but might check most of the Nordic playoff, lots of Swedish players in both teams and two good teams as well
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Smiles on 17-08-2010, 13:08:42
Ajax tonight, they better kick olymp's asses twice so i can enjoy this season  ;D. Netherlands brought FC Twente because, sadly, they won the title  ::).
Never been a real football fan although im Ajax supporter since i can remember.

*Champions league

Dutch league is Eredivisie.
My favorite outcome would be :
1. Ajax
2. Feyenoord
3. Either PSV or VVV
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 17-08-2010, 13:08:23
After the World Cup we need this to follow some real football!

The Premier League is up and running since Tottenham and Manchester City ended with 0 - 0 after an amazing performance by City goalkeeper Joe Hart. Will it be another PL season where the big teams fight for silverware undisturbed or will we see some new uprising teams join in as well?

La Liga is starting at the end of this month with Mourinho behind the wheel of Real Madrid and as always, Pep Guardiola leading Barcelona. Anything but an epic clash of the titans will be disappointing.

Serie A will start the same weekend with 17 teams from the previous A season and 3 new teams from the Serie B, Roma, Sampdoria and Udinese.

So, what's your team and your feelings for this upcoming season?

I'm rooting as usual for the Spurs in the PL, we could have had a better start but Hart was mad that Saturday afternoon. Hopefully we'll be in the top fighting for the big win but it'll be hard. Chelsea is too good ATM.



Out of interest, what made you decide to support Spurs?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 17-08-2010, 14:08:35
Quote
Out of interest, what made you decide to support Spurs?
Spurs have been the team of my family since my grandfather worked in England during his early 20's

It has been some long years but this last season and a ticket to CL really shows something new and interesting is happening
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Yam52 on 17-08-2010, 16:08:51
When Johny goes Marching down the wing
O'Shea, O'Shea!
When Johny goes Marching down the wing
O'Shea, O'Shea!
When Johnny goes marching down the wing,
The Stretford End will stand and sing,
We all know that Johnny's gonna score!

So, yeah.. Manchester United.


PS: United > Liverpool



*Sees Ciupita and runs away*

All 'round the Fields of Anfield Road
Where once we watched the King Kenny play (and could he play play)
We had Heighway on the wing
We had dreams and songs to sing
Of the glory round the Fields of Anfield Road


So, yeah.. Liverpool FC.


PS:LFC>Man Utd

*Sees Thor and draws a gun*


Also, my team in israel, Hapoel Tel-Aviv, is facing Red Bull Zalzburg tomorrow in the CL qualifications, hope we do well.

last year we beat Rapid Vienna 1-5 and 3-0 in the European League group stage, we also beat Hamburg and Celtic once each, and finished the top of our group...ended up losing to Rubin Kazan in the 1\16 final.



Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Ciupita on 17-08-2010, 16:08:23
LIVERPOOL!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 17-08-2010, 16:08:37
I felt so bad for Liverpool, they did a great game with most of the time with one man less then the other team and lost 3 points due to a simple mistake
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Fuchs on 17-08-2010, 16:08:11
Meh, clubs.. Never gets me excited. On to Euro Cup.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 17-08-2010, 19:08:28
Thank god for a football thread! +3 iRep for you.


So darn angry that I missed the Spurs-City game. Was working at the time, recording the game at home, trying to avoid hearing about the result, until a colleague told me by mistake.


I'm cheering for spurs in PL, spurs and liverpool.


however, I am black at heart.

Tomorrow, my team AIK faces Levski Sofia in the first qualification round of the Euro League.

We got the assistant manager to Rafa Benitez when he won the CL with Liverpool, Alex Miller, as a coach. Hopefully his experience can lead us to the euro league, giving us some WELL needed millions (really unlikely though, we don't stand a chance).


But yeah, sure hope Tottenham will continue as good as they started against City.


I HATE mancherster City, more than I hate chelsea. They buy like 5 superstars everye season and think that's the key to success. Sure hope they won't place in the top 7 this season either.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 17-08-2010, 21:08:16
Just watching the Spurs - Young Boys game, Rawhide you must be fuming!

3-0 down within 30 mins to a team Spurs were meant to destroy. I can't believe what I am seeing. Unbelievable stuff  :o
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 17-08-2010, 21:08:46
Dude, I'm speechless

Until the Bassongs beautiful header Young Boys were eating us alive!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 17-08-2010, 21:08:55
Just watching the Spurs - Young Boys game, Rawhide you must be fuming!

3-0 down within 30 mins to a team Spurs were meant to destroy. I can't believe what I am seeing. Unbelievable stuff  :o
god damn incredible. my jaws literally dropped when I checked what the score was.

I'm cheering for tottenham, and as if that wasn't enough I placed a decent sized bet on them! what the hell are they doing?!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Paavopesusieni on 17-08-2010, 21:08:58
Soccer sucks, Hockey rules!

Anyway Manchester United pwns.

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 17-08-2010, 21:08:31
Thankfully I only had 11 Swedish crowns to bet for a Spurs victory (About 1,20€)

Unleash the CROUCH MACHINEEEEE
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 17-08-2010, 21:08:24
Arsenal arsenal!!!!

Man UTD put on anice display of crisp footie yesterday vs annoying newcastle. I just really do not want chelsea to take the title again, fucking hate them. Go Arsenal and aston villa
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 17-08-2010, 21:08:04
Soccer sucks, Hockey rules!

Anyway Manchester United pwns.



All 3 of those points are perfect examples of why you shouldn't post in this thread

Thankfully I only had 11 Swedish crowns to bet for a Spurs victory (About 1,20€)

Unleash the CROUCH MACHINEEEEE

Well Spurs managed to get a goal back just before half time so they are in with a decent chance now as long as they don't concede any more. The tie will definately be theirs if they can get it back to 3-3 going to White Hart Lane. Still another 135 mins of the tie to go....
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 17-08-2010, 23:08:18
Those last minutes when both the Spurs and the Boys played on the results and nothing happened at all except Pavlyuchenko and Keane trying to get something going was the worst 10 minutes ever in a long while...

EDIT:

Just found an old Swedish TV show about the World Cup in South Korea and Japan. God I loved that World Cup. So many classic moments. But I like it mainly since Sweden did a solid effort.

Also some classic interviews in this show with fans from different nations. The British guy is the best.

"When we had 1 - 0 against Sweden everything was fine. We were gonna win. Then the guy on the telly says something about Sweden making a substitute and the guys name is "Nicklas Alexandersson" and also says that he is rubbish and couldn't even make one day in lower British leagues. When he said that I knew he was gonna score. I could feel it"

And damn, he did :D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 19-08-2010, 22:08:10

Lots of games today, mostly Europa League games.

Anyhow, gotta tell something awesome. A buddy of mine told of this awesome Firefox add-on called FootieFox. You can find it on Firefox add-on page.

You can add almost any league you would like to follow, add what your favorite teams are and wham!

Live score in the status bar of your Firefox, and if you like a sound of your choice can play every time there's a goal.

I love it
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 19-08-2010, 22:08:02
yeah had footiefox a while back, has prolly been patched a lot since i last used it. Nevertheless, don't use it anymore. I go to www.livescore.com to check results etc.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 21-08-2010, 14:08:16
Saturday! Saturday! Saturday!

Arsenal    v    Blackpool   
Birmingham   v    Blackburn   
Everton   v    Wolves   
Stoke City   v    Tottenham   
WBA   v    Sunderland      
West Ham Utd   v    Bolton         
Wigan Athletic   v    Chelsea   

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 21-08-2010, 14:08:04
Saturday! Saturday! Saturday!

Arsenal    v    Blackpool   
Birmingham   v    Blackburn   
Everton   v    Wolves   
Stoke City   v    Tottenham   
WBA   v    Sunderland      
West Ham Utd   v    Bolton         
Wigan Athletic   v    Chelsea   




awesome!! betting time!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 21-08-2010, 17:08:36
Theo Walcott finally showed his potential as a football when he was allowed to start for Arsenal, Hattrick!!!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 21-08-2010, 17:08:16
Most impressive.
Never liked Walcott though, all he got is his speed, without that he would be playing in division 5.



Gareth Bale on the other hand! What a player! IMO he has the potential to be the best player in the world, he's got a left foot to die for.
He scored 2 goals now against stoke too.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 21-08-2010, 17:08:31
Walcott has potential. Today it wasn't his speed that allowed him to score 3 goals.

Also, did you see the bale goal against stoke? GOal of the season so far
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 21-08-2010, 18:08:08
haven't seen walcotts goal, so can't say anything about todays game. That was just my impression from the last years...

Oh yeah bales goal was simply incredible, as I said, a left foot to die for.
But also, fantastic assist from Lennon!

The goal:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_292673&v=CKLmxfgFya4&feature=iv
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 21-08-2010, 18:08:40
Yeah, I've agreed but I think thats because he hasn't had a chance to play full games
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 21-08-2010, 18:08:06
Bale! Bale! Bale!

What a performance.

That volley was amazing, but in all fairness. Stoke did a great game! A draw would have been fair but I prefer Spurs winning  ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 21-08-2010, 19:08:16
Chelsea is up 1 nil at the half. Fooking hate the blues. Cocksuckers, but I don't like wigan either... so hope they draw I guess
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 01-09-2010, 00:09:33
Spurs lost against Wigan last Saturday...  :'(

Watched the re-run of it and damn, Spurs had some good pressure but just didn't manage to get that white thing in between the posts.

Anyhow, Zlatan to Milan!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 01-09-2010, 01:09:18
Rawhide, if you don't already, I'd advise you to check Euro Talk and 08-fotboll over at svenskafans.com great shows, the first euro talk since spring was yesterday.

http://www.svenskafans.com/fantv/default.asp?program=1134

Was a good show, though I hate the guy to the left.

And yeah, Zlatan to Milan. Don't know what to think of that. This whole ordeal has made me dislike Barcelona a lot, throughout the summer they've acted like bitches.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: NoCoolOnesLeft on 01-09-2010, 20:09:26
(http://assets.liverpoolfc.tv/uploads/copy_(3)_of_prop100829-03-liverpool_wba.jpg)

That is all.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 01-09-2010, 20:09:58

That is all.

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/09/01/article-0-0AE7ECEA000005DC-446_468x286.jpg)

And we got him so cheap they call it robbery...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: NoCoolOnesLeft on 01-09-2010, 20:09:59
Yep. Would of had him in a heartbeat. Although, with Gerrard and Cole in contention I don't think he is really needed. Especially considering Pacheco has been given a new number and is breaking through as a first time player. This kid is going to be one amazing prospect for us in the next year or two. Keep an eye out when he comes on for us.

Never-the-less, a great signing. Spurs have a quality squad. Reckon they'll do better than Man City this year. It's going to be difficult but I hope you lot make the knock-out stages in the CL.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 01-09-2010, 22:09:57
Awesome!! Spurs got VdV, great signing!

what a midfield they've got now. Bale, Modric, Palacios, Huddlestone, Van der Vaart, Lennon, Sandro, Kranjcar, Jenas, dos Santos. Quite a broad midfield. Almost too much competition!


And signing cole is one of the most interesting signings of this transfer-window. He's got as good ball-control as Messi.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: ebevan91 on 01-09-2010, 22:09:06
My kind of football begins tomorrow. (American)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Thorondor123 on 01-09-2010, 22:09:50
My kind of football sport begins tomorrow. (American rugby)
You message was broken, I fixed it.

Carry on.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: NoCoolOnesLeft on 01-09-2010, 23:09:10
Cole is a great player, without a doubt. Unfortunately we're playing him as an attacking midfielder just behind Torres which is usually were Gerrard would play. Gerrard ends up playing behind Cole along-side another defensive midfielder where he is able to roam about and create play.

Unfortunately, this causes some problems.

Even though its his preferred position, Cole hasn't played as an attacking midfielder for about seven years. Hes still incredibly rusty. He cannot receive and play the ball with his back to the goal and has to run with it. Unfortunately, he always seems to have his back to the goal. In the ideal situation where he's played forward with the ball ahead of him, hes pretty prolific. A lot of fans consider him a winger but I think his talents are completely wasted there. Unfortunately, Liverpool is a club lacking any natural wide players and we've too many 'makeshift' wingers as is. In my opinion, having Cole as a left (!) winger is cringe-worthy. The ball sticks to his feet, he's relatively quick and he has great control in small spaces so he should ease himself into this position over the course of the season.

The other problem is that with Gerrard playing in a more defensive or central midfield role he tends to roam about too much and goes missing. He can end up leaving Lucas horribly exposed at times. Whilst being a great attacking player, he simply does not like to defend. I've my own opinion of Lucas but I can tell you he is not a defensive midfielder and I'm still baffled as to why both Benitez and now Hodgson play him in that role.

Ever since Alonso left Liverpool's midfield has lacked creativity and someone who can play accurate long balls that a 4-2-3-1 formation requires. Lucas isn't Alonso's replacement nor was he ever meant to be. Mascherano was a great defensive player but he lacked any skill moving forward. A Lucas-Poulsen partnership in midfield is awful to watch - absolutely no creativity and there's no connection between them and the forwards. The reason I'm so optimistic about Meireles - he's providing that creativity that's been missing from our midfield for ages. He's great at going forward, can dribble with the ball well and isn't afraid to take a few shots at distance. If we can finally get this midfield problem sorted this season, once Torres is fully fit and firing all cylinders again we can start getting back to our 08/09 performance.

So yeah. I can go on about football all day. Don't even get me started on the whole Aquilani thing.

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 01-09-2010, 23:09:25
Anyhow, Gerrard is one of my favorite players of all time if you look at "classic" players who are still in the top league

Amazing player in all ways and a great captain
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 01-09-2010, 23:09:36
Couldn't agree more. Gerrard is probably my favourite player in the world. (and yes, I cheer for both spurs and pool in PL).

What makes me adore a player is mostly love for a club. I love totti as well (not as much as gerrard, totti is far from the gentleman that steven is).
This because they have both played in the same club their whole careers, I love that.


Nocoolonesleft
Yeah Meireles is a great transfer. Can't believe you got him that easily and with relative low interest from other clubs (united were interested, but nothing happened though). He could very well be the replacement pool has been seeking since Alonso left.

Pool does have an offensive to die for. Torres, Cole and Gerrard together gives me an orgasm.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: NoCoolOnesLeft on 02-09-2010, 00:09:08
Gerrard has a great love for Liverpool and I believe he'll finish his career here. He's 30 now but I reckon he'll have a good few years left in him. I think his current contract continues for a few years but regardless, he'll sign on for another.

There's still some debate as to whether he really did consider moving to Chelsea after winning the CL in Istanbul in 05 but there are many rumors still doing the rounds suggesting a handful of key players played a lot in convincing him to stay. I'm glad he did. When Gerrard goes missing it really shows in the performance of the team. Not because he's our captain (I'd say our vice-captain, Carragher, has more command over the team on the pitch - especially the back four) but because he's a key playmaker and his presence on the pitch commands a lot of respect. There were many reasons why we had such a poor season last season but one of the factors was Gerrard's performance. The 09/10 season was definitely one of the worst of his career. This was mostly down to disagreements between himself and Benitez but a lot of it had to do with the fact that Gerrard had his England hat on. A lot of fans including myself genuinely believe his head wasn't in the game, but in fact looking forward to the World Cup. Alas, he's back from it all now and the real Gerrard is back.

As for Meireles, I don't think anyone saw it coming. We got him for relatively cheap too. Apparently he only had a year or so left on his contract at Porto and they weren't willing to let him go for nothing next year, so when we put in an offer they bit our hand off. Moutinho is tipped to take Meireles' first team place at Porto this season so they weren't too bothered about losing such a talented key player. I, along with a lot of other fans were amazed when we signed him. If all goes well and he finds his feet in the Premier League it'll totally transform our team.

We do have a good offensive team but as previously mentioned we've got problems linking up the midfield with the forwards. Its yet to click but I have faith it'll come good.

Besides Pacheco, the other player I really do rate and suggest keeping an eye out for is Maxi Rodriguez. Whenever he comes on from the bench the whole forward side of the team plays much more fluidly, and he links up well with Torres. The downside is he's yet to start proper for the first team being kept out by Kuyt. To be honest, I consider Maxi a much more complete player than Kuyt and he's exactly what we need in our squad.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 13-09-2010, 18:09:14
Had a mighty good time watching Everton vs United last Saturday!

Nice to see Everton really showing their spirits

Anyhow, tommorrow...

SPUUUUURS!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 13-09-2010, 19:09:41
Gerrard has a great love for Liverpool and I believe he'll finish his career here. He's 30 now but I reckon he'll have a good few years left in him. I think his current contract continues for a few years but regardless, he'll sign on for another.

There's still some debate as to whether he really did consider moving to Chelsea after winning the CL in Istanbul in 05 but there are many rumors still doing the rounds suggesting a handful of key players played a lot in convincing him to stay. I'm glad he did. When Gerrard goes missing it really shows in the performance of the team. Not because he's our captain (I'd say our vice-captain, Carragher, has more command over the team on the pitch - especially the back four) but because he's a key playmaker and his presence on the pitch commands a lot of respect. There were many reasons why we had such a poor season last season but one of the factors was Gerrard's performance. The 09/10 season was definitely one of the worst of his career. This was mostly down to disagreements between himself and Benitez but a lot of it had to do with the fact that Gerrard had his England hat on. A lot of fans including myself genuinely believe his head wasn't in the game, but in fact looking forward to the World Cup. Alas, he's back from it all now and the real Gerrard is back.

As for Meireles, I don't think anyone saw it coming. We got him for relatively cheap too. Apparently he only had a year or so left on his contract at Porto and they weren't willing to let him go for nothing next year, so when we put in an offer they bit our hand off. Moutinho is tipped to take Meireles' first team place at Porto this season so they weren't too bothered about losing such a talented key player. I, along with a lot of other fans were amazed when we signed him. If all goes well and he finds his feet in the Premier League it'll totally transform our team.

We do have a good offensive team but as previously mentioned we've got problems linking up the midfield with the forwards. Its yet to click but I have faith it'll come good.

Besides Pacheco, the other player I really do rate and suggest keeping an eye out for is Maxi Rodriguez. Whenever he comes on from the bench the whole forward side of the team plays much more fluidly, and he links up well with Torres. The downside is he's yet to start proper for the first team being kept out by Kuyt. To be honest, I consider Maxi a much more complete player than Kuyt and he's exactly what we need in our squad.

Also, keep an eye out for Suso and Jonjo Shelvey from the reserves. Both will be big stars in the future.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 13-09-2010, 19:09:00
I really wanted Birmingham to beat L'pool :(
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 13-09-2010, 19:09:09
Looking forward to seeing Van der Vaart in spurs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE2pQvAjCVQ

what a player!
:)


Tomorrow it's Bremen-Tottenham, and on wednesday Bayern-Roma. God I'm all excited about them. Especially now that I found out they will be shown on a channel I have, and not one of the pay-channels!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 13-09-2010, 19:09:55
I'm so nervous about Bremen v Spurs

If Spurs win I'm not even gotta bother about going to work the next day
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Paasky on 13-09-2010, 20:09:05
When Johny goes Marching down the wing
O'Shea, O'Shea!
When Johny goes Marching down the wing
O'Shea, O'Shea!
When Johnny goes marching down the wing,
The Stretford End will stand and sing,
We all know that Johnny's gonna score!

So, yeah.. Manchester United.


PS: United > Liverpool

*Sees Ciupita and runs away*


GLORY GLORY MAN UNITED!
GLORY GLORY MAN UNITED!
GLORY GLORY MAN UNITED!
Your troops are marching on ON ON!!!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: [WDW]Megaraptor on 13-09-2010, 21:09:22
My kind of football begins tomorrow. (American)

Mine too.

So, did the Lions get robbed yesterday or not?

Also, it looks like my team (Carolina) is in for a long long season.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 13-09-2010, 21:09:40
Don't go off topic.

This thread is for football, not handegg. make your own thread.


Spurs have been pretty damn uneven, every other game is amazing and the rest is worthless...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 13-09-2010, 21:09:53
When Johny goes Marching down the wing
O'Shea, O'Shea!
When Johny goes Marching down the wing
O'Shea, O'Shea!
When Johnny goes marching down the wing,
The Stretford End will stand and sing,
We all know that Johnny's gonna score!

So, yeah.. Manchester United.


PS: United > Liverpool

*Sees Ciupita and runs away*


GLORY GLORY MAN UNITED!
GLORY GLORY MAN UNITED!
GLORY GLORY MAN UNITED!
Your troops are marching on ON ON!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_X5BKBc1x4&NR=1

Easily one of the funniest videos going.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: [WDW]Megaraptor on 13-09-2010, 23:09:55
Don't go off topic.

This thread is for football, not handegg. make your own thread.

Off-topic? The title said this thread was about football, then I opened it and it was all about kick-ball instead.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Thorondor123 on 13-09-2010, 23:09:23
Observe:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sD_8prYOxo
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: [WDW]Megaraptor on 14-09-2010, 01:09:46
Observe:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sD_8prYOxo

Cleese is fail and obviously doesn't understand football if he thinks thinking is not involved.

Hint: The offensive coach calls a play, the players then have to adapt that play to whatever the defense has set up. This often involves a few seconds of frantic switching at the line. The defense meanwhile is trying to figure out what the offense is doing and change their plans accordingly.

American football is the ultimate sport. Playing it well requires toughness, lots of teamwork, intelligence, speed, strength, agility, precision, endurance, lots of planning, strategy, communication and coordination. No other sport requires that its players excel at all of these. NFL players are the greatest all-around athletes in the world.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Thorondor123 on 14-09-2010, 01:09:13
Observe:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sD_8prYOxo
Herp derp durr hurr
This thread is about football. Feel free to create one about American rugby if you so wish.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 14-09-2010, 09:09:31
Observe:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sD_8prYOxo
NFL players are the greatest all-around athletes in the world.

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA http://www.gbcruise.com/Brown%20orig1.jpg

That isn't athletic, that's just a fat fuck who stands there to plug holes. Studies show that football players only are actually moving about 11 minutes total for a game. Pit football fat fucks against soccer (football) or basketball or tennis athletes and they would be subpar.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Smiles on 14-09-2010, 12:09:09
Today : FC Twente - Internazionale

Tommorow : Real Madrid  AFC Ajax
w00000000000t!    

joy joy!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: NTH on 14-09-2010, 13:09:36
Tonight there will be a live massacre between FC Twente - Internazionale, where Twente will be the massacred one, I'm afraid.

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 14-09-2010, 14:09:21
Rangers play Man Utd today... holy tits. I'm in Glasgow
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 14-09-2010, 20:09:47
AND WE'RE OFF!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Fuchs on 14-09-2010, 20:09:01
Oh Megaraptor, you so trollin'..
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 14-09-2010, 20:09:52
GOOOOOOAAAAAL

Great ball from Asso-Ekotto to bale shoots it and pasanen puts it in his own goal! (crouch would have put it in if he wasn't there)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 14-09-2010, 21:09:24
CL is live and I love every second

Spurs got 2 to 1 against Bremen but I would not say that Bremen is giving up yet...

And what's happening between Twente and Inter?!

BTW, Crouchy's header was a beauty!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 14-09-2010, 21:09:42
Wow Bremen must have drunk pure adrenaline in the break. They are just as good now as Spurs was in the first.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: hslan.totaler_humbug on 14-09-2010, 22:09:35
FFS, watching Barcelona against Athens. Barcelona is dominating like hell, but they miss every chance the get the fourth goal.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 14-09-2010, 22:09:52
Bremen had the knife to Spurs throat all second half!

Thank god we didn't lose it
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: [WDW]Megaraptor on 14-09-2010, 23:09:30
That isn't athletic, that's just a fat fuck who stands there to plug holes. Studies show that football players only are actually moving about 11 minutes total for a game. Pit football fat fucks against soccer (football) or basketball or tennis athletes and they would be subpar.

Linemen may look fat, but the average NFL lineman can run a 40 yard dash in 5.2 seconds.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 15-09-2010, 00:09:30
For those who can stomach it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhShie2OR-0

Valencia's ankle break/dislocation from the United - Rangers game. I've seen worse but it still makes me squirm.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 15-09-2010, 00:09:45
meh seen much worse.

Tomi Maanoja, goalkeeper in my team AIK:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRmGy-oO9p4&feature=related

Was put out of action for a whole year.
He was really promising, but that injury prolly destroyed his career. been worthless this spring and currently has 3 goalies who'll play before he does.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 15-09-2010, 00:09:09
Well my Clubs are

Racing Club, Argentine Club, one of the 5 Greatest of our Country, with the best Fans in all America, the First Argentinean team to win the Clubs World Cup against Celtic in 1967, also has the Biggest "Flag" in the World. http://www.racingblog.com.ar/racing/wp-content/fotos/2010/07/trapo.jpg

Juventus FC, were my Heroes are, Nedved (Retired), Del Piero and Buffon. Kinda not following their matches, hard to follow the Italian League from here, if anyone can give me a heads up or something like that, would be appreciated. I Also heard they sold most of their Stars, like Camoranesi, Diego (Who played a Bit for Juve, but hes an excellent player), Giovinco and some others.


I Love Football, and i bought two Shirts of National Teams uh, one, is Pirlo Number 21, Italian National Team, South Africa 2010 and the other, Klose Number 11, German National Team, Black with Golden Numbers and all that stuff, sexy isnt it?






Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Smiles on 15-09-2010, 19:09:50
Haha go Tukkers! though there prob arnt any in the basc 11.

Ajax tonight, i give 'm less than Twente. Real Madrid will prob show some skills.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 15-09-2010, 21:09:38
made lotsa bets for the games tonight.

All in all I bet like 15€
Can win like 700€, and so far many of the bets look promising.


Watching Bayern-Roma. Couldn't decide who tho cheer for, but there were some good odds on roma (5.5 times the money if they win) so I bet on them, and now I know who i'm cheering for.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: [WDW]Megaraptor on 16-09-2010, 02:09:51
How big is betting on soccer?

In the US, some cynical types have said soccer will never catch on because there is not enough scoring to create meaningful point spreads for gambling houses, so they can't make money.

Is betting on soccer done the same way as other sports betting? That is, with picking point spreads instead of simply choosing winners?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 16-09-2010, 02:09:35
It's done in thousands of ways.

1X2 (win for home team, tie, win for away team).
Result (3-1, 2-0, 0-0 etc.)
Number of goals (>0.5, >1.5, <0.5 etc.)
What player scores and how many goals
Number of corner kicks
Number of yellow/red cards
Possession

the list goes on and on. You can combine 2 bets to increase the odds. For example, I bet that Roma would win, while in the same coupon betting that arsenal would win by >3.5 goals. Then the odds of the two are combined. Both of them have to be right, but the odds are much higher.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: DLFReporter on 16-09-2010, 09:09:30
Oh Ted, sorry to hear that you bet on Roma. ;)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 16-09-2010, 09:09:08
yeah well :P the odds were good.
Didn't just bet on roma though...

Sadly (but not to no surprise) I went down like 14€.
if only chamakh would have scored one more goal (HE had to do it) I would have won a LOT
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Ts4EVER on 20-09-2010, 16:09:55
Observe:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sD_8prYOxo

Cleese is fail and obviously doesn't understand football if he thinks thinking is not involved.

Hint: The offensive coach calls a play, the players then have to adapt that play to whatever the defense has set up. This often involves a few seconds of frantic switching at the line. The defense meanwhile is trying to figure out what the offense is doing and change their plans accordingly.

American football is the ultimate sport. Playing it well requires toughness, lots of teamwork, intelligence, speed, strength, agility, precision, endurance, lots of planning, strategy, communication and coordination. No other sport requires that its players excel at all of these. NFL players are the greatest all-around athletes in the world.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AvAiUFFCyo
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 20-09-2010, 20:09:11
Did anyone see the epic that was Man Utd V Liverpool yesterday?

Berbatov with the best hat trick I've seen in a long time. If anybody has a video of his second goal, please post it so I can cum in my pants again.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 20-09-2010, 21:09:25
here you go moose :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2ezuvtEBiI
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 20-09-2010, 23:09:35
Thanks ted haha, I loved it!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 25-09-2010, 04:09:17
Woah, you guys seen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oZ7222I4pY&feature=topvideos

Poor guy!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 29-09-2010, 21:09:40
Come on you Spurs!

Did anyone see Milan vs Ajax last night? What the hell is the matter with Robinho?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 29-09-2010, 22:09:30
Sweet Mother of God is anybody watching Spurs vs Twente?

- VdV scores the first CL goal on WHL
- VdV misses the first penalty
- Pavyulchenko makes the other two penalties go in
- VdV gets two yellow cards and is sent out

Crazy!

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 29-09-2010, 22:09:36
London Calling, this is London Calling

What a game! Why?

Started with a penalty, VDV misses, great save by the Twente goalkeeper. VDV was very eager, attacking and running and doing good but also a bit to aggressive, yellow card.

Second half, just a few seconds in VDV breaks loose and does the first CL score on White Hart Lane - ever

Another second later Bale gets a penalty while doing one of his now famous attack runs on the left side

Even do VDV missed his penalty he did not get the chance to shoot the second one. Pavyulchenko took the ball and he did what any man watching the TV at home would do. He scored.

11 minutes later, another penalty for Spurs. 'Pav' did a shoot from outside the box, touched one of the arms of a Twente player. Pav scored again.

4 minutes after that VDV got his second yellow card after a reckless tackle and was sent off

In the 85th minute Gareth Bale did another attack run and scored

4 -1 to the Spurs, we needed this after a few bad PL games and the 2 - 2 game against Bremen

Quote
Tottenham        -            Twente           4-1
 Van Der Vaart 46                       Chadli 56           
 Pavlyuchenk 50 pen.
Sent off: Van Der Vaart 61                 
 Pavlyuchenk 64 pen.
 G.Bale 85           
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 30-09-2010, 00:09:36
Spurs were very lucky tonight, there's no way Twente deserved to be on the end of that scoreline. I think that referee might be under some scrutiny from UEFA after that performance.

Then again Van Der Vaart showed every side of his game;

Brilliance in the goal,

Stupidity in the second yellow.

The away leg for Spurs will be very interesting if they don't get the referee on their side again.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 01-10-2010, 00:10:51
Spurs were very lucky tonight, there's no way Twente deserved to be on the end of that scoreline. I think that referee might be under some scrutiny from UEFA after that performance.

Then again Van Der Vaart showed every side of his game;

Brilliance in the goal,

Stupidity in the second yellow.

The away leg for Spurs will be very interesting if they don't get the referee on their side again.
Yeah, real lucky.

We Spurs fans are enjoying every minute of it at the moment since we all know it won't last long :D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 01-10-2010, 01:10:23
Does sound like it was an incredible game Rawhide :P

After the first game against City it seemed so promising, but since then we've done some very bad games, especially outside of the british isles.. (young boys = disaster!).



Oh and Rawhide, as a swede to another swede:

Guess what I watched tonight.


The summary of the Euro 2004 (EM-krönikan).
It was so emotional. I got the chills, I got angry, I got sad.

I mean...
5-0 against bulgaria.
1-1 against italy (amazing goal by zlatan too)
2-2 against denmark. NORSE-UNITY FTW we showed those italians!

One of the greates games I've seen, the one against denmark. Just because of the situation. 2-2 and both sweden and denmark would advance.

Oh the relief when Mattias Jonsson scored that second goal. Swedes and Danes hugged eachother and all just smiled on the field. sweden had like 100 % posession last 5 minutes (just passing between them).
So great.


And then, the disaster against Holland. Amazing play, but so unlucky. like 5 shots to the bar. Mellberg taking his responsibility and taking the final penalty.



BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY.
Tommy Söderbergs last days in the team.
My favourite coach, why did he have to leave...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 02-10-2010, 04:10:08
Inter-Juventus this Sunday, gonna be Epic

I Bet for Juventus because, i love them,.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 03-10-2010, 03:10:00
EM-krönika

Ah man, a few weeks back I downloaded all the ones you can find online, I love the one from the World Cup 2002 Japan/South Korea

Johan Mjällby known as King Johan in our defense, Anders Svenssons goal against Argentina, winners of the Group of Death.

But yeah, 2004. Edmans kick and Larssons header against Bulgaria, pure perfection
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 24-10-2010, 18:10:31
Cracking good Arsenal-Man City match, throughly enjoyed it.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: NoCoolOnesLeft on 24-10-2010, 20:10:51
PSV 10 - Feyenoord 0

What happened there then.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Fuchs on 24-10-2010, 22:10:56
Hahaha, I laughed so hard at work when I heard that. What the fuck Feyenoord?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 24-10-2010, 22:10:51
Little brother: PSV won against Feyennord with 10-0!
Me: WHAAAA?!


Damn incredible! Sadly though, Toivonen only scored 1 goal, and Marcus Berg none :(
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Smiles on 25-10-2010, 00:10:28
 ;D. Poor Mr Mario! I was more of a fan of him than of Feyenoord. But wooowa wht a massacre.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: NTH on 26-10-2010, 11:10:44
I cringed watching that game. I was texting my brother in law that the score was 5 -0 wtf!!, boy oh boy, little did I know it was going to get much much worse.

Feyenoord always has it's up and downs, they are just going through a difficult down period again.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 28-10-2010, 23:10:52
Saturdays PL games are gonna be epic

Man C vs the Wolves, Arsenal vs West Ham, Chelsea vs Blackburn. I think 3 simple games for 3 big teams and then we got this...

Man U vs Spurs.....

I so wanna see this but I'm still scared.

Old Trafford....
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 28-10-2010, 23:10:08
I dunno but I've got a good feeling for Spurs this weekend. United's defence has been shaky all season and the team spirit has definately been disjointed by the whole Rooney saga.

If Bale plays at his best then the already hopeless John O'Shea will have a nightmare. It's just down to Spurs to test this wobbly United defence, particularly down the flanks, and not give their midfielders too much time on the ball.

When we (Liverpool) played them away in September we allowed average players like Fletcher, O'Shea etc far too much time on the ball and sat far too deep in our own half.

However, as soon as we attacked their defence went to pieces = 2 goals in 10 minutes. Unfortunately after the 2nd we just sat back and thats what you can't afford to do!!

Hopefully Spurs will get some luck and the referee won't add on the usual 7 mins of extra time if United need a late goal!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 30-10-2010, 17:10:10
ARSENALLLLALALALALAL!!! God they deserved to score. Pumped
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: $pitfire on 30-10-2010, 18:10:54
ARSENALLLLALALALALAL!!! God they deserved to score. Pumped
Aye, superb goal by Song... Green had a good game, and the result could've been much worse for West Ham without him
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 30-10-2010, 18:10:14
Weird to hear green having a good game haha
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 30-10-2010, 20:10:13
Mark Clattenburg - you have just had a shocker!

He doesn't give a penalty for Nani doing his usual antics in the area - correct decision

Gomes puts the ball down so he can take what he thinks is a free kick, Nani turns round puts ball in the net. Linesman obviously flags. Clattenburg sees neither as his back is turned, gives goal despite the linesman's and Spurs player's protests.

What a joke. The fact that it has happend at Old Trafford doesn't surprise me however.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 08-11-2010, 21:11:40
So... A bit late.

But.

Spurs vs Inter on WHL

Saw it with my girlfriend at a local sportsbar

Best damn day in my life, good food, beer, pretty girl and an unforgettable game
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 09-11-2010, 22:11:03
Spurs vs Sunderland

VDV scores after about an hour of play, Sunderland scores just about one minute after that thanks to a big mistake in the Spurs defense by Gallas and Kaboul.

After that almost a fist fights breaks out between VDV and some Sunderland players after a harsh tackle on Modric

20 minutes left and Spurs can need a win on WHL
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 09-11-2010, 23:11:46
Back down to earth after the Inter game eh Rawhide?  ;)

That's the trouble with the Champions League, unless you have an incredible squad your domestic form is gonna suffer as a  result of the efforts in the European games.

Also, I think Pavlyuchenko is best suited to coming on as a super sub rather than starting but you should still expect that Spurs XI to beat Sunderland at home.

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 10-11-2010, 00:11:13
Haha, yeah Chadoi. That's life and soccer.

After beating the CL Champion's with 3 - 1, the next day you lose against Bolton and get a draw against Sunderland

I just hope we can ride out this season with both CL and PL and hold our heads high at the end

I agree regarding Pavl, but by the looks of it, Defoe will be back shortly!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 13-11-2010, 15:11:22
Jesus Christ, Manchester fucking United.

Aston Villa had them by the balls, less then 30 min to go, 2 - 0 to Villa and still Manchester manages to come back and get a draw

FUUUUUUU!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 13-11-2010, 18:11:11
I wanted to punch babies, ugh i turned it on to watch Man utd score their last 2 goals. goddamn't
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 14-11-2010, 19:11:02
Also, that chelsea game today. WOW. I am so happy right now
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 14-11-2010, 19:11:14
Moose, what happened?!

My dad came screaming "Sunderland! Sunderland! Three goals! Sunderland!"

Tonight: Milan vs Inter

Zlatan vs Eto and his gang

Zlatan vs his old team

Titans will clash, I'm hoping for Milan but mostly I hope for a good and even game
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Stryker on 14-11-2010, 19:11:19
Bayern Muenchen!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 14-11-2010, 20:11:01
4 minutes into the fight between Milan and Inter and Materazzi cuts down Zlatan in the box

1 - 0 to Milan after penalty goal by Zlatan
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 20-11-2010, 01:11:31
Spain got pwnd by Portugal, 4-0.

Messi scored a goal against Brazil a few days ago at a last minute, sadly it wasnt such a big match, Brazil didnt used their best players like Pato, Kaka, Adriano, Julio Cesar, Maicon, etc.

Dani Alves, truly badass player, Pastore, a young guy is also growing up and Real Madrid, Barcelona, Inter and Juventus want him.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 20-11-2010, 14:11:38
ARSENAL V TOTTENHAM! Sorry TED
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 20-11-2010, 15:11:14
Fuck, this, game. FUCK
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 20-11-2010, 15:11:20
I was gonna write with capslock but lets dont

I'll just say: This was even bigger then our 3-1 win over Inter

Go fuck yourself, Arsenal :D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 20-11-2010, 17:11:08
Ugh fuck that. Man UTD is beating wigan and wigan is now two men down, shall be interesting
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 20-11-2010, 21:11:18
Fuck, this, game. FUCK
He agrees with you

(http://i.imgur.com/j5f3K.gif?ref=nf)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 21-11-2010, 01:11:09
I saw that, and I wanted to agree with Wenger :(
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Paasky on 21-11-2010, 03:11:41
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24pd1KPsm9k
WHOOOOOOOOOOOO THE FUCK ARE MAN UNIIIIIIIIIITEEEEEEEEED?!?!?!?!?!?!?!


It's the fans that make this game so great.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 24-11-2010, 22:11:45
Another CL night is over

A solid night for Spurs with a rock steady 3 - 0 win over Werder Bremen

Sad to see WB fall apart as they have done these last weeks, they really showed spirit back when this season started
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 24-11-2010, 23:11:52
Fuck the fuck off Man utd
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 24-11-2010, 23:11:56
Fuck the fuck off Man utd
Hear! Hear!

Seriously, Man United. 11 players represent 11% of the team. The rest is fucking luck.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 24-11-2010, 23:11:40
Another CL night is over

A solid night for Spurs with a rock steady 3 - 0 win over Werder Bremen

Sad to see WB fall apart as they have done these last weeks, they really showed spirit back when this season started

To be fair to them they have a lot of injuries in the squad so they were playing 7 reserve players tonight it could have ended much worse.

I'm just gutted Gareth Bale didn't have a heart attack or something he's gonna give Glen Johnson a horrible horrible time this Sunday  :P
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 25-11-2010, 00:11:59
I was in a pub in west side of Glasgow watching the ranger game, that kick to the chest was brutal like haha. Glad nobody mentioned Braga and arsenal yesterday. Fuck, I just did.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 25-11-2010, 00:11:40
Oh shit, Arsenal.

And what the fuck is wrong with Real Madrid? Little pussies Casillas, Ramos and Xavi, dumb guys, getting Red cards to clean their Yellows. Thats not fair, they shouldnt be able to play this CL :), as a punishment you know..
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: SiCaRiO on 25-11-2010, 01:11:15
BARÇA= god

 ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Smiles on 26-11-2010, 02:11:03
The dutch got their asses spanked.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 28-11-2010, 17:11:42
0 - 1 between Spurs and Liverpool

The Spurs defense is having some trouble, mostly Palacios.

45 minutes to go
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Yam52 on 28-11-2010, 18:11:47
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 28-11-2010, 19:11:57
Jesus Christ, if that last shot had gone in I would now be a lot more rich

But 2 -1 to Spurs still gave me some extra money  ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 05-12-2010, 00:12:46
So, UEFA Euro 2012 Qualifying matches and San Marino has -29 Goals.


You're almost there, San Marino!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Smiles on 07-12-2010, 20:12:33
Twente Spurs in 5M.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 07-12-2010, 20:12:30
Twente Spurs in 5M
Come on you Spurs!

Good odds on Spurs/Inter wins tonight!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 07-12-2010, 21:12:56
Whoa, interesting start to the Twente/Spurs game. The Twente goalkeeper fucked up, then Twente got a penalty and now halftime, 1 - 1

Bremen got 1 - 0 on Inter as well

<o>
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Smiles on 08-12-2010, 00:12:14
Great match, enjoyed it 8).
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 08-12-2010, 00:12:34
Tottenham and Trente, crazy
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Smiles on 08-12-2010, 13:12:15
(http://www.geoclopedie.nl/Overige/Plaatjes/nederland-twente.GIF)

sry i had too ^^.
editamento:Even though it was a typo ;)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 08-12-2010, 13:12:10
Just a typo, I know twente is a dutch club
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 20-12-2010, 20:12:48
Manchester City vs Everton tonight

COME ON EVERTON!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 21-12-2010, 00:12:51
Manchester City 1 - 2 Everton

Nice! Nice! Nice!

Too bad about the weather, canceled games are a bitch
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 24-12-2010, 01:12:20
Dude Tim Howard rocks!

I was surprised when i saw him in the WC, great saves, now hes doing a good job in Everton. Go everton!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: im_a_lazy_sod on 24-12-2010, 04:12:42
Yeah that was a great game - City were incredible with the amount of possesion they had - they just couldn't get a goal

Those saves by Howard to keep it 2-1 were amazing - I'm surprises shitty didn't appeal for a penalty much when Howard laid a nice hip and shoulder to make a save  :P

Am looking forward to see how they fit in all the other games next year that were called off - especially now that there's about 15+ games yet to be played and the FA Cup for the PL teams in Jan, as well as the 6 PL teams still playing in Europe  ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 27-12-2010, 17:12:50
Yesterday our national team was beaten to crap by our arch-rival Malaysia 0-3 in Suzuki AFF cup ASEAN tournament. After what was seemingly a perfect start (trashing several team and defeating every other in a near clean-sheet, including Malaysia by 5-1), there were just too many politicians dip their hands into the matter and everything just got worse.

I was so depressed thinking of a defeat by such silly national team (Malaysia!!! You know, the one who always got trashed 10-0, 9-0 or some more than 5 goals defeat). But then I found this video

Before I was like  :'(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KH34h0BGr7s

And then I was like  :)

Yeah, we ain't any better, there is still a huge gap between this world cup class and silly regional tournament.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 27-12-2010, 17:12:44
IIRC Malasya have a Uruguayan guy playing for them..
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: $pitfire on 27-12-2010, 17:12:38
Arsenal-Chelsea tonight. Come on Gunners!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 27-12-2010, 17:12:59
IIRC Malasya have a Uruguayan guy playing for them..

It is Indonesia, his name is Cristian Gonzáles
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cristian_Gonz%C3%A1les
People call him El Loco due to his temper. In the semifinal, we scored 1-0 and 0-1 in two consecutive home and away match against the Philippines, both goals are scored by him. Yes, it is Gonzáles 2 Philippines 0.

Last time we went against the Uruguayan, and we were totalled 7-1, without Diego Forlán.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 27-12-2010, 19:12:09
Where are you from?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 27-12-2010, 19:12:15
Indonesia, check the member map.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 27-12-2010, 22:12:57
GREAT DAY TO BE AN ARSENAL FAN! GUNNNNNNEEEEERRRRSSSS
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: $pitfire on 27-12-2010, 23:12:10
^^ Hell yeah!!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 28-12-2010, 11:12:37
Ah wtf, no injuries and no draw? Damn! :)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 28-12-2010, 13:12:19
Alright, guys. In less then 3 hours we are game once again!

Come on Spurs!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 28-12-2010, 18:12:45
2 - 0 for Spurs against Newcastle

  Two wins for Spurs in 3 days and on New Years Day it's a new game against Fulham who just beat Stoke

 Tonight, Birmingham vs United, but first Westham vs Everton
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 29-12-2010, 00:12:35
Made up with Birmingham's dody late equaliser, it's the type of last minute lucky goal that United are infamous for!

Would love this point they dropped to be decisive at the end of the season  ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 29-12-2010, 03:12:26
I Suggest this thread to be called "The Great Premier League Thread"

Sorry, had to say it :)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 29-12-2010, 07:12:09
Well that's just the football on right now, we switch to UEFA when that is big as well..

More epl tomorrow, go GUNNERS!! Down with Chelsea
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 29-12-2010, 11:12:41
I Suggest this thread to be called "The Great Premier League Thread"

Sorry, had to say it :)
Hey, I mention Serie A from time to time (mostly when Zlatan is playing!)  ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 01-01-2011, 14:01:47
West Brom vs Man United!

1 - 1 after 15 minutes, hold on to your seats!

Hopefully United gets a draw or loses  :-*
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Thorondor123 on 01-01-2011, 14:01:06
West Brom vs Man United!

1 - 1 after 15 minutes, hold on to your seats!

Hopefully United gets a draw or loses  :-*
If it happens because you jinxed it... I might have to ban you.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 01-01-2011, 15:01:35
Bargh, 1 - 2 after 95 minutes. United survives once again.

Next up, Tottenham vs Fulham, London derby, mate!

Other games tonight

  1 Tottenham    - Fulham          16:00
  2 Liverpool    - Bolton          16:00
  3 Man City     - Blackpool       16:00
                                       
  4 Stoke        - Everton         16:00
  5 Sunderland   - Blackburn       16:00
  6 West Ham     - Wolverhampton   16:00
                                       
  7 Hull         - Leicester       16:00
  8 Norwich      - QPR             16:00
  9 Bristol City - Cardiff         16:00
                                       
 10 Burnley      - Sheffield Utd   16:00
 11 Coventry     - Ipswich         16:00
 12 Nottingham   - Barnsley        16:00
 13 Swansea      - Reading         16:00
Birmingham   - Arsenal      X - X 18:30

                                       
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 01-01-2011, 17:01:25
Tottenham barely won over Fulham

Results

  1. Tottenham-Fulham     1-0      1   
  2. Liverpool-Bolton     2-1      1   
  3. Manch.C  -Blackpool  1-0      1   
  4. Stoke    -Everton    2-0      1   
  5. Sunderl. -Blackburn  3-0      1   
  6. West Ham -Wolverh.   2-0      1   
  7. Hull     -Leicester  0-1        2 
  8. Norwich  -Queens PR  1-0      1   
  9. Brist.C  -Cardiff    3-0      1   
 10. Burnley  -Sheff.U    4-2      1   
 11. Coventry -Ipswich    1-1       X   
 12. Nottingh.-Barnsley   2-2       X   
 13. Swansea  -Reading    1-0      1 
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 08-01-2011, 13:01:38
Liverpool sacks Roy Hodgson and Liverpool Legend Kenny Dalglish is taking over!

Arsenal vs Leeds in less in then 20 minutes!

Beckham on the way to Spurs (?), about 90% done according to Spurs coach Harry Redknapp

And now...

FA Cup!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 08-01-2011, 15:01:21
Don't forget Edin Dzeko signing for Man City!

He's going to be a force of nature in the Premier League, pity he signed for that gang of mercenaries  :(
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 08-01-2011, 15:01:34
Could not agree more about Manchester City!

Anyhow, Leeds are taking charge in the the game against Arsenal, 0 - 1 now after a terrible tackle by the Arsenal defense that lead to a penalty

Go Leeds!

EDIT: Arsenal came back in the last minutes and got a penalty, ended 1 - 1

Next stop!

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 09-01-2011, 12:01:02
When I get home, I'll join your discussions here Rawhide. You are pretty lonely in posting here.

I can't believe spurs are signing Beckham, what the hell can he bring to spurs other than the name? all the current midfielders are more than worthy to play in the english 1st team, he's not. Simple as that.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 09-01-2011, 13:01:38
When I get home, I'll join your discussions here Rawhide. You are pretty lonely in posting here.

I can't believe spurs are signing Beckham, what the hell can he bring to spurs other than the name? all the current midfielders are more than worthy to play in the english 1st team, he's not. Simple as that.

Haha, I'm lookin' forward to it! I am really, really lonely in here.

 Yeah, it's crazy. But nobody can deny that Becks sure got some routine. This guy has won everything a club can win, PL, CL, FA Cup and also one league win with Real Madrid.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 09-01-2011, 13:01:56
Can't wait for the Reds vs United today I'm buzzzzzzzzinnnnnnngggggg!!

Hopefully it's a great game, pity it's at Old Trafford would have loved it to be at Anfield so Kenny would have got an amazing reception upon his return!

Right I'm off the pub (fingers crossed)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 09-01-2011, 17:01:15
Cheated by the ref for United's penalty, Howard Webb again though so it is to be expected. The man is a disgrace  >:(

Other than that I was pleased with the Reds, looked like a team again and showed some fight.

If that Man United side wins the Premier League then it's claim to being the best league in the world is a joke. Easily one of the worst United sides I can remember.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 09-01-2011, 17:01:24
That Webb...

I hold my tongue so I do not reveal too much profanity
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 09-01-2011, 22:01:31
Unfortunately Webb showed again his extraordinary abilities...  ::) Fortunately Live game looked much better than this when Hodgson were... I don't know why club management kept him so long...  ::)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 10-01-2011, 01:01:10
Hodgson was supposedly meant to 'steady the ship' until the ownership issues were sorted.

Unfortunately all he succeeding in doing was making it sink even further.........

It was nice having Kenny in charge today. We can start moaning about referees again instead of the manager  ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: ebevan91 on 10-01-2011, 03:01:16
soccer is so boring lol
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: im_a_lazy_sod on 10-01-2011, 04:01:40
I'm an Everton fan and I'll be one of the first to admit that was a soft penalty and a very harsh red card

I've seen much worse go unpunished than what Stevie G did

The penalty was there, but very harsh for it to be given as the contact was minimal and Berbatov went down like a sack of potatoes

The fact that United could only hold on to the 1 goal - even after Gerrard got sent off says a lot about both teams - United should've destroyed Liverpool if they were anything of a team but credit to Liverpool as they showed a lot
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 10-01-2011, 07:01:02
I had much more fun watching Leicester and Man City... so wanted Leicester to eek out a win. Also stevenage V. Newcastle yesterday was a fucking stellar match
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 10-01-2011, 08:01:56
Sheikh Mansour Bin Zayed Has Spent Over £1 Billion Since Arriving At Manchester City

http://www.goal.com/en/news/9/england/2011/01/08/2291337/goalcom-special-sheikh-mansour-bin-zayed-has-spent-over-1
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 10-01-2011, 12:01:51
I had much more fun watching Leicester and Man City... so wanted Leicester to eek out a win. Also stevenage V. Newcastle yesterday was a fucking stellar match

Stevenage - Newcastle was a quality game, made up to see the look on Joey Barton's face when the final whistle went ( I cannot stand him).

Shame about what happened afterwards though, this fan is a disgrace http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/fa_cup/9351888.stm
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 12-01-2011, 12:01:14
I like roy hodgson. He should have been given more time.

But still, I screamed when he bought Christian Poulsen for 10 million pounds. I mean.. SERIOUSLY?!?! wtf!

Fucking hate man city. Now they bought Edin Dzeko... Lets see... they got:
Dzeko, Tevez, Santa cruz, Adebayor, Shaun-Wright-Philips, Balotelli

And then the young talents Jo and my swedish love John Guidetti.
It's a disgrace! Why would anyone want to join their club?! eventually they're just gonna sit on the bench.
Adebayor is exciting, will be great fun if liverpool get their hands on him.

John Guidetti should leave ASAP! even though he's really good he will never play in their first time. I mean, Adebayor on the bench, guidetti is nothing compared to him (yet)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 12-01-2011, 13:01:03
Hodgson was never a big enough manager for Liverpool, he's a nice bloke and all, just not Liverpool material.

He did NOT spend £10 million on Christian Poulson. If he had spent that much I think the fans would have revolted and dragged him out into the streets! It was £4.5 million, which is still £4.5 million too much.

How I see Man City is - they have all these fantastic players but how many of them are actually going to be able to play every week?

I'm sure Dzeko isn't going to want to sit on the bench, same for Balotelli and Tevez. It must be purely about the money for them. Real mercenaries.

Like you said, it's a shame for the youngsters who always get the short end of the stick in these kind of set ups. Let's hope Arsenal win the league and show them how it's done
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 12-01-2011, 20:01:35
Bah, can't wait until Sunday

Spurs vs United  :D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 12-01-2011, 22:01:11
I like roy hodgson. He should have been given more time.

But still, I screamed when he bought Christian Poulsen for 10 million pounds. I mean.. SERIOUSLY?!?! wtf!

Fucking hate man city. Now they bought Edin Dzeko... Lets see... they got:
Dzeko, Tevez, Santa cruz, Adebayor, Shaun-Wright-Philips, Balotelli

And then the young talents Jo and my swedish love John Guidetti.
It's a disgrace! Why would anyone want to join their club?! eventually they're just gonna sit on the bench.
Adebayor is exciting, will be great fun if liverpool get their hands on him.

John Guidetti should leave ASAP! even though he's really good he will never play in their first time. I mean, Adebayor on the bench, guidetti is nothing compared to him (yet)

Juventus was going to sign Adebayor somehow.. i dont watch Premier League but, Adebayor is the guy that, when he scores a goal, doesnt Celebrate it ? :S

Arsenal just lost 1-0 against some small team, dunno its name, but i think thats quite a punch.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 12-01-2011, 23:01:39
What a wonderful game of Blackpool V Liverpool. I am so happy blackpool won.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 12-01-2011, 23:01:59
I'm happy for Blackpool but I feel so bad for Liverpool right now

 Such a classic team having such gigantic troubles

And how bad is Liverpool when the Blackpool defense (PL's worst statistically) looks good?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 13-01-2011, 00:01:25
You watch much football Moose? That was hardly a classic game, quite devoid of quality in all areas.

If we make a few decent signings this transfer window we can turn this season around to a respectable finish.

Realisation tonight was that far too many of the squad simply aren't good enough and need to be shipped out asap. Also, thought we missed Gerrard in the middle. Could really do with him back, particularly for the next game against Everton.

Fair play to Blackpool though, they're having a fantastic season and Ian Holloway is a great guy so best of luck to them  :)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 13-01-2011, 00:01:48
I like roy hodgson. He should have been given more time.

But still, I screamed when he bought Christian Poulsen for 10 million pounds. I mean.. SERIOUSLY?!?! wtf!

Fucking hate man city. Now they bought Edin Dzeko... Lets see... they got:
Dzeko, Tevez, Santa cruz, Adebayor, Shaun-Wright-Philips, Balotelli

And then the young talents Jo and my swedish love John Guidetti.
It's a disgrace! Why would anyone want to join their club?! eventually they're just gonna sit on the bench.
Adebayor is exciting, will be great fun if liverpool get their hands on him.

John Guidetti should leave ASAP! even though he's really good he will never play in their first time. I mean, Adebayor on the bench, guidetti is nothing compared to him (yet)

Juventus was going to sign Adebayor somehow.. i dont watch Premier League but, Adebayor is the guy that, when he scores a goal, doesnt Celebrate it ? :S

Arsenal just lost 1-0 against some small team, dunno its name, but i think thats quite a punch.

Lol Adebayor doesn't celebrate goals?

Check this out against his former club http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQvguzCi01U

What a classy player  :P
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 13-01-2011, 02:01:44
Well i dont know, as i said, i dont watch Premier League, just a few Everton Matches. I know theres a guy in PL that doesnt celebrate goals at all. And he is african.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: im_a_lazy_sod on 13-01-2011, 03:01:42
Lol he got a mega fine for that celebration as well hahahah

Well done to Blackpool - now I'm hoping we can pour more crap on L'pool when we visit them on Sunday  ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 13-01-2011, 03:01:59
Fair enough then.

As for most African players, I hate to stereotype but they seem to have the most flamboyant celebrations  ;D

Backflips and dancing seem to be the order of the day. As for this African player who doesn't celebrate, I dunno  ???

Yakubu isn't too lively with his. Benjani too.

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 13-01-2011, 06:01:11
Yah Chadol, I do. It was class in the way that Blackpool looked fluid and after their 2nd goal they dominated the play and liverpool looked like a league 2 team at times. Say what you will about having stevie G back, but something needs to be done about the team as a whole.

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 13-01-2011, 13:01:25
Yah Chadol, I do. It was class in the way that Blackpool looked fluid and after their 2nd goal they dominated the play and liverpool looked like a league 2 team at times. Say what you will about having stevie G back, but something needs to be done about the team as a whole.



I agree with you about the team as a whole, but that game won't exactly go down in the pages of history as a classic now will it? After Blackpool's second goal it became really scrappy and stagnant, hardly end to end stuff for 90 minutes. They kept the ball well but that is no great feat against this Liverpool side.

Besides, far better teams have lost to Blackpool this year so I am pleased for them. They are enjoying the golden first season most newly promoted team have. Next year will be a totally different story.

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 14-01-2011, 07:01:22
If Daglish can get the team together, they're in rough shape, torres is not in form. It's just bad news
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 14-01-2011, 13:01:43
Think come the end of the transfer window will be a better indication of how the rest of the season will go.

A few new key players will help of course, Torres simply isn't getting the service a top class striker needs. I feel sorry for him.

I'm really looking forward to the Tottenham - Man U game this Sunday pity I won't be able to watch it   :(
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 14-01-2011, 16:01:19
I might depending on when it's on, but I'm more excited for my gunners to play another london derby against west ham
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Smiles on 14-01-2011, 16:01:22
Just a few days and the season will be open again!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 14-01-2011, 16:01:41
So...

Newcastle's Andy Carroll seems to be heading for Tottenham, the odds have been lowered and Newcastle and Spurs are ready to pay the bill for him.

Anyhow, it's Friday night and I'm already nervous about Spurs game against Manchester United on Sunday

It's gonna be a long weekend
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 14-01-2011, 17:01:59
How many strikers does Redknapp need!!??

With Carroll coming in what do you think that means for Crouch? Both similar style players, good in the air, can hold it up etc. I can't see Crouch wanting to sit on the bench more than he does already.

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 14-01-2011, 17:01:12
Well, we got strikers but we don't have that goalscorer that the other top teams have. We got Pavlyuchenko, Defoe, Crouch and Kranjčar but we still need that striker that makes the difference.

Defoe is great but is not in his best form (yet) and Crouch is always Crouch but as above, we need that striker that makes the difference.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 14-01-2011, 17:01:15
Newcastle is going to suffer with the loss of caroll in my opinion...but I hope he helpes tottenham beat man utd...though unlikely
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 14-01-2011, 21:01:17
I don't think Carroll is the answer if you want a prolific goal scorer, particularly one that is proven at Premier League level. Pretty much like Crouch, goals here and there but can't guarantee you 20+ a season.

I really want to see Gareth Bale destroy Rafael who is probably one of the most average players I have seen play for Man United. He seems to be getting by purely on reputation and luck at the moment. If anyone can find him out as the liability he is it will be Bale.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 15-01-2011, 20:01:04
Arsenal had another convincing performance today against the Hammers. Also Man City had a crazy game against Wolves
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 15-01-2011, 22:01:34
Damn, Chelsea vs Wolves!

 Missed the game but the score, looks like an entertaining game.

 Tomorrow, 17.00 (Swedish time) - Spurs vs United

Nervous.

Very.

Nervous.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 16-01-2011, 18:01:27
I love canadians in australia. But god damn 'em for taking me to the casino, making me win 75 dollars and then taking me to a stripclub. I'm missing the game!!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 16-01-2011, 19:01:32
Bah, 0 - 0 between Spurs and United after 94 minutes

 Even though United played with one less player then Spurs during the second half, still Spurs didn't manage to break through the solid United defense.

 Liverpool - Everton ended in 2-2, good game!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 16-01-2011, 19:01:22
Ugh spurs kept just playing it forward and crouch was doing nobody any favours... I hate that they just dumped it down, I wanted to see more short passes on the outside of the box. Bale had a some amazing crosses in, but it was always just the albatross flailing around and no one else. Spurs were the better team, ugh wish they had won
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 16-01-2011, 20:01:51
United were very happy to sit back and let Spurs come at them, they're very hard to break down like that.

I thought Redknapp should have encouraged Spurs to allow United to get forward then hit them on the counter attack which is what they do best.

Bale was very quiet today and most of his deliveries were poor, again he is better on the counter were he can exploit the space behind the defence.

Still though I thought a draw was a fair reflection on the game, Rafael's been lucky not to have been sent off before this season with the type of shithouse challenges he does. I hope he gets more punishment for acting like a child when he was given his marching orders but as he plays for United it's unlikely  ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 19-01-2011, 07:01:46
Well I got excited today when Leicester brought the game back within 1, but sadly Man city was too together to let that happen.

Pumped for Leeds Arsenal tomorrow, let's do it gunners!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 19-01-2011, 07:01:33
Come on, Leeds!  ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 23-01-2011, 13:01:16
What a weekend

Newcastle gave Spurs a fight for their life, Villa's new recruit put City to the ground and Berbatov's show made Birmingham go home with 0 to 5
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Sgt.KAR98 on 23-01-2011, 18:01:51
Manchester United,CSKA Moscow,Fenerbahçe,Partizan,Corinthians,Olympiakos and Mazembe.The elite of football!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 23-01-2011, 18:01:36
Manchester United,CSKA Moscow,Fenerbahçe,Partizan,Corinthians,Olympiakos and Mazembe.The elite of football!

Purely for the exclusion of Barcelona (and the inclusion of Mazembe) this is a truly laughable list
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 23-01-2011, 19:01:41
What a bizarre list...

Chadoi, Daglish got you your win as I'm guessing you are a L'pool supporter eh?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 23-01-2011, 20:01:20
What a bizarre list...

Chadoi, Daglish got you your win as I'm guessing you are a L'pool supporter eh?

Oh yer, I'm still grinning over that performance!

31 passes before the 3rd goal shows a huge improvement in the set up of the team - with more attacking minded positions for the midfielders supporting Torres who seems to be born again under Dalglish.

Just hope we can keep that level till the end of the season.

Anyone else heard any juicy transfer rumours around the globe? Probably not gonna be any big ones till summer but you never know....
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 23-01-2011, 20:01:50
Sweden's second biggest newspaper has it's own blog about the silly season. It's awesome.

Well you would know about Luis Suarez and Ashley Young to liverpool.


The following are purely speculations and not much truth in most of them. but definitely some!

Arshavin may leave for chelsea this summer
AC Milan going for Chelseas Ivanovic
Spurs and Man U going for Lassana Diarra
Romelu Lukaku to every major club in europe
Tevez to Real

Here's an interesting one.
To solve the centre-half issue, Wenger plans on getting Jonathan Woodgate from Spurs.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Smiles on 23-01-2011, 21:01:57
Get your hands of Suarez. Hes ours!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 23-01-2011, 22:01:56
Suarez? That loser must retire from football like today.

Booh Juventus D:, cant beat Sampdoria then we're done, i mean, Quagliarella out for the rest of the season, and they bought Luca Toni, second match of this player and he grabs an injury, bullshit.

No Scudetto but please, go for CL!

Udinese 3 Inter 1, "best team" in the world? Fuck off Inter!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Smiles on 24-01-2011, 00:01:41
Oi..What? Who are you talking about? He played some amazing matches last season! He pretty much still drags his team with him. Alright, he might have shown ill spotmanship with the bite incident but..who cares :-[

Edit: OOOooooo WC?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 24-01-2011, 02:01:17
Are you from liverpool CHadoi?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: ebevan91 on 24-01-2011, 03:01:27
Soccer is so boring I honestly don't see how anyone can like it.

I prefer football (american)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 24-01-2011, 07:01:38
Soccer is so boring I honestly don't see how anyone can like it.

I prefer football (american)
Ok. Well then obviously you are the one with a problem, as it's the worlds most popular sport, by far.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 24-01-2011, 08:01:14
Soccer is so boring I honestly don't see how anyone can like it.

I prefer football (american)

Don't mention the word "Soccer" in this Thread -__-

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: im_a_lazy_sod on 24-01-2011, 09:01:38
You did  ;)

Aussie Rules is good - think gaelic football meets rugby on an oval pitch

Srsly though have tried getting in to gridiron but can't - rugby is growing on me but being on the west coast of oz means there is little or no exposure

Football is doing okay - Tim Cahill is a great ambasador for the sport

Speaking of which, the Asian cup is pretty enjoyable to watch right now - would like to see us win it :)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Thorondor123 on 24-01-2011, 12:01:50
Soccer is so boring I honestly don't see how anyone can like it.

I prefer football (american)
Have fun with your American rugby, this thread is about the real football.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 24-01-2011, 13:01:46
Are you from liverpool CHadoi?

Yep I am a scouser ;D It has its highs and lows.

Anyone else heard about David Luiz to Chelsea for £26m?

That would be an unbeatable defence if they bagged him, I've always rated him very highly.

Ebvan has tried to post in the FOOTBALL thread before but we just ingnored his trolling attempts. Maybe he shoud start a handegg thread if he wants to talk about it.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 24-01-2011, 13:01:26
oh yeah david luiz is great, and they really need him. Terry's nearing retirement and gets injured all the time.

I hope for suarez to liverpool, pool is my second team in the PL (after spurs), and both my brothers love 'em. PLus they do deserve to be among the top 5 at least.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 24-01-2011, 17:01:35
Last night...

I had 1 - 0 for Real Madrid

I had 2-1 for Villareal

I had 1-0 for Milan...

Then it was 875 times the bet I made, a lot of money.

What happens? My favorite Swedish player, ever, Zlatan goes and makes 2-0 in the 93rd minute...

No money, no funny.

That's life
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 24-01-2011, 17:01:08
Last night...

I had 1 - 0 for Real Madrid

I had 2-1 for Villareal

I had 1-0 for Milan...

Then it was 875 times the bet I made, a lot of money.

What happens? My favorite Swedish player, ever, Zlatan goes and makes 2-0 in the 93rd minute...

No money, no funny.

That's life
HAHAHAHAHAHHA oh god that's fucking epic :)

I gotta start betting again, can't wait for the next weekend!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 24-01-2011, 18:01:13
I made a bet today just to take my mind of the Zlatan issue

Bolton - Chelsea
0-0   0-1  0-2   1-2   2-2

A.Bilbao - Hercules
0-0  1-0  1-1  1-3

Maritimo - Sp.Lissa.
0-1  0-2  1-1  1-2   2-1

BRING ME THE MONEY!

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 24-01-2011, 18:01:45
I've got a fiver on 2-0 Bolton.

Come on Kevin Davies, get your big fat head on the end of a corner or two!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 31-01-2011, 14:01:46
Fucking exciting last day of silly season!

Listening to sky sports radio, following 2 live-blogs. Mainly following liverpool, a LOT happening around them.

Torres be or not to be in pool, 2 big players incoming (young? andy carroll?)
Serious rumours of a swede incoming to pool too (toivonen probably)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 31-01-2011, 17:01:07
Oh transfer talk, that's good, really good.

Because lest we never speak about what happened yesterday to Spurs...

Anyhow, I hope to see Toivonen step into the Premier League! Any of the top clubs would be amazing, we need a Swedish player in the PL, seems like a long time ago we had somebody like Toivonen in PL.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 31-01-2011, 18:01:52
Newcastle's Andy Carroll is heading for Liverpool

Torres to Chelsea confirmed?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 31-01-2011, 18:01:41
Nope, not confirmed yet. But very very close, especially as Carroll is confirmed. Ashley young is not far away either, just like Adams and maybe even warnock.

Maybe Torres will change his mind tonight, he want titles and doubts the new owners ambitions. He should start doubting his doubt.


And you're forgetting that we have Sebastian Larsson, Martin Olsson, Johan Elmander and Jonas Olsson in PL!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 31-01-2011, 19:01:18
And you're forgetting that we have Sebastian Larsson, Martin Olsson, Johan Elmander and Jonas Olsson in PL!

I'm not forgetting them, but I want a Swedish player in one of the top clubs! :D

Liverpool is going mad, seriously. If they can make that group of individuals to work as a team... CL spot without a doubt.

Come on you Spurs! Bring us a striker.

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 31-01-2011, 19:01:35
Forlan is seemingly close, or was 2 hours ago.

Toivonen isn't really good enough for any of the top clubs though :) give Martin Olsson 2-3 years and he will be among in one of 'em!


Apparently torres is just a medical from chelsea. Sucks so bad, Liverpool is my second team in PL, and I really like Torres. He won't fit in a blue shirt.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 31-01-2011, 20:01:20
Still talks with Forlan even though they denied our first bid?

Rossi seems real close
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 31-01-2011, 21:01:24
Screw Forlan.

He used to play in Independiente, i hate that club so much, just because its Racing Club main rival D:, so Crew Independiente-Screw Forlan too.

Plus he wasnt hte best WC player, Villa was (Another player i hate :D).
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 31-01-2011, 21:01:22
Harry Redknapp, Tottenham - "We found no one to spend our money on"

I think this is the moment that makes us lose this seasons CL spot for us considering what the other teams have done tonight and earlier
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 01-02-2011, 02:02:49
Devastated Torres has left us but no one player is bigger than Liverpool Football Club.

Ridiculous thing is he is leaving stating his desire to win trophies - well good luck doing that at Chelsea. If he went to Barcelona or Inter Milan I could accept that...... but Chelsea?

The club were the fans are GIVEN flags to wave during the game because they don't bring their own. The club that has a horrible glory hunting racist fan base who idolise thugs like John Terry who will be doing his best to get into Olalla the moment Torres' back is turned.

He won't be idolised there like he was at Liverpool. Never.

I really hope for Liverpool (and Rawhide's) sake that Tottenham and Man City beat them to 4th spot. Try winning the Champions League when your not even in it Fernando  >:(

Really took the shine off signing Suarez and Carroll (£35 million purely because he is English = Ridiculous!)

Wish them both the best of luck though and hopefully they will remain more loyal than a certain ex Kop Idol
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 01-02-2011, 02:02:39
I hope carroll can make up for torres, torres has been sucking, so L'pool could use the boost. i hope they cream chelsea in the upcoming fixture. I fucking hate chelsea so I'll be cheering for their demise.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Smiles on 01-02-2011, 14:02:04
Who cares, give me suarez back!@
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 01-02-2011, 16:02:18
Well, still if this transfer window wasn't what Spurs fans wanted, nobody can deny it sure as hell was full of entertainment!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 01-02-2011, 21:02:18
Lmao Liverpool fans are burning Torres pictures :D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 01-02-2011, 22:02:54
Lmao Liverpool fans are burning Torres pictures :D

They aren't fans, they are morons.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 05-02-2011, 18:02:13
Arsenal up 4-0 at half... only to tie. Why oh why
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: sn00x on 05-02-2011, 19:02:28
Lmao Liverpool fans are burning Torres pictures :D

They aren't fans, they are morons.

more like seriously retarded people with the lack of self respect
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 05-02-2011, 19:02:36
Lmao Liverpool fans are burning Torres pictures :D

They aren't fans, they are morons.

more like seriously retarded people with the lack of self respect

Either way, shirt burners are low lifes

By the way some AMAZING games in the EPL today!

Newcastle - Arsenal takes the pick though. 4- 0 down after the first half, Newcastle managed to get it back to 4-4 thanks to an Arsenal red card. Really exciting game.

Think there has been over 40 goals scored in todays games. Match of the Day is certainly a must watch tonight!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 05-02-2011, 21:02:29
Well I want to stab myself for the arsenal game....I am so happy Man Utd didn't take advantage and the worst team in the league destroyer their unbeaten streak!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 05-02-2011, 21:02:42
Go Juve Go!

Cagliari 0 - Juve 1 so far, now that Buffon is back :D

Atleast, i would die to see the Bianconeri in Cheampions League once again, its been a long time since i seen a GOOD CL with Juve in it.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Eglaerinion on 05-02-2011, 22:02:54
Lmao Liverpool fans are burning Torres pictures :D

They aren't fans, they are morons.

more like seriously retarded people with the lack of self respect

Either way, shirt burners are low lifes

By the way some AMAZING games in the EPL today!

Newcastle - Arsenal takes the pick though. 4- 0 down after the first half, Newcastle managed to get it back to 4-4 thanks to an Arsenal red card. Really exciting game.

Think there has been over 40 goals scored in todays games. Match of the Day is certainly a must watch tonight!
Thought the referees were a joke over here. In the premier league they are much worse. They get penalties for barely anything at all. Leg breaking tackle is a ok, pushing someone is a red card.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 06-02-2011, 00:02:36
Good Job Juventus!

1-3 Yes!!! MATRI x2 and Luca TONI!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: sn00x on 06-02-2011, 02:02:27
Lmao Liverpool fans are burning Torres pictures :D

They aren't fans, they are morons.

more like seriously retarded people with the lack of self respect

Either way, shirt burners are low lifes

By the way some AMAZING games in the EPL today!

Newcastle - Arsenal takes the pick though. 4- 0 down after the first half, Newcastle managed to get it back to 4-4 thanks to an Arsenal red card. Really exciting game.

Think there has been over 40 goals scored in todays games. Match of the Day is certainly a must watch tonight!
Thought the referees were a joke over here. In the premier league they are much worse. They get penalties for barely anything at all. Leg breaking tackle is a ok, pushing someone is a red card.

its copletly STRUPID! idcton kno even why poeple carebaout this port its ... strupid
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 06-02-2011, 12:02:38
So, yesterdays games.

I'm still drunk because of all the goals

Come on you Spurs!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 06-02-2011, 17:02:41
LET'S DO THIS L'POOL!!!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 06-02-2011, 17:02:25
watching the game (of course), nice little hit torres got from Agger :) Go pool! Cut torres in half!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 06-02-2011, 18:02:16
Nice meireles!!!

But damn it!

I was about to bet 15€ on pool winning with 1-0, but I got some "connection problems" and skipped it, as dinner was ready. When I come back to the computer, it's 1-0.
The odds were 8.1! I would have won 121€!


Wonder what torres is saying now!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 06-02-2011, 19:02:45
Win!  ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 06-02-2011, 19:02:30
Damn good win!

Liverpool is back and Chelsea is stuck on 44p with Tottenham right behind them

Awesome
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 06-02-2011, 20:02:29
yeah this is fucking awesome, chelsea on its way down again, pool has made an amazing recovery; from like 18th place to 6th place. They're back!
And of course, spurs is right behind the top 4! god i lvoe football
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 06-02-2011, 20:02:54
Abosolutely made up with that win!

Every man played his part in that win today, a proper team performance.

Guess the grass ain't always greener on the other side, eh Fernando  ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 06-02-2011, 22:02:15
Yay Maxi Rodriguez Team!

i mean Liverpool D:
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 06-02-2011, 23:02:37
Maxi rodriguez missed open goal :)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 06-02-2011, 23:02:00
Yeah but he's still a badass player.

nd oh God, Inter 5 - Roma 3 D:

I don't like this, Inter's next Rival is Juventus!

Derby della Italia! The two Italian Giants!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: im_a_lazy_sod on 07-02-2011, 09:02:56
Pretty happy with 5-3 win over Blackpool  8)

The FA cup tie may seem more in our reach than we once though - especially if King Kenny's boys can beat them combined with our decent record at the bridge  ;D

First we have Bolton though

Great weekend for PL games - enjoyed the Chelsea/Liverpool game as well

lol @ el nino
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: THeTA0123 on 09-02-2011, 20:02:18
belgium vs finland today


we're boned
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 09-02-2011, 23:02:29
Haha, and they still say Cristiano Ronaldo is better than messi :/

Argentina 2 Portugal 1

And im shocked, Germany couldnt beat Italy D:, i mean Italy kinda sucks, they have good Defenders like Chiellini and Bonucci, then Aquilani and maybe Borriello, but i still love you Azurri!

Good game by Benzema too, with something we seen in the Pathetic WC Final, Karate :D

And Superb goal by Sneijder, imo he should have been nominated for the Ballon d'or' instead of Xavi..
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Thorondor123 on 12-02-2011, 15:02:38
WHAT A GOAL!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 12-02-2011, 15:02:40
WHAT A GOAL!
I missed a tiny bit of this match and it was during this little amount of time Rooney happened.

Typical. Damn horses broke lose outside so me and my dad had to run out and grab them!

Our horses seem to be City fans

Anyhow, today is just a minor football day. Away game for Spurs against Sunderland. I doubt we'll win, we got so many injured players (Spurs, the only team with one list of injured players and one list with players who are going into surgery or coming out of it).

But on Tuesday...    Champions League

AC Milan vs Tottenham

No wait, what I meant to say was: Zlatan vs Tottenham  ;D

My favorite football player versus my favorite team.

<o>


Other then that, I'm going to London in April, Tottenham vs Stoke!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 12-02-2011, 15:02:51
WHAT A GOAL!
Thank God for Internet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkLA03VGNmU
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 12-02-2011, 16:02:14
Thanks rawhide! missed it too, glad I got to see it before youtube takes it down.

That's an amazing goal. Glad united won, as little as I like them I do hate city more.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 12-02-2011, 23:02:03
Niko Kranjcar saves Tottenham once again, two weeks in a row!

 Really nice to see Tottenham come to Sunderland and win with this team, the players are no B players but still it's a squad full of players who normally ain't in the 11 men squad

 Anyhow, good win and a relief. AC Milan on Tuesday.

AC Milan killed Parma today, 4-0...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 12-02-2011, 23:02:52
Yeah was pretty pessimistic, never fought they'd beat sunderland right now. Glad they proved me wrong!
Sad about kranjcar, such a quality player but there is no-ones place he could take. And evern more competition with pienaar.

Seriously, on paper spurs has got the best team in the premier league.

Can't wait for tuesday!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 13-02-2011, 23:02:39
Fuck yeah you fucking Internazionale bastards!

Gotta love matri :D

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: ebevan91 on 15-02-2011, 01:02:59
Question for you soccer dudes, why do the players act like they get shot on the field? I don't really watch soccer but when I see highlights on ESPN they randomly fall on the ground.

And one day I saw a soccer player get yelled at by an opposing player and the player randomly grabbed his face and fell down on the ground.

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 15-02-2011, 01:02:15
Soccer?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 15-02-2011, 05:02:20
How do people not understand that that doesn't happen that much in good leagues
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: sheikyerbouti on 15-02-2011, 06:02:00
 because the TV said so Moose  :P

 the silly slap fights in European football are almost as humourous as watching Basketball players go after each other.

 Vancouver is getting a MLS team this year so I will start paying more attention to soccer but give me the NHL anyday.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 15-02-2011, 06:02:18
Speaking of basketball... I don't watch it, but I did the other day...and people who say soccer is just diving. Wtf? Anytime a bball player drives the lane and gets bumped he puts his hands up and just lays out on the court and draws fouls. Pretty much everytime a player goes in for a basket, there is a foul. It's way worse than soccer...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 15-02-2011, 20:02:09
AC Milan vs Tottenham

I'm so nervous I'm about to pass out...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Smiles on 15-02-2011, 21:02:10
Fucking stupid cunts are controlling our telivision in the netherlands. Fuckers wont broadcast an awsome CHAMPIONS LEAGUE MATCH. Instead we get some idiot talking and talking and talking bout the match and only showing the highlights.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 15-02-2011, 21:02:54
www.liveonlinefooty.com

If you can sign up to that in your country you won't have to miss another game
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 15-02-2011, 23:02:38
AC Milan vs Tottenham

I'm so nervous I'm about to pass out...
Yep, I'm dying but I'm happy now

 What a night, what a classic CL night
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 16-02-2011, 00:02:05
What an amazing game. now THAT's entertaining football, how i've missed it!

So happy right now :)
Gomes was amazing, Lennon did a great job, Gallas and Dawson as well. Talk about team effort!


Oh god, my heart stopped for a second when I saw Zlatans beautiful (rooney class?) bicycleta go in. 50% of the people at the pub (O'learys) cheered, the rest (me included) got sad. Until, in all the screaming I see a surprised and disappointed look on Zlatan's face; IT'S FUCKING OFFSIDE!

I'm happy

But sad, that Valencia only got a tie. I had bet on Spurs winning (the odds were really high) and valencia to win. Now I don't get anything from that bet :(



EDIT: And SERIOUSLY :) You got to fucking love Gattuso :D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 16-02-2011, 00:02:50
I had everything right on the CL games and lost on fucking Newcastle WTF!

 Anyhow, Ted. Yeah, real team effort.

 Milan gotta do one hell of a job if they are gonna beat Spurs on White Hart Lane in Mars...

 
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 16-02-2011, 00:02:07
Absolutely, with Bale back and probably King as well (right?) it will be tough for them, if not impossible. They should have taken this chance and won with at least 2 goals, to get ahead.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 16-02-2011, 15:02:09
Haha, Milan, bunch of losers ^^

Or just Gattusso is the loser? :o
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Smiles on 16-02-2011, 17:02:51
One nasty tackle!! Darn man i nearly screamed OUCH when it happened!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: ebevan91 on 16-02-2011, 20:02:10
Speaking of basketball... I don't watch it, but I did the other day...and people who say soccer is just diving. Wtf? Anytime a bball player drives the lane and gets bumped he puts his hands up and just lays out on the court and draws fouls. Pretty much everytime a player goes in for a basket, there is a foul. It's way worse than soccer...

Because you get to shoot free throws if it's a shooting foul or if you're over the foul limit. Points are points, man.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: NTH on 16-02-2011, 20:02:32
What an amazing game. now THAT's entertaining football, how i've missed it!

So happy right now :)
Gomes was amazing, Lennon did a great job, Gallas and Dawson as well. Talk about team effort!


Oh god, my heart stopped for a second when I saw Zlatans beautiful (rooney class?) bicycleta go in. 50% of the people at the pub (O'learys) cheered, the rest (me included) got sad. Until, in all the screaming I see a surprised and disappointed look on Zlatan's face; IT'S FUCKING OFFSIDE!

I'm happy

But sad, that Valencia only got a tie. I had bet on Spurs winning (the odds were really high) and valencia to win. Now I don't get anything from that bet :(



EDIT: And SERIOUSLY :) You got to fucking love Gattuso :D

Yeah I really love this guy ::)

(http://media.nu.nl/m/m1fzxa7aekbw_700.jpg)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 16-02-2011, 21:02:46
Well, It is fun to watch gattuso, i had some laughs last night :)

Watching arsenal - barcelona.

25th minute, David Villa scores.
But really, I get the shivers when watching arsenals offence, so damn impressive. too bad their defence can't hold back barcelona.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 16-02-2011, 22:02:12
What the fuck Barcelona?

I mean

WHAT THE FUCK?

Bad mistake replacing Villa with Keita, terrible mistake. Mascherano should have been in from the very first minute, the two Arsenal Goals were thanks to Valdes.

Dissapointing match, i wanted Barça to win because i hate Arsenal, and i knew Arshavin would score, i knew it D:

But, considering Arsenal was playing in their Homeground, well i would expect a Barça win in their home.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 16-02-2011, 22:02:52
I wanted Arsenal to win because I at this moment hate Barcelona more than any other team in the whole world (except Manchester City). And because I kinda like arsenal, a bit.

Amazing game, CL is starting out great. 2 amazing games (zlatan-spurs, arsenal-barca). Arsenals offence is just to die for
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Eglaerinion on 16-02-2011, 23:02:09
Barca is starting to become  a bit arrogant. Passing the ball around not to score but to humiliate the opponent. Deserved win by Arsenal.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 16-02-2011, 23:02:20
Barca is starting to become  a bit arrogant. Passing the ball around not to score but to humiliate the opponent. Deserved win by Arsenal.

I believe the term you are looking for is 'smash and grab'. No way Arsenal deserved the win.

Barca totally dominated the game and I fully expect them to walk over Arsenal at the Nou Camp. The way the English media are going on about it, you would have thought Arsenal had given them a lesson. Totally untrue.

If you can't appreciate Barca's passing and movement then maybe football isn't for you. Or maybe Stoke City would be a better team to support.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 17-02-2011, 00:02:25
Barca is starting to become  a bit arrogant. Passing the ball around not to score but to humiliate the opponent. Deserved win by Arsenal.

Thats the most effective tactic i seen in football for a long long time.

It just confuses the oponent, remember back in Barça v Fake Madrid? Madrid players were crazy because everyone in Barcelona touched the ball, even the GK!

They're passing the ball, trying to create a gap and exploit it. Boom, thats how Barça can win 8-0 sometimes.

Barça is the most succesfull team so far, its a great team with excellent players. Many people said when Ibra left Barça, Madrid will dominate. Well, no. Barça is dominating, they had bad luck this match and well, Barcelona v Arsenal in Camp Nou will be without doubt, an interesting match.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 17-02-2011, 00:02:09
Erhm, no. Barca definitely didn't butcher Arsenal. I'd say it was 55/45, in favor of barca.

I used to love barcelona, 2 years ago. Real Madrid was the worst team I could think about. That has all changed, I hate Barcelona with a passion, and here's why:

First and foremost;
Watch for example Barcelona vs Racing Santander, or any team below the top 5 in spain. That's NOT entertaining football. Possession is 65/35 and they win with 4-0. The other team never even stands a chance. No suspense at all. In that aspect, Barcelona is the most boring team to watch, I'd much rather watch Dundee United against Hearts in scotland.

Second
Barcelona is the best club in the world. I'd have to agree on that, but it comes at a cost.
I'm a passionate football fan, at the moment I live and breathe football. But Barcelona has a false reputation of being humble and nice. Ask anyone who doesn't know SQUAT about football, can you guess what their favourite team is? Barcelona. then you ask them "who plays in barcelona?" they say "Messi", but that's all they know, they have NO idea about anything except that "barcelona is the best team, messi best player". As a football fan I find that a bit offensive.

Third
Their attitude. Yes they are the best at the moment, but there is a limit as to how superior you can act.
Excibit A; Fabregas. Sure you may say that "every team plays dirty when it comes to transfer", but I can never imagine anyone being this dirty. All the spanish players call out to him "He should play here", and putting words in his mouth by saying "This is his dreamclub, he wants to play here". They are so fucking disrespectful towards the Arsenal fans.
Just the day before yesterday, do you know what Barcelonas former president (who quit this summer) said? He said that "It's not fair that Arsenal won't let fabregas go. This is his home, he belongs here. It's only fair that we get him". WHAT THE FUCK is up with that? Messi, where's he from? I Think Barcelona should give David Villa back to valencia (who in turn should give him back to Sporting Gijon. Football doesn't work that way!
I admire Wenger though, giving a clear No to them.

Fourth
As I'm swedish; Zlatan. He plays really good, but then they push him away (Probably Zlatan who pushed Barca away though). After only a year they sell him for half the price. Now he probably wanted to leave, but they handled it all so bad.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Eglaerinion on 17-02-2011, 15:02:36
Barca is starting to become  a bit arrogant. Passing the ball around not to score but to humiliate the opponent. Deserved win by Arsenal.

I believe the term you are looking for is 'smash and grab'. No way Arsenal deserved the win.

Barca totally dominated the game and I fully expect them to walk over Arsenal at the Nou Camp. The way the English media are going on about it, you would have thought Arsenal had given them a lesson. Totally untrue.

If you can't appreciate Barca's passing and movement then maybe football isn't for you. Or maybe Stoke City would be a better team to support.
No there is a clear difference between passing the ball around on your own side of the pitch simply to show off and passing the ball around to create chances. barca was not exciting to watch at all. I'd rather see a team with a purpose and trying to score a goal instead of trying to put the opponent to sleep.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Marder on 17-02-2011, 16:02:03
Barca is starting to become  a bit arrogant. Passing the ball around not to score but to humiliate the opponent. Deserved win by Arsenal.
With that way of playing that you call "arrogant" Barça has won: 1 Champions,2 Ligas,1 Copa del Rey,1 Fifa World Cup for clubs and others super cups. Spain has the Eurocup and is the World Champion. So long live to that "arrogant" way of playing!!! ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Marder on 17-02-2011, 16:02:58
Third
Their attitude. Yes they are the best at the moment, but there is a limit as to how superior you can act.
Excibit A; Fabregas. Sure you may say that "every team plays dirty when it comes to transfer", but I can never imagine anyone being this dirty. All the spanish players call out to him "He should play here", and putting words in his mouth by saying "This is his dreamclub, he wants to play here". They are so fucking disrespectful towards the Arsenal fans.
Just the day before yesterday, do you know what Barcelonas former president (who quit this summer) said? He said that "It's not fair that Arsenal won't let fabregas go. This is his home, he belongs here. It's only fair that we get him". WHAT THE FUCK is up with that? Messi, where's he from? I Think Barcelona should give David Villa back to valencia (who in turn should give him back to Sporting Gijon. Football doesn't work that way!
I admire Wenger though, giving a clear No to them.

Do you know what FC Barcelona fans (and club) fears the most? Fabregas with Real Madrid shirt

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 17-02-2011, 16:02:18
With that way of playing that you call "arrogant" Barça has won: 1 Champions,2 Ligas,1 Copa del Rey,1 Fifa World Cup for clubs and others super cups. Spain has the Eurocup and is the World Champion. So long live to that "arrogant" way of playing!!! ;D
So what? Winning =/= entertaining football.

Do you know what FC Barcelona fans (and club) fears the most? Fabregas with Real Madrid shirt
yeah? is this a response to my post? I don't know how to reply to this.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Smiles on 17-02-2011, 16:02:31
What ever, when Barca was passing the ball around without loosing it, maaan i loved it! so beautifull. I really enjoyed the match :)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 17-02-2011, 18:02:10
What ever, when Barca was passing the ball around without loosing it, maaan i loved it! so beautifull. I really enjoyed the match :)

At least someone else appreciates the beauty of Barca's dominance of possession.

It's not showing off and the majority of it takes place in the opponents half so again, if you don't like passing of the ball maybe football is the wrong sport for you.

I would kill for my team to be able to pass the ball around like they do, it's so effortless they make it look easy.

Football isn't all about throwing ball after ball into the box in an attempt to score. The best teams deny the opposition the ball through possession and when the time is right they strike. Patience is the key and nobody does it better than Barcelona.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 17-02-2011, 19:02:11
Football isn't all about throwing ball after ball into the box in an attempt to score. The best teams deny the opposition the ball through possession and when the time is right they strike. Patience is the key and nobody does it better than Barcelona.
Well, no it's not. But i'm not arguing against the way they play, it's incredibly effective. And of course I would love it if my team could play like that.
But that's that what i'm arguing against. I'm saying that such complete dominance over the opposing team is no fun to watch. There is absolutely no suspense. The opposing team never stands a chance.

(this does obviously not apply to arsenal, real madrid or any of the top teams. But take barca against any middle-team in spain for example)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Marder on 17-02-2011, 19:02:22
So what? Winning =/= entertaining football.

So what? Look i say this beacuse here in Spain we have at least 12 teams in 1st div. which plays "for not to lose" (I don't know how to say it better in english). My point is, i'm sick of seeing that kind of teams (cowards),so FCB way of play is fresh air and delicious (even If they rape my team,RCD Mallorca with annoying possession)

yeah? is this a response to my post? I don't know how to reply to this.

Oh yeah, it's information and can explain in part that Barça attitude (I'm agree with you,sometimes FCB has been disrespectful). And why so rude? I believe that I am not lying...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 19-02-2011, 02:02:05
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First and foremost;
Watch for example Barcelona vs Racing Santander, or any team below the top 5 in spain. That's NOT entertaining football. Possession is 65/35 and they win with 4-0. The other team never even stands a chance. No suspense at all. In that aspect, Barcelona is the most boring team to watch, I'd much rather watch Dundee United against Hearts in scotland.

Lies, watching Barça raping a inferior team is fun and entertaining. Balanced matches are good anyways, but watching barça move the ball around the field is not bad at all. Feel its boring? well i feel all Premier League matches are boring, so i dont watch them. Dont watch barcelona teams, nobody is forcing you anyways ;)

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Second
Barcelona is the best club in the world. I'd have to agree on that, but it comes at a cost.
I'm a passionate football fan, at the moment I live and breathe football. But Barcelona has a false reputation of being humble and nice. Ask anyone who doesn't know SQUAT about football, can you guess what their favourite team is? Barcelona. then you ask them "who plays in barcelona?" they say "Messi", but that's all they know, they have NO idea about anything except that "barcelona is the best team, messi best player". As a football fan I find that a bit offensive.

Bah, and its true. Barça is the best team atm, Messi the best player, or one of the most effective players at this moment. And whats the point of that? wheres Barça fault in all of this? you're talking about people who doesn't know squat about football and suddenly its Barça fault for beign a winner and having Messi in their squad? :|


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Just the day before yesterday, do you know what Barcelonas former president (who quit this summer) said? He said that "It's not fair that Arsenal won't let fabregas go. This is his home, he belongs here. It's only fair that we get him". WHAT THE FUCK is up with that? Messi, where's he from? I Think Barcelona should give David Villa back to valencia (who in turn should give him back to Sporting Gijon. Football doesn't work that way!
I admire Wenger though, giving a clear No to them.

May i ask for a Source?

About dirty teams, lets not mention Real Madrid. Robben, Van der Vaart and Raul (To name a few). Idols for RM, what happend to them? Robben said he will never return, Van der Vaart got sold, Raul a fucking RM and Spain STAR got sold to, Schalke 04? WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?! and how about Benzema? Poor lad sitting doing nothing, so much potential wasted in a bench...

I have to agree Spaniards are kinda dirty when it comes to football, especially their National Team.

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Marder on 19-02-2011, 13:02:39
I have to agree Spaniards are kinda dirty when it comes to football, especially their National Team.

ummm why?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 19-02-2011, 18:02:07
Re-Watch the WC Final and you'll see.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 19-02-2011, 19:02:19
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I have to agree Spaniards are kinda dirty when it comes to football, especially their National Team.[/b]



That's rich coming from a South American
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Marder on 19-02-2011, 20:02:55
Re-Watch the WC Final and you'll see.
from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_FIFA_World_Cup_Final
"Johan Cruyff publicly criticised the Dutch team in El Periódico de Catalunya for having played "in a very dirty fashion", describing their contribution to the final as "ugly", "vulgar" and "anti-football". He added that the Dutch should have had two players sent off early in the match, and criticised referee Howard Webb for failing to dismiss them.The Associated Press was of the opinion that the Dutch had "turned far too often to dirty tactics".

(http://thumbnails26.imagebam.com/12025/f49ca4120243859.jpg) (http://www.imagebam.com/image/f49ca4120243859)
Shame on you Xabi Alonso, you are so dirty!!
No seriously, I think you should re-watch the WC final

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Eglaerinion on 19-02-2011, 20:02:43
Re-Watch the WC Final and you'll see.
from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_FIFA_World_Cup_Final
"Johan Cruyff publicly criticised the Dutch team in El Periódico de Catalunya for having played "in a very dirty fashion", describing their contribution to the final as "ugly", "vulgar" and "anti-football". He added that the Dutch should have had two players sent off early in the match, and criticised referee Howard Webb for failing to dismiss them.The Associated Press was of the opinion that the Dutch had "turned far too often to dirty tactics".

(http://thumbnails26.imagebam.com/12025/f49ca4120243859.jpg) (http://www.imagebam.com/image/f49ca4120243859)
Shame on you Xabi Alonso, you are so dirty!!
No seriously, I think you should re-watch the WC final


No he's right. That was a really nasty kick by de Jong but the constant diving and asking for cards won't win you any popularity contests. And nice story by a Spanish newspaper lol.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Marder on 19-02-2011, 20:02:48
No he's right. That was a really nasty kick by de Jong but the constant diving and asking for cards won't win you any popularity contests. And nice story by a Spanish newspaper lol.
I'm agree but the referee had to put respect,and he didn't do it (as consequence of that dirty play and constant complaints to the referees). I know it's not easy to arbitrate a WC final but H.Webb arbitrated horribly (for both sides).
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 19-02-2011, 22:02:43
Remind me when i said Spain played more dirty than the Netherlands.

Okay time to win Juve! tomorrow they'll be facing Lecce, i say 4-0
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 20-02-2011, 11:02:08
Chelsea out of the FA Cup and Crawley Town almost got 1-1 against United? What the hell did I miss!

 Anyhow, I'm glad Spurs got sacked from the FA Cup this year. It makes us able to focus more on that 4th spot so we can go to CL next year as well and also focus on the current CL

 I swear to God, if we knock out Zlatan and his Milan in Mars...

No words can describe
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Marder on 20-02-2011, 17:02:48
Remind me when i said Spain played more dirty than the Netherlands.

Okay time to win Juve! tomorrow they'll be facing Lecce, i say 4-0
Then why you said that Spain plays dirty? At least you could post some source wich proves it.
Well at least we support the same italian team. Forza Juve!. RCD Mallorca plays on monday...damm TV rights!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 20-02-2011, 21:02:03
What the fuck juventus just lost 2-0 against a small small team..

FUCK YOU CALCIOPOLI FUCK YOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUU
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 20-02-2011, 22:02:48
Claudio Ranieri is leaving Roma today because of the 3-0 lead that turned into 3-4 loss against Genoa

Messi once again saves Barca from a draw with a 2-1 win over Bilbao

Arsenal got a draw against Leyton Orient after Leyton did a great goal in the 86th minute

 
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 22-02-2011, 19:02:22
Are you guys ready for tonight?

FC Copenhagen vs Chelsea (Champions League)
Lyon vs Real Madrid (Champions League)

Blackpool vs Tottenham (Premier League)



 I'm so hoping for Copenhagen against Chelsea, they sure can make it!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Eglaerinion on 22-02-2011, 19:02:01
Are you guys ready for tonight?

FC Copenhagen vs Chelsea (Champions League)
Lyon vs Real Madrid (Champions League)

Blackpool vs Tottenham (Premier League)



 I'm so hoping for Copenhagen against Chelsea, they sure can make it!
Ugly duckling round.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 22-02-2011, 20:02:30
Less then 15 minutes left until start

 I'm really nervous about Spurs vs Blackpool, if we win we climb up 3 points to 50 and we are in that case ahead of Manchester City and 3 points away from Arsenal.

If we are gonna break away from the rest, this is the game.

 Anyhow, bets are placed. The beer is cold.

 Bring it!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 22-02-2011, 23:02:41
God damnit Fake Madrid

GOD DAMNIT!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 23-02-2011, 18:02:38
Man, Copenhagen did not have a chance last night against Chelsea...

 Too bad, we need more Nordic countries in the Champions League.

And Blackpool vs Tottenham...

Don't get me started, I know.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Ciupita on 24-02-2011, 21:02:08
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNgNy5IbwOc i lold
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Thorondor123 on 24-02-2011, 21:02:07
That is just...

Oh my.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 24-02-2011, 22:02:49
Dammit, I can't find the video of that Italian commentator from the AC Milan/Tottenham game who starts to cry and scream when Zlatans goal got called off

I blame Berlusconi
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 01-03-2011, 20:03:23
Shit bro, if Moggi is right, then Milan will pwn Juve 1.000.000.000 - 0, damn fixed matches. DAMN FIXED MATCHES.

Yes, Juventus-Milan March 05, would be awesome to see Milan getting crushed by Del Piero, last time iirc Juve won 2-0 but juve is bad, really bad. 0-2 against Lecce, 0-2 against Bologna, what the fuck?

What would happen if Udinese plays against Juve? If Palermo (currently better than Juve :/) went down 0-7, juve will go down 0-10.

Oooh mighty Gigi Buffon, Pinturicchio, Chiello and other Juventus fans, kick Zlatan's money ass and Robinho, an idiot so kick his ass too!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 05-03-2011, 22:03:51
Geez, look at AC Milan. Even though they are not having a good day they still manage to get a 0-1 win over Juventus.

 Stuff like that really shows how good your team is

Zlatan's pass to Robinho that led to Gattusso's goal, 10 out of 10.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 06-03-2011, 03:03:37
didn't see it... but they still hardly stand a chance against spurs! not on white heart line, and not with bale and vdv back!

I seriously can't wait for this weeks CL games!

And even better, Allsvenskan (swedish league) is less than a month away! start off with a derby against Djurgården. Drömmar av guld!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 06-03-2011, 09:03:54
Yeah, Wednesday is gonna be nervous.

Tottenham Hotspurs vs AC Milan


 But today is also nervous, two games that are really important

1) Liverpool vs Manchester United
- Since Arsenal got 0-0 against Sunderland yesterday so United got a perfect chance to add their lead to 6p

2) Wolverhampton - Tottenham
- After Spurs 3-1 loss against Blackpool, Spurs lost a perfect moment to pass Chelsea and also get a third spot shared with Manchester City.

Tottenham must win this game to have a serious shot at taking that 4th spot for the next seasons CL games
 
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 06-03-2011, 19:03:51
Wolves vs Tottenham is done and it ended with a draw, 3-3

 Interesting score, more interesting is that behind Spurs goals was Defoe the first two and Pavlyuchenko the last one. Defoe haven't made a single goal for quite some time is now back!

Anyhow, 3 points was what Tottenham needed and we got 1, now we have the same score as Chelsea stuck at 4th place...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 06-03-2011, 19:03:13
damn it... really needed that win.

But a great relief to see defoe back! sure hope he can keep this scoring up now. we all know what he is capable of!

Very interesting to see liverpool beating united! Kenny Daglish was really what pool needed. Amazing foreplay by Suarez at the first goal.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 08-03-2011, 03:03:50
the next couple of days will be great.

Barcelona-Arsenal, Schalke-Valencia, Tottenham-Milan, Shaktar Donetsk-Roma.

odds were pretty good so I put what I have left on my betting-account on a victory for spurs and that shaktar will proceed to the next round.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 08-03-2011, 18:03:05
Still, I think Spurs will make at least 4th place this year...

 Can't wait for tomorrows game, Spurs vs Milan.

Already nervous as shit...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 08-03-2011, 18:03:01
yeah me too, chelsea's back on track though (kinda). But then again, these last 2 goals for defoe can do wonders for him, and slowly but steadily our injured players are coming back. 4th place is ours! (biggest  threat is liverpool imo)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 08-03-2011, 19:03:50
COME ON GUNNNNNEEEEEERRRRSSSS!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 08-03-2011, 21:03:12
yeah me too, chelsea's back on track though (kinda). But then again, these last 2 goals for defoe can do wonders for him, and slowly but steadily our injured players are coming back. 4th place is ours! (biggest  threat is liverpool imo)
Seriously, I almost started crying when Defoe made those goals.

 It was like he was resurrected
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Thorondor123 on 08-03-2011, 21:03:04
The ruling Finnish champion club HJK won the national team of Färöese islands 3 to 1 in a match played in Spain.

What.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 08-03-2011, 21:03:23
The ruling Finnish champion club HJK won the national team of Färöese islands 3 to 1 in a match played in Spain.

What.
This post makes no sense!

 Anyhow, Barcelona vs Arsenal, now 1-0 second half coming up in a few minutes

I feel bad for Arsenal, they had a great game last time around but Barcelona is just too good.

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Eglaerinion on 08-03-2011, 22:03:51
What a joke. Barcelona with 12 against 10.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: SiCaRiO on 08-03-2011, 22:03:07
eat it arsenal
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: MaJ.P.Bouras on 08-03-2011, 22:03:47
Football is a game played by 22 with 3 refs and is won by Barcelona...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 08-03-2011, 22:03:16
Geez, I don't even like Arsenal but I was hoping for them kicking Barcelona out of CL

 Damn you, Bendtner!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: SiCaRiO on 08-03-2011, 22:03:21
messi is OP
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 09-03-2011, 00:03:42
THIS IS THE FUCKING CHAMPIONS LEAGUE, NOT AMATEUR FOOTBALL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj089KMBGWA

The referee was a FUCKIGN DISGRACE.

No way that van Persie should get a red card in that situation, on camp nou!
one second, ONE SECOND after the linesman has blown his whistle for offside he takes a shot, and is shown off the field. How the hell is he supposed to react that quickly? He didn't hear the whistle AND look at it, and you'll see that after he missed his shot he got disappointed that he missed it.

now, i don't like arsenal as much as I hate barcelona. But this was a worthless effort by the referee.


AGAIN. Anyone who watched this game, I dare you to say that it was a fun game to watch. Barcelona are to fucking good, efter the 2-1 goal arsenal never even touches the ball! That's no fuckign competition!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: SiCaRiO on 09-03-2011, 01:03:02
it was a fun game to watch







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Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 09-03-2011, 19:03:43
Tottenham vs AC Milan (aka Zlatan) tonight!

  Anyhow, how things go tonight, I'm really proud of Spurs. They have made such an amazing journey. From that 4th place in 2009/2010 season, the CL playoff and then winning their group in CL and now we are here.

 After a 0-1 win over Milan two weeks ago Spurs got a perfect situation to win and advance.

 Come on you Spurs!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 09-03-2011, 22:03:52
So, Zlatans long dream of winning the Champions League is once again, for the 9th time crushed

 This time, by Tottenham Hotspurs.

 The Spurs are now in the quarterfinals
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 19-03-2011, 12:03:58
The draw for the upcoming quarterfinals in the Champions League was done yesterday!

What a draw

Real Madrid vs Tottenham Hotspur    5 April    13 April
Chelsea vs Manchester United    6 April    12 April
Barcelona vs Shakhtar Donetsk    6 April    12 April
Internazionale vs Schalke 04            5 April    13 April

 It's a strange feeling but I think Tottenham really have a good shot at beating Mourinho's gang
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Smiles on 19-03-2011, 15:03:15
Darnit was hoping for barca manchester. Looks great though :).
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 19-03-2011, 15:03:47
I hope "Spurs" wins this UCL. I mean, they have a great team imo, hope they kill, destroy, erase the Internazionale cowards.

Milan can go off too, nobody needs Milan, fuck off.. people says.

I hope Fake Madrid gets eliminated soon, i didnt liked Pepe just trying to kill Lisandro Lopez (Great player from my National Club, Racing Club), big time losers. They showed how coward they are back in Group Stage, that match against Ajax, getting Red cards to clean up their Yellows. Love Benzema tho, great player, and Ozil too.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 19-03-2011, 16:03:15
And just like always when it comes to Spurs...

After a victory in CL it's time for a CL hangover

This time it ended with an 0-0 against West Ham
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 02-04-2011, 16:04:19
West Ham - Manchester United

I'm not even surprised

West Ham opens up with 2-0 and then Rooney wakes up and it ends 2-4

I'm not surprised at all

Wigan is at the moment giving Tottenham a bad time, I'm really worried for the upcoming CL game against Real Madrid
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 02-04-2011, 19:04:18
Nah no surprise in the stoke-united game. they always somehow turn the result. I do not like them one bit, but damn can they play.

And of course spurs fails to catch up with the top 4. at least chelsea got a draw as well and liverpool lost.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 03-04-2011, 03:04:26
I'm praying for a draw between Manchester City and Sunderland tomorrow, Spurs chance of getting a CL spot next season is getting smaller and smaller and the moment...

 Milan vs Inter, what a show.

And Arsenal got a 0-0 against Blackburn!

What's happening

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 03-04-2011, 08:04:07
Arsenal, god fucking damnt
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 04-04-2011, 15:04:02
AIK is gonna KICK DJURGÅRDENS ASS TODAY!

swedish season premier, Finally!!!

Å VI É AIK
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: S1lv3rWolf on 04-04-2011, 16:04:38
FC Porto became national champions yesterday, beating their rivals Benfica on their home turf 2 to 1, the hilarious part though was when the celebrations started, Benfica turned off the lights, turned on the sprinkler system and began playing their own songs. ;D

You can read this ESPN article if you want to: http://es.pn/eWgbY0
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 04-04-2011, 22:04:17
FC Porto became national champions yesterday, beating their rivals Benfica on their home turf 2 to 1, the hilarious part though was when the celebrations started, Benfica turned off the lights, turned on the sprinkler system and began playing their own songs

I heard about that, talk about bad losers but still, awesome.

 Heard about St.Pauli a few days ago, they got two players sent off with a red card each. And just a few minutes before the end losing by 2-0 a St.Pauli fan throws in a can of beer and hits the ref right in the head (I actually saw that live and it was a damn good throw, perfect loop) and the ref falls to the ground and the game was stopped.

Anyhow, tomorrow. CL.

I don't know which other game they are showing but I know one thing.

Real Madrid vs Tottenham

Our previous CL games against big teams, I've always been nervous. Not I'm not nervous anymore before the game. Now I'm fine until the game starts and every second is a new heart attack.

If I make it until Wednesday I might build a church in the name of God.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 04-04-2011, 23:04:58
I fear that AIK-DIF today and Real Madrid - Tottenham tomorrow is too much for my nerves.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 05-04-2011, 19:04:10
The beer is cold

The bet is placed

Come on you Spurs!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 05-04-2011, 22:04:19
Real Madrid 4 - 0 Tottenham

Fuck. at least now we'll likely see 5 games between Real Madrid and Barcelona in a very short period (like 3 weeks).
.... trying to look at it positve, but fail at it...


Inter 2 - 5 Schalke 04

AWESOME, hate inter and love schalke, especially neuer. now that spurs are out, i'm hoping for them.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 05-04-2011, 22:04:39
I don't wanna talk about it
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 05-04-2011, 22:04:32
I don't wanna talk about it

I know you're gutted now but just think, at WHL Spurs will be under absolutely no pressure to win.

They will be able to relax, have the full crowd behind them and just try play to their best.

I was like this at half time in 2005 in Istanbul, 45 minutes later....

Chin up and never say never  ;)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 05-04-2011, 23:04:33
Except now it is Spurs against José Mourinho. Remember what he did to barcelona last year.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 06-04-2011, 01:04:29
Except now it is Spurs against José Mourinho. Remember what he did to barcelona last year.

Just trying to make him feel a bit better bout things, unlikely as it may be
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: S1lv3rWolf on 08-04-2011, 10:04:11
Europa League seems to be going for us Iberians this year, big scores yesterday from Villareal, Porto and Benfica.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 09-04-2011, 04:04:26
WHAT THE FUCK

I tought tottenham would actually score a goal, dont know. They were kinda nervous, Crouch got a red card too quick, with Crouch on the field atleast 70 Minutes a goal could have been scored. Still, no chance for the Spurs to reach the Final, first Fake Madrid then Barça. Impossible.

Great job Schalke, Inter deserved more Goals anyways, even a 0-10 wouldnt be enough to shut their mouths. They thought they were Superior, and there you go. Love to see Inter crying, i love you Diego Milito <3

And happy, Juventus won 2-0 against Roma, finally a victory. I hope for a Champions League spot tho :)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Smiles on 09-04-2011, 12:04:12
Why are you ll so anti super football. I love the individual quality those players bring. Gives me a great time watching! I hope the Spurs can bring something next match, though im not counting on it but i want a good game instead of a slaughter. (What the hell was Crouch thinking, those long legs arnt made for tackles!)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 10-04-2011, 20:04:04
Yet another victory for Juventus.



But it is not enough.

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 11-04-2011, 22:04:24
So, two days ago I went to London for the first time and I saw Tottenham play against Stoke at White Hart Lane and it was...

AWESOME

What a start that game had, Crouch, Modric and then Crouch again, 3 Spurs goals in the first half and I had a great seat just right behind Stokes goalkeeper. The game ended 3-2 to Spurs on a sunny Saturday afternoon.

And today, Liverpool just beat Manchester City.

The chance for a new CL spot is not far away now for the Spurs...

BTW, damn London had some nice weather this weekend, they call it spring, I call it typical Swedish July Weather
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 11-04-2011, 22:04:37
I'm jealous rawhide!

Nice that you got to see a spurs-victory! feels like ages since they last won a league game!

And great to see pool beat shitty, watched the game and liverpool dominated the game.

and AIK won against Mjällby yesterday!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 11-04-2011, 23:04:07
Made up with the performance tonight, absolutely faultless.

I feel sorry for Mancini having to manage such a bunch of mercenaries, Balotelli is a joke.

As much as I would like Spurs to get 4th I can't see it happening. Man City have a much easier run in.

Stranger things have happened though....
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: im_a_lazy_sod on 12-04-2011, 09:04:34
Summer weather in London we call early/late winter weather in Perth  8)

Seriously it's mid-Autumn and we're still getting 25-30 degree days (no complaints as there is finally almost no stickiness to the air)

Some good games on the weekend

Was gutted Spurs got done in the CL - am hoping they can at least bow out with pride (unless of course they win 5-0)

Am glad we beat wolves - but i missed the first half as the footy back home was on (Australian Football) and was enjoying watching the team up the road lose at home in the last few minutes :D

Aside from the Aussies on here, who else knows much about AFL? The European following and in particular the European leagues are picking up quite nicely
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 12-04-2011, 20:04:23
Oh and yeah, I talked to some local Spurs supporters at the Bricklayer pub just a few meters away from White Hart Lane, they were almost too sure that Spurs would beat Madrid tomorrow with at least 5-0  ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 13-04-2011, 20:04:29
C'mon Schale, c'mon Spurs!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 13-04-2011, 21:04:29
Schalke has it... tottenham, not so sure  :D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 13-04-2011, 22:04:57
These two Spurs vs Real Madrid games are two of the most boring and frustrating games I have ever seen with my Spurs eyes

Now we shall pray for another go at this
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 13-04-2011, 23:04:39
Schalke is my team the rest of the tourney
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 13-04-2011, 23:04:53
yeah now I'm cheering for schalke.

IN A WAY (this is just over-positive thinking) it's kind of a good thing that Real won. They are one of the few teams (them and united) capable of defeating Barcelona. As long as barcelona doesn't win I'm happy.

Spurs made it to the quarter-finals and have had some great games this tournament. Now lets put full focus on getting that fourth place!

Dream final is Real Madrid - Schalke, Raul vs Real.

As much as i hate barcelona, I would love to see united face them, so would be a great final too.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: SiCaRiO on 14-04-2011, 00:04:34
cant wait for barça vs madrid =9
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 14-04-2011, 20:04:59
So long, Barcelona and United don't win I'm happy

 I actually hope to see Real Madrid vs Schalke in the finale

Mainly because I think Madrid would win and Madrid beat Spurs so we have a good excuse

Anyhow, I'm very impressed with what Spurs have done this CL season, you can't blame them for nothing. What a season, what a way they went there in the first place, I think they'll repeat it this season

Come on you Spurs!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 15-04-2011, 03:04:27
Anybody watching Man U vs Chelsea?  Most awesome volley of goals.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 15-04-2011, 09:04:02
you mean watched?

was quite a good game. always enjoyable to see Torres fail in chelsea.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 15-04-2011, 13:04:32
Yeah watched (though I just got to see it cause my darn tv never has football on.) worst part about living in america
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Smiles on 15-04-2011, 14:04:37
Barca - Man United.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 15-04-2011, 18:04:59
http://www.hasandycarrollscoredforliverpool.com/

 ;)

Tomorrow, Manchester Derby in the FA Cup!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 15-04-2011, 22:04:13
http://www.hasandycarrollscoredforliverpool.com/

 ;)

Tomorrow, Manchester Derby in the FA Cup!
http://www.hasfernandotorresscoredforchelsea.com/

Will be a great game! John Guidetti is on the bench!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 16-04-2011, 17:04:39
And also, tonight there's a clash of titans between Real Madrid and Barcelona!

Saturdays <3
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 16-04-2011, 18:04:28
Good Derbys today.

Also Racing v Independiente in Argentina, great Derby, its gonna be a party and im gonna be there!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 16-04-2011, 21:04:37
Manchester City vs Manchester United, 1-0

 City is now in the FA Cup final

 As a Tottenham supporter I gotta say I loved this game, even though Balotelli does anything and everything to make himself look like an asshole

Cheers City, you deserved that win
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 16-04-2011, 22:04:02
El Clásico!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 16-04-2011, 23:04:14
Okay it may have been a penalty, but NEVER a red card. Fucking david villa.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 16-04-2011, 23:04:45
real madrid is going to lose anyway...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 16-04-2011, 23:04:29
NOW they are. This game at least. The league is lost, this game is just for their pride.

Wait until the Semi-finals in CL. Then it's time for mourinho to do his magic
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 16-04-2011, 23:04:19
that was ridiculous.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 16-04-2011, 23:04:16
really?
I'm biased, but objevtively: that clearly was a penalty.

Interesting!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 16-04-2011, 23:04:53
but it shouldn't have been a yellow card, and he touch the ball
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: SiCaRiO on 16-04-2011, 23:04:02
that wasnt penalty D:
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 16-04-2011, 23:04:53
was he on the ball before touching marcelo? low quality stream and it was very close.

Well, Valdés got a yellow card. Not for a tackle (he didn't do one) but I guess for complaining/bad-mouthing.


and damn that were some intense last 10 minutes.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 16-04-2011, 23:04:10
would have been a lot epic-er if Khedira had scored!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 17-04-2011, 19:04:17
WTF ARSENAL!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 17-04-2011, 19:04:22
Didn't watch the game. just read att www.livescore.com that both RvP and Kuyt scored on penalties, both in the 90th minute. What happened?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 17-04-2011, 20:04:29
Apparently both team made a clear violations in the end.

The Liverpool one is a close call, they were awarded a very close free kick, which created a havoc near Arsenal's goalie. That mess created the penalty, which Dirk Kuyt executed very well.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 17-04-2011, 20:04:29
Game was 0-0 forever, caragher got knocked out, so they added 8 mins of injury time...like 94th minute, fabergas got taken down, legit penalty, persie scores. Crowd is going wild, it's awesome, arsenal looks sure to win. Then foul on the outside of their box, right on the edge, it's like the 100th minute, looks like last kick of the game, they just drive the ball straight into the wall, but then as it's being deflected, eboue pushes I can't remember who with two hands and Kuyt steps up and takes the last kick of the game and ties it with a penalty. Arsene Wenger looked like he was going to murder people. He and kenny daglish were yelling at each other
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 17-04-2011, 20:04:04
Ohh my god Juventus, when we will see the Turin Giant kickin ass again?

To hell with Del Neri, you're just killing the Vecchia Signora. They seriusly should stop signing players like Benzagli whatever his name is and Luca Toni and stop ffs thinking about getting world class players like Benzema, Torres and Adebayor because IT WONT HAPPEN.

I Miss Juve's old golden days, why the fuck people wants to fuck up such a succesfull club... WHY?!

0-0 Draw against Fiorentina, there will be no Champions League spot, just a silly Europa League one... i hope.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Eglaerinion on 17-04-2011, 22:04:44
Joke penalty for Liverpool. Clear dive. FA wants Man Utd to be champions cause this sort of stuff has been happening all season.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 17-04-2011, 23:04:46
Joke penalty for Liverpool. Clear dive. FA wants Man Utd to be champions cause this sort of stuff has been happening all season.

You buy your glasses at the same place as Arsene Wenger?

Clear push in the back, the reaction of Eboue and the other Arsenal players says it all. They knew it was a penalty.

There's 38 games a season, Arsenal only have themselves to blame. You can't expect other teams to win the league for you. Bunch of bottlers.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 18-04-2011, 05:04:15
From a clear standpoint: they are very desperate to equalize the score, using any means necessary.

That guy deliberately stood in front of Eboue who is not looking forward (his eyes were on the flying ball) and waited, expected for the impact. You can clearly see it from the replay. But, it wasn't a dive for sure.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 18-04-2011, 21:04:42
Arsenals game against Liverpool pretty sums up Arsenals performance and season...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 19-04-2011, 06:04:53
Nigeria has lost a national footballer today.

Olubayo Adefemi
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: MaJ.P.Bouras on 19-04-2011, 12:04:39
Yeah and he died by a car accident here in Greece...Darn shame that the roads here claim so many lives every year....
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 19-04-2011, 20:04:11
Tomorrow, Tottenham versus Arsenal!

Tomorrow, Real Madrid versus Barcelona!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 20-04-2011, 21:04:02
Hey boys is this a game or is this a game? GO GUNNERS!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 20-04-2011, 22:04:17
Looking at the results it looks pretty damn amazing.

Watching Barcelona - Real Madrid though.

I can't think of last time a team made barca look so bad. Real Madrid are dominating the first half. So far Barca hasn't had a single shot on goal (only 2 shots in total). It's only a matter of time before real scores.

This game clearly shows the difference in quality between Pep Guardiola and José Mourinho. Pep plays with the same midfield and forwards as always, mourinho dares to throw around and show some manager-expertise (ronaldo as a forward, di maria to the left, özil to the right. Pepe, alonso and khedira form the central midfield.

Can't wait for the CL games!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 20-04-2011, 22:04:56
Why arent you wathcing tottham? Why more entertaining...3-3!? PK's, amazing goals. All a game needs.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 20-04-2011, 22:04:10
Every fucking time Arsenal, Every fucking time you blow it and get a draw. You FUCKS.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: SiCaRiO on 20-04-2011, 22:04:58
dear arbitro:

f*ck you!. that was goal ><
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 21-04-2011, 00:04:20
FUCK YEAH

Real Madrid won! Ronaldo scored in the 103rd minute. Was fucking good game. First half real dominated, second half barcelona dominated (except for last 10 minutes). and the overtime!

again, really proves how Guardiola is a... dimension-less manager so to speak. Unlike mourinho who can really adapt.

I'm certain Real Madrid will win in the CL as well, they got confidence now!

Angel Di Maria, what a player!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Smiles on 21-04-2011, 12:04:38
What a BORING match yesterday. Only enjoyed the first 20 minutes. Cant wait for the CL games though.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 21-04-2011, 12:04:24
u kid? first whole half was intense, the overtime as well. I admit second half was kinda slow

Tonight it's AIK - IFK Göteborg! Bang Bang Bangura!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 21-04-2011, 18:04:42
FUCK YEAH

Real Madrid won! Ronaldo scored in the 103rd minute. Was fucking good game. First half real dominated, second half barcelona dominated (except for last 10 minutes). and the overtime!

again, really proves how Guardiola is a... dimension-less manager so to speak. Unlike mourinho who can really adapt.

I'm certain Real Madrid will win in the CL as well, they got confidence now!

Angel Di Maria, what a player!

Sergio Ramos, all foot, no hand

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGYqpT84RtY

If football is about the business of winning, than Real Madrid and Mourinho could be my hero.

But sadly, it is a sport and entertainment too. I can't really watch Mourinho's game, but will surely bet for his team.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 22-04-2011, 04:04:14
Our Flag beign displayed in Last Weekend clasico in Avellaneda.

(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/218173_1969013151166_1418091835_32229679_6991450_n.jpg)

Wonder how many European teams (excluding Spanish teams) has these gigantic flags?

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 22-04-2011, 11:04:01
Our Flag beign displayed in Last Weekend clasico in Avellaneda.
Wonder how many European teams (excluding Spanish teams) has these gigantic flags?


Big flag indeed. But in sweden we go for this before the games:

Just watch this 0:27 long clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsvGCrWCa8s&feature=related

and the first 10 seconds of this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-9KXoqro2w
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Thorondor123 on 24-04-2011, 18:04:39
Haha! Go Notlob go!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 24-04-2011, 19:04:18
Well Arsenal...that's that then
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Eglaerinion on 24-04-2011, 22:04:22
Arsenal need to invest some serious money. Can't win any prices with a bunch of naive youngsters.

Dutch title will most likely be decided in the last match again. Hopefully Ajax will manage to claim it, they deserve it after 6 or 7 years.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 24-04-2011, 23:04:48
Champions League struggle for Juve is over, getting 4th Place in Serie A will need a miracle.

A 2-2 Draw against Catania of Diego Simeone (Racing Club fan :) ) wich is mediocre.

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 25-04-2011, 11:04:07
I feel bad for Arsenal, they have a great squad but still lacks that little something that can make them have a go at United.

Anyway, the 4th place for Spurs is getting harder and harder. Liverpool is now coming up behind Spurs and City won't budge.

Spurs and Arsenal have the same problem, we have too much trouble with the "easy games"
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 28-04-2011, 09:04:17
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/13191779.stm

Real Madrid is trashed 0-2 by Barca.

However, I'm not satisfied, since they have to sent off Pepe and Mourinho. It should be a total humiliating defeat with Madrid in full team and in their own base. That'd be awesome.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 28-04-2011, 10:04:24
I'm so fucking mad.

This was no fucking coincidence. Barcelona has the reputation of being the "nice and cosy family team where everybody loves everyone" (which is not true by a long shot).
How is it that Mourinho gets one player sent off in EVERY game against barcelona? no coincidence.
Pepe, the most important player for Real during these 4 el clasico's gets sent off. No coincidence.
Ramos and Pepe are unavailable in the next game, no idea how real will form the defence.

Mourinho said at a press conference that "it is over. Barcelona have reached the finals..." He's right.

Pepe's tackle wasn't even a yellow card.

I call a huge bribe and corruption scandal, like everytime Barcelona plays CL.

Arsenal got Van Persie sent off this year, real got Pepe. Last year Inter played with 10 men against them, and the year before that Chelsea scored a goal which was ruled (falsely) as offside.

This isn't even fun anymore.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 28-04-2011, 11:04:07
Conspiracy? Don't be daft  ::)

Real got exactly what they deserved for being so negative.

Barca had Mascherano playing centre back and I can't remember Madrid ever posing a real attacking threat.

Facing a make-shift centre back whilst in your home stadium and not attacking is inexcusable. Typical dull, defensive Mourinho tactics.

I don't agree that Pepe deserved to be sent off (definate yellow btw) but I was pleased it opened up the midfield more as it stopped Mourinho deliberately clogging it up.

With Pepe, it was like he was playing 5 at the back particularly as he can't pass forward. Mourihno deserved to be sent off as well, I hated his arrogant sarcastic badgering of the referee's assistant.

All in all it wasn't a glamorous advert for Spanish football, both teams behaved liked spoiled brats.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 28-04-2011, 12:04:55
Mourinho is a much more talented coach than guardiola. Guardiola is incredibly overrated. He can play one kind of game and can't derail from that tactic. Guardiola can not close off a game, he and barcelona just attack and attack. Mourinho (and ferguson) on the other hand can close off a game AND play offensively, that's what makes him so darn good and I'm impressed by that.

You do realize that many many teams have tried to play offensively against barcelona, but it hasn't worked?
Mourinho is one of the few, if not the only one, who knows how to handle them. You have to close them off.
Pepe is a key-player against Barca, He completely closed off the spaces Messi loves to move in on. When pepe was off, messi had free passage, he was invisible for the whole game until then when he scored 2 goals.

In short, the "only" way to beat barcelona is to play like mourinho did last night. It works perfectly. I don' understand why you are complaining about "Typical dull, defensive mourinho tactics".


2008 I hated mourinho. Last year i had a hate-love relationship with him. Now i love him. Amazing coach and I like his style. His football may be boring, but it is so effective and impressive.

This article is exactly what I'm talking about, and I agree with mourinho in every single word he says:
Quote
José Mourinho effectively accused Uefa of fixing it for Barcelona to reach the Champions League final after his Real Madrid team were beaten 2-0 at home by their fiercest rivals in an ugly and controversy-filled first leg of their semi-final.

Mourinho claimed it was "impossible" for Madrid to defeat the dark forces lined up against them after a night on which he and his defender Pepe were sent off. Two goals by Lionel Messi followed those dismissals to leave Barça on the verge of the final, where they look certain to meet Manchester United.

Madrid's coach accused Barcelona of wielding untouchable power in European football and said their coach, Pep Guardiola, should feel "ashamed" if he wins a competition that "yet again" is engulfed in "scandal". Barcelona also had a man sent off, their substitute goalkeeper, José Pinto, for his role in a mass brawl as the teams left the field at half-time. The incident was one of numerous flashpoints.

"One day," Mourinho said, pointedly using the Barcelona coach's full name, "I would like Josep Guardiola to win this competition properly." That was a reference to the controversial semi-final victory of Guardiola's team over Chelsea en route to their triumph in 2009.

Mourinho, who has had a player sent off in all four meetings with Barcelona this season and with Internazionale in last season's semi-final, said that he did not want to say what he "really thinks" because he feared a life ban but he did insist he felt "disgusted" to be working in football. In the end there was little holding back. The accusation was hardly a veiled one.

Mourinho claimed his red card and that handed to Pepe were unjustified and that this was not the first time Barcelona's opponents have been singled out for unfair punishment. He reeled off a list of referees whom he said had "favoured" the Catalan side, pointing an accusing finger at those who he sees as engaged in a pro‑Barça conspiracy. He insisted that the evidence is unavoidable and asked: "Why?"

"If I tell Uefa what I really think and feel, my career would end now," Mourinho said. "Instead I will just ask a question to which I hope one day to get a response: Why? Why? Why Ovrebo? Why Busacca? Why De Bleeckere? Why Stark? Why? Because every semi-final the same things happen. We are talking about an absolutely fantastic football team, so why do they need that? Why? Why does a team as good as they are need something [extra] that is so obvious that everyone sees it?

"Why Ovrebo [two] years ago [when the Norwegian referee did not give Chelsea a series of penalties against Barcelona]? Why couldn't Chelsea go to the final? Last year it was a miracle that Inter got there playing with 10 men for so long. A miracle. Why weren't there four penalties against Chelsea [in 2009]? Why send off [Arsenal's Robin] Van Persie [in the last 16]? Where does their power come from?

"It could have been 0-0 tonight, but then suddenly we are down to 10 men and they have a free path to find solutions that they could not find before then: we could have played for three hours and they would not have scored. But today we have seen that it is not difficult – it is impossible.

"The question," Mourinho continued, "is why? I don't know if it is the Unicef sponsorship or if it is because they are nice guys. I don't understand. Congratulations to Barcelona on being a great team and congratulations for all the other stuff you have which must be very hard to achieve. They have power and we have no chance. Chelsea had bans for Drogba and Bosingwa; Wenger and Nasri were banned for Arsenal; me today. I don't know why. All I can do is leave that question here in the air and hope that one day I will get the response. They have to get to the final, and they'll get there, full stop."

Asked if Madrid, trailing 2-0, were now out, Mourinho replied simply: "Yes, yes." There was a pause and then he added: "We will go there with pride and respect for football. It is a world that sometimes disgusts me to live in and earn a living from, but it is my world. We have to go there without Pepe, who didn't do anything, without [the suspended] Ramos who did nothing, without a coach who can't be on the bench. It is impossible. And if we score a goal and open up the tie a little, they will just kill it again. Tonight we have seen that we do not have any chance."

Mourinho sought to discredit Barcelona's 2009 Champions League success and any victory they may have this season.

"Josep Guardiola is a fantastic coach," he said, "but I have won two Champions Leagues. He has won [only] one Champions League and that is one that would embarrass me. I would be ashamed to have won it with the scandal of Stamford Bridge and, if he wins it this year, it will be with the scandal of the Bernabéu. I hope that one day he can win a proper Champions League. Deep down, if they are good people, it cannot taste right for them. I hope one day Guardiola has the chance of winning a brilliant, clean championship with no scandal."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/apr/28/jose-mourinho-real-madrid-barcelona
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 28-04-2011, 12:04:19
I hated Mourinho always, ever since 2008. I just loved him when he coach Inter Milan... then it is over.

The word "football pragmatism" (Mourinho's style), although highly effective, just doesn't sound too brilliant in my ears. It destroys many beautiful game.

Anyway, I am disappointed in that game, really. Pepe shouldn't be sent off, only Mourinho perhaps... this guy is an arrogant superstar in the making. Coaching big teams and winning most of the times rewarded him with so many bragging rights so he thought.

Ferguson, being self-made could rant about anything he wanted for all I care. But the real cream of the crop is Luigi del Neri, who brought Chievo from zero to hero (if it wasn't fixed, as high-profile football competition normally is).
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 28-04-2011, 12:04:30
Pure disgrace from the referee. Barcelone is always favoure and i mean every single Champions League game.

This is starting to get annoying.... always the same shit. Uefa Unicef favours maybe ?

Has you can see here, Pepe doesnt event touch the Barcelona player. This is too much. Pure robbery.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou_JW72XWJQ
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Smiles on 28-04-2011, 13:04:17
I think Real should pay back all supporters their money. What..the.. fuck. So lame, so boring, so uncreative. Would rather watch Chess.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 28-04-2011, 13:04:48
So Tedacious, you're quoting Mourinho as if he is talking factually?  ::)

The man is deluded he has a long history of blaming the referee and calling bias against him when he loses. This isn't just about Barcelona with him, it's about his perception that he as a manager is unjustly treated by referees. He has about as much class as Alex Ferguson.

In favour Slur Alex, I'm confident that in the final he won't be as negative as Mourinho. I predict he will use his wide men to better effect, making space in the middle of the park for Rooney to drop deep and create the play. Rather than using a centre back as a make shift center midfielder (a la Mourinho), Ferguson can have a choice of Carrick or Fletcher to shield the back line, who can then also join in attacks.

If only Mourinho's tactics were as offensive as his pre-match mind games then Real would have stood more of a chance. Say what you want about Guardiola, but it was his substitute (Afellay) who created the goal for Messi, what did Mourinho contribute other than getting himself sent off?

You say negative tactics are the only way to have a chance against Barcelona, well they have failed Mourinho a number of times this season already. If you are going to lose, then lose positively. Don't just sit back and let Barcelona dictate the game, hoping for the odd chance to get lucky and score (as in the Copa del Rey).
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Eglaerinion on 28-04-2011, 15:04:40
Match was joke anyway. Both teams diving, cheating and whining constantly. Not really good football. Schalke vs Man Utd was much better.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 28-04-2011, 18:04:58
So Tedacious, you're quoting Mourinho as if he is talking factually?  ::)

The man is deluded he has a long history of blaming the referee and calling bias against him when he loses. This isn't just about Barcelona with him, it's about his perception that he as a manager is unjustly treated by referees. He has about as much class as Alex Ferguson.

First of all, it is a fact.

He may not be mistreated by the referees as much as barcelona are favoured by them.
1 red card in each four el clasicos this season, no fucking coincidence.

The barcelona players are fucking pussies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygmGIFz_EP0&feature=player_embedded

The worst part is that they have the false reputation of beeing the "nice" team, so the referees judge in their favour all the time.

I think Real should pay back all supporters their money. What..the.. fuck. So lame, so boring, so uncreative. Would rather watch Chess.
Then fucking go watch chess. This is the attitude that cause real madrid to be trophy-less since 2008. Capello got fired cause they "played boring football". That's not what it's about. Mourinho was hired to win trophies, he owes nothing to the supporters.

You seriously can't blame mourinho for playing defensively against probably the best and most offensive team in the world. Play offensively against them and you're screwed once they get a hold of the ball. This sunday Real played 6-3 against valencia, does that sound like boring football to you?

What the fuck would you do if you where mourinho? he's a freaking genious the way he stopped Real madrid these last three games (until the red cards).
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 28-04-2011, 19:04:27
So Tedacious, you're quoting Mourinho as if he is talking factually?  ::)

The man is deluded he has a long history of blaming the referee and calling bias against him when he loses. This isn't just about Barcelona with him, it's about his perception that he as a manager is unjustly treated by referees. He has about as much class as Alex Ferguson.

First of all, it is a fact.

He may not be mistreated by the referees as much as barcelona are favoured by them.
1 red card in each four el clasicos this season, no fucking coincidence.

The barcelona players are fucking pussies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygmGIFz_EP0&feature=player_embedded

The worst part is that they have the false reputation of beeing the "nice" team, so the referees judge in their favour all the time.

I think Real should pay back all supporters their money. What..the.. fuck. So lame, so boring, so uncreative. Would rather watch Chess.
Then fucking go watch chess. This is the attitude that cause real madrid to be trophy-less since 2008. Capello got fired cause they "played boring football". That's not what it's about. Mourinho was hired to win trophies, he owes nothing to the supporters.

You seriously can't blame mourinho for playing defensively against probably the best and most offensive team in the world. Play offensively against them and you're screwed once they get a hold of the ball. This sunday Real played 6-3 against valencia, does that sound like boring football to you?

What the fuck would you do if you where mourinho? he's a freaking genious the way he stopped Real madrid these last three games (until the red cards).

Alright, calm down it's only a discussion..

Firstly I'm saying you shouldn't take Mourinho's interpretation of what has happened as FACT. I don't deny there have been dubious sending offs, but it's all a bit Alex Jones to go sugggesting some kind of anti-Mourinho conspiracy isn't it?

I am not calling Mourinho a defensive manager by nature, just that in most big games that's how he sets his team out. It has failed more often than it has worked against Barcelona, so I would suggest a change in strategy.

You're right about when Barca have the ball they are unstoppable, the key is to make them work hard to get it. As much as I despise Manchester United and all they stand for, they will keep the ball far better than Real did last night (which Mourinho has to take the blame for thanks to putting Pepe in the midfield). I think swift counter attacks when Barca lose the ball near United's box will be the order of the day.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 28-04-2011, 20:04:04
Looking forward for the Europa League games.

3 Portuguese teams out of 4 in the Semi-Finals.

Im supporting FC Porto offcourse.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 30-04-2011, 15:04:02
 30/04/2011    Blackburn            Bolton
 30/04/2011    Blackpool            Stoke
 30/04/2011    Sunderland    Fulham
 30/04/2011    WBA                   Aston Villa
 30/04/2011    Wigan       Everton
 30/04/2011    Chelsea       Tottenham
 01/05/2011    Birmingham    Wolves
 01/05/2011    Liverpool       Newcastle
 01/05/2011    Arsenal       Man Utd
 01/05/2011    Man City            West Ham

 Nice weekend, eh?

 Tottenham gotta go all in tonight if they even wanna have a small, small, very small chance at that 4th place and the Champions League playoff
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 30-04-2011, 19:04:07
Not a goal! Ref you can't give something you are unsure of because you no where near it. Fuck you chelsea
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 30-04-2011, 19:04:14
What? Pepe is a fucking mad dude, should be out of football.

Why are you defending such an idiot? telling messi "ARE YOU CRAZY??!", kicking players when they're down, and he may not have touched Alves but, he WANTED to do it, so stfu.

Madrid didnt deserved this place in the end, dont be stupid, remember Madrid-Ajax match? YOU CALL THAT A TEAM?

It is a team, a team of PUSSIES.


And Mourinho shouldnt be crying, HES THE COACH OF ONE OF THE BEST TEAM IN THE WORLD damnit! what is that "We lost, Barça is in the finals" bullshit? GO TRY TO WIN DUMBASS, not even the Gijon coach will say that.

What an ass.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 30-04-2011, 20:04:42
@ Ted: if you think it is not a coincidence that RM gets a red card almost every match when they play Barca, then check out how they play. In the Copa del Rey they should have gotten two red cards (and yes, one of those should have gone to pepe and the other to Arbeloa), they didn't get them and they won in the end. And Moruinho has the balls to say that he won the Copa in an honest way. Wow, that made me puke.

Last Clasico, Real Madrid should have had at least one player sent off. I agree that in the YT clip it looks like Pepe is not touching Alves, but Marcelo should have gotten red for standing on the leg of Pedro, the red stain on his leg was still visible when he was sitting in the dugout. Maybe even Adebayor who made a hitting move against Busquets, but I'll leave that open to discussion. And then Pepe, yeah, well...

I think it is a crying shame that when a team cannot win from another team by playing football, they have to get physical and call bias by referees, and even more ridiculous, conspiracy thinking related to Unicef.

Against Chelsea in 2009 Barcelona had luck, I agree. But this last Clasico had nothing to do with that game.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Eglaerinion on 30-04-2011, 20:04:46
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but Marcelo should have gotten red for standing on the leg of Pedro, the red stain on his leg was still visible when he was sitting in the dugout.
He should get a medal. Pedro is a cheating scumbag.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 30-04-2011, 21:04:49
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but Marcelo should have gotten red for standing on the leg of Pedro, the red stain on his leg was still visible when he was sitting in the dugout.
He should get a medal. Pedro is a cheating scumbag.

Which is a shame because he is a fantastic player  :P

What's sad is that this culture exists within some of the best football nations in the world were cheating, play acting, feigning injury, trying to con the referee etc is seen as 'clever' and celebrated rather than scorned.

Latin and Italian teams seem to have this culture embedded deep within their style of play. Maradona's imfamous 'Hand of God': in England it is seen a cheating, a cheap victory at the expense of good sportsmanship. In Argentina, as devious and clever, a skill in its own right.

Unfortunately I can never see it changing, it's as big a part of their football as a wonderful step over or flamboyantly outrageous piece of skill. Just a different footballing culture.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: MaJ.P.Bouras on 30-04-2011, 21:04:08
Search for Karangounis...That guy here in Greece is also known as "Kolotoumpas" which means the one who rolls a lot...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 01-05-2011, 03:05:36
I hate to say it but, Di Maria also dived alot against Dani Alves.


In the other hand, im so proud Messi is Argentinean, the second goal was EPIC.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 01-05-2011, 09:05:24
Not a goal! Ref you can't give something you are unsure of because you no where near it. Fuck you chelsea
Thank you, Moose.

 Sure, Tottenham ain't the better team and they are really having a bad time now and that 4th place for CL playoff and Europa League spot is going more and more away from them.

Still, what a fucktard. If you ain't sure if the ball is in or not, don't fucking call it a goal!

Sure, Gomes is not the best goalkeeper but what the fuck.

And that second goal...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 01-05-2011, 14:05:18
I hate to say it but, Di Maria also dived alot against Dani Alves.
Yes, let's not forget about that. Both teams were doing the diving, but RM players are calling the Barca players "crying babies" while they keep doing it themselves too. Ultra childish.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Eglaerinion on 01-05-2011, 16:05:05
Watching Arsenal - Man Utd, again it's obvious who the FA wants to be champions this year. Man Utd can do anything they want and get away with it.

mmm 1-0 Ramsey

Update on Dutch title race:

Last match in two weeks time, Ajax vs Twente. Twente needs a draw to become Dutch champions, Ajax needs a win. Gonna be a great match!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 01-05-2011, 17:05:20
Yay great bday present to me, thanks arsenal
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 01-05-2011, 17:05:49
Yay great bday present to me, thanks arsenal

Happy Birthday, real nice to see Arsenal beating Manchester United!

Hell, I would even like to see Chelsea win PL instead of Manchester United if I had to choose.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 01-05-2011, 19:05:45
happy birthday moose!

god no. I don't like united, but chelsea is far worse.

Arsenal, nice timing... When the title is out of their hands they beat united.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 01-05-2011, 19:05:21
United lose, Chelsea wins, City wins, Arsenal wins.

 Not the best weekend for Tottenham, I even think Everton will go past us before this season is over...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 01-05-2011, 22:05:25
I can't abide by Chelsea winning over man utd, I just hate chelsea to the core
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 01-05-2011, 23:05:15
United lose, Chelsea wins, City wins, Arsenal wins.

 Not the best weekend for Tottenham, I even think Everton will go past us before this season is over...
Liverpool passed us as well (albeit with one more game played)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 02-05-2011, 17:05:13
Anyone ever heard about the term "sore losers"?

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Champions League hopefuls Real Madrid have asked Uefa to take action against six Barcelona players in the aftermath of last week's Champions League semifinal at the Santiago Bernabeu, AS reports.

Barca recorded a 2-0 win over the capital club, but the match was marred by incidents as Jose Pinto, Pepe and Jose Mourinho were all dismissed during the contest.

Madrid have allegedly demanded two-match bans for Dani Alves, Sergio Busquets and Pedro for their unsporting behavior, and have also asked Uefa to suspend Javier Mascherano, Seydou Keita and Victor Valdes for one game for their involvement in various altercations.

Uefa's disciplinary committee meets in Nyon on Monday to discuss Madrid's complaints and is expected to announce its decision before Tuesday's second-leg at Camp Nou.

Real Madrid have also asked Uefa to take action against head coach Pep Guardiola as they believe that the behavior of Barca's players was part of the tactician's 'premeditated anti-sporting' plan to disrupt the Bernabeu giants.

Haha, Real accusing other people of unsportsmanship. The world gets crazier everyday.

Btw: Uefa already dismissed all charges, both from Barca and from Real. Now come on, Spanish children, let's just play football instead of doing this childish stuff afterwards.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 02-05-2011, 17:05:49
i'm fully with real madrid here. Of course they are not perfect, far from it, but why should barcelona get any special treatment?

Mourinho got suspended this fall for apparently telling the players to try to get a yellow card in CL, so they wouldn't risk a suspension in the play-offs.
Look at how the barca players dove all the time, why shouldn't Guardiola get any punishment for his obvious instructions to dive all the time?

And on the suspensions of the players. First of all, they were diving (and I support a rule to be able to ban diving players after a game has been played).
Secondly and most importantly
READ THIS
Whatever decision the referee made, at least 8 barca-players where rushing to him to argue about it. Even if barcelona got a free kick they would run up (Hell, valdes would run far into reals half) just to scream and argue with the referee.
that is NOT allowed. It's in the rule-book. Sure some real players argued of course (happens all games), but not every damn decision and not every player.

Dani alves should be ashamed. This team ruin the game of football. Wonder what rugby players are saying about "us".
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 02-05-2011, 18:05:53
Ah, forgot to post this.

FCPorto 5 x 1 Villareal

Europa League Final here we come!!!!

(http://notmorethansports.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/fc-porto-vs-villarreal-uefa-europa-league-semi-final-preview-651152.jpg)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 02-05-2011, 18:05:29
...but why should barcelona get any special treatment?
On what do you base the phrase "Barcelona gets special treatment"? Red cards? Then please watch all attacks RM players are executing on Barca players, even when they are down (Arbeloa on Villa in Copa del Rey, Marcelo on Pedro in first CL game -  and thesae are only two examples).

Mourinho got suspended this fall for apparently telling the players to try to get a yellow card in CL, so they wouldn't risk a suspension in the play-offs.
Look at how the barca players dove all the time, why shouldn't Guardiola get any punishment for his obvious instructions to dive all the time?
Eeehm, yes, I'm sorry, but if you didn't see Mourinho give the instructions to both Alonso (directly) and TRamos (via Dudek and Casillas), you have an eye problem (be it literally or figuratively).

About the diving: yes, I hate that too, but it comes both ways (did you see Di Maria and Ronaldo for example?). And yes, maybe Guardiola did give the istructions to dive, but it wasn't as blatant as Mourinho givng the instructions to get a yellow card. Also, if you want Guardiola to be punished for giving instructions to dive (which cannot ever be proven), then we can punish Mourinho for giving instructions to kick down opponent's players. Let's not get into that, it will be endless.

Secondly and most importantly
READ THIS
Whatever decision the referee made, at least 8 barca-players where rushing to him to argue about it. Even if barcelona got a free kick they would run up (Hell, valdes would run far into reals half) just to scream and argue with the referee.
that is NOT allowed. It's in the rule-book. Sure some real players argued of course (happens all games), but not every damn decision and not every player.
You could also call it teamplay.  ;) Also, Valdes was also calming down his teammates, not "just to scream and argue with the referee".

Dani alves should be ashamed. This team ruin the game of football.
Come on, don't be ridiculous. So Real Madrid, unable to win by playing football and therefore resorting to kicking down players from their opponent, is real good advertising for the game of football? At least Barcelona is playing the game focusing in playing the ball and scoring goals. Yes, they do stuff which is nasty too, but I can imagine when being kicked down for the third or fourth time and the referee never noticing it (Copa del Rey twice, Marcelo this time), that there is a limit. And yes, I hate that. But Real players are provoking all the time and when something happens to them it is all crying and turning to Uefa with complaints. It is being the ultimate sore loser to me.

Real Madrid is not intending to even try to play football, look at the first half of last week's match. Nothing happened while they were playing home! The so called " best team in the world" not even trying to play the game? Come on. This is all Mourinho's "tactic", and when the little Portuguese kid doesn't get his way, he resorts to conspiracy thinking. Sad. I hope for RM they get a better coach next year.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 02-05-2011, 18:05:55
I was more surprised at coach instructing its players to commit such unsportsmanlike acts. It is so sick, it is like inviting Bin Laden to your Thanksgiving, puke! It was pretty sad when Ronaldo winked at Rooney getting yellow card, now coaches hinted at taking another chance this is rubbish.

TBH, i rarely noticed coach do this, but I do aware of player's provocation like Valdes take a bother to run half field just to argue with the ref. Really, this people suck big ass. Somehow, I become more inclined for the use of in-game video review to aid referee in making decisions.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 03-05-2011, 02:05:02
Talking about videos and refs, last week one of our Players, Teofilo Gutierrez got a yellow card for "diving" when it was clarly a penalty. After the match, Racing's president and other staff went to the AFA building with a video, telling the AFA dudes to take the yellow out from Gutierrez so he could play against River Plate because the ref disicion was a mistake.

IF, IF this happens in Argentina, it can happen in Europe, so if Alves dived  Madrid can take a video and get the red card removed from Pepe. But since he did touched Alves... well, it wont happen.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 03-05-2011, 10:05:10
Talking about videos and refs, last week one of our Players, Teofilo Gutierrez got a yellow card for "diving" when it was clarly a penalty. After the match, Racing's president and other staff went to the AFA building with a video, telling the AFA dudes to take the yellow out from Gutierrez so he could play against River Plate because the ref disicion was a mistake.

IF, IF this happens in Argentina, it can happen in Europe, so if Alves dived  Madrid can take a video and get the red card removed from Pepe. But since he did touched Alves... well, it wont happen.

There's no way Alves dived, he was touched. What he did do was roll around, feigning the extent of the injury to con the referee into thinking serious contact was made. So I don't think they can rescind the red card.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: ZeG on 03-05-2011, 22:05:03
I just noticed today that Borussia Dortmund are champions. The fans are awesome down there! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=NJDVYXRm7kk#t=66s)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 04-05-2011, 14:05:28
The last Clasico ended 1-1. I think the referee did a good job, although he could have sent off Carvalho. He didn't. So one might think that Real Madrid might be satisfied too now, by ending the match with 11, despite all conspiracy theories about everytime getting a red card. But no, they are not.

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Barcelona Vs. Real Madrid, 2011 Champions League Semifinal: Aitor Karanka Claims Madrid Should Be 'Proud'

Jose Mourinho was unavailable to speak after Real Madrid's 3-1 aggregate loss against Barcelona in the Champions League semifinals, but assistant coach Aitor Karanka was. There's no word if three-quarters of the media left in protest at not getting to speak to His Specialness, but at least we didn't get a repeat of the press conference at the Santiago Bernabeu - although Karanka did have his own complaints to make:

   
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Mourinho said it was impossible for Real Madrid to win the tie and it was. We stood up to Barcelona while on equal terms. All of Madridismo is outraged after what we saw again tonight. With 41 minutes left the [Gonzalo Higuain] disallowed goal changed a lot. The facts are there.  Everyone said the goal was good.

    The entire world saw it and will continue to see it. Thousands watched the first match as well as today's. I already said that today's officiating would be easy because the tie was virtually over after what took place in the Bernabeu. The coach was right yet again. We finished eleven on eleven and in four matches there were two draws, one victory and one defeat. Had we arrived here with a 0-0 in the first leg and eleven players...

    ...

    Fans again saw what this team is all about. The players proved that they know how to play when allowed to. They displayed different methods of playing and different options, and while we were on equal terms we stood up to Barcelona. Madridistas should be proud of everything they have seen in the last month.

While it's easy to see why he'd think the goal should have been given, it's more difficult to reconcile his broader comments with the context of series of matches between Barcelona and Real Madrid over the past few weeks. In only one of those has Real Madrid really deserved anything from the match - the Copa del Rey final, which they duly won 1-0 - and even before the red cards in their league match and the first leg of the Champions League semifinal they were being outplayed by their rivals.

Should Madrid fans feel annoyed and hard done by in general? Probably, yes. The Pepe red card, in particular, was a major blow to their hopes of progressing to Wembley. But that doesn't mean they deserved to go through. Barcelona were better across the pitch. At one level, Real Madrid were victims of gross injustice. But taking a step further back, the better team won. And it wasn't close.

Now they are all crying about the Higuain goal being dismissed. "The referee took a goal away from us". There is a difference between a referee who whistles after the goal has been scored and a referee who does so way before the goal is scored.

I think it is sad that one of the greater teams in Europe is so involved in pointing fingers towards ref's, Uefa, conspiracy, etc. and totally fail to see how they could have improved themselves and maybe have a chance.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 04-05-2011, 20:05:37
I'll probably post a response tomorrow slayer. I'm too tired to even think straight now.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 06-05-2011, 03:05:54
Portuguese final on Europa League.

(http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/487/518/FC_Porto_logo_display_image.png) _______vs_______(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_ATlERUrxXGo/THbVtZCvFEI/AAAAAAAAANU/w1p91JderCI/s1600/SC_Braga.png)

Lets go FC PORTO!!!!!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 07-05-2011, 18:05:40
Everton just beat Manchester City with 2-1!

West Ham and Blackburn ended 1-1, which is terrible for both teams since they might not be around in PL the next seaon. Robbie Keane had a great chance for a 2-1 victory with an open goal but missed the ball...

Next up: Tottenham vs Blackpool
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 08-05-2011, 12:05:33
A picture says more then a thousand words...

(http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/uploads/assets/664x301/2010-11/match_action_home/from_2011/bpool_h_h664.jpg)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 08-05-2011, 16:05:20
Spurs to Europa League? D:
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 08-05-2011, 17:05:47
Spurs to Europa League? D:
Ye, we are closer to EL then CL now and with how things are going we can only hope we also miss EL.

But what a weekend!

Everton - Manchester City, 2-1
Stoke - Arsenal, 3-1

  And now: Manchester United - Chelsea, 2-0

EDIT: Oh, and Milan won the Scudetto!

(http://gfx2.aftonbladet-cdn.se/image/12993477/480/normal/fa2b91f05b0af/zla-dragare.jpg)

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: MaJ.P.Bouras on 08-05-2011, 18:05:23
Hooray for Milan
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Eglaerinion on 08-05-2011, 19:05:08
Crazy Zlatan, last 8 years he played for 5 different teams (Ajax, Juventus, Inter, Barcelona and AC Milan) and he won the title every year.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 08-05-2011, 19:05:59
Crazy Zlatan, last 8 years he played for 5 different teams (Ajax, Juventus, Inter, Barcelona and AC Milan) and he won the title every year
Question is if he'll ever get that Champions League trophy. Previous years he has always been talking about that CL is the thing that matters but after the last drop out with 0-0 at White Hart Lane he said that feeling well and being able to play is more important than CL...

Anyhow, by the looks of it Milan is gearing up to become a superpower the next season and they got Silvio behind backing up for new recruits as well...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 08-05-2011, 19:05:49
(http://gfx.aftonbladet-cdn.se/image/12993567/800/normal/d6b3707d27f74/11s99-AAAAA-42__mngl_20110508sp5x006%2Cspo_1.indd_0198.jpg)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 08-05-2011, 19:05:42
Man Utd wins the title today in a win over chelsea.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 08-05-2011, 21:05:30
Congratulations United to the title. You deserve it.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 10-05-2011, 20:05:35
This time last season, Spurs was going forward. They won games and had a good spirit all around and they also won over Manchester City and got their well deserved 4th place. A 4th place that would lead to Champions League, where they would win their group. Run over Inter at the Lane and also knock out Zlatans AC Milan after a win at San Siro and ending their CL tour with being knocked out by Real Madrid.

 This season we come to Manchester City, with poorly results behind us, bad morale and a coach who's saying that the hope is lost.

It's funny really, times like these you are so prepared Spurs will lose and it's very often they do that Spurs thing that no one predicted and win.

But it's not tonight.

Please, Superman, Jesus and Obama. Just don't let us end up in Europa League!

PL and the FA Cup will do for us in the 2011/2011 season
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Thorondor123 on 14-05-2011, 15:05:02
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSTivVclQQ0

\o/
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Eglaerinion on 14-05-2011, 15:05:23
lol they took the title in style, with a dive.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 14-05-2011, 15:05:38
C'mon Stoke!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Thorondor123 on 14-05-2011, 15:05:40
lol they took the title in style, with a dive.
Did you actually see the match? The ball was long gone when the keeper hit his legs.
U mad? I think u mad.
C'mon Stoke!
Indeed!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 14-05-2011, 16:05:25
So Serie A is almost over and Juventus is in 7th Place, wich is terrible.

Europa League, AGAIN, now this time i hope they dont quit at group stage...


And ffs Juve needs to sign Quagliarella and Matri, that would be badass.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 14-05-2011, 17:05:37
Barça campeons!

(http://barcelona.theoffside.com/files/2011/05/Barcelona-Campeones-Liga.jpg)

I was in Barcelona when they played the game in which they could win their last needed point for the championship and the crowd went craaaazy!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 14-05-2011, 18:05:12
City won the FA Cup after a 1-0 win over Stoke City.

 Just like in the semifinal, Touré is the hero of the day.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 14-05-2011, 18:05:03
Other than that, Silly Season is really coming along now.

Rumors says that Roma is looking for Tottenhams Brazilian midfielder Sandro.

I really hope Tottenham won't let him go, he's so young and so good and also strong as hell.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 14-05-2011, 20:05:02
(http://gfx.aftonbladet-cdn.se/image/13027675/800/normal/4758aa714e1ad/zlatan.jpg)

60 000 Milan fans with Zlatan & Co.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Eglaerinion on 15-05-2011, 13:05:00
Germany beaten 5-2 and European Champion under 17!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33lqYhXr_2g
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 15-05-2011, 14:05:01
Becks still got it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkiaL7hfSvk
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Eglaerinion on 15-05-2011, 16:05:20
AJAX CHAMPIONS!!!! 30TH league title!!! Best day in a long while.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 15-05-2011, 19:05:28
Liverpool vs Tottenham, 0-2.

 Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over. I couldn't see the game but still. What the fuck?

Europa League, here we come. I don't want this.

C'mon Birmingham, home of Black Sabbath. Beat us at WHL and we can focus on the 4th place next season and the FA Cup.

And also, congratulations to Ajax!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 15-05-2011, 19:05:31
Liverpool vs Tottenham, 0-2.

 Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, over. I couldn't see the game but still. What the fuck?

Europa League, here we come. I don't want this.

C'mon Birmingham, home of Black Sabbath. Beat us at WHL and we can focus on the 4th place next season and the FA Cup.

And also, congratulations to Ajax!

Van der Vaart with the deflected opener followed by Modric with an assist from Howard Webb.

Liverpool with all the possession, couldn't take chances. No real quality on display other than Modric and Suarez.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 15-05-2011, 20:05:13
Would be nice to see a Juventus v Tottenham in next Europa league :D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 15-05-2011, 20:05:01
Would be nice to see a Juventus v Tottenham in next Europa league :D
Hell yeah, I can even put on my Juventus shirt and my Tottenham shirt as well :)

I got the classic Juventus shirt with Zidane on the back and Sony MiniDisc logo on the front, good ol' days where did ye go...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 15-05-2011, 21:05:20
El Superclásico now beign played, with Boca beating River 2-0.

Meh.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Smiles on 17-05-2011, 11:05:01
Ajax!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Pr0z4c on 18-05-2011, 14:05:25
FC Groningen!!!  ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xZD7U8FJ-4


Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 21-05-2011, 23:05:32
Pirlo, left Milan after 10 Years since he signed for them.

Now, with Transfers going on, Juve Signed Michel Bastos and they will probably sign Pirlo.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 22-05-2011, 12:05:15
Survival Sunday!

Who will exit Premier League and who will stay?

The fate of many clubs will be decided.

This is how the setup is

Blackburn
- If they win, they are safe.
- If it's a draw and all the other teams win, it's goodbye Premier League
- If they lose and two other teams in this bottom fight win it's also goodbye

Wolves
- If they win, they are safe.
- Draw and two other teams win, it's goodbye
- Lose and two other teams in the bottom fight win, goodbye.

Birmingham
- Win equals safe
- Draw, if Blackpool and Wigan wins and Wolves doesn't lose with more then two goals it's goodbye
- Lose and Blackpool and Wigan wins their games it's also goodbye

Wigan
- If they win, and Birmingham and Blackpool don't or if they amount of goals is bigger in this game they are safe
- Draw and Birmingham and Blackpool loses, Wigan is then safe.
- If they lose, and Birmingham and Blackpool as well the amount of goals the team lost with is the key factor


Todays games

Fulham FC - Arsenal FC

Everton FC - Chelsea FC

Newcastle United - West Bromwich Albion

Tottenham Hotspur - Birmingham City

West Ham United - Sunderland

Stoke City - Wigan Athletic

Aston Villa - Liverpool FC

Wolverhampton Wanderers - Blackburn Rovers

Manchester United - Blackpool FC

Bolton Wanderers - Manchester City

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 22-05-2011, 17:05:24
1. Manch.U  -Blackpool  1-1      
2. Aston V. -Liverpool  1-0    
3. Bolton   -Manch.C    0-0      
4. Everton  -Chelsea    0-0      
5. Fulham   -Arsenal    1-1        
6. Newcastle-West Brom  1-0      
7. Stoke    -Wigan      0-0      
8. Tottenham-Birmingh.  0-0      
9. West Ham -Sunderl.   0-1      
10. Wolverh. -Blackburn  0-2        

45 minutes to go...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 22-05-2011, 19:05:42
Manch.U  -Blackpool  4-2     
Aston V. -Liverpool  1-0     
Bolton   -Manch.C    0-2       
Everton  -Chelsea    1-0     
Fulham   -Arsenal    2-2       
Newcastle-West Brom  3-3       
Stoke    -Wigan      0-1       
Tottenham-Birmingh.  2-1     
West Ham -Sunderl.   0-3       
Wolverh. -Blackburn  2-3       

The end is here. Congratulations Manchester United and we hope to see Blackpool, West Ham and Birmingham again in the Premier League someday.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 23-05-2011, 01:05:29
glad to see Blackburn made it. Too bad though that West Ham and Birmingham got degraded, they both belong in PL.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 24-05-2011, 19:05:39
glad to see Blackburn made it. Too bad though that West Ham and Birmingham got degraded, they both belong in PL
And especially West Ham, lets just pray they can return to PL when they have their new Olympic stadium
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 25-05-2011, 03:05:29
And Andrea Pirlo signed a 3 Year Contract with Juventus.

Welcome to the Vecchia Signora Master!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: MrDanks on 25-05-2011, 03:05:22
Im sad Chelsea came in Second. Goodbye Ancelloti!

Lampard is my man though
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 28-05-2011, 16:05:25
(http://www.football-marketing.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/champions-league-wembley-final.jpg)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 28-05-2011, 16:05:22
Yay final!

Juventus Signed Gökhan Inler and Reto Ziegler.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Thorondor123 on 28-05-2011, 16:05:42
Glory glory Man United,
As the Reds go marching on on on!

Just like the Busby babes in days gone by,
We'll keep the red flags flying high,
You're gonna see us all from far and wide,
You're gonna hear the masses sing with pride.

United, Man united,
We're the boys in red and we're on our way to Wembley!

Wembley, Wembley,
We're the famous Man united and we're going to Wembley!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 28-05-2011, 19:05:32
I don't like united. But tonight i'll cheer for them as if they were AIK.

This will be amazing.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 28-05-2011, 19:05:32
I hate Barcelona and I hate United but still, I'm rooting for United as well tonight

Barcelona, go fuck yourself.

Bet made on that United wins in the extended period
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 28-05-2011, 19:05:35
Sorry guys, Barcelona will win the cup for the 3rd time tonight. I'd like to see a nice last game for Van der Sar, though. So I hope Ferguson will give Van der Sar a rest after 85 minutes and then Barcelona scores after that. So Van der Sar can leave with a clean sheet :)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 28-05-2011, 19:05:59
I hate Barcelona and I hate United but still, I'm rooting for United as well tonight

Barcelona, go fuck yourself.

Bet made on that United wins in the extended period
Hear hear.

Placed a that Fabio will get at least one card (yellow or red) and that united will win in the first 90 minutes (double the odds than having them winning after extra-time)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 28-05-2011, 20:05:58
No Johnny Evans or John O'Shea tonight. I bet Messi is breathing a sigh of relief  ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 28-05-2011, 20:05:21
Go Barça!

Well, i wish Barça wins because of Mascherano and Messi, the rest can go to hell, especially Villa.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 28-05-2011, 23:05:02
Yay! Barcelona European Champions!

First half it was a good game, exciting. Second half Manchester wasn't able to set up a good attack, it was almost only Barcelona. I'm sad voor Van der Sar, he was our best goalkeeper ever, but I'm glad that Barcelona won CL, they were the best.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 28-05-2011, 23:05:40
Men against boys, well played Barcelona what a performance! Mes Que Un Club!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Thorondor123 on 28-05-2011, 23:05:54
Balls.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 29-05-2011, 00:05:02
Not the best Retire for Van der Sar, great GK, he will be missed!

Good job Sir Fergurson for his Campaign on Premier League and UCL.

Grats Barça, Long Live Messi!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 29-05-2011, 00:05:42
Fuck.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: SiCaRiO on 29-05-2011, 00:05:08
VisÇa Barça!! =D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 29-05-2011, 01:05:10
Fun fact.

Excluding the final
Barcelona hasn't won one game in this years CL Playoffs against a team that have had 11 players on the pitch for 90 minutes.

That's 5 games out of 6 the opposing team has had 1 player less.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 29-05-2011, 01:05:22
Fun fact.

Excluding the final
Barcelona hasn't won one game in this years CL Playoffs against a team that have had 11 players on the pitch for 90 minutes.

That's 5 games out of 6 the opposing team has had 1 player less.


United could have had 22 players on the pitch and they still wouldn't have got near Barca tonight.

Totally schooled.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 29-05-2011, 03:05:37
United got Pwnd

They lost because they dont know how to deal with Barça, end of story.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 29-05-2011, 03:05:11
United dealt with them through the first half...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 29-05-2011, 04:05:14
CPS just made some monies on betting with dumb kids at school who thought that Barcelona was going to lose.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 29-05-2011, 09:05:29
Well played, Barcelona.

But I still hate you.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Smiles on 29-05-2011, 13:05:06
All those funny Barca haters lol, Man U got outclassed, just like all the other teams. Barca deserved nothing less, maybe a copa more though.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 29-05-2011, 14:05:46
Fun fact:

Out of 6 matches Barcelona played in the CL playoffs, in only one a team didn't need to make fauls which were so severe a player had to be sent off. That's 5 out of 6 matches where the opponent of Barcelona had to resort to kicking down Barcelona players.

Lesson for RM: instead of pointing fingers and inventing conspiracy theories , check out the way you "play" and the way Man United played yesterday.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 29-05-2011, 14:05:04
I never liked Real Madrid.

The "el galactico" is just a superstar players collector, not a real sports team. Perhaps Florentino Pérez has too much money, for the team to be serious about picking less costly alternative.

Luís Figo once said "La Liga is harder than Champions league" on the basis that the team dominates the latter, while suck at La Liga. Why? Because there were Deportivo La Coruña, Valencia, and BARCELONA at that time. He had the guts to utter that out because he had Zidane, Beckham, and Raúl González besides him. Like every desktop football managers, he thought by having all the world stars in the team, this should be the end of it, and Real will dominate the world. What a douche from this point of view!

I liked Barca because they were underdog, with them, they elevate Rivaldo, Eto'o, Ronaldinho, and now Messi, not just buying players like picking them when it is ripe, or must I say, a parasite-kind like.

Mourinho is another Figo in coaching world. By picking top-of-the-league teams, he managed to grab many achievements and bragged too many times about it. Let him coach Portugal and see how much he would fare in the world competition. We know Guus Hiddink because he coached underdog team like South Korea onto world cup semifinal despite controversies, and again with Russia to the Euro semifinal. But nevermind Mourinho, he'd probably choose to coach Brazil or Germany in this stage.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Eglaerinion on 29-05-2011, 15:05:35
Would have rather seen a final between Barca and Arsenal. Arsenal was the only team who really challenged Barca, Barca needed some serious mistakes from the referee to win that game.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 29-05-2011, 15:05:23
Mourinho is another Figo in coaching world. By picking top-of-the-league teams, he managed to grab many achievements and bragged too many times about it. Let him coach Portugal and see how much he would fare in the world competition. We know Guus Hiddink because he coached underdog team like South Korea onto world cup semifinal despite controversies, and again with Russia to the Euro semifinal. But nevermind Mourinho, he'd probably choose to coach Brazil or Germany in this stage.
I don't like Mourinho either, but at least once he has done a great job: win CL with Porto. That was a nice achievement.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Arc_Shielder on 29-05-2011, 16:05:55

 Barcelona aren't exactly angels and a role-model at the sport though. Certainly the best team of the world, but Busquet, Mascherano, Valdés among others are one of the most dirty vicious and arrogant players I have seen in my lifetime. There are inclusive official Messi stories that strongly depict his arrogance but I'll leave it at that.

 I have a deep belief that Mourinho will dethrone Barcelona next season. He will need a 2nd season to shape the team to his image like in the case of Internazionale.

 However if he does fail, then that's going to be a deep stab at his reputation.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 29-05-2011, 16:05:58
Yeah, someone has gotta do that, a great team that stays at the top for too long is a great team no more outside the competition.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 29-05-2011, 17:05:55

 Barcelona aren't exactly angels and a role-model at the sport though. Certainly the best team of the world, but Busquet, Mascherano, Valdés among others are one of the most dirty vicious and arrogant players I have seen in my lifetime. There are inclusive official Messi stories that strongly depict his arrogance but I'll leave it at that.

 I have a deep belief that Mourinho will dethrone Barcelona next season. He will need a 2nd season to shape the team to his image like in the case of Internazionale.

 However if he does fail, then that's going to be a deep stab at his reputation.

LMFAO, Mascherano dirty?

I Mean really? He's not dirty bro, he's a Fighter. A good one, he doesnt give a shit if hes gonna get a Yellow or Red, he's going to get that ball outta there, its his Job. No dirty play man.

Cant find any players like Masche, perhaps Lass who fights for every ball in his area, Pirlo/Gattuso, Felipe Melo and a few other Midfielders.

How many Matches with Mascherano you seen? 2? Ever seen Argentina - Brazil last year (November ithink, Friendly, Ronaldinhos Comeback) HE WAS GOD. Ronaldinho couldnt go trough, not even Lil'Cryin'Baby aka Neymar could do it, who had to dive in order to win a Freekick. He's a fucking wall, using force and skills to defend.

Talking too much... Barça owes alot to Masche (Barça/Arsenal, saved their asses), Hes not dirty hes a Fighter, and theres a big difference between the two terms. (Dirty= Materazzi, Fighter= Mascherano)

Have a nice day.


Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Arc_Shielder on 29-05-2011, 17:05:57
 
 Actually I do remember a few cases but they're all recent, so I will withdraw and accept they must of been isolated incidents. I do agree that I could of pointed out other names like Daniel Alves for that matter.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 29-05-2011, 19:05:10
@Zoo

2 years ago i hated real madrid and cheered for barcelona. I hated real madrid because of that very reason: they just buy superstars.

I don't love real madrid, I don't even like them. In fact, i do kind of dislike them. It is my hatred for barcelona that makes me "like" real madrid.

I even liked barcelona last year, thought that was only because Zlatan played there.



One thing I do not understand is why do mourinho and real madrid recieve SO many complaints after these 4 el clasicos, simply because they played "defensively and boring football".
Seriously, WHAT?
I won't deny, third game was incredibly boring. BUT
How can anyone ask real madrid to play their own offensive game against barcelona? Last time they tried that they got beat with 5-0, i've never seen such dominance as in that game.
Then mourinho turns to a new tactic, and he manages, as the only team in the world this year (except the surprises of hercules and, was it deportivo?) to actually stop barcelonas offense and even win a game!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 29-05-2011, 20:05:23
No, I don't complaint about that, that was a typical reactive move by Mourinho (which he should have done). I actually kinda dislike the play Barca showed there (like Dani Alves diving or just saving his foot from imminent strike from Pepe?). Aggressive move aside, that match wasn't as flawed or ridden with conspiracy jobs or anything.

But see this (especially against Barca part):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRiKfAFb6sQ

I dislike both of them (RM and Mourinho) from the historical point of view, not that particular match against Barcelona. I actually kinda happy that someone put a stop to that so-called tiki-taka football.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 30-05-2011, 22:05:45
Silly season is breaking me down slowly, as a Spurs fan this might even get FUBAR

Latest news? We can't find a striker and instead we went looking for a goalkeeper and we found...

A 40 year old goalkeeper named Brad Friedel, currently playing in Aston Villa.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 30-05-2011, 22:05:37
Hehe yeah, hope there's not much truth in that rumor.

Also heard rumors about Lloris though, that would be awesome.

Spurs have put a bid on Falcao (arsenal too), would be a really interesting transfer.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 30-05-2011, 22:05:15
Spurs got so much money but it feels like we ain't that attractive without the Champions League ticket.

 I pray that we at least make a "VDV" like transfer in the last minute this Silly Season as well :D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 30-05-2011, 23:05:49
Silly season is breaking me down slowly, as a Spurs fan this might even get FUBAR

Latest news? We can't find a striker and instead we went looking for a goalkeeper and we found...

A 40 year old goalkeeper named Brad Friedel, currently playing in Aston Villa.


Even at 40 Brad Friedel is ten times the keeper Gomes is. Would be a good signing on a free.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 31-05-2011, 00:05:30
Silly season is breaking me down slowly, as a Spurs fan this might even get FUBAR

Latest news? We can't find a striker and instead we went looking for a goalkeeper and we found...

A 40 year old goalkeeper named Brad Friedel, currently playing in Aston Villa.


Even at 40 Brad Friedel is ten times the keeper Gomes is. Would be a good signing on a free.
At his best, gomes is absolute world-class. Though it's hard to find a keeper that is as uneven as he is.

I might very well be mistaken, but Friedels contract is still for next season, so he won't be a free transfer, right?
When getting a new goalkeeper I say go for a long-term keeper immidiately. Friedel would be a most temporary solution.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 31-05-2011, 00:05:39
Silly season is breaking me down slowly, as a Spurs fan this might even get FUBAR

Latest news? We can't find a striker and instead we went looking for a goalkeeper and we found...

A 40 year old goalkeeper named Brad Friedel, currently playing in Aston Villa.


Even at 40 Brad Friedel is ten times the keeper Gomes is. Would be a good signing on a free.
At his best, gomes is absolute world-class. Though it's hard to find a keeper that is as uneven as he is.

I might very well be mistaken, but Friedels contract is still for next season, so he won't be a free transfer, right?
When getting a new goalkeeper I say go for a long-term keeper immidiately. Friedel would be a most temporary solution.

Best thing to have about a keeper is consistancy. Gomes is simply too unreliable at times, which can effect the confidence of the defence.

Friedel rejected a 12 month contract extension with Villa so looks like he's definitely leaving. Not sure if his contact is up, but even with a year left on it he would be very very cheap.

I'm not sure why Tottenham would want him though seeing as they have the cash to go for a younger, more promising keeper.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 31-05-2011, 09:05:55
Harry Redknapp confirms that everything has a price, even when it comes to Gareth Bale and Luka Modric.

Fuck my life.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 31-05-2011, 10:05:21
Harry Redknapp confirms that everything has a price, even when it comes to Gareth Bale and Luka Modric.

Fuck my life.


Horrible to lose your best players but you're looking around at least £75 million for the pair. Not bad seeing as 'Arry likes to build his squads in depth.

I would be more gutted about losing Modric than Bale. He runs the midfield in almost every game I've ever watched him. What a player.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 31-05-2011, 19:05:47
@ Zoo: ?? I don't get it (your post + the YT clip)

@ Ted: why do you hate Barca so much?

I think we all could see the difference between Barca last Saturday and Barca when they played vs RM. Two different ways of playing. I think Barca and RM just evoke the worst in each other which is a damn shame, as they can both play nice and attractive football, but because they hate each other so much, they are not going to.

About arrogance: it is arrogance when you are acting like you are the best while you aren't. In this case, we can safely say that not Barcelona is arrogant, but Mourinho. But then again, it is part of his "act".
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 31-05-2011, 20:05:09
I'll quote myself to answer that.

Erhm, no. Barca definitely didn't butcher Arsenal. I'd say it was 55/45, in favor of barca.

I used to love barcelona, 2 years ago. Real Madrid was the worst team I could think about. That has all changed, I hate Barcelona with a passion, and here's why:

First and foremost;
Watch for example Barcelona vs Racing Santander, or any team below the top 5 in spain. That's NOT entertaining football. Possession is 65/35 and they win with 4-0. The other team never even stands a chance. No suspense at all. In that aspect, Barcelona is the most boring team to watch, I'd much rather watch Dundee United against Hearts in scotland.

Second
Barcelona is the best club in the world. I'd have to agree on that, but it comes at a cost.
I'm a passionate football fan, at the moment I live and breathe football. But Barcelona has a false reputation of being humble and nice. Ask anyone who doesn't know SQUAT about football, can you guess what their favourite team is? Barcelona. then you ask them "who plays in barcelona?" they say "Messi", but that's all they know, they have NO idea about anything except that "barcelona is the best team, messi best player". As a football fan I find that a bit offensive.

Third
Their attitude. Yes they are the best at the moment, but there is a limit as to how superior you can act.
Exhibit A; Fabregas. Sure you may say that "every team plays dirty when it comes to transfer", but I can never imagine anyone being this dirty. All the spanish players call out to him "He should play here", and putting words in his mouth by saying "This is his dreamclub, he wants to play here". They are so fucking disrespectful towards the Arsenal fans.
Just the day before yesterday, do you know what Barcelonas former president (who quit this summer) said? He said that "It's not fair that Arsenal won't let fabregas go. This is his home, he belongs here. It's only fair that we get him". WHAT THE FUCK is up with that? Messi, where's he from? I Think Barcelona should give David Villa back to valencia (who in turn should give him back to Sporting Gijon). Football doesn't work that way!
I admire Wenger though, giving a clear No to them.

Fourth
As I'm swedish; Zlatan. He plays really good, but then they push him away (Probably Zlatan who pushed Barca away though). After only a year they sell him for half the price. Now he probably wanted to leave, but they handled it all so bad.

Main reason: It's boring to watch them. They are really really good (no doubt the best team in the world), but I find no enjoyment in watching such beautiful football if there is no suspense.
I want blood, toil, tears and sweat. I want a game where both sides has chances to score.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 31-05-2011, 20:05:46
@Slayer

In that YouTube clip (earlier part, never mind the rest), you can see how much off-the-field competition were brought to the field, like that Ronaldo pushing Guardiola, and several RM players make a fuss with Barca players. Anybody who seen that display of unsportsmanlike behavior shouldn't say any morale point-of-view when discussing RM vs Barca match, like "Barca is being backed by international football conspiracy" "they play dirty outside the field", etc... I'm pretty tired with that baseless accusations. That controversy when Dani Alves dived against Pepe's tackle.

Yeah, Barca went through the round with every of their opponents at least one man down, except the final. Coincidence? Paul the octopus prediction of WC2010 matches went almost 100% true? Similar coincidence?

You might get confused with my statement of "being happy because RM stopped their tiki-taka at Copa Del Rey", Well... I liked Barca as a team, but I don't really like their playing style, flurry of short passes so-called tiki-taka. That thing relies heavily on dominating the ball possession, which means Barca dictates every game they played if they really wanted to win the game.

@Ted

I just can't hate Barca more than RM, just like your first reasoning. That's exactly what Real Madrid has been trying really hard to do, while displaying the level of arrogance shown in your third reason. My approval for Spain as a world champion is very low due to this. I rather have the dirty-playing Dutch to win.

The second thing is typical geek's hipster culture, always want to be unique, underground, yet cool and hip. I can't blame that, it's prevalent in FH community. People have been saying that my aviation hobby doesn't attract girls, but football... girls have been tried so hard in front of their boys to show that they have the passion for it too.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 31-05-2011, 21:05:12
OK, interesting. Of course you don't have to read what a complete (or somewhat complete) stranger has to write about this, but here is what I think of it:

1) I understand, but this is the case in almost all national leagues. When you're gonna watch PSV or Ajax  playing a low classified club, you will see the same. There are rare occasions where a low classified team surprises the better team, like Hercules did this year in Camp Nou.

2) Don't understand this one. Why be offended by ignorant people? Just ignore them. I think it is stupid to hate a club because of what other people say about them. Kind of weird conclusion you jump to, there.

3) Their attitude is not ideal, but when you give exhibit A, I must tell you that several English clubs (Chelsea, Manchester U and C, Arsenal, etc) have broken laws in order to contract players who were 14, 15 or 16 years old at the signing of the contract. They just lured them away from the clubs who trained them all those years. Apart from that and its illegality, I think it is immoral. This way the English clubs, who are already battling megadebts, are weakening national competitions in other countries, while reenforcing their own, which isn't needed. And: most of these youngsters don't make it and then have lost their chance to show what they can do before their homepublic. This happens every year and only occasionally comes out in the open. Yes, Barcelona has an attitude which of course can be a lot better, but imo it is way better than stealing boys from overseas. At least they were asking Fabregas, and Fabregas was raised and trained by themselves. About Messi: he came to Spain when he was 12 years old and was raised and trained by Barcelona from then on. I think we can safely say that he is almost 100% homegrown.

4) Zlatan didn't fit into the team, he plays his best football in Italy, so it was the best solution for all if Zlatan would go back to Italy. I also read some rumours about Eto'o forcing Barcelona to get Zlatan to change clubs with him, but I'm not sure if I should believe that.

5) Main reason: OK, I understand. I can enjoy beautiful football even without goals, but that is a matter of taste. About tension: other teams will find a way to battle Barcelona and they will win someday. I just hope it is not the Mourinho way, as I was about to gauge my eyes out after the ugliest game in history (Barcelona-Inter 2010).


@ Zoo: OK, I get it, thanks for explaining :)

If anyone is interested in why Real Madrid and Barcelona hate each other so much, please delve into Spanish history. Read the paragraphs about Catalonia carefully, especially the Civil War and the Fascist regime parts.

My approval for Spain as a world champion is very low due to this. I rather have the dirty-playing Dutch to win.
Eeehm, so now the Dutch are dirty-playing? Have you seen any other match of them than the final last WC? I was astonished by the level of dirtyness displayed by my team back then, because they never do that and haven't done it since. I blame two things: tension/nerves because of being in the final of the WC after 30+ years AND (and now haters are gonna hate me) because Spain was doing it too. Yes, non-believers, Vicente Del Bosque himself admitted in August that it was a tough match by his team too.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 31-05-2011, 23:05:21
The whole Harry Redknapp and Spurs letting go off both Bale and Modric is turning a bit strange

Now Redknapp is denying everything and Modric goes something like: I like White Hart Lane and the fans and the club but if a deal with both my club and myself can agree on...

I pray to Superman, John Wayne and Frank Sinatra that we won't let Bale or Modric leave.

(I'm really praying)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 01-06-2011, 13:06:36
The whole Harry Redknapp and Spurs letting go off both Bale and Modric is turning a bit strange

Now Redknapp is denying everything and Modric goes something like: I like White Hart Lane and the fans and the club but if a deal with both my club and myself can agree on...

I pray to Superman, John Wayne and Frank Sinatra that we won't let Bale or Modric leave.

(I'm really praying)

Harry is a master at playing the media/keeping them in the dark whilst things are happening in the background.

Your never really going to get an insight into his thoughts from his media releases.

Also, Torres pretty much up until the last few hours before his transfer denied he wanted to leave Liverpool. We all know how that turned out  >:(

Losing Modric would be a disaster for Spurs though. He is their best player by a mile!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 01-06-2011, 17:06:34
Ye, Spurs without Modric ain't Spurs at this point.

And I agree on 'Arry and his media routine but still, I don't like it one bit.

But I also pray for a real "Wheelin' and dealing" this season! :)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 01-06-2011, 23:06:20
Nigeria 4 - 1 Argentina.

What?

U-25 Argentine players just got pwned by Nigeria.


Alarming, few of them will take part of the upcoming Copa America, but damn!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 02-06-2011, 19:06:51
Ye, Spurs without Modric ain't Spurs at this point.

And I agree on 'Arry and his media routine but still, I don't like it one bit.

But I also pray for a real "Wheelin' and dealing" this season! :)

Lol Harry has had some brilliant moments in the press

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJBsI7RAuvk
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 02-06-2011, 19:06:55
Nigeria 4 - 1 Argentina.

What?

U-25 Argentine players just got pwned by Nigeria.


Alarming, few of them will take part of the upcoming Copa America, but damn!


Now they will be pwned by Poland too!

Nah, joking...  ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 02-06-2011, 23:06:07
Oh yes they will!

Argentina has three "major" national teams.

One wich is going to play Copa America and played the WC (tevez, messi, di maria, heinze, to name a few), a Local one with Local football starts (Pillud, Yacob, Hauche, Mouche, Carrizo) and a 3rd one , Argentina B with U25 players that play in Europe, somehow, UNKOWN players.

Playing against a african power.

I bet we lose against Poland. We cant play with that team.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 09-06-2011, 23:06:11
Hah, we won with Argentina!  ;D But it was 3rd or 4th team  :P Even 1 guy from our league played there  :P


Nah, and today Frenchies won with us... After own goal...  ::) We should have made at least a drawn...  ::)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 17-06-2011, 16:06:18
The dates for the upcoming 2011/2011 season in the Premier League are now set!

First round:

Blackburn - Wolverhampton
Fulham - Aston Villa
Liverpool - Sunderland
Man City - Swansea
Newcastle - Arsenal
QPR - Bolton
Stoke - Chelsea
Tottenham - Everton
West Brom - Man United
Wigan - Norwich

Some really heavy games right at the start for the bigger teams

Rest of the list:

Arsenal - Liverpool
Aston Villa - Blackburn Rovers
Bolton Wanderers - Manchester City
Chelsea - West Bromwich Albion
Everton - Queens Park Rangers
Manchester United - Tottenham Hotspur
Norwich City - Stoke City
Sunderland - Newcastle United
Swansea City - Wigan Athletic
Wolverhampton Wanderers - Fulham


Aston Villa - Wolverhampton Wanderers
Blackburn Rovers - Everton
Chelsea - Norwich City
Liverpool - Bolton Wanderers
Manchester United - Arsenal
Newcastle United - Fulham
Swansea City - Sunderland
Tottenham Hotspur - Manchester City
West Bromwich Albion - Stoke City
Wigan Athletic - Queens Park Rangers


Arsenal - Swansea City
Bolton Wanderers - Manchester United
Everton - Aston Villa
Fulham - Blackburn Rovers
Manchester City - Wigan Athletic
Norwich City - West Bromwich Albion
Queens Park Rangers - Newcastle United
Stoke City - Liverpool
Sunderland - Chelsea
Wolverhampton Wanderers - Tottenham Hotspur


Aston Villa - Newcastle United
Blackburn Rovers - Arsenal
Bolton Wanderers - Norwich City
Everton - Wigan Athletic
Fulham - Manchester City
Manchester United - Chelsea
Sunderland - Stoke City
Swansea City - West Bromwich Albion
Tottenham Hotspur - Liverpool
Wolverhampton Wanderers - Queens Park Rangers


Arsenal - Bolton Wanderers
Chelsea - Swansea City
Liverpool - Wolverhampton Wanderers
Manchester City - Everton
Newcastle United - Blackburn Rovers
Norwich City - Sunderland
Queens Park Rangers - Aston Villa
Stoke City - Manchester United
West Bromwich Albion - Fulham
Wigan Athletic - Tottenham Hotspur


Aston Villa - Wigan Athletic
Blackburn Rovers - Manchester City
Bolton Wanderers - Chelsea
Everton - Liverpool
Fulham - Queens Park Rangers
Manchester United - Norwich City
Sunderland - West Bromwich Albion
Swansea City - Stoke City
Tottenham Hotspur - Arsenal
Wolverhampton Wanderers - Newcastle United


Arsenal - Sunderland
Chelsea - Everton
Liverpool - Manchester United
Manchester City - Aston Villa
Newcastle United - Tottenham Hotspur
Norwich City - Swansea City
Queens Park Rangers - Blackburn Rovers
Stoke City - Fulham
West Bromwich Albion - Wolverhampton Wanderers
Wigan Athletic - Bolton Wanderers


Arsenal - Stoke City
Aston Villa - West Bromwich Albion
Blackburn Rovers - Tottenham Hotspur
Bolton Wanderers - Sunderland
Fulham - Everton
Liverpool - Norwich City
Manchester United - Manchester City
Newcastle United - Wigan Athletic
Queens Park Rangers - Chelsea
Wolverhampton Wanderers - Swansea City


Chelsea - Arsenal
Everton - Manchester United
Manchester City - Wolverhampton Wanderers
Norwich City - Blackburn Rovers
Stoke City - Newcastle United
Sunderland - Aston Villa
Swansea City - Bolton Wanderers
Tottenham Hotspur - Queens Park Rangers
West Bromwich Albion - Liverpool
Wigan Athletic - Fulham


Arsenal - West Bromwich Albion
Aston Villa - Norwich City
Blackburn Rovers - Chelsea
Bolton Wanderers - Stoke City
Fulham - Tottenham Hotspur
Liverpool - Swansea City
Manchester United - Sunderland
Newcastle United - Everton
Queens Park Rangers - Manchester City
Wolverhampton Wanderers - Wigan Athletic


Chelsea - Liverpool
Everton - Wolverhampton Wanderers
Manchester City - Newcastle United
Norwich City - Arsenal
Stoke City - Queens Park Rangers
Sunderland - Fulham
Swansea City - Manchester United
Tottenham Hotspur - Aston Villa
West Bromwich Albion - Bolton Wanderers
Wigan Athletic - Blackburn Rovers


Arsenal - Fulham
Bolton Wanderers - Everton
Chelsea - Wolverhampton Wanderers
Liverpool - Manchester City
Manchester United - Newcastle United
Norwich City - Queens Park Rangers
Stoke City - Blackburn Rovers
Sunderland - Wigan Athletic
Swansea City - Aston Villa
West Bromwich Albion - Tottenham Hotspur


Aston Villa - Manchester United
Blackburn Rovers - Swansea City
Everton - Stoke City
Fulham - Liverpool
Manchester City - Norwich City
Newcastle United - Chelsea
Queens Park Rangers - West Bromwich Albion
Tottenham Hotspur - Bolton Wanderers
Wigan Athletic - Arsenal
Wolverhampton Wanderers - Sunderland


Arsenal - Everton
Bolton Wanderers - Aston Villa
Chelsea - Manchester City
Liverpool - Queens Park Rangers
Manchester United - Wolverhampton Wanderers
Norwich City - Newcastle United
Stoke City - Tottenham Hotspur
Sunderland - Blackburn Rovers
Swansea City - Fulham
West Bromwich Albion - Wigan Athletic


Aston Villa - Liverpool
Blackburn Rovers - West Bromwich Albion
Everton - Norwich City
Fulham - Bolton Wanderers
Manchester City - Arsenal
Newcastle United - Swansea City
Queens Park Rangers - Manchester United
Tottenham Hotspur - Sunderland
Wigan Athletic - Chelsea
Wolverhampton Wanderers - Stoke City


Queens Park Rangers - Sunderland
Tottenham Hotspur - Chelsea
Wigan Athletic - Liverpool
Wolverhampton Wanderers - Norwich City


Aston Villa - Arsenal
Blackburn Rovers - Bolton Wanderers
Everton - Swansea City
Fulham - Manchester United
Manchester City - Stoke City
Newcastle United - West Bromwich Albion


Arsenal - Wolverhampton Wanderers
Bolton Wanderers - Newcastle United
Chelsea - Fulham
Liverpool - Blackburn Rovers
Manchester United - Wigan Athletic
Norwich City - Tottenham Hotspur
Stoke City - Aston Villa
Sunderland - Everton
Swansea City - Queens Park Rangers
West Bromwich Albion - Manchester City


Arsenal - Queens Park Rangers
Bolton Wanderers - Wolverhampton Wanderers
Chelsea - Aston Villa
Liverpool - Newcastle United
Manchester United - Blackburn Rovers
Norwich City - Fulham
Stoke City - Wigan Athletic
Sunderland - Manchester City
Swansea City - Tottenham Hotspur
West Bromwich Albion - Everton


Aston Villa - Swansea City
Blackburn Rovers - Stoke City
Everton - Bolton Wanderers
Fulham - Arsenal
Manchester City - Liverpool
Newcastle United - Manchester United
Queens Park Rangers - Norwich City
Tottenham Hotspur - West Bromwich Albion
Wigan Athletic - Sunderland
Wolverhampton Wanderers - Chelsea


Aston Villa - Everton
Blackburn Rovers - Fulham
Chelsea - Sunderland
Liverpool - Stoke City
Manchester United - Bolton Wanderers
Newcastle United - Queens Park Rangers
Swansea City - Arsenal
Tottenham Hotspur - Wolverhampton Wanderers
West Bromwich Albion - Norwich City
Wigan Athletic - Manchester City


Arsenal - Manchester United
Bolton Wanderers - Liverpool
Everton - Blackburn Rovers
Fulham - Newcastle United
Manchester City - Tottenham Hotspur
Norwich City - Chelsea
Queens Park Rangers - Wigan Athletic
Stoke City - West Bromwich Albion
Sunderland - Swansea City
Wolverhampton Wanderers - Aston Villa


Bolton Wanderers - Arsenal
Manchester United - Stoke City
Sunderland - Norwich City
Swansea City - Chelsea
Tottenham Hotspur - Wigan Athletic
Wolverhampton Wanderers - Liverpool


Aston Villa - Queens Park Rangers
Blackburn Rovers - Newcastle United
Everton - Manchester City
Fulham - West Bromwich Albion


Arsenal - Blackburn Rovers
Chelsea - Manchester United
Liverpool - Tottenham Hotspur
Manchester City - Fulham
Newcastle United - Aston Villa
Norwich City - Bolton Wanderers
Queens Park Rangers - Wolverhampton Wanderers
Stoke City - Sunderland
West Bromwich Albion - Swansea City
Wigan Athletic - Everton


Aston Villa - Manchester City
Blackburn Rovers - Queens Park Rangers
Bolton Wanderers - Wigan Athletic
Everton - Chelsea
Fulham - Stoke City
Manchester United - Liverpool
Sunderland - Arsenal
Swansea City - Norwich City
Tottenham Hotspur - Newcastle United
Wolverhampton Wanderers - West Bromwich Albion


Arsenal - Tottenham Hotspur
Chelsea - Bolton Wanderers
Liverpool - Everton
Manchester City - Blackburn Rovers
Newcastle United - Wolverhampton Wanderers
Norwich City - Manchester United
Queens Park Rangers - Fulham
Stoke City - Swansea City
West Bromwich Albion - Sunderland
Wigan Athletic - Aston Villa


Blackburn Rovers - Aston Villa
Fulham - Wolverhampton Wanderers
Liverpool - Arsenal
Manchester City - Bolton Wanderers
Newcastle United - Sunderland
Queens Park Rangers - Everton
Stoke City - Norwich City
Tottenham Hotspur - Manchester United
West Bromwich Albion - Chelsea
Wigan Athletic - Swansea City


Arsenal - Newcastle United
Aston Villa - Fulham
Bolton Wanderers - Queens Park Rangers
Chelsea - Stoke City
Everton - Tottenham Hotspur
Manchester United - West Bromwich Albion
Norwich City - Wigan Athletic
Sunderland - Liverpool
Swansea City - Manchester City
Wolverhampton Wanderers - Blackburn Rovers


Aston Villa - Bolton Wanderers
Blackburn Rovers - Sunderland
Everton - Arsenal
Fulham - Swansea City
Manchester City - Chelsea
Newcastle United - Norwich City
Queens Park Rangers - Liverpool
Tottenham Hotspur - Stoke City
Wigan Athletic - West Bromwich Albion
Wolverhampton Wanderers - Manchester United


Arsenal - Aston Villa
Bolton Wanderers - Blackburn Rovers
Chelsea - Tottenham Hotspur
Liverpool - Wigan Athletic
Manchester United - Fulham
Norwich City - Wolverhampton Wanderers
Stoke City - Manchester City
Sunderland - Queens Park Rangers
Swansea City - Everton
West Bromwich Albion - Newcastle United


Aston Villa - Chelsea
Blackburn Rovers - Manchester United
Everton - West Bromwich Albion
Fulham - Norwich City
Manchester City - Sunderland
Newcastle United - Liverpool
Queens Park Rangers - Arsenal
Tottenham Hotspur - Swansea City
Wigan Athletic - Stoke City
Wolverhampton Wanderers - Bolton Wanderers


Arsenal - Manchester City
Bolton Wanderers - Fulham
Chelsea - Wigan Athletic
Liverpool - Aston Villa
Manchester United - Queens Park Rangers
Norwich City - Everton
Stoke City - Wolverhampton Wanderers
Sunderland - Tottenham Hotspur
Swansea City - Newcastle United
West Bromwich Albion - Blackburn Rovers


Aston Villa - Stoke City
Blackburn Rovers - Liverpool
Everton - Sunderland
Fulham - Chelsea
Manchester City - West Bromwich Albion
Newcastle United - Bolton Wanderers
Queens Park Rangers - Swansea City
Tottenham Hotspur - Norwich City
Wigan Athletic - Manchester United
Wolverhampton Wanderers - Arsenal


Arsenal - Wigan Athletic
Bolton Wanderers - Tottenham Hotspur
Chelsea - Newcastle United
Liverpool - Fulham
Manchester United - Aston Villa
Norwich City - Manchester City
Stoke City - Everton
Sunderland - Wolverhampton Wanderers
Swansea City - Blackburn Rovers
West Bromwich Albion - Queens Park Rangers


Arsenal - Chelsea
Aston Villa - Sunderland
Blackburn Rovers - Norwich City
Bolton Wanderers - Swansea City
Fulham - Wigan Athletic
Liverpool - West Bromwich Albion
Manchester United - Everton
Newcastle United - Stoke City
Queens Park Rangers - Tottenham Hotspur
Wolverhampton Wanderers - Manchester City


Chelsea - Queens Park Rangers
Everton - Fulham
Manchester City - Manchester United
Norwich City - Liverpool
Stoke City - Arsenal
Sunderland - Bolton Wanderers
Swansea City - Wolverhampton Wanderers
Tottenham Hotspur - Blackburn Rovers
West Bromwich Albion - Aston Villa
Wigan Athletic - Newcastle United


Arsenal - Norwich City
Aston Villa - Tottenham Hotspur
Blackburn Rovers - Wigan Athletic
Bolton Wanderers - West Bromwich Albion
Fulham - Sunderland
Liverpool - Chelsea
Manchester United - Swansea City
Newcastle United - Manchester City
Queens Park Rangers - Stoke City
Wolverhampton Wanderers - Everton


Chelsea - Blackburn Rovers
Everton - Newcastle United
Manchester City - Queens Park Rangers
Norwich City - Aston Villa
Stoke City - Bolton Wanderers
Sunderland - Manchester United
Swansea City - Liverpool
Tottenham Hotspur - Fulham
West Bromwich Albion - Arsenal
Wigan Athletic - Wolverhampton Wanderer
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 17-06-2011, 19:06:17
Just wondering: why are you non-British guys so very interested in the Premier League? Don't you have a national league in your country?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 17-06-2011, 19:06:26
Just wondering: why are you non-British guys so very interested in the Premier League? Don't you have a national league in your country?
Well, in Sweden we have a very long tradition (starting in the 1960's) of following English football with a show called Tipsextra. That show is mainly the reason why so many PL clubs got fans in Sweden (and also now Championship clubs/League One clubs).

 But yeah, we got our own league as well but I think there are few leagues in the world that can top PL so...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 17-06-2011, 19:06:13
That's a pretty damn stupid question.


I follow Allsvenskan (swedish league). I could die for my team, AIK, the team in my heart.
I do follow AIK so much more than any team in the Premier League, want me to post about a league no one (except maybe Rawhide and other swedes) knows anything about?

Loving one league does not exclude the love and interest of another.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Thorondor123 on 17-06-2011, 20:06:23
Just wondering: why are you non-British guys so very interested in the Premier League? Don't you have a national league in your country?
Well... No.

I like the Premier League because I like English football. All the matches are more or less exiting, the team in the last place can defeat the top teams. Sunderland beating Chelsea 3 to 0 at Stamford Bridge, for example. That kind of stuff doesn't happen in La Liga diving championships, where the only matches that matter are those between Barcelona and Real Madrid.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 17-06-2011, 21:06:36
That's a pretty damn stupid question.
Ehm, sorry. I said it was just out of curiosity. I was not mocking anyone. I'm surprised to see a post like this by a person who hates a certain football team just because some ignorants/nitwits/non-connaisseurs say they like it. Talk about stupid.

@ Rawhide + Thor: OK, I get it. I think it is great that in PL the lowest ranked team can beat the nr 1. What I dislike, howwever, is that PL has become so popular around the world, it makes the clubs playing it superduper rich (because of the selling of TV rights in 3000 countries), which creates a huge unequality in European leagues, like CL. That makes me sad big time. CL's (semi)finals last few years have been only the top 5 richest clubs in Europe, and also the ones with the biggest debts (and yes, that includes that certain football team too) - I'd love to see the day all European clubs need to have their debts paid off before they can enter CL. It will make CL way more interesting than now, and less predictable.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 17-06-2011, 22:06:48
Didn't mean to sound very upset. I just now realized that you wondered why 'we' are so interested in the PL and not say, La liga, Ligue 1 or Serie A.
I interpreted your question as why we are interestd in a foreign league at all.

For me, it's because the reasons Rawhide and Thorondor said. Plus that i simply love britain and british culture.

Even though there are 3-5 teams fighting for the title every  year, it's still really evenly balanced compared to La liga for example.
barcelona and real madrid may be better than those top 5 teams. But put the 6-20 teams in PL up against the 3-20 teams of La liga, and the english teams would beat the crap out of the spanish teams.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 17-06-2011, 23:06:16
OK, well then, no harm done.

Like I said, I understand the interest for a league which is balanced, although it has a nasty consequence on a European scale like I wrote about above.

I myself used to watch foreign games because they were broadcast on our national TV, late at night, after all other sports. But since I can only watch them now on paid channels, I ditched watching games from other leagues (on occasion I watch one, but it is an exception). I'm a bit afraid that I might not do anything else anymore when I can watch football 24/7 (not that I would want to do so, but still).
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 18-06-2011, 10:06:32
And I gotta go along with Thor regarding the style of PL

British football has a unique style
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 18-06-2011, 12:06:39

Quote
Last night the 25-year-old spoke to Sportsmail from his holiday boat and said: ‘I want to leave Tottenham as friends. I have enjoyed my time there, but now it is right for me to look at another club

 If Spurs let go of Luka Modric now...

 I'm so afraid of Tottenham becoming that old Tottenham it was before
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 18-06-2011, 14:06:07
About balanced leagues: what do you guys think of the German league? There too, all teams can beat each other. It used to be a supremacy by Bayern Munchen, but lately clubs which aren't so famous have won the league, like Wolfsburg.

Same applies to Dutch league by the way. There used to be a "traditional top 3", one of the teams of that top 3 would win the league every year, but recently clubs which aren't from that top 3 have won the league, like AZ and Twente.

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 18-06-2011, 14:06:02
Indeed, i like the german league. Great football, the best fans in the world, and different teams win each year.

It isn't covered enough in sweden though (no swedish stars in that league). Next year I will do my best to follow the german league.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 18-06-2011, 15:06:22
Quote
Statement by Club Chairman, Daniel Levy
18 June 2011

"I wish to make it absolutely clear, as I have said previously, that none of our key players will be sold this summer. We are building a team for the future to consistently play at the highest level and retaining quality players is crucial to that.

"In respect of Luka Modric, we are not prepared to sell, at any price, to Chelsea Football Club or any other club.

"We made our stance on this issue abundantly clear in writing to Chelsea. They chose to ignore it and then subsequently made the offer public.

"For the avoidance of any doubt, let me reiterate that we shall not enter into any negotiations whatsoever, with any Club, regarding Luka.

"We now consider this matter closed."
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 18-06-2011, 22:06:39
Indeed, i like the german league. Great football, the best fans in the world, and different teams win each year.

It isn't covered enough in sweden though (no swedish stars in that league). Next year I will do my best to follow the german league.

I hope thats your opinion, right?

German Supporters compared with Brazilian and/or Argentinean Supporters, well...

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 19-06-2011, 06:06:42
USA plays in their first quarterfinal game of the Gold Cup tomorrow against Jamaica. Chances are they'll lose haha.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 25-06-2011, 06:06:04
Beat the shit outta Mexico US! (Gold Cup final)



W00t, transfer tiem!!

Matri (Loan), Quagliarella (Loan), Simone Pepe (Loan), Marco Motta (Loan) now signed by Juventus. Good team buildup, looking great!

Also, 40m for Aguero seems much, hes not thaaaaaaaat great and he didnt had a "Good" campaign. But if Juve insists...



I like how prices changed. I know when Maradona was young, and played in Argentinos Juniors, his transfer was like 3millions, as much!, like Deportivo Español (Now playing in 4th Division) was going to pay 3m for MARADONA. Now a terrible player, a really mediocre one is 10m or 18m.

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Schneider on 25-06-2011, 21:06:22
Indeed, i like the german league. Great football, the best fans in the world, and different teams win each year.

It isn't covered enough in sweden though (no swedish stars in that league). Next year I will do my best to follow the german league.

I hope thats your opinion, right?

German Supporters compared with Brazilian and/or Argentinean Supporters, well...


Don't mind him, he's still bitching and pissed at Argentina losing the 1/4-final 4:0 after he told me that they would crush the German team.  ;)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 26-06-2011, 07:06:43
Indeed, i like the german league. Great football, the best fans in the world, and different teams win each year.

It isn't covered enough in sweden though (no swedish stars in that league). Next year I will do my best to follow the german league.

I hope thats your opinion, right?

German Supporters compared with Brazilian and/or Argentinean Supporters, well...


Don't mind him, he's still bitching and pissed at Argentina losing the 1/4-final 4:0 after he told me that they would crush the German team.  ;)

Oh we will... we will.



Stupid german counterattacks!!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 06-07-2011, 19:07:34
It looks like you guys' beloved Luka Modric is "not for sale". But well, you know how valuable quotes are in the football business...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 09-07-2011, 06:07:42
Barcelona's 50m bid for Bale?

You guys, Premier League fans, is that true?.

Anyways, Copa America is Running and it sucks. Completly.

Argentina couldnt beat Bolivia, Bolivia with their star "Moreno"

Argentina with: Tevez, Zanetti, Messi, Pastore, Di Maria, Aguero, Higuain and so on, 1 - 1 Draw.

Argentina 0 - 0 Colombia. Pathetic match, never seen such an stupid Coach, NOT including Aguero and Pastore as starters (Aguero for Lavezzi / Pastore for Banega).

He even compared Banega with Xavi/Iniesta duo!! WTFF Xavi and Iniesta are unique, what i call "X I M" is like a little machine, a perfect one. How can you compare a mediocre Valencia midfielder with two top-class or world-class players?

He's insane, and thanks to him we're going to get a big D E F E A T on Copa America. In our own home.


Bullshit.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 09-07-2011, 12:07:04
Haven't heard anything about a 50 million bid on Bale from Barcelona.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 09-07-2011, 14:07:04
Haven't heard anything about a 50 million bid on Bale from Barcelona.


Nope me neither, plenty of rumours about Modric to United to though.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: djdynamite123 on 16-07-2011, 10:07:35
Arsenal ftw! I hope we sign Gary Cahill and Samba if we cant take Cahill. We have missed out on Stewart Downing who's signed for Liverpool, but 20 million? that's way to much since we could manage to buy Juan Mata for 20-22 mil or even Karim Benzema for 25!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 16-07-2011, 19:07:51
Modric really wants to go to Chelsea, he is gonna put in a transfer request.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: djdynamite123 on 16-07-2011, 19:07:47
Modric really wants to go to Chelsea, he is gonna put in a transfer request.
why would anyone wanna go to chelsea? other than to get a higher weekly pay packet.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 17-07-2011, 13:07:26
Modric really wants to go to Chelsea, he is gonna put in a transfer request

 If you write a contract with a binding period of 6 years and then wanna bail out and thinks another bit of paper with text on is gonna help maybe you should get a new agent...

(http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/6061/asst.jpg)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 17-07-2011, 15:07:43
I'm afraid Modric will keep the bench warm at Chealsea's. Of course it is just a request, I guess Spurs can simply say "No".
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 17-07-2011, 15:07:59
I'm afriad, even though Spurs are constantly telling everybody they won't sell him I'm quite sure that Spurs will sell without a doubt if they think the price is right.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 17-07-2011, 16:07:03
That would be dumb. I mean, sometimes what the player might achieve next season is worth more than an X amount of money.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 19-07-2011, 21:07:14
Tottenham keep having troubles down in South Africa.

First a 1-0 loss against Kaizer Chiefs (scored in the last minute in extra time)

And now it's 1-1 in halftime against Orlando Pirates, after a good start Tottenham just started to fumble with the ball along with bad passes.

Was also a 2-1 goal for Orlando but thank god for offside.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Thorondor123 on 13-08-2011, 20:08:32
So, there was some footballing going on today.

QPR - Notlob Bolton, 0 - 4.
Oh well, at least they are back.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 13-08-2011, 21:08:24
It's that time of year again!
Premier League, feels like yesterday it ended.

Really looking forward to this season, got some bets with friends as well. and playing the Fantasy Premier League.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 18-08-2011, 16:08:47
Why does it always have to end like this?

 :'( :'( :'(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNajyNeem3w
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 18-08-2011, 20:08:22
Tottenham tonight!

Can't wait!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Thorondor123 on 18-08-2011, 20:08:12
HJK - Schalke: 2 -0  \o/

:P
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 18-08-2011, 21:08:35
HJK - Schalke: 2 -0  \o/

:P
That was insane
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Smiles on 19-08-2011, 02:08:01
Why does it always have to end like this?

 :'( :'( :'(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNajyNeem3w

Why the said faces, this is awsome teli! Two of the best teams in the world fighting for a silly price and still being able to create such a fuzz, hmmmmmmmm.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Thorondor123 on 20-08-2011, 19:08:11
Everton - QPR: 0 - 1

Woohoo! :D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 20-08-2011, 20:08:56
Everton - QPR: 0 - 1

Woohoo! :D
Back in the day when QPR was in PL the last time they were experts in fucking things up so me and my dad never won any large amounts on our bets.

Today? Still the same.

They will never stop...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Eglaerinion on 26-08-2011, 23:08:25
Danish Dynamite
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqhIMC2TS2c

And Barca won another price. Don't get me started on the game, every match that features Mascherano is an insult for football.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Schneider on 27-08-2011, 00:08:20
HJK - Schalke: 2 -0  \o/

:P

Yeah, well..
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 27-08-2011, 21:08:33
Danish Dynamite
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqhIMC2TS2c

And Barca won another price. Don't get me started on the game, every match that features Mascherano is an insult for football.

Ya? Why?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 28-08-2011, 11:08:08
Tottenham vs Manchester City today!

I'm afraid my Spurs will get a beating today....
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 28-08-2011, 18:08:35
and what a beating they got...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 28-08-2011, 19:08:23
Wtf happened to Arsenal? Did anyone watch the MU vs. Arsenal game?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 28-08-2011, 20:08:04
didn't. but followed it somewhat on a live-blog.

Crazy. Simply crazy.

From what I've seen of united so far, with all their new players, it looks like they have played together for 10 years. They are amazing.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 28-08-2011, 20:08:26
Having watched Man United this year it's all well and good hyping up this team but they havn't faced a stern test yet. Arsenal are totally depleted and are in real trouble unless Wenger gets some new faces in.

United's back four combined with De Gea is an accident waiting to happen as soon as they come up against a quality strike force. Going forward they are fearsome but even this hollow shell of an Arsenal team could have put 4 past them today given the chances they had.

It's going to be a very interesting season.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: im_a_lazy_sod on 30-08-2011, 09:08:34
Man U vs Arsenal was a real end to end game

8-2 only describes part of it

Could have easily been 8-4 or 8-5 with the amount of chances Arsenal had - Man U were just lucky

Great on the attack, but when a counter-attack happened they looked shaky (hence the two penalties for not covering the best and the goal was poor defending off a poor clearance)

Great, entertaining match though, but Man U still deserved the win (the bastards lol)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 06-09-2011, 19:09:12
Last Friday Sweden lost against Hungary with 2-1

Today, Sweden meets San Marino.

I hoping that San Marino wins.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 07-09-2011, 17:09:30
Well, it took them 65 minutes to open the score...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 07-09-2011, 19:09:27
Well, it took them 65 minutes to open the score...
Ye, a bit longer then usual when it comes to San Marino.

Thank god we're done with this for now, lets kick the leagues going again!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 13-09-2011, 21:09:46
Come on, Milan!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 15-09-2011, 20:09:43
PAOK vs Tottenham

Tottenham has really lined up their C squad with Pavlyuchenko on top and Bassong as captain in the back.

0-0 so far, pretty entertaining first half, so far the second one is pretty more dull.

And the PAOK fans are amazing, never heard and seen so much pressure!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 15-09-2011, 21:09:16
0-0 end score, boring second half at least.

Now watching AZ Alkamaar - Malmö FF. Go sweden!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 15-09-2011, 22:09:45
Now watching AZ Alkamaar - Malmö FF. Go sweden!
Mmm, Swedes are 4-0 down and game is not over yet. They didn't hear you, Ted ;)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 16-09-2011, 12:09:25
4-1!

What happened?

EDIT: PAK vs Tottenham ended 0-0, PAOK really woke up the last 5 minutes and started a pressure that Spurs almost couldn't handle.

Really nice to see the young lads of Spurs get a chance and hold off PAOK. Might not work the next time around though.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Eglaerinion on 16-09-2011, 13:09:22
4-1!

What happened?

EDIT: PAK vs Tottenham ended 0-0, PAOK really woke up the last 5 minutes and started a pressure that Spurs almost couldn't handle.

Really nice to see the young lads of Spurs get a chance and hold off PAOK. Might not work the next time around though.

They played against the best Dutch team at the moment.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 17-09-2011, 21:09:39
Wow, Shit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBeISq4FxPU

That Damiao dude is a beast, Ronaldinho and Neymar played great, great passes both of them!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 17-09-2011, 23:09:25
I'm a Spurs fan and still...

I kinda feel bad for the Arsenal fans.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 18-09-2011, 10:09:12
Tottenham vs Liverpool in just a few hours!

Come on you Spurs!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 18-09-2011, 15:09:53
1-0 for Spurs so far

Charlie Adam got sent off after two yellow cards, the rest of the Liverpool team has gotten a few yellow cards as wel, in Spurs only Adebayor has received one.

Beautiful goal by Modric.

Halftime break!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Eglaerinion on 18-09-2011, 19:09:16
Didn't know whether to put this one in the joke or football thread.

(http://i.imgur.com/SSSud.gif)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 18-09-2011, 19:09:42
IMHO, you should put them in both. I did in someway.

I think that game would have been extremely different if Torres had score, there was some time left and a 3-2 then...

United is having their best start of a season since 1985...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 18-09-2011, 21:09:06
Unfortunately Liverpool lost with chickens - it was difficult to score a goal when they had to play 10 against 11 most of the match and they ended with 9 players... Red card made the match... And without any playmaker was difficult to make anything... obviously Meireles was sold to Chelsea like he was no needed anymore.... The best player of the previous season...  ::)

I watched also ManU - Chealsa... I havent seen a match with wasting so many 100% chances for a long time... This Torres shot was indeed - beautiful!  ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 18-09-2011, 22:09:39
Its time to rise again, Juventus!

Two Victories in a row and showing some great football imo.


Didnt know Adebayor was playing for Spurs now, thats great!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 01-10-2011, 15:10:46
Everton vs Liverpool right now, Everton got one man sent off early in the first half and Adam hit the bar in the final minutes. Still 0-0!

Tottenham vs Arsenal tomorrow!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 01-10-2011, 18:10:59
Liverpool won!
Rodwell sent off, kuyt missed a penalty. but then Carroll and Suarez scored late in the game
0-2!

Tomorrows derby will be really exciting
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 02-10-2011, 10:10:03
Several hours left before the Tottenham vs Arsenal game and I'm already nervous.

The Spurs flag is hanging out my window, has been doing since the 4-0 win over Liverpool

Come on you, Spurs!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 02-10-2011, 18:10:08
Halftime reached, 1-0 to Spurs after a beautiful goal by Van der Vaart in a messy Arsenal defence.

Anyhow, I'm dreaming. It's too good!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Eglaerinion on 02-10-2011, 18:10:14
Halftime reached, 1-0 to Spurs after a beautiful goal by Van der Vaart in a messy Arsenal defence.

Anyhow, I'm dreaming. It's too good!
Hand ball goal though. Match isn't very enjoyable, Arsenal slightly better and Gervinho missed the best chance. Painful to watch lol.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 02-10-2011, 19:10:03
Yeah, I was actually surprised how 'Boring' the game was, usually when these classic teams clash it's a real brawl (Like last spring, 3 goals in the first 5 mintues!).

But these are different times, Arsenal are on a unknown course at the moment, selling two great players and one of them to one of their biggest rivals in the top fight (Nasri, Manchester City).

Tottenham on the other hand have had a glimpse of Europe in the previous CL season and wants more and did everything they could to keep their star players.

Different times.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 02-10-2011, 20:10:23
Fuck Arsenal's defense. i want Wegner sacked, bring in somebody new for a change  ::)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 02-10-2011, 22:10:40
Big Derby days for me today.

Tottenham - Arsenal

Juventus 0 - 0 Milan

Racing 1 - 1 Independiente

GO RACING GO, show some football Colombians!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 03-10-2011, 02:10:18
i do feel bad for arsenal.
All respect to wenger, he's done a great job over the years.

But this summer was just shameful, and is proof for me that someone new is needed (question is, who? hiddink would be fun in arsenal).

Compare Wengers silly season to Fergusons.
All uniteds signings were completed before the first of july. giving them plenty of time to oversee the squad and let them play together.

Wenger says throughout all the summer "we will NOT sell fabregas or nasri", only to sell them 2 weeks before the window closes. Giving him a week or two to find replacements for his most important players.
He should either have sold them earlier in the summer, or stood fast (like tottenham with modric).
Now he had to panic-buy arteta and benayoun in the last minute (arteta being a good signing though).
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 03-10-2011, 16:10:52
Wenger says throughout all the summer "we will NOT sell fabregas or nasri", only to sell them 2 weeks before the window closes. Giving him a week or two to find replacements for his most important players.
He should either have sold them earlier in the summer, or stood fast (like tottenham with modric).
Now he had to panic-buy arteta and benayoun in the last minute (arteta being a good signing though).
It can't be that the sales of both Nasri and Fabregas came as a surprise to Wenger or Arsenal. So I guess Wenger had more than two weeks to buy new players. If not, then Arsenal really did a superbad job.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 15-10-2011, 12:10:47
Liverpool vs Manchester United soon!

C'mon Liverpool!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 15-10-2011, 12:10:58
United have lost the last 5 games on anfield. and with a rooney in disarray after england and family problems liverpool has a real chance good chance!

Oh and i just realized that i think Fabio Capello would be ideal to take over arsenal after Wenger. He knows how to win
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: G.Drew on 15-10-2011, 16:10:51
Oh and i just realized that i think Fabio Capello would be ideal to take over arsenal after Wenger. He knows how to win
[Citation Needed].
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 15-10-2011, 17:10:32
Oh and i just realized that i think Fabio Capello would be ideal to take over arsenal after Wenger. He knows how to win
[Citation Needed].
He won the italian league with Milan 4 teams between 92 and 96.
Won the spanish league with real madrid BOTH 1997 and 2007 (real madrid hasn't won since 07)
won the league with Roma 2001.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 16-10-2011, 11:10:17
One of the major Swedish newspapers before the City vs Villa game yesterday.

'City is strong but Villa is also strong, a draw is most likely!'

4-1 in your face, Mr Expert.

Too bad for Liverpool, I was really hoping for them. Gerrard is the man. Giggs is not a man after that free kick.

Today, Newcastle vs Spurs.

Both teams have some injuries here and there with some of the key players. But still I think Spurs will make it.

Come on you Spurs!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 19-10-2011, 18:10:28
Alessandro Del Piero announced that he will retire at the end of the 2011/12 Season.

Legendary Player, Forza Juve!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 19-10-2011, 21:10:12
Del Piero, what a player!

I remember one Saturday night a few seasons ago, I was sick and was watching Juventus play. Juventus was really struggling that game. Del Piero was sent in with just a few minutes left.

I don't think it went more then two seconds after he came on and Juventus had 1-0 thanks to Del Piero.

Special player.

Anyhow, Tottenham vs Newcastle. What a game!

As a Spurs fan I was hoping for them but I gotta say Newcastle got a great team and I can see why they haven't lost one single game so far this season!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 20-10-2011, 00:10:44

As a Spurs fan I was hoping for them but I gotta say Newcastle got a great team and I can see why they haven't lost one single game so far this season!
Even after losses like joey barton, josé enrique, kevin nolan and last winter andy carroll. Very impressive
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 20-10-2011, 14:10:11
Alessandro Del Piero announced that he will retire at the end of the 2011/12 Season.

Legendary Player, Forza Juve!
It will be a sad day for my wife, she has been a fan of Alex since she was 12 years old. One of the greater club players!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Smiles on 20-10-2011, 14:10:26
Woooow Champions sizzle yesterday was so BORING! Arsenal- Olympique BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 20-10-2011, 19:10:20
Tottenham vs Rubin Kazan tonight in the Europa League!

Tottenham will most likely play most of their young players with some more experienced players.


Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 20-10-2011, 21:10:46
Damn, this last two weeks have been full of nice goals conceded by freekicks

 In the European qualifying rounds we had Kim Källströms goal against Holland, earlier this week we had both Sebastian Larsson against Arsenal and also Van Persie for Arsenal in the same game.

And now, Pavlyuchenko in the the European League for Tottenham against Rubin Kazan.
 
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 23-10-2011, 14:10:42
Unbelievable that this thread hasn't been up for some time considering todays matches and also yesterdays.

Yesterday, Liverpool scored 1-0 with six seconds left of the first half at Anfield against Norwich.

Norwich came back in style and went home with 1-1, I'm impressed by Norwich. They also gave United a hard time earlier.

Aston Villa vs WBA. Villa got a penalty early in the game, 1-0. Then Jonas 'Big Swede' Olsson happened.

He first made a penalty for WBA, WBA missed it but later on Olsson himself scored the 1-1 goal and a while after that WBA came on more and got a 1-2 win over Villa. First WBA win over Villa in years!

Great game.

Juventus vs Genoa, 2-2. Torencio may describe the game but I thought it was entertaining.

Right now Lecce is taking on Zlatan's Milan and Lecce had a 3-0 lead for a while but now Milan is back with 3-3 and pushing for 3-4.

Todays big game is without a doubt the Manchester Derby.

City vs United. Hang on to your balls and pray for a draw. I think the winner in this game will rush to the top and win this season.

Other than that I'll be watching Blackburn vs Tottenham
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 23-10-2011, 15:10:07
Silly Juve, they have a great time for Scudetto, just like Racing Club, but they dont win either.

Totally missed the match, stupid TV here broadcasts Spanish and EPL, Serie A only important matches (Inter-Milan, Juve-Inter, Juve-Milan) and MLS too. Silly and pathetic league.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Eglaerinion on 23-10-2011, 15:10:33
Classico in the Netherlands, Ajax vs Feyenoord, ended in a 1-1 draw. Unbelievable. I've never seen such an uninspired Ajax in one of these matches. Shameful.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 23-10-2011, 18:10:22
So, United vs City...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Thorondor123 on 23-10-2011, 18:10:18
Bollocks!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Eglaerinion on 23-10-2011, 18:10:08
So, United vs City...
Good times. Although I would have rather seen another team taking them down a notch.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 23-10-2011, 19:10:35
Fucking hate you Aguero, FUCKING HATE YOU.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 23-10-2011, 19:10:31
That is one surprising match!

Too many surprises, it is like betting house is on the move.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 23-10-2011, 20:10:34
Classico in the Netherlands, Ajax vs Feyenoord, ended in a 1-1 draw. Unbelievable. I've never seen such an uninspired Ajax in one of these matches. Shameful.
Yes, Feyenoord should have won. Ajax didn't deserve anything in this match.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 12-11-2011, 15:11:40
What the fuck is going on with Argentina?!

Road to Brasil 2014.

Argentina 4 - 1 Chile

Venezuela 1 - 0 Argentina, FIRST TIME Venezuela defeats argentina in HISTORY.

Bolivia 1 - 1 Argentina, best result of Bolivia in Argentina was a defeat, now barely a draw.  Another historic result, Bolivia has only scored 3 goals in history against Argentina in our Country, this is pathetic.

Bolivia sucks in football, to be honest. Their good thing is their homeland, is really hard to go there and play. Playing over i think 6000+ meters of altitude is different. Yeah,  we lost 6-1 once (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pT9a4b_UC8&feature=related).

Our football is getting pathetic. We have a good coach, he led Estudiantes LP all the way to the top on Copa Libertadores and made things complicated to Barcelona for Clubs World Cup.

But man, the match against Chile was fine, chile was a disaster tho. Venezuela, Cmon! Most of their players play in the domestic league and they're bad! plus, 5 Defenders against Venezuela? Should be 5 Defenders against Germany, Spain or France, i dunno...

Bolivia was THE match to win, no. We have stars, everywhere. Messi, Pastore, Higuain, Aguero (Injured), Mascherano, lots of good players.

No, our defense sucks, like always. You should see this review and see why our defense is so bad.  Demichelis must retire from football. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAED64sq8Q0)


If we dont start winning there will be no 2014 WC, cant believe how smaller teams are giving us a hard time! Where is domination? When we will see Argentina 11 - 0 Venezuela again? when we will see epic matches Arg-Brasil? when will i stop worrying about this kind of matches, i really really dont want to see an Germany v Argentina because it will be a 4-0 again.


Damn.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 12-11-2011, 22:11:46
God damn qualifications and international friendlies. No league games all weekend, boring!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 13-11-2011, 16:11:22
We just won against Thailand by 3-1. They got 2 red cards, probably out of provocation from the environment (our home stadium).

WTF Argentina?

I think you people always dramatize your football games. I have this impression that Argentinians always cry over anything, be it from being too passionate about things or from generally emotional things. I used to cheer for Argentina back in Batistuta-Ortega-Verón, that time they played true to their reputation.

I suggest you guys to be like Brazil, this people are very carefree and kicks a lot of asses. And don't make a big deal about losing. Unlike England, an arguably regular team but view themselves as top class who mostly fails in international competition. That is totally over-hyped, they become too agitated with loses they are suffering, instead of accepting the defeat.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 13-11-2011, 16:11:32
God damn qualifications and international friendlies. No league games all weekend, boring!
This! This! This!

 Could not agree more.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Smiles on 13-11-2011, 17:11:57
yea its crap. Though this week Ger - neth will be alright  :)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 13-11-2011, 18:11:21
We just won against Thailand by 3-1. They got 2 red cards, probably out of provocation from the environment (our home stadium).

WTF Argentina?

I think you people always dramatize your football games. I have this impression that Argentinians always cry over anything, be it from being too passionate about things or from generally emotional things. I used to cheer for Argentina back in Batistuta-Ortega-Verón, that time they played true to their reputation.

I suggest you guys to be like Brazil, this people are very carefree and kicks a lot of asses. And don't make a big deal about losing. Unlike England, an arguably regular team but view themselves as top class who mostly fails in international competition. That is totally over-hyped, they become too agitated with loses they are suffering, instead of accepting the defeat.

Well, in Argentina football is different.

The problem is that North Americans, Asians, Europeans, etc, WATCH football, they dont feel it completly.

For example, im a Racing Club fan, when my team losses, i cant sleep. My week is fucking ruined, i dont talk that much etc etc. When Racing wins, im all happy.

Brazil does care alot when they lose, i remember 2010 WC when the team got back to their country it was, well, not a good situation for players.

Argentina and Brazil (Uruguay on early days) dominated America in football, times of Veron-Ortega-Batistuta as you said, it was one of the most feared teams around.

Back when Burruchaga, Valdano, Maradona, alot more feared.

And defiently the golden age, with Vicente de la Mata, Norberto Mendez, Moreno, Di Stefano, back in the 40's-50's when Argentina didnt participated on World Cups because a dissagreement. We cant lost against smaller teams man, you know? its like if, San Marino beats England 2-0, its crazy shit.

Im ok with smaller teams rising, but we are ARGENTINA damnit! we cant be fooled by these teams!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 14-11-2011, 16:11:16
Back when Burruchaga, Valdano, Maradona, alot more feared.

It is like Maradona alone you know  :P

That guy really owns the game.

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And defiently the golden age, with Vicente de la Mata, Norberto Mendez, Moreno, Di Stefano, back in the 40's-50's when Argentina didnt participated on World Cups because a dissagreement. We cant lost against smaller teams man, you know? its like if, San Marino beats England 2-0, its crazy shit.

Im ok with smaller teams rising, but we are ARGENTINA damnit! we cant be fooled by these teams!

Oh yeah, Alfredo Di Stéfano, a legend, and also Mario Kempes.

Yeah, but Messi, Higuain, Tevez, are not second to them. They are like world's best. In football, it doesn't matter if you have the best players in the world. The best team will still win.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: NTH on 15-11-2011, 21:11:12
Scheisse  >:( . We still got an hour. Germany vs Holland
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Eglaerinion on 15-11-2011, 21:11:57
Germany very effective, 2 shots on goal 2 goals. Dutch defense looks as bad as ever.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 16-11-2011, 03:11:47
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It is like Maradona alone you know  :P

That guy really owns the game.

Maradona had great teammates in 86' WC. He looked around and he had Burruchaga, Tata Brown, Valdano, etc. Messi looks around and has Di Maria (Never passes the ball, wants to do everything and he fails), Braña (Plays in Estudiantes de la Plata, wich is in the last position in our domestic league, sure), Rojo (Does he even play in whatever the team he is????), Sosa (REALLY?!?!?!), they're a disgrace.

Argentina needs Riquelme inmediately, hes a great player and plaed well with Messi on the 2010 WC Qualifiers. That guy is pure brain, thinking and great skills with the ball, not fast tho.

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Oh yeah, Alfredo Di Stéfano, a legend, and also Mario Kempes.

Yeah, but Messi, Higuain, Tevez, are not second to them. They are like world's best. In football, it doesn't matter if you have the best players in the world. The best team will still win.

Well Di Stefano is a true legend, he played in River Plate in Argentina before he moved to Colombia and then to Real Madrid. Kempes is, well, imo, a lie. He won a World Cup that was fixed for us, he is like "God" but for me, he is an asshole. It was an OK player tho.

Messi is great, it is true that he needs to be surrounded by a bunch of good players (Xavi, Iniesta, Fabregas, Villa in Barcelona), he cant do all the job. THATS what we expect from him (Not me, hehe), we expect him to do all the job and win games for us, with the motto Messi + 10.

Tevez is a great player, but he is also an idiot. El Jugador Del Pueblo, because he fights every ball. Not really a good thing for a Foward, making useless fauls and getting stupid yellow cards.

Higuain is cool, but he dissapears most of the times.

Aguero, fucking hate him, but he is a beast.


Good news we won in Colombia. Sort of a boring match tbh, i didnt seen the first half because i was on school, heard part of it on the Radio and it was boring.

When i got back home i heard that we were losing 1-0, Mascherano in a confusing but yet silly own goal.

Right in the second half we totally dominated Colombia. Burdisso, poor guy. 6 Months of innactivity awaits for him, the Roma Defender wont be around for quite a while, serius injury.

Messi moved the ball around, and we found the first goal.

Then Aguero to sentence Colombia.

Colombia was pretty tired, too much humidity and the temperature was high, you could see players walking and not running at all. They had one before the end of the match, Zuniga, great player.

In our Domestic league, Virtual Champions Boca Juniors will face their innmediate chasers, Racing Club.

Its a match to watch if you can, Bombonera will be a party, Colombian Starts Giovanni Moreno and Teofilo Gutierrez will start for Racing Club and Boca will not count with Riquelme Services.

They have an adventage of 8 Points with 12 in play. Both never lost a match in this Tournament, Boca has 3 goals against and Racing 4.

Forza Racing!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 16-11-2011, 09:11:11
Whoa, Portugal  vs Bosnia, 6-2?

Anyhow, bring back the league games now!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Smiles on 16-11-2011, 10:11:03
Nice goals by Germany, dutch players where crap. Well maybe not the players but the game they played. Bhèèèhh
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Ts4EVER on 16-11-2011, 13:11:20
Yeah, it was nice to see the Dutch getting owned like that ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 16-11-2011, 13:11:25
Whoa, Portugal  vs Bosnia, 6-2?

Anyhow, bring back the league games now!
Damn, i really hoped for Bosnia.

So last night was the first time in 43 years that England won against Sweden. An incredible streak has been broken.

Anyhow, bring back the league games now!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: NTH on 16-11-2011, 14:11:14
I really had my hopes up for Hannibal the Cannibal to render the Germans defenseless whenever they gazed upon him.

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 17-11-2011, 18:11:57
Germany played well, Dutch didn't. It is only one game. All those people who shout now that we don't have any chance to win the EC next year are stupid. Tsk, tsk, based on one game...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 19-11-2011, 11:11:59
Premier League is back!

THANK GOD!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 19-11-2011, 16:11:52
Van Persie scores 2 goals again, 9 goals in the last 5 games (i believe). Last 2 years i've said he's among the top 5 forwards in the world when he is well (this year should porve that).

Can't wait for Liverpool-Chelsea tomorrow, watching Man City-Magpies atm, 2-0.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 20-11-2011, 16:11:04
Man, every time I watch Juventus play there's ALWAYS several close-up's on Del Piero.

Does he ever get to play though?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 20-11-2011, 16:11:56
The same like Totti in Roma!  ;D When I watch highlights of Serie A matches, and when it comes to Roma match, there's always close-up on Totti  :P

Now, Im fastening my seatbelts and waiting for Liverpool match against Chelsea!!!! I hope we will beat them again!!  ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 20-11-2011, 21:11:08
Yay, my team won 0-4 today! I'm happy  :) :) :)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 21-11-2011, 00:11:40
And Liverpool won with Chelsea again!!!  ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 21-11-2011, 01:11:36
Well done Juventus claiming Serie A top spot!!

And im so angry, Boca is the virtual champion of this tournament, desicive match Boca v Racing was played a few minutes ago.

We played with 9 and against 12, yeah, 11 Players and the referee. 0-0

Anyone of Greece and loves football will recognize this man, Sebastian Saja (GK).

Saved our asses today.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 21-11-2011, 06:11:40
Feels so strange seeing Chelsea lose for the second time in a row at Stamford Bridge.

Tonight, Tottenham vs Aston Villa!

Finally, a Spurs game! And next week, even a Saturday game for my beloved Spurs. Haven't had a Saturday game for MONTHS (Damn you EL!)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 02-12-2011, 17:12:05
Ready for EURO 2012 final draw?

Any bets?

I hope Poland will have to play with Russia, Czech and Greece - at least we would have some chances...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTbMUywuQYA
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 02-12-2011, 21:12:57
Ready for EURO 2012 final draw?

Any bets?

I hope Poland will have to play with Russia, Czech and Greece - at least we would have some chances...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTbMUywuQYA
The fuck... You got them all right. For a neutral viewer (to those teams) this is clearly the least interesting group.

Sweden ended up with Ukraine, England and France. I'll say like I do before all championships: we don't stand a chance.

Germany, The Netherlands, Portugal and Denmark? what a group!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 02-12-2011, 23:12:11
Who says Serie A is boring?

Have you people seen Napoli 3 - 3 Juventus?

GREAT match
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 02-12-2011, 23:12:52
Ready for EURO 2012 final draw?

Any bets?

I hope Poland will have to play with Russia, Czech and Greece - at least we would have some chances...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTbMUywuQYA
The fuck... You got them all right. For a neutral viewer (to those teams) this is clearly the least interesting group.

Sweden ended up with Ukraine, England and France. I'll say like I do before all championships: we don't stand a chance.

Germany, The Netherlands, Portugal and Denmark? what a group!

Yeah, we got the weakest from each basket - what luck!  ;D Now, we must get to the quarter-finals!!!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 03-12-2011, 15:12:40
U MAD GERMANY?

U MAD HOLLAND?

U MAD PORTUGAL?

:D:D:D:D:D:D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 03-12-2011, 19:12:41
Ready for EURO 2012 final draw?

Any bets?

I hope Poland will have to play with Russia, Czech and Greece - at least we would have some chances...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTbMUywuQYA
The fuck... You got them all right. For a neutral viewer (to those teams) this is clearly the least interesting group.

Sweden ended up with Ukraine, England and France. I'll say like I do before all championships: we don't stand a chance.

Germany, The Netherlands, Portugal and Denmark? what a group!

Nobody knows... I'd say, Sweden still has a decent 40-60 chance. England and France has been one of the most unstable performing team recently. Sweden defeated the Netherlands last October, so yeah, the chance is still there.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 03-12-2011, 21:12:21
Il be honest, many big national teams are shit now (Not Germany tho), England and France, dont know wtf are they doing but when i see their matches, i think they stink.

Sweden has a Chance, its NOT impossible to beat England, they must just take this opportunity with both Hands, England is weak and Sweden can be strong!

Tomorrow Juve match!, Conte will look to secure the highest spot on Serie A against Cesena, im happy because they showed some great attitude against Napoli, Cesena should be an easy match! Serie A is back to normal, Juve is on top and Inter is the flop of this half-season, THIS IS GOOD.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 03-12-2011, 22:12:23
Sweden defeated the Netherlands last October, so yeah, the chance is still there.
That was after Netherlands had qualified already and 100% sure about first place. Like the 3-0 defeat in Hamburg, which was a friendly match, it doesn't really mean anything.

I'm glad we got a heavy group with Germany, Portugal and Denmark, because if we survive it, we will meet some easier opponents in the knockout phase. Also, nobody will underestimate the first matches in this group ;)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 04-12-2011, 12:12:15
Sweden will get it though this coming summer, all I hope is we get some good games. England vs Sweden is always fun (if you forget that last game)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 04-12-2011, 18:12:50
Well done Juve beating Cesena 2-0, securing top spot, moving on to beat Bologna in Coppa Italia and then Roma for Serie A, Inter is close to Relegation (4 points over Novara Calcio, wich is in relegation zone), they deserve Relegation for beign assholes, for selling Eto'o.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 04-12-2011, 18:12:26
Sweden will get it though this coming summer, all I hope is we get some good games. England vs Sweden is always fun (if you forget that last game)
Oh yes, i still get the chills when thinking about the 2002 game. English commentators hardly know who Nicklas Alexandersson is, he is put in at halftime and completely dominates the game + scores. result: we win the group.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 06-12-2011, 20:12:28
UGH I HATE UEFA IN AMERICA! I can find Chelsea v valencia on tv, and porto v st.petersburg. But arsenal is not on anywhere. FUCK!!!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: MaJ.P.Bouras on 07-12-2011, 13:12:08
Arsenal Lost to Olympiakos my favorite team.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 07-12-2011, 18:12:14
Sweden defeated the Netherlands last October, so yeah, the chance is still there.
That was after Netherlands had qualified already and 100% sure about first place. Like the 3-0 defeat in Hamburg, which was a friendly match, it doesn't really mean anything.

I'm glad we got a heavy group with Germany, Portugal and Denmark, because if we survive it, we will meet some easier opponents in the knockout phase. Also, nobody will underestimate the first matches in this group ;)

Don't like Netherlands since WC2010. Don't like what they did to Brazil (even though Brazil themselves also played unfairly). Even hate more about what they did to Spain. I always hate it when cafes and bars easily picked orange theme whenever an international football event is on the show.

However, I still predict that they will advance pretty well from the group stage into knockout stage. Most probably Germany will accompany them, advancing to the group stage.

I expected surprise coming from Russia or Ukraine! Basically eastern European teams.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 07-12-2011, 19:12:08
Don't like Netherlands since WC2010. Don't like what they did to Brazil (even though Brazil themselves also played unfairly). Even hate more about what they did to Spain.
Uggh, based on what, one match? Watch more, my friend, you will enjoy more. Netherlands vs Sweden at home in the qualifiers for example, beautiful match.

If Spain had lost in the final of WC2010, we would be talking about the way they had been playing now. Don't believe me? Remember France vs Italy in WC final? What do you remember? Not the totally brutal attacks by Gattuso, no, you only remember Zidane and his header vs Materazzi. Like millions of other people. It is so predictable and easy to take the winning side and then forget that winners also do stuff which isn't allowed, nice or beautiful.

And please tell me what was unfair about the win against Brazil?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 07-12-2011, 20:12:37
Spain losing won't change anything:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_FIFA_World_Cup_Final
It is the fact that they don't play right.

vs. Brazil
Talking about how Robben dived a lot of times, and Brazilian players like Dani Alves being loose cannon, then Felipe Melo stomped over acting Robben, wtf was that? It was a very bad show. That match is a big joke. Dunga simply programmed his team to play like robots. Might work for Mourinho, but certainly not for him and Brazil. The Dutch simply adds the insult to the injury. That is what my meneer called vervelend! The commentary from Bert about Brazil is pretty ironic.

vs. Spain
Then they carried that attitude to the finals. Spain played their usual flurry of short passes, trying to play it clean like they did against Germany, which is one of the few beautiful "clean" matches in the WC2010. Besides that kung fu kick by de Jong which were not punished fairly, I've seen one instances where Iniesta were sandwiched

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9412GnS1Dg

Although he reacted adversely (which I don't like either), this is only one of many instances where Dutch players played their dirty tricks.

Iniesta, who probably trained diving skills as hard as dribbling skills, can't escape from Dutch's totally dirty football.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ-MsI4XvFQ&feature=related

In the instance where Heitinga shouldn't be punished, he got it anyway. It was deliberately done after many Dutch and Spain's offenses were lightly punished by Webb himself. Iniesta's dive paid off. Let Bert introspect his statement against Brazil, the Dutch argued that they dove a lot as a reaction to Brazil's rough play, but they have to swallow their own words here, especially when a red card is presented to innocent Heitinga, not de Jong or van Bommel. I simply LOLed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1aT97dbikk&feature=related

Sound biased but true: this is a very very rare instance where Robben didn't choose to dive when closely guarded. It should have earned him the title Duke of Antilles for not diving against 3 adverse obstructions (especially from Puyol), which he usually do, like many other superstar players.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=weP1lKW6gNc

About WC2006, yeah I know that Gattuso foul, I remember most things, including this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGmk7W_H1ok

That is the only final which I favor no team. My friend (who is French supporter) cried foul when no penalty was given.

That guy has a very short temper,  Like WC2002, did you know that Ronaldo stepped over Oliver Kahn's hand. He was injured already before the match, this incident only made it worse. Not long after that, a goal was scored against him, followed by another 10 minutes later.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Eglaerinion on 07-12-2011, 23:12:45
UEFA CL is a joke. Corrupt teams and officials decide who goes through.

Never seen anything like this before.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 07-12-2011, 23:12:16
UEFA CL is a joke. Corrupt teams and officials decide who goes through.

Never seen anything like this before.
Anything specific in mind? City or united? Lyons big win? In uniteds case, they always get their way, if anyone would be corrupt it would be in Uniteds favour.


This is fucking crazy :) Both united and City are out!!! so happy right now, this is fucking crazy.

Still a bit sad, as they were two of the teams that could actually beat Barcelona, and bad for the cup as you want to see the big games.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Eglaerinion on 07-12-2011, 23:12:15
UEFA CL is a joke. Corrupt teams and officials decide who goes through.

Never seen anything like this before.
Anything specific in mind? City or united? Lyons big win? In uniteds case, they always get their way, if anyone would be corrupt it would be in Uniteds favour.


This is fucking crazy :) Both united and City are out!!! so happy right now, this is fucking crazy.

Still a bit sad, as they were two of the teams that could actually beat Barcelona, and bad for the cup as you want to see the big games.
Yeah definately Lyon going through. Ajax scores two goals which are disallowed for offside, well it wasn't offside in both cases. Furthermore the 1-7 win from Lyon. If you see those goals even the most naive person would suspect some foul play by Zagreb. Disgraceful.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Fuchs on 08-12-2011, 00:12:50
There goes Zoo again with his anti-Dutch football team campaign. Yes, the WC'10 consisted of nothing but filthy play but to dislike the Dutch team for that. Look at the final, Spain and the Netherlands where both just as bad.

And for the record, I cheered for Spain in summer 2010. Why? Because everyone else was cheering for the Netherlands. Bury your dislike for the Dutch, Zoo.

Or save it for the Germans  ;)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 08-12-2011, 04:12:54
Meh, Glory to the Netherlands, showed some great football in the WC, when it all started i knew Netherlands will reach the final, and they rivals will be Argentina...

Spain was boring as hell, and its still boring. Their silly possesion game kills the intensity of a football match, its boring to see then passing the balls between each other like if it was training, with the opposition players running aroudn trying to get it, its pathetic.

God! screw La Liga, fucking ugly! both Madrid and Barcelona beating smaller teams 5-0, 8-0, screw that shit, thats why i love Serie A, atleast i see some football, intense matches like Inter-Udinese, Lecce-Milan, Napoli-Juventus, but its highly underrated.

So, who will win this Clasico on Saturday?

Barcelona imo.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 08-12-2011, 12:12:42
Spain was boring as hell, and its still boring. Their silly possesion game kills the intensity of a football match, its boring to see then passing the balls between each other like if it was training, with the opposition players running aroudn trying to get it, its pathetic.

God! screw La Liga, fucking ugly! both Madrid and Barcelona beating smaller teams 5-0, 8-0, screw that shit, thats why i love Serie A, atleast i see some football, intense matches like Inter-Udinese, Lecce-Milan, Napoli-Juventus, but its highly underrated.

So, who will win this Clasico on Saturday?

Barcelona imo.
Oh god thank you Torenico! The exact reason I hate barcelona. It's no fun at all watching them play. I'm not arguing that they are (most likely) the best team in the whole world, they play magical football. BUT it's so fucking boring to watch, the opponents doesn't get a chance, what fun is there to watch a game when you know how it will end?
Besides, if they do have 75% possession, that doesn't say a thing cause 95% of their passes are not going foward but just back and forth on the sides, 800 passes in a game? so what.

I know what you mean, I really dislike La Liga. There actually is an unspoken rule of honour in italy, that you DO NOT win a game with more than 4 goals. You stop at 4-0, you simply don't humiliate the other team. Such an honourable unspoken rule (nothing like that in la liga).

I really really hope and believe that Real Madrid will win against Barcelona this weekend. I don't really like Real Madrid, but out of hatred for Barcelona (there are more reasons than just their possession game) I have started to cheer for them. If they do win this game I'm 95% certain that they will win the league.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Marder on 08-12-2011, 16:12:15
Meh, Glory to the Netherlands, showed some great football in the WC, when it all started i knew Netherlands will reach the final, and they rivals will be Argentina...

Spain was boring as hell, and its still boring. Their silly possesion game kills the intensity of a football match, its boring to see then passing the balls between each other like if it was training, with the opposition players running aroudn trying to get it, its pathetic.

God! screw La Liga, fucking ugly! both Madrid and Barcelona beating smaller teams 5-0, 8-0, screw that shit, thats why i love Serie A, atleast i see some football, intense matches like Inter-Udinese, Lecce-Milan, Napoli-Juventus, but its highly underrated.

So, who will win this Clasico on Saturday?

Barcelona imo.
An argentinian who hates Spain wins something, nothing new for me. Nobody forces you to see the Spain matches...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 08-12-2011, 16:12:14
Fuchs, it is just me hatin' cause I love football. We hate, we love, but we play  ;D

Here La Liga was aired for 3 seasons, and then died. Bundesliga was also tried, but failed after 2 seasons. The only thing survives here are EPL and Serie-A besides our local league.

We used to say, La Liga is filled with handsome boys, they are in the field to show off against weaker teams. When they lose the ball, they will roll on the grass and whine to the referee as if someone stole the candy from them. Sorry Torenico, but I also consider some Argentinians playing in their league (like Messi) to be the same: spoiled superstars. One of the reasons why I cheered for Argentina back then was because Argentinian Serie-A players.
Ever since Florentino Perez decided to fill El Galactico with all-star starting liners, hoarding expensive players, most people jeered at their football and players. Look at Cristiano Ronaldo and how his national football team sucked for relying too much on his stardom to achieve something real.
Bundesliga is filled with machines, there is too much intensity in a game, and too much camera close-ups on ball pursuits. They are soldiers and scientists breed to win games, the coach are rocket scientists and mathematicians, too little artistry.

But EPL is filled with genuine competition and wits. While Serie-A is full of with intensity and drama. Both Italy and England are few national teams with most of all players coming from local league. Other example would be Spain. Don't like teams like these, they either performed brilliantly or miserably, no outside expertise. Like English penalty skills... in WC2006, only one guy scored against Portugal's Ricardo, apart from big overrated EPL players (at that time) like: Lampard, Gerrard, and Carragher. They all missed, but Hargreaves.
BBC joked, that was because Hargreaves played in German club instead of English club.

From this point of view, I can spare Netherlands and might cheer for them.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 08-12-2011, 17:12:59
An argentinian who hates Spain wins something, nothing new for me. Nobody forces you to see the Spain matches...

True, nobody forces me to watch Spain matches but i think that football is crap, boring and doesnt make any sense at all. It was fun when Barça started to beat teams like Almeria, Gijon, etc 8-0, 6-0, 4-0, like OMG look at that! but now its pure crap. No competition for them, wheres the fun?

And about the National team, OVERRATED. Spain in WC was boring man, 1-0 1-0 1-0 1-0 and a 2-1 i think against Honduras, meh, even the Swiss managed to beat them.

Yeah Fuchs, i slighty hate Barça but Messi is there, so i kinda cheer for them. I hate Madrid, both Madrid and Barcelona players are cowards, blaming each other for diving, yellows, etc. But i think Madrid has the wrong attitude, Mourinho can go to hell, stupid guy, he still have to learn how to lose, arrogant players like Pepe and Marcelo, only Benzema and Fábio Coentrão are my favorites, as they seem to be really quiet.


Madrid is always busy thinking how great they are, Cristiano always watching the cameras and Mourinho too busy trying to kick Fabregas in the head and they eat 5 Goals ^^.

No doubts if Madrid wins this saturday they'll be the champions, no doubts at all.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 09-12-2011, 22:12:09
Spain losing won't change anything:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_FIFA_World_Cup_Final
It is the fact that they don't play right.
Why quote wikipedia?
What I mean by the importance of who wins or loses a match, is that the loser will always be blamed (way) more than the winner.
When you say "The Dutch didn't play a good match vs Spain, it was unlike their usual style of football" I can agree. But simply stating that "they don't play right" is a gross generalisation.

I've seen one instances where Iniesta were sandwiched

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9412GnS1Dg

Although he reacted adversely (which I don't like either), this is only one of many instances where Dutch players played their dirty tricks.

Iniesta, who probably trained diving skills as hard as dribbling skills, can't escape from Dutch's totally dirty football.
Poor Iniesta maybe weighs 35 kilograms and yes, he trains a lot on diving, or was born with a talent for it. Also, he keeps falling again and again and then quickly standing up and asking for a card, the most unsportsmanship-like behaviour I know from football. The fact that this lightweight can't stay on both feet can hardly be called "dirty tricks" (asking for cards can, btw), and although he childishly reacts, you protect him by saying "he can't escape from Dutch's totally dirty football". Bullshit. Overexaggeration on your part. Again.

After this, you start giving a lot of examples of Spain's dirty play and yet you only bash the Dutch, proving my statement about losers/winners.

Why are you so anti-Dutch? Is it history related?

@ Barcelona: they don't play so well this season, so there is some competition this year.

@ Lyon-Zagreb: I read the players of Zagreb wanted their coach out so they stopped defending.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 10-12-2011, 01:12:16
From a neutral perspective, you are both as bad as each other. The only positives for me that came out of WC 2010 was the emergence of the "lesser" South American teams liks Uruguay and Paraguay and the total demolition that England experienced against a youthful German side.

I can't wait to see the SA teams again in 2014, they are genuinely exciting to watch and their style of football is fantastic.

Although not a big fan, I am looking forward to seeing England's new breed of footballers i.e Wilshere, Cleverly, Henderson, Rodwell etc. Their style is far more continental and the future looks quite promising for them.

Calling Spain "boring" is incredibily ignorant. They are easily the best national team in the world and as much as it may pain the Dutch fans to hear it, trying to kick them off the park was the only way they had a chance of winning in the final.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 10-12-2011, 02:12:23
They are easily the best national team in the world and as much as it may pain the Dutch fans to hear it, trying to kick them off the park was the only way they had a chance of winning in the final.
I agree Spain is the best team, at least they were on WC2010. But Spanish players themselves have stated after the match they feared a Dutch goal in the second half, as the Spanish were not playing 100% for a while then. And they too called the final a close call, so I think you're wrong about the kicking off. But I'll understand if you call that biased ;)

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 10-12-2011, 03:12:43

Calling Spain "boring" is incredibily ignorant. They are easily the best national team in the world and as much as it may pain the Dutch fans to hear it, trying to kick them off the park was the only way they had a chance of winning in the final.

Yeah, boring is the incorrect word.














FUCKING boring is the correct one. Their "Domination" is way too much, one sided matches! wooh! So nice. Its so exciting to see Barcelona 8 - 0 Almeria, and results like that, so much football, uhm sorry, so much Barcelona...


And Spain is not the best team in the world, lets admit that the WC was totally mediocre, they won a mediocre World Cup.

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 10-12-2011, 14:12:19
Blame La Liga for not being able to field teams who can challenge them technically.

Don't blame Barcelona for "dominating" other teams, it's a backwards logic. So they shouldn't play to their strengths and keep possession of the ball?

It's not Barcelona's fault that leagues such as the EPL, Bundesliga and Serie A are now (IMO) far more entertaining to watch. It's the fact that only they and Real can provide a serious challenge to win the title.
All the other teams simply can't cut it against them.

As for the World Cup, you can only beat what's put in front of you. Mediocre or not.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 10-12-2011, 16:12:15
I love yoou, Torenico. FINALLY someone who feels the same towards barcelona.

Don't blame Barcelona for "dominating" other teams, it's a backwards logic. So they shouldn't play to their strengths and keep possession of the ball?

It's not Barcelona's fault that leagues such as the EPL, Bundesliga and Serie A are now (IMO) far more entertaining to watch. It's the fact that only they and Real can provide a serious challenge to win the title.
All the other teams simply can't cut it against them.
Of course they should play their own game, and they do it fantastically. But it's fucking boring to watch (just like with spain). Did you see the CL final Barcelona-Man Utd? (at that time) The best teams in the world and Barcelona massacred them. It's not just the opposition in La Liga.

There is no fun at all in watching a game when you know how it will end. Hell, even if the opposing team stood a chance their possession game is really boring as they just pass from side to side for sometimes whole minutes, then someone takes a run.
What they do, they are amazing at, but I hate what they do.

Now; I won't praise Real Madrid as the opposite, they too dominate all other teams in La Liga (and most teams from abroad), but they don't play the same game (Mourinho can adapt).

What I really DO hate though, are the people hating Real Madrid and José Mourinho for how they played agains Barcelona this spring. They actually won the Copa del Rey final! how? played incredibly defensive and Pepe ran was marking messi the whole game. Now, Real Madrid adapted to Barcelonas game to actually be able to stand a chance, and they are hated for it.
I admire defensive-play just as much (or more) as I admire offensive play.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 10-12-2011, 16:12:46
If Barcelona really is unbeatable, why are they not the winners of CL in the past 5-10 years? Even in Spain they don't win everything.

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 10-12-2011, 17:12:30

Now; I won't praise Real Madrid as the opposite, they too dominate all other teams in La Liga (and most teams from abroad), but they don't play the same game (Mourinho can adapt).

What I really DO hate though, are the people hating Real Madrid and José Mourinho for how they played agains Barcelona this spring. They actually won the Copa del Rey final! how? played incredibly defensive and Pepe ran was marking messi the whole game. Now, Real Madrid adapted to Barcelonas game to actually be able to stand a chance, and they are hated for it.
I admire defensive-play just as much (or more) as I admire offensive play.

I dont like Real Madrid either, not even a little bit. I dont like anything from them, their Coach, Pepe, Marcelo, Xabi Alonso, Casillas, their policy of "Buying the best players of the moment, because I CAN". They buy all the "Today's Stars" with only one objetive, BEAT BARCELONA. They're not doing too well, lets see today tho, with their new Stars Nuri Sahin and Hamit Altintop, 1 apps for for them of....



This Derby is so fake, the Media plays a huge part in this Clasico, making alot of $ only with the Pre Match, no i wont watch it, im more busy to know if my team will qualify for Copa Libertadores.

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If Barcelona really is unbeatable, why are they not the winners of CL in the past 5-10 years? Even in Spain they don't win everything.

Because sometimes there are teams that are really awake when Barcelona does "Magic", what i notice from opposition players is that, they cover an area, leaving Barcelona and their Possesion alone, when Barcelona makes a mistake, they all rush to cut a pass and now THEY have the ball. Of course, Barcelona is very skilled at regaining the ball, but a good team, like Milan, Inter, Man Utd and Man City will be able to damage Barcelona with Goals.

It all depends on the morale of the oppsotion. Man Utd players were almost dead by the 20th minute on the CL Final, few of them ran for the ball, no creativity when they finally HAVE the ball. So whats the entertaning thing here?. What a way to retire, Van der Sar.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 10-12-2011, 18:12:48
Yes torenico, i used to hate real madrid more than anything in the world of football, Barcelona have taken that place. I still do, they buy all the stars and big names (at least they did before Mourinho, he's done smarter deals). But at the moment I do think of Real Madrid as the lesser of two evils.
Used to hate Mourinho, but he's grown on me since he left chelsea. Does his own thing incredible coach, loved by his players, and all over a real super-star.

[quote author=Torenico link=topic=11067.msg233431#msg233431 date=1323536370
It all depends on the morale of the oppsotion. Man Utd players were almost dead by the 20th minute on the CL Final, few of them ran for the ball, no creativity when they finally HAVE the ball. So whats the entertaning thing here?. What a way to retire, Van der Sar.
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Also depends on the morale of barcelona. Just look at the league, the Real players are definitely more motivated than the barca-players, who've been dominant for the last years and won everything.


Disclaimer:
It is not their game that makes me hate them, their possession games only makes me hate to WATCH them. There are several other factors I don't want to bring up now (they are posted many pages back in this thread).
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 10-12-2011, 18:12:53
Why are you so anti-Dutch? Is it history related?

No, nothing with history. I just don't like what they did in WC2010. It is simply ugly, like "the battle of Nuremberg" in WC2006, which is fought by Portugal vs. the Netherlands (again)  ;D.

For the Dutch team, I like Dennis Bergkamp, he brought me to football, hook me up with Arsenal FC ever since. But currently I hate Dutch because of temporary events.

But my dislike for Spain, yes... it is historical, I've always wondered why, Spain has never won a World Cup or Euro, even though there are a lot of great players there. Along with the Dutch, we call them "champions without their crown."

Then I heard from Spain that "there are no national team for Spain, but local club team," Barcelona has Barca, Madrid has el Real Malaga has Malaga, Zaragoza has Real Zaragoza, La Coruña has Deportivo La Coruna, and so on. This is worsened by Luis Figo, (at that time) aided by Zidane commenting about the team's failure in La Liga but apparent success in CL, "La Liga is more difficult." They do not brag about the sportsmanship, teamwork and their play, but instead they "demand" victory just because they invested so much money in hoarding superstars. But that's football, someday I'll find a reason to love them.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 10-12-2011, 18:12:09

It all depends on the morale of the oppsotion. Man Utd players were almost dead by the 20th minute on the CL Final, few of them ran for the ball, no creativity when they finally HAVE the ball. So whats the entertaning thing here?. What a way to retire, Van der Sar.
Also depends on the morale of barcelona. Just look at the league, the Real players are definitely more motivated than the barca-players, who've been dominant for the last years and won everything.



Yup, Barca players are less motivated this season. Thats good.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 10-12-2011, 19:12:12
Why are you so anti-Dutch? Is it history related?

No, nothing with history. I just don't like what they did in WC2010. It is simply ugly, like "the battle of Nuremberg" in WC2006, which is fought by Portugal vs. the Netherlands (again)  ;D.

For the Dutch team, I like Dennis Bergkamp, he brought me to football, hook me up with Arsenal FC ever since. But currently I hate Dutch because of temporary events.
OK, well, I'm sorry to hear that you apparently haven't seen any match by them since WC2010, because they have been improving a lot. The final last year and that Nuremberg match are two of the worst matches of Holland ever. But they can play beautiful and good as well. On Euro 2008 they played two superb matches vs Italy (3-0) and France (4-1), and in the qualifiers for next Euro Cup they played several great matches, like the Sweden game (4-1) I already mentioned.

But my dislike for Spain, yes... it is historical, I've always wondered why, Spain has never won a World Cup or Euro, even though there are a lot of great players there. Along with the Dutch, we call them "champions without their crown."
This is also a reason why the Dutch didn't play their best games on WC2010. We were always known in the world for our style of play, many people from outside the Netherlands liked it (a lot). But apart from Euro 1988 we never won anything, so last WC, we tried to get results instead of just another tournament with nice play and no prize. We almost succeeded. Since WC2010, the team has been combining both the playstyle and the aim for results, which resulted in a winning streak which only ended after they had qualified for next EC (goal reached, so motivation dropped a little).

I hope they continue to play the nice style I have seen in the qualifiers, and combine it with wins.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 11-12-2011, 09:12:31
Man, even I wanted to see Real Madrid win.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 11-12-2011, 09:12:21
Lol, what a bunch of cowards.

Where is Ronaldo? Why he dissapears on big matches?

I think that guy is a lie. The player of the media.

Forget about it Mou, you wont beat Barcelona, not even with an "All Stars" team.

You just cant beat Barcelona's possesion game, and thats terrible tbh, football is doomed.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 18-12-2011, 17:12:35
Yet another cup for Barcelona.

I think we're done, nobody can stop them now.


Messi said it "With this players, everything is easy". The only hope for these teams that cannot fight for their league lives in Champions league. But since Barcelona is there well, it seems that it will be another title for the Spanish team.

Juventus won 2-0 against Novara, awaiting for Lazio v Udinese. This 21 December Juve will face Udinese, win and secure the 1st place once again.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 26-12-2011, 09:12:48
Boxing Day is here!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 26-12-2011, 14:12:05
Indeed it is!

Watching Chelsea-Fulham atm.
Coming up, Liverpool-Blackburn.
And then later if I feel like it: Stoke-Aston Villa.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 27-12-2011, 17:12:04
Fulham got a pretty good squad, I think they just need that final player to really get the squad going and they can really do some serious damage.

 I feel bad for Liverpool, such a classic team with so many problems and those two last chances last night was almost heartbreaking to watch. Blackburn sure didn't mind it but still.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 27-12-2011, 18:12:17
Well as a Liverpool fan, I'm really disappointed in some of the transfers they've done last year.

Even though I do support the thought of having as many british players as possible, Dalglish feels a bit blinded by it.
I mean, Andy Carroll? Real stupid purchase. Could have gotten, for example, a class player like Fernando Llorente for that kind of money.
Jordan Henderson? whoa what an overly priced boy. Crazy. I mean, good as a rotational player/benchwarmer, but pay 22m pound? could have gotten so many better players for that.
Stewart Downing I like, not gotten the greatest start though. and to put it in perspective, could have got Juan Mata for that kind of money.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 01-01-2012, 15:01:18
So, what a weekend.

Manchester United vs Blackburn, 2 - 3
Chelsea vs Aston Villa, 1 -3

 Too bad Spurs didn't beat Swansea (1-1) then they would have had a good chance for beating them to the 2nd spot
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 01-01-2012, 18:01:28
City lost too. Guess the big teams did drink a tad too much on New Year's Eve ;)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 01-01-2012, 18:01:01
I think Chelsea and City's owners both had some kind of contest which team could have the biggest Christmas/New years party...

Looks like nobody won.

But this is good, the Manchester teams gotta slow down so we can get some kind of top four fight
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 01-01-2012, 19:01:05
Well as a Liverpool fan, I'm really disappointed in some of the transfers they've done last year.

Even though I do support the thought of having as many british players as possible, Dalglish feels a bit blinded by it.
I mean, Andy Carroll? Real stupid purchase. Could have gotten, for example, a class player like Fernando Llorente for that kind of money.
Jordan Henderson? whoa what an overly priced boy. Crazy. I mean, good as a rotational player/benchwarmer, but pay 22m pound? could have gotten so many better players for that.
Stewart Downing I like, not gotten the greatest start though. and to put it in perspective, could have got Juan Mata for that kind of money.

Carroll is the most expensive wood in the world... I don't how is this possible that player without technique can cost so much?!
Well, Henderson was 2nd in assists ranking in the previous season, so I think he was worth this money... However, nobody expected that he will be playing much worse in this season...
Downing - there was quite loudy about him a few years ago, but I didn't hear much about him in the previous season and I think it wasn't good transfer...

I think Liverpool is simply unlucky that all players who were bought are playing worse than in the previous season...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 09-01-2012, 02:01:35
So Henry is back to Arsenal, what a player!.

Juventus signed Boriello, WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?!?!?!?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 09-01-2012, 03:01:01
Nostalgia's sake biatch... partially superstition.  ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Gezoes on 11-01-2012, 19:01:20
Nice shooting  :o 8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBGjvbVcWro&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBGjvbVcWro&feature=related)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: FORGOTTENKEVINOHOPE on 11-01-2012, 20:01:16
Lets go 49ers!       oops  wrong football  :P
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 12-01-2012, 09:01:42
This picture says it all after Spurs 2-0 win over Everton last night

(http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/6218/ligan.jpg)

Come on you Spurs!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 12-01-2012, 09:01:27
Wow poor Everton, suck ass team. Loved Tim Howard goal tho

Yeah! Go Spurs!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 12-01-2012, 09:01:02
I couldn't sleep last night, this is too big as a Spurs fan.

Same amount of points as United and the same amount of played games.

And the game was great, Everton has some known issues but still they put up a good fight. Aaron Lennons steal in the first half was great to see but Assou-Ekottos cannonball was something special. Sure, a small touch on a Everton defender but still it was a great shot. Reminded me of the days of Erik Edman when he was in Spurs and decided to take that shot against Liverpool...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fl9WC9Le70A
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 15-01-2012, 13:01:18
QPR's new manager will be facing Newcastle today!

I hope it will be a good clash!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 15-01-2012, 17:01:38
Uh Oh, stupid Cagliari.

1-1 with Juve at new Juve Stadium, we still have 1st spot but Milan has -1 matches.

And that match is Inter v Milan, hate to say it but i need Inter to win, so Juve can sleep well this night.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 15-01-2012, 18:01:59
Well, at least it was a good game to watch I must say!

I hope tonights clash between Inter and Zlatan will be the same!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 15-01-2012, 21:01:22
Oh man Liverpool have nothing when on the offense without Luis Suarez. Carroll is likely the worst purchase ever done between 2 PL clubs (taking price into account). Hell, even Torres actually runs and tries to fight, Carroll does nothing but stand still and whine.

Pool should get a proper striker that can score 15-25 goals per season. Huntelaar would be perfect. Would be a could combination with Suarez in a trequartista role, going deep picking up balls and delivering to Huntelaar.


Edit: Hell! I'd love to see Miroslav Klose in Liverpool! I think he would be perfect!  as a short-term solution of course.


Watching Milan - Zlatan right now, should be a really interesting game! Surprisingly, none of the teams got to present Tevez before this game.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 18-01-2012, 02:01:53
Im sick and tired of tevez.

Every fucking Hour, "Tevez Future is uncertain".

Damnit!

Just had a nice laugh. Apparently, a Juve fan puts Amauri for sale on eBay, and there was a bid of €10 Million, lmfao.

That guy is pathetic, he gets paid 70.000 Euros a week and he doesnt even play, Juventus Coach has separated him from the team. Fiorentina, Genoa are after this dude, but all transfer negociations seem to go down pretty quickly.

I even heard that he could move to Tottenham :|

What a silly guy.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 18-01-2012, 19:01:50
Real Madrid vs Barcelona tonight in the Spanish Cup!

 This coming weekend is gonna be a thriller.

Arsenal vs United, Spurs vs City.

Gear up!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 18-01-2012, 20:01:39
I think Arsenal is going over the top in wanting to sign Van Persie's son. Who is 5 years old.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 21-01-2012, 12:01:06
Norwich taking on Chelsea soon, come on Norwich!

Nothing major today but tomorrow the shit really hits the fan with Arsenal taking on United. That can be a real interesting fight.

City vs Spurs might be a real thriller but I think it will be a though game.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 22-01-2012, 01:01:46
I'll not say anything but except for this...

- Liverpool. Bolton. Wow.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 22-01-2012, 06:01:48
couldn't see tha game, was working. But what the hell Liverpool?! what is happening??
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 22-01-2012, 09:01:37
COOL! COOOL!

Juve 2 - 0 Atalanta and now its the winter champion.

Also Unbeaten Record of about 19 Games.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 22-01-2012, 10:01:59
Hey Tor, what's wrong with Krasic since Juventus is trying to sell him?

Soon, the shit really hits the fan.

Manchester City vs Spurs
Arsenal vs United

COME ON NORTH LONDON!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 22-01-2012, 22:01:36
Hey Tor, what's wrong with Krasic since Juventus is trying to sell him?

Soon, the shit really hits the fan.

Manchester City vs Spurs
Arsenal vs United

COME ON NORTH LONDON!

I dunno, he's not having a good season so far and it looks like he doesnt have a good relation with Conte.

Krasic is a great player, there are rumours of Fenerbaçe trying to get him on loan, just like they did with Felipe Melo.


I hate Man City, club with no soul, fans that throw their own colors into the garbage. Stupid club, i hope it crashes some day, and even more since Aguero is there!

Except for Balotelli tho, man, that guy makes me laugh alot!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 25-01-2012, 19:01:05
Awesome game Juventus 3 - 0 Roma !!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBBKFswDxn4

That guy is seriusly the best player i ever seen.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 25-01-2012, 20:01:18
That guy is seriusly the best player i ever seen.
Shame they want to ditch him, my wife is very angry about that! (She is a big fan of Juve since she was little.)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 25-01-2012, 23:01:56
Yeah, but i have hope that he will retire with a Scudetto in his hands.

Watching Barcelona - Madrid and i must admit that Pepe, Ramos, Coentrao, Lass, Ronaldo and Mourino must leave Madrid ASAP. Game was pretty much dominated by Madrid but then came Messi with a Brilliant pass to Pedro and then a superb goal by Alves.

Theres no hope for Madrid, and thats good.

Bai Bai, Madrid.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 26-01-2012, 00:01:47
Watching Barcelona - Madrid and i must admit that Pepe, Ramos, Coentrao, Lass, Ronaldo and Mourino must leave Madrid ASAP. Game was pretty much dominated by Madrid but then came Messi with a Brilliant pass to Pedro and then a superb goal by Alves.

Theres no hope for Madrid, and thats good.

Bai Bai, Madrid.

After this statement i have to say you understand nothing about football!

Have you ever played it in a competition ?  Did tyou see the game ?

Real Madrid is having its best season ever. Try to inform yourself before saying stupid things.  Statistics dont lie. Its simple. Just read. Need help ? Hire a personal teacher.

5 points ahead of the "mighty barcelona?" in the Liga.

They went to Camp Nou for the Cup after loosing 1-2 with no fear and where completly robbed by the referee. RMadrid would have won the match if it was not biased like it has happen for the last 3 years regarding Barcelona.

Barcelona his being carried by the refs for 3 straight years. Yes they play good, yes they have a great team and great players.
But having the referees playing by their side in all the big matches ( platini you fat bastard ) makes a big difference. 

 ;D

/football rant off

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 26-01-2012, 00:01:38
I dont understand nothing about football?

I live in football my friend, i played tournaments, i got into fights with my OWN FRIENDS when playing football, i think you're wrong my friend.

Review your post RAnDOOm, dont defend Madrid because its impossible to defend them, even Ronaldo is beign a dirty player now, look at the foul against Alves.

Mou should stop talking shit before matches and WIN A FUCKING MATCH VS BARCELONA, its annoying like Pele.

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Thorondor123 on 26-01-2012, 00:01:43
I'm not going to make fun of you raging over La Liga.

Or maybe I will.

LOL
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 26-01-2012, 00:01:54
I dont understand nothing about football?

I live in football my friend, i played tournaments, i got into fights with my OWN FRIENDS when playing football, i think you're wrong my friend.

Review your post RAnDOOm, dont defend Madrid because its impossible to defend them, even Ronaldo is beign a dirty player now, look at the foul against Alves.

Mou should stop talking shit before matches and WIN A FUCKING MATCH VS BARCELONA, its annoying like Pele.

Thats the confirmation.

You havent played real football in real life.

You say you play football and go to fights your friends and then complain about a little small foul ?

Dont me make laugh more please.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 26-01-2012, 00:01:50
If you get into fights when playing football, its because you feel football in your blood.

Its simple, you watch a different kind of football, assuming that you're from the US or Europe, you WATCH football, for you, Football is an spectacle, you turn your TV on, watch the game and then continue your life.

However, i live in Argentina, I FEEL FOOTBALL, when my club loses a derby i feel like i want to kill everyone, football is the only thing i have, my friend.

Go watch overrated EPL, sir. I bet you have no idea how our domestic football is, i bet you never went to a stadium to watch a match.

Call me stupid, call me whatever you want, but never say i dont know anything about football and never played a game in real life.


Gn  :)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 26-01-2012, 00:01:21
I get both your points, but agree with RAnDOOm.

Football is a fucking contact-sport.
 Of course Real Madrid play really dirty (lass tackle in the first half should have been a yellow card, at least), but football nowadays have gone too far.

Ronaldos tackle on alves (you mean the one in the first half, right? didn't watch second half) was never ever a yellow card in my book. He tackled with only 1 leg, he didn't have the soles of his shoe upwards, and most of all he touched THE BALL, not alves! Legit tackle.

Anyway, Scottish League > La Liga/Serie A simply cause of the fact that it's still a contact-sport in scotland.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 26-01-2012, 01:01:22
Dont forget that the ref was a coward when it comes to showing yellows and reds.

Ted, you mean the tackle on Messi?

If so, i have to agree. Messi tackled Pepe (He deserved it...) and he got booked, so comes Lass, tackles Messi with even more brutality, he was already booked, but Mr. Ref shows Yellow to Casillas, who also should stop whining too.


Referee showed some mercy on Madrid.

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 26-01-2012, 01:01:12
However, i live in Argentina, I FEEL FOOTBALL, when my club loses a derby i feel like i want to kill everyone, football is the only thing i have, my friend.

So only Argentines "FEEL football" or are absolutely devastated when their team loses?

What laughable pretentious bollocks. Every true supporter around the world is devastated when their team loses a derby. Not just Argetinian ones.


Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 26-01-2012, 01:01:17
However, i live in Argentina, I FEEL FOOTBALL, when my club loses a derby i feel like i want to kill everyone, football is the only thing i have, my friend.

So only Argentines "FEEL football" or are absolutely devastated when their team loses?

What laughable pretentious bollocks. Every true supporter around the world is devastated when their team loses a derby. Not just Argetinian ones.

Nope, South Americans feel football.

Watch a Boca - River, Racing - Independiente, Flamengo - Vasco da Gama or Conrinthias - Sao Paulo.

Then you'd understand when i said "Feeling football".

Football here is all about Passion, its more than a game.





Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 26-01-2012, 01:01:01
If you get into fights when playing football, its because you feel football in your blood.

Its simple, you watch a different kind of football, assuming that you're from the US or Europe, you WATCH football, for you, Football is an spectacle, you turn your TV on, watch the game and then continue your life.

However, i live in Argentina, I FEEL FOOTBALL, when my club loses a derby i feel like i want to kill everyone, football is the only thing i have, my friend.

Go watch overrated EPL, sir. I bet you have no idea how our domestic football is, i bet you never went to a stadium to watch a match.

Call me stupid, call me whatever you want, but never say i dont know anything about football and never played a game in real life.


Gn  :)

Torenico your a pretentious wannabe. Sorry to say, But either you are a big lair or your are just clueless.

Ive lived in all been over the world and i have watched football in all the good stadiums - Colombia, Mexico, Uruguay, Argentina, Brazil and all over Europe including Turkey, yes they take crazy. They do take it to another level.
Worked in Buenos Aires for almost 2 years. Went to la bombonera 16 times to watch games when i was there. So next time you want so assume something regarding another person, just stay quiet and listen....

All over the World people feel footbal, not just in South America.

So you say that Real Madrid played hard today ? and the referee did not had any influence ?

Barcelona keeps getting carried by the referees game after game after game. Uefa and Fifa also are behind them because they practice the so called "good football".

Football is about winning and scoring and thats it. No more no less.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 26-01-2012, 01:01:14
And how about you, RAnDOOm?

"So next time you want so assume something regarding another person, just stay quiet and listen...."

Quote
After this statement i have to say you understand nothing about football!

Quote
You havent played real football in real life.

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 26-01-2012, 01:01:54
You said that Madrid played hard ( when they played a normal game in Argentinian standards ), yet you are very passionate about the game.

Sorry but thats a contradiction in my book.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 26-01-2012, 02:01:50
HAHA.

Now we play dirty?

Of course Madrid played hard, but you should learn a bit more about Real Madrid history.

Did you know that they were one of the main teams that never approved dirty play? did you know that, trough history, Real Madrid played fair?

Do you realize that, comparing this RM with the RM of previous decades, this is the WORST MADRID of all time? Do you know that Real Madrid fans feel embarrased when they see a Madrid v Barcelona, because of the limited they've just reached? Of beign unable to beat Barcelona the conventional way, and now they're just down to tackle them?

If you feel Argentinians play dirty, i'll leave yourself with your own thoughts, that proves you didnt catch the idea of South American Football.

Peace.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 26-01-2012, 02:01:31
You are being very elitist and weird Torenico. Sure, Boca-Rivers is something extra, and south america is crazy about their football. But saying you have more passion for it is just stupid.

The team in my heart, AIK in Sweden. 2.25 for action
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_nS4DvB8i8
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 26-01-2012, 02:01:13
I wont continue anymore.

Tried to put some knowledge and common sense to the kid but its not possible.

Keep on going.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 26-01-2012, 02:01:23
I wont continue anymore.

Tried to put some knowledge and common sense to the kid but its not possible.

Keep on going.

Goodbye then.


Oh and btw, this is how we feel football.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDxCzTV1-fg&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBiPsVXeQIA

I was there and it was the best thing i ever seen in my life, losing 2-0, after a Maradona-Like goal from Martinez (Velez), it was all or nothing, we couldnt let Velez be the champions on our home, we did it in their own field and it was orgasmic.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Thorondor123 on 26-01-2012, 12:01:40

(http://leadingtheline.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/football-hooligan-training-camp-for-kids4.jpg)

Calm down. You look silly.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 26-01-2012, 21:01:18
Aight.



So, Juve has signed Martin Caceres from Sevilla, Uruguay International, used to play in Juve a few seasons ago but he was injured. Its a good signing, he was an interesting defender back then.

Also there are talks beign held with Aly Cissokho, very good player currently playing for Olympique Lyonnais. Happy to see Juve getting back to its old days.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 27-01-2012, 19:01:03
OK, I  don't like Barcelona. I might you say it right from the the start.

But it's not because they are good or something like that. It's just that I love a good underdog fight.

And Barcelona haven't been an underdog since God knows when.

That's why I am always rooting for Real Madrid in these 'El Classico' clashes.

Don't mind the fouls and the cards and the feelings. But damn it.

When both teams really played football, never seen such good football in a good while. Two of the best teams in the world with two of the best managers in the world.

Too bad they didn't play more football during those 90 minutes.

And yeah, I think the ref did a horrible job. I hate to say it and it is a lame excuse but yeah. Does Casillas get that fired up all the time or not? I have never seen him go off like that.

PS.

Watford vs Spurs tonight!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 27-01-2012, 23:01:58
Well these were some nice final 20 minutes on Watford match.

Like watford had nice possesion and Spurs got saved by miracle by Dawson i think it was an Cudicini.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 28-01-2012, 03:01:44
Yeah, I thought Watford was gonna close the deal for a draw in the end but no. I love my Spurs but damn, that game was boring and uneven. Watford deserved a goal and their possession was great in the first half. Lucky shot from VDV...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 29-01-2012, 13:01:26
Feyenoord vs Ajax, what a game!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 29-01-2012, 19:01:29
My Arsenal has finally had a good game and came back from 2-0 against aston villa to win 3-2. Helluva game. Two pks for arsenal, but both deserved.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 29-01-2012, 20:01:05
Feyenoord vs Ajax, what a game!
Woohoo! 4-2!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 29-01-2012, 20:01:39
Feyenoord vs Ajax, what a game!
Woohoo! 4-2!

(http://static.weltsport.net/bilder/spieler/gross/125671.jpg)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 29-01-2012, 22:01:02
Yes, he did it. You Swedes are gonna have some nice times with him in the national team!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 29-01-2012, 22:01:11
Yes, he did it. You Swedes are gonna have some nice times with him in the national team!
Yeah, he better be in our National Team this summer of I'm gonna root for Holland!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 31-01-2012, 21:01:27
So I am watching Man City vs Everton live, and a guy ran onto the pitch and handcuffed himself to the goalpost.... what in the hell?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 31-01-2012, 21:01:24
So I am watching Man City vs Everton live, and a guy ran onto the pitch and handcuffed himself to the goalpost.... what in the hell?

Ahahahaha!  ;D I hope there will be some Youtube vids later  :P
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 31-01-2012, 22:01:46
So after that guy was cut loose and arrested, everton beats man city 1-0 and turns the premierleague on it's head. Man utd back on top
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 31-01-2012, 23:01:26
What a goal from Bale, i want that guy in Juve!

Lmao, isnt Everton the team that barely wins a few matches in this season? like the flop of the season?

And they get to beat Man City, nice.

Parma - Juventus called off because of the weather, stupid, now Milan will get on top.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 31-01-2012, 23:01:42
So I am watching Man City vs Everton live, and a guy ran onto the pitch and handcuffed himself to the goalpost.... what in the hell?

It's a protest against Bill Kenwright, the owner.

A lot of Evertonians want the club to be sold and see him as a barrier.

Can't blame them to be honest but handcuffing yourself to a goal isn't going to get the majority of fans on your side.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 01-02-2012, 10:02:46
So I am watching Man City vs Everton live, and a guy ran onto the pitch and handcuffed himself to the goalpost.... what in the hell?
That was great, the Sky Sports commentators reactions made it even more special.

- What the...?
- I have never seen that
- Some sort or protest. I guess the police will have to get a hatcher or an axe
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: sheikyerbouti on 01-02-2012, 10:02:51
 So the Superbowl is this weekend,

you guys must be so excited about it, to have 52 pages dedicated to Football already.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Thorondor123 on 01-02-2012, 11:02:00
Ah but this is a football thread.

Shall I create an American rugby thread for you?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 01-02-2012, 17:02:55
So I am watching Man City vs Everton live, and a guy ran onto the pitch and handcuffed himself to the goalpost.... what in the hell?
That was great, the Sky Sports commentators reactions made it even more special.

- What the...?
- I have never seen that
- Some sort or protest. I guess the police will have to get a hatcher or an axe

I was watching it on Skysports too haha. "Never in my life have I seen something like this"

And all the players were just standing around confused
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 01-02-2012, 20:02:36
After speaking to a few people who were at the game, it appears it was a protest against his daughter losing her job with Ryanair  ???

What that has to do with Everton, I don't know.....
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 01-02-2012, 20:02:35
After speaking to a few people who were at the game, it appears it was a protest against his daughter losing her job with Ryanair  ???

What that has to do with Everton, I don't know.....
The first explanation you posted sounded a lot more logical. Well, as always in situations like this, a gazillion stories arise about the how and why. So let's start guessing which one is right!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 01-02-2012, 20:02:24
I'm sorry to go off-topic for a bit
So the Superbowl is this weekend,

you guys must be so excited about it, to have 52 pages dedicated to Football already.
Oh god tried to watch the superbowl 2 years ago. Never again. Most boring piece of shit I've ever watched. I clocked it all the time, 3-6 seconds of continous play before whistle is blown. Fuck that shit.



Anyway, very boring transfer-window this january. Me, i'm kinda opposed to the whole idea of a mid-season transfer window, but it's still usually exciting.
Oh and Liverpool is back on track! 3-0 against wolves, hell even carroll scored!
Bellamy is crazy!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 01-02-2012, 20:02:21
Haha, Andry Carroll.

Its like, how much money Liverpool wasted to buy Carroll? How much money Chelsea wasted to buy Torres?

Meanwhile in Newcastle, Ba scores lots of goals and they got it for free.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 01-02-2012, 21:02:50
Indeed. I was opposed to the carroll signing from day 1. With the exception of yesterdays game, carroll has been worthless since like, early october. Not only not scoring goals, but his attitude on the pitch and the limited runs he makes.

Very overpriced guy who scored a lot in Newcastle for 4 months in the Premier League, paying €35 million for such an untested player is crazy (could have got llorente or soldado for that money, and still have money left!).
Now Torres was not exactly a better purchase (Liverpool did the right thing letting him go, for that money). But at least he make good runs!

Demba Ba even has a release-clause if a club offers around €10 Million he gets to leave. But same thing there, he was decent in west ham, great in newcastle. Sure he's great, but once again: I want more than just 4 months of good play. Plus he has a really fragile leg.




Edit:
Oh and while i'm at it. I think liverpool NEEDS a new coach instead of Dalglish. He needs to be replaced, but in the most respectful manner possible and hopefully kept inside the club with another role. He has shown many weaknessess the last 6 months.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 01-02-2012, 21:02:01
Demba Ba Career according to Wikipedia:

Years         Team                  Apps†           (Gls)†
2005–2006         Rouen                    26            ( 22 )
2006–2007         Mouscron            12            ( 8 )
2007–2011         1899 Hoffenheim    97           ( 37 )
2011               West Ham United    12            ( 7 )
2011–         Newcastle United    19            ( 15 )
Thats quite good if you ask me.

But i would like to see him playing for an European Giant, you know, here we have a common say (Im pretty sure you guys too), about the weight of a shirt.

In my country its not the same to play for, Olimpo, who is commonly a Second Division club, than Racing, who was a massive fan base and very loyal. Many starts who were raised at Second Div. Clubs, or the group of the Smallers clubs dont do well in big clubs like Boca, River, Racing or Independient*.


Since i really dont like EPL, i can imagine that the biggest clubs are, Man United, Arsenal, Tottenham, Chelsea and Liverpool, no? Hows the "5 Biggest" table? Whos the biggest biggest and so on..
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 01-02-2012, 21:02:32
Oh and while i'm at it. I think liverpool NEEDS a new coach instead of Dalglish. He needs to be replaced, but in the most respectful manner possible and hopefully kept inside the club with another role. He has shown many weaknessess the last 6 months.

Care to elaborate on these "many weaknesses"?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 01-02-2012, 22:02:56
Stupid fucking Arsenal... can never close a win. I am pisssed
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 01-02-2012, 23:02:55
Care to elaborate on these "many weaknesses"?
scratch 'many', it fell in there. My biggest problem is the players he brought in, and for that kind of money. Bellamy = stroke of genius. Adam came fairly 'cheap' but then again, he hasn't exactly lived up to what he showed in blackpool. When it comes to transfers i'm mainly mad about carroll and henderson. I welcome henderson, but only as a bench-warmer. I like downing a lot, but overpriced too (for the same amount of money, we could have got Juan Mata).

Liverpool hasn't played as good as was expected and planned. I'm not saying it's all Dalglishes fault, Lucas injury was a heavy blow, and Suarez suddenly lost the ability to score like he did in Ajax.

I want a coach that is more of a leader than I feel Dalglish is. And even though I like the thought of 'only' english players, it doesn't work like that anymore.

"many weaknesses" might have been unjustified though.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 02-02-2012, 17:02:53
So, how FUBAR is a transfer window when Sky Sports pitch for not changing the channel during the last minutes of the deadline is the fact that they might know where Bassong will be playing the rest of the season? That's FUBAR beyond FUBAR. Bassong is shit.

#Glory-days-of-Transfer-Windows-come-back
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 02-02-2012, 19:02:56
I agree rawhide, half the people traded I had to wiki them, just to find out what position they even played. Where are my big name loans and trades? And Arsenal, why u no get better defense? :(
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 02-02-2012, 20:02:43
Care to elaborate on these "many weaknesses"?
scratch 'many', it fell in there. My biggest problem is the players he brought in, and for that kind of money. Bellamy = stroke of genius. Adam came fairly 'cheap' but then again, he hasn't exactly lived up to what he showed in blackpool. When it comes to transfers i'm mainly mad about carroll and henderson. I welcome henderson, but only as a bench-warmer. I like downing a lot, but overpriced too (for the same amount of money, we could have got Juan Mata).

Liverpool hasn't played as good as was expected and planned. I'm not saying it's all Dalglishes fault, Lucas injury was a heavy blow, and Suarez suddenly lost the ability to score like he did in Ajax.

I want a coach that is more of a leader than I feel Dalglish is. And even though I like the thought of 'only' english players, it doesn't work like that anymore.

"many weaknesses" might have been unjustified though.

I'll give you credit, that's a better answer than I was expecting.

However, regarding the transfers most of those fall at the feet of Damien Comolli rather than Kenny. Whilst he does have some say, Kenny isn't ultimately the one who can say "yes" or "no" to a transfer and he certainly doesn't dicate how much is spent.

After the Hicks and Gillet fiasco and the sickening 6 months under Hodgson, this season was always going to be about getting Liverpool going in the right direction. With a bunch of new players this can take time.

After recent performances I think it's fair to say you're not going to get more of a leader than Kenny when it comes to Liverpool - he lives for the club and inspires the players and fans. It's still only just gone halfway through the season, with Suarez coming back and Carrol finding form the Champions League spot is still possible.

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 02-02-2012, 20:02:00
Good news for Juve.

Milan lost 2-0 against Lazio, wich is great since Juventus has 44pts and Milan 43pts, but Juve has one less match.

IF Juve beats Siena this weekend, 4 pts difference on Milan, and on February 25 Milan v Juve, desicive match.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 05-02-2012, 19:02:20
Chelsea - ManU 3-3  -what a match! Chelsea was leading 3-0 and... Howard Webb showed his skills again!  ;D

Tomorrow Liverpool - Tottenham! Time for revenge!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 06-02-2012, 11:02:26
Zlatan Ibrahimovic has been sent off during the Milan vs Lazio yesterday

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2012/2/5/1328466025410/AC-Milan-vs-SSC-Napoli-007.jpg)

Meanwhile in Wisconsin...

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IX8poG1JX9c/TIdoHfRVJ7I/AAAAAAAADlU/ctEWRa7NC2I/s800/dumbass.jpg)

Seriously, I'm a great fan of Zlatan. I love it when he plays football and I love his style and attitude.

But face it, he'll never win anything great with actions like this.

Now he might miss the game against Juventus. Fail.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 06-02-2012, 13:02:49
And tonight...

Liverpool vs Tottenham

Last time these giants saw each other was in the early start of this season, back in North London on White Hart Lane. That ended 4-0 to Tottenham after Liverpool had been given a red card on Charlie Adam who did not have the best day on the pitch. Another player that got some spotlight that day was Scott Parker, the old West Ham player was one of the best players in Tottenham that game and also one of the players who ran the most during that game but also one of the players with most contact with the ball.

This brawl tonight will go down in another way if you ask me. There are several stars in the Spurs line-up that has been dragging with small light injuries for some time. And Liverpool is back in action after a session of bad luck and few goals.

But I hope it's a good game! This match the previous season on Anfield between Liverpool and Spurs was one of the most entertaining games from that PL Season in my book. Full attack from both teams ended in a 1-2 win for Spurs then.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 06-02-2012, 13:02:53
Looking forward to it so much.
Liverpool basically have a full squad, Lucas Leiva is pretty much the only injury.
And Suarez is back from his ban! I do hope to see him and Bellamy together, but I think carroll will start.

Tottenham has been close to amazing this year so far. Effective and overall much better than last year, they win the games they need to. Plus they play really good football.

Will be such a great game!

My guess, to be optimistic: 1-0 to liverpool, goal by Suarez.

Now i'm off to place some bets!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 06-02-2012, 13:02:04
I tried looking up Spurs injured players at the moment and a lot of the names that Harry Redknapp mentioned earlier as 'Doubtful' to tonight's game are not in there. Usually they are always listed as injured no matter how light or hard the injury might be and even if they doubtful to make the next game.

Strange. Might we see Spurs A players through out the 11 man squad? Maybe!

I hope and pray for a Spurs win once again. If everything goes well Harry can close down the game with the help from Sandro. He's a resource Spurs have used too little this season. Even though he has been injured.

EDIT: Good bets on Spurs tonight, Liverpool win or a draw is far more boring then a Spurs win. 3,40 on a Spurs win, that's gold!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 06-02-2012, 14:02:30
Wow 3.40?! My bets are on spurs!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Eglaerinion on 06-02-2012, 16:02:12
Suarez is back for Liverpool though.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 06-02-2012, 16:02:00
Suarez is back for Liverpool though.

And Suarez is back from his ban! I do hope to see him and Bellamy together, but I think carroll will start.

Indeed he is. I hope really hope liverpool will win, but this game could go any way. Liverpool unbeaten at anfield this season though
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 06-02-2012, 18:02:16
Zlatan Ibrahimovic has been sent off during the Milan vs Lazio yesterday

(http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Football/Pix/pictures/2012/2/5/1328466025410/AC-Milan-vs-SSC-Napoli-007.jpg)

Meanwhile in Wisconsin...

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IX8poG1JX9c/TIdoHfRVJ7I/AAAAAAAADlU/ctEWRa7NC2I/s800/dumbass.jpg)

Seriously, I'm a great fan of Zlatan. I love it when he plays football and I love his style and attitude.

But face it, he'll never win anything great with actions like this.

Now he might miss the game against Juventus. Fail.

I think im starting to hate him, i believe in the future he will be like Pelé, saying that Neymar is better than Messi and the old Santos were better than this Barcelona.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 07-02-2012, 01:02:33
The winner in liverpool vs Tottenham.... The cat.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 07-02-2012, 07:02:30
Man, that game was long and boring.

 Liverpool and Spurs have a lot in common. They both have a great midfield but the attack ain't the best.

And Scott Parker, seriously you are running to much over pitch.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 09-02-2012, 00:02:42
Milan 1 - 2 Juve

Both goals by Caceres.

(http://punitjajo.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/meme_me_gusta.jpg)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 09-02-2012, 16:02:24
Capello quits!

 Redknapp stepping in?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 09-02-2012, 20:02:23
Capello quits!

 Redknapp stepping in?

Yeah, I was quiter shocked when I heard this in TV... Not so much time before Euro and they're changing coach? But, if Harry become the new coach, I think England can achieve something in the tournament at last...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 09-02-2012, 20:02:17
Redknapp goes for England, Mourinho in for Tottenham.

You heard it here first.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: G.Drew on 09-02-2012, 20:02:51
1000/1 the cat gets the England job.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 11-02-2012, 10:02:08
Some great games today!

Manchester United gets a visit from Liverpool and Tottenham will take on Newcastle later tonight. Sunderland and Arsenal also having a go.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 11-02-2012, 16:02:59
Ipswich vs Middlesbourgh was stopped after 37 minutes into the first half.

Why?

Because the referees thought that the field was unplayable.

Maybe should have thought of that before the game?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 12-02-2012, 03:02:22
- How will Arsenal survive the last games of the season without Henry?

- Adebayor was on fire!

- Saha. Two goals in the first home game. Who said he was old? (I did)

- Chelsea couldn't score shit against Everton. One of the most boring games I have seen. Thank God, Everton kept the pace and scored two goals. Pienaar was one of the goal scorers!

- QPR, when will you stop fooling around?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 12-02-2012, 23:02:12
Anyone saw final of African Championship, Zambia - Ivory Coast?

What a game! if this summers european final is half as entertaining, I'll be more than happy.
Best and most entertaining 0-0 game I've ever seen (a wonder that the scoreboard said 0-0 in the 120th minute). And really exciting penalties, went wasn't decided until the 8th penalty.
Of course I cheered for the underdog, Zambia. So happy that they won in the end. Young kids, many whom likely don't make a living of football, the biggest star playing in Nancy in france, against Ivory Coast with Drogba, Kalou, Touré-brothers, Tioté etc.

And once again I realize that Drogba is one of my absolute favourite players. Great player, and a true gentleman. Seems so much like a fatherfigure. Hell, one of the zambian players were injured, Drogba held him and helped the crying Zambian off the pitch. What a great guy
Too bad he plays for chelsea
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 14-02-2012, 15:02:58
3 notes I'll make:

1. The African cup final made me realize why I love this game so much.

2. Eden Hazard seems very close to Tottenham, I'm a bit surprised. Had hoped he'd go to liverpool. Great buy if they get him. But I can't see him taking a starting place with todays squad. Modric for sale in summer?

3. CHAMPIONS LEAGUE, Finally it's here. The group-stages have always been boring, now in the knockout-stages is when the real excitement takes place! Arsenal - Milan tomorrow will be intense
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 15-02-2012, 22:02:40
Arsenal... is being absolutely destroyed by AC Milan.... I am sad this day
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 15-02-2012, 23:02:41
Why was Arsenal so terribly bad? They had like 3 chances in the entire match???

I'm not against AC Milan particularly (although I loathe their owner), but this wasn't a match. This was a nice evening of playing ball for the Milanisti.

Oh, and 10000 kudos for the second Zenit goal! Wonderful!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 16-02-2012, 18:02:41
Spring of 2011...

AC Milan vs Tottenham, 0-1

Spring of 2012...

AC Milan vs Arsenal, 4-0

And in the league right now...

Tottenham, third place with 53 points.

Arsenal, fourth place with 43 points.

A song for you Gunners: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYQZSDOWwww
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 16-02-2012, 19:02:47
y u so mean? :(
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 16-02-2012, 20:02:34
y u so mean? :(
Why arsenal suck? :(



Must have been a looooong night of celebration for some people when Zambia won this sunday:
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2012/02/prostitutes-offer-free-services-to-celebrate-chipolopolo/
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 16-02-2012, 21:02:55
y u swedes so evil?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 17-02-2012, 19:02:12
y u swedes so evil?

Dont worry Arsenal, after all, Arsenal has beaten Tottenham more times in history, like:

Arsenal 68 - Tottenham 50

Like we say in Argentina, Arsenal father of Tottenham.


Dont get offended.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 17-02-2012, 21:02:37
Tomorrow, is arsenal and sunderland....my gf is visiting and Im making her get up for it whether she wants to or not
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 18-02-2012, 22:02:04
Tomorrow, is arsenal and sunderland....my gf is visiting and Im making her get up for it whether she wants to or not
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/096/044/trollface.jpg?1296494117)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 18-02-2012, 23:02:44
Well...maybe theyll fire arsene wenger and we can be happy again
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 19-02-2012, 01:02:42
Great Victory for Juve, 3-1 on Catania with a great Freekick goal by Pirlo.

Next weekend Juve-Milan!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 20-02-2012, 01:02:16
So i was watching Godoy Cruz - Racing Club today my neighbours called the police because i was literally screaming at the TV.

So they came to my house and asked if everything was OK, i said yes, i was just watching Racing.

And they left.


wtf men.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 20-02-2012, 02:02:58
I am surprised nobody has come here yet to talk about Liverpool vs Brighton....well let me discuss it!


Ok first, liverpool won 6-1.

Brighton had 3 own goals, 2 of which by the same guy. And the other one was by a guy trying to juggle the ball, it was embarassing.

Also, there was a saved PK by the brighton goalie against stupid suarez

Also! A streaker managed to get on the field, and in the camera. I saw Bald man cock!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 20-02-2012, 09:02:29
Tottenham continue their weak FA Cup games. 0-0 against Stevenage. Extremely weak effort from Spurs in the first half, a little bit better in the second one but nothing major.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 20-02-2012, 11:02:25
(http://www.totallynorwich.co.uk/images/football-banner.jpg)

This weeks games in Premier League!

Chelsea vs Bolton
Newcastle vs Wolves
Q.P.R. vs Fulham
WBA vs Sunderland
Wigan vs Aston Villa
Man City vs Blackburn
Liverpool vs Everton
Arsenal vs Tottenham
Stoke vs Swansea
Norwich vs Man Utd
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 20-02-2012, 22:02:34
Liverpool vs Everton
Arsenal vs Tottenham

I'll watch them definately!!!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 20-02-2012, 22:02:57
Everton and Liverpoool do not play this weekend. Liverpool is in the carling cup final
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 20-02-2012, 22:02:49
Ah... The final will be ours!!!  ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 21-02-2012, 05:02:48
So i was just looking at some article on goal.com and then i seen this:

Chelsea striker Fernando Torres: 'I cannot score'

hahaha. This guy is unique.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 24-02-2012, 23:02:29
Tomorrow, Juve v Milan.

Ibra wont play, he deserves it for beign an idiot.

FORZA JUVE
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 25-02-2012, 00:02:01
Man, I'm so bummed that Zlatan won't be in on this. He deserves to miss this but still...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 25-02-2012, 01:02:52
Meh, he played on the Coppa Italia match and all he did was slapping Storari in the face.

Anyways, Zlatan vs Chiellini are epic duels.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 25-02-2012, 17:02:01
QPR is going down
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 25-02-2012, 23:02:42
Amazing fight back by Juve!!! beign 1-0 down and Matri saving the day with a last minute goal!!, now i hope Racing Club give me a nice victory to end this week!

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 26-02-2012, 11:02:44
There's only one game today.

North London Derby.

Arsenal vs Tottenham
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 26-02-2012, 12:02:51
There's only one game today.

North London Derby.

Arsenal vs Tottenham
Cardiff City - Liverpool FC


This is turning out absolutely perfect. I will watch London derby, which should end at about 16:45, then at 17:00 Cardiff-Liverpool starts.

These are also the only chances left for me to win at my bets this weekend. Time for Liverpool to get a title!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 26-02-2012, 15:02:50
My heart can't take more action from the North London Derby

45 minutes to go!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Eglaerinion on 26-02-2012, 15:02:38
Shameful penalty decision. Arsenal deserve to lead by half time. Will have to show the same spirit in the second half to win.

Edit: great match, hopefully this result will give Arsenal some confidence.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 26-02-2012, 16:02:48
We're the only team in Londonnnnnnnn

Arsenal rocked today, simply stunning. Well their defense sucks ass, but who needs it when you score 5 goals!!!!!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 26-02-2012, 20:02:33
I gotta say, Arsenal was the better team straight through.

Too bad the whole North London Derby spirit disappeared in the 2nd half. These games are often pretty even through the whole game but this time Arsenal really took the command.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 26-02-2012, 20:02:33
Poor cardiff city, I was really rooting for them, but they just did not have the confidence in the PKs...Still, 2 great footie matches in a row? Awesome day. Worth getting up at 7:30am for Arsenal
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 01-03-2012, 03:03:31
Two fun international friendlies today

USA beat Italy, in Italy, for the first time in History.

And Netherlands and England played a thrilling 3-2 game with Nederland taking the win in the 92' minute
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 01-03-2012, 09:03:25
And France won with Germany in Berlin??!! WTF?!?!?  :o
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 01-03-2012, 10:03:31
And Sweden won over Croatia, in Croatia! <o>
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Eglaerinion on 01-03-2012, 19:03:40
Two fun international friendlies today

USA beat Italy, in Italy, for the first time in History.

And Netherlands and England played a thrilling 3-2 game with Nederland taking the win in the 92' minute
That collision between Smalling and Huntelaar was scary to watch. Luckily both players got away with minor injuries it seems.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 01-03-2012, 19:03:42
Last I knew smalling was taken to the hospital, is he out?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 01-03-2012, 22:03:59
About Smalling: England's caretaker manager Stuart Pearce said: 'Chris went to hospital. I spoke with him and he was conscious, but he split his head open.' (got this from dailymail.co.uk)

About Huntelaar: they feared he might have a concussion, but he didn't. He is allright and can play again this weekend.

About the game: only saw the goals later, I think it's nice for the Dutch team to win again, especially nice for Robben since he has to deal with this BS in Germany lately. The English team holds some promise for the future, as some of their younger players were doing OK.


edit:

@ Smalling, he doesn't have a concussion, bit he does have an open head wound and he probably can't play vs Spurs this weekend. On Saturday Ferguson will decide whether or not to put Smalling into the selection for the Spurs-game.

@ Huntelaar, he cannot play this weekend after all, the doctors told him to rest for two days. So no training, no game. Apparently he had a light concussion after all, so he said accroding to one site, but a different site states that he doesn't have a concussion. Next Thursday he'll probably be able to play in the Euro league vs FC Twente if nothing changes.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 03-03-2012, 16:03:06
Liverpool - Arsenal
corners: 12-0
possession 57-43 (or sth like that)
dont remember shots statistics
result: 1-2

OMG....

Wasted penalty by Kuyt - priceless....
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 03-03-2012, 16:03:53
I missed the first 35 minutes of the second half, why was there 8 minutes extra-time?

After 25 minutes, it could have been 3-0 to Liverpool... Now that 4th place is most certainly out of reach.

Real impressive penalty-save by Szczesny. And van Persie once again proves that he most likely is the best forward in the world right now.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 03-03-2012, 16:03:53
Arteta was knocked out cold
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 03-03-2012, 22:03:06
Yeah arteta just accidently ran into a liverpool man and was knocked unconcious and they had to take him off with a stretcher and oxygen. Arsenal didn't deserve the win, but it's a silly game. Arsenal's offense is wicked, defense makes me cry. Liverpool has no offense, or at least no shooting boots on. And Szczesny was wicked today
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 04-03-2012, 00:03:09
Yep was a great double save from Kuyt's penalty.

Liverpool totally dominated but, like you said, just can't put the ball in the back of the net. The bastards are sending me to an early grave with these shots against the woodwork  ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 04-03-2012, 00:03:29
Everytime suarez touched the ball he did wonders, until he got near goal
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 04-03-2012, 12:03:32
He definitely deserves a better strike partner than Carroll

Looking forward to Tottenham - United later today!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 04-03-2012, 16:03:08
AVB got sacked this afternoon. 1-0 loss away at West Bromwich was the last drop for the owners. Chelsea's assistant manager will take over the rest of the season. Doubt it will help their situation I'm afraid.

Spurs vs United in just a few minutes, VDV and Bale missing for Tottenham.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 04-03-2012, 16:03:26
Nah I don't think it will help.

The first fault they made was to sack Ancelotti, with the reasoning that he "only" finished second in PL and didn't reach CL final. Look at them now.
In hindsight, I'd have to say AVB was a wrong move for Chelsea. From what I've seen, he differs from Mourinho in that he focuses more on offensive, especially high-lying defenders. I don't think he is suitable for the premier league.
Still, Abramovich spent so much money on AVB and the expectations were so high, that he should have gotten more time.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 04-03-2012, 19:03:44
Tottenham why!? You had as many shots as a hockey game and you lost, badly! :(
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 06-03-2012, 22:03:10
NO ARSENAL DONT DO IT!!!

As long as Milan stays in Champions, IT WILL BE BETTER FOR JUVE!!

Stop it NONONONO.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 06-03-2012, 22:03:25
Great game!

Quote skysports: Football never fails to entertain.

Arsenal did real good. With the score 3-0 at halftime I was certain Arsenal would be the team to advance.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 06-03-2012, 23:03:19
Arsenal lost it themselves, 3-0 at half, exactly what they needed. But Alex Song, Sanga, and Gervinho, suck dick balls. Hate them. Get rid of them. Song didn't do fuck all game, he kept passing it to Milan and just. GAH
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 07-03-2012, 02:03:34
Cant belieive it, a few days ago a Southafrican team beat 24-0 another SA team on their FA cup thingy, another result like that is Australia 32 - 0 American Samoa... well i thought that was the biggest win of all time BUT...


AS Adema 149 - 0 SO l'Emyrne  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AS_Adema_149%E2%80%930_SO_l%27Emyrne) in the Madagascar League, all own goals.


Just when you thought you have seen everything.....
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Capten_C on 11-03-2012, 18:03:23
With 60 mins play I put £20 on the Swans to win @ 11/2 Livebet. Just checked the result!  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTSA_sWGM44)!  :D  ;D


GOOOOOOOAAAAAL! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zxzuzb4OD-Y)

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 13-03-2012, 01:03:41
Arsenal wins 2-1 in a late late late goal!!!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 13-03-2012, 20:03:08
Yes, that was a nice match! Today Liverpool derby!!!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Smiles on 13-03-2012, 22:03:48
Erm basel? Hellooowwwww? Bayern is still playing but where are you?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 13-03-2012, 22:03:03
Everton did not show up to play today
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 14-03-2012, 00:03:44
Just got back from the match, absolutely made up!

I know many Everton fans in work tomorrow will be fuming about Moyes' team selection. They got what they deserved for putting that XI out.

Liverpool are magic, Everton are tragic LA LA LA LA  ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 21-03-2012, 06:03:56
Fuck off Milan, Juve's now on Finals (Talking about Coppa Italia).

Thank you very much Mr. Mirko Vucinic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTk0pRVXd2w
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 25-03-2012, 20:03:42
Derby d'Italia today.

Must watch.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 26-03-2012, 01:03:01
Great Old Firm derby today, 3-2 Rangers over celtic with 3 straight reds.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 26-03-2012, 02:03:47
So this might be the last Derby for Del Piero, and he scored.

Good win.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Eglaerinion on 26-03-2012, 11:03:47
Ajax back in the title race!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgVDHjJ5Yw4
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 26-03-2012, 18:03:44
Ajax back in the title race!
LOL, we can say that about any team in the top 6 every week, and then next week it is totally different again  ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Smiles on 26-03-2012, 21:03:30
Nope, Ajax will win.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 27-03-2012, 11:03:54
FA Cup tonight once again, Spurs vs Bolton. Fabrice Muamba is getting better and better since the last time they tried to play the game and he got a cardiac arrest on the pitch.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 27-03-2012, 19:03:54
Nope, Ajax will win.
So I fear, yes.  :(
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 29-03-2012, 00:03:06
Okay so angry rant aimed at Liverpools coach Kenny Dalglish upcoming.


So I know he's a legend. And I have the utmost respect for Kenny Dalglish.
But as a liverpool supporter, I want him to leave the position as headcoach as soon as the final game of the season is played.
Now, I mentioned this earlier in this thread, and commented only on his actions on the transfer market.
But a couple of months later, I feel he has only proven himself more incompetent as headcoach in these times. I won't mention the transfers, as that has been mentioned before.

1. His in-game coaching.
In the games, he constantly plays Jordan Henderson (who obviously is a centre-midfielder) on the right wing, a position in which he continously shows that if we bought him as a winger, we should have payed 2m € and not 21m€. He waits far too long before making substitutions, and when he does he makes the most odd substitutions. This weekends loss against Wigan, the only liverpool player who threatened the Wigan defence, Luis Suarez, was taken off. The very same in the game against QPR.

2. His choice of squad.
Charlie Adam has been questionable to say the least. Jordan henderson in his wing position keeps is still worthless. Downing has been far from worthy of a first-11 place. Carragher capability is rapidly decreasing, he is now a real liability but keeps on playing. Yet all of these (downing being the one rotating the most if i'm not mistaken) have practically been garantued to start, as if to prove that his own signings were worth the money.
All the while, players like Maxi Rodriguez, Craig Bellamy and Dirk Kuyt, have been really good whenver they have had a chance to play. Maxi was really good this fall, but now he's not even on the bench.
One of kennys problems here is that he changes a winning team. Bellamy had great form, suddenly he disappears from the starting 11. Same with kuyt and maxi.

Take Andy Carroll as an example. Though he hasn't scored many goals, in the last games he was in the starting eleven, these were liverpools results WWDWWWW. The last games where he has not started are DDDLLLLLL.

Hell, Reina is probably having the worst season so far in Liverpool with some doubtful actions. While a real experienced keeper in Doni has never been given a chance in a single game. Why not let him play some game and prove that no one is guaranteed a spot in liverpool.


3. His attitude
He continues to whine all the time. He has been far from a good representative of LFC. He made some really bad statements about the Suarez-Evra controversy.
But worst has been the latest weeks where he keeps on saying that the FA's game-schedule is unacceptable.
While I agree that playing 3 games in 7 days is way too much, there is nothing we can do about it. That's the price for going far in both cups like 'pool has done.

This goes back to his choice of squad.
In these 3 games he never changed the starting 11.
Carragher, who has been one of or worst players honestly, he started all these 3 games. At least 1 on the right back. Seriously, it's crazy to blame these losses at the schedule when you insist on playing a 34 year old centreback for 3 consecutive games, especially when you got young great talents such as Flanagan and Coates on the bench.
Which brings me up to another point. Why does he seemingly refuse to give the young players a chance to play? Liverpool has some great talents in Shelvey, Sterling, Flanagan and others who never get to play. I say bring in a young and hungry player, we're in 7th place in the league and have honestly nothing to lose.

Sterling got some play time against wigan, but that's only because recently tottenham has shown some interest in him.




Now, Kenny is a legend and I do not want him to get fired. I want him to be replaced, given a different position at the club perhaps, or I want him to step down by himself.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 29-03-2012, 18:03:53
So after one full season in charge you want the man out of the job?

Today's generation of football fans expect instant success when that takes time.

It took Alex Ferguson a full 5 seasons before he looked anywere near close to a title. This amount of time allowed him to build a strong squad with players coming and going until he was satisfied with what he had.

Yes some of the big signings (Carroll, Downing, Henderson) have been disappointing. Yes Liverpool aren't doing well in the league. However, they have already won some silverwear and could be on for some more if their good cup form continues.

I think over the summer a few shrewd signings combined with a few players leaving the club will leave Liverpool in a strong position to challenge for the top 4 next year. I just don't want to see another manager come in and have to start this building process all over again.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 29-03-2012, 19:03:58
Yes I want him out of the job.

Oh but you are mistaken, I am one of the people who most strongly proclaim that managers should be given more time than they are. Building a new team, which has been the case in for example Villas-Boas' case, takes more than 6 months, it takes several years.

While many players have been far from successful (to put it nicely), I am not complaining on how they are doing. And I'm not ONLY critizising the transfers (though some of them were, as stated many times, more than overpriced). Nor am I complaining about how the team is playing really, tactically Dalglish is doing a pretty good job in my opinion. However, his good tactics are rendered useless when he chooses to play henderson on the wing instead of Kuyt or Maxi.

I complain on Dalglish because of his attitude and questionable statements to the media, and because of the team he chooses to put on the field. Two areas in which I see no way of him improving, he is who he is (or, you can't teach an old dog to sit). Even if Liverpool does some wise signings this summer, this won't change. Dalglish will keep changing a winning team, keep players who are in good form on the bench.

Also, don't forget that the victory against Cardiff in the Carling Cup final was far from comfortable, they were honestly more deserving of the title.


I'm all for giving a coach 5+ years to prove themselves, but Dalglish has sadly passed his best-before-date. When he took over liverpool last january, he had not coached a team since 2000. Then he had Celtic for 1 year, and before that a less successful spell at Newcastle.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 29-03-2012, 21:03:38
There is nothing wrong with his attitude.

Dalglish is hated by the media because he doesn't pander to their typical sensationalist agendas . He is smarter than them and they hate him for it.

Every sly little journalist in the country has had a dig at Liverpool this past year and Kenny Dalglish isn't going to just sit their and entertain these shitehawks.

When Liverpool bring in some new blood this will allow him to improve the team selections he makes. I don't understand why Maxi hasn't featured more but there could be something going on behind the scenes.

In the end, regardless of performance, Cardiff ended up second best and you have to give Liverpool credit for that. Kenny knows the game inside out and has always stayed active within it even when he hasn't been managing. Time doesn't change this understanding.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 29-03-2012, 23:03:06
100% agree with Tedacious... I know, that we don't have team good enough for top6, but loosing at home with the team from the bottom of the table is something ridiculous!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 30-03-2012, 00:03:05
100% agree with Tedacious... I know, that we don't have team good enough for top6, but loosing at home with the team from the bottom of the table is something ridiculous!
Though this isn't my point. While I do think the results lately have been real bad, I'd say that the squad and starting 11 liverpool has played with isn't much better than a 7th place in the league.
So in a way, it's not the results that disappoint me, but how Dalglish acts (or doesn't act) following these losses.


There is nothing wrong with his attitude.

Dalglish is hated by the media because he doesn't pander to their typical sensationalist agendas . He is smarter than them and they hate him for it.

Every sly little journalist in the country has had a dig at Liverpool this past year and Kenny Dalglish isn't going to just sit their and entertain these shitehawks.

When Liverpool bring in some new blood this will allow him to improve the team selections he makes. I don't understand why Maxi hasn't featured more but there could be something going on behind the scenes.

In the end, regardless of performance, Cardiff ended up second best and you have to give Liverpool credit for that. Kenny knows the game inside out and has always stayed active within it even when he hasn't been managing. Time doesn't change this understanding.
He may not be loved by the media, but I'm not taking my stand about his attitude from the media, but from direct quotations of him.
Repeatedly whining and blaming these losses on the FA for their scheduling (when it's too late to change it) instead of doing the best out of it by adapting (as in rotating players, playing talents while resting key-players).
As I said, he also gave some clumsy statements about the Suarez-Evra affair, which I can't recall out of memory at the moment.

I find it very hard to believe that something's happened behind the scenes concerning Maxi, from what I've seen he's the most down to earth player in all of liverpool.
And what happened to Bellamy? He was in superb form in january, then suddenly disappeared from the team.
When 33 year-old carragher is tired and playing badly, why not let Coates play?


Of course he knows the game. I still want him at the club, but not as manager. Perhaps as an assistant manager, with a roll as advisor and player-contact or something along those lines.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 31-03-2012, 14:03:05
All he said during the Suarez affair was that he was supporting our player - nothing wrong with that and any criticism of the FA is entirely justified as the organisation is a joke. If Suarez was called "Smith" or "John Terry" he wouldn't have been treated the same way.

It's well known Bellamy's fitness is poor due to his bad knees - there is a reason he can't play a lot and was bought on a free as well.

As for Maxi, he's been linked with a move out the club for sometime now so that could be influencing Kenny's decision to not play him as much. He is still a quality player though I and hope he features tomorrow if Bellamy can't.

Coates is a class act and Carragher should be phased out from tomorrow's game onwards, injuries permitting, so I agree with you on that point.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 01-04-2012, 05:04:16
Oh but you are mistaken, I am one of the people who most strongly proclaim that managers should be given more time than they are. Building a new team, which has been the case in for example Villas-Boas' case, takes more than 6 months, it takes several years.

While many players have been far from successful (to put it nicely), I am not complaining on how they are doing. And I'm not ONLY critizising the transfers (though some of them were, as stated many times, more than overpriced). Nor am I complaining about how the team is playing really, tactically Dalglish is doing a pretty good job in my opinion. However, his good tactics are rendered useless when he chooses to play henderson on the wing instead of Kuyt or Maxi.

Agree! If only other coach was given privilege like Sir Alex Ferguson and Arsene Wenger.



Today I reviewed World Cup 2006 finals.

It was a pretty good match between Italy and France. Although I'm not sure if Italy was at its best form. I thought, Euro 2000/World Cup 2002 Italy was the very best, but they didn't win anyway. France also saw reduced strength from World Cup 1998, I didn't see strong defender line ups as before (they had Deschamps, Lizarazu, Candela, Thuram), only Thuram left there and he is aging. Surprisingly, we saw many Italian offensive here (more than usual).

We saw Malouda dove around the penalty area once (awarded), and fouled once (not awarded), so the penalty was a little bit alright. Overall, the French are pretty much solid, except their defensive line. Italy on the other hand is also displayed much better play than they were years ago, offering quite a challenge for the France. We saw 3 near miss attempt from Toni and Pirlo.

But then, speaking of WC2006 finals, one can't forget Zidane's headbutt to Materazzi and the controversies that follows. Media played biggest part here with their quick-money-making and quoting dubious source. It garnered negative publicity towards European as a whole, because the first issue that arose was bigotry. But then, it was clarified to be different matter, which is a family business. But the damage is done, 6 years later and still people belief the wrong story.

It may tainted Italian's 2006 championship title, but alas, I still view it as alright. At that time, their domestic competition is suffering from major bribery scandal that resulted in many Serie-A clubs relegated into lower divisions league.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 01-04-2012, 13:04:48
Today I reviewed World Cup 2006 finals.
Don't you mean "rewatched"? I mean, reviewing it 6 years after would be a little late, wouldn't it? ;)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 02-04-2012, 17:04:15
Another Liverpool defeat.... However, who knows how the game would have ended if Carroll had decided to shoot on empty goal insted of simulating, or if referree had seen this obbvious hand in the penalty box - penalty for Liverpool and red card for Simpson...

Funny red card for Reina  ;D At least, Doni will play at last next match  :P
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 02-04-2012, 19:04:34
Damn Milan, they MUST lose a game soon, Juve's in great form after beating Napoli 3-0 with a GREAT Vidal goal (Must see).

Im placing my money in Coppa Italia Final tho.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: th_battleaxe on 03-04-2012, 19:04:37
Barcelona vs AC Milan tonight, will be watching
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Smiles on 03-04-2012, 21:04:24
Awsome first half...!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Schneider on 03-04-2012, 22:04:32
Too many penalties.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Smiles on 03-04-2012, 23:04:15
disappointing second half :(
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 03-04-2012, 23:04:27
The First penalty is hard to see, but i think it was well awarded.

The second penalty was a clear one, Nesta, such an experienced player (36 Years old afaik)... im dissapointed.

Nice, so now Bayern Munich must destroy Madrid, LOS.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 11-04-2012, 00:04:52
Now, I couldn't watch the game so won't say too much about it.

My point is proven. Why hasn't Maxi got to play more? 2 goals in 16 minutes.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 11-04-2012, 18:04:26
Blackburn - Liverpool 2-3 - what a match!!!  :D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Smiles on 11-04-2012, 20:04:40
Heereveen.... ajax....  ???
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 12-04-2012, 00:04:07
Meh, red card in 3rd minute destroyed the game, no excitement at all.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 12-04-2012, 02:04:04
German League News:

Dortmund won 1:0 against Munich. A quite decidive game, which makes Dortmund pretty much win the German championship and makes Munich second, having a 6 points difference to Dortmund now. 3 more games to go though. Who knows what happens ?! ;)
Im curious whether the loss broke Munichs motivation and how they are going to present themselves vs. Real Madrid next week in CL semi finals.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 12-04-2012, 05:04:43
Talking about News:

Del Piero saved Juventus one more time, as he scored against the crucial Lazio match wich ended 2-1 in favour of the Old Lady, and Juve's back on Top!.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Sgt.KAR98 on 12-04-2012, 07:04:18
Corinthians won easily today in Libertadores.Boca Juniors sc... Fluminense,lolol.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 12-04-2012, 14:04:01
AIK - IFK Göteborg today.
Stockholm against Gothenburg.
Heaven against hell.
One of sweden's biggest matches, and the last time it will ever be played on the classic stadium Råsunda, where Pélé once made his debut for the brazilian national team in 1958, as it's being torn down next winter.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 12-04-2012, 14:04:21
Cristiano Ronaldo does it again. 1-4 agaisnt Atletico Madrid and another hat-trick by him.

40 goals in 32 games this season in the spanish league only.

Amazing.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Ciupita on 12-04-2012, 19:04:24
Cristiano Ronaldo does it again. 1-4 agaisnt Atletico Madrid and another hat-trick by him.

40 goals in 32 games this season in the spanish league only.

Amazing.

Yeah and the man himself is such a pussy.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 12-04-2012, 21:04:33
Cristiano Ronaldo does it again. 1-4 agaisnt Atletico Madrid and another hat-trick by him.

40 goals in 32 games this season in the spanish league only.

Amazing.

Yeah and the man himself is such a pussy.

I honestly dont give a fuck if he is a pussy or a one legged albino midget.

He is an amazing football player. Thats what counts to me.   8)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: CologneSky on 13-04-2012, 00:04:19
Cristiano Ronaldo does it again. 1-4 agaisnt Atletico Madrid and another hat-trick by him.

40 goals in 32 games this season in the spanish league only.

Amazing.

Yeah and the man himself is such a pussy.

I honestly dont give a fuck if he is a pussy or a one legged albino midget.

He is an amazing football player. Thats what counts to me.   8)

and he fu**ed Paris Hilton..
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Sgt.KAR98 on 13-04-2012, 06:04:53
Guess he is a Neymar in an advanced stage.Except that he haves less children.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 14-04-2012, 02:04:19
According to Pelé, Neymar is better than Messi.


YEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAH, SURE.


Tomorrows the Avellaneda Derby, Independiente vs Racing at the "Still beign Constructed" "Stadium" "The Most Intelligent and Modern Stadium of South America" piece of shit.


Love how Racing and Independiente stadiums are one block from each other.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 15-04-2012, 00:04:15
I feel like a car ran me over, i was expecting a victory at the Derby but all i found was a referee sending off two our of players and penalty for them, off side goals wich ended in a terrible and dissapointing 4-1. Robbery, completly biased match towards Independiente. All i know the AFA President, Julio Grondona (Beign president for like +30 years) is behind this, he is a well known Independiente's ex-president.

Even worse, our mighty Goalkeeper, Sebastian Saja picked a fight with our colombian striker Teofilo Gutierrez and his colombian Companion, Giovanni Moreno, apparently, Gutierrez pulled out a Paintball gun after the game.

Our coach, Alfio Basile resigned.

What is worse than that?, we could face relegation if we dont start to win.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Schneider on 15-04-2012, 01:04:43
I don't know how it comes, but in all the instances when I've heard or read a Pelé statement in the past years on modern football, it has almost everytime been a heap of crap...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 15-04-2012, 14:04:40
Even worse, our mighty Goalkeeper, Sebastian Saja picked a fight with our colombian striker Teofilo Gutierrez and his colombian Companion, Giovanni Moreno, apparently, Gutierrez pulled out a Paintball gun after the game.

 I love those football players in South America ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 15-04-2012, 14:04:44
I don't know how it comes, but in all the instances when I've heard or read a Pelé statement in the past years on modern football, it has almost everytime been a heap of crap...

Must be all the viagra  ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 15-04-2012, 14:04:43
Liverpool won over Everton in yesterdays FA Cup semifinal. Started off really good for Everton who took the lead early in the first half when the Liverpool defence made a mistake.

Ended 2-1 to Liverpool after a late score by Andy Carroll.

Today, Tottenham vs Chelsea in the other FA Cup semifinal at Wembley.

Tottenham haven't won over Chelsea in the last five league games. But, in Cup games Tottenham actually won the last one against Chelsea in the Carling Cup finals of 2008.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 15-04-2012, 17:04:42
Even worse, our mighty Goalkeeper, Sebastian Saja picked a fight with our colombian striker Teofilo Gutierrez and his colombian Companion, Giovanni Moreno, apparently, Gutierrez pulled out a Paintball gun after the game.

 I love those football players in South America ;D


Ah, they're good guys tbh. Saja is a gentleman, veteran keeper who returned to Argentine after playing for AEK Athens i think.. or some Greek team, PAOK perhaps??.., Teo is an excellent player, his personality is just wrong, something like Balotelli. He was sent off for saying "You didnt saw that one, pussy*" * According to the ref, he said Pussy, however he didnt. He said Caron.

And Giovanni is a player from other planet. Excellent skills, he wears the 10 in the Colombian National Team. He's just having a bad time, hes not the same, he was a beast before his 6 months long injury.


Problem is that we are in a terrible situation, want to know how many times we beat Independiente in their stadium in about 30 years?, no more than 10. All matches against that club are somehow fixed, or something weird happens wich affects us.


AH dude, that match was so fixed.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 15-04-2012, 19:04:29
Chelsea fans couldn't even respect the minute silence for Hillsborough and Piermario Morosini  >:(

Absolute classless scumbags I hope Spurs absolutely smash them now the gang of lowlifes!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 15-04-2012, 21:04:45
Chelsea fans couldn't even respect the minute silence for Hillsborough and Piermario Morosini  >:(

Absolute classless scumbags I hope Spurs absolutely smash them now the gang of lowlifes!

The other thing happened...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 15-04-2012, 22:04:11
Well then Liverpool will have to destroy the far-right, classless plastic flag wavers themselves then.

I tip my hat to the Spurs fans today - their response to the Chelsea 'fans' behaviour was much appreciated.

Martin Atkinson should be banned for giving Chelsea their second 'goal' by the way. Professional referees my arse!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 15-04-2012, 23:04:57
I missed the game. Please tell me what exactly the chelsea supporters (not players right?) did!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 15-04-2012, 23:04:50
During the minute silence before the game for the Hillsborough victims and Piermario Morosini they were chanting "Murderers" and other vile abuse. It got so bad the referee had to cut the minute short.

The Tottenham fans observed it perfectly then booed the Chelsea lot to show their disgust.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 21-04-2012, 14:04:04
Quite a boring top fight between Manchester United and City, not impossible for City to put up a fight in the last rounds but still. Too uneven and boring.

 The fight for the Champions League spots are hotter!

Chelsea fighting for a spot but also handling the upcoming FA Cup finale against Liverpool, Barcelona in the Champions League and right now even facing Arsenal at the Emirates.

Chelsea, Newcastle and Tottenham are fighting over the precious 3rd and 4th spot.

Tonight, QPR vs Tottenham. I pray to Superman, Jesus and Johnny Cash that Spurs may break this run of bad games and finally get going once again. Such a good start of the season and also pretty good after the January break but now it's all pitch dark.

Tonight, also Barcelona vs Real Madrid. Prepare the forums for flame war!

I would considering killing certain people for an Real Madrid win. Tired of Barcelona and underdogs are always more fun to cheer for.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 21-04-2012, 15:04:20
Good game between Arsenal and Chelsea over, 0-0.

Terrible game from Torres, looked completley switched off and just in a bad mood and did not have the speed or will to do anything.

Praying even more for Spurs tonight against QPR.

3 points or it's good night.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 21-04-2012, 16:04:03
Sigh, a great football day and I have no time to watch any games, just study. Hope I get to see second half of El Clasico.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 21-04-2012, 18:04:22
Rawhide, is Torres just recently bad or did he still not manage to acclimatize at Chelsea ? I am not following Premier League that much, just know that he had big problems when he came to Chelsea.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 21-04-2012, 18:04:47
Rawhide, is Torres just recently bad or did he still not manage to acclimatize at Chelsea ? I am not following Premier League that much, just know that he had big problems when he came to Chelsea
He has some good times, some goals as well but today he was really just plain awful.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 21-04-2012, 18:04:29
Indeed he does have some good times, but they are like 10%, and the completely-worthless-times are 90% of his games.
Fun statistic about torres: He scored more goals for Liverpool in January 2011, then he has for Chelsea since February 1st 2011.

Some games he has done good, but only a goal is missing. I would though consider him to be the worst flop-purchases ever.
I'm partially biased as a Liverpool-fan though.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 21-04-2012, 22:04:32
El Clásico rant:


Barcelona 1 - 2 Real Madrid

First of all: Great! First Real-victory in the league since Mourinho took charge. I see no possibility of Real losing this now, they will win the league!

I was very very close to turn off the game around minute 60. The diving, it was just too much. There weren't any fluent gameplay. As soon as a player realizes he won't win the ball, he throws himself to the ground putting his hands in the air, yelling to the referee. I can't stand it.

This seriously ruins the game. It wasn't fun to watch.
One more reason I hate barcelona: They say that anyone who doesn't play like them are playing anti-football, ruining the game. They haven o right to say that, considering their diving and actions (real are the same, just they haven't claimed to play the perfect football).

I'm going to watch a rugby game this week. See if I like it, might just try to get into rugby instead.



And one last thing:
Anyone noticed how silent the barca-fans were? Why don't they sing when the team needs it, but only when they are in the lead with 4-0.
I'd love to see how many of todays barca-lovers would still love them if they struggled in the bottom of the league the coming 5 years.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 22-04-2012, 11:04:07
My face when Real Madrid won?

Something like this...

(http://cache.ohinternet.com/images/3/3c/Dolan_original.gif)

I can't stand Barcelona. When they play football they play one of the finest football there is. But why do they ruin the game? So extremely much whining to the referee at every call he makes no matter what and constant diving.

I'm not saying Real is any better but they have somewhat adopted to this and finally won over Barcelona at their own 'game' in their own home.

I loved it.

Ronaldo's 2-1 goal was truly class straight through and through. Nothing special but still, one chance, one hit, done and done. Class.

Now I hope Real and Barcelona will meet in the the Champions League finale and the same thing will happen again.

QPR vs Tottenham, 1-0. Taarabt scored early in the game, Friedel wasn't fast enough and Spurs just had problems getting through the QPR defence. Taarabt was also sent off after two yellow cards and Spurs still didn't manage to get an equalizer.

It's rough period for Tottenham at the moment. Europa League next?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 22-04-2012, 11:04:51
I really don't want to see Real-Barca in the final. The way everyone dives really ruins the game, it wasn't  fun to watch.

However, I don't think neither Bayern nor Chelsea stands a chance against barcelona, and Real being the only team left that can beat barca, I'll have endure another El "Clásico".

The dream is for Bayern to win the CL though. A club that deserves a lot of admiration and the final is to be played on their home-pitch. But as long as Barca doesn't win I'm happy.

The special one endures and prevails.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 22-04-2012, 11:04:23
Would love to see Mourinho take on a new team after this season, read that he has extended is contract with Real Madrid now until 2014 but still. Would love to see him return to the Premier League.

Would be interesting, especially since Di Matteo is having a good run at Chelsea.

 Other than that, still feeling bad over Tottenham. Rough two months now and going on...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 22-04-2012, 20:04:19
Liverpool vs WBA, FT 0-1.

 First WBA win at Anfield in 45 years and besides that Liverpool was the club Roy Hodgson was manager for before he was sacked and joined WBA. Kenny Daglish, current manager at Liverpool was also in on the decision on sacking Hodgson.

Payback is a bitch.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 22-04-2012, 20:04:59
Don't be daft Rawhide, how was Dalglish "in" on Hodgson getting sacked??

Hodgson did a pretty good job of that himself for his entire tenure at Anfield and got an incredibly lucky away win today after being dominated by Liverpool for nearly all of the match.

He's a small time manager and just cruises from club to club where expectations are low and a mid table finish can be considered an achievement. That's his level.

If his name was Hodgsonez or Hodginho he would have been hounded out the English game by the British media years ago, but they would never do that to such an upstanding "gentleman" as old uncle Roy.

I hope he takes the England job.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 22-04-2012, 21:04:27
Don't be daft Rawhide, how was Dalglish "in" on Hodgson getting sacked?
Hodgson and Dalglish have both confirmed this earlier and Dalglish was already working for Liverpool even during the Hodgson era.

Still, I agree regarding Hodgson but still. He did some really good findings in terms of getting new players to the squad.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 22-04-2012, 22:04:17
Dalglish was working for Liverpool during Hodgson's brief reign but in no way did he contribute to him being sacked.

Hodgson's continous run of bad results, bland antiquated football and terrible relationship with the fans during a very bad era for the club were the reasons he got the sack.

Personally, I feel he should never have been given the job in the first place. The only positive thing he did was to bring in Raul Meireles, even if it was only short lived.

The memory of Paul Konchesky and Christian Poulsen in a red shirt sends real shivers down my spine.

Nevermind Liverpool, what's going on with Spurs!? You reckon 'Arry has his thoughts on the Euros rather than securing the Champions League spot?

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 22-04-2012, 22:04:50
Dalglish was working for Liverpool during Hodgson's brief reign but in no way did he contribute to him being sacked.

Hodgson's continous run of bad results, bland antiquated football and terrible relationship with the fans during a very bad era for the club were the reasons he got the sack.

Personally, I feel he should never have been given the job in the first place. The only positive thing he did was to bring in Raul Meireles, even if it was only short lived.

The memory of Paul Konchesky and Christian Poulsen in a red shirt sends real shivers down my spine.

Nevermind Liverpool, what's going on with Spurs!? You reckon 'Arry has his thoughts on the Euros rather than securing the Champions League spot?
Don't forget Jovanovic and Joe Cole (though I'm sure we all were surprised how that turned out).

Feel like starting a rant about liverpool, but I didn't see todays game and I'm way to tired. And I've mentioned my stance on the pool situation anyway.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 22-04-2012, 22:04:07
Nevermind Liverpool, what's going on with Spurs!? You reckon 'Arry has his thoughts on the Euros rather than securing the Champions League spot?
Yeah, ever since the FA speculations about Capello's replacement Spurs have really hit the wall hard. But it's not just Harry's fault. Some players have really been lacking in their performance this period as well.

Spurs need to keep fighting and find that special thing they had earlier this season as well as the last season. That speed, that joy and that will. They have none of that at the moment.

I just pray they can grab the 4th place and get to the play-off. Either that or complete failure and in that failure also miss the Europa League spot. Europa League is bollocks IMO.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 24-04-2012, 23:04:33
Oh my god.
I got so much to say about todays game... I'll try to hold it in and put it short.

I never thought I would be so happy to see Chelsea win, I jumped up and screamed at the top of my voice

I don't think I've ever seen such great defending, especially in the face of adversity with 1 man down, no ordinary centre-back, and a penalty and such dominance from barca.

In a week, I've changed opinion:
Barcelona is NOT the best team in the world. Football is a 2-part game, attack AND defending, they are worthless at defending. And whenever they face such an inpenetrable defense like Chelsea today (or Inter 3 years ago) and they can't get past it, they have no plan B. They continue to play their game, fruitlessly.


And last but not least.

FERNANDO TORRES - LIVERPOOLS NUMBER 9

Golden boy, everything is forgiven
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: mopskind on 24-04-2012, 23:04:58
Yep, it was an ace game. Kudos to Chelsea for keeping the nerves with 10 players in that atmosphere. I hope that Bayern München will make it tomorrow so both teams can finally show what they are really made of.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 24-04-2012, 23:04:36
What an awesome game.

And i dont wanna say a lot to this whole thing but im gonna do it.

Barca showed that they have a monostructural team, that does not work against certain enemy teams. Chelsea showed how it works. Barca lacks tall players that can use their bodies. They only have small, agile players in the offensive, which works against 95 % of the clubs, Chelsea is one of the 5% it does not work for. Credits to Di Matteo for preparing his team perfectly on how to beat barcelona.

Every other team would finally come to a flank after besieging the enemy goal for 45 minutes, but it does not fit Barca's playstyle at all. They need a fast pased, open game, including possibilities of counter attacking to set free their offensive potential.
Every other professional team has players that can go for the header. But Barca can not do that, they have to try to enter the penalty area by short passes, but Chelsea made the room too close. Evry other team would have been permanently flanking the ball until some time someone goes for the header and the goal. For Barca this is imposssible, they got to change their whole system of gameplay. After 2 years doing the same the other teams begin to realize how to beat them. They should have kept Ibrahimovic for such cases, a player like that is what is missing for Barca right now.

Loved how Drogba performed well as defender and especially the situation when he got the ball and made this unbelievable shot from the own half :D

Probably Chelsea even benifited from the red card, because it froced them to replace Terry with an offensive player, so they played even more defensive. Having one man less was not that much of a deal having all 10 players in the penalty area all the time, lol. Anyway, what Terry did was totally stupid.

But seriously. Barca got to change their system in future.
Messi, Iniesta, Xavi, Tello, Cuenca, Sanchez = All the same player type. One more offensively the other more midfielder, but with that kind of monostructure in their play they are not going to be good against strong european teams. They don't even need a very very good player, just someone of another type that is able to compete with the defenders and can use his body to force a goal.

Congrats to Chelsea ! Since Di Matteo is coach they developed very well. I saw them live in preliminary round and they changed a lot since then. They even lost to my home club Leverksuen there. At least we can say that we beat a championsleague finalist, maybe the winner, we'll see :)

Edit: Ramires' goal just fuckin epic. I was stunned by the pure awesomeness ! Balls to him !
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 25-04-2012, 00:04:57
It's truly astonishing how many times John Terry can single handedly let his team mates, fans and club/country down.

"I was trying to protect myself".

Yes of course John, the pre-emptive knee to the back of the thigh always works wonders.

Fair play to Di Matteo though. Always seemed a decent guy. Has too much class to be associated with that plastic mob.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 25-04-2012, 00:04:47
"I was trying to protect myself".

Did he really say that ?  ;D

And yea i agree. When he got the red card i thought exactly the same. He perfectly fits my stereotype about British people though :D Let's be honest, that guy is an asshole.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Ciupita on 25-04-2012, 00:04:44
I watched the match and as fanatical barca hater, I like the result.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 25-04-2012, 23:04:42
Bayern München beat Real Madrid and are playing the CL final against chelase on Allianz Arena.

Congratulations, world of football.

I don't know what to say...
 Who would have thought neither Barca nor Real would reach the final?
So happy, München on their home pitch. Will be amazing.

All in all, great game from both teams. The lottery of penalties was really the only fair outcome considering how well they both played.

Barca lacks tall players that can use their bodies.
This. Watch - the worlds most disgusting player - Busquets goal last night. It came from a corner kick. When the corner kick was sent in, barca had 3 (outfield)players in total in the penalty box, the rest waiting outside of it. Chelsea had 7 with the remaining 3 close by.

the 19th of may can't get here soon enough
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 26-04-2012, 00:04:43
I watched the match and as fanatical Real hater, I like the result.

Now Bayern can go and win the cup. Chelsea can't have it!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 26-04-2012, 00:04:36
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/156564_3039879159154_1328296865_2213066_166976112_n.jpg)

 :P

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 26-04-2012, 00:04:53
I do not like Bayern Munich, but as a German i support the German team and i was totally freaking out when Ronaldo missed the penalty. I hoped so much that this happens. That haughty moron is probably still crying, i like !
Exciting game overall. Second half was kinda lame, but it was beacause both teams were very afraid of getting a goal against.
In the overtime Bayern was tired and they were a little bit lucky that they made it to the penalty shootout.

I think Bayern is going to win vs. Chelsea in the finals and i hope so.

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Eglaerinion on 26-04-2012, 11:04:24
I wanted Bayern to win simply because of the fact that they are a healthy club. Barca and Real have huge debts, I'm not sure about Chelsea but a Russian billionaire running the show can't be very clean either. A club should not be able to spend more than what they earn with TV rights, merchandising, ticket sales and price money. If they spend more and have debts they should be penalised. This will only help in making the game better and it's only fair when some countries have a very strict national football association while others can do as they please.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 26-04-2012, 15:04:12
I´m not a big football fan, but watched the game, anyway. It was kinda lame, but the shootout in the end was nice. Neuer has show once again that he´s a good keeper and I liked how the "big shot" Ronaldo wasn´t able to score.

Also, this:
(http://i.imgur.com/WKX8r.gif)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 26-04-2012, 15:04:53
haha, nice ;D

Well, shooting a penalty high is always risky. If you hit it is nearly impossible for the keeper to catch it, but if you don't, people make jokes like that out of it :D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 26-04-2012, 19:04:15
I wanted Bayern to win simply because of the fact that they are a healthy club. Barca and Real have huge debts, I'm not sure about Chelsea but a Russian billionaire running the show can't be very clean either. A club should not be able to spend more than what they earn with TV rights, merchandising, ticket sales and price money. If they spend more and have debts they should be penalised. This will only help in making the game better and it's only fair when some countries have a very strict national football association while others can do as they please.
Word! Now I hope the plans for making Euro leagues more fair will become true too, so those "rich" clubs won't dominate CL any longer (yes, I know, but I can have dreams, right?).
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Smiles on 26-04-2012, 22:04:54
Lol who cares, i just want to see the best football players in the world playing matches against eachother. Fuck those depts, shows how fucked up priorities are.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 26-04-2012, 23:04:15
Still, my favourite moments from CL so far

1) Messi getting a yellow card
- Nice guys don't always get away with it

2) Torres scoring
- Worth every penny

3) Ramos penalty
- Have it landed? In case of yes, where? Is it still bouncing or rolling?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 26-04-2012, 23:04:02
Lol who cares, i just want to see the best football players in the world playing matches against eachother. Fuck those depts, shows how fucked up priorities are.
There will be a more equal spread of those players, not concentrated in 4-5 clubs in Europe. This will make things interesting, unless you really enjoy seeing the same teams in semifinals over and over again, like the past ten years.

You can already see teams consisting of the "best players" on EC and WC tournaments.

@Rawhide:

My favourite moments from CL so far

1) Ronaldo penalty

2) Kaka penalty

3) Ramos penalty

 ;)  :P
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 26-04-2012, 23:04:18
3) Ramos penalty
- Have it landed? In case of yes, where? Is it still bouncing or rolling?

I've heard that it hit Russian satellite  ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 27-04-2012, 12:04:30
(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/3988880_700b.jpg)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Smiles on 27-04-2012, 15:04:51
Lol who cares, i just want to see the best football players in the world playing matches against eachother. Fuck those depts, shows how fucked up priorities are.
There will be a more equal spread of those players, not concentrated in 4-5 clubs in Europe. This will make things interesting, unless you really enjoy seeing the same teams in semifinals over and over again, like the past ten years.

You can already see teams consisting of the "best players" on EC and WC tournaments.


Id rather vote for free football for everyone (so we can watch games played in Spain in the Netherlands too without paying those extra bucks). I really dont care Feyenoord/Ajax/Twente dont stand a chance against them, we have our own little league and they are the big boys
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 27-04-2012, 16:04:15
All that needs to be done is to increase the 'home grown' quota of players that each club must field.

Say 40% of the squad must be from within 20/30 miles of the club's home ground.

This will encourage the development of better young players, meaning the need for ridiculous transfers required for 'superstars' will disappear.

It doesn't cost a great deal to create a good youth system but if done correctly can produce fantastic players for practically nothing.

Look at Barcelona. They have brought some fantastic players through "La Masia" and although not all of them have been local to the area, the same principal could still be applied to local lads.



Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Sgt.KAR98 on 28-04-2012, 03:04:24
I don't like Barcelona.But neither Real Madrid.They are too fashion clubs,if you get what I mean.
And I don't like Chelsea,it seems to be the Palmeiras of England,maybe because they had the same coach and same kit manufcturer?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 28-04-2012, 11:04:19
(https://p.twimg.com/ArjlxpUCMAEa9G1.jpg)

(https://p.twimg.com/ArgEazLCQAEvrLJ.jpg)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 29-04-2012, 17:04:15
I woke up pretty early today, i had to left my warm bed to watch Novara - Juventus.


Another epic display from the Bianconeri side, 0-4. I really like this team, i'd like to see it on Champions League. However they need a world class striker, they cannot compete against the biggest clubs in Europe with Boriello  ::)


I'd say sign Higuain or Benzema....
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 29-04-2012, 19:04:21
Such a solid season from Juventus I must say!

 Kyle Walker did just now a beautiful goal, freekick with a perfect twist. 2-0 for Spurs against Blackburn. First Spurs win in over 2 months perhaps!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 01-05-2012, 14:05:29
City won 1-0 over United yesterday and the are back on top of the Premiership! The fight for thechampionship will last till the end of the season great! I wonder how City will play against Newcastle, both team are great and they have their own targets. I'm looking forward to this match now!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 01-05-2012, 15:05:25
Etihad or no Etihad, I want to see City win this.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 01-05-2012, 22:05:41
Ah, i hate City so much.

I wish United wins the league.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 01-05-2012, 22:05:33
Same. I totally hate Mancity.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 01-05-2012, 23:05:30
I don't like both, but as a Liverpool fan, I simply hate United!  >:( So go on Citizens!!!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Smiles on 02-05-2012, 12:05:22
nice hattrick by suarez
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 02-05-2012, 13:05:01
Roy Hodgson is the new England manager.

Any Norwegians here should take note to remember this little quip come the 26th of May.

Hodgson ended a tetchy conference by rounding on a Scandinavian journalist.

Asked about the poor service to the forwards, Torres especially, Hodgson snapped: "Are you from Denmark?"

The puzzled journalist replied. "No, Norway."

"Ah, two countries I never want to work in again," Hodgson said, before exiting.


Oh how I wish Bjorge Lillelien was still with us. I would love to hear his commentary as good old Roy begins to rub his face clean off as England crumble to yet another defeat.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 02-05-2012, 15:05:53
Juventus v Lecce today.


Forza Juve!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 02-05-2012, 20:05:13
nice hattrick by suarez

Yeah, pity that they lost against Fulham in the next match, again at their home pitch... I don't get this... I have never seen this team so weakly playing at Anfield...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 02-05-2012, 20:05:34
Last night's team was basically a second string/reserve one. It's all about the Cup Final Saturday now.

Kenny has a chance to sort out the league form over the summer to make sure it will be vastly improved for next season.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 02-05-2012, 23:05:02
Ajax champions again, I don't like them, but they deserve it after having won 13 times in a row. Halfway the season nobody in Amsterdam in his right mind would think about the title and look what happened.

Feyenoord will end up 2nd or 3rd place, depending on coming Sunday. Nobody would have thought after last utterly depressing season with a 10th place at the end, that this would happen. When Koeman came as a manager I thought we'd go for an even worse season, but the opposite happened. I'm hoping for 2nd place now (one more win needed), and then I hope we can keep this team together so we can seriously play for the title next year.

Best season in the past ten years! Best feat was to solve all financial trouble and leaving the dangerzone which is called Category 1.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 03-05-2012, 00:05:56
Chelsea - Newcastle 0-2 Cisse's goal was simply astonishing!
click (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0MWW7sEnss&feature=related)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 03-05-2012, 00:05:47
Stupid 1-1 draw against Lecce, IMPOSSIBLE, Lecce is nearly a relegated team and Juve is strong!.


Now Milan won 2-0 against Atalanta, 1 point is what separates Juventus from Milan, 6 in play.


Juventus will visit Cagliari Calcio (Tough game, knowing that Cagliari is strong when playing in their home) and will receive Atalanta.

However Milan will visit Inter and will receive a relegated Novara.


In Serie B, Torino FC and Pescara promoted to Serie A, Torinos' promotion means that we will see the true Derby between Juve and Torino.

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 03-05-2012, 01:05:09
Chelsea - Newcastle 0-2 Cisse's goal was simply astonishing!
click (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0MWW7sEnss&feature=related)

A great goal but definitely not goal of the season. He was knackered and thought why not just have a swing at it.

This won't be bested this season IMO:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aY5Q7r76gY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aY5Q7r76gY)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 03-05-2012, 01:05:56
Chelsea - Newcastle 0-2 Cisse's goal was simply astonishing!
click (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0MWW7sEnss&feature=related)

Wow, amazing goal there ! I hope Chelsea looses some more games and self-confidence, so Munich comes out on top in the finals :)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Eglaerinion on 03-05-2012, 23:05:50
Ajax had a nice party.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjWMBy6ubnQ
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 04-05-2012, 05:05:51
Damn, dutch football is boring.


 ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 05-05-2012, 16:05:12
Chelsea vs Liverpool tonight in the FA Cup finals!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 05-05-2012, 18:05:44
German Leagues last matchday is over.

1 FC Köln (Cologne) just relegated to the 2. league by a loss to munich. They are my arch enemies, but most of my friends are fan of them. Anyway, Podolski finally leaving that shitty club and goes to Arsenal, let's see waht he can do there.

Borussia Dortmund won the league. They also managed to achieve a league record. They got 81 points out of 34 matchdays. I'm curious if they manage to play finally well in champions league next season. I think most Europeans don't even know a lot about Dortmund or think they are not that good. But they are. They have beaten munich twice this season and played really good football. THey won the league last year aswell by the way.

Schalke 04's Klaas-Jan Huntelaar is this seasons topscorer with 29 goals, followed by Mario Gomez with 26 goals.

Dortmund, Munich and Schalke made it to the championsleague, Borussia Mönchengladbach got to qualify themselves for it. They loose their best player to Dortmund though. So I doubt they will be as good next season and i doubt they will be able to compete in the championsleague. The qualification should be possible though.

So far the news from Germany.

Edit: Cologne ultras unleashed some firework at the end of the game in their own stadium trololol. Not that funny though, but actually it is ;D

(http://bilder.bild.de/fotos-skaliert/1-fckoeln-fcbayernmuenchen_26310331_mbqf-1336233297-24000092/2,h=493.bild.jpg)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 05-05-2012, 23:05:46
Looks like they are burning chairs  ;D

Today I watched Arsenal - Norwich 3:3 - what a game! This match was a great example of Premier League football!

Chelsea - Liverpool 2-1  :(
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 06-05-2012, 16:05:43
Serie A's on Fire!


Cagliari - Juventus, Juve must take 3 points!! no mistakes.

Inter - Milan, painfull choice for Inter, IF they let Milan win, not only they lose a Derby but also allows Milan to win Scudetto (Still depends on Juve tho).

IF Inter wins, they allow Juve to win scudetto, another big rival.


Draw perhaps?.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 06-05-2012, 17:05:11
Aston Villa vs Spurs is done, 1-1.

 Danny Rose sent off after first half due to an terrible tackle on former Spurs player Alan Hutton.

Spurs, as always plays better with 10 players on the pitch then 11. Still, 1-1 at FT.

This was a good chance for Spurs to secure the third spot before the last game next week. But no...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 06-05-2012, 18:05:59
Liverpool lost the FA-Cup final. The only thing that could have "saved" the season would be that trophy, the leage-cup is nothing compared to it.

I do believe and hope that the pragmatic american owners will 'replace' Dalglish this summer. I don't want him to leave the club, but take another role. I sincerely hope Fabio Capello takes over Liverpool, now there's a man with a real great record. And he has said that his next club will be his last before retirement, could be extra-motivation for him (or maybe the opposite?).


ANYWAY

Manchester City won against Newcastle. And the title is now basically in their hands, I don't see them, being motivated like never before, lose against QPR.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 06-05-2012, 21:05:26
Ah shit. What a day!

Cagliari vs Juventus today, so far Juve is winning 1-0, Vucinic scored.

Inter is winning 1-0, Diego Milito (One of the players that brought happiness to Racing Club after 35 years, i owe him my life) scored.


Also Racing will play today, need points so we can be safe from relegation.


So far, Juventus' will be taking this Scudetto! FORZA JUVE!.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 06-05-2012, 23:05:08
Thank you Juve for this day!

Another Scudetto AND THE OLD LADY IS BACK!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 06-05-2012, 23:05:54
I raise my hat for The Old Lady!

What a season and what a result!

I thought Zlatan and Milan would pull it off but damn, a worthy winner without a doubt!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 07-05-2012, 00:05:43
Epic season, thats true.

37 unbeaten games and counting, im happy for Del Piero too, he can leave Juventus now, with another title.


Now Coppa Italia Final should be priority, sign a world-class striker and target Champions League!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 07-05-2012, 03:05:14
Happy and sad too. Del Piero has been my childhood hero. He is my first football player I know. He never left Juventus since then. Even when La Vecchia Signora was in serie-B, then finished 7th.
Congratulations for all Juventini out there!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 07-05-2012, 21:05:56
Happy and sad too.
Same here. A shame Juventus oesn't keep him for another two years and then can send him on his pension.

But: glad for the scudetto!

Also happy with 2nd place for my team in NL!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 07-05-2012, 23:05:16
Liverpool lost the FA-Cup final. The only thing that could have "saved" the season would be that trophy, the leage-cup is nothing compared to it.

For me there's no difference... Both trophies are the least valuable...

And yes, Citizens are champions definately.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 08-05-2012, 15:05:42
Today Liverpool - Chelsea again. Time for revenge after FA Cup final.

And we have 1 month to EURO 2012 - anybody going to watch live matches in Poland or Ukraine?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 08-05-2012, 15:05:58
If Carroll doesn't play from start, after his game this saturday, there can be no doubt in anybody's mind that Dalglish needs to go.

Sadly can't watch it. The biggest game in all of Scandinavia today, the Stockholm derby between AIK and Djurgårdens IF. The last home-derby on the classical stadium Råsunda (where Pélé played in '58, and sweden came second) for AIK. 3 out of 4 sides are completely sold out, the 4th one is for the Away team.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 08-05-2012, 16:05:02
 FCPorto is once again Portuguese champion!

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-wzuBaQxd15g/T6bk1tZL-OI/AAAAAAAAY58/XGj6nCttwLw/s1600/Porto+1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 08-05-2012, 16:05:09
This happened in the previous week. Obviously, the coach was fired after that.  :P (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9edbw8zuGI0)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 08-05-2012, 18:05:06
FCPorto is once again Portuguese champion!
What's with the hair? It is extremely shiny! And that guy center backrow, is he wearing a helmet?

Kudos for Porto, only team in Portugal I actually like to see play :)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 09-05-2012, 00:05:33
Liverpool - Chelsea 4-1!!!  ;D Why not such result on Saturday?  ???

Hehe, Chelsea has to win CL if it wants to play in CL in the next season, because in the current it will be only on 6th place! Roman must be really unhappy!  ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 09-05-2012, 00:05:02
I don't know about you, but I 4-1 enjoy seeing Torres fail on his return to anfield
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Fuchs on 09-05-2012, 00:05:38
Best creative writing of the day, Teddy, you win the grand prize! And that while the day is only 18 minutes young, a new set record!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 09-05-2012, 03:05:18
So, it seems that most of the people here follows EPL, i need an answer to this question.

How good is Pogba from Man. United?.

He just signed for Juve.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 09-05-2012, 07:05:05
So, it seems that most of the people here follows EPL, i need an answer to this question.

How good is Pogba from Man. United?.

He just signed for Juve.
not being a united fan, I've only seen him against Athletic Bilbao. He was okay.
United fans are going to rage though, he is seen as a huge talent, Chelsea was chasing him too.

I think you've made a great signing, with an aging Pirlo he might just get some games in Juventus
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 09-05-2012, 12:05:15
FCPorto is once again Portuguese champion!
What's with the hair? It is extremely shiny! And that guy center backrow, is he wearing a helmet?

Kudos for Porto, only team in Portugal I actually like to see play :)

It was the last game at home, we had already won the title so in celebration all the players painted their hair and beards with blue and white paint. Its somewhat of a tradition in FCPorto!   ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Marder on 09-05-2012, 13:05:19
Hey guys, i recommend you to see the Europa League final between Atlético de Madrid and Athletic Club de Bilbao. After seeing how they played in La Liga and the Europa League (especially Athletic Club), i'm sure it will be an awesome match.
On the other hand, Puyol with an injury on his knee, will miss the Eurocup :-[
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 09-05-2012, 16:05:15
So, it seems that most of the people here follows EPL, i need an answer to this question.

How good is Pogba from Man. United?.

He just signed for Juve.
not being a united fan, I've only seen him against Athletic Bilbao. He was okay.
United fans are going to rage though, he is seen as a huge talent, Chelsea was chasing him too.

I think you've made a great signing, with an aging Pirlo he might just get some games in Juventus

It's a good signing indeed, he is a promising youngster.


I like what is Conte doing, lately he has been signing good young players, he signed a Dutch player, Ouasim Bouy, he now signed Pogba, he also has Marrone, he is looking to sign Pescara's Verratti (The New Pirlo) and a player currently playing for a Danish Club.

He is leaving a good bunch of young players, the future of the Old Lady.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 09-05-2012, 17:05:42
It was the last game at home, we had already won the title so in celebration all the players painted their hair and beards with blue and white paint. Its somewhat of a tradition in FCPorto!   ;D
Ah, I see. Funny :)

@ Juve: yes, nice signings, but still a shame they dump Del Piero.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 09-05-2012, 21:05:40
Falcao, 28 goals in 29 Europa League games.

I raise my hat.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 12-05-2012, 22:05:38
Dortmund won against, no, annihilated Bayern Munich with 5:2 in the "DFB-Pokal" finals !!!! That's the German Football Federation Cup.

Dortmund played really awesome, munich made a lot of faults. I'm so happy. Not a Dortmund fan, but that team is just so likeable. No drama-queens. Just a young group of players that like each other and play well together along with a very special coach. Lewandowski made 3 amazing goal. He really was on top of his game.

Next week munich has to face Chelsea in the championsleague finals. They were really frustrated. I hope they are going to recover from that. I don't like munich but I will of course hope for a victory vs. Chelsea.

Dortmund got the double. Defended the championsship in the league and won the "DFB-Pokal" now. I hope those guys are going to present themselves well in the upcoming championsleague-season as well.

What a nice game, was really enjoyable and I feel very happy for Dortmund.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 13-05-2012, 13:05:38
Indeed, it was a greart game by BvB. I really liked how Poles played - I wish they would play such game on Euro tournament...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 13-05-2012, 14:05:53
So the last day of this Premier League season has come. The next 3-4 months will feel kinda empty, good thing we got the Euro 2012.

What game should I watch today? I have no idea really.
Liverpool supporter, but the 'pool game doesn't mean anything for any of the teams. In City-QPR, one team is fighting for the title and one for staying in PL. Watch Arsenal, Newcastle or Spurs fight for third and fourth place?

Help me here


 15:00   Chelsea   ? - ?   Blackburn R.
 15:00   Everton   ? - ?   Newcastle U.
 15:00   Manchester C.   ? - ?   Queens Park R.
 15:00   Norwich C.   ? - ?   Aston Villa
 15:00   Stoke C.   ? - ?   Bolton W.
 15:00   Sunderland   ? - ?   Manchester U.
 15:00   Swansea C.   ? - ?   Liverpool
 15:00   Tottenham H.   ? - ?   Fulham
 15:00   West Bromwich A.   ? - ?   Arsenal
 15:00   Wigan Athletic   ? - ?   Wolverhampton W.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 13-05-2012, 14:05:33
I would say maybe watch city because if they win theyll be going crazy and it would just be fun to witness real time
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: th_battleaxe on 13-05-2012, 14:05:45
Chelsea vs Blackburn or Norwich vs Aston Villa look the most entertaining to me. Then again, I don't know too much on English football, all I know is it's way better than Belgian football
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 13-05-2012, 16:05:49
Thank god for half time breaks!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Thorondor123 on 13-05-2012, 17:05:48
QPR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Edit: QPR^2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Thorondor123 on 13-05-2012, 17:05:54
FUCK


Meanwhile in Finland: USA beats Finland in ice hockey 5 - 0, fucks given: zero.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 13-05-2012, 17:05:22
What a match! However how QPR played in the end of the match was quite suspicious...  ::)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 13-05-2012, 18:05:16
I don't support both City and United, but anyway, to make matters worse, I intervened:

I placed a curse when the time keeper decided to give 5 minutes extra time.

"2 goals in 5 minutes." Because they need that much.

It simply happened.

EPL = profit! We gave the fans something different at the champion party.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 13-05-2012, 19:05:18
(http://u.goal.com/185900/185908hp2.jpg)

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 13-05-2012, 20:05:55
Biggest day in football Europe for several decades?

- Del Piero lifting the pot after Juventus sensational season and hearing the crowd sing along with Queens We are the champions
- A lot of feelings in the last game of the season for AC Milan with several big names attending for the last time
- City/United/QPR clash and Barton as well. Jesus Christ what a day.
- Final round up for the final four spots. If Chelsea wins the CL they will snap Tottenhams CL qualification spot and Tottenham will play in EL next season. If Chelsea loses the final against Bayern, Tottenham will be able to qualify for CL and Everton also gets an EL spot!
- WBA's goalkeeper, former Spurs player. Letting in two goals that should not just happen. Strange? I think so!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 13-05-2012, 22:05:04
I know a lot of you Premier League followers noticed it, but what the hell did Barton do there lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oc8ev3x-toI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oc8ev3x-toI)

What kind of moron is that guy ?

I know it's shameful, but somehow it's also funny  :D  :-X
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 14-05-2012, 00:05:09
Joey Barton is a lunatic. He needs psychiatric help.

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Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 14-05-2012, 02:05:08
Joey Barton needs to be expelled from the game of football, the man is a menace.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 14-05-2012, 11:05:56
Typical kicker of a team coming from Championship.... Funny, he's also the captain of his team :D I wonder what would have happened if Ballotelli had been on the pitch in that time :D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 14-05-2012, 11:05:57
Well, Balotelli ran to him and couldnt reach him. Balotelli would have thraten him. After that, big brawl on the "battlefield" :D

I also checked Bartons history. He was in prison alredy for punching random people down, got suspended from ManCity for punching a teammate, got suspennded in Newcastle too, would not even wonder if QPR suspends him too, but when he's the captain, he can not be that unimportant for them. This guy should not be allowed to play football.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 14-05-2012, 12:05:57
Balotelli should be glad Barton couldn't get to him, he's probably been in more fights than Balotelli has scored goals.

What I hate most about Barton is his psuedo-intellectualism; quoting Nietzsche one minute then doing things like this the next:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w897VuJfXQI

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 14-05-2012, 13:05:18
Ahh... Christmas atmosphere!  ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 16-05-2012, 04:05:05
Quote
NOTHING CAN BE BETTER THAN...

Than eight Scudetti.

Than  a promotion from Serie B.

Than a Coppa Italia (let's hope two).

Than four Italian Super Cups.

Than a Champions League

Than a European Super Cup.

Than an Intercontinental Cup.

Than a goal scored against Fiorentina.

Than a Del Piero style goal.

Than a goal in Tokyo.

Than my tears.

Than a goal in Bari.

Than a back-heel volley goal in the derby.

Than a goal for the Avvocato.

Than a tongue stuck out in a game against Inter.

Than an assist to David.

Than goal number 187.

Than a goal in Germany.

Than Berlin.

Than a goal scored against Frosinone.

Than a top goalscorer title in Serie B.

Than a top goalscorer title in Serie A.

Than a standing ovation at the Bernabeu.

Than 704 matches in the black and white jersey.

Than 289 goals.

Than a free-kick scored that meant the Scudetto.

Than a goal against Atalanta.

Than any record.

Than the No 10 jersey with the name Del Piero.

Than the captain's armband.

Nothing, but...what you have given me in these 19 years.

I'm happy that you have smiled, cheered, cried, sung, shouted for me and with me.

No colour will ever be brighter for me than black and white.

You've made my dream come true. More than any other thing, today I just want to say THANK YOU.

Always by your side

Alessandro

I will miss Del Piero, he's not just a great player, but he is also a great man, both inside the pitch and outside. Defiently, Juve wont be the same.


Let's hope they sign Cavani and end up winning Coppa Italia this weekend.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 16-05-2012, 05:05:35
I have the same feeling as when Roberto Baggio left the football field for the last time. But I didn't see it when Del Piero left the field.

But these two great players will always be remembered.

Viva Ale!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 16-05-2012, 14:05:13
Serie A feels somehow strange to me. I don't like most of the clubs there and I don't like a lot of Italian players.
The only club I like is Juventus, because I liked them when I was younger.

Juventus probably the most reasonable club to me because Del Piero and Buffon are the players I like best and used to like in the past. They are more down-to-earth than a lot of other Italian players, no offense, but I never liked players like Totti or Materazzi.

I used to like Juventus like 10 years back or something, when Pavel Nedved , Edgar Davids, Lilian Thuram, Gianluca Zambrotta played there - good and nice players back then, especially Nedved.

The only players left from that time is Del Piero and Buffon :)
Indeed sad that Del Piero finished now, but he had an awesome career, playing nearly 20 years for one club, which is amazing and he deserves a lot of respect.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 16-05-2012, 15:05:50
In my era, their greatest players would include Peruzzi, Del Piero, Zidane, Trezeguet, Zambrotta, Tacchinardi, Pessoto, Tudor, di Livio, Deschamps, and grandpa Ferrara.

Gianluigi Buffon was a nice addition, freshly acquired from A.C. Parma at that time. A very welcomed addition.

People in Indonesia loves Serie A the most. EPL was second (now EPL is everything). A lot of my seniors still recall the great moment of seria A, when AC Milan have that uber-cheat trio Basten-Gullit-Rijkaard and dominates the league.

What makes me remember those as "great times" because the sports/entertainment was not so monetized as it is now. Juventus is Juventus, Real Madrid is Real Madrid, and Arsenal is Arsenal... right now, you can buy players in supermarket, hire new coach like buying condoms, and make show-stopping team in an instant. The same happened to most other sports like NBA.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 16-05-2012, 20:05:24
Sacking daglish? What are they thinking
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 16-05-2012, 20:05:10
Sacking daglish? What are they thinking
The right choice /'Pool supporter

Done too many questionable choices, simply put. I put blame (not full, but partially) on him for several players underachieving season.

No one is bigger than the club, and you can't live on your legend-status forever. I hope he takes on a different role in the club though and that Fabio Capello takes over!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 17-05-2012, 16:05:15
Premier League, where have thy gone!

I miss you!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 17-05-2012, 21:05:04
I know I feel like I have just been divorced for another 4 months.

At least we have the Euros to entertain us..... ::)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 17-05-2012, 23:05:47
Sacking daglish? What are they thinking

Oh, what a good news!!!  :D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 18-05-2012, 03:05:22
Beneitez is slated to be interim... again. lame
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 18-05-2012, 04:05:35
Lol, i was just laughing at some Milan fans saying that Pirlo was broken, Pirlo did an excellent campaign on Juve.

Now the same Milan fans are saying that Montolivo, their newest signing, is better than Pirlo.





U MAD.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 18-05-2012, 15:05:41
Beneitez is slated to be interim... again. lame

Benitez would be the IDEAL replacement for Kenny. Ticks every box you could want for a Liverpool manager.

He can finish the job he started, this time with decent American owners rather than the cancerous parasites we had in charge last time.

Most importantly, Benitez would attract the kind of players that Liverpool as a club would struggle to get nowadays.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 19-05-2012, 01:05:05
Benitez? No thanks...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 19-05-2012, 01:05:21
Realistically, name someone better for the job
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 19-05-2012, 02:05:43
Roberto Martinez might be good option, but for me the coach for such club must have big experience, so Fabio Capello is best option for me.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 19-05-2012, 03:05:05
Fair enough, Capello would be a great choice.

The only problem would be that he may not want to work in the UK again after the way he was treated by the media whilst England manager.

I like Martinez but he doesn't have anywhere near the experience required to be the Liverpool manager. Maybe in 10 years but not now.

Do you go to watch your team Kwiot? What are the crowds like? All the newspapers here have been stirring up this idea that black players/fans at the Euros are going to be abused by skinheaded psychotic Polish fascists  ::)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 19-05-2012, 04:05:43
Couldn't agree more about Fabio Capello, I would love to see him in Liverpool.

Martinez is too inexperienced I feel, I'm too afraid we'll see a new Roy Hodgson if he takes over 'pool.

FSG seems to want a young long-term manager, and therefore have excluded Capello. In that regard, the dream would be Jörgen Klopp from Dortmund, which seems highly unlikely to me (Dortmund being in the form they are, and playing CL, while liverpool is in the opposite position). Considering this, I'd love to see Villas-Boas take over, just don't let Guardiola take over, that reeks of failure.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 19-05-2012, 06:05:19
Sieg Bayern!!! All hail FC Hollywood!

Chelsea is quite a big challenge for them, but I am really hoping for Bayern to crush EPL over-popularity.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 19-05-2012, 11:05:56
The final can really go any way.

Both teams have several suspensions on key-players. The game is played in Allianz Arena, and all in all Bayern is a better team. I'm having bayern as real favourites, like pretty much everyone else. However, it's in these situations that Chelsea excell. I wanna put down some money on this game, but it's impossible to choose one.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 19-05-2012, 11:05:33
Bayern needs to win for Tottenham Hotspurs!

If Bayern don't win Chelsea will automatically take Tottenhams CL spot and it's Europa League for Tottenham.

Today, all Spurs fans are Bayern fans.

(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/p480x480/555209_412893495412298_156377737730543_1308016_2073534643_n.jpg)

(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/550712_412892212079093_156377737730543_1308015_997327495_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 19-05-2012, 12:05:29
That's good. I stated this before, I hate Bayern generally, as most other Germans that are no Bayern-fans :P But in CL it's something else. It's the German team so I support them. Furthermore, I like Hotspurs better than Chelsea, so I want Totenham to get the CL spot for next year as well.

I think Chelsea is beatable. I saw them live in the preliminaries, when Leverkusen won 2:1 against them. But that was under their old trainer and they nearly did not make it to last 16. With Di Matteo they developed a lot I guess and their effective and amazing performance vs. Barca showed they are tactically well positioned.

I still think that the Bayern players are thinking about that 5:2 disaster in the DFB-Pokal finals vs Dortmund last week, maybe that's a litte disadvantage in terms of self-confidence. On the other hand they have home advantage, which evens things out.

Problem with Bayern is, that they have to control the game and keep the offensive push up. When that does not work, key players like Robben get demotivated very fast. That's what happened vs Dortmund last week. When Bayerns tactic does not work out and Chelsea manages to keep them out of shooting range, players get furstrated and Bayern begins to play horrible. The defense is even weaker than usually due to several bans of defensive players. Chelsea has to suffer similar things though, so it's alright.

I nevertheless think that Bayern is gonna make it. We'll see. I'm excited =D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 19-05-2012, 22:05:49
IMO, Chelsea doesnt deserve to be in this Final but, this is something fresh.

EVERYONE expected a boring (Not boring, intense but its always the same) Real Madrid v Barcelona final, this is a nice alternative.


But i want Bayern Munich to win, mainly because i simply hate EPL teams (Except for Tottenham) and because Bayern Munich has a great team. Robbery, Robben-Ribery
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: NTH on 19-05-2012, 23:05:46
Goalies wearing funny hats are the true winners of this CL Final !
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Eglaerinion on 19-05-2012, 23:05:44
Robben choked again. Same during the WC final.

Nobody wanted Chelsea to win, except Chelsea fans. Bayern had enough chances tonight. Especially Gomez missed two or three big opportunities to score the opening goal.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 19-05-2012, 23:05:05
Chelsea doesnt deserve this UCL, they're a good Anti-Football team.





Don't rage.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Sgt.KAR98 on 20-05-2012, 00:05:22
S...those f had to win...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 20-05-2012, 00:05:11
A famous sports journalist was asked who he thought was going to win CL tonight earlier today.

The journalist was Erik Niva, one of the best Swedish sports journalists out there and also a huge Tottenham fan.

- Everything in the solar system of football circulates around the fact that everything should go shit for Tottenham - So Chelsea will win

And here we are again, Europa League. Rubin Kazan, Young Boys, Alkamaar. You name it.

I can think of several players who might drop out of a potential move towards Tottenham since they lost their CL chance. Loic Remy for sure is gone, baby, gone.

Fuck.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 20-05-2012, 01:05:11
FUCK THIS ROBBEN !

Seriously, this guy... You might not know but he missed over 9000 penalties in German league, he rarely hit vs Madrid (cassilas was so close to keep it off the goal) and when the sound of the whistle came up, I fuckin knew RObben is gonna grab the ball. And well all sat together and shouted: OH MY GOD NO, NOT ROBBEN, NOT ROBBEN !

It was so fucking obvious, I want to kick that guys balls so hard !

Drogba and Cech deserve the vicotry, because they are players with class and skill. All those other Chelsea mofo's make me rage when I just look at them.

Bayern 20 corner, Chelsea 1 ? Goals by Corner: 0:1 Unbelievable stuff...

And this Robben, I hope Boateng or someone destroys him physically in the upcoming European Championsship when Germany plays vs Netherlands - okay, okay, I am shittalking, but Robben makes me highly mad. Thank god I am just a munich fan for today. NExt time he fucks up a penalty I can laugh again.

Anyway, strong header from Drogba, that guy is just the boss on the field, no doubt. Chelseas play is boring but effective, that's waht counts. Di Matteo made simply the best out of a good, but without him not the best team at all. So good job at that. That Tottenham didn't make it is sad, but I don't really care too much about that right now. Can't get Robben out of my head.

For some people it's just a player that missed a penalty, which happens, to us it was obvious and he's not the right person to do it. He does not have the nerves for that. Just look at him when hes going to shoot. Furthermore he ALWAYS shoots a center-right weak shot, every time the exactly same shot, everytime. You just have to be mad when he does it in a champions league final with the chance of winning the game. I can't believe it...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 20-05-2012, 01:05:41
I really like how Di Matteo mentioned AVB and how he actually was the man who founded the Chelsea that just won the Champions League. Class.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 20-05-2012, 01:05:58
A famous sports journalist was asked who he thought was going to win CL tonight earlier today.

The journalist was Erik Niva, one of the best Swedish sports journalists out there and also a huge Tottenham fan.

- Everything in the solar system of football circulates around the fact that everything should go shit for Tottenham - So Chelsea will win

And here we are again, Europa League. Rubin Kazan, Young Boys, Alkamaar. You name it.

I can think of several players who might drop out of a potential move towards Tottenham since they lost their CL chance. Loic Remy for sure is gone, baby, gone.

Fuck.

Don't forget Internazionale, hehe.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 20-05-2012, 04:05:46
German will have football crisis because of this  :(  >:(

Well, Robben might have some sympathy for his former club.

For the next Champions cup, I support JUVENTUS F.C. to the fullest! Forza La Vecchia Signora! And too bad for Rawhide, Chelsea stole Spurs' spot in next CL.  :(
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 20-05-2012, 11:05:46
No comment to the result of the final match... Anty football won again... And obviously Robben wasted chances for the trophy for his team like for Netherlands in WC, like in the league against BvB.... I think they will sell him or not let him make penalty kicks anymore :P But as somebody said, Drogba and Cech deserved this trophy for 100% sure.

Do you go to watch your team Kwiot? What are the crowds like? All the newspapers here have been stirring up this idea that black players/fans at the Euros are going to be abused by skinheaded psychotic Polish fascists  ::)

Yes, I'll watch my team definately and they must go through such easy group - it's a minimum. What about the fascist? Well, I hope not... I hope that people will be friendly to show everything best about our country in Euro time... If it happens, it will be only single examples...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 20-05-2012, 13:05:18
Robben signed a contract until 2015 at munich a few weeks ago. There was speculation before, if they are going to sell him, because there were several problems with him and the team. His charakter does not fit for munich imo. He fought a lot with Ribery and especially Müller in the past. Often during the game. He can play good for sure, but he'S often injured as well and a fuckin Diva. I'd not want a player like that in my team. But being Bayern fan was restricted to yesterday anyway, so I just care in case they play good in CL next year again ;)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 20-05-2012, 13:05:31
Fucking Robben, worthless game last night (considering how much ball he had).

Feels like no one ever wins against Robben, he just loses against everybody.

Feel so bad for Schweini.


Also, Fuck you Roman, I really wished you'd never win the CL.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 20-05-2012, 17:05:46
Today, Racing Club vs Boca Juniors, i will be there at the Magic Cilindro.



Hate bosteros, HATE THEM.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 20-05-2012, 19:05:13
I think I need to apologise to my Dutch friends. Actually, I don't hate the Netherlands football team, I only hate Arjen Robben. Now I realise.

And Bayern needs to sell someone like this who keeps wasting chances. And "diva" is the correct term to describe this guy. He hogs all the spotlight. Ribery is kind of the same, but it is because he hates losing. So no wonder they both fight each other.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 20-05-2012, 22:05:30
Wow, you guys can go overboard sometimes ;)

Yes, I was supporting Bayern too, yesterday. Yes, it sucks imo that Chelsea won and a bought together team which plays unattractive football wins the CL. Bought together by a guy who for sure didn't get his wealth in a nice and honest way (I mean, who does?) btw.  And yes, I also thought that Robbenw as gonna miss the penalty.

But the fact that Bayern lost is not Robbens fault. It isn't Ribery's fault. It isn't Gomez' fault. The team failed to score a lot more goals than they did. They had chances to make at least 8 goals yet they make only one. That is too little when you play at home. Also, the fact that Chelsea could score from their 2nd corner (yes, they had one before they scored) is a fault of the defense of Bayern. So the entire team is to blame. Not one guy.

Also, when Robben plays well at EC and scores goals again, everyone will again call him a great player and stuff. And then nobody will talk about his diva-ism (which I dislike a lot, just to make it clear) anymore. You guys sound a bit like the press ;)

Oh, and Surfbird, this is not true:
Furthermore he ALWAYS shoots a center-right weak shot, every time the exactly same shot, everytime.
Remember the penalty vs Real?  ;) I can mention other examples if you like :)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 20-05-2012, 23:05:13
Juventus just lost their first match in a long time, Coppa Italia Final vs Napoli.


Terrible, this is what Del Piero will get? Damn.



The worst thing for me, is that i had a dream in wich Juventus goes down 2-0 and Napoli wins the trophy, it became true.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 20-05-2012, 23:05:49
@ Slayer

Ok, remembered the one vs Real wrong then, thought it was right too. But I remember those vs Dortmund (1 of them was a goal though) and 1 or 2 others, not clearly though, it's well possible I am wrong again, just some unclear memories.

I sound like the press, no doubt. I got to admit I wrote this yesterday evening, led by my emotions :P Of course it's not just Robbens fault. It's just sad that you have to look into his face and see no self confidence, but tons of tension. I never understood why the "stars" or those who want to be something like that shoot penalties in the game.

Every player is under pressure of the CL finals, a Robben has personal pressure on him additionaly. Imo a defender or someone else who is not as much in the focus of the media and fans should shoot it. Every professional football player is able to shoot a good penalty I think in a final its probably 30 % penalty shooting skillz and 70 % handling the pressure. There are indeed star players that shoot good penalties and are pretty experienced and good at it, Robben is none of them and still does it all the time. Well, it's also Heynckes fault. He's the one that fixes the penalty shooter, players usually change if they don't want to shoot the penaly though.

Robben is generally self confident, but not when he missed penalties in the past, not in a CL final. It's easy to blame the penalty shooter, I know, and I don't really want to blame him for loosing the game. Football is a team sport and Munich did not manage to use their opportunities, but letting Robben shoot was imo a fault which may have cost them victory.

Additionally I don't like him personally. All that comes together and I sound like the press. I exaggerated, no doubt. See it more like some emotional rageposts, than critical analysis. What you say is obviously right, but I don't even want to think what went wrong in detail, I want to blame Robben for the part of the game he failed, but not for loosing the game overall ;)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 21-05-2012, 00:05:36
I wonder why, in a team full of germans (who as we all know, are renowned for ther penalties), they let the one dutch guy take the penalty.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Smiles on 21-05-2012, 12:05:38
Imo the best penalty taker should take it, and after this mone that isnt Robben any longer ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 21-05-2012, 17:05:31
Torenico, feel free to correct me but wasn't Juventus quite weak last night against Napoli? I was sure Del Piero and the lads would make it but no :(
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 21-05-2012, 19:05:51
It was weak. I was surprised Juve was playing like that.


Conte went to play against Napoli with some alternative players. Napoli's hunger ate Juve.


Buffon didnt play, his place was taken by Storari. Borriello played as a striker, bad player, considering he doesnt offer too much, Vucinic should have played instead of Borriello.


But, Napoli did a good job on not letting Pirlo and Del Piero play freely, i guess they deserve it.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 21-05-2012, 22:05:16
I just forgot to show you guys the result of the awesome relegational game in the Bundesliga like 1 or 2 weeks ago ! I mean that one that makes the 3.-last from second league play vs the 3.-last from first league, 2 matches, like in CL. This happened in Düsseldorf (fans there are known to be totally retarded and stupid)

The 2:2 is enough for Düsseldorf to relegate to first league. If Berlin would have shot the 3:2, Düsseldorf would have lost. There was 7 minutes overtime already when Düseldorf fans stormed the field, thinking the game is over, but it wasn't. It was munute 6 of overtime and 1 minute to play. Resulted in some funny moments:

get to 10:30

get to 11:55

get to 13:03 (that guy looks like Balotelli lol, but got insulted in a racialistic way by Lell. That has nothing to do with football, Lell should be banned)

get to 13:50

:D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGP8po87hhU&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGP8po87hhU&feature=related)

Bundesliga is fucking funny these days :D In Germany were tons of discussions about pyrotechnics in stadiums the last few months and the overall result was to search people a lot more and prohibit it with even more forces than already - just resulted in more pyrotechnics lol.

Everyone is stating how unbelievable it is what happened there. I agree, but it was incredibly funny to me too.

After 20 minutes of break the 1 minute was played and the game stayed being a 2:2. THen the fans stormed the field and were allowed to.

The referee did a damn good job in this game and officially accused several Berlin players for punching and kicking him after the game. he said he feared for his life, it's unbelievable.

Berlin accused Düsseldorf at the DFB-court for disturbing the game and making their players play the one minute in total fear of death and tried to make the match get repeated. The accuse was rejected today, for a reason :)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 21-05-2012, 23:05:43
That was intense, reminds me of River Plate's relegation to Second Division:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=fvwp&v=P9-VpEzCeRQ

Its so easy to break into the playing field, one of them could have injured any of the players if they wanted to.

The second match, at the legendary Monumental wasn't that bad, River and Belgrano ended up 1-1, wich means relegation of River Plate, at the end the entire River Plate squad got surrounded by security personnel and the Belgrano players had to run out of the field under a rain of stones and pieces of seats. Outside, epic battles against the Police.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 21-05-2012, 23:05:00
Pyrotechnics? They're on every match in Poland :P Funny was when the fan took the grass and made quite  big hole in the pitch and as it turned out, before the match ended :D

Lol Torenico, they forgot to turn on electrocity in this fence! :P Fence looks like was taken from a prison - higher than stand and with such beautiful ending :D Even though, they managed to cut through...  ::)


 ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 23-05-2012, 20:05:02
12 match ban for Joey Barton's due to his actions on the last QPR game of the season against Manchester City

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAGiGT89G24
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 23-05-2012, 21:05:02
I'd like him to be banned for a whole season + financial punishement to be honest. But 12 matches ban is still a lot of games and well deserved.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 23-05-2012, 22:05:26
I have never seen such a mental guy as that one. Wonder when he gets banned next...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 23-05-2012, 22:05:04
If he played for England or Man United it wouldn't have even been close to 8 games.

The FA are undoubtedly corrupt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjVU6Twg2lg&feature=fvwrel

Let's ban Joey Barton for 8 games for violent conduct then appeal this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NlsC0MDNsw
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 27-05-2012, 15:05:43
This is so great!

"Retiring football player substituted for his 5-year old son in his last game"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29-yhzCcutc

I love the players, that failed sliding-tackle is great
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 27-05-2012, 17:05:52
Yeh it's good to see there is still some heart left in football.

I've actually heard that it was the director's son, not the player's, but it is still a wonderful gesture and that kid will have some great memories.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 27-05-2012, 17:05:48
Very cute, and not only the tackle, but also the goalkeeper and the other defenders were great :)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 27-05-2012, 17:05:04
12 days and 22 minutes left until the Euro's are here!

Bring the thunder!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 27-05-2012, 18:05:48
Germany lost 5:3 against Switzerland yesterday. Shameful, but I consider this as a positive sign. They often fail the test games but play an awesome tournament. Germany is just a "tournament-team" :p
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 27-05-2012, 20:05:52
Germany lost 5:3 against Switzerland yesterday. Shameful, but I consider this as a positive sign. They often fail the test games but play an awesome tournament. Germany is just a "tournament-team" :p
From the group where Germany is in, all teams played badly so far.

Denmark - Brazil 1-3 (that wasn't even so bad)
Germany - Switzerland 3-5
Netherlands - Bulgaria 1-2
Portugal - Macedonia 0-0
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 27-05-2012, 20:05:35
Forza Italia!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 28-05-2012, 01:05:13
When I saw these results above, I went into conclusion that 1-0 against Latvia and SLovakia is not so bad for Polish team... What's more, we didn't loose a goal in the last four matches!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 28-05-2012, 12:05:35
Only in Italy (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/competitions/serie-a/9294215/Lazios-Stefano-Mauri-arrested-and-Italy-defender-Domenico-Criscito-targetted-by-police-over-match-fixing-claims.html)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 02-06-2012, 10:06:06
6 days left until the Euro's!

 I can't wait.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 02-06-2012, 12:06:47
Yeah, me too!!!  ;D I hope it will be endless summer! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EVhiBGvVFc&ob=av3e)  ;)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 02-06-2012, 13:06:37
Me too ! There have been better EM/Wm songs though =D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 02-06-2012, 14:06:23
From 8th of june, until 28th of june, there are only 2 days when no games are played at all. 20th and 25th. Otherwise, 2 games per day. 18:00 and 20:45
I'm so psyched


Regarding football songs, this is the only one that's more than tolerable
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ3XlpJqPt0

(and the swedish one from '94 of course)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 02-06-2012, 15:06:28
Ted, so true.

Check this post from Olof Lundh, nice collection of Swedish football songs.

http://blogg.fotbollskanalen.se/lundh/2012/06/01/vilken-em-lat-ska-vi-ha/
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 02-06-2012, 15:06:03
So what are your favourites to win EURO? For me Spain will be still strong, but not as strong as in the previous championships. Germany and Netherlands will also fight for the trophy. Also, I think France will be back after pathethic defeats.

I think Italy and England will end up quite quickly... Italy changed players for much younger, but less skillful than previous players whot became world champions. Proof? They have just lost with RussiaEngland, because it has many problems - coach, Rooney penalty, Lampard injury.... So, Sweden will have some chances to get out from group  ;)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 02-06-2012, 16:06:33
Spain and Germany for sure but I think Holland really will make it this time. They had a great run in 2010 and I think they'll finally pull through this time with their amazing squad.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 02-06-2012, 17:06:03
When it comes to football I have to hate Holland more than everything on earth ! I hope NL gets kicked as soon as possible, lots of divas in that team. Well, Robben plays better there as for bayern I'm sure and van Persie is a beast atm, but I think they will struggle against well organized teams.

Germany played crappy test games, but that's always the case. I think I stated this before. Germany is a tournament team. There's always a great atmosphere at the tournaments in the German team and the players are highly motivated. I do not feel too confident though and I doubt Germany is going to win the EM.

If nothing goes wrong Spain should win it, they are strong and all that Barcelona players probably were disappointed about 2. place in league and the loss vs. Chelsea, so they are probably pumped for winning the EM.

Italy is a bunch of morons, probably the team I hate even more than Holland. I don't think they will play a good tournament. Probably make it through the preliminaries by diving, as against Australia 2006. Still hate them for that and always will.

France might really have recovered. I think they will play nice football and maybe be a surprise. I think they are capable of reaching the semi finals or even the finals.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 02-06-2012, 18:06:00
I wish Italy wins this Euro because:

I hate Spain, too much barcelona - madrid shit

I hate England, mainly because of Argentina - England matches

I hate Germany, because they kicked our asses at South Africa

I dont like France

I dont really like the Netherlands

Poland?

Ukraine?

Denmark??????

Italy  8)


But Italy's squad is weak. A very good Goalkeeper, veteran also, winner of a World Cup and one of the best out there. Not-so-good defense, it might be good i think, BUT ITS NOT an ITALIAN DEFENSE, those who watched Italy all over the years will understand why Italy should have the best defense in Europe.

Good Midfield, Pirlo Marchisio De Rossi will do a good job i think. Lack of veterans on the attack, i dont think Cassano was the right choice, i dont think Montolivo is a good player, i would have called Del Piero and Totti for this Euro and team up with Balotelli.


We'll see.


Also Argentina vs Ecuador today, WILL NOT WATCH IT. Argentina failed me so many times, im fucking sick of it. Goalkeepers sucks, defenders, sucks, midfield, sucks, the only good thing is Messi and Aguero, Di Maria?, you mean, Angel "I PLAY ALONE" Di Maria?. Mr. Sabella think he can make up a National Team combining Argentina's stars and Estudiantes de la Plata squad (Wich sucks tbh), wtf is this shit. I miss the old Bielsa or Basile days, with 11 great players. Now its shit.

 

Note: I dont hate any of these nations, i just hate their football.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 02-06-2012, 21:06:08
When it comes to football I have to hate Holland more than everything on earth ! I hope NL gets kicked as soon as possible, lots of divas in that team. Well, Robben plays better there as for bayern I'm sure and van Persie is a beast atm, but I think they will struggle against well organized teams.
What other divas than Robben are in the Dutch team in your opinion?

I think France will be a positive surprise too, like others here.

About Spain and Germany I can be short: big chance to win, luck will deicde whether they succeed or not. Although Villas absence and lack of shape of Torres will be a slight problem for Spain.

About Netherlands: I hope they will do well, but I'm on the fence. They will reach the finals or they will fail completely in the group phase. I disagree on the squad the coach is putting on, but we will see: maybe he is right, maybe I am ;)

I think Italy will fail because of the shite going on in their country with the match fixing and because of lack of talented enough new players.

England will fail because of lack of too many experienced players like Ferdinand and Lampard.

Portugal will fail because they aren't a real team: Ronaldo will play for himself as usual.

All outsiders have a chance: nobody expects anything from them, but teams like Denmark, Sweden and Croatia can surprise us all, and Poland and Ukraine might have an advantage with the referees because they play at home.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 02-06-2012, 23:06:35
I even think that Poland has a pretty nice team. I don't know how they play together in the National team, but there are good players around. A good bunch of them played awesome at Borussia Dortmund. Lewandowski, Pisczek, Blaszczykowski play there and all had a great season. Although they are probably the highlights of the team along with Arsenal keeper Szczesny. Although he didn't play really good at Arsenal afaik. Anyway, let's see. I think Poland has a good chance to make it to the quarter or semifinals. THeir group is pretty even. No real favourite in it.

About the divas in the Holland team.

Robben is definitely the over-diva. Van der Vaart can be something like that too, but less than Robben. Van Persie was a diva imo in his young years, but I got to admit that he is not really anymore. Not sure about Affelay.

For the rest diva might not perfectly fit, but Van Bommel, Heitinga and de Jongh are just assholes. Thats my German and due to that anti-Holland biased opinion, but that whole team is slimy like a slug. Not just right now, it has been like that ever since I can remember ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Eglaerinion on 03-06-2012, 00:06:33
I'm Dutch and I don't even care much about our team. The current coach, Bert van Marwijk, has invented the double standard, plays favourites with some players and has destroyed the good name our football always had worldwide.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 03-06-2012, 01:06:33
Pfft, Van Marwijk bashing is so cheap.

You really prefer "a good name" over real titles and prizes?

Instead of leaving the tournament early with nice football (like in 2008) I prefer a tournament where the team can finally win something again. It would be nice to end the "Yes, you guys play nice football, but you never win anything" meme.

Winning with nice play is cool, but winning is more important.

@Surfbird: OK, I get that. When I was young *cough*grandpa speaks*cough* I also hated the German team and I was totally wanting them to lose everytime I saw them play. I grew up, I guess ;)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 03-06-2012, 02:06:12
Don't get me wrong, I don't "hate" any countries. I may dislike players here and there, but I'm not too serious with what I am saying. I can't deny the personal importance to me that I want Germany to be better than the Netherlands in a tournament though.

It's some kind of tradition to do so and Germany vs Netherlands games are always something special. My first choice is my homeland Germany. When they are out of the tournament the golden rule is to hope for the underdog and/or for the team that plays the most attractive football. In the final Spain vs NL I'd even hope for NL since Spain has won enough imo.

Anyway, I'd lie if I say that I want Holland to be succesful, but I also don't want them to loose everytime I see them. It's probably my big enthusiams to football that keeps me away from looking at things as the neutral observer.

I often go for "public viewing" in a local ice hockey and event arena when the big tournaments are running and watching Germany with my mates and 20.000 other people (Its free :D). It's a pandemonium of nationalistic Germans ;D It's kinda hard to stay neutral to rivals like the Netherlands.

Apart from that: Sometimes I feel like our nation unleashes all that national pride we had to hide since 1945 in that tournaments. England has a queen to celebrate others their nations history. We celebrate football since 2006 more excessive than ever before :) That's also a reason why I look so forward to next week !
 
The only nation I will truly dislike to win in whatever situation is Italy. I can't stand most of the players and overall Italian football is kinda corrupt and feels wrong. Personal preferences etc. Or just the common German mainstream opinion again.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 03-06-2012, 03:06:28
4-0 win against Ecuador, Messi, Aguero, Higuain and Di Maria, alright.


But i want to see them against a better team.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 03-06-2012, 14:06:40
Don't get me wrong, I don't "hate" any countries. I may dislike players here and there, but I'm not too serious with what I am saying. I can't deny the personal importance to me that I want Germany to be better than the Netherlands in a tournament though.

It's some kind of tradition to do so and Germany vs Netherlands games are always something special.
Yes, I know about the tradition, Germany vs Netherlands games are always called "krakers", which means extraordinary games. The rivalry has evolved, it is more sane now. In the 70s and 80s it had some insane aspects to it, but they're gone now. Van Bommel and Robben having played/playing for Bayern has helped to change it a little. But, I like the tradition as it is, and it returns every tournament.

Just like every tournament the 16 million coaches in the Netherlands stand up and say how the team should play better, that the gameplay looks terrible and bash the real coach, it is a tradition too ;)

Apart from that: Sometimes I feel like our nation unleashes all that national pride we had to hide since 1945 in that tournaments. England has a queen to celebrate others their nations history. We celebrate football since 2006 more excessive than ever before :)
Yes, I think you might have a point there. Why is it more excessive since 2006? Since the tournament was in Germany?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 03-06-2012, 15:06:56
Yes. The relation to football changed, when the championsship took place. 2006 was a big party.

A lot of credit goes to Jürgen Klinsmann, who was popular as a player himself and was the coach back then and brought a very new attitude to the German team. Different methods of training, he celebrated a goal like winning an important game.

He said very early that it's his goal to win the 2006 tournament. Germany did not manage to get to the quarterfinals 2004 in Portugal and people first laughed at him, but he was serious and enforced team spirit during training and used strange looking methods of training. Things that were completely new. He did his own thing.

While he did his work there was a lot of hype in the media. We have all been looking forward to be a great host and there was a special atmosphere. Not even about Germany, just about the pleasure of staging the championsships. There were a bunch of popular bands and artists that performed (German biased) songs, which were great.

That time "public viewing" (I know it has a different meaning in English. But that's the official term for a event like that over here) was introduced. Thousands of people that were unable to get tickets, watching football together. Everywhere in Germany.

Jogi Löw, our current coach, was the assistant coach back then and he kept the Klinsmann-style up. Klinsmann might not be the best coach in general, especially not for a club (he failed at munich), but he got the team spirit going like nobody else before and Löw still uses his methods. These 2 guys managed to get the spirit in the national team that was missing before and is still missing for a lot of other countries like England nowadays.

Still got goosebumps (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCtwVBhxzVs) when I watch the penalty shootout Germany-Argentina. 2006 was so amazing ! We did not win, but still we felt like. Really never had this spirit in our country for a long time. But now we have it at every championsship, which is absolutely awesome.

Sorry for the long story, I fail to make short posts over and over again :P
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 03-06-2012, 16:06:06
Yes, a lot of credits go to Klinsmann and Löw for making German football attractive to watch. Before it was quite sturdy but not so beautiful. Actually, a lot of people said that Klinsmann and Löw made Germany play like the Netherlands ;)

At least for me it was a lot more enjoyable to watch Germany play, and although I was supporting England against Germany in the last WC (because of the phantom goal by Lampard, I can't stand that kind of injustice), I still thought they played better. As neutral as I can be, I like German football nowadays.

But of course I still hope Netherlands win in their game against them  ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 03-06-2012, 22:06:10
Why nobody mentioned that Brendan Rodgers became new Liverpool coach? I don't know what to think about him, he had never trained class team, but on the other hand, he finished with Swansea on 11th place... And Kuyt is leaving to Fenerbahce... I think it is high time for this...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 03-06-2012, 22:06:01
Plus he's worked under van Gaal and Mourinho in Chelsea, speaks fluent spanish and italian.
Senior manager for Watford, Reading and Swansea.

Sure, no big clubs. And I'd rather have seen Capello as new manager.
Sadly, van Gaal was supposed to take over as "director of football", which would have been absolutely perfect. But Rodgers want to have full control.

I think he will be great. He wants to play a posession-game, and Swansea was a pure joy to watch last season.
A short comparison on player-material on the offensive half.

                 Carroll                                 Graham
Downing - Gerrard - Suarez     Sinclair - Sigurdsson - Dyer

Pretty similar type of playes. Carroll is one class better than Graham (but kinda the same type of player), Suarez better than Dyer, Gerrard better than sigurdsson (maybe not this season, but overall class). Downing is the only of these positions I'd consider Liverpool to be weaker in than Swansea.

I'm excited at rodgers. Sigurdsson's transfer to swansea has been halted since he wants to play for rodgers (and is a prime target now). Will be exciting to follow him in pool
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 04-06-2012, 12:06:22
I'd like to see Maxi instead of Downing there...  ;)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Paasky on 04-06-2012, 16:06:41
FB update from a bar in Tallinn:

Drink Bar & Grill
Live Euro 2012 this coming weekend. IF there's a team playing and we've got beers (and ciders) in the fridge produced in the same country..then it's -15% discount on them during the match (thank GOD Belgium didn't qualify!).

So for this weekend:
Friday we've got -15% on Czech beers
Saturday we've got -15% on Danish beer and German beer.
Sunday we've got -15% on Irish beer.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 04-06-2012, 18:06:33
Nice idea, I'd probably give it a daily visit :D

If you are there on saturday, please tell me what German beer they chose to give you. I'm interested if they at least deliver quality stuff or cheap supermarket beer.
You can also look forward to Friday, Czech beer is awesome. At least thats my experience from my "vacation" in prague last year :P

Sounds overall awesome. I wish local pubs introduced that here as well.

Edit: Nvm , misread it. Thought they only have that beer for the championsship games.  But I'd also wish w  had international beer all the time or just for a few days around here, but we have not >.<
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 04-06-2012, 19:06:57
I just want to see the Dutch team losses. That's all for this Euro 2012. Too many too hate, and only a few to like. Never mind me, I'm a hater anyway.

But I am expecting surprises, e.g. German temporary comeback and then fails again hilariously (copyrighted @ German national team's play since 1994). And then the cream of the crop: Spain's ultimate defeat from an underdog.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 04-06-2012, 23:06:39
So...

 Joey Barton arrested after a midnight brawl outside a pub in Liverpool.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 04-06-2012, 23:06:06
(http://i49.tinypic.com/2954iz7.png)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 05-06-2012, 02:06:35
He was out with his wife in Garlands (a gay club  ???) and a gang of lads started trying to wind him up.

Apparently Joey decked one of them before being set upon by the rest.

Here is a snapshot of the incident

(http://cheezpictureisunrelated.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/ifruiti-bigbadwolf.jpg)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 05-06-2012, 12:06:56
Is he bisexual or his wife is a man?  ;D

Edit:
Childs going to school in the backround...  ::) In Poland, isn't tolerated such behaviour... A man wearing woman's clothes might have problems here...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Thorondor123 on 05-06-2012, 12:06:41
Pro tip: Straight people are allowed in gay bars.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 05-06-2012, 12:06:16
So...

 Joey Barton arrested after a midnight brawl outside a pub in Liverpool.

Good news, he finally is where he belongs to.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 05-06-2012, 14:06:39
Regarding to the photo - do you have snow in England in June?  ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 05-06-2012, 15:06:41
You know what English weather is like....

Regarding the bar, I've been in there once or twice and I can't say it's the type of place you could imagine Joey Barton frequenting. They definitely don't play The Smiths.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 06-06-2012, 14:06:34
I for once actually think Joey Barton is a decent player when he actually plays football.

Two days more and then the Euro's are ON!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 06-06-2012, 17:06:14
Regarding to the photo - do you have snow in England in June?  ;D
Can't tell if trolling or just stupid.

The pic isn't even remotely connected to Joey Bartons brawl, Chadoi was having a laugh.

Also: can't wait.
Made bets covering the whole tournament with 100 more people. To mix it up, and to differ from the rest of the people, I bet that Poland will beat Holland in the quarter-finals, and advance to semi, while Robert Lewandowski is the top scorer. I consider that far from impossible, poland does have a stronger team than you expect.

I'm certain France will win the group quite easily, and Sweden will come second. Turmoil surrounds the england-squad; new manager, many many injuries, questionable players chosen for the squad etc.
While Ukraine have potential, i'm unsure of their defense. They are missing 3 of their best goalkeepers, and despite being a host, I think they'll quickly leave the cup.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 06-06-2012, 19:06:10
I think France really can shake the cage in their group with Sweden, England and Ukraine if they get going in the right direction.

I want to count England away but you can't really. Roy is no schmuck and still with all the injuries and all that, England won't back down easily.

I feel anything can happen with Sweden actually, might get a hard time, might turn it around and go a long way. I'm really unsure even with all these friendly games.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 06-06-2012, 19:06:57
Speaking of Sweden, just put a few quid on Ibrahimovic to be top goal scorer at 50/1.

They have a decent group and he's in prolific form so I pretty much had to with those odds.

Anyone else put any tasty bets on?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 06-06-2012, 23:06:47
I'm certain France will win the group quite easily, and Sweden will come second. Turmoil surrounds the england-squad; new manager, many many injuries, questionable players chosen for the squad etc.
While Ukraine have potential, i'm unsure of their defense. They are missing 3 of their best goalkeepers, and despite being a host, I think they'll quickly leave the cup.
I agree :) France will be a surprise. Poland will go through, but they won't play Holland in the quater-finals, because both Poland and Holland will end up 2nd in their respective groups. Poland will play Germany and lose. Poland will survive group phase because of 1) pretty good team and 2) home advantage. Ukraine won't have the advatgae because their team pretty much sucks. Only Milevsky is something of a good player. OK, and Tymoschchuk.

England will be out after the group phase! There, a tasty bet I did. Which reminds me: I still have to send in my bet before the tournament starts. I played safely on the final: Spain vs Germany. I secretly hope I'm wrong there. Statistically the final should be Holland vs Spain. If that's gonna happen, I surely hope Holland will win, because losing twice to the same team is a nasty thing to experience.

Russia will do fine too, I bet on them being in the semifinals.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 07-06-2012, 01:06:58
Looking forward to Saturday ! Germany - Portugal. First great game, gonna be awesome :) If Germany is going to amke a good game there, they will blow Holland away like nothing. if they don't they will be blown away by Holland and not manage to get out of the group stage. German team depends a lot on the moral and atmosphere at home as well as in the team. This first game is really important.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 07-06-2012, 14:06:42
Hah, England team wasn't well welcomed by Irish fans (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qykUdp4qRXE) :D They were singing Terry is a racist for example  :P


Edit:Only 1 day left!!!!  ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 08-06-2012, 16:06:06
Tonight's the night we are gonna make it happen, tonight's the night we put all other things aside.

Pointer Sisters <3
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 08-06-2012, 19:06:36
The fuck did I just watch. First 20 minutes, Poland plays like I expected them to play. THen it turned to a hobby footballers game. So many fouls, so many misdirected passes, so many long balls into nowhere. I first hoped for Poland, buit after that retarded referee pulled the red card, I hoped for Greece. Then the other red card and the penalty. Strange game, both teams played horrible - crap vs. misery, except that first 20 minutes. Poland is not going to make it to the smi finals they aim for if they play on like that.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 08-06-2012, 20:06:00
Jesus, what an opening game!

 It really had everything, red cards, fouls, goals, a penalty. Lots of feelings and one really beautiful goal.

Euro 2012, keep them coming!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 08-06-2012, 22:06:26
Czech Republic gotta have some issues if they can make Pavlyuchenko look like a decent footballer...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 08-06-2012, 22:06:09
WHAT DA FUCK WAS THAT?!?!?!?!
Why my team has to always suck???!?!?!?!
Some conclusions - WARNING - wall of whining text:
- if we can't win against group of pensioners, how can we win against Czech or Russia??? - especially after that what these team has shown...
- we don't have center midfielders
- our coach is retarded
- our couch is stupid - he didn't make any substitutions - he wanted to make in last minute of extra time - what da fuck? - kid from kindergarden would have been  done it better
- without a good coach we can't search anything on the tournaments
- Sczesny was drunk today - probably it's the end of the tournament for him...
- Greeks are f... divers...
- And this brainless tactic which I used to see in the last Polish matches - after scoring a goal, we give the opponent the initiative and waiting for their mistakes... Pity, that we're doing it wrong by letting them to play the ball freely on our half of the pitch... That was annoying to see whole team defending, even when Greeks played 10 against our 11... ::)
- Piszczek and Kuba out of gas?  ???
- Czech must win against Greeks, or even drawn would be ok, and Poles win over Czech, and Greeks loose or drawn against Russia - that's the plan  8)
- the worst thing is that we were lucky that we didn't loose it...

I have bad feelings about my team... When we couldn't win against the weakest team, what can I expect??  ???  ::)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Sgt.KAR98 on 08-06-2012, 23:06:32
What a match!Amazing!I would say Russia is very capable of winning this Euro.They were swift and scored some magnificent goal,the same way Brazil used to do before 2006 WC.But I guess they were kinda violent.Saw them constantly pushing czech players even when they didn't have the ball.

EDIT

Didn't see Poland match,but guess it was better than Brazil last 10 matches.
At least your team don't have a couple of golden and shining a holes that everybody say to the best of the world.But can do little when playing against a national team...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 08-06-2012, 23:06:28
lol, you hype Russia like this retarded commentator we got here. Russia played good against a weak defense. They played good for a long time, but they also had bad moments, were not constant. Russia is not gonna be as succesful against better teams imo.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 08-06-2012, 23:06:10
1st match was weak.

2nd match was very good!

Cant wait for the matches tomorrow.... for obvious reasons.   ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 09-06-2012, 07:06:34
I am really disappointed with Poland. I make bet against them, and now its a loss... LOL what a loser, playing in your own crowd but makes no effort and shows little aggressiveness. Why hesitate? Why not bombard the defenses with something? And they need to keep to fresh stamina coming, substitute as much as necessary. But that performance was retarded, not even worth betting on.

Ah... Randoom, I support zee Germans as always.

Cristiano Ronaldo alone won't do anything good, even with his uber-human skillz.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 09-06-2012, 10:06:10
Good attitude Zoologic. Randoom, Portugal will get the ass kicked this evening. I have no doubt anymore, German football fever has cought me. We can not lose against some divas and second rate players. We'll send you back to the dumpster !
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 09-06-2012, 16:06:37
First match I started supporting Poland, they played in a nice and fresh manner, made a good goal but then the referree did three things wrong: he pulled a yellow card and then another one for two fouls which shouldn't even receive any kind of cards (in the 2nd match there were bigger fouls being unpunished), so a Greek player got sent off for nothing! Totally unjust! Then the Greeks should have gotten a penalty, but the ref didn't give them one. With 10 vs 11, I switched to supporting the Greeks, because I can't stand unjustice in sports. Poland collapsed for some reason and Greeks scored equalizer, then missed a penalty (that was kind of dumb, they even could have won this game).

Second match I wasn't at home, so I watched it later at night when I already knew the final score. The Czech team really wasn't that bad, it is just that the Russian team was very effective. If the Czech team was a little luckier, they could have scored the equalizer and when it would have become 2-2, I don't know if the Russians could have won. The two last goals fell in the last part of the match when the Czech team was out of breath. Still, the Russians played nice football, I think they might even reach the semi finals. Good job by Howard Webb btw. I don't really like him since WC final 2010, but he did a good job on this match.

Tonight I hope we crush the Danish team, but they are quite strong too (they ended up above Portugal in the qualifiers), so I don't think it is gonna be easy. Very curious about the 2nd match! I hope for an equal score!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 09-06-2012, 17:06:39
I think Denmark will end as always lately  - after good qualifications, 0 points in the tournament...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 09-06-2012, 19:06:01
plucky Denmark!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 09-06-2012, 19:06:45
Pfffft, superbad! Lack of spirit and some really bad performances by Vd Wiel, Robben and even Vd Vaart when he came into the pitch. Let's hope Portugal-Germany will end up 0-0, then we can still have a chance. Otherwise we are out after group phase.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 09-06-2012, 20:06:58
First surprise on Euro!!!  ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Fuchs on 09-06-2012, 21:06:22
How deep can a team sink after 2 years, hahahaha.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Eglaerinion on 09-06-2012, 21:06:34
We didn't play that bad actually. I was expecting much worse. Still if you have 28 shots/chances and only 8 are on target and none of them a goal than you can only blame yourself even if it was a clear penalty in injury time. Denmark played the best they could, were a bit lucky but in the end scored a goal and thus deserved the win.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Gezoes on 09-06-2012, 22:06:15
That was a short EC. The Danes did what they could, and even won. Well done to them.

Robben on the right is great news for any team. No assists from the right, very predictable and easy to defend. Our left isn't much better. Van Persie = fail (that makes how many times now?) and Huntelaar is on the bench.

Our great attacking line? We have no attacking line.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 09-06-2012, 22:06:13
We didn't play that bad actually.
I agree, but it's only goals that count.

Luckily, Germany and Portugal both didn't play so well either. Actually we played the best fieldplay of all four, yet we are on shared 3th spot with Portugal. I can only hope the play wil result in goals next few matches.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 09-06-2012, 22:06:18
Germany vs Portugal
Ha! That wasn't a clear advantage by the Germans. As we predicted, Ronaldo really has the uber human skillz. But that comes to nothing.

Both team aren't willing to take risks, hence less chance for scoring. But that's good, keeping the Dutch at bay. The last thing they need is a defeat by Portugal. Denmark itself is full of surprises... Worthy of their nickname, the dynamite.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 10-06-2012, 01:06:42
HAHA, what an awesome day ;D

Seriously, I did not even think about Holland having trouble vs Denmark and then this, awesome :D Back to the dumpster Dutchies =DD Haaa, this feels so good. Especially because I can tell this to you Dutchmen. Well, I'm better careful - who knows what happens on Wednesday. Holland has to make points so they will fight ! Robben played as always in Munich: Dribbling on right flank heading for the middle, shoot with the left foot, ifnore the free teammate and kick the ball high above the goal. Go on with that vs Germany dear sir.

Deutschland !!!!

Yea, we played horrible, I admit it. After winning vs Holland last Fall we never came back to the awesome playstyle we had there. I think the first goal was the breakthrough though. Kicking some Dutchies' ass should help motivation too. We were lucky, but that does not matter. We won. It was (I was at public viewing) relatively quiet during the match. Before the match people were singing, atmosphere was awesome. When Gomez scored that goal the crowd exploded of course and people were singing and partying after the game like we won easily 4:0, I like that though :D Anyway, Manuel Neuer was really reliable again. We won because of him, awesome keeper.


On another, serious note I have to say something to fan behaviour.

The behaviour of fans ( I speak for Germany here, don't know too much about the developement in other countries) has become a lot worse in the past few years. When I saw the German fans throwing paper balls on Portugese players I felt really embarassed. That's not sporting and those people should be ashamed. Furthermore in the last few years whistling and booing the opposing team has become a trend. That's totally not sporting as well. I noticed this in general though. It's normal in the first few minutes of the game or when a penalty is shot or when someone deserves it with a foul, but just booing a team over a lot of time just because they have the ball is awful.

Another thing is pyrotechnics. I watched the Worlchampionsship 2 years ago at the same location, a local icehockey-and event stadium. Party was friendly and peaceful, football was celebrated like it should be. This year there was more pyro in German stadiums than ever before. I'm not totally against pyrotechnics as long as its fired before the game, limited, people are careful with it and do not throw it on the field.
Today, they fired flares in a closed roof stadium, in the middle of the crowd that was standing there and risked panic and injuries and cancelling of the event. If that continues there won't be any public events for watching football anymore at this great location. They also fired firecrackers, as loud as real explosions and stuff. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a pussy, but this behaviour developed horribly.

This paper pellet throwing and the indoor pyro where I watched made me really angry. Well pyro, booing and throwing things is probably usual in club football, but it's horrible that stuff like that is in the Euros right now aswell. Today they threw paper, tomorrow lighters and plastic wedges, the day after they throw flares and then knives.

It's really sad to me, because those championsships are not just football events they make nations meet and increasingly excessive booing+ throwing stuff makes me pretty sad and angry (especially when it's not even a Germany-Holland derby or similar).
Sorry for wall of text, had to say this.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: CologneSky on 10-06-2012, 01:06:56
I second all you said, Surfbird.

Both the fun and the serious part!

Anyways: Schlaaaaaaaaaaaaand!!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Fuchs on 10-06-2012, 10:06:59
It's all a ruse!

Now the German team is all like 'hah, they couldn't even beat Denmark, this will be a piece of cake!' and then.. BOOM! Huntelaar on front and Robben being a team player! I can dream, let me dream!

And to be honest, I do not care that much who wins but I just LOVE Netherlands-Germany. It is the most iconic match for me  ;D

I also see Zoo still has a deep hate against the Dutch team, still as bad as in 2010?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 10-06-2012, 12:06:25
Well, let's see Spain, if they were suffered humiliation like the Dutch did, I think I can forgive them all  ;D

My pet hate against the Dutch team is specifically targeted at Bert van Marwijk. He supportes every unsportsmanship behavior going on field. I mean, even the explosive Joachim Loew stayed quiet when his player caught diving and being punished.

Surfbird: don't forget Boateng... he saved that deadly shoot from Cristiano Ronaldo and nearly injured himself. I think German team is pretty solid here. Schweinsteiger plays pretty well, Oezil and Khedira plays fine. But the score isn't that great. The team clearly shows that in terms of individual techniques, they are clearly inferior against Portugal, even Pepe can pass through the midfielders using a few moves. But as a team, the Germans are more solid.

And yeah, I agree with those poor fan behavior. That steers away sympathy of many people from your team.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 10-06-2012, 13:06:31
Yea, Boateng did a good job aswell. He was criticized before the game, because he went for party the night before the team went to Ukraine. So he had some obligation to provide. Löw isn't explosive though ^^ He is emotional during the game, but he's usually very calm but never indifferent. The Portugese coach seemed a lot more explosive to me :D

The German team has a really strong squad this year. There are a lot of players who play equally good. I would have set up different players. Podolski is loved and plays good in the National team, did play quite good yesterdy but I honestly think that Schürrle plays better atm with more agility and more stroke towards the goal.

Müller plays decent but not really good. With the alternatives we have for this position he has to play great. Put Reus or Götze there. Reus and Götze are both so skilled players, in most other teams they would play from the start and be key players. I'm sure that there are one or two key positions that make the Germans play worse than usual at the moment. I hope Löw chooses a different first eleven than against Portugal. Just my opinion though, others don't agree. Especially about the Podolski thing. People love him. Especially in Cologne...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Gezoes on 10-06-2012, 14:06:39
If we lose Wednesday, we deserve to go home. But, we have nothing to lose anymore. If that doesn't trigger the lion, nothing will. Win or die trying. Ger - Por was a pretty bad match, the German team isn't what it used to be. Closet boy's team nearly nailed it. With the maverick Danes about, this poule is going to turn nasty.

... beer and bratwurst talking...

Hmm, yes, fascinating, quite. Dumpster eh? That sounds familiar. I suddenly seem out of TP :-*

(http://vorige.nrc.nl/multimedia/dynamic/00126/Koeman_webC_244202a_126372a.jpg)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 10-06-2012, 15:06:25
i have a bad feeling about Ireland today...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Eglaerinion on 10-06-2012, 16:06:06
It's all a ruse!

Now the German team is all like 'hah, they couldn't even beat Denmark, this will be a piece of cake!' and then.. BOOM! Huntelaar on front and Robben being a team player! I can dream, let me dream!

And to be honest, I do not care that much who wins but I just LOVE Netherlands-Germany. It is the most iconic match for me  ;D

I also see Zoo still has a deep hate against the Dutch team, still as bad as in 2010?
Germany was far from impressive. They were lucky with two balls hitting the woodwork and Gomez scoring from a deflected cross. They have nothing to brag about sofar. Definitely going to be interesting wednesday.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 10-06-2012, 17:06:50
100 000 Poles in Warsaw fan zone (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=iv&src_vid=BrBQvJ-anB8&v=EbvzgEU_qA0&annotation_id=annotation_895327)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 10-06-2012, 17:06:18
Robbie Keane, Vedran Corluka, Niko Kranjcar, Luka Modric.

Former and current Tottenham players in tonights clash between Ireland and Croatia!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: SiCaRiO on 10-06-2012, 18:06:23
OH C'MON ITALY, let us score already! I know you want to!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 10-06-2012, 18:06:30
Spain is playing like Barcelona in the previous season - without striker, without any ideas on finishing the action, like they want to get with the ball in the goal...  ::)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: SiCaRiO on 10-06-2012, 19:06:18
thats what happens when the other team has nothing worth the name of football player D:. And that ball keeps scratching the goal  :P
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 10-06-2012, 19:06:24
What a goal from Di Natale!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 10-06-2012, 19:06:48
That is actually a victory for Italy.

It's a surprise that such team could offer quite a resistance against technically superior team. And yes... Torres returns to his usual luck, or perhaps it's just him. He even fail to trick a goal keeper!!! Where is his face now? He loses to Buffon on mano-a-mano, even without involving hand.  :o
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: NTH on 10-06-2012, 20:06:29
Spain may have trouble finishing it off, but man o man did you see the gameplay between players. Tick-tac-tock they are passing it around like a pinball machine. Beautiful to see. And Torres, it seems like he has the football equivalent of a writers block. Was that really the best he could do against Buffon  :(
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 10-06-2012, 20:06:02
I even hoped for Italy to win. Most awesome Buffon. He ran to the right already (from Torres PoV)  when Torres didnt even decide yet what to do and just played the ball away with his feet :D Not many keeper have that balls - but well, I forgot it's Torres, no risk taken ;)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 10-06-2012, 21:06:18
Ah it was a good game.

Italy can do better, Buffon is such a solid GK. Di Natale should have started on the first team, Giovinco too.


This Italy is different from the others, this time i think, Italy would have to rely on individuals.


Couldn't see Argentina - Brasil Live, 4-3, saw the replay hours after the match. Epic game i must say, Messi is the greatest player i ever seen (Well, i was born when Maradona was playing for Boca Juniors in Argentina but.. i didnt really see him, hehe), media can now shut up, Neymar will NEVER be better than Messi. Im starting to recover faith in our national team.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 10-06-2012, 22:06:56
so much for Ireland's chances... hopefully England does well tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Sgt.KAR98 on 11-06-2012, 02:06:06
Damn,Italy draw and Ireland lost.
Torres had a miss very similar to another one that happened at an important match here.
IDK how will be tomorrow.I heard France had reborn from the ashes.If England still have the same goalkeeper from 2010 WC,then,I am sorry for the Queen's team...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Eglaerinion on 11-06-2012, 09:06:16
Spain may have trouble finishing it off, but man o man did you see the gameplay between players. Tick-tac-tock they are passing it around like a pinball machine. Beautiful to see. And Torres, it seems like he has the football equivalent of a writers block. Was that really the best he could do against Buffon  :(
Sorry I do not find it beautiful any more. It has come down to passing for passing sake and no intention to create a chance and score a goal. The ball by Silva was brilliant and resulted in a great goal by Fabregas. Lengthy periods of the game there was almost no intention to score though, but just to pass the ball around. The lack of a target man up front might have something to do with it Some bad defending on the Spanish side gave Italy a few great chances, can't believe they missed them as it's so unlike Italians to waste such chances. Torres missing twice is not surprising in the least but it did show that with a striker you at least get chances to score.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 11-06-2012, 09:06:10
They won by dominating the match, dictating the tempo as they will by possessing the ball, thus the seemingly flurry of short passes without attacking progress. The beauty is the number of connections they make, even difficult passes made it through!

Poor defending wise, Puyol wasn't there. But even with Puyol, Spain's defense is already poor as it is, all of their defenders were part of the passing systems, so when you are on the attacking momentum, the defenders have to come forward to maintain the pressure. But, when the chain breaks there, it is over, if Pique or Ramos can't outrun the attacker, only Casillas is left.

Last time, the Germans weren't able to figure it out and try to face it using their rigid style, the Netherlands got frustrated and played rough instead. But Italy was able to read the game, try to disrupt the harmony, and wait for their chances.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 11-06-2012, 09:06:11
Sweden is taking on host nation Ukraine tonight!

Lets go Zlaaaataaaan!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Battlefieldfan45 (CroPanzer) on 11-06-2012, 10:06:15
Wooohoo, Croatia won, but have you seen the beating the Croatian guys took from the Irish?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Eglaerinion on 11-06-2012, 11:06:17
They won by dominating the match, dictating the tempo as they will by possessing the ball, thus the seemingly flurry of short passes without attacking progress. The beauty is the number of connections they make, even difficult passes made it through!

Poor defending wise, Puyol wasn't there. But even with Puyol, Spain's defense is already poor as it is, all of their defenders were part of the passing systems, so when you are on the attacking momentum, the defenders have to come forward to maintain the pressure. But, when the chain breaks there, it is over, if Pique or Ramos can't outrun the attacker, only Casillas is left.

Last time, the Germans weren't able to figure it out and try to face it using their rigid style, the Netherlands got frustrated and played rough instead. But Italy was able to read the game, try to disrupt the harmony, and wait for their chances.
Won? Anyway they did not dominate the match. They had 60% possesion but Italy had as many shots on goal as Spain. They created barely any chances until Torres came on even with all that possession. Like I said passing to pass the ball around.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Schneider on 11-06-2012, 11:06:50
I think Spain had some more shots in the statistics that I've read, but overall I'd agree with you, it was a pretty open game. I even came to sympathize with Italy, they might make it really far in this tournament.
I'm looking forward to the matches today, Sweden vs. the host is an interesting setup, and England vs. France is just a classic confrontation. My bets would be on France winning/saving a draw, but I might be awfully wrong here, if England brings on a performance like Italy did yesterday.  :)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 11-06-2012, 11:06:44
No, the Spain didn't win the match. For me, it's Italy (as I stated in the previous post), who clearly won the match.

But it was their playing style... they tried to win the game by dominating the match by having the majority of ball possession, so they can control the tempo of the game as they will. When they can't achieve this, they will have a hard time winning.

Italy merely sees the weakness of this style and rushed the ball to tip the balance of the tempo that the Spain created. Most of Italy's scoring chances are from surprise counter attack, and most of the defenders are still caught running back. Cassano managed to find a good position and made the header, but Casillas was ready. Di Natale found a good positioning and made the perfect shot. The second chance (the lob that connects but swerves to the right side) is also as a result of the Spaniards not being ready. Then, another chance which saw the Spaniards flooding the goal line, but an Italian player managed to do an accurate shot which was handled nicely by Casillas. All in all, I didn't say they dominate the match.

Then we can joke all the way about Torres' chances.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Thorondor123 on 11-06-2012, 11:06:07
It was a draw. The only thing that matters is the number of goals.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 11-06-2012, 12:06:56
(https://p.twimg.com/AvDKddbCEAAzq9E.jpg)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 11-06-2012, 12:06:24
And they both played at WBA... what a kawinkydink.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 11-06-2012, 17:06:24
Spain may have trouble finishing it off, but man o man did you see the gameplay between players. Tick-tac-tock they are passing it around like a pinball machine. Beautiful to see. And Torres, it seems like he has the football equivalent of a writers block. Was that really the best he could do against Buffon  :(
Sorry I do not find it beautiful any more. It has come down to passing for passing sake and no intention to create a chance and score a goal. The ball by Silva was brilliant and resulted in a great goal by Fabregas. Lengthy periods of the game there was almost no intention to score though, but just to pass the ball around. The lack of a target man up front might have something to do with it Some bad defending on the Spanish side gave Italy a few great chances, can't believe they missed them as it's so unlike Italians to waste such chances. Torres missing twice is not surprising in the least but it did show that with a striker you at least get chances to score.
I agree, Spain lost it's surprises, like Robben...  ::) Their gameplay wasn't so supergood and indeed lacked a target. This way they will never win.

This is an ideal tournament for an outsider to win. I'll go for Russia.

The sad thing is that our team might have a chance because of what I saw in the first matches of Germany and Spain, and then they start with a loss  :'(

Hoping for a successfull Wednesday match! If both Portugal and Netherlands win, everything is open again in our group.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 11-06-2012, 17:06:25
Dream on ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 11-06-2012, 18:06:03
Lets go, England!

Survivors of the famous Group of Death from the 2002 World Cup in South-Korea/Japan campaign together with Sweden, we can do it once again.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 11-06-2012, 19:06:17
Seriously, just imagine having a few beers and few drinks a late Saturday night. You go out of the pub and looking for a good corner to have a piss and you meet Franck Ribéry.

 Thank God for the time you have had, think of your mother and await the march towards heaven.

That guy just looks like trouble but indeed is one hell of a footballer.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 11-06-2012, 20:06:35
Both teams disappointed me - probably they didn't want to risk too much in the first match...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 11-06-2012, 20:06:29
England was happy with the draw. They lacked the ability to switch from defense to offense fast enough. Everything they did was a bit stolid. Often there was one English player alone vs 3 French players, unable to pass the ball since no teammate was around. England played defensively, but was unable to counter. Tactical fail imo.

France played a nice pressing and England struggled to get close to the French goal when they had the ball. Well, Englands defense was not too bad, but France was able to win the game. They just lacked, just as England, the ability to get into the box and to a good shooting position. They had several distance shots though  that were not bad and the header from Diarra was well held by Hart.

All in all an indeed disappointing game for the viewer. England can be happy with the draw, France can be ok with it, but a 2:1 for them still would have reflected how the game went.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 11-06-2012, 20:06:26
For me English players looked really tired of the season...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 11-06-2012, 22:06:42
Sweden is a really weak team... Only Ibrahimovic is only good player... Sheva is back!!!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 11-06-2012, 22:06:09
YES YES YES YES YES !

So happy for the Ukrainians, awesome ! I loved Shevchenko when I was a kid. Very likeable team, deserved victory. My favourite game of the Euros so far long with Russia vs Czech Republic !
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 11-06-2012, 23:06:53
Yes, we have great matches so far, I haven't counted the average goals scored per match, but it will be high.
To sum up first round, I can only say that it's quite difficult to say 1 clear favourite for the trophy.

Tomorrow, the match with lots of historical meanings - Poland against Russia - here in Poland, when there are such matches (doesn't matter what discipline), there is always electric atmosphere - hope at least for a draw!!!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 12-06-2012, 00:06:26
Yeaaaah! Another surprise from my favourite too, Shevchenko. EPL is so overrated that players like these can't flex their potential. Chelsea sucked.

Czech Republic got owned. It was surprising. I always regard Czech and Sweden a decent team before. But now they got trashed by lower tier team. Not to mention the Dutch. They all got humiliated.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 12-06-2012, 00:06:02
Tomorrow, the match with lots of historical meanings - Poland against Russia - here in Poland, when there are such matches (doesn't matter what discipline), there is always electric atmosphere - hope at least for a draw!!!
Draw would be good for Poland, as I think Russia is better. So my guess is a win for Russia.

I hope people will behave. What I've seen of fans until now can be much improved...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Sgt.KAR98 on 12-06-2012, 00:06:48
I got impressed with France today.They INDEED rose from the ruins.Strange England couldn't hold them enought.

Saw the first half of the game of Ukr x Swe.Ukraine was fast and had a great will to win.Damn,I missed the goals...

Poland x Russia will be fierce.A match like Israel x Palestine.I hope they don't start WWII again...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 12-06-2012, 01:06:09
Well, the game will be interesting. But I hope and don't think there are going to be riots. Stuff like that is quite rare at the big tournaments. Games in club football like Moscow vs Warsaw would probably cause more problems. I don't think Russia is gonna have a too easy game. Their aim is to win for sure, but Poland should aim for the victory too since Czech republic still has good chances of making the second place. But yea, when Polands defense plays like they did vs. Greece, Russia won't have any problems. Poland has the potential of winning the game in the offense though. THe defense will ahve to do extraordinary work. If they do, they can beat Russia.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Schneider on 12-06-2012, 01:06:47
I, on the other hand, was rather unimpressed, not to say a little bit disappointed by the French...
In the friendly against Germany earlier this year, they showed a lot more all-round fine performance. They had a lot of good approaches in this game, but didn't seem to find a way to harmonize their game, and especially didn't seem able to convert their field dominance into clear cut chances.
Of course, if you compare them with their performances two years ago well... But I actually counted them amongst the inner circle of favorites to win the cup, and I'd thought they might make a better start.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 12-06-2012, 09:06:19
A rough Monday for Sweden!

 There are some really good players in Sweden alongside Ibrahimovic but damn, yesterday they really didn't show it and a lot of players didn't handle the pressure at all.

Something happened when Zlatan scored the first goal though, too bad Shevchenko was there so fast and replied with not just one but two goals.

Sweden was up and going until that quick reply.

Ukraine was the better team yesterday no doubt. 
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 12-06-2012, 18:06:35
Imagine being Greek right now in these times...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 12-06-2012, 18:06:00
Imagine being Greek right now in these times...
Wait for 2nd half, Greeks will improve. It looks like they need 30 minutes to get into the game every match.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 12-06-2012, 19:06:14
espn just showed a greek guy in the crowd dressed like a hoplite.  I love the spirit.  anyhoo this game appears to be turning around.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 12-06-2012, 19:06:59
Meanwhile in Warsaw...

(http://i.wp.pl/a/f/jpeg/29135/roszad4.jpeg)

(http://i.wp.pl/a/f/jpeg/29134/roszad1.jpeg)

(http://i.wp.pl/a/f/jpeg/29134/roszad2.jpeg)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 12-06-2012, 20:06:47
espn just showed a greek guy in the crowd dressed like a hoplite.  I love the spirit.  anyhoo this game appears to be turning around.
Yeah, saw the hoplite too, very nice! Game was turning around, Cech made a huge blunder, but Greeks still lost.

@Meanwhile in Warsaw: that's what I was afraid of. I hope the police arrests all hooligans and puts them away for 5-10 years. Dumbasses using violence all the time should be locked up.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Natty on 12-06-2012, 20:06:56
wow you guys saw the THIS IS RUSSIA flag they had? must have covered 1000 people  :o :o
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Smiles on 12-06-2012, 23:06:24
Wish they would just fight eachother  ???
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 13-06-2012, 00:06:25
Damn, we could even won this if we only risked more... On the other hand this could end with loosing a goal... So, I must be happy with this draw. Now we have to "only" win over Czech and we are in the quarter finals without looking at the score Greece - Russia. Hmm... If Greece  wins over Russia wll not get through... Of course in the second match there can't be a draw... It will be interesting!!! Every team has chances to get into the quarter finals.

Wow, this Russian flag was astonishing...  8O I don't know if it's allowed, but I'm quite disappointed that we didn't prepare such flag... Probably because ultras boycott this EURO... Pity... Also, the cheering is not so powerful as it used to be on the stadiums...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 13-06-2012, 00:06:32
It was a nice game, first half Russia was a bit better, second half Poland was better. If they would ghave pressed on a bit, and were a bit more concentrated (less sloppy passing), they might have won. Very nice goal by Blaszczykowski!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kubador on 13-06-2012, 01:06:21
I was in the 'fun zone' today and boy it was loud. Still had great time and I'm happy from the result. It's waaay different than with greece. We had a lead at the ending of the match and I wish we could pressed a bit more there. I'm proud that our players fought so fircely.

There seems to bee a pattern in Polish play. Very aggressive 20-30 first minutes and then a big collapse and sloppyness. 
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: jan_kurator on 13-06-2012, 02:06:20
@Meanwhile in Warsaw: that's what I was afraid of. I hope the police arrests all hooligans and puts them away for 5-10 years. Dumbasses using violence all the time should be locked up.
About 140 people were arrested both the Polish "fans" as well as Russians. 11 people were injured.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Sgt.KAR98 on 13-06-2012, 03:06:25
Didn't saw the whole match.Just the first half.That flag was EPIC.Bigger than some of the ones raised here.I really wonder how they pack and unfold that flag so easily...
I heard on TV some russians were hugging polish policemen at the stadium.

Dressed as a hoplite???Haha,I remember an italian dressed as a legionary at 2010 WC.There were some leprechaums at Ireland,knights at England and some vikings at a match I can't remember.That's the best part of the matches in Europe.The supporters go for them with their national costumes.Never saw anything like here.

BTW,how are the things going at Poland?Is most of the population taking day off to see the matches?Are the tickets expensive?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Natty on 13-06-2012, 08:06:22
Let's hope russia beats greece and poland beats Czech on saturday! would be fun to see both teams advance

the teams that should not advance: italy, spain, portugal, germany  >:(

the teams I want in the semi: holland, england, russia, poland

the team that should win: ENGLAND!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 13-06-2012, 08:06:47
Team that should not advance: Netherland, Portugal, Spain, Italy.

Although I love Italy that much... but I don't want to see their rude play style. Spain: some people say boring, I kinda agree. Portugal: nobody likes Portugal. NED: my own pet hate... I'm a hater, unless they managed to defeat German tonight, which I am wishing so much.

Team that I really want to see advancing: Denmark, Poland, Russia, Ukraine. We need new champions badly!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Gezoes on 13-06-2012, 10:06:21
Hang on. Now you want Germany to lose? And NL is ok again, but only if we win?

/Cough... couch... anyway the wind blows.. /cough...  :D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Natty on 13-06-2012, 11:06:56
Who's hyped over the HOL-GER game tonight then?  :o

Let's hope Holland defends better than in 1940 trolololo

portugal - denmark *yaaawnzzZZZZzzz*.....



Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 13-06-2012, 11:06:22
Their defense line is still the weakest link.

Yeah, the wind blows, but might not be the wind of change. The girl that I love turns out to be an orange fans... so... yeah.

Germans in the other hand, needs a slap in their ass to be awesome again, they are not loveable at this pace. So who wins tonight, I'll support  ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 13-06-2012, 11:06:44
Big game is coming closer. So exciting in many ways. Anyway, the key is to control NL's flanks and offense:

Left flank: Boateng vs Affelay: Boateng controlled Ronaldo, so some tryhard should not be a problem. Affelay is good, Boateng is going to control him very well though.

Right flank: Lahm vs Robben: Lahm knows Robben and you don't have to be a genius to know what Robben is going to do anyway.

Center: Van Persie or Huntelaar vs Hummels/Badstuber. There we might have the problem. Both play good, but not errorless. Huntelaar and Persie are both skilled strikers and when there come a lot of good passes from Snejder they might not always be 100% attentive.

Key player Snejder: Probably Khedira is going to take care of him, I dunno. Don't allow him to have too much room. That will most likely fail though.

Going to be very interesting. I assume Germany wins with 3:1. Optimistic, but NL's defense is weak and they have to play offensive. I also think that the German team is a lot stronger in the air than the Dutch team and that we got the stronger keeper. Well, anything is possible in this game. A win for NL would not even surprise me, but in the end I don't think that i's going to happen. NL won't be too happy with a draw, because of Portugal coming up.

Anyway, gonna be awesome !

Edit: Zoologic, shame on you !
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: DLFReporter on 13-06-2012, 11:06:42
Ve all know how zis is gonna end.  ;D
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/c78.0.403.403/p403x403/603134_223232974463383_1056339276_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: sheikyerbouti on 13-06-2012, 12:06:01
 It ends with 2 grown men crying like babies after getting a tap on the shins. (until they get some snoopy band-aids and a shot of cold spray, while succesfully wasting time and making me wish that referee's actually Red-carded them for pansy conduct and delaying the game)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: th_battleaxe on 13-06-2012, 12:06:39
I give the jerries a serious chance of winning tonight. The dutch are way too preoccupied with the problems in their own house so I think we'll see a lot of uncoordinated attempts from the orange side and a BLITZKRIEG from ze Germans.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Fuchs on 13-06-2012, 15:06:23
We will probably lose but I will love the match, Netherlands-Germany is the best match to watch in football  :)

Though 3-1, someone got some nationalism issues. They got 1-0 against Portugal man, get real. At the moment both teams are not playing like they should.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 13-06-2012, 15:06:37
Just got back home from a nice 5 day break in Amsterdam.

Could someone please explain to me the whole Dutch - German thing?

Watching the Netherlands - Denmark game in a local pub and there was a sea of orange "F*CK GERMANY" t-shirts on show.

I never really thought of the two countries having this kind of hate towards each other.

Either way I'm gutted I'm not back there for tonight's game, the atmosphere should be intense!

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Fuchs on 13-06-2012, 15:06:51
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany–Netherlands_football_rivalry

Google can get you to many places, stranger.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 13-06-2012, 15:06:44
You just up a wiki link to Germany.  Now how will I ever know about their rivalry?!?!?!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: th_battleaxe on 13-06-2012, 15:06:17
The rivalry probably has its roots in "You Germans rolled over our country in 4 days and you made a f****** mess afterwards!! KLERELIJERS!*"

*Disclaimer: the Belgian-Dutch Joke Comittee is not responsible for any of its opinions
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Fuchs on 13-06-2012, 15:06:56
By fixing the link! CPS got demoted to level 0 on the internet.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 13-06-2012, 16:06:27
We will probably lose but I will love the match, Netherlands-Germany is the best match to watch in football  :)

Though 3-1, someone got some nationalism issues. They got 1-0 against Portugal man, get real. At the moment both teams are not playing like they should.

Nah. I said it's optimistic, thats my bet in our little league we have. No risk, no victory ;) I don't really expect that to happen, but it might happen. Germany played weak in first game no doubt, but it's all gonna change against you, I hope :P
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 13-06-2012, 16:06:35
Some rivalry are strange indeed. Some of the derby, eventhough generated enough heat, they are not that spectacular in actuality. Like Liverpool and Everton for example, the other is champion, the other is average achiever. Then there are Inter Milan and AC Milan, a great match.

Netherlands national team, IMHO, is always an upper class team in my book. In any football video game, I expect to see their statistic meter bars to be full, just like other World Cup champions. The same goes to Spain, England, France, Argentina and other under-achiever, good-performer.

Netherlands, despite never getting any world cup trophy and winning the Euro once (1988), are equal (or better) to Germany at its current state. I'm not speaking on behalf of the girl, but this is my own view. Huntelaar, Heitinga, Afellay, Sneijder, van der Vaart, Robben should be at their peak now. For them, it is now or never, in World cup 2014, most of them will be 30 (including van Persie), which could already exceeding the top of their peak performance. Germany on the other hand, is still young, they haven't fully flexed their ability yet. They could very well be the champion this time, but nobody knows.

Why such under-achieving team be compared to such well-decorated team like Germany? Because we compare it by the way they played and how they handle other teams. But why Germans better their equals? Mostly, it's because their mentality. The Germans, are not like the Argentine, nor French... they have the mentality IMO. The way I see it, they never took defeat in melodramatic tone, weeping profusely, crying for hope, and their fans has been pragmatic at best. These guys are machines with super computer working behind them, producing champions technically. The Netherlands on the other hand, couldn't just give enough fuck to be there.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 13-06-2012, 18:06:20
Who's hyped over the HOL-GER game tonight then?  :o

Let's hope Holland defends better than in 1940 trolololo

portugal - denmark *yaaawnzzZZZZzzz*.....
yawn?... pretty exciting actually
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 13-06-2012, 19:06:19
Holland-Denmark is the only game I've missed so far, happy I get to see denmark today.
They are really good. Doing a much better job at keeping possession-play than sweden, and the 1-2 goal, what a beauty!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Natty on 13-06-2012, 19:06:11
Im betting 2-1 to Holland! Im gonna be sooo rich!  ;D  ;D

@Ted: sweden sucks, lol.   :-\ we lose 2-1 against England on friday.. maybe even 2-0
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 13-06-2012, 19:06:24
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany–Netherlands_football_rivalry

Google can get you to many places, stranger.

Thanks for that but I was looking for a more personal insight from the Dutch and Krauts that inhabit these forums - of which they have duly obliged!

As for the actual match I'm going for a 1 - 0 German victory.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 13-06-2012, 20:06:30
Thanks for that but I was looking for a more personal insight from the Dutch and Krauts that inhabit these forums - of which they have duly obliged!
When I was a young boy, the Dutch beat the Germans in the semi-final in 1988. That is my youth memory, and I remember the sentiments against players like Völler and Matthäus. The rivalry continued into the 90s, where we lost on the WC and won on the EC.

Later on, the rivalry was less bitter, I guess because of the Dutch team getting better and losing it's Calimero complex. Also because of history fading away I guess. In those times I regularly watched games between NL and Germany with Germans. Sometimes I knew them sometimes I didn't. From then on the rivalry was playful, joking about each other etc.

In 2010 many Dutch were hoping for a final vs Germany to beat them and win the cup. It wasn't meant to be.

Tonight there is another chance! Portugal won, so if we win the group is open again! Go Holland! (Off to the TV now)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 13-06-2012, 20:06:50
Go on Germany!!! I hope Podolski will score the goal!!!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Fuchs on 13-06-2012, 21:06:07
Now just one goal for the Netherlands and I have won my bet. But at this rate it will be 4-0 for Germany.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 13-06-2012, 21:06:04
(http://futirinhas.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/super-mario-bayern.jpg)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Natty on 13-06-2012, 21:06:28
omg what tragedy the first half............... looks like the end is here for Holland.  :-[

btw, anyone know in what secret laboratory they drilled dehr ubermensch Gomez? insane skillz....

Still have some hopes for a comeback in 2nd  8)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 13-06-2012, 22:06:34
Congrats Germany, you have a striker in your team who knows how to score goals. Our comeback came way too late.

I'm sure we're out of the tournament right now, as we have to win 3-0 to Portugal on Sunday. I bet that won't happen.

Good thing Van Bommel was put out 2nd half: it is astonishing how bad he is playing. Worst tournament from Holland ever.

Time for change, some fresh blood for 2014. Go Holland in 2014!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: CologneSky on 13-06-2012, 23:06:29
Schlaaaaaaaand!!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 13-06-2012, 23:06:04
I enjoyed the way Robben stormed off the pitch.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 14-06-2012, 00:06:56
Haha, back to the dumpster Holland !

SIEG !
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Fuchs on 14-06-2012, 02:06:22
Haha, back to the dumpster Holland !

SIEG !
Just add that one other word, come on, do it!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Sgt.KAR98 on 14-06-2012, 03:06:58
Was I the only one that watched Portugal x Danmark?
Denmark played very well,they were really eager to win.Cristiano Ronaldo was a joke today.
Who will play tomorrow?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 14-06-2012, 04:06:20
Finally, goals are coming in. I was afraid that this tournament will. As dull as that WC2010.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: th_battleaxe on 14-06-2012, 07:06:17
Haha, back to the dumpster Holland !

SIEG !
Just add that one other word, come on, do it!
on a similar note, heard a truly genius comment on the match. It stated that the last time Holland defended so badly, it lost the country for 5 years.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 14-06-2012, 08:06:08
Yea that portugal-denmark match was the best of the tournament so far. And ronaldo missing the two pure goal scoring chances was to die for. Sad denmark lost int he end, but what a game. Also.. Love holland and germany, but germany deserved it. Gomes is seriously an übermensch
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Natty on 14-06-2012, 08:06:43
I enjoyed the way Robben stormed off the pitch.

I felt sorry for him.... he never came in to action truly in the game, and he had quite a bad season in CL...

There is a tiiiiiiiiiiiiiny glimpse of hope, we can end up with a situation where germany is clear for quarters, and then have three teams with 3 points each. GOALS will make the difference! so if Holland beats the cry-babies of Portugal with 2 goals or more, they can still make it to the quarters! GO HOLLAND!

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 14-06-2012, 09:06:51
And now some news from the world of club football!

Harry Redknapp has ended his career at Tottenham Hotspurs FC.

One year left on the contract and no sign of extending it with Chairman Daniel Levy and also talks regarding Levy and Redknapp not getting along well any more.

Rumours has been going on for a few weeks that he would leave but now it's out. Rumours indicate that Harry is heading for Middle-East/Asia for quite a big amount of money to coach some unknown team.

EDIT

1) Di Matteo offered a 2 year contract as a manager for Chelsea
2) Everton's Moyes and Wigan's Martinez tops the wanted list for Tottenham now
3) According to THFC Redknapp was shown the exit due to 'only coming 4th'
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 14-06-2012, 11:06:52
Haha, back to the dumpster Holland !

SIEG !
Just add that one other word, come on, do it!

You foreigners see the Nazi everywhere. Sieg = victory. But I see, nationalism was huge in me yesterday and it kinda fits ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Ts4EVER on 14-06-2012, 11:06:20
Oh how sweet it is to see the Dutch fail  ;D

(http://www.apload.de/images-i181610b4e2rk.jpg)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 14-06-2012, 13:06:52
Oh how sweet it is to see the Dutch fail  ;D

Yeah, kinda like nail in the coffin. My reconciliation come too late. But I am happy nevertheless.  ;D

Under the sea but ego as high as mountain. la-la-la

My apology guys, at least you Dutchies are not 2002-2006 England national team.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 14-06-2012, 13:06:53
And now some news from the world of club football!

Harry Redknapp has ended his career at Tottenham Hotspurs FC.

One year left on the contract and no sign of extending it with Chairman Daniel Levy and also talks regarding Levy and Redknapp not getting along well any more.

Rumours has been going on for a few weeks that he would leave but now it's out. Rumours indicate that Harry is heading for Middle-East/Asia for quite a big amount of money to coach some unknown team.

EDIT

1) Di Matteo offered a 2 year contract as a manager for Chelsea
2) Everton's Moyes and Wigan's Martinez tops the wanted list for Tottenham now
3) According to THFC Redknapp was shown the exit due to 'only coming 4th'

I thought he was given the boot for NOT finishing fourth (despite it not being in his control i.e Chelsea winning the Champions League). Probably it's for the final few months of the season as Spurs form went way off the radar. You have the English FA to thank for that though....

Either way it's a joke for Spurs. If they get in Moyes it will be a disaster. The man thrives on mediocrity and being the underdog.

Give him the budget and expectations of Tottenham and watch as his tactical naivety is shown over and over again. 10 years without a trophy at Everton says it all really.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 14-06-2012, 13:06:01
My apology guys, at least you Dutchies are not 2002-2006 England national team.
Except that Sven-Göran Eriksson did a better job with the England national team than any of the following coaches so far.


On Redknapp being fired: There really wasn't much option. He would have been given a 4-year contract this winter, if the job as coach for the national team wouldn't have come up. He was quite clearly saying that he wanted that job, and when he didn't get it; Levy had already started planning for the future. And you can't have a manager who doesn't want to coach your team (just look at tottenhams statistics before and after the day Capello resigned)

Edit: And Chadoi, you're being very very unfair talking about Moyes like that. He has done a tremendeous job at Everton with all the limited funds. And while 5-7 big clubs are getting all the more dominant, it's really not fair saying "10 years without a trophy at everton says it all"
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 14-06-2012, 14:06:12
Really interesting things happening now regarding Tottenham and their new manager

Redknapp keeps saying that this decision from the club would have been made either way even if Spurs had reached Champions League and that the board want to take the club in a new direction with a new manager.

What direction do you want to go if Moyes and Martinez are the new top names?

Strange. I pray to the Gods that AVB will get a chance.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: DLFReporter on 14-06-2012, 14:06:24
Another great pic going around the interwebs. I think it's pure gold, not because of the Ger vs Ned thingy, but because the photographer did an awesome joy capturing the moment! :)

(http://i.imgur.com/FewK0.jpg)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 14-06-2012, 15:06:30
Haha, I was just about to post this too :) Really great picture !
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 14-06-2012, 15:06:16
Capshun:
Wat de hell was jij all doen?
Wie dis moffen trol smileeng? Was he laughing at uns misery?
 
*Smirk* LOWLanders! Lawl!

This kind of match is always cute. Like a quarrel between couples.

Yes Svennis was alright. It's just the England team.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 14-06-2012, 15:06:31
Capshun:
Wat de hell was jij all doen?
Wie dis moffen trol smileeng? Was he laughing at uns misery?
 

you know I never realized that I could read in Dutch fluently.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Gezoes on 14-06-2012, 16:06:42
Can't read it, but I like moffentrol though.

As soon as I saw the line-up, it was over. Germany did well. I actually hope closet boy's team will beat us too. Don't really care who wins it, I hope Russia, as long as it isn't Spain or Krautland.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 14-06-2012, 16:06:19
(http://www.euronews.com/images_news/img_606X341_1306-euro-portugal-denmark-pepe.jpg)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Thorondor123 on 14-06-2012, 16:06:12
A rare picture of him not falling over.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: th_battleaxe on 14-06-2012, 16:06:27
Capshun:
Wat in godsnaam was jij aan het doen?
Waarom is die kleremof aan het lachen? Lacht-ie met onze pech?
 

you know I never realized that I could read in Dutch fluently.
try this.

Also: Flemish version:

Wa waarde gij aant doen joeng?
Waaroem is diene kloetendeuts mè ons aant lache? Lachtem mè ons miserie of wa?

Edit: just translation, no opinion.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Natty on 14-06-2012, 17:06:17
DO NOT APPROVE!
(https://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTZTtzbmpoEai8enO3mwwN-oPaW255K0PzZ9hTNyM9wthxrM9Iw)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Fuchs on 14-06-2012, 18:06:07
It was a great match to watch, there's some sore losers here in the neighbourhood. Screw them, I loved that match. No Germany-Netherlands match ends without goals. Never, ever, and this time it was shown again. Every side always scores.

I knew we weren't going to make it, overconfident bunch of wieners. Now onto Portugal, maybe we can make it to the next round at least  ;D

Haha, back to the dumpster Holland !

SIEG !
Just add that one other word, come on, do it!

You foreigners see the Nazi everywhere. Sieg = victory. But I see, nationalism was huge in me yesterday and it kinda fits ;D
I know my German, don't worry. Victory and good health is just very offensive in German  ;D

And I also can't read Zoo's stuff, looks like raped Afrikaans  :P
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 14-06-2012, 18:06:14
what the hell = wat de hell  I assume.

hahaha what a silly language
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 14-06-2012, 18:06:10
No, it should be like th_battleaxe's version.

Mine is just a mixed bag between English, Dutch, and some German with standard English grammar. Dutch phrases I used are adopted from everyday Indonesian language that uses borrow misused Dutch terms like Zuur Kool.

Anyway, Mat Hummels is making trollface alright, you can see the Dutchies being successfully trolled.

For tonight, GO ITALY!!! Yay! I actually kinda wanted Croatia to win, but I still want Italy to breakthrough the next round.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: th_battleaxe on 14-06-2012, 18:06:56
No, it should be like th_battleaxe's version.


Endorsement of Flemish as standard Dutch...

You guys are improving...

Also: No euro football tournament is complete without Italy so I do hope they can win
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 14-06-2012, 19:06:27
Croats playing like dead turd today...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 14-06-2012, 19:06:44
No, it should be like th_battleaxe's version.


Endorsement of Flemish as standard Dutch...

You guys are improving...

Also: No euro football tournament is complete without Italy so I do hope they can win

You corrected me when you quoted my post:

Capshun:
Wat in godsnaam was jij aan het doen?
Waarom is die kleremof aan het lachen? Lacht-ie met onze pech?

And at this time, Italy is still being held hostage by Croatia at 1-1, with Italy repeatedly failing to take their chances.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 14-06-2012, 20:06:21
let's go Ireland!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Schneider on 14-06-2012, 21:06:11
Too bad Ireland, that goal against you came too early.
And about yesterdays game: (http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/180221_409221812454314_599033249_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 14-06-2012, 21:06:32
Quote
Edit: And Chadoi, you're being very very unfair talking about Moyes like that. He has done a tremendeous job at Everton with all the limited funds. And while 5-7 big clubs are getting all the more dominant, it's really not fair saying "10 years without a trophy at everton says it all"

Ted, I don't think it is unfair at all. Every crucial game, be it in Europe, FA or Carling Cup his 1v1 tactical knowledge has been lacking. His XI never seem to have a specific game plan, just the same basic tactics which may work at home in the Premier League but will be quickly found out in Europe.

Compare this to Harry Redknapp who won the FA Cup with Portsmouth before taking Tottenham from the position they were in with Ramos to competing for the Champions League spot each season. Yet Spurs are demanding even more.

Moyes is under absolutely no pressure at Everton and he revels in it. A defeat? "We were the underdogs". A victory? "We're a big club". It's laughable that people continue to laud his 'achievements' at Everton, his mentality has turned them from what was a feared club in the 90s to one which is content with midtable irrelevance. Spurs are a class above anything Moyes can offer them.

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Fuchs on 14-06-2012, 22:06:47
Haha, Heidi.. Although in my opinion it was more like 'Which nation never scores?' 'Persia'.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 14-06-2012, 22:06:30
i am literally about to commit hari kari i am so humiliated by Ireland's team right now.

good show to Spain
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Natty on 14-06-2012, 22:06:57
what a horrible horrible game................. seriously, who's up against SPA next? hope they make tapas out of them  :P They simply have to go
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 14-06-2012, 22:06:54
Pity, that Ireland has to say goodbye so early - Irish fans were so great, players fought so fiercely, but they didn't have enough skills for such opponents - really tough group for them....

And Torres is BACK!!!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 15-06-2012, 01:06:08
Pfft, this is not the Italy we all know.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 15-06-2012, 03:06:38
OK, Spain was better then Ireland.

But still, come on. Two out of those four goals were just pure luck!

How the hell can you take a shot and it goes through three defenders and a goalkeeper?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: VonMudra on 15-06-2012, 03:06:33
Go Poland.  ;D

There, that is the degree of my interest in football :3
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kubador on 15-06-2012, 12:06:48
OK, Spain was better then Ireland.

But still, come on. Two out of those four goals were just pure luck!

How the hell can you take a shot and it goes through three defenders and a goalkeeper?

It was sad and laughable at the same time to look at those 3. I mean, not even one of them tried to press Silva away. Instead they all looked terrified of him. The Irish fought well and didn't give up at least - and that's worth to cheer up for.

Go Poland.  ;D

There, that is the degree of my interest in football :3

+1 for not saying 'soccer'.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 15-06-2012, 12:06:13
I raise my hat to the Irish

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPSyuwub6zg
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Schneider on 15-06-2012, 13:06:25
Yeah, they should get to the quarter finals just for having awesome fans. I would instantly buy an Ireland jersey if they were less expensive - like those miraculously low-priced china-hand-made jerseys they sell in Italy.  :P

Won't be able to see Ukraine-France, but I'm wondering what to expect of England-Sweden. That might be a tight match, especially if England doesn't step on the gas pedal, compared with their last performances.
(Picture loosely related)

(http://img.pr0gramm.com/2012/06/exedv.jpg)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Capten_C on 15-06-2012, 13:06:56
Michael Laudrup named new Swansea City manager (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18325287)  Interesting... :D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 15-06-2012, 14:06:36
Michael Laudrup named new Swansea City manager (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18325287)  Interesting... :D
Indeed quite an interesting choice of Manager!

 Anyhow, AVB has confirmed interests in taking over Redknapps position as Manager for Tottenham.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Natty on 15-06-2012, 14:06:37
So what you reckon for the ENG vs SWE team?

2-1 for ENG?  ;D

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 15-06-2012, 14:06:24
Tonight in my apartment

At least 15 guys hanging out, waiting for the clock to become 20.45 and then it's a classic!

Sweden vs England

(http://media.shootitlive.com/aftonbladet%2F624/5k7eRhxoOR7dIMG4aZHOxyC6Zbf_600.jpg)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 15-06-2012, 14:06:09
Regarding the game itself...

Sweden did one hell of a gamble when they played Ukraine. England won't get that chance this time.

In comes Jonas Olsson (WBA) and also Johan Elmander with Anders Svensson from start.

I'm really afraid of England still, Hodgson is almost considered a Swedish citizen and I think that can really help him playing against Hamréns team. And then we have Carroll...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 15-06-2012, 16:06:21
OK, Spain was better then Ireland.

But still, come on. Two out of those four goals were just pure luck!

How the hell can you take a shot and it goes through three defenders and a goalkeeper?
Yes, I'm not impressed by Spain either. And I'm sorry to see Iniesta still has the falling disease: when a player points his finger at him, he falls down screaming. I understand why people dislike Robben because of his diving, but I advise those people to take a look at Iniesta for a while. Fortunately Xavi has been healed from this terrible disease.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 15-06-2012, 16:06:28
Regarding the game itself...

Sweden did one hell of a gamble when they played Ukraine. England won't get that chance this time.

In comes Jonas Olsson (WBA) and also Johan Elmander with Anders Svensson from start.

I'm really afraid of England still, Hodgson is almost considered a Swedish citizen and I think that can really help him playing against Hamréns team. And then we have Carroll...
But then again, I think Jonas Olsson will be a huge difference. Had an amazing season in WBA, blocked the most shots, he's tall and is great in the air (disregarding his own-goal against croatia). I do remember how he completely eliminated Andy Carroll from the WBA-Liverpool game. Plus, he has played under Roy Hodgson, so he knows him as well.
Plust, the more defensive Granqvist takes the right-back spot.

I hate it, but I'm feeling more and more confident.
I always love facing England!
Putting down several bets for tonight.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: VonMudra on 15-06-2012, 16:06:01
Go Poland.  ;D

There, that is the degree of my interest in football :3

+1 for not saying 'soccer'.

Wewt :3
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 15-06-2012, 18:06:49
Gosh, France vs Ukraine suspended due to the weather.

That was some amount of rain and thunder!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 15-06-2012, 19:06:26
Same here, heavy tropical rain that sometimes scares the expats.

Yes, I'm not impressed by Spain either. And I'm sorry to see Iniesta still has the falling disease: when a player points his finger at him, he falls down screaming. I understand why people dislike Robben because of his diving, but I advise those people to take a look at Iniesta for a while. Fortunately Xavi has been healed from this terrible disease.

Yeah, Robben...de Jong, van Bommel, etc and the coach. Dutch and Spain are the same, previously the Spaniards have a long-reigning Dutch King, which makes them world superpower right?

Anyway, yeah, I love Irish fans. They together with Tartan Army are hillarious!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Fuchs on 15-06-2012, 20:06:38
Hilarious? I had so much respect for Irish fans. I wish Dutch fans where like that. Just watch the ending from the Spain-Ireland match, they started to sing and dominated that entire arena.

http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/2179461/f3af738b/de_ieren_werden_afgemaakt_door_de_spanjolen.html

Best thing I have ever seen in a football match.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 15-06-2012, 20:06:22
Yea, that's true fan mentality. Not pyrotechnics and riots. Time for  people to understand that. Wish we had that mentality here as well, but being enthusiastic is often just connected with success, which is sad ! Every football fan sould follow Irelands example.

I'm sad Ukraine just lost. I'd like them in the quarterfinals, but they really did not play too well today.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 15-06-2012, 20:06:13
Yeah, hilarious in a good way.

They are true hobbyist fans. Every game their team play is like a blessing to them, winning or losing doesn't matter for them. They just enjoy being together and share the moment with others. They could have made fun of themselves and still okay about it. In fact, they have been like that since 20 years ago...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=4i1_wuJzNRo#t=298s

I wish our football fans were like that too. Football would have been much better if many fans just take the game like them. I mean, cluelessly singing about winning 5-0 against technically superior team or about "winning the worldcup" that's classy, but you can't just disagree. That should be the spirit.

And then... Dutch fans are still much better than you thought, if you know that there are something like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zmp7WWkBD4M&feature=relmfu
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 15-06-2012, 21:06:48
frenchmen dressed as Asterix and Obelix haha.  all of the fans I have seen so far have shown great support for their teams.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Schneider on 15-06-2012, 21:06:33
Too bad Sweden, I just felt they were coming into the game and starting to even dominate the field a bit, but then that well-hit header. I hope they come back in the second half, or at least for a single magic action by Ibrahimovic.

Edit: HA! ;)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Smiles on 15-06-2012, 22:06:21
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbWp5Pw25aE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbWp5Pw25aE)

Poor woman :p. 1:28  ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Thorondor123 on 15-06-2012, 22:06:13
What a match. Go England!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 15-06-2012, 22:06:05
Damnit -.-
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 15-06-2012, 23:06:19
England didn't suck for once, but i feel bad for sweden :-\
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Thorondor123 on 15-06-2012, 23:06:25
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCx5bx-qtJQ ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Fuchs on 15-06-2012, 23:06:54
At least one part of that group of islanders who hate each other can go through. Shame, I expected Sweden to be one of the surprising teams this year.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 16-06-2012, 00:06:09
I can't agree with Moose, England wasn't good at all. They didn't deserve a tie even.

I want do describe Swedens play as unacceptable, but we played really well. Zlatan was no good though, and defensively we are completely clueless (at least our coach is).
It's the ukraine-game that was completely unacceptable.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Sgt.KAR98 on 16-06-2012, 01:06:25
Too bad Ukraine lost.They were really playing well.Now I know why Shevchenko was so famous.
I saw the Asterix,btw,hehe.

Sweden was really giving a bad time to England and I strongly believed they wouldn't be able to score or win.I was even supporting them.

Ah,BTW,I really liked Mellberg,aka Obi Wan Kenobi.He plays very well.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 16-06-2012, 06:06:04
Eh England was better than normal, walcott was doing well and sweden could not land their shots
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 16-06-2012, 06:06:41
Thanks to some fucking TV Rights i cant watch this Euro.

All i know is that Juve signed Isla and K. Asamoah.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 16-06-2012, 07:06:14
Yes, England is doing better than usual.

At least Andrew Carroll performs, Theo Walcott supports, and else. Overall, it was a pretty average match. Nothing special, but kind of expected.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 16-06-2012, 12:06:16
Some promo videos for todays match:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jircqVacNog&feature=related"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqVeraZl_fA&feature=related

Not sure if these videos will be available all the time because jews from Polish television are removing them....

And expect to see huge Polish flag during national anthem! I hope that seasonal fans won't fuck it...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Thorondor123 on 16-06-2012, 12:06:07
I expect you to tone down your anti-semitism... Apparently I have to warn you in public since the PM by an other moderator concerning the previous incident didn't work.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 16-06-2012, 12:06:25
Wow Kwiot...really?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 16-06-2012, 13:06:11
To come back to football, I hope Poland makes it. Won't be easy though. I think Poland and Czech Republic are quite even teams. Both have potential but usually don't play at their best over the whole 90 minutes.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 16-06-2012, 13:06:05
GTFO of football thread Kwiot, we don't take kindly to your kind here.


Sweden huge disappointment. Had hoped we would still have something to play for in the last game against france, now I'll just watch it to enjoy france's beautiful football.
This nights games will be exciting, the final stages are upon us.

Guests are coming over, friends to the family who are greek. Watching Greece-Russia with them will be fun to say the least. I'm thinking of putting down a big bet on Russia just becasue of that.
I do hope Poland shapes up and comes second in the group, they got some great players and I still remember the first 20 minutes in the first game against greece; amazing.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 16-06-2012, 14:06:47
Football, sometimes you make me mad.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 16-06-2012, 14:06:11
Yes, I'm not impressed by Spain either. And I'm sorry to see Iniesta still has the falling disease: when a player points his finger at him, he falls down screaming. I understand why people dislike Robben because of his diving, but I advise those people to take a look at Iniesta for a while. Fortunately Xavi has been healed from this terrible disease.

Yeah, Robben...de Jong, van Bommel, etc and the coach. Dutch and Spain are the same, previously the Spaniards have a long-reigning Dutch King, which makes them world superpower right?
Again, we seem to miscommunicate.

I was talking about diving. Robben is our diver, although he hasn't done it this EC yet. Xavi hasn' done it either, so they both seem to be cured from the "falling disease". However, Iniesta still did the diving and I'm disappointed about that, because I think he doesn't need that. That's what my post is about.

Then you start about other players who aren't divers, and our coach? WTH? Ever seen a coach diving?

Then you continue by mixing up history. Spaniards having a Dutch king, hilarious  ;D Get your story straight, bro ;)

Also, LOL @ Ukraininan reporter (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ib-slThFrEI) That's some fans too, eh?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Fuchs on 16-06-2012, 15:06:10
Maybe van Marwijk likes to swim.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 16-06-2012, 15:06:41
No, van Bommel and de Jong is rough players... they equally dirty with frequent divers. Spain may have divers like Iniesta, but Dutch team's reputation exceeds it. Remember the Battle of Nuremberg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Nuremberg_%28association_football%29)?

But anyway, it is good that the Dutch didn't do anything rough or dirty yet... perhaps that explains their poor performance  ;D

Anyway, regarding Spain's (Holy Roman Empire) king: Karel V (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_V,_Holy_Roman_Emperor).
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Fuchs on 16-06-2012, 16:06:12
Then he is Belgian.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 16-06-2012, 20:06:51
No, van Bommel and de Jong is rough players... they equally dirty with frequent divers. Spain may have divers like Iniesta, but Dutch team's reputation exceeds it. Remember the Battle of Nuremberg?
Rough players =/= divers. I despise divers, they try to cheat. Rough players can be good players, sometimes a game calls for some rough action. Also, football is a "contactsport", so whiners, please leave.

The Battle of Nuremberg was a very negative exception of the usual Dutch footballplay. I'm sorry you can't distinguish an exception from the rest of the play.

And about exceeding reputation: for you maybe.

Anyway, regarding Spain's (Holy Roman Empire) king: Karel V.
Yes, that's what I meant by mixing it up. The Netherlands were part of the Spanish empire, not the other way around. The fact that Karel V was born in Gent doesn't make any difference. Maybe read a bit further, you might find out about the Dutch revolt, where the Netherlands revolted against Spanish rule. Now how could that happen if Spain was part of the Netherlands?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Smiles on 16-06-2012, 22:06:23
I expect more violence in the games. Fuck respect, fuck sportmansship. Morrreeeeee violence!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 16-06-2012, 23:06:51
Who would have thought Russia does not make it ?! Awesome ! Ifeel very happy for Greece and changed my opinion about Poland a little.Poland did just not deserve it. Greece fought for the quarterfinals, Poland again did it only 30 minutes long. They probably tried but lacked the skill in the end when the Czechs started to play offensively instead of keeping the 0:0 like in the first half.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: FH fan on 16-06-2012, 23:06:22
Oh. my.
And somebody said we could win Euro after big victory over Czechs.
There's very popular video in Russia now where Azerbaijanis sing brain exploding song: "Who are you? Come on, goodbye!"... It's prophetic
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 17-06-2012, 00:06:34
KURWA, fucking bunch of loosers with stupidest coach in the history of the world...  ::) For me, like for most of the Poles, Euro has already ended... I'm out...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 17-06-2012, 00:06:29
Of course there were already some surprises in scores, but these are some real surprises concerning the quarter finals.

Sorry to see Russia go, they played attractive football for 1,5 match. Sorry to see Poland go, they should have gone through in their homeland.

But: Russia, was nervous somehow, and gave away a goal to the Greeks and to the Poles in the previous match, which they already should have won in that first half there.

And Poland: yes, it is true. They start out passionately and play fiercely the first 30 minutes. After that, they collapse.

My bets were totally off in this group!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kubador on 17-06-2012, 08:06:58
fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff...

oh well, show must go on. I'm happy that our boys made a fight in comparison with the previous team. Dunno who to cheer for yet. Why not Ukraine.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 17-06-2012, 17:06:32
I don't why Russia go.

By this statistics, their goal advantage is 2 (because they defeated CZE by 4-1). While Greek is 0, defeated by a mere 1-2 and then won to Russia by 1-0.

By average score, Russia should have advanced, anyone can explain why is it Greece?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 17-06-2012, 17:06:06
Its the results between the teams that decides. So greece have the same points as russia, but greece won against them = greece advances.

In a hypothetical situation where they would have tied, and their points would be the same, THEN the goal difference would come into account.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 17-06-2012, 18:06:43
So despite having collected same amount of points (Russia 4 and Greece 4) by losing ,winning, and drawing once. The knock out is decided by which team lose to which?

I thought we will be looking at the goal difference when the points are tied, not the match between competing team.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Ts4EVER on 17-06-2012, 18:06:21
But then you would have a situation where the outcome isn't clear.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 17-06-2012, 20:06:12
Well, it came down to either Russia or Greece (both on 4 points). Greece won against Russia, then it's pretty much just fair that they advance. Greece won when it really counted, doesn't matter HOW you win, just that you win.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 17-06-2012, 23:06:50
For all the Cristiano Ronaldo haters:

SIT DOWN!   ;D ;D

(http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Photo/competitions/Comp_Matches/01/82/50/99/1825099_w1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Eglaerinion on 17-06-2012, 23:06:20
That was shit. Not unexpected though. We have a piss poor defence so we never stood a chance.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: NTH on 17-06-2012, 23:06:00
Ughh I still am a Ronaldo hater, but damn he can play. Our defense didn't stand a chance.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Sgt.KAR98 on 18-06-2012, 00:06:31
Can't believe all the teams I was supporting were kicked out.How Russia could be out and Greece come in????
If Italy and Ukraine get out of the tournament...damn...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 18-06-2012, 00:06:10
Poor game by Germany. But we made it, at least the only team with 9 points, does not make us a favourite though. Gonna lose semifinals vs Spain again I guess ::)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 18-06-2012, 01:06:02
I don't see how you can say that Germany played poorly. The first 20 minutes were great, and all through the game they played with much control. Hummels could be a new Beckenbauer.
Denmark on the other hand were really good, and have been through all three games. They deserved better than this ending.

Lars Bender as a right full-back. AFAIK he has neverp layed there before, he did an okay job but far from perfect with some missed markings. My question is why, when Boateng is unavailable, Löw doesn't move Lahm to the right-back, and put in Schmelzer on the left. I really wish to see Schmelzer get a chance.
Also like to see Götze and Reus get their shots, but damn the german offensive midfield might be the best and broadest I've ever seen. I really like Schürrle too
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 18-06-2012, 02:06:44
Well, my friends told me the same. First half was okay, maybe good. But imo second half our team just stood around too much and moved without passion. Denmark played definitely well, but it was pretty close for Germany by the end of the game before Bender scored. I expected more passion, more fight.


Lars Bender is a guy from Leverkusen, my favourite football club and he is a very hard worker, usually in defensive midfield. His fitness results were the best in the whole team. Yes it's true, he never really played on that right defender position. Schmelzer is not bad, but he is not a great player. As a lot of players from Dortmund they just fit in the perfect system of the club. No need for too much skills, they have their role and they can play it. Schmelzer tends to make mistakes here and there. Bender is generally the better player and is very versatile. Putting him there was imo the right decision. He can't replace Boateng though. Boateng on the right side is better than in the middle at munich. Imo one of the best defenders in the world atm.

The goal was awesome for Bender btw, felt so happy ! Schürrle is the second Leverkusen player and he is awesome. Imo he's even better than Podolski (I like Poldi too though) offensively. Defensively Podolski is working very hard lately and does it as much as Schürrle, Schürrle is a very hard worker and just seems to be more agile offensively atm, but has less experience and does not fit the system as well as Poldi does when we hit a tough enemy. Podolski and Schürrle are quite equal in my opinion, with slightly different roles.

Regarding your question. Lahm does not like to play on the right. Tried before, but it did not end too well. It's still an option, but Schmelzer is only a replacement in the German team. Höwedes would probably have been the choice before Schmelzer if Bender would not have been avaiable. Löw does not like to let Lahm play on the right and tries to prevent it if possible. Also, Podolski and Lahm support each other very well on the left flank, especially in defense. Probably a major reason.

We have so awesome palyers on the bench. No other team in the world has such a good bunch of 23 players. Götze and Reus are awesome players, would rule the game in every other team, but German midfield is so strong already. The will get their shots in the future. Anyway, Müller does not impress me lately, he is still hyped by his 2010 play. Imo Reus should get a chance to play. Götze does not fit the system atm. Despite having such a great team I doubt we are going to win the Euros, but who knows... :)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 18-06-2012, 04:06:44
Still, the situation in group A baffles me. Russia has 3 goal advantage after defeating Czech Rep. 4-1. In any football tournament, that should count as second factor for advancing to the next round after collecting points. Or is there any new kinds of rule?

I'm not questioning Greece here, but rather being confused by the rule. Because we often talked about a team needed to score certain amount of goals in their last match in order to advance.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: DLFReporter on 18-06-2012, 08:06:50
Iirc, and please someone correct me on this as I'm not a pro in football tournament rules, the goal difference counts when the teams have the same amount of points but didn't play their last game against each other.
When they do play the last game against each other, then the winning team advances no matter what the goal difference says, as the winning team defeated the other in "direct combat".  :)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 18-06-2012, 09:06:37
Yep, that's right. The head-to-head record counts before the goal difference in the UEFA.

The FIFA does it the other way as far as I know. It's a weird rule of the UEFA. People say they do it to annoy the FIFA because these 2 organisations don't like each other and the UEFA wants to seperate themselves. I agree that this rule is  stupid, apparently power games are more important than football for them.

Well, they are both highly corrupt anyway, time to blow them up, but that's another story.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 18-06-2012, 10:06:31
Ah thanks guys for the clarification. Even the wikipedia got it wrong too.  :P

I guess it's even stranger seeing that the Russian fans did nothing like protesting for the results. Looks like everyone is already used to it.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 18-06-2012, 11:06:07
Premier League Fixtures for 2012/2013 are now released!

http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news/news/barclays-premier-league-2012-13-fixtures-day.html

Remember that Europa League qualified teams will have some dates changed, mostly Saturday fixtures moved to Sunday instead.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 18-06-2012, 12:06:15
I guess it's even stranger seeing that the Russian fans did nothing like protesting for the results. Looks like everyone is already used to it.
What are you talking about? protests?
It's a rule, and everyone knows of it.

I really like it. The amount of goals in previous games doesn't count, but the game between the two contesting teams is really important. It's much more fair.
Say a team plays defensively (a la Chelsea in CL), should they be knocked out just because another team has a different style of play and scores more goals? hell no!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 18-06-2012, 12:06:39
A lot of rumbling around Tottenham Hotspurs at the moment.

So far

- AVB seems like the hottest candidate, Martinez and Moyes are fading out.
- Several sources say that the setup Spurs are going for is AVB as a manager and a new Director of Football who previously was responsible for the Spurs Academy
- Focus will be on young players, same as AVB tried at Chelsea.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 18-06-2012, 13:06:44
@Ted:

I mean it's weird outside the Euro, but seeing the Russian not protesting, it seems that everyone there is already familiar with the rule.

Russian massacred Czech Rep. with 4-1, but Greece was defeated 1-2 by Czech Rep. But I kinda agree with the rule, because it prevents the top team to jerk around in their last game.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 18-06-2012, 13:06:41
A lot of rumbling around Tottenham Hotspurs at the moment.

So far

- AVB seems like the hottest candidate, Martinez and Moyes are fading out.
- Several sources say that the setup Spurs are going for is AVB as a manager and a new Director of Football who previously was responsible for the Spurs Academy
- Focus will be on young players, same as AVB tried at Chelsea.
Reading rumours that Modric is on his way to Real Madrid. I'm not sure I see the purpose of that, perhaps if Kaka leaves then he could rotate quite a bit. I mean, look at what happened to Nuri Sahin (although injuries are mostly to blame there). I don't see modric taking a starting-place in Real Madrid today. I guess that would be if Di Maria is pushed to the bench, Ronaldo on the right and Modric/Özil on the left wing/central position.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Battlefieldfan45 (CroPanzer) on 18-06-2012, 16:06:57
Croatia is gonna beat Spain's ass today :P
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 18-06-2012, 17:06:29
Croatia is gonna beat Spain's ass today :P
I hope so too, Modric/Kranjcar/Corluka go!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: th_battleaxe on 18-06-2012, 17:06:35
Spain doesn't seem to be at the top of its game unfortunately, however I still hope they can win to chuck out the Greeks later on.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Smiles on 18-06-2012, 17:06:18
Netherlands 0 points. 0... had fun yesterday though  :)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 18-06-2012, 17:06:57
Forza Italia!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 18-06-2012, 18:06:34
Let's see 2004 all over again! Spain-Croatia 2-2 and Italy are out!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 18-06-2012, 21:06:51
Why 2-2? Italy wins 3-0 and doesn't care about the 2nd match...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Eglaerinion on 19-06-2012, 00:06:54
With a decent referee Spain would be going home now. Croatia did a lot of things right today. Great performance and their fans can be proud.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Battlefieldfan45 (CroPanzer) on 19-06-2012, 00:06:48
I hate that referee
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 19-06-2012, 00:06:17
Great game from Modric, he won't be staying at Tottenham after this...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Sgt.KAR98 on 19-06-2012, 01:06:19
I was watching Italy's match.Although today I was supporting Croatia.Kinda felt bad for Ireland.They should have advanced along with Italy to the quarterfinals.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 19-06-2012, 01:06:25
This is the Italy i wanted to see, victories, i hope there will be more!.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 19-06-2012, 02:06:27
Referee missed two clear penalties for Croatia, who did a great game against Spain.

Spain is the most boring team I've watched this whole world cup, hell Greece is more fun to watch. They just pass around the ball, pass it sideways without getting anywhere. They rather pass than finish.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: SiCaRiO on 19-06-2012, 02:06:54
you must have seen a diferrent patch then. most of the time the ball was in croatian side
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 19-06-2012, 02:06:15
I didn't say spain weren't passing the ball sideways on the croation side.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Thorondor123 on 19-06-2012, 12:06:20
Welcome to Spanish football.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Natty on 19-06-2012, 12:06:17
Referee missed two clear penalties for Croatia, who did a great game against Spain.

Spain is the most boring team I've watched this whole world cup, hell Greece is more fun to watch. They just pass around the ball, pass it sideways without getting anywhere. They rather pass than finish.

this^ I want them out!

boring now... holland, russia out.... only EEEENGLAND left to root for... then again, if germany makes it to the final (which I think they will) I hope they kick the spaniards butts!

most fun semi's lineup now: england, germany, france, italy. Germany kicks france butts and England kicks Italian butts, then GER vs ENG in final, ENG win!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 19-06-2012, 12:06:06
Some people here really have zero knowledge about football....
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: SiCaRiO on 19-06-2012, 15:06:37
I didn't say spain weren't passing the ball sideways on the croation side.

its effective, isn't it?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 19-06-2012, 16:06:21
I didn't say spain weren't passing the ball sideways on the croation side.

its effective, isn't it?
I've never said otherwise, same with Barcelona. It's incredibly effective, and they do what they do very well. But it is insanely boring to watch.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: TuscanGangster on 19-06-2012, 16:06:31
I live in Spain and you're getting on my nerves. ::)
I've got italian blood though. ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Fuchs on 19-06-2012, 16:06:06
Some people here really have zero knowledge about football....
And some people have zero knowledge on history, so what? As long as people have fun watching the games. I do hope it will not be Spain-Germany again. But I must say, for both the European and World champion Spain sort of has to kick ass. But they only touch tiny butts right now. Come on, Spaniards! I cheered for you during the finals in 2010, don't make me lose my ultra-troll now.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 19-06-2012, 17:06:10
Nooo... it has to be the underdogs from now. Yay! For England and Czech Republic. No, honestly, I support the Germans from the beginning. It's time for the closet boy team to go down and the red fury to stop.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 19-06-2012, 19:06:59
Some people here really have zero knowledge about football....
Luckily you have much knowledge about it, and you are about to enlighten us:
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 19-06-2012, 19:06:42
Some people here really have zero knowledge about football....
Luckily you have much knowledge about it, and you are about to enlighten us:

Cant be arsed in doing it here.

Discussing football with people that have knowledge about it is already hard in reallife.

Discussing football here with you would be an impossible and absurd task.

Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one ...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Thorondor123 on 19-06-2012, 19:06:32
Oh mighty football messiah! Sprinkle us lesser beings with wisdom from your mighty brain!

Or maybe I'll just open the telly and enjoy the game without being bothered with elitists.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 19-06-2012, 20:06:29
Oh mighty football messiah! Sprinkle us lesser beings with wisdom from your mighty brain!

Or maybe I'll just open the telly and enjoy the game without being bothered with elitists.

Good try.... but no.

My guesses for tonight

England  2 - 1 Ukraine  ( highly unpredictable game. it could go either way )

Sweden  0 - 2 France

Edit: ( Already off. This Euro is full of surprises. )
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Thorondor123 on 19-06-2012, 22:06:17
Go Sweden! Go England! Awww yeaaah.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 19-06-2012, 22:06:00
Go Sweden! Go England! Awww yeaaah.

But, where is Sweden going ?  Ah ok.

They are going home.    ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 19-06-2012, 23:06:19
Sad of course to see Sweden gone, the fault lying in the first game against Ukraine where our coach Hamrén chose to play an injured Lustig, who haven't played a game for months, at  right back. With that leaving Jonas Olsson, one of premier leagues most wanted centre-backs (blocked the most shots in the whole season).

But I do feel real happy after this game. We played really really well, left the tournament in the best manner possible. I'm proud to be swedish today. France looked everything but motivated though, weird seeing as they now have to face Spain instead of Italy.

and what a goal from Zlatan! one of the greatest so far in the Euros, up there together with Welbecks goal. believe it or not, he's in 3rd place (after Shearer and Platini) of scored goals in the Euros in history.


And hey, we got more points and scored more goals than the Netherlands.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 19-06-2012, 23:06:35
More rumble regarding Tottenham and AVB

 The Guardian just now reported that chairman Daniel Levy is even more sure that AVB is the right choice for Tottenham and AVB is looking for a promise that current top players will stay, Modric especially since AVB tried to sign him during his spell at Chelsea.

According to the Guardian AVB has been promised a lot of space and cash for the transfer window to secure a striker since Tottenham are struggling with Adebayors wage demands and having Saha on a free transfer with only Defoe as the current real option.

I pray to the Gods that AVB is chosen fast and quick now so they can get their shit together ASAP
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 20-06-2012, 00:06:33
And hey, we got more points and scored more goals than the Netherlands.
Yes, good show tonight, Sweden, well done. I was cheering for you just as some of you were cheering for our team. Sadly both our teams didn't go through, but at least your team showed what it is capable of.

Before the EC started I said we would go very far or we would go home after group phase. Well, 2nd thing happened. Sad about how it was played out, angry at the players mentality, the arrogance has risen beyond any reasonable level.

I hope the coach (don't know who it is gonna be, BVM or someone else) will delete those arrogant assholes from the team, as they don't make a team: they play for themselves. Everyone blaming Van Marwijk for everything is only looking into one direction: both the coach and the players are to blame. The coach for being conservative, the players for thinking about themselves only. They aren't worthy to play for our country.

It was a crying shame that several players of this team didn't want to greet the fans at the airport at homecoming, they didn't even want to hand out autographs to waitng kids. God, the arrogance! I mean, after a show like this EC, you should be thankful ANYONE showed up on the airfield at all!

I sincerely hope a new team will be built up, with a new spirit. I'd rather see a young team in 2014 which will not reach the semifinals, or even the quarter finals, than yet another show of egocentrism where players think they are bigger than the team, the coach or whatever.

In the meantime I'll follow the EC because I love football. Tonight was interesting, but again a shameful display when the goal by Ukraine was cancelled unjustly. I can't stand such things. It would have turned the game around and maybe even have given a chance to Ukraine. This old guy Blatter should go and be replaced by a younger type who knows that technology should have been introduced years ago,. The human eye can't follow the speed of the game anymore. But noooo, Blatter and his mob want to cherish the "charm of the game". Yeah, right assholes, what's more important: charm or fair play?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: SiCaRiO on 20-06-2012, 00:06:46
missed both matches, my TV is not working and im lazy xD. anyone willing to resume both matches in 2 lines? :P
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 20-06-2012, 00:06:38
More rumble regarding Tottenham and AVB

 The Guardian just now reported that chairman Daniel Levy is even more sure that AVB is the right choice for Tottenham and AVB is looking for a promise that current top players will stay, Modric especially since AVB tried to sign him during his spell at Chelsea.

According to the Guardian AVB has been promised a lot of space and cash for the transfer window to secure a striker since Tottenham are struggling with Adebayors wage demands and having Saha on a free transfer with only Defoe as the current real option.

I pray to the Gods that AVB is chosen fast and quick now so they can get their shit together ASAP

It will be great if AVB goes for Tottenham. It means they will buy some FCPorto players for high fees.
Specially our star, Hulk and Alvaro Pereira. 60€M for the first and 20€M for the 2nd and you can buy them.
 ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 20-06-2012, 00:06:52
Hulk has been mentioned earlier today regarding AVB eventually heading for Spurs since he wanted him even back in the Chelsea days, as a Spurs fan. I would not mind that at all since Adebayor/Saha/Defoe is not a proper line-up for a striker team.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Sgt.KAR98 on 20-06-2012, 05:06:45
missed both matches, my TV is not working and im lazy xD. anyone willing to resume both matches in 2 lines? :P

Today's ones?

France lost to Sweden,England defeated Ukraine,thanks to the referee.That goal was legal.
Didn't saw all the match,just 1st half.

BTW,did anyone watch the Italy x Croatia game?What was Balotelli going to say after he scored?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Thorondor123 on 20-06-2012, 16:06:05
missed both matches, my TV is not working and im lazy xD. anyone willing to resume both matches in 2 lines? :P

Today's ones?

France lost to Sweden,England defeated Ukraine,thanks to the referee.That goal was legal.

But you didn't see the obvious offside before the goal? ::)

Oh well, the linesman didn't see it either.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 20-06-2012, 16:06:01
Rewatched the situation. and Thorondor is definitely right, it was offisde
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JtNRU4LpDM

Hard one to spot
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Natty on 20-06-2012, 18:06:59
Sweden totally pwned France, LOL! Zlatans goal was seriously badass!
Did you see the break by Mellberg first? Looked like the one Rambo does on the cop in the policestation in First Blood, then Zlatans Karate-kick on Volley BLAM! straight in the goal.¨

And the 2nd goal, also on volley on the return: BLAM! really cool to end the championship by knowing you're going home, then do the best match. GG! and honor to Hamréns boyz

Football dont use goal cams like hockey, so if the referee didnt see the ball in, it wasnt a goal :) same goes for offside goals.

It happens at least once in every championship, nothing to care about. The option would be to start using goal cams etc, but FIFA/UEFAsnt going that way so crying rivers full of tears wont change anything.

Now, let's watch England win this baby and Spain lose in the quarters. YaY!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 20-06-2012, 18:06:33
So i was on the internet today and seen this title:

Van Persie too good for 'low-level' Serie A

Who said that? A man who has never won an European Trophy, yes, Mr. Wenger. He deserves to be in the same UCL group with Juventus or Milan and get their asses kicked HARD. He just cant say that when his Van Persie plays to win low-level titles like FA Cup, what an ignorant fool.

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Football dont use goal cams like hockey, so if the referee didnt see the ball in, it wasnt a goal :) same goes for offside goals.


Ah thats true. IF cams were implemented, it would end up with players from one team stopping the match constantly to replay something and crying about it, but in the other hand it would make football a bit more transparent and fair.

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Now, let's watch England win this baby and Spain lose in the quarters. YaY!


England wont win this Euro, i know it, they will fail.

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 20-06-2012, 19:06:39
I've always hate it when EPL people dissed other leagues competition level. EPL has always been overrated, despite the good show. La Liga itself is boring, because there are only 2 teams that dominates the whole competition. Serie-A is more dramatic, more interesting, but itself full of scandals and trickery that makes me disgusted, but can't just hate it yet.

England:
Nobody knows... really. We have a saying that "the ball is round, it can roll to any sides." So nobody knows whether the favourite team will stay or not, it's just a mere statistics.

I'd say slim chances against Spain, but they do have chances.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 20-06-2012, 20:06:00
Football dont use goal cams like hockey, so if the referee didnt see the ball in, it wasnt a goal :) same goes for offside goals.

It happens at least once in every championship, nothing to care about. The option would be to start using goal cams etc, but FIFA/UEFAsnt going that way so crying rivers full of tears wont change anything.
Ah, so if someone makes a mistake, the reality just isn't there anymore? LOL  :D

It is very, very old-fashioned to not introduce linecams. Tennis has it, hockey has it. It works. In those sports players are used to it and they aren't "stopping the game every minute". If they are gonna do so in football, you can make rules on that if you want.

But staying in your cave like a dinosaur like UEFA isn't helping. Football has to meet present day's standards. It is "nothing to care about" when it isn't your team losing maybe, and maybe you like injustice. Well I don't. Ukraine scored a goal yesterday and the game would have been way more interesting to watch after, because when they would have score again, they would have gomne through to quarter finals.

The fact that it happens at least every championship shows how wrong it is to not adjust to the higher speed of the game these days. Human eyes can't see everything. In tennis they found out about it, and solved the problem. Why are the officials in football so stubborn?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 21-06-2012, 00:06:35
I've always hate it when EPL people dissed other leagues competition level. EPL has always been overrated, despite the good show. La Liga itself is boring, because there are only 2 teams that dominates the whole competition. Serie-A is more dramatic, more interesting, but itself full of scandals and trickery that makes me disgusted, but can't just hate it yet.

England:
Nobody knows... really. We have a saying that "the ball is round, it can roll to any sides." So nobody knows whether the favourite team will stay or not, it's just a mere statistics.

I'd say slim chances against Spain, but they do have chances.

I wouldn't say EPL is overrated seeing as its best players are foreign, not English
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 21-06-2012, 01:06:37
Was my post removed? or did I just forget to press "post"? I could have sworn I did.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Eat Uranium on 21-06-2012, 02:06:36
Was my post removed? or did I just forget to press "post"? I could have sworn I did.
I don't see any post by you in the deleted post subforum.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 21-06-2012, 02:06:44
wat?  I bet the deleted post subforum is pretty sweet to read.

Anyway I am still happy that football hasn't introduced video technology into the referring, it makes the game more interesting.  in the words of Alexei Lalas life is not fair and neither is football.

also the prices charged by manufacturers for football kit are criminal.  and i wanted the new Aston Villa shirt.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 21-06-2012, 03:06:40
I can't believe tickets for a match in Argentina are so damn high!


An average citizen has an income of 3500$ a month, a ticket to see the LAST match of the season is 100$.

I miss the old days when a ticket was 30$ or something, now its a pain in the ass!.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Sgt.KAR98 on 21-06-2012, 06:06:59
Russia is off the euro,but its Jersey price is still in.I have a Serbia jersey that was a lot cheaper after the end of 2010 WC.

About other leagues,today Corinthians won the semi-final of the Libertadores.First time at the final!WOOOOOOOOOT!
Hope we don't face Boca Juniors...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 21-06-2012, 16:06:45
Russia is off the euro,but its Jersey price is still in.I have a Serbia jersey that was a lot cheaper after the end of 2010 WC.

About other leagues,today Corinthians won the semi-final of the Libertadores.First time at the final!WOOOOOOOOOT!
Hope we don't face Boca Juniors...

Ah, all you have to do in order to beat Boca Juniors is to mark Riquelme and not let him create chances. He is one of the best players in South America.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Smiles on 21-06-2012, 17:06:56
Haha poor Slayer, i feel bad for you man. Its just a game remember that  ;D.

My football watching carreer is really going terrible this ec. Have only watched 4 or 5 matches including the dutch ones.. i feel kinda bad, almost feminine.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Gezoes on 21-06-2012, 18:06:30
FIFA/UEFA listen to one thing: Money. But I'm afraid football is far too popular for media or sponsors to withdraw money trying to demand better arbitrary systems. That would be the way though. Say every major European broadcoaster said no. It'll never happen of course, but should it, it will be implemented overnight.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 21-06-2012, 19:06:55
Haha poor Slayer, i feel bad for you man. Its just a game remember that  ;D.
Yes, I know, but I like my games to be fair. In the current situation, one of the 6 (!) referees is sleeping, and unjustice prevails. I can't stand that.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 21-06-2012, 23:06:54
Easy win for Portugal.

It could have ended 4-0 easily for us.

And Cristiano Ronaldo strikes again.    ;D ;D

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/06/21/article-2162883-13B9833E000005DC-370_634x459.jpg)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Fuchs on 21-06-2012, 23:06:09
How many times did he change his hair?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 21-06-2012, 23:06:48
Not even once. He missed more chances than he changed hairstyles this game. Portugal was way better than Czech Republic, but I think this was their last win. If you get so many chances and only score once, you're not gonna win the cup.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 22-06-2012, 00:06:34
As long as he keeps on scoring he can change it has many times has he likes.   8)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 22-06-2012, 01:06:36
Haha poor Slayer, i feel bad for you man. Its just a game remember that  ;D.
Thing is, it's not just a game.
"Some people believe football is a matter of life and death, I am very disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more important than that". - Bill Shankly

On goal-cameras etc:

I'm stronly opposed introducing cameras to decide wether the ball is in the goal. Me personally, I'm pretty much okay with some goals being missed and some goals being unrightfully given (even though the team I support might be punished, but we might as well be benefited). However, I fear the very game is being very damaged by the craze around missed goals and huge criticism towards the referees, so something has to be done for the good of football. Therefore I support introducing a chip in the ball (á la ice-hockey) that tells you when the ball has passed the line.
Thing about goal cameras is that they would inevitebly also lead to having cameras overlooking the game, monitoring wether tackles, cards, free kicks etc are wrongfully given. My problem with this is:

- Not all stadiums/clubs have neither the budget nor the possibility to implement yet another camera. This mainly applies to club teams outside the 4 biggest leagues.

- The cameras would require one more qualified referee to sit by a screen watching and judging. And we just don't have enough qualified referees. Proof can be found in the worthless acting from some of the box-referees behind the goals this EC. (remember that everyone of the currently 6 active referees have to be able to judge a big game. Just today the swedish referee judging the Germany-Holland game stood as a substitution-referee).

- It would take a lot of time. Stopping the game every pause to see that it has been done correctly, effectively ruining the flow of the game, and bringing it closer to the american Handegg with it's 30 second pauses every 6 seconds.

- Say what you will, but I think a lot of the charm in football is that things can go wrong, human error. With cameras it would begin to turn more mechanized. This human error can stir up so many feelings within me, good or bad. And these feelings are the resons I love football; these mixed emotions.

I may just be conservative, and you may call me a hypocrite for saying I want a chip in the ball to show when goals are scored. But this is what I strongly believe.
Sometimes, I really hate that I love football. And that's how it should be.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 22-06-2012, 01:06:47
They've beaten Czech Republic, the Freezer, i don't think Czech Republic can stand the Pressure.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 22-06-2012, 04:06:09
We may hate Portugal (who loves them besides the Portuguese?). But I have a feeling that we might see the ultimate Andalusian duel at the final, with Spain dominating its smaller neighbour.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 22-06-2012, 10:06:25
They will play in semi final if Spain beats France...

I also think that chip should be implemented in the balls... What about cameras - I think that they can be tried in the CL for example and we'll see how they will work, but I don't think that they would have bad influence on the game. How many controvelsial situations do you have during a single match - 3, 4?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 22-06-2012, 12:06:37
We may hate Portugal (who loves them besides the Portuguese?).

What a stupid statement.
I also hate the coward and invertebrate Indonesians for the murder of thousands of innocent people in Timor but you dont see me comment about that do you.

But I have a feeling that we might see the ultimate Andalusian duel at the final, with Spain dominating its smaller neighbour.

This reveals you have zero knowledge about this Euro. Please stop embarrasing yourself.


Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Thorondor123 on 22-06-2012, 12:06:50
Nah, it's you who are embarrassing yourself, elitist.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 22-06-2012, 12:06:03
Nah, it's you who are embarrassing yourself, elitist.

Aint talking to you, so please go back to your troll hole.   ::)

If having knowledge about a certain subject, while others clearly dont, and speaking about it is being "elitist?" in your crazy little brain, than yes i am.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Thorondor123 on 22-06-2012, 12:06:15
Nah, it's you who are embarrassing yourself, elitist.

Aint talking to you, so please go back to your troll hole.   ::)

If having knowledge about a certain subject, while others clearly dont, and speaking about it is being "elitist?" in your crazy little brain, than yes i am.
Having knowledge does not make you an elitist, but insulting others does. Take this as a warning. :)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 22-06-2012, 16:06:42
On goal-cameras etc:

Therefore I support introducing a chip in the ball (á la ice-hockey) that tells you when the ball has passed the line.
I don't care which system they implement as warning for a ball crossing the line. They might use hawk-eye, like in tennis, or they might use the chip in the ball. I don't really need cameras to do it, as long as it is done.

A cleaner game, a game which is more fair, will be a game which is more enjoyable. Because I'm watching football because of the game itself.

When I wanna have mixed emotions, happiness and anger, I can watch the news everyday ;)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 22-06-2012, 16:06:42
Well, nobody knows that they mixed the winners of which matches into semifinals. The official tournament calendars also pretty much unclear:

http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro/season=2012/tournament-calendar/index.html

So QF3 is France vs. Spain, just because they are played on the third day of QF rounds? Not because they are from group C? BIG effing DEAL UEFA... bunch of funny hipsters.

First is the goal difference rules, now it's mixing the pools...



And BTW, anybody here supports Portugal besides RAnDOOm?  :P

Maan, I should start with CR, having him alone makes me already dislike Real Madrid and Portugal (he was okay when in MU though).

I have to say, your glory days are over, when the Greeks beat you 8 years ago... and probably 6 years ago at Germany. That time CR7 had Rui Costa, Figo, Pauleta, Conceição, Couto, Nuno Gomes, Simão, Carvalho, Deco, and even the goalkeeper itself is a superstar, Ricardo. Now that's 11 guys there. If I looked down on Portugal at that time, you can call me anything. But now? Surely you can't be serious...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 22-06-2012, 16:06:31
Its very simple, here you go:

(http://www.kickoff.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/euro-2012-tree.jpg)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 22-06-2012, 16:06:54
Why do you hate Ronaldo so much ?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 22-06-2012, 17:06:08
I only hate him for his on-court behavior, outside of it, he is pretty fine for me, all of those social work, donations, charities. Probably, he is a much better man than me.

Well, back to football... it must be the wink and the spit on the cameraman. Sometimes, he is over the top, forgotten that even Iniesta had Xavi, Puyol, Xabi Alonso, and Casillas with him, or Lahm had Schweinsteiger, Özil, Khedira, Müller, Podolski, and Neuer... you know that made a team. Sometimes I see that CR thinks the whole team rests on his shoulders.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 22-06-2012, 17:06:08
Ronaldo statistics from the last 3 years speak for themselves:

2011-12
Games: 69
Goals: 74
Assists: 16

2010-11
Games: 65
Goals: 56
Assists: 16

2009-10
Games: 39
Goals: 33
Assists: 7
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 22-06-2012, 18:06:13
Those stats can easily prove that CR thinks he is the only guy on the pitch ;)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 22-06-2012, 18:06:56
Those stats can easily prove that CR thinks he is the only guy on the pitch ;)

How can you say that when he has an average 16 assists per season ?

Do you know what an assist is ?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 22-06-2012, 18:06:55
Nobody says he is a bad player either. Most people can comment on the number of his assist, but it doesn't mean he doesn't share the ball, some people are much better at executing it, so he did. You know it's football. I am a different asshole, thus I prefer the emotional-melodramatic Roberto Baggio, or (in current days of football) Lionel Messi.

But yeah like I said, the wink and the spit... he acted as if Portugal should have won because they had him in it. Well, if your opponent is a better one (or luckier), then the greatest player on the planet can't do anything can't they? George Weah was a Liberian. He was world best player back in 1995. But that couldn't bring Liberia to World Cup either. When you fail at something, then your ego exploded and show it off to the public, well, I don't have to explain it here.


Regarding EPL: back in 2006, it was all the hype, people around me were talking about Liverpool, MU, Arsenal, Chelsea, and all English clubs. Thierry Henry was the hot stuff back then. He met Italy at WC2006 Final, from the "scandalous", "dirty-playing", "corruption-laden" Italian Serie-A league (major match fixing case/Calciopoli Scandal, and Gianluca Pessotto's suicide attempt). They were the darkhorse, but me and my brother viewed it differently. As soon as the play starts, it was clear that Italy is an exact match for even for one of La Liga's best players (Zidane) and EPL's best goal scorer (Henry). Controversies aside, it says everything about Italian league quality (all Italian squad members came from Serie-A clubs). You don't just judge them by looking at Champions league results and how the local bookies managed to get to the officials.

Also, I was wrong about current Italian squad. I first thought they would be massacred by Spain and won't make it through the group matches. But they prevailed.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 22-06-2012, 18:06:17
Those stats can easily prove that CR thinks he is the only guy on the pitch ;)

How can you say that when he has an average 16 assists per season ?

Do you know what an assist is ?
Yes, of course ;) (this type of remark of you makes Thor write that you're an elitist, btw)

But 16 assists compared to 74 goals is somewhat... unequal.

You react like I'm insulting Ronaldo and he is your best friend or something. Relax dude, we're talking football.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 22-06-2012, 18:06:24
We disagree in alot of points there. Put thats more then normal. Everyone is entitled to there own opinion.

Thorondor123 called me an elitist and i consider that an insult. So he has been warned. 

Im totally relaxed, football is a subject where emotions prevail and im aware of that.  ;)

In the end we will see if Portugal will prevail, i still believe we dont have a change either agaisnt France or Spain, but i said that also vs Holland...   8)

Now back to the Ronaldo subject, having an average of 16 assists per season is more the above the average.
Having an average of 40 goals per season is more then average since he is not a striker. There are 2 only players in all the history of football capable of that, and both of them are still playing and will continue on playing for years.
So, i ask you, dont you consider Ronaldo to be one of the best in world ?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 22-06-2012, 18:06:30

But 16 assists compared to 74 goals is somewhat... unequal.


Well, actually I hate players that takes time to find another player to score, while he himself is in a very good position to score, which is rare in important tournament games. That statistics actually says, Ronaldo did hog the ball, but for a good reason.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 22-06-2012, 18:06:37
So, i ask you, dont you consider Ronaldo to be one of the best in world ?
I never said that he isn't a good player :) He is also very complete, he can do every aspect of attacking football well. Defending I don't know, because he doesn't do that.

It is his behaviour that most people despise, and I totally understand that. With quotes like "It is because I'm so handsome and so good at football, that people are jealous at me" you aren't making any friends, I think. It is kind of megalomaniac.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 22-06-2012, 19:06:52
The thing that people dont understand and he is doing his job and he does it very well.

He does not give a flying f%# of what people think about him.

Ouside side the pitch, and Zoologic said it very well, he does alot of social work, donations, charities. Probably much more the any of us in the forum combined together.

He is a public figure yes, but people tend to look to what the magazines write and not what he actually does.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 22-06-2012, 19:06:39
Ouside side the pitch, and Zoologic said it very well, he does alot of social work, donations, charities. Probably much more the any of us in the forum combined together.
Yes, and that's a good thing. But he also makes more money than all of us in the forum combined together. ;)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Smiles on 22-06-2012, 19:06:22
The man is a god, he gets payed milions, he has been tranferred for nearly 100m, plays great seasons, has an unique style, he has balls and gives a shit about his looks plus he delivers.

There is zero reason to critique this guy any other than when he plays bad matches, wich he rarely does.

Haters gonna hate.

Edit: and zoologic, if you want me to read your posts stick to the subject more and make it less in quantity, its a waste of effort cause i just dont bother anymore reading all of it. If im the only one ignore this post, if you dont care, ignore this post.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 22-06-2012, 19:06:36
Ouside side the pitch, and Zoologic said it very well, he does alot of social work, donations, charities. Probably much more the any of us in the forum combined together.
Yes, and that's a good thing. But he also makes more money than all of us in the forum combined together. ;)

Obvious is obvious....

But does that make him a lesser man ?

The man is a god, he gets payed milions, he has been tranferred for nearly 100m, plays great seasons, has an unique style, he has balls and gives a shit about his looks plus he delivers.

There is zero reason to critique this guy any other than when he plays bad matches, wich he rarely does.

Haters gonna hate.

Agree totally.   ;)

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 22-06-2012, 19:06:24
Edit: and zoologic, if you want me to read your posts stick to the subject more and make it less in quantity, its a waste of effort cause i just dont bother anymore reading all of it. If im the only one ignore this post, if you dont care, ignore this post.

I was asked to explain myself, so I did. It is football, and for me it is a kind of passion. You could have read a whole book if you really give a shit about why I like this and hate that. But I don't want to torture you like that.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 22-06-2012, 20:06:30
Ouside side the pitch, and Zoologic said it very well, he does alot of social work, donations, charities. Probably much more the any of us in the forum combined together.
Yes, and that's a good thing. But he also makes more money than all of us in the forum combined together. ;)

Obvious is obvious....

But does that make him a lesser man ?
No, I already wrote what does.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 22-06-2012, 21:06:53
Ouside side the pitch, and Zoologic said it very well, he does alot of social work, donations, charities. Probably much more the any of us in the forum combined together.
Yes, and that's a good thing. But he also makes more money than all of us in the forum combined together. ;)

Obvious is obvious....

But does that make him a lesser man ?
No, I already wrote what does.

So having a big ego and he does, but still helping the needing and the poor every single day makes him a lesser man ?

Your point is that is arrogant. He can look like that for the common folk/magazines, but he gives alot back into the needing society, and we have alot that here in Portugal.

He helps hundreds of people in Madeira every day with big donations to poor families.

Dont forget that he comes from a poor familly and he had to struggle to be where he is now and still helps alot of poor and needing people everyday.

Dont believe what you see only on TV.  Try to read and inform yourself.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 22-06-2012, 22:06:58
DEUTSCHLANDDDDDDDD
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Ts4EVER on 22-06-2012, 22:06:30
I thought the penalty was harsh, I don't think the guy planned to hit the ball with his hand, he didn't even look at it.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 22-06-2012, 23:06:13
It doesn't matter - player stopped the ball with hand and he didn't have it near the body...

Anyway:
Detschland zieeeeeeeeeeeeeh!  ;D

For me they have been the favourites since the beginning.  ;)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 22-06-2012, 23:06:31
I thought the penalty was harsh, I don't think the guy planned to hit the ball with his hand, he didn't even look at it.
My guess is that the penalty wouldn't have been given when it would have been 2-1 for Germany at that moment. We have seen several situations like this in the EC until now, some were even worse, and then penalty was not given, so...

@RanDOOm: no, you misunderstand me. But let's end the "discussion", I can't discuss with devoted fans, you know. It's like discussing religion.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Sgt.KAR98 on 23-06-2012, 01:06:06
Meh,thought Greece standed a chance.Is it the end for Hellas or are there two more games for them?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 23-06-2012, 03:06:13
That match was lopsided. Clearly the Greeks cannot match the Germans. It is typical German games, like a panzer rolling over weaker opposition, you may shoot back once, twice, but they absorb the damage and win anyway.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: th_battleaxe on 23-06-2012, 11:06:12
in that case, I hope England wins and gets to play against Germany, Panzers versus Matilda's
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 23-06-2012, 16:06:57
the commentators on ESPN almost always use the word "blitzkrieg" when discussing Germany.  Freudian slips...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: th_battleaxe on 23-06-2012, 17:06:14
Germany vs Greece: summary

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiZt79UKUFQ&feature=fvst (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiZt79UKUFQ&feature=fvst)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 23-06-2012, 18:06:04
Wow this was a really stupid and useless discussion about Ronaldo.

Glad to see Germany playing that great, couldn't watch the whole game 'casue of midsummer celebration, so never saw the first greek goal. But Germany once again proved what a great team they are, loved to see Reus and Schürrle start, surprising as that was.
Mad though abot Gomez being on the bench, had bet some money on him scoring.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: SiCaRiO on 23-06-2012, 21:06:23
That was a beautiful goal by Xavi Alonso :D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Schneider on 23-06-2012, 21:06:58
Meh. France is making it too easy for Spain, huge holes in their zonal defense when the goal fell.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 23-06-2012, 21:06:12
That was a beautiful goal by Xavi Alonso :D
Xabi Alonso

Xavi Hernandez


France are playing pretty useless. Boring game.
Ribery has been absolutely worthless defensively, like he always are. Also, the goal can completely be blamed on what I think was Malouda, who saw Alonso zoom past him running towards a huge open space. Malouda were just standing there watching him.

France seems to lack the motivation to win this, just like they did against Sweden. Strange, considering that their first 2 games really showed some potential.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: SiCaRiO on 23-06-2012, 22:06:11
ohh Penalty, bye france!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 23-06-2012, 22:06:33
at least Scarface showed some spirit the whole game, the rest of the French team gave up pretty meekly even before the penalty.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Gluntz on 23-06-2012, 23:06:28
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Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 23-06-2012, 23:06:07
Since the Euros 2008, all games spain has played in the knock-out stages they have won with 1-0. Today they doubled that score thanks to a penalty.
I really don't understand how anyone can enjoy watching Spain play.

Not saying they aren't good, they are incredibly good at what they do. It's just boring as hell.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: SiCaRiO on 24-06-2012, 00:06:20
is not boring when you are living in spain xD
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 24-06-2012, 00:06:46
I very much hope that Ronaldo is able to shake up the Spanish side.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 24-06-2012, 03:06:17
I very much hope that Ronaldo is able to shake up the Spanish side.

I agree, but lets face it.

Its Ronaldo vs Spain.


Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 24-06-2012, 03:06:23
Go Ronaldo!

That game is quite a torture to watch... tiki-taka for the sake of possessing the ball much longer is not a show item.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 24-06-2012, 07:06:46
Spain's matches are fun when the opposition can do something.

The first minutes of any Spain match are good, but when they score and the oppositions gives up, its all about tiki-taka, no fun. OK, great football display, but we want to see goals, more goals.

However, if the opposition reacts quickly to that first Spanish goal, or if they score first, then it'll be an entertaining match.

For example, Spain v Italy wasn't boring at all, i enjoyed it.


Sunday: Italy v England, i can't watch it Live because of some TV Rights, but i'll watch the replay.

FORZA ITALIA
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Eglaerinion on 24-06-2012, 11:06:37
is not boring when you are living in spain xD
Last night's match can only be described as the most boring one yet.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 24-06-2012, 12:06:40
What a boring match! Endless passes... I think France lost it again mentally... I hope Germans in the final will crush them and endless passes will turn out as pointless passes.  :P
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 24-06-2012, 14:06:24
Since the Euros 2008, all games spain has played in the knock-out stages they have won with 1-0. Today they doubled that score thanks to a penalty.
I really don't understand how anyone can enjoy watching Spain play.

Not saying they aren't good, they are incredibly good at what they do. It's just boring as hell.
Yes, I agree. I totally didn't understand the anti-Barcelona posts by you and some others, but in this aspect I agree. Huge difference between Spain and Barcelona: amount of goals. Goals make the game more interesting! The game Spain plays now is strangle-football.

is not boring when you are living in spain xD
Last night's match can only be described as the most boring one yet.
Indeed, let's hope Spain is out asap. Boring teams should become more attractive or go home.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 24-06-2012, 14:06:04
The way I see it, Barcelona has a good playmaker or attacker with dribbling prowess like Messi, so most goal chances will convert. But Spain has nobody, they don't have Ronaldinho, Rivaldo, Messi, Maradona, Riquelme, Veron (yes Argentina is a good source) and alike to make tiki-taka in enemy's defensive zone more alive.

Anyway, I don't understand why Raymond Domenech isn't out yet. The guy simply can't make a team. France has a lot of talented individuals, but they are not there as a team.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: SiCaRiO on 24-06-2012, 15:06:35
Indeed, let's hope Spain is out asap. Boring teams should become more attractive or go home.

Or win everything. :)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 24-06-2012, 16:06:37
Anyway, I don't understand why Raymond Domenech isn't out yet. The guy simply can't make a team. France has a lot of talented individuals, but they are not there as a team.

Err... Laurent Blanc is the coach now...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 24-06-2012, 16:06:41
 ;D ;D

AHAHAHA
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 24-06-2012, 17:06:31
Sorry I watched this footage, same score, but it is from 2010 friendlies.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyPMs-i4uWk

Should have been suspicious, since Henry is still there and Spain is playing with Puyol here...   ;D
Really really stupid of me...

(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/003/193/1279052383758.jpg)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 24-06-2012, 17:06:48
Indeed, let's hope Spain is out asap. Boring teams should become more attractive or go home.

Or win everything. :)
No, that would be a reward for being boring.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: SiCaRiO on 24-06-2012, 17:06:21
no, that would be the result of playing better than the other team ;)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 24-06-2012, 17:06:31
This is my second stupidity:

I bet for Italy to get clean sheet, yet I also put Defoe there... forgot to change him with non-meeting team what a mindfuck in a single day.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Ciupita on 24-06-2012, 17:06:20
no, that would be the result of playing better than the other team ;)

They play better, but they could play entertaining football also... They don't do that now.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 24-06-2012, 18:06:34
no, that would be the result of playing better than the other team ;)

They play better, but they could play entertaining football also... They don't do that now.
This is exactly my point, SiCaRio.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: SiCaRiO on 24-06-2012, 20:06:37
http://youtu.be/1vBesOFURek
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 24-06-2012, 21:06:10
This day is great for any football fan.

First of all, England v Italy.

Now, in Argentina the tournament is hot, last match and only one team was relegated and there is no champion.

7 matches at the same time, with one of the possible champions, Tigre, who can also be relegated EVEN if they get the title. 3 Matches that will decide whos the Champion, 4 matches that will decide who is relegated.

One of the "5 Biggest", San Lorenzo, is also in relegation zone. Today, Juan Sebastian Veron retires, yesterday, River Plate promoted to first division.

Exciting matches!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Thorondor123 on 24-06-2012, 23:06:22
Aaaand that was the Euro 2012.

Next up; the Olympics.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 24-06-2012, 23:06:46
I both hate and love the idea of penalty shootouts. 
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 24-06-2012, 23:06:41
Aand that's england, a freezer.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: SiCaRiO on 24-06-2012, 23:06:27
oh well, might as well be preparing my money to spend on CIBELES once spain steamrolls the rest of the Euro 2012
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 24-06-2012, 23:06:08
A victory for football.

It was definitely a good thing for England to go out at this stage. It would have been embarrassing to see what the Germans would have done to them in the Semis.

Pirlo is such a class act; what a player, what a penalty!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 24-06-2012, 23:06:49
Before the match I really wanted England to get through and have great classic against Germany. However Italy deserved to win and the final result is fair.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 24-06-2012, 23:06:35
I still can't figure out why Milan sold Pirlo, he's a great player.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 25-06-2012, 00:06:26
Worst played game of the tournament, both teams sucked. So dull to watch. If germany plays even half as well as they have been they will rip italy a new asshole. Such a shameful quarter
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 25-06-2012, 00:06:14
Best goal of the tournament.

(http://i46.tinypic.com/33o6xvo.jpg)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 25-06-2012, 00:06:09
Worst played game of the tournament, both teams sucked. So dull to watch. If germany plays even half as well as they have been they will rip italy a new asshole. Such a shameful quarter
Wow, you can't have watched the Spain-France game.

Very exciting game! Sure, spain were in control and England were backing off. But the game had a LOT of chances. The game could really go either way, and I could hardly calm down at any time.
Compare that to Spain, were it's clear which team is going to win, Spain is in full control of the game but doesn't get to any chances.

Italy: 35 shots

Spain: 9 shots

Those statistics speaks for themselves
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 25-06-2012, 00:06:15
Worst played game of the tournament, both teams sucked. So dull to watch. If germany plays even half as well as they have been they will rip italy a new asshole. Such a shameful quarter

Yesterdays game was worst...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 25-06-2012, 00:06:43
Worst played game of the tournament, both teams sucked. So dull to watch. If germany plays even half as well as they have been they will rip italy a new asshole. Such a shameful quarter
What? This was the best game until now! Entertainment value 100%!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 25-06-2012, 05:06:38
Entertainment value?

It was 0-0 for 120 minutes. And lopsided. Nothing fun in that game
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 25-06-2012, 05:06:21
Cashley.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Sgt.KAR98 on 25-06-2012, 06:06:11
Sorry Your Majesty,but today I wasn't supporting England...

And how could the game been boring?Italy was probing the english defense at every minute!I was sure one of Ballotelli shots would end hitting the net.Long time didn't see a single man doing so much in a match...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Natty on 25-06-2012, 08:06:42
4 most boring teams left *yawn*  :-\
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 25-06-2012, 10:06:12
Entertainment value?

It was 0-0 for 120 minutes. And lopsided. Nothing fun in that game
and THERE your american eagerness and hunger for points/goals shows :)

0-0 does not equal boring game. This game was one of  the best 0-0  games I've seen. Despite no goals being scored, there was constant action! Never a dull moment with chances that all were on the verge of going in, and both teams had those chances, making it feel like the  game really could  go any way.

Sorry Moose, but I just can't comprehend how you can say that the game was boring
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: blue on 25-06-2012, 11:06:03
Entertainment value?

It was 0-0 for 120 minutes. And lopsided. Nothing fun in that game

You should probably quit watching football if you found that match boring.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Paasky on 25-06-2012, 12:06:56
So did someone win already or not?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 25-06-2012, 13:06:44
For the sake of interesting final, please no more German vs. Spain... I really really hope that Portugal wins!

What do you think of her chance against the mighty Spain o'our own in-house football expert? I guess they'll settle with penalty shoot-outs.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: SiCaRiO on 25-06-2012, 13:06:47
its Spain vs Ronaldo. of coure we are going to win.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 25-06-2012, 13:06:23
its Spain vs Ronaldo. of coure we are going to win.

You are so very wrong.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: TuscanGangster on 25-06-2012, 14:06:06
its Spain vs Ronaldo. of coure we are going to win.
Ganaremos con dos huevos... ;D
Hoping for a final Spain vs Italy, as I belong to both countries and I would celebrate whatever happens haha. But Germany seems very strong indeed.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Ts4EVER on 25-06-2012, 14:06:15
I think Germany - Italy might go either way.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 25-06-2012, 16:06:50
Entertainment value?

It was 0-0 for 120 minutes. And lopsided. Nothing fun in that game
and THERE your american eagerness and hunger for points/goals shows :)

0-0 does not equal boring game. This game was one of  the best 0-0  games I've seen. Despite no goals being scored, there was constant action! Never a dull moment with chances that all were on the verge of going in, and both teams had those chances, making it feel like the  game really could  go any way.

Sorry Moose, but I just can't comprehend how you can say that the game was boring


Someone never seen Argentina - Brazil during the Italia 1990 World Cup, Argentina's goal came in minute 80, but it was an epic match.

its Spain vs Ronaldo. of coure we are going to win.

You are so very wrong.

Alright, Ronaldo and Nani vs Spain.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 25-06-2012, 16:06:53
Alright, Ronaldo and Nani vs Spain.

Also wrong, and it will be proven Wednesday.   ;)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 25-06-2012, 17:06:39
I think Germany - Italy might go either way.
Italy wasn't too impressive vs England, I'd say the Germans would dominate it as they did the Greeks.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 25-06-2012, 17:06:01
Entertainment value?

It was 0-0 for 120 minutes. And lopsided. Nothing fun in that game
and THERE your american eagerness and hunger for points/goals shows :)

0-0 does not equal boring game. This game was one of  the best 0-0  games I've seen. Despite no goals being scored, there was constant action! Never a dull moment with chances that all were on the verge of going in, and both teams had those chances, making it feel like the  game really could  go any way.

Sorry Moose, but I just can't comprehend how you can say that the game was boring

Watching england give away the ball every chance they get to hold onto it, then watching italy have 70 percent of possession, and not be able to do anything. I have loved 0-0 draws before. But this game, it was just sad. Maybe because i was cheering for england and they were disgraceful. But yeah, boring game.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 25-06-2012, 18:06:44
But this game, it was just sad. Maybe because i was cheering for england and they were disgraceful.
Ah, so this is the reason. I already thought so ;)

But yeah, boring game.
And actually this is about England too, right?

My bets are on Germany-Spain in the final, with a win for Germany. But I don't really care if Spain doesn't make it to the final. Becausue I disagree with Natty, not all teams which are left are boring. Just Spain.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Natty on 25-06-2012, 18:06:36
dont care anymore.... world cup in brazil might be more fun than just being a transport towards seeing these old boring 4 teams in the semi's.. *yawn!*  :P

then again, there arent really many teams outside of europe that have a chance, except brazil...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 25-06-2012, 18:06:46
dont care anymore.... world cup in brazil might be more fun than just being a transport towards seeing these old boring 4 teams in the semi's.. *yawn!*  :P

then again, there arent really many teams outside of europe that have a chance, except brazil...

Natty have you ever played football or watch it on a regular basis, because your knowledge of it is equal to my 12 year niece.   ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Smiles on 25-06-2012, 22:06:23
Ive played football and watch the ec and wc + el and cl and im sure your niece knows more than i do!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: blue on 25-06-2012, 22:06:02
I think Germany - Italy might go either way.
Italy wasn't too impressive vs England, I'd say the Germans would dominate it as they did the Greeks.

This is not the best Italian team, but they are much much better than Greece. Germany also had lapses against Greece. I still think Germany will win, but I do not think it will be any kind of domination.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Natty on 25-06-2012, 22:06:13
Natty have you ever played football or watch it on a regular basis, because your knowledge of it is equal to my 12 year niece.   ;D

"knowledge"?  lol...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_FIFA_World_Cup_finals


pretty much only european teams in the top 3 the last 50 years, except some occasional brazil and argentina

*yawn*
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 25-06-2012, 22:06:59
I think it won't be too easy for Spain vs Portugal. Portugal can definitely beat Spain. Their defense is very good and the Portugese players are not that pussy players. If they go for bone breaker style tacklings and play aggressive enough, Spain might get problems.

I got a new team on my hatelist with Spain. These guys make me aggressive when I see them diving over and over again. Seriously, it's a tactic of their game. They usually don't loose the ball and if they do the poor little Spanish boy falls to the ground and they get the free kick. It's a joke. I hope Portugal fucks them up, mad Pepe vs those Barca and Spanish players => Bonebreaker. I seriously got enough of that Barbie football.

Furthermore I don't want the Germany vs Spain final again. I have no doubt that we will win vs Italy.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Natty on 25-06-2012, 22:06:50
hoping for spain vs germany anyway, and german victory, but it really doesnt matter at all.. if germany loses against italy I probably wont watch the finals at all.. dont want to see a huge smiling Ronaldo or Torres cash in the 1st place *yuack*
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 25-06-2012, 22:06:51
Ive played football and watch the ec and wc + el and cl and im sure your niece knows more than i do!

Then she probably does.

hoping for spain vs germany anyway, and german victory, but it really doesnt matter at all.. if germany loses against italy I probably wont watch the finals at all.. dont want to see a huge smiling Ronaldo or Torres cash in the 1st place *yuack*

You sound like my girlfriend talking about football.

AHAHAHA
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 25-06-2012, 23:06:49
really Randoom, chill out :P

Everyone can't be equally into football. In every game, wether it is a club-game in the austrian 2nd league, or the World Cup, there will be people following just the big games; the huge extravaganza that is football. The remaining 11 months of the year they never watch a game.
I'm not reffering to anyone in these boards, as I really have no idea how much anyone here follow football, but just stating that people do that.

Judge them if you wish, but do it while ignoring them. (that's what I do, unless facing a Barca supporter who have watched 2 Barcelona games the last 4 years).



Edit: For the record, I agree with Natty in that I'd hate to see Torres kissing the trophy. Not that it will stop me from watching the biggest game of the last 2 years. I've only missed 1 game of the EC so far, I don't plan to miss another one.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Fuchs on 25-06-2012, 23:06:09
I never watch football. Except for the World and Euro Cup, since I like the nation vs nation thing. But hey, Germany-Spain final is something I expect, which is lame since that's the same as in 2008. Right? I wish England would have won, would have been a cool underdog winner.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Schneider on 25-06-2012, 23:06:30
German national players in a nutshell:

(http://img.pr0gramm.com/2012/06/1340573634013.gif)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 26-06-2012, 00:06:18
Alright, Ronaldo and Nani vs Spain.

Also wrong, and it will be proven Wednesday.   ;)

Lol  ;D


Don't get me wrong tho, i want Portugal to beat Spain.

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 26-06-2012, 16:06:36
What? They have Pepe and Coentrão as well!

But can't say much for their midfield though... I really really hope that Portugal win.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Fuchs on 26-06-2012, 16:06:30
German national players in a nutshell:

(http://img.pr0gramm.com/2012/06/1340573634013.gif)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJ0uIKjommQ

They are too happy, watch this. Though I do hope Germany wins in the end now England is out.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 26-06-2012, 17:06:17
Perhaps England is the only team who relies too much on its reputation to scare their opponents and win the game by intimidation. Judging from their 2002-2012 track record in international competition alone, they're not any better than South Korea.

I mean look at that, they even played HESKEY!!! Emile Heskey!

And while at it, what do you think of Michael Ballack? Too many people said that he could have been German's next Kaiser at that time. But how well does he fare?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 26-06-2012, 17:06:47
hey South Korea's pretty good...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WK2Or9NB04A

that Kim Bo-Kyoung guy is class
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 26-06-2012, 18:06:27
Yeah they are promisin, but I still doubt Asian football performances outside their domain. The South Koreans had the French with Zidane tied to 1-1 back in WC2006, but then losing 1-4 to Argentina in WC2010.

When we look down further to my own national football team. Well, probably they have the most fanatic and craziest supporter around, but their performance is... just as expected. The governing bodies is full of political motives and can't never get their act straight (there are even 2 competing leagues now, the un-sanctioned ones also comprised of many talented players that are not allowed to join the national team).
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Natty on 26-06-2012, 18:06:50
You sound like my girlfriend talking about football.

And you sound like one of those nerds you always catch in a pub/bar that shows football on big screen, those guys who just sits quiet and thinks they "get the game" more than everyone else.
And when people get excited over something in the game, they shrug and gives each other the "they don't understand this game" looks to each other

understands football LOL, I love those guys, they're hilarious!

Football and other huge events have that effect on people, always there are some who invests a bit too much emotion in to it, and become grandiose in its context. "I care about this so much so that my opinions about it is worth more than others"

It's funny, because it so clearly proves humans psychological weakness, and is a schoolbook example of how mass-suggestion works :)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 26-06-2012, 18:06:27
Did you just analized Football ? And im the nerd ?

AHAHAHA 

Awesome stuff.

Please continue.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Sgt.KAR98 on 26-06-2012, 19:06:13
About asian football,I would say Japan is getting better every day since Zico.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 26-06-2012, 19:06:28
I think I know the sentiment. You'll look football differently if you ever play in a pro or semi-pro tournament (at least a sanctioned game).

Pro sport TV spectators is BS, including their analysis. All of our opinion can't never be accurate enough to be matter. In short, if one never been a player, coach, manager, or part of a real football team. They can't be called experts, even if they show up on ESPN or prime time football talk shows.

But that shouldn't prevent us from talking our BS about the subject through, should us RanDOOM? After all we love the sport anyway.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 26-06-2012, 19:06:49
Offcourse not. Im not saying the opposite.

Everyone it entitled to their own opinion, some are just funnier then others.  ;)

My prediction for tomorrow:

Portugal 1 x 0 Spain
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Fuchs on 26-06-2012, 19:06:40
My prediction for tomorrow: Spain 4 - 2 Belgium
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 26-06-2012, 19:06:58
Can't decide who's winning yet. Even the entire Portugal and Spain team members and officials. Got to go down to the field and feel it as Bento or Casillas see it.

All I can say is, it won't be boring despite how Spain usually plays.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 26-06-2012, 19:06:34
And you sound like one of those nerds you always catch in a pub/bar that shows football on big screen, those guys who just sits quiet and thinks they "get the game" more than everyone else.

I'm a little bit like that, in a different way though.

Randoom teases you for no reason, you just stated your hopes. You have a very negative look on those football nerds though. There are people like that, but most are not.

Most people (including me) just get annoyed when there are people that for example just watch football at the Euros or WCC and feel like the lifetime football fans and especially football experts, while discussing how offside works among each other 2 minutes later. Well, I don't even get mad, it's just *facepalm* sometimes.

Another thing is that when I go for watching football with my mates, we don't just go to the bar to watch football, we want to discuss those things, make bets and want to see our opinion to be confirmed right after the game. We like to agree or disagree on how well actions have been played and who makes a really good job. That's a big attraction about watching football to us. We are definitely some kind of football nerds, but I don't think that the emotions we put in it are something negative. There are people that act as you described, but that's the minority.

So we don't dislike the people that are not interested in football, we dislike people that pretend to be experts. We don't consider ourselves as experts, but when you invest a lot of time in something, you automatically get experience about how football. That does not make us experts, its usually just the basis for the discussions.

Golden rule: Everyone is free to have hopes and a personal opinion as long as it's founded and that person is open for discussing it like in every debate. If this is not the case you are allowed to discredit the persons opinion, that's simply the way it works and not just football related.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 26-06-2012, 21:06:40
And you sound like one of those nerds you always catch in a pub/bar that shows football on big screen, those guys who just sits quiet and thinks they "get the game" more than everyone else.

I'm a little bit like that, in a different way though.

Randoom teases you for no reason, you just stated your hopes. You have a very negative look on those football nerds though. There are people like that, but most are not.

Most people (including me) just get annoyed when there are people that for example just watch football at the Euros or WCC and feel like the lifetime football fans and especially football experts, while discussing how offside works among each other 2 minutes later. Well, I don't even get mad, it's just *facepalm* sometimes.

Another thing is that when I go for watching football with my mates, we don't just go to the bar to watch football, we want to discuss those things, make bets and want to see our opinion to be confirmed right after the game. We like to agree or disagree on how well actions have been played and who makes a really good job. That's a big attraction about watching football to us. We are definitely some kind of football nerds, but I don't think that the emotions we put in it are something negative. There are people that act as you described, but that's the minority.

So we don't dislike the people that are not interested in football, we dislike people that pretend to be experts. We don't consider ourselves as experts, but when you invest a lot of time in something, you automatically get experience about how football. That does not make us experts, its usually just the basis for the discussions.

Golden rule: Everyone is free to have hopes and a personal opinion as long as it's founded and that person is open for discussing it like in every debate. If this is not the case you are allowed to discredit the persons opinion, that's simply the way it works and not just football related.

Good post.

Having played football since i was 9 and being professional for 3 years in the later stages i have to agree with some of your statements.

Football is about passion and i get carried way sometimes, so i apologize for some of the statements i had previously.

 8)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: SiCaRiO on 26-06-2012, 21:06:54
Well its not the first time Natty talks about something he has no idea  ;D

On topic. I predict 5-0 in favor of spain, followed by a sea of "buuu borong!" coments :3.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Natty on 26-06-2012, 22:06:37
Did you just analized Football ? And im the nerd ?

naah, football doesn't matter in the context I was talking about. I fry way bigger fish. It could be anything; music, religion, politics, theatres, games...  ::), football, hockey... etc etc.... people are so simple and easily overwhelmed by all these, turning them in to something about them
("I watched this band live before their first demo came out, and now they have three platinum records out and are selling out stadiums, I am more important for them than anyone else here, I know them better!)
("I played this game 1000 hours and have a clan, the devs should listen to me!")

It's in peoples nature to convert anything they invest a lot of time in, to be about them. It's kind of cute, and predictable, and humans arent really strong enough to withstand mass-suggestions. That's why all the religions exist, it simply wasn't possible for people to resist falling in to the suggestion that the churches empowered them in to. ("Follow these commands and you will go to heaven", obviously the followers of those commands will start to add values on to them, and preach them to others. Because by preaching it to others, they enforce the legality of their own choices)

You might wanna put the telly on and watch some football instead of reading this, it's simpler. The ball goas in to the cage-net, the team that puts the ball there the most times, win. :) Now why you are judging other peoples opinion about that, is something you may or may not think about later in life. In the mean time, enjoy the game 8)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 26-06-2012, 22:06:46
("I played this game 1000 hours and have a clan, the devs should listen to me!")

Hey, this is my quotation!!!  :P
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 27-06-2012, 00:06:43
Wow.... really Natty ?!

I get the feeling this is the first real football discussion you had.... ever..

Got nothing agaisnt you, and you know me from Forgotten Honor way back, but just a small advice regarding your statements, please review what you have written these past 2 years because all of your answers about any subject or topic are always the same in a overall view....
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 27-06-2012, 00:06:53
RAnDOOm, 3 years as a professional, where?.


I take football very seriously, i understand when people get angry when talking about football, it's like Politics.

You need to play a good number of football matches in order to fully understand what is football about, i've been trough a lot fights with my best friends because we didn't agree on something while playing a match.



Football is more than a sport.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 27-06-2012, 02:06:34
Once again, I quote Liverpool legend Bill Shankley

"Some people believe football is a matter of life and death, I am very disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more important than that"
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 27-06-2012, 02:06:47
The perspective of an audience is very different from a player. I usually go to my audience mode when talking about football. If you have the passion, you should try to join some semi-pro or amateur competition.

Got to experience the feeling when you change gear in the room, get to know whether you're in the lineup or bench. Then the same annoying tense every time you step down into the same freaking grass, which always feels different from time to time. They just never feels too right, either too wet or too dry.

In a competition, there is always a team with only one famous player you and your mates know, but performs surprisingly good. Then there are those who consisted of some of your teammate's acquaintances, which they think are good enough and cheered for. But struggling hopelessly like WC2002 France.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: DLFReporter on 27-06-2012, 08:06:38
....
Football is more than a sport.

Sex is more than a sport. Football... meh 20 men kicking a poor ol' big ball around. ^^
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 27-06-2012, 10:06:21
Sex is more than a sport. Football... meh 20 men kicking a poor ol' big ball around. ^^
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_uHBvg_nh4



"I love football. I love the aesthetics of football. I love the athleticism of football. I love the movement of the players, the antics of the coaches. I love the dynamism of the fans. I love their passion for their badge and the colour of their team and their country. I love the noise and the buzz and the electricity in the stadium. I love the songs. I love the way the ball moves and then it flows and the way a teams fortune rises and falls through a game and through a season. But what I love about football that it brings people together across religious divides, geographic divides, political divides. I love the fact that for ninety minutes in a rectangular piece of grass, people can forget hopefully, whatever might be going on in their life, rejoice in this communal celebration of humanity. The biggest diverse, invasive or pervasive culture that human kinds knows is football and I love the fact that at the altar of football human kind can come worship and celebrate."

 - Former Newcastle player Andy Harper.

Don't tell me football is not more than a sport.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 27-06-2012, 11:06:50
RAnDOOm, 3 years as a professional, where?.

Lower division here in Portugal.  8 years ago.   ;)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: DLFReporter on 27-06-2012, 11:06:10
Sorry Ted, but I believe that Andy Harper has never seen what fans really do to each other before and after a game. The harmony and celebration he sees is mostly due to fenced off fan blocks. ^^

You could say the same thing about any other sport, a movie in a cinema, a concert or whatever. They're mostly also 90min long and people watching can forget whatever might be going on in their life, rejoice in this communal celebration of humanity. ^^
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 27-06-2012, 12:06:18
The beauty of football is that everyone around the world, no matter how poor they are can play.

All you need is a ball (of any description) and literally anything can be used as a goal. Not many other sports can claim this simplicity.

This is why the sport is beloved across the world. It is so accessible to play, the rules are so simple but the game is amazingly fluid and full of self expression.

"Football is a part of I, when I play the world wakes up around me" - Bob Marley
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 27-06-2012, 14:06:18
But there are no other team sport games like football. You don't need to impose a lot of silly rules to make a goal scoring become an awesome moment.

A touch down might be a rare event, but as rare as it might seems, I managed to did that just by being stupid bystander in a rugby game, my marker was fixed on the ball, he didn't see me. People ignored me, so I ran close to the remaining yard, the QB saw me, and managed to throw a good pass. In another time, we brute-strength through all opposition. The wingers are big tough guys, so it was like a controlled brawl there.

I never scored any goals in any amateur tournaments (sanctioned by FIFA licensed referees). A huge amount of time we spent was in practice games and drills, not the actual games. There I scored some goals, it never cease to be something more than just a beautiful moment.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 27-06-2012, 15:06:47
The football is definitely the most popular sport in the world. When somebody scores a goal for his nation team he becomes a hero. Obviously in other sports also becomes, but not with such popularity. I could feel like a hero when I was 10 years old. My class and other went on school holidays for 3 weeks (we call it "green school") and there we were playing football. At the beginning colleagues didn't want me in the team - they didn't believe that I could have any skills. But, when our school had to play a match against another they took me into the team. We were loosing 0-1 and I scored a goal!!!  ;D It was amazing feeling when everybody was congratulating me this goal and even long time after the match, because the final score was 1-1. I could feel like a hero, after this, there wasn't such situation when so many people were so happy that I scored a goal. After this they always took me into the team and I thank them by scoring more goals in some other minor matches!  ;)

Edit: So, I can't imagine myself playing in such tournament like Euro - I would probably shit into pants while the whole world is watching me...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 27-06-2012, 17:06:35
On topic. I predict 5-0 in favor of spain, followed by a sea of "buuu borong!" coments :3.
Well, if that happens, those comments will not come from me. I love football, and when Spain scores 5 times, they surely can't have played as boring as until now. So then I will cheer for them, as they have made the game attractive to watch again.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 27-06-2012, 17:06:21
I never thought that I'd ever say this but I hope Ronaldo has a good day and I also hope those Spanish divers feel Pepe's steel studs in their knees and experience what a real foul is ( Sorry dear moralizers but they need to learn a lesson. I don't want them get to the finals with their pussy play, I also don't want them to be injured, i just want to see them falling to the ground when they are fouled and not 2 seconds before someone can touch them.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 27-06-2012, 17:06:56
So you want Spain to be given a moral lesson by Portugal of all countries?

Both as bad as each other.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: SiCaRiO on 27-06-2012, 18:06:44
hahahaha

oh the hatez, tonight is gonna be FUN  ;D


(back to studying :C....)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 27-06-2012, 19:06:17
It's funny that when I was complaining about Spanish diving back in 2010, I was called a sore loser. Now everyone except the Spanish does it.

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: SiCaRiO on 27-06-2012, 20:06:44
hmm, new dilema:

I kinda want ronaldo to score 4 goals, and see how the RM fanbase here will react to that :P
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Natty on 27-06-2012, 22:06:46
Wow.... really Natty ?!

I get the feeling this is the first real football discussion you had.... ever..

that is because you think I was discussing football :) which I was not, I was merely saying football isnt exactly hard to "get" (which you stated by saying we/I dont understand it, or have "knowledge")

My point was simply: people are simple, and get a bit too involved in things emotionally. it's not like anyone cares about the euro championship 2 months from now, but when the ball flies towards the goal, we all choke and scream :) I do it too, it's a very strong present experience. It is strong mass suggestion which we all volunteerly fall in to. It reduces stress to feel as part of a whole, it is meditative to focus on a single action. That is why I made the connection to religion, it hits on the same spots in our brains. (same reward system receptors, same feeling of belonging, same feeling of purpose)

I like watching big events like the WC and the EC, even some other events like CL matches are fun, but really... football? It's nothing to argue or discuss or fight over, and sincerely; it's not worth judging other peoples opinion about it, it's just a game, and everyone "gets it".

about the current game... 0-0 still and I hope Spain loses, then I want germany to win tomorrow, then Germany win against portugal. Please make it so oh dear god of football
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Natty on 27-06-2012, 22:06:11
Im not even going to watch the overtime... zzzzzz boring teams
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: NTH on 27-06-2012, 22:06:18
Sex is more than a sport. Football... meh 20 men kicking a poor ol' big ball around. ^^
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_uHBvg_nh4



"I love football. I love the aesthetics of football. I love the athleticism of football. I love the movement of the players, the antics of the coaches. I love the dynamism of the fans. I love their passion for their badge and the colour of their team and their country. I love the noise and the buzz and the electricity in the stadium. I love the songs. I love the way the ball moves and then it flows and the way a teams fortune rises and falls through a game and through a season. But what I love about football that it brings people together across religious divides, geographic divides, political divides. I love the fact that for ninety minutes in a rectangular piece of grass, people can forget hopefully, whatever might be going on in their life, rejoice in this communal celebration of humanity. The biggest diverse, invasive or pervasive culture that human kinds knows is football and I love the fact that at the altar of football human kind can come worship and celebrate."

 - Former Newcastle player Andy Harper.

Don't tell me football is not more than a sport.
Sounds like you would love flag waving patriotism ;)
What is up with the Torres hating here. You wanna hate someone take the laddie that switches hairstyle during halftime
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: SiCaRiO on 27-06-2012, 22:06:52
INIESTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaa D:
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Schneider on 27-06-2012, 23:06:58
And Spain wins the EURO, again.  :-\
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: SiCaRiO on 27-06-2012, 23:06:30
And thats how you win againts a more rested team, ATTRITION BABY
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 27-06-2012, 23:06:14
And Spain wins the EURO, again.  :-\

You don't fancy the Germans? Spain looked really tired.

The game didn't even get going till the 80th minute, Portugal were brave in their approach and I commend them for that when you contrast it with England's cowardly tactics.

Ronaldo did nothing and has had an absolute shocker picking himself as 5th penalty taker. He should have been there taking the first one.

Well played Spain though, even when they are not at their best they can still grind out results.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 27-06-2012, 23:06:30
What a boring match... Spain doesn't deserved to win the cup... With 1 shot on target during 90 min?! In the final they will be crushed by Germans!!!  :)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 27-06-2012, 23:06:49
We first have to win vs Italy. Italy is weaker, but we all have 2006 semi finals in mind. Back then Italy was the better team though. Anyway, I think we're going to win, but it's probably gonna be a close game as well. But our team should have the self confidence since they are the best team at the moment and can definitely beat Spain. I first was angry that Spain won, but know I really hope we make it to the finals and show Spain how to play football properly.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: TuscanGangster on 28-06-2012, 00:06:16
I'm obviously pleased about the fact that my team passed to the final, but what pisses me off is some people over my damn city who right after the victory started making an annoyingly load of noise and what is worse is that they kept screaming 'SIEG HEIL' over the streets (yeah, and doing the fascist salute I forgot to mention) and hitting everything they could just to look for attention. Next time I hear those pair of words combined with that senseless salute I will throw an apple, an egg or whatever I find in the fridge. Glad that they're too few anyway.

And about all of you who seem not to like Spain, they aren't anything close to boring for me... I think that you really don't watch the matches, obviously the match against France was boring but tiring your own team while your rival is being weak wouldn't really be the best option (and even less when you have less rest ahead the next match)... our would it? There were a lot of goal ocassions for both teams and it was a completely breathtaking and entertaining match. I loved it. :)

(Or I may simply have a different taste, which could be that haha)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Gluntz on 28-06-2012, 00:06:46
Germans ! Hello again !!  ;D


Germany deserved to win and win to Italy without problems. Good luck with Italy

See you on Sunday  ;)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 28-06-2012, 00:06:51
There were a lot of goal ocassions for both teams and it was a completely breathtaking and entertaining match. I loved it. :)

(Or I may simply have a different taste, which could be that haha)
A lot? Yes, when you only watched extra time maybe. I was fooled by Spain again: they weren't gonna do anything directed at the goal of their opponent. There was one save after 90 minutes. ONE!!

There is something terrible going pn right now: there is a team which absolutely refuses to make the game attractive for people all over the world and especially fot those who pay A LOT to get into the stadiums. Yes, of course winning is nice and cool and I'd love to see my team being able to do that: winning. But I want to have fun too, it is supposed to be "entertainment". Well, this isn't. GOALS is what makes footrball cool to watch and that's what is lacking totally.

I propose a new rule for semifinals and matches like that: we play 90 minutes. When it is euqal score after that, the team which has scored the most goals before that match wins. Boredom will die soon.

I sinecrely hope games will get more attractive again.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: SiCaRiO on 28-06-2012, 01:06:10
well they entretain us, the guys wabing flags at Madrid and celebrating the victories,thats good enought, the rest can go suck a spanish serrano ham  ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 28-06-2012, 01:06:16
Ah Spanish fans, they remember their national team now because "we play gud football"... wait a few more years, when Spain becomes a rather mediocre football team.


I wanted Portugal to win, but Ronaldo has proven himself once again, HE IS A WALKING FREEZER.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 28-06-2012, 02:06:54
Luckily I didn't watch it last night. Good thing that it will lower their rating. Entertainment no more.

Might as well skip the final, because it has Spain in it. Bunch of attention-crazy boys, "oh look at me camera! Shot me while I'm dribbling this ball!"
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 28-06-2012, 04:06:21
Watching Boca vs Corinthians Libertadores Final.

I'm one step close to stop watching South American football. The Brazilian guy here will surely know why. Boca fixed this match, it's a long story.

Its a mafia, orchestrated by Julio Grondona, FIFA Vice-President, the man who has been in charge of AFA for over 30 years, the man who shook hands with the biggest Argentine dictators of all time, the man that made Racing Club's life impossible, the man that created a club from nowhere, named it arsenal and also fixed everything to be the latest champion in Argentina.

I'm sick of our football, it's all about passion, but its hard to be a fan of a club like Racing Club, Grondona's favorite victim, 35 years without winning a single local title, thanks to him, 2 years in Second Division because thanks to him, nearly dissapearing in 1999/2000 thanks to him (Something like that happened to Rangers FC), playing against a Second Division team in order to avoid relegation in 2008, thanks to him, but we won that match, thanks to god.

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 28-06-2012, 08:06:38
Another dull game. Thank you spain for making me want to sleep. Can't wait to see the germans tomorrow and hopefully see them dominate the shitty Italians
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 28-06-2012, 09:06:57
Watching Boca vs Corinthians Libertadores Final.

I'm one step close to stop watching South American football. The Brazilian guy here will surely know why. Boca fixed this match, it's a long story.

Its a mafia, orchestrated by Julio Grondona, FIFA Vice-President, the man who has been in charge of AFA for over 30 years, the man who shook hands with the biggest Argentine dictators of all time, the man that made Racing Club's life impossible, the man that created a club from nowhere, named it arsenal and also fixed everything to be the latest champion in Argentina.

I'm sick of our football, it's all about passion, but its hard to be a fan of a club like Racing Club, Grondona's favorite victim, 35 years without winning a single local title, thanks to him, 2 years in Second Division because thanks to him, nearly dissapearing in 1999/2000 thanks to him (Something like that happened to Rangers FC), playing against a Second Division team in order to avoid relegation in 2008, thanks to him, but we won that match, thanks to god.

Yeah in Argentina, it's mostly about populist agenda. No wonder if any politicians want to become popular, they got to get hold at the most popular source of attention there: football. I never heard about this Arsenal club, but they won the league anyway. What the heck was that for? It's a sport and entertainment. They need to keep their dirty hands out of something like football. But back then, I almost believed Chievo's achievement back in 2001 was rather fixed/calciopoli than a real miraculous performance by Manfredini/Luciano (Eriberto)/Corradi. But we never know. I sometimes love and hate surprise at the same time, I just need to know whether they are real or not.

Well, I know that some of us still valued sportsmanship above all. That's why I never become instantly enraged when my favourite club losing.

Argentinians are still lucky that they have decent team and able to perform relatively well in the International Competition. But I am ashamed to speak of my own national team and especially, its supporters. The supporters are instant-nationalists wannabe and fanatic idiots who can't understand football to the basics (like there has got to be one winner and one loser). They are in contrast with Irish supporters, who are just there to enjoy the moment and watching their comrades play.  Moreover, our association (PSSI, similar to Argentina's AFA) is corrupt as hell and our government (well, politicians) meddled too much in that business, risking a punishment from FIFA.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Smiles on 28-06-2012, 11:06:48
People have gone so far claiming football as their own, paying tickets and complaining about the outcome watching a match and complaining it takes to long to end. You mad lol ???
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: DLFReporter on 28-06-2012, 11:06:04
Exactly my thoughts . ^^
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Natty on 28-06-2012, 14:06:07
People have gone so far claiming football as their own, paying tickets and complaining about the outcome watching a match and complaining it takes to long to end. You mad lol ???

text in red exactly what I meant for randoom... they make it too personally because the medium is so strong, they absorb it with their entire personality. Just like religion works, and tbh, how games work as well (I am a battlefield players. As opposed to I like playing the game Battlefield)

Then the trolls on the forum who takes it even further, believing the makers of the game "owe" them something.. dude, you're a freaking customer. The game devs owe you about as much as the producers of bread owes you something for eating their bread at breakfast. At football, you're the audience. the game hasn't got anything to do with you, just as little as "Prometheus" has got anything to do with you for sitting in the cinema eating popcorn and watching it
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 28-06-2012, 14:06:02
While I agree with much of Randooms thoughts, I don't like his methods (I've learnt the hard way to ignore people who have a different opinion on football than me).
But I definitely need to confront this:
At football, you're the audience. the game hasn't got anything to do with you
First of all, I'm assuming with "the game" you mean the actual game that is played (and not the phenomenon Football).

Either way, you are absolutely wrong. There is no way you can compare watching a football game with watching a movie at a cinema. With watching, I mean being at the arena, standing among the other fans singing.

If that still is what you believe, I refretfully have to side with Randoom. You shouldn't speak up about something you know so little about. As a die hard supporter of the swedish club AIK (which you undoubtedly know of) I do make a difference whenever I go to a game. We sing, we support the team and mentally destroy some weaker-minded opponents. I do know how much the support of the home-supporters can inspire and ignite the players, having watched games which were boycotted by fans, I have clearly seen a difference.
I want to bring up the fact that me and 9999 others have payed 150€ to be able to watch all the games. The incomes from that are really important for the clubs. But then again, you also pay to watch a movie at a cinema (even though the movie attracts a vastly larger audience).

In club football (at least in sweden) there is a rule that at least 51% of the club is to be owned by the members of the club (= the supporters). As a member, the club does owe me something. I get to vote on important decisions in the club. I want some result of that committment. I'm not just a customer.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kubador on 28-06-2012, 16:06:14
Gonna be there tonight! Yeeehaw.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 28-06-2012, 16:06:15
Good post Ted.

See, I would describe you as a supporter. You go to watch your team on a regular basis, win or lose, you are actively involved in its footballing community and, despite what anyone else may say, you are a definite member of the 'club'. Without you and your fellow supporters the club would not be the same.

Natty on the other hand, from what I have read, sounds like a fan. A fan may like a certain team, follow them on television occasionally or even own a shirt. However, that's about as deep as his involvement in the club may go. Their participation in these activities does have a role to play financially but other than that the club does not depend upon them for any other purposes.

BTW, I wish we could have all been supporters of Prometheus. We could have intervened before Ridley tacked that 'ending' on. Oh dear....
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 28-06-2012, 18:06:33
Nice prometheus insert bahaha.

Also the spain game had more cards than shots  :o
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 28-06-2012, 19:06:08
Well Chadoi, Natty isn't a fan, but rather a casual audience IMO. It is perfectly fine, nothing wrong, it's not a sin at all for anyone to make a comment about football. Because it is up to everyone if they have a say about a thing. And I normally don't weigh people's opinion equally. You know, kinda like "you don't go to a quack to seek prescriptions." I might took Rawhide's, Torenico's, Randoom's or Ted's opinion on football seriously, because I know they are a dedicated football fans and has been following the sport passionately. But some other people... Well it depends.

Business wise, well that's pretty much what he thinks about customer's feedback. Poor analogy however, because if we don't like a baker, we could probably go to another down the street. But EA and Activision keep purchasing smaller game developers, absorbing their competitors. Your hope for alternatives probably ended 2-3 years before it could go on or took off.

It's different to let's say Boeing or Airbus. Despite being nearly monopolistic, oligopoly competition model, they still make their products based on customer's input. And they make some serious stuff. However, when a company that makes toy games could have the audacity to diss it's customer's opinion. That is a pretty bold move compared to the whole Apple Company innovation hype.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Natty on 28-06-2012, 19:06:11
Movie companies have mad fans as well, of course Prometheus got insane funding based on all the "die-hard" fans who over the last 35 years have bought Alien merchandise and madly supported the Alien franchise. So in one way, the fans of Alien and Prometheus have supported to coming of Prometheus just as much as football supporters support the team's economy, helping them to acquire new players and by so climb in the leagues.

Indeed, but randooms statement sounded more as if his opinion - or football supporters / flagwavers - matter more just because they pay money to go to every match....

and by the way, what "opinion" are we talking about here? What does it matter what you "think" of a game? Ronaldo misses a bunch of free-kicks against Spain (and one chance in a 4v2 situation near the end) what does it matter what anyone "thinks" about this?

That's when it gets taken out of its context, what happens on the field, happens. and those action do not belong to a die-hard club-supporter more than a random TV watcher who bored looks at the game while scratching his balls.

"But EA and Activision keep purchasing smaller game developers, absorbing their competitors" Just like teams by other players, to become better. No difference. It's business. Money rules and if you don't see that, you're blind.

Anyway, back on topic. Im excited over GER v ITA, hoping to see the 'talians get their butts smacked, and then germany pwning Torres and his cryboys in the final. THEN, I will get my hopes back for some interesting WC in 2014. If Spain wins however, I'll probably won't watch football until Westham starts playing in PL next season. 8)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Gezoes on 28-06-2012, 20:06:46
One can't even tell this is a football thread anymore, yawn.

As for last night, boring. Hoping for a nice match tonight. Spain will probably win their third tournament anyway.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 28-06-2012, 21:06:17
I have a feeling that Germany is going home!   ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 28-06-2012, 21:06:44
I have to say that Mario Balotelli always cracks me up

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-oHONmJpWZlA/TzkBYU085tI/AAAAAAAAANk/hh6O8TUhm9U/s1600/super-mario-man-city.jpg)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Natty on 28-06-2012, 21:06:07
.........what's happening....  ??? I almost dont dare continue watching this  :-X
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Sgt.KAR98 on 28-06-2012, 21:06:29
Yesterday game was amazing.Romarinho saved the night!The boy is young,had just some minor matches and made the difference one minute after he entered the game!!!
I noticed Boca Juniors isn't no Barcelona,as I (or we) thought.Too bad I recently started to support them.

About Euro,Balotelli is really drawing attention!And for a good reason,not a bad one (aka Felipe Melo).
His second goal was epic,and his celebration was even more! (no,I'm hetero...)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 28-06-2012, 22:06:07
Sorry if I sounded quite elitist in my previous post. Every level of fan is welcomed at most football clubs and I'm happy that as many people as possible can enjoy the beautiful game!  ;)

I love Balotelli, such a personality. Doesn't football need these characters so much?!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Schneider on 28-06-2012, 22:06:13
Well, it's all coming how I imagined it would, that's why I wrote yesterday that Spain will win the Euro again.

At last, it's a bit lucky for Italy, but in the end it's Löw's mistake.
Bringing a Gomez, who is technically vastly inferior and not able to keep up the excellent passing game which gives the german team its strength against tough and close defending Italians, which does not allow him to play his "I'll wait in the box and kick the ball in as soon as it happens to find my feet"-game, is bad enough.

But playing Podolski all the time is a disgrace. You have talented, strong technical players on the bench, and Podolski plays AGAIN AND AGAIN, since 2006. He has virtually no playing intelligence, his passing game is sloppy, his movement off the ball is hardly visible and his defensive play is literally non-existant. He might well be the worst player in the whole german squad.

I wonder if Tim Wiese could play worse on the left flank.

I guess not. Löw is a good coach overall, but this is something he has been doing over and over, and Podolski, although he scored a goal, hasn't played otherwise than he did today in the matches so far, in all the matches since 2010, actually. The only thing he has on his side is an excellent shooting technique, hats off. But that's simply not enough, he is like a foreign particle in the german play.

Man, this is annoying, even though I supposed this to happen.
Only plus: We don't lose against Spain in the finals, as we would have otherwise.  ;)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Natty on 28-06-2012, 22:06:17
turned the TV off in the 85th minute. Im not watching the finals of this EC *sigh*

Brazil WC 2014 here we go...  :P
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 28-06-2012, 22:06:03
turned the TV off in the 85th minute. Im not watching the finals of this EC *sigh*

Brazil WC 2014 here we go...  :P

Finally.... its about time...

Italy could have won this 4 - 0 very easily.

Expected result. Total domination by Italy.
(http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb301/djsleeperhit/ForzaItalia09.jpg)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Butcher on 28-06-2012, 22:06:27
Italy had those 2 lucky moments after that it was standing in the back - as always. Don´t want to sound like a sore loser but great football looks different. The 2nd half of the game was almost entirely in the italian half and the referee didn´t give the usual extra minute after a penalty. "Total domination" looks different.

What were the corners? 14 Germany, 0 Italy?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 28-06-2012, 22:06:28
Very sorry to derail the thread momentarily from the game, but I have a very pertinent question.

Ok, so I was invited by some friends to spend the weekend at a lake house, which I would like to do because of the fun and drinking and such that that entails. 

But as my friends are silly Americans, they didn't know that the Euro final was Sunday.  Now I am in a dilemma, so does anyone know of any ways that I can stream the final live on my android?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Gezoes on 28-06-2012, 22:06:50
/Googles to Bild

"Wir weinen!"

Trauma time! ;D

Italy was way better, they deserve it. Nice match. Bit tricky at the end, but they made it.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 28-06-2012, 22:06:24
Italy had those 2 lucky moments after that it was standing in the back - as always. Don´t want to sound like a sore loser but great football looks different. The 2nd half of the game was almost entirely in the italian half and the referee didn´t give the usual extra minute after a penalty. "Total domination" looks different.

What were the corners? 14 Germany, 0 Italy?

Have ball possession or corners in your favour does not mean that you are dominating the game, sometimes is the complete opposite. Italy style of playing is that they concede the ball to the opponent.

Football is about goal scoring opportunities. German had 1 Italy had  7.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 28-06-2012, 23:06:45
Have ball possession or corners in your favour does not mean that you are dominating the game, sometimes is the complete opposite. Italy style of playing is that they concede the ball to the opponent.

Football is about goal scoring opportunities. German had 1 Italy had  7.
This.
Italy had full control of the game, germany were really bad. They had some opportunities late in the second half (but so had Italy) but they simple couldn't do anything with them. Reus did a good job though during his 45 minutes.
Italy scored 2 goals, then didn't take any unnecessary risks. Germany were unable to break through them. And italy maintained there incredibly high-pressure, german players weren't allowed to hold the ball for 2 seconds before an italian were on him trying to win it back.


But as my friends are silly Americans, they didn't know that the Euro final was Sunday.  Now I am in a dilemma, so does anyone know of any ways that I can stream the final live on my android?
Silly americans. No possibility to get home before the final starts?
Here in Sweden, the TV-channel that are showing the game usually has an online version, and also one for mobile phones where you'll get a stream. So check up with the TV-provider.

Otherwise there are some websites that stream a lot of games. I'll send some in a PM.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 28-06-2012, 23:06:39
Germany played like bullshit. We don't deserve to be in the finals, maybe just had a bad day, a bit misfortune, a sleeping defense, a retarded referee, an amazing Buffon agaisnt us and being always a step too slow.

That's football. Congrats Italy.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 28-06-2012, 23:06:15
Germany played like bullshit. We don't deserve to be in the finals, maybe just had a bad day, a bit misfortune, a sleeping defense, a retarded referee, an amazing Buffon agaisnt us and being always a step too slow.

That's football. Congrats Italy.
Weird thing is, I've been so impressed with Germany throughout the whole tournament. Up until this game they've played like a team of champions, like they were destined to win this. I really wonder what happened today, was it simply that the Italians were too good?

Sad to see Germany gone, I really think they deserved to win an international cup.
But as long as Italy beats Spain, I'm happy.

And hey, this squad that played today will be able to play the next 3 international tournaments, with the possible exception of Lahm, who might have to settle for the next 2 cups. Incredibly young squad, with a really bright future.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: mopskind on 28-06-2012, 23:06:03
Löw might have brought Schürrle and Reus in the first place, Podolski was once again just a shadow of his former self and Kroos lacked offensive as well as defensive abilities...but meh, italy was just better i have to admit that :(
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Sgt.KAR98 on 28-06-2012, 23:06:27
Well,that happened on WC too.Germany was swift and brutal,till the match again Spain...they looked heavily doped that day!What happened to Cacau BTW?He was here commenting the match on TV...

Everybody said it was a surprise to see Italy winning.Not for me.Balotelli was the man of the match.And I guess I'm not BSing.When he left,Italy only barely scored...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 29-06-2012, 00:06:10




But as my friends are silly Americans, they didn't know that the Euro final was Sunday.  Now I am in a dilemma, so does anyone know of any ways that I can stream the final live on my android?
Silly americans. No possibility to get home before the final starts?
Here in Sweden, the TV-channel that are showing the game usually has an online version, and also one for mobile phones where you'll get a stream. So check up with the TV-provider.

Otherwise there are some websites that stream a lot of games. I'll send some in a PM.
Thanks Ted, I'll try out the links on my android later and see if they work, fingers crossed.  Yeah due to time zones the final will be smack dab in the afternoon.  My least favourite things about living in the States are reactionary politics, fundamental Christianity and apathy towards football.  I cannot decide on the greatest evil.

Also it was a shame that the final German play didn't really get to happen with even Neuer in the box.   but fair play to the Italians.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: SiCaRiO on 29-06-2012, 00:06:33
WHAT A GAME




WHAT A MOTHER .......ING GAME!!!!!!

sometimes I wish I could root for the italians, they really OWNED the field. I even saw a small group of italians waving flags at Sol in Madrid :D.


i cant wait for the finals.



btw: who said germany was going to pass?  ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 29-06-2012, 00:06:39
Germany played like bullshit. We don't deserve to be in the finals, maybe just had a bad day, a bit misfortune, a sleeping defense, a retarded referee, an amazing Buffon agaisnt us and being always a step too slow.

That's football. Congrats Italy.
Weird thing is, I've been so impressed with Germany throughout the whole tournament. Up until this game they've played like a team of champions, like they were destined to win this. I really wonder what happened today, was it simply that the Italians were too good?


One word.

History.

Italy has more history than the Germans, they are backed up by their amazing history. Germany plays good, but when they see Italy, they shit themselves.


Great Balotelli, fuck all the people that said "Italy is weak", people need a lesson.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: blue on 29-06-2012, 01:06:46
This was probably the best game of the tournament so far (probably in total too) and was a well deserved victory for Italy. I was expecting the Germans to win, since I figured their attack would generally just grind the Italians down, but I was really wrong. Too bad this was not the final, since I think Spain will be a boring game with their pass the ball for 90 minutes strategy. Don't get me wrong, if it works it works, but considering their talent it is kind of a shame.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 29-06-2012, 02:06:36
Remember 2006! It was Italy that set the Germans back too.

They have deadly counter attacks and now they got Mario Balotelli. Yay! You don't look down at poor-performing team.

And as for Spain, their victory in the final is uncertain now. Agains Germany, well they would most likely win. But Italy? Ha, who knows?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 29-06-2012, 02:06:20
Too bad this was not the final, since I think Spain will be a boring game with their pass the ball for 90 minutes strategy. Don't get me wrong, if it works it works, but considering their talent it is kind of a shame.
I totally agree! This would have been one hell of a final, but then again: teams play differently in finals: they are more afraid of losing it. Also agree on Spain.

WHAT A GAME




WHAT A MOTHER .......ING GAME!!!!!!

sometimes I wish I could root for the italians, they really OWNED the field. I even saw a small group of italians waving flags at Sol in Madrid :D.


i cant wait for the finals.



btw: who said germany was going to pass?  ;D
Yes, you are saved now. You now showed you know what good game looks like. Problem is, that Spain can't play games like this, they can endlessly and aimlessly pass the ball around, yes, but they can't create scoring opportunitities like happended in this match. When Spain will play like Italy or Germany today, I can support them, until then: no way!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: SiCaRiO on 29-06-2012, 02:06:41
agree on the endlessly, dissagree on the aimlessly. They dont touch the ball for no reason, its more like a chessgame, they look for a weakness in the defense and take a shot to the heart. Oportunities, they make, the BIG problem, its they dont take advantrage of them, and the match with Portugal just showed that, especialy on the extra time. MISSING ALMOST CERTAIN GOALS! they crashed their defense, but couldnt coordinate after.

But i thik this final its gonna be different, as someone said early, you play a lot different on finals. we will see.

Dissclaimer: dont know many football terms in enlgish so i tried to keep it simple :P
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 29-06-2012, 11:06:22
Wow, astonishing game by Italy! What a surprise! Before Euro, I thought that they would have problems with getting out of the group and now they're in the final! I hope they'll win over Spain. But why Germans played so badly? I think Loew made some mistakes with the squad. I think Shurrle with Reuse should have played since the beginning like in the previous match. And I was quite shocked when he changed Gomez, I know that he didn't play well, but I thought that they should have played with 2 strikers when the were loosing 0-2...

So now, FORZA ITALIA!!!  ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 29-06-2012, 11:06:31
Gomez only plays well when its draw or his team is leading. Exchanging him for Klose was the right choice. Problem was Kroos from beginning. He had some nice shots, but not really more than that. Schweinsteiger played horrible, endless list....As much as I dislike the Italians, I hope they win vs Spain. Buffon and Pirlo are good old guys, they deserve to win the title.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 29-06-2012, 12:06:34
So Balotelli is heading for top scorer?  ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 29-06-2012, 12:06:13
Schweinsteiger played horrible, endless list....As much as I dislike the Italians, I hope they win vs Spain. Buffon and Pirlo are good old guys, they deserve to win the title.

I read news that Schweinsteiger is still recovering from his previous ankle injury. So you can't expect him to perform that well in a high-pressure match.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 29-06-2012, 13:06:35
Of course I can. Especially in a match like that he has to be able to give his best. When his injury still interferes him, then he should not play. And of course he was injured, but he is far from being unable to play. He did not play well, shit happens, but this is just the truth. I don't say that Bender or Gündogan are better alternatives for him, but he just did not play well. And passing the ball to Balotelli and failing a lot of passes generally (like a lot of others as well in this game) does have nothing to do with a past injury, that's not an excuse.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Smiles on 29-06-2012, 13:06:46
Enjoyed the match. Normally i really dislike Italy and teir game but yesterday night was really entertaining and i thank them for giving me, as a football fan, what i deserve and what everyone else deserves. Equality, respect, they gave me what i paid for, fun, love, romance and drama. Really like how the world should be, to bad they didnt put a boycott on Syria.

Trololololo
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 29-06-2012, 17:06:41
agree on the endlessly, dissagree on the aimlessly. They dont touch the ball for no reason, its more like a chessgame, they look for a weakness in the defense and take a shot to the heart. Oportunities, they make, the BIG problem, its they dont take advantrage of them, and the match with Portugal just showed that, especialy on the extra time. MISSING ALMOST CERTAIN GOALS! they crashed their defense, but couldnt coordinate after.

But i thik this final its gonna be different, as someone said early, you play a lot different on finals. we will see.

Dissclaimer: dont know many football terms in enlgish so i tried to keep it simple :P
@ aimlessly: I know that is what they want, but they should try to score goals WAY more often than they're doing now. Like I said before, goals are what make this game (more) attractive, but Spain is satisfied when they score once, if even that.

In the extra time vs Portugal they finally showed what they can do: now do that in the entire match, Spain!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Schneider on 29-06-2012, 21:06:16
Lucky, but not undeserved.
And:
(http://img.pr0gramm.com/2012/06/599454-441187539246652-2118307139-n.jpg)

Nuff said.  :)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 29-06-2012, 23:06:36
And the EURO has already ended for Poland. I think we've done our job well (if we are talking about organisation) and we can only thank to these who chose us and who visited us during EURO. I hope that we'll get some profits because of it in the future and not end like Portugal or Greece after Olympics Games. Pity, that our national team didn't make it... Pity, because such occasion happens only once in a life...  :-\ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH0ZanBLSsw&feature=player_embedded)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 01-07-2012, 12:07:24
Finale tonight between Spain and Italy!

 Other than that, a lot of Silly Season rumours are really starting to take shape now since it's officially open from today.

I pray to the Gods that Tottenham will get AVB ASAP and some new players
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 01-07-2012, 12:07:18
To be honest, I don't care too much about the finals, since I am not going to be happy with the winner anyway. I hope more for Italy to win though. They deserve it more than Spain !
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 01-07-2012, 17:07:07
IF Italy wins this Euro, then Pirlo must also win Ballon d'Or.

He did a superb job leading Juventus to the Serie A title and now leading Italy to a possible new EURO!!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 01-07-2012, 17:07:57
Pirlo is really a good player. Just saw his game highlights through this Euro 2012, he played quite good actually. But Spain has players with superior individual techniques, so it will be very tough match. My friend placed a bet for Spain. I still support Italy. And I have to take back my words on EPL. Balotelli is fearsome indeed, no wonder Citizens got the crown.

Just doodling with stupid things:
But I'm still thinking about those "UEFA Champions winner club jersey colours myth." Since the 2012 winner is Chelsea with blue jersey, against Bayern that sports red ones, I guess it pointed to the obvious winner. Back in 2008, Manchester United (red) won, thus Spain who also wears red jersey won the Euro 2008, back in 2004, Porto FC (white-blue) victory matched Greece's surprise victory over the host team at the Euro 2004 final.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 01-07-2012, 19:07:36
AVB seems to be done with also Vertonghen and Sigurdsson joining the ranks of Tottenham Hotspurs.

Also, Oscar from Internacional seem also to be done with AVB being official within 48 hours.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: SiCaRiO on 01-07-2012, 21:07:17
now tell me spain does not attack  ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Gluntz on 01-07-2012, 21:07:56
now tell me spain does not attack  ;D

ahahaha  ;D


THIS IS FOOTBALL !!!

¡Viva España!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 01-07-2012, 21:07:10
Finally a rare play by Spain. If they were like this before, probably they  would have more people cheer for them.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: luftwaffe.be on 01-07-2012, 21:07:13
2-0 game over Italy, unless mario manages to make his 4 goals  ::)

Granted though, Spain has the best football team in the world, although I would have preferred it if Italy would have won.

My prognosis for second half : defensive Spain, end score 2-0
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Fuchs on 01-07-2012, 22:07:59
Spain winning? Gods what a boring Euro Cup, no underdog managing to get in the finals and no more Irish. Ah well, onto the next World Cup.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 01-07-2012, 22:07:40
Spain winning? Gods what a boring Euro Cup, no underdog managing to get in the finals and no more Irish. Ah well, onto the next World Cup.

Boring Euro Cup, lol. Are you watching Italy v Spain? no, you aren't.


Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 01-07-2012, 22:07:54
Yes, and now it is a hobbyist football show with Motta out, now it's 10 vs. 11. They were laughing together in the field.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Yustax on 01-07-2012, 22:07:42
I am right now. The game is very boring. Starting that i neither like spain or italy. Germany is out and i dont have interest on it anymore.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 01-07-2012, 22:07:24
"THE GAME IS VERY BORING", lmfao. Of course it's boring, if you watch the last 15 minutes....
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: SiCaRiO on 01-07-2012, 22:07:14


My prognosis for second half : defensive Spain, end score 2-0

wrong  ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 01-07-2012, 22:07:26
Yeah, up to Motta's injury, they were playing quite good actually. Now it's 4-0 and the Italian players seems to already joining the party mood.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 01-07-2012, 22:07:57
Great lesson from Spain. Best football team i ever seen! Congratulations, well deserved.




I still have this word on my head:


"Boring"


Lmfao, go watch tennis guys. Epic match, my Italy didn't won BUT DAMN, that was a show.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: luftwaffe.be on 01-07-2012, 22:07:59
Nice match till Motta got out. Worst exchange ever, but they couldn't know :)

After that Spain simply surrounded Italy's 16' though.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 01-07-2012, 22:07:15
I wouldn't say it was epic, 4-0 is just kind of easy for Spain. 50-50 possesion, but italy was outclassed. Spain decided to play good football for once, good for them
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 01-07-2012, 22:07:20
Now that's how Spain should use their superior technique and skills!

What a show, even Torres scored tonight. Thanks for the finals guys. The conclusion is, El Rey dethrone not yet!

Can't wait for Brazil 2014. Hope Xavi, Pedro, Ramos and friends are still up to it.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 01-07-2012, 22:07:04
I wouldn't say it was epic, 4-0 is just kind of easy for Spain. 50-50 possesion, but italy was outclassed. Spain decided to play good football for once, good for them

Spain decided to play good football?


Wait, what?.


So, Spain sucks?.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 01-07-2012, 22:07:48
dead tired. Rushed home from denmark to get to watch the final.

Only game I missed this Euro was Denmark-Holland.
Watched first half of the final, said "fuck this" and went to sleep. Woke up at final whistle and was told "4-0, italy one man down the last 30 minutes".

I said "fun Euro-cup" and now I'm going to bed. Feels like missing that second half was the best thing I've done this cup.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: SiCaRiO on 01-07-2012, 22:07:44
the tearsss, they are DELICIOUS!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 01-07-2012, 22:07:24
Its like Spain usually sucks the life out of games, so many of their games are 1-0 wars of attrition. For once they played pretty football. So many spain games i watch are just slow and 1-0 wins. I like that they scored 4 goals. especially since I hate italy
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: NTH on 01-07-2012, 23:07:02
Great performance by Spain. That second goal, what a master pass! Loved every minute of this game.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Fuchs on 01-07-2012, 23:07:14
Spain winning? Gods what a boring Euro Cup, no underdog managing to get in the finals and no more Irish. Ah well, onto the next World Cup.

Boring Euro Cup, lol. Are you watching Italy v Spain? no, you aren't.
If you read my post you can probably figure out I am not talking about this match. The ending was predictable, the results where disappointing for me.

I had no time to watch the game.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 01-07-2012, 23:07:11
Would you say the same if Italy won the Cup?, that is was boring?.


This Euro was really nice. Spain showed why they are the best team in the world, no one stood a chance.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: TuscanGangster on 01-07-2012, 23:07:02
Y hemos demostrado de nuevo quién es el mejor del mundo, gracias equipo. ;)
What a great Euro by Jordi Alba!
By the way... my father* who is italian is angry as hell at the moment.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Fuchs on 01-07-2012, 23:07:03
Would you say the same if Italy won the Cup?, that is was boring?.


This Euro was really nice. Spain showed why they are the best team in the world, no one stood a chance.
I'd shrug, at least it was not the same national team as the last two major football things. Would have loved to see a minor country kicking ass and having a lot of luck. Maybe England, or teams like the Czech, Greeks, Polish, etc.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Gluntz on 01-07-2012, 23:07:57
Hi, I am spanish Do you want me to win?  ;D


Fernando Alonso, Rafa Nadal, Alberto Contador, Pau Gasol...

The sports world is written in Spanish

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Yustax on 01-07-2012, 23:07:32
When I say boring, it's not the fact that whatever team played better. I tip my glass to the spanish cause the italians were playing badly. Starting by the very long passes and staying the majority of times in their area. However, when I say boring, it's because I dont like neither Spain or Italians. I go for Germany, it's my favorite team, they're out, so I just watched the game to see who would be the champions.

Just my opinion, but congratulations to Spain, they had been improving a lot these years.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 02-07-2012, 00:07:00
The whole debate about wether spain playes boring is crazy.

Yes, their game has been really boring throughout the tournament, and has been that way these last 3 international cups. However, that does not mean they aren't playing well.
They are the best team, as has been shown the last 6 years, there is no question about that and they should keep playing like that, but they can still be boring. Football is 2-way game, you have to defend and attack. Not every team should play the same way; where's the fun in that? I want to see these different types of play, wether I like them or not.

Like Chelsea in this years CL. They made the final the most boring final I've ever seen. But they played amazingly well, and I truly admire them for their impressive defense.

Now about spain, as I despise their style of play (and the fact that generally cheer for the underdogs, if I have no personal affiliation with either team) I really wanted just to see them lose.
I was cheering for Germany, but if they weren't to win then any team could win, as long as it wasn't Spain.
That is why I'm mad at tonights game, I'm just a bit bitter about it.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Fuchs on 02-07-2012, 00:07:21
The sports world is written in Spanish
Hahaha, come on man, you know how ridiculous that is.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: SiCaRiO on 02-07-2012, 00:07:41
no es ridiculo! es hora de aprender español xD
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Yustax on 02-07-2012, 00:07:58
no es ridiculo! es hora de aprender español xD

Siempre me he preguntado de donde tu aprendiste el español :P
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 02-07-2012, 00:07:37
Ok, we'll see on the Olympic Games how many medals you will get  :P

Regarding to the final: I wanted to see Italy winning, because Spain had been playing boring footbal... But after what I saw in the final, I must admit that Spain deserved it. Remember that they lost only 1 goal during all matches! Outstanding performance! If only they could play like this in every game...  ::) Anyway congratulations!!!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: TuscanGangster on 02-07-2012, 01:07:44
Ok, we'll see on the Olympic Games how many medals you will get  :P
We will gladly wait. ;)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Fuchs on 02-07-2012, 14:07:16
The Winter Edition of course, let's see how many top class skiers, ice skaters and snowboarders Spain has.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 02-07-2012, 15:07:22
Watching the Olympics sucks in the states.  They will only focus on the things America is pwning at, nothing else.  So last summer olympics we just had to watch endless reruns of the US dominating the swimming... not a huge Olympics fan anyway.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 02-07-2012, 15:07:38
Argentina didn't qualify for Olympics football, WTF.

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 02-07-2012, 15:07:20
For me, Olympic football doesn't have any value...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 02-07-2012, 15:07:44
There are rumors about Racing signing Mauro Camoranesi, who is actually playing in Argentina.


Must be a joke.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 02-07-2012, 15:07:29
Some country send its first liner football team to the Olympics, but never won anyway  ;D

Despite how corrupt FIFA is, I still prefer them to the Olympic. They are main-streamers, yes, nothing wrong with that, but it is filled with hollier-than-thou associations, when they aren't any less political than FIFA.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 02-07-2012, 20:07:39
PSG just bought Ezequiel Lavezzi . The numbers are around 30M euros.

Good player but might be a little bit overpriced because of his age.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 02-07-2012, 20:07:11
27 is old? But yes, definately overpriced...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Gluntz on 02-07-2012, 21:07:29
Spain is also the best team for things like this:

Iker Casillas asks for respect for the Italian team

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KW4e-CGkE8
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 02-07-2012, 21:07:54
Spain is also the best team for things like this:

Iker Casillas asks for respect for the Italian team

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KW4e-CGkE8

Rather for mercy...  ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Gluntz on 02-07-2012, 21:07:53
The Winter Edition of course, let's see how many top class skiers, ice skaters and snowboarders Spain has.

Francisco Fernández Ochoa, Blanca Fernández Ochoa, Maria José Rienda .....
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 02-07-2012, 22:07:53
Watched it later, then had fun, because finally Spain was playing an attractive match! I was booing Spain because of their utter boredom (since 2008), but this match was one fine display of football.

If only they could play like this in every game...  ::)

And Prandelli, what was wrong with you? First starting with a player who as already injured earlier in the tournament and then, after losing that player in the 20th minute, exchanging a player for another injured guy!
Nice match till Motta got out. Worst exchange ever, but they couldn't know :)
Yes, they could know. Motta had been injured with the very same injury this same tournament, only a week ago. Shame on the medical staff!

Congrats Spain, now keep this playstyle up, then I can enjoy watching your matches again.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 02-07-2012, 22:07:54
The Winter Edition of course, let's see how many top class skiers, ice skaters and snowboarders Spain has
I'd give up every Scandinavian medal in the Winter Olympics for having my country win the Euro's.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Fuchs on 02-07-2012, 22:07:25
Gultz, go check the winner lists of Vancouver 2010, no Spanish athletes. None. Stop being a senseless patriot, Spain dominates football, not the sports world.

The Winter Edition of course, let's see how many top class skiers, ice skaters and snowboarders Spain has
I'd give up every Scandinavian medal in the Winter Olympics for having my country win the Euro's.
Hush, hush, we all know that will never happen, not even if you paid FIFA 20% more than the normal bribe.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Schneider on 02-07-2012, 22:07:03
I wonder who creates the list of the "UEFA Team of the Tournament"? From reading over it, I assume the team consists at least by 50% of the worst commentators of each country, drunken.
Philipp Lahm in that list, what the hell..
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Gluntz on 02-07-2012, 22:07:08
Stop being a senseless patriot, Spain dominates football, not the sports world.


ahahahahah I smell a bit of envy here


(http://www10.pic-upload.de/02.07.12/alldxdahfi79.gif)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Fuchs on 02-07-2012, 22:07:29
Envy? Your nose is misguiding you, I just hate people who think their nation is the best at everything. Come on, be realistic and not a blind patriot. If Spain was so good, why is it going bankrupt?

Anyways, Heidi, those teams never make sense. They always pick a random bunch of people from teams that made it far into the championship. Compare the teams from the last few years, you will be amazed.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: SiCaRiO on 02-07-2012, 23:07:46
because capitalism is bullshit and every nation is going to go, eventually, spain is just evolving faster xD
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Fuchs on 02-07-2012, 23:07:33
Greece is leagues ahead of you though  ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Gluntz on 02-07-2012, 23:07:16
If Spain was so good, why is it going bankrupt?

To be a broken country on Saturday as you say Rajoy and Monti scored an Eurogroup  ;D

bankrupt?? Spain is not broken. In fact it is one of the countries of Europe with less public debt. Another issue are the problems of some Spanish banks. Much lower than those recently banks were Dutch, French and German.

But unlike you I do not mix with football. Football is football... and Spain is the best (and then Germany, of course)


Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 03-07-2012, 01:07:36
I also thought that mixing football and politics/economy is wrong.

But your economical situation and home policy probably bother you indeed, so you have something to be proud of now and something you can celebrate.

If so, it'smore or less okay. If not, I can just tell you that football is an up and down. Spain won't be on top for eternity. Being one of the more ambitious football teams in the world an up wave like that is not unusual, but the fall will come. It's fine to celebate right now, but to me it's weird to hype your own country like that.

I laughed when you wrote the world of sports is written in Spanish. To me it sounds like you have to compensate something, no matter if it's true or not.

Everyone is probably nationalistic out of being emotional when for example the national football team wins the Euros, that's fine. But that kind of nationalism, hyping the home country above everything else is just weird.

Also remember: Being proud of your country a little is okay, but don't make the mistake to put your country above others. That is wrong and pathetic. And don't wonder people mix politics and economy with sports when you do so. If you think that doing so is miserable, you just found out what people think about your one sided statements before.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 03-07-2012, 01:07:34
Lol, Lavezzi sucks.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Fuchs on 03-07-2012, 14:07:36
If Spain was so good, why is it going bankrupt?
bankrupt?? Spain is not broken. In fact it is one of the countries of Europe with less public debt. Another issue are the problems of some Spanish banks. Much lower than those recently banks were Dutch, French and German.
Haha, Spain is on the brink of financial destruction, right in the alley with Portugal, Italy, etc. And if Spain has a lower debt than other nations it's probably because those nations keep giving money to Spain because the EU cares so much for all the members.

But unlike you I do not mix with football. Football is football... and Spain is the best (and then Germany, of course)
Unlike me? Fucking hell, you started the mixing by calling Spain the best sports nation in the world. It is not, sport is not just football. That is the only point I'm trying to make. How thick is your skull, lol.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 03-07-2012, 15:07:57
Totenham just announced that they have signed André Villas Boas has their coach.

This is going to be a pre-season full of surprises in the Premier League.

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 03-07-2012, 15:07:13
Oh please Fuchs...

We know what it is like, but let him be as vervelend as he is. Don't you Dutchies usually hardly gives a fuck about things?

BTW, for this season, I'll be watching more Serie-A matches for sure. Too bad RAI International (channel 2) is all I got here. Anyone know how to translate this into english? RAI 2 TV guide (http://www.rai2.rai.it/dl/RaiDue/home_r2.html) I want to know if they broadcast serie-A games.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 03-07-2012, 15:07:55
Why don't you use internet to watch matches?

And I'm reading Euro statistics:
Holland number 3 i shots off target when they played only in 3 matches  ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: NTH on 03-07-2012, 16:07:57
If Spain was so good, why is it going bankrupt?
bankrupt?? Spain is not broken. In fact it is one of the countries of Europe with less public debt. Another issue are the problems of some Spanish banks. Much lower than those recently banks were Dutch, French and German.
Haha, Spain is on the brink of financial destruction, right in the alley with Portugal, Italy, etc. And if Spain has a lower debt than other nations it's probably because those nations keep giving money to Spain because the EU cares so much for all the members.

But unlike you I do not mix with football. Football is football... and Spain is the best (and then Germany, of course)
Unlike me? Fucking hell, you started the mixing by calling Spain the best sports nation in the world. It is not, sport is not just football. That is the only point I'm trying to make. How thick is your skull, lol.

Stop eating food with too many E-numbers, you are getting hyper again ...

We all know Spain rules:

Ik hou van dansen en muziek
E viva España
Van oude trots en romantiek
E viva España
Een serenade aan 't balkon
E viva España
Geef mij maar alle dagen zon
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Fuchs on 03-07-2012, 16:07:31
Maybe you ate too many E-number stuff, I am not hyper. Hyper mostly comes with active and I'm tired so very inactive. Or just read my posts slower, I will look less hyper. I know you love Spain, all elderly people do, Jan Pensionada!

Zoo, you greatly underestimate the average Dutch person. They care about everything and have an opinion on everything. It's just his patriotism man, it's killing me.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 03-07-2012, 16:07:27
No I mean why such silly thing like patriotism bothers an average Dutch person, which is world renown for their tolerance?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Fuchs on 03-07-2012, 17:07:06
You humble me by calling me an average Dutch person, most of my fellow countrymen tend to disagree. Does tolerance mean it does not bother someone? I'm sure there are enough people who believe that everyone can do what they want but some things are just incredibly stupid, I tolerate his national stupidipride but I also voice my opinion on it. Freedom of speech.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 03-07-2012, 17:07:28
Football fellas.

Football....

Ontopic:

I expect big moves in the transfer market in the next days. Big big moves!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 03-07-2012, 17:07:37
Ah yes freedom of speech, well keep it level-headed meneer...

Meanwhile, João Moutinho, the guy who made quite impressive display in Euro, is rumoured to get an offer from MU soon. That's a wowzer
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 03-07-2012, 18:07:49
Why don't you use internet to watch matches?

And I'm reading Euro statistics:
Holland number 3 i shots off target when they played only in 3 matches  ;D
Yes, quite good: at least they tried to shoot at the target, unlike some other teams.  ;D

Another nice one: Netherlands nr 1 in passing accuracy. Higher than Spain ;)

Only two red cards really shows that UEFA threatened the refs not to give any red cards after the first match, while sewveral would have been deserved (Ramos, Samaras, Piqué).
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 03-07-2012, 19:07:15
Meanwhile, João Moutinho, the guy who made quite impressive display in Euro, is rumoured to get an offer from MU soon. That's a wowzer

He plays in my club, yes because i own 0.08% of the club. Shareholders for the win.  ;D

 If ManU wants him its 40€M and they can take him. No more no less. That the release clause.

But i hope he stays at FCPorto this season. Fantastic midfielder.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 03-07-2012, 19:07:28
Thanks to Szczęsny Poland appeared in the statistics (red card)  ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: CologneSky on 03-07-2012, 21:07:11
Meanwhile, João Moutinho, the guy who made quite impressive display in Euro, is rumoured to get an offer from MU soon. That's a wowzer

He plays in my club, yes because i own 0.08% of the club. Shareholders for the win.  ;D

 If ManU wants him its 40€M and they can take him. No more no less. That the release clause.

But i hope he stays at FCPorto this season. Fantastic midfielder.

so you have around €250000-300000 in FC Porto?
Thats impressive...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 03-07-2012, 21:07:42
so you have around €250000-300000 in FC Porto?
Thats impressive...

You should inform yourself how football club shares work in Portugal before you post... club capial does mean anything regarding that.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: CologneSky on 03-07-2012, 22:07:51
so you have around €250000-300000 in FC Porto?
Thats impressive...

You should inform yourself how football club shares work in Portugal before you post... club capial does mean anything regarding that.

well if you OWN 0.1% of anything which is worth around €300M you have something like 300k..

if you have 0.1% of VOTING RIGHTS, thats something else..

i am aware of the concept of preferred equity.  ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 03-07-2012, 22:07:07
Hey Randoom, I see that you have some money, so you can invest in my new PC  8)

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 03-07-2012, 22:07:36
I admit im not a poor man but i have a moral standard to only give money to the right causes.

 ;)

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 03-07-2012, 22:07:29
But charitable issue is this right cause!!!  ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 03-07-2012, 23:07:07
But charitable issue is this right cause!!!  ;D

Nah... you have quitted our Forgotten Honor Football Managing League, you dont deserve it. 

Karma is a bitch.   ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Fuchs on 03-07-2012, 23:07:20
Slayer, Kwiot, where can I see those football statistics? Always fun to read into that stuff.

And Randoom, if you sponsor my new gaming rig I will join Forgotten Honor and spread your good name. Good charity, I swear.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 03-07-2012, 23:07:25
Andrés Villas-Boas is the new Head Coach for Tottenham Hotspurs!

I said that he would be the best candidate for the job back in the day when Spurs started to lose it when Capello resigned and the FA started looking for new coaches before the Euro's.

And here we are...

Porto's Moutinho is on the hit list during this transfer window. Randoom, any good?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 03-07-2012, 23:07:13
Pogba will be joining Juve soon.

Lucio may sign for Juventus.

Pirlo would like to see Balotelli at Juve, i hope so!.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 03-07-2012, 23:07:26
I've seen some Porto games, and just in this EC Moutinho was really good. Has been "ready" for a bigger league for some years now, so I think it will be a great purchase.

AVB will be most interesting to follow in spurs, just annoyed  that now Sigurdsson will most surely sign for tottenham hand not for LFC

Pogba will be joining Juve soon.
Crazy, they also signed Mauricio Isla and Kwadwo Asamoah. While Isla mostly plays at right-back, he can also play very well in the inner-midfield.

Juventus is forming a crazy team, especially with the midfield: Marchisio, Pirlo, Vidal, Asamoah, Pogba. Am I missing someone? (I'm counting on Elia and Krasic to leave this summer)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 04-07-2012, 00:07:02

Pogba will be joining Juve soon.
Crazy, they also signed Mauricio Isla and Kwadwo Asamoah. While Isla mostly plays at right-back, he can also play very well in the inner-midfield.

Juventus is forming a crazy team, especially with the midfield: Marchisio, Pirlo, Vidal, Asamoah, Pogba. Am I missing someone? (I'm counting on Elia and Krasic to leave this summer)

They're forming a great midfield. There are plans to sign Verratti, a young midfielder who currently plays for Pescara Calcio, the new Serie A Club. He's known as "The new Pirlo". As far as a i know, Vidal, Pirlo, Marchisio, Pogba, Isla, Asamoah are the current midfielders, also they've re-signed Giovinco.


However, they still need a World-Class striker. Juve offered a lot of money for Torres (30M€, if im not mistaken), it could work. It is unclear if Van Persie will sign for Juve and Cavani's price is too high. Same with Higuain.


Juve can't play a Champions League with Vucinic or Matri as strikers...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 04-07-2012, 01:07:04
Slayer, Kwiot, where can I see those football statistics? Always fun to read into that stuff.
Over here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AonYZs4MzlZbdFpMR2Z3Nk53ZC1WcVRZTDQzQ3pUV1E#gid=1
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Sgt.KAR98 on 04-07-2012, 06:07:43
Meh.Spain won.

But today,the most awaited day for the South American football has arrived.
Both teams are great by nature.Can't say much about Boca Juniors,but Corinthians is the second most supported club and the first most hated in Brazil.Altought the club have 102 years of existence,we never managed to win a Copa Libertadores.That is probably the only thing some of us miss...
BUT,today can be the day when our noise will be heard even from the ISS (for sure it will transpose the vacuum).
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 04-07-2012, 11:07:14
Porto's Moutinho is on the hit list during this transfer window. Randoom, any good?

He is very good. A work horse in the middlefield , does not get tired and has an impressive passing percentage.

I would be very sad if he leaves FCPorto, but the release clause is 40€M, so you need to spend that if you want him. Really dont think it will happen.

 ;)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Fuchs on 04-07-2012, 15:07:12
Slayer, Kwiot, where can I see those football statistics? Always fun to read into that stuff.
Over here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AonYZs4MzlZbdFpMR2Z3Nk53ZC1WcVRZTDQzQ3pUV1E#gid=1
Thanks! This is good stuff.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 04-07-2012, 16:07:31
Some EURO 2012 "Best moments" films:
FILM 1 (http://www.youtube.com/embed/xbv_UM7hLvo)
FILM 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Js1ES-Y_8ek)
FILM 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tCKhJ3bwpA&feature=related)

I think each film has something special  ;)

If you find some other great films like these, plz post!!

Edit:Glasgow Rangers excluded from the Scottish league!!! This club is close to become bankrupt....
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 05-07-2012, 00:07:37
Lucio, the ex Inter player, signed with Juventus.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 05-07-2012, 01:07:03
Current Stoke player, former Spurs, Portsmouth, Liverpool an Hässleholm player Peter Crouch will be hosting his own TV-show.

"On the couch with Peter Crouch". Apparently he'll visit fameous people in their homes, chatting with them (Think 'Letterman meets Cribs' I guess).
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 05-07-2012, 03:07:04
On the couch with Peter Crouch, if you know what i mean.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 05-07-2012, 11:07:13
Corinthians has won their first Copa Libertadores after winning 2-0 (3-1 aggregate score) agaisnt Boca Juniors.   ;)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 05-07-2012, 16:07:42
Finally a team with enough balls to beat boca

So happy, Corinthians saved my week, it is hard to be surrounded by boca "fans".

And thanks for getting rid of Riquelme, now we have chances to beat boca in Copa Argentina!.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Natty on 05-07-2012, 20:07:52
FIFA decides to start using goal-line technology, Hope they have time test and get a system in place for WC 2012 :)

http://www.fifa.com/aboutfifa/organisation/ifab/media/news/newsid=1660541/index.html?intcmp=newsreader_news_box_1
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 05-07-2012, 23:07:53
FIFA decides to start using goal-line technology, Hope they have time test and get a system in place for WC 2012 :)

http://www.fifa.com/aboutfifa/organisation/ifab/media/news/newsid=1660541/index.html?intcmp=newsreader_news_box_1

About time!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Sgt.KAR98 on 05-07-2012, 23:07:14
Yeeees!
Corinthians won the Libertadores!C'mon,where are the trolls now?
It was a strange game.Accodirng to TV,in Argentina the newspapers were stating that that wasn't the Boca everybody knows.Indeed,in the second half after the second goal,they started to play like kids,in a silly way.Pretty much like "F.. that s...".
I felt bad for their goalkeeper.He was very sad when he left.Hope Boca manage to cope with the defeat and to have will for trying again next year.
BTW,Sheik shouldn't be trolling that much yesterday.


Nevertheless,everybody's guess was right.Corinthians won what is probably the last Tournament we missed.
Let the Blues come!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 06-07-2012, 00:07:41
Yeeees!
Corinthians won the Libertadores!C'mon,where are the trolls now?
It was a strange game.Accodirng to TV,in Argentina the newspapers were stating that that wasn't the Boca everybody knows.Indeed,in the second half after the second goal,they started to play like kids,in a silly way.Pretty much like "F.. that s...".
I felt bad for their goalkeeper.He was very sad when he left.Hope Boca manage to cope with the defeat and to have will for trying again next year.
BTW,Sheik shouldn't be trolling that much yesterday.


Nevertheless,everybody's guess was right.Corinthians won what is probably the last Tournament we missed.
Let the Blues come!

Lol, Orion, a big son of a bitch. Don't even feel a little sad for him amigo. And i think that's the real Boca, a desperate team that depends on Riquelme, and when things are not working, well, see Schiavi, see how brutal their game was. Great Emerson! today on class, i shouted EMEEERSOON!, got a sanction but damn, i enjoyed watching Boca fans faces when i said that.


There is a commentator which usually comments on big games, his name is Fernando Niembro. The guy, after Conrinthians won, said "Corinthians, unbeaten champion, but it will not stay in history". The guy is a known boca juniors fan, he was SO agry, loled hard.


Thanks again Corinthians!!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Sgt.KAR98 on 08-07-2012, 02:07:34
WTF,Seedorf in Botafogo and Forlán in Internacional????
Corinthians should take Balotelli or Rooney then.Forget Tevez,ffs.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 08-07-2012, 04:07:03
Xabi Alonso and Francesc Fàbregas is in Jakarta now.

Today they will try to break Guinness book of record by making the greatest number of passes ever made in a single event around our National monument square. They will try to achieve this with the help of some of our ex-superstar national football team rosters.

Yesterday, they caused quite a traffic jam near my home, where they held a fans meeting. People here were like crazy for their team, the "Red Fury" Spanish National Football team. I got to say that I used to love that Spain, when they were struggling with Raúl González, Luís Enrique Martínez, Fernando Hierro, Gaizka Mendieta, and the goalkeeper Andoni Zubizarreta. My sentiment towards them is pretty much similar to Ted's pet hate for today's Barcelona FC. They (the today's "instant" fans) probably only know Spain for their current day playing style (tiki-taka, individual techniques, Iniesta-Xavi-Xabi stuffs), but they never knew that Spain has a history of being "the champion without the crown."

I am currently waiting for the Dutch team to regain their crown. People need to know that they are indeed worthy of being a world champion, and they got all the stuffs to do the job. But seeing their current play style, the dives and the berserk attitude (Battle of Nuremberg and WC 2010 final), I can't really cheer for them.

Anyway, do you think current day football referee are too strict on blowing whistles?

Previously, it was made known to me that (as BBC 3 presenter said) "at a time when a two footed leg breaker followed by a karate chop miiiight get you a yellow..." in World Cup 1986. Well, today, even a slight touch and glorious dive from the opposing team could very well landed in a red card for either guy, depending on how wrong the referee is. I think it is getting very silly, we could have sees more action, but more and more players are nagging, bitching, and whining instead of getting up as quick as possible and actually play. Because they are expecting it, since most of today's referee always book even a slight touch that easy.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 08-07-2012, 19:07:49
Spurs so far...

- André Villas-Boas
- Jan Vertonghen (Defence)
- Gylfi Sigurðsson (Midfield)
- Zeki Fryers (Defence)

Other on-going prospects according to the media

- Lewandowski
- Damiao
- Oscar
- Lloris
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 09-07-2012, 01:07:42
Spurs have done a GREAT transfer window so far. Would love to see Lewandowski in PL too, I think he'd fit great in Spurs (if not in liverpool that is).

AIK won against Häcken with 3-1. I don't have a voice anymore and the gold is still in reach this last season on the classic stadium Råsunda.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 09-07-2012, 04:07:13
Too bad they can't keep Modric as he seems to leave for Real Madrid, what a waste. He will ruin his career if that move is completed imo.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Sgt.KAR98 on 12-07-2012, 02:07:32
Heard Maradona was fired.What was he doing lately?Was he still acting as couch for the Argentinian national team?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 12-07-2012, 03:07:12
Maradona was coaching Al-Wasl, he took the job after 2010 World Cup.




Brilliant news for me. Nearly ALL Juve fans love Camoranesi, a warrior. After leaving Stuttgart, he went to Club Atletico Lanus in Argentina, now he is nearly a free agent and Racing Club will try to get him.

One of my idols will play at my glorious Academia, SO FUCKING HAPPY.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 12-07-2012, 20:07:35
Real Madrids amateur team defender and talent Daniel Carvajal (20) signed a 5 year contract in Leverkusen. Furthermore: The Chilean Junior Fernandez signed a 5 year contract at Leverkusen as well a week ago. Hope we have a nice team for this season now.

Anyway, Chelsea offering 25 Million for Andre Schürrle, which is unbelievable. Our manager denied the offer and says he wants to keep him. I love Schürrle and appreciate his skills, he's unbelievably talented and I am really unsure about that offer. I'd personally not know what to do. On the one hand I'm going to be sad when he goes to Chelsea, on the other hand we get 25 million €. My gut instinct tells me that he should stay though. I'm afraid he won't even play that much at Chelsea anyway.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 12-07-2012, 22:07:21
I really like Schürrle, saw some Leverkusen games last season and the world cup games, and what a player! I fell in love. I really really really hope he won't go to Chelsea! They signed Marko Marin and Eden Hazard already, while having Mata at the same position (and I do believe the signed someone else too. Plus they have a great talent in Kevin de Bruyne).

Plus, of course, I want to see Schürrle in Liverpool.


So, PSG is really really close to signing both Zlatan Ibrahimovic and Thiago Silva form AC Milan for around 60 million euros. I really don't want to see them in PSG, a club without much soul really, and now they just have big money.
Milan have been very shortsighted, giving Zlatan a monstrous pay (80 million euros a year, highest wage in italy). And now 2 years later they HAVE to sell him. Although they have offered him a contract which would mean him cutting his wage in half, which I just don't see happening.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 12-07-2012, 22:07:39
Where does PSG have all the money from ? They have not been very succesful in the past few years. Do they have a sheik or Russian as well now ? -.-

There have been rumors for a few months now that AC wants to get rid of Thiago Silva. I can't understand that anyway, he's one of their most improtant players, can't imagine anyone that can replace him properly in Milan.

When Schürrle plays a great season in Leverkusen, he's gone for sure next season anyway :P I don't expect him to stay much longer if he keeps playing well. Last season he was kinda disappointing though. In the second half of the season he started to get really good, but before he seemed to need some time to integrate his playstyle into the team. We all have a lot of hopes in him, and want to get a championsleague spot again this year. I am so excited how well he plays with Junior Fernandez, looking forward to a  powerful offense.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 13-07-2012, 06:07:31
Wow, really?


Tournament's system in Argentina suffered various modifications.

Since the beginning, it was a classic format, European-Like i call it, one season, one champion per league.


In 1992, AFA decided to screw this. Due to a final between Boca Juniors and Newells Old Boys, they've decided to play a final match between them which Newells won.


The same Year, AFA created "Apertura and Clausura", two tournaments per season, two champions in one season. Apertura opens up seasons and Clausura closes them. Simple, it has been like that since 1992.


Until now. This piece of crap is back, the mentioned Boca vs Newells final will repeat once again, this time with different teams.


A Season is divided in two, Initial and Final. What a huge piece of shit, YOU CANNOT WIN INITIAL. You end up in 1st place and you automatically qualify for a final against the "Final" winner, WTF!!

Say:

Racing "Wins" Initial
Boca "Wins" Final

Racing vs Boca in a final match that will decide the season champion. Also it gives the Final "winner" an unfair chance on the Initial "winner"... you just can't keep a good team for 6 more months, some key players will be sold, Argentina exports players, YOU CANT keep a player for 6 more months if you are in need of money, and the economic situation of ALL Argentina teams are bad, so selling, is required.

Also, the "Final" winner will reach the Finals with a fresh team, they've been the winners of the last tournament, instead the Initial Winners will reach the finals in a pretty bad shape.


Ah, i had to ragequit somewhere.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 18-07-2012, 14:07:12
Hulk for Spurs ?

 ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 18-07-2012, 20:07:36
Zlatan Ibrahimovic --> Paris Saint Germain: 20.000.000 €

Thiago Silva --> Paris Saint Germain: 42.000.000 €


Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 25-07-2012, 20:07:51
I LOVE CAMORANESI!

(http://www.ole.com.ar/racing/Camoranesi-presentado-Fabian-Ayala-Telam_OLEIMA20120725_0094_15.jpg)


Can't believe this guy will actually play for Racing, a Juventus Historical!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Sgt.KAR98 on 26-07-2012, 00:07:57
Hahaha,it's kinda old but,Corinthians spoiled Riquelme transfer to Flamengo!After the defeat,Riquelme said "No,thank you" to the red and black team.I guess he should come to Corinthians...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 18-08-2012, 17:08:49
So it has begun.

The Premier League 2012/13 season.

I'm really looking forward to this, the transfer season has seen some great things.

Liverpool is currently down 0-2 to West Brom, but the gameplay under Brendan Rodgers have looked good in my opinion, at least in the first half. Great potential and if given time, this could turn into something big.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Capten_C on 18-08-2012, 19:08:09
0-5! Trololololo (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19221292)  :D

Odds for away win was 13/5 this morning, didn't put anything down grrr  >:(
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 19-08-2012, 18:08:26
Man, I have some Liverpool fans among my friends. Devastating game yesterday for them.

Newcastle vs Spurs, good game but too bad for Spurs. One hit the post and one hit the bar and then it was Ben Arfa all the way. What a player.

Newcastle have everything now to top their previous season.

Praying Spurs will get more players in before the deadline.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 20-08-2012, 00:08:30
Avellaneda Derby today!

Racing 2 - 0 Independiente, with Mauro Camoranesi playing his first official derby for Racing, he played a great match, sadly he's not up for 90'.

(http://www.ole.com.ar/futbol-primera/Camoranesi-encarando-Morel-Rodriguez-PT_OLEIMA20120819_0082_8.jpg)



Sometimes i just don't believe it, he is one of my idols, when he played on Juventus he was a beast... now he is here, winner of WC 2006 playing at my club, daaamn.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Capten_C on 27-08-2012, 01:08:59
 
2 mins of pass 'n' move (best @ fullscreen + 1080p)  ..they won 3-0  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQOcTo784mc&feature=colike) :)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 27-08-2012, 14:08:36
Liverpool - ManCity 2:2 Meh, Liverpool played really good, but made 2 crucial mistakes which shouldn't appear iin the best league in the world...

I didn't watch much, but the game of this 17th years old Sterling is really impressive, he's really talented.

Nuri Sahin is in Liverpool, but I don't know what I can expect from him after 1 year of non playing...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 27-08-2012, 15:08:49
I was devastated by Skrtel's backpass, he had played fantastically but all it takes is one mistake and everything good you have done is instantly destroyed.

Raheem Sterling will be a quality player, I've watched him since he first came to the club and you could always tell he would make it.

Sahin is a good signing on loan, hopefully he will play enough to have an impact.

Did anyone see Rooney's injury? Never seen a gash like that caused by such an innocuous collision.

(http://www.completesportsnigeria.com//uploads/lthumb/wayne_rooney_injury.jpg)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 30-08-2012, 21:08:02
FUCKING YEEEEEEEEEES!!!!!!!
AIK BEAT CSKA MOSKVA ON THEIR HOMEPITCH WITH 2-0
WE'RE IN THE EUROPA LEAGUE!!!!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Steel_Lion_FIN on 30-08-2012, 21:08:27
Am I the only one who doesn't give a rats arse about football?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Leibermuster on 30-08-2012, 21:08:58
Nope  :)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 30-08-2012, 22:08:13
European matches are gonna be scarce for Netherlands next season. Maybe Twente qualifies, but when they don't we only have 2 teams left out of 7...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 31-08-2012, 00:08:52
Am I the only one who doesn't give a rats arse about football?

A worthy post to place in the football thread.....
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 31-08-2012, 00:08:18
(http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/9343/112012830184139.jpg)

(http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/1381/222012830184158.jpg)


Forza Juve!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 31-08-2012, 01:08:39
So there is your challenge Dortmund, hehe. Group D is so awesome. I hope they kick some ass in the group with the 2 most unlikeable clubs in football, Real and ManCity. I really hope they play well this year in CL and I so hope that Man fuckin City gets its ass kicked (Clubs that only got good because of some retarded sheiks upset me)

Don't underestimate Dortmund! They won Bundesliga 2 times in a row now and just lack international success until now. But they got an awesome team. Marco Reus did not even need time to warm up, he is on fire already it seems. I really hope they can establish themselves as second succesfull German Champions League team in the next couple of years.

Munich with an easy group. I think they are going to play a nice CL again this season. Glad that football starts again, summer break was way too long :P
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Smiles on 31-08-2012, 02:08:52
Lol at Ajax (same group as above). Theyve been so unlucky with the groups last 3 years ^^
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 31-08-2012, 03:08:46
I'm sorry but I indeed doubt Ajax is going to do anything in this group. ALthough I could imagine Dortmund fucking up at CL again, I jsut don't hope so. Anyway, I highly doubt they manage to be better than Dortmund and Real/City. The lottery basically welcomes Ajax in the Europa League and Dortmund probably as well, but I have faith in them. They have the potential to do the surprise.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 31-08-2012, 07:08:16
It is me, or Real Madrid has been facing Ajax frequently?.

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 31-08-2012, 12:08:55
Leverkusen striker talent Samed Yesil goes to Liverpool for around 1 Million €. Friggin Joke that they let him go, especially for that few money ::) Okay, he is not worth more than that at this point, but he's a really talanted young guy. Anyway, it's great for him and Liverpool is my second favourite club so I am quite fine with it. I just hope he gets his chance to play in Liverpool here and there.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Eglaerinion on 31-08-2012, 13:08:22
It is me, or Real Madrid has been facing Ajax frequently?.


Correct. They've been in the same group the last three years in a row.

Ajax will have to hope for miracle to advance. Ending up third in this group would be quite an achievement already.

Champions of the Premier League, Primera Division, Bundesliga and Eredivisie in a single group. It's simply because of the bullshit system they employ for the draw. Ajax was more or less placed in this group because of commercial reasons even though two other groups were still open.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 31-08-2012, 13:08:45
More transfers popping up.

-Barcelona player Ibrahim Afellay is loaned to Schalke 04.
-Rafael Van der Vaart seems to be on his way back to Hamburg (I wonder that, Hamburg is horrible currently and nearly went to second league last season) Nothing is fixed though, would not wonder if he doesn't do it.
-Also Alessandro Del Piero seems to go to Sydney and finish his career there.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 31-08-2012, 19:08:58
-Rafael Van der Vaart seems to be on his way back to Hamburg (I wonder that, Hamburg is horrible currently and nearly went to second league last season) Nothing is fixed though, would not wonder if he doesn't do it.

Actually he's already there. For me it's quite disappointing... The player who played in Real Madrit, who had really good matches in Tottenham is going back with his career...

Edit:
And Maicon in Manchester City!!! Media tell that they paid for him 3 mln pounds which is very good price in my opinion.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 31-08-2012, 23:08:10
Inter is like kicking all Brazilians from their team.

Lucio moved to Juventus for free, Maicon switched for Man. City

And probably the most shocking of them all:

Julio Cesar signed for QPR


What's going on with QPR? Are they going to be like the new Man. City?, afaik they signed Park Ji Sung, Granero from Real Madrid and now Julio Cesar!, interesting players indeed.


Nice to hear ADP will find a club soon, Sydney FC will be a good place for him, giving some quality to A-League.

Just watched UEFA SuperCup, Falcao is a beast, underrated striker he deserves more!, Simeone is a great tactician, too bad he left Racing for Atl. Madrid D:

Rumours says that Juve signed Bendtner on loan from Arsenal FC.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 31-08-2012, 23:08:04
Leverkusen striker talent Samed Yesil goes to Liverpool for around 1 Million €. Friggin Joke that they let him go, especially for that few money ::) Okay, he is not worth more than that at this point, but he's a really talanted young guy. Anyway, it's great for him and Liverpool is my second favourite club so I am quite fine with it. I just hope he gets his chance to play in Liverpool here and there.

As far as I'm aware Leverkusen have a buy back clause if certain conditions are met so not all bad for them.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 01-09-2012, 00:09:18
Yes, that's true. Nobody knows about the conditions though. In the end it's a fucked up transfer in my eyes and nearly a donation for Liverpool. When Yesil is gonna skyrocket, they will keep him anyway and give a good bunch of money to Leverkusen then. In the worst case - I indeed hope the clause is a good one. Would make sense when giving him away for such few money, but Bayer managed to act weirdly when it comes down to transfers for serveral years now.

Problem is that our general manager Holzhäuser is an idiot and has fucked up more than enough transfers in the past. Better for him that nobody knows about the conditions. Every fan wants him out of his office for years, but he won't go. That he gave Yesil to Liverpool now is only another step in the wrong direction for many of us. With Kiesling, Junior Fernandez and Schürrle we only have 3 Strikers anyway, it's not that he is unncecessary. Hell, I'm getting mad...Problem is not that single transfer, it's jsut another questionable decision that makes me feel bad about the transfer policy in general. We are never gonna win anything with this idiot Holzhäuser as boss.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 01-09-2012, 01:09:29
I feel for you Surfbird, I know what it's like to have someone in charge who couldn't care less about the club.

With Yesil I'm sure the clause will be favourable to all parties though. The only issue I can see (if he is a big success) is that he may fall in love with Liverpool and not want to leave.

However, if he is as good as all your fans say he is, then Liverpool may have to fight off Real Madrid etc and we know that won't end well.

Have you watched him play much? I know his goal record is good but I have no idea of his style of play.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 01-09-2012, 02:09:23
Well, he played in Leverkusen since he is 7 years old. As U17 player of the German National team he scored 19 goals in 21 games. Does not mean too much, but he is one if not the biggest talent we had from the work with young players in the own club. Just sad to see him go before he even got his chance to play in the first team. And going to a team like Liverpool can also make things worse for an 18 years old player. He could easily sink into obscurity and has a lot of high quality competition in Liverpool.

I did not see him play a lot, he just got to the first team, but what I know is that he is a very fast and agile player who is known for being good at scoring goals. It's kinda hard to tell how good he is by now, because he did not play on really professional level yet, but he is still developing and generally assumed as big striker talent.

What actually upsets me is that I looked forward to maybe see him play here and there and maybe see him getting succesful in a few years, bringing Bayer forward. As I said, makes me sad when he goes away for an apple and an eye. But some little hope and satisfaction is there because of that clause, that's right :)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 01-09-2012, 02:09:11
Well, it seems that Brendan Rodgers will choose often young players - againsy Manchester City there was 17th yeard old player and he also bet on Coates (21) instead of experienced Carragher. So I think he will get some chances especially when there's so many matches in the season.  ;)

Edit: Ha, the most expensive piece of wood (Andy Carroll) was loaned to WHU...  ::) Also Liverpool sold C. Adam (his game was really disappointing).

So there's a place for this guy as you see  :)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 01-09-2012, 02:09:16
You mean Sterling with the 17 year old guy, right ? He really looks like a great player!

In Bayers test game vs Liverpool he overran our whole defense and scored a goal in minute 3 or something like that. So I see Liverpool might be a good club for young players at the moment and not "kill" young players like a lot of European top clubs do (Munich, Madrid, Cheslea, ManUnited) I also think that Rodgers is a competent guy and is hopefully able to perform a succesfull "restart" for FC Liverpool.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 01-09-2012, 07:09:22
(http://estaticos04.marca.com/imagenes/2012/08/31/futbol/europa_league/1346413788_extras_portada_2.jpg)


Europa League groups, Videoton ftw!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 01-09-2012, 21:09:12
Half of the teams I see for the first time  ;D

Shame that there isn't any Polish team....  ::)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 02-09-2012, 17:09:02
Liverpool 0-2 Arsenal

I didn't watch the match, but I've read that Reina again gave a gift to enemy, and Gerrard has his best years in career behind him...  ::)

Honestly, after what I watched in the previous matches, I expect to see Liverpool win... Arsenal hadn't scored a goal, and Liverpool played really good against Manchester City... Well, again before September ends, we can only dream about championship...  ::)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 04-09-2012, 00:09:06
Zenit signed Hulk and Witsel for 80M !!!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 04-09-2012, 01:09:46
President of Zenit said a few weeks ago they were trying to sign Hulk because he's desperate to prove to the world that they DO buy black players (They have never had one before, if Hulk can be considered "black").
He will be taunted by his own fans nevertheless.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 04-09-2012, 10:09:20
(http://ss11i01.stream.ip-only.net/images/blog/images/entries/30/10/18/108544/0d1590efe8466c0f)

''There's no black in Zeniths colors''

Zenith fans work back in June when the Hulk stories started
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 06-09-2012, 04:09:29
(http://www.ole.com.ar/futbol-internacional/Piero-poso-camiseta-Sidney-FC_OLEIMA20120905_0120_15.jpg)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: cannonfodder on 07-09-2012, 10:09:04
Del Piero's now an honorary Aussie.

Less than an hour after the announcement, the servers at Sydney FC crashed.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 07-09-2012, 15:09:15
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-En51x1WDW-c/UEnayYbeQlI/AAAAAAAABPg/PAJ5xYyDzy0/s500/Rodgers%2520GIF.gif)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Chadoi on 07-09-2012, 17:09:49
Haha brilliant Ted!

Our Brendan has always reminded me of this lovable character:

(http://www.agirlsworld.com/rachel/beat-street/reviews/pix/sharktale1.jpg)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 18-09-2012, 00:09:50
Juventus will return to UCL action this Wednesday, against the "Lucky Winners" Chelsea on Stamford Bridge.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 23-09-2012, 19:09:11
Liverpool lost against Manchester United 2-1 even though he played better... Unfortunately, big influence on the result had referre who wrongly sent off Liverpool player in the first half also the penalty for ManU was quite controversal... I haven't seen so lucky team in Premier League...  ::)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: cannonfodder on 28-09-2012, 09:09:50
I think the penny has finally dropped over at the A-League.

After Sydney FC secured the services of Del Piero, the Newcastle Jets went out and signed Emile Heskey on a one year deal, and new team the Western Sydney Wanderers have signed Shinji Ono for two years.


If they continue to entice players of this calibre down here, in a decade or two soccer might actually find itself threatening the two major "football" codes (Rugby league and Aussie rules).
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 28-09-2012, 16:09:15
And then you can start to call it "football" like decent people do ;)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 02-10-2012, 23:10:43
BATE Borysów - Bayern Monachium 3:1 - WTF?!  ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Ts4EVER on 02-10-2012, 23:10:21
Dortmund ftw
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 02-10-2012, 23:10:15
Dortmund ftw

I agree!!!  ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 03-10-2012, 20:10:19
Let's see ^^ Dortmund vs ManCity starting in 15 minutes, hopefully gonna be awesome - Go Dortmund! 8)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 03-10-2012, 22:10:22
Fucking ManCity morons...unjustified penalty....SO MAD...SO MAAAD!!!!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 04-10-2012, 00:10:26
Damn it! Borussia should have scored 5 goals... Ah, this Lewandowski miss!!!  ::) I would have scored that!  ;D But, I must admit that Hart was in top form tonight... And this lucky penalty to Citizens thanks to unlucky hand...  ::)

I don't get it why we have such groups and such group with Porto, PSG, Dinamo Kiev and Zagreb?! I bet Arabians from PSG bought it...  ::)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 04-10-2012, 01:10:41
PSG eat it tonight.

1 - 0

FCPorto will finish first easily. PSG is too weak...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Sgt.KAR98 on 07-10-2012, 02:10:22
Damn,only one team I support in Champions League is well.Man United.Olympiakos,Dynamo and Benfica are in danger...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 07-10-2012, 17:10:07
Juve needs to wake up, the draw against Chelsea was nice, but against Shakhtar hmmm.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 10-10-2012, 04:10:45
Messi at the age of 10.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNGKkRmWQxI&feature=player_embedded#!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 16-10-2012, 20:10:45
Tonight Poland against England in the Qualifying to WC 2014 - this is some kind of classic for us!!!  ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: th_battleaxe on 16-10-2012, 20:10:16
Ach, Scotland's up against the Belgians. The Tartan band is in Brussels already, and they brought bagpipes. And kilts...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 16-10-2012, 22:10:58
Yo, Germany leading 4:0 vs sweden, game ends 4:4, what the fuck ?!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Kwiot on 17-10-2012, 10:10:28
Hah, and match Poland vs. England was Postponed due to heavy rain and bad pitch condition... Funny that they wanted to play on the stadium with closing roof, but it wasn't closed...  ::) Such things can happen only in my sick country!

Edit:

(http://i.wp.pl/a/f/jpeg/30028/320352_441370289231619_390728491_n.jpeg)
(http://i.wp.pl/a/f/jpeg/30028/4409360f3a0fdb5cf43ca2819e802a77.jpeg)
(http://i.wp.pl/a/f/jpeg/30028/285650_316923821748386_1721126845_n.jpeg)
 ;D

Edit2:And today we have sunny day and the roof is closed - WTF?!  ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Smiles on 22-10-2012, 22:10:11
(http://us4.memecdn.com/what-really-happen_o_832784.gif)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 24-10-2012, 22:10:57
YES YES YES !

Dortmund beats Real Madrid 2:1

Those guys play so awesome football in champions league currently, just so exciting and fun to watch. No arrogant bastards in that team and they fight for the victory, give everything, simply great!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Sgt.KAR98 on 25-10-2012, 00:10:24
The Elano effect? ;D

Hey Kwiot,isn't that shirt from second image from São Paulo?Looks like the Morumbi Stadium.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 29-10-2012, 00:10:26
My club Leverkusen won vs Bayern Munich 1:2. First victory in Munich after 23 years. Lucky victory, but great anyway and keeps the Bundesliga interesting, as Munich was on its way to get quite a gap to its followers, their first loss in league this season.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 29-10-2012, 18:10:27
Still amazed by how good Dortmund was against Real Madrid!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 31-10-2012, 15:10:17
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=u7d7qsRk04I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=u7d7qsRk04I)

^Holy shit...what a game!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Moose on 01-11-2012, 05:11:24
Sometimes my gunners make me cry
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 10-11-2012, 06:11:44
(http://p.twimg.com/A7IjSyrCcAAJJn-.jpg)

Barcelona, ask Racing how to beat Celtic, HAH.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Sgt.KAR98 on 13-12-2012, 04:12:43
Corinthians had it's first match of the FIFA Club World Cup.We defeated Al Ahly.Too bad I like Al Ahly...
Next is Chelsea.I also like them...NOT!Screw them for real Corinthians!

Also,Torenico,WTF just happened at the Sudamericana today????
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 13-12-2012, 20:12:00
Haha, i ask you Brazilian, what happened?

Well apparently Tigre (Suckass team... won like 3 matches in domestic league) was losing 2-0 against a superior rival, yeah, so some Tigre guy (Ah, anti-football team!) picked a fight with some Brazilian player, then it was all chaos in the pitch, nothing new... Argentine players visiting Brasil always end up in fights. Okay so one Sao Paulo guy seen the red card, then Tigre went to their dressing rooms and bam.

Police and security employees showed up and starting beating the hell out of Tigre players!, one player even said that a security officer pointed a gun on him... then Tigre didn't come out for the second half and so, Sao Paulo won a final in 45 minutes.

Knowing that the next world cup will be hosted in Brasil hmmmmm, i think we gonna have a baaaaaad time.


Tigre kinda deserved it, for being such an anti-Football team, Boca also had a bad time in Brasil in the past and so did River Player, Uruguay in the Maracanazo was also attacked by Brazilians and yet they won the world cup... but Tigre instead they preferred to be such a little whining idiots, COME OUT AND PLAY.... nothing to do there, they're a small team not used to play in these competitions.

Bah, we were eliminated from that cup in two matches, not even our mighty Camoranesi could save us, LOVE THAT GUY, now that he scored..!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 17-12-2012, 15:12:33
Time for more posts in this thread again ;D
 
My club Leverkusen is second in Bundesliga, with 9 points to munich, who are currently hard to stop. Only Leverkusen has beaten them this season, but suffered some very unnecessary defeats.

Unfortunately Renato Augusto is leaving our club and is going to play for Corinthians Sao Paulo. He was injured very often and was therefore unable to show his great potential. Anyway, a great player and a great time with him here.

Today was also announced that Leverkusen signed the 18 years old Polish talent Arkadiusz Milik. In Poland he seems to be quite a big deal, part of the national team already and stuff. He chose Leverkusen over other European top clubs. I hope he develops well here.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: NTH on 23-04-2013, 22:04:36
Geez Barcelona, what are you doing  ::) Three fours goals, wake up, what a humiliation !!!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Ts4EVER on 23-04-2013, 22:04:52
Lol owned right there.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 24-04-2013, 00:04:05
Lol owned right there.

Indeed! And it's good like that. Now Dortmund hopefully wins vs Madrid tomorrow. Somehow I want both German teams in the finals, but I'm afraid it will feel too much like "Bundesliga"-game. Anyway, I guess having a 100% German final is a further big step forward for German football. Furthermore I don't like Madrid and I'm kinda sick of Barca winning again.
I'm also not a Munich or Dortmund fan, but they both play great football and deserve being in the finals, so I support them and just enjoy the final without caring about who wins.
I'd wonder when MUnich does not win the CL though. They are currently just clearly the best team in the world.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Ts4EVER on 24-04-2013, 22:04:57
Oh the rape.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Oberst on 25-04-2013, 11:04:05
Quote
A prediction; The final will be played by 22 men kicking a ball about for 90 minutes, and at the end the Germans will win.

Gary Lineker on his twitter account.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Born2Kill 007 on 25-04-2013, 15:04:22
Guess you need a Belgian, Russian or English team to stop the Germans, but they are no longer around so, good job Germany, one of the few countries with clubs that have a healthy bankaccount.
Were really nice games btw
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 25-04-2013, 17:04:28
Yea, although you should know that Munich supported Dortmund financially when they were down. Shortly after the financial support Dortmund started growing strong. Dortmund coach Klopp (although I'm not sure if asshole or not) has always been a guy that makes something out of teams that don't perform that great and you surely gotta give him a lot of credit as well. Generally both teams developed young players and made intelligent transfers and have a basis of players that play for their clubs for quite some time.
The result is effectiveness and it's a similar policy as Barca has by the way.

Clubs like ManCity can own the worse clubs in the league, but on international level, they are simply not strong enough, because it needs more than good, single players there.

There can always be good and bad days that decide over victory, but when Barca and Real can't stop Munich, no other team can. Let's wait for the return matches though, who knows what happens, especially in Madrid. Bayern has the class to hold that lead, no matter if playing in Camp Nou or not. As I said, they are currently just better than any team and I grant them the success especially because the coach Jupp Heynckes is one of the most likeable and skilled coaches around.
It's kinda sad that Guardiola is becoming new coach. What exactly is he going to improve when the team is already the best in the world?
I see that it's for long time success of the team and having a durable coach, especially because Heynckes is pretty old already and they had to take Guardiola now or he would go somewhere else, but it's a bit sad anyway.

Just some points. Hopefully this thread comes back to life again, I already forgot about it.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 27-04-2013, 19:04:13
Demanding results is fine, but changing coach frequently is silly. That's what many major clubs do now, except Arsenal and Manchester United.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 16-05-2013, 17:05:26
And Beckham has retired. 
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 18-05-2013, 19:05:21
Yea well. He was not really present anymore for me anyway after he went to LA. For me he retired years ago. This last season in Paris was just some further moneymaking and it was weird to see him back suddenly. He's pretty much a relic from my childhood though. One of these players that are from that generation who were big idols when I was a kid. Like Zidane, Del Piero, Ronaldo, Raul.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 25-05-2013, 17:05:43
So, champions league finals today.

I'm personally quite neutral, happy for both teams that they made it to the finals. Anyway, I might be hoping a bit more for Munich to win. Not because of any specific player or the fans, just because of coach Jupp Heynckes. Most likeable top coach ever. I want him to have a nice end of his career, even when he doesn't retire and coaches a team for one or two more years after this, what he has done with Munich this season is simply amazing and he deserves to win league, cup and CL title, the "triple".

But I'm also not disappointed when Dortmund wins. Partly very likeable team, they fought their way through against top teams in the group already and had the most awesome comeback vs Malaga in the quarter finals. I still can't stop listening to the BVB-radio commentator (=> http://youtu.be/-q6H2zy8jpo?t=7m40s (http://youtu.be/-q6H2zy8jpo?t=7m40s)). So in some way both teams really deserve it and I will probably be rather neutral for the first time in a champions league final, which is a bit sad, but I can't help it :P

May the better team win and not be influenced by wrong referee decisions too much.

Gonna go for barbecue in half an hour. Where are you gonna watch it, who do you hope to win?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 25-05-2013, 17:05:59
Gutted that Götze won't be playing. Would give an amazing dimension to the game, him facing his future club.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Capten_C on 04-06-2013, 14:06:06
Goal by "Goal"keeper  ;D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4yFYqrelfg
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Mudzin on 04-06-2013, 15:06:28
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DTyuCN7YtI - this is more famous!!!  ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 07-06-2013, 00:06:23
Anyone watching EC under 21? Germany vs Netherlands was a cool game to watch! The other matches so far were a bit meager with very few goals, but five goals in Ger vs Neth made up for that. I hope 2nd round matches are gonna be more interesting!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: th_battleaxe on 08-06-2013, 12:06:01
I think it would be appropriate to thank a certain mr. Snodgrass for putting his toe to a football, and thus winning the match against Croatia.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 08-06-2013, 15:06:02
Yesterday, the Netherlands smacked our back 3-0 (NED vs INA). But people keep saying our GK, Kurnia Meiga put a wonderful show last night, he saved numerous well placed shots from RVP and the gangs. However, Siem De Jong and Arjen Robben both could find numerous weak spots in our defensive line (that has been there since 50 years ago). They scored brilliant goals after escaping their defenders, especially Robben. However it took them half of the game to find out, the first half ended with 0-0.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 01-11-2013, 11:11:56
And Beckham has retired.

What has happend to this beautiful thread in my absence?!

OK, here's the current status of the Premier League - Tight!

1   Arsenal   22
2   Chelsea   20
3   Liverpool   20
4   Tottenham   19
5   Southampt   18
6   Everton   18
7   Man City   16
8   Man Utd   14
9   Swansea   11
10   Hull           11
11   Newcastle   11
12   WBA           10
13   Aston Villa   10
14   Fulham   10
15   West Ham   9
16   Cardiff   9
17   Stoke           8
18   Norwich   8
19   Sunderland   4
20   C.Palace   3
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Capten_C on 01-11-2013, 13:11:18
Derby weekend!  :D

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b03fzynx/Bluebirds_and_Swans/
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 01-11-2013, 17:11:46
OK, here's the current status of the Premier League - Tight!
Our national league is much tighter:
Code: [Select]
1 FC Twente 19
2 Ajax         19
AZ 19
4 PSV 18
PEC Zwolle 18
6 Vitesse 18
7 FC Groningen         18
8 Feyenoord         17
9 Roda JC Kerkrade 16
10 SC Heerenveen    15
11 NAC Breda 15
12 Heracles Almelo 14
13 Go Ahead Eagles 13
14 SC Cambuur         12
15 FC Utrecht 12
16 ADO Den Haag         10
17 NEC                 8
18 RKC Waalwijk         6
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 01-11-2013, 19:11:54
Swedish league, final game on sunday.

Sadly, AIK didn't manage to get a hold of the first place. But we did do a really great season anyway, considering the unique season we've endured.
First 8 games, not a single victory and only 3 goals scored. A few days before game number 8 or so, our absolutely amazing goalkeeper, Ivan Turina, passed away suddenly in his sleep, 31 years old. Leaving behind him a pregnant wife, and his 3 year old twin daughters.
This shook the whole club, but strengthened us as well, we wanted to win the goal for Ivan.

The following game, 3 days after his death, the team chose not to postpone the game against Gothenburg, huge rivals. We got 2 penalties, missed both. They took the lead on another penalty. But then it turned.
After that we went 12-14 games or so without losing, racing to the top of the league.


This season we've endured:
Loss of the greatest goalkeeper I've seen in the swedish league.
Controversy in the media about supposed money-laundering by one of our sponsors.
Controversy around the fact that a coach for a youth team, 10 years ago, was a member of a gang of hooligans
Media trying to sell papers, by accusing AIK of not being of enough help for Turina's wife (complete, and disrespectful bullshit)
Daniel Majstorovic, Center back, refusing to even sit on the bench and wining, resulting in him being left out of the squad every game, he's done.

All this, and people are still unhappy about finishing second.


1 Malmö FF      29 18  6  5  53-29  60
  2 AIK           29 16  7  6  52-31  55
  3 IFK Göteborg  29 15  6  8  47-31  51
  4 Helsingborg   29 14  7  8  60-39  49
  5 Kalmar FF     29 13 10  6  33-25  49
  6 Elfsborg      29 11 10  8  47-34  43
  7 Djurgården    29 12  7 10  37-43  43
  8 IFK Norrköpin 29 11  6 12  45-45  39
  9 Åtvidaberg    29 11  6 12  35-35  39
 10 Mjällby       29 10  6 13  45-45  36
 11 Häcken        29 10  6 13  35-39  36
 12 Gefle         29  7 13  9  34-40  34
 13 BP            29  8  7 14  31-52  31
 14 Halmstad      29  7  9 13  30-44  30
 15 Öster         29  6  9 14  26-42  27
 16 Syrianska FC  29  3  5 21  25-61  14
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 02-11-2013, 14:11:59
I can only agree with you, Ted.

What a season AIK has had and still pulled off like this, impressing.

Another funny note, Helsingborg and Göteborg, what a complete collapse in the last rounds. Did expect more from them.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 06-12-2013, 07:12:43
World Cup draw today oh boy oh boy!

Options look bad for the US of A.  Also I'm excited to see Belgium this year.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 06-12-2013, 18:12:01
Bosnia, Iran and Nigeria.

I would trade Iran or Bosnia for England, if Argentina wants to win, they need to face strong teams early on, not saying Nigeria isn't strong, or Bosnia being too easy or Iran being an automatic win, but I prefer bigger teams.

Buuuuuuuut Argentina will reach as far as Messi goes. Would have been amazing if we got Portugal on our group really.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 06-12-2013, 20:12:03
We got Spain, Chile and Australia.

I really don't know Chile, Australia can have it's day and Spain, well, we still have something to deal woith concerning Spain ;)

I'm glad that at least we don't have to play in Manaus.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Ts4EVER on 06-12-2013, 20:12:33
Buuuuuuuut Argentina will reach as far as Messi goes. Would have been amazing if we got Portugal on our group really.

Messi didn't save you from a 0:4 last time  ;)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 07-12-2013, 08:12:52
Yeah, I'm done with supporting Argentina. All the jerseys (from Batistuta to Messi), the towels, and the flags... all become quickly useless as they left so early in the World Cup tournaments.  :(

Meanwhile, in Group H, the only group in the whole tournament that will produce interesting entrants to the knock-out stage. Belgium, Algeria, Russia, South Korea. I wish any of you best of luck! To other groups: yeah, whatever, just do your usual stuff.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Battlefieldfan45 (CroPanzer) on 08-12-2013, 19:12:43
Croatia will opet the Championship with Brazil :D
I'm thrilled! Too bad Mandžukić won't play in htat match because of that nasty foul he commited.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 08-12-2013, 22:12:14
In Bundesliga my team Leverkusen won with 0:1 in Dortmund, getting a 6 point lead ahead of Dortmund and securing the second spot in the league. Awesome, aggressive game with two red cards and unfortunately two injuries for Dortmund, who have problems with some injured key players as it is.

Atfer all we finally won against a top club after a shameful 0:5 loss vs ManUnited in CL. Next CL game on Tuesday vs Real Sociedad, can't afford to fuck up there.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: MaJ.P.Bouras on 19-03-2014, 23:03:59
Unbelievable, Manchester carried by the ref to the 8 of champions league, being outplayed in its own stadium.


Maybe next year for Olympiakos.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Mudzin on 19-03-2014, 23:03:57
Indeed, the ref decision wasn't right, but your gk should have saved that shot... And your strikers should have shot at least 1 goal...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: MaJ.P.Bouras on 20-03-2014, 16:03:54
Yeah no excuse for Olympiakos either. Some shit ball played in the back and bad strikes up front.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 20-03-2014, 20:03:54
gj juventus BUT YOU SHOULD BE IN CHAMPIONS LEAGUE
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 23-03-2014, 23:03:22
Damn, El Clásico was friggin awesome. What a joy to watch!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 25-03-2014, 01:03:15
Since starting university I've watched barely any football, and of course it's hard to find on the telly in the States anyway.  Does anyone know a good website to stream live matches?  Moose, if you're still around, let me know because you were an American fan of the beautiful game.   
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 25-03-2014, 01:03:20
Since starting university I've watched barely any football, and of course it's hard to find on the telly in the States anyway.  Does anyone know a good website to stream live matches?  Moose, if you're still around, let me know because you were an American fan of the beautiful game.
Check your PM, sent several suggestions
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 26-03-2014, 22:03:56
So penaldo crying about refs on Barcelona game.

He is probably right, but he can't speak about refs on his position, Real Madrid, he should stop QQing and STFU.

He won the Ballon d'Orl because Messi was injured, simple.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Tedacious on 26-03-2014, 23:03:13
So penaldo crying about refs on Barcelona game.

He is probably right, but he can't speak about refs on his position, Real Madrid, he should stop QQing and STFU.

He won the Ballon d'Orl because Messi was injured, simple.
He won the Ballon d'Or cause 2013 he was the best player in the world. Messi had som injuries, but he did still play a lot - and ronaldo was better than him. No interest at all in these two teams anymore. So uninteresting, especially with the constant Uefa pampering of them (especially barca and messi)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 27-03-2014, 00:03:25
So penaldo crying about refs on Barcelona game.

He is probably right, but he can't speak about refs on his position, Real Madrid, he should stop QQing and STFU.

He won the Ballon d'Orl because Messi was injured, simple.

Looking at that statement it seems that you know nothing about football im sorry to say.

But you are young and young people need to learn more, and your fortunate enought there are people that can teach you.

Just look at the statistics. After that if you dont agree that Ronaldo deserved to win please dont comment about football anymore.

(http://i.imgur.com/yKygWMy.jpg)

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 27-03-2014, 00:03:56
While he was injured, he couldn't play at his top level...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 27-03-2014, 00:03:08
While he was injured, he couldn't play at his top level...

And what does Ronaldo have to do with that ?

Respect where its deserved.

Ronaldo more the deserved to win the Ballon d'Or  2013. 

Facts are obvious and simple for everyone.

Why are you crying about Messi then ?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Surfbird on 27-03-2014, 00:03:13
Well, Ronaldo deserved it, no doubt. Spculation about other players being better if they were not injured is ridicolous. Injuries are part of the sport, when you are injured it's your misfortune, shit happens. What matters is facts after all, Ronaldo was the only valid option.

Anyway, Ronaldo is at times still a cocky prick that cries when things don't go his way. He is a great footballer, but although he is more likeable than a few years ago, he is not an overall great personality. I personally prefer more humble player attitudes.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 27-03-2014, 00:03:36
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/soccer-dirty-tackle/cristiano-ronaldo-donates--83-000-to-pay-for-sick-child-s-operation-155950192.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/european/cristiano-ronaldo-paying-60000-for-brain-operation-for-10monthold-boy-9187412.html

http://www.theportugalnews.com/news/cristiano-ronaldo-pays-for-life-saving-operation/31011

Just a very small percentage of alot of things that Ronaldo does.

Yet,  he never takes credit for them or even talks about it when asked.

So, more humble and giving player then him ? Im still yet to know one.

Does Messi even offer anything to anyone ?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 27-03-2014, 00:03:38
While he was injured, he couldn't play at his top level...

And what does Ronaldo have to do with that ?

Respect where its deserved.

Ronaldo more the deserved to win the Ballon d'Or  2013. 

Facts are obvious and simple for everyone.

Why are you crying about Messi then ?

Nothing, it's that Ronaldofans don't seem to understand that he got the prestigious Ballon d'Or because Messi couldn't play at the top of his level, if it wasn't for that injury...... let's say he got lucky.

To me, Ribery deserved it more, but what the hell...

And yeah, he should shut up instead of talking about refs, because that penalty against Barcelona was so... legal, Ronaldo should know his history too, and Madrid's history too, or he only knows about Barcelona?.

(http://cdn01.pf.infobae.com/adjuntos/165/imagenes/010/821/0010821995.jpg)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 27-03-2014, 00:03:07
We were talking about the Ballon d our 2013.

Why are you try to divert the discussion to another different subject ? 

Thats what corrupt Argentian politicians do. It seems that you are learning from them.    ;)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 27-03-2014, 01:03:08
When I first posted it was about, partially, what Ronaldo said about Refs and that he should watch his mouth when talking about things he should't speak about, even less when in such a club like R. Madrid.

Oh and btw, finally La Liga got interesting, now it's a fight between 3 teams!.



.........
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 27-03-2014, 04:03:17
Of course they need to pamper Barca, otherwise, those hooligans and hoodlums in that region will turn into violence and cause unrest, and back to their independence case, worsening Spain's economy, and in turn the whole EU's.

Football and many other professional sports for the crowd are just crowd control in modern days, just like religion and gladiator show in the past. It gives bored people something to do and to cheer for other than mindless violence.

Cristiano Ronaldo is just a personality. If nobody acted like an asshole in-field, than the game wouldn't be interesting. Look at the whole Dutch team in WC2010 for instance. While not as flamboyant as CR7, I think they are worse. I'm very happy that they had it in Euro 2012 when they were beaten to pulp during the group stage. My German friends were chanting "alles ist vorbei!" back at the Dutch crowd. That was golden ;D

Anyway, listening to both of you guys, first Torenico, an Argentinian, and went rage mad for Argentinian Football team (where Messi plays); and then RAnDOOm, a Portuguese, football club stakeholder and diehard fans of Portugal Football team (where Ronaldo plays) will be endless.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 27-03-2014, 21:03:49
Hehe, Zoo: always taking the chance to flame the Dutch team, even if it is very much generalising and way off topic :) (oh, and a real bad comparison with CR7 at that)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 28-03-2014, 04:03:42
Yup, they are always the villain in the football world IMO, the dear Dutch team.  ;)

The BBC2 run "50 shocking events of FIFA World Cup" back in 2010. One of the surprises featured the incident of Rijkaard spitting Voeller after they were sent off. Then the Battle of Nuremberg between the Netherlands and Portugal. Then we saw that again in South Africa between Brazil and the Netherlands, and then finally Spain (one of the best actors in the field, facing the most dirty brutal players in modern times), culminating in de Jong's kick to the chest.

I think they want to establish themselves as the definitive bad guys on the field. Don't whine if referees will be biased against the Dutch team then.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 28-03-2014, 09:03:55
I bet in the 50 shocking moments there were many other countries too, right? I bet even most moments were not from the Dutch team :)

Nuremberg was 50-50 (it came from both sides equally), worst game I ever saw, but also worst ref (again, to both sides). Brazil vs Netherlands 2010 was mainly Brazil doing the kicking.

The playstyle of the Dutch team before 2010 created a large fanbase, many peopole just watched their games because "they liked the way they play". It speaks for itself that you can only mention a few incidents (which can be mentioned with any country playing in final tournaments often: Germany, Spain, Italy, you name them). I agree that 2010 was bad for that positive image.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Fuchs on 29-03-2014, 02:03:40
Rarely venture into this thread but I'm not surprised to see Zoo still hatin' on the Dutch team like he did the last time I went in here, in 2010. Stay classy, Zoo, we love you.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 09-04-2014, 02:04:07
Is... is he (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diego_Milito) coming back?.


I, well, we have been waiting for him.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 09-04-2014, 21:04:25
Benteke's out with a hurt Achilles... sadface for Aston Villa and more importantly for Belgium this summer.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Capten_C on 19-04-2014, 13:04:19
Muskatnuss Herr Pinto  MUSKATNUSS!!! :D

;) http://youtu.be/vWUEmw4daew
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Damaso on 19-04-2014, 13:04:34
damn: i dont like football too much, and it kinda pisses me of than wen i tell someone my nationality:"Portugal"

And they say something like: "Ohhh! Ohhh! Ronaldo? RONALDO!! Portuguese = Ronaldo!"

 ::)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 19-04-2014, 13:04:13
damn: i dont like football too much, and it kinda pisses me of than wen i tell someone my nationality:"Portugal"

And they say something like: "Ohhh! Ohhh! Ronaldo? RONALDO!! Portuguese = Ronaldo!"

 ::)

You dont like football and hate women.

Are you sure you are not gay ?  Nothing wrong with being gay tho.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: MaJ.P.Bouras on 19-04-2014, 18:04:56
damn: i dont like football too much, and it kinda pisses me of than wen i tell someone my nationality:"Portugal"

And they say something like: "Ohhh! Ohhh! Ronaldo? RONALDO!! Portuguese = Ronaldo!"

 ::)

You dont like football and hate women.

Are you sure you are not gay ?  Nothing wrong with being gay tho.


Damaso, Dude, really just give it a try. You might actually find the boy of your dreams eventually. You can learn to enjoy football together.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 30-04-2014, 20:04:22
AFA approved a tournament of 30 TEAMS, yes, 30 fucking teams for 2015, it's just so complicated I'm having trouble to explain it in my native language let alone in Enligsh, but it's just pathetic.

Argentine domestic football was rich, had tons of good players, good people, good teams, glory, had HISTORY, it all started to go down with this cancer-parasite Grondona which is a dictatorship whitin a democratic country, being in power since 1978, ruling it with total impunity, 100% corrupt and can be totally proven, but nobody ever moved a finger.

Now it's shit, two tournaments per year, win a couple of matches either by fixing them or by winning 1-0 with pure luck and you are a candidate for the title, this year's tournament is total bullshit, none of these teams fighting for the title nowhere near good. just above mediocre, they win by chance, by being lucky. They even tried to combine First and Second Divisions, chaotic, betting will probably make it's way into Argentina officially, long Tournaments, EPL, Serie A, La Liga, Bundesliga Style are long gone and probably will never return, 3 last places for relegation, no magic numbers saving the big clubs from relegation, one year = one tournament, one champion, best teams qualify for Libertadores and Sudamericana (That would be UCL and EL)..., but no, we always have to be different, we have to be dumb, they are destroying what we Argentinians love most, Football.

If it wasn't for my love, Racing, I wouldn't even bother looking at this piece of shit football, hell, even a fucking ticket for stadium is expensive these days, and you don't know if you gonna come back to your home alive.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RommelBr on 01-05-2014, 01:05:20
damn: i dont like football too much, and it kinda pisses me of than wen i tell someone my nationality:"Portugal"

And they say something like: "Ohhh! Ohhh! Ronaldo? RONALDO!! Portuguese = Ronaldo!"

 ::)

 Damaso, you don't know anything about this. I am Brazilian.  ;)

(FOOTBALL!!1!!11 PELÉ!1!!!11 RONALDINHO!!!!1!!1!11! MARACANÃ!!!11!11!!1!!! ...)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Wulfburk on 02-05-2014, 17:05:35
Quote
AFA approved a tournament of 30 TEAMS, yes, 30 fucking teams for 2015, it's just so complicated I'm having trouble to explain it in my native language let alone in Enligsh, but it's just pathetic.

Argentine domestic football was rich, had tons of good players, good people, good teams, glory, had HISTORY, it all started to go down with this cancer-parasite Grondona which is a dictatorship whitin a democratic country, being in power since 1978, ruling it with total impunity, 100% corrupt and can be totally proven, but nobody ever moved a finger.

Now it's shit, two tournaments per year, win a couple of matches either by fixing them or by winning 1-0 with pure luck and you are a candidate for the title, this year's tournament is total bullshit, none of these teams fighting for the title nowhere near good. just above mediocre, they win by chance, by being lucky. They even tried to combine First and Second Divisions, chaotic, betting will probably make it's way into Argentina officially, long Tournaments, EPL, Serie A, La Liga, Bundesliga Style are long gone and probably will never return, 3 last places for relegation, no magic numbers saving the big clubs from relegation, one year = one tournament, one champion, best teams qualify for Libertadores and Sudamericana (That would be UCL and EL)..., but no, we always have to be different, we have to be dumb, they are destroying what we Argentinians love most, Football.

If it wasn't for my love, Racing, I wouldn't even bother looking at this piece of shit football, hell, even a fucking ticket for stadium is expensive these days, and you don't know if you gonna come back to your home alive.


I really dont get the football confederations in south america. They all and Conmebol seem to want to achieve their best at making it suck and fall in comparission to the european football. Its no fucking mistery: 1 twenty team league, playing each other twice, 1 cup with more regional and "rural" teams (AND NO STATE CUP  WITH 20 MATCHES LIKE IN BRAZIL DAMNIT), and the winner of the cup and the top 4 at the league classify to the libertadores. Add with that the exchange to the European season (starting in August ending in April of the next year) and the quality will simply improve, just like that, because of less matches played, public interest and overall attendency, as well as diminishing the effect of player immigration to europe in our clubs, since the players will leave before the season starts, and not in the decisive moments, like it is today.

I mean, in the 2012 season the club that played the most matches in freaking europe was Chelsea with just 59. And that is because it went to the CL final, the club world cup and went ahead in the english cups. That same year, 4/5 brazilian teams (and only 1 of those went to the libertadores final and to the club world cup, Corinthians) played between 70/81 games. And its worse in brazil since in the first half of the season we play 25% of the matches and in the second half we play the remaining 75%.  And i bet it will become worst with this freaking new president of the Brazilian confederation, now he wants to see a return of the  interstate cups. WE ALREADY HAVE THE BLOODY FREAKING LEAGUE GODDAMNIT JUST IMPROVE IT WE DONT NEED ANYTHING ELSE.


ps: what a freaking heroic victory against Cerro Porteno, comon Cruzeiro this libertadores is ours!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 02-05-2014, 17:05:42
Cruzeiro will be facing San Lorenzo right?

If so, fuck them, fuck them really hard, I fucking hate them.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Wulfburk on 02-05-2014, 19:05:23
Yep, San Lorenzo. Pope's team!






Well, you know what they say: Only Jesus saves, but Everton Ribeiro scores on the rebound.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 27-06-2015, 16:06:19
Has anyone else watched any of this Women's World Cup?  I didn't plan to but I've just been surprised by some quality football.  The match yesterday between Germany and France was actually very good. Plus some gorgeous ladies.  :o
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 27-06-2015, 17:06:42
Yeah, and England is currently facing Canada.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33085911

Lend the girls some support, will ya!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 27-06-2015, 17:06:34
I always support England but what with their new slogan this year I'm an even bigger fan.

(http://thesource.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/come-on-our-girls.jpg)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 02-07-2015, 03:07:05
Stupid long ball and 93rd minute own goal?  England goes out of World Cup in most English way possible.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 02-07-2015, 07:07:41
They still need your support against ze Germans.

Anyway, no one expected they made into this round. So give them some credits. The men doesn't even advance to last 16. The girls certainly has delivered more than what is expected from them. Great going girls! Well done Lionesses!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 03-07-2015, 20:07:32
That they do.  I do give them credit, especially for making me care about women's football.  I used to joke about it but I have enjoyed this world cup greatly and have a lot more respect for the women's game.  Copa America final tomorrow too, a nice and unAmerican fourth of July for me.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 05-07-2015, 01:07:39
We did it again!, We lost a final against Chile!


...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 05-07-2015, 05:07:01
Higuain is going to get crucified for that penalty flub.  It's insane that this generation of Argentine players might never get to win a major tournament.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Wulfburk on 05-07-2015, 05:07:51
Messi again coudnt do shit when it mattered (wtih Argentina only of course)



Sucks that Argentina cant win anything to put more pressure on the people that handle brazilian football. (because 7x1 wasnt enough)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 05-07-2015, 20:07:03
I'd rather blame Higuain, Aguero, Banega, Demichelis, Gago, Di María, Zabaleta..., instead of Messi, and above them all comes Martino, he, who crashed a Ferrari (Barcelona).

There are several players in the National Team that should not be called ever again, cases like the inexplicable Gago (why do we still insist...), Banega, Higuaín... others like Di María might still have credit...

Messi gets all the flak, that's oportunism. The guy was marked with fouls and rough play by Chilean players, but we can't deny Argentina went on to play this game with a loser's mentality, instead of taking it like a Final some players thought this was some kind of Friendly with a full stadium and a cup in play..., his teammates just suck, he's not part of a superb trident (MSN, Messi, Suarez and Neymar) he has to do everything so that his teammates can score a f goal.

Semi Finals against Paraguay he took part in like 5 out of 6 goals, he didn't score yes, but he assisted in all of them. He was negated, again, by Chile but he still had that amazing 90' run that only a Maradona-like player can do which almost ended in a goal..., if only Lavezzi was not so terrible (Never again).

People expect Messi to get the ball and score, they think it's like in PES or FIFA, pure individualism..., guess what, Football is a pure and perfect team game. Others want Messi fighting with everyone for everything, with the ref, rival players, crowd, I don't know who else..., a Maradona but in spirit, but for that we have Mascherano, I want Messi to play not to get stupid Yellows or Reds because he has a little bit of "attitude"..., you don't know how terrible Messi is treated in the field by the inferior defenders, if he's going to protest or get a fight for every one of these situations he wouldn't be playing anymore...

The AntiMessi Army always says "He never plays like he does in Barcelona", that's true, perhaps because in Barcelona the coach, the whole club makes teams around him. They supplied Messi with NEYMAR and SUAREZ, thus making it the deadliest attack in the world so far, plus the experience of Xavi (no longer in the club, yes), Iniesta, Alves..., he has teammates that assosiate with him, instead of random figures thrown in the play with Messi and hope for the best.

This generation of players, mentioned above, must go. There needs to be room for promising stars like Correa, Vietto, Icardi (I dislike him a lot...), Mancuello, Lollo among others, Martino needs to go, someone young and with fresh ideas needs to take place (I'd like Bielsa again, though, he changed Chile's mentality for example) or Simeone, but he won't take that spot..., not yet at least.

We're no longer a superpower right now, we got on to two finals but we were not a destructive machine in the 2014 WC, Germany was, we did pretty well in Copa America (unstoppable attacks vs Colombia for example, but lack of definition), I'd say we're the England of South America, once a Power, promising but always runs out of gas...

Then again, Messi is a "Cold Chest", those who don't feel anything with playing important games..., despite winning how many Champions Leagues?, perfect performances in crucial UCL matches?, against his eternal rival Cristiano Ronaldo and his Real Madrid?...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CH0_AwkWUAA36zh.jpg)

(https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t31.0-8/10257263_830659263685787_6251292139636279942_o.jpg)

He's awful...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILUfdwpqy48

1:26...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Wulfburk on 05-07-2015, 20:07:08
I agree with that, but really if you are the england of South America, what that makes Brazil  ;D? Portugal of South America? (Ronaldo +10)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 06-07-2015, 18:07:44
No, I think Argentina has a very strong lineup in the front. Higuain, Lavezzi, Aguero.

It is just a bad play. And yes, Messi is the best playah in teh world. It is just that everyone seems not too motivated playing for Argentina.

Brazil seems to receive more enthusiasm from its players, but they seemed to have ditched that long missed Jogo Bonito thing. It makes them looks really bad when losing.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 06-07-2015, 22:07:50
No, I think Argentina has a very strong lineup in the front. Higuain, Lavezzi, Aguero.


That's a bold statement to make after how I just say them play.  Especially Lavezzi.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Sgt.KAR98 on 06-07-2015, 23:07:47
Well,Argentina lost,and I have no idea why. Also,I expected a match full of kicks...and punches,and grabs,and KOs and red cards. More than Chile x Uruguay,considering the short temper from the argentinian players and the extra-unfairplay the chileans were displaying,specially Vidal.

But at least nuestros hermanos reached the final,instead of losing for Paraguay at the penalties...again.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 07-07-2015, 04:07:31
Lavezzi has proven himself back in Inter Milan. Aguero says a lot with his performance in City, unless you say that EPL is rubbish. Higuain, well...

Yes, Ezequiel might be trolling with his poor show both in last World Cup and this Copa America. But he certainly has potential.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 28-08-2015, 00:08:47
About a year Ago, El Principe returned to his first love, Racing Club.


He, a man forgotten by his own Nation, returned to carry Racing to a new title, winning the Primera División Tournament that same year..., a title Racing has not won since 2001.

It's safe to say he is my all-time favorite player now, he could have choosen places like the US, Qatar, India, Australia or one of those "Paradises" for players that are in their twilights, but he choose Racing, his home.

He is THE Captain, THE Brains, I love him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXPE2IuKRtQ
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 23-09-2015, 15:09:02
Robert Lewandoski  :o
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 10-10-2015, 01:10:41
Argentina lost another time.

With Messi injured, it was up to the remaining 11 wooden dolls to meet mighty Ecuador in Buenos Aires.


2-0 for the visitors.



It was probably in 1993 when we lost our last HOME match for a World Cup Qualifier, it was a 0-5 vs Colombia.


Proof that Argentina is Messi+10.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 10-10-2015, 02:10:10
Well, not just Messi who is disappointing. Mostly it is Aguero, especially when seeing how well he is doing in Man. City. I guess most of the players feel that the national team atmosphere to be pretty bad compared to their club.

Now,

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/33543936

Is it likely that we won't see the Dutch in Euro 2016? This makes me very sad. Along with Croatia (they have many great talents currently).
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 10-10-2015, 07:10:08
The biggest problem in the National Team is the coach.

Martino sucks, here we like to use the term "Crashing a Ferrari", he crashed it while he was in Barcelona. Martino just doesn't have a single idea on how to fucking make this team work. I mean, we lost a Copa America final to CHILE, they never won a Copa América before, they have barely scored a few times against Argentina during Copa America history, they barely have a couple of wins against us in the overall record.


We need to call Icardi, I don't like his attitude, when he had problems with Maxi Lopez and his wife, who is now Icardi's wife. He is a great talent.

Correa from Atlético Madrid is a promising player, needs more time, so is Dybala from Juventus. We also have a couple more, like Vietto from the Madrid squad. Just starting, I saw him play here in Racing Club and he was quite impressive.


We wasted talents like Diego Milito, which simply cannot be explained, and Lisandro Lopez.




We don't deserve a World Cup. Messi does, but we don't.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 10-10-2015, 16:10:02
The biggest problem in the National Team is the coach.

Don't worry, man!

When Tottenham have several Premier League, FA, League Cup and Champions League titles I bet Pochettino will happily manage Argentina  ;)

COME ON YOU SPURS
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: th_battleaxe on 10-10-2015, 17:10:23
Well, not all can be blamed on the coach. Look at Mourinho, he's a decent, albeit dictatorial, coach who would normally settle for nothing less than the 3 points. And look where they are now!

At our team (KV Mechelen), we've got Aleksandar Jankovic as coach. A well-respected coach with lots of experience. Last season, after a slow start, we got on a roll and didn't lose a single match for ages. Now, we've got only nine points after 10 games with exactly the same team (bar the goalkeeper and Ivan Obradovic) as last season.

What caused this pathetic performance? We don't know. Several key players are not in last year's form by a long shot. Our forward, Veselinovic, looks even more like a giraffe and spends more time with his face in the turf than he did last year. I don't know why he is being kept on instead of a talented Leal who is gathering dust on the side.

Edit: welcome back Rawhide!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 10-10-2015, 18:10:36
The biggest problem in the National Team is the coach.

Martino sucks, here we like to use the term "Crashing a Ferrari", he crashed it while he was in Barcelona. Martino just doesn't have a single idea on how to fucking make this team work. I mean, we lost a Copa America final to CHILE, they never won a Copa América before, they have barely scored a few times against Argentina during Copa America history, they barely have a couple of wins against us in the overall record.


Well I can excuse it because Chile is at their top recently with Alexis Sánchez and Arturo Vidal doing great. This duo is arguably better than the Zamorano-Salas era at the front. But then again, it is hardly comparable to Argentina, with Messi, Aguero, Mascherano, Di María.

If we can't blame the coach, the players, the team. Then what about the whole atmosphere? Because, it seems that the mood is always melancholic in Argentinian side. Everybody seemed to be ready to cry weeping whether they won the match or lost it. As if the whole game (or tournament) is a tragedy unfolding. This is pretty similar to the pessimistic England, there are expectations that things will go wrong.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 14-10-2015, 04:10:37
Argentine football is one big tragedy. We're in total decadency.



0-0 vs Paraguay.

Excellent!, it's Paraguay after all, no world power. They're humble but quite organized on the defense at least, with a couple of good-foot attackers/wingers, should be a no-match for Argentina, for historic reasons. But it was awful, our players getting the ball and running straight for the central defenders and doing NOTHING, just running, as if you were a super terrible FIFA player. Tévez is one big lie, but the media likes him so he plays.

1 out of 6 points, the next few matches are going to be Brazil, Colombia and I believe Uruguay. We're expected to have Messi by the Brazil match, I hope so.

Sure, he won't fix the defense, the faulty players, no, but at least up front we have someone with creativity.


One funny thing, during the last 30 seconds of the match Di Maria steps up to take a free kick against a single Paraguayan defense as barrier.


He hits the barrier.




(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRPj3X1WIAAImQ7.jpg:large)


What's so fucking funny?, oh, it's Lavezzi. Why is he still here, again?.


I feel less Argentinian as time goes by.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 14-10-2015, 21:10:23
Argentine football is one big tragedy. We're in total decadency.
Same here, our team has not even qualified for Euro 2016, while that tournament has been enlarged so 24 countries can participate. Which means that since we got 3rd last WC, we have plunged down to not even the best 24 countries of Europe.

And the best thing is: the football association is not gonna change anything in order to improve this situation.

I think both Argentina and our team suffer from the same disease: dependance of the team towards one player. Argentina depends too much on Messi, and we depend too much on Robben.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 14-10-2015, 21:10:17
Robben van Persie's playing some great total football though.  Striker on both sides of the pitch.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 15-10-2015, 00:10:38
Yeah I couldn't believe you guys couldn't make it to the EURO 2016. I haven't been following European football lately, except for a few Juventus matches, is Robben injured?.


Having a 2nd-line Domestic League doesn't help either.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 15-10-2015, 22:10:11
is Robben injured?
Yup, and apparently the teamspirit went with him.

Our entire concept of football still dates from the 70s, our coaches have always played and are educated in trainin g the 4-3-3 system, but it is outdated. The entire world knows how to counter it now, even (with all due respect) smaller countries like Iceland. But our coaches are stubborn and still believe it can be done. And our national football association consists of bureaucrats who are pretty conservative, so they aren't about to change anything.

I know it is bad to make decisions based entirely on bad emtions, but I'm afraid they will wait too long with changing anything so we won't be present on the next WC and next EC either. Maybe in 2022, who knows.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Born2Kill 007 on 15-10-2015, 22:10:03
Meanwhile in Belgium ...  ;D

No.1 in the world ranking, fuck yeah
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Capten_C on 15-10-2015, 22:10:35
Meanwhile in Belgium ...  ;D

No.1 in the world ranking, fuck yeah

Congrats Belgium! Thanks for the 4pts btw!  ;)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 15-10-2015, 23:10:14
FIFA ranking means next to nothing, NL has been nr 1 too, you don't get a prize for it or anything.

But Belgium can have their fun now, we had it for the past 30 years ;) So now it's payback time for Belgium and I totally get that. I will probably support their team in France 2016.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 16-10-2015, 00:10:17
Belgium has been doing very well lately, good for them.


We were also No.1 above Germany just because we played two finals in a row (and lost both of them!).


FIFA ranking sucks, Wales is also in the Top 10 I believe.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 16-10-2015, 01:10:01
Wales looks pretty good though. But everyone knows FIFA rankings don't mean a lot. Chile should be much higher, for example.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 18-10-2015, 23:10:26
Belgium has been doing very well lately, good for them.


We were also No.1 above Germany just because we played two finals in a row (and lost both of them!).


FIFA ranking sucks, Wales is also in the Top 10 I believe.
At least you can take some consolation in that you're bloody good at rugby.  You absolutely wrecked us today, I'll be cheering for the Argies the rest of the World Cup.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: th_battleaxe on 17-12-2015, 19:12:20
Holy Mothers of the Gods! Mourinho had been sacked.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 17-12-2015, 20:12:44
Sounds like a job for Brendan Rodgers.  ;D
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Sgt.KAR98 on 18-12-2015, 07:12:20
Damn,I'm missing the FIFA's Club World Cup. Just saw River won and I thought they had the won the championship. Need to watch the final,and semi.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 02-05-2016, 23:05:54
So Leicester's won it.  Is this the most colossal upset in sports history?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: RAnDOOm on 02-05-2016, 23:05:10
I would say so. The odds of them winning at the beginning were identical to the odds on Elvis Presley being found alive this year: 5,000-1 against.


Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 03-05-2016, 00:05:01
Incredible.


I kinda like Tottenham in the EPL, sucks that they have to lose it against Leicester...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 03-05-2016, 11:05:49
Back in 2001, I was hating to see the upstart Chievo succeeded in toppling the Serie A frequenters, especially AC Milan. The same way I was favouring Schumacher over Hakkinen.

But in 2016, I am elated to see the Foxes made it. Probably I have successfully grown up to symphatise with the underdogs.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 04-05-2016, 00:05:28
Today's match between Bayern Munchen and Atletico de Madrid is one of these matches you have to watch if you're not a football fan, it was just incredible.


Football is more than a game...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 22-05-2016, 04:05:03
Today was the last match of Diego Milito for Racing in our home stadium. While it's not technically his last game in his professional career (he has one more game to go for the local cup, Copa Argentina), we can still consider it his last one.

And I was there to say goodbye, he scored a penalty goal and missed a second one, because even legends  can still have one of these days..., the whole stadium was full, everyone in it for El Principe. When he left the pitch, it was hard to contain these tears, a true legend was just walking away.

Underrated, he was barely used in the National Team, which is why I barely see Argentina's matches (I just watch them if Messi is playing), along with another pretty damn good striker, Lisandro López, who also returned to Racing.

A leader, what a player.

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Sgt.KAR98 on 09-06-2016, 07:06:42
Anyone watching Copa America? Torenico?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 11-06-2016, 00:06:37
Yeah, but just the Argentinian match(es) so far.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 12-06-2016, 09:06:57
Great win against Panama, what a show! Best luck for the Argentinians. I think Messi deserve to shine in his national team.

Now, to Euro 2016. The English team is as always, jinxed themselves to disappointing result. But then, you have to admit that Russia showed quite a strong performance. Akinfeev could be the hero, his saves are decisive. The same goes to Joe Hart, but Chris Smalling weakness in aerial attack was very clear last night.

Slovakia, Albania, these minnows really showed their worth against the stronger team, I actually liked them, especially Albania still showing strong resistance with just 10 players. Good thing the keepers on all sides performed very well. Wales and Switzerland was lucky.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Rawhide on 12-06-2016, 14:06:53
Euro's so far...

France, GG WP.
Romania, great leader Vlad Chiriches will fix this
Switzerland, lucky lol but gg wp
Albania, pls no aim wth
Wales, first win ever wp gz
Slovakia, y u no defend
England, y Roy do u do tis, bad sub
Russia, great draw for motherland
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 12-06-2016, 16:06:52
Great win against Panama, what a show! Best luck for the Argentinians. I think Messi deserve to shine in his national team.

Yeah, but just him alone. The other players, playing against a weak team that is Panama, couldn't really break their defense until Messi came in, we depend so much on him. Other than that, this should be it, we have to win this Cup...

As for the Euro, I hope for a good Italian performance..., but I don't think so.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 12-06-2016, 17:06:03
I am rooting for the Blue, the Azurri as always. But historical patterns say, of consistently good-bad-good-bad performance, that the Italians should do relatively well. Euro 2004 - group stage, WC 2006 - Champion, Euro 2008 - Quarter Final, WC 2010 - group stage, Euro 2012 - Final, WC 2014 - group stage.

I am starting to develop some love for England, but their reliance on domestic player's popularity is frustrating. It is good that they seemed to have designated The Spurs as English' Barcelona FC (many players are familiar with each other, from Kane, Alli, to Dier). But unlike the Barça, The Spurs is a minnow amongst European Champions League clubs. They really need to measure up their domestic competition.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 12-06-2016, 18:06:01

Now, to Euro 2016. The English team is as always, jinxed themselves to disappointing result. But then, you have to admit that Russia showed quite a strong performance. Akinfeev could be the hero, his saves are decisive. The same goes to Joe Hart, but Chris Smalling weakness in aerial attack was very clear last night.


Masters of the 1-1 loss.  Out of curiosity, why do you support the Italians?  I can't expect much out of them this year.  Where will there goals come from? After De Rossi the next highest scorer is Chielleni with only 6. 

My main worry is that of an early Euro Brexit, I'd hate to see England, Norn Iron and Wales all go crashing out early.  Ireland too, for that matter. 
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 12-06-2016, 20:06:54
Dunno, childhood memories perhaps? Back then, everybody seemed to be rooting for either Juventus or AC Milan. Del Piero was very popular, he even did an interview for a children magazine here. The Serie A was broadcasted by the most experienced private TV company in Indonesia. A lot of tie-ins as well, such as Liga Italia magazine and Panini sticker album. I was instant Tifosi, a long with my brother.

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-cqsO7dcBJ2A/Vxh7cHW4ciI/AAAAAAAADtY/W1dnv0KX0RwZX9zKX-xQAaEj3k3k2FqHgCLcB/s1600/liga%2Bitalia.jpg)

We even learned a lot of Italian football terms from RAI cable, how to count from 1 to 22, and how to curse. It all ended after the Calciopoli and winning the World Cup at the same time. Nobody broadcasted Serie for the next 2 years here.

As of current squad, I expect completely nothing, even from Daniele De Rossi, Motta, Chielini, Candreva, and friends. I believe they are still a safer bet than the English team.

Both England and Italy loved to call exclusively domestic club players. But none has been as annoyingly anti-outsiders as England, and it kind of failing them.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 12-06-2016, 23:06:11

Both England and Italy loved to call exclusively domestic club players. But none has been as annoyingly anti-outsiders as England, and it kind of failing them.

I think there's a bit of a cause-and-effect mix up here.  There really aren't that many English players in outside leagues to even call up.  For the most part, they're either youth team members or aging stars gone to the MLS, and honestly, who can blame them?  Why go to foreign leagues when you get fat checks playing in the Championship League? 
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 13-06-2016, 05:06:53
Brasil is OUT from Copa América, Groups Stage.

A pretty weak performance from the Brazilian squad overall, they lost today 1-0 against Perú with a goal that shouldn't have been awarded:

http://www.goal.com/en/match/brazil-vs-peru/2178764/report

They destroyed Haití 7-1 but it wasn't enough, but that result seems oddly familiar.


Bah, you deserve it Brasil, for celebrating Germany's victory in 2014, even after they erased you from existence.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 13-06-2016, 08:06:26

Both England and Italy loved to call exclusively domestic club players. But none has been as annoyingly anti-outsiders as England, and it kind of failing them.

I think there's a bit of a cause-and-effect mix up here.  There really aren't that many English players in outside leagues to even call up.  For the most part, they're either youth team members or aging stars gone to the MLS, and honestly, who can blame them?  Why go to foreign leagues when you get fat checks playing in the Championship League?

Really? Or is there a lack of demand from outside the isles? :P

The current Italian squad has players playing in EPL and La Liga clubs, but Roy's picking are all exclusively EPL club players.

Even in the biggest EPL club, the English starting players share is getting lesser and even lesser. MU used to host a lot of top English stars, but now they only contribute an aging but ineffective attacker and a handful of mediocre defenders. I don't think the FA should impose player quota, but they really need to work out an experiment where they develop and nurture a squad of young English players in a designated club, much like Spain's project with FC Barcelona and Germany with Bayern Munich.

It is weird, because I happen to know a lot of English professionals working all over Europe. Some major Japanese pharmaceutical company operations in Europe? Headed by an Northern Englishman living in Switzerland. Some big American company operations in China? Headed by an Indian Englishman. A country head of German company in Indonesia? You bet, a Londoner occupy that position.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 13-06-2016, 23:06:30
Well Zoo, I guess I take it back.  Belgium's inability to perform like they should is such a disappointment.  Reminds me of...  England.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 14-06-2016, 01:06:11
Belgium's summer is over.


Come at me bro.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 14-06-2016, 02:06:32
Belgium's summer is over.


Come at me bro.

The Belgian team is still very young, so that's a bit pessimistic.  But the early years of the Golden Generation have not been up to much.  Hazard looked alright today, however. 
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 14-06-2016, 10:06:18
Hazard, De Bruyne Fellaini, Benteke, Vermaelen, Dembele, and Kompany (injured). Still names only, and a lot to proof. FIFA ranking says they are number one in the world, but I never get the impression. They are more of a collection of superstars than a decent team.

English team, the EPL proof is still not enough I guess. We need to know how well they fared in let's say, Real Madrid, Barcelona, AS Roma, Juventus, or Dortmund for instance.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Hjaldrgud on 14-06-2016, 13:06:41
Italy... ugh.  Utterly disgusting.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 14-06-2016, 21:06:47
Italy... ugh.  Utterly disgusting.
What's so disgusting about them? They played a good match yesterday and scored two very nice goals. They were also booked some 5 times, yes, but there wasn't much dirty play or anything. Austria today was much worse.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 15-06-2016, 01:06:57
Lol, Cristiano...
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 15-06-2016, 15:06:34
I believe he is talking about the Calciopoli and match fixing scandals that is rampant in Italy.

Yea... but most of the matches in this Euro 2016 are all suspiciously pro-house. This includes Uruguay's miraculous 3-0 win over Jamaica in the Copa America, which happens in the second half. Extremely fishy.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Berkolok on 15-06-2016, 16:06:28
 only 22 goal for 12 match currenly  :'(
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Berkolok on 15-06-2016, 16:06:16
and why they never show hot chicks in tribune when game stops?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 16-06-2016, 17:06:37
A lot of last minute goals in this tournament. Including England's 2-1 win.

Finally, some late realisation from Hodgson. Both his substitutes produced results. Both are done from only 6 metres away from the goal line. It really shows how the team depends on lapses and inefficient repeated attempts, requiring to posses the ball all the time (nearly 80% in 2nd half).

Although played relatively okay, Rooney should be let go. There are other far more effective player left in the England's bench.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 17-06-2016, 04:06:11
Sadly I can't watch Euro matches here, must have DirecTV or some shit like that. It's a shame, Euros are like World Cups without Argentina and Brasil...

About the Copa América, it has to be ours. Uruguay is out, Brasil sucks and is also out, Colombia is nothing too-convincing (We destroyed them last time we faced them in Copa America), Chile is not great either, the rest should collapse when Messi is 100% ready.

If we lose it, we shall never win a title ever again.

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 17-06-2016, 12:06:12
Come on... your way to Copa America is laid with red carpet. Messi could put on a sideshow while walking to the podium.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: THeTA0123 on 17-06-2016, 13:06:28
Someone at worked betted for fun yesterday "Germany-poland 0-0"

He fucking won 200 euro........
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 17-06-2016, 14:06:29
On Reddit someone bet 5,000 euro on Portugal beating Iceland  ;D
Sadly I can't watch Euro matches here, must have DirecTV or some shit like that. It's a shame, Euros are like World Cups without Argentina and Brasil...

About the Copa América, it has to be ours. Uruguay is out, Brasil sucks and is also out, Colombia is nothing too-convincing (We destroyed them last time we faced them in Copa America), Chile is not great either, the rest should collapse when Messi is 100% ready.

If we lose it, we shall never win a title ever again.



I'm kind of excited for the USA-Argentina match if you beat Venezuela.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 17-06-2016, 21:06:00
I'm a bit shocked by the amount of violence in France at this EC. After the clashes between fans in the cities, there have been several fights inside stadiums too now. Russians vs English, and today Croatians vs Czech fans. There was even some fireworks including an exploding one. I thought France was at 200% security level for terrorism, but apparently they are forgetting about the hooligans or something.

Fortunately there are still fans who can just have fun and party.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 18-06-2016, 16:06:23
The English and Welsh fans! They both sung the national anthem "God Save The Queen" near 80th minute together.

The English was rather notorious for their hooliganism, but the Irish and the Welsh are the nices people I've ever known.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Hjaldrgud on 18-06-2016, 20:06:48
Goddammit! Shiiiiiiit! RIP Iceland :'(
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: THeTA0123 on 18-06-2016, 20:06:01
Sorry ireland, Belgian can into pathethic football
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Capten_C on 18-06-2016, 21:06:33
The English and Welsh fans! They both sung the national anthem "God Save The Queen" near 80th minute together.

The English was rather notorious for their hooliganism, but the Irish and the Welsh are the nices people I've ever known.

I don't think so mate!  :D Welsh fans would never sing GSTQ, it was more a case of  them singing Hen Wlad Fy Nhadau (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuaMv5wqTt0) to raise spirits as a 12th man, and the English responded with their GSTQ ;) 
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 19-06-2016, 09:06:12
Is this the final where they beat the English?  ;D

I know that Scots would preferred Scotland the Brave, but I don't know that Welsh are as much into that. So, "Land of My Father", a great hymn.

BTW, your name was Captain Cymru, wasn't it? Why put off the Wales Gallic name?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 19-06-2016, 15:06:31
I found out that there's only one channel here that would broadcast the Euro, that is owned by the City's Government but will only broadcast just one match per day.

I was able to watch bits from the Portugal-Austria match, that sucks for CR7, it seems that without Bale he is abosolutely nothing, what a disappointment.

On America, we beat Venezuela 4-1, Higuain scored twice, Messi scored and Lamela scored too. Messi is now the top goalscorer in the National Team along with that beast known by the name of Gabriel Batistuta, 54.

So that means we're facing the US in the semifinals, on the other side, Chile destroyed Mexico 7-0 which was unexpected, and now they're facing Colombia, who barely won against Perú from the penalty spot (Their GK, Ospina, commited several fouls on the penalty rounds...).

We should get the US out of the way and destroy Chile on the finals, we need our sweet revenge.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 21-06-2016, 00:06:30
Nice, Wales winner of the group. The bookmakers are gonna make a lot of money tonight :)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Sgt.KAR98 on 22-06-2016, 06:06:53
I'm late,but,whatever.

That Brazil x Peru match. I didn't have high expectations on Brazil at all,but the "La Mano de Díos" remake was,at least,outrageous. Not that Brazil would beat Peru if that didn't happen,but Ruidias deserved a red card for that.

Chile x Mexico was expected to be an even match,with a few goals,maybe from both sides. Instead,Chile mauled Mexico in front of thousands of appalled mexican supporters. There was a report of people calling La Roja "Chilemanha" (Chilermany).

Argentina is doing very well,specially Messi. I remember well that not long ago,when Messi was with Argentina,he couldn't play 10% of his football as when he was at Barcelona.

Trying to watch the Euro,but the matches are happening at schedules that I'm busy. Fortunately,there's a channel (not paid) here that is broadcasting all the matches (or almost all) and is not unusual to see a bar or a bakery with a TV on,so I can have a glance at the matches.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Seth_Soldier on 22-06-2016, 19:06:26
It looks like Irish fans have already won the euro !

https://www.facebook.com/PunditArenaLOI/videos/vb.124047700971240/1173854219323911/?type=2&theater

They also successfully emptied most of the french brewery tanks in Lille in a record time !
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Slayer on 22-06-2016, 20:06:57
The new setup of Euro Championship makes it almost impossible to NOT qualify for 1/8 finals. In the tournament there is now a strong and a weak side, with Spain, France, England, Germany and Italy all being on one side so only one of those can reach the final.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 22-06-2016, 21:06:40
I am largely disappointed by Italy's performance. The match against the Sweden could be the most boring game of the tournament.

Spain, Germany, and France are the only teams that has been making strong and solid show throughout their games. Too bad for the smaller teams that display such bravery. Last night, the Northern Ireland was very brave and put up quite a fight.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 23-06-2016, 00:06:57
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trYIyfctlnA

Christ, that goal could be seen a million times and it will still be amazing. Argentina dominated the US from the very start, since 3' after the game started we scored with Lavezzi, thanks to a brilliant pass by Messi.

The US was really lost, they couldn't mount any effective attack, players like Bradley were totally overwhelmed.

But 30 years ago, this happened:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NrJuU0Kw2w

It is said that the first goal, the famous "Hand of God" is worth nothing, because of being illegal, but we all agree the second one is so amazing, that it should be worth two goals instead of one.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 23-06-2016, 04:06:13
It looks like Irish fans have already won the euro !

https://www.facebook.com/PunditArenaLOI/videos/vb.124047700971240/1173854219323911/?type=2&theater

They also successfully emptied most of the french brewery tanks in Lille in a record time !

http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2016/06/17/irish-fans-rescue-kidnapped-schoolgirls-from-boko-haram/
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Sgt.KAR98 on 25-06-2016, 01:06:13
I started supporting the boys in green since the 2012 Euro. They won't go very far,but the party they make at group stage is comparable only to a few teams that won the WC.

Damn,another team I was supporting was Sweden,and I had hopes they would beat Belgium with Ibra. He didn't score,but Belgium did. His career is over now. I've saw swedish jerseys with his name and number at souvenir shops while on Sweden,but couldn't find any other than children's size. :-(
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 27-06-2016, 05:06:29
With tears in my eyes, I say goodbye to the once-glorious La Selección.

Losing two finals in a row against Chile is enough. One thing is losing against Germany, who is by far the greatest rival we ever had in World Cup history, another, much different, is Chile, who in 40 years defeated us only once, but manage to win just on the penalties.

Enough is enough. We have the Best Player in the Planet, who missed a penalty today, but we can't use him, we don't know how, we just don't. Meanwhile, we have humble Wales and their Star, Bale, an entire team playing for one player, making sure he can do whatever he wants. Argentina, it's all about failing now. It has been a long time since we won a title. My local club, Racing, is famous for not winning a single title in 35 years, an entire life for some. Still, I was born in 1993, two years after Argentina won their last title, Copa América 1993 Edition in Ecuador. In 2001 I saw Racing ending that 35-years long draught, we did it again in 2014 with legendary Diego Milito as our spearhead. La Selección, with players like Batistuta, Crespo, Ortega, Verón, Sorín, Aimar, Messi, Mascherano, Aguero, Higuain even the Legend Himself, Maradona, couldn't deliver another title for us. So, in my 22 years of life I never saw any Argentinian player bringing a Copa América or World Cup home, and we had enough material to do that several times.

And so, they failed once again. Did we underestimated our rivals?, yes, did we started the game by showing Chile where do we stand in the FIFA Rankings?, yes, do we even know how to play a final?, no, does Messi deserve such pathetic teammates?, hell no.

Despite a terrible referee, severe mistakes were made. Higuain once again missed a clear goal, Aguero once again failed to make an impression, Messi once again was isolated by Martino's terrible decisions, Di Maria once again decides to play on it's own while injured, Romero once again saved Argentina as long as he could.

Are we even going to change?, are we going to sack Ferrari-Crasher Martino?, are we going to stop calling people like Higuain, Aguero and Lavezzi, focusing instead of bringing more of Lamela, more of Angel Correa, Luciano Vietto and forgetting about Icardi's personal life?.

Or are we going to lose a 4th final?.

Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 27-06-2016, 08:06:50
Are you not going to rant about Marcus Rojo getting a red card?

To be honest, you should play like the Germans, no visible drama or the notion about "playing like an elite team". In a tournament, they just play well and win the game. In another games, they experimented with wins and losses.

If you can't go the disciplined, almost militaristic German way, go the Italian way. I was born in 1986, the year when Maradona lift the world cup for Argentina. But I came to the world in September. A bit too late for that. But the hype is all there. Diego Maradona! Nobody expects a midget like him to make a fool out of the world's best team. Also, nobody expects the scandal-embattled 2006 Italy to make it to the finals and gave the much touted French a hard time. All I know in 2006, they already waved good bye to Paolo Maldini, Costacurta, Roberto Baggio, Christian Vieri, Luigi Di Biagio. But Pirlo, Cannavaro, Toni cs proved it wasn't all big names they are after, it was the championship.

My personal rant goes to Sergio Aguero. Yes he is very good attacker. But most of his goodness come from his personal statistics (number of goals in EPL for example). He can't be what the team needs him to be.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 27-06-2016, 15:06:52
Rojo was reckless, but it was no Red Card imo. In fact, I thought the Chilean player Aranguiz was getting the red.



Messi announced he will retire from the National Team. It could be him saying that while being angry, but if he's going to drop out, it's perfectly understandable.

Aguero is "thinking" about it, Mascherano will also most likely drop out too.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Hjaldrgud on 28-06-2016, 00:06:37
Double brexit  ;D

Island!
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 28-06-2016, 03:06:53
Yeah, quite happy about Iceland. One Brexit voters down in humiliation (according to them), one more to go.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Sgt.KAR98 on 29-06-2016, 01:06:46
Yes,England took the Brexit way too serious. The welsh,scots and norn irons must be still having a very hard time trying to stop laughing.

What happened to Argentina,and much more specifically to Messi,was tragic. Seeing his desolation was bad,but hearing he saying he quits was far worse. I really hope he reconsider what he said.
TBH,I was never a Messi fan (nor anti-fan),but preferred him over Neymar and Cristiano Ronaldo. But seeing him score that goal against the US,sending the ball to a spot in the goal where more than 90% of the players will very likely miss,that caught my attention. He is not a slightly better player that people and ads hype to the infinite. He really haves talent.

And argentinians shouldn't be pissed with their national team. Brazil must. In less than 20 years we descended from WC champions and most feared squad in the world to the laughing stock that felt "avenged" from the 2014 WC humiliation by scoring 7 goals on Haiti. All our players know is to take selfies,appearing on ads and having their egos bloated by the TV. At max,they can play at their clubs,but can't play at the national at all,because they feel they're "too good for this s...".
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 29-06-2016, 20:06:57
The gli azzurri came down the field and played with all their heart. It seems that they didn't care about facing the defending champion. They were not fazed playing against the great Andrés Iniesta or Gerard Pique. While other teams tried in vain to defend against the better team using all of their 10 players, the Italians resorted to their classic 3 defending catenaccio without that classic sweeper and their typical unsportsman-like behaviour. That's the Italy I always loved, effectively counter attacking the excessive ball-hogging requirements from Spanish style of play. They are the unexpected big team killer.

The German also developed some effective attacking plays to overcome the bus-parking minnows.

The English meanwhile were facing one of the "minnows" as Martin Keown, the BBC pundit and ex-Arsenal defender said. It will be an easy trip to the quarter finals they said. They never realised how dismal their own tournament records were, and thought themselves as one of the elites just because EPL. Their players are all homegrown, perhaps because EPL were too good already, that foreign leagues are not that interesting. Some argued that the homeboys are being sidelined by other European players in EPL clubs. Really? Nobody thought that no other big European clubs like Real Madrid, FC Bayern, PSG, or Juventus ever wanted them? That they are not as desirable as the British tabloids hyped?

I am seriously pissed by the Three Lions. I want them to be good. They say they are humbled now, but when they luckily defeated Wales in the group stage, I can hear all sorts of inflated promises. It seems that they are trying to defeat the others not by playing the game, but by outdoing them in terms of fame and reputation.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 30-06-2016, 01:06:07
Yes,England took the Brexit way too serious. The welsh,scots and norn irons must be still having a very hard time trying to stop laughing.

What happened to Argentina,and much more specifically to Messi,was tragic. Seeing his desolation was bad,but hearing he saying he quits was far worse. I really hope he reconsider what he said.
TBH,I was never a Messi fan (nor anti-fan),but preferred him over Neymar and Cristiano Ronaldo. But seeing him score that goal against the US,sending the ball to a spot in the goal where more than 90% of the players will very likely miss,that caught my attention. He is not a slightly better player that people and ads hype to the infinite. He really haves talent.

And argentinians shouldn't be pissed with their national team. Brazil must. In less than 20 years we descended from WC champions and most feared squad in the world to the laughing stock that felt "avenged" from the 2014 WC humiliation by scoring 7 goals on Haiti. All our players know is to take selfies,appearing on ads and having their egos bloated by the TV. At max,they can play at their clubs,but can't play at the national at all,because they feel they're "too good for this s...".

Messi should drop from the National Team until Russia 2018. Maradona did something similar, after losing the final against Germany in Italy 90, he dropped from the team until USA 94, a WC Argentina should have won.

Argentina must learn, the hard way, how to play without Messi. So that when we have a defined style, ready for Russia 2018, Messi rejoins the squad and that, that will be much better.


Hope we run into England soon ;)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Capten_C on 02-07-2016, 00:07:35
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarghhh! Caws caled Gwlad Belg!! 3-1 !!    :D ;D ;)
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 02-07-2016, 06:07:24
Congrats Welsh! Good luck with Portugal. They are unusually good against British football teams.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Hjaldrgud on 02-07-2016, 22:07:03
Italy brilliantly manages yet again to kill the fun of football.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 03-07-2016, 04:07:36
so pissed I didn't get to see Neuer and Buffon take penalties
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Ts4EVER on 03-07-2016, 09:07:17
Neuer takes penalties a lot actually.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 03-07-2016, 16:07:49
Italy brilliantly manages yet again to kill the fun of football.

How so?.


Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Sgt.KAR98 on 04-07-2016, 03:07:07
All the teams I was supporting lost. I think I will have a DNA test to prove that Mick Jagger is my father.

The penalties yesterday were the most f'ed up moment of the match. I thought I was watching a rugby match. Last time I've seen so many players missing at penalties was at Boca Juniors match at Libertadores.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 04-07-2016, 05:07:51
Sad, but that win is definitely for Germany. Italy's attack is uncoordinated and relies on individual skill and German's mistakes at best. Buffon did guessed many shots correctly, but sadly he is too old to reach many of them.

Now congrats French! Show the English how to play against "minnows". The ousting of Belgium from the tournament is quite the same. Too many EPL celebrities. You can't win on reputation, says Wales and Iceland.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 06-07-2016, 00:07:02
The Argentina team is in deep shit.

The third consecutive loss in a final did hit us pretty hard. Messi said he will leave, but that is most likely not true because he still has Russia 2018.

Martino left today, he just can't field a proper team for the Rio Olympics. The "big names" will not be coming, Dybala for example, Juventus doesn't want to give it to the national team, for example, while other players, mostly from the domestic league, are not coming in because their clubs are following Juventus' example.

But the chaos is not over, AFA is literally dead. Several clubs, including 4 of the 5 "Big Clubs", left AFA to start their own league, "Super Liga". Maradona himself was sent here to "oversee" and "report" to FIFA directly. AFA is a mess, a total mess. It was the home of another dictator, Julio Grondona, who used to be FIFA's Vice-President from 1988 to 2014, under João Havelange and Blatter. He ruled AFA for 1979 until his Death, in 2014. Well known for being friendly with literally every government, but he is more popular for being a dictator in the World of Football and being extremely corrupt.

AFA was left leaderless when he died, there are several people who are hard-line Grondonistas. One of them is Luis Segura, who was "the President of AFA" but resigned a week ago. AFA held elections last year, and it was a total mess. There were 75 people who could vote for Segura or TV Star and Vice President of San Lorenzo Mercelo Tinelli, however, the elections ended in a impossible 38 votes for each candidate, and from then on, it exploded into pieces.

Now it's a mess, it literally doesn't exist anymore. FIFA could be considering "kicking" AFA out of FIFA for not being stable enough, which puts Argentina in great danger of losing their spot in Russia 2018. Messi complained about AFA during the Copa America, which sparked some controversy. After he decided to leave the National Team, nobody wanted to follow or help Martino for the Olympics, so we might lose our place to Uruguay. Now, without coach, without AFA, without President...

Here's a good article about it:

http://www.goal.com/en/news/1717/editorial/2016/07/05/25358182/no-president-no-coach-no-messi-argentine-football-is-in?ICID=HP_HN_HP_RI_0_3
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 06-07-2016, 05:07:30
Welcome to Indonesia 6 years ago.

Our stupid politicians do interfere though and we got ejected by FIFA. Take 4 years to calm things down. Now we have no league, just random tournaments to keep them occupied. Our main tournament models after MLS' East-West conference.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 10-07-2016, 23:07:27
Yeah! Take that France! After pluckily defeated the Germans. Now they tasted their own medicine.

Congratulations to Portugal, a new European Champion.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 10-07-2016, 23:07:50
Well that was a pretty underwhelming tournament, all said and done.  France hardly deserved to win the final but this Portugal team must be the least impressive to win since Greece in 2004, right?
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 11-07-2016, 02:07:40
Well that was a pretty underwhelming tournament, all said and done.  France hardly deserved to win the final but this Portugal team must be the least impressive to win since Greece in 2004, right?

Oh god, Yes.

And there is this swarm of people calling Ronaldo the greatest ever, when he couldn't complete 30 minutes of the first half (literally he didn't exist in the finals) and had a average tournament in general.

So yeah, it's Greece 2.0, disgusting.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Zoologic on 11-07-2016, 16:07:51
The cycle is 12 years indeed. Denmark in 1992 and Greece in 2004, then Portugal in 2016. It breaks French own 16 years championship cycle (1984 and 2000).

France is like World Cup 2014's Brazil, a media darling. I kinda admired them, but they don't deserve the win against Germany. They were just lucky. Schweini shouldn't superman punch that ball, and what the hell is Hoewedes and Emre Can doing? The French were lucky enough they could caught them ill-disciplined and mishandled the ball on the penalty box area. I wasn't convinced by the play they showed against Germany, that they could handle the Portugal that beat Wales. Even going against Portugal minus Ronaldo, they can't even cut it. It almost beyond the bookmaker's dirty plays that Éder could escape that one defender.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 11-07-2016, 20:07:12
If anybody ever told me that Eder would score the winning goal in a tournament before yesterday, I would hit them so hard in the throat that they vomited out their own Adam's apple.  Truly it was a moment that will live on for Edernity.
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Torenico on 29-11-2016, 23:11:39
The plane that was carrying Brazilian team Chapecoense to face Nacional in Medellín, Colombia, ahead of the first leg of the Copa Sudamericana Final..., crashed leaving all but three players dead, two crew members and one journalist also survived but some are in critical condition. Just 5km away from the City, Chape's dreams ended in the worst way possible.

Chapecoense is a relatively small team in Brazil, not particularly popular. They gained attention after having an amazing run in the Copa Sudamericana (South American version of the Europa League, for context) by eliminating seven times Copa Libertadores Champions Independiente and San Lorenzo, tough clubs to face in such cup. They were going to face Nacional de Medellín (Copa Libertadores Champions) in Colombia...

They join Torino's four-times Scudetti champions squad who all died in 1949 (which Torino never really fully recovered), the Busby Babes of Manchester United who died in 1958 and the Zambia National Football Team of 1994 African Cup of Nations who died in a plane crash.

"If I should die today, I would be happy", Caio Junior, coach of the Chapecoense team said that when departing for Santa Cruz, Bolivia, before heading for Medellín...


RIP
Title: Re: The Great Football thread
Post by: Sgt.KAR98 on 01-12-2016, 02:12:19
The plane that was carrying Brazilian team Chapecoense to face Nacional in Medellín, Colombia, ahead of the first leg of the Copa Sudamericana Final..., crashed leaving all but three players dead, two crew members and one journalist also survived but some are in critical condition. Just 5km away from the City, Chape's dreams ended in the worst way possible.

Chapecoense is a relatively small team in Brazil, not particularly popular. They gained attention after having an amazing run in the Copa Sudamericana (South American version of the Europa League, for context) by eliminating seven times Copa Libertadores Champions Independiente and San Lorenzo, tough clubs to face in such cup. They were going to face Nacional de Medellín (Copa Libertadores Champions) in Colombia...

They join Torino's four-times Scudetti champions squad who all died in 1949 (which Torino never really fully recovered), the Busby Babes of Manchester United who died in 1958 and the Zambia National Football Team of 1994 African Cup of Nations who died in a plane crash.

"If I should die today, I would be happy", Caio Junior, coach of the Chapecoense team said that when departing for Santa Cruz, Bolivia, before heading for Medellín...


RIP

Heard someone commenting about a plane accident yesterday,but I thought it was something old. Just when I managed to take a look at my cellphone I realized that the plane carrying the entire Chapecoense team had crashed. It's really bad,they were finally at their apogee,probably the farthest they have ever reached,and that thing happened... IDK what will be of the Sudamericana title,if it will really go to Chapecoense as Atlético Nacional abdicated from it,but nobody knows what Conmebol will do.

Right now there's a large tribute happening at Medellin's stadium,were they would be playing tonight.
May the passengers rest in peace and Chapecoense have a fast recovery. Força Chape!