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Offline IrishReloaded

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Jagdpanther, JgPIV, Hetzer
« on: 18-10-2011, 16:10:46 »
The outside sitting positions on those vehicles are rather strange
1) Jagdpanther
Why is the soldier sitting infront, where there is pretty less space, and where he cant hold on, when in the rear of the vehicle is plenty of room? Also give one or 2 more seats to the vehicle, its so big, with enough space on the engine deck for a whole squad in real life.

2) Jagdpanzer IV
With this tank its even worse.
3 Seats, no mg. Its the anti squad vehicle. But it has enough space in the rear too, to allow 4 seats there imo. That the mg port is closed is sad, but I can understand it.
What I also miss is some unique driving feeling with this tank, as it was extrem head heavy, but it just feels like driving some panzer IV without turret.

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Hetzer. Im rather dissapointed by the Hetzer. The frontarmour should be 60mm at 60° angle. But when fighting against it, I have the feeling as the angle doesnt count on this vehicle. Its almost ever one shot one kill against front. And I also have the feeling that when you shot the side from the front you can kill it too.
Also Hetzer should be faster, therefore reloading much slower, something like 3-4 sec longer.

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Re: Jagdpanther, JgPIV, Hetzer
« Reply #1 on: 18-10-2011, 16:10:55 »
I 100% agreed with this (dunno is making JgPIV head heavy possible)

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Re: Jagdpanther, JgPIV, Hetzer
« Reply #2 on: 18-10-2011, 16:10:02 »
afaik soldiers aren't even sitting on the Jagdpanther, they just float in the air

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Re: Jagdpanther, JgPIV, Hetzer
« Reply #3 on: 18-10-2011, 16:10:50 »
jan, sure you can code the drivingabilites of tanks, just take a look at marder I

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Re: Jagdpanther, JgPIV, Hetzer
« Reply #4 on: 18-10-2011, 18:10:58 »
1) Yes, Jagdpanther needs those seats

2)  I have no idea why the Jagdpanzer's MG is blocked out.  I haven't used it yet, so is this true?  That's kinda stupid....  And yes, it should have more riding spots too on back.

3)  I've noted several times that the Hetzer should have a longer reload due to the poor loader placement (irl, the loader was seated to the right of the gun instead of the left, causing him to have to reach over top of the gun to load it, instead of just right next to him).

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Re: Jagdpanther, JgPIV, Hetzer
« Reply #5 on: 18-10-2011, 18:10:04 »
Hetzer has already had frontal upped and pzg40 removed.
Funny how all these suggestions are posted after implementation.

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Re: Jagdpanther, JgPIV, Hetzer
« Reply #6 on: 18-10-2011, 18:10:54 »
But what about load time :P

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Re: Jagdpanther, JgPIV, Hetzer
« Reply #7 on: 18-10-2011, 18:10:57 »
Hetzer has already had frontal upped and pzg40 removed.
Funny how all these suggestions are posted after implementation.
So any positive changes for the allied tanks? Or some reducement of german tanks on certain maps?

Maps like luttich are fucked up now with stronger german tanks and HVAP removal
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Re: Jagdpanther, JgPIV, Hetzer
« Reply #8 on: 18-10-2011, 18:10:52 »
So any positive changes for the allied tanks? Or some reducement of german tanks on certain maps?

Maps like luttich are fucked up now with stronger german tanks and HVAP removal



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Re: Jagdpanther, JgPIV, Hetzer
« Reply #9 on: 18-10-2011, 18:10:11 »
please stay serios!
Lüttich has more strong german tanks, as in really every bush is a bazooka. And on Allied side you got M10 and a 76mm Sherman, pretty fair imo. 100s of Zooks + M10 + 76mm Sherman vs 2 Panther, Panzer IV and a pretty useless StugIII.

but this topic is not about Lüttich!

What does "reducement of german tanks on certain maps" to do with Hetzers bugged front.
Hetzer is now nothing more then driving pak40 that had groupsex with a mg34 a motor and some wheels.

In addition I have the feeling that the Kingtigers schürzen are coded in a strange way, as I remeber that when I fire there with any gun it bounces off. - Well Angle system is rather strange anyway

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Re: Jagdpanther, JgPIV, Hetzer
« Reply #10 on: 18-10-2011, 18:10:53 »
But what about load time :P

yes, these have been restandardized to reflect caliber and such things already.

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Re: Jagdpanther, JgPIV, Hetzer
« Reply #11 on: 18-10-2011, 19:10:52 »
Yeah, but I'm referring to the fact that it had a much longer  load time than other TD's due to the loader's placement in the fighting compartment.


And @Irish:  The Hetzer WAS basically just a driving Pak40.

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Re: Jagdpanther, JgPIV, Hetzer
« Reply #12 on: 18-10-2011, 19:10:53 »
but with 60mm at 60° angle frontarmour!

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Re: Jagdpanther, JgPIV, Hetzer
« Reply #13 on: 18-10-2011, 19:10:26 »
I think all TD's should have a comander spotter seat like in the stugIII

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Re: Jagdpanther, JgPIV, Hetzer
« Reply #14 on: 18-10-2011, 20:10:49 »
I always wondered why there wasnt an mg in the Jagdpanzer. That's dumb, there should be an MG34 there. And there's a variant where it had two hull mg's, and mg42.