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Title: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst on 24-03-2011, 11:03:57
As the old thread got closed, because of - well - private chatting, I decided to start a new one.

As news are rare at the moment, I want to start with a summary.  What do we know about the next patch, especially the BotB content as Russia is very far out. I mean the already shown stuff, as well as for example the maps and names spotted on the test server. And some speculations, what is missing and a "must have".

Since the last patch was shown:

Is there still something very very important missing? A weapon, a tank? The most important thing are the US winterskins, which need to be done or better to say, finished and shown to us.

The next list will contain the names of maps, which were spotted on the testserver (a Part of this list is taken by a list made by Kelmola in the old thread):

That are some Maps related to the Eastern front, the next 3 maps are maps related to normandy (Ok, the overlord map seems to be a testmap and comes up for years now.)
Then there are maps, which seems to portray to the BotB fighting. The last maps are related to the Hürtgenwald battle, which is already german territory.

I will finish my post with some speculating.
One of the map sreenshots, which was shown in the january news, has some similarities to kettcars signature. So I guess: One map might be done by kettcar:

(http://www.abload.de/img/fhforumbanner3ufsl.jpg)
(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/news/110117x/map03.gif)

Next I remember there was a "hurtgen forrest"-thread in the modding section. The screenshots on the january update made me remember that. The map shown in the moddings section contained a forrest with a lot of fortifications and even some special statics, like westwall bunkers. In a short search I couldnt find the thread anymore, nearly all evidence in the public part of the forums are gone. But I found a thread, where torenico asked what to do next (Hürtgen was an option) and in the "battle of aachen"-thread he showed a very WIP of such a bunker. Next he said, he want to redo his "battle-of-aachen" map.

Very, very WIP sreenshot of a bunker made by terenico, 1 year old. The ones from the hurtgenforrest map, looked different and were more or less finished.
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/1424/r503rndr.jpg

My randomn guess: The hurtgen forrest map from the modding section had enough potential, so it got moved to the internal forums and might be one of the maps of the release.

Thats it, I hope this thread will not be closed because of chatting. I hope we can summarize all the infos, which are written between the lines and such, as we got a lack of news at the moment.

Oberst

PS: I nearly forgot, the tank warfare will be reworked, which was said somewhere in the suggestion forums.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: IrishReloaded on 24-03-2011, 11:03:07
here is the thread you were looking for :)
http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?topic=11950.0 (http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?topic=11950.0)

Quote
by Ts4Ever
but remember, he wrote he doesn't work on Fh2 anymore, so all this stuff will never be released

2 Months later, when noone remebered the topic anymore

http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/main.php?module=archives&selectedmonth=12&selectedyear=2010&lang=english
 (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/main.php?module=archives&selectedmonth=12&selectedyear=2010&lang=english)
 ;D


edit:
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My randomn guess: The hurtgen forrest map from the modding section had enough potential, so it got moved to the internal forums and might be one of the maps of the release.

usually you never ever see any stuff before the news / relaise.
They only showed us the 4 pics of the wip maps because we won the moddb contest.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Raziel on 24-03-2011, 11:03:25
I remember going through this thread! Thanks Irish for bringing it back up! I sincerely hope that FH2 continues to be developed! Lately have been growing more and more afraid of opening the forums and finding the dreaded final post....."Sorry guys we are going to move onto new and fresher grounds. FH2 will not be developed anymore"  :'( 
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Thorondor123 on 24-03-2011, 11:03:40
I find your lack of faith disturbing.

Knoffy not working for FH2? What a bunch of baloney ;D

Edit: Raziel, are you serious? ::)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst on 24-03-2011, 13:03:51
@Irish: Thats the Sreens I meant, that is even the Map I meant, but thats not the thread I ment. I am damn sure, there was a thread in the modding section and its name was "hurtgen forrest" or something. I remembered your behind the scenes thread, but I forgot, there were so much screens. Thanks!

Your example of the Eihandgranate shows, sometimes stuff is shown, of course unintentionally, but shown.
I am not so sure, we will never see this map again. And somehow I cant get rid of the feeling, that some Devs and/or betatesters sit infront of theír computer sreens and just cant tell, they want to, but cant.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Lightning on 24-03-2011, 13:03:22
I can, but I don't want to  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 24-03-2011, 13:03:15
Whatever happened to the Battle of Keren? It got as far as mentioned in the 2.2 changelog... then nothing.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 24-03-2011, 14:03:43
@Irish: Thats the Sreens I meant, that is even the Map I meant, but thats not the thread I ment. I am damn sure, there was a thread in the modding section and its name was "hurtgen forrest" or something. I remembered your behind the scenes thread, but I forgot, there were so much screens. Thanks!

Your example of the Eihandgranate shows, sometimes stuff is shown, of course unintentionally, but shown.
I am not so sure, we will never see this map again. And somehow I cant get rid of the feeling, that some Devs and/or betatesters sit infront of theír computer sreens and just cant tell, they want to, but cant.

Well if lightning doesn't want to tell you, your best bet would be asking the dev who posted the stuff in the first place for a comment ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Die Happy on 24-03-2011, 15:03:11
Whatever happened to the Battle of Keren? It got as far as mentioned in the 2.2 changelog... then nothing.
i think it was the application map for some dev, we playtested it only few times, it had some issues on performance for some people and later we did some skirmish in the maps urban areas. which was always quite a lot of fun with just a handfull of people. not really sure what happened then. focus went on next release in terms of testerplaytime spend on maps. and then nothing. or at least nothing i can remember. i dont even remember the devs name who made the map.

i liked the maps setting, dug in italians in hillside vs british supported by artillery and some tanks. however balancing this map would have taken quite some time i guess. and as said before back then that time needed to be spend on maps closer to being finished.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 24-03-2011, 15:03:42
the map was made by schism who went on to make peb.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: IrishReloaded on 24-03-2011, 15:03:58
oh italian maps, we need them, and I like PeB, one of my fav. so maybe he can make a remake of this  ;D

mh N24R. post is gone ^^
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 24-03-2011, 16:03:53
Believe me, once you see his new map you will forget all about Italians /spoiler
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Fuchs on 24-03-2011, 16:03:27
Not really. Depends on your priorities.

I would swap anything for another Italian map. Even that one awesome map.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: IrishReloaded on 24-03-2011, 16:03:28
was it an italian africa map
or italian main country map?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 24-03-2011, 16:03:28
Ethiopia.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: IrishReloaded on 24-03-2011, 16:03:58
seriosly :D omg geil
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Lightning on 24-03-2011, 17:03:44
Keren is in Eritrea, not Ethiopia.

The map hasn't been worked on for several years, so it's unlikely it will ever be in a patch.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: psykfallet on 24-03-2011, 17:03:36
that's cool, didnt know there once was a Keren map, kinda wanted to make one myself. Perhaps it could added back someday what with some new italian stuff like the cannone 47 and fiat 626 has been made since then.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Latreillle on 24-03-2011, 18:03:19
for the maps, anyone heard of ''Bombing the 3rd Reich'' ?  :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 24-03-2011, 18:03:45
That was an FH1 air map.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 24-03-2011, 21:03:06
Believe me, once you see his new map you will forget all about Italians /spoiler
Have we seen the name on the test server yet? /troll ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst on 24-03-2011, 21:03:12
Believe me, once you see his new map you will forget all about Italians /spoiler
Have we seen the name on the test server yet? /troll ;D

We have seen the map on the testserver, but not the name, am I right? Or better, don't tell.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 24-03-2011, 21:03:38
We have seen the map on the testserver, but not the name, am I right?
Please enlighten me, how else could you "see" a map on the test server, except by seeing its name? :P

...unless this is an official confirmation that some of the maps are codenamed ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Thorondor123 on 24-03-2011, 21:03:17
We have seen the map on the testserver, but not the name, am I right?
Please enlighten me, how else could you "see" a map on the test server, except by seeing its name? :P

...unless this is an official confirmation that some of the maps are codenamed ;D
Back in 2002/2003 FinnWars had maps called 'putkisaatana', peloikaspossu' and 'minttu'. That was clever.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: IrishReloaded on 24-03-2011, 22:03:19
we should be happy that the devs dont call the test maps " A1" "B2 " ect. then we would have nothing to conspire about^^
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 24-03-2011, 22:03:17
Do you really think the devs are trying to be sneaky and hide stuff from you? In that case they could just use an unlisted server and noone ever would know what maps are tested.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: IrishReloaded on 24-03-2011, 22:03:43
nope as this would may cause less players, when they think you dont work anymore...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: azreal on 24-03-2011, 22:03:40
What do you think updates are for?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: IrishReloaded on 24-03-2011, 22:03:24
maybe there was a missunderstanding, I like the system like it is at the moment
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst on 24-03-2011, 22:03:47
we should be happy that the devs dont call the test maps " A1" "B2 " ect. then we would have nothing to conspire about^^

Well, I am sure there is a thread in the internals, where they make fun of, what the puiblic thinks. [/trolling]

Seriously, I am not always sure, if every map has the right name, which it will get later.
And dont forget: This is the conspiracies thread. Conspiracies are all about guessing total random information with no real reason and seeing everywhere a possible lie or intentional missinformation. This thread should be settled somewhere between a little trolling and real, information based discussing.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Eat Uranium on 24-03-2011, 22:03:03
Remember - it isn't a conspiracy if you can find evidence for it!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: RAnDOOm on 25-03-2011, 20:03:41
Conspiracy

1. An agreement to perform together an illegal, wrongful, or subversive act.
2. A group of conspirators.
3. Law An agreement between two or more persons to commit a crime or accomplish a legal purpose through illegal action.
4. A joining or acting together, as if by sinister design: a conspiracy of wind and tide that devastated coastal areas.

 ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Dukat on 27-03-2011, 03:03:05
Is it just for reasons of kindness that the FH2 devs promised to discuss the offer of developing another FH under the umbrella of an official publisher? Will they really do, though we know they've always stated, that this is a non-commercial project? And finally: Was that offer a fake by some troll or what is going on? Questions over questions...

http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?topic=14218.0
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: hunterjojo on 27-03-2011, 03:03:06
gentlemen....be very very careful here.....or the black choppers will come.. :-X
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: ajappat on 27-03-2011, 16:03:14
gentlemen....be very very careful here.....or the black choppers will come.. :-X
Don't over use it  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 27-03-2011, 16:03:40
First and last warning for this thread. Keep it up and you'll get your second Conspiracy thread closed!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Steel_Lion_FIN on 16-04-2011, 09:04:17
Battle_of_Puffendorf spotted on testserver.

Puffendorf is a small village in Aachen region. Just saying..
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Pr0z4c on 16-04-2011, 18:04:03
pacific is comming, already a lot of stuff is made  :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 16-04-2011, 18:04:51
like what?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: IrishReloaded on 16-04-2011, 18:04:49
Bar, M1,Stuart, Shermans,  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 16-04-2011, 18:04:50
OMG it must be true:

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/images/news/135%20-%20hut.jpg)

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/images/news/135%20-%20sampan.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LHeureux on 16-04-2011, 18:04:23
Rad stuff  :-[
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: IrishReloaded on 16-04-2011, 18:04:53
awesome models, really
We need moar unique houses!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Pr0z4c on 17-04-2011, 11:04:40
like that, and i saw once a screen of a Zero plane taking off on the 2007 remake of Wake Island
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Aggroman on 17-04-2011, 11:04:49
Yes, I remember that shots too, I think it was Rad's private project...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Thorondor123 on 17-04-2011, 11:04:45
like that, and i saw once a screen of a Zero plane taking off on the 2007 remake of Wake Island
BF42 plane and a BF2 map? :/
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Pr0z4c on 17-04-2011, 14:04:56
like that, and i saw once a screen of a Zero plane taking off on the 2007 remake of Wake Island
BF42 plane and a BF2 map? :/

dunno, it could be a model ported to bf2, i could not see that very clearly.
.
 
btw what about this. the devs are currently busy making new awsome stuff for the Battle of the Bulge and the eastfront. but what about some maps covering the market garden operations?
(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/imagesfh2/vehicles/Airspeed%20AS%2051%20Horsa/big.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: DLFReporter on 18-04-2011, 08:04:48
... but what about some maps covering the market garden operations?

Who knows. That Horsa is a nice model. :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Pr0z4c on 19-04-2011, 09:04:01
... but what about some maps covering the market garden operations?

Who knows. That Horsa is a nice model. :)

you might know more about this  :P please enlighten us  ;D

ok i know im on this thread too much, but i want to know moare!  ;D
question: what happend with the sdkfz 141 Panzer III Ausf M ?
will we see it again?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: M36 90mm GMC on 22-04-2011, 14:04:54
Hello all I am new here and thought this might be a good place to ask this question. Does anyone know when the M36 TD will be added to FH2? It is listed on the FH2 Wiki page with a picture of the finished in game model and everything. If this is a dumb question I apologize.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: THeTA0123 on 22-04-2011, 14:04:50
Hello all I am new here and thought this might be a good place to ask this question. Does anyone know when the M36 TD will be added to FH2? It is listed on the FH2 Wiki page with a picture of the finished in game model and everything. If this is a dumb question I apologize.
Officialy nothing know

Off the record=yes :v

Be aware of black helicopters now
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 22-04-2011, 14:04:47
AFAIK the M36 Jackson is already in the released files since 2.2, just not on any map. Tournaments aalready used it.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: djinn on 22-04-2011, 15:04:31
I think this is the perfect weekend for an update showing an easter egg... A maus already ingame maybe, the devs finally admit this fact, but will never say where it is hidden - German bias, catastrophic gameplay kill and all that...

Ok, I am ready for my update now - Humor me.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: THeTA0123 on 22-04-2011, 15:04:38
More drillings would be nice

Or a luchs


Or a luchs! WITH a drilling!YEEAAHHHH
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: IrishReloaded on 22-04-2011, 15:04:31
Or a maus with a Luchs on its back which soldiers on the luchs back which drillings ^^
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: djinn on 22-04-2011, 15:04:49
'Drilling' was the reason the last thread of the same name was locked - Lets focus on at least reasonable conspiracies, lest that happen again
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Thorondor123 on 22-04-2011, 16:04:29
'Drilling' was the reason the last thread of the same name was locked - Lets focus on at least reasonable conspiracies, lest that happen again
Quite so.

This thread is getting very silly, and Mr. Theta must know what happens to silly threads.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Pr0z4c on 25-04-2011, 10:04:03
ok back on topic.

my conspiracy about the next update: a massive release with all new soviet vehicles, and we will see the best jeep off em all the Gaz-64, it was already made and fh2 compatible  ;D
http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/main.php?module=archives&selectedmonth=6&selectedyear=2005&lang=english

and...... beach landings in Normandy  ::)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: THeTA0123 on 25-04-2011, 11:04:59
ok back on topic.

my conspiracy about the next update: a massive release with all new soviet vehicles, and we will see the best jeep off em all the Gaz-64, it was already made and fh2 compatible  ;D
http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/main.php?module=archives&selectedmonth=6&selectedyear=2005&lang=english

Legacy of Rad  :'(
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Pr0z4c on 25-04-2011, 13:04:45
jup... he was really awesome, his creations where the best!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: djinn on 25-04-2011, 18:04:01
And that's no exaggeration either. British in North Africa, still my favorite player model - And the Chevy!

I do wonder if any of the former devs just happen to have some models or maps still in test or just waiting for the right time to emerge... Some North African or Normandy Map, or some seriously cool vehicle out of nowhere... Would really love to see that someday....Age gives models class :)

Maybe, a never-ever-before released Omaha? *Hey, I can dream, can't I?*
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Lightning on 25-04-2011, 18:04:29
*Hey, I can dream, can't I?*
That almost sounds like an invitation.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Alakazou on 25-04-2011, 20:04:13
Big crush :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: djinn on 25-04-2011, 20:04:35
*Hey, I can dream, can't I?*
That almost sounds like an invitation.

Well tbh, I always wanted to have closure on the Omaha issue, so please go on, tell us...

Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Lightning on 25-04-2011, 21:04:53
We are not developing an Omaha Beach map at this time.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: djinn on 25-04-2011, 22:04:45
Yer? So about that 'No one touch Omaha, till am ready to do it'... That never took off at all? Not even a beta?


Cuz I know a whole bunch of fanmodders who would LO-ove to develop their own version - as long as it got airtime on some server.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Lightning on 25-04-2011, 22:04:30
Well we have a lot of maps that are started but never finished. I don't know if someone ever wants to finish it or if it's worth finishing. All I know is that now we are not working on an Omaha Beach map.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 25-04-2011, 22:04:26
Yer? So about that 'No one touch Omaha, till I am ready to do it'... That never took off at all? Not even a beta?

Cuz I know a whole bunch of fanmodders who would LO-ove to develop their own version - as long as it got airtime on some server.
Wasn't Omaha originally Lobo's baby?

However, I agree that what I would really love to see is better utilization of the fan community. Say, the devs would like to see a map X in the mod but none of them is interested enough to do it or more likely, is otherwise occupied already. So they just start a new thread in the Modding forum, announcing their wish for a map, promising only that they might consider testing the map if it is beyond commercial quality. Also, while tournament maps as such are not the same thing as proper release maps, the FHT and WAW guys should really start considering seriously which of those could be polished and tweaked enough for official release. I would see great potential in there.

---

By the way, whatever happened to the "smaller updates but more often"? At this rate, the interval between 2.3 and 2.4 won't be much smaller than between 2.15 and 2.2 ???
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Lightning on 25-04-2011, 22:04:03
However, I agree that what I would really love to see is better utilization of the fan community. Say, the devs would like to see a map X in the mod but none of them is interested enough to do it or more likely, is otherwise occupied already.
We want good maps. What it's about is (almost) entirely irrelevant to us.

Also, while tournament maps as such are not the same thing as proper release maps, the FHT and WAW guys should really start considering seriously which of those could be polished and tweaked enough for official release. I would see great potential in there.
There are multiple maps in 2.3 that started out as tournament maps already.

By the way, whatever happened to the "smaller updates but more often"? At this rate, the interval between 2.3 and 2.4 won't be much smaller than between 2.15 and 2.2 ???
Since 2.4 moves us to a new theater of war, which requires new vehicles, new statics, reskins of pretty much everything, new playermodels, etc... we did not take the "fast and small" approach.


Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: djinn on 25-04-2011, 22:04:05
And personally, I think we should stay off that sort of approach - No offense, but I would rather have the one-year long maps that are almost exact to RL locations and play epically like PeB or PDH - I rre-aally hate CObra.

I was so excited when I heard the 'dont touch it till I'm ready to do it' for Omaha and was waiting to experience the real to life deal map - With exact mg positions, bunker layout and all, then... Nada...

And now its like, oh, that ol' thing, its just another map - We really weren't planning on making it ..

Dude, its OMAHA! It must be!

Anyway, guess i needed to let that out someday... Well, pitty to hear. Guess that's it for d-day then...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: azreal on 25-04-2011, 23:04:38
All I will tell you is that real life sucks...that, and that there are a few more Normandy maps yet to be released.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Nissi on 25-04-2011, 23:04:23
To be included in which patch?  :)

Looking forward for the new stuff and I'm sure it will be awesome. In the meanwhile I go back to my greyhairmaking project.  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 26-04-2011, 00:04:51
Since 2.4 moves us to a new theater of war, which requires new vehicles, new statics, reskins of pretty much everything, new playermodels, etc... we did not take the "fast and small" approach.
there are a few more Normandy maps yet to be released.
Hmmm..... Fallschirmjäger and US paratrooper models confirmed?
/troll
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TheRevoluzer on 26-04-2011, 00:04:45
All I know is that now we are not working on an Omaha Beach map.
Finished?   ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Pr0z4c on 26-04-2011, 10:04:55
Well we have a lot of maps that are started but never finished. I don't know if someone ever wants to finish it or if it's worth finishing. All I know is that now we are not working on an Omaha Beach map.

make a contest! everybody make a as real as possible looking Omaha beach map, the best map will be tweaked  further to met the demands and looks of every other fh2 map.

set some outlines for what such a map needs, how big, what kind of bunkers, gameplay ect.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Beaufort on 26-04-2011, 10:04:13
I for one don't care which beach it is as long as we get to fight ON the beach (not like Gold in FH1) ...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: djinn on 26-04-2011, 11:04:57
Well we have a lot of maps that are started but never finished. I don't know if someone ever wants to finish it or if it's worth finishing. All I know is that now we are not working on an Omaha Beach map.

make a contest! everybody make a as real as possible looking Omaha beach map, the best map will be tweaked  further to met the demands and looks of every other fh2 map.

set some outlines for what such a map needs, how big, what kind of bunkers, gameplay ect.

Yer, also make the effort to make it real to life - I might be wrong, but with 2x2km map, we can even have it to 1:1 scale - Also gives the Allies an area to flank from if the beach is that wide and more to do when the beach defenses are taken i.e. Ohama Fh1 meet Gold Beach FH1 (Best of both worlds)

@Beufort, then its a American or Canadian beach then...

Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Beaufort on 26-04-2011, 11:04:26
Yep, either of them would be fine.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: IrishReloaded on 26-04-2011, 11:04:58
omaha will fail in the game imo.
32vs 32
32 Us guys running over an open beach vs 32 entrenched germans, with tank bunkers and hidden mgs.

That just work when you send 1000nd soldiers at the same time to rush the beach.


Wasn't Juno planned/worked on
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 26-04-2011, 11:04:02
There are ways to make it work, like spawn points way back from the defenses and firepower for the allies etc.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: DLFReporter on 26-04-2011, 11:04:13
omaha will fail in the game imo.
32vs 32
32 Us guys running over an open beach vs 32 entrenched germans, with tank bunkers and hidden mgs.
That just work when you send 1000nd soldiers at the same time to rush the beach.
Wasn't Juno planned/worked on

It worked in FH0.7, why not here?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Smiles on 26-04-2011, 12:04:35
Works on RO too with 50 players. I see no reason why it shouldnt work. FH2 has some excelent mappers in my opinion. Go mappers! Hoo Hoo Hoo!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: azreal on 26-04-2011, 16:04:19
I don't see why you guys need a sanctioned contest from us to make any kind of map. If you like mapping, create a good map and apply as a dev. Do you think Toddel waited for a modeling contest to create stuff for FH2? Do you think Guderian waited for a mapping contest to begin work on Villers Bocage? Pfft I say.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Pr0z4c on 26-04-2011, 19:04:51
sure ofcourse you are right, if you want to map or realy like to, do it! im already busy making some concept maps and trying stuff to learn to how to map.

but i thought this would maybe a fun way to rise some motivation for others to pick it up.

you just w8, in time ill have a awsome map  ;)


Btw: lets get back on topic.
does anyone has another good conspiracy? plz share
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 27-04-2011, 01:04:51
 Hey will i be able to earn these medals when 2.4 is released?

(http://awards.fh2.ifihada.com/m/awards_l/3190318.png)(http://awards.fh2.ifihada.com/m/awards_l/3190118.png)



 :-*

Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: djinn on 27-04-2011, 01:04:59
Speaking of which, what do you do to get the something of Crete medal? I got in 2 instances... dont know what I did to earn it?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: :| Hi on 27-04-2011, 01:04:25
I think its from jumping out of a plane.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 27-04-2011, 08:04:04
Note that the 762 medal system is inofficial.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: DLFReporter on 27-04-2011, 08:04:14
Also note that the unofficial ranking on 762 just triggers code bits for medals that were created earlier during tests and that have no set rules.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Natty on 27-04-2011, 08:04:52
note also how unwise it is for a server of such a small community to run hacked awards
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: djinn on 27-04-2011, 08:04:01
Small community? Let's not piss of the Natives - 762 has 2 servers running, mostly with one almost full and the other decent. And hslan is having a hard time keeping up this days... But I take your point about the awards


So in other words, not as intended?

Will those things ever get released? Cuz I think it would make for cool gameplay - Especially in Singleplayer. Its been so long since they were announced and then nada - And now the devs always seem to sidestep the question - Almost like they used to do Omaha
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: DLFReporter on 27-04-2011, 09:04:28
This is still the Conspiracies Thread Djinn. ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: djinn on 27-04-2011, 09:04:12
Yer, the latter hints at conspiracy... the former... well, that's just blasphemy ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Pr0z4c on 27-04-2011, 13:04:20
watch it, or they will close this thread!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Lightning on 27-04-2011, 15:04:03
Will those things ever get released? Cuz I think it would make for cool gameplay - Especially in Singleplayer. Its been so long since they were announced and then nada - And now the devs always seem to sidestep the question - Almost like they used to do Omaha
The awards should be nearly done, though they will not be available in singleplayer.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LuckyOne on 29-04-2011, 00:04:17
All I know is that now we are not working on an Omaha Beach map.

Cause it's already finished, right?  :P (Overlord map spotted on you know where)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Die Happy on 29-04-2011, 14:04:18
overlord map has been spotted there years ago ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: djinn on 29-04-2011, 17:04:35
If an object is spotted for so long on a battlefield, it is no longer spotted, but mapped... Either that or its a mirage.

In other words, Omaha, either exists and is some insane map that needed 3 years of work to balance, OR ... it classic misdirection... Heck, maybe overlord its Berlin or Saipan, named that way to throw everyone off....
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 29-04-2011, 20:04:51
Overlord:
(http://www.mystarcraft2.de/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/zerg-overlord.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Thorondor123 on 29-04-2011, 20:04:28
Try to stay on topic or I will counter your overlords and this thread with battlecruisers.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Eat Uranium on 29-04-2011, 20:04:37
I don't know who made this Overlord map, but I do know that he has the world's best trollface.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 03-05-2011, 21:05:08
Flippy is told to arrange the next FHGN one week after 2.4 comes out

==> 2.4 conifrmed for release on 21 May the latest ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: McCloskey on 03-05-2011, 23:05:40
You wish man, you wish.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: djinn on 04-05-2011, 00:05:03
Yer, we haven't even gotten one stinking map in an update, so I highly doubt its that soon. not really like the devs to display all their maps at once... And popping a map in at the end, with a big release update only happened once - Arberdeen... 'nuff said... So don't expect that - or we're screwed in 2.4
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Comrade Roe on 04-05-2011, 02:05:57
My conspiracies: FH2 will stop being developed
FH2's community will lose interest in FH and just go away to other games
The ostfront/every army from FH1 that isn't already added never gets added (Gonna get sick of playing all the "over-credited" factions eventually, right?)
The Ju-88 is never added
No paratrooper maps besides Invasion of Crete will ever exist for FH2
Bfewaw's amazing ships aren't added at least as something servers besides WaW and the Jpn air map servers are on

There's a lot of stuff I'm afraid of. Though, those conspiracies pretty much are all.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Thorondor123 on 04-05-2011, 14:05:15
Those are not conspiracies, those are irrational fears ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Pr0z4c on 04-05-2011, 14:05:15
My conspiracies: FH2 will stop being developed
FH2's community will lose interest in FH and just go away to other games
The ostfront/every army from FH1 that isn't already added never gets added (Gonna get sick of playing all the "over-credited" factions eventually, right?)
The Ju-88 is never added
No paratrooper maps besides Invasion of Crete will ever exist for FH2
Bfewaw's amazing ships aren't added at least as something servers besides WaW and the Jpn air map servers are on

There's a lot of stuff I'm afraid of. Though, those conspiracies pretty much are all.

have faith my jung padawan. This game is pure awsomeness. too bad less ppl play pc games but on those crappy consoles. ppl need to pc game moare!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kev4000 on 05-05-2011, 01:05:50
My conspiracies: FH2 will stop being developed
FH2's community will lose interest in FH and just go away to other games
The ostfront/every army from FH1 that isn't already added never gets added (Gonna get sick of playing all the "over-credited" factions eventually, right?)
The Ju-88 is never added
No paratrooper maps besides Invasion of Crete will ever exist for FH2
Bfewaw's amazing ships aren't added at least as something servers besides WaW and the Jpn air map servers are on

There's a lot of stuff I'm afraid of. Though, those conspiracies pretty much are all.
¨
Considering that FH1 still gets 32+ players on a daily basis, hasn't had an update in 5 years, and was never anywhere close to as popular as FH2, your fear is quite irrational.

Based on statistics we can rather safely asume FH2 will have players for the next 5 years. Based on insider knowledge of all the upcoming surprises for 2.4, I personally think FH 2.4 will be more popular than ever. But I can't base that on statistics.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: :| Hi on 05-05-2011, 06:05:15
Quote
But I can't base that on statistics.
Only Natty can do that  ;D

Honestly, even though I havn't been able to beta-test for the last 2-3 months because of school work, I can definitely say that 2.4 will definitely be as or more popular than the release of Normandy. Its really great and I suspect the community will love it as well  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 05-05-2011, 08:05:46
2.4 will be one of the "milestone releases" like 2.0 or 2.2.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Toddel on 05-05-2011, 09:05:43
Toddel ask TS4EVER in the Backroom and close the Door
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Pr0z4c on 05-05-2011, 09:05:31
I cant wait to get smacked in the face with this milestone  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 06-05-2011, 20:05:17
Forgotten Hope just posted this on Facebook:
--- -. . | -... .-. . .- -.- | --- -. . | ..-. --- ..- .-. | -... .-. . .- -.- | - .-- --- | --.. . .-. --- | --- -. . | --- -. . | -... .-. . .- -.-

Morsecode? Can someone crack it?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 06-05-2011, 20:05:09
1/14/2011

Except that this got censored from FH's FB page. Also, it's in the past, and damn Yanks who do not follow either DMY or ISO 8601 (yyyy-mm-dd).

EDIT: One break one four break two zero one one break is what the Morse code reads literally.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kalkalash on 06-05-2011, 20:05:21
--- -. . | -... .-. . .- -.- | --- -. . | ..-. --- ..- .-. | -... .-. . .- -.- | - .-- --- | --.. . .-. --- | --- -. . | --- -. . | -... .-. . .- -.-
One break one four break two zero one one break

So: 1 14 2011

Edit: Beaten by Kelmola, and by freaking 5 minutes!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: IrishReloaded on 06-05-2011, 20:05:01
what happend on 14.1.2011 ISO writing:
The Tunisian government falls after a month of increasingly violent protests; President Zine El Abidine Ben Ali flees to Saudi Arabia after 23 years in power ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Musti on 06-05-2011, 20:05:31
That cannot be a coincidence!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Fuchs on 06-05-2011, 20:05:03
Well.. Maybe it is time to start protesting. Like really what is the last time we saw our El Presidente? Where is the Great Leader Lobo? I haven't seen him, have you?!

Maybe we should dispose him!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LuckyOne on 06-05-2011, 20:05:14
Well.. Maybe it is time to start protesting. Like really what is the last time we saw our El Presidente? Where is the Great Leader Lobo? I haven't seen him, have you?!

Maybe we should dispose him!

(http://images.newstatesman.com/articles/2011//20110115_tunisia7_w.jpg)

 :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 06-05-2011, 20:05:34
Toddel ask TS4EVER in the Backroom and close the Door
What will Toddel do to TS4EVER?

 Will he beat him so badly that he starts being nice?



 :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: hOMEr_jAy on 06-05-2011, 20:05:02
 Forgotten Hope
‎-.-. --- .-. .-. . -.-. - .. --- -. --.. . .-. --- ..-. .. ...- . -... .-. . .- -.- --- -. . ..-. --- ..- .-. -... .-. . .- -.- - .-- --- --.. . .-. --- --- -. . --- -. . -... .-. . .- -.- . -. . -- -.-- ..-. --- .-. -.-. . ... ... .--. --- - - . -.. --- ...- . .-.

correctionzerofivebreaonefourbreatwozerooneonebreaenemyforcesspottedover
14.05.2011, enemy forces spotted. Neato :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 07-05-2011, 11:05:40
What if...

...it is The Road to Forgotten Hope 2.4? ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: K.Cower on 07-05-2011, 12:05:01
What if...

...it is The Road to Forgotten Hope 2.4? ;D

Road to "patience" )))
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst on 07-05-2011, 12:05:16
We havent seen any maps yet. And its not likely, that they release them without showing the maps in several news. And there are no american skins for BotB.

So they might show the first map. And then maybe every week another until release.

But its not likely to post such a thing on facebook using morse-code. That was only used for the "big announcement". So it would be likely that it is something total unexpected, like an omaha map or a market garden map or whatever. I would rather expect market garden, as a lot of things are done, "just" maps are missing.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Nissi on 07-05-2011, 12:05:55
You know that everything is in place for beach maps and not market garden maps?  ;)

But I agree with you in the other points.  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Smiles on 08-05-2011, 13:05:02
So release is close huh? Lets party!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FatJoe on 20-05-2011, 16:05:35
Not exactly a conspiracy theory but more of an idea, and where else to put this but here?! ;)

So, I want to see a map taking place in Antarctica, where the Nazis have set up a rocket base, with a blended US/UK OSS forces attacking. The map would be objective based infantry type. The Allies have to attack the base and destroy some objects, fuel storage, rocket platform, etc.. The Nazis have to protect these objects, until tickets run out.

And this would be dedicated to the Movie, Iron Sky : http://www.ironsky.net/ ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: psykfallet on 20-05-2011, 21:05:03
Not exactly a conspiracy theory but more of an idea, and where else to put this but here?! ;)

So, I want to see a map taking place in Antarctica, where the Nazis have set up a rocket base, with a blended US/UK OSS forces attacking. The map would be objective based infantry type. The Allies have to attack the base and destroy some objects, fuel storage, rocket platform, etc.. The Nazis have to protect these objects, until tickets run out.

And this would be dedicated to the Movie, Iron Sky : http://www.ironsky.net/ ;)
How can you have operation highjump without haunebus ?  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Nissi on 20-05-2011, 22:05:55
Not exactly a conspiracy theory but more of an idea, and where else to put this but here?! ;)

So, I want to see a map taking place in Antarctica, where the Nazis have set up a rocket base, with a blended US/UK OSS forces attacking. The map would be objective based infantry type. The Allies have to attack the base and destroy some objects, fuel storage, rocket platform, etc.. The Nazis have to protect these objects, until tickets run out.

And this would be dedicated to the Movie, Iron Sky : http://www.ironsky.net/ ;)

Let's translate that to the Bulge:

So, I want to see a map taking place in the ardennes, where the allies have set up a fuel base, with a camoflaged german elite unit attacking. The map would be objective based infantry type. The Germans have to attack the base and steal some objects...  ;)

*hope*

goes back to his own map... and becoming fully crazy.  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kev4000 on 27-05-2011, 21:05:27
yo dawg, so we herd u liked machineguns
so we put a machinegun on a machinegun so u can kill will you kill

yes, it may also be hipfired.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: THeTA0123 on 27-05-2011, 21:05:50
An   underbarrel MG34 under a MG42.....

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ze5-XzyMZqY/TZPTbiuDa4I/AAAAAAAAAG0/e6t526R6ZAE/s1600/exploding_head_.jpg)

Do something with drilling! DO SOMETHING WITH DRILLING!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kev4000 on 27-05-2011, 21:05:59
An   underbarrel MG34 under a MG42.....

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ze5-XzyMZqY/TZPTbiuDa4I/AAAAAAAAAG0/e6t526R6ZAE/s1600/exploding_head_.jpg)

Do something with drilling! DO SOMETHING WITH DRILLING!

Oh don't worry about it. It is only once you reach Master Sergeant Killer Guy rank on 762 you get it.
Its not overpowered either, the additional recoil makes up for the higher ROF, so new players won't be at any disadvantage.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: THeTA0123 on 27-05-2011, 22:05:44
Thats it

762 SERVER here i come

oh wait, im not allow to Fausttillery and Piatmortar
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Musti on 28-05-2011, 01:05:13
oh wait, im not allow to Fausttillery and Piatmortar
I've been doing that all the time for the last few days without any problems
they just don't like YOU
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 12-06-2011, 15:06:05
Forgotten Hope
"Hear that sound? It's getting closer...it's the sound of change."

Facebook post.

So what's on the menu for today?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 12-06-2011, 15:06:28
Sounds like thunder... something surely is rumbling in the horizon...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Thorondor123 on 12-06-2011, 16:06:34
Can't you hear, can't you hear the thunder?
You better run, you better take cover.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 12-06-2011, 16:06:18
Can't you hear, can't you hear the thunder?
You better run, you better take cover.
Oh god, that's my favourite 80's band  ::)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 12-06-2011, 18:06:04
Forgotten Hope
"Hear that sound? It's getting closer...it's the sound of change."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KcRl1p2waM
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 12-06-2011, 18:06:33
this thread is now about music bands and favourite songs from the past, lol.  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: IrishReloaded on 12-06-2011, 18:06:32
music spawm bots :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 19-06-2011, 00:06:04
 I want to see a preview of the Awards System, that rumor has it, will be included in 2.4.



 :-*
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 19-06-2011, 00:06:27
I want to see a preview of the Awards System, that rumor has it, will be included in 2.4.



 :-*

Just look at the 762 one, it uses old unused Fh2 award files.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 11-07-2011, 13:07:36
1) Go to FH site.
2) Click on "Archives".
3) Search for "road to"
4) SHIT BRIX

Or, just click http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/archives.php?searchstring=road+to&action=Search

Credit goes to NAME REMOVED for discovering this secret ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Battlefieldfan45 (CroPanzer) on 11-07-2011, 13:07:47
hehe seems like tonight's update won't contain NOTHING!  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 11-07-2011, 13:07:08
fuck yeah!!!  ;D

I only hope we will see few more new maps from test server  ::)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: McCloskey on 11-07-2011, 14:07:58
brix. shat. *fingers crossed*
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: evhgear on 11-07-2011, 16:07:11
1) Go to FH site.
2) Click on "Archives".
3) Search for "road to"
4) SHIT BRIX

JIZZ IN MY PANTS

wow... simply... WOW !   Maybe before the end of July  :o
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Gezoes on 11-07-2011, 17:07:16
I sense I was wrong with 2.4 coming Christmas 2011... and I also have this feeling it'll be more than 4 maps. Very psyched, can't wait.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: THeTA0123 on 11-07-2011, 18:07:59
it got removed

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: IrishReloaded on 11-07-2011, 18:07:00
I still have a screen  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Gezoes on 11-07-2011, 18:07:56
Well, the choppers still have 1,5 hours of playtime. Best of luck :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 11-07-2011, 18:07:21
Well, the choppers still have 1,5 hours of playtime.
O RLY? (http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?topic=15722.0)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Eat Uranium on 11-07-2011, 18:07:24
Well, I'm sure you enjoyed outfoxing the system, but I think that when it comes down to it, you were only trolling yourselves.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst on 11-07-2011, 21:07:38
The Hurtgen Forest Map was shown before, Am I right?

http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?topic=11950.0

I knew it, I knew it!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 11-07-2011, 21:07:15
The Hurtgen Forest Map was shown before, Am I right?

http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?topic=11950.0

I knew it, I knew it!
Of course it was:
(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/news/110117x/map04.jpg)

http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/archives.php?selectedmonth=1&selectedyear=2011 (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/archives.php?selectedmonth=1&selectedyear=2011)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst on 11-07-2011, 22:07:54
Old overview:

(http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/6294/weissewehescr12.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: IrishReloaded on 11-07-2011, 22:07:05
muahhah
forestparty in da bunker ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Battlefieldfan45 (CroPanzer) on 12-07-2011, 00:07:08
ummm
IT LOOKS AWESOME!
But won't the ammount of trees on that map cause some laggishnes?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kwiot on 12-07-2011, 00:07:41
ummm
IT LOOKS AWESOME!
But won't the ammount of trees on that map cause some laggishnes?

On my 5-old year PC surely, especially with such big distance view...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Knoffhoff on 12-07-2011, 02:07:38
It is not a very hardware demanding map. With my 3 year old system it is running very good on all high settings.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Guderian on 12-07-2011, 05:07:48
ummm
IT LOOKS AWESOME!
But won't the ammount of trees on that map cause some laggishnes?

On my 5-old year PC surely, especially with such big distance view...

It's time to say good-bye to that old girl and upgrade to a new and younger model :p
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: General_Henry on 12-07-2011, 06:07:26
I am getting a new laptop just for FH2!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Lightning on 12-07-2011, 12:07:45
For my old computer, Hurtgen probably ran smoothest (out of the new maps), since there are very few buildings and trees have a negligible impact on performance.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kwiot on 12-07-2011, 12:07:55
ummm
IT LOOKS AWESOME!
But won't the ammount of trees on that map cause some laggishnes?

On my 5-old year PC surely, especially with such big distance view...

It's time to say good-bye to that old girl and upgrade to a new and younger model :p

First I need to get money for this!  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kev4000 on 12-07-2011, 18:07:47
There's a few optimizations in FH2.4 as well.
Though noticeable performance is likely to be unaffected overall from 2.3.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 12-07-2011, 18:07:02
Loading times are shorter for me for some reason. Or at least that's what they feel like. Possible?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: :| Hi on 12-07-2011, 19:07:04
Yeah, they shorter for me than in 2.3 :I
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kubador on 12-07-2011, 19:07:34
For me FH2 is even more demanding on performance but that is due to new ***.*** :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 12-07-2011, 21:07:23
Give up the old rigs, please. I did, too, and even when I still had it, I didn't bitch about the next-to-nonexistent hardware demands. If you want your FH2 to look contemporary and better than that other mod, you can't expect to play it on a gaming rig several generations behind the current. Fact is, if you buy a top-of-the-line system now, it will be "average" the next year and in the bargain bin the year after, three years on and you can't get a slower PC unless you go for an office PC with mobo-integrated graphics.

As for conspiracies, <Palpatine>all is as I have foreseen it</Palpatine>. The REAL reason for the lukewarm reception of fan-vamping Aberdeen into Kasserine was that the They (devs & tadabesters) knew all along that a Kasserine map was already in the works.

However, extrapolating on that one, what else they have in the works that they are in public vehemently denying or half-reluctantly disawoving? P-38 Lightning is "not needed" because it is already in the works?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Smiles on 13-07-2011, 00:07:51
Ooommaaahaaaaaaaaaaaa
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kev4000 on 13-07-2011, 04:07:17
Ooommaaahaaaaaaaaaaaa

When I first joined up a month or two prior to 2.15, in 2008, I had a wild conspiracy that Normandy was taking so long because they were working on Russia in secrecy, probably around 50% done.
When I got the developer build I was kinda disappointed. Normandy wasn't even half-done, and I was among those tasked with finishing it.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ajs47951 on 13-07-2011, 05:07:26
wow I don't think I have had a computer longer then 2 years before I made a new the one I have now is only 2 mouths old
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Smiles on 13-07-2011, 14:07:54
Congratulations, you have more money to spend on parts than me, hppy now?

Sorry kev4000, im an ass.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: hitm4k3r on 13-07-2011, 15:07:05
wow I don't think I have had a computer longer then 2 years before I made a new the one I have now is only 2 mouths old

Yeah, when you have the money for it, it is no problem. When I had performance problems while am Forgotten Honor event, there were some people, who couldn't believe it (there maps are not good optimized). And I always play pure FH2 on highest settings without any problem.
But the fact is, that not everybody has a strong PC or at leat the money to buy one. ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: McCloskey on 13-07-2011, 16:07:59
get a job :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: THeTA0123 on 13-07-2011, 16:07:09
get a job :P
But there's a problem with that

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uORAyORWRAA
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 14-07-2011, 05:07:06
So we got the pre-release client, the server files, the changelog, all maps were shown, new inf, vehicle and plane changes were shown, yet there will be one more update between now and the release.... what else can possibly be shown! :o

unless im totally wrong, conspiracies can start now ;D

Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Raziel on 14-07-2011, 10:07:31
So we got the pre-release client, the server files, the changelog, all maps were shown, new inf, vehicle and plane changes were shown, yet there will be one more update between now and the release.... what else can possibly be shown! :o
unless im totally wrong, conspiracies can start now ;D

A user manual was mentioned so I expect that to be shown today together with a 2.4 teaser.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TheRevoluzer on 14-07-2011, 10:07:45
There could be another map (SME), although stated that there are "only" 5
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: hitm4k3r on 14-07-2011, 11:07:59
get a job :P

I have a job and also study at university. So it is enough for me to live, but not enough to buy an expensive High End PC :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 21-08-2011, 19:08:57
This afternoon, there was a server online titled "Kev's server" running "battle_for_stonne" with someone called "Kev4000" listed as the (then) only player...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hjaldrgud on 22-08-2011, 02:08:18
hmmm. Googled abit.. The battle of Stonne took place between 15 and 17 May, and the town changed hands 17 times.
That is SICK
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: hitm4k3r on 22-08-2011, 12:08:35
Didn't we some screenshots of this map in the modding section some time ago? To say it better, in the French Hope section. I am really looking forward to this map, since the layout seems to be very interresting. I hope it will find it's way into the French Hope release.

Edit: Sorry, there are only screenshots of Sonne from very early stages. They layout is from Sedan.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 22-08-2011, 13:08:12
Yes, there were screenshots. And, Stonne (along with Sedan) was supposed to be put into public betatesting on Bastille Day, but 2.4 kind of stole the wind and that event was cancelled.

But curiouser and curiouser, later in the evening the player list of "Kev's" showed several more devs and tadabesters, so this can only mean one thing...

...pending an official news update, French Hope has been accepted into official development.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 22-08-2011, 13:08:10
Any more "french hope" maps you "saw"?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 22-08-2011, 13:08:18
Was too busy playing and developing unfounded conspiracy theories to notice ;)

On the other hand, during some betatesting nights, I have only "seen" one map per night. So the number of maps really proves nothing.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: hitm4k3r on 22-08-2011, 14:08:45
Any more "french hope" maps you "saw"?

I skipped a bit through the French Hope threat. Two other maps were mentioned. A map called "Bir Hakeim". There are different possiblities for this battle if you use wikipedia. 1. The Battle for Bir Hakeim in Lybia, what would add one more african map with one more faction for the african theatre. And 2. the resistance group of "Maquis Bir-Hakeim". This would be very interesting, but I think the first solution is the more obvivious one.

Second map shown in the threat and also spotted on the test server is "Operation Dynamo". There are some screen shots of the cliffs and other spots on this map. Could be some layout as the 32 player version of PdH but much bigger. Brittish and french forces get pushed to the sea or something like that. This could be very interesting with mixed forces. But we will see.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 22-08-2011, 19:08:53
 I just hope they release Battle Of Foy by Xmas.

 Not sure what happened to it.



 8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: djinn on 22-08-2011, 19:08:30
Fair guess, Same thing that happened to Omaha *Runs away*
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: DLFReporter on 22-08-2011, 21:08:10
Not every map tested was able to make it into 2.4 just keep your faith. ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 22-08-2011, 22:08:45
I just wonder why Nissi "reject" his Collevile Draw project... ;)

would be nice if devs have look on that map, but to be honest - 64 players are too few for Omaha Beach map
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Nissi on 22-08-2011, 22:08:30
Because it sucks! Pics taken yesterday for some other reasons.

I have something else to do, the solution can be found on one of the following pics:


(http://www.abload.de/img/screen017zf0m.jpg)

(http://www.abload.de/img/screen018qexn.jpg)

(http://www.abload.de/img/screen0204cjd.jpg)

Just to make it clear: This post has only one purpose and this one is to generate confusion.  8)
Never hope that I finish this one!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 22-08-2011, 22:08:09
Dude you know you're not supposed to leak vehicles! I wonder if I am aloowed to delete it even if it is not technically a bot...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 22-08-2011, 23:08:12
I lol at this if I'm not so retarded as I may look :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: djinn on 22-08-2011, 23:08:55
@Nissi
Besides the sudden juts on picture 2, that actually looks more like a real life Omaha. Why stop?!

Oh, and where is the hidden vehicle, TS. You know we don't like surprises :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 22-08-2011, 23:08:39
there are a lot more pictures in the Colleville Draw thread. And actually it is the real Omaha Beach... ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: djinn on 23-08-2011, 02:08:53
I meant more so than any other...

Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: DLFReporter on 23-08-2011, 08:08:31
Nice work Nissi looks really smooth. :)
Hush Ts!  :o
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hjaldrgud on 23-08-2011, 10:08:31
Where are most of the devs efforts put in? What do they focus on now? Eastern front, France 1940, Italy? D-day? It seems that they create things for all these..  :D I guess they focus on Eastern front?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: djinn on 23-08-2011, 14:08:10
Fair guess, Finishing the Remaining Bulge/ Fall 1944 maps and perhaps one or two Eastfront maps... Might not make it into the next patch though
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: hitm4k3r on 24-08-2011, 14:08:17
Fair guess, Finishing the Remaining Bulge/ Fall 1944 maps and perhaps one or two Eastfront maps... Might not make it into the next patch though

In the modding section I explained to someone, what software is needed for mapping or modeling/texturing etc. and I gave a little hint, that mappers could be needed more propably. Then a Betatester or a Dev, don't know exactly, added that they have more maps than they can test. So maybe there is a good chance to see alot more maps in general (also for eastern front), maybe not in the next patch but afterwards when eastern front is coming. Also Lightning stated that there won't be any eastern front maps in the next patch. I could imagine, that the focus is more on finish the Bulge - as Djinn mentioned - and ofcourse I hope for French Hope included as soon as possible. This would add a nice new dimension to the mod.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 24-08-2011, 15:08:55
I hope to see some hungarian stuff in the future but I'm worried about it as hungarian front thread is dead now  :-[
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: djinn on 24-08-2011, 16:08:29
I would rather have the Russian maps 2 releases away than one, and here is why.

Some amount of gameplay tweaking needs to exist to maintain the current mode of play while making FH2 unique in the Eastern front. Otherwise, once you've played Vossenack, Totalize and the like, you've played the Eastern front.

AND I think we have just one major update to finally include any missing Normandy battles we think worth exploring, and more Bulge maps like Foy. After that, I imagine suggestions upon suggestions coming out for moar and moar Eastern Front maps and then Early war. It will be bad politics at that time to turn back.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst on 04-09-2011, 20:09:30
battle of keren right now on the testserver. That mean more Italians and more Africa! Will it feature only british units or maybe a french and british combined force versus Italians?

And Gametracker shows that Kuuterselka, battle for stonne (French Hope!!!) and crimea 1944 were played.

http://www.gametracker.com/server_info/88.198.52.198:16567/

EDIT:
Targu Frumos spoted.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 04-09-2011, 21:09:29
Targu Frumos spotted!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Battle_of_T%C3%A2rgu_Frumos
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Battle_of_T%C3%A2rgu_Frumos
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: General_Henry on 05-09-2011, 11:09:06
I hope to see some hungarian stuff in the future but I'm worried about it as hungarian front thread is dead now  :-[

would love to see The battle of Budapest maps... would be epic.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Smiles on 09-09-2011, 11:09:24
Will we ever see the Priest?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: IrishReloaded on 09-09-2011, 12:09:14
I hope to see some hungarian stuff in the future but I'm worried about it as hungarian front thread is dead now  :-[

would love to see The battle of Budapest maps... would be epic.

Brest with Kingtiger
(http://www.allmystery.de/i/tQA19Kz_trollface.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Lightning on 09-09-2011, 13:09:34
Will we ever see the Priest?
You're doing it wrong. That's a question, not a conspiracy.

A conspiracy would be "We haven't seen the priest yet because the devs are secretly working on another kind of mobile artillery!"
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LHeureux on 09-09-2011, 14:09:23
Will we ever see the Priest?
You're doing it wrong. That's a question, not a conspiracy.

A conspiracy would be "We haven't seen the priest yet because the devs are secretly working on another kind of mobile artillery called the Sexton!"
Fixed it for you.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: hitm4k3r on 09-09-2011, 16:09:21
I would like to see the Priest more than the Sexton. The Priest belongs to Battlefield like Wake Island. Maybe we can get both. It is always better to have more than just one  ;D

I for one think, that Lightening is trying to confuse us and that the Priest is allready done.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: IrishReloaded on 09-09-2011, 16:09:09
there is so much stuff done,
The only real problem with getting patches out is the time the maps need.


Would like to see a remake of Wake island, every battlefield had it, FH need it too.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: djinn on 09-09-2011, 16:09:26
FH already DID  :P


Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: hitm4k3r on 09-09-2011, 17:09:44
there is so much stuff done,
The only real problem with getting patches out is the time the maps need.


Would like to see a remake of Wake island, every battlefield had it, FH need it too.

Didn't you play the WaW Event? It gave a little taste how Wake Island could be like in FH2. Now we only need japanese playermodels and weapons and all this stuff. I feel, as we are only 2 years away of these things. :'(
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 09-09-2011, 17:09:32
If the dev team had loads of workhors... workforce, then we could get eastern front, italy, asia, pacific... anything a lot faster. But you have to be helluva talented and dedicated to get into the dev team.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 09-09-2011, 17:09:43
I feel, as we are only 2 years away of these things. :'(
That is, if everything goes the way you want it, which means:

1) there will be a devteam still working on FH2 in 2 years
2) nothing has been lost in crashes in the meantime
3) BF3 still has no mod support
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 09-09-2011, 17:09:17
A conspiracy would be "We haven't seen the priest yet because the devs are secretly working on another kind of mobile artillery!"
M12 Gun Motor Carriage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M12_Gun_Motor_Carriage) confirmed! ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: djinn on 09-09-2011, 18:09:50
I feel, as we are only 2 years away of these things. :'(
That is, if everything goes the way you want it, which means:

1) there will be a devteam still working on FH2 in 2 years
2) nothing has been lost in crashes in the meantime
3) BF3 still has no mod support

And the Pacific IS the next focus... We've been saying Pacific for 2 years now.

I do hope the Pacific ISN'T like the map from WAW. It was fun and all, but it was still horribly scaled. I would want to play a Wake island with correct dimensions or one that at least FEELS like it, not some sliver of land in the middle of nowhere
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: hitm4k3r on 09-09-2011, 20:09:50
I feel, as we are only 2 years away of these things. :'(
That is, if everything goes the way you want it, which means:

1) there will be a devteam still working on FH2 in 2 years
2) nothing has been lost in crashes in the meantime
3) BF3 still has no mod support

And the Pacific IS the next focus... We've been saying Pacific for 2 years now.

I do hope the Pacific ISN'T like the map from WAW. It was fun and all, but it was still horribly scaled. I would want to play a Wake island with correct dimensions or one that at least FEELS like it, not some sliver of land in the middle of nowhere

You know that Wake Island is scaled quiet real? I think it's a much bigger in reality but all in all it looks the same as in BF2/in FH2 WaW. It is just an island in the middle of nowhere. Just use google and you will see.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: djinn on 09-09-2011, 20:09:33
No, I get that. But it takes 5 seconds to run its width across each arm.. Not sure that will work if you want a Fh2 version. It feels too much like a battle arena at that size than a battlefield that was.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: hitm4k3r on 09-09-2011, 21:09:56
No, I get that. But it takes 5 seconds to run its width across each arm.. Not sure that will work if you want a Fh2 version. It feels too much like a battle arena at that size than a battlefield that was.

Yeah. In this case you are right. But If you consider, that the whole area is around 17 square kilometre in reality and we have a max size of 4 in BF, then we have to make compromises. Ofcourse a FH2 version of Wake would need alot of work, but I am still dreaming ...  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 09-09-2011, 21:09:36
No, I get that. But it takes 5 seconds to run its width across each arm.. Not sure that will work if you want a Fh2 version. It feels too much like a battle arena at that size than a battlefield that was.

Yeah. In this case you are right. But If you consider, that the whole area is around 17 square kilometre in reality and we have a max size of 4 in BF, then we have to make compromises. Ofcourse a FH2 version of Wake would need alot of work, but I am still dreaming ...  ;D

In bf2 we have a max size of 4km long map which result in 16km2, am I right? And according to Wikipedia Wake Island has 7.38 km2 so it is possible to make it 1:1 scale map or really close to 1:1 but gameplay on such thing should be different from vbf and from what we remember from bf1942 to make sense and be fun...  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: kummitus on 09-09-2011, 22:09:46
Longest point of the island is something like 6-8 kilometres so you can't fit it into a one single map.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 09-09-2011, 22:09:37
oh yeah, my bad...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: djinn on 09-09-2011, 22:09:57
oh yeah, my bad...

Unless the devs give up their life-long hate for ships, you can expect a map at least twice as large as that currently being played on Waw...

And even with ocean... I imagine, it will still have to be larger... Might also be just a part of Wake...


But this is all diverting offtopic... Its not a conspiracy.. Just our stupid wish for Pacific shit.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 09-09-2011, 22:09:29
Life-long hate? You taking the piss?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Neighbor Kid on 09-09-2011, 23:09:26
whats missing.. well.. more maps with thunder lighting and rain!... more weather maps if you ask me!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FatJoe on 18-09-2011, 03:09:33
Unless the devs give up their life-long hate for ships

I want to touch on this misunderstanding, briefly...

We do not hate ships, we do not bear any life-long hate for ships. And I'm not really quite sure where you got the idea that we not only hate ships, but bear life-long hatred towards them.. I can relate it to the fact that we don't have ships in FH2 yet, but that's only due to us not having released those yet.

Fact is that we've already spent some time working on ships, some very long time ago (around a similar time as when we didn't release that leaked U-Boat video on youtube..) and re-visited perhaps a year ago or so. The thing is that we don't like our options on how ships work in BF2, we would have to look at compromises to make it work in a way where everybody is happy with it and with everything else going on, we haven't put any focus on it until perhaps when we'd reach the pacific, where they should play a large role in.

It just makes me sad that you think we hate ships just because we haven't implemented them in a way we like yet, or gotten around on finishing it. We don't hate, we love! :'(
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FatJoe on 18-09-2011, 03:09:23
Ps..

There are no plans to make a stand alone Forgotten Hope 3 on a completely new engine..

Discuss!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Wilhelm on 18-09-2011, 03:09:29
Ps..

There are no plans to make a stand alone Forgotten Hope 3 on a completely new engine..

Discuss!

FH 2.5!  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: djinn on 18-09-2011, 04:09:00
HAHA! Joe.

You crack me up. Ok, fine, you guys don't hate ships. But the avenue for them coming in a format you may accept already exist. But I will elaborate this in another thread - Might have to dig up some old dusty 'Pacific/ ships thread' but still...


@Wilhelm
More like Forgotten Hope 3 or Forgotten Hope [Put Engine Name Here]

For me, I'd keep my eyes on 1944 Operation Overlord.. you know, that game that promises to give you real time WWII... Well, it'd probably not work, but the engine may have something we like.

All I'd want to see for the next FH, or it wont justify a migration is:
Total internals for vehicles and armor.
Ability to move in and around the inside of a tank,
proximity communication either by quick comm or VoIP, engine kill,
Garand mid-clip reload
All magazined-guns mid-clip single bullets reload
Up to 512 player maps
Complete and realistic environment destruction, including ability to create craters, etc
Ability to completely determine damage of various weapons to allow the conical damage area for grenades.
Multiple ammunition for weapon 0 i.e firing with bayonets.
Random faces and clothing for EACH player
dismemberment, visible blood damage and animated death that is taken over by ragdoll physics.
Modular destruction of vehicles.
Ability to mount LMGs on any surface that allows you to aim over and fire.
Graphics that allow for knee length coats.
Ability to pick up single weapons, rather than kits, so you can customize what you have on you.

Anything less, and we're better of staying right here.
Once those are in, I see No-o reason NOT to migrate  8)

Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 18-09-2011, 13:09:16
But this is all diverting offtopic... Its not a conspiracy.. Just our stupid wish for Pacific shit.
And yet you just "wall-of-text" on in here about non-conspiracy stuff. Me no understand.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: djinn on 18-09-2011, 13:09:45
I am but human :)

Actually, I was trying to blunten that potential off-topic discussion by laying out the improbably and setting it as condition, so that there would be no reason for anyone to pursue that argument..

I guess I got carried away...

Can you blame me, its like something talking about Alpenstung 2 - Its hard to resist
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LuckyOne on 18-09-2011, 14:09:40

For me, I'd keep my eyes on 1944 Operation Overlord.. you know, that game that promises to give you real time WWII... Well, it'd probably not work, but the engine may have something we like.


Except they currently got NO engine AFAIK... They switched engines countless times and are still searching for a perfect one..
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: General_Henry on 18-09-2011, 16:09:33
No, I get that. But it takes 5 seconds to run its width across each arm.. Not sure that will work if you want a Fh2 version. It feels too much like a battle arena at that size than a battlefield that was.

Yeah. In this case you are right. But If you consider, that the whole area is around 17 square kilometre in reality and we have a max size of 4 in BF, then we have to make compromises. Ofcourse a FH2 version of Wake would need alot of work, but I am still dreaming ...  ;D

we need just a remake of the FHSW Iwo Jima Day 1... there will be a lot of party underground tunnel/bunker fights, and sudden Japanese squad with katanas charging to your flanks...  **dreams** ...until a flamethrower guy come and ruin the day by TKing all his teammates.

(well and expect "WTF LOOK AT THE MINIMAP" kind of message)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: djinn on 18-09-2011, 18:09:28
Goodness - I AM a catalyst for thread derailment. I think I will keep quiet till I have something more... *rubs hands cunningly*... conspiratorious-SS to say.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Steel_Lion_FIN on 18-09-2011, 18:09:09
Suddenly a wild news countdown appears!

Countdown uses "exite."

It's super effective!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Thorondor123 on 18-09-2011, 18:09:05
A wild Lightning appears!

Enemy Lightning uses Dreamcrush!

Critical hit!

It's super effective!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Tuco on 19-09-2011, 08:09:26
Critical hit!
baaw god i need to stop playing wot.. :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: :| Hi on 19-09-2011, 08:09:11
/shitty beeping sound plays

Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst on 25-09-2011, 16:09:38
Battle at Puffendorf spoted again on testserver. Operation Nordwind spoted, so we get another map with a German army attacking americans?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 25-09-2011, 17:09:47
Germans vs Americans? Haha, you guys are funny ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: McCloskey on 25-09-2011, 18:09:53
Frenchies?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ciupita on 25-09-2011, 18:09:34
Aliens vs. Predators.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: DaWorg! on 25-09-2011, 19:09:44
I bet on Germans vs. Predator
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 25-09-2011, 19:09:22
I bet on Germans vs. Predator
this could be the only one thing more awesome than lobster knife fight.

EDIT: Battle of Keren (probably with new Fiat 508 ;)) on test sever! :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: sheikyerbouti on 26-09-2011, 04:09:57
 Schism makes good maps, I have always hoped for more North Africa maps. The battle of Keren, in particular, holds promise for a hard fought Italians vs. British battleground.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Lightning on 26-09-2011, 08:09:40
Keren's not in North Africa though...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: sheikyerbouti on 26-09-2011, 23:09:55
Keren's not in North Africa though...

Lol, we have been through this before Lightning. I know where Keren is, but for the sake of simplicity and association with our existing theatres, it is best to relate the Battle of Keren to our existing North African campaign maps. (unless you want to promise a NEW East African theatre, and you surely do not)

 For those who wish to know, Keren is an ancient province of the Kingdom of Ethiopia (During WW2 it was still Ethiopian, under the control of the Italian's, but is now part of Eritrea).
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: :| Hi on 27-09-2011, 06:09:17
Wasn't there an argument over who owned it at the time, here on the forums?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 06-10-2011, 20:10:24
Für those who vere doubting what ze "Frühlingswind" meant - I spy vit my little eye Sidi Bou Zid on ze sekrit server.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Eat Uranium on 06-10-2011, 21:10:18
You probably thought that that map was Sidi Bou Zid.  Nope, Chuck Testa.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: McCloskey on 15-11-2011, 20:11:27
20/OF/NOVEMBER...BREAK/ATTENTION/ALL/FORCES...BREAK/ENEMY/REINFORCEMENTS/SPOTTED...BREAK/PREPARE/TO/FALL/BACK...BREAK/END/TRANSMISSION - tis posted on teh fb

2.45 incoming?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LuckyOne on 15-11-2011, 21:11:38
20/OF/NOVEMBER...BREAK/ATTENTION/ALL/FORCES...BREAK/ENEMY/REINFORCEMENTS/SPOTTED...BREAK/PREPARE/TO/FALL/BACK...BREAK/END/TRANSMISSION - tis posted on teh fb

2.45 incoming?

Nah, it's way too early... Howewer I smell Axis bias again...  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: McCloskey on 15-11-2011, 21:11:48
2.25 came out about 4 months after 2.2 too didn't it? it's not unlikely... plus they don't announce regular content updates this way afaik. but I guess I won't get my hopes up :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Krätzer on 16-11-2011, 10:11:20
2.45 incoming?

(http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af43/BGF-Kraetzer/Privat/index.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 16-11-2011, 19:11:43
Or... Soviet player models?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kradovech on 16-11-2011, 20:11:16
just got a flashback from the "amazing things will happen"
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: RAnDOOm on 16-11-2011, 23:11:59
.5 would be nice.   ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: azreal on 16-11-2011, 23:11:28
It's funny because not even the betatesters know what's dropping on Sunday.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hjaldrgud on 19-11-2011, 03:11:48
Bricks will hopefully be shat on Sunday...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Butcher on 19-11-2011, 13:11:12
we still dont have the basic stuff for the eastern front like:
- T34
- Mosin Nagant
- Soviet Models
- Katyuscha
- IS 2

HOWEVER, seeing that there were so much changes to stuff on current maps i think that stuff will be released
- Bishop
- Panzer III M
- Luger etc.

but im bad at guessing anyways
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: IrishReloaded on 19-11-2011, 13:11:12
actually people should know how a patch is released.
It starts 1,5 month before with showing maps, and then 3 weeks before with Road to 2.XX 1, 2, 3. So that everyone is informed, not only the "nerds" that live in this forums :D
So you really think we get a patch out of nothing?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 19-11-2011, 13:11:25
Wasn't the "enemy reinforcements" bit used last when showing Bulge playermodels?

EDIT: Memory failure. It was used prior to Meuse River 1944 update. Speculation: first Ostfront map, or 2.45 maps for Bulge/Normandy/Africa?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: THeTA0123 on 19-11-2011, 14:11:53
It's funny because not even the betatesters know what's dropping on Sunday.
Nazi wolf cavalry, i KNEW IT
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Smiles on 20-11-2011, 15:11:48
Yay i love big news updates. Always makes me excited eventhough fh2 has been shoved into a corner for a while due BF3 and Skyrim!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: CologneSky on 12-12-2011, 12:12:55
Hmhh. No new conspiracies?   ::)

Come on guys, tell us of new maps you spotted etc..

Really awaiting the Eastern Front!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 12-12-2011, 16:12:50
Hmhh. No new conspiracies?   ::)

Come on guys, tell us of new maps you spotted etc..

Really awaiting the Eastern Front!

I'm afraid the devs decided to hide the test server.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Lightning on 12-12-2011, 16:12:59
You'd think that would cause more conspiracies...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: hankypanky on 12-12-2011, 17:12:06
How many conspiracies on here actually proved to be true?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 12-12-2011, 17:12:51
... Read them?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: ww2fighter20 on 16-12-2011, 17:12:57
In which map will we see this one? Late Germany? Alpenvestung V2?;D
(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/6016/87357179.jpg)
You can use it in singleplayer already, I replaced it in cobra with the M18
(I knew about this tank short after release of 2.4 but I didn't have an account back then)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: THeTA0123 on 16-12-2011, 17:12:17
In which map will we see this one? Late Germany? Alpenvestung V2?;D
(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/6016/87357179.jpg)
You can use it in singleplayer already, I replaced it in cobra with the M18
(I knew about this tank short after release of 2.4 but I didn't have an account back then)
IS THAT

MON DIEU!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 16-12-2011, 17:12:05
LoL someone forgot to delete it before release.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Krätzer on 16-12-2011, 18:12:11
LoL someone forgot to delete it before release.

Nope?  ;D

Someone forgot a .txt. file  :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kwiot on 16-12-2011, 18:12:36
In which map will we see this one? Late Germany? Alpenvestung V2?;D
(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/6016/87357179.jpg)
You can use it in singleplayer already, I replaced it in cobra with the M18
(I knew about this tank short after release of 2.4 but I didn't have an account back then)

Is this Pershing?

Did you do this with Bfeditor?

Edit: Ah, I forgot that you can do this in notepad...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 16-12-2011, 18:12:23
LoL someone forgot to delete it before release.

Nope?  ;D

Someone forgot a .txt. file  :D

ah yes ignore.txt
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: ww2fighter20 on 16-12-2011, 19:12:17
Yes it is the pershing.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LHeureux on 17-12-2011, 06:12:26
Sucessful conspiracies!  :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Krätzer on 17-12-2011, 09:12:02
Since he wasn´t tested he is out of balance. guess how he plays yet he will not play if there is a Map for him  ;D


To sad i deleted last Week the latest beta build of BGF, if i had it still i would upload it so you could se that it was coming closer to same Tank Gameplay FH2 has.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: sn00x on 17-12-2011, 12:12:50
To sad i deleted last Week the latest beta build of BGF, if i had it allready i would upload it so you could se that it was coming closer to same Tank Gameplay FH2 has.

Bullocks.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Eat Uranium on 17-12-2011, 13:12:07
Bullocks.
(http://www.northumberlandfarmholidays.co.uk/images/bullocks.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MrPolska on 17-12-2011, 16:12:17
In which map will we see this one? Late Germany? Alpenvestung V2?;D
(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/6016/87357179.jpg)
You can use it in singleplayer already, I replaced it in cobra with the M18
(I knew about this tank short after release of 2.4 but I didn't have an account back then)

Is this Pershing?

Did you do this with Bfeditor?

Edit: Ah, I forgot that you can do this in notepad...

Czesc

can you please post a small to do, how to make this tank playable ;)

Thanks
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: ww2fighter20 on 17-12-2011, 17:12:51
In which map will we see this one? Late Germany? Alpenvestung V2?;D
(http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/6016/87357179.jpg)
You can use it in singleplayer already, I replaced it in cobra with the M18
(I knew about this tank short after release of 2.4 but I didn't have an account back then)

Is this Pershing?

Did you do this with Bfeditor?

Edit: Ah, I forgot that you can do this in notepad...

Czesc

can you please post a small to do, how to make this tank playable ;)

Thanks


follow this to change vehicles in fh2 maps in singleplayer:

C:/programm files/EA GAMES/Battlefield 2/mods/fh2

then open the objects_vehicles_server.zip or objects_vehicles_client.zip, then look for the vehicle's name, example: vehicles/land/US/(copy or write the name excactly of vehicle, excample: M26_Pershing).
After this open the map you want to put it into, example: fh2/levels/(map name, excample: alam_halfa) and open server.zip/gamemodes/sp3/64/gameplayobjects.con with notebook. (please back-up this file)
Look for something like this:

ObjectTemplate.setObjectTemplate 2 m3grant

And change it into

ObjectTemplate.setObjectTemplate 2 M26_Pershing


If you can't save  or open the file start with dragging the gameplayobjects.con out of the zip file, then change the last 3 letters from .con to .txt and save it, after this follow the steps above and at last drag it back to the location in the zip file and save it.

After this you can play, but sometimes the system crashes to desktop, this is probably the problem the vehicle isn't finished or hasn't got an ai file, you can't do much more then.


I hope this informs you well enough.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Paasky on 17-12-2011, 20:12:03
LoL someone forgot to delete it before release.

Nope?  ;D

Someone forgot a .txt. file  :D

ah yes ignore.txt
I hate that file.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: musska on 17-12-2011, 20:12:06
Doooon't wooory PPAAsssky, after 2 bottles it's cool ! hard to unwrapp right but what it worth !
(http://i46.servimg.com/u/f46/14/76/68/04/screen27.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=54&u=14766804)
Look that file instead !!
(http://i46.servimg.com/u/f46/14/76/68/04/screen28.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=55&u=14766804)

Conpirashit , don't hate 4 that !
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MrPolska on 17-12-2011, 21:12:19

follow this to change vehicles in fh2 maps in singleplayer:

C:/programm files/EA GAMES/Battlefield 2/mods/fh2

then open the objects_server.zip or objects_client.zip, then look for the vehicle's name, example: vehicles/land/US/(copy or write the name excactly of vehicle, excample: M26_Pershing).
After this open the map you want to put it into, example: fh2/levels/(map name, excample: alam_halfa) and open server.zip/gamemodes/sp3/64/gameplayobjects.con with notebook. (please back-up this file)
Look for something like this:

ObjectTemplate.setObjectTemplate 2 m3grant

And change it into

ObjectTemplate.setObjectTemplate 2 M26_Pershing


If you can't save  or open the file start with dragging the gameplayobjects.con out of the zip file, then change the last 3 letters from .con to .txt and save it, after this follow the steps above and at last drag it back to the location in the zip file and save it.

After this you can play, but sometimes the system crashes to desktop, this is probably the problem the vehicle isn't finished or hasn't got an ai file, you can't do much more then.


I hope this informs you well enough.

Thanks  ww2fighter20 it works perfectly ;)

Small corrections the names of the FH-models are in the objects_vehicles_server file and not in the objects_server.zip or objects_client.zip files.


I put my Perhing on the Alma Halfa map

Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Battlefieldfan45 (CroPanzer) on 17-12-2011, 23:12:08
Interesting things going around here... ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: ww2fighter20 on 17-12-2011, 23:12:59
You are right about server_vehicles I didn't looked when typing this, its corrected now.

I didn't tell you can also do this with weapon kits that is in the object_server.zip and change choose kits and country's in init.con (germany needs panzerschreck with Pershing now  :D)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LtnGeorge on 18-12-2011, 14:12:24
We have a working pershing at the WaW tournement which we use.
Work fine as a counter to the tiger and panther.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Paasky on 18-12-2011, 15:12:22
Doooon't wooory PPAAsssky, after 2 bottles it's cool ! hard to unwrapp right but what it worth !
(http://i46.servimg.com/u/f46/14/76/68/04/screen27.jpg) (http://www.servimg.com/image_preview.php?i=54&u=14766804)

Conpirashit , don't hate 4 that !
;D
Awesome.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 25-12-2011, 20:12:02
The map hasn't been worked on for several years, so it's unlikely it will ever be in a patch.
O RLY?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 25-12-2011, 21:12:21
"Unlikely" =/= impossible ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Lightning on 25-12-2011, 21:12:44
It was true when I said it.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LuckyOne on 01-01-2012, 20:01:38
Site crashed? Ninja update?  :D

EDIT: guess not, just too many folks expecting one  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Krätzer on 02-01-2012, 10:01:52
afaik, the Hoster puts side every Sunday on Update time down  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TASSER on 22-01-2012, 02:01:50
So I was browsing around the FH2 webpage and decided to give the Armies/Vehicles/Weapons/Maps tabs a look over. It's been a while since I sat back and truly admired from afar the beauty that goes into each and every component of the mod. I was thouroughly enjoying the American handweapons when...

 :o bangalores... and the ever so sweet word upcoming along with it.

I feverishly searched through the rest of the pages and discovered Horsa gliders included as well!

Conspiracy slipping new content into the archives by the Devs? More importantly, Omaha Beach and Pegasus Bridge upcoming?!?!  :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Eat Uranium on 22-01-2012, 02:01:43
Not really a conspiracy.  Both of those were featured in news updated before even 2.2 had come out.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TASSER on 22-01-2012, 13:01:25
Not really a conspiracy.  Both of those were featured in news updated before even 2.2 had come out.

Excitement squashed. *Facepalm at own noobish-ness.

However, really hope both those assets make their way into some maps very soon!  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: CologneSky on 09-03-2012, 00:03:54
since today there is a new banner when starting FH2 stating "2.45 coming soon"

let the rumors begin!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: AdamPA1006 on 09-03-2012, 04:03:07
Yeah I'm excited for that, cant wait to play the new Karen map.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Michael Z Freeman on 09-03-2012, 13:03:10
They're coming, they're here, they never stop coming ! If you can believe it I only just played through EVERY Forgotten Hope map that I can play in Coop. Almost criminally I had not even gone into Totalize (I must admit I'm a bit of a North Africa die hard) and there's still MP maps that I have to examine. It's a full time job just exploring this mod  8).
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst on 09-03-2012, 13:03:07
I few weeks ago, I spoted a map called "test map" on the test server, must be a map about a super-hyper-top secret operation of ww2, as you cant find anything about operation "test map" on the internet.

The researches have done a great job!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 09-03-2012, 13:03:00
 I wonder if we will see in 2.45....

- Battle Of Foy map
- Another Italian map
- Another Normandy map  (Gold Beach maybe)


one can dream..........

 ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 09-03-2012, 13:03:45
(http://www.abload.de/img/image_germanmrz23.png)

For those of you who are too lazy to go ingame ;)
I made that pic with a lot of help from FatJoe. There will probably be more in the future as the release draws closer.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: ajappat on 09-03-2012, 13:03:31
I have never seen anything in that little window.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 09-03-2012, 13:03:57
That's weird. Look into your Forgottenhp2 folder under documents. There is a folder called LogoCache in there and in there the pics are usually stored under xfh2.infihada.com
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Smiles on 10-03-2012, 00:03:50
Look at that Sherman. it looks amazing!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: CologneSky on 16-03-2012, 16:03:13
So lets up this thread again and speculate about stuff in the new patch.

I'll start with maps:
- Keren (confirmed)
- St. Vith (confirmed)
- There must be at least one map with Americans in North Africa
- Apparently Puffendorf, St. Mere Eglise & Gold Beach have been spotted on test servers..


Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: ajappat on 16-03-2012, 16:03:03
That's weird. Look into your Forgottenhp2 folder under documents. There is a folder called LogoCache in there and in there the pics are usually stored under xfh2.infihada.com
Nope, nothing there.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 16-03-2012, 16:03:11
Weird. Maybe try creating the folder yourself and see what happens.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: ajappat on 18-03-2012, 23:03:32
The folder is there, it's just empty. As are all other folders in LogoCache...

And it isn't just my computer, my old did just same, as did my brothers old computer.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 18-03-2012, 23:03:34
Maybe it has something to do with running fh2 as admin? Like it has no rights to download shit to C:? Meh who cares anyway.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: ajappat on 18-03-2012, 23:03:34
Could be, but well, as you said, who cares. I don't think I have missed any new patches because I didn't see that awesome popup  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 18-03-2012, 23:03:44
Well there is a really awesome one coming up :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: DaniHall on 19-03-2012, 15:03:40
oh french charts, we need them, and I like PeB, one of my fav. so maybe he can create a reprise of this
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: IrishReloaded on 19-03-2012, 15:03:28
" Apparently Puffendorf, St. Mere Eglise & Gold Beach have been spotted on test servers"

they have been spotted for years
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Master_of_Pain_25 on 19-03-2012, 18:03:54
So lets up this thread again and speculate about stuff in the new patch.

I'll start with maps:
- Keren (confirmed)
- St. Vith (confirmed)
- There must be at least one map with Americans in North Africa
- Apparently Puffendorf, St. Mere Eglise & Gold Beach have been spotted on test servers..

I spotted "Overlord" on test server yersterday  :o
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: djinn on 19-03-2012, 18:03:53
Already mentioned many patches back. Overlord is just a test map, NOT a map in development.
Sadly, no conspiracy here.


One of the things on that list has already come true though hasn't it? And the first is at least partly the case.
Keren was shown as was St. Vith. That's italian and also Bulge, no?

I guess our processes are now too airtight, huh?  ;D

I'm sure the keen minds will pick up a bone in the next couple of weeks.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst on 19-03-2012, 18:03:08
Atleast overlord could mean anything. I dont think 4 years back in time is the same as it is now.

Expect the unexpected. The Devs are more nasty than years ago, atleast I feel so. Short (with that I mean still months) before a release, you dont see the maps, which make it for the release build on the server. Suddenly there comes an unexpected map out of nowhere.
Thats why I expect something like st mere eglise with airbourne troops and parachuting out of AI-planes, nobody would expect that.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: djinn on 19-03-2012, 18:03:06
True...

And I notice that people don't scrutinize media the devs show as much as they used to. Especially when the devs showing screenshots and videos right off the maps without removing conspiracy elements first.

Monitoring test server is one thing, but there are ALOT of sources for free-flying data.
Keep your ears to the ground, boys :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: ww2fighter20 on 19-03-2012, 19:03:02
I just looked in past updated and saw Horsa glider, german flare gun, banglore, churchill AVRE, LCVP, and an pershing is in the files from which I shown earlier also an flyable C47 in is the files too, so very likely we can see an paratrooper map and an beach map in the future and maybe also an 1945 Germany map for the pershing use or even alpenfestung 2.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 19-03-2012, 20:03:39
If anything, the devs are more devious now. What is that elusive Test Map A? It could be a test map as the name implies, but then again, it could be some map they want to remain as a complete surprise until the day of "The Road to Forgotten Hope 2.45". ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 19-03-2012, 20:03:53
It is another map. Testmap B is St. Vith (now renamed after it was shown on the website)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Master_of_Pain_25 on 19-03-2012, 22:03:19
I think Tesmap A is the mysterious map we can see in the North African American tanks screenshot.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: HappyFunBall on 20-03-2012, 00:03:37
Atleast overlord could mean anything. I dont think 4 years back in time is the same as it is now.

Expect the unexpected. The Devs are more nasty than years ago, atleast I feel so. Short (with that I mean still months) before a release, you dont see the maps, which make it for the release build on the server. Suddenly there comes an unexpected map out of nowhere.
Thats why I expect something like st mere eglise with airbourne troops and parachuting out of AI-planes, nobody would expect that.

Agree. Overlord is almost certainly a deliberately vague title.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Wakain on 22-03-2012, 23:03:54
lol, HappyFunBall, if you've kept this name for years I've had one great round on bf1942 vanilla Invasion of the Philipines with you. Never forgot the name.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 26-03-2012, 03:03:00
 Wonder if there will be any new medals for 2.45?



 8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Rabid_Rabbit_RI on 26-03-2012, 10:03:06
Whats the status on Market garden or any steps made towards a Arnhem map??? I really want to see a redux of these maps. More balanced then the old FH versions i wasted countless hours on, Buts still with that endless playability factor.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Butcher on 26-03-2012, 13:03:58
Wonder if there will be any new medals for 2.45?

Survife a minute in an italian tank.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: IrishReloaded on 26-03-2012, 16:03:54
lol :D
actually a nice idea XD
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Musti on 26-03-2012, 17:03:48
As I suggested before, a medal for servicing FIATs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdsKz_0JcQk
Requirement: fix 20 FIAT trucks/tanks
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 29-03-2012, 15:03:10
Short test: Does everybody in here get the new ad ingame now?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: hyperanthropos on 29-03-2012, 17:03:25
Since yesterday I see a new add with the Italian tank form the last update.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: ww2fighter20 on 29-03-2012, 17:03:15
You mean the one of the m11/39 with the same screenshot like shown in developers blog?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 29-03-2012, 17:03:52
It's a different screenshot, but yes that's the one I mean. Seems to work then.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: DaWorg! on 11-04-2012, 00:04:59
Just noticed Hurricane Mk 1 and Kittyhawk in British section of aircraft at website. Did i missed some update?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: titsmcgee852 on 11-04-2012, 02:04:06
I think we know what's in one of the next updates now, cos it ain't there anymore  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Musti on 11-04-2012, 02:04:40
I see nothing....If you are still alive and if you can read this, RUN. Get yourself a boat 'cause they'll find you on the land.You might have seen something you weren't supposed to.
...
Whats this red dot on my monitor?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: ww2fighter20 on 11-04-2012, 08:04:10
Yes they removed them together with 2 from the american section, but I still want to see an news update of them, other where there brown/green skinned hurricanes used in Greece, If not I smell Battle of Britain or France ;D.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Harmonikater on 11-04-2012, 14:04:03
did anyone else see the post about the trading cards?

of course i might just be going insane.

and then again it was posted just hours after 1st of april ended.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 11-04-2012, 19:04:39
I made those trading cards. Azreal posted them late at night on 1st April and wanted to make it look like a leak, but everyone was asleept already. This is how I wanted to post them:

Quote
Hello and welcome to another update of Forgotten Hope 2
Since 2.4 was released, we took a good, long look at the mod and decided something was missing:
Money
That's right, we will no longer keep doing this without some proper pay-off. I mean, who are we, the salvation army? It is time you deadbeats ont he public forum started pulling your weight around ehre. Sadly, the terms of use for BF2 preclude us from making any money with a product using the engine. Luckily we thought of a solution during a particularly long blackout. We present you:

THE OFFICIAL FORGOTTEN HOPE 2 TRADING CARD GAME (TM)

(http://www.abload.de/img/volksgrenadierdjj2b.jpg)
(http://www.abload.de/img/shermanwyjtw.jpg)

That's right: Soon you will be able to play Forgotten Hope 2 without contributing to global warming! All you need to do is purchase one of two attractive starter kits (either "AXIS STEEL (TM)" or "ALLIED INVASION (TM)") as well as the 1490 page rulebook (in colour!) and you are good to go! Gather your friends and family for hours of card playing fun. Feel the excitement as your Kingtiger tank rumbles down the streets of Bastogne (disclaimer: streets or rumbling not included). Feel the rush of finally meeting a spawn camper face to face and breaking his fingers with the FORGOTTEN HOPE 2 BASEBALL BAT (TM) (sold separately).

(http://www.abload.de/img/mg42yajac.jpg)

(http://www.abload.de/img/flare4qkkt.jpg)
 
Of course we don't want to totally give up our less profitable electronic game venture. In fact, the FORGOTTEN HOPE TRADING CARD GAME (TM) will be tied into our official award system. Each award can be redeemed for one of our extra  rare cards, like this one:

(http://www.abload.de/img/stg44zfo0jk1.jpg)

But wait! Before you send Lightning your cash, we have some bad news: The Forgotten Hope Online store is not online yet. Our monkeys are working on it, and it should be up next weekend, along with detailed price lists. Our online robot store clerks are looking forward to meeting you!


Obviously this was designed to make people laugh, not to fool them ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LuckyOne on 11-04-2012, 20:04:49
What's there to laugh about? I see this a perfect opportunity to get more ppl interested in FH2! Make the trading card game! NAOUW!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: DaWorg! on 12-04-2012, 00:04:41
Stg-44 ZF ...not rare enough   ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Surfbird on 12-04-2012, 13:04:23
Just noticed Hurricane Mk 1 and Kittyhawk in British section of aircraft at website. Did i missed some update?

I have no clue if i am just giving "news" which are no news, but looks like we got a Hawker Hardy and a Airspeed AS 51 Horsa GLIDER (how awesome is this) in the British aircraft section. Am i way behind your guys information or are the devs playing a game with us ?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Thorondor123 on 12-04-2012, 13:04:32
News update from January:

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/news/120108/hardy.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LuckyOne on 12-04-2012, 13:04:31
Kittyhawk you say? GIVE ME MAH P-40 NOW! (http://www.kdsclub.com.ar/foro/images/smilies/PilotSmiley.GIF)

Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: djinn on 12-04-2012, 13:04:12
Hey, how many canvas-covered bi-planes do we have in FH2 besides the Hawker Hardy.
Its such a graceful plane, really it is  :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: ajappat on 12-04-2012, 13:04:36
Airspeed AS 51 Horsa GLIDER (how awesome is this) in the British aircraft section. Am i way behind your guys information or are the devs playing a game with us ?

That was in news somewhere before FH2.2  ;D

Edit: Yep, was announced 21.05.2009  ::)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Surfbird on 12-04-2012, 14:04:59
Oh, sorry guys ;D I just recently checked the vehicle section and those felt very new to me..
I still had this feeling that this i gonna end up in an epic fail. At least in this point i was right ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TASSER on 12-04-2012, 19:04:47
Oh, sorry guys ;D I just recently checked the vehicle section and those felt very new to me..
I still had this feeling that this i gonna end up in an epic fail. At least in this point i was right ;D

I did the same thing with the Horsa a couple pages back haha.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 13-04-2012, 17:04:37
Kittyhawk you say? GIVE ME MAH P-40 NOW! (http://www.kdsclub.com.ar/foro/images/smilies/PilotSmiley.GIF)
DO WANT
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Paasky on 13-04-2012, 19:04:53
Kittyhawk you say? GIVE ME MAH P-40 NOW! (http://www.kdsclub.com.ar/foro/images/smilies/PilotSmiley.GIF)
DO WANT
*cough* WaW has that (converted from FH1) *cough*
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: azreal on 13-04-2012, 23:04:18
Kittyhawk you say? GIVE ME MAH P-40 NOW! (http://www.kdsclub.com.ar/foro/images/smilies/PilotSmiley.GIF)
DO WANT
*cough* WaW has that (converted from FH1) *cough*

sorry, I had to...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3Wv5mb4j0g
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 29-06-2012, 01:06:26
Any conspiracies on this map??
(Test Map A)
Doesn't look like Kasserine that much.
Or I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 29-06-2012, 02:06:08
It's an old ground forces test map.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 29-06-2012, 02:06:50
It's an old ground forces test map.

Old?
How long ago was it created?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 29-06-2012, 02:06:29
can't tell but afaik it could be seen under different name in server browser some time ago.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 29-06-2012, 02:06:50
Have you tested the map yet?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 29-06-2012, 02:06:34
it's not about the map, it's for testing vehicles in combat situations.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 29-06-2012, 02:06:40
So that isn't an official map,
but it's for testing vehicles?

So to test if it matches gameplay?

Man I was excited for that map,
it looked promising.  :-X
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kwiot on 30-06-2012, 12:06:51
And somebody put there ruins, houses, vegetation, cool sky just for testing vehicles? Eh Kurator, I don't believe you...  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: DLFReporter on 30-06-2012, 12:06:33
This is FH2. The Devs are never half-assed. They can and will make beautiful testing maps that are never released. ^^
I mean hey, the Maus has been ready and imported for ages as an easter-egg on K... *damn* Black choppers over my PC gotta run... ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 30-06-2012, 12:06:42
And somebody put there ruins, houses, vegetation, cool sky just for testing vehicles? Eh Kurator, I don't believe you...  ;D

You think so (Double question marks)

Because they have done so in the past.

Remember these (question mark)

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/080611Cromwell1.jpg)

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/080611Cromwell4.jpg)

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/080611Cromwell6.jpg)

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/080820Fw190Fi156_06.jpg)

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/090806M1_1.jpg)

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/090806P4_3.jpg)

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/090806T2_6.jpg)

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/27208normandy.jpg)

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/140408panther_01.jpg)

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/140408panther_02.jpg)

As you can see. Devs have done maps to demonstrate, test and showcase their work before. Why would this be any different now (question mark)

Also, someone really needs to fix that error in which you cannot post a question mark and an URL in the same post...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: DLFReporter on 30-06-2012, 12:06:39
Awwww... I love that church on the pic with the Panther... it's a work of art!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kwiot on 30-06-2012, 13:06:06
So these maps turned out as an "unsuccessful experiment"?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 30-06-2012, 13:06:21
Yeah, sort of. It's the best name for it  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Lightning on 30-06-2012, 14:06:00
Awwww... I love that church on the pic with the Panther... it's a work of art!
Has anyone ever discovered which church that is? Might be a pretty good hint for an upcoming map. Might be...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kwiot on 30-06-2012, 14:06:39
Were these maps released unofficialy or if is there any possibility to download them?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 30-06-2012, 14:06:38
Nope. Never. EVER
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 30-06-2012, 14:06:23
Has anyone ever discovered which church that is? Might be a pretty good hint for an upcoming map. Might be...
I did but I won't tell in public  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: DLFReporter on 30-06-2012, 14:06:05
Dreamcrusher in 3...2...1... :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kwiot on 30-06-2012, 14:06:42
These pictures smell like Caen, but I might be wrong....  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 30-06-2012, 16:06:51
Those pictures with the KingTiger and the Panzer IV look to me like a german town for some reason. Maybe the Rhine town? It just reminds me of Germany and I don't know why!  ???
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 30-06-2012, 16:06:00
"Rhine town"? wat
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: ww2fighter20 on 30-06-2012, 16:06:33
I also think caen, I also can remember someone mentioned that the church was from caen (with pics) when this pic was shown in an newsupdate.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 30-06-2012, 16:06:29
"Rhine town"? wat

xD
Isin't there a town in west germany called Rhine?

or "Rhineland"?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 30-06-2012, 16:06:21
The Rhine is a river...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 30-06-2012, 16:06:20
I think I've lost my mind.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Lightning on 30-06-2012, 17:06:41
These pictures smell like Caen, but I might be wrong....  :P
The church tower is indeed very similar to caen's Saint Etienne's Church (http://media-1.web.britannica.com/eb-media/49/5849-004-7064D7AC.jpg) and that map was no doubt made to represent Caen (it's not a real map, just 10 building and a church to show off in game things), but it is not Caen's church. It belongs to a different town.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 30-06-2012, 21:06:56
This is FH2. The Devs are never half-assed. They can and will make beautiful testing maps that are never released. ^^
I mean hey, the Maus has been ready and imported for ages as an easter-egg on K... *damn* Black choppers over my PC gotta run... ;D

Kummersdorf?  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Master_of_Pain_25 on 02-07-2012, 21:07:31
Actually on the test server : Sidi Bou Zid !
Maybe the mysterious testmap on the screenshots !
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 02-07-2012, 21:07:04
Maybe Jan_Kurator was lying to us!
xD

Probably not though...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kwiot on 02-07-2012, 21:07:14
Sidi Bou Zid? Hmm... I think that I've played this map in the FH tournament, but it can be different - only name the same...  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 02-07-2012, 21:07:06
Or it could be this map:

http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?topic=16738.0

Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kwiot on 02-07-2012, 21:07:00
Indeed, I've played this map not in the tournament, only in the custom map event.

Edit:But probably devs are making their own map version....
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: ajappat on 02-07-2012, 21:07:12
Actually on the test server : Sidi Bou Zid !
Maybe the mysterious testmap on the screenshots !
You have seen a weather balloon.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 02-07-2012, 21:07:44
ok, dear conspirators, I suggest to read whole thread of that Sidi map for some leads, and remember - google is your friend! It's easy to find the church from that picture ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 02-07-2012, 21:07:15
Why must you tease us!?  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Wakain on 02-07-2012, 21:07:21
Isin't there a town in west germany called Rhine?
or "Rhineland"?
Ah, you mean that nice little industrial town the French occupied back in the 20's...
Damn, are you serious? :p Surely you can't be European?

Quote
ok, dear conspirators, I suggest to read whole thread of that Sidi map for some leads, and remember - google is your friend! It's easy to find the church from that picture
There is church in Cherbourg, another Notre Dame, that resembles the church shown somewhat. But I thought it was already said there had been a Cherbourg map in the works whitch was scrapped halfway? Oh and wasn't Sidi Bou Zid already more or less confirmed?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kwiot on 02-07-2012, 21:07:12
ok, dear conspirators, I suggest to read whole thread of that Sidi map for some leads, and remember - google is your friend! It's easy to find the church from that picture ;)

Interesting how? By typing each town in Normandy? Each French gothic church looks almost the same...  ::)

Edit:And who told that it must be in Normandy?
Edit2: Somebody mentioned Cherbourg - is this bombed in 1944 church - link (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbaye_Notre-Dame_du_V%C5%93u) But, it was bombed...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: mopskind on 02-07-2012, 22:07:13
"Rhine town"? wat

xD
Isin't there a town in west germany called Rhine?

or "Rhineland"?

Well i actually come from a town called Rheinbach or rhinebach so it is not completly wrong ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 02-07-2012, 22:07:17
Isin't there a town in west germany called Rhine?
or "Rhineland"?
Ah, you mean that nice little industrial town the French occupied back in the 20's...
Damn, are you serious? :p Surely you can't be European?

Actually I have no idea what I meant.
Well I'm half Polish!  :P

EDIT: I think the town was called Wallendorf or Vallendar.
         During "Operation Plunder"

Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 03-07-2012, 02:07:16
For those who don't feel like playing FH2:

Seems Legit.

A bit hard to click the image.
How do you post them here?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 03-07-2012, 05:07:12
About the church... I forget if someone guessed this before but the one near the Vierville Draw is the only one I can find that looks vaguely familiar (even if the bottom isn't totally right)

http://216.119.140.139.static.a2webhosting.com/main.php?g2_itemId=2200 (http://216.119.140.139.static.a2webhosting.com/main.php?g2_itemId=2200)
http://www.pointillism-in-art.org/Vierville-(Calvados)-1913.html (http://www.pointillism-in-art.org/Vierville-(Calvados)-1913.html)

also wasn't lobo's old omaha map (was mentioned somewhere) centered around that draw?

awaiting my 'dream-crush' ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Wakain on 03-07-2012, 14:07:53
Quote
Edit2: Somebody mentioned Cherbourg - is this bombed in 1944 church - link But, it was bombed...
Though the locations are identical, Cherbourg-Octeville, I don't believe we're talking about the same churches here. You mean the bombed out Abbaye- while I mean the Eglise de Notre Dame de Voeu, here, let me show thee (http://www.flickr.com/photos/22545258@N00/2353756235/lightbox/).

Quote
EDIT: I think the town was called Wallendorf or Vallendar.
         During "Operation Plunder"
You mean it reminds you of that last cod2 mission? ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 03-07-2012, 15:07:03
Yup!
Those buildings look more German to me than French.  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kwiot on 03-07-2012, 15:07:36
Quote
Edit2: Somebody mentioned Cherbourg - is this bombed in 1944 church - link But, it was bombed...
Though the locations are identical, Cherbourg-Octeville, I don't believe we're talking about the same churches here. You mean the bombed out Abbaye- while I mean the Eglise de Notre Dame de Voeu, here, let me show thee (http://www.flickr.com/photos/22545258@N00/2353756235/lightbox/).

Well, but your church has 2 towers...

Edit:This church shown by Baker is the most possible for me now... But Jan said that it is easy to find in the google, so I don't know if he meant this shithole...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 03-07-2012, 23:07:02
Any conspiracies on Foy?
Was it spotted in the past?

101st Airborne models now made.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 04-07-2012, 00:07:41
Any conspiracies on Foy?
Was it spotted in the past?

101st Airborne models now made.

I thought about it and idk if those player models even matter for that map. Since it takes place in the winter I assume the Americans would use the same winter player models as the 101st in Bastogne?

would be a great remake as that map was always fun to play in FH1
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: McCloskey on 04-07-2012, 21:07:59
natty's post in the 101st renders news:
I wonder what maps we can see these soldiers in :)

and another one from a thread concerning night maps
Pretty much everyone in the team looks forward to a Sainte-Mere-Eglise map where you jump out of a plane and fight your way through the iconic town with the church and everything. This is highly likely to happen some day :)

my conspiracy sense is tingling...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 04-07-2012, 21:07:42
On the first page it says "Ste Mere Eglise" was spotted on the server.
But that was 82nd airborne.
So I don't know anything anymore.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: McCloskey on 04-07-2012, 21:07:57
well that would require changing the division insignia, and maybe adding the us flag armband (afaik those were worn only by 82nd in france)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kwiot on 04-07-2012, 21:07:11
Any conspiracies on Foy?
Was it spotted in the past?

101st Airborne models now made.

As I remember it was spotted on the beta test server quite long time ago (I think even before patch 2.4).
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 04-07-2012, 21:07:02
Any more news on it?
Or will it be in 2.45?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kwiot on 04-07-2012, 22:07:16
Don't know...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: McCloskey on 04-07-2012, 23:07:37
well foy would be awesome, my favorite in United Offensive :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 04-07-2012, 23:07:14
well foy would be awesome, my favorite in United Offensive :)

I love that game.
Good memories...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: McCloskey on 04-07-2012, 23:07:38
well foy would be awesome, my favorite in United Offensive :)

I love that game.
Good memories...

damn man, got something in my eye... ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kwiot on 04-07-2012, 23:07:32
well foy would be awesome, my favorite in United Offensive :)

I love that game.
Good memories...

damn man, got something in my eye... ;D

Ahh... This air mission was simply epic!!! Pity that such games aren't made nowadays...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 05-07-2012, 00:07:13
Indeed, the original Call of Duty was the best!
Especially the expansion pack.
 :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 05-07-2012, 01:07:20
Some nostalgia for you guys.  :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=967lZVpDFEM

Also the BoB version:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrSWGBP0StE&hd=1

And a screen:
 :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 07-07-2012, 16:07:28
Sorry for triple post (wow),

But where is the Euro Test Server?  ???
Can't find it in the list of servers!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Thorondor123 on 07-07-2012, 17:07:57
Hidden.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LuckyOne on 07-07-2012, 18:07:17
But where is the Euro Test Server?  ???
Can't find it in the list of servers!

They are probably in the "frantic testing before release" phase and don't want to spoil it for us... It would also explain the general lack of (beta) players on public servers and the fact that even the forums are a bit dead...

Note that this is just my tin foil hat theory and might be completely false.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 07-07-2012, 18:07:19
Does this always happen?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: sheikyerbouti on 07-07-2012, 21:07:51
 maybe, maybe not.

all it really says is that we can't see the Fh2 dev server.


 If you want real conspiracy, check to see how many Beta-testers and Dev's are on these forums when they are supposed to have testing sessions. It used to be on Sunday (noon'ish CET) and Tuesday (later in the afternoon/ evening).

That's your proof of development. Ideally, a release before everyone goes back to school but not so much pressure that the team cannot enjoy their summertime. Some of us live in countries where the good weather needs to soaked up before it gets shitty again.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 07-07-2012, 23:07:25
If you want real conspiracy, check to see how many Beta-testers and Dev's are on these forums when they are supposed to have testing sessions. It used to be on Sunday (noon'ish CET) and Tuesday (later in the afternoon/ evening).
Even if you would have gotten the days right, it wouldn't work ;) I am always logged in, so I am "always here".  :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Lightning on 07-07-2012, 23:07:32
If you want real conspiracy, check to see how many Beta-testers and Dev's are on these forums when they are supposed to have testing sessions. It used to be on Sunday (noon'ish CET) and Tuesday (later in the afternoon/ evening).
Testing has been Thursday and Sunday evening (UTC) since 2.0 alpha testing.  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: sheikyerbouti on 08-07-2012, 00:07:48
 I stand corrected.

 although I thought Lainer had told me it was on Tuesday. whatever, No skin off my back
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Wulfburk on 08-07-2012, 00:07:46
Either way just spotted the euro test server on purple heat lane with 2 players, so it is back
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 08-07-2012, 03:07:24
Either way just spotted the euro test server on purple heat lane with 2 players, so it is back
(http://s2.hubimg.com/u/4173273_f520.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 08-07-2012, 03:07:05
Wut?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TASSER on 08-07-2012, 07:07:27
Slayer, I love it.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 09-07-2012, 22:07:04
Sidi Bou Zid is being played again.
With 13 other guys. ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 10-07-2012, 00:07:49
I guess now we know why.  ;D

I really hoped for Foy this patch
but oh well! Maybe next one!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 10-07-2012, 00:07:35
Sidi Bou Zid is being played again.
With 13 other guys. ;D

probably filming for the now upcoming 2.45 trailer ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: titsmcgee852 on 16-07-2012, 04:07:05
Pegasus is mentioned in the changelog, " * Pegasus first backup , far from betatest.  Preventing HD crash..... (otolikos)". Perhaps we might see it in the official release one day.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TASSER on 16-07-2012, 11:07:55
Where'd you read that tits? Is there a more complete changelog somewhere?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: titsmcgee852 on 16-07-2012, 12:07:22
Yep, it's just in the FH2 mod folder (no subfolders).
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Thorondor123 on 16-07-2012, 12:07:02
Yep, it's just in the FH2 mod folder (no subfolders).
There should be a lot of stuff... Strange how no one has found it yet :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Steel_Lion_FIN on 16-07-2012, 12:07:30
I spy in the complete changelog:

* Added first iteration of Russian apartments.  (gurdy)
* Couple soviet snipers (kev4000)
* Correct penetrations on 45mm Russians (kev4000) (45mm antitank/tank guns)
* T26 finnish (kev4000)  ;D
* Bt7 finalized (kev4000)
* Is2 export finished (kev4000)
* Kv1s finishing (kev4000)
* Katjusha lods (kev4000)
* Juno Beach *Ultra WIP* (natty)
* Hs129 (toddel)
* Ferdinand_501_sheme_by_Hirsch (kraetzer) (Ferdinand TD?)
* Winter m4a4 tracks (kev4000) (Indicates British winter maps or Lend-Lease Soviet Shermans)
* Russian NCO and fix hands (kev4000)
* Add RPG43 (kev4000) (Soviet AT nade)
* Panzerjager Tiger P Elefant 88mm Pak 43 L71 SdKfz 184 SturmGeschutz Ferdinand4 (kev4000)
* Su 76m update (kev4000)
* StuG 40 Fin Box (kraetzer)  ;D

And many, many, many more russian and french! tanks
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: titsmcgee852 on 16-07-2012, 13:07:10
Omgomgomgomg. I didn't look hard enough it seems!

Looks like we might see this in the future http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elefant :)

EDIT: Finally some German attack/bomber http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henschel_Hs_129
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: hyperanthropos on 16-07-2012, 13:07:18
Finish winterwar fuck yeah fuck yeah, I love you devs :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 16-07-2012, 14:07:37
Must check this after I get home from work.

But Hs-129, can we haz B-3 subvariant plox? A flying PaK40 would come in handy knock-knocking the heavier Soviet tanks. WHERE IS YOUR STALIN NOW?

Re the "501", it's probably the vehicle number of the Ferninand of schwere Panzerjäger Abteilung 654, immobilized (and subsequently photographed) at Ponyri during Battle of Kursk. Incidentally, this also tells that there is a non-Prokhorovka map of the battle in the works, probably indeed centered around Ponyri, "the little Stalingrad".
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: titsmcgee852 on 16-07-2012, 14:07:24
That... is some of the best detective work I've seen for a while  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Thorondor123 on 16-07-2012, 14:07:12
Finish winterwar fuck yeah fuck yeah, I love you devs :D
Remember, they are concentrating in battles around 43-44. Winter war is not likely ^^
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 16-07-2012, 14:07:50
Damn,

More stuff to conspire about!  :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 16-07-2012, 18:07:38
  * Aberdeen tank K.O.T.H. (natty)
And they deprived us of this besides any Aberdeen? RAEG RAEG RAEG

  * Ramelle exploit path from crossroads to bridge and water along the railroad fixed (US side). (otolikos)
Sneaky devs. This was too fun to use.

  * Horsa static (nissi)
Pegasus alright.

  * Mont Ormel WIP *backup* (natty)
This just in: spontaneous orgasms in all over Poland. Polandball can into FH2!

  * Ignore French and Russian content (kev4000)
Tut tut.

  * Brest size reduction.  (remdul)
Huh huh. Huh huh. He said Brest. -Shut up, Butt-Head!

  * Battle At Puffendorf (kev4000)
Old new to followers of test server.

  * Update swordfish code (kev4000)
Why update if no naval battles, hmmmm?
 * Sturmboot export by stubbfan (kev4000)
Hmmm indeeed.

  * Bloch 152 (sethsoldier)
  * Somua S35 (kev4000)
Oui!

  * T20 (kraetzer)
  * Po2 export by Stubbfan (kev4000)
Da!

  * Fiat 508 C.M. Sicily/Europe (kraetzer)
No Italian front, amirite?

What happened to the rumoured "opening" of play area in SW corner of Falaise, btw?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 16-07-2012, 21:07:48
  * Mont Ormel WIP *backup* (natty)
This just in: spontaneous orgasms in all over Poland. Polandball can into FH2!

Yay Poland!
(Hill 262)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: ajappat on 16-07-2012, 21:07:08
What happened to the rumoured "opening" of play area in SW corner of Falaise, btw?
It never was rumoured. It was suggestion made by someone.

Then Natty (I think) said that it was open on some beta version but didn't make it to public.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: hyperanthropos on 16-07-2012, 21:07:12
Naval battle!? Probably still no really big shipts put mayba an attack by Sturmboote at static british carriers!? And on thoses carriers you might find the swordfish.

I dont remember the name of The FH1 map but there was one on which you had to destroy a column of british ships including multiple carriers by stormboote, Ju 88 (and other planes) and Submarines i think.
the setting was at nigth and somewhere at the norwegian cost iirc. You knows the name? Awesome map!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 16-07-2012, 21:07:17
Naval battle!? Probably still no really big shipts put mayba an attack by Sturmboote at static british carriers!? And on thoses carriers you might find the swordfish.

I dont remember the name of The FH1 map but there was one on which you had to destroy a column of british ships including multiple carriers by stormboote, Ju 88 (and other planes) and Submarines i think.
the setting was at nigth and somewhere at the norwegian cost iirc. You knows the name? Awesome map!

I think it was FHSW
the map "Arctic Convoy" or something.

Took place of the PQ19 battle in 1941.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 17-07-2012, 03:07:44
Update first post:  :)

Maps found in changelog or test server:
-Ste Mere Eglise
-Gold Beach
-Juno Beach*
-Puffendorf
-Foy
-Pegasus Bridge
-Mount Ormel (Hill 262)
-Kuuterselkä
-Crimea 1944

Vehicles found in changelog ot news posts:
-ZiS-3
-sIG 33
-BA64
-KV1s
-SU152
-T26 (Soviet/Finnish)
-Bt7
-Is2
-Katyusha
-Hs129
-Fernindad (Elefant)
-M4a4
-Su 76m
-Stug40 (Finnish)
-T20
-Fiat 508
-Bloch 152
-Somua S35

More to Come...


This one is for you devs  ;):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQRIOKvR2WM
(You have nowhere to run)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: ww2fighter20 on 17-07-2012, 10:07:59
Here are some that I found in the gamelogic.  ;)

Some where mentioned already.

- b1bis
- bf109g2
- c47
- c47_spawn
- c47_spawn_flyover
- cromwell_polish
- h39
- ju87g1
- junkers_f13     ???
- katjusha_bm13
- m10_achilles_iic_polish
- m10_polish
- m30_122mm
- p38_lightning
- p38_r_lightning
- polikarpov_po2
- sa34_25mm
- sa34_25mm_static
- sherman_v_polish
- somuas35
- stug40_g_fi
- stug40_g_fi_late
- t26
- t34_76_m43
- t34_76_m43_camo
- t34_85_early
- t34_85_late
- tiger_p_early

After looking in the editor I saw that the sturmboat is the same as the one in fh1 (the larger vessel from Artic Convoy is called Schnellboot) so this is most likely going to be used on lakes in future russian maps not for naval maps.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 17-07-2012, 11:07:48
- p38_lightning
- p38_r_lightning
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Lightning on 17-07-2012, 11:07:04
Don't come premature, it's just a direct FH1 port. I doubt it'll ever be used.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 17-07-2012, 12:07:53
I doubt it'll ever be used.
Nice try. We all remember what happened with Battle of Keren.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Thorondor123 on 17-07-2012, 12:07:00
- p38_lightning
- p38_r_lightning
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
This thing was on spring wind... I was cool but a bit FH1.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 17-07-2012, 14:07:27
Updated list: :)

Maps found in changelog or test server:
-Stonne (Kev's server)
-Prokhorovka
-Crimea 1944
-Kuuterselkä
-Pegasus Bridge
-Ste Mère Église
-Gold Beach
-Juno Beach
-Mount Ormel (Hill 262)
-Puffendorf
-Stavelot
-Foy
-Operation Nordwind 1945


Vehicles found in changelog or news posts:
-ZiS-3
-sIG-33
-BA64
-T34/76
-T34/85 (early)
-T34/85 (Late)
-KV1s
-SU152
-T26 (Soviet/Finnish)
-Bt7
-Is2
-Katyusha
-Hs129
-Polikarpov Po2
-P38 Lightning
-C47
-Junkers 87G1
-Junkers F13
-Bf109G2
-Fernindad
-Elefant
-M4a4
-SU76m
-Stug40 (Finnish)
-Sturmboat
-T20
-M26 Pershing
-Bloch 152
-sa34
-Panhard 178
-Hotchkiss H35
-Somua S35
-Char B1 bis
-Polish Bedford
-Polish M3a1 halftrack
-Polish Hellcat
-Polish M5a1 Stuart
-Polish Sherman V
-Polish M10 Achilles IIc
-Polish Cromwell

Anything else?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: CB-Corrado on 17-07-2012, 20:07:55
Updated list  :):

Maps found in changelog or test server:
-Ste Mere Eglise
-Gold Beach
-Juno Beach*
-Puffendorf
-Foy
-Operation Nordwind
-Pegasus Bridge
-Mount Ormel (Hill 262)
-Kuuterselkä
-Crimea 1944
-Stonne (Kev's server)

Vehicles found in changelog ot news posts:
-ZiS-3
-sIG 33
-BA64
-T34/76
-T34/85 (early)
-T34/85 (Late)
-KV1s
-SU152
-T26 (Soviet/Finnish)
-Bt7
-Is2
-Katyusha
-Hs129
-Polikarpov Po2
-P38 Lightning
-C47
-H39
-Junkers 87G1
-Junkers F13
-Bf109G2
-Fernindad
-Elefant
-M4a4
-Su 76m
-Stug40 (Finnish)
-Sturmboat
-T20
-M26 Pershing
-Fiat 508
-Bloch 152
-sa34
-Char B1 bis
-Somua S35
-Polish Sherman V
-Polish M10 Achilles IIc
-Polish Cromwell

Anything else?

Sorry for long post..  ;)

Means the list that this content sooner or later will be partr of the game? Could already verivy it for past releases?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 17-07-2012, 20:07:49
Just means that at some point we were testing maps with those names.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hjaldrgud on 17-07-2012, 20:07:40
Spaghetti everywhere out of my pockets
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Zoologic on 18-07-2012, 19:07:40
Looks like you guys are doing the eastern front in random manner... unlike how we go through FH2 to FH2.45? The Western Front especially, when we saw the theatre progressing from Normandy and then to Battle of the Bulge.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 18-07-2012, 19:07:33
How do you mean, random manner?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LuckyOne on 18-07-2012, 19:07:18
How do you mean, random manner?

He probably means that you're doing late eastern front and then (hopefully sooner than later) early eastern front and the Winter war...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Zoologic on 18-07-2012, 19:07:10
Yeah, I mean not in some geographical order (Crimean, then Caucasus, then Baltic, then road to Moscow) or historical order (1944, 1942, 1941-and so on).
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ciupita on 18-07-2012, 20:07:43
How do you mean, random manner?

He probably means that you're doing late eastern front and then (hopefully sooner than later) early eastern front and the Winter war...

Devs want the Russians to win. Bad nazies aren't supposed to win (they can tho, but historically they didn't in those battles).
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 18-07-2012, 21:07:21
Anymore maps/vehicles I missed to add to the list? 
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TuscanGangster on 18-07-2012, 21:07:56
Anymore maps/vehicles I missed to add to the list?
Mower with rocket launcher
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: azreal on 18-07-2012, 21:07:43
Ste. Mere Eglise is a lie!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 18-07-2012, 22:07:04
Ste. Mere Eglise is a lie!

You can't fool us!  ;)


Also can someone update first post this is info?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Zoologic on 19-07-2012, 04:07:15
How do you mean, random manner?

He probably means that you're doing late eastern front and then (hopefully sooner than later) early eastern front and the Winter war...

Devs want the Russians to win. Bad nazies aren't supposed to win (they can tho, but historically they didn't in those battles).

So we only allow Rommel to win here? (Since it includes Tobruk and some Nutzee winning NA maps)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 20-07-2012, 23:07:14
That test server just keeps hiding doesn't it?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kubador on 21-07-2012, 02:07:35
We're on break...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 21-07-2012, 03:07:00
The big shots seem to think that this close after release their beta testing ressources are better spend populating public servers.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: sheikyerbouti on 21-07-2012, 07:07:26
 It is always fun to frag the crap out of the devs.   

Nuff said,
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 28-07-2012, 18:07:50
(http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/1638/futureweaponsfh2.jpg)

From:
http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?topic=13284.765


Are these weapons more or else
confirmed to be in the mod?  :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 28-07-2012, 18:07:00
Yes, these are the weapon icons for weapons that are used in testing.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TASSER on 28-07-2012, 18:07:49
Nice find pizzaman!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 01-08-2012, 23:08:19
Also,
will these other models be used:

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/images/news/172%20-%20finlandatwar.jpg)

Or are they outdated?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Steel_Lion_FIN on 02-08-2012, 01:08:18
IIRC the Boys AT-rifle was donated at the same time when those models were, it was just upgraded to suit FH2 standards.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 02-08-2012, 08:08:08
Those wont be used.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 02-08-2012, 14:08:11
But isn't that the same Suomi M31 from the picture above?
Or are they different models?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Thorondor123 on 02-08-2012, 14:08:32
It's not the same.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 02-08-2012, 15:08:52
Its Suomi SJR model, the one from FaW is Model 1. Also, SJR was made by Seth Soldier.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: THeTA0123 on 06-08-2012, 21:08:01
did you knew

that the M1917 enfield actually has a 6 round magazine?


CONSPIRACY IN FH2 I TELL YOU
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: DaWorg! on 09-08-2012, 18:08:33
Operation Nordwind 1945 spotted on test server
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TuscanGangster on 09-08-2012, 18:08:38
Sorry for dear FH2 developers... But googled 'Operation Nordwind' and found this.

http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/images/news/15%20-%20nordwind_minimap.jpg

 :-X
It certainly is a private page as it says that you have no permission to browse it.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Thorondor123 on 09-08-2012, 18:08:31
Sorry for dear FH2 developers... But googled 'Operation Nordwind' and found this.

http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/images/news/15%20-%20nordwind_minimap.jpg

 :-X
Grats, you found the original FH map from 2005.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 09-08-2012, 18:08:11
LOL yeah you really found the fh1 section of the official website there, sneaky guy.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TuscanGangster on 09-08-2012, 18:08:49
Oh my god. ;D
Never played that map.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 09-08-2012, 22:08:33
Test map "C" on test server.

I thought there was only test map A and B?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Gurdy on 09-08-2012, 22:08:24
There are always things to test!  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 09-08-2012, 22:08:19
And yet another success for the conspiracies thread: first they find out about a FH1 map and then they notice Testmap A, B and C!  :P  :D

Sorry, I'm in that mood again ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Eat Uranium on 09-08-2012, 22:08:57
FYI, Pre-2.45, Sidi Bou Zid was Testmap A and St. Vith was Testmap B.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: RAnDOOm on 09-08-2012, 23:08:30
I found this also some time ago.

(http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/606/fhmap.jpg)

PS: Keep in mind the words "some time ago".
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 09-08-2012, 23:08:05
Pacific theatre this early!  :o

(Sarcasm)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 09-08-2012, 23:08:51
OMAHA BEACH CONFIRMED!!!!!!!!

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshots/Omaha%20Beach%20Charlie%20Sector/charlie_minimap.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LuckyOne on 09-08-2012, 23:08:26
I found this also some time ago.

PS: Keep in mind the words "some time ago".

Lemme guess F|H is making a remake of Aleutian Islands... And it's gonna be featured in the next campaign?  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 09-08-2012, 23:08:59
We are so mean.  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: RAnDOOm on 09-08-2012, 23:08:26
OMAHA BEACH CONFIRMED!!!!!!!!

Fail.... that is just the old FH1 map.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 09-08-2012, 23:08:04
You are such a party pooper DOOm.  >:(
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: RAnDOOm on 09-08-2012, 23:08:03
You are such a party pooper DOOm.  >:(

I like to poop, by my conspiracy still stands....

I found this also some time ago.

(http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/606/fhmap.jpg)

PS: Keep in mind the words "some time ago".
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pureperversions on 10-08-2012, 00:08:55
they have found out about our secret dr evil map quick to the space rocket!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TuscanGangster on 10-08-2012, 01:08:44
OMAHA BEACH CONFIRMED!!!!!!!!

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshots/Omaha%20Beach%20Charlie%20Sector/charlie_minimap.jpg)
Hahahaha can't stop laughing...

Nope. I'm an human not a gaming machine, can commit mistakes. ;)
Wondering if devs are trying to make the Kerch landings as I can't think of something else around Crimea.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 10-08-2012, 03:08:25
mfw people still place south/whatever compass direction at the top of the map because they think it's professional because a fellow grognard on teh interwebz told so;

mfw people only think of Crimea 1944/Kerch/Vuosalmi/other too obvious choices when I made a very detailed suggestion met with positive respone about combining riverborne invasion AND paradrop for Eastern Front, namely the Lower Dnieper Offensive based on 110% accurate historical IT ARE FACT CUZ IT SAYS SO IN WIKIPEDIA (also shamelessly plagiarizing an ancient strategy game called Panzer Battles)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 10-08-2012, 05:08:27
 Did the Russians have any para-drop operations in WW2?


Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Alakazou on 10-08-2012, 05:08:03
IIRC Yeah, why ?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: DaWorg! on 10-08-2012, 07:08:30
And yet another success for the conspiracies thread: first they find out about a FH1 map and then they notice Testmap A, B and C!  :P  :D

Sorry, I'm in that mood again ;)

FH1 map that was on the FH2 test server!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LtnGeorge on 10-08-2012, 10:08:51
I found this also some time ago.

PS: Keep in mind the words "some time ago".

Lemme guess F|H is making a remake of Aleutian Islands... And it's gonna be featured in the next campaign?  ;)

Actually World at War did that already some time ago ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Smiles on 10-08-2012, 12:08:04
Moaaaarrr conspiracies!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LuckyOne on 10-08-2012, 12:08:40
Moaaaarrr conspiracies!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4w6V-PbPKM
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 10-08-2012, 14:08:10
And yet another success for the conspiracies thread: first they find out about a FH1 map and then they notice Testmap A, B and C!  :P  :D

Sorry, I'm in that mood again ;)

FH1 map that was on the FH2 test server!
Oh, you can eat your heart out on this one I guess  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 10-08-2012, 21:08:47
Why is the Operation Aberdeen page still here?
Wasn't it removed?

LINK: http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/fh2_maps.php?map=9
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: McCloskey on 10-08-2012, 21:08:02
no need to remove the page, when you can just remove it from the list and put it back in when the map is brought up to standards (I presume, somewhere far, far in the future)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 10-08-2012, 22:08:57
 I miss Op. Aberdeen :'( Why did everyone hate it? It even had a boxing cage easter egg!!!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 10-08-2012, 22:08:23
I miss Op. Aberdeen :'( Why did everyone hate it? It even had a boxing cage easter egg!!!
because it looked ugly as hell and was unplayable
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 11-08-2012, 00:08:39
I miss Op. Aberdeen :'( Why did everyone hate it? It even had a boxing cage easter egg!!!
because it looked ugly as hell and was unplayable
Not unplayable, but pretty imbalanced.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: THeTA0123 on 11-08-2012, 00:08:46
winning on operation aberdeen with axis
man that was like
THE
biggest achievement you could get on FH2.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Smiles on 11-08-2012, 02:08:51
I liked the map...  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Surfbird on 11-08-2012, 03:08:13
Me too! Because it was played so rarely and I loved camping with my Grant :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Cheesus Krighst on 11-08-2012, 03:08:31
I think the aberdeen map needs to be expanded more, since (if it gets added ever again) the FOV has been increased tanks would be able to shoot cross map.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Miklas on 11-08-2012, 08:08:09
I also liked Aberdeen. I used to drive my PII to the east of the village in the center where all the knocked out tanks are. There I would park and pretend to be a knocked out tank and when those Grants came rolling by I charged them in the side from close distance and finished them of by shooting Pzg40 at the side doors.  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 11-08-2012, 15:08:09
I haven't really played Aberdeen that much,
could someone tell me how it was unbalanced?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 11-08-2012, 15:08:41
The British heavy tanks could hardly be stopped by the axis Panzers, so almost always allied won this map.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: CptdeS35 on 11-08-2012, 15:08:49
and also you got the infantry job :
" spawn! walk walk walk ...oh you're dead. spawn ! walk walk walk...oh you're dead. I don't think you gonna reach a flag."

this is the truck version :

"spawn ! walk, get in, drive...oh you've been tk/killed."
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 11-08-2012, 15:08:08
This is nonsense!  ;D
Is this really true?

When I played that map,
I destroyed every allied armour to spot. (well died sometimes)
Including the Matilda.

Was it because there was no planes?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 11-08-2012, 16:08:27
I bet you played it only on coop then
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 11-08-2012, 16:08:56
Was this the only non-Axis bias map?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: THeTA0123 on 11-08-2012, 16:08:39
aberdeen was the biggest allied killwhore fest map of the mod


winning as the axis on that map was a rarity
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 11-08-2012, 16:08:31
I also liked Aberdeen. I used to drive my PII to the east of the village in the center where all the knocked out tanks are. There I would park and pretend to be a knocked out tank and when those Grants came rolling by I charged them in the side from close distance and finished them of by shooting Pzg40 at the side doors.  ;D
nice tactic!  :) might use it if I start using tanks more often...

Was it because there was no planes?

well, there are scout planes but they cant do anything offensive so....  :-\
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 11-08-2012, 16:08:24
Hahah yeah I once managed to fool a Panther by turning my turret sideways and point the barrel downwards, then drove up against some pile of rubble... I took that as an experiment because I wanted to see what would happen. I jumped into the hull MG and pointed the sights at a gap in the hedgerow from where the enemy tanks would come through eventually.

Then the Panther emerged through the gap. He saw me in the midst of the ruins next to a wrecked Panther static... I saw him point at me and I was certain he wasnt fooled. He didnt fire, instead he started moving towards me and then took a left turn, exposing his right side to me. At that moment I jumped into the 1st seat, lifted my gun, turned the turret and started taking aim. By the time I had my sights on his side, the gun was ready and I fired.

The Panther blew up and a moment later the driver told me that he was using the freelook and noticed that my engine deck started to smoke and my turret started turning, he was literally shitting himself but was too slow to turn his turret. Hahaa, funny moments.

Too bad that tactic doesnt work every time. :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 11-08-2012, 17:08:21
A variant on that tactic is the "this Bren carrier/APC is empty" tactic, where you switch to seat 4 or something like that and duck down. I have survived several infantry onlsaughts like that, because they simply walked by me.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Lightning on 11-08-2012, 20:08:45
Until someone looks at their minimap and doesn't see the vehicle icon...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: ajappat on 11-08-2012, 21:08:07
That still works quite often.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: DaWorg! on 12-08-2012, 06:08:16
A variant on that tactic is the "this Bren carrier/APC is empty" tactic, where you switch to seat 4 or something like that and duck down. I have survived several infantry onlsaughts like that, because they simply walked by me.

Worked for me too, i was even throwing grenades from there without being detected for a while  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: titsmcgee852 on 15-08-2012, 14:08:28
So, I just discovered this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp_jp_V0nWM
Maybe it will make it into the official release, they were used extensively in NA after all...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Lightning on 15-08-2012, 14:08:41
That's 5 years old...  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: titsmcgee852 on 15-08-2012, 15:08:03
I still have my hopes...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: CHRISTIEFRONTDRIVE on 15-08-2012, 19:08:10
My APC tactic is to just bail it (so it's empty on the map), but hide under the tracks to shoot people. Only works with the American/British APCs, but at least you can be outside the Purple Heart Box when you earn one :D. Really works quite well, if people think you're near the APC at all they think you're behind it, and the tracks work well at deflecting bullets. You're quite boned if someone riflenades you though.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: THeTA0123 on 15-08-2012, 21:08:33
My APC tactic is to just bail it (so it's empty on the map), but hide under the tracks to shoot people. Only works with the American/British APCs, but at least you can be outside the Purple Heart Box when you earn one :D. Really works quite well, if people think you're near the APC at all they think you're behind it, and the tracks work well at deflecting bullets. You're quite boned if someone riflenades you though.
Sticking in the 3rd seat on a brencarrier, acting vewwwyyy quiet has saved my ass yesterday on Keren  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 15-08-2012, 22:08:17
Sorted List:  :)
================

Finland:
-T26
-T50
-Stug40
-Sturmboat

France:
-sa34
-Bloch 152
-Panhard 178
-Hotchkiss H35
-Somua S35
-Char B1 Bis

Germany:
-sIG33
-BF109G2
-Junkers 87G1
-Junkers F13
-Marder III ausf M
-Ferdinand
-Elefant(?)

Polish Forces in the West:
-Bedford
-M3a1 Halftrack
-M5a1 Stuart
-Cromwell
-Sherman V
-Hellcat(?)
-M10 Achilles IIc

Soviet Union:
-ZiS3
-Polikarpov Po2
-BA64
-Katyusha
-T26
-T34/76
-T34/85 early
-T34/85 late
-KV1s
-BT7
-SU76m
-SU152
-Is2

United States:
-C47
-P38 Lightning
-M4a4
-T20(?)
-M26 Pershing


Was there anything else in the changelog?  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: [F|H]Taz18 on 16-08-2012, 02:08:15
-Elefant
-Fernindad
-Tiger ausf P

These are all essentially the same vehicle...  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Surfbird on 16-08-2012, 02:08:26
-P38 Lightning

I hope this dream comes true <3
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 16-08-2012, 05:08:09
-P38 Lightning

I checked that out in game and I'm pretty sure it's from FH1. The skin is the exact same and it certainly doesnt seem ready yet. There's also a sidi bou zid specific skin for it iirc
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Paythoss on 16-08-2012, 07:08:15
 ::)
Poland
Hellcat

WTF ? :o
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Steel_Lion_FIN on 16-08-2012, 08:08:48
-Elefant
-Fernindad
-Tiger ausf P

These are all essentially the same vehicle...  :P

Wrong. Tiger P is a rival to the Henschel design that became famous as the Tiger we know. After prototype phase it was rejected, but some 90?ish hulls were already complete. So they built TDs out of them, known as both Ferdinand and Elefant.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: THeTA0123 on 16-08-2012, 09:08:13
5 tiger P"s where build. These had 200mm frontal hull armour and 140mm turret armour. 4 got rebuild, one served as a command tank
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: KnowYourEnemy123 on 16-08-2012, 11:08:22
What's going on here ? What is that list ? I'm so confused !
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Steel_Lion_FIN on 16-08-2012, 14:08:46
It's a list of things mentioned in the changelog, sort of behind the scenes material. The o nes that have been crossed over are stuff that have been officially brought to public via news updates.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 16-08-2012, 15:08:59
::)
Poland
Hellcat

WTF ? :o

The Polish forces in the west used alot of British and
American material.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: hyperanthropos on 16-08-2012, 15:08:16
One thing I always wondered about is the Stug 40, I have seen pictures describing a Stug as a Stug 40 which looked just like a Stug III to me.
Whats the difference?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 16-08-2012, 15:08:51
Stug IV uses the Panzer IV chasis.
Stug 40/III uses the Panzer III chasis.

Take a look:
(http://militarymodels.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/Panzer-III-in-grey.jpg)

(http://www.cyber-hobby.com/shop/images/modelkits/6320.jpg)

Same chasis.
Not much difference between the 40 and III.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: hyperanthropos on 16-08-2012, 15:08:49
Yes I know of the different chassis. But is there any difference between a Stug III and a Stug 40 or are this only different names?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Lightning on 16-08-2012, 15:08:00
StuGs on the panzer III chassis were initially called StuG 40s, because of the PaK40 gun (technically StuK 40) they used (at least the later versions F and G), but when the StuGs based on the panzer IV chassis went in production, they changed the name of the StuG 40 to the StuG III to avoid confusion.

So it's a difference in name only.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 16-08-2012, 15:08:55
Oh, my bad.  :-[
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Thorondor123 on 16-08-2012, 15:08:39
Oh, my bad.  :-[
You were completely correct on your own point though.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Paythoss on 16-08-2012, 15:08:03
::)
Poland
Hellcat

WTF ? :o

The Polish forces in the west used alot of British and
American material.
Nope ... theres was not a single M18 GMC in Polish Army ... only M10 GMC Wolverine and Achilles 17pdr SPG .
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Lightning on 16-08-2012, 15:08:09
Oh, my bad.  :-[
You were completely correct on your own point though.
Only after the edit.  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 16-08-2012, 16:08:22
Nope ... theres was not a single M18 GMC in Polish Army ... only M10 GMC Wolverine and Achilles 17pdr SPG .

Don't look at me!
It was included in the 2.26 changelog!

Relevant Link: http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?topic=5505.30
(Conspiracies threat mk I)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: [F|H]Taz18 on 16-08-2012, 19:08:16
-Elefant
-Fernindad
-Tiger ausf P

These are all essentially the same vehicle...  :P

Wrong. Tiger P is a rival to the Henschel design that became famous as the Tiger we know. After prototype phase it was rejected, but some 90?ish hulls were already complete. So they built TDs out of them, known as both Ferdinand and Elefant.

And? I'm still right!

If its in the changelog it would be Panzerjäger Tiger (P), FH2 doesn't deal in prototypes, meaning they are essentially the same vehicle.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 16-08-2012, 20:08:17
Fixed....
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 17-08-2012, 01:08:16
Wtf?!  :o

Test server is running
Test map F !?

How many maps are coming next patch?!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Steel_Lion_FIN on 17-08-2012, 08:08:43
F is the sixth letter in the alphabet. However the devs have said somewhere that Sidi bou Zid was testmap A and St. Vith was Tesy Map B at some point. Latest patch brought us three maps, A B and C. So I'd say there's at least three maps. Though the F could be there just for trollings sake. Or F for Foy..
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 17-08-2012, 21:08:44
Why must the devs troll us?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: McCloskey on 17-08-2012, 21:08:46
Why do you think they are trolling? They need to name the maps somehow and giving the map its real name would only create buttload of silly conspiracies (such as the "omaha" test map).
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 17-08-2012, 21:08:17
Isn't this what the thread is for?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Steel_Lion_FIN on 17-08-2012, 21:08:08
Because they know this thread exists (duh) and they love to see us chasing our own tails.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 19-08-2012, 19:08:50
From what I have seen, we have:

-Test Map A
-Test Map B
-Test Map C
-Test Map E
-Test Map F

What happened to test map D?  ???

Will the next patch feature 6 maps?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 19-08-2012, 19:08:34
Did Testmap A B and C turn up after 2.45 release? After all, they were St Vith, Keren and Sidi
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 21-08-2012, 00:08:08
Ok,
So A-F test maps = 6 maps.

And so far we have 12 here:
-Stonne
-Prokhorovka
-Crimea 1944
-Kuuterselka
-Pegasus Bridge
-Ste Mere Eglise
-Gold beach
-Juno beach
-Mount Ormel
-Puffendorf
-Foy
-Operation Nordwind 1945

And ruskies arn't arriving next patch so:
-Stonne
-Prokhorovka
-Crimea 1944
-Kuuterselka
-Pegasus Bridge
-Ste Mere Eglise
-Gold beach
-Juno beach
-Mount Ormel
-Puffendorf
-Foy
-Operation Nordwind 1945

Now down to 8 maps,
my bets are everything except the 2 beaches.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: CologneSky on 21-08-2012, 00:08:54

And ruskies arn't arriving next patch so:

says who exactly?!?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 21-08-2012, 00:08:11
Do you have any info that they are?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: ajappat on 21-08-2012, 00:08:56
I like this thread.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TASSER on 21-08-2012, 00:08:06
Official word (via official news update) is this:

"In other news, we are still working hard to get the Eastern Front ready, and you should expect to see some more Soviet and German equipment from that theatre in the news. But we might also have a few other surprises before the Eastern Front patch. Keep a look out for some new scenarios and content in our current theatres."


And ruskies arn't arriving next patch so:
Not necessarily correct.

says who exactly?!?
Devs, kinda. But I think you and I were both saying the same thing.

Do you have any info that they are?
Read the news updates.

I like this thread.
Must be real fun to watch us fall over ourselves trying to figure things out :)

I will say very good job with trying to determine the test maps pizzzaman :) A quite scientific approach to the ongoing investigation.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 21-08-2012, 01:08:44
What the hell
I give up.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 21-08-2012, 09:08:59
 Wow, you guys are really reaching here.....


...but this is a conspiracy thread so let it fly.....


 I believe Natty has been secretly working on a Berlin Map allowing the allies to land with Waco Gliders on top of the Reichstag.....

 :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Smiles on 21-08-2012, 14:08:39
Keep them coming ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ciupita on 21-08-2012, 14:08:12
Wow, you guys are really reaching here.....


...but this is a conspiracy thread so let it fly.....


 I believe Natty has been secretly working on a Berlin Map allowing the allies to land with Waco Gliders on top of the Reichstag.....

 :P

....also all Germans spawn with hipfireable MG42s which are more accurate than sniperrifles when fired from the hip....
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: NTH on 21-08-2012, 21:08:58
Wow, you guys are really reaching here.....


...but this is a conspiracy thread so let it fly.....


 I believe Natty has been secretly working on a Berlin Map allowing the allies to land with Waco Gliders on top of the Reichstag.....[/size

 :P

....also all Germans spawn with hipfireable MG42s which are more accurate than sniperrifles when fired from the hip....

Hahaha what is next hip firing AT rifles .. lol.
I hope there is a map that consist of a flashback a WWII soldier has of his combat time in WWI. The map would be called the Tears of the Somme.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: THeTA0123 on 21-08-2012, 21:08:48
Wow, you guys are really reaching here.....


...but this is a conspiracy thread so let it fly.....


 I believe Natty has been secretly working on a Berlin Map allowing the allies to land with Waco Gliders on top of the Reichstag.....

 :P

....also all Germans spawn with hipfireable MG42s which are more accurate than sniperrifles when fired from the hip....
well frak that and i suggested for spawnable drillings but NOOO...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TASSER on 21-08-2012, 22:08:32
Here's something conspiracy-worthy. Just remembered this from back in June:

Now here's a good thought. I know the AVRE was designed to destroy fortifications, but it would be so awesome to have that monster for close infantry support. I feel it would be pretty balanced too. Slow, slow reload time, but kickass firepower and armor.

dont worry, i have better plans for that tank  8)

I know there's been some "Juno/Sword/Gold (can't remember which) Walls" in the change logs as statics. Mounting evidence for a Canadian/British beach map?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 23-08-2012, 23:08:05
Battle_of_Stonne_1940 on test server?



WUT
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 23-08-2012, 23:08:51
Battle_of_Stonne_1940 on test server?



WUT

I have a good feeling about this  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Thorondor123 on 24-08-2012, 00:08:34
Oops.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: CptdeS35 on 24-08-2012, 00:08:16
Anyone eard about Narvik and La Horgne ? strange...  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Alakazou on 24-08-2012, 00:08:08
Battle_of_Stonne_1940 on test server?



WUT

I have a good feeling about this  ;D

You should'nt, the dev love messing with you :) and Thorondor love that too :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 24-08-2012, 12:08:46
Battle_of_Stonne_1940 on test server?
brb, gone to pharmacy to stock up on vaseline
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Eat Uranium on 24-08-2012, 15:08:44
A wise choice Kelmola, that way it won't hurt so much when the dreamcrusher comes a knocking.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 24-08-2012, 16:08:20
A wise choice Kelmola, that way it won't hurt so much when the dreamcrusher comes a knocking.

The good feelings I had are fading...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TASSER on 24-08-2012, 22:08:22
A wise choice Kelmola, that way it won't hurt so much when the dreamcrusher comes a knocking.

HAHAHAHA

Point, EU!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 24-08-2012, 22:08:22
The good feelings I had are fading...

Don't let a "little" dreamcrusher crush your dreams.
Have faith comrade.
Have faith-
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: CptdeS35 on 24-08-2012, 22:08:45
The good feelings I had are fading...

Don't let a "little" dreamcrusher crush your dreams.
Have faith comrade.
Have faith-

tell that to the french hope guys who made the first maps...you're not gonna be welcomed imo
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 24-08-2012, 22:08:49
There is still a possibility
if the maps were altered a bit
to meet the standards.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Lightning on 24-08-2012, 22:08:04
Don't let a "little" dreamcrusher crush your dreams.
Now what is that supposed to mean?!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Alakazou on 24-08-2012, 22:08:26
Lightning, I think Pizzaman12 challenged you. Crush him :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 24-08-2012, 22:08:28
Oh S*** what have I done...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: CptdeS35 on 24-08-2012, 22:08:39
He will find you...

(http://idesigniphone.net/wallpapers/51010.png)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 25-08-2012, 00:08:44
A wise choice Kelmola, that way it won't hurt so much when the dreamcrusher comes a knocking.
Don't worry. I try to be gentle.

HAHAHAHA, I lied.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: McCloskey on 26-08-2012, 03:08:48
I've just been lurking through the files again because I wanted to mod some of the HUD elements and I found this particular (http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/9510/tankheavyjuno.jpg) minimap icon named "heavy_tank_juno.dds". Oh yeah, can't wait to finally hop into the AVRE baby

;D

(I realize it may have been there for quite some time, but it just means it is more likely we will get Juno.)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TASSER on 26-08-2012, 05:08:43
Good find McCloskey!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: titsmcgee852 on 26-08-2012, 11:08:28
Nice detective work!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: THeTA0123 on 26-08-2012, 12:08:53
I've just been lurking through the files again because I wanted to mod some of the HUD elements and I found this particular (http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/9510/tankheavyjuno.jpg) minimap icon named "heavy_tank_juno.dds". Oh yeah, can't wait to finally hop into the AVRE baby

;D

(I realize it may have been there for quite some time, but it just means it is more likely we will get Juno.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWWEok4hHSE
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: McCloskey on 26-08-2012, 14:08:36
Ahahah, was waiting what would Mr. Theta reply with. He didn't disappoint. :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: hitm4k3r on 26-08-2012, 18:08:13
If Theta would spend more time on the server *hint to the Italian maps* then he would shat his pants.

Because there is one of those beasts on Garigliano Crossing. Slow as hell reloding speed but a real blast if you hit something.  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: McCloskey on 26-08-2012, 18:08:13
Sure, custom maps can make use of many unused pieces that are currently in the game files.. one could perhaps even use the Lightning (but I don't know if it's been coded or not, only saw the model... which might not even be finished yet from the looks of it). But it's not the same as having it on an official map :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 26-08-2012, 21:08:23
No updates today?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 26-08-2012, 22:08:05
Sure, custom maps can make use of many unused pieces that are currently in the game files.. one could perhaps even use the Lightning (but I don't know if it's been coded or not, only saw the model... which might not even be finished yet from the looks of it). But it's not the same as having it on an official map :)

It flies. although in game it looks very... FH1ish
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 27-08-2012, 07:08:41
Sure, custom maps can make use of many unused pieces that are currently in the game files.. one could perhaps even use the Lightning (but I don't know if it's been coded or not, only saw the model... which might not even be finished yet from the looks of it). But it's not the same as having it on an official map :)

It flies. although in game it looks very... FH1ish
because it was ported from FH1
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 28-08-2012, 22:08:18
because it was ported from FH1

Yea but it looks more... "low res" then say the GMC and the PIII L
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: McCloskey on 28-08-2012, 22:08:08
guess what, it wasn't made FH2 compatible? :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 29-08-2012, 01:08:55
Why is there P38 in the first place?
What map(s) could it appear in?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Eat Uranium on 29-08-2012, 02:08:57
http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/fh2_weapons.php (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/fh2_weapons.php)

(http://i.imgur.com/EEgwa.png)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: McCloskey on 29-08-2012, 02:08:25
Soviets will have P-38!?






 ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Eat Uranium on 29-08-2012, 02:08:00
Oh no, the P-38 was just there I think because someone exported from FH1 it to try it out on Bou Zid to see if it was worth taking the time to make it for FH2.  So far, apparently it wasn't worth it.  Sorry to rain on your happy parade.

My post refered to the soviet handweapons appearing on the website.  Expect more soon.  Nothing new though unless I'm stupid.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: McCloskey on 29-08-2012, 02:08:41
I guess the smiley wasn't obvious enough, damn...

Anyway, please, feel free to be stupid! :D

PS quite a lot of stuff in the weapon/vehicle section has only a thumbnail but no link to the actual render picture. Is it gonna be "fixed" or will that be left the way it is?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: CologneSky on 29-08-2012, 03:08:11
any special reason the mosin-nagant was not included in the weapon section for the soviets?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Eat Uranium on 29-08-2012, 03:08:32
PS quite a lot of stuff in the weapon/vehicle section has only a thumbnail but no link to the actual render picture. Is it gonna be "fixed" or will that be left the way it is?
Some things just don't have renders.  Others were never added, and hopefully I'll be able to track these down.  Some are FH1 ports (and reworks) of non-'FH2 ready' vehicles - the FH1 renders may or may not be able to be used in these cases.
any special reason the mosin-nagant was not included in the weapon section for the soviets?
Because I haven't made an icon for it yet.  This one (and the DP), might take a while.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 29-08-2012, 08:08:05
 I found this interesting:

http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/fh2_vehicles.php?country=3&type=3

Higgins Boat LCVP - Upcoming!


 :o
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: DLFReporter on 29-08-2012, 08:08:49
Isn't that the static boat on PdH? ^^
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst on 29-08-2012, 09:08:59
But isnt it known for years? It was never displayed as upcoming thoung.

http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/news.php?id_news=254
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Eat Uranium on 29-08-2012, 09:08:15
It sat there since before 2.15 in all probability, wearing a 'Normandy' tag.  But since there were no maps for it, I recently added it to the 'Upcoming' group because otherwise someone could get the impression that it is on an FH2 map.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 29-08-2012, 12:08:57
I found this interesting:

http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/fh2_vehicles.php?country=3&type=3

Higgins Boat LCVP - Upcoming!


 :o

I used that boat on Salerno yesterday.  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Biiviz on 29-08-2012, 13:08:06
It's in-game, but not placed on any map. The creator of Salerno simply placed a vehicle available in the roster.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 30-08-2012, 18:08:15
Kratzer, Kev4000 and Eat Uranium are playing Testmap G. A new one?! Hmmm.....

EDIT: Testmap G is running with shitton of developers and betatesters! Should we expect a new map announcement soon?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 30-08-2012, 21:08:24
Now it's test map "H"

 ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Steel_Lion_FIN on 30-08-2012, 22:08:26
Kratzer, Kev4000 and Eat Uranium are playing Testmap G. A new one?! Hmmm.....

EDIT: Testmap G is running with shitton of developers and betatesters! Should we expect a new map announcement soon?

No.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Eat Uranium on 31-08-2012, 00:08:10
You guys are adorable.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: McCloskey on 31-08-2012, 01:08:32
lmao.. what's the point of this? there are certainly some maps purely for testing ordnance, like a camp, firing range etc. A new letter doesn't have to mean a new map that WILL make it into the final build. ::)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 31-08-2012, 01:08:00
We're just guessing  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 31-08-2012, 09:08:16
You are bathing in misery and hope waiting for someone to come and pull the plug.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: sheikyerbouti on 31-08-2012, 12:08:13
 it would be reasonable to assume that you don't need a large amount of players to test out ordinance values and settings.


 Hoping for a maus for Christmas, barring that, a couple of Russkie maps would be an acceptable substitute.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Steel_Lion_FIN on 31-08-2012, 12:08:14
it would be reasonable to assume that you don't need a large amount of players to test out ordinance values and settings.


 Hoping for a maus for Christmas, barring that, a couple of Russkie maps would be an acceptable substitute.

Not gonna happen, i'm afraid.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: sheikyerbouti on 01-09-2012, 05:09:20
 Says who?


we just got a handful of kick ass italy maps.


 Who knows what is around the bend.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Steel_Lion_FIN on 01-09-2012, 05:09:40
Community created Italy maps, mind you. It's up to the devs to decide if they are enough up to standard to add as official maps.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: McCloskey on 01-09-2012, 05:09:51
They were great, some more than others, but I can see how devs would turn them upside down before implementing them, so they're probably not gonna get implemented ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 01-09-2012, 10:09:48
I think Salerno was good enough to get implemented. Just a little of the magical touch of the devs and its great!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 01-09-2012, 10:09:11
What would this "little magical touch" involve, exactly?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 01-09-2012, 10:09:19
Hmm lets see,

-some houses look too shiny thats worth fixing,
- the landing craft should be Spreaded a little bit more to make the battle for Lungomare and Other first flags more intense,
- making the flag Hidden Supplies more dangerous, its not worth defending,
- making the castle more vulnerable to attacks, maybe with a tunnel, a destructible wall etc... Another sneaky way to get into the castle,

Yeah, these are the "magic touches" wich could be applied IMO  :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 01-09-2012, 10:09:47
And all that time could be spent on working on eastern front. ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 01-09-2012, 10:09:49
Riiight! I must admit Eastern Front sounds better!  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 01-09-2012, 13:09:31
So then,
what happens after devs complete
Eastern Front 1943-1944?

More Soviets?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 01-09-2012, 13:09:42
If the mod is still going on, I'd say pacific would be the next logical step.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 01-09-2012, 16:09:38
If the mod is still going on, I'd say pacific would be the next logical step.

 Have there been late night discussions in undisclosed bunkers about withdrawing from the mod for good?

Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: McCloskey on 01-09-2012, 16:09:57
Dude, don't even joke about that :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 01-09-2012, 16:09:54
One of my biggest fears is the end of FH2 devellopement.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TASSER on 01-09-2012, 16:09:50
One of my biggest fears is te end of FH2 devellopement.

Same here man :-\
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: IrishReloaded on 01-09-2012, 16:09:50
may there will be a new platform where next version of Forgotten Hope will start - who knows .

would be interesting to see how the discussions about the same "problem" were handeld back in FH1 days
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: McCloskey on 01-09-2012, 16:09:05
Tbh that was something different, they were moving onto a new platform, but it was still a Battlefield game with mod tools. There will be no more mod tools for the new Battlefields so that comes off the table and I don't think devs would move to a different engine any time soon. Or at least I hope they won't.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ciupita on 01-09-2012, 17:09:35
So then,
what happens after devs complete
Eastern Front 1943-1944?

More Soviets?

I would say make it till 1945 for eastern front.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 01-09-2012, 17:09:07
I wanna see 1942 at least...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 01-09-2012, 20:09:57
Tbh that was something different, they were moving onto a new platform, but it was still a Battlefield game with mod tools.
The mod tools for BF2 were made by the community, they weren't packed with the original copies.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: McCloskey on 01-09-2012, 21:09:11
I'm well aware of that, but didn't the team decide to move to BF2 after the tools were available?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 01-09-2012, 21:09:06
Actually the BF2 mod tools are made by DICE, Slayer is thinking of BF1942.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 01-09-2012, 21:09:42
Ow, I thought they were both made by "the public".
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MrPolska on 06-09-2012, 17:09:10
found by a happy coincidence

http://www.sichtling.com/work_05.html

The first pics of the Finnish map including a T50 Tank

(http://www.sichtling.com/images/work_05/new_image_1.jpg)

(http://www.sichtling.com/images/work_05/new_image_2.jpg)

(http://www.sichtling.com/images/work_05/mp34_render_01.jpg)

(http://www.sichtling.com/images/work_05/mp34_ingame_01.jpg)

Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: McCloskey on 06-09-2012, 17:09:28
awww yeaaah ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MrPolska on 06-09-2012, 17:09:32
The map seems to be "Prokhorovka" where the T50 was used, this map was also noted on the test servers :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 06-09-2012, 18:09:30
Holy crap! Are you sure these are real and confirmed? (It's the MP34  :D)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 06-09-2012, 18:09:16
A finnish tank in prokhorovka? Unlikely.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Eat Uranium on 06-09-2012, 18:09:42
I think the map is probably no more than a photo shoot background.  I certainly don't recognise it.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Thorondor123 on 06-09-2012, 18:09:14
The map seems to be "Prokhorovka" where the T50 was used, this map was also noted on the test servers :)
Sure, Prokhorovka. T-50 was used only on the Leningrad front, and this one is in Finnish colours. How on Earth is that Prokhorovka?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MrPolska on 06-09-2012, 18:09:52
The map seems to be "Prokhorovka" where the T50 was used, this map was also noted on the test servers :)
Sure, Prokhorovka. T-50 was used only on the Leningrad front, and this one is in Finnish colours. How on Earth is that Prokhorovka?

Ohh, it should be Portinhoikka and not Prokhorovka ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: McCloskey on 06-09-2012, 18:09:30
Obviously, this isn't Prokhorovka. At least it shouldn't be. I assume we should be expecting a rainy/muddy weather as pointed out in the dev blog by some of the community members.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: mopskind on 06-09-2012, 18:09:24
I think the map is probably no more than a photo shoot background.  I certainly don't recognise it.

Get this thing onboard then, the ambient and lighting and the trees look fantastic!  8)

Also which Dev is Johan?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MrPolska on 06-09-2012, 18:09:52
Holy crap! Are you sure these are real and confirmed? (It's the MP34  :D)

On the side is written "Work made for the Battlefield 2 Modification Forgotten Hope 2" and  T26 was already stated in the changelog. Did the Finns used the MP34 in the War ?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Thorondor123 on 06-09-2012, 18:09:32
Holy crap! Are you sure these are real and confirmed? (It's the MP34  :D)

Hopefully, the T26 was already stated in the changelog. Did the Finns used the MP34 in the War ?
Nope. I guess all of them were just put on the same map to take screenshots.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 06-09-2012, 18:09:13
Another question; most of you know how much I love MP18 and other models of it, so will it be included to the mod anytime soon?  :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 06-09-2012, 18:09:34
found by a happy coincidence

http://www.sichtling.com/work_05.html

The first pics of the Finnish map including a T50 Tank


 Well arent you the sneaky little undercover weasel.......


Well Done!!!!!
 :-*
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Sorken on 06-09-2012, 19:09:23
found by a happy coincidence

http://www.sichtling.com/work_05.html

The first pics of the Finnish map including a T50 Tank


Nice find! How did you come across this?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: CologneSky on 06-09-2012, 21:09:59
found by a happy coincidence

The first pics of the Finnish map including a T50 Tank


awesome find! very well done!

and the stuff looks really nice, too..
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 07-09-2012, 00:09:06
Also which Dev is Johan?

Sorken I think

Awesome find too
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MrPolska on 07-09-2012, 10:09:43
found by a happy coincidence

http://www.sichtling.com/work_05.html

The first pics of the Finnish map including a T50 Tank


Nice find! How did you come across this?

google pic search, I tipped "forgotten hope mp34" in.  Actually I wanted to press the normal search buttom

But really nice models  :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MrPolska on 07-09-2012, 10:09:05
Just looked for more pics in google and found this

http://www.coroflot.com/Tomwydeven/Forgotten-Hope-2

The Po2 was not shown yet, I guess  :)

(http://s3images.coroflot.com/user_files/individual_files/original_461638_WyizSikzZQRHyLKPfYhDf_xSD.jpg)

Not in the FH2 section of the page but also quite interesting. The S.M 81 "pipistrello", would be nice to see this plane on the africa maps

(http://s3images.coroflot.com/user_files/individual_files/original_461638_0wHI3xIjja4vhuvFzySa75AyE.jpg)



Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: DLFReporter on 07-09-2012, 10:09:30
Oh noes, you found Herc's secret stash! ^^
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 07-09-2012, 10:09:24
We poor beta testers, the devs are always on our case about leaking and then they let stuff like that lie around on the internet for the world to see  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Krätzer on 07-09-2012, 11:09:38
And? Will be shown in News anyway, everything you show here is just one News Post that doesn´t matter anymore.

People need to Post this Stuff on their Folios, without Updates of their latest work no one will hand out Jobs.

Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 07-09-2012, 11:09:48
I must admit, these are one of the best finds I've ever seen!  :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: titsmcgee852 on 07-09-2012, 15:09:03
Came everywhere :')
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LuckyOne on 07-09-2012, 18:09:28
Came everywhere :')

I bet Theta will too when he sees this awesome Italian bias plane!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Eat Uranium on 07-09-2012, 19:09:10
Ultimately, by actively looking for this stuff, you will eventually disappoint yourselves.  You'll find something that an FH2 dev has made and put in their portfolio and think to yourself "wow, I can't wait till this is in FH2", and then you'll wait forevermore, as the crushing reality that what you found will never be in the mod grows ever stronger.

Also, you piss me off, because I like surprising people with stuff in the news.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: McCloskey on 07-09-2012, 20:09:23
To me it's not about if it'll ever appear in FH2, I don't care about that. It's just nice to see such stuff made for the Refractor engine, which can only mean there's a higher possibility of the model appearing in game one day. No matter when that might be.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 07-09-2012, 20:09:31
Ultimately, by actively looking for this stuff, you will eventually disappoint yourselves.  You'll find something that an FH2 dev has made and put in their portfolio and think to yourself "wow, I can't wait till this is in FH2", and then you'll wait forevermore, as the crushing reality that what you found will never be in the mod grows ever stronger.

Also, you piss me off, because I like surprising people with stuff in the news.

You mean, the things we find gets cancelled  the moment we find out about them? If so, this topic should be killed with fire!  :-\
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: THeTA0123 on 07-09-2012, 20:09:05
Ultimately, by actively looking for this stuff, you will eventually disappoint yourselves.  You'll find something that an FH2 dev has made and put in their portfolio and think to yourself "wow, I can't wait till this is in FH2", and then you'll wait forevermore, as the crushing reality that what you found will never be in the mod grows ever stronger.

Also, you piss me off, because I like surprising people with stuff in the news.
^this
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 08-09-2012, 00:09:09
I like this thread.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 08-09-2012, 00:09:27
I like this thread.

Me too. But if this thread is gonna risk the future content of FH2, I'd rather get it locked.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: McCloskey on 08-09-2012, 00:09:34
I like this thread.

Me too. But if this thread is gonna risk the future content of FH2, I'd rather get it locked.

LQL, mate.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 08-09-2012, 00:09:24
I like this thread.

Me too. But if this thread is gonna risk the future content of FH2, I'd rather get it locked.

LQL, mate.

What's so funny? Just getting some precautions.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: McCloskey on 08-09-2012, 00:09:17
The fact that you seem to actually believe devs would not implement a model/map/whatever and throw it away just because it was listed in this thread? ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TASSER on 08-09-2012, 00:09:38
I like this thread.

Me too. But if this thread is gonna risk the future content of FH2, I'd rather get it locked.

LQL, mate.

What's so funny? Just getting some precautions.

I believe EU was saying that if you dig up things that haven't been officially announced, you're opening yourself up for dissapointment, as there is a possibility that it will not be added to the mod.

Devs try very hard to limit some information about what is being developed so noone will get dissapointed/angry when something they want and think is coming happens not to be included.

Not: "Looks like they discovered our secret models, 'eff these guys! We're not going to include it!"

That's what's funny ::)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Surfbird on 08-09-2012, 00:09:11
To be honest, I somehow like all that stupid conspiracies but I am patient and rather wait for the news with all the details. Not sure if this thread makes things worse. Probably the discovery of the personal developers websites made things worse indeed.

I think I'm not gonna read here anymore as people will post the new pics from their websites all the time. That's not a conspiracy to me and takes the surprise away. Finding those websites was a huge success for this thread for sure, but I would not want to see new pictures from there all the time.

I rather watch Pizzaman and TurkishCommando running circles while trying to decode testmaps A-Y all day, not because I have any clue what maps are behind that letters, but because it's plain stupid. The stage is yours ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 08-09-2012, 00:09:15
I feel like we are little kids trying to listen what the grown-ups are talking about through a doors keyhole. (not sure if I should put smiley face or awkward face)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TASSER on 08-09-2012, 00:09:34
I feel like we are little kids...

I get that feeling too sometimes ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 08-09-2012, 14:09:07
(http://images.wikia.com/adventuretimewithfinnandjake/images/7/7d/3005.jackie-chan-meme-why.jpg)

If devs don't want to show their secret work,
why do they post images of their unreleased content?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 08-09-2012, 14:09:39
(http://images.wikia.com/adventuretimewithfinnandjake/images/7/7d/3005.jackie-chan-meme-why.jpg)

If devs don't want to show their secret work,
why do they post images of their unreleased content?

Portfolio, you know... for jobs that actually pay you.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: McCloskey on 17-09-2012, 03:09:26
(http://imageshack.us/a/img38/3576/churchv.jpg)

A static from my most anticipated map 8)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img515/2093/stavelot.jpg)

And another one from Stavelot. Me gusta.

(http://imageshack.us/a/img196/9950/saintemereeglise.jpg)

Shame you can't get stuck with your parachute on the chapel, I'd even do it intentionally :P

(this really is a church simulator, isn't it)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 17-09-2012, 04:09:31
What is that church in the middle?
Dont recognize it.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: hitm4k3r on 17-09-2012, 04:09:13
It is the church of Stavelot. There are some other interesting statics for this City in the editor files so maybe we get this map someday. In Darkest Hour this map is a blast.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 17-09-2012, 04:09:19
 There was a FH1 custom map called Battle of Foy that had a dead paratrooper hanging from a tree.

 You could hang it from the spire!


  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TASSER on 18-09-2012, 00:09:44
I'm a pretty devout Catholic, and as such I've seen a lot of churches. But I don't think I've ever been so excited to see new ones like this ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Wakain on 18-09-2012, 13:09:43
great to see some statics rendered, it'd be great if there'd be a devblog about fh2's statics someday, most have as much details as a tank
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: titsmcgee852 on 18-09-2012, 15:09:03
Question to devs, around how many maps do you guys have in development at any one time?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: djinn on 18-09-2012, 15:09:25
So you're asking this in the conspiracy thread expecting to a get a straight answer
(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/images/300x/68999.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Nissi on 18-09-2012, 18:09:00
great to see some statics rendered, it'd be great if there'd be a devblog about fh2's statics someday, most have as much details as a tank

Likelihood isn't 0.  :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: radiosmersh on 20-09-2012, 18:09:57
Found the file called Sky_kuurteleska in sky textures.

(http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=14169.0;attach=4296)
Battle of Kuuterselkä in 14th - 15th of June 1944 between Soviet Union and Finland.

After the succesful breakthrough at Valkeasaari, the Red Army advances towards the second line of defense, the Vammelsuu-Taipale line. They mount a large spearheaded attack against the Finnish positions and puncture a deep hole at Kuuterselkä.

A strong attack against the Finnish defensive line results in a breakthrough and loss of VT-line. A fierce counterattack by the finns is repelled and the finns are forced to leave VT-line as a whole.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 20-09-2012, 18:09:11
Nice find! Hope it gets used someday, would really like to see Finns or Poles on the Ostfront  :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Steel_Lion_FIN on 20-09-2012, 19:09:28
Well, Kuuterselkä and Portinhoikka were spotted on the test server some time ago.. and they've been mentioned in the changelog.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 20-09-2012, 19:09:47
Portinhoikka spotted on the test server some time ago.. been mentioned in the changelog.

I didnt get the memo of that, it seems. :-/
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 22-09-2012, 20:09:18
 Puffendorf spotted on Test server.

 Will this map make it into next patch?

 :o
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 22-09-2012, 20:09:10
It's been there for a while now,
Dont count on it.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TASSER on 25-09-2012, 00:09:46
Hmm... Spy photo of Normandy beach map? Looks pretty Omaha-ish, and was posted in a Omaha fan map build.

(Posted by Nissi while explaining Belgian gates)

They were used very often. Mostly attached to each other.

(http://www.abload.de/img/screen1wopy.jpg)  ;)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-77b8LrCR-gA/TXd2SL1XDiI/AAAAAAAAAXc/HHJiuoP3t8Q/s1600/Belgium%2BGates%2B1.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 25-09-2012, 00:09:03
http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/maps.php?scenario=1&map=43

Nope
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TASSER on 25-09-2012, 00:09:58
Nah, I don't think its from Charlie Sector. Been a while since I've played FH1, but from looking at old pictures, there seem to be some differences between the one Nissi posted and the FH1 map.

http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/images/news/23%20-%20Charlie_01.jpg

I could certainly be wrong though!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: McCloskey on 25-09-2012, 00:09:57
That screen is from a map Nissi was working on a long time ago... look it up in the modding section. (iirc)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 25-09-2012, 01:09:25
Actually it's on this thread also:

http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?topic=14169.180

Nissi's old project.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TASSER on 25-09-2012, 03:09:16
Ahh I see. Hell of a great looking map. I'd love to download and take a look at it. Very refreshing to see someone take on a historically accurate Omaha.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LuckyOne on 26-09-2012, 13:09:04
Look what I found on PR's Forum:

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Lastly is not related to the French, but news about a recent development with our developer friends over at Forgotten Hope 2, we've decided to trade usage rights of the No. 4 rifle with the SMLE MKIII* pictured above. Reasons being that it is by opinion of the team a higher quality asset, and (in the case of the sniper variant) can allow for the use of the iron sights even with a scope mounted. The Enfield will remain in common use with the Taliban faction, despite us implementing the Mosin Nagant series. In fact as BLUFOR, you might be running into both of these ancient yet powerful workhorses at the same time.

So will we finally see this also in FH 2, or the devs are still just considering it?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: McCloskey on 26-09-2012, 15:09:31
dafuq, did they slap the No.4 scope on the No.1 rifle? also had no idea No.4 with scope couldn't use ironsights :(

and tbh they are going to implement it, when I posted it in the suggestion thread, Lightning's response wasn't a dreamcrush but an approval, actually. ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: titsmcgee852 on 07-10-2012, 15:10:29
If we see Foy in 2.5 or whenever, god I hope it is like the Band of Brothers Foy scene. I want to re-enact that scene more than anything in my life  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 07-10-2012, 17:10:49
If we see Foy in 2.5 or whenever, god I hope it is like the Band of Brothers Foy scene. I want to re-enact that scene more than anything in my life  :P

Aerial Shot of the village of Foy
(http://www.battleofnormandytours.com/uploads/2/5/1/7/2517577/2484733_orig.jpg?167)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 07-10-2012, 18:10:48
Where is the Jacques woods?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TASSER on 07-10-2012, 23:10:06
The Bois Jacques are (is?) to the southwest of the village. You can actually still find the foxholes the 506th dug during the siege in the woods there :) pretty astounding.

Really, really hope Foy find its way into the mod for the next release!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 07-10-2012, 23:10:38
But where is it in the picture?
I could of sworn Foy was near a forest!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: McCloskey on 08-10-2012, 00:10:11
https://maps.google.cz/maps?hl=cs&ll=50.042699,5.756965&spn=0.022104,0.03798&brcurrent=5,0,0&t=k&z=15
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 08-10-2012, 00:10:00
But thats from 2008...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: McCloskey on 08-10-2012, 00:10:08
No shit? If you look closely, then you might see that the image Jimi posted shows only the town itself... the woods would be further away if the photograph was taken from bigger distance.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TASSER on 08-10-2012, 04:10:52
Foy was actually a good few hundred yards away from the Bois Jacques, unlike in BoB where they depict the town a stones throw from where Easy was dug in.

But less geography and more conspiracy please...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: titsmcgee852 on 08-10-2012, 11:10:31
I always thought it never made sense to have HQ so close to the town you were about to attack :P that makes a lot more sense.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: djinn on 08-10-2012, 13:10:44
Wasn't a stone throw in the movie. They looked through binoculars during the movie, remember.
And a fww 100yards is still in 88 range. Shelling with 88 at that distance will be inaccurate, but quite possible.

And they DID run quite a bit to get to it, no? In FH1, that distance was almost half the effective map.
I think the distance was reasonable.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 08-10-2012, 13:10:42
Shelling with 88 at 100 yards is inaccurate? Dude, that thing had an effective range of 16 200 yards on ground targets. I must have misunderstood you somehow.

I had only couple of hours sleep so Im not at my sharpest right now.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: djinn on 08-10-2012, 13:10:45
Shelling with 88 at 100 yards is inaccurate? Dude, that thing had an effective range of 16 200 yards on ground targets. I must have misunderstood you somehow.

I had only couple of hours sleep so Im not at my sharpest right now.

I would say, because we aren't disagreeing.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 08-10-2012, 23:10:42
Shelling with 88 at 100 yards is inaccurate? Dude, that thing had an effective range of 16 200 yards on ground targets. I must have misunderstood you somehow.

I had only couple of hours sleep so Im not at my sharpest right now.

I would say, because we aren't disagreeing.
Eeehm yes. You say 88 is inaccurate at 100 yards, wghereas FW states that the 88 has an effective range of 16200 yards, which is 162 times higher.  ???
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 09-10-2012, 01:10:06
Umm.... 100 yards is point-blank distance for the 88, there would be hardly any shell drop (about 6 cm), if out of nowhere comes a 25m/s storm gust (for which the gunner has not compensated) directly perpendicular to the flight path, the shell will land a whopping 1,67m off target. Wartime manuals estimate that 50% of shots at range of 200m would hit in a 10cmx20cm box. It still packs 1kg of explosives and 8kg shrapnel, so this is rather negligible as the would-be target will be a pile of bloody pulp anyway.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: djinn on 09-10-2012, 01:10:42
Shelling infatry with 88 = firing a straight tragectory weapon against a wooded area with unseen infantry.
I'm not speaking of how accurate the gun is, I'm speaking of how accurate it was in Foy's instance.

I'm referring to playability as a result of keeping realistic distances and yet getting the effect in the BoB series.

We WERE talking about distances in real life compared to the movie... I was just using the 88 shelling as a means of saying, the movie may have been more accurate than it seemed.

it was a casual point, really not supposed to be overly dissected this way.

Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 02-11-2012, 00:11:26
Official word (via official news update) is this:

"In other news, we are still working hard to get the Eastern Front ready, and you should expect to see some more Soviet and German equipment from that theatre in the news. But we might also have a few other surprises before the Eastern Front patch. Keep a look out for some new scenarios and content in our current theatres."


And ruskies arn't arriving next patch so:
Not necessarily correct.

says who exactly?!?
Devs, kinda. But I think you and I were both saying the same thing.

Do you have any info that they are?
Read the news updates.

I like this thread.
Must be real fun to watch us fall over ourselves trying to figure things out :)

I will say very good job with trying to determine the test maps pizzzaman :) A quite scientific approach to the ongoing investigation.

When you say really buggy, can you be a bit more specific?

We are of course working on a new version where we will address bugs along with adding some new content.It will not feature Russian Front nor Pacific though, and that's all I can say about the contents of the next version..

Before X-mas would be preferable, but we won't promise anything..

After 2 months, I rest my case.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: titsmcgee852 on 02-11-2012, 14:11:58
Maybe it's just set in stone now, and wasn't before.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 01-12-2012, 23:12:48
Test server is running Test Map "AA",  ;D
This is getting a bit out of hand...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 01-12-2012, 23:12:00
Test server is running Test Map "AA",  ;D
This is getting a bit out of hand...

Hmmm...

Quote
As many of you are no doubt aware, there has recently been a continuing test of a larger than 64 player server, using code developed by Nemes1s. If these tests result in a successful outcome, then Forgotten Hope 2 will be updated to take advantage of larger server sizes

Myabe they doubled up the map sizes? Ya' know; A is 2x2 km and AA is 4x4?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: titsmcgee852 on 02-12-2012, 11:12:29
You're probably reading a bit too much into it
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LuckyOne on 02-12-2012, 11:12:57
Obviously the AA map is the fixed A map (improved quality)... But unfortunately, the devs don't release maps until they're at least AAA quality. :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: ksl94 on 02-12-2012, 12:12:04
There have been many hints in the news updates that suggest that we may have the Italian theatre as a christmas present. That would be outright awesome
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 02-12-2012, 13:12:32
There have been many hints in the news updates that suggest that we may have the Italian theatre as a christmas present. That would be outright awesome

Cha-ching! +1 That would be awesome. I still expect the French.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: hyperanthropos on 02-12-2012, 13:12:16
There have been many hints in the news updates that suggest that we may have the Italian theatre as a christmas present. That would be outright awesome

Can you tell me which hints you re meaning exactly?

Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 02-12-2012, 13:12:08
There have been many hints in the news updates that suggest that we may have the Italian theatre as a christmas present. That would be outright awesome

Can you tell me which hints you re meining exactly?

Yeah I would be very interested in that  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LuckyOne on 02-12-2012, 13:12:59
There have been many hints in the news updates that suggest that we may have the Italian theatre as a christmas present. That would be outright awesome

And what hints would those be?

Anyway I'm sure the next or the update after it could bring us something to do with sea (battles)... As a certain betatester has a (crappy) picture of an ocean in his signature...  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Butcher on 02-12-2012, 14:12:21
The longer we wait, the better. I prefer a mod brought back to its old standards that takes time, over anything else that´s created quickly. So stop being pushy. ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 02-12-2012, 14:12:20
There have been many hints in the news updates that suggest that we may have the Italian theatre as a christmas present. That would be outright awesome

Quote
In other news, we are still working hard to get the Eastern Front ready, and you should expect to see some more Soviet and German equipment from that theatre in the news. But we might also have a few other surprises before the Eastern Front patch. Keep a look out for some new scenarios  and content in our current theatres.

Is Italy considered Western Front?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 02-12-2012, 15:12:47
I'd call it Southern front xD
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 02-12-2012, 15:12:45
Well, they had some units fighting on the Eastern Front IIRC
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Steel_Lion_FIN on 02-12-2012, 17:12:58
The next patch will most likely feature more Normandy maps, more American North Africa maps and possibly some Market Garden maps (very, very unlikely though)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: McCloskey on 02-12-2012, 20:12:34
Market Garden is just not gonna happen... It is something I'd probably like to see the most in the mod, but devs are just not gonna justify spending their precious time doing maps for a scenario that played out in a few days' time :( It is rather sad, because I believe there could be various maps made from that short albeit very frenetic part of the war.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 04-12-2012, 22:12:55
Looks like Italy is...

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/images/languages/english/scenarios/FH2/westernfront.gif)

Italian campaign would be nice, but I don't really think it will happen recently.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 04-12-2012, 22:12:06
What map before Ostfront is next you say guys?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 04-12-2012, 22:12:24
Battle of Britian.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 05-12-2012, 06:12:33
Battle of Britian.

I hope so. An all-air map would be good.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 15-12-2012, 14:12:50
Conspiracy Time!

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/news/121214/fhanniversary.png)

Any guesses what the map is?
Or is it fake to stage the tanks?
Or something else?

Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: hyperanthropos on 15-12-2012, 14:12:28
Look at the awesome unreleased Eastern front building in the Background! Fuck yeah!

no certainly no fakemap, remember when we wondered which map the new american vehicles (for sidi bou zid) were presented on!? That evil jan kurator -I think it was him - told us it would be a nice little fake presentation map!!!! Dont let them fool us this time !!! xD
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 15-12-2012, 14:12:35
Its probably the woods and farms in Prokhorovka KnoffHoff talked about. Well, at least I suppose so. But lets wait for the Sunday update, shall we?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 15-12-2012, 14:12:39
It's testmap C.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 15-12-2012, 15:12:14
It's testmap C.
Not sure if for real, or just trolling us...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 15-12-2012, 15:12:37
Nah, it is testmap C for real. You can take Ts4EVER's word on this one.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 15-12-2012, 15:12:41
Even if its Testmap C, we still dont know the name. But nice to know some Easternfront maps are on the kevel of testing :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 15-12-2012, 15:12:14
Sorry I lied. It's testmap f.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 15-12-2012, 15:12:37
I remember Testmap F was been testing during mid 2.4, isnt that too early for an EasternFront map?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 15-12-2012, 15:12:31
We tested the first eastern front maps shortly after 2.4 was released
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 15-12-2012, 15:12:23
When was precisely Eastern Front announced anyways?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 15-12-2012, 16:12:58
http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/archives.php?selectedmonth=1&selectedyear=2011
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TASSER on 15-12-2012, 16:12:17
Really gives you an appreciation for how much effort it takes to bring a new theatre into the game.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 15-12-2012, 16:12:58
Sorry I lied. It's testmap f.
Now don't make this more complicated than it is. It isn't so bad that they know it is testmap C,so just let them.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 17-12-2012, 21:12:03
Its probably the woods and farms in Prokhorovka KnoffHoff talked about. Well, at least I suppose so. But lets wait for the Sunday update, shall we?

Sunday update has passed, Conspiracy time!:
Finland vs Soviet Union? 1944? Forest?

Definantly a Karelia remake.  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 17-12-2012, 21:12:04
Ermm... This is gonna sound stupid but did ever Germany fight Finland in WW2? I know they were allies, but ya' know, things happen.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Steel_Lion_FIN on 17-12-2012, 21:12:00
Ermm... This is gonna sound stupid but did ever Germany fight Finland in WW2? I know they were allies, but ya' know, things happen.

Yes, when the Soviets forced Finns as a condition in the peace treaty to drive the Germans out of Finnish Lapland. Germans then torched everything as they retreated.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: THeTA0123 on 17-12-2012, 22:12:46
Ermm... This is gonna sound stupid but did ever Germany fight Finland in WW2? I know they were allies, but ya' know, things happen.
Germany got there asses kicked just like the russians

One does not simply invade finland
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Biiviz on 19-12-2012, 10:12:30
In the beginning phase we tried getting the Germans out by shipping them by train or by sea to Norway or elsewhere, but eventually the Soviets demanded that we take up arms and force them out. This resulted in what is known to the Finns as "The Lapland War", as most of the fighting took place while the Germans were retreating through Lapland towards Norway, utilizing the Scorched Earth tactic throughout. The entire city of Rovaniemi was burned to the ground, for example.

This was tough on both parties as we had been brothers in arms for years, and the Germans (not the Nazis) were liked by the Finns.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 19-12-2012, 11:12:30
Would love to have a Finland vs. Germany map, because we'll have Finland vs. USSR for sure.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Surfbird on 19-12-2012, 15:12:02
I think we know you want everything in the mod that is in any form related to WW2, no matter if content that makes sense or a true to original grain of sand from the 1942 El Alamein desert... ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 21-12-2012, 21:12:02
Test server playing Crimea,   same old, same old,
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 21-12-2012, 21:12:07
But soon to be new...   ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 23-12-2012, 21:12:34
Prokhorovka being tested on Test server, did Knoffhoff finish the map?  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 23-12-2012, 21:12:32
There hasnt been anything heard of KnoffHoff since he posted te part 2 of Road to Prokhorovka... I guess its an early test.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: DaWorg! on 23-12-2012, 21:12:31
Or someone locked him up in the basement with barrels of coffee, not letting him out till he finishes that map  :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 23-12-2012, 21:12:18
Prokhorovka being tested on Test server, did Knoffhoff finish the map?  :P
new maps are being tested since early stages. nobody want to create a map blindly without any feedback on layout and gameplay. Have you seen Prokhorovka on test server before?
There hasnt been anything heard of KnoffHoff since he posted te part 2 of Road to Prokhorovka... I guess its an early test.
On the other hand, the fact that there hasn't been anything heard of KnoffHoff ON PUBLIC FORUM doesn't mean there wasn't any progress of his map.

Now, the question is: is the map being far from finished or maybe it is ready to release...  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 23-12-2012, 21:12:17
There hasnt been anything heard of KnoffHoff since he posted te part 2 of Road to Prokhorovka... I guess its an early test.
On the other hand, the fact that there hasn't been anything heard of KnoffHoff ON PUBLIC FORUM doesn't mean there wasn't any progress of his map.

I didnt mean that. After all, he's a developer, of course he isnt forced to alert the community of every move he does. :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 28-12-2012, 17:12:24
Gavrant playing Prokhorovka on test server.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 04-01-2013, 12:01:22
Look what I've found on the interwebz site of one of the devs:

(http://s3images.coroflot.com/user_files/individual_files/461638_EETrXMfSDLbsU4uvlk2vDLhnc.jpg)
(http://s3images.coroflot.com/user_files/individual_files/461638_y3Me2qKSjXt2Oek_WHo6eD9zh.jpg)

French airplane Morane-Saulnier!  :D Is this a signal?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: BaskaBommi on 04-01-2013, 12:01:34
French airplane Morane-Saulnier!  :D Is this a signal?
Oooh! Erection! Good work my Anatolian friend.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=221UWotqwdo
Viva La Legion! Viva La France!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: titsmcgee852 on 04-01-2013, 13:01:19
Man that is so fucking cool, but I kinda wish you wouldn't ruin the surprise...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 04-01-2013, 14:01:52
Man that is so fucking cool, but I kinda wish you wouldn't ruin the surprise...

For me that soviet biplane and finnish tanks ruined the eastern front surprise...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 04-01-2013, 15:01:34
 I would really like to be a Finnish Ski-Trooper.


 :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 04-01-2013, 16:01:50
I would really like to be a Finnish Ski-Trooper.


 :P


Skis! Skis! I definately want skis for Finns! Would be kinda like the bike, but with skiing anims instead of peddling and without that invincibility bug.  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Chad1992 on 04-01-2013, 16:01:54
I would really like to be a Finnish Ski-Trooper.


 :P


Skis! Skis! I definately want skis for Finns! Would be kinda like the bike, but with skiing anims instead of peddling and without that invincibility bug.  :P
I actually kinda like the bug, makes the big actually worth using.  Its so slow and ur out in the open, without the bug i wouldn't ever use it.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: BaskaBommi on 04-01-2013, 16:01:16
I actually kinda like the bug, makes the big actually worth using.  Its so slow and ur out in the open, without the bug i wouldn't ever use it.
Once in Crete I took the bike and trolled some tommies by the Monastery. Jump out and kill one and get back in. Rence and repeat. I got, however killed by my own grenade  :-[
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LuckyOne on 04-01-2013, 16:01:02
Nice find on that French fighter! I just hope it won't be slowass turning like in FH 1... I hated it there with a passion...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: hyperanthropos on 04-01-2013, 18:01:41
WoW so early war in french might be one of the "other froinht s the defs talked about!?! super cool!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 04-01-2013, 18:01:59
WoW so early war in french might be one of the "other froinht s the defs talked about!?! super cool!

Hope so, but Italy would be kinda cool too.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 04-01-2013, 21:01:58
Use links, don't post pictures, some don't want to be spoiled!

Anyways, this looks promising, I like the camos on them.
But what map will they be on?...  ::) ...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: CptdeS35 on 04-01-2013, 21:01:26
 :-* Eh Eh.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 04-01-2013, 21:01:13
:-* Eh Eh.

 :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: CptdeS35 on 04-01-2013, 21:01:36
come on stop dreaming XD
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 04-01-2013, 21:01:25
Forgotten Hope 2: where dreams come true






 (NOT)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: CptdeS35 on 04-01-2013, 23:01:47
The question to ask is not if they come true or not, but what you do for them  ;)

but get back to topic =P maybe MS406 is a good news !
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Alakazou on 05-01-2013, 10:01:05
You shouldn't give them false hope CptdeS35, it's so cruel.  :-\
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: CptdeS35 on 05-01-2013, 14:01:02
I know I know NYARK NYARK
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 05-01-2013, 22:01:11
I felt it was time for an update:  :)

Maps found in changelog or test server:
-Battle for Stonne
-Prokhorovka
-Crimea 1944
-Kuuterselkä
-Pegasus Bridge
-Ste Mère Église
-Gold Beach
-Juno Beach
-Mont Ormel (Hill 262)
-Puffendorf
-Foy
-Operation Nordwind 1945

Vehicles found in updates or changelog:
Finland:
-T26
-T50
-Stug40

France:
-sa34
-Bloch 152
-MS 406
-Panhard 178
-Hotchkiss H35
-Somua S35
-Char B1 Bis

Germany:
-3.7cm Stielgrante 41
-sIG33
-BF109G2
-Junkers 87G1
-Junkers F13(?)
-Marder III ausf M
-Ferdinand
-Elefant(?)
-Sturmboat

Polish Forces in the West:
-Bedford
-M3a1 Halftrack
-M5a1 Stuart
-Cromwell
-Sherman V
-Hellcat(?)
-M10 Achilles IIc

Soviet Union:
-ZiS3
-Polikarpov Po2
-BA64
-Katyusha
-T70
-T26
-T34/76 model 1940
-T34/76 model 1943
-T34/85 early
-T34/85 late(?)
-KV1s
-BT7
-SU76
-SU76m
-SU152
-Is2

United States:
-C47
-P38 Lightning
-M4a4
-T20(?)
-M26 Pershing
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 05-01-2013, 23:01:13
-Stavelot
It will not be historically accurate unless there are bot-controlled civilians that give points to the Germans if shot ;D
/troll
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: THeTA0123 on 06-01-2013, 01:01:23

-Elefant(?)

Elefant=hull mounted MG for protection(late war)  Ferdinand in midwar doesnt have that
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 06-01-2013, 01:01:54
I was just a bit confused if we are getting the Elefant also in FH2.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Butcher on 06-01-2013, 03:01:19
Elefant also had a cupola. Would be nice to see the thing for a 1945 Germany Ostfront map, there were a handfull not fighting on the Italian front, south of Berlin if I recall correctly.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 06-01-2013, 07:01:15
Also it shouldnt br hard to make because the devs allready has thr model and could easily make the Elefant.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 06-01-2013, 13:01:13
 Wonder what "Stavelot" could be about? Let me google.......

 Ahhhh.... the scene of the "Malmedy Massacre"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malmedy_massacre

 Interesting choice for the devs. Not sure what they have planned.



 8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 06-01-2013, 15:01:17
Wonder what "Stavelot" could be about? Let me google.......

 Ahhhh.... the scene of the "Malmedy Massacre"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malmedy_massacre

 Interesting choice for the devs. Not sure what they have planned.



 8)

Maybe it's a type of map that allies have to escape Malmedy with no weapons or ammo? That would be an interesting map.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F5-kvyMFTQ
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Butcher on 06-01-2013, 16:01:33
I´m not totally sure whether you are being sarcastic or not. If you are serious about this, I can tell you this isn´t going to happen. You don´t really want to see the mod encouraging the players to commit virtual warcrimes.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 06-01-2013, 16:01:07
Wonder what "Stavelot" could be about? Let me google.......

 Ahhhh.... the scene of the "Malmedy Massacre"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malmedy_massacre

 Interesting choice for the devs. Not sure what they have planned.



 8)

Maybe it's a type of map that allies have to escape Malmedy with no weapons or ammo? That would be an interesting map.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F5-kvyMFTQ

That would require a new game mode and a bare hands kit.  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: CptdeS35 on 06-01-2013, 16:01:51
I´m not totally sure whether you are being sarcastic or not. If you are serious about this, I can tell you this isn´t going to happen. You don´t really want to see the mod encouraging the players to commit virtual warcrimes.

True. Who wanna play a massive murderer ? Not me, that's insane.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: McCloskey on 06-01-2013, 16:01:55
It's not insane... it would just become incredibly boring after one round. It's like that one level in MW2, I played it once and if I'm ever going to play that game again, I'll most likely skip it because it's even less worthwile than the rest of its railshooter levels.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 06-01-2013, 17:01:09
Certainly. Killing unarmed people isnt nice. Killing/wounding/ humiliating war prisoners is against te Geneva Convention, right?




But I wouldnt mind a French/Polish/Eritrean resistance force  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: BaskaBommi on 06-01-2013, 17:01:42
Maybe it's a type of map that allies have to escape Malmedy with no weapons or ammo? That would be an interesting map.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F5-kvyMFTQ
Ugh! I didn't even get the point on No Russian and I don't get it again.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 06-01-2013, 18:01:26
Maybe that Stavelot church static is for another map? Somewhere near Malemdy, but not Malmedy. It seemed highly unlikely to get a map about Malmedy.

EDIT: Stavelot deleted from list until further information.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 06-01-2013, 19:01:01
But I wouldnt mind a French/Polish/Eritrean resistance force  ;D
out of FH2 prority

EDIT: Stavelot deleted from list until further information.
you can delete half of that list as well :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Lightning on 06-01-2013, 19:01:29
Maybe that Stavelot church static is for another map? Somewhere near Malemdy, but not Malmedy. It seemed highly unlikely to get a map about Malmedy.

EDIT: Stavelot deleted from list until further information.
Stavelot is a town near Malmedy, but not Malmedy. Kampfgruppe Peiper's route runs through it. A US engineer battalion and tank destroyer battalion attempted to prevent the Germans from crossing the bridge over the Amblève river there.

Stavelot was not the scene of the Malmedy massacre. Malmedy was the scene of the Malmedy massacre (duh?). (Actually, it's a T-section just outside of Malmedy.) The civilians massacred at Stavelot is a separate incident.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: hyperanthropos on 13-01-2013, 13:01:06
Look what I've found on the interwebz site of one of the devs:

(http://s3images.coroflot.com/user_files/individual_files/461638_EETrXMfSDLbsU4uvlk2vDLhnc.jpg)
(http://s3images.coroflot.com/user_files/individual_files/461638_y3Me2qKSjXt2Oek_WHo6eD9zh.jpg)

French airplane Morane-Saulnier!  :D Is this a signal?

About this I am quite irritated now wasent that exact moddel shown some days after it had been shown here in the moddb page of french hope??? But I cant find it there anymore. Did they maybe rease something, but the devs didnt want it to released or is it rather not the work of the devs, but the work of the french hope team?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: CptdeS35 on 13-01-2013, 14:01:01
No, i deleted it since Herc is doing planes for fun. I don't know the state of this plane (playable, etc...) and i think that i must not post some (de) stuff not added to FH2 yet. That's not my property, also I don't wanna give misleading hope.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 13-01-2013, 14:01:47
About this I am quite irritated now wasent that exact moddel shown some days after it had been shown here in the moddb page of french hope??? But I cant find it there anymore. Did they maybe rease something, but the devs didnt want it to released or is it rather not the work of the devs, but the work of the french hope team?
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/161/549/1313206799001.png)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 13-01-2013, 14:01:49
I found the plane on Herc's website's "private projects" page, but there was also a civilian version of Hawker-Hardy, which was also written that it found its place in the mod, as the bomber in keren. Who knows, maybe some day we will get this for the Frenchies?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: CptdeS35 on 13-01-2013, 16:01:28
I hope so.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 13-01-2013, 17:01:39
Im sure. No FH is complete without the French!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: DaWorg! on 14-01-2013, 15:01:14
Maybe next patch is about Battle of France and that russian stuff in news updates is just decoy?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LuckyOne on 14-01-2013, 15:01:11
Maybe next patch is about Battle of France and that russian stuff in news updates is just decoy?

The cake Eastern Front is a lie!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 14-01-2013, 16:01:20
*Loads shotgun* No FH2 devs are getting out of here untill it gets at least to pacific!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: th_battleaxe on 14-01-2013, 18:01:19
*Loads shotgun* No FH2 devs are getting out of here untill it gets at least to pacific!

Bad idea.

Theta once sent the devs into the desert...he got banned when it hurt him most, at the release of the Churchill III.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 14-01-2013, 18:01:30
*drops shotgun* No offense people! Go chill out devs
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MaJ.P.Bouras on 25-01-2013, 13:01:03
Dude you are a master spammer, just saying....
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 25-01-2013, 13:01:15
Argh, spam bot again! Why do I fall to this everytime?!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: BaskaBommi on 30-01-2013, 17:01:50
You fall pretty easilly.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 30-01-2013, 17:01:45
I do, I must admit.  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 30-01-2013, 17:01:07
He is following in the footsteps of his ancestors, who were once heard proclaiming: "Oh what a nice wooden horse! Open the gates!"
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 30-01-2013, 18:01:38
Im not from Troia?  ???
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: RAnDOOm on 30-01-2013, 18:01:23
Im not from Troia?  ???

(http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111107003558/runescape/images/1/1f/Emoticon-Facepalm.gif)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjLgekyOZA0
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 30-01-2013, 18:01:07
Now listen carefully people. You can call me an idiot, dork, stupid, chicken.... You can claim that I am a barbarian, muslim terrorist, intruder, enemy of everything etc.... but noone insults my ancestors!  Not gonna make this an off-topic discussion, lets finish this here and please stop this constant abuse, will you? >:(
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 30-01-2013, 21:01:25
Anyways....       Back to topic: Test Map "P" was spotted last week. Will it go all the way to Test Map "Z"?"  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 30-01-2013, 21:01:57
Prokhorovka?  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 30-01-2013, 21:01:42
Prokhorovka?  ;D
Nah, we only have three testmaps now: M, A and P.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 30-01-2013, 21:01:25
Testmap A is best Testmap  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Alakazou on 30-01-2013, 21:01:21
Testmap A is best Testmap  ;D

Hahahaha
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 31-01-2013, 00:01:29
I disagree! I love M, A + P equally!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 31-01-2013, 00:01:00
I hope after the maps will be revealed you can tell us which one was "A". What kind of map is far more superior and better than the others?  :-X
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 31-01-2013, 00:01:51
I hope after the maps will be revealed you can tell us which one was "A". What kind of map is far more superior and better than the others?  :-X

I was just kidding. It is a map I made, hence my enthusiastic review.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Alakazou on 31-01-2013, 00:01:04
I disagree! I love M, A + P equally!

I prefer M and P. A isn't bad but I'll wait
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TASSER on 31-01-2013, 00:01:03
Here's a REAL conspiracy for you:

There are three confirmed test maps. In alphabetical order they read A, M, and P. This leads to two theories: One is that there are possibly 14 test maps in development. If the code letter is assigned alphabeticaly, and P being the 16th letter in the English alphabet, there are 11 other maps yet to be officially acknowledged!

I however believe the code of the test maps is leading us towards something much darker and more sinister... The FH2 Development team has paired with the American Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), and is being funded by a black operations branch within the agency to produce the mod. What's their agenda? The secret lies deep within the industrial-military complex, where elite world bankers are secretly dictating the progression of world politics... You want PROOF? It's right in front of you eyes... This FHer has successfully broken the code, and in fact, the truth is more terrifyingly simple than you are willing to comprehend.

BE ALARMED. What I am about to reveal to you will shake the very foundation of your beliefs. If you take the three letters of the test maps: A, M, and P, and restructure the order of the first two letters they read: M A P. That's right, map. Simple no? BUT THATS NOT EVEN THE BEGINNING OF IT. What could the Devs be saying to us? Are they in fact being forced to mod against their own will? Is this their way of communicating to us? Is this the beginning to an even longer code? What if the next testmap to be revealed is Z? MAPZ? The humorous spelling of "Maps" can only mean one thing... What else has a Z in it? You're right. Nazi. The Dev team is being held hostage by a renegade group of Nazis who are forcing them to continue to develop the Mod!

Now quick! Hide yourselves away in the basement and play FH2! It's the only way you can help the Devs! I am likely already doomed for exposing the dark inner workings of the Dev team. I'm holed up in a remote location with an arsenal of American flags, Russian bears, British bagpipes, Canadian maple syrup, a single French baugette, and half an Italian Lasagna ready to fend off the sinister Nazis. Why? Because those items beat the Nazis back in 1945 and the fate of the free world sure as hell depends on them now... (Well actually the French baugette isn't really good for much, it'll be stale in a day or so. And the Italians only sent half a lasagna, other half went to Germany before they changed their minds).

Sooo yeah... Bottom line here is that I thought it was funny how they spell map. Thanks for reading.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 31-01-2013, 01:01:10
LOL  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 31-01-2013, 01:01:34
"This is a quite stupid approach"

Like Turkishcommando, maybe the test map letters are the beginning letter of the map name, you know:
Test Map Pegasus Bridge
Test Map Mont Ormel
Test Map A...

Yeah, I'm not doing this right...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 31-01-2013, 01:01:23
I just checked and we dont even have a testmap M.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TASSER on 31-01-2013, 01:01:39
The conspiracy thickens... Don't listen to him, it's just misinformation. They're trying to lead us away from the truth.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: CHRISTIEFRONTDRIVE on 31-01-2013, 02:01:07
But who shot Kennedy?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: BaskaBommi on 31-01-2013, 07:01:30
But who shot Kennedy?
Lee Harvey Oswald. There is no questioning. It was naturally Oswald. You cannot draw CIA or Mafia into it. It was Oswald. If you think anybody else the you are wrong. It was Oswald.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Steel_Lion_FIN on 31-01-2013, 07:01:06
But who shot Kennedy?
There is only one man here who has the aim(bott)ing skills to make that shot..

And he's DAzLAYER.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Musti on 31-01-2013, 15:01:20
There is only one man here who has the aim(bott)ing skills to make that shot..

And he's DAzLAYER.
IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW! holey shiiit!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mayhemic.MAD on 31-01-2013, 17:01:04
Best topic on this Forum  ;D

So anyway, why are you guys not talking about Testmap I ?
One of my favourites ^^
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 31-01-2013, 17:01:39
Best topic on this Forum  ;D

So anyway, why are you guys not talking about Testmap I ?
One of my favourites ^^

What do we know about testmap I right now guys?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: th_battleaxe on 31-01-2013, 17:01:10
Following pizzaz's logic, testmap I could be either something with "Italy" or "Invasion" in it. Or it could be.........Inthala...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 31-01-2013, 18:01:26
Following pizzaz's logic, testmap I could be either something with "Italy" or "Invasion" in it.

question to devs: Does the name of the testmap actually be a part of the concept of the map, or are we struggling for nothing?

Or it could be.........Inthala...

Inthala sounds like something indian... You mean an early test map for pacific?  :o
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 31-01-2013, 18:01:38
The battle of Inhantala was in Finland.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 31-01-2013, 18:01:18
LOL xD epic fail! I should've googled it.  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 31-01-2013, 18:01:14
Ihantala, you bloody muppets.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: sheikyerbouti on 31-01-2013, 18:01:17
 The Muppets have no clue where ihantala is,




 But they might have googled the location and battle if the Dev team saw fit to actually put a real name to the maps that they are testing. It would definitely pique Ms. Piggy's interest as a potential destination for her and Kermie's next vacation. For sure, Animal and the band would love to check it out because they would definitely rock out hard in a place like Finland with its' national affinity to the heavier side of music.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 31-01-2013, 18:01:27
I... buh... err...

Cocaine's a helluva drug...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: sheikyerbouti on 31-01-2013, 19:01:01
I... buh... err...

Cocaine's a helluva drug...

 Now you are mixing your quotes up (call us Muppets and then you bring up Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas).

 You should already know that the Jim Henson puppets have mostly been opposed to drugs, provided of course that Sesame Street was translated into your language.

 I should add that Beaker and the Doctor probably knew about Finland but they were too busy in the Lab cooking up some science.

 And of course, one cannot forget the Swedish Chef (who obviously knows about his neighbours) but nobody can understand him in the first place.


 Hurdy-hurdy-hurrrr, Mork, Mork, Mork, Mork, Mork !!!!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 31-01-2013, 20:01:37
youtube.com/watch?v=NVWXFbDjahU
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: th_battleaxe on 31-01-2013, 20:01:09
Ihantala, you bloody muppets.

Sorry, didn't bother to google. Mea Culpa, Flippy.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: sheikyerbouti on 31-01-2013, 20:01:21
youtube.com/watch?v=NVWXFbDjahU

 I raise you with    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCbuRA_D3KU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCbuRA_D3KU)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 31-01-2013, 21:01:16
So...

These are the test maps we know so far: (there could be more)
-Test Map A (Ts4EVER's amazing map)
-Test Map AA
-Test Map B
-Test Map C
-Test Map D
-Test Map E
-Test Map F (Finland map)
-Test Map H
-Test Map I
-Test Map M (unknown if real)
-Test Map P

Any more to that list?  :-*
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 31-01-2013, 21:01:19
There is a testmap D.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 31-01-2013, 21:01:49
There is a testmap D.

*Fixed
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 31-01-2013, 21:01:14
But we shouldnt be this confident on every testmap being a new map. Some might be shooting ranges, vehicle test areas and stuff like that (correct me if Im wrong)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 31-01-2013, 21:01:29
Also, there is no testmap F and we ahve two testmap Hs.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 31-01-2013, 21:01:26
I'm not sure if I can trust you on this...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 31-01-2013, 21:01:29
I'm not sure if I can trust you on this...

It's actually true, I just checked. Probably an oversight by Kev. That's also why some letters aren't taken.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 01-02-2013, 02:02:50
 Getting close to 7 months since last release.

 How long have all these test maps been visible/in-development ?

 Could we be looking at "several" Eastern Front maps being developed?


 :-\
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Wulfburk on 01-02-2013, 02:02:39
I didnt knew there were that many test maps.... i hope there are some market garden and/or italian campaign maps in there, like the last release there is no reason to have one theatre per update. (last update brought a north africa map, east africa map and a bulge map...)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Leopardi on 01-02-2013, 15:02:54
So...

These are the test maps we know so far: (there could be more)
-Test Map A (Ts4EVER's amazing map)
-Test Map AA
-Test Map B
-Test Map C
-Test Map D
-Test Map E
-Test Map F (Finland map)
-Test Map H
-Test Map I
-Test Map M (unknown if real)
-Test Map P

Any more to that list?  :-*
M doesn't exist.

E and I are the best.  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Chad1992 on 01-02-2013, 18:02:44
Im hoping for atleast one good Finland map.  If I was to guess the realeased maps I would guess 3 from the Eastern front (one dealing with the Finns) and 2 from the other theatres.  I'd really like to see some Italian campaign maps aswell but its unlikely.  :-\  What the odds of the devs using maps from campaigns? Like from WAW or Forgotten Honor?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LuckyOne on 01-02-2013, 18:02:06
Im hoping for atleast one good Finland map.  If I was to guess the realeased maps I would guess 3 from the Eastern front (one dealing with the Finns) and 2 from the other theatres.  I'd really like to see some Italian campaign maps aswell but its unlikely.  :-\  What the odds of the devs using maps from campaigns? Like from WAW or Forgotten Honor?

I'd say slim... The only campaign map that made it in IIRC is Mount Olympus and it's still despised by many public players...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 01-02-2013, 18:02:30
If the tournaments would send the devs a finished map with a clear design, no BF2 statics and a short post about the design and why it's good, then the chances are very good.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Lightning on 01-02-2013, 20:02:49
Villers Bocage was also a tournament map.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 01-02-2013, 20:02:12
St.Lo too (?).
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 01-02-2013, 20:02:14
Salerno and Diadem (with a bit of improvements) are FH2 standarts too IMO
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 01-02-2013, 20:02:41
Salerno and Diadem (with a bit of improvements) are FH2 standarts too IMO

Those would still require a whole new set of Italian statics. Iirc the Devs have said that they wont include maps without proper theater specific statics to match. Even to the extent that Market Garden Maps would need Dutch houses.

Unless the Devs have been stockpiling Italian houses I don't think they'll be included that easily.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 01-02-2013, 21:02:46
but the campaign already had italian houses?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 01-02-2013, 22:02:02
FH1 ports?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 01-02-2013, 22:02:06
Dont know.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: 0utlaw on 01-02-2013, 23:02:44
You guys do realize that no map needs to be accepted by the fh2 devs and implemented into fh2 in order to be played on a public server? So im not sure what all the fuss is about for the devs to accept maps or not. They are allowed to set any standards for their mod when accepting content. Find all the maps you enjoy and maintain a fh2 server, its really that simple.

 ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 01-02-2013, 23:02:58
Yeah then you can sit on your server alone and marvel at the maps. Outside of events custom maps usually have little shelf life.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 01-02-2013, 23:02:29
If custom maps were good enough people would download them and play as regulars if any popular server would only have them in its rotation. Unfortunately, most of them isn't good enough so I can't understand all this bitching about implementing them.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: 0utlaw on 01-02-2013, 23:02:13
Yeah then you can sit on your server alone and marvel at the maps. Outside of events custom maps usually have little shelf life.

Well with that type of mindset and attitude, yes... i would agree. However, all one would really need to do is gather the better custom maps mixed on a server with the more popular fh2 maps. Then have players interested enough to download those custom maps. Although WaW does events and during the campaigns use a private server, i have yet to play much of, if any of the standard Fh2 maps over there. Yet every custom map battle is a blast. It is possible, although highly improbable.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MaJ.P.Bouras on 01-02-2013, 23:02:35
Olympus was a custom map....
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 01-02-2013, 23:02:01
Yeah, I've seen so little amount of custom maps actually be played publicly (which is Stonne, Warsaw Uprising, tournament maps) and thats what makes SP for custom maps so important to me.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Wulfburk on 02-02-2013, 02:02:08
Quote
If custom maps were good enough people would download them and play as regulars if any popular server would only have them in its rotation. Unfortunately, most of them isn't good enough so I can't understand all this bitching about implementing them.

Really? So please answer me, did that happen with the custom maps that were officialy implemented in the mod? Did people play it as regulars in the servers BEFORE they were implemented?

FH2 devs gotta be more open minded... It is just like that guy that suggested to change the Menu FH2 video to another one, and a dev/beta tester said the movie sucked and it would give false propaganda to the players cause it had ships, did he ever dared to look at the CURRENT fh2 menu video that has submarines, ships, strategic bombers...

The Stonne map for instance is great, and with just a little optimization it would be FH2 dev standards i think. Warsaw uprising could use a little changes, specially to the crazy house placement.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: sheikyerbouti on 02-02-2013, 03:02:42
 The problem is with the Dev team and not the players.

 We are far more forgiving and much more open-minded than we get credit for. Outlaw's map ports kick ass, the tournament maps have some real gems and even the odd fan contribution should be inplemented.


 we deserve better treatment than the verbal diarhea that we get from such mod ambassador's as Jan "bla-bla, you all suck" Kurator and his ilk.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: CptdeS35 on 02-02-2013, 14:02:48
Some of you gonna have a bad time  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Lightning on 02-02-2013, 14:02:32
I don't see why the devs should feel obligated to add anything. It's their mod. You make your own mod and you can add whatever maps you like...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 02-02-2013, 14:02:46
Yeah, I was about to write what Lightning did, also:
we deserve better treatment than the verbal diarhea that we get from such mod ambassador's as Jan "bla-bla, you all suck" Kurator and his ilk.
My PR duties covered providing you ingame screenshots of new maps and vehicles. I'm not a propaganda guy in any way so I have no reason to lie to you, hence so many "you suck" posts.

Remember one thing, if we would have so open minded devs who don't take so much care about details and high standards this mod would be dead a long time ago. It's a little bit like with religion, you know: "opened church is a church from which everyone will run away" according to one of polish sayings. If we won't stick to high standard there won't be anything special about FH2, especially when you face the fact how old this engine is and how limited it is comparing to new games.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: titsmcgee852 on 02-02-2013, 15:02:09
Have to agree on that last point, though I think there is room for leniency in some cases. There are some killer custom maps going round, in particular the Italian maps.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: BaskaBommi on 02-02-2013, 15:02:01
Well, we do need an Italian front in game. FH and WaW Italy-maps kick ass, although thier looks aren't as polished as in stock maps. (First bank of Libya in middle of Salerno?)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Steel_Lion_FIN on 02-02-2013, 15:02:34
Adding custom maps would require the maps to have a trule amazing quality and attention to detail in order to avoid situations like mentioned by Baskabommi. It's their mod, and we should be happy about the fact that it even exists. Remember, these guys use mostly their free time and don't get paid at all for doing this. And there is a lot of pressure on the devs by the community to get shit done, so it's obvius that tensions get high. So leave the devs the fuck alone and let them work at their pace in order to keep this amazing mod in high standards.

And since it's a conspiracy thread: the devs started this flame war here just to keep us occupied because we got too close to figuring out what they're up to.

My 2 cents.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 02-02-2013, 15:02:18
And since it's a conspiracy thread: the devs started this flame war here just to keep us occupied because we got too close to figuring out what they're up to.

My 2 cents.

I don't think we are any close to figuring out anything.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 02-02-2013, 16:02:00
And since it's a conspiracy thread: the devs started this flame war here just to keep us occupied because we got too close to figuring out what they're up to.

I don't think we are any close to figuring out anything.
one of you is dangerously close to the truth
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Thorondor123 on 02-02-2013, 17:02:39
Lightning is actually the ultimate Kwisatz Haderach. Discuss.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Chad1992 on 02-02-2013, 18:02:20
Why not just make a simply vote. There has to be a hand full of custom maps the devs would feel are up to or close enought to their standards. Say they find 8 good maps, they allow the community to vote on 4 of them they would like added to the next release.  That way the community gets new maps, and the only work the devs would possibly have would be to do a few touch ups on the maps.  The key is TO LET THE DEVS FIND THE MAPS, AND NOT HAVE THE COMMUNITY SUGGESTING TEN THOUSAND MAPS!  This will just cause the devs to say the hell with it.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LuckyOne on 02-02-2013, 18:02:42
The thing is "a few touch ups" soon become a full "run of the mill" in terms of time taken to fix all the issues of a map... So they might as well make their own ones and be sure not to make "beginner mistakes" most inexperienced custom mappers tend to make...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 02-02-2013, 23:02:37
Community always get new maps each release because devs are working hard on making them all the time also they've already found their custom maps but they're making "few touch ups" internal. No need to vote here.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 03-02-2013, 15:02:37
Lightning is actually the ultimate Kwisatz Haderach. Discuss.

 Clever.....i had to break out my reference book on that one


 :-*
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 03-02-2013, 21:02:22
Is Cpt. Bocquier a betatester? Because he is playing on Testmap A with other betatesters.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Aggroman on 03-02-2013, 21:02:43
Who actually cares?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 03-02-2013, 21:02:05
Hey, this is the conspiracy thread. It might lead to something  :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Pejsaty on 03-02-2013, 22:02:12
Problem is that FH1 had many custom mappacks. FH2 doesnt have any... FH2 has something like ~20 maps where 10 of them are server killers/unplayable and other 10 are simply overplayed. You jump on the server you play the same maps at the same time each day... And when the server reaches the fifth map, it crashes and all "fun" starts from the beginning... In FH1 times you could jump on the server and play different maps EACH evening... People are simply getting quickly bored and stops playing it...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: CologneSky on 03-02-2013, 22:02:07
Problem is that FH1 had many custom mappacks. FH2 doesnt have any... FH2 has something like ~20 maps where 10 of them are server killers/unplayable and other 10 are simply overplayed. You jump on the server you play the same maps at the same time each day... And when the server reaches the fifth map, it crashes and all "fun" starts from the beginning... In FH1 times you could jump on the server and play different maps EACH evening... People are simply getting quickly bored and stops playing it...

maybe just go to the FH page and count (!) the maps before posting such BS. thx!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 03-02-2013, 22:02:39
FH2 has 38 maps.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Pejsaty on 03-02-2013, 22:02:07
And FH1 with custom map packs has over 100...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 03-02-2013, 22:02:11
Go play FH1 then?

What's the problem, the devs are working as hard as they can, the mod is great, the people are (mostly) awesome so I don't see a big problem....anywhere?

I mean surely FH2 isn't living it's full potential (which would mean at least 2x more developers and 4x the player base), but as it is now I think it's far from "objectable", if it's such a problem that there simply aren't 100 available maps, why don't you start making them yourself? Or get in touch with the guys from the "modding" boards and make something nice which will be accepted and implemented?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LuckyOne on 03-02-2013, 22:02:05
The only problem is 762 and their "random" map rotation... If it's random, how come I always play the same maps there?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Pejsaty on 03-02-2013, 22:02:07
The problem is why devs don't want to release custom map packs?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Alakazou on 03-02-2013, 22:02:55
Because most of the custom map suck >:( and it take time to make them good enough. ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Pejsaty on 03-02-2013, 22:02:59
Really? So tell me what custom maps have you already played? 2 or 3?

Edit: and suck in what way?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 03-02-2013, 23:02:19
Is Cpt. Bocquier a betatester? Because he is playing on Testmap A with other betatesters.
Hey, this is the conspiracy thread. It might lead to something  :)
have you heard about FH2 open beta? I haven't, so what lead are you talking about? IMHO you've just answered your question.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 03-02-2013, 23:02:25
I meant some interesting topic might come up.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 03-02-2013, 23:02:03
Really? So tell me what custom maps have you already played? 2 or 3?

Edit: and suck in what way?
I played most of the custom nontournament maps and they suck in many ways. In some cases these are gameplay wise issues or basic desing problems (by looking on some maps you can easily see that some mappers didn't even have a good idea when they started) Non logical static placement and lack of details are the most common problems, many bugs, lack of historical accuracy (even if it is possible to get without map specific content like statics and vehicles) balance issues etc, etc. It's hard to write about all maps together - some are made of pure fail and some are quite good, but even the best maps are about 80% finished when you consider amount of work needed to polish them. Small issues mean that devs would need to spent time on bringing them to FH2 quality, no one have time to do so and original mappers usually aren't interested in finishing their maps or just don't cooperate. When it comes to tournament maps, they can be great but only on tournaments where gameplay is completely diffrenet than public play.


Also: I found funny that most of custom map lovers usually play on low details and they bitching about implementing them when they can't even see difference between good quality map and shit (good graphics is one of aspects which make FH2 unique)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: sheikyerbouti on 04-02-2013, 00:02:33
 Lots of the tournament maps are of the same calibre of gameplay (if not way better) than anything Fh2 has officially released. In addition, some of the maps we enjoy were created by pubbies (like Schism-RTVL).

 World at War and Forgotten Honor have long put out material that plays well, looks great and has sufficient 'detail' to provide immersive sensation. Their gameplay does not require tournament participation and the 2 tournaments, apart from bolstering a weak fan base, have also contributed ideas to the mod that prove (without any doubt) that Fh2 still has a long way to go, in terms of the maps, statics and theatres that the entire FH2 fanbase could enjoy.

eg: Fh1 map ports, Italian theatre, French Hope mod, NAVAL WARFARE!!!, static and vehicle ports from FH1 (proof of concept courtesy of RAD), etc.


 The biggest argument that is raised is the red herring of "Fh2 quality", what exactly is Fh2 quality when the Dev team has constantly changed members over the years. Was it Lobo or Rad's quality? Was it Natty, Gunnie or Azrael's? Mr. Cheese, Benseras, Ts4, DarkPepe, or Snoox's? I could continue ad nauseam.

The greatest issue to having public submissions accepted would be to actually provide a public overview and a set of expectations so that all potential contributor's could actually participate, which is contradictory to the Fh2 practice of protecting all materials from public release in order to prevent speculation. By not being transparent in their goals and desires, we the fanbase are left to speculate, when we could have mobilized our skillsets to contribute  (an example would be to hold public competition for certain items like houses, vegetation or minor environmental objects.)

 To all of those who question the development process, we must bear in mind that FH2 doesn't even test full servers and their Beta test group is far too small and over-populated by nepotism. Bear that in mind when we are given limited opinions from a very small group that dominates the conversation by being so-called 'experts'.

 Tons of us would love to be testers but one must be invited, so if you don't belong to an elite cadre, you are shit out of luck regardless of the opinions, skills and professionalism that we could actually provide.  (for example, I have professional experience as a game tester on 4 released titles with 2 separate studio's yet my past requests to contribute to the team have all fallen on deaf ears.)

 Russia was announced years ago, but nothing yet...  Finland has been promised, but nothing yet... a French team mobilized, but was shot dead...  Pacific theatre is never to be...


 How hard would it be to actually ask for help one of these days?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 04-02-2013, 00:02:12
You can always apply for a beta tester but with you attitude you won't become a one. Are you aware of that? Probably yes, because I can see thick butthurt spilling out of every of your posts. I would be really happy to see you in the team because you would finally learn something and shut the fuck up. Normall person can't be wrong in so many aspects in one post and try to look like a smartass at the same time.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Pejsaty on 04-02-2013, 00:02:07
Really? So tell me what custom maps have you already played? 2 or 3?

Edit: and suck in what way?
I played most of the custom nontournament maps and they suck in many ways. In some cases these are gameplay wise issues or basic desing problems (by looking on some maps you can easily see that some mappers didn't even have a good idea when they started) Non logical static placement and lack of details are the most common problems, many bugs, lack of historical accuracy (even if it is possible to get without map specific content like statics and vehicles) balance issues etc, etc. It's hard to write about all maps together - some are made of pure fail and some are quite good, but even the best maps are about 80% finished when you consider amount of work needed to polish them. Small issues mean that devs would need to spent time on bringing them to FH2 quality, no one have time to do so and original mappers usually aren't interested in finishing their maps or just don't cooperate. When it comes to tournament maps, they can be great but only on tournaments where gameplay is completely diffrenet than public play.


Also: I found funny that most of custom map lovers usually play on low details and they bitching about implementing them when they can't even see difference between good quality map and shit (good graphics is one of aspects which make FH2 unique)

If I only looked at graphics aspect I would play BF3... Many custom maps have better gameplay than these which are already in game... If you don't release new maps soon, this mod will die, which already is happening...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: CptdeS35 on 04-02-2013, 12:02:32
Who actually cares?
True.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Chad1992 on 04-02-2013, 15:02:15
I have to admit the defense is kinda weak.  :-\ The reason for no custom maps i hear is the lack of detail and historical accuracy. I gotta ask when your playing the the game do you really take the time to stop and look at the details?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: McCloskey on 04-02-2013, 15:02:15
I have to admit the defense is kinda weak.  :-\ The reason for no custom maps i hear is the lack of detail and historical accuracy. I gotta ask when your playing the the game do you really take the time to stop and look at the details?

facepalm'd. you don't really notice the details, that's why it's called details. but if they aren't there, you WILL notice they are missing. it's like audio in movies, there's millions of various sounds your ears take for granted so they have to be in there even though you focus mainly on the video, because it they aren't, the movie sucks... and I'll take quality over quantity any day when it comes to maps, some of the tournament maps are just so bad I can't force myself to play more than a couple of rounds on them anymore because when you take the details out, you have crap.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Chad1992 on 04-02-2013, 17:02:18
Well this is how i see it.  Mapping is the hardest and longest process for the devs.  And there is a community out there willing to help, but their help is turned down do to their skill level.  If I had mapping skills I wouldnt try because I know my maps wouldn't get in.  If I was a dev I would encourage newbies to keep trying, even using their maps just to give them courage.  There are several maps in the game that have been worked, reworked and re-reworked and some still aren't perfect.  If the devs want this game to stay alive there gonna have to help the new guys.  The devs were not born master mappers and modders.  You never know you may pick up a new mapper or two and then they have a buddy whos starting to model and what do you know your numbers are growing.

To the devs, I don't mean to offend anyone, I'm simply saying what i feel.  Your doing a great job and I hope you stay with it, even with the community breathing down your neck.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 04-02-2013, 19:02:26
 The Devs have made some shitty maps themselves.....

-Seige Of Tobruk
-Aberdeen
-Hurtgen Forest
-Gazala
-Alam Halfa
-Ramelle Neuville
(mostly africa maps)

and some great ones......

- St. Lo. Breakthrough
- Eppledorf
- Purple Heart Lane
- Bastogne
- Port en Bessin

 I could map in BF1942, but BF2 mapping is a whole different animal. I just cant do it.

 but i agree with Chad.....more maps are needed & if the Devs look at a custom mapper & require them to meet the current mapping standards to even be considered, then finding more help will be very difficult.



 8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Surfbird on 04-02-2013, 19:02:11
Ah, about those shitty maps...Of course the earlier North Africa maps are kinda simple and have different gameplay than the latest maps. But it's an developement and I sometimes enjoy this simplicity very much. I don't think that Gazala, Siege of Tobruk, El Alamein and Alam Halfa are bad maps for example.

The way I have fun on those maps differs a lot from most other maps though. Nothing better than sitting in Alam Halfa crater after placing mines, with tanks just on top of you. But I know other people feel totally different about this and that's fine.

About this custom map discussion:

Generally, mappers in the community should not be discouraged on the one hand, but jan_kurator was right when he said, that many of them are too confident about their work. I mean, it's their maps,
they are free to do what they want. But neither they, nor the community should expect the maps to be in the mod then. I don't think there are that many people that really want their map in the mod and are willing to sacrifice certain features to make it eventually happen.

Anyway, if someone is really coming up with a serious attempt to get a map in the mod, it's the devs that should look if it has potential and work together with that person in order to bring the map in the mod. Give tips, feedback, things that are obligatory to be fixed/changed etc. I doubt someone who does not know the standards exactly is able to make a map that exactly has what the devs want.

So, cooperation with open minded mappers that know how to map is the way to bring maps in the mod. Custom maps are great for tournaments as it's fun to play something different. They also fit there because of other playstyle in tournaments but would do a lot worse in public games.

Because creating good maps for public games is what the intention of the FH2 devs is, they set the standard there. They have shown that they are good at it and in the end I also want to have quality maps in the mod, not half-worked out custom maps. What's needed from the devs is, that they are willing to give feedback and share their knowledge and I doubt they deny that when someone comes up who is open-minded and has potential in him and in the basic map idea.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 04-02-2013, 20:02:21
Anyway, if someone is really coming up with a serious attempt to get a map in the mod, it's the devs that should look if it has potential and work together with that person in order to bring the map in the mod. Give tips, feedback, things that are obligatory to be fixed/changed etc. I doubt someone who does not know the standards exactly is able to make a map that exactly has what the devs want.
all you need is to apply for a mapper position
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 04-02-2013, 21:02:07
Did I say it wasn't? It just haven't been used so much in Afrcia and we don't (won't) have pacific and italy front, that's the case and that was my point. And why should I compare group as a whole when we have maps with americans only in normandy and bulge, except sidi bou zid, which has it's own vehicle setup?

Foy? where?
in Battle of Bulge

On the test server
Maybe it was but there is no Foy I know about atm. I think that limit of Ardennes map is reached.

So then, what the hell are we recieving in next patch besides Normandy?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 04-02-2013, 21:02:07
From august 2012 news archive:
Quote
In other news, we are still working hard to get the Eastern Front ready, and you should expect to see some more Soviet and German equipment from that theatre in the news. But we might also have a few other surprises before the Eastern Front patch. Keep a look out for some new scenarios and content in our current theatres.

I see more Western Front.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 04-02-2013, 21:02:49
I see more Western Front.
I don't thing so. You won't guess what's coming
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 04-02-2013, 21:02:25
I see more Western Front.
I don't thing so. You won't guess what's coming
I bet Pegasus Bridge is coming..because why did the devs make the Airspeed Horsa (which was basically use in that battle, in real life)..i could see the Churchill AVRE in Pegasus. The French could come too though  :D

But i could be very wrong  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 04-02-2013, 21:02:38
I see more Western Front.
I don't thing so. You won't guess what's coming

Early blitzkrieg? Campaign on Easter islands? Nazi moon project? FH2142? LOL you're right I cant guess.  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 04-02-2013, 21:02:20
Churchill AVRE on Pegasus?

But i could be very wrong  ;D
yes, you are very wrong

Horsa was made few years ago and we still don't have Pegasus Bridge ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: THeTA0123 on 04-02-2013, 22:02:56
AVRE was used at the landing of gold beach, operation epsom and the initial assault on caen. They were used in support for the Second army.

The AVRE saw great use in the battle of the scheldt being the 1 Assault Brigade and Assault Park Squadron. Aswel as Ostend and Le havre.

The AVRE was again used during Operation Varsity, during the crossing of the Rhine river  were it lay waste to many german defensive positions aswel as providing other support the AVRE was supposed to do, like providing Bangalore torpedos.

Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 04-02-2013, 22:02:53
thank you for sharing this information
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 05-02-2013, 02:02:17
Remember guys,
Never trust the ones who test new maps. They might spill misleading information.  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Wulfburk on 05-02-2013, 05:02:04
That is why i still have hope of seing a Italian front. Besides the burma and china fronts it is the least portrayed in games and movies. (Well so are the 1939-1940 fronts)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 05-02-2013, 10:02:31
Yeah, they are probably trying to lead us away from the truth.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: CptdeS35 on 05-02-2013, 14:02:31
Also you got french cambodgian war and japanese invasion of indochina !
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 05-02-2013, 15:02:24
It would be so awesome if the devs add the "Invasion of Sicily" or Operation Husky (as in bf1942) :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: RAnDOOm on 05-02-2013, 15:02:24
It would be so awesome if the devs add the "Invasion of Sicily" or Operation Husky (as in bf1942) :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeKIekWQicg

 ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 05-02-2013, 16:02:24
It would be so awesome if the devs add the "Invasion of Sicily" or Operation Husky (as in bf1942) :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeKIekWQicg

 ;D

Where can I download this?!  :o
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LuckyOne on 05-02-2013, 17:02:10

Where can I download this?!  :o

That seems quite old, judging by the mini-map (2.15, 2.25?) but I'm pretty sure the map is still played in FHT. Why not sign up? You seem to be having too much free time anyway...
If you can speak and understand basic english you should be fine...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 05-02-2013, 17:02:48

Where can I download this?!  :o

That seems quite old, judging by the mini-map (2.15, 2.25?) but I'm pretty sure the map is still played in FHT. Why not sign up? You seem to be having too much free time anyway...
If you can speak and understand basic english you should be fine...


I would, but I've got no mic and no TS3...  :-[
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LuckyOne on 05-02-2013, 17:02:40
I would, but I've got no mic and no TS3...  :-[
Well it's not that a mic/headset is that expensive... I got a crappy one I got for birthday present (some no-name brand worth approximately 1.99$) like 6 years ago and it's just fine for the tournament... I'm not used to chit-chat so it's ok for the few acknowledgments and contacts you have to report during a tournament, and the few jokes you make while sitting in a ditch for 15 minutes with no action on your designated flag....
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Aggroman on 05-02-2013, 22:02:29

Where can I download this?!  :o

That seems quite old, judging by the mini-map (2.15, 2.25?) but I'm pretty sure the map is still played in FHT. Why not sign up? You seem to be having too much free time anyway...
If you can speak and understand basic english you should be fine...


I would, but I've got no mic and no TS3...  :-[

You really should get one then, if I had more time, I still would be playing in Forgotten Honor Tournament, best "battle" feeling I've ever had in FH2 so far.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Surfbird on 05-02-2013, 23:02:19
Indeed. Current campaign is still in testing phase with Scrim 3 coming up this Friday. Next week Battle 1 of the real tournament. The custom maps played in the tournament are enjoyable and the "battle-feeling" is guaranteed. Join :)

www.forgottenhonor.com (http://www.forgottenhonor.com)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: titsmcgee852 on 06-02-2013, 06:02:30
Wish I could join tournaments but my ping is always 250+
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MaJ.P.Bouras on 06-02-2013, 08:02:10
Same as when i started, don't worry its great fun too once you get the hang of where the enemy might be after 250ms :P . Besides you can choose a supporting role like arty man.


And i had that ping because i was "borrowing" connection from a neighbour.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: titsmcgee852 on 06-02-2013, 15:02:26
I don't mind having high ping in other games, just means you have to lead a bit further, but in BF2 the game just seems to clunk really hard with high ping. Especially when looking down iron sights, or going from sprinting to walking.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TASSER on 10-02-2013, 20:02:39
A so called "Gold Beach" is on the test server right now. I bet it's a new Russian map.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 10-02-2013, 21:02:01
A so called "Gold Beach" is on the test server right now. I bet it's a new Russian map.
I love how devs troll public with map names :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 10-02-2013, 21:02:13
Little hint: take the initials of that map and think eastern front.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 10-02-2013, 21:02:32
 Sure wish there were smaller 1-2 map releases every 3-6 months instead of the marathon 14 month waiting period.....

 More Normandy maps would be good as well.



why do the Germans get all the cool toys 1st
 :-*
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TASSER on 10-02-2013, 22:02:48
Little hint: take the initials of that map and think eastern front.

Clever. And very cool. Although I wouldn't mind Gold Beach.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 11-02-2013, 00:02:27
I have 2 theories here:

1) The initials of Gold Beach are "GB". Maybe refering to "German Blitzkrieg" or "Germany,Berlin" or I am just doing this wrong.

2)
Little hint: take the initials of that map and think eastern front.
Perhaps you guys are leading us to an opposite path. "GB" could be refering to something else...   ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 11-02-2013, 00:02:40
or Gold Beach is real?!  :o
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 11-02-2013, 00:02:41
Germany, Berlin is the best you can do? Lol like there was no eastern front battle with the initials G and B.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Alakazou on 11-02-2013, 00:02:09
or Gold Beach is real?!  :o

jeez, don't mess with their heads...  >:(
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 11-02-2013, 00:02:30
Can I dream too?  :(
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: CptdeS35 on 11-02-2013, 01:02:52
Gros Bazar.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Alakazou on 11-02-2013, 01:02:49
Can I dream too?  :(

(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/232/114/e39.png)
no
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: CptdeS35 on 11-02-2013, 12:02:39
The return of the dreamcrusher.

Lightning ? You're fired ! Alakazou is faster than you now.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 11-02-2013, 16:02:35
Can I dream too?  :(
no
and that's why I hate everyone!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: BaskaBommi on 11-02-2013, 18:02:49
and that's why I hate everyone!
You are unable to be racist then?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: titsmcgee852 on 26-02-2013, 16:02:39
Can someone dig up that old picture of the Pegasus community map? I remember it looking fantastic in my mind.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 26-02-2013, 16:02:32
Can someone dig up that old picture of the Pegasus community map? I remember it looking fantastic in my mind.

Whole thread:

http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?topic=14551.0
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: titsmcgee852 on 27-02-2013, 03:02:56
Hmm I must be thinking of something else then. It was a screenshot of a day time map near a river
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 06-03-2013, 21:03:25
I was so dug deep by that Stavelot church static that I did some thinking: What map would feature Stavelot? What battle would it been? Why am I trying to figure this out? Until I found something quite plausible to be a map in FH2.
               
My guess:                                                 Trois Ponts

First, there was an actual battle there. and second, it's west of Stavelot.
(http://www.mergellandmarathon.nl/vakantie/Foto/07map_troisponts.jpg)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/Map_of_Malmedy-Stavelot_December_1944.png)


I don't know anything about that battle but this is my guess of the church static.
      Or that the devs are just trolling us
So what are your thoughts behind the church?  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 06-03-2013, 21:03:42
So some areas have specific churches? Roughest example; like in South of a country, churches are red and have a longer tower, but North, the churches are white and shorter towers?

If so, this FH2 map sounds possible.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: titsmcgee852 on 07-03-2013, 08:03:54
Wasn't there a battle in Stavelot or has Darkest Hour been lying to me the whole time?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 07-03-2013, 13:03:39
There was a battle in Stavelot. All what pizzzaman12 should do before posting was write "Stavelot" in google: "During the Battle of the Bulge in World War II, the city was the scene of severe fighting"

but he's just plain dumb
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Chad1992 on 07-03-2013, 16:03:12
but he's just plain dumb
Your so cool jan.  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 07-03-2013, 22:03:11
So if we are recieving a "Stavelot" map and Trois Ponts is just to the west of it by some miles, why wouldn't we have both towns in one map? We have had maps in the past covering more than just one battle within it. Wouldn't it be more logical and less work for the devs to group up the towns for just one big map?


Well what the hell do I care. I'm probobly chasing my own tail on this one.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: CptdeS35 on 07-03-2013, 22:03:00
Actually, remember that planning to add several villages and tpwns on one map, make you use scale, so you loose historical accuracy, and sometimes some of the things you've planned on the map don't go as you've expected, for example, the bir hakeim flag on gazala 64.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: titsmcgee852 on 08-03-2013, 05:03:25
So if we are recieving a "Stavelot" map and Trois Ponts is just to the west of it by some miles, why wouldn't we have both towns in one map? We have had maps in the past covering more than just one battle within it. Wouldn't it be more logical and less work for the devs to group up the towns for just one big map?
Well it wouldn't be less work because whoever was creating the map would only have to make one town in the one map...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 15-03-2013, 23:03:55
(http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/6813/adszmjx.jpg)

Its really a mystery when I see a moderator or a developer with this tag :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 15-03-2013, 23:03:40
That just means they are viewing a thread in the not public admin forum or using an administration function.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 15-03-2013, 23:03:45
That's something, isnt it?  :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 15-03-2013, 23:03:41
Nice Stavelot conversation btw. I will now pour further fuel into the fire by posting a photo I took not 20m away from Stavelot bridge.

(http://imageshack.us/a/img829/293/fh2009anom.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/829/fh2009anom.jpg/)

It is a monument for the battle. The pixelated guy is known around here as Strat_84.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: CHRISTIEFRONTDRIVE on 15-03-2013, 23:03:21
Nice Stavelot conversation btw. I will now pour further fuel into the fire by posting a photo I took not 20m away from Stavelot bridge.

(http://imageshack.us/a/img829/293/fh2009anom.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/829/fh2009anom.jpg/)

It is a monument for the battle. The pixelated guy is known around here as Strat_84.

I knew that was Strat because there were no women around.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LuckyOne on 26-04-2013, 21:04:45
http://www.moddb.com/mods/battlegroup42/news/battlegroup42-18-final-new-afvs

Quote
And finally, Kraetzer surprised us with a nice gift: he bequeathed to us three Japanese AFVs, which were originally created for another purpose for which they are no longer needed. They are the Ha-Go light tank, the Ho-Ki APC and the Te-Ke tankette. All three of them were already in BG42 for a long time now, but in a much worse quality. The new models however are very detailed and nicely textured.

I wonder what the original purpose was?  ::)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 26-04-2013, 21:04:08
Doesn't Kraetzer also work on Hell in the Pacific for ARMA2?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 26-04-2013, 21:04:25
Still, these look pretty FH2.

So, at first FH2 devs wanted to create the pacific, but then they saw the end is near (noo... noooo.. dont even think about it) and they gave up on pacific? According to this scenario.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 26-04-2013, 23:04:02
The devs have made many models for many fronts mostly as proof of concept iirc, there was some Pacific front stuff made to see how boats, carriers etc. would work, a French plane, Rad made Ranger player models for Operation Torch too I think. Not all of them have been used not because the devs think the end is near but other things are more practical atm. 
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 26-04-2013, 23:04:55
 I wouldn't doubt that Mr. Lightning himself has a HD full of FH2 material in locked security box......




 ....in an undisclosed location of course...
 ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TASSER on 27-04-2013, 00:04:38
I've spent many late nights staring at the stars contemplating what the future of Forgotten Hope holds and what unannounced content lies lurking in the vast expanses of cyberspace...

Partly why I love this thread!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 27-04-2013, 01:04:25
What ever happened to Mr_Cheese's "Operation Charnwood"?  ???

(http://media.moddb.com/images/members/1/206/205913/screen086.jpg)

(http://media.moddb.com/images/members/1/206/205913/140408panther_01.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 27-04-2013, 01:04:25
Never finished on account of being to big and not well planned.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 29-04-2013, 19:04:36
Do any of the devs still have a copy? Maybe if it could be released, it would be lovely to derp around.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 11-05-2013, 15:05:36
Discuss.

(http://imageshack.us/a/img24/6447/promorussian.png)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 11-05-2013, 15:05:33
HOLY DUDE! ;D
That looks like Stalingrad all right.
Is that upcoming? 8)

Especially the beautiful sky... :o
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 11-05-2013, 15:05:36
Orel!!  ;D

Too intact to be Stalinville
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 11-05-2013, 15:05:45
 :o Stunning work!

HOLY DUDE! ;D
That looks like Stalingrad all right.
Is that upcoming? 8)
Orel!!  ;D

Too intact to be Stalinville

Maybe Kharkov?

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshots/Kharkov%20Outskirts/kharkovoutskirts_8.jpg)
(FH1 Kharkov outskirts)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 11-05-2013, 15:05:41
Come to think of it, it does more look like Orel. ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LuckyOne on 11-05-2013, 15:05:52
Well since it has tram tracks, it has to be one from this list (especially those that have a note about operation being suspended because of the war) :P

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_town_tramway_systems_in_Russia
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 11-05-2013, 16:05:13
Is that upcoming? 8)

EXTREMELY upcoming.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 11-05-2013, 16:05:16
 That looks like a statue of Vladimir Lenin.

 FH 0.7 had one just like it......

 :-X
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 11-05-2013, 16:05:58
Is that upcoming? 8)

EXTREMELY upcoming.

what does that mean?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 11-05-2013, 16:05:16
Is that upcoming? 8)

EXTREMELY upcoming.

what does that mean?

Nothing in particular.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 11-05-2013, 16:05:24
Leningrad



 :-*
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 11-05-2013, 17:05:43
Budapest!  :o
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 11-05-2013, 17:05:23
Yes, because members of the Axis have all kinds of Lenin Statues standing around.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 11-05-2013, 17:05:18
(http://www.cotoznaczy.com.pl/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/facepalm-300x216.jpg)

I'm sorry.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 11-05-2013, 18:05:10
WOAH MUMA!  :o

That looks damn good! Especially that Zis-3 AT gun 8)

But I still see some Western Front statics?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 11-05-2013, 18:05:32
City statics are pretty interchangeable.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 11-05-2013, 18:05:51
Meh, I think a suburb house near an apartment doesnt look really good.  :-\
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Pejsaty on 11-05-2013, 19:05:11
Meh, I think a suburb house near an apartment doesnt look really good.  :-\

So make appropriate one...  ::)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mattitatti on 11-05-2013, 19:05:15
I would be very pleased to get an answer from the devs for a tiny question: Will the next patch come in 2013?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 11-05-2013, 19:05:57
Meh, I think a suburb house near an apartment doesnt look really good.  :-\

So make appropriate one...  ::)

Easy to say...  ::)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Pejsaty on 11-05-2013, 19:05:24
Meh, I think a suburb house near an apartment doesnt look really good.  :-\

So make appropriate one...  ::)

Easy to say...  ::)

So don't complain on such details...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 11-05-2013, 19:05:54
Hohoho, FH2 developers have created wonders in so lttle time, and you say I shouldnt complain? So we shouldnt report any bugs? U funny  ::)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Pejsaty on 11-05-2013, 19:05:02
Is it a bug that has huge impact on gameplay?

No.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 11-05-2013, 19:05:15
Floating bricks are not a huge impact on gameplay

Bad textures are not a huge impact on gameplay

A vehicle interior is not a huge impact on gameplay


Dude, a game is not only made out of gameplay, and I think FH2 should be keeping its realism. In which country you have seen a farm house in the middle of apartment complexes?  ::)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Pejsaty on 11-05-2013, 20:05:19
I can't see any farmhouse in this pic...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 11-05-2013, 20:05:34
Not really a farm house, I used the wrong word but:

(http://imageshack.us/scaled/landing/832/promorussian.png)

You know, a "suburban" house. We both know FH2 devs like their maps uber-beautiful, and this looks kinda ugly.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 11-05-2013, 20:05:22
It's a smaller apartment building.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Pejsaty on 11-05-2013, 20:05:38
You know, a "suburban" house. We both know FH2 devs like their maps uber-beautiful, and this looks kinda ugly.

So if it's ugly, they don't like their maps uber-beautiful?  ???
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 11-05-2013, 20:05:42
I hope this is just a WIP, and that building will change or move away from the apartment.

Hope so.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mattitatti on 11-05-2013, 21:05:23
Will there be any big apartments or buildings in EF? Like four story buildings.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Krätzer on 11-05-2013, 21:05:21
It´s not a Dev Map afaik :p
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 11-05-2013, 21:05:38
Is it one of Ts4EVER's custom map?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 11-05-2013, 22:05:14
It is a joint project between schism and me. Since schism is a dev, it is at least half a devmap.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 11-05-2013, 23:05:49
Third thought, it could be Kharkov Outskirts. :D
I can see that Russian flag being the main-base and that Zis AT gun as a defence gun.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 12-05-2013, 01:05:02
It is a joint project between schism and me. Since schism is a dev, it is at least half a devmap.

How many maps can Schism make at one time? Isn't he also making this map below?
(http://www.ramonvantloo.nl/blog/wp-content/uploads/new-stug.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: titsmcgee852 on 12-05-2013, 02:05:26
Man that is delicious.

Meh, I think a suburb house near an apartment doesnt look really good.  :-\
Not sure if serious. You've never seen a house near an apartment block? Either way, I don't think it looks out of place one bit.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 12-05-2013, 03:05:10
That picture with that Stug III, is a Finn Stug. I am guessing that the Russians are going to fight the Finns in that awesome map. 8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 12-05-2013, 09:05:16
Man that is delicious.

Meh, I think a suburb house near an apartment doesnt look really good.  :-\
Not sure if serious. You've never seen a house near an apartment block? Either way, I don't think it looks out of place one bit.

There are so many houses like this here around me, but that looks disgusting as fuck. I bet Russian immigrants who go from villages to farms would be clever enough to build an apartment near an apartment.

And guys, dont forget the fact that some maps can only be used as a testing ground, we cant be this sure about the map with lots of trees.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Krätzer on 12-05-2013, 13:05:03
(http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af43/BGF-Kraetzer/Tanks/MarderIIIM_Render_13copy.png~original)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 12-05-2013, 13:05:10
Oh man, that is so cool!  8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: titsmcgee852 on 12-05-2013, 13:05:19
Krätzer those are sexy and you are sexy.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 12-05-2013, 13:05:14
It is a joint project between schism and me. Since schism is a dev, it is at least half a devmap.

How many maps can Schism make at one time? Isn't he also making this map below?

I guess that is why he made the map together with me.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LuckyOne on 12-05-2013, 14:05:32
Also, does this mean that the FH 2 logo will be getting a facelift?  ::)

http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/9019/logonia.png
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 12-05-2013, 14:05:41
Where did you find that?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 12-05-2013, 15:05:34
Kratz, those are such sexy Marders. Good job 8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 13-05-2013, 23:05:39
I have gathered up some bits and scraps from around the forum to piece together into one post:
(long post ahead!)

Lets start with the maps we know for now:
================================

-As we all know, Prokhorovka is being made by Knoffhoff
http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?topic=17868.0

-We have received a mysterious image from Ts4ever two days ago of an image depicting a Lenin statue obstructing a Soviet town in the background.
(http://imageshack.us/a/img24/6447/promorussian.png)
The Lenin statue looks to be the same one from FH1:
(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshots/Kharkov%20Outskirts/kharkovoutskirts_9.jpg)

-Next we have renders of several churches that may be featured in future maps:
(http://imageshack.us/a/img515/2093/stavelot.jpg)
^Stavelot church
(http://imageshack.us/a/img196/9950/saintemereeglise.jpg)
^Ste Mere Eglise church
(http://imageshack.us/a/img38/3576/churchv.jpg)
^Foy church


-This image below shows a marvelous static depicting a certain bridge:
(http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i390/TheNissi/Unkown.jpg)

-Our last map here represents a certain battle in the Continuous War
(http://www.ramonvantloo.nl/blog/wp-content/uploads/new-stug.jpg)
(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/news/121216/stream.jpg)


Here is an updated list of maps and vehicles found in the changelog or news updates:
===============================================================
Maps found in changelog or test server:
-Stonne
-Prokhorovka
-Kharkov outskirts
-Crimea 1944
-Zielona Gora 1944
-Târgu Frumos
-Kuuterselkä
-Ilomantsi
-Pegasus Bridge
-Ste Mère Église
-Juno Beach
-Mont Ormel
-Puffendorf
-Siegfried Line
-Foy
-Operation Nordwind 1945
-Seelow heights



Vehicles found in updates or changelog:
Finland:
-T26
-T50
-Sturmboat

France:
-sa34 25mm
-75mm model 1897
-Bloch 152
-MS 406
-Panhard 178
-Hotchkiss H35
-Somua S35
-Char B1 Bis

Germany:
-BF109G2
-Junkers 87G1
-Junkers F13(?)
-Hs129

Polish Forces in the West:
-Bedford
-M3a1 Halftrack
-M5a1 Stuart
-Cromwell
-Sherman V
-Hellcat(?)
-M10 Achilles IIc

Soviet Union:
-IL-2
-T20
-T26
-T34/85 late(?)
-Is2

United States:
-C47
-P38 Lightning
-M26 Pershing

Here are some future weapons to come:
(Look at dat French MAS)
(http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/1638/futureweaponsfh2.jpg)

That is all I have gathered here for you all at the moment to Conspire about.  :)

==================================================
CREDITS:
Prokhorovka - Knoffhoff/his thread http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?topic=17868.0
Unknown Russian town - Ts4ever http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?topic=14169.990
Church statics - McCloskey http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?topic=14169.675
Bridge icon - Nissi http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?topic=18165.60Unknown
Finnish map - Mayhemic.MAD http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/archives.php?selectedmonth=12&selectedyear=2012
Changelog vehicles  - Steel_Lion_FIN http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?topic=14169.420
                           - Kelmola http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?topic=14169.435
Future weapons - Godall http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?topic=13284.765
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 13-05-2013, 23:05:25
 While i am extremely impressed with this collection of random images & posts, i have to recommend that you need to take a break & go get a girlfriend.....


 ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 13-05-2013, 23:05:21
While i am extremely impressed with this collection of random images & posts, i have to recommend that you need to take a break & go get a girlfriend.....


 ;)

Understandable, have been writing many essays so I felt to organize all conspiracy material out there.  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 14-05-2013, 00:05:37
While i am extremely impressed with this collection of random images & posts, i have to recommend that you need to take a break & go get a girlfriend.....


I don't think that is fair on whatever woman has to pepper spray him.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TASSER on 14-05-2013, 00:05:16
While i am extremely impressed with this collection of random images & posts, i have to recommend that you need to take a break & go get a girlfriend.....

 ;)

I completely disagree. Devote your life to the pursuit of Forgotten Hope or be excommunicated.

Honestly, great accumulation of conspiracy notes :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: McCloskey on 14-05-2013, 00:05:11
Holy shit and I thought I had too much free time.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 14-05-2013, 00:05:54
Someone who had put T20 under United States on that list is a fucking idiot considering what we all know about current FH2 development.

(it's a tip)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 14-05-2013, 01:05:29
Someone who had put T20 under United States on that list is a fucking idiot considering what we all know about current FH2 development.

(it's a tip)

My apologies, got confused with the American tank.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Viikkasota on 14-05-2013, 11:05:45
How's Finnish and Soviet soldier models?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Lightning on 14-05-2013, 12:05:21
Someone who had put T20 under United States on that list is a fucking idiot considering what we all know about current FH2 development.

(it's a tip)
Didn't you get banned once for calling someone a "fucking idiot"?

(also a tip)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 14-05-2013, 15:05:06
Someone who had put T20 under United States on that list is a fucking idiot considering what we all know about current FH2 development.

(it's a tip)
Didn't you get banned once for calling someone a "fucking idiot"?

(also a tip)

(http://files.sharenator.com/walken_bitch_slap_demotivational_poster_1224438358_1-s640x800-82436.jpg)

 :-*
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 14-05-2013, 15:05:29
While i am extremely impressed with this collection of random images & posts, i have to recommend that you need to take a break & go get a girlfriend.....
I don't think that is fair on whatever woman has to pepper spray him.
The pick-up line that's guaranteed to work:
"Excuse me miss, does this rag smell like chloroform to you?"
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 15-05-2013, 18:05:07
Yes, because then you have to pick her up literally  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 15-05-2013, 19:05:16
Dudes, thid isnt the cheesy joke thread ;D

Moar conspiracies plz.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 15-05-2013, 20:05:13
 I got one for ya Turk...

 In a few weeks the 1 year anniversary of 2.45 will be upon us.....




2.5 cannot be far off
 
more cowbell
 :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 15-05-2013, 22:05:59
Moar conspiracies plz.
Isn't this enough?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 15-05-2013, 22:05:53
Moar conspiracies plz.
Isn't this enough?

FH2 conspiracies are never enough  ;)

But that was one big post of yours definately.  :o

I got one for ya Turk...

 In a few weeks the 1 year anniversary of 2.45 will be upon us.....




2.5 cannot be far off
 
more cowbell
 :P

Oh my ^^

Hope we'll get something special.

Or maybe really special...  :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: DaWorg! on 16-05-2013, 01:05:22
I bet that devs are hiding some "Normandy expansion" that will come along with Easternfront in 2.5
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 16-05-2013, 02:05:40
maybe they're hiding completely new front?  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TASSER on 16-05-2013, 02:05:43
maybe they're hiding completely new front?  ;)

Interesting. What theaters do we think are possible to do now?

Market Garden - We have all the equipment in game. Would just need British paratrooper skins (depending on what is being depicted) and maps.
Poland? France? Per the identified vehicles in Pizzzaman's post.

Or it could just be Jan being Jan :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 16-05-2013, 03:05:43
maybe they're hiding completely new front?  ;)
French Front (or whatever its called), no doubt.
I love beta testers giving us these hidden clues behind clues. :o
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Pejsaty on 16-05-2013, 08:05:02
No, it's simply jan trolling like always... ::)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 16-05-2013, 13:05:49
 Im guessing, due to previous release patterns and absolutely no inside information, that the following possible scenarios for 2.5 will occur:



1 - 2.5 will consist entirely of new maps for previously releases fronts + various updates & fixes

2 - 2.5 will consist of a combination of a small collection of Eastern Front maps & 1 or 2 maps for previously released fronts + various updates & fixes

3 - 2.5 will consist entirely of several new map for the Eastern Front + various updates & fixes





 I tend to lean towards theory 1 as i believe the Eastern Front will be delayed for a later date so a full 2.5 to 2.6 release can be made once 7 or 8 maps are available.


thoughts....
 8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 16-05-2013, 13:05:20
Interesting theories, but I still believe that the devs have a surprise for us on the same geography FH2 consists right now, as they told so in one of the news which came right after 2.45 was released.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 16-05-2013, 23:05:14
How do we know the next release will be 2.5?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 16-05-2013, 23:05:46
You don't. Could be 2.46.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TASSER on 17-05-2013, 16:05:25
Interesting theories, but I still believe that the devs have a surprise for us on the same geography FH2 consists right now, as they told so in one of the news which came right after 2.45 was released.

I think the new front referred to in that news update was Finland. There could be more coming, though the clues aren't really lining up.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 17-05-2013, 18:05:52
Interesting theories, but I still believe that the devs have a surprise for us on the same geography FH2 consists right now, as they told so in one of the news which came right after 2.45 was released.

I think the new front referred to in that news update was Finland. There could be more coming, though the clues aren't really lining up.

Here is the original of the announcement:
Quote
In other news, we are still working hard to get the Eastern Front ready, and you should expect to see some more Soviet and German equipment from that theatre in the news. But we might also have a few other surprises before the Eastern Front patch. Keep a look out for some new scenarios and content in our current theatres.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 17-05-2013, 19:05:58
You don't. Could be 2.46.

 That would be very disappointing after almost a year of development.


 ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: |7th|Nighthawk on 17-05-2013, 19:05:19
As long as they fix the tanks, I can agree with 2.46. I don't even need the Eastern front that soon :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Butcher on 17-05-2013, 20:05:26
As long as they fix the tanks, I can agree with 2.46. I don't even need the Eastern front that soon :P
I would honestly prefer that situation. The worst nightmare is an Eastern-Front expansion with a broken or not sufficiently worked out tank system. And by worked out I mean tested on public servers.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 23-05-2013, 16:05:38
I may be wrong, but it may be highly possible> SEELOW HEIGHTS BRIDGE :o

(http://imageshack.us/a/img811/5300/unkown1212.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 23-05-2013, 16:05:35
It looks more like Pegasus bridge.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Pejsaty on 23-05-2013, 16:05:30
I may be wrong, but it may be highly possible> SEELOW HEIGHTS BRIDGE :o

(http://imageshack.us/a/img811/5300/unkown1212.jpg)

Upload bigger pic, plz..  ::)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Korsakov829 on 23-05-2013, 16:05:24
It was revealed to us in that size, there is nothing bigger.

(http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/2342/unkown1212eiv.png)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 23-05-2013, 17:05:42
I was just going back to that photo they showed us awhile back. ;)

http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?topic=18165.60
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: [QPS]_Sex_Bomb on 23-05-2013, 18:05:09
As long as they fix the tanks, I can agree with 2.46. I don't even need the Eastern front that soon :P

When u talk about fixing tanks, do you mean the penetration bug?  Imho, worst than that, it's the inability of some tanks to start moving forward when facing any kind of elevation.  It feels so wrong.    :-\
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Pejsaty on 23-05-2013, 18:05:02
Or rolling over on small hills...  ::)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 23-05-2013, 23:05:19
I may be wrong, but it may be highly possible> SEELOW HEIGHTS BRIDGE :o

(http://imageshack.us/a/img811/5300/unkown1212.jpg)
It looks more like Pegasus bridge.
I call Arnhem bridge :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Chad1992 on 24-05-2013, 00:05:50
I agree with QPS and Pejsaty, tanks suck on hills.  I think I could get out and push it up the hill better than driving it.  Give em some power for peads sacks.  Right now its like "oh look a tiger i guess ill just slowly start moving and hope he doesnt hit me."  ::)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Surfbird on 24-05-2013, 02:05:55
It's the same for halftracks and even jeeps. It was added to make driving slopes somewhat realistic, but it's overdone indeed. Sometimes you can't move forward at all because of a tiny bump in the ground in front of you. Especially the halftracks are horrible with this.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 24-05-2013, 03:05:24
I have noticed with half tracks and jeeps that when you move up a hill, you just need to wait a couple seconds to "take effect". :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: x4fun ODIUM on 24-05-2013, 06:05:42
Yes, if you tried to hold your heavy armored vehicle on a slope like that in real life, with the engine revolving and your clutch gripping, you would probably overheat your clutch and make it jam. But hey, it's 2.45, everything is possible ;)

We once tried to go just a few yards uphill in reverse gear with a Volkswagen T5 bus on a ski tour in the alps.
Well, we all sat in the thing, 8 ppl including snowboarding gear. Let's say by the time we got it rolling and going backwards uphill to the intersection we wanted to get back to, the clutch could be smelt very well inside the vehicle ^^. That's what I always remember when hanging on a slope in FH2 nowadays.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LuckyOne on 25-05-2013, 12:05:53
It's the same for halftracks and even jeeps. It was added to make driving slopes somewhat realistic, but it's overdone indeed. Sometimes you can't move forward at all because of a tiny bump in the ground in front of you. Especially the halftracks are horrible with this.

I'll say it again... Guys, there are roads on the map for a reason. Use them!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Surfbird on 25-05-2013, 15:05:12
Well, it's kinda weird when you have to use a road while dtiving a halftrack being somewhat designed for offroad transportation and even can't drive up a tiny bump after stopping.

As Roughbeak says, it often works after a few seconds, but I've also seen this thing being unable to move forward at all, which forces you to reverse, gather speed and then pass the bump. Sometimes it's also good like that, because the slope is so steep that driving up it while standing seems unrealistic. Especially for jeeps and trucks.

But especially a halftrack should manage slopes without many problems, as the tracks guarantee it does not lose traction, but currently the situation in halftracks is the worst of all vehicles.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 25-05-2013, 15:05:23
The Hanomag is ok with that, but the Bren carrier...oh God the horror  :-X
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 25-05-2013, 15:05:23
More conspiracies, less vehicle talk. Could we bring the Karelia bealtatest photo discussion over here at this topic please?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 25-05-2013, 16:05:36
That picture does look small I must say, I guess it's a 16p map.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 25-05-2013, 17:05:37
More conspiracies, less vehicle talk. Could we bring the Karelia bealtatest photo discussion over here at this topic please?

What Karelia photo?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 25-05-2013, 17:05:57
Okay, I used the wrong word. The photo with the sturmboots and forest.

But we all know you betatesters are always trying to drag us away from the truth.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 25-05-2013, 17:05:08
I sincerely hope for a German amphibious assault.

Question that can be answered by devs/betatesters/everyone "in the know", will the availability of MP40s, G43s, Fausts and STGs be greater/better than currently displayed? I mean, it was a big front and certainly had the priority in distribution of new and better guns than the west front, so will the limited kits be a bit less limited?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: hyperanthropos on 25-05-2013, 19:05:59
Pretty sure kit limitations are placed around balancing issues, rather than historical issues. The only way it makes sence in my opinion. What you decribe could be added via pick up kits if this better supply is a fact.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 25-05-2013, 19:05:23
All these Finnish maps....

(http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=19073.0;attach=4681;image)

(http://www.sichtling.com/images/work_05/new_image_1.jpg)

(http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af43/BGF-Kraetzer/Preview%20render/screen464.png)

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/news/121216/stream.jpg)

...look the same!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 25-05-2013, 19:05:21
the hell did that tank come from?  :o
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mattitatti on 25-05-2013, 19:05:53

OFOFOFOF, wanna see more Finnish maps and that stuff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 25-05-2013, 19:05:59
the hell did that tank come from?  :o

Russia.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: radiosmersh on 25-05-2013, 21:05:28

OFOFOFOF, wanna see more Finnish maps and that stuff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
T-50:
(http://sichtling.com/images/work_05/new_image_2.jpg)
MP-34:
(http://sichtling.com/images/work_05/mp34_render_01.jpg)

(http://sichtling.com/images/work_05/mp34_ingame_01.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 25-05-2013, 21:05:21
Taken from Sorken's personal portfolio.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 25-05-2013, 23:05:05
Holy holy holy.... GREAT WORK! I cannot contain my excitement! :o :o :o

Btw...what map is that called? 8)

Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 27-05-2013, 18:05:21
 As much as i love Normandy, i have a really good feeling about the Eastern Front.....

- Can we at least get destructible bridges





.......excuse me while i kiss those screenshots
 :-*
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Gotkai on 27-05-2013, 21:05:09
Me too. Finnish-Sovjet maps are really great.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 27-05-2013, 21:05:15
I wanna use that MP34 soooo bad.... I guess it'll be my favorite weapon...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 27-05-2013, 21:05:57
I was thinking...was that a Finnish soldier using the MP34. :o
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 27-05-2013, 21:05:01
Yes but it will be used by the germans.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 27-05-2013, 21:05:48
I remember Ts4EVER telling me it will be used in PdH German assault kit until early war maps are available, because MP34 was used by SS during invasion of France.

Edit: yeah I was kinda late. Also, does this mean Finnish playermodels are allready made?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 27-05-2013, 21:05:57
Yes but it will be used by the germans.
I thought about it.
So is that map Finns vs Russians? ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Wilhelm on 27-05-2013, 21:05:26
Yes but it will be used by the germans.
I thought about it.
So is that map Finns vs Russians? ;D

That map is not a map, but an environment made by sorken to showcase his work for his portfolio IIRC.  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 28-05-2013, 19:05:52
I found a song called french_tune in the FH2 map load musics. I dont think its in any of the maps, because I never heard it in FH2.


And more interesting is, there is also a Ormel_load, which is in Polish language. So as Jan_kurator said, we might see Polish forces in the west some day. I'd rather have September 1939 though, but that's not gonna happen.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Korsakov829 on 28-05-2013, 20:05:44
The only reason you've never heard french_tune is because it's usually toned-out by explosions and MG42 fire.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: DaWorg! on 29-05-2013, 00:05:54
So as Jan_kurator said, we might see Polish forces in the west some day.

Could be Polish forces in the east...or Warsaw uprising  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 29-05-2013, 03:05:12
 According to Knoffhoff's Dev post, Prokhorovka will be in the first release & set during the Battle Of Kursk

 also

It will be a 4km map comparable to Gazala - El Alamein



 Is this a sign that the devs are looking at future releases with 128 players in mind?
 8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 29-05-2013, 03:05:52
As long as there are enough (hahah, "enough") tanks on the map, I'm satisfied with 64p too  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 29-05-2013, 08:05:58
So as Jan_kurator said, we might see Polish forces in the west some day.

Could be Polish forces in the east...or Warsaw uprising  ;D

Oh man, it would be great to have Warsaw i FH2. But I believe thats not gonna happen. And the name of the song is Ormel, so its probably Poles in the west.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 16-06-2013, 01:06:57
What the bloody hell ever happened to the Swordfish?

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/images/news/153%20-%20swordfish.jpg)

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/images/news/153%20-%20swordfish_02.jpg)

http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/archives.php?selectedmonth=2&selectedyear=2006
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Korsakov829 on 16-06-2013, 02:06:03
It's in the 2.45 files far as I know, it's just that whatever map it was planned to be used on was cancelled/postponed, most likely based on a naval battle. At least, that's what probably has happened.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 16-06-2013, 02:06:10
Wow! I never knew that was even created. :D

Awesome model, and i hope it will be in the future naval battle...(a naval battle in fh2, wow) 8)


*Especially this guy, which i hope will make it in the next releases ;D

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/images/news/155%20-%20TypeVIIB-4.jpg)

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/images/news/155%20-%20TypeVIIB-1.jpg)

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/images/news/155%20-%20TypeVIIB-3.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 16-06-2013, 02:06:33
 Ive said it before and ill say it again..........

 I would bet Turkish's right testicle that Mr. Lightning has Hard Drive's full of content in a secret underground bunker...........

 
 Location unknown of course....
 :-*
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 16-06-2013, 03:06:04
I did some more digging and look what i found.

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/images/news/157%20-%20swordfish_01.jpg)

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/images/news/157%20-%20swordfish_03.jpg)

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/images/news/157%20-%20swordfish_05.jpg)

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/images/news/157%20-%20u47ingame_05.jpg)

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/images/news/157%20-%20u47ingame_06.jpg)

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/images/news/157%20-%20u47ingame_02.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Korsakov829 on 16-06-2013, 03:06:31
Oh I remember now, it was in that one map that... I can't seem to remember it's name or even find it now, was it removed in 2.45 or something? That doesn't seem right though... maybe time to reinstall FH2.

Why the fuck can't I find that now... WHY DAMMIT?!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 16-06-2013, 03:06:31
Holy dude, i can find the Audacity (Brit ship), Liberty (Brit ship), and the SubVii (german U-Boot) in the objects\vehicles\sea.
Also the "kid plane" i can find in the jolly file also (i laughed my butt off at the picture of it).

Whoa, i can find the Horsa Glider, and the Swordfish also in the file!


Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: titsmcgee852 on 16-06-2013, 05:06:49
Wish I knew how to load those up in game!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 16-06-2013, 05:06:56
Me too, i posted here ;)

http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?topic=100.msg303921#new

---------

Here is the "kidplane", from FH2 files, if anyone is interested xD  ;D ;D
(http://imageshack.us/a/img547/2937/ekjz.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 16-06-2013, 10:06:35
Holy moly!  :o those look epic! Why was the Swordfish taken out? Will the submarine ever be included? And the kiddy plane (  ;D ) why is it even there? I need an official word.

Ive said it before and ill say it again..........

 I would bet Turkish's right testicle that Mr. Lightning has Hard Drive's full of content in a secret underground bunker...........

 
 Location unknown of course....
 :-*

Im not losing my right ball, because there has to be somewhere they keep their unreleased stuff. ;D because they said some content are older than 2 years, so there are more which were sone in the past and are being kept in a safe for future Forgotten- awesomeness - Hope 2 releases!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: hyperanthropos on 16-06-2013, 11:06:06
There must have been some point in Fh2 history on which the devs decided to drop naval maps. So that is probably when the swordfish and the subamrine became unnecessary.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 16-06-2013, 12:06:58
Aww... But I wanted to use them...  :-[
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: hitm4k3r on 16-06-2013, 13:06:32
If you want to have naval battles join WaW or FlH. I remember the naval event that was organized like one or two years ago for the public players. Sneaking with the submarine through two engaging battleships? Was no problem.

This is certainly where alot of potential was/is unused, but you all know the problem: manpower.  :(
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 16-06-2013, 15:06:36
I need an official word.
Even you can look in the file, looks pretty official kiddy plane. ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 16-06-2013, 15:06:57
I need an official word.
Even you can look in the file, looks pretty official kiddy plane. ;D

Hehe, I suppose the devs made it for fun and as an easter egg :D

But what about the Swordfish? I'll leave the submarine out, but the Swridfish looks epic. Would it only work in a naval map? I really wanna see this stuff released :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Chad1992 on 16-06-2013, 15:06:39
The sword fish and submarine would be very cool to see on a map, its a shame to have beautiful models and not be able to use them.  :-[
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: titsmcgee852 on 16-06-2013, 16:06:09
If they're never used I'm sure they'll be donated somewhere else, like the old japanese tank models got donated to bg42.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 16-06-2013, 17:06:46
If you want, you can make your own map with the Swordfish and the submarine and the ships on it. Naval maps have the reputation of not being so difficult to make ;)

And the kidplane is just that: a plane for kids. One of the devs made it for his kids so they could toy around with it in FH2. Or so I heard, at least.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 16-06-2013, 17:06:30
Yeah, the readme file next to it says so. I'll add the Swordfish to a map, and maybe post it on my Moddb page. I wanna see people's reactions!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 16-06-2013, 18:06:20
here is the swordfish:

(http://media.moddb.com/cache/images/members/2/1090/1089506/thumb_620x2000/screen470.jpg)

I put it into Op. Totalize, damn this looks smexy!  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Korsakov829 on 16-06-2013, 18:06:53
Swordfish was used as a scout plane in that one North Africa map I believe, but I still can't even find that or remember it's name so it must have been removed in 2.45.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 16-06-2013, 22:06:04
Swordfish was used as a scout plane in that one North Africa map I believe, but I still can't even find that or remember it's name so it must have been removed in 2.45.
If you mean Operation Aberdeen, that scout plane wasn't a Swordfish, it was a Piper Cub.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Biiviz on 16-06-2013, 23:06:37
People excited over the submarine... feels like 2006 (?) all over again.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 17-06-2013, 17:06:44
Does anyone remember this from the changelog:
Quote
Update swordfish code (kev4000)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 17-06-2013, 18:06:28
Is it in the latest changelog? I hope we see the Swordfish in an official map later in the future.

By the way, can someone make an only-sea map without any land or details, and put the ships in there? I would love to play with them in an online match, since now 762 has one of its servers for custom maps!  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 17-06-2013, 18:06:32
WaW have many of such maps already!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 17-06-2013, 18:06:28
Yes, I know but you need WaW minimod for it, no?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 17-06-2013, 21:06:00
Well, you will need always some kind of addon while these ships aren't in official mod!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 17-06-2013, 21:06:15
There are some ships in the mod as Roughbeak showed us, but Im sure they added new stuff. Oh well, thanks.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 18-06-2013, 16:06:42
Does the Swordfish have bot-support? It might be the reason the map crashes when I put it into an SP map.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: titsmcgee852 on 19-06-2013, 17:06:39
No it doesn't
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: radiosmersh on 19-06-2013, 23:06:16
No it doesn't
Actually, it has AI support.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 20-06-2013, 15:06:40
Woot woot ;D
Finally got these two working. All i had to do was put these in vanilla fh2 and backup the map (i guess there is a way to make a shortcut to the fh2 (modding) folder? ;)

I cannot get the SubVII to work? Any ideas? :D

kidplane: like watchtower said, "this thing flies like a champ, like a Messerschmitt 262", and i would agree :o
(http://imageshack.us/a/img12/7082/wyf4.png)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img600/5157/i9c.png)

Swordfish: this airplane is not bad either, extremely good maneuverability skills. :)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img15/4262/nj5u.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img19/6416/l6x.png)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img195/4863/bm7.png)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 20-06-2013, 15:06:51
Yeah subs and ships didnt work when I put them in PdH.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 20-06-2013, 15:06:27
Yeah subs and ships didnt work when I put them in PdH.
I thought about putting the SubVII and the sworfishes in that "norway" map in one of those tournament maps :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 20-06-2013, 15:06:06
I also tried it on Salerno, since it has a bigger part of water, but still didnt work.  :-\

Again, If someone could make a 4x4 only water map with all the ships, subs and the Swordfish it would be awesome!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 20-06-2013, 16:06:22
Well i got it into pointe du hoc (subVII)
But how do i pull them out of the water (*jedi force pull*) ;D, i think these are statics anyway though..

(http://imageshack.us/a/img407/5294/6sv0.png)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img827/8168/k66.png)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 20-06-2013, 16:06:27
Looks cool. Did you manage to enter it? It might work like the sub on the map Norway.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 20-06-2013, 16:06:18
Holy crap!
*Drum roll* ;D ;D

(http://imageshack.us/a/img266/7727/e03l.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img208/9139/stwv.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img560/5182/olxg.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img259/8025/7rnq.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img43/6199/9ykq.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img442/3806/ivp2.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img109/5153/9dka.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img259/5420/jxx8.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img835/2595/g3pr.jpg)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img845/8282/22cy.jpg)

Now thats called a fleet ;D ;D
(http://imageshack.us/a/img841/4870/9yal.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: radiosmersh on 20-06-2013, 16:06:29
http://youtu.be/ggVpB_NfvvA
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 20-06-2013, 17:06:05
 Wow thats cool

 So the video is from 7 years ago & what Roughbeak did was also cool.


 Makes one wonder why the community is where it is..

- 1 consistently populated server
- with its OWN awards system
- Tournaments that release maps & do things previously claimed impossible
- Content apparently out the Ying-Yang, but most if not all mappers either retired, involved in other projects or overworked.


 It looks as if the FH2 blueprint was changed along the way & internal disorder to over

 .....here we are 3 weeks away from 2.45 1 year anniversary

 What a waste
 :-\
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LuckyOne on 20-06-2013, 17:06:56
Hey, it could be worse... There are mods that get updates every three years out there, and then nobody ever plays them... Talk about a waste of work... At least FH2 is still played actively, and the tourneys are still going strong.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 20-06-2013, 20:06:46
Wow thats cool

 So the video is from 7 years ago & what Roughbeak did was also cool.


 Makes one wonder why the community is where it is..

- 1 consistently populated server
- with its OWN awards system
- Tournaments that release maps & do things previously claimed impossible
- Content apparently out the Ying-Yang, but most if not all mappers either retired, involved in other projects or overworked.


 It looks as if the FH2 blueprint was changed along the way & internal disorder to over

 .....here we are 3 weeks away from 2.45 1 year anniversary

 What a waste
 :-\
You forgot the French Front Fiasco and Soppa's pay-to-play 128p dramabomb.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 27-06-2013, 22:06:25
Is it just me or does this look like a green American Spitfire with a yellow/black paint job on the front?

PS: The image can be found at:
     Documents/Forgottenhp 2/LogoCache/fh.warumdarum.de
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Surfbird on 27-06-2013, 22:06:21
Looks like a P 40 to me.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 27-06-2013, 22:06:18
Looks like a P 40 to me.

Now that I think of it, it does kind of look like a kittyhawk.

(http://www.andybright.com/prop/p40.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 28-06-2013, 07:06:54
I was wondering about that too. It looks like the P-40 on Sidi Bou Zid but a different paint scheme.(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/imagesfh2/vehicles/Curtiss%20P-40E%20Kittyhawk_3/big.jpg)

This is the American version of the P-40 on Sidi Bou Zid and it doesnt have that much yellow on the front and the one in pizzamans pic looks green aswel.

It is the conspiracy thread after all :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 28-06-2013, 07:06:06
The screenshots for these promo pictures were taken during FH2.45 beta testing. Sidi Bou Zid used to have several place holder vehicles from FH1, including a P38 lightning, before FH2 planes were made.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 22-08-2013, 21:08:52
Felt like reviving this thread since, imo, the forums have been a little slow/ pessimistic around here lately. And this thread always provides alot of fun/ hype around FH 8)

Plus we have a new bit of cryptic info from Ts4EVER via this thread: ;)
http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?topic=19240.0 (http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?topic=19240.0)

Don't worry, development has started again. One map for the next patch is already finished. It's not a Russian map, but there is some new equipment on it that Theta might like  ;)

I'm guessing Churchill AVRE since it's still upcoming in the vehicles list. (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/imagesfh2/vehicles/Churchill%20AVRE_4/big.jpg)

Now let's start conspiring shit and have some fun in these forums again :)

maps that the Devs would include a Churchill AVRE on?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 22-08-2013, 21:08:05
Gold Beach m'boy.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 22-08-2013, 21:08:29
Canadians, eh.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Lightning on 22-08-2013, 22:08:22
No.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 22-08-2013, 22:08:37
Wait, Gold Beach isnt Canadians? Oh, my mistake.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Lightning on 22-08-2013, 22:08:22
Indeed.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 22-08-2013, 22:08:56
Finished, finished... big word, finished...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 22-08-2013, 22:08:49
Indeed.

Fixed:

The British, ol' chap.

 ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 23-08-2013, 02:08:51
Yes Canadians were in Juno Beach. ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: titsmcgee852 on 23-08-2013, 12:08:30
Finished, finished... big word, finished...
What do you mean?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 23-08-2013, 15:08:46
Well, there you have it. The Finns are finished above all finished.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 23-08-2013, 15:08:52
Hahahahah I wish.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 23-08-2013, 15:08:30
At least the mod is somewhat finnished. ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: BaskaBommi on 23-08-2013, 18:08:30
Oh I see what you did there.

Suami Finiland Perkele!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 23-08-2013, 19:08:13
Finished, finished... big word, finished...
What do you mean?
What do you think I mean?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 23-08-2013, 20:08:18
You meant you Finnished Gold Beach. ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 23-08-2013, 21:08:38
You meant you Finnished Gold Beach. ;)

What if it's a Finnish beach map?  :o

Don't worry, development has started again. One map for the next patch is already finished. It's not a Russian map,  but there is some new equipment on it that Theta might like  ;)

Might be Finnish...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 23-08-2013, 21:08:02
But wait.. Arent Finns fighting the Russians?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Lightning on 23-08-2013, 21:08:41
But wait.. Arent Finns fighting the Russians?
But not in Russia, in Finland.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 23-08-2013, 22:08:48
But wait.. Arent Finns fighting the Russians?
But not in Russia, in Finland.

Don't worry, development has started again. One map for the next patch is already finished. It's not a Russian map, but there is some new equipment on it that Theta might like  ;)

So by the underlined words, Ts4EVER means battles taking place on Russian soil, but not battles the Russians participated in?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Lightning on 23-08-2013, 22:08:20
No, but he could have been. You didn't know that.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 23-08-2013, 22:08:13
Well it depends how do you determit "Finland". Do you call the german captured france or parts of russia as germany even if it was only temporary? ;)

Finland only expanded it's territory temporarily too.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 23-08-2013, 23:08:55
One map for the next patch is already finished.

Haha! It settles it then, One map for the next patch is already "Finnished". ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 24-08-2013, 00:08:37
What if he means it both ways? One map for Finland is complete and one for Western Front/Africa?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 24-08-2013, 00:08:34
Im a bit confused now.  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TASSER on 24-08-2013, 00:08:50
What if he means it both ways? One map for Finland is complete and one for Western Front/Africa?

He would have said "two maps are finished" if that was the case.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 24-08-2013, 00:08:21
What if a map is only rearing completion and there is actually NOTHING finished?  ::) Confusion!!  ???
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Korsakov829 on 24-08-2013, 04:08:25
Your confusing yourself now.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 24-08-2013, 13:08:38
Hehe, no. Not at all.  :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 24-08-2013, 20:08:49
How many Finland maps are being made at the moment? The only map we are aware of is Kuuterselka.
As stated previously in this thread, below is the skybox for it.
(http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=14169.0;attach=4296;image)
http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?topic=14169.690

But which one of these maps is using that texture?  ???
Unless neither of these screens are of Kuuterselka...
(http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=19073.0;attach=4681;image)
(http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af43/BGF-Kraetzer/Preview%20render/screen464.png)
These two screens above look like the same map. (I could be wrong here)

Then we have another, more green Finland map:
(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/news/121216/stream.jpg)

So by my estimate, there are 2-4 finnish maps being made/finnished at this moment.
That is all.  :-*

Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 24-08-2013, 20:08:18
There are also ~35 Turkish maps being finished.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Korsakov829 on 24-08-2013, 20:08:37
Still wrapping my head around that boat picture, I only just realized those are sandbags at the base of the MG and not a soldier.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Krätzer on 25-08-2013, 00:08:54
? It´s a Sturmboot.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 25-08-2013, 11:08:54
Sturmboot is allready in the game files, its just a little bit buggy.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Eat Uranium on 25-08-2013, 15:08:27
I feel that this image is appropriate for this thread

(http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1ttr8Wr4w1rqu3epo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: titsmcgee852 on 25-08-2013, 16:08:26
^ rofl

I'm not being critical and I understand things take time, a lot of time, but the russians have been been in development for a loooong time now, do they still not have a map complete? Or do you have maps complete that are just waiting for statics?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 25-08-2013, 17:08:31
We have spotted Russian statics in Knoffhoff's Prokhorovka.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: titsmcgee852 on 26-08-2013, 15:08:09
That means nothing, it takes a lot of statics to make a map look finished.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 26-08-2013, 19:08:21
Still, the Eastern Front has been in development for quite a time. Im guessing most statics would be ready.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: hitm4k3r on 26-08-2013, 20:08:02
It is not a matter of statics. The dev team has very skilled individuals who are able to pump out models quite fast in a damn good quality. It is the mapping process that takes a shitload of time and where the most help is needed atm. So if you have some mapping skills, roll up your sleeves and help.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Lightning on 26-08-2013, 20:08:46
It is not a matter of statics. The dev team has very skilled individuals who are able to pump out models quite fast in a damn good quality. It is the mapping process that takes a shitload of time and where the most help is needed atm. So if you have some mapping skills, roll up your sleeves and help.
In my opinion that's not really true. The development team needs statics modellers a lot more than mappers.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Krätzer on 26-08-2013, 23:08:19
It is not a matter of statics. The dev team has very skilled individuals who are able to pump out models quite fast in a damn good quality. It is the mapping process that takes a shitload of time and where the most help is needed atm. So if you have some mapping skills, roll up your sleeves and help.
In my opinion that's not really true. The development team needs statics modellers a lot more than mappers.

That´s correct.  :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 01-09-2013, 20:09:13
Quote
In other news, we are still working hard to get the Eastern Front ready, and you should expect to see some more Soviet and German equipment from that theatre in the news. But we might also have a few other surprises before the Eastern Front patch. Keep a look out for some new scenarios and content in our current theatres.

I have decided to make a list of ideas for what "new scenarios" could be present in the current theatres:

-More East Africa
-Maps featuring French forces/Vichy France/Free French
-Italian/Sicilian Front
-Battle of Britain
-Beyond Siegfried line into Germany
-Maps featuring Polish forces of the West
-Operation Torch
-Southern France/ Operation Dragoon
-Operation Market Garden
-Narvik
-Naval battles
-More Greece
-Airborne maps
-Beach landing maps


What are your thoughts?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 01-09-2013, 20:09:39
Plenty of French vehicles have been digged out of the changelog as we all know, so my bet is on Frenchies.

But I wouldnt mind other scenarios too. Its a pity we arent having Poland 1939 though.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 01-09-2013, 21:09:20
Quote
In other news, we are still working hard to get the Eastern Front ready, and you should expect to see some more Soviet and German equipment from that theatre in the news. But we might also have a few other surprises before the Eastern Front patch. Keep a look out for some new scenarios and content in our current theatres.

I have decided to make a list of ideas for what "new scenarios" could be present in the current theatres:

-More East Africa
-Maps featuring French forces/Vichy France/Free French
-Italian/Sicilian Front
-Battle of Britain
-Beyond Siegfried line into Germany
-Maps featuring Polish forces of the West
-Operation Torch
-Southern France/ Operation Dragoon
-Operation Market Garden
-Narvik
-Naval battles
-More Greece
-Airborne maps
-Beach landing maps


What are your thoughts?

Ah those dreams...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 01-09-2013, 22:09:01

-Beach landing maps

I would guess this. :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Godall on 02-09-2013, 12:09:26
Finnish m/32 by Krätzer. Maybe this model will add to FH ::)
There's more I can show you, but if I find it(((
(http://cs323722.vk.me/v323722292/8fb4/6YzqM-9Sdpc.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 03-09-2013, 17:09:59
-More East Africa
I don't see them making any more of these maps. Iirc Keren was made by a community member and a few years later was good enough to be turned into an official map. I think a dev had some spare time to make some East African statics.

Quote
-Maps featuring French forces/Vichy France/Free French
I could see the French making an apperance, like others have said theres a bit of French stuff in the changelogs and I have a feeling the Devs/ French Hope map makers have been working together to get those maps up to par... I could be wrong tho :P the biggest thing would be French player models to do it right.

Quote
-Italian/Sicilian Front
seeing as the team is hurting for static modelers right now I don't see this happeneing as it would require alot of new statics. FHT has some good maps for it tho 8)
 
Quote
-Battle of Britain
would be fun, someone made a 4k fan map for it which was a blast. It would need some new planes to make it proper and not many new statics. I don't see the devs going there tho

Quote
-Beyond Siegfried line into Germany
Certainly possible and would be easy to do, just need maps

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-Maps featuring Polish forces of the West
there are polish vehicle skins in the files right now. would be nice to see a Mt ormel map someday :D

Would a 1944 polish soldier need new player models, or just new kit geometries/skins?
 
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-Operation Torch
Seems possible, but I think I recall a dev saying that Sidi Bou Zid was the last map featuring africa that was being worked on atm

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-Southern France/ Operation Dragoon
That'd be a cool map, just need someone to make it. I have a feeling nobody's working on a map like this tho
 
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-Operation Market Garden
I want to see a Market Garden map sooooo badly. Invasion of Crete style with gliders being spawnable and being able to be flown in :P Idk how different Holland statics would be from French statics. Maybe just a few iconic things would need to be made like windmills etc... seems like less work than a whole other front tho

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-Naval battles
sadly I don't think we'll see a Rheinuebung in FH2 :-\
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-More Greece
I think Olympus was a one off that took a good FHT map and made it up to par for pubby play

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-Beach landing maps
I'd say Gold Beach is in the works ;)

Finnish m/32 by Krätzer. Maybe this model will add to FH ::)
There's more I can show you, but if I find it(((
(http://cs323722.vk.me/v323722292/8fb4/6YzqM-9Sdpc.jpg)

Idk how many tris this is but for a relatively low poly weapon like this it SHOULD certainly possible to add it to the BF2 engine with relatively ease. Might just need a bit of optimization on the model (or not depending on tri count and how the devs handle performance) Maybe some PS tweaks (idk what texture sheets RO2 uses that are different from the BF2 engine) it would probably also have to be re-setup in a different hierarchy for the BF2 engine. and could probably use the Nebeleihandgranate 42 animations by the looks of it :P I've never modeled for RO2 tho so there might be some huge roadblock I'm missing. Would be fun to see this and Kraetzers Pacific models for that ArmA2 mod in FH2 someday 8)
 
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Godall on 04-09-2013, 18:09:03
Le Vengeur de 1870(France) in FH2.  And much I'll show you some time :-*   Eastfront*

(http://cs421322.vk.me/v421322292/82d6/b6y8YkbnxiA.jpg)
(http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/7310/9dbm.png)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 04-09-2013, 18:09:17
Oh yes I think I saw this one on Krätzer's ModDB page.

Beautiful isnt it?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Godall on 07-09-2013, 20:09:32
М1903А3

(http://cs316426.vk.me/v316426292/a599/Qv4SBE4_Cuk.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Godall on 08-09-2013, 15:09:05
Today I is showing a render new weapons - Faustpatrone!!! Model made FH2 Dev and my retextures.

Youtube links: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fReIJzZt-w

(http://cs301302.vk.me/v301302292/3671/zCA3oLLl05k.jpg)

Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 08-09-2013, 15:09:39
Wow! :)

Wait a second... is this some type of catch that the devs are telling us 2.5 is coming close! ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 08-09-2013, 16:09:19
Godall, are you an "undercover" dev?  :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Godall on 08-09-2013, 16:09:44
Godall, are you an "undercover" dev?  :D

Aha ha no no... I not Dev's. I used to do a mini-mods to Bf2 and Stalker. So I have experience in this. Maybe today I'll show you even more news... Sunday! ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 08-09-2013, 16:09:18
Great, cant wait to see them!

I absolutely love seing these stuff.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Godall on 08-09-2013, 17:09:40
Back to France! Rifle Berthier model 1916

icon in game
(http://cs301302.vk.me/v301302292/36a1/BedW-gEjxAE.jpg)

(http://151ril.com/images/pages/rifles9mm.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 08-09-2013, 18:09:03
I don't think this is a Conspiracy Thread anymore...   :-\

Models look great! Also, I thought French forces replaced the Berthier model 1916 with the carbine?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 08-09-2013, 19:09:50
Is that icon for FH2?

Also Pizzaman, we'll bound it to a conspiracy eventually. If this French rifle icon is for FH2, I'm sure It'll spark a conspiracy :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Godall on 09-09-2013, 14:09:37
Maybe someone knows what stuck radio?  :P

(http://cs301302.vk.me/v301302292/39fe/7c2O0t5QSaI.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 09-09-2013, 15:09:10
That's the one in Point Du Hoc right?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Godall on 09-09-2013, 15:09:26
That's the one in Point Du Hoc right?

I do not know. I also found a Kit of soldier from Omaha.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Korsakov829 on 09-09-2013, 17:09:58
(http://imageshack.us/a/img4/2380/zgej.png)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img209/9831/6g1i.png)

Yes that's the radio on PdH.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 15-09-2013, 19:09:43
What if a map is only rearing completion and there is actually NOTHING finished?  ::) Confusion!!  ???
"NOTHING finished"

"NOTHING finished"

"NOTHING finished"

"NOTHING finished"



finnished
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 15-09-2013, 20:09:30
Man, I wish Fh2 updates and conspiracies.

Liven this thread up! Doesnt any developer have a hint to show something similiar to that small bridge photo or the Russian town with lenin statue?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kubador on 16-09-2013, 00:09:15
Today we tested a russian map. It was cool. With a lot of KTs and other goodies. Happy?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: RommelBr on 16-09-2013, 01:09:41
Today we tested a russian map. It was cool. With a lot of KTs and other goodies. Happy?

Hun.. i can fap accept to this  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 16-09-2013, 05:09:45
Today we tested a russian map. It was cool. With a lot of KTs and other goodies. Happy?

Yes  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 16-09-2013, 09:09:06
Today we tested a russian map. It was cool. With a lot of KTs and other goodies. Happy?

 So does this mean summer break is over & development is back in progress?

 :-*
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 16-09-2013, 09:09:22
Yes, we are back on track and some of the stuff that is being worked on would blow your entire mind.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 16-09-2013, 09:09:16
It was not just a summer break, things been literally dead for several months, not only for the summer. But now people are getting that much needed injection of motivation (not to mention all that precious time needed for such projects) to get the work done for next release. Mind you, next release is still a long way ahead but now at least there seems to be a future, which you couldnt say the same few months back.

The guys over in the development and testing team is doing grand job with the hands they have. If you have any sort of talents when it comes to BF2 modding and you can spare the valuable time that we all have only a limited amount of, you should definitely take a chance at offering any kind of help you can to those guys.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: greenMIKO on 16-09-2013, 14:09:03
It was not just a summer break, things been literally dead for several months, not only for the summer. But now people are getting that much needed injection of motivation (not to mention all that precious time needed for such projects) to get the work done for next release. Mind you, next release is still a long way ahead but now at least there seems to be a future, which you couldnt say the same few months back.

The guys over in the development and testing team is doing grand job with the hands they have. If you have any sort of talents when it comes to BF2 modding and you can spare the valuable time that we all have only a limited amount of, you should definitely take a chance at offering any kind of help you can to those guys.
Well, in that case i think i should buy bf2... again, because i lost my steam account.  ::)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 16-09-2013, 15:09:40
....
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 16-09-2013, 17:09:10
Losing a steam account must suck.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 16-09-2013, 21:09:29
It was not just a summer break, things been literally dead for several months, not only for the summer. But now people are getting that much needed injection of motivation (not to mention all that precious time needed for such projects) to get the work done for next release. Mind you, next release is still a long way ahead but now at least there seems to be a future, which you couldnt say the same few months back.

 That's great news 8) can't wait to see what's in store that will blow our entire collective minds ;)

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The guys over in the development and testing team is doing grand job with the hands they have. If you have any sort of talents when it comes to BF2 modding and you can spare the valuable time that we all have only a limited amount of, you should definitely take a chance at offering any kind of help you can to those guys.

I have experience in object modelling and texturing (weapons/ vehicles etc..) last I heard they were in need of static modelers and mappers tho
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 17-09-2013, 12:09:54
FH2 is in need of everything.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 17-09-2013, 15:09:40
Your models were really successful as I observed, Baker, and werent you saying you wanted to be a dev? This an opportunity :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 17-09-2013, 16:09:46
 Well i am thankful for what has been accomplished up to now & have accepted the fact that the Eastern Front will probably be as far as it goes.

We have all been part of history. The Last decade has taken this brand new invention called computer technology to new places. FH was on the forefront of something new called "Modding" & re-created award winning games for all of us to play


  Its been a good run...
 :(
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 17-09-2013, 17:09:33
Always remember that the Hope that we have is not Forgotten! 8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 17-09-2013, 18:09:22
Getting old, jimi? It seems like you simply revisit this thread from time to time to post the same pessimistic stuff over and over again, without reading what is being written about current state of development.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: RAnDOOm on 17-09-2013, 22:09:17
Getting old, jimi? It seems like you simply revisit this thread from time to time to post the same pessimistic stuff over and over again, without reading what is being written about current state of development.

 He always seems like 16 year old that complains about nothing.... has not played FH2 for along time and stil complains... attention w ?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 18-09-2013, 00:09:22
OK, who can tell me which tank this is a part of?

(http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i390/TheNissi/Unbenannt_zps1859d5a9.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 18-09-2013, 00:09:21
OK, who can tell me which tank this is a part of?

(http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i390/TheNissi/Unbenannt_zps1859d5a9.jpg)

Now we got something ;) although I have NO clue.... judging from the color in the background it looks like a Finnish camo?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 18-09-2013, 01:09:16
Getting old, jimi? It seems like you simply revisit this thread from time to time to post the same pessimistic stuff over and over again, without reading what is being written about current state of development.

 He always seems like 16 year old that complains about nothing.... has not played FH2 for along time and stil complains... attention w ?

 You know, i was going to respond, but i have decided not to & let the process unfold.

 re-read my personal text fellas....to the left....

  :-X


OK, who can tell me which tank this is a part of?

(http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i390/TheNissi/Unbenannt_zps1859d5a9.jpg)

 Ill say The IS-1 / JS-1 (Josef Stalin)


Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Biiviz on 18-09-2013, 14:09:27
OK, who can tell me which tank this is a part of?

(http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i390/TheNissi/Unbenannt_zps1859d5a9.jpg)


(http://i.imgur.com/FI7ymvB.png)

Come at me, bro.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 18-09-2013, 15:09:35
Was about to say that, it looked more like a bridge going over water rather than some metallic joint.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 18-09-2013, 19:09:52
That's not a flagpole, guys. Think more natural.

@jimi: well, I was just wondering. If wisdom listens, however, why don't you? Several testers amnd some devs have confirmed that development has picked up, yet you seem to miss that everytime and re-post some pessismism. I do'nt think that's helpful in any way and I'm sorry to read it.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 19-09-2013, 08:09:34
That's not a flagpole, guys. Think more natural.

@jimi: I do'nt think that's helpful in any way and I'm sorry to read it.

 Agreed. Unfortunately, I have this nasty habit of seeing the big picture. Its a curse really.



..but dammit its absolutely not a flagpole, its part of a tank track.

 Cant we see a larger image?

 ???
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 19-09-2013, 13:09:44
You people disappoint me...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 19-09-2013, 13:09:41
Is it a hatch handle?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: sHaKeNbAkE on 19-09-2013, 17:09:45
Newbie responding/guessing! It looks like it could be a closeup of one of the wheels? (do they call them wheels!?  ;D)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 19-09-2013, 17:09:06
I still think TS is trying to fool us, that doesnt look like its made out of metal at all.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Chad1992 on 19-09-2013, 18:09:28
Ok how about a clue as to what nation this "tank" belongs to?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 19-09-2013, 19:09:19
it's either german or finnish, look at the base colour, it's grey. Soviet tanks were green. Although the russian front is 1943/4 so I guess it's something Finnish.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 19-09-2013, 19:09:29
It's an amphibian tank.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 19-09-2013, 20:09:47
Thanks for the info Ts, D Day is ready for FH2! ;)

(http://milsims.cdn.kept.com.au/sites/milsims.com.au/files/imagecache/product_full/prodimg/drr60424.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LuckyOne on 19-09-2013, 21:09:16
^ Not that tank! This one:

(http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/963/ofzl.jpg)

used here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vyborg%E2%80%93Petrozavodsk_Offensive
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Biiviz on 19-09-2013, 23:09:33
Looks like a part of some pontoon thingy around the vehicle. None of those have pontoons on them, though.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 20-09-2013, 09:09:08
Ts4EVER, can you actually see what the devs are cooking in the kitchen or are you just grabbing shit out of the garbage and throwing it at us?

 ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: NTH on 20-09-2013, 10:09:21
You might wanna suck his dick when you see what he has cooking for you  ;D And TS might even like it  :o
Development is progressing, but mostly depended on the amount of resources available.
So keep your butthole clenched a while longer.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 20-09-2013, 17:09:50
You might wanna suck his dick when you see what he has cooking for you  ;D And TS might even like it  :o
Development is progressing, but mostly depended on the amount of resources available.
So keep your butthole clenched a while longer.

 Umm that was totally inappropriate.

I was referring to the picture he posted, wondering if it was from an actual vehicle in development...

 and why are you fascinated with dick?

 :o
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Biiviz on 20-09-2013, 18:09:09
Because boo-boo words are funny.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kubador on 20-09-2013, 20:09:25
You all owe him a blowjob. You just don't know it yet. Be patient, it will all be revealed.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 20-09-2013, 20:09:52
So the upcoming update is something SO unseen?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 20-09-2013, 22:09:48
So the upcoming update is something SO unseen?

 Yes....Apparently Ts4EVER's penis will be revealed much to NTH's delight!

  and there is also a line expected to form so fans can blow him for his efforts.......


will he accept coupons or a gift card instead?
;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: NTH on 20-09-2013, 23:09:54
Just get on your knees already boy and do it  ;D. The map is worth it.
The map is about a world with out borders, where one man can change the tide of the war.  A woman in search of a dog. Coming soon...


And as member of the dick owning club I can proudly say Yes dammit there should be more appreciation of the dick. Woman should flock to us instead us hounding them.

Can I get a hell yes brother, don't leave it hanging there ...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 21-09-2013, 04:09:54
This thread is getting interesting. :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 21-09-2013, 05:09:02
This thread is getting interesting. :P

Indeed. 8)

The map is worth it.

I vote we theorize what map TS has made that will blow us and our collective dicks away...

it's a night winter map iirc?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 21-09-2013, 08:09:53
The map is worth it.
The map is about a world with out borders, where one man can change the tide of the war.  A woman in search of a dog. Coming soon...

Lets guess guys?  :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Godall on 21-09-2013, 12:09:15
OK, who can tell me which tank this is a part of?

(http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i390/TheNissi/Unbenannt_zps1859d5a9.jpg)


(http://i.imgur.com/FI7ymvB.png)

Come at me, bro.


It is Horsa bridge.

Me can somebody throw a model bridge and UV texture?

(http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/8968/picranvillebridgetruck.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Butcher on 21-09-2013, 13:09:55
Oh, the sign reads: "Bicycle lane. Closed for all vehicles." For the sake of historical accuracy we should have lots of bicycles on that map; like 20 or so.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Nissi on 21-09-2013, 14:09:58
Me can somebody throw a model bridge and UV texture?

What?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 21-09-2013, 15:09:35
I vote we theorize what map TS has made that will blow us and our collective dicks away...

it's a night winter map iirc?

Do you mean this one?
(http://imageshack.us/a/img822/8599/screen0011p.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 21-09-2013, 15:09:43
That looks like a nice map.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 21-09-2013, 15:09:22
who told you that it is his only map?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 21-09-2013, 15:09:23
Apparently Pizzaman can sneak around beta testers also. :P


Btw.. nice map. ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 21-09-2013, 15:09:18
It is not even his map... he just helps to finish it.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 21-09-2013, 15:09:27
Apparently Pizzaman can sneak around beta testers also. :P
I don't sneak around, I just have a good memory.  ;)


who told you that it is his only map?
It is not even his map... he just helps to finish it.
Interesting...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: titsmcgee852 on 23-09-2013, 16:09:20
Just get on your knees already boy and do it  ;D. The map is worth it.
The map is about a world with out borders, where one man can change the tide of the war.  A woman in search of a dog. Coming soon...


And as member of the dick owning club I can proudly say Yes dammit there should be more appreciation of the dick. Woman should flock to us instead us hounding them.

Can I get a hell yes brother, don't leave it hanging there ...
Epic post
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 23-09-2013, 17:09:13
It is not even his map... he just helps to fin(n)ish it.
We are getting closer by the minute! :o
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 23-09-2013, 17:09:08
Playing the other day, I got a suspicion.

What if the devs are going to troll us and remove everything except the Finnish and African front? Existing Normandy/Bulge maps are just renamed and vehicles and some statics replaced (and in some cases, attacker/defender reversed). St. Vith will become Viipuri, Hürtgenwald will become Ihantala, etc.

No. Wait. Africa is barren... Lapland is barren... they are going to transform Africa into Lapland War! Bardia will become Kemi, Tunis will become Rovaniemi... How does shooting down Stukas with a Brewster sound?

:P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 23-09-2013, 18:09:39
Holy shit great idea.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 06-10-2013, 14:10:43
I vote we theorize what map TS has made that will blow us and our collective dicks away...

it's a night winter map iirc?

Do you mean this one?
(http://imageshack.us/a/img822/8599/screen0011p.jpg)

That is Malmedy. I gave it to FHT, they will make some changes to it and then you can play it if you want.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 07-10-2013, 00:10:32
I somewhat doubt that.  :-X
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 07-10-2013, 00:10:06
I somewhat doubt that.  :-X

?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 07-10-2013, 21:10:23
?

What you said just doesn't add up. There are many questions and doubts I have about Malmedy:

-Was this a personal project for yourself/the public or was it aimed for the mod?
-Why on one pic of the map the minimap shows but on the others they are covered- looking at the minimap, it doesn't really show much of the map, so why cover the other ones?
-Lastly, if this map was for the mod, are you testing it with the tournaments?

Sorry for all the questions, it just seems odd you openly announced your map, instead of keeping it a secret..
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 07-10-2013, 21:10:30
Your brain probably get oveheated with too much conspiracies. It's a custom map which he gave to FHT because he can do what he want with his map, can't he? Malmedy has nothing to do with other map mentioned on this forum Ts4EVER is working on at the moment.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 07-10-2013, 21:10:33
?

What you said just doesn't add up. There are many questions and doubts I have about Malmedy:

-Was this a personal project for yourself/the public or was it aimed for the mod?
-Why on one pic of the map the minimap shows but on the others they are covered- looking at the minimap, it doesn't really show much of the map, so why cover the other ones?
-Lastly, if this map was for the mod, are you testing it with the tournaments?

Sorry for all the questions, it just seems odd you openly announced your map, instead of keeping it a secret..

It was always my dream to have a map in the mod, however, that takes practice and lots of maps that dont make it. This was one of the maps I made internally to practice and show off some skills. Maybe it will end up in the mod some day, although it would need some custom models.

(http://imageshack.us/scaled/thumb/822/iaxd.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/822/iaxd.jpg/)

This is the minimap.
It plays in the very early morning hours of December 21 1944 near Malmedy. The 150th Pazer Brigade, equipped with Panthers and Stugs modified to look like US vehicles attacks US forces with the intent of capturing Malmedy and the important cross roads there. In reality the assault was stopped by US artillery at the train dam after the early morning fog lifted.

(http://balagan.info/wp-content/images/war/crossfire/scenarios/malmedy/malmedy_PzV.jpg)

This is one of the fake M10 Panthers. The chimney in the background belongs to the Paper Factory, which is also ingame.

I made three game modes for it. For 64 players it can either be played in objective or sector push mode. In both modes the map is an infantry heavy "meatgrinder" type map, but with an emphasis on long range combat. The Germans will need to use their tanks to full effect in order to break though the American lines.

For 16 players there is a king of the hill mode where you fight for malmedy church.

I finished the map to teach me techniques like texturing, color correction, advanced lightmapping etc.

Some time ago I was approached by someone from Forgotten Honor because they needed maps for their Bulge campaign, so I gave it to them. I dont think it would work well in a tournament setting due to its meat grinder design, so I'm sure they will modify it heavily.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 07-10-2013, 21:10:07
Your brain probably get oveheated with too much conspiracies.
^This

My apologies for doubting your work, that looks like a very nice map.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 08-10-2013, 00:10:48
TS that map sounds awesome from a situation point of view. The thought of an FH map with modified/ deceptive equipment sounds awesome. 8) I'd love to see how it plays out and if it could be worked for the actual mod.

When you say it needs new models, the only thing that looks different on the Panther in the picture is the sheet metal welded onto its turret to disrupt is silhouette.

Could that be done the same way the shermans in-game carry different equipment and loadouts? ie the firefly is just the sherman V with a modification in the file telling the model to have a different turret?

So it could be done so that someone just had to model the sheet metal part and not remodel a whole new panther?

EDIT: also a reskin of the panther & stug into olive drab with the 5AD-10TB-BCo. Markings   
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 19-10-2013, 10:10:06
no conspiracies for almost two weeks? come on guys, don't dissapoint me.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 19-10-2013, 13:10:04
LOL, the BT version of "Why no newsupdate devs??!?"
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 19-10-2013, 18:10:35
Well I don't recall seeing anything about this in the thread so far, but it's obviously been in the files since 2.45 came out. This thread has been a bit quiet for a while so let's go nutjob (like 'moon landing' conspiracy) here 8)

A few weeks ago I noticed a USMC texture for the M3A1 Stuart in the files. ;) which (to my knowledge) can only be used on one front. So is it the wishful thinking of one dev making a texture JUST IN CASE development gets that far? Or is there a larger conspiracy a foot! :o

Conspire....
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 19-10-2013, 18:10:50
Pacific you mean? I think the devs made some stuff for all fronts in the start, but some fronts got cancelled. Remember the conspiracy about the origin of the models Kratzer donated to BG42.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 19-10-2013, 19:10:59
News updates would suggest that this version of the Stuart was made more 'recently' as a vehicle strictly for Sidi Bou Zid, and then Pointblank decided to make a Pacific skin for it for some reason. Another theory could be that Pointblank made this version of the Stuart for a Pacific front that was scrapped long ago, and he reskinned it when someone created a map it could be used on (a la Sidi Bou Zid). Another theory would be that the truth is something completely different ;)

Less drastic conspiracies: there have been Shermans and other vehicles with 1st Polish Armored Division markings in the files for some time. Mt. Ormel map still being worked on?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 19-10-2013, 19:10:10
Less drastic conspiracies: there have been Shermans and other vehicles with 1st Polish Armored Division markings in the files for some time. Mt. Ormel map still being worked on?
I need to crush your dreams, sorry.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 19-10-2013, 19:10:32
There is also loading music for Ormel in the files, and didnt betatesters say we might see Polish forces in the west in a far future?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 19-10-2013, 19:10:50
I've played some time ago Hill 762 map or sth like that - I wonder why this map hasn't been among other fh2 stock maps yet...   ::)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 19-10-2013, 19:10:16
Probably because nobody applied with it yet?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: titsmcgee852 on 20-10-2013, 02:10:45
Many you guys must have so many unfinished maps lying around. BF2 editor is a tough mistress it seems
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 20-10-2013, 03:10:01
On a completely unrelated note, @Ts4EVER, that avatar is amusing. ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 20-10-2013, 03:10:52
 After seeing that Gold Beach IS real, i have some hope of finally seeing the much rumored "Ste Mère-Église map featuring US Paratroops sooner rather than later.

 And perhaps maps with actual working lights & more destructible strategic items like bridges & making a tree fall across a road to block it.

 :-*
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 20-10-2013, 03:10:46
Many you guys must have so many unfinished maps lying around. BF2 editor is a tough mistress it seems

Well on the plus side actually have some almost finished maps lying around, too.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 20-10-2013, 03:10:21
 Has there every been and rumors regarding a map set during the "Operation Market Garden" time frame?

 :-\
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 20-10-2013, 03:10:24
Has there every been and rumors regarding a map set during the "Operation Market Garden" time frame?

 :-\

I made one back in the day, my first custom map.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 20-10-2013, 03:10:53
 I found this video? Who's map is this and is it finished?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_faKkWQo_k

 :-\
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 20-10-2013, 09:10:34
That's a remake of the 0.7 Arnhem by the looks of it?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: titsmcgee852 on 20-10-2013, 13:10:29
Many you guys must have so many unfinished maps lying around. BF2 editor is a tough mistress it seems

Well on the plus side actually have some almost finished maps lying around, too.
:-----) yay
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 20-10-2013, 13:10:21
What are the chances we might see'em? Soon or later? I really need something to break this stalemate.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 20-10-2013, 14:10:44
What are the chances we might see'em? Soon or later? I really need something to break this stalemate.

They will not be released before the tank combat isn't fixed and that is a huge task.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 20-10-2013, 14:10:17
I meant showcasing them, not releasing.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: radiosmersh on 20-10-2013, 17:10:47
I found this video? Who's map is this and is it finished?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_faKkWQo_k

 :-\
It is work of Frodo from bfewaw: http://bfewaw.com/archive/index.php/t-274810.html
It seems that this map is unfinished.
If you want, you can download it from here (http://goo.gl/VcKa5Sl).
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 20-10-2013, 18:10:10
...I really need something to break this stalemate.
you need it or just want it?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 20-10-2013, 18:10:38
Eh, not fatally, but I need.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 20-10-2013, 19:10:49
no conspiracies for almost two weeks? come on guys, don't dissapoint me.

Alright, I have a conspiracy for you all:

So after reading some of the book "The Blitzkrieg Legend", I have become more interested of the Battle of France in 1940. French Hope's "Stonne" was a brilliant and accurate depiction of the real life battle, generating a possibility to see it in the future FH2 patch.

So my conspiracy I have today is that what if the French are the main focus in the upcoming patch? And all this "gold beach", "Ste Mere Eglise", "France 1944"  are all diversions from the fact that devs are actually making France 1940 maps to go along with Stonne, since Cpt Bocquier seems to be inactive, with other duties. Think about it, in order to comfort the feel of France in 1940, it would require more than one map.

This all may be crazy, but what do you all think? (awaiting dreams to be crushed)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 20-10-2013, 19:10:03
That's a good conspiracy actually but unfortunately Cpt Bocquier is inactvie on the internal forum since August (he's a beta tester) so nobody know is he still working on French Hope. Maybe that's the reason he's inactive, maybe he's just busy with mapping but I think that he would show up on the forum from time to time if he wanted to apply with his map. ???

Dreams crushed much?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 21-10-2013, 03:10:16
I found this video? Who's map is this and is it finished?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_faKkWQo_k

 :-\
It is work of Frodo from bfewaw: http://bfewaw.com/archive/index.php/t-274810.html
It seems that this map is unfinished.
If you want, you can download it from here (http://goo.gl/VcKa5Sl).
Link is bad.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: radiosmersh on 21-10-2013, 06:10:04
I found this video? Who's map is this and is it finished?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_faKkWQo_k

 :-\
It is work of Frodo from bfewaw: http://bfewaw.com/archive/index.php/t-274810.html
It seems that this map is unfinished.
If you want, you can download it from here (http://goo.gl/VcKa5Sl).
Link is bad.
Oh, I accidentally added extra letter. Here is correct link: http://goo.gl/VcKa5S
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TASSER on 25-10-2013, 01:10:08
On this map allied forces start on the shore.  ;)

Think this means anything? Have there been any indications of other beach maps being worked on?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 25-10-2013, 02:10:09
I think it means that the next upcoming map(s) will be more inland than beachheads.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: titsmcgee852 on 25-10-2013, 15:10:51
What vehicles does everyone think will be on Gold Beach? Apart from what we already know of course.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 25-10-2013, 15:10:42
A few Shermans will be there if my historical knowledge is correct.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Musti on 25-10-2013, 16:10:54
Ummmm, is that enough for you? ;D
http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/fh2_maps.php?map=45
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 25-10-2013, 16:10:05
What vehicles does everyone think will be on Gold Beach? Apart from what we already know of course.
according to main page's map section I think it will be:

Great Britian:
Germany:

http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/fh2_maps.php?map=45 (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/fh2_maps.php?map=45)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 25-10-2013, 16:10:12
We finally get Dorchester in Western Front? YAY!  :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Eat Uranium on 25-10-2013, 16:10:10
This list of vehicles was skimmed directly from the current map files.  Missing is the Italian AA gun, and civilian vehicles.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 25-10-2013, 18:10:38
We finally get Dorchester in Western Front? YAY!  :D

Western Front AEC Dorchester could be conspiracy enough. ;) iirc someone had said the mappers were mainly moving away from putting commander assests on maps because they were useless.

The fact that they decided to put one on a new map (and take the time to give it a new olive drab texture I'm assuming) could mean they've devised a plan for commander.

Or it means nothing :P but this is a conspiracy thread so screw that! 8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TASSER on 25-10-2013, 19:10:51
TS mentioned in the recent announcements thread that they made a big leap in development the other day. Pumped about that. Also mentioned there would be a bunch of announcements leading up to the next release.

New gameplay stuff? Russian front? Finland? What are the thoughts!

God it feels good to be excited about FH again :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Eat Uranium on 25-10-2013, 19:10:45
We finally get Dorchester in Western Front? YAY!  :D
The fact that they decided to put one on a new map (and take the time to give it a new olive drab texture I'm assuming) could mean they've devised a plan for commander.
It has had a French texture version for years.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 25-10-2013, 20:10:29
TS mentioned in the recent announcements thread that they made a big leap in development the other day...
As there is a lot of great things upcoming I will let myself to crush your dreams on this one. The big leap in development mentioned by Ts4EVER isn't related with gameplay, new models, maps or new fronts (but you can still be excited about those :D ). The "leap" isn't even a thing which will make a big difference for a regular player, at least not at a first glance. But it is a thing which affects development process and will make future work much easier. In the end it will improve FH2 overall in long term.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 25-10-2013, 20:10:40
guessing time!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TASSER on 25-10-2013, 20:10:55
As there is a lot of great things upcoming I will let myself to crush your dreams on this one. The big leap in development mentioned by Ts4EVER isn't related with gameplay, new models, maps or new fronts (but you can still be excited about those :D ). The "leap" isn't even a thing which will make a big difference for a regular player, at least not at a first glance. But it is a thing which affects development process and will make future work much easier. In the end it will improve FH2 overall in long term.

Nice. Honestly, the little tweaks in the way the game performs are just as much fun as the new toys. That's part of what makes FH so great, it's so dynamic. Thanks for weighing in Jan!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Musti on 25-10-2013, 20:10:20
But it is a thing which affects development process and will make future work much easier. In the end it will improve FH2 overall in long term.
Dev's found a crate of cocainum and are running at 200% efficiency? :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 25-10-2013, 21:10:26
Haha, he thinks it is one crate!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: titsmcgee852 on 26-10-2013, 00:10:53
Oh hah didn't realise the map was already up in the wiki part. Anyway, I think that this 'big leap' is an updater application supplied by Project Reality. Am I close? :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 26-10-2013, 07:10:26
 Apparently Lightning has been passing out Bonus Checks!!


 :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 26-10-2013, 09:10:15
Oh hah didn't realise the map was already up in the wiki part. Anyway, I think that this 'big leap' is an updater application supplied by Project Reality. Am I close? :P
supplied? what?  ???
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: titsmcgee852 on 26-10-2013, 14:10:12
Supplied/swapped/given, you know what I mean.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 26-10-2013, 14:10:18
Yeah I know, hence my confusion. Why PR would give anything to FH2? And why FH2 Devs would like PR to give them anything? Purpose of making a mod is to create stuff by yourself. That would be ridiculous.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Musti on 26-10-2013, 15:10:13
They made their own? AWESOME!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: titsmcgee852 on 26-10-2013, 17:10:09
Yeah I know, hence my confusion. Why PR would give anything to FH2? And why FH2 Devs would like PR to give them anything? Purpose of making a mod is to create stuff by yourself. That would be ridiculous.
Because I know that you guys have traded/given things in the past so it wouldn't be out of the question... Besides, if there was anything that would've been traded/given, it would've been the auto-updater because it would've been shit hard to make from scratch, especially given that there isn't that much manpower left.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 26-10-2013, 17:10:56
No, theirs autoupdater wouldn't work with FH2 it would be actually easier to create one from scratch.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: titsmcgee852 on 27-10-2013, 01:10:09
Ah okay, why is that anyway?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 08-11-2013, 01:11:27
Interesting... ;)

(http://www.ramonvantloo.nl/blog/wp-content/uploads/goldbeach-300x300.png)

(http://www.ramonvantloo.nl/blog/wp-content/uploads/kuuter-300x300.png)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 08-11-2013, 02:11:36
So Kuuterselka is the name of our beloved Finnish Map

where'd you snag these from btw?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 08-11-2013, 02:11:39
Aint beloved if you ask me.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 08-11-2013, 02:11:25
Interesting... ;)
Those have been up there for a while ago. But the question is: which Finnish map is Kuuterselka??  ???
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 08-11-2013, 03:11:13
[...] where'd you snag these from btw?

I got them off Rvtl's/Schism's public portfolio. ;)


Also this is what he achieved in the CryENGINE 3 SDK (public too)...

(http://www.ramonvantloo.nl/blog/wp-content/uploads/field-7-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 08-11-2013, 05:11:15
I think I saw the Kuuterselka skybox in the files some while ago.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TASSER on 08-11-2013, 13:11:43
Aint beloved if you ask me.

Not a fan of the map, Flippy?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 08-11-2013, 13:11:02
he hates it
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 08-11-2013, 14:11:32
Hate is a strong word, which I wouldnt use in this situation.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 08-11-2013, 18:11:15
Hehe, Roughbeak on the plugging tour again, lol. Bad trick.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: sn00x on 08-11-2013, 20:11:10
Now now, remember flippy i made Kuuterselka out of orders!  :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: NTH on 08-11-2013, 21:11:14
Kuut is a nice change of scenery. Would love to see in public in the near future.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 08-11-2013, 22:11:27
Too bad it aint historically pleasing.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: titsmcgee852 on 09-11-2013, 03:11:05
Is that the only reason you don't like it or are there other reasons?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 09-11-2013, 09:11:59
It's probably the only reason. He can't understand that for most people Finland is nothing more than a lot of trees and few saunas. From that perspective map is 100% acurate. Basing on my personal memories I would only add some mosquitoes to it  ;)

To be serious, map is great and it has one of the best infantry gameplay so far, just imagine those finnish and russian SMGs with crazy rate of fire and big big ammo capacity on both sides ;D but I can understand that Flippy doesn't like it. If someone will ever create innacurate map about polish 1939 september campaign I most likely won't like it (and hang the mapper by his balls on a dry branch)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Leopardi on 09-11-2013, 15:11:10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=vGtpiUPeank#t=183

Kuuterselkä in a nutshell  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Lightning on 09-11-2013, 17:11:36
Funny story about Kuuterselka.

During testing we got some very strange FPS drops that only happened when there were more than 20 people on the server. We figured (logically) that it might be a problem with the new player models, so we had everyone meet up in the centre of the map, but oddly, there was now no lag at all.

As we're discussing what the problem might be, the beta testers start screwing around and suddenly we notice the lag creeping in again.

Getting an idea, I asked everyone to suicide and come back with either a PPsH-41 or a KP/-31 Suomi. So everyone meets up again and I say "Ok, at the count of 3 shoot your entire magazine up into the air. 3... 2... 1...".

My FPS dropped from 60 to 0.5...

Turns out the little empty bullet shell models we far too complicated and 1200 of the little buggers interacting with the environment at the same time was more than any PC could handle.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 09-11-2013, 17:11:31
...the new player models...

:D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Stubbfan on 09-11-2013, 18:11:16
Damnit, now i have to be the dream crusher. There are no new playermodels!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 09-11-2013, 18:11:18
Damnit, now i have to be the dream crusher. There are no new playermodels!

 :(
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Lightning on 09-11-2013, 18:11:41
Well, it was a really long time ago, maybe I remembered it wrongly.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Stubbfan on 09-11-2013, 18:11:42
or .. do we.. who knows.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 09-11-2013, 19:11:56
Damnit, now i have to be the dream crusher. There are no new playermodels!

LIES!

As for what Lightning said, how screwed up were those shells? xD
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Musti on 09-11-2013, 19:11:44
Damnit, now i have to be the dream crusher. There are no new playermodels!
I trust Stubbfan, he wouldn't lie to us.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: titsmcgee852 on 10-11-2013, 01:11:15
Do mysteries like that often happen Lightning?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 10-11-2013, 09:11:04
Do mysteries like that often happen Lightning?
I don't think that such things happen very often but performance checks on WIP maps are common thing and we often find random FPS drops here and there which need to be fixed before map will be released. The reason of those is in most cases different, though.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Lightning on 10-11-2013, 10:11:04
Do mysteries like that often happen Lightning?
No, not really. Most of the problems are usually pretty obvious.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 10-11-2013, 10:11:05
What was the weirdest/funniest bug that happened during betatesting?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 10-11-2013, 11:11:33
What was the weirdest/funniest bug that happened during betatesting?
Nice try to get some info about current development.

My purpose wasnt that, but oh well, who wouldnt enjoy hearing some secrets.

Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 10-11-2013, 14:11:57
What was the weirdest/funniest bug that happened during betatesting?
There were some weird bugs in 2.2 (Normandy patch), like when a Brit entered a Hanomag on PeB and then switched seats, the server crashed. It had something to do with teamlocking.

And there was the infamous Zwilling bug  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 10-11-2013, 15:11:53
Server crashers are the most annoying bugs. When there is something what causes crashes, server is running and we managed to join the map, there is always "don't use xxxx" spam all over the chat/teamspeak so we could at least check if other things work as intended, and then some late tester join the game and says "hi guys" making last warning disappear from the chat, unaware of crasher he spawns with bugged kit or use broken vehicle and we're back to square one again :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Eat Uranium on 10-11-2013, 18:11:46
What was the weirdest/funniest bug that happened during betatesting?
The time during 2.2 testing when we discovered that the grappling hook was causing problems.  Basically, there was 1 hook, that was modified mapside for PdH to have a longer throw and longer rope.  The problem was that your client would remember the throw length from whatever map you joined the server with, causing people to be unable to throw the ropes up to the top of the cliff on PdH, or more hilariously, to throw the short ropes miles on other maps.

This was extra hilarious, because the server would take a second or so to work it out, so you would throw the short rope a short distance, people could get on it, and then the server would correct the throw to a far throw, causing mass teleportations.

This is why the grappling hooks are no longer on Giarabub (as shown in the 2.15 trailer).
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 10-11-2013, 22:11:48
This is why the grappling hooks are no longer on Giarabub (as shown in the 2.15 trailer).

So is this ultimately still un-fixable? I always wondered why the grappling hooks were removed on girara, and would personally like to see them back.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: sn00x on 10-11-2013, 23:11:09
Well, it was a really long time ago, maybe I remembered it wrongly.

All i need to remember is the tonns of fun we had!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 11-11-2013, 01:11:02
Italians in that map have a hard enough time defending, if we have the grapples back.. wow...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 11-11-2013, 02:11:02
Italians in that map have a hard enough time defending, if we have the grapples back.. wow...

Really? ??? There's only 6 or so entrances to the fort + unlimited recon class x 2 s-mines per class. From my experience, it's a massacre at every entrance with Aussies either prone crawling and getting murdered as they pour through the holes in the wall, or ignorant teammates wiping a squad with one run through the 'minefield.' A slightly coordinated Italian team can leave the Aussies sitting in their base all round imo.
The times I see otherwise are during 64+ rounds, when the sheer numbers are too much for the Italians and the Aussies eventually get a SL through. (after Stalingrad type death numbers at the walls)

Although overall I think this map is balanced and don't think it favors one team or another. Grappling hooks MIGHT undo that a bit. But thinking back, I don't remember a time in 2.15 where grappling hooks were ever being complained about as giving the Aussies an edge (but I don't remember them being in 2.15 tbh :P). If anything I'd think it might take away from the blood baths at the entrances and open up the map a bit more.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 11-11-2013, 09:11:32
Well, yeah. I'm with Roughbeak on this one. Giving grappling hooks back, no matter how cool they are, would make this map extremely unbalanced.

On the other hand, limiting recon class (just like on Tunis) could be cool. There should be more shooting instead of blocking every bottleneck with mines.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 12-11-2013, 17:11:01
 Change of direction question.....

Wondering if FH ever made any Official maps that had beach landings with armies other than USA or GB.


 ???
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 12-11-2013, 17:11:31
Karelia.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 12-11-2013, 17:11:36
Wake Island nad Adak Island (on both americans defend and japs are landing). I don't know do you want other army than USA or GB that lands or map without them at all. If we're talking no USA or GB no matter which side they are, then Battle of Stalingrad. Also there was Anzio and Juno in one of (official) map packs AFAIK (Juno is D-Day map with Canadians and you could use landing crafts on Anzio and there were Canadians as well)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 12-11-2013, 18:11:06
Anzio was an American and British operation.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: katakulli on 12-11-2013, 18:11:34
japs
That's a racist term.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 12-11-2013, 20:11:01
japanese?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Chad1992 on 12-11-2013, 23:11:02
Well, yeah. I'm with Roughbeak on this one. Giving grappling hooks back, no matter how cool they are, would make this map extremely unbalanced.
Just make the grappling kits, pick up ones, maybe one at each spawn point for the aussies.  Or simply add make a point that the aussies capture near the walls, that spawns ladders, giving them more options.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 13-11-2013, 19:11:50
Just make the grappling kits, pick up ones, maybe one at each spawn point for the aussies.
This would be in if it was possible, but since it doesn't work (see some earlier posts about this) they aren't in anymore.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 07-12-2013, 18:12:18
Quote
In other news, we are still working hard to get the Eastern Front ready, and you should expect to see some more Soviet and German equipment from that theatre in the news. But we might also have a few other surprises before the Eastern Front patch. Keep a look out for some new scenarios and content in our current theatres.

From a news update a looong time ago. So, was it Gold Beach that is mentioned here?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 07-12-2013, 18:12:09
From a news update a looong time ago. So, was it Gold Beach that is mentioned here?
That would be one scenario and that news update mentioned scenarios ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 07-12-2013, 18:12:02
From a news update a looong time ago. So, was it Gold Beach that is mentioned here?
That would be one scenario and that news update mentioned scenarios ;)

Oh!.....  :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 07-12-2013, 23:12:10
Gold Beach was honestly a surprise to me. I'm sure the devs have other maps that are WIP for current theaters, but I can't think of any that have been hinted at nor have I seen any on the test server.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 07-12-2013, 23:12:02
What I wonder is, what does the text in the newsupdate mean by theatre and scenario: a specific place like N. Africa, France,etc... Or a Front/Campaign/(faction)?

Not sure  if I made myself clear, but I hope you get it.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 08-12-2013, 00:12:07
Anything is possible, but I have a slight hint that it could be 1940 France.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 08-12-2013, 00:12:41
Being realistic I'd say that scenario is just another way of saying map, as Gold Beach is a new 'scenario' in the current 'theater' of Normandy that's been in-game.

But since this is a conspiracies thread its obviously the Brazilian Expeditionary Force in the Battle of Collecchio 8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: DaWorg! on 08-12-2013, 22:12:27
Just make the grappling kits, pick up ones, maybe one at each spawn point for the aussies.
This would be in if it was possible, but since it doesn't work (see some earlier posts about this) they aren't in anymore.

Grappling hook kits on PDH seem to be working just fine
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 09-12-2013, 22:12:17
Just make the grappling kits, pick up ones, maybe one at each spawn point for the aussies.
This would be in if it was possible, but since it doesn't work (see some earlier posts about this) they aren't in anymore.

Grappling hook kits on PDH seem to be working just fine
Please read the earlier posts I was referring to, then you'd know I was talking about the grappling hooks on Giarabub ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 10-12-2013, 01:12:14
Interestingly enough, earlier  I saw Giarabub on a test server with devs/betatesters.

Maybe this means there could be something Italian coming up?  :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: titsmcgee852 on 10-12-2013, 02:12:20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWdT2xfh5aQ cheeky!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Korsakov829 on 10-12-2013, 04:12:40
What I wonder is, what does the text in the newsupdate mean by theatre and scenario: a specific place like N. Africa, France,etc... Or a Front/Campaign/(faction)?

Not sure  if I made myself clear, but I hope you get it.
Interestingly enough, earlier  I saw Giarabub on a test server with devs/betatesters.

Maybe this means there could be something Italian coming up?  :)

Road to Rome? Oh that would be so cool, can't wait to play that in three years or whenever.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 10-12-2013, 05:12:43
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWdT2xfh5aQ cheeky!

It was allready posted in another thread.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: titsmcgee852 on 10-12-2013, 13:12:27
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWdT2xfh5aQ cheeky!

It was allready posted in another thread.
And now it's in this one
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 13-12-2013, 22:12:35
http://www.bytehazard.com/fhscreens/fhscreen23.jpg

Came across this picture yesterday, looks like a beautiful FH2 pacific landscape. Maybe this was a test map or scrapped map? I can see the film grain so its definantly after 2.4.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kubador on 10-03-2014, 20:03:13
No one speculating on anything for 3 months?

BLASPHEMY!

anyway, I'm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QU-NvRWkVA&feature=youtu.be&t=1m
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 10-03-2014, 21:03:32
Ts4EVER's video hinted at another map in the next patch...

 Could it be......

1 - Sainte-Mère-Église
2 - Foy
3 - Pegasus Bridge
4 - Juno Beach
5 - Mont Ormel
6 - Puffendorf
7 - An Italian Army map

Post your selection



Also, will the next patch be 128 player compatible?

 :-\
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 10-03-2014, 22:03:05
64 player maps are 128p compatible 90% of the time. What makes 128p so great is that it allows high player densities on fairly big 64p maps.

About my own map: It's about an obscure battle in Northern France, I wouldn't bother with it.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 11-03-2014, 01:03:37
Ts4EVER's video hinted at another map in the next patch...

 Could it be......

1 - Sainte-Mère-Église
2 - Foy
3 - Pegasus Bridge
4 - Ste Mère Église
5 - Gold Beach
6 - Juno Beach
7 - Mont Ormel
8 - Puffendorf
9 - Foy
10 - An Italian Army map

Post your selection
why do you have Ste Mère Église twice and already announced Gold Beach on that list?  ???
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Tankbuster on 11-03-2014, 04:03:52
Because it is double awesome, duh :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 11-03-2014, 06:03:29
fixed

Copy/Paste error with a dash of im running late for work


It has to be one of these 3:


1 -Sainte-Mère-Église
3 - Pegasus Bridge
4 - Juno Beach


 8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 11-03-2014, 13:03:25
fixed

Copy/Paste error with a dash of im running late for work


It has to be one of these 3:


1 -Sainte-Mère-Église
3 - Pegasus Bridge
4 - Juno Beach


 8)

Nice sleuthing there. But which one?  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LuckyOne on 11-03-2014, 14:03:05
^ I vote for Pegasus! A remake (with the increasing trend of remakes) would be in order! It's a relatively small map anyway, the only thing that would need lots of work to make is the bridge itself (or is it already made  ::) )

Or Eglise... But that wouldn't be a remake. :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Chad1992 on 11-03-2014, 17:03:48
Pegasus, because FH2 needs another map with the gliders.  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 11-03-2014, 18:03:44
 O.K. here is my theory breakdown:

THE EVIDENCE

1 -Sainte-Mère-Église:

First seen on "seen on test server": 10/2009


3 - Pegasus Bridge: - No mention of this map except from a custom mapper that hasnt updated progress for 2+ years



4 - Juno Beach:

First seen on "seen on test server": 10/2009

- Mention of Juno has haunted the change-log since 2010




It looks as if 1 & 3 have been cooking in FH2's Lab for almost 5 years now   ....hmmmmm


Im going with Sainte-Mère-Église.......bring on the Screaming Eagles!!!

 8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: RAnDOOm on 11-03-2014, 18:03:27
No ideia of what is coming but looking at all these conspiracies i think the devs are laughing at all of us in secret and watching this clip at the same time:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY5KTVA_2ys&t=1m23s

 ;D

Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 11-03-2014, 19:03:30
fixed

Copy/Paste error with a dash of im running late for work


It has to be one of these 3:


1 -Sainte-Mère-Église
3 - Pegasus Bridge
4 - Juno Beach


 8)

What if its none of them?  ???
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 11-03-2014, 20:03:25
Dunkirk is north of all those points ;) just sayin'

But I'd say Randoom's got the closest guess so far ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst on 11-03-2014, 22:03:57
Dieppe as well...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 11-03-2014, 23:03:55
As is Walcheren...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kubador on 11-03-2014, 23:03:32
I don't see any Caen in suggestions.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 12-03-2014, 00:03:40
...with the increasing trend of remakes...
Which remakes? You mean Gold Beach? It covers the same battle as FH1 map but it isn't similiar to that one at all, I would never call it a remake.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: ksl94 on 12-03-2014, 23:03:01
Does anyone know if the Eastern Front is scheduled to make an appearance in the next release?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 12-03-2014, 23:03:06
It wont, as it is not finished yet.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hjaldrgud on 13-03-2014, 01:03:59
It wont, as it is not finished yet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmrJx32xefM
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: ksl94 on 13-03-2014, 01:03:06
Ah well, thank you for the qualification although I was hoping for a different answer  :-\ !
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 13-03-2014, 01:03:07
It was stated multiple times in the past and I thought it was a common knowlegde already but I will repeat it again for those who have any doubts for what ever reason: upcoming patch won't include eastern front. But well, I usually lie about upcoming stuff so who knows?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 13-03-2014, 08:03:49
I don't see any Caen in suggestions.

 The list was spur of the moment, but i tried to only include maps that had actually been seen on the test server.

 I would assume there are maps the Devs have never spoken about or allowed to be seen, that are 4+ yrs old & that will eventually be released at some point.......

Am i right?
 :-\
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Rabbit032 on 14-03-2014, 04:03:53
Generally just about all mod teams are that way.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Viikkasota on 14-03-2014, 12:03:24
Is there going to be prone animations for all weapons in FH2 sometime?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 14-03-2014, 12:03:27
No, because they screw up reload animations when you prone while reloading.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Viikkasota on 14-03-2014, 13:03:40
No, because they screw up reload animations when you prone while reloading.
But they add so much more immersion. Project Reality has them and the screwing up reload animations part don't bug me. FH2 already has going down and standing up animations for some weapons, MP-40 being one of them and those screw up reload animations too.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 14-03-2014, 13:03:31
Yes, because the MP40 and Thompson M1928 were the first weapons animated and that's when they noticed.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Viikkasota on 14-03-2014, 14:03:34
Yes, because the MP40 and Thompson M1928 were the first weapons animated and that's when they noticed.
Well, why they haven't been edited then?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Chad1992 on 14-03-2014, 14:03:09
 I have to wonder how many new things the devs have added or changed and they haven't/won't tell us about?  :o
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 14-03-2014, 14:03:29
Yes, because the MP40 and Thompson M1928 were the first weapons animated and that's when they noticed.
Well, why they haven't been edited then?

My guess is they said: "Well I guess we won't need to do these animations anymore, but since these two are already in..."
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kubador on 14-03-2014, 14:03:05
Yes, because the MP40 and Thompson M1928 were the first weapons animated and that's when they noticed.
Well, why they haven't been edited then?

Time cost to final result ratio was negative.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: ksl94 on 15-03-2014, 18:03:55
Please add the proper crawling animations for all weapons. I just looks so utterly retarded the way it is now! Besides you cannot continously reload while going prone in real life either. That is just like dolphin diving and bunny hopping. Something that ought to be discouraged and eliminated by any means.  :-\
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: hyperanthropos on 15-03-2014, 20:03:50
Please give us cool new vehicles, weapons, statics and maps and dont bother with such stuff.
My Opinion on the matter...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: |7th|Nighthawk on 15-03-2014, 20:03:53
It is not necessary for now in my opinion but I just love detail and FH2 already has a lot of it . Would be nice to have in a far future to round it up :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 06-04-2014, 15:04:22
Please add the proper crawling animations for all weapons. I just looks so utterly retarded the way it is now! Besides you cannot continously reload while going prone in real life either. That is just like dolphin diving and bunny hopping. Something that ought to be discouraged and eliminated by any means.  :-\
We don't have active animator ATM, so sorry, no crawling animations for now, but I think we can look on it after the release. I admit that it is an immersion killer but it isn't a game blocker. Also, disabling reload while in move in prone position is probably not possible codding wise.

btw, how was that a conspiracy?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Viikkasota on 06-04-2014, 18:04:29
btw, how was that a conspiracy?
Well I started the discussion about crawling animations and I thought that it may be somehow related to this thread because people in this thread are discussing about possible new things coming to FH2 and another reason, I posted here is because this thread is popular. But maybe I could have posted to the minor suggestions thread too.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Wulfburk on 06-04-2014, 19:04:52
Not a conspiracy but how much maps are confirmed or "almost sure" to be added in 2.46?

Hopefully it wont be like 2.45... No offence meant of course, but waiting close to two years for three maps, one which i absolutely hate (sidi bou zid) quite sucked.... Not that im that worried since im most certain i will love Omaha and specially Gold beach!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 06-04-2014, 19:04:30
There will be two maps next patch.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Wulfburk on 06-04-2014, 19:04:17
Lovely!  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 06-04-2014, 20:04:40
Not a conspiracy but how much maps are confirmed or "almost sure" to be added in 2.46?

Hopefully it wont be like 2.45... No offence meant of course, but waiting close to two years for three maps, one which i absolutely hate (sidi bou zid) quite sucked.... Not that im that worried since im most certain i will love Omaha and specially Gold beach!
hurr durr map sucked because I don't like it!  ;D

You have to keep in mind a long development brake after 2.45 release but don't you worry, there are many WIP maps still to be finished and released sooner or later. I think upcoming patches will only be more and more interesting ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 06-04-2014, 20:04:17
We need a reinforcement of conspiracies on this thread!

Soooooo,

Do you guys think there is the rest of the H39 Hotchkiss tank turret that is present on the Omaha map?  :D Or even more French stuff? We have seen a couple French content in the changelog, I should remind.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Wulfburk on 06-04-2014, 22:04:31
Quote
hurr durr map sucked because I don't like it!  ;D


I didnt say that. I said it sucked to get only three maps after a long time without any updates (and i pointed out that one of these maps i didnt liked it. aka Sid Bou zid)

Quote
You have to keep in mind a long development brake after 2.45 release but don't you worry, there are many WIP maps still to be finished and released sooner or later. I think upcoming patches will only be more and more interesting ;)

Yeah i know there are like close to a dozen wip maps and most spotted on those Test servers, im only wondering how much of those we'll see at 2.46.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 06-04-2014, 22:04:23
As I said, 2.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 06-04-2014, 23:04:36
Now that its settled we're having 2 maps in the upcoming patch, what else should we expect until the release? Any more vehicles? Weapons? Game modes? Skins? Voices...  ;D?


Do you guys think there is the rest of the H39 Hotchkiss tank turret that is present on the Omaha map?  :D Or even more French stuff? We have seen a couple French content in the changelog, I should remind.
We now have a H39 turret and chassis, I would imagine there is more.  :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 07-04-2014, 08:04:20
 Well, there is this really big rumor that the Devs will have a solution to the GAMEPSY ordeal.

 Im curious how this situation will effect online gaming in years to come.

 ;)

 
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 07-04-2014, 08:04:01
Will there be any changes to the existing maps?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 07-04-2014, 10:04:07
Visually no (except some minor detail fixes), but codding wise, a lot.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 12-04-2014, 17:04:48
Essentially double posting, but the changelog should bring fresh tinfoil into this topic.
WUT DA ZOG
  * You and me barndoor.. swords at dawn.  (stubbfan)
  * Add gleaver class turretguns that supports 1 man 2 turret control.  (stubbfan)
  * Add the new 1 man 2 turret control to gleaverclass ship.  (stubbfan)
  * Dragon Fist.  Part II - Levels (gavrant)
  * Dragon Fist.  Part I - Objects/Kits (gavrant)
  * Hold Ground gamemode (spitfire)
  * Fix commander xxl arty (kev4000)
  * MG34 standing fire reverted (mayhemic)
  * MG42 standing fire reverted (mayhemic)

FRENCH HOPE
  * Somua and H39 turret exports.  (stubbfan)
  * Stonne update (stubbfan)
  * Increase french 47mm penetration to 40mm (kev4000)
  * France green tracers plus reibel coax (kev4000)
  * Simplified somua projectile collisionmesh (kev4000)
  * Coaxial reibel to tanks (kev4000)
  * Stonne: Put stuff in layers (stubbfan)
  * French kits use helmet (kev4000)
  * Stonne roadsign (kev4000)
  * Hotchkiss 1914 export (kev4000)
  * Stonne update (kev4000)
  * Stonne update (kev4000)
  * 75mm model 1897 export (kev4000)
  * French flags added (stubbfan)
  * French flags for HUD (stubbfan)
  * France win/lose music (stubbfan)
  * France minimap flags (stubbfan)
  * France music and injury sounds loading (stubbfan)

POLANDBALL IS NOT DEAD YET
  * Colmesh col0 fix for M5a1 Stuart polish version (stubbfan)

MOAR BOAR WANTS MOAR NORMANDY
  * Pegasus first beta (otolikos)
  * Sten MK5 (kev4000)
  * Sten MK5 3p anims (kev4000)
  * Remove ignore.txt for pegasus bridge (otolikos)
  * M4a1 76 flamethrower (kev4000)
  * Ranville Bridge (gurdy)
  * Pegasus Bridge control room (gurdy)
  * Pegasus bridge ready for beta testing (nissi)
  * St_mere_eglise - mapdata.py - objective mode bugfix by Cpt_Bocquier - removed non-existing
    objectives (mayhemic)
  * Return of stmere eglise to beta (kev4000)
  * Unignore british airborne soldier (kev4000)
  * Dennison smock sleeves (kev4000)

SIEG ODER SIEGFRIED LINE
  * Puffendorf.  Add russiaignore.txt (stubbfan)
  * Puffendorf equipment test (kev4000)
  * Siegfried Line WIP map (natty)

PERKELE
  * Kuuterselka.  Add russiaignore.txt (stubbfan)
  * Ilomantsi.  Add russiaignore.txt (stubbfan)
  * LS/26 (kraetzer)
  * Ls26 code WIP (kev4000)
  * Finn machinegunner LS26 (kev4000)
  * Ilomantsi - new mapdata.py (mayhemic)
  * Puukko upscale and lods (kev4000)
  * Ilomantsi update.  New Overgrowth, ambients sounds, reworked gameplay + teamSPs.  Someone need
    to check if mapdata.py is working correctly.  (fhbeta_keimummy)
  * Kuuterselka update (kev4000)
  * Kuuterselka update (schism)
  * Kuuterselka missing texture (schism)
  * Russian/Finn kit updates (kev4000)
  * Suomi SMG optimizations (kev4000)
  * DT for Finnish MG gunner (kev4000)
  * Kuuterselka update - Lightsettings are WIP! (schism)
  * Update ilomantsi (kev4000)
  * Add Ilomantsi to beta (schism)
  * Ilomantsi update (schism)
  * Finn satchel animations (kev4000)
  * Kuuter update (kev4000)
  * Fix stug40 finnish physics (kev4000)
  * Finnish walking artillery (kev4000)
  * Finnish satchel (kev4000)
  * Kuuter 1024x1 map (kev4000)
  * Kuuterselka return (kev4000)

WE IL-2 NAOUW
  * Fix La-5 crash on overlord.  (stubbfan)
  * Added M.S.406 - Forgot max file.  (herc)
  * Sd50 fragmentation bomb code (kev4000)
  * He111 wip code (kev4000)
  * IL-2 Initial Export.  Code is WIP but it flies like a sir.  (stubbfan)
  * Il-2 con and tweak.. oops (stubbfan)
  * Hs129 handling test (kev4000)
  * Po2 experiment (kev4000)
  * Il-2 newest export scene (stubbfan)
  * Po2 rocket variant, il2 and hs129 updates (kev4000)
  * Russian airforce tunes (kev4000)
  * Ju87 RL speed (kev4000)
  * Hs129 export no cockpit (kev4000)

WE WANT NATALIA TO CROSS-EXAMINE US FANCLUB
  * Add Stug40_1945 variant.  Using inc files like the marderIIIm on ramelle etc.  (stubbfan)
  * Hetzer_1945 variant added.  (stubbfan)
  * Hetzer_1945 variant fix.  (stubbfan)
  * Zielona Gora 1944: More Stuff (kettcar)
  * Zielona Gora.  Replace ignore.txt with russiaignore.txt (stubbfan)
  * Zielona Gora 1944: Lightmaps (kettcar)
  * Kharkov.  Add russiaignore.txt (stubbfan)
  * Prokhorovka.  Add russiaignore.txt (stubbfan)
  * Crimea.  Add russiaignore.txt (stubbfan)
  * Seelow.  russiaignore.txt (stubbfan)
  * Seelow: updated push mode, fixed kits, changed ticket bleed for the Germans (gavrant)
  * Fix networkable crash on katjusha (stubbfan)
  * Make M30 usable as artillery (spitfire)
  * Seelow Heights update.  Massive amounts of fixes/changes (stubbfan)
  * Seelow Heights update.  2 new flags, trench systems etc.  Refer to testers map section for more
    details.  (stubbfan)
  * Zielona Gora update.  Basic bf2 textures, roads etc.  (stubbfan)
  * Kharkov outskirts update (kev4000)
  * Kharkov outskirts post-update (gavrant)
  * Mosin carbines (kev4000)
  * Mosin carbine icons and more (kev4000)
  * Scout and engineer mosin carbines (kev4000)
  * Kharkov update (kev4000)
  * Seelow heights alpha by schism (kev4000)
  * Russian dressing (kev4000)
  * Russian binoculars coded (kev4000)
  * RDG 1 smoke grenade export (kev4000)
  * 45mm scale fixes (kev4000)
  * Fix t20 engine sound, MG, and two more passengers (kev4000)
  * Kharkov outskirts update (kev4000)
  * Kharkov outskirts update and fix (kev4000)
  * T20 seperate driver and gunner (kev4000)
  * New russian pickup kits (kev4000)
  * Rocket light only on takeoff (kev4000)
  * Russian explosives icons (kev4000)
  * Gaz 69 wreck, lods, roof, and more (kev4000)
  * Proper m1942 45mm (kev4000)
  * Pomz 2 setup (kev4000)
  * DT machinegun handheld export (kev4000)
  * Rpg43 optimization and code (kev4000)
  * Dp28 and dt inf 3p anims (kev4000)
  * Prokhorovka update (knoffhoff)
  * Kharkov outskirts update (kev4000)
  * Russian weapon dropkits (kev4000)
  * Pomz2 for Russian scout (kev4000)
  * RE PickUp antitank kits (kev4000)
  * Nagant and RPG43 as Russian antitank (kev4000)
  * T26 export update (kev4000)
  * Zis2 static (kev4000)
  * Update t20 export (kev4000)
  * Su76su12t50 tracks no transparancy (kev4000)
  * Zis2 APCR map specific (kev4000)
  * 45mm two seater (kev4000)
  * T34 physics tune (kev4000)
  * Su152 lods and more (kev4000)
  * Kharkov outskirts update (kev4000)
  * Added T-70 Light Tank (toddel)
  * T70 initial export (kev4000)
  * Apcr ammo for t26 and bt7 (kev4000)
  * Tankovaja mina 35 lods and tweaks (kev4000)
  * Added Prokhorovka to beta (knoffhoff)
  * T50 update colmesh (kev4000)
  * Kharkov outskirts update (kev4000)
  * Update ba64 export (kev4000)
  * Update m30 122mm export (kev4000)
  * Kharkov outskirts update (kev4000)
  * T50 higher max speed (kev4000)
  * Maxim MG quad AA placeholder (kev4000)
  * Maxim mg tripod 360d swivel (kev4000)
  * Nerf su152 explosion damage (kev4000)
  * Maxim MG sokolov stand (kev4000)
  * Mosin nagant bayonet test (kev4000)
  * Kharkov outskirts update (kev4000)
  * Kharkov m3 scoutcar (kev4000)
  * Kharkov outskirts update (kev4000)
  * Berezin MG WIP export (kev4000)
  * Zis3 static export (kev4000)
  * Dp and dt spinning mags (kev4000)
  * Pps43 animations (kev4000)
  * Tt33 animations (kev4000)
  * Russian commander rocket arty (kev4000)
  * Kharkov outskirts to beta (kev4000)
  * Complete zis3 separate gunner driver and LoDs (kev4000)
  * Zis2 complete (kev4000)
  * Crimea - Fenring Version updated by Shism RVTL to SVN (stubbfan)
  * Russian pickup snipers (kev4000)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Surfbird on 12-04-2014, 18:04:17
Thanks for bringing things in order Kelmola. I see a lot of wonderful stuff :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 12-04-2014, 23:04:44
There are some very interesting and exciting stuff written in the changelog... ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 12-04-2014, 23:04:02
Interesting to see that even after the Tsar Bomba (Napoleon Bomba?) -sized dramabomb and its fallout and after devteam's assurances that there are no American infidels in Baghdad plans to pursue France 1940, Stonne is still being developed and French content is still actively added including the MS406 (of course that can be used in the Finnish maps as well).

Kharkov - is this one or two maps because it is referred to as both Kharkov and Kharkov Outskirts?

Also, He 111. A sign of more medium level bombers incoming?

Dragon Fist - now this sounds interesting. WHAT ARE THEY HIDING FROM US?

Hold Ground gamemode? Wut wut?

Finally, should we already start calling 2.47 as the "Paralympics" due to Pegasus and Ste Mere Eglise?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: McCloskey on 13-04-2014, 02:04:11
He 111 - I bet it's just for map flyovers. Anyway, I noticed there's already a "jump" kitmesh for the Americans - helmet chin straps included.

(http://s16.postimg.org/l6iuosyd1/Untitled_1.jpg)

Mah boys gonna look sharp :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 13-04-2014, 07:04:23
FRENCH HOPE

* Stonne update (kev4000)

WESTERN FRONT

* Puffendorf equipment test (kev4000)
* Siegfried Line WIP map (natty)
* Return of stmere eglise to beta (kev4000)
* Puffendorf equipment test (kev4000)
* Pegasus bridge ready for beta testing (nissi)

FINLAND

* Kuuterselka 1024x1 map (kev4000)
* Add Ilomantsi to beta (schism)
* Ilomantsi update (schism)

RUSSIA

* Crimea - Fenring Version updated by Shism RVTL to SVN (stubbfan)
* Kharkov outskirts to beta (kev4000)
* Added Prokhorovka to beta (knoffhoff)
* Seelow heights alpha by schism (kev4000)
* Zielona Gora 1944 update.  Basic bf2 textures, roads etc.  (stubbfan)


Wow!!
 :o
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 13-04-2014, 08:04:48
What the hell can a "Dragon Fist" be?

Also I have a different kind of excitement for the French content, another front we never heard in official updates!

Also nice find McCloskey, its time we hunt for hidden content since the new version came!  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: titsmcgee852 on 13-04-2014, 12:04:01
* Siegfried Line WIP map (natty)
(stubbfan)
Is Natty back developing?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 13-04-2014, 13:04:58
The name between () means that it is that person who committed something, but it doesn't say when. This commit by Natty was made when he was still active. So in short: no.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 13-04-2014, 13:04:21
OK, gonna leak something right now: That map "Siegfried Line" is a remake of the BF2142 map "Verdun" that natty wanted to make, but I don't think anybody else is interested enough to finish it.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 13-04-2014, 13:04:13
And uploading it to the SVN was the last thing he did before he retired. I don't think this one will be ever finished, it didn't even manage to get into beta build.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 13-04-2014, 14:04:41
If nobody is interested, could you upload it? Maybe sb will be eager to finish it?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 13-04-2014, 14:04:37
Mah thoughts exactleh Mudzeen
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 13-04-2014, 14:04:12
If it was my project, I would do it no time, but since it's Natty's map I don't think he would be happy if we'll upload his map to public ???
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: titsmcgee852 on 13-04-2014, 14:04:01
Yeah exactly, fair enough too.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 13-04-2014, 16:04:14
Yeah, better throw this project away... Sure...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 13-04-2014, 17:04:26
IIRC there was another map that too was first disregarded as "pfft, nobody has the interest to finish this, don't expect to see it ever" until it was announced :P

(Was going to insert some horrible pun about "forgotten hope" here but feel free to make up your own.)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 13-04-2014, 17:04:29
Yeah but Omaha is fucking awesome. Siegfried line is just some BF2142 map without any historical merit or interest.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Godall on 13-04-2014, 20:04:54
I'm back with an update. :P

All weapons!!! Waiting more updates...  Faustpatrone  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fReIJzZt-w

(http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/1638/futureweaponsfh2.jpg)
(http://cs617830.vk.me/v617830292/75a1/qGNRIdwrtUo.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 13-04-2014, 21:04:13
So these come straight from the files? Oh...   :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 13-04-2014, 21:04:06
I'm not sure, but I think faustpatrone was already on one of the FHT maps before...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: ww2fighter20 on 14-04-2014, 20:04:18
 ;)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/735x454q90/163/av51.png)

nice skin by the way.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 14-04-2014, 21:04:31
I don't know how to respond to that beauty...  :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 14-04-2014, 21:04:25
;)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/735x454q90/163/av51.png)

nice skin by the way.

(http://heydontjudgeme.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/GOT-excitement.jpg)

I started thinking more seriously on the possiblity of 1940 France being integrated in the mod sometime ;D
And the 100th page of the conspiracy thread is coming up, we should have something special in it! Moderators?  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Steel_Lion_FIN on 14-04-2014, 21:04:02
Not sure if mentioned but..

Quote
Levels
 ------
  * Omaha beach ramp lighting fixed (ts4ever)
  * Omaha more lightmaps - road fixes (ts4ever)
  * Omaha beach - Next try to fix those beachramps (ts4ever)
  * Seelow update (ts4ever)
  * Omaha Beach - more detail fixes, undergrowth and horse wagons (ts4ever)
  * Omaha beach - fix too wide dirt road (ts4ever)

Seelow Heights confirmed?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 14-04-2014, 21:04:08
If you are all really nice I might make a devblog about it.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: radiosmersh on 14-04-2014, 21:04:53
(http://i.imgur.com/nWteQsy.png)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Seth_Soldier on 14-04-2014, 22:04:07
;)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/735x454q90/163/av51.png)

nice skin by the way.
;) thank you
it's french camo and cast armor that make that thing beautifull too !
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 14-04-2014, 23:04:29
I agree, great job on that model! Is is just me or the tracks look a bit low poly?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 14-04-2014, 23:04:54
And it's great to drive, little tin can full of suicide.  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: ww2fighter20 on 14-04-2014, 23:04:42
I agree, great job on that model! Is is just me or the tracks look a bit low poly?

Its a problem on my side, all tanks have tracks like that for me in the editor, not an large problem trough since I don't have it ingame.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 15-04-2014, 00:04:05
If you are all really nice I might make a devblog about it.
about what?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Nissi on 15-04-2014, 06:04:26
I agree, great job on that model! Is is just me or the tracks look a bit low poly?

The tracks you're looking at in the editor will not render alpha texture maps properly, ingame they look different. If you want to see it properly go to the modding section and find Remduls Meshviewer.

If you wonder now what an alpha texture or alpha mapping is:
it's a technique in 3D computer graphics where an image is mapped (assigned) to a 3D object, and designates certain areas of the object to be transparent or translucent.

Typical example are tank tracks.. they would end too high poli.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 15-04-2014, 08:04:27
 I would love to have seen a Devblog on Gold Beach...



I never realized how talented Ts4EVER was.......
 Why the hell are you guys so secretive?

 You should be proud when YOUR map gets the greenlight & let the community follow along while its being made. You might .....

...God For Bid......get the community interested & generate some enthusiasm.


I forgot but who made Omaha?

 They deserve allot of respect and a cold beer.


Also, can someone explain when a map is in Alpha & Beta? I have a general idea.



 8)

 8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Nissi on 15-04-2014, 20:04:44
Beregil and Schism made Gold Beach

Many Devs were involved in Omaha, Ts4ever completed it.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 15-04-2014, 20:04:38
The road to Omaha was a bumpy one... Lobo originally wanted to make it for 2.2 (I believe that is when the special bunker statics were made), but he had to leave for personal reasons. Then Mr Cheese (of Sfakia and Lebisey fame) wanted to finish the map, but it turns out there was something wrong with the heightmap, so he made a new heightmap. Then he also had to leave. This was shortly before 2.45 IIRC. After that, the torch was picked up by Remick04, who sat down and fleshed out the beach part so it could be tested. It worked quite well, although sadly he had included SPR style bunkers which stirred some controversy. Then real life struck again and he had to leave. Then in the autumn of last year I took over the map, deleted all unhistorical stuff and built the village and church area. In the final stretch before release, Stubbfan also added more details and he also coded the ship and made the tank turret. So it was finally finished  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Officer_Dufus on 15-04-2014, 22:04:41
I don't really notice the crawling animation issue.

I just notice that some weapons have a different sprinting animation, like comparing the Enfield to the Springfield.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 17-04-2014, 12:04:17
Just noticed the sabre in the weapon icons...sweet jesus christ
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 17-04-2014, 15:04:03

If you wonder now what an alpha texture or alpha mapping is:
it's a technique in 3D computer graphics where an image is mapped (assigned) to a 3D object, and designates certain areas of the object to be transparent or translucent.


Indeed that is correct, it is also a technique to blend the sides of the road to your terrain texture, at least in CE.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Chad1992 on 17-04-2014, 17:04:56


(http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/1638/futureweaponsfh2.jpg)
(http://cs617830.vk.me/v617830292/75a1/qGNRIdwrtUo.jpg)
Have to wonder what other weapons are hidden behind the white area.  :o
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Officer_Dufus on 17-04-2014, 19:04:16
M38 & M44 probably.  What about Nagant Revolver.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: titsmcgee852 on 18-04-2014, 08:04:59
God damn I can't wait to one day play with all these weapons :')
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: ksl94 on 22-04-2014, 20:04:03
I am amazed to see all the French weapons in there. I assume that this means that we get Bir Hakeim or the landings in Morocco? Well, the French Hope maps that are now included in the build even suggest that we might get France 1940. I love Forgotten Hope.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: elander on 22-04-2014, 22:04:24
I am amazed to see all the French weapons in there. I assume that this means that we get Bir Hakeim or the landings in Morocco? Well, the French Hope maps that are now included in the build even suggest that we might get France 1940. I love Forgotten Hope.

Coool! Very good!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 22-04-2014, 22:04:33
...or the landings in Morocco?...

That would be a very cool map imo, battles at Casablanca, Fedala or Lyautey.  :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 27-04-2014, 16:04:26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uga_sPZRF70
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Surfbird on 27-04-2014, 16:04:09
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uga_sPZRF70

Well, that would be cool. No doubt. Not sure if trolling or rather feeling like it's time to cause confusion though.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Godall on 27-04-2014, 17:04:49
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uga_sPZRF70

Red Army will be sturm Berlin in FH2?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 27-04-2014, 17:04:28
69th anniversary of Battle of Berlin?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 01-05-2014, 17:05:10
(http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/15917985.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 01-05-2014, 17:05:37
Indeed it was "forgotten" battle ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 01-05-2014, 17:05:27
Is that a photo we should start producing conspiracies on? Or just for the lulz?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 01-05-2014, 18:05:52
Is that a photo we should start producing conspiracies on? Or just for the lulz?

I think the first option is quite reasonable ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kalkalash on 01-05-2014, 18:05:54
Playable cows confirmed.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 01-05-2014, 18:05:51
Hmm okay. Other than the T34 in the photo, I can see a bunch of flowers on a stone surface on the lower left corner so I guess its a gravestone/memorial kind of thingy. And there seems to be a couple of flags in front of the houses at the background. Can someone figure out what they are?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 01-05-2014, 18:05:38
Well, I've already found that location on google maps! :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 01-05-2014, 18:05:12
So is it somewhere where a possible Fh2 map could be set?
:D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 01-05-2014, 18:05:11
Surely, why not... :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 01-05-2014, 19:05:20
Well, I've already found that location on google maps! :D
Didn't bother to mapsearch, because reverse image search finds the place much easier ;)

If you don't want to go the easy way, well, "Charge of the Light Brigade" might prove some hints to the location of the photo (and the battle that was fought there). ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 01-05-2014, 19:05:13
Bingo! Crimea.  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 01-05-2014, 19:05:54
Nowhere near Crimea, but there is something else in the poem that tells you where this would be ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 01-05-2014, 20:05:21
Dammit! Moar research...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 01-05-2014, 20:05:25
Playable cows confirmed.
Crap, so soon...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 01-05-2014, 20:05:18
Playable cows confirmed.
Crap, so soon...

So, if cows already are, next will be donkeys with double panzerfausts!  8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 01-05-2014, 23:05:06
Nah, that's way too unrealistic.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Godall on 02-05-2014, 18:05:30
(http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/15917985.jpg)

It is Slovakia Prešov Region, Kapišová.

The remains of Soviet combat techniques from the time of the Carpathian-Dukelská operations are remembering the events of 1944. The aim of this offensive was to combine the operations of Soviet and Czechoslovak troops with insurgents in the Slovak National Uprising.

Part of the battlefield was Dukelského and crew 3rd Czechoslovak brigade, whose reconstruction of the original form is now freely available at the village Vyšný Komárnik.

Film "TANK BRIGADE" by Czechoslovak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOwxUZwUz7Y
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst on 02-05-2014, 19:05:34
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/15917985.jpg

I see, where this is going  ;D

(http://cdn3.whatculture.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Diablo-2-Secret-Cow-Level.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: CHRISTIEFRONTDRIVE on 03-05-2014, 06:05:14
Nearly came in my pants when I saw glorious faustpatrone.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 03-05-2014, 13:05:04
Nearly came in my pants when I saw glorious faustpatrone.

That one is already in the file, but we didn't include it yet. IMO it oculd be used on Normandy maps, but if you replace the Panzerfaust 30 with an inferior model you will have riots on your hand...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 03-05-2014, 17:05:15
For those wondering the clue I gave, the Battle of Dukla Pass (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Dukla_Pass) wiki mentions: "one of the valleys in the pass near villages of Kapišová, Chyrowa, Iwla and Głojsce would become known as the Valley of Death". (Half a league, half a league, all in the Valley of Death...)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 03-05-2014, 17:05:01
Could it be that I just posted that picture because it was funny? Bad mistake, now I basically have to make a Dukla Pass map...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 03-05-2014, 22:05:19
"Once is a coincidence, twice is a pattern, thrice is a conspiracy!"
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: DaWorg! on 04-05-2014, 02:05:14
Nearly came in my pants when I saw glorious faustpatrone.

That one is already in the file, but we didn't include it yet. IMO it oculd be used on Normandy maps, but if you replace the Panzerfaust 30 with an inferior model you will have riots on your hand...

It's smaller. It could be 2-3 Faustpatrone instead of one Panzerfaust 30
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Godall on 06-05-2014, 11:05:46
Soon I will show first weapon to the Eastern Front ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 08-05-2014, 21:05:25
Eastern Front you say?

(http://i.imgur.com/NoKhJkv.jpg)

Added Russian kit names today.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Zoktor Doidberg on 08-05-2014, 22:05:51
O.o

Dat kit selections is beautiful... Unlimited PPsh :P

btw, what does faustnik stand for in russian? I thought it was the russian´s nickname for german AT-soldier with panzerfausts?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Surfbird on 08-05-2014, 22:05:36
Sweet :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Musti on 08-05-2014, 23:05:41
This is beautiful....
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 08-05-2014, 23:05:42
Oh God the amount of sex in that picture :o

I spy:
Russian smoke grenade we haven't seen?
And gun that I can't figure out in the engineer and NCO kits.

Also the Russians in close quarters are going to be unstoppable 8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 08-05-2014, 23:05:34

Russian smoke grenade we haven't seen?

That's an AP mine you blundering idiot

And gun that I can't figure out in the engineer and NCO kits.

That would be the PPS43, the successor of the PPSh41


(Sorry for the "blundering idiot" part, I just had to. No offence meant)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Godall on 08-05-2014, 23:05:59
Eastern Front you say?

(http://i.imgur.com/NoKhJkv.jpg)

Added Russian kit names today.
Nice! But I, too, something that will show)))
If you need help in translation. According to Russian not FAUSTNIK need say GRANATOMETCHIK. But I still like it!!!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 09-05-2014, 00:05:09
Hm, but what Faustnik will have as his secondary weapon?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Musti on 09-05-2014, 00:05:21

Russian smoke grenade we haven't seen?

That's an AP mine you blundering idiot

And gun that I can't figure out in the engineer and NCO kits.

That would be the PPS43, the successor of the PPSh41


(Sorry for the "blundering idiot" part, I just had to. No offence meant)
He meant the rifle, not the SMG, that's a Mosin Nagant carbine.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Godall on 09-05-2014, 00:05:51
Hm, but what Faustnik will have as his secondary weapon?

Faustpatrone))) https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=54qsiabQUQU#t=124
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 09-05-2014, 00:05:01
It's a 1945 type kit layout. The at kit has PPS43 + Panzerfaust 30, but the icon isn't done yet. The engineer and NCO weapons is a Mosin Nagant M44 carbine, which was used at the end of the war.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 09-05-2014, 01:05:08
That's an AP mine you blundering idiot
(Sorry for the "blundering idiot" part, I just had to. No offence meant)

None taken ;) but what AP Mine is that? I've never seen a Russian one.

It's a 1945 type kit layout. The at kit has PPS43 + Panzerfaust 30, but the icon isn't done yet. The engineer and NCO weapons is a Mosin Nagant M44 carbine, which was used at the end of the war.

I also have no idea what AT weapons the Russians fielded in WW2. There were the AT grenades and mines and of course the AT rifles. But other than a Lend Lease Bazooka or a captured faust, did the Russians have anything handheld and propelled? ???
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 09-05-2014, 01:05:39
Russians had no launchers themselves and only received very few bazookas. They captured lots of fausts though and even printed a manual for them, so that is what they get in 1945.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 09-05-2014, 01:05:29
That's an AP mine you blundering idiot
(Sorry for the "blundering idiot" part, I just had to. No offence meant)

None taken ;) but what AP Mine is that? I've never seen a Russian one.


No idea, but you can see the pointy end of the stick made to stick it in the ground, the shrapnel sleeve and the detonator above which is supposedly able to be connected to a wire or an electrical detonator. Anyhow, not a smoke nade. Right devs? Where did you dig up this mine, I searched and found nothing.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 09-05-2014, 01:05:15
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/16/POMZ1.JPEG)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 09-05-2014, 01:05:47
The crap you guys find I swear to God ;) is Taranov still doing research for the team?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 09-05-2014, 06:05:08
Sweeeeeeeeet mama!  :D dem kits!

Ooooh, Mosin carbine, we havent seen it yet!  :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Godall on 09-05-2014, 15:05:03
(https://pp.vk.me/c620825/v620825292/502e/MZM2Q2A_y-4.jpg)

As promised!
The NR-40 (from Russian: нож разведчика, nozh razvedchika, meaning 'scout's knife') was a Soviet combat knife introduced in 1940 and used throughout World War II. The NR-40 has a 152 mm blade with a clip point, a large choil, a black wooden handle, and an S-shaped guard. The guard is "inverted" (unlike most S-shaped guards, it curves towards the edge) because standard Soviet Army grips called for holding the knife with the edge towards yourself (most useful if you are, for example, trying to sneak up on a sentry from behind).

VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfUXd3j5vI4&feature=youtu.be

Congratulations to all on Victory Day!!!  Ура Ура Урааа!!! :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 09-05-2014, 16:05:04
Oh very nice! :D nice normal map on that knife too.

The Russians are starting to shape up 8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 09-05-2014, 17:05:36
Where did you find that? I can't see it in the 2.46 files.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 09-05-2014, 18:05:28
Made it?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 09-05-2014, 18:05:52
No, we looked into it, it is the FH2 russian knife. Apparently it was included into the build by mistake back in 2.3. So congrats for digging that up.  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 09-05-2014, 18:05:25
looks so nice! By the way, since when are Russian content being made? Except what the Finnish mod donated.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 09-05-2014, 18:05:55
Dont think any of the content beside the Boys rifle is used from the ones that were donated. For example the Suomi is whole new made by Seth.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 09-05-2014, 18:05:03
looks so nice! By the way, since when are Russian content being made? Except what the Finnish mod donated.

We tested the first Russian stuff ingame after 2.4 was released (shot each other with PPshs on PdH). But most of it was made around 2.3.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 09-05-2014, 18:05:36
I love it when the Conspiracies Thread heats up 8) lets keep stoking the fire!
and have the devs crush our dreams

We all remember this little beauty from page 99:
(http://i.imgur.com/fYPOYT4.jpg)
Hinting at signs of early war France
(Seth?) apparently made some other skins for it as well.
Balkans
(http://i.imgur.com/PcwEesj.jpg)
Polizei
(http://i.imgur.com/2ddhJXW.jpg)
PzAbt100
(http://i.imgur.com/SJZ4iyC.jpg)
Wurfrahmen
(http://i.imgur.com/eUEk0o0.jpg)
(some assembly required :P)

What maps could these all be used on?.... conspire 8)

P.S. REALLY sexy skins Seth
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: RAnDOOm on 09-05-2014, 18:05:44
(http://blog.7geese.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/bringing-sexy-back.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 09-05-2014, 19:05:31
I came.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Godall on 10-05-2014, 00:05:40
No, we looked into it, it is the FH2 russian knife. Apparently it was included into the build by mistake back in 2.3. So congrats for digging that up.  ;D
ahahah )))))) We have much to find. Yes we have found when I do not want to show it. ;D

Then...))))
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 10-05-2014, 04:05:50
 Battle For Stonne would be nice & another Western Front Map in 2.47



........ before the BIG KAHUNA Eastern Front!

 8)

Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Godall on 10-05-2014, 13:05:43
Battle For Stonne would be nice & another Western Front Map in 2.47



........ before the BIG KAHUNA Eastern Front!

 8)

NO NOnononono I'm tired of waiting for 7 years. I need the Eastern Front! Already bf4 released soon bf5 and will not have all of the Eastern Front

I demand the Eastern Front! >:(
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 10-05-2014, 13:05:31
Oh boy, since Godall needs EF, we gotta release our shit now, unfinished.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Godall on 10-05-2014, 15:05:03
Oh boy, since Godall needs EF, we gotta release our shit now, unfinished.
You should already understand that even fewer users FH. Fewer servers.
FH game 10 years from 2004 and all this time I'm a fan of FH. 

10 years Forgotten hope.

Endlessly we can not wait.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: ksl94 on 10-05-2014, 17:05:50
Do we have any Italian statics like houses?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 10-05-2014, 17:05:28
You should already understand that even fewer users FH. Fewer servers.
FH game 10 years from 2004 and all this time I'm a fan of FH. 

10 years Forgotten hope.

Endlessly we can not wait.

“When nine hundred years old you reach, look as good you will not.”
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 11-05-2014, 16:05:00
Want more spawn menues? This is from a 1944 map:

(http://i.imgur.com/YKqhBKW.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 11-05-2014, 16:05:07
Ooh, new AT grenade! And that looks like a different Mosin carbine. What is it? Also are there any menu-selectable kits which have the petrol bomb?

Could you please keep'em coming :3
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 11-05-2014, 16:05:12
There's the RPG-43 I was waiting for :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 11-05-2014, 16:05:08
M38 Carbine
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: titsmcgee852 on 11-05-2014, 17:05:20
Haha I just came
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: radiosmersh on 11-05-2014, 21:05:05
Nice, but I think "Granatometchik" (Гранатометчик, verbatim "grenade thrower") would be more appropriate designation for RPG-43 kit, since "Istrebitel' tankov" primarily means tank destroyer in Russian.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Godall on 11-05-2014, 22:05:29
Nice, but I think "Granatometchik" (Гранатометчик, verbatim "grenade thrower") would be more appropriate designation for RPG-43 kit, since "Istrebitel' tankov" primarily means tank destroyer in Russian.
I agree completely.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 11-05-2014, 23:05:21
What would you call somebody with an AT-Rifle?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: radiosmersh on 12-05-2014, 00:05:56
What would you call somebody with an AT-Rifle?
Broneboishchik (бронебойщик, verbatim "one who beats the armour") - that's how they were called in Red Army. Proof from Russian wiki (http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B5_%D1%80%D1%83%D0%B6%D1%8C%D1%91) for example:
В боях на Курской Дуге бронебойщик Денисов сбил из ПТР два вражеских бомбардировщика.
In the Battle of Kursk anti-tank riflemen Denisov knocked out two enemy bombers with his AT-rifle.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mayhemic.MAD on 12-05-2014, 22:05:11
some testing madness  :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 13-05-2014, 00:05:47
Fire targets for the ship artillery?  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Eat Uranium on 13-05-2014, 00:05:26
Ah, if only the testing commands worked in public...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 13-05-2014, 01:05:58
The real question is: who's comp crapped out first after that?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst Topgun on 13-05-2014, 12:05:42
server died shortly after this madness ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: gavrant on 13-05-2014, 18:05:15
The server died only because of the destroyer finally got spawned in the trenches. It could handle more of that boats frenzy otherwise...

Nice, but I think "Granatometchik" (Гранатометчик, verbatim "grenade thrower") would be more appropriate designation for RPG-43 kit, since "Istrebitel' tankov" primarily means tank destroyer in Russian.
I agree completely.
What would you call somebody with an AT-Rifle?
Broneboishchik (бронебойщик, verbatim "one who beats the armour") - that's how they were called in Red Army. Proof from Russian wiki (http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B5_%D1%80%D1%83%D0%B6%D1%8C%D1%91) for example:
В боях на Курской Дуге бронебойщик Денисов сбил из ПТР два вражеских бомбардировщика.
In the Battle of Kursk anti-tank riflemen Denisov knocked out two enemy bombers with his AT-rifle.
OK, I feel obliged to defend my translation. IMHO, "Istrebitel' tankov" (tank destroyer/hunter) still sounds better and more official (even cooler, if I may say so) than "Granatomyotchik" or "Broneboishchik". Besides, we already have too many "-chiks" in the kit list :)
And yes, the term was used for AT infantry (all sources are in Russian):
Radiosmersh, even the Wiki article you quoted has a picture of "soldiers of a tank destroyer battalion" (the second one from the top).
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 13-05-2014, 18:05:59
Boychiks
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 13-05-2014, 23:05:54
The real question is: who's comp crapped out first after that?
Ts4EVER's ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 13-05-2014, 23:05:17
?

I don't remember crashing... at some point I just got bored or tired and left.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mayhemic.MAD on 14-05-2014, 01:05:34
Actually the server was still fine with all those vehicles, but a bit laggy of course. Even spawning the fw190 flybys worked fine, but it crashed when we tried to spawn another destroyer.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Godall on 14-05-2014, 11:05:36

OK, I feel obliged to defend my translation. IMHO, "Istrebitel' tankov" (tank destroyer/hunter) still sounds better and more official (even cooler, if I may say so) than "Granatomyotchik" or "Broneboishchik". Besides, we already have too many "-chiks" in the kit list :)
And yes, the term was used for AT infantry (all sources are in Russian):
  • Source #1 (http://militera.lib.ru/h/zyuskin_vk/index.html) - a book about the 8th Detached Tank Destroyer (infantry) brigade.
  • Source #2 (http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%98%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB%D1%8C_%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B2_(%D0%B7%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%87%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F)) - the disambiguation page for "tank destroyer" on Russian Wiki.
  • Source #3 (http://militera.lib.ru/prose/russian/bek/index.html) - the book mentions an infantry platoon of "tank destroyers" in few places. For example, here: http://militera.lib.ru/prose/russian/bek/52.html .
Radiosmersh, even the Wiki article you quoted has a picture of "soldiers of a tank destroyer battalion" (the second one from the top).
Firstly it is art literature - prose. "Istrebitel' tankov" it is not official. 
ГРАНАТОМЁТЧИК - Soldier armed with hand grenades or grenade launcher.   
http://dic.academic.ru/dic.nsf/ogegova/42114
Бронебойщик - antitank rifle shooter
http://dic.academic.ru/dic.nsf/rus_orthography/7854/%D0%B1%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B5%D0%B1%D0%BE%D0%B9%D1%89%D0%B8%D0%BA

We just say how to properly!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: gavrant on 14-05-2014, 13:05:35
Firstly it is art literature - prose. "Istrebitel' tankov" it is not official. 
Well, source #1 used the archives of the "8-й ОИПТ (Отдельной Истребительной ПротивоТанковой)— 30-й ОИПТА бригады из архива Министерства обороны СССР".
And source #3 was written by a reporter and participant of the war, so I expect some basic knowledge of terminology from him.
Sorry, but a collection of general dictionaries (academic.ru) or unsourced quotes from Wikipedia don't make the "ГРАНАТОМЁТЧИК" and "Бронебойщик" official.
One more thing about the "Гранотомётчик" - it is too vague and describes any soldier with hand grenades or a grenade launcher, while the kit is specifically AT.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Godall on 14-05-2014, 14:05:43
 
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One more thing about the "Гранотомётчик" - it is too vague and describes any soldier with hand grenades or a grenade launcher, while the kit is specifically AT.

According to these words set with SVT-40 will be called "Istrebitel' pehots."  ;D

"Faustnik" so it's nonsense. So in Soviet army called German grenaders, but not Russian troopers . Noo no no.
 This is not a true!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: radiosmersh on 14-05-2014, 15:05:15
https://www.google.ru/search?q=site%3Aru.wikipedia.org+бронебойщик (https://www.google.ru/search?q=site%3Aru.wikipedia.org+бронебойщик)
First two and half pages are entirely about Heroes of the Soviet Union, which were AT rifle gunners.
https://www.google.ru/search?q=site%3Aru.wikipedia.org+истребитель танков (https://www.google.ru/search?q=site%3Aru.wikipedia.org+истребитель танков)
And only a couple of mention on 12th and 14th page.

And to be quite official, this profession was designated as "Стрелок ПТР" (AT rifle gunner).
Source (http://rkka.ru/docs/real/ptr-fire/index.htm) (this is a war period leaflet for AT gunners) or Source №2 (http://www.skbs.ru/museum/index.files/arhivs/tuz/Docs/docs.html) (Identity Card of the Red Army).
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: gavrant on 14-05-2014, 15:05:30
https://www.google.ru/search?q=site%3Aru.wikipedia.org+бронебойщик (https://www.google.ru/search?q=site%3Aru.wikipedia.org+бронебойщик)
First two and half pages are entirely about Heroes of the Soviet Union, which were AT rifle gunners.
https://www.google.ru/search?q=site%3Aru.wikipedia.org+истребитель танков (https://www.google.ru/search?q=site%3Aru.wikipedia.org+истребитель танков)
Radiosmersh, with all due respect, Wikipedia is a good starting point for a research, but not an authoritative source.
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And only a couple of mention on 12th and 14th page.
How about the seventh item on the first page - "Antitank dog"?  "Собаки-истребители танков (официальное советское название)..." and all that stuff :P


Godall, Radiosmersh, also think about one thing for a moment - how a player who doesn't speak Russian is supposed to understand that it's an AT kit? I remember seeing the French kit roster at the first time. "Where's the AT kit?" was my thought, since I didn't know what "Antichar" means in French. At least, "Istrebitel' tankov" has the "tank" in its name.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 14-05-2014, 17:05:26
?

I don't remember crashing... at some point I just got bored or tired and left.
Well, I remember seeing you disconnect as the first guy, so you crapped out. Maybe not the PC, but hey, what's the difference really? ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: radiosmersh on 14-05-2014, 17:05:55
Radiosmersh, with all due respect, Wikipedia is a good starting point for a research, but not an authoritative source.
Ok, then here are authoritative sources:
http://sd250.narod.ru/text/pr_43_06_21.html
"В боях под Старой Руссой показал себя мужественным бронебойщиком."
http://bdsa.ru/documents/html/donesaugust41/410828.html (
"...в районе Воронино были встречены огнем бронебойщиков 1-й гвардейской стрелковой дивизии..."



I don't see any reason to pursue this dispute further. Let each one remain with his point of view. Anyway, awesomeness of thing doesn't depend on how it is called. So, thank you devs for your good work.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: hitm4k3r on 14-05-2014, 17:05:17
https://www.google.ru/search?q=site%3Aru.wikipedia.org+бронебойщик (https://www.google.ru/search?q=site%3Aru.wikipedia.org+бронебойщик)
First two and half pages are entirely about Heroes of the Soviet Union, which were AT rifle gunners.
https://www.google.ru/search?q=site%3Aru.wikipedia.org+истребитель танков (https://www.google.ru/search?q=site%3Aru.wikipedia.org+истребитель танков)
Radiosmersh, with all due respect, Wikipedia is a good starting point for a research, but not an authoritative source.
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And only a couple of mention on 12th and 14th page.
How about the seventh item on the first page - "Antitank dog"?  "Собаки-истребители танков (официальное советское название)..." and all that stuff :P


Godall, Radiosmersh, also think about one thing for a moment - how a player who doesn't speak Russian is supposed to understand that it's an AT kit? I remember seeing the French kit roster at the first time. "Where's the AT kit?" was my thought, since I didn't know what "Antichar" means in French. At least, "Istrebitel' tankov" has the "tank" in its name.

AT stands for anti tank so anti char is not quite far of especialy when you consider that there are french tanks called "Char B1 Bis". Good point about Wikipedia though. It is not the good to rely on it only but to check different sources.

At the end it should be the most historical accurate term.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: gavrant on 14-05-2014, 18:05:16
Ok, then here are authoritative sources:
...
http://bdsa.ru/documents/html/donesaugust41/410828.html (
"...в районе Воронино были встречены огнем бронебойщиков 1-й гвардейской стрелковой дивизии..."
Hehe, my turn with the same source:
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3391&Itemid=67
"ПРИКАЗЫВАЮ: С получением сего в 24 часа создать в каждой роте группу истребителей танков в составе 10-12 человек..."
http://bdsa.ru/documents/html/donesnovember41/411105.html
"5. Окопы усовершенствовать до полного профиля, подготовить батальонные и ротные группы истребителей танков и собак – истребителей танков..."
http://bdsa.ru/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=578&Itemid=30
"... Если в уничтожении вражеского танка участвовала группа бойцов-истребителей танков, то сумму премии поднять до 1500 руб.* и выплачивать всем участникам группы равными долями..."

To be fair, as I understand, the quotes above are mostly about soldiers armed with AT grenades and Molotov cocktails, not with AT rifles.

EDIT: Sorry, I just can't resist...
On bdsa.ru, a rather large collection of archive documents, Yandex (a search engine, it's better than Google in dealing with Russian sites) could find:
"Granatomyotchik" - 16 pages
"Broneboischik" - 11 pages
"Istrebitel' tankov" - 248 pages, about 1/3 of them are related to the "tank destroyer on foot".

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I don't see any reason to pursue this dispute further. Let each one remain with his point of view. Anyway, awesomeness of thing doesn't depend on how it is called. So, thank you devs for your good work.
Oh come on! After we finally got to the sources more serious than Wikipedia, you're withdrawing from the argument?


AT stands for anti tank so anti char is not quite far of especialy when you consider that there are french tanks called "Char B1 Bis".
For that, you have to be aware of the existence of Char B1 Bis in the first place :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 14-05-2014, 19:05:39
Meh, you have to leanr so much when you start playing FH2, that a few words in an unknown language are easy to add.

So if a certain word is the most accurate, but it doesn't "look like" anti-tank kit, I still think we should go for it. It's not like I know Italian that well, but when a player uses the voice commands, I know what to do without looking.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Musti on 14-05-2014, 20:05:46
I mean it's not like Italian AT kit is called controcarro or anything...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: NTH on 14-05-2014, 20:05:29
Taranov bat signal.

Is he still around?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Godall on 14-05-2014, 20:05:48
"Istrebitel' tankov" - can be called gunners, tankmen, airmen and soldiers.
Our offer more accurate, correct.

I hope that in game will not Soviet soldier with a beard, which is dancing the balalaika with a bear. :(
Do not make Russian clowns behind which will be ashamed to play.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Steel_Lion_FIN on 14-05-2014, 20:05:35
"Istrebitel' tankov" - can be called gunners, tankmen, airmen and soldiers.
Our offer more accurate, correct.

I hope that in game will not Soviet soldier with a beard, which is dancing the balalaika with a bear. :(
Do not make Russian clowns behind which will be ashamed to play.

Yak-9IT is the Istrebitel tankov model, so it applies to planes as well.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 14-05-2014, 23:05:46
Eagerly awaiting The Names of the Finnish Kits: Electric Boogaloo. ;D

Though, are all the names of kits even now the "official" terms of the time? "Tank Hunter" or very prosaic-sounding "Assault" come to mind first.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 14-05-2014, 23:05:54
I don't want to publish the Finnish spawn screen yet, as the NCO kit is not done.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Godall on 15-05-2014, 01:05:17
I don't want to publish the Finnish spawn screen yet, as the NCO kit is not done.

And can show. To release all can Edit.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 15-05-2014, 01:05:27
So I was playing around with the 3ds Max 9 with POE importer tools of course, and I came across some cools things!

Some FH2 Juno Beach statics:

(http://s28.postimg.org/am9jzv3ct/prev1.jpg)

(http://s28.postimg.org/fmblljyd9/prev2.jpg)

(http://s28.postimg.org/a88809j99/juno6.jpg)


Very awesome stuff. May we get a honest answer, how far is the map from being done?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 15-05-2014, 01:05:32
It was Natty's map, so it probably won't be finished. I certainly won't finish it, we had enough beaches lately...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 15-05-2014, 01:05:44
Darn shame too. Tbh I'd rather have Juno than Gold just because of lumberjack commandos.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 15-05-2014, 01:05:56
It was Natty's map, so it probably won't be finished. I certainly won't finish it, we had enough beaches lately...

On a scale of historically accurate. 1 being Operation Totalize, and 10 being Omaha Beach. How accurate was it? :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 15-05-2014, 02:05:47
I think it was a 1:1 copy, although I am not sure.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: sheikyerbouti on 15-05-2014, 10:05:38
Darn shame too. Tbh I'd rather have Juno than Gold just because of lumberjack commandos.

You can get lumberjack commando's just as soon as we get the gaylord sauna kit for the Finns that is represented by a naked dude who swats his opponents with a birch branch.


 Juno would be interesting to have but the Canadians landed on that beach virtually unopposed.

P.S. There were no Canadian commandos and almost every single Canuck who served in the Second World War came from urban areas that are very much removed from your bullshit lumberjack meme.

Go smoke some fish Flippy,
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 15-05-2014, 11:05:00
You can get lumberjack commando's just as soon as we get the gaylord sauna kit for the Finns that is represented by a naked dude who swats his opponents with a birch branch.

So lumberjack commandos confirmed in future updates? Awesome!  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 15-05-2014, 15:05:49
It is a shame not seeing Juno appear. Just viewing those awesome models and seeing them go to waist is a disappointment.

However there will probably better maps coming up. ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: gavrant on 15-05-2014, 16:05:24
Taranov bat signal.

Is he still around?

I caught Taranov on Skype today (the quote below is more or less accurate translation from Russian):
Quote
...
Garvant: For AT infantry kits I came with a head-on translation - "Istrebitel' tankov"
Now on the forum we have the argument if "Istrebitel' tankov" is historically accurate or it's more correct to name the kits as "Granatomyotchik", "Broneboischik" or "Strelok PTR"
My opponents are saying that "Istrebitel' tankov" was used only for antitank self-propellled guns
I'm throwing "otdelnye istrebitelnye protivotankovye" battalions and brigades in reply
Taranov: Танкоистребитель (tankoistrebitel') or противотанкист (protivotankist)
Garvant: As I understand, "Granatomyotchik" and "Broneboischik" are informal terms despite their usage in some documents?
Taranov: Informal
...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 15-05-2014, 19:05:09
He's not the hero we deserve, but the hero we need. ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 16-05-2014, 02:05:31
 So the hold up on the EF this whole time comes down to translation & Interpretation ..





 somewhere lightning is


(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/032/3/5/star_trek_facepalm_fail_by_kutpuppy27-d4odfxz.png)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Officer_Dufus on 16-05-2014, 18:05:14
Oh boy, that Russian spawn menu makes me excited.

Are any of the carbines M44s vs M38s?

Also I think the wood on the full size 91/30s is too red.  That dark red color really only came when they applied the shellac finish at post-war re-arsenal prior to their storage in cosmoline.  During the war they were more of a natural wood color.

The barrel on the carbine M38/M44 is too long.  I am not sure if this is supposed to be a bayonet, though, as if they are M44s?  Either way, if it is a bayonet, it is too short.

If you need any photos of Mosin Nagants,  I have plenty.  I have 6 91/30s, 3 M44s, and 3 Chinese Type 53s (same as M44.)

I also have a Yugoslavian M57 and a Romanian Cugir TTC which are the same as the Russian TT33, if you need some photos of that as well.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: DaWorg! on 17-05-2014, 04:05:23
This is a game, and should be kept like that.
If it's even possible, it would feel incredible sluggish and generally awful. It would also encourage camping even more. And that's not good in a 1S1K game.

Not to say that people would flee from the mod faster than you can say "Eastern Front coming 21. June 2015"
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 17-05-2014, 08:05:58
This is a game, and should be kept like that.
If it's even possible, it would feel incredible sluggish and generally awful. It would also encourage camping even more. And that's not good in a 1S1K game.

Not to say that people would flee from the mod faster than you can say "Eastern Front coming 21. June 2015"

 That would be very cool, unfortunately FH2 has not released ANY patches that i am aware of that actually coincided with a historically accurate date.

 ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 17-05-2014, 10:05:46
Therefore 21st of June would fit perfectly ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 22-05-2014, 23:05:05
I don't think anyone else has posted this before, BEHOLD THE H39!: ;)

(http://i.imgur.com/LfMbE3m.jpg?2)

(http://i.imgur.com/ONP61V1.jpg?2)

(http://i.imgur.com/iHyg9BW.jpg?1)

(http://i.imgur.com/Ff7Nqo0.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Seth_Soldier on 26-05-2014, 18:05:35
 ;) CharB1Bis and SomuaS35 are more beautifull
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 26-05-2014, 19:05:21
Wtf rotating minimap
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 26-05-2014, 19:05:45
Lol that is a normal setting for bf2...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 26-05-2014, 21:05:36
;) CharB1Bis and SomuaS35 are more beautifull

I'm sure they are!  8)

I have a question for the Char B1 skin(s), Are there multiple skins made for the tank featuring different names (ex: Eure, Gaillac, Ricquewihr, etc.) or is there only 1 standard default skin?



http://www.chars-francais.net/new/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=524&Itemid=66
(Good website showing each Char B1 used in 1940)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 26-05-2014, 21:05:27
Lol that is a normal setting for bf2...

mine never rotates. I will investigate immediately
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Wulfburk on 26-05-2014, 23:05:18
^ Check the option settings? You can choose between rotating or not...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 27-05-2014, 00:05:33
I have a question for the Char B1 skin(s), Are there multiple skins made for the tank featuring different names (ex: Eure, Gaillac, Ricquewihr, etc.) or is there only 1 standard default skin?
and do you think that all M4A1 Shermans during WWII were called Lucky Tiger?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Seth_Soldier on 27-05-2014, 18:05:47
;) CharB1Bis and SomuaS35 are more beautifull

I'm sure they are!  8)

I have a question for the Char B1 skin(s), Are there multiple skins made for the tank featuring different names (ex: Eure, Gaillac, Ricquewihr, etc.) or is there only 1 standard default skin?



http://www.chars-francais.net/new/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=524&Itemid=66
(Good website showing each Char B1 used in 1940)

there is only one skin per "use"(per faction, per equipment).
Camo pattern/skin is from an real life model.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 27-05-2014, 20:05:41
So, since PR has already released the gamespy workaround that they've been working on in collaboration with the FH2 devs
http://www.realitymod.com/forum/f380-project-reality-news/129284-project-reality-bf2-v1-2-released.html (http://www.realitymod.com/forum/f380-project-reality-news/129284-project-reality-bf2-v1-2-released.html)
I'm guessing the next FH2 patch will be sometime within the next 4 days :P
Any conspiracies as to what else it will contain? (Omaha ticket increase?)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 27-05-2014, 20:05:53
They will bring Omaha's SP, as Gavrant showed us :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: RAnDOOm on 27-05-2014, 20:05:07
New global ranking system ?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 27-05-2014, 21:05:53
New global ranking system ?

For what?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: RAnDOOm on 27-05-2014, 21:05:47
New global ranking system ?

For what?

For ranking.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 27-05-2014, 21:05:06
Expect a patch next weekend. If not, something went horribly wrong and it wasn't my fault.  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 27-05-2014, 23:05:31
New global ranking system ?

For what?

For ranking.

Well 762 already uses their ranking system, and basing on the fact it's sadly the only FH2 active server, making new ranking system is completely pointless...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: RAnDOOm on 27-05-2014, 23:05:18
Maybe im wrong, but i believe all remaining ranking systems will have to start from zero after 30 of May.

Thats why im saying that having only one ranking system running on every server will be positive.

Correct me if i am wrong please.

PS: Im dont care about ranks, but most of the public players do. And FH2 needs them.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 28-05-2014, 00:05:51
Maybe im wrong, but i believe all remaining ranking systems will have to start from zero after 30 of May.

Thats why im saying that having only one ranking system running on every server will be positive.

Correct me if i am wrong please.

PS: Im dont care about ranks, but most of the public players do. And FH2 needs them.

Well, I'm also curious if these ranks stay on 762 after gamespy shutdown... I don't know if they're related to nicks, EA account or game guid....
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 29-05-2014, 14:05:04
It's great to see all the new Soviet and French armor, but where's the Ferdinand?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Seth_Soldier on 29-05-2014, 16:05:52
It's great to see all the new Soviet and French armor, but where's the Ferdinand?

do you mean ingame ?

http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/news.php?start=2013-01-04+20%3A00%3A00
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 29-05-2014, 17:05:11
The tanks posted in this thread are only ingame because we forgot to remove them from the beta before packing the public version. It also happened to the M36 Jackson and the M26 Pershing before.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 29-05-2014, 22:05:25
Aaah, thanks for the clear-up. It's a bit early for this... but I am curious how the Ferdinand will hold up against the heavy Soviet armor, like the IS-2?

According to some accounts, the Ferdie's frontal armor was "invulnerable in the front" and could take several hits from the IS-2 "without any effect". Being rather slow and without secondary armament, maybe this could be the balancing factor?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 29-05-2014, 23:05:41
The Ferdinand and the IS2 probably very rarely met each other, since the Ferdinand was used on the Eastern front in significant nmbers only during 1943, before the IS2 was introduced.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 30-05-2014, 00:05:06
That's true.

The example was from "Combat History of Schwere Panzerjäger Abteilung 653", describing a battle between the Elefant and IS-2s, dated 12 Jan/1945. But if I have understood correctly, the frontal armor was still the same (200 mm) and they only increased the armor on the hull bottom.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 02-06-2014, 23:06:58
(http://photos.wikimapia.org/p/00/00/74/29/34_big.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/91L3k2tl.jpg)

Everybody thank Nissi for making these nice tank wrecks.  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 02-06-2014, 23:06:02
Bastard. I need those wrecks.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 03-06-2014, 05:06:47
That looks like a huge tank battle map!  :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: radiosmersh on 03-06-2014, 09:06:18
Is this the Dukla Pass map?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 03-06-2014, 13:06:11
That looks like a huge tank battle map!  :D

It is not big, maybe Eppeldorf size.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: radiosmersh on 04-06-2014, 07:06:56
tank_superheavy.dds and goliath.dds:
(http://i.imgur.com/Af5r4uCs.png) (http://imgur.com/Af5r4uC.png)(http://i.imgur.com/RJbkITTs.png) (http://imgur.com/RJbkITT.png)
So, does this mean there's a possiblity that we may have Maus(?) (or this is Ferdinand?) and Goliath in the future?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 04-06-2014, 16:06:10
That's very interesting. Technically, the Ferdinand does not qualify as a super-heavy tank though. Unless, it will be... EPIC.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 04-06-2014, 16:06:45
I made the super heavy tank thing as a joke back when I made all the new icons for 2.46. I don't remember making the Goliath, maybe that was Eat Uranium? The Ferdinand uses the heavy tank hunter symbol.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Eat Uranium on 04-06-2014, 17:06:52
Nope, you also made the Goliath as a joke too.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 04-06-2014, 18:06:08
How is the Goliath supposed to work anyways? Not possible in BF2 AFAIK...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 04-06-2014, 19:06:48
Why not? You just enter it as normal vehicle and make kamikaze drive!  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 04-06-2014, 20:06:26
That sounds kinda bad... I mean 1 death for 1 kill? Meh... I would understand if it was a real Jap kamikaze aircraft, but when using the Goliath you are meant to be safe while the "primitive UAV" does the job, not die with it... Otherwise people will just use it for quick transport.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MaJ.P.Bouras on 04-06-2014, 20:06:18
It should be like PRs "Garry" truck. Kills with it should award extra teamwork points.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LuckyOne on 04-06-2014, 21:06:24
^ Can it somehow be made to use the vBF2 TOW code? Make it a "projectile" and control it via radio...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 05-06-2014, 00:06:41
but it will blow up on the impact with ground?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Musti on 05-06-2014, 00:06:57
I don't know 'bout you but i just imagined a goliath flying through the air on FH2 maps, destroying allied tanks.
I'm happy with that vision, we need this in FH2.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 05-06-2014, 00:06:47
actually, that would be the only posible way to implement it if it was coded in that way...

LET'S GIVE IT A TRY! :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Chad1992 on 08-06-2014, 02:06:32
Ok I'm kind of going out on a limb but can't missiles be homed in a target in BF2?  My thinking is that the goliath kit comes with a pair of binoculars and you simply point at a target and click the goliath spawns next to you and makes its way towards the tank/vehicle you spot.  I would assume it would need a time limited to represent the cable length.  Any chance this could work? 
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 08-06-2014, 02:06:40
Is goliath a missle?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: 0utlaw on 08-06-2014, 09:06:22
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t129/x0utlawx/th_screen001_zps2c991849.png) (http://s159.photobucket.com/user/x0utlawx/media/screen001_zps2c991849.png.html)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 08-06-2014, 09:06:11
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t129/x0utlawx/th_screen001_zps2c991849.png) (http://s159.photobucket.com/user/x0utlawx/media/screen001_zps2c991849.png.html)

Soo.... what can that be?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: McCloskey on 08-06-2014, 12:06:17
first i thought it resembled Iwo Jima a bit.. but that's most likely a long shot
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LuckyOne on 08-06-2014, 13:06:27
The hills in the middle look a bit too high, but it does bear some resemblance... Is it the WAW tourney version?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 08-06-2014, 14:06:48
My guess is Iwo Jima custom map.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 10-06-2014, 23:06:48
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EI3u80z1qKo
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 11-06-2014, 00:06:50
That's such an interesting song :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 11-06-2014, 01:06:47
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EI3u80z1qKo

My only guess it will be in an upcoming loading map screen. ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Wakain on 19-06-2014, 00:06:01
Reminds me of bf1942 Operation Husky, with the lighting and such.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 04-07-2014, 02:07:12
Ladies and Gentlemen we have a new map to conspire about 8)
(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/news/140702/berezin.jpg)

Whatever this map is; the Russian main sports an IL-2, two SU-76Ms, and a Lend Lease M3A1 Scout Car.
Slightly overcast? or bright blue skys? (can't tell) obviously not the sunset autumn feel of Dukla Pass which TS said doesn't have planes on anyway.

Any guesses? :) 
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 04-07-2014, 02:07:28
This one:

(http://i.imgur.com/EUsK3qm.png)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 04-07-2014, 05:07:39
Battle of Prokhorovka


 ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 04-07-2014, 12:07:11
Battle of Prokhorovka


 ;)
I don't know, it looks more like a "Germany's last stand map" considering the German propaganda/moral booster.
But I could be wrong.  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 04-07-2014, 13:07:47
I don't know, it looks more like a "Germany's last stand map" considering the German propaganda/moral booster.
But I could be wrong.  ;)
Add to this 1945 camo on that panther. Definitely not Prokhorovka.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: th_battleaxe on 04-07-2014, 14:07:45
Seelow Heights, probably.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 04-07-2014, 15:07:29
Seelow Heights, probably.

Dude, you're a ...

(http://www.1000rr.net/forums/attachments/lounge/76257d1366321457-post-up-your-funny-motorcycle-pics-genius-funny-motorcycle-demotivational-poster-1248274471.jpg)

 :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Eat Uranium on 04-07-2014, 16:07:32
FYI, the nearer SU-76M was deliberately parked there by me to hide something.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: hitm4k3r on 04-07-2014, 18:07:20
But I can see the roof of the house behind it  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 04-07-2014, 19:07:12
Is it the house, or something between the SU-76M and the house?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: hitm4k3r on 04-07-2014, 20:07:39
Something between. Since when do we have conspiracies for buildings?  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 04-07-2014, 20:07:52
Could we have another hint? Like, if its a vehicle; which class of vehicle is it? (soft-skin transport, armored transport, armored strike vehicle, wheeled or tracked, etc..)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 04-07-2014, 21:07:30
 .....maybe its a sign saying so many kilometers to berlin?

 :-\

Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 04-07-2014, 21:07:07
It's a Russian vehicle ported over from FH1. Since it is high quality, we might keep using it, dunno if anybody will make an FH2 version.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LuckyOne on 04-07-2014, 21:07:15
IS2 the greatest Tank of WWII!  :P

But wait that wasn't HD IIRC. I guess it's the GAZ then...
(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/images/news/123%20-%20gaz1.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 04-07-2014, 22:07:05
Cool! I always like vehicles like that :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 04-07-2014, 22:07:06
It's not that one.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 04-07-2014, 22:07:20
Okay, uhh... Is it the T-26?
I mean that's pretty high quality. But I remember seeing a T-26 with a different texture in one of the dev's blog. Is the texture edited?
(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/images/vehicles/T-26/big.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 04-07-2014, 22:07:04
On the same map like a Panther G with ambush camo?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 04-07-2014, 23:07:39
Okay okay, I give up  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MaJ.P.Bouras on 05-07-2014, 10:07:40
Nobody said it had to be a ground vehicle.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 05-07-2014, 11:07:16
But aviation stuff would be on the runway, wouldnt they?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TASSER on 07-07-2014, 17:07:13
Pickup kits

...

I don't place novelty kits like bare hand kits, angry farmer kits or that one kit nobody has found yet...

Any ideas?

Throwable mortar rounds (SPR style) on Ramelle? Anti-tank .45? Unlimited ammo MG on Omaha?

I saw somewhere there used to be some great Tommy gun kits on Crete. Don't remember the specifics of what was in the kit, but they were supposedly hid in the beds at monastery? May still be there. I tried looking one day but couldn't find them.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LuckyOne on 07-07-2014, 18:07:48
^ Oh you silly, it's the kit with the bag...

*sound of black helicopters fading in the distance*
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 07-07-2014, 19:07:52
^ Oh you silly, it's the kit with the bag...

(http://static.gamespot.com/uploads/original/767/7672287/2361855-6442745602-wpid-m.jpeg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 07-07-2014, 19:07:02
^ Oh you silly, it's the kit with the bag...

*sound of black helicopters fading in the distance*

No I don't mean the bagpipes kit. Everybody knows that one.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Harmonikater on 07-07-2014, 19:07:58
?
(http://i752.photobucket.com/albums/xx166/Harmonikater/Bild2_zps418fed0c.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 07-07-2014, 20:07:08
the hell is fm 2429 and flashlight?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MaJ.P.Bouras on 07-07-2014, 20:07:25
(http://media.moddb.com/images/articles/1/33/32513/auto/fm2429-news.jpg)

And Flashlight is the flashlights on that night map.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TASSER on 07-07-2014, 20:07:07
holyhandgrenade

Interesting.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 07-07-2014, 20:07:43
What night map  ???
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Miklas on 07-07-2014, 22:07:50
jap binocs. Interesting....
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MaJ.P.Bouras on 07-07-2014, 22:07:09
Italians VS Brit SAS or something like that... Operation Hyacinth ?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 07-07-2014, 22:07:18
Never found a flashlight there, to be honest :O
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 07-07-2014, 23:07:38
holyhandgrenade

Interesting.

Are there any caves or rabbits found in any of the FH2 maps?  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 07-07-2014, 23:07:09
(http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110125053836/mafiawars/images/e/e0/Huge_item_holyhandgrenade_01.png)

Maybe "holy hand grenade" is this? I dont know what its called though...

 ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MaJ.P.Bouras on 08-07-2014, 10:07:47
Never found a flashlight there, to be honest :O


Wait i thought it was the static on the towers... Hmmm flashlight huh...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Harmonikater on 08-07-2014, 10:07:02
The static template on the towers is called spotlight. So keep searching :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 10-07-2014, 22:07:53
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EI3u80z1qKo

This one:

(http://i.imgur.com/EUsK3qm.png)


These clues must be leading to something...



Berlin, No shit.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 16-07-2014, 19:07:01
Want more clues?

(http://i.imgur.com/CfIh3Gi.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 16-07-2014, 19:07:04
"Victory or Siberia" Ohh.. :D And what's written behind on that building?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Airshark79 on 16-07-2014, 20:07:46
Looks sick. I am just introduced to but I already love the idea of Germans flipping shit over losing. This is brilliant!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 16-07-2014, 20:07:38
"Victory or Siberia" Ohh.. :D And what's written behind on that building?

"Die Wende kommt - DURCHHALTEN!"
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 16-07-2014, 21:07:32
So much German propaganda writings...     I love it!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Surfbird on 16-07-2014, 22:07:13
"Victory or Siberia" Ohh.. :D And what's written behind on that building?

"Die Wende kommt - DURCHHALTEN!"

=> The turnaround is coming - Stand strong!

would be a ~ translation.

So we are in Germany on the Eastern front in 1945. I can't see much more hints than in the picture with the Panther with this one.

I only noticed the 88 in that garage on the left covering the street (Or is it optically misleading and is in front of it?) Wouldnt fit into a village of 10 houses if you ask me. More like the town entrance to something bigger? ;) Also writings on walls only make sense with the respective spectators seeing it. With that first picture everything leads to the conclusion that it's Berlin, but other towns are still possible. Like, as others mentioned, the town of Seelow might be possible too.

Just checked something: (http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/Schummi/berlin.jpg)

So this one is indeed from Berlin, found also another picture with the 2 slogans from the last screenshot being on one sign, but no clue about its location. I rather think you devs collected slogans and put them where you think it fits. Anyway, as this picture is kinda well known, I wouldn't be surprised if the map is indeed about Berlin. Especially as you copied the writing style
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 16-07-2014, 23:07:41
Looks like Berlin outskirts map...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Godall on 17-07-2014, 00:07:16
Battle of the Seelow Heights 100000%
 Oder 8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 17-07-2014, 00:07:33
Berlin, Seelow or the Battle of Halbe!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 17-07-2014, 01:07:20
I'm more psyched for the Eastern Front than ever 8)

Could be a stupid question but it looks like some of the graffiti is actually on there and not just post-photoshopped onto the picture :P; is some of this graffiti actually on the map in the form of custom skins? or just a clever way of dropping hints?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 17-07-2014, 01:07:29
It is on the map, like those graffities on the walls in Tobruk.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 17-07-2014, 02:07:05
It is on the map, like those graffities on the walls in Tobruk.

Awesome 8)
My personal favorite:
(http://i.imgur.com/pKq0c6F.jpg)

So history lesson time; I guess it was common for the Germans to paint motivational messages on vehicles and buildings late in the war?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 18-07-2014, 00:07:31
(http://i.imgur.com/MouTiDX.jpg)

Fast! Everybody tell Fred this looks good, so he makes more!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Airshark79 on 18-07-2014, 01:07:51
Real nice. Though you could add a bit more polys to the pipe on top.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 18-07-2014, 01:07:05
That isn't good, its awesome! :) Interested to see more of Fred's work after seeing this, his apartment static and Il-2 cockpit.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 18-07-2014, 01:07:26
Fred that's nothing short of amazing 8) glad you can find the time and patience to get these done.

This is truly on par with all the other FH2 statics, which is saying something ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 18-07-2014, 01:07:56
Awesome! Now just add an intact version and some other variants  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 18-07-2014, 01:07:01
Looks good, Fred. Will you make more now?

/me feels like talking to a robot ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Surfbird on 18-07-2014, 01:07:43
Keep going! Awesome (German?) building.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst on 18-07-2014, 09:07:52
Looks awesome! Make moooooooooooooooooooooooore!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 18-07-2014, 11:07:22
WOW. Mother of God, that is very good work! Keep it up Fred! I always loved new developers cranking out so many awesome stuff. ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 18-07-2014, 11:07:13
Looks great!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: RAnDOOm on 18-07-2014, 12:07:19
(http://i.imgur.com/MouTiDX.jpg)

That looks fantastic.

Nicely done.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 18-07-2014, 13:07:42
That looks fantastic.
Imagine what can be done with it with addition of some sandbags, planks, random furniture, rubble and... MGs. This static will be a fortress  8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Darman on 18-07-2014, 13:07:39
Awesome. Looks like something close to the centre of Berlin.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 18-07-2014, 13:07:12
That looks fantastic.
Imagine what can be done with it with addition of some sandbags, planks, random furniture, rubble and... MGs. This static will be a fortress  8)

Cant wait to storm it or defend it  8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 18-07-2014, 14:07:47
Awesome. Looks like something close to the centre of Berlin.
looks more like a generic urban static to me ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 18-07-2014, 14:07:02
Not even necessarily "urban" in the city centre sense. Could as well be used in a suburban environment, like a worker settlement for example.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 18-07-2014, 14:07:25
Wow, that's really great Fred, very nice work! :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mattitatti on 18-07-2014, 18:07:18
Keep going Fred! Awesome work!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 18-07-2014, 19:07:26
 If The World Famous "Fred" reveals a Reichstag Static, i may swim to Germany & start a parade.



(http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110219045722/fallout/images/2/2f/Reichstag_after_World_War_II_-_1945.jpg)

(http://worldwar2database.com/sites/default/files/wwii0266.jpg)


 8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Alubat on 19-07-2014, 12:07:03
Awesome building !!  :)

Sg "Wer is se toilet ?"
Co "Just take the elevator to the third"
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 29-07-2014, 16:07:20
From the recent changelog:
Quote
* Battle of Lenino crashbug fix (ts4ever)

Should we expect the Polish forces of the East? Your thoughts.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 29-07-2014, 17:07:34
BTW, did anyone ever find the hidden Radbear?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 29-07-2014, 18:07:30
From the recent changelog:
Quote
* Battle of Lenino crashbug fix (ts4ever)

Should we expect the Polish forces of the East? Your thoughts.

I think I saw maps of Battle of Lenino in Aserafimov's Photobucket page.
Did you guys finally let him join the team?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Stubbfan on 29-07-2014, 18:07:55
What do you mean finally let him? We has been an applicant before, and didn't have time at that point to finish his application. He's now an applicant again.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 29-07-2014, 18:07:12
BTW, did anyone ever find the hidden Radbear?
Where did we have to look?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 30-07-2014, 00:07:54
I think I saw maps of Battle of Lenino in Aserafimov's Photobucket page.
Did you guys finally let him join the team?
Aserafimov's internal forum profile was registered on 03-02-2012, 18:47:50
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst on 30-07-2014, 08:07:39
Not sure if getting Hungarians (atleast skins for vehicles?) or Devs just trolling:

* Levels - Arad - update (fhbeta_5hitm4k3r)
* Custom Panzer IVH texture for arad (ts4ever)
* Hanomag skin for arad (ts4ever)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 30-07-2014, 14:07:09
Not sure if getting Hungarians (atleast skins for vehicles?) or Devs just trolling:

* Levels - Arad - update (fhbeta_5hitm4k3r)
* Custom Panzer IVH texture for arad (ts4ever)
* Hanomag skin for arad (ts4ever)

Yes, I have seen a lot of interesting things in that new changelog.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Godall on 30-07-2014, 16:07:33
BTW, did anyone ever find the hidden Radbear?
Where to find it?

This teddy bear to the Eastern Front?))
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 30-07-2014, 17:07:38
One was hidden on a rather cold map.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 30-07-2014, 17:07:13
One was hidden on a rather cold map.
Ah, OK. I thought it was related to the more recent posts in this thread.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 30-07-2014, 18:07:57
That reminds me: I wanna try out something. Can somebody please place a file called beta.txt in his fh2 folder and start the game? I wanna see what happens.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Harmonikater on 30-07-2014, 18:07:00
It's about to attack me. I'm sure of it.
(http://hoststuff.forgottenhonor.com/hoststuff/fh2/Modding/HarmonikatersModellingCave/teddy.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 30-07-2014, 18:07:32
It's about to attack me. I'm sure of it.
(http://hoststuff.forgottenhonor.com/hoststuff/fh2/Modding/HarmonikatersModellingCave/teddy.jpg)

It has a shotgun!  :D Its one of the Bulge maps for sure.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst on 30-07-2014, 18:07:59
That reminds me: I wanna try out something. Can somebody please place a file called beta.txt in his fh2 folder and start the game? I wanna see what happens.

I could use a Beta account, its not like there is one coincendently free  :P?

Edit: Wrong quote.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 30-07-2014, 19:07:09
That reminds me: I wanna try out something. Can somebody please place a file called beta.txt in his fh2 folder and start the game? I wanna see what happens.
I think the only thing which happens is that the startup screen will show the word BETA in red letters.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Surfbird on 30-07-2014, 19:07:20
It's about to attack me. I'm sure of it.
(http://hoststuff.forgottenhonor.com/hoststuff/fh2/Modding/HarmonikatersModellingCave/teddy.jpg)

It has a shotgun!  :D Its one of the Bulge maps for sure.

Looks like some kind of slope in the background leading to a valley. I'd check Meuse.

Or not, thinking about it Meuse is not snowy enough..
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: RAnDOOm on 30-07-2014, 19:07:40
It's about to attack me. I'm sure of it.
(http://hoststuff.forgottenhonor.com/hoststuff/fh2/Modding/HarmonikatersModellingCave/teddy.jpg)

Nice one.   8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hjaldrgud on 30-07-2014, 22:07:44
That's so cute!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Godall on 31-07-2014, 19:07:06
That's so cute!
::)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FatJoe on 03-08-2014, 03:08:01
It's worth mentioning to those who don't know about that teddy bear.
One of our developer nicknamed Rad, originally made that teddy bear. Sadly, Rad passed away after a long battle with cancer a few years back and ever after when some of us see that teddy bear, we think of Rad.

We miss you Rad!
(http://joe.simnet.is/FH/RadBear.png)


----

In order to maintain conspiracies though:

One day I will contribute to this thread, and it will blow minds (or will it?)

Discuss
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TASSER on 03-08-2014, 15:08:02
A great post the Devs put together for Rad: http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/news.php?id_news=318&search=rad

Can't say I ever knew him, but I was deeply touched by that news update. Shows a lot of class on the part of the FH Developers. It's wonderful that folks are still carrying on his legacy. Goes to show that Forgotten Hope is way, way more than just a mod.

---

And what's this you're conspiring Joe? Are you fiddling with any modding these days?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Tuco on 06-08-2014, 03:08:21
That reminds me: I wanna try out something. Can somebody please place a file called beta.txt in his fh2 folder and start the game? I wanna see what happens.

(http://i.imgur.com/o8DPQWF.png)

You tease. Id try to start around the launcher but cant find the exe/too lazy to look.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: th_battleaxe on 06-08-2014, 10:08:21
Reading that news update about Rad again... Wow, I can't believe it's been 4 years already.

I also never noticed the G.I. skin until now. Makes it even more sad that that model was somehow lost in translation.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 09-08-2014, 01:08:04
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL5J-jh00HQ
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: th_battleaxe on 09-08-2014, 13:08:42
Loading music for Dukla Pass? Or are you up to something else?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Harmonikater on 10-08-2014, 15:08:15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOGSKTlnAtI&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 10-08-2014, 22:08:34
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL5J-jh00HQ
Loading music for Dukla Pass? Or are you up to something else?
Siegfried's Death and Funeral March is always for the win, but it really would be more appropriate for a Reichstag/Berlin map.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOGSKTlnAtI&feature=youtu.be
Forward Air Controller that can bomb things from top-down perspective? :o

Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 10-08-2014, 22:08:00
Like in FH 0.7, those things were neat, especially the ones that let you call in a B-17.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LuckyOne on 10-08-2014, 22:08:38
^ Told ya guys we might see strategic bombers in FH2 some day!  ;D

... first as a call in...

then one day someone will get the bright idea to actually let the players fly those things and we will happily play proper Battle of Britain / Bombing The Reich in FH 2 :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TASSER on 11-08-2014, 12:08:39
That's really cool Harmonikater! Those were always a blast in FH1.

Thanks for sharing!!!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hjaldrgud on 11-08-2014, 14:08:48
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOGSKTlnAtI&feature=youtu.be

 :o

CRY HAVOC AND LET SLIP THE MUSTANGS OF WAR
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 17-08-2014, 13:08:57
I doubt there will be a news update about this: We (more exactly, Stubbfan) just added a new American tank, which will be on Meuse River. Discuss.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Surfbird on 17-08-2014, 14:08:58
A Pershing?

Or is Meuse a few weeks/months too early for that?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 17-08-2014, 14:08:02
Not the Pershing.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 17-08-2014, 14:08:17
But is it a tank after all?  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst on 17-08-2014, 14:08:34
Sherman Calliope!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 17-08-2014, 14:08:10
Good idea, but no.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 17-08-2014, 15:08:52
It is not a tank Ts4EVER, it is new american tank destroyer.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Musti on 17-08-2014, 15:08:49
A variant of M36 perhaps?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 17-08-2014, 15:08:15
M36 with Sherman hull?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 17-08-2014, 15:08:36
M36B1?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Stubbfan on 17-08-2014, 15:08:30
Yupyup. Good guessing.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Surfbird on 17-08-2014, 16:08:54
Sweet. So this one also has a MG gunner in front as secondary spot like a regular Sherman has?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Stubbfan on 17-08-2014, 16:08:47
It does. Mean machine.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 17-08-2014, 17:08:07
Love it. Just wondering, are there any further limitations on the (US) anti-tank class or keep it as it is?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 18-08-2014, 02:08:27
It does. Mean machine.

This thing is beastly. 90mm cannon and the armor of an m4a3 ;) I might actually camp for the Jackson on a server now.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 18-08-2014, 15:08:43
I bet that powerful "tank" is Rad's bear. ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 19-08-2014, 21:08:12
One day I will contribute to this thread, and it will blow minds (or will it?)

Discuss

Does this involve any concept art of the upcoming front(s)?  :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 01-09-2014, 13:09:53
(http://i.imgur.com/G37B2oh.png)

Is that one of ours?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 01-09-2014, 14:09:06
Damn beautiful!  :o Beutepanzer it was called, right?
Will there be more captured vehicles or weapons in the next version?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Battlefieldfan45 (CroPanzer) on 01-09-2014, 17:09:32
 A W E S O M E

Looking damn sexy!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 01-09-2014, 18:09:53
GREATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT :o

And one question,On Dukla map WHERE ARE RUSSIAN ARTILLERY GUNS???
                                                     (like german LeFH 105mm)
Staljin said "Artillery is queen of battle"
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 01-09-2014, 23:09:24
They have a katjusha in their mainbase.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 02-09-2014, 01:09:27
 Im so excited to play your maps Ts4EVER.

 How many Official maps have you made?

 And how many more will we possibly see in the future?


 Keep up the good work mate!!

 ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 02-09-2014, 13:09:56
I know but there were 100 times more artillery guns then katjusa
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: hitm4k3r on 02-09-2014, 15:09:50
It really depends on the situation. In those areas around the Carpathian Mountains the frontlines were shifting pretty fast (100 km per day were possible) so artillery played a "minor" role compared to tanks and transport that saw heavy usage. The engaging forces were on the move basicly all the time wich makes heavy artillery usage more difficult. But don't be affraid. It is likely that you will see some heavy artillery on other maps.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 02-09-2014, 22:09:01
Also, the Russians start in a wooded valley, so there is not much opportunity for artillery.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 03-09-2014, 14:09:00
And what is with that map "Siegfreid line" Germans vs British?That is not Eastern front.Will be update with that map or..
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Stubbfan on 03-09-2014, 15:09:51
We have a lot of maps which has been in and out in the mod in various states. Many of these will never be finished for different reasons.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 03-09-2014, 15:09:19
Siegfried Line is a remake of the BF 2142 map Verdun, started but never finished by Natty.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kasztelan on 03-09-2014, 16:09:41
What about Pegasus Bridge? I'd like to see that Sten Mk V in game ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Erwin on 03-09-2014, 16:09:46
Siegfried Line is a remake of the BF 2142 map Verdun, started but never finished by Natty.

Release it and let some custom mapper to finish them perhaps?  ???
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LuckyOne on 03-09-2014, 17:09:59
Siegfried Line is a remake of the BF 2142 map Verdun, started but never finished by Natty.

But Natty is still lurking around here nowadays... Maybe he'll finish it some day -->  8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 03-09-2014, 17:09:18
Don't put ideas in his head.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 03-09-2014, 18:09:31
Will all assets have winter cammo? Will Russians have winter uniforms? Is some winter map being worked on?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 03-09-2014, 19:09:54
Will all assets have winter cammo? Will Russians have winter uniforms? Is some winter map being worked on?

I think some developer said there wouldnt be any winter maps for Eastern front, which disappointed a lot of people, but who knows...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 03-09-2014, 19:09:33
No to all three questions, for now.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 03-09-2014, 22:09:28
Pity... But thanks for answer anyway.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TASSER on 04-09-2014, 01:09:47
Yeah Mudzin, from what I recall from other threads they're focusing on summer maps for now ('43-'44 maybe?)

Feel free to correct if I'm off.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 04-09-2014, 02:09:38
July 1943 - May 1945, Spring, Summer and Fall
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 04-09-2014, 19:09:18
Polish board on the East front:

http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/fh2_maps.php?

Interesting...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 04-09-2014, 19:09:34
Polish board on the East front:

http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/fh2_maps.php?

Interesting...

I'm guessing the devs are just using the FH1's board of maps, instead of taking their time to remove Poland.

Then again, the devs might be telling the truth - Polish could be a possibility. ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 04-09-2014, 20:09:36
Polish board on the East front:

http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/fh2_maps.php?

Interesting...

I'm guessing the devs are just using the FH1's board of maps, instead of taking their time to remove Poland.

Then again, the devs might be telling the truth - Polish could be a possibility. ;)


It would be AWESOME to have Poland, but unfortunately the first option sounds more possible....
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 04-09-2014, 20:09:34
I'm guessing the devs are just using the FH1's board of maps, instead of taking their time to remove Poland.
This.

As stated above devs work on maps and content from years 43-45, so unfortunately, no Poland at this time.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 04-09-2014, 21:09:47
We lost the psd files for these icons and everybody is too lazy to make new ones.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: gamerjer on 04-09-2014, 22:09:29
and how about finland?  ;D  =-p
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 04-09-2014, 22:09:54
Finland will be in the first Ostfront patch.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 04-09-2014, 23:09:07
Holy fuck.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 04-09-2014, 23:09:04
I'm guessing the devs are just using the FH1's board of maps, instead of taking their time to remove Poland.
This.

As stated above devs work on maps and content from years 43-45, so unfortunately, no Poland at this time.

(http://i.imgur.com/nxkb4uY.png)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 05-09-2014, 00:09:36
1939 polan cannot ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 05-09-2014, 00:09:27
1939 polan cannot ;)

That spices up things a bit :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 05-09-2014, 13:09:25
How many Finnland maps will be??One,Two'? ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Eat Uranium on 05-09-2014, 16:09:27
We will not answer that question until they appear in the news.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hjaldrgud on 05-09-2014, 18:09:21
We will not answer that question until they appear in the news.

(http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k619/Hjaldrgud/13952812831949dsf88.jpg)
Where is your God now?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 05-09-2014, 21:09:52
LOL, good one :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Fuchs on 05-09-2014, 22:09:30
Devs refuse, USA puts sanctions on FH2.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst on 05-09-2014, 23:09:52
Devs refuse, USA puts sanctions on FH2.

So Devs can get secret support by Russia  8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: gavrant on 05-09-2014, 23:09:09
We officially deny our involvement into the Finnish Front. We do not render assistance and do not lend human resources to either side fighting there. Any screenshots of pine forests you may have seen or will see in this thread, are actually screenshots of Gazala somewhat photoshoped by the State Department.
Ts4Ever is currently on a trip beyond the Arctic Circle, but sends his regrets for this embarrassing mistake.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MaJ.P.Bouras on 06-09-2014, 00:09:04
I for one would support Pine forested Gazala.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TASSER on 06-09-2014, 00:09:36
Conspiracy Thread. You're doing it right.  :)


We will not answer that question until they appear in the news.

(http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k619/Hjaldrgud/13952812831949dsf88.jpg)
Where is your God now?

We officially deny our involvement into the Finnish Front. We do not render assistance and do not lend human resources to either side fighting there. Any screenshots of pine forests you may have seen or will see in this thread, are actually screenshots of Gazala somewhat photoshoped by the State Department.
Ts4Ever is currently on a trip beyond the Arctic Circle, but sends his regrets for this embarrassing mistake.

Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Sagal on 06-09-2014, 01:09:08
Flippy for you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DUpIhG0VsE :) WE DEMAND!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 06-09-2014, 01:09:54
Not sure what you are trying to say here.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 06-09-2014, 12:09:06
Ha ha ha hjalgrund nice one. But why dont you put more screenshots,pictures,i mean we are waiting eastern front for long time and there is just one map showed to us. I know there is a lot of work to do but devs,,at least put screenshots 8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: gamerjer on 06-09-2014, 13:09:08
cant wait till it comes out, im verry curious hehe  ;D :P 8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Eat Uranium on 06-09-2014, 19:09:21
We will not answer that question until they appear in the news.

(http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k619/Hjaldrgud/13952812831949dsf88.jpg)
Where is your God now?
You want an answer?  OK, fine.

(http://i.imgur.com/BaddNee.png)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 06-09-2014, 19:09:11
I bet nobody will believe it when I will say it, but it isn't fake. Sadly, Kuuterselka will NOT be released.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 06-09-2014, 19:09:18
And Im glad.  8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst on 06-09-2014, 21:09:45
Sorry can't believe that. Nobody of you is a certified Dreamcrusher.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TASSER on 08-09-2014, 02:09:01
And Im glad.  8)

Lousy map? Wasn't up to par?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kubador on 08-09-2014, 02:09:40
I actually like that map.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Nissi on 08-09-2014, 07:09:28
Sorry can't believe that. Nobody of you is a certified Dreamcrusher.

No we really decided to delete Kuuter.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 08-09-2014, 10:09:11
So what there will be Finnish army without finnish battles ???
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 08-09-2014, 10:09:54
And Im glad.  8)

Lousy map? Wasn't up to par?
Finnish warbear was bitchin about that map being historical innacurate! It is all his fault!

So what there will be Finnish army without finnish battles ???
Who told you there aren't any other finnish front maps?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: titsmcgee852 on 08-09-2014, 15:09:22
What was so bad about it just curiously?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Eat Uranium on 08-09-2014, 16:09:30
What was so bad about it just curiously?
Too many trees.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 08-09-2014, 17:09:10
So what there will be Finnish army without finnish battles ???
ALL IS AS I HAVE FORESEEN IT
Playing the other day, I got a suspicion.

What if the devs are going to troll us and remove everything except the Finnish and African front? Existing Normandy/Bulge maps are just renamed and vehicles and some statics replaced (and in some cases, attacker/defender reversed). St. Vith will become Viipuri, Hürtgenwald will become Ihantala, etc.

No. Wait. Africa is barren... Lapland is barren... they are going to transform Africa into Lapland War! Bardia will become Kemi, Tunis will become Rovaniemi... How does shooting down Stukas with a Brewster sound?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: hitm4k3r on 08-09-2014, 17:09:00
There are too many trees on Hurtgen to be become Ihantala   :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 08-09-2014, 17:09:31
And not enough water.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kubador on 08-09-2014, 19:09:38
So what there will be Finnish army without finnish battles ???
ALL IS AS I HAVE FORESEEN IT
Playing the other day, I got a suspicion.

What if the devs are going to troll us and remove everything except the Finnish and African front? Existing Normandy/Bulge maps are just renamed and vehicles and some statics replaced (and in some cases, attacker/defender reversed). St. Vith will become Viipuri, Hürtgenwald will become Ihantala, etc.

No. Wait. Africa is barren... Lapland is barren... they are going to transform Africa into Lapland War! Bardia will become Kemi, Tunis will become Rovaniemi... How does shooting down Stukas with a Brewster sound?

*KSHHHK* calling black choppers. over *KSHHHK*
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FatJoe on 11-09-2014, 01:09:11
We will not answer that question until they appear in the news.

(http://i1118.photobucket.com/albums/k619/Hjaldrgud/13952812831949dsf88.jpg)
Where is your God now?

Something felt strangely familiar with that news anchor, hats off for using an Icelandic news agency for the photoshop (the day I see my wallpaper as an actual news item in the local news, is going to be a very proud pink tutu moment!)


PS.
This isn't the mindblowing post I talked about earlier...  :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Zoologic on 11-09-2014, 05:09:59

(the day I see my wallpaper as an actual news item in the local news, is going to be a very proud pink tutu moment!)


I take this part rather very seriously. And I hope our interpretation is the same.

p.s. we want a proper picture this time  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: hitm4k3r on 11-09-2014, 14:09:14
http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?topic=19275.0

Is this not enough?  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Musti on 11-09-2014, 18:09:44
Same old promises, same old lies
http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?topic=19275.0

Is this not enough?  ;D
No, he was supposed to have ONLY the tutu, and he shouldn't look cool while wearing it damn it!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Zoologic on 11-09-2014, 19:09:52
Nevertheless, props to Joe for putting up a picture, although not a proper one.  8) 8) 8)\

Anyway, where has Thondoror gone? Is this the work of Black Helicopter? Is there a certain post of his that I must be really wary of?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kubador on 11-09-2014, 19:09:53
Time gnaws at all of us :/
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 17-09-2014, 19:09:28
Question: how many people do oyu think downloaded 2.48 in the last 1.5 months?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Musti on 17-09-2014, 19:09:22
Question: how many people do oyu think downloaded 2.48 in the last 1.5 months?
11538 and a half.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: RAnDOOm on 17-09-2014, 19:09:49
Question: how many people do oyu think downloaded 2.48 in the last 1.5 months?

1208

How many people ( average wise ) are playing FH2 per day ?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 17-09-2014, 20:09:41
Question: how many people do oyu think downloaded 2.48 in the last 1.5 months?

1208

How many people ( average wise ) are playing FH2 per day ?

Im sure for 100 players, but more than 150  playing on day......... :(
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 17-09-2014, 21:09:04
Question: how many people do oyu think downloaded 2.48 in the last 1.5 months?

I would say quite a lot, this is only people who registered at 762 after the gamespy switch: (the numbers are somewhere near I would think)

(http://s1.postimg.org/hbx7zbdz3/Untitled.png)

Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 17-09-2014, 22:09:56
Close. It`s 6643.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hjaldrgud on 17-09-2014, 22:09:26
That warms my heart to hear.

We few, we happy 6643, we band of brothers
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 17-09-2014, 22:09:14
And what saddens me is that majority of those who downloaded FH2 end up playing the sp and then uploading shit quality videos into youtube.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 17-09-2014, 22:09:02
Just remove SP in 2.5, problem solved.

Those people should definitely get with the times and get the Internet. It's awesome. #dealwithit
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: titsmcgee852 on 20-09-2014, 17:09:24
Some of us would love to play FH2 online, but bf2 + 200 ping is barely playable so SP is all there is.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: GeoPat on 20-09-2014, 17:09:21
Quote
Some of us would love to play FH2 online, but bf2 + 200 ping is barely playable so SP is all there is.
Why don't people like you get together and get a server?  BTW, there are public servers on both sides of the Atlantic.  Don't forget about WaW.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 20-09-2014, 18:09:34
WAW Thursdays!!! :D and Fri and Sat!! Join up soldier!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 21-09-2014, 10:09:00
762 Ranked!!!!!!Deutsche Server-24/7
The best time is 7,8 and 9 hour at evening by europeian time
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Tuco on 22-09-2014, 04:09:27
Just remove SP in 2.5, problem solved.

Those people should definitely get with the times and get the Internet. It's awesome. #dealwithit

I will cut you...

Seriously though i enjoy both so win/win.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 22-09-2014, 09:09:49
Can anybody say what is with this big artilery gun -15 cm sIG 33?In german weapons says upcoming so i wonder in which maps and when
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 25-09-2014, 16:09:28
Check out what I found today:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYYS7JBTlgA&list=FL8jchxiANaGIxWLjf0BGjUw&index=1
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 25-09-2014, 16:09:55
Interesting
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 25-09-2014, 17:09:31
Did the devs know about it or is it completely new to you too?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 25-09-2014, 17:09:59
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/4310467328/h436523E0/)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 25-09-2014, 21:09:35
Wow thanks for sharing that Turkish!

IIRC that vehicle was in FH1 Kursk, perhaps it might be in FH2. ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 25-09-2014, 22:09:55
Just out of curiosity, was the mysterious vehicle/object behind the SU-76 the La-5?

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/news/140702/berezin.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Eat Uranium on 25-09-2014, 22:09:10
Nope, the La-5 is actually behind the camera in that shot.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LuckyOne on 25-09-2014, 23:09:32
Check out what I found today:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYYS7JBTlgA&list=FL8jchxiANaGIxWLjf0BGjUw&index=1

That's got to be fake. After all everyone knows remote stuff simply isn't working in BF2.  ::)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 25-09-2014, 23:09:00
Check out what I found today:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYYS7JBTlgA&list=FL8jchxiANaGIxWLjf0BGjUw&index=1

Oh, so thats the famous Goliath project about Ive heard some rumours here and there lately...  :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 26-09-2014, 08:09:37
Question,Can you destroy bridges???BF2 engine has it so it would be nice
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Chad1992 on 28-09-2014, 07:09:05
Whoa!  That would be awesome to have the goliath!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 28-09-2014, 15:09:57
Goliaths were rather clumsy and "hilarious" to maneuver (according to the Allied reports), I hope this will be considered in the gameplay.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 28-09-2014, 17:09:26
That can be adjusted easily.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 28-09-2014, 17:09:10
That would be great Turkish007. Also, thanks for sharing the vid.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 28-09-2014, 18:09:52
Implying BF2 vehicle physics would not be already so frakking hilarious they are !!FUN!!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 28-09-2014, 18:09:35
That's right! and if you could ride on it too: http://youtu.be/zhK8L0PgPdA?t=22s
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 29-09-2014, 22:09:51
My question up.....can destroy bridge.. ::)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 29-09-2014, 23:09:23
My question up.....can destroy bridge.. ::)

you can destroy bridges in BF2 yes. Afaik tho no FH2 bridges can be destroyed on any existing map.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 29-09-2014, 23:09:03
Meh, sb locked that Goliath video...  ::)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 29-09-2014, 23:09:09
Oh, that's sad. Another beta tester ran loose, I guess.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Chad1992 on 30-09-2014, 18:09:23
(http://myincrediblewebsite.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/Who-Let-the-Cat-Out-of-the-Bag.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: titsmcgee852 on 06-11-2014, 15:11:11
Quick question - are all the hand weapons and such all coded and ready for the next patch? Who does the sound now that Natty has bailed?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 06-11-2014, 15:11:38
AFAIK all handweapons with maybe 1 or 2 exceptions are imported and coded. We are getting new animations for them as we speak.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 06-11-2014, 15:11:52
Quick question - are all the hand weapons and such all coded and ready for the next patch? Who does the sound now that Natty has bailed?
AFAIK new weapon(s) for next patch are ready, question is what will the next patch bring to the community?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 06-11-2014, 15:11:23
Who makes the animations now that Chaf509 is away? Or is he back? I got a chance to talk to him recently, and he says he misses the community, but business interferes.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 11-11-2014, 15:11:25
Who makes the animations now that Cha[d]509 is away? [...]

Things might surprise you if you knew what went behind closed doors. ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 11-11-2014, 22:11:41
Who makes the animations now that Cha[d]509 is away? [...]

Things might surprise you if you knew what went behind closed doors. ;)
WHAT WHAT???????
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Eat Uranium on 11-11-2014, 22:11:23
We've managed to get Michael Bay to do our new animations.  I have to admit, I wasn't sure that the DP reload needed quite so many explosions, but I'm a converted man.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 11-11-2014, 22:11:27
So finaly FH devs are growing for at least 1 member ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 11-11-2014, 22:11:53
Well we have not many new members, but recently a lot of old devs showed up again, namely Fuchswiesel and Guderian.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 11-11-2014, 23:11:50
That is nice to know that maybe EF will move faster
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 12-11-2014, 00:11:40
We've managed to get Michael Bay to do our new animations.  I have to admit, I wasn't sure that the DP reload needed quite so many explosions, but I'm a converted man.
Implying this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmNEG8IFd_Y) isn't the trailer for FH 2.5 ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kubador on 12-11-2014, 05:11:13
We've managed to get Michael Bay to do our new animations.  I have to admit, I wasn't sure that the DP reload needed quite so many explosions, but I'm a converted man.
Implying this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmNEG8IFd_Y) isn't the trailer for FH 2.5 ;D

I always said that the new Russian models are sexy.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LuckyOne on 12-11-2014, 09:11:16
We've managed to get Michael Bay to do our new animations.  I have to admit, I wasn't sure that the DP reload needed quite so many explosions, but I'm a converted man.
Implying this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmNEG8IFd_Y) isn't the trailer for FH 2.5 ;D

Can't be, Russians didn't fly A-26s?  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst on 12-11-2014, 09:11:27
When do you confirm that J.J. Abrams has become a Dev to improve the visual effects?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kubador on 12-11-2014, 10:11:51
Quote
When do you confirm that J.J. Abrams has become a Dev to improve the visual effects?

I'm gonna leak something for you.

Spoiler
(http://s23.postimg.org/ud8et2k1n/FH2by_JJ.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LuckyOne on 12-11-2014, 12:11:19
Cool, will FH2 get a name change too?

FH2: Russia awakens

or

FH2: Into Russia

or even

FH2: Into Redness (Reichness?) :P

 ;D

I'd love to see some posters for this, any takers?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Airshark79 on 12-11-2014, 12:11:50
Ts, did you guys convert verdun to be siegfried line?(quote function doesnt work in wap so I trust your memory.)

Edit, oops, yeah. Saw the earlier posts.

Edit2. Did you guys get any further with it after the last post?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MaJ.P.Bouras on 12-11-2014, 12:11:57
Reminds me of the Metal Gear Solid "Mission Failed" screen  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 12-11-2014, 14:11:41
Ts, did you guys convert verdun to be siegfried line?(quote function doesnt work in wap so I trust your memory.)
Natty (retired dev) did.
 
Edit2. Did you guys get any further with it after the last post?
No. That map is not worth the time it needs to be finished, there is nothing special in it, and it's a fictional scenario. There are many more WIP maps which are much more likely to get into the build somewhere in the future.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Airshark79 on 12-11-2014, 14:11:05
Sorry.

Is there any chance you might release it unpacked for editor, or screenshots? Verdun is amongst the most elaborate maps of 2142.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Alubat on 12-11-2014, 15:11:13
We've managed to get Michael Bay to do our new animations.  I have to admit, I wasn't sure that the DP reload needed quite so many explosions, but I'm a converted man.
Implying this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmNEG8IFd_Y) isn't the trailer for FH 2.5 ;D

I always said that the new Russian models are sexy.

Would be nice with female characters in FH2. Maybe woman could also love this game

Ilsa the she wolf  VS  Russian sniper girl   :-)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: NotOnymous on 13-11-2014, 09:11:23
We've managed to get Michael Bay to do our new animations.  I have to admit, I wasn't sure that the DP reload needed quite so many explosions, but I'm a converted man.
Implying this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmNEG8IFd_Y) isn't the trailer for FH 2.5 ;D

I always said that the new Russian models are sexy.

Would be nice with female characters in FH2. Maybe woman could also love this game

Ilsa the she wolf  VS  Russian sniper girl   :-)


Speaking of Russian vs German snipers: https://www.full30.com/video/82efb579fd3c93d177205966ef3d3c9d


The videos details the use of explosive ammunition by German and Russian snipers on the Eastern Front.

For the Germans that would be: B-Geschoß - (Beobachtung)

More here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7.92%C3%9757mm_Mauser#German_cartridge_variants_during_World_War_II

Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hjaldrgud on 13-11-2014, 10:11:48
Because of engine limitations, you can't make heads explode like melons.
I feel it would have been wrong to have it in the game also, since it's banned and all.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: NotOnymous on 13-11-2014, 20:11:07
Because of engine limitations, you can't make heads explode like melons.
I feel it would have been wrong to have it in the game also, since it's banned and all.


Well, my intention wasn't really for heads to explode like melons  ;D.

When I've been sniping before, I sometimes hit someone without killing them - I'm thinking the explosive ammo could be a guaranteed kill at all distances.

It was used somewhat commonly on the Russian front, so I guess it could be included into the game on those grounds.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 13-11-2014, 20:11:42
Sorry.

Is there any chance you might release it unpacked for editor, or screenshots? Verdun is amongst the most elaborate maps of 2142.

We don't release WIP or unfinished maps. And I guess I could make screenshots, although I'm really not sure what you expect. Unlighted and unpolished BF2 maps tend not to look very spectacular.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Airshark79 on 13-11-2014, 21:11:18
The theme of Verdun is the most powerful of all in 2142, and the best choice for a total conversion.

But I know a good deal about how maps on the editor look. I'm more interested how you handled the wall sector. Center area.

Gah, I hope they restart modding with 2143. It is hard to imagine my 6y/o designs for it becoming waste.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 13-11-2014, 22:11:01
IIRC Natty put the siegfried line in the centre, so there were lots of dragon's teeth and a concrete at ditch.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 14-11-2014, 09:11:29
I think there shoud be on African front this:Sdfk with attached Flak88. I know attachmenst are abanded in FH2 but like PaK which sometimes you can move Flak shoud have the same thing.This wepon shoud be limited like tanks.So Flak attached on Sdfk and you cant disattached it.Veliche life can be little more than usually Sdfk.What do you think?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 14-11-2014, 09:11:13
If only we had SdKfz 9, then we could have the "8.8 cm FlaK 18 (Sfl.) auf Zugkraftwagen 18t (Sd.Kfz. 9)" which was an actual thing (15 conversions made in 1940, dunno if any went to Africa).

EDIT: Apparently there was also "8.8 cm FlaK 18 (Sfl.) auf Zugkraftwagen 12t (Sd.Kfz. 8 )", 10 made in 1939, served in Poland, France and Eastern Front.

Gotta love the short and simple German vehicle names ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 14-11-2014, 18:11:29
Lol
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hjaldrgud on 15-11-2014, 01:11:57
God help the allies.  ;D  The potential rape with a mobile 88 early war goes through the roof! I want it doe!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 26-11-2014, 15:11:16
What happened with motorbike BMW?Why it is only static?I saw one video in which this guy driving it.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn7CS5-xzb8
Jump on 5:25 you will see it.And it has nice sound ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 26-11-2014, 15:11:26
It's not static. You'll find it in Sidi Rezegh and Mount Olympus 8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 26-11-2014, 19:11:31
REALLY??i taught so because of FH2 site you cant find where you can find them on maps.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 27-11-2014, 00:11:08
What happened with motorbike BMW?Why it is only static?I saw one video in which this guy driving it.
It's still there, I have no idea what are you talking about
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Eat Uranium on 27-11-2014, 01:11:34
REALLY??i taught so because of FH2 site you cant find where you can find them on maps.
Assuming I've interpreted this correctly, this has been fixed.  However there are probably other maps with out of date vehicle lists.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 27-11-2014, 07:11:03
REALLY??i taught so because of FH2 site you cant find where you can find them on maps.
Assuming I've interpreted this correctly, this has been fixed.  However there are probably other maps with out of date vehicle lists.

Yes
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 07-12-2014, 10:12:57
There are a 5-6 italian veliche and one british airplane which dont have where to find.I saw that you fixed this about BMW motorbike,thanks
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Eat Uranium on 07-12-2014, 12:12:29
There are a 5-6 italian veliche and one british airplane which dont have where to find.I saw that you fixed this about BMW motorbike,thanks
In this case, I can't fix, because these vehicles are only used on maps under the banner of different countries.  The Italian vehicles can be found on various Africa maps with a mixed German/African team, and the Typhoon is with the Canadians on Totalize.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 08-12-2014, 08:12:04
Thanks
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 11-12-2014, 00:12:39
God, this thread has become boring... anything you want me to leak?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst on 11-12-2014, 01:12:05
Maybe the release date of the pacific front?   ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 11-12-2014, 01:12:48
Maybe the release date of the pacific front?   ;)
FH2 has not much to do with it, why won't you ask about something realistic? ::)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 11-12-2014, 02:12:54
 How many maps will we see in the EF patch?


 Will we see another patch before the EF patch?


 How long before we see another patch?


 8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: 0utlaw on 11-12-2014, 03:12:54
will there be vodka included?  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 11-12-2014, 03:12:55
Not that I know of. Although in terms of easter eggs, each russian map will have a radbear for players to find ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Godall on 11-12-2014, 18:12:36
As we will soon see 3D models of the Russian soldiers?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 11-12-2014, 18:12:32
If I leak those, the other devs will come after my balls.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LuckyOne on 11-12-2014, 18:12:57
will there be vodka included?  ;D

Well the FH2 devs do not promote alcohol consumption... So probably no... Although some Molotov cocktails in vodka bottles would be very nice (and quite simple to make I presume).
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Moustapha on 11-12-2014, 19:12:26
Can you leak some weapons and kits then?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 11-12-2014, 20:12:53
Ok, what kind of kit?  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 11-12-2014, 21:12:14
Finnish kits (if they are ready of course) maybe?  :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 11-12-2014, 22:12:56
OK fine. This is about as Finnish as it gets:

(http://i.imgur.com/e6UelwH.jpg)

Completely WIP and subject to change of course.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 11-12-2014, 22:12:42
I asume it is some finnish map also,what is it?
Not that I know of. Although in terms of easter eggs, each russian map will have a radbear for players to find ;)
Please tell what is radbear?Is that some hidden kit like drilling shoutgun?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 11-12-2014, 22:12:26
The Forgotten Hope mascot in my sig.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 11-12-2014, 22:12:37
So you can find them on maps?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 11-12-2014, 22:12:14
All of my eastern front maps have one at least.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 11-12-2014, 22:12:31
Hahaha lol that is asome but my first question ....isnt answered Ts4
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Eat Uranium on 11-12-2014, 23:12:49
I asume it is some finnish map also,what is it?
firing_range_west

of course that's a lie, but to name that map would be a leak too far
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TASSER on 11-12-2014, 23:12:27
That's a cool shot of the Finnish map. I really, really like the broken tree :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 12-12-2014, 14:12:33
Oh, you like broken trees huh? Well, you might be in for a treat...

/tease
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 12-12-2014, 17:12:00
TS is lying. It's not a new Finnish map. Its a WIP of our new Brazilian Expeditionary Forces. The Suomi is just a placeholder. :-X
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 12-12-2014, 17:12:59
Just out of interest, were there any Soviet Guards tank units equipped with Lend-Lease Shermans on the Karelian Isthmus in 1944, and if so, did they participate in the battles the maps will be about? That would be a hilarious way to troll Finns who were expecting a Sotka-hunting season.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 12-12-2014, 17:12:59
Oh, you like broken trees huh? Well, you might be in for a treat...

/tease

Now this is open to guesses and comments.

Did the devs successfuly code tree logs used to jam the tank's tracks? :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 12-12-2014, 18:12:35
Just out of interest, were there any Soviet Guards tank units equipped with Lend-Lease Shermans on the Karelian Isthmus in 1944, and if so, did they participate in the battles the maps will be about? That would be a hilarious way to troll Finns who were expecting a Sotka-hunting season.

13th Tank Support Company from the 37th Guards Tank Division participated in various battles on Isthmus, mainly supplied with M4A3 Shermans. As their company name implies, they were used to support infantry assaults. Many of these Shermans (http://s17.postimg.org/4nsrp7ktr/wut.png) were taken out by the Finnish tankhunter squads. Some of these Shermans got destroyed so badly, that none of the war time photographers, or the soldiers who were there were able to identify these strange tanks.

Only one piece of cold hard evidence remains and it is the sole survivor Sherman at the Parola tank museum (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:M4_Sherman_Parola_tank_museum.jpg), which the Finns were able to capture intact after the crew had abandoned it.

However, time has passed and historians have finally identified many tank wrecks as Shermans, that can be seen in several photographs, here's some:

Spoiler
You are a complete tit if you bought a word I just said.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 12-12-2014, 19:12:27
TS is lying. It's not a new Finnish map. Its a WIP of our new Brazilian Expeditionary Forces. The Suomi is just a placeholder. :-X

I couldn't have said the words better myself. ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 12-12-2014, 23:12:36
 I think the time for secrecy & misinformation has passed.

 Several years ago when the mod was going strong, "The shroud of secrecy" game was fun to play & it was exciting for the community to see the new stuff.

now, the community has been reduced to a couple of hundred die hard fans playing word games on forums.



Its time to let us in.....there's only a few of us left.
  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 12-12-2014, 23:12:33
I posted something, didn't I? now don't get greedy and know your place :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Wulfburk on 13-12-2014, 08:12:36
Quote
TS is lying. It's not a new Finnish map. Its a WIP of our new Brazilian Expeditionary Forces. The Suomi is just a placeholder. :-X

I know its a complete lie but man they gotta give us  the FEB and the italian front in next update! OR ELSE!

(or else we dont get the FEB and the italian front  :-\ :( :'()
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Klimax on 14-12-2014, 18:12:22
How about a vodka injection bar? If u activate it, your soldier get's drunk and starts singing. And of course the aiming is a little difficultie.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Stubbfan on 14-12-2014, 19:12:57
How about a vodka injection bar? If u activate it, your soldier get's drunk and starts singing. And of course the aiming is a little difficultie.

Finally an idea i like!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 15-12-2014, 12:12:56
How about a vodka injection bar? If u activate it, your soldier get's drunk and starts singing. And of course the aiming is a little difficultie.

...and "kotipolttoista" (moonshine) power-up for the Finns, giving the player increased speed for a brief amount of time  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Airshark79 on 18-12-2014, 12:12:48
Any development with siegfried line? You were going to post screenshots TS.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 18-12-2014, 12:12:56
I was? And no there is no development on Siegfried Line. In fact, I doubt anyone did something with it since 2012. It was the private project of a developer and never even added to the beta.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Airshark79 on 18-12-2014, 12:12:41
Did you say you would, maybe or something else, I don't really remember.

Siegfried is a nice concept. Shame no one is making this map, the concept is proven to be solid, it would increase standards immensely.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: gamerjer on 18-12-2014, 12:12:06
Did you say you would, maybe or something else, I don't really remember.

Siegfried is a nice concept. Shame no one is making this map, the concept is proven to be solid, it would increase standards immensely.
there is a costum map (from a tournament to) that contains the siegfried line its called westwall
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 18-12-2014, 13:12:16
I dont think he has a historical interest in the Siegfried Line, he wants this map because it is a remake of a BF2142 map and he has an irrational aversion towards assymetrical maps.
I had a look at the map itself and while it is a well and professionally made map (as is to be expected from DICE), it is not in any way special. In fact, there are some things that are counter to usual FH2 map design, like the amount of flags in a conquest setup, which would certainly lead to the kind of "ring around the rosey" gameplay people hate. The map is also very scaled, which doesn't fit graphically with most of the newer FH2 maps, although that is a minor point.
All in all I simply don't see a reason to spend any time or effort on it.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Airshark79 on 18-12-2014, 13:12:23
So bashing heads for 40 minutes on one flag(All of your push designs) or having combat 5 times a round(all of your all gray designs) leads to productive and fulfilling experiences, rather than the lightweight gameplay the geometric designs offer?

Losing in your maps kicks you on the head for no reason. FH2 is not FHT. FH2 is pub gaming. The map design philosophy is toxic for pub gaming.

Tl;Dr change your mind to think gazala classic is more beneficial to fh2 than gazala we have now.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 18-12-2014, 13:12:27
Losing in your maps kicks you on the head for no reason.

Being too bad to win the map is not a reason?

Quote
FH2 is not FHT. FH2 is pub gaming. The map design philosophy is toxic for pub gaming.

I think you are getting things confused. Tournament maps typically have more open flags than stock FH2 maps, because tournament teams are able to concentrate player numbers regardless due to their more stringent organisation. Fewer flags (usually 5 or 4 in conquest layouts) are a feature of maps designed for public play, where the objective is to avoid "circle capping", a phenomenon much hated in the community.

edit: BTW 1942 Gazala also had only 4 flags.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LuckyOne on 18-12-2014, 14:12:07
^ Gazala iz a great map! The only thing wrong with it is the sneaky Germans backcapping Acroma with the scout plane instead of pushing around Knightsbridge from Sidi Muftah box (even though the end result is about the same, just with less blood for the Axis).

Otherwise it's quite good, offers plenty of flanking action in the South and some in the North and close combat infantry action in the boxes.

The only thing is that I would consider adding the Bir Hakeim flag back, as the servers have bigger player limits now. Maybe even make it a non-recappable push flag to bring back it's historic importance and make use of the southern end of the map more...

As I see it, the map is still a bit too small to represent the full scale of Rommel's pincer move but it works. (only the tickets were a bit screwed up in the past but I think it's fixed now)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Airshark79 on 18-12-2014, 14:12:41
Are you insane thinking you should make half of your playerbase feel bad after a session?

Closed and one dimensional layout is status-quo, and has no room for strategy. More flags lead to stretching of the front. FH2 dev team thinks(or more probably thought) that most battles had a defender and an attacker so one team HAD TO own everything at start. Here is a better alternative, why don't you give 3 flags to a team and 2 to other in an all gray layout instead of wasting your limited potential on trying to get push maps which once in every 3 games is a disaster?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 18-12-2014, 14:12:56
Many maps in the mod depict attackers vs defenders, as it was IRL.

Altho, I dont think this is a conversation for this thread in the first place. It calls for another Airshark vs everybody else thread.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Airshark79 on 18-12-2014, 14:12:25
He can make a thread if he wants. I don't have anything to say right now.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 18-12-2014, 15:12:16
Of course I don't want "half the player base" feel bad after a round, but I also don't think everybody is as much of a whiner as you. Of course it can be frustrating if a push map grinds to a halt, but that is in the nature of it. Also, that 1 in 3 statistic smells like something you pulled straight from your ass.
If you want to see what the community thinks about this, I would suggest reading the Operation Totalize feedback thread and all the whining about the factory being backcapped.
Attacking undefended flags way behind the front is not a sign of good strategy, it's just combat avoidance. The point of the game is to strategically overcome opposition, not to bypass it, hence all the push maps.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Airshark79 on 18-12-2014, 15:12:18
Who said totalize is a good map? Who said all all gray maps are great? Did you use up all the tools in your arsenal to make it work? Backcapping is an issue properly done maps can deal with, and not only flag layout or terrain. Oh here's one, remove spawns for axis at the Factory and  the same with artillery battery for allies. Here, your biggest dread is solved, and backcapping is a strategical option where the attackers have to commit to get meaningful results.

Seriously open a thread if you want to discuss any further. I don't want to clog up this thread.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 08-01-2015, 03:01:57
Bumpady bump bump...

So a map taking place
Quote
somewhere and somewhen on the Western Front
  is gonna be revealed on Sunday. There were a few interesting guesses in the announcement thread but this thread needs some love. I'm curious to see what everyone thinks and why 8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TASSER on 08-01-2015, 05:01:20
"Somewhere and somewhen" to me sounds like a new front and a new time period.

The only thing that comes to mind is that there have been French items in the changelog in past releases, so I'm kinda thinking an early war French map. Really not sure though.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 08-01-2015, 05:01:49
Have fun. 8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 08-01-2015, 07:01:43
I also just talked to Cpt. Bocquier on ModDb and he said that "things are livening up" for French Hope and there will be news soon. Was he meaning this maybe?  :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 08-01-2015, 14:01:41
Also note how the Eastern Front was the Western Front from Russian perspective...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 08-01-2015, 14:01:50
Nice im so curious now.I would like to see finish map and velichles 8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Tiny on 08-01-2015, 14:01:25
Bring it on!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 08-01-2015, 14:01:27
Also note how the Eastern Front was the Western Front from Russian perspective...

Oh now that's decieving.... But also exciting  :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Airshark79 on 08-01-2015, 15:01:43
Ahahah lol

I will eat my foot if it turns out to be siegfried. Best guess would be somewhere in east germany from the earlier screens from the thread. Berlin is a big possibility but are the statics really there?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 08-01-2015, 15:01:16
OK, who can tell me which tank this is a part of?

(http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i390/TheNissi/Unbenannt_zps1859d5a9.jpg)

All I can tell you is this tank will be in it, no doubt.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 08-01-2015, 17:01:05
OK, who can tell me which tank this is a part of?

(http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i390/TheNissi/Unbenannt_zps1859d5a9.jpg)

All I can tell you is this tank will be in it, no doubt.

Can you put bigger pic for this or where is it?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 08-01-2015, 17:01:22
We discussed this before, its obviously a bridge over water with a flagpole.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 08-01-2015, 18:01:07
I taught so but there was tank in tekst and i was what?But i saw railway over some kupola.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Airshark79 on 08-01-2015, 18:01:21
It's not a bridge but holy hell what is there to make of that picture
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kasztelan on 08-01-2015, 18:01:01
When it was posted the first time it was hinted that this is a part of an amphibious tank. So maybe it is from Sherman DD?? I have no idea :-\
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 08-01-2015, 21:01:50
... is gonna be revealed on Sunday. There were a few interesting guesses in the announcement thread but this thread needs some love. I'm curious to see what everyone thinks and why 8)

I think map is obviously the battle of Britain. Spitfires, Hurricanes, Lancasters dueling in the air with Messerschmitts, Junkers, etc. over British airspace. Base the map for the 100 player server with 50 planes on each side for an epic dogfight!


I know it's probably not this map but I can dream!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 08-01-2015, 22:01:55
... is gonna be revealed on Sunday. There were a few interesting guesses in the announcement thread but this thread needs some love. I'm curious to see what everyone thinks and why 8)

I think map is obviously the battle of Britain. Spitfires, Hurricanes, Lancasters dueling in the air with Messerschmitts, Junkers, etc. over British airspace. Base the map for the 100 player server with 50 planes on each side for an epic dogfight!

I would be 24-7 on Battle of britian if it would be the suprise.I just saw WaW23 campain Battle of britian video and it is so good!!!!!!There are stukas,ju 88 and even heinkel he17 with meshesmit 109 against spitfires and moskitos and battle was amaizing!The goal was to destory three or four factories and were some asome dogfigtings.

I know it's probably not this map but I can dream!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Krätzer on 11-01-2015, 01:01:57
Look out for the new easter egg kit after release...
(http://rs992.pbsrc.com/albums/af43/BGF-Kraetzer/FH%20Handheld/Gladius.gif~c100)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hjaldrgud on 11-01-2015, 02:01:33
that's awesome! Now make a Mad Jack Churchill kit with claymore, bagpipe and long bow!  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Godall on 11-01-2015, 23:01:38
Hahaha cool, crazi man ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TASSER on 12-01-2015, 02:01:32
Haha that's awesome Kratzer! Gladiator fights on Italian maps anyone?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 13-01-2015, 21:01:41
May we take a moment to appreciate this beautiful SOMUA model on Pegasus?

(http://cs624627.vk.me/v624627292/1563f/dETfvfSyVEc.jpg)

I'm now curious, after seeing the wheel textures, what the "French Hope" skin of this tank looked like.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 13-01-2015, 22:01:57
A lot like this:

(http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/france/somua_s35_camo2.png)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: RAnDOOm on 13-01-2015, 23:01:38
Having a Panhard178 would be very cool.

(http://media.moddb.com/cache/images/mods/1/9/8329/thumb_620x2000/53145.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 14-01-2015, 00:01:11
Having that would not only be cool but realistic, considering that when 21st Panzer Division had been re-established in France it was equipped exclusively with captured French AFV's and vehicles (with the exception of attached support units like AA and anti-tank battallions) and on D-Day was still in process of changing its tanks to Panzer III's and IV's (companies having not received far less German tanks than the division was supposed to have). Seeing any of the Beutepanzers on certain other maps featuring the 21st *cough*Lebisey*cough*Goodwood*cough* would also be greatly appreciated. (I'm not starting my usual rant that despite its name, Sturmgeschütz-Battallion 200 was equipped with Marder I and other Lorraine variants... whoops.)

Dreaming now of a captured H35 or H39 upgunned with PaK40 slugging it out with Shermans in FH2, please don't disturb.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 20-01-2015, 20:01:28
Dreaming now of a captured H35 or H39 upgunned with PaK40 slugging it out with Shermans in FH2, please don't disturb.

You mean like on Operation Goodwood? Or soon on Pegasus? We have the Geschützwagen that was used, it is ingame as Marder I.

Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Prx! on 21-01-2015, 11:01:19
Is there anyone out there working on these models? (I would if i could)
-T-26
-StuG III Ausf. B

Would be handy dandy for making a early eastfront map  ;D
(edit move to other thread)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Stubbfan on 21-01-2015, 13:01:02
We already have a T-26 model made by Sorken that he put on his site at some point.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 21-01-2015, 21:01:06
Yes, having the short barreled Stug would be awesome!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: CHRISTIEFRONTDRIVE on 22-01-2015, 07:01:28
One time I played FH1 Counterattack 1940 in drunk in single player on a lonely night as the French/British force and I took the Char B1 and tried to steamroll German armor, and me and the short-barreled StuG traded shots from a few hundred meters for over ten minutes before finally I managed to switch from the 75mm to the 47mm for the millionth time just as he was turning to face me and I had me a StuG-B-Q.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Prx! on 22-01-2015, 15:01:46
That's really interesting please tell me more.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Erwin on 22-01-2015, 16:01:05
Battle of Brody with 35 T26 and several BT7 vs German PZII and PZIII.  :'( ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Klimax on 24-01-2015, 21:01:40
Anyone here remembers the skulls on the finnish helmets from Fh.07? Would be nice to have them in FH2.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 24-01-2015, 21:01:44
Anyone here remembers the skulls on the finnish helmets from Fh.07? Would be nice to have them in FH2.

As long as I have anything to say about that, those will not become a reality.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Krätzer on 25-01-2015, 16:01:05
mhm
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 25-01-2015, 16:01:30
Boot experts needed over here!  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 25-01-2015, 17:01:35
That's not a boot, it's part of a bridge.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Josh094 on 25-01-2015, 17:01:58
That's not a boot, it's part of a bridge.

That is if it isn't part of a tank that's coming in the next release.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Eat Uranium on 25-01-2015, 17:01:43
Kraetzer, could you stop taking those creepy photographs of my feet please.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hjaldrgud on 25-01-2015, 18:01:39
I find the lack of photos of new churches.. disappointing disturbing

This is a church simulator, after all. Can't wait for some orthodox ones.

Edit: Thanks for correcting, Oberst ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst on 25-01-2015, 18:01:43
I find the lack of churches disturbing!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Alubat on 25-01-2015, 18:01:52
I find the lack of churches disturbing!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzGbMWEl0Ys
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 25-01-2015, 19:01:02
What about this?Junker Ju 57 having 2 supplies crates.It would be great on Crete so you can have small baze made from Squadleaders and supplies there.
Secon thing is recon plane have ammo box with parashute because they are too small to carie big supplies. This would become recon plane more usefull because a lot of guys dont want to drive it( and look for enemy) and then they dont get point for it (What i know is that when commander trows suplies and somebody use it then he gets point for it,am I right?).
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 25-01-2015, 23:01:14
And what would you get from this crate? Additional grenade? C'mon, you will die faster than you use all those three grenades...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 26-01-2015, 22:01:49
Other treat,thanks PanzerKnacker
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: PanzerKnacker on 27-01-2015, 06:01:19
edit: wrong thread
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 28-01-2015, 17:01:35
.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Krätzer on 28-01-2015, 18:01:25
mhmm
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 28-01-2015, 19:01:55
Oh Kraetzer stop teasing them ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 28-01-2015, 22:01:53
That looks so much like Purple Heart Lane.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Krätzer on 28-01-2015, 22:01:22
That looks so much like Purple Heart Lane.

What, it´s a new map.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 28-01-2015, 22:01:17
If you say so. Sure might be, but also might be a trick  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 28-01-2015, 23:01:57
After all, this is the conspiracies thread. ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 29-01-2015, 01:01:16
This thread gets more boring from one week to the next.....



 ::)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 29-01-2015, 04:01:37
This thread gets more boring from one week to the next.....



 ::)

Would you prefer more baseless conspiracies from players and less posting by the devs? I'm sure Kratzer will be more than happy to relinquish the last few screens. ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: ksl94 on 29-01-2015, 11:01:10
I assume that we may just have gotten German Fallschirmjäger uniforms!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 29-01-2015, 12:01:46
.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: RAnDOOm on 29-01-2015, 12:01:16
I assume that we may just have gotten German Fallschirmjäger uniforms!

That has to be it. They sure look like it.

 Nicely spotted sir.    ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: McCloskey on 29-01-2015, 18:01:48
didnt they say in the Pegasus dev stream that there were no FJ models? god dammit!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 29-01-2015, 19:01:05
Well wouldn't be the first time Krätzer models something because it was requested by the fans.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 29-01-2015, 21:01:50
LOL
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 08-02-2015, 18:02:17
If you increase sensitivity for airplane,will it turn faster?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kubador on 08-02-2015, 21:02:33
Not really, it has a fixed turning speed, if you overdo it you'll notice significant delay in control.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 11-02-2015, 22:02:40
I was looking over archives from FH2 and I i saw,in archive March 2010,M1935 Browing HP pistol with gunstock.As I see it is used by Allies tank drivers (Kanadian flag),so how can i found it with gunstock?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 11-02-2015, 22:02:21
Afaik its in the 'commando' kit. Any kit with a silenced sten and browning is the browning with the stock.

Btw this is a conspiracies thread. There's an FH2 questions thread in the archives where you can ask anything.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 11-02-2015, 22:02:29
You can find the Browning HP with stock in Port en Bessin and Villers Bocage (as a pickup kit in one the tents). :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 22-02-2015, 10:02:40
Did the developers make a Panhard 178 for the French Hope thing?
It would be cool to see a railway operated version captured by the Germans when the Eastern Front comes out. I heard they were used as railway security against partisans.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 22-02-2015, 12:02:08
I would like to make more use of trains,they are slow and when i use it on Keren it needed me 5 min to come from baze ital. to first flag.I had my squad but there is only 3 places.I wish it has wagon
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kasztelan on 22-02-2015, 13:02:14
Will we see german version of PPSz 41 chambered for 9x19 mm with MP40 mags? called MP41(r) iirc
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 22-02-2015, 14:02:42
That would be awesome to implement, but only after we get an initial release out the door with all the main soviet weapons needed. Not far off now I'd say 8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 03-03-2015, 00:03:13
(http://i.imgur.com/6RtOutb.png)

 ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Josh094 on 03-03-2015, 01:03:09
That's a part of a tank right?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst on 03-03-2015, 08:03:58
That's something to cross a channel.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Alubat on 09-03-2015, 22:03:06
[762]RANKED #1 FH2 v2.49 [100p]   Pegasus   82  100

Eastern Front will be v2.50  :) ??   

Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Airshark79 on 09-03-2015, 22:03:32
Wait what? What's happening?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 09-03-2015, 22:03:16
Misguided attempt at a joke I guess?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 09-03-2015, 22:03:19
He might just be just day dreaming of what's to come.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Alubat on 10-03-2015, 16:03:43
Forgotten Hope = When Dreams come Thru
Hopefully Pegasus will soon be released, cant wait no more  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 16-03-2015, 00:03:56
Interestingly, I just built a beta patch and the number now officially reached Forgotten Hope 3.0.004. SO yes, FH3 confirmed.
Major version number changed from 2 to 3 ==> Eastern Front RC1 when?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: hitm4k3r on 16-03-2015, 12:03:07
Soon™  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LuckyOne on 16-03-2015, 17:03:53
Interestingly, I just built a beta patch and the number now officially reached Forgotten Hope 3.0.004. SO yes, FH3 confirmed.
Major version number changed from 2 to 3 ==> Eastern Front RC1 when?

Well, seeing that there are a few crucial models still missing from the weapons and vehicles page, you may want to hold your horses on that one...

For example: stationary arty for USSR (I assume we will get some, right?), AA guns, player models, russian knives, smoke grenades...

EDIT: I forgot revolvers! :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 16-03-2015, 17:03:46
News updates don't tell you what has been made, only what Krätzer decided to render ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LuckyOne on 16-03-2015, 17:03:23
News updates don't tell you what has been made, only what Krätzer decided to render ;)

True, but there's still gonna be a news update on those (at least mentioning them) before the actual new release, right?  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 16-03-2015, 20:03:09
For example: stationary arty for USSR (I assume we will get some, right?)
Nah, the importance of Soviet arty is a myth.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 16-03-2015, 20:03:03
Arty wasnt used much in the EF.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 16-03-2015, 22:03:16
Arty wasnt used much in the EF.

 Put the drugs down flipper. You are obviously Bekifft.

 Stalin's Organ was constantly ficken the Jerries all the way back to Berlin.


 ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 16-03-2015, 22:03:31
No they werent. Stop talking shit.

They were hardly ever used.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 17-03-2015, 03:03:52
No they werent. Stop talking shit.

They were hardly ever used.

 Hey Flip, read this, then i expect an apology.

http://militaryhistorynow.com/2014/10/10/stalins-organ-10-things-you-didnt-know-about-russias-katyusha-rocket/

Dont forget to read the second paragraph....grab your glasses if you must.

 Im waiting......

 :-*
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 17-03-2015, 10:03:28
Like you should believe whatever they say in the internet. That's nothing but russian propaganda, just like T-34's rolling out from factory straight into combat and the attempt of using dogs as an AT-measure.

Hahahaha!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LuckyOne on 17-03-2015, 11:03:51
^ Of course, we can be assured that Flippy, being Finnish, is completely unbiased when it comes to Russians.  I mean it's not like the Russians took a bunch of Finnish lands or anything...  ::)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 17-03-2015, 11:03:02
They only took back what was rightfully theirs to begin with. No extras. No lands were taken.

(http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/images/07-minister.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 17-03-2015, 12:03:46
I think flippy just had a sargasm and splattered all over this thread.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 17-03-2015, 14:03:08
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/38/d6/70/38d670dec17e65f08c6f993d63be6325.jpg)


 ::)

Flipster, you got me......
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 17-03-2015, 15:03:40
Easy peasy lemon squeezy!


To give you all something to think about, I have been working on a map that has propably the highest count of craters of all FH2 maps. Maybe even more than all other FH2 maps combined.

I think I know something about russian artillery.

 8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 17-03-2015, 15:03:57
Flipster, you got me......
LOL, that took a while ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 17-03-2015, 19:03:46
To give you all something to think about, I have been working on a map that has propably the highest count of craters of all FH2 maps. Maybe even more than all other FH2 maps combined.
nazi moon base map confirmed
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LuckyOne on 17-03-2015, 19:03:57
To give you all something to think about, I have been working on a map that has propably the highest count of craters of all FH2 maps. Maybe even more than all other FH2 maps combined.
nazi moon base map confirmed

Zero-g fighting? Aww yeah, it will be like the FPS module of Star Citizen, just with WWII tech!  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 17-03-2015, 20:03:35
We actually have a low gravity mode on the test server, it's quite fun.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Korsakov829 on 17-03-2015, 20:03:55
Seelow, most likely.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 17-03-2015, 20:03:13
Nah that one has way fewer craters.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MaJ.P.Bouras on 17-03-2015, 20:03:33
Kursk?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 17-03-2015, 20:03:32
We actually have a low gravity mode on the test server, it's quite fun.
Highly appropriate considering BF2/FH2 already has lunar physics.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 17-03-2015, 21:03:14
Kursk?
are you really expecting a map named Kursk in FH2?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: 0utlaw on 17-03-2015, 21:03:00
Operation Citadel?

Battle of Prokhorovka?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 17-03-2015, 21:03:29
I guess you guys just have to wait and see...  :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TheSpectre on 17-03-2015, 22:03:06
seelow heights for sure ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 17-03-2015, 22:03:23
Nope.  :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TheSpectre on 17-03-2015, 22:03:29
well, since you are experienced with craters now, you could do seelow heights afterwards :D

god i am excited ^^
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 17-03-2015, 22:03:27
Im afraid Seelow doesnt interest me enough, I have other plans thought.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TheSpectre on 17-03-2015, 22:03:13
fair enough  ^^

i suppose there will be enough maps where you can experience the terror of a large scale soviet attack coming at you:D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 17-03-2015, 22:03:59
I think this was the same map where it had Darth Vader overlooking something.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Korsakov829 on 18-03-2015, 01:03:27
Probably is Seelow. Or it could be Crimea. Arad, Dukla, Lenino, Prokhorovka, Ilomantsi, Kuuterselka, Zielona Gora, Puffendorf, Kharkov...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: ksl94 on 18-03-2015, 03:03:27
May I ask if it is a Western Front or Eastern front map?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 18-03-2015, 07:03:04
Probably is Seelow. Or it could be Crimea. Arad, Dukla, Lenino, Prokhorovka, Ilomantsi, Kuuterselka, Zielona Gora, Puffendorf, Kharkov...

None of the above. Especially since Arad was made by shitmaker and Dukla by Ts4, both of which were already in a news update...

Quote
May I ask if it is a Western Front or Eastern front map?

Yes, yes it is.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: th_battleaxe on 18-03-2015, 10:03:34
Does it have something to do with Operation Bagration? Or might it be Cherkassy?

@Korsakov: Wasn't Kuuterselka scrapped?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 18-03-2015, 13:03:24
As much as I'd like to keep answering the questions to this guessing game but I think all the fun and surprise would burn out if you guys did find out what I was upto. Besides, remember that I am only a tester, that means that my map might never end up in a release. It will get beta tested fo' sho' but wether the devs want to include it is not within my influence.

Maybe I'll post a snippet after I know more.  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Stubbfan on 18-03-2015, 14:03:17
I think i know what it is!!!

A remake of Karelia!  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 18-03-2015, 14:03:40
You arent allowed to guess!  :o
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 18-03-2015, 14:03:49
@Korsakov: Wasn't Kuuterselka scrapped?

Now there's conspiracies for you. ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 18-03-2015, 16:03:05
Forget Russia! I wanna hear how excited everyone is to play with dead sticks!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: RAnDOOm on 18-03-2015, 21:03:46
We actually have a low gravity mode on the test server, it's quite fun.
To give you all something to think about, I have been working on a map that has propably the highest count of craters of all FH2 maps. Maybe even more than all other FH2 maps combined.
1+1 =
Spoiler
http://science.taskermilward.org.uk/mod1/Year%204/Yr4%20img/moon-crater_lg.jpg
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TheSpectre on 18-03-2015, 21:03:12
We actually have a low gravity mode on the test server, it's quite fun.
To give you all something to think about, I have been working on a map that has propably the highest count of craters of all FH2 maps. Maybe even more than all other FH2 maps combined.
1+1 =
Spoiler
http://science.taskermilward.org.uk/mod1/Year%204/Yr4%20img/moon-crater_lg.jpg
mind = blown

that has to be it ! ^^
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Eat Uranium on 19-03-2015, 21:03:17
Probably is Seelow. Or it could be Crimea. Arad, Dukla, Lenino, Prokhorovka, Ilomantsi, Kuuterselka, Zielona Gora, Puffendorf, Kharkov...
Of these 11 maps: 2 are shown, 1 is a test map and 1 has been dropped.  The rest, well, that would be telling...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 21-03-2015, 08:03:56
So Prokhorovka is a test map? ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 21-03-2015, 18:03:15
Finnish spawn menu:

(http://i.imgur.com/oDBaA6s.png)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 21-03-2015, 20:03:00
That is exciting! Will there be a "longer" rifle for the rifleman kit or will it remain same as the other kits with carbines?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 21-03-2015, 20:03:21
No perkele. That looks sweet, cannot wait!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kasztelan on 21-03-2015, 20:03:28
That is exciting! Will there be a "longer" rifle for the rifleman kit or will it remain same as the other kits with carbines?

Well, actually it's a rifle not carbine...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 21-03-2015, 21:03:46
Panssarintorjuntamies does not have a faust, do we get a birch log & Molotov cocktails instead?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 21-03-2015, 21:03:29
Panssarintorjuntamies does not have a faust, do we get a birch log & Molotov cocktails instead?

No, since this is 1944. If it was Winter War, then yes. Im afraid you'll have to use your vulgar language to tip the tanks over.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 23-03-2015, 07:03:00
Nice!Also I see submashine will be with both ammo, 31 and 76 bullets.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 23-03-2015, 07:03:48
Nice!Also I see submashine will be with both ammo, 31 and 76 bullets.

It's a 50 round coffin mag actually, not the 30 round stick mag. Stick mags came to use post-war.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: radiosmersh on 23-03-2015, 09:03:16
Will we see Lahti-Saloranta as a pick up kit on this map or on another?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst on 23-03-2015, 10:03:08
If you loom closely on the last screenshot, it can already be seen.

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/news/150320/sammatus_13.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 24-03-2015, 00:03:44
Nice new tree models!   8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hjaldrgud on 24-03-2015, 00:03:29
God dammit!

I though I was le 1337 haxXx0r, but the security measures are too stronk!

(http://i.imgur.com/dkgxJkX.png)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Alubat on 24-03-2015, 00:03:34
So many nice details
Any hope for new nature background sounds like tree. bird, wind sound ?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 24-03-2015, 03:03:09
God dammit!

I though I was le 1337 haxXx0r, but the security measures are too stronk!

(http://i.imgur.com/dkgxJkX.png)

We have a secret forum for internal stuff anyway. ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: hitm4k3r on 24-03-2015, 10:03:57
So many nice details
Any hope for new nature background sounds like tree. bird, wind sound ?

Alot of this stuff is allready in the mod so there is no real gain to create them new. It takes alot of time to implement it so not every map uses those features to the same extent. But you will hear and see the above mentioned stuff in the upcoming maps.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 29-03-2015, 22:03:05
When Stens have retarded babies:

(http://i.imgur.com/jgqOKyl.png)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kasztelan on 29-03-2015, 22:03:38
WOW!! Diegtiariow DT? So it will also be handheld version?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kubador on 29-03-2015, 23:03:24
You can see all russian vehicles on the horizon.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Michael Z Freeman on 30-03-2015, 00:03:46
The FH firing range ? I have to remember that FH weapons ate tested so exactly.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 31-03-2015, 00:03:17
You can see all russian vehicles on the horizon.

Spoiler
(http://i.imgur.com/H5zIroD.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 31-03-2015, 03:03:17
 Thats funny matt....



 ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: RAnDOOm on 31-03-2015, 17:03:48
Nice one Matthew_Baker   ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TheSpectre on 31-03-2015, 18:03:24
i had to laugh really loud!
well played, sir ! ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MaxP on 04-04-2015, 14:04:26
No they werent. Stop talking shit.
They were hardly ever used.
Just read Otto Carius' book, i.e.
About "russian propaganda" and "hardly ever used artillery"
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 04-04-2015, 15:04:43
No they werent. Stop talking shit.
They were hardly ever used.
Just read Otto Carius' book, i.e.
About "russian propaganda" and "hardly ever used artillery"

Jesus Christ he was being sarcastic you numbskulls... he even wrote so.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 04-04-2015, 15:04:21
Tigers In The Mud, great book. Loved it.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MaxP on 04-04-2015, 15:04:39
Quote
Jesus Christ he was being sarcastic you numbskulls... he even wrote so.
Okay, my bad ))
I think now I know something about sarcasm ))
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 07-04-2015, 20:04:03
Any informations when and where will this be used? ;D ;D
(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/imagesfh2/vehicles/Panzerj%C3%A4ger%20Tiger%20(P)%20Ferdinand_1/big.jpg)

Especially this,I hope it will have explosions with higher damage
(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/imagesfh2/vehicles/15%20cm%20sIG%2033/big.jpg)

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/imagesfh2/vehicles/M36B1%20Tank%20Destroyer%20Jackson_3/small.gif)
   M36B1 Tank Destroyer "Jackson"   
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 07-04-2015, 20:04:08
The m36b1 will be on Meuse River. The Ferdinand is on an unannounced Eastern Front map. The 15cm gun: dunno, kind of forgot about it.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 07-04-2015, 22:04:49
That 15cm was used throughout the war, probably more often early on. It could fit on almost any map afaik.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 07-04-2015, 22:04:29
 I am still waiting to see some USA mobile arty.

 Stop giving Germany all the cool toys.........
 >:(


pleeeeaase.......

 ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TheSpectre on 07-04-2015, 22:04:11
I am still waiting to see some USA mobile arty.

 Stop giving Germany all the cool toys.........
 >:(


pleeeeaase.......

 ;)
you mean something like a priest? ya that would be cool.

gimme tigers fighting some IS-2 and im happy :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 08-04-2015, 22:04:59
.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TheSpectre on 08-04-2015, 22:04:11
The Ferdinand is on an unannounced Eastern Front map.

Humm, these Ferdinands have Kursk camouflage and tactical numbers: 501 was lost in Kursk and 612 also fought there, both belonging to the s.PJA. 654 (612 was later later transferred to 653).
and i think they had an average 10:1 K/D ratio there...and the 1 death probably was always when infantry reached them :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 09-04-2015, 07:04:09
That's true, however the Ferdies did a lot better during the defensive fighting at Orel. During the period of 5-27 July '43, schweres Panzerjäger-Regiment 656 knocked out 502 Soviet tanks and destroyed more than 200 antitank weapons and 100 field pieces   8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 10-04-2015, 00:04:45
I just hope that 15 cm will be on some map 8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 10-04-2015, 03:04:13
Could be. ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 10-04-2015, 09:04:00
http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/archives.php?selectedmonth=4&selectedyear=2011
2011-4-1 archives
(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/news/110401/fhsp_01.jpg)
(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/news/110401/fhsp_02.jpg)
What?FH2 singleplayer campain? Reality or 1st april joke ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 10-04-2015, 16:04:51
Never believe anything posted on April 1st :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 10-04-2015, 20:04:07
Never believe anything posted on April 1st :P
But it looks nice 8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 10-04-2015, 20:04:44
The m36b1 will be on Meuse River. The Ferdinand is on an unannounced Eastern Front map. The 15cm gun: dunno, kind of forgot about it.
"...the Ferdinand is on unannounced map..." So please announce it ;D 8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Alubat on 10-04-2015, 21:04:24
Is the upcoming leuchtpistole M34 to be found in pegasus night edition or will it be found in a night version of a eastern front map ??
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 10-04-2015, 21:04:04
It will be on the overhauled version of Hyacinth.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 11-04-2015, 00:04:38
"...the Ferdinand is on unannounced map..." So please announce it ;D 8)

It's kind of hard, since the map is not complete yet...


Though I have to say it's one of *his* best. ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 11-04-2015, 18:04:54
Battle of Orel?  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 12-04-2015, 00:04:39
Lets say EF is finished in 201... and then,will you retire mod and stay on cheking maps or maybe try french or hungarian hope finish? ( just curious)  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 12-04-2015, 03:04:33
Alright, place your bets. Which one of these events will happen first?
-Commercial spaceflight to Moon is a reality
-Fusion power becomes commercially viable
-Gurm actually completes A Song of Ice and Fire
-The cows come home
-Duke Nukem Begins is released
-The pigs will fly
-Half-Life 3 is released
-A certain fallen angel with horns and hooves is seen driving a Zamboni
-Steam Engine (formerly Steambox) is released
-Heat death of the universe
-Best Korea will become a democracy
-MPAA censorship will be based on facts instead of moral panic and outright protectionism
-FH2 Eastern Front is released
-Copyright legislation becomes reasonable
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TheSpectre on 12-04-2015, 03:04:43
Alright, place your bets. Which one of these events will happen first?
-Commercial spaceflight to Moon is a reality
-Fusion power becomes commercially viable
-Gurm actually completes A Song of Ice and Fire
-The cows come home
-Duke Nukem Begins is released
-The pigs will fly
-Half-Life 3 is released
-A certain fallen angel with horns and hooves is seen driving a Zamboni
-Steam Engine (formerly Steambox) is released
-Heat death of the universe
-Best Korea will become a democracy
-MPAA censorship will be based on facts instead of moral panic and outright protectionism
-FH2 Eastern Front is released
-Copyright legislation becomes reasonable
i have faith and go with the eastern front! :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 12-04-2015, 11:04:38
Haa, I almost laughed. It was borderline humour.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Chad1992 on 12-04-2015, 17:04:40
cows come home
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 12-04-2015, 18:04:51
  I just realized the last large update was about 4 years ago..........

 The EF is coming eventually.........sometime............in the not too distant future...........


.....when Flippy explains the origins of his name without having a sargasm!


 ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 12-04-2015, 18:04:08
.....when Flippy explains the origins of his name without having a sargasm!


You sure have a crush on me. Cant go without drawing me into whatever the subject happens to be. I am flattered but I must reject your affection.

My nickname? You really want to know about it or are you just being super cute?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 12-04-2015, 19:04:02
  I just realized the last large update was about 4 years ago..........
Isn't it because of FH2 launcher which makes it easier to release smaller patches more often instead of large ones once in few years?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst on 12-04-2015, 19:04:45
Launcher is only here since last years gamespy shutdown on 31st may, iirc.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 12-04-2015, 19:04:40
A) that depends on your definition of major. 2.48 was major imo

B) I'm gonna put all my chips on East Front. ;) without hesitation
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 12-04-2015, 20:04:46
.....when Flippy explains the origins of his name without having a sargasm!


You sure have a crush on me. Cant go without drawing me into whatever the subject happens to be. I am flattered but I must reject your affection.

My nickname? You really want to know about it or are you just being super cute?

 Well, yes. You got me. I am having a bromance with you flipper, which appears now to be one sided.  :'(


and since you are also my favorite smart ass Global Moderator these days.........

Now, about the origins of "Flippy Warbear" if you will sir.


 Im sure others will be riveted by your story.

 :-*
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 12-04-2015, 20:04:30
Im a heartbreaker, I know.  :-X

Some things shall remain as secrets.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Chad1992 on 12-04-2015, 22:04:48
(http://i.giphy.com/XQvhpuryrPGnK.gif)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 16-04-2015, 20:04:42
Is value of computer falling down?For how much could I sold my computer-2.1 Ghz AMD, 2 gig of RAM , 512Mb Grafic card?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 16-04-2015, 21:04:09
Is value of computer falling down?For how much could I sold my computer-2.1 Ghz AMD, 2 gig of RAM , 512Mb Grafic card?

....

wat

I'm just gonna leak something.

(http://i.imgur.com/EMW8ddx.png)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: PoliorcetE on 16-04-2015, 21:04:03
what map it is ?

just can wait......
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 16-04-2015, 22:04:26
Battle of the Seelow Heights?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: K.Cower on 16-04-2015, 22:04:21
what map it is ?

just can wait......

Let me guess: 65km to Berlin, maybe battle of the Seelow Heights?

 :(  oh, I'm late
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 16-04-2015, 22:04:11
what map it is ?

just can wait......

Let me guess: 65km to Berlin, maybe battle of the Seelow Heights?

 :(  oh, I'm late
Dont hope.He probably only made that sign and now wants to trol us 8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 17-04-2015, 09:04:12
Ts4EVER......

 the guy everyone wants to slap, then hug.......... all at the same time!!


 ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Klimax on 17-04-2015, 14:04:23
65km to Berlin probably mean 65 days to the release or....
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 17-04-2015, 19:04:45
65km to Berlin probably mean 65 days to the release or....
;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Erwin on 18-04-2015, 08:04:03
65km to Berlin probably mean 65 days to the release or....

It's probably 65 months...  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 18-04-2015, 08:04:46
65km to Berlin probably mean 65 days to the release or....

It's probably 65 months...  ;)
Yes
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Alubat on 18-04-2015, 17:04:42
Dont go higher than 65 celcius on cpu if you want a Eastern Front game experience like buttermilk
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 01-05-2015, 16:05:55
It's May day! Anything you want leaked?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: RAnDOOm on 01-05-2015, 16:05:53
It's May day! Anything you want leaked?

Are the plane/tank distant sounds going to be corrected ?

Nowadays i can hear a plane all over the map on every map they are on, its very annoying....  and also can hear a tank 4 grids distance.

Any plans to fix that, specially the plane sounds ?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 01-05-2015, 16:05:57
AFAIK there are plans to fix that but we currently have no active official sound developer. There is one person in the team who has recently started to play with sounds tho and his goal is to standardise all distant sounds for land and air vehicles. The problem is, that it is an enormous task because from codding point of view all those sounds are huge mess, not to mention that volumes of sound files varies a lot as they're from many different sources. Hopefully we will see it fixed in future releases  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 01-05-2015, 17:05:40
LOL that is the best you can think of?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: RAnDOOm on 01-05-2015, 17:05:13
Yes, that for me would be the best fix possible for the game.

I would prefer that over a brand new map to be honest.

In my opinion, i would make that a priority. I rarely play in the public servers just because of those annoying insane loud plane noises.

Its a total game breaker for me, and i know at least a few other loyal FH players that feel the same way.

Regards
- RAnDOOm -
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 01-05-2015, 17:05:09
It's May day! Anything you want leaked?

 Nah, at this point, just dont even bother.

I mean since there are so many issues with development (real life or lack of) and most of the pubic lives in an ignorance bubble on all things FH2.



Even Castles made of sand, fall into the sea, eventually.

JH
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Airshark79 on 01-05-2015, 17:05:31
Ah random, always bitching about non-issues.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Korsakov829 on 01-05-2015, 18:05:40
It's May day! Anything you want leaked?

 Nah, at this point, just dont even bother.

I mean since there are so many issues with development (real life or lack of) and most of the pubic lives in an ignorance bubble on all things FH2.



Even Castles made of sand, fall into the sea, eventually.

JH

I sure wouldn't tell you anything being that you've been an asshole over the past several months.

...I swear people have no damn appreciation or understanding of the work that developers go through, it's a very small group who invest their time and do the best they can. You want a new weapon? Great, do it yourself it will probably take a hundred hours of modelling, texturing, animating, and coding. Of the few EF maps that are done they have been worked on for months and some over a year, again by very few people, sometimes only one, everything else is just an outline. Jan has even just said that they've no dedicated person developing sounds, just to work on the distant sounds alone somebody is going to have to put aside whatever it is they're doing to fix that, which could take a month or longer.

So yes the public is left in the dark because they wouldn't understand or care about the actual work that is done. If you really wanted to know what's going on then you need to go a step further rather than hanging around here, there's so much that has been revealed and easily forgotten about.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LuckyOne on 01-05-2015, 18:05:51
^ Well it's hard to have appreciation when the devs are so secretive and usually just show us the cake when it's done but rarely talk about the process of baking it (although I enjoyed the few dev blogs that came out recently). But I also understand that writing about modding takes valuable time from actually doing any modding.

Now, I do have some idea about the amount of hard work every dev puts in due to my RL background, but I'm sure there are a few clueless people in the community that believe all the content is made using voodoo magic and unicorn tears.  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 01-05-2015, 19:05:59
I offer to leak something and all you bitch about is the devs being secretive...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kalkalash on 01-05-2015, 19:05:28
Can you leak us a sex tape?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hjaldrgud on 01-05-2015, 19:05:42
view from inside a soviet tank like gun sights.
Maybe even a small clip of firing the tank?  :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: tempest on 01-05-2015, 19:05:33
I offer to leak something and all you bitch about is the devs being secretive...

Russian player model?  Finnish player model?  A shot from an unreleased map?  Gameplay shot from the new Finnish map?  Render of an Eastern front city building?  :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: gavrant on 01-05-2015, 20:05:40
Are the plane/tank distant sounds going to be corrected ?

Nowadays i can hear a plane all over the map on every map they are on, its very annoying....  and also can hear a tank 4 grids distance.

Any plans to fix that, specially the plane sounds ?

The weirdest thing in this question is that you, RAnDOOm, have an active betatester account on the internal forum and visit it almost every day.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 01-05-2015, 20:05:09
Give us minimap of EF map with planes
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 01-05-2015, 20:05:56
Not released yet ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: ksl94 on 01-05-2015, 20:05:15
I would like to see the apparent re-texturing of the player models mentioned in the modding section. The British ones  :D .

As for the sounds, they are good and realistic the way they are. You have obviously never experienced the noise of a Spitfire as it comes in to land or strafes a nearby position. Oh, by the way, did you ever hear an actual tank from that era pass by? The Allied tanks could easily be heard from over a mile away, but I do have to admit that the German ones were much less noisy.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 01-05-2015, 20:05:18
What you're saying is very true and for a long time I was using this argument to fight against moaning about engines being too loud (especially when it comes to planes), but on the other hand, sometimes devs have to compromise the realism for gameplay and gameplay wise it would be better to make a lot of the sounds we have in game much less loud to avoid annoyance and confusion, a lot of battlefield aspects in FH2 is scaled down already and that's what should be done with sounds as well.

When it comes to player models, I can think of two new models which could be easily shown to the public and a re-textured one which will appear on the one of the very old maps after the next release. I think that would an interesting thing for the community, but I'm not a dev to decide what will be shown in the news posts  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 01-05-2015, 21:05:22
I won't show any player models, since those "big ticket" items are something for a proper news update. Also I have no recording programs, so only pics.

Anyway, everything shown is WIP, subject to change and subject to deletion if it doesn't get finished in time.

view from inside a soviet tank like gun sights.

(http://i.imgur.com/fzXJyvP.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/FLY9yA4.png)

Quote
A shot from an unreleased map? Render of an Eastern front city building?

(http://i.imgur.com/wiU0QMT.png)

Quote
Give us minimap of EF map with planes

This is especially WIP.

(http://i.imgur.com/xJJ0kIm.png)

Okay, that concludes our May Day special. As you can see, nice things come to those who are nice.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 01-05-2015, 21:05:57
Thank you Ts4EVER 8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 01-05-2015, 23:05:25
Interesting...  :)

May I ask, how many Finnish maps are being made? (excluding Sammatus/Kuuterselka)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 01-05-2015, 23:05:12
(excluding Sammatus/Kuuterselka)

There is no Kuuterselkä anymore.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 01-05-2015, 23:05:51
.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Godall on 02-05-2015, 00:05:26
(https://cs7055.vk.me/c621818/v621818292/269fb/UcgokWlkdpQ.jpg)

No comments!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Wilhelm on 02-05-2015, 00:05:55
I offer to leak something and all you bitch about is the devs being secretive...

 ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TASSER on 02-05-2015, 01:05:10
Awesome... Awesome... AWESOME stuff!!!

And thank you to the guys who made actual requests!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: tempest on 02-05-2015, 08:05:14
I won't show any player models, since those "big ticket" items are something for a proper news update. Also I have no recording programs, so only pics.

Thanks!  I didn't expect player models, but it doesn't hurt to ask :)  The city map looks cool, from the inside of that one building... heheh
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: ksl94 on 02-05-2015, 10:05:45
So, when will we get that news update?  ;D I want my British player models.  :-*
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 02-05-2015, 10:05:43
So, when will we get that news update?  ;D I want my British player models.  :-*
which player models are you talking about?  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 02-05-2015, 10:05:01
Those are nice treats  :D That building interior looks like the basement floor of the building the new developer made.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: ksl94 on 02-05-2015, 10:05:31
Ah, I meant the new textures. All this excitement makes me get carried away!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 02-05-2015, 10:05:54
Are you sure it is a british player model?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LuckyOne on 02-05-2015, 14:05:13
So Seelow Heights is real? And I thought it was a lie all the time and you guys were just trolling us with that map name...  ;D

Btw will we see T34 variants with applique armor or with standoff "bedspring" armor?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: ksl94 on 02-05-2015, 14:05:16
Are you sure it is a british player model?

Well, it better be!  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 02-05-2015, 16:05:26
So Seelow Heights is real?

Yeah, I'm trying to finish it for a while now, but Pegasus came in the way. Seelow is generally a pain in the ass, especially performance, because it has planes and long sight lines + a city part.
No bedspring armor is planned atm but there are lots of other unique very late war assets for it.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kasztelan on 02-05-2015, 16:05:48

Well, it better be!  ;D

I think it's Gebirgsjaeger (for Crete and Sfakia). Or maybe Fallschirmjaeger model (for Crete and Normandy).
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 02-05-2015, 21:05:30
there are lots of other unique very late war assets for it.

IR equipment? Pak 44? 8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 02-05-2015, 22:05:37
Did you noticed this on Ts4EVERs EF pictures:
On one of tanks aiming sistems on the bottom it says T34/85 and on other it says T34/76 so is that T34 model 1943 or some other tank?
(http://i.imgur.com/FLY9yA4.png)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hjaldrgud on 02-05-2015, 22:05:49
Kinda expected. An Eastern Front without the standard T-34/76 would be like the Western Front without M1 Garands, or a girl without boobs, or a pizza without meat. It works, but something is wrong.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Eat Uranium on 02-05-2015, 23:05:08
Did you noticed this on Ts4EVERs EF pictures:
On one of tanks aiming sistems on the bottom it says T34/85 and on other it says T34/76 so is that T34 model 1943 or some other tank?
Yes, in this case T-34/76 refers to the T-34 model of 1943.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Alubat on 03-05-2015, 21:05:05
Waiting for EF seems like the longest x-mas ever :-)

Found my way to the minimap of pegasus in
http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?topic=20211.msg337804#msg337804

How does 16 or 32 player map layout of pegasus look like ? are both night maps ?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 04-05-2015, 12:05:31
Why in FH2 vehliche explodes when you leave it? It started to iritate me especialy when Im spoting and I look at my car and its burning just to explode.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 04-05-2015, 13:05:52
Why in FH2 vehliche explodes when you leave it? It started to iritate me especialy when Im spoting and I look at my car and its burning just to explode.
do you know the purpose of conspiracies thread?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst on 04-05-2015, 13:05:15
Sounds like a conspiracy  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hjaldrgud on 04-05-2015, 15:05:03
Because others might need that car more than you. dont hold on to vehicles when you're not using them.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Airshark79 on 04-05-2015, 16:05:02
Well he said he's actually using them. Better than to leave it in a ditch somewhere I guess.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Alubat on 04-05-2015, 17:05:17
Ar least you can jump or swim into water and leave your pc without drowning :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 04-05-2015, 18:05:31
Well, "time to live" for vehicles should be set - without this soon main base would become very empty. However, I agree that it could be a bit higher than standard values or total amount of transport vehicles should be higher, because now, considering playing on 100 players server, some maps total amount of transport vehicles is simply laughable - St. Lo, Lebisey, etc....
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst on 04-05-2015, 19:05:55
Well, "time to live" for vehicles should be set - without this soon main base would become very empty. However, I agree that it could be a bit higher than standard values or total amount of transport vehicles should be higher, because now, considering playing on 100 players server, some maps total amount of transport vehicles is simply laughable - St. Lo, Lebisey, etc....

So is walking in Lebisey or St. Lo. Transports are not excatly needed on both maps.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 04-05-2015, 20:05:07
Well, "time to live" for vehicles should be set - without this soon main base would become very empty. However, I agree that it could be a bit higher than standard values or total amount of transport vehicles should be higher, because now, considering playing on 100 players server, some maps total amount of transport vehicles is simply laughable - St. Lo, Lebisey, etc....

So is walking in Lebisey or St. Lo. Transports are not excatly needed on both maps.

Yeah, walk 5 mins just to get shot by camping tank... Sure, enjoy it very much...  ::)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 07-05-2015, 23:05:31
I think update is very soon ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LazMan12 on 09-05-2015, 19:05:41
Today in Russia they celebrate Victory Day, so I was expecting some new Soviet stuff revealed  ::)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 09-05-2015, 20:05:39
Today in Russia they celebrate Victory Day, so I was expecting some new Soviet stuff revealed  ::)
Lol,yes 8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 09-05-2015, 20:05:51
Today in Russia they celebrate Victory Day, so I was expecting some new Soviet stuff revealed  ::)
http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?topic=14169.msg337892#msg337892
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 12-05-2015, 17:05:44
Forum is dead for 5-6 days.............but thats maybe silence before the storm  8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 12-05-2015, 17:05:33
Forum is dead for 5-6 days.............but thats maybe silence before the storm  8)
it is not, last answer only in this topic was 3 days ago
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 12-05-2015, 18:05:25
Forum is dead for 5-6 days.............but thats maybe silence before the storm  8)

 The only storm coming is a patch with bug fixes & 1 map.

 :-*
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 12-05-2015, 18:05:26
And the UE with Wurfgerät, the Somua S35, the M36B1 tank destroyer, the Sten MKV, British Paratrooper models, lots of reworked and rebalanced maps, new 3p animations for static weapons and new statics for custom mappers, including new vegitation to make proper wheat fields. But yeah, focus on the negatives.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 12-05-2015, 19:05:34
Not to mention that map comes with 3 layers. Get ready for night assaults WAW Thursdays 8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 12-05-2015, 19:05:03
I said storm, and Im happy ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LuckyOne on 12-05-2015, 21:05:17
new vegitation to make proper wheat fields

Wait, did you say WHEAT FIELDS? SCREW THE MAP THIS UPDATE WILL BE EPIC JUST BECAUSE OF THIS! OHMAGAAWD CAN'T WAIT.

 ;D

EDIT: also post #2500 woo (that went fast... I need a life)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Alubat on 12-05-2015, 21:05:52
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheat_Fields_%28Van_Gogh_series%29#/media/File:Farmhouses_in_a_Wheat_Field.jpg

Hope it will soon be summer  :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 12-05-2015, 22:05:07
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Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 12-05-2015, 22:05:09
What map would it be put on?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 12-05-2015, 22:05:54
On Purple Heart Lane, obviously.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hauggy on 12-05-2015, 22:05:40
lol that's the thing none of the existing ones are appropriate xD

Why not making one map about the Italian front someday and add it there ?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 12-05-2015, 22:05:42
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Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: RAnDOOm on 12-05-2015, 23:05:27
The new Wheat Fields is awesome. I trully hate those previous textures.

 But i have an important question regarding it.

Is it going to be the same as it is now, by that i mean:

Dodgy players that play with low settings on purpose = no wheat fields = no cover .
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 12-05-2015, 23:05:39
No, that is the point. They are overgrowth, not undergrowth, so they always render. If you overdo it they will lag out your map though.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: RAnDOOm on 12-05-2015, 23:05:44
No, that is the point. They are overgrowth, not undergrowth, so they always render. If you overdo it they will lag out your map though.

AHHH. Ok. Got it.

Thanks for the quick reply Ts4EVER .

Thats is awesome!   ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 12-05-2015, 23:05:49
I think we actually showed it in the pegasus stream if you are interested.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Airshark79 on 13-05-2015, 06:05:00
The wheat fields are great. Props to the one came up with it, heck, props to all modelers who came up with this amazing set of items to play around with ^_^
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 13-05-2015, 10:05:55
Well, this wheat overgrowth is already in the files! ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Stubbfan on 13-05-2015, 13:05:44
Not the final one I don't think
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: xinguixi on 13-05-2015, 15:05:27
And the UE with Wurfgerät, the Somua S35, the M36B1 tank destroyer, the Sten MKV, British Paratrooper models, lots of reworked and rebalanced maps, new 3p animations for static weapons and new statics for custom mappers, including new vegitation to make proper wheat fields. But yeah, focus on the negatives.

What's the meaning of “new 3p animations”?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 13-05-2015, 15:05:35
1P = 1st person.
3P = 3rd person.

 :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: xinguixi on 13-05-2015, 15:05:15
 
1P = 1st person.
3P = 3rd person.

 :)
thanks  :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LuckyOne on 13-05-2015, 21:05:15
Wait, does that mean new animations for the MGs and such? What was exactly wrong with the current ones (except they were maybe taken from vBF2)?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 13-05-2015, 22:05:26
They weren't taken from vBF2 and were pretty buggy. Now, hands, head and body positions of MG gunners are fixed and look a lot better, same goes for gunner/pusher positions on static/movable AT guns. Also they are standardised now so they don't differ that much between different kind of guns. It's all about details.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LuckyOne on 13-05-2015, 23:05:58
^ Well in that case, hats off to our devs for their lovely attention to details!  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Stubbfan on 14-05-2015, 00:05:16
It's more of an IK and seat position fix than a 3p anim fix though.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 18-05-2015, 14:05:13
http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/fh2_vehicles.php?country=8
Wat? Also notice new colored Pak.
When  Sammatus was announced it hadnt Pak 40 or AT M1937.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 18-05-2015, 16:05:05
May I ask will we see any light-skinned vehicles for Finland or will they just use German or Russian ones with new textures?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 18-05-2015, 16:05:08
May I ask will we see any light-skinned vehicles for Finland or will they just use German or Russian ones with new textures?

Like what light-skinned vehicles...?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 18-05-2015, 16:05:55
Trucks and jeeps.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 18-05-2015, 16:05:02
Well we didnt have jeeps in our arsenal so you shouldnt expect seeing anything like that showing up. Trucks however, we used multiple different types. While we didnt have many (if any? We propably had some that the Fritz brought with them when they were around) Opel Blitz's, I'd see them adequate subtitutes until and if something proper would arrive. However, you should know that the main transport of the finnish army were legs and bicycles!  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LuckyOne on 18-05-2015, 22:05:38
^ What, no skis? I will be very disappointed if no Finnish map in the future of FH2 will feature skis!  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Alubat on 18-05-2015, 22:05:33
Skiiiss

Or just a bicycle with a skii as front wheel
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 19-05-2015, 05:05:50
^ What, no skis? I will be very disappointed if no Finnish map in the future of FH2 will feature skis!  :P

Against popular belief, we didnt ski during summer until the roller-ski's were invented.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 27-05-2015, 15:05:35
(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/imagesfh2/vehicles/BT-7%20model%201937_5/big.jpg)
That snow skin looks nice... I hope we will see it in-use.....
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 27-05-2015, 16:05:52
Not in the first EF release but who knows what the future holds.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 28-05-2015, 16:05:06
I found in files  some of french stuff like that airplaine,french win and lose song,... Dont be angry on me but everytime french devs realised some mappack they wrote "there isnt french army,vehlicle in it until maps arent officilal but you have Panhard :P".Is that mean that there were  more french vehlicle never shown and maybe army or they were troling when they were saying that( there wasnt anything made)?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 28-05-2015, 17:05:02
There is quite a lot of french content in game files, but definately not enough to release an early war theatre, and since French Hope project was scrapped, this content is unfinished and it is unlikely that anybody will work on it, when there are no maps for it under development. None of the french models were officialy released, you could use the Panhard you talking about on their maps, as it was made (or ported from FH1) by French Hope developers but it has nothing to do with any models FH2 devs made.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 28-05-2015, 21:05:01
I asked because Im here from mid 2014 and by then French mod died and that Stoone map minimap looks nice.When you tipe Battle of Stoone 1940 first picture is this.
(http://media.moddb.com/cache/images/groups/1/7/6267/thumb_620x2000/minimap.1.jpg)
But can you say that this map+Somua+Panhard(they maybe made or one from FH2 devs)+French voices was pretty close to at least one Franch map.I said pretty
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 28-05-2015, 21:05:11
But can you say that this map+Somua+Panhard(they maybe made or one from FH2 devs)+French voices was pretty close to at least one Franch map.I said pretty
- what makes you think this map was release ready?
- what about rest of the vehicles?
- what about static weapons like artillery, AT guns, MGs?
- what about french hand weapons and player models?
- what about early German equipment?

Do you really believe you can create an enjoyable, and historically accurate map with only two vehicles? Add to that hours and hours of codding work needed to make models work in game as intended and bug free. This map may be set up in France, but since it's an early war scenario with new army taking part of it, releasing such map would be like adding a completely new front. I don't think FH2 will release half finished map, and the one with all the placeholder was released as a custom map by French Hope team IIRC.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MaJ.P.Bouras on 28-05-2015, 23:05:55
Playing the devils advocate

Content with placeholders is better than no content.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 28-05-2015, 23:05:06
Content with placeholders is better than no content.

Not necessarily for a lot of reasons. But personally I play with placeholder/bug filled content every day in the beta and it's not 'fun.'  It's nothing compared to regular FH2 even if we're in a test session with a good amount of players.

Besides that I could make the argument that all our Normandy content is 'placeholder' for the EF and so just use your imagination and enjoy that :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 29-05-2015, 01:05:16
No jan has right.It wasnt stuff to make this map and with using placeholders. But there were 10-12 of them as I saw on ModDB and still progress was little.. Also there are French statics like houses from Western front,that is big part of mapping.
Forgoten hope(africa and western front)-enough to call exist
Eastern Front- in progress
French hope-died
Hungarian front-??? but probably near death
Chinese front-???-in progress
Pacific front- communitys just portred it from FH1
Italian front- there isnt,but communities has it with using greek statics
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 29-05-2015, 04:05:28
French hope-died

Don't lose faith in French Hope :) maps are the biggest and hardest part of putting together anything. And a good map can give a modeler an incredible amount of motivation. If you can make an amazing map for early war France, I don't think it would go to waste.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 29-05-2015, 15:05:51
Italian front- there isnt,but communities has it with using greek statics

Actually Forgotten Honor devs created plenty of Italian statics and maps with them. I think some of these maps have enough quality to be officially released...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: ksl94 on 29-05-2015, 15:05:35
The Italian campaign is something that I always wanted to have in Forgotten Hope Two.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 29-05-2015, 16:05:44
Italian front- there isnt,but communities has it with using greek statics

Actually Forgotten Honor devs created plenty of Italian statics and maps with them. I think some of these maps have enough quality to be officially released...

I agree. Especially Battle of Salerno rocked hard.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 29-05-2015, 18:05:44
Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don't you dig how beautiful it is out here?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hauggy on 29-05-2015, 18:05:13
The Italian campaign is something that I always wanted to have in Forgotten Hope Two.

Actually with the Forgotten honor tournament we're on Sicilia this evening we'll have a combined air and beach assault. :D

Indeed there are Italian statics on there maps.
To see the server remove punkbuster in your server filter. :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: hitm4k3r on 29-05-2015, 20:05:41
Well, Salerno for example was created by a dev afaik. So if Stubby feels like that it is worth to be added to the mod then nobody is stopping him.  :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 30-05-2015, 20:05:58
Stubby?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 30-05-2015, 21:05:12
He obviously doesn't feel like that, that's why this map isn't in game.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 30-05-2015, 21:05:55
Stubbfan has already said internally that he doesn't consider the map up to FH2 standard. Also, he is now coding and importing, not mapping anymore.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 04-06-2015, 12:06:58
(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/imagesfh2/weapons/M1917%20Enfield/big.jpg)
Maybe stupid question but why is here flag of Free France when this weapon was original from USA? Maybe someone wanted to make battles between Free France and Germany on Western Front (1944-1945)? Not French hope, the FREE FRENCH HOPE!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 04-06-2015, 12:06:58
It was the main weapon of the Free French Forces, so it was shown with the French Flag. Note that it has the Free French flag, whereas the Renault and Somua use the pre-1940 / Vichy Collaborationist flag.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 04-06-2015, 13:06:45
Nice touch! It is nice to see and find out who and where weapons were used. Thats why I like FH2 so much, so much different equipment and armies!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hauggy on 06-06-2015, 10:06:19
Give Free France player models. :D
I'm always disturbed to see Bir Hackeim pictures on Gazala loading screen with 75mm / Foreign Legion and stuff while you only get Brits.
I hope we'll get to see the owners of this gun.
Also how about the poles ? I noticed the Polish symbol on the eastern front map Icon.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 06-06-2015, 10:06:11
Also how about the poles ? I noticed the Polish symbol on the eastern front map Icon.

You mean this one?
(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/images/languages/english/scenarios/FH2/easternfront.gif)

It might be confusing, but the reason why polish symbol is there is because that icon is the same as in FH1 map section, and FH1 contained 1939 Invasion of Poland. There aren't polish forces in FH2
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: CptdeS35 on 07-06-2015, 01:06:08
There aren't polish forces in FH2

YET  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 07-06-2015, 04:06:55
I would love to see some ingame shots of this tank and the UE, preferably with both camous.  :)
(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/imagesfh2/vehicles/PzKpfw%2035-S%20739(f)_1/big.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 07-06-2015, 06:06:36
I think they're both shown in the stream if you click around in it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-tYetMggAw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-tYetMggAw)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: gamerjer on 07-06-2015, 21:06:42
There aren't polish forces in FH2

YET  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
polish forces in FH2?
This is probably what the devs would say about this:
(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/007/423/untitle.JPG)
 :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: hitm4k3r on 07-06-2015, 23:06:18
Where is the dream crusher when we need him?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 07-06-2015, 23:06:40
I'll twist the knife in the wound; we had a polish map in the works but it got lost in some warehouse (http://www.standbyformindcontrol.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/raiders_of_the_lost_ark_end.jpg) and now we dont have a polish map in the works. It was btw in a playable state too, very WIP but you could play it.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 08-06-2015, 15:06:34
The question is; is there Polish content to use on that lost map?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 08-06-2015, 15:06:51
Maybe  :-X
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 08-06-2015, 15:06:05
I think they're both shown in the stream if you click around in it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-tYetMggAw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-tYetMggAw)
Sorry, meant some nice HQ screenshots of those vehicles like that were done here (http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?topic=19801.15).
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: gamerjer on 08-06-2015, 15:06:24
so there is a map with polish forces for FH2?? thats kinda is an unexpected plot twist!
now my next question is what will happen with it? :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 08-06-2015, 15:06:48
so there is a map with polish forces for FH2?? thats kinda is an unexpected plot twist!
now my next question is what will happen with it? :P

Lets be clear here, last time anyone touched that map was 2012. To answer your question: More than likely nothing. It was abandoned.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 08-06-2015, 16:06:13
Also it never was an official map.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: gamerjer on 09-06-2015, 13:06:39
was it the warsaw uprising map? i have seen that costum map long time ago
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 09-06-2015, 17:06:48
No, it wasn't Warsaw Uprising, that one was made by a fan of the mod.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hauggy on 09-06-2015, 19:06:42
Devs would have never share an half done map exept with beta testers ofc.
That warsaw uprising map was actually very fun to play as far as I remember.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 09-06-2015, 19:06:04
Yeah, as the author of that map, I can say it definitely wasnt a Warsaw map.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hauggy on 10-06-2015, 00:06:10
Yeah, as the author of that map, I can say it definitely wasnt a Warsaw map.

Could you update it and make us play it again :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 10-06-2015, 07:06:00
Yeah, as the author of that map, I can say it definitely wasnt a Warsaw map.

Could you update it and make us play it again :D
You never played his map, also, Flippy is rather busy now, creating a map for eastern front ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: gamerjer on 10-06-2015, 09:06:48
as far as i know the warsaw uprising map was MP only and the polish skins were just kinda germans but with polish colors, but to go back to the polish map, were there units and player models made already? or just a map? :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hauggy on 10-06-2015, 13:06:57
Yeah, as the author of that map, I can say it definitely wasnt a Warsaw map.

Could you update it and make us play it again :D
You never played his map, also, Flippy is rather busy now, creating a map for eastern front ;)

Wait the Warsaw uprising map ? Sure played it on the event along with French hope maps at the time. Or are we talking about something else.
Anyway can't wait to see that eastern front map.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 10-06-2015, 14:06:40
I had absolutely nothing to do with the Warsaw map.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: ksl94 on 10-06-2015, 14:06:00
May I ask what the general status of the Pegasus Bridge map is?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Stubbfan on 10-06-2015, 14:06:41
It's unmarried ,pretty healthy, no major disease.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 10-06-2015, 15:06:05
It's finished, just waiting for bug fixes to release 2.49.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 10-06-2015, 18:06:50
as far as i know the warsaw uprising map was MP only and the polish skins were just kinda germans but with polish colors, but to go back to the polish map, were there units and player models made already? or just a map? :P
Warsaw uprising map was a custom fanmade map, it used german uniforms with polish armbands (which was a correct uniform for polish insurgents during that battle). Mentioned map, made by Flippy, portrayed battle from period after 1939, Poland didn't exist at the time, so player models and units weren't really needed, hence they were never made.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: ksl94 on 10-06-2015, 21:06:35
Ah, that is just splendid! I would like to thank you very much for that information. So, well, erm, how long will those bug fixes still take... ?  :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 11-06-2015, 03:06:54
 I just installed PR v1.3 Standalone & it was soooo easy.

 At least 10 servers to choose from.

 I recommend the FH2 Devs discuss this option & take as much time as needed to release patch 2.49 as a Standalone.

 Then, with that in place, the Eastern Front 2.50 patch would be HUGE


 ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: gamerjer on 11-06-2015, 09:06:37
standalone would be much easier indeed then i can tell all my friends get FH2 its free to download ;D
now some of them are to lazy do all the steps first (me also got a copy pasted FH2 on my harddrive so i can just paste it on my computer) also for coop but then i need to get diffrent keys because 2 the same fh2 keys wont go together so even then i need to put a bit effort in it to get some keys for coop :P but who knows maby the devs gonna look into the standalone soon? they have already said it could be possible :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 12-06-2015, 22:06:15
May I ask what ever happened to this map Ts4ever teased us with a long while back?

(http://imageshack.us/a/img24/6447/promorussian.png)
Is this map finished? WIP? Scrapped? We haven't heard much from it. I'm just curious.  :-\
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 12-06-2015, 22:06:55
Scrapped.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 12-06-2015, 22:06:32
Not necessarily scrapped, I just don't feel like working on it anymore  ;D maybe I will release it as a custom map for tournaments or something, who  knows.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 12-06-2015, 23:06:28
Or maybe someone else can finish it, a little like what you did recently ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 13-06-2015, 05:06:32
 I would love to dig around in Ts4EVER's FH2 scrap bin....


 ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hauggy on 13-06-2015, 11:06:48
Is that Leningrad ?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 13-06-2015, 11:06:51
No.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: radiosmersh on 14-06-2015, 15:06:59
I would lime to know if T-34-85 will have APCR ammo.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 14-06-2015, 15:06:23
Yes.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 14-06-2015, 18:06:19
Geez.. good luck with the Panthers and Tigers  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 14-06-2015, 19:06:41
Fun fact, T-34-85 is more than capable to take on Tiger II's.  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 14-06-2015, 20:06:22
Alright. Loving the possible (?) Soviet bias, like there isn't enough already  8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kasztelan on 14-06-2015, 20:06:26
Are you guys planning to add something new for Italians? I know it's not the priority now with Eastern Front in works, but it would be nice since Italian faction seems kinda incomplete with some german placeholders and without some of  iconic equipment like Semovente 75/18 or Autoblinda 41.

Also why there's an old FH1 model of M1919A4 on some vehicles when there is much better looking model used as deployable MG?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 14-06-2015, 20:06:13
Alright. Loving the possible (?) Soviet bias, like there isn't enough already  8)

Que?


---

@Kasztelan

No plans for ities.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 14-06-2015, 20:06:45
Also why there's an old FH1 model of M1919A4 on some vehicles when there is much better looking model used as deployable MG?
Good point, I believe it's because those models were origianlly made for FH1 (but were FH2 compatible), and at the time they were added to FH2, new M1919A4 model wasn't ready, like it was the case with Stuart II "Honey" added with first NA release. Hopefully it will be changed in the future  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 14-06-2015, 20:06:07
Que?

Well, a la verga. T-34-85's knocking out Tigers and Tiger IIs from the distance of 1,000 meters while speeding 53 km/h with a flawless cross country performance.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 14-06-2015, 21:06:11
Oh right yeah, suck it tiggas. Sotka ftw.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 14-06-2015, 21:06:17
Yo
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 15-06-2015, 00:06:29
We got a map in beta where the idea is that the defending Russians have to use the T34/85 to ambush some kingtigers. Two shots to the side tend to do the trick, but if you get hit yourself you're done.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 15-06-2015, 11:06:26
Ambushing, that sounds like fun. Will the T-34s have a distinctive black/blue exhaust smoke, as well? 

(http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/1/1d/CaF_T34_01.jpg/500px-CaF_T34_01.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst on 15-06-2015, 11:06:23
We got a map in beta where the idea is that the defending Russians have to use the T34/85 to ambush some kingtigers. Two shots to the side tend to do the trick, but if you get hit yourself you're done.

A more with more than 1 kingtiger? German bias!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 15-06-2015, 11:06:57
Sounds like Lake Balaton Offensive. Sweet!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: radiosmersh on 15-06-2015, 14:06:16
Sounds like Lake Balaton Offensive. Sweet!

It could be also the battle near bridgehead on Vistula river on 12 August 1944, which I believe was the first combat use of Kingtiger on Eastern Front.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 15-06-2015, 15:06:54
You are right RADIOSMERSH. Quite an embarrassing debut for sure.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 15-06-2015, 18:06:48
A more with more than 1 kingtiger? German bias!
There is at least one russian heavy tank to counter them if T34 drivers will fail to ambush those tigers, don't worry  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst on 15-06-2015, 19:06:38
I already love it to shoot 152 mm HE shells at german tanks.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LazMan12 on 15-06-2015, 19:06:27
I wonder if we are going to see an IS -2 heavy tank ingame. It was issued in early 1944 and used in major soviet offencives to the end of the war...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 15-06-2015, 19:06:04
I wonder if we are going to see an IS -2 heavy tank ingame. It was issued in early 1944 and used in major soviet offencives to the end of the war...
who knows?!  ???
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 15-06-2015, 19:06:41
IS-2, ISU-152... bring 'em on. I hope we'd see some new German equipment as well, or at least  revamps on the existing vehicles.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 15-06-2015, 20:06:51
Which new equipment you are hoping for, or what kind of revamps you'd like to see?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kasztelan on 15-06-2015, 21:06:41
It would be cool to see some versions of existing vehicles like Hanomags with cannons like SdKfz. 251/9 or 251/22. Or SdKfz. 234/2 Stummel (same chassie as Puma), Flammpanzer III and of course BF 109G.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 15-06-2015, 21:06:07
.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 15-06-2015, 22:06:57
Of course the Germans will get some new stuff, but you people are always thinking of all this obscure shit... some examples of new vehicles are the Panzer IIIL with Skirts and Panzer IIIM.

On a slightly related note, you may remember that a while back I posted Russian spawn screens.

1944:

(http://i.imgur.com/YKqhBKW.jpg)

1945:

(http://i.imgur.com/NoKhJkv.jpg)

And now, to round in out:

1943:

(http://i.imgur.com/dRjl4J0.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 15-06-2015, 23:06:34
I note that the assault class isn't limited... does this mean PPSH's for all?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 15-06-2015, 23:06:52
Yep. These arent actually completely standardized, for instance on Arad the engineers get unlimited PPS43s. Generally the Russians are the best at close combat.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hauggy on 16-06-2015, 00:06:15
Yeah we're far from hollywood movies and the one rifle for 2 mens. xD
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 16-06-2015, 02:06:52
What will have "Faustnik" in the equipment in 1944? Simply Panzerfaust?  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 16-06-2015, 04:06:30
Panzerfaust 30
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst on 16-06-2015, 08:06:15
Of course the Germans will get some new stuff, but you people are always thinking of all this obscure shit... some examples of new vehicles are the Panzer IIIL with Skirts and Panzer IIIM.

On a slightly related note, you may remember that a while back I posted Russian spawn screens.

1944:

http://i.imgur.com/YKqhBKW.jpg

1945:

http://i.imgur.com/NoKhJkv.jpg

And now, to round in out:

1943:

http://i.imgur.com/dRjl4J0.jpg

Since when do we know about the russian POMZ AP mine? Sneaky confirmation, eh?

I wonder what else there is, what already has been shown, but not everybody has recognized.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LazMan12 on 16-06-2015, 10:06:49
The RPG-43 and soviet binoculars also seem to be confirmed although they still heaven't been officially presented- but hey it's a conspiracie ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 16-06-2015, 15:06:36
There are a lot of things that have not been rendered yet. ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 16-06-2015, 16:06:18
you people are always thinking of all this obscure shit...

Well, there was obscure shit all over the battlefield, especially in 1945: troop variants, depot level and factory rebuilds from old and new parts, experimental/emergency/captured/driving school vehicles - you name it. Just flip through any Panzerwrecks and you'll see what I mean.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 16-06-2015, 17:06:30
Yeah we're far from hollywood movies and the one rifle for 2 mens. xD

Yeah, the Russians were generally well equipped with small arms. It was the least of their worries.
I know many people here are all about the tanks, but I always liked to think about infantry loadouts as well. Most nations have certain "specialties", like the German machine guns or the American automatic rifles. I also like how loadouts change between time periods and units. I'd say most of our stuff is pretty realistic and authentic in that regard, with some exceptions (like having the G43 as a standard rifle in some cases or the FG42 as the standard lmg for the Fallschirmjäger).
As for Russian kits, the first few are fairly standardized: Scout, assault, rifleman and lmg don't change between maps really. Their specialty are smgs, they always have unlimited amounts. The tank hunters and engineers come with mines or at grenades, however the main weapon changes between one of the carbines or PPsh41 or PPS43, depending on the mapper.
The carbine is usually the M38, the M44 is only used in 1945 (it's more of a post war weapon really, but they were issued). The SVT40 is mostly used in 1943 but it is on some 1944 maps as a pickup kit. These were slowly withdrawn from production starting in 1942. If we make the at rifles they will probably be pickup only due to their doubtful utitility at this point, I bet most tank hunting player would prefer a normal carbine or machine pistol as a main weapon.

edit: And of course as always you can get some rare pickup kits ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hauggy on 16-06-2015, 21:06:35
Good point. If we we could break tank tracks it would be great but because of that AT rifles are often useless.

The soviet anti tank rifle was sometimes used as an anti infantryweapon  and even anti air (at least in Stalingrad).

I'd gladly turn it against infantry. :)

That being said the ammo were not all of the same quality because of mass production and the accuracy suffered at long range.

You know what i'd love ?
An Italian Solothurn 20mm AT rifle. :D
(http://www.inert-ord.net/atrkts/50-55-20/Solothurn20mm.jpg)

If we do get a russian AT rifle I hope it will be the PTRD 41.
I'm tired of the PTRS-1941 for Red Orchestra 2. :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 16-06-2015, 21:06:27
Pfttt this is FH2, we'll just make both, yolo.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hauggy on 16-06-2015, 23:06:36
I almost forgot how awesome you guys are, thanks for the reminder. :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Redbadd on 16-06-2015, 23:06:53
That solothurn was also used in the Fokker T V. bomber as board cannon iirc. (in regard to the aa anti tank rifle)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst on 17-06-2015, 08:06:43
Russian without AT rifles is like germans without Mg42s.

Btw: Will we still see Panzer III L or M in some of the 1943 maps? Atleast the Panzer III L is already available with the right camo (FH2 compatible)?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LazMan12 on 17-06-2015, 11:06:18
Very well said Ts4ever! This is what I love about FH2.
While the AT rifles were of limited use by that time and a carbine is usually more useful, I would still like to see at least one of them. Hanomags, armored cars and I think that some Panzer lll models which had 30mm armour on the turret sides will be vulnerable- maximum penetration of the 14.5x114 is usually stated to be 40mm at 100m (it is quite more powerfull than the featured brit and german AT rifles)
Keep up the good work guys  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 17-06-2015, 14:06:52
@Oberst: As I wrote before, we have the Panzer IIIL with camo and with or without skirts + the Panzer IIIM.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 17-06-2015, 14:06:41
Can you leak is any EF uniform/army in progress?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hauggy on 17-06-2015, 15:06:07
That will obviously be in a future update.
Probably the last thing FH2 devs would leak. :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst on 17-06-2015, 15:06:44
@Oberst: As I wrote before, we have the Panzer IIIL with camo and with or without skirts + the Panzer IIIM.

I take this as confirmed  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 17-06-2015, 21:06:44
I havent see Todel a long time.....
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 17-06-2015, 21:06:14
Probably working on Rising Storm 2.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 17-06-2015, 21:06:20
Just today I saw him. :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 17-06-2015, 22:06:08
Can you leak is any EF uniform/army in progress?
Psschhttt! Don't tell anyone, but I can leak this (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/imagesfh2/armies/Heer/big.jpg) army, which will surely be on the EF...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hauggy on 17-06-2015, 22:06:54
You're a funny guy Slayer, I like you... this is why i'm going to kill you last. :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 17-06-2015, 22:06:53
You're a funny guy Slayer, I like you... this is why i'm going to kill you last. :P

"I lied."
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: tempest on 18-06-2015, 04:06:43
I've noticed that the announced unreleased Russian maps are up on the website in the maps section.  Is there a reason Pegasus Bridge isn't there?  Still too far from being done to show off, or haven't gotten around to it?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst on 18-06-2015, 09:06:50
Technically Pegasus isn't announced yet, because there hasn't been a news showing the final map layout und setup (in contrast to those three russian front maps). What has been shown was a Dev-Videoblog of a WIP Pegasus map, but not the finished one. Therefore it is not yet on the website, although iirc Ts4ever stated in the forums it is finished.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 18-06-2015, 13:06:49
The map is done, but it will be shown in the "Road to 2.49" news.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 18-06-2015, 22:06:29
Question: Is there a map being worked on for Eastern Front that has the Churchill tank? Is it in 1943?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 18-06-2015, 22:06:51
Possibly ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 18-06-2015, 22:06:21
Question: Is there a map being worked on for Eastern Front that has the Churchill tank? Is it in 1943?

(http://i.imgur.com/fZubAtK.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 18-06-2015, 23:06:20
The map is done, but it will be shown in the "Road to 2.49" news.

When?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Eat Uranium on 19-06-2015, 00:06:04
Not today.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 19-06-2015, 00:06:53
But this upcoming weekend,  huh?  :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 01-07-2015, 16:07:53
So over on the modding forums Ts4ever posted this picture with an unidentified map being worked on:

"Width"

(http://i.imgur.com/DchkvX3.png)

Looking at the blacked out spaces it seems the map name might start with M or N
What are your thoughts?


Also:
Yeah but it's not like most people read this thread anyway.  ;D
8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 01-07-2015, 16:07:51
Well, the map does not start with an M or N. :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 01-07-2015, 18:07:37
Well, the map does not start with an M or N. :)
But that was pretty close guess, actually.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 01-07-2015, 18:07:28
The image does not give us any clue either...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 01-07-2015, 18:07:45
Jan gave clue.
Korsacov said on this threat;
Probably is Seelow. Or it could be Crimea. Arad, Dukla, Lenino, Prokhorovka, Ilomantsi, Kuuterselka, Zielona Gora, Puffendorf, Kharkov...
Eat Uranium said on this;
Of these 11 maps: 2 are shown, 1 is a test map and 1 has been dropped.  The rest, well, that would be telling...
So...Arad and Dukla are showned,Kuuterselka is droped and then,by Jan pretty close with M or N, should be Khrakov/Prohorovka/Lenino/Puffendorf. I would say Lenino 8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kasztelan on 01-07-2015, 18:07:38
Maybe Battle of Ogłedów? Someone mentioned that map about first battle of Kingtigers is in works and this battle was their debut (not very good debut actually ;))
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 01-07-2015, 18:07:14
I would say Lenino 8)

Well then visit it on Google Earth and see if it looks like that.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 01-07-2015, 22:07:26
The image does not give us any clue either...

Well for me it looks like France, hence the bocage in the background. Perhaps it's another Normandy map for the next patch along with Pegasus?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 01-07-2015, 22:07:55
Hedgerows dont exist outside normandy, fun fact.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 01-07-2015, 22:07:49
That isnt bocage, I'm just using the hedgerow statics to make cheap forests. You place them into a circle, put a bunch of low detail trees in the middle: bang, forest for almost no performance loss. Only drawback: Not enterable, but on some kinds of map that is actually preferable.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 02-07-2015, 23:07:57
You place them into a circle, put a bunch of low detail trees in the middle: bang
film with Mel Gibson!

(http://theredlist.com/media/database/muses/icon/cinematic_men/1980/mel-gibson/050-mel-gibson-theredlist.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Erwin on 03-07-2015, 12:07:22
That picture is from a battle somewhere in Poland.  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 03-07-2015, 13:07:50
 The only real clue in that pic that i can see is "industrial sign".

 Which still leads me nowhere. But if the 1st letter is not m or n, then it may be a h.

Can you give us another clue?



Also i just noticed something. On the Forgotten Hope website, the eastern front maps logo looks like this.

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/images/languages/english/scenarios/FH2/easternfront.gif)

The announced maps are:

Sammatus - Russia against Finland
Arad - Russia against Germany
Dukla Pass  - Russia against Germany

So which army is the 4th logo?

 ???
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hauggy on 03-07-2015, 13:07:45
lol Jimi it's the Polish forces logo.

I already asked about a potential Polish army but I was told this pic was simply recycled from FH1 and that I could dream on just like for the French forces. :(
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 03-07-2015, 13:07:26
lol Jimi it's the Polish forces logo.

I already asked about a potential Polish army but I was told this pic was simply recycled from FH1 and that I could dream on just like for the French forces. :(

 I was pretty sure it was poland. They would'nt post a false image on the main site would they?


 ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 03-07-2015, 14:07:26
we can't find the psds for those logos and everyone is too lazy to make completely new ones, so we reuse those from FH1.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 03-07-2015, 14:07:42
Well, but if Lenino map is under development...  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 03-07-2015, 17:07:17
That picture is from a battle somewhere in Poland.  ;D
The scenery looks a bit like Poland to be honest, but from one picture it's really hard to say, it's just a picture with some random fields and a river? in the back, so it can be anywhere. What makes you think it's Poland?  ???


EDIT:

If that would be Poland it needs more Jesus and/or Virgin Mary, basically, something like this on every corner:

(http://www.polskiekrajobrazy.pl/images/stories/big/109636P.JPG)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 03-07-2015, 18:07:03
But it could be Lenino? "L" is close to "M" or "N"...  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 03-07-2015, 18:07:31
The battle of Lenino was in October....
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Alubat on 03-07-2015, 21:07:26
Battle for Stonne  ;D ?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 03-07-2015, 21:07:14
One last question about that map: (to Ts4ever) is that your own personal map or are you finishing someone's, like you did with Omaha?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 03-07-2015, 22:07:23
My own project, like Dukla pass was. Hasn't shown up in any public changelog yet.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst_Kroenen on 03-07-2015, 23:07:14
My own project, like Dukla pass was. Hasn't shown up in any public changelog yet.

Then its an all new map we must be looking forward to then :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 03-07-2015, 23:07:06
My own project, like Dukla pass was. Hasn't shown up in any public changelog yet.

 The plot thickens.........

 Quick, someone name a polish battle 1944ish that begins with the letter H.


 ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 03-07-2015, 23:07:10
Why H?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 03-07-2015, 23:07:29
Why H?

FYI.....My guesses are intelligent/thoughtful/calculated & have been formulated with over 40 years of life experience from around the world in various situations.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 03-07-2015, 23:07:52
Gotcha.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 03-07-2015, 23:07:22
(http://www.fugly.com/media/IMAGES/Random/owned_knockout.jpg)

Kurator just p0wned Jimi
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 04-07-2015, 01:07:50
 Well that is very funny, but i am guessing (common sense is not a factor) that the mystery map may begin with an h and possibly in Poland.

 And then again i may be the biggest ass at a donkey party



 :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 04-07-2015, 02:07:46
the mystery map may begin with an h and possibly in Poland.

Are you talking about the battle of Hel?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Hel
 ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 04-07-2015, 15:07:35
Why H?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 04-07-2015, 16:07:05
Why H?

 The image reveals a character with a lower case inner arch. So, if m & n were eliminated, i just guessed h.

 So much interest in h, perhaps im on to something here.

 ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 04-07-2015, 19:07:02
Why H?

 The image reveals a character with a lower case inner arch. So, if m & n were eliminated, i just guessed h.

What? If you mean the blacked out area in the road tab, that's for a road on a different unannounced map altogether.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 09-07-2015, 00:07:01
So, what still needs to be done to have 2.49 patch released? Another new map?  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 09-07-2015, 00:07:56
Dunno, I think Gavrant wants to fix more bugs and overhaul some maps (Siege of Tobruk and Cobra have been mentioned IIRC).
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 09-07-2015, 09:07:18
Sounds interesting...  :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst on 09-07-2015, 09:07:10
Dunno, I think Gavrant wants to fix more bugs and overhaul some maps (Siege of Tobruk and Cobra have been mentioned IIRC).

For this I love you, guys!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 10-07-2015, 14:07:59
Give us some conspiracie!!! It started to be boring on forum ;D

Edit:Or update 8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 10-07-2015, 15:07:51
OK. Dig in.

Click me if you dare. (http://s29.postimg.org/du13stddx/screen060.png)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 10-07-2015, 17:07:54
no image shows up when I click the link... or was that intended? If yes, that was pretty cruel, Flippy.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LuckyOne on 10-07-2015, 17:07:11
no image shows up when I click the link... or was that intended? If yes, that was pretty cruel, Flippy.

It's easily fixed: here's the direct link: http://s29.postimg.org/3wq2zr5s7/screen060.png

Looks like somewhere in Finland maybe?  ::)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 10-07-2015, 17:07:03
Looks like somewhere in Finland maybe?  ::)

Damn, my job here is done. One measily screenshot and a dude immediately recognizes it as finland. I am the master mapper, everyone go home. New king in town.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Musti on 10-07-2015, 18:07:22
It does look like Finland! :D Not bad.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kasztelan on 10-07-2015, 20:07:35
So, will this map have some finnish armored vehicles?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 10-07-2015, 20:07:50
Well for that to happen, it would have to have finns... yes?

Nobody confirmed it's finland (spoiler, it isnt!).
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MaJ.P.Bouras on 10-07-2015, 20:07:48
Road to every eastern European countryside: The map.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst on 11-07-2015, 11:07:48
Road to ..., eh?

I really like the details apart from all the new equipment, like the new trees! New statics are as important as new tanks, but only rarely get the attention.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 11-07-2015, 23:07:53
Gotta thank Nissi for that T34 wreck. ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 12-07-2015, 06:07:39
 This may have been asked before but there isnt a thread. so.........

 Will we see any of the following in the next new maps (patch maps or Eastern Front)

- Destructible Objects (walls, bridges, bunkers, doors ect....)
* the destructible wall on Gold beach was a nice touch

- Open/close objects (doors)
* similar to the bunker doors on Sidi Rezegh


 ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LuckyOne on 12-07-2015, 10:07:00
^ How about destructible doors :P

So we can either persuade the Germans to open them nicely or simply blow the bloody doors off! ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 12-07-2015, 15:07:58
I have a question relating to EF update. Even though there aren't any planned winter maps for first EF patch, will we have in the files vehicles with winter camouflage (I saw T-34 winter renders) and Russian winter uniforms in order to create winter custom maps?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 12-07-2015, 15:07:30
Right now, no to both. I dont think we have winter camos for anything else except the BT-7.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 12-07-2015, 16:07:09
If we had winter uniforms we would make winter maps....
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hauggy on 13-07-2015, 09:07:56
Damn I guess that says it all.
Hopefully a talented person will emerge and allow us to have some more variety.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LuckyOne on 13-07-2015, 10:07:29
If we had winter uniforms we would make winter maps....

Even then the greatcoats are a problem... I wish BF2 could do greatcoats like BFH. But we might have to wait for FH2 to be ported to 2142 engine for that...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 14-07-2015, 17:07:42
If we had winter uniforms we would make winter maps....

Even then the greatcoats are a problem... I wish BF2 could do greatcoats like BFH. But we might have to wait for FH2 to be ported to 2142 engine for that...

Hmm... So, supposedly, if devs decided to release FH2 as standalone, what would be the biggest disadvantage of releasing this standalone on Bf2142 engine?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Korsakov829 on 14-07-2015, 18:07:00
Uh, the tremendous amount of work involved that could delay actual development?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 14-07-2015, 18:07:14
Uh, the tremendous amount of work involved that could delay actual development?

What exactly? Will we be able to use existing maps?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 14-07-2015, 19:07:21
It would be possible to port everything to BF2142 to get a better engine... theoretically. In practice there might be tons of serious road blocks nobody knows about.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hauggy on 14-07-2015, 20:07:52
What a joke, clearly something that would be a waste of time if you ask me. :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 14-07-2015, 22:07:31
What a joke, clearly something that would be a waste of time if you ask me. :P
Agree.Joke. Better give us Eastern Front.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 14-07-2015, 22:07:18
Hey Ts will there be soon something like 1st May day ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: gamerjer on 14-07-2015, 22:07:59
What a joke, clearly something that would be a waste of time if you ask me. :P
well if they do port it to the BF2142 engine then it would be better to immediately make it a standalone of BF2142 XD but yeah eastern front is priority 1 :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 14-07-2015, 23:07:15
Speaking of Eastern Front...

We were still not told what was behind the su76, is it the new howitzer model?
(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/news/140702/berezin.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Eat Uranium on 15-07-2015, 19:07:52
The artillery is not hiding behind that SU-76M.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 15-07-2015, 19:07:23
 If FH2 was a restaurant & i was in the kitchen, what would i see cooking?

 I know we have 3 completed maps....

- Would i see Ts4EVER baking another map in the oven
- would i also find 3 other maps simmering on the stove
- would i see Flippy verbally abusing the hired help
- roughbreak unloading a truck full of statics and stacking them in a store room
- Jan standing outside in the rain, waiting for a free table cursing innocent bystanders
- Slayer doing stand up comedy and nobody is laughing


discuss...
 :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 15-07-2015, 20:07:33
- See Jimi do his vaudeville routine. Fail utterly, get removed from the restaurant.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 15-07-2015, 23:07:09
-See Seth Soldier and Krater making new equipment
-See Gavrant making final with bugs
-See Flippy making his map with biggest amount of kraters(Moon map)
-See Fuchswiesel finishing Prohorovka
-See Stufban coding
-See Eat Uranium making new update post
-See Matthew_Baker making new textures
-See Lighting hiding around
-See Spitfire with some codes and animations
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Stubbfan on 16-07-2015, 08:07:29
Stufban.. is that what im being reduced to these days..
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hauggy on 16-07-2015, 09:07:24
Krater lolz
Who is that ?
Stubb if you want credit for what you did then tell us. :p
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 16-07-2015, 15:07:10
-Krater making new equipment
-Flippy making his map with biggest amount of kraters

Im working on a cloning laboratory, indeed.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 17-07-2015, 14:07:29
- See Jimi do his vaudeville routine. Fail utterly, get removed from the restaurant.

 My routine failed because there was no audiance.....

 :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 18-07-2015, 21:07:17
I saw Stalingrad was on test server......  :o
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Eat Uranium on 18-07-2015, 22:07:25
You did, that's news to me!

I'm looking forward to testing that map soon in that case.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 18-07-2015, 22:07:09
Aye, good news. Cant wait to give it a spin.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 18-07-2015, 22:07:02
isn't test server hidden?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 18-07-2015, 22:07:27
No
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 18-07-2015, 22:07:40
Screenshot evidence required.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 18-07-2015, 22:07:46
No
Someone rename this topic to 'Bullshit Thread Mk I", please.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 19-07-2015, 05:07:02
I saw Stalingrad was on test server......  :o

 I hope you have evidence....

 I would wait 5 years for Stalingrad.

 8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst on 19-07-2015, 15:07:55
No
Someone rename this topic to 'Bullshit Thread Mk I", please.

I can arrange that  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 19-07-2015, 19:07:13
I hope this ridiculous inaccuracy of German guns will be fixed with the next update!  8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 19-07-2015, 19:07:36
I hope this ridiculous inaccuracy of German guns will be fixed with the next update!  8)
Can you give us more details on your imaginary problems?  8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 19-07-2015, 19:07:01
I hope this ridiculous inaccuracy of German guns will be fixed with the next update!  8)
Can you give us more details on your imaginary problems?  8)

This random round spread of Axis guns is ridiculous comparing to laser accuracy of Allied tanks with longer barrels like Hellcat,  Sherman 76, etc.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Eat Uranium on 19-07-2015, 19:07:06
Can you provide examples of German tanks that are inaccurate please.

FYI, the deviation for AP:
M4A3 76 winter0.15
Panther A0.15
Hellcat0.15
Pz IV H0.15
JPz IV0.15
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 19-07-2015, 21:07:56
Stug, Panther, Panzer IV, Tiger... Maybe the scope is not accurately set?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 19-07-2015, 21:07:55
Or maybe... just, bare with me... maybe theres a slight chance that you are just... well, shit shot?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 19-07-2015, 21:07:55
Yeah, and round landed left of the triangle?  ;D Magic bullet...  ::)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst on 19-07-2015, 21:07:50
If you stand on uneven ground, the aimpoint will be affected. This appears to be more obvious on german sights, than on other sights. It might also be slightly more difficult to adjust for, as for example in the circular sights of american tanks.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 19-07-2015, 21:07:40
That would make sense actually.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Redbadd on 20-07-2015, 13:07:05
Yeah, and round landed left of the triangle?  ;D Magic bullet...  ::)

Well known problem for me when i have more than 1 beer in me.
Then i tend to aim with the wrong triangle one of the little triangles on the sides of the big one. Not sure wich sights they are actually.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 20-07-2015, 20:07:54
There are slight differences in the "convergence" of various tanks/guns that's most apparent when firing at a short distance, ie. the gun is offset to the left or right from the centre of crosshairs and shots will pass left/right of it at short range but at long range will eventually connect with the sight. However, I haven't noticed a clear ZOMFG ALLIED BIAS !!!1111§§§½½½ regarding this at all.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 20-07-2015, 21:07:41
When firing at a short distances, just use your brain and take under consideration the difference between position of your barrel and positon of your sights, because unfortunately, in FH2 they cannot be adjusted over the distance (optic sights are only a texture). It's not a rocket science to adjust your aim though, because against the belief of some people here, it is NOT random.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 20-07-2015, 22:07:49
I meant shooting at long distances... And yes, the round spread is random....
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 20-07-2015, 22:07:11
I meant shooting at long distances... And yes, the round spread is random....
Oh my fucking god, yes it is random, slightly, it's called deviation and it is explained here:

Can you provide examples of German tanks that are inaccurate please.

FYI, the deviation for AP:
M4A3 76 winter0.15
Panther A0.15
Hellcat0.15
Pz IV H0.15
JPz IV0.15

The way sights are off is not random and even a monkey can learn to shoot tanks accurately in FH2, I'm sorry you're not able to achieve that.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 20-07-2015, 22:07:18
And value "0.15" - actually what does it mean? Is it 0.15xdistance=round spread [m] ?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 20-07-2015, 23:07:56
Its like inaccuration of gun,how much it is not following sights,crosshair.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 20-07-2015, 23:07:38
And value "0.15" - actually what does it mean? Is it 0.15xdistance=round spread [m] ?
No, that would result in 15m of random spread while shooting at your target from 100m and that obviously doesn't happen in FH2. This is how it works on an example of MG42:

...A deviation of 0.2 translates to a spread of 0.34m at 100m...
Assuming code works the same way for other weapons, it means that with deviation of 0.15 you can get a random spread of ~25cm from a distance of 100m which is pretty close to fuck all.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 21-07-2015, 01:07:40
And value "0.15" - actually what does it mean? Is it 0.15xdistance=round spread [m] ?
No, that would result in 15m of random spread while shooting at your target from 100m and that obviously doesn't happen in FH2. This is how it works on an example of MG42:

...A deviation of 0.2 translates to a spread of 0.34m at 100m...
Assuming code works the same way for other weapons, it means that with deviation of 0.15 you can get a random spread of ~25cm from a distance of 100m which is pretty close to fuck all.

So why every time I fire a gun, the round goes in completely different direction?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Wilhelm on 21-07-2015, 03:07:26
And value "0.15" - actually what does it mean? Is it 0.15xdistance=round spread [m] ?
No, that would result in 15m of random spread while shooting at your target from 100m and that obviously doesn't happen in FH2. This is how it works on an example of MG42:

...A deviation of 0.2 translates to a spread of 0.34m at 100m...
Assuming code works the same way for other weapons, it means that with deviation of 0.15 you can get a random spread of ~25cm from a distance of 100m which is pretty close to fuck all.

So why every time I fire a gun, the round goes in completely different direction?

Maybe the factory your tanks are coming from put the guns in backwards?  ???
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 21-07-2015, 07:07:05
So why every time I fire a gun, the round goes in completely different direction?
If that's the case, the reason might be the fact, that you have no idea how to aim properly. That's the only explanation. Maybe you should check this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7D2UJAcNrA&list=PL0059528BCA568F9B&index=6) video out??
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 21-07-2015, 08:07:29
Is Fred still developer,guy that made super awsome statics? And will this site ever be updated?http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/staff.php?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 21-07-2015, 12:07:06
So why every time I fire a gun, the round goes in completely different direction?
If that's the case, the reason might be the fact, that you have no idea how to aim properly. That's the only explanation. Maybe you should check this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7D2UJAcNrA&list=PL0059528BCA568F9B&index=6) video out??

Seems that you haven't seen that video... Because there's nothing about "how to aim properly with tanks"...  ::)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 21-07-2015, 15:07:21
I searched old posts and archives,fh2 folder and found these..Just want to hear you about this:
(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/images/news/153%20-%20swordfish.jpg)
(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/images/news/155%20-%20TypeVIIB-4.jpg)
+in fh2 folder:-Sturmboot39
                   -Audacity
                   -FlowerClass
                   -Liberty
                   -GleaversClass
This is like,like someone wanted to make map like Defense of Malta,Convoy to Malta,or like some map that is at Africa coast.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hauggy on 21-07-2015, 15:07:31
Interesting !
Sadly I bet we won't ever see these in-game like the tons of content they keep in wooden crates along with the Arch of alliance. :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 21-07-2015, 15:07:26
Naw the stuff's actually ingame. They have been cut into smaller pieces and put into those boxes (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/Port%20en%20Bessin/bessin_eleven.jpg) you see littered around everywhere.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hauggy on 21-07-2015, 16:07:34
Oh nice so I suppose the ships / U-Boot I used on WaW servers were these. :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Stubbfan on 21-07-2015, 17:07:39
Oh nice so I suppose the ships / U-Boot I used on WaW servers were these. :)

Those + a bunch of other ports from fh1 / bf1942
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 21-07-2015, 17:07:56
Seems that you haven't seen that video... Because there's nothing about "how to aim properly with tanks"...  ::)
Nah, I know it very well, I just wanted to be sure you know how to use tanks, if you can't aim, you probably miss much more, like different types of ammo and other basic stuff.

This is like,like someone wanted to make map like Defense of Malta,Convoy to Malta,or like some map that is at Africa coast.
Oh really?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vzj1omAdJo0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vzj1omAdJo0)  ;)

Supplies for Malta was a pretty decent map, with an unique 'convoy type' gameplay, made by Stubbfan IIRC. It would be much better if not the tendency of custom mappers to throw all the available vehicles and FH1 ports on it, more or less fitting the scenario, instead of keeping the vehicle layout more humble and historically correct.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 21-07-2015, 19:07:51
But what of equipment that I wrote in first post would fit here,and how much more it would need to make?

P.S. Which dev did make these and why did he stop.
Please answer,Im interested.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 21-07-2015, 19:07:35
But what of equipment that I wrote in first post would fit here,and how much more it would need to make?

P.S. Which dev did make these and why did he stop.
Please answer,Im interested.

The Swordfish was made by Lobo and the UBoat by Messiha and Lobo. Neither of them have been active for a looooong time. These were made even before the first release. My guess is either as a proof of concept (like the UBoat) or someone had a naval map planned that was never finished.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Stubbfan on 21-07-2015, 20:07:53
Messiha did the ship on omaha beach. And he did some changes on that not too long ago.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: NTH on 21-07-2015, 22:07:42
And value "0.15" - actually what does it mean? Is it 0.15xdistance=round spread [m] ?
No, that would result in 15m of random spread while shooting at your target from 100m and that obviously doesn't happen in FH2. This is how it works on an example of MG42:

...A deviation of 0.2 translates to a spread of 0.34m at 100m...
Assuming code works the same way for other weapons, it means that with deviation of 0.15 you can get a random spread of ~25cm from a distance of 100m which is pretty close to fuck all.

So why every time I fire a gun, the round goes in completely different direction?

Maybe the factory your tanks are coming from put the guns in backwards?  ???

Wilhelm thank you. Laugh of the day for me  :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: musska on 21-07-2015, 22:07:23
I'm on Desperados/Turkish delice so sorry in advance Seth. :-[

Whhat z was those Freya destroyed statics in the files a years ago ?

Ford gpa was playable & floating some yaaaars ago, then stuck ? (in case of Las Vegas Parano)

Hauggy you advance in Op Torch or ?

Na zdrowie !  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 21-07-2015, 23:07:40
Messiha did the ship on omaha beach. And he did some changes on that not too long ago.
"..and he did some changes on that not too long ago." On this,    Sworfish,ships and his naval map?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 21-07-2015, 23:07:55
Messiha did the ship on omaha beach. And he did some changes on that not too long ago.
"..and he did some changes on that not too long ago." On this,    Sworfish,ships and his naval map?

Kroatien cannot into reading comprehension.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hauggy on 22-07-2015, 01:07:59
I'm on Desperados/Turkish delice so sorry in advance Seth. :-[

Whhat z was those Freya destroyed statics in the files a years ago ?

Ford gpa was playable & floating some yaaaars ago, then stuck ? (in case of Las Vegas Parano)

Hauggy you advance in Op Torch or ?

Na zdrowie !  ;D

You mean Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. :P

Sorry musska I only worked on "Pont de L'arche" and lost all of my work when my PC died, I never tried to work on a FH2 map since, Cpt.Bocquier asked me about it a few months ago.

Anyway there's no hope left for a French faction and I'm not motivated enough to start again from the beginning and it seem a very long way to even get near FH2 mapping standards from my nooby point of view.

Messiha did the ship on omaha beach. And he did some changes on that not too long ago.
"..and he did some changes on that not too long ago." On this,    Sworfish,ships and his naval map?

Kroatien cannot into reading comprehension.

I think I understood what Ivancic meant. And I believe Stubbfan was saying changes were done to the ship on Omaha, I suppose it was reskinned or something, for the rest I understand it was left like that since before release.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 22-07-2015, 05:07:09
Anyway there's no hope left for a French faction....

Remember, Red, hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 22-07-2015, 14:07:01
Anyway there's no hope left for a French faction....

Remember, Red, hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies.
Yes,there is hope.As I know from post here,these what FH2 have:
*H39-in FH2 files
*Somua-official
*Panhard-by French Hope developers
*ChairB1Bis-,always mentioned in changelogs
;) CharB1Bis and SomuaS35 are more beautifull

*Citroen 11CV-Car,official
*Renault UE-official
*Mas38-gun,icon shown on picture on 70 page of this thread
*Morane-Saulnier-in FH2 files
*Le Vengeur de 1870-knife,was shown on 81 page of this thread
*Rifle Berthier model 1916-there is icon ingame,81 page of this thread
*sa34 25mm,Bloch 152-these two are mentioned on 54 page of this thread,and in all changelogs
*75mm model 1897-mentioned on 70 page of this thread,changelog
*Battle of Stoone,Sedan Breaktrough,.....-maps
*Matt Baker-always says there is hope,France is not dead

Is this good motivation for you Hauggy??
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 22-07-2015, 17:07:46
I'd say there is definitely interest towards battle of France within the dev team, however right now theres other priorities (finishing next patch and getting EF sorted) that are blocking any real development of that period of the war.

While it would be an interesting setting with all new army and equipment, plus early war german stuff that we havent really had much of in the past except for early NA maps and Mt.Olympus. I'd see that there's only one thing that would make the whole "front" slightly dull is the fact that its still france, the country we've been fighting in for years now. So while the maps would more or less be historically correct and so on, but you'd still see the same statics that you've seen since first normandy release. That could potentially kill the "feel" of playing something new to some people.

However, I hope that we'll get there eventually. It is an interesting time period with plenty of brutal battles that could be made into maps. Man power is what we require in all forms of development.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hauggy on 22-07-2015, 18:07:06
I guess I can hope that will be the next step after EF and the standalone version. :)
God I need this ! :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 22-07-2015, 18:07:58
So while the maps would more or less be historically correct and so on, but you'd still see the same statics that you've seen since first normandy release. That could potentially kill the "feel" of playing something new to some people.
Thats what would I fear off.Same statics,exept some churches,.. would kill feel of new. So it requires not totaly new statics,but many more french buildings.

About manpower,that is what FH2 needs. But there is also a lot of people here that are good and that needs to be motivated. Some are:Im now learning this stuff,Hauggy,Outlaw,Mudzin,snoOx, Harmonikater,....
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hauggy on 22-07-2015, 20:07:48
Oh please I just worked on one map and never finished it, you're too good.
Also it was a few years ago I'm afraid I forgot most of what I knew.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 22-07-2015, 20:07:49
About manpower,that is what FH2 needs. But there is also a lot of people here that are good and that needs to be motivated.
That's true. Two people from your list already were beta testers/applicants and they quit for personal reasons IIRC, and that's a shame. They're both very talented, and one of them took his application work with him I'm afraid, because I can't see his AWESOME project in the beta files anymore. But you can play on a map made by the other one  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 22-07-2015, 20:07:19
Since its gone and wont come back, can we learn what it was?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 22-07-2015, 20:07:49
Since its gone and wont come back, can we learn what it was?
No, if you could, I would probably tell you  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hauggy on 23-07-2015, 16:07:10
What happened to the hipfire animations I've seen years ago ?
Is there a plan to add this in a future update or ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Rgm5bJwGRc
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 23-07-2015, 17:07:27
Chad is not an active developer for a long time. AFAIK he works for Traction Wars game now. IIRC those animation didn't even get into the beta version, at least I never had opportunity to test them. So answer is no, don't expect to see then in game.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hauggy on 23-07-2015, 20:07:22
Damn I'd love to be able to do that in game, I guess it's realistic since on the pictures I've seen they need 2 soldiers to hold the mg while they stand up and shoot.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: gavrant on 24-07-2015, 00:07:34
Those MG34 animations were in the betas for a year, Jan just has a bad memory :) All that hip fire thing was reverted shortly before 2.46 because only the MG34 had been upgraded with new animations. And TBH, I personally never liked that, it just made the MGs to behave like a semi-auto rifle with a tremendous rate of fire or a super-accurate SMG. And removed the "smart" part of gameplaying as the squad's "heavy machinegunner" - searching for a good firing position.

EDIT: This "conspiracies" thread turned into "Ask Me Anything" and "Leak like Titanic" thread, shame on you :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 24-07-2015, 01:07:38
Those MG34 animations were in the betas for a year, Jan just has a bad memory :)
I remember hip fire tests but animations it used back then were extremely buggy/broken, those on the video look pretty good, or was it the case only with MG42 which wasn't animated properly?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: gavrant on 24-07-2015, 01:07:57
Chad made new hip fire animations only for MG34, there never were new animations for MG42 or M1919A6 or AT rifles.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hauggy on 24-07-2015, 03:07:24
gavrant sorry to dissapoint you :(
Maybe I should have started by stating this was a conspiracy of the dev team against Chad and his heretic animations that they made disappear along with him :P
Anyway thanks for the answer I really appreciate, now leak like Titanic, please ! :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Fuchs on 25-07-2015, 19:07:22
I'd say there is definitely interest towards battle of France within the dev team, however right now theres other priorities (finishing next patch and getting EF sorted) that are blocking any real development of that period of the war.

While it would be an interesting setting with all new army and equipment, plus early war german stuff that we havent really had much of in the past except for early NA maps and Mt.Olympus. I'd see that there's only one thing that would make the whole "front" slightly dull is the fact that its still france, the country we've been fighting in for years now. So while the maps would more or less be historically correct and so on, but you'd still see the same statics that you've seen since first normandy release. That could potentially kill the "feel" of playing something new to some people.

However, I hope that we'll get there eventually. It is an interesting time period with plenty of brutal battles that could be made into maps. Man power is what we require in all forms of development.

I personally hope that's where FH2 ends, exactly where FH started. Even one or two maps of France 1940 would be enough, both as a final 'earliest' theatre and a homage to the roots of FH.

But first the long push to Russia and that other weird country.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hauggy on 25-07-2015, 20:07:41
Also i'd like to add that there's enought potential to create very different maps compared to the Normandy theater if somebody is willing to create new statics for them maps.
As the Battle of France fighting mostly took place in the north and east of France, I can assure you as a Frenchman who travelled around his country that we have quite different types of architectures depending on the region.
For example in the north many buildings are made out of red bricks inherited from the mining industry times:
(http://blog.logic-immo.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Fotolia_8043952_L_web-600x398.jpg)
(http://perlbal.hi-pi.com/blog-images/271254/gd/1172006807/Architecture-traditionnelle.jpg)
Back home in Lorraine many buildings are made out of this yellow stone called "pierre de jaumont" (here's the cathedral of Metz and the courthouse):
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/44/Metz_Cathedral_R01.jpg/1920px-Metz_Cathedral_R01.jpg)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7b/Palaisjusticemetz.jpg)
Trust me in France there is no need to go far to find very different types of architectures.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: musska on 25-07-2015, 21:07:16
Conspi things... Don't worry Gavrant or be ashamed, lik RL showed us, we blamed Wikileaks not NSA, FH2 legend will live forevaaa !

Villy ferté map ? B1-bis counter-attack, possible Bufla to Knock Maginot line cupola ! nice pionnier fight gameplay Wise.

In my book, present a counter-attack map remake is an "Affront" regards creativity fh2 showed us.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Seth_Soldier on 25-07-2015, 21:07:19
we are aware about that. (architecture and history)
What Flippy is saying, it that it would still feel like a european country for most of the players.
If we do arnhem for instance, most of people would just feel like europe again whereas a lot of effort would have been required to create the map.(dutch architecture and countryside)

I've created the french army because i hoped someone in the community would do a high quality map (like in FH1 old days) but unfortunately it didn't happen.

I must say that it is a shame that modding is dead for most of people because i personnaly think, it's the easiest way to create what you dream of.
Indie game are a lot more time consuming and too many constraint to really be interresting.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: musska on 25-07-2015, 22:07:45
 :'( Juste st'plait enlève "mort aux cons"  et mets "Buvont  un coup....." sur "Katyusha" que j'écoutais gamin... mes reins me font de + en + mal. 33 piges en embrouille avec un mytho ex-commmando marine comme papy blessé en indo qui vénérait de Gaulle tu vois ...
merci.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 25-07-2015, 23:07:21
we are aware about that. (architecture and history)
What Flippy is saying, it that it would still feel like a european country for most of the players.
If we do arnhem for instance, most of people would just feel like europe again whereas a lot of effort would have been required to create the map.(dutch architecture and countryside)

I've created the french army because i hoped someone in the community would do a high quality map (like in FH1 old days) but unfortunately it didn't happen.

I must say that it is a shame that modding is dead for most of people because i personnaly think, it's the easiest way to create what you dream of.
Indie game are a lot more time consuming and too many constraint to really be interresting.
Hmmm.....
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 26-07-2015, 01:07:47
I've created the french army because i hoped someone in the community would do a high quality map (like in FH1 old days) but unfortunately it didn't happen.

So where's your French army in the files? I think if it was ready, there would have been made many custom maps already...  ::)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 26-07-2015, 02:07:35
No need for those files to make a 1940 map, tanks can always be added. That was the idea for the whole French Hope thing, for example.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 26-07-2015, 03:07:06
So where's your French army in the files? I think if it was ready, there would have been made many custom maps already...  ::)

No need to include the French Army in the files when it's not being used anywhere + it's nowhere near bug free.

And like TS said, let's see those custom maps. If you build it they will come. ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 26-07-2015, 12:07:43
So, is anybody willing to work on a 1940 french map? I would suggest something more open, concentrated on a tank warfare to avoid urban areas, so there won't be a lot of statics we all know very well from Normandy theatre  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 26-07-2015, 17:07:24
So, is anybody willing to work on a 1940 french map? I would suggest something more open, concentrated on a tank warfare to avoid urban areas, so there won't be a lot of statics we all know very well from Normandy theatre  ;)

 What about this suggestion jan....

Battle of Arras (1940)- took place during the Battle of France, in the early stages of World War II. It was an Allied counterattack against the flank of the German army, that took place near the town of Arras, in north-eastern France. The German forces were pushing north toward the channel coast, in order to entrap the Allied Forces that were advancing east into Belgium. The counterattack at Arras was an Allied attempt to cut through the German spearhead and frustrate the German advance. Although the Allies initially made gains, they were repulsed by German forces and forced to withdraw to avoid encirclement.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Arras_(1940)


 ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 26-07-2015, 17:07:01
No need for those files to make a 1940 map, tanks can always be added. That was the idea for the whole French Hope thing, for example.

Its impossible to make a map without created army... It would be like making a new car project without engine...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 26-07-2015, 17:07:25
Its impossible to make a map without created army... It would be like making a new car project without engine...
Just use a british (or any other) army models as placeholders, when map will be approved, they can be changed into french ones easily  ::)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst on 26-07-2015, 17:07:51
Its impossible to make a map without created army... It would be like making a new car project without engine...
Just use a british (or any other) army models as placeholders, when map will be approved, they can be changed into french ones easily  ::)

Which would not so different in designing a new car, where also not all parts are there, when development starts.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 26-07-2015, 18:07:42
Its impossible to make a map without created army... It would be like making a new car project without engine...
Just use a british (or any other) army models as placeholders, when map will be approved, they can be changed into french ones easily  ::)

With those exaggerated mapping standard such work would be pointless.  Anyway French Hope maps are good example...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 26-07-2015, 18:07:45
Good example of how you should not map. Can you explain what exactly is exaggerated in your opinion?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 26-07-2015, 20:07:56
IMO Battle of Stonne custom map by French Hope did not suck at all. Firstly, it was very acurrate and was loyal to the actual battlefield. That is a big plus and also a criteria the FH2 developers want in their maps.

Some elements of gameplay could be altered, and more detail added to the overall map and I think that would make Battle of Stonne fit for use in FH2.

But of course, these are my two cents and I am not an official to decide. Just my humble opinion.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 26-07-2015, 20:07:09
Me and cpt has some plan with Stoone.... Im learning but for two months there will be something.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 26-07-2015, 20:07:53
I have to agree, that Stonne was the only one near FH2 'exaggerated' standards ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 26-07-2015, 20:07:43
Stonne is a very solid map and fun to play. Hopefully things work out with it.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 26-07-2015, 21:07:11
"Exaggerated" means IMO "final polish" - having a distinct look and feel to the map ("art direction" if you wanna be fancy), properly adjusted lighting and lightmaps (really sticks out in some custom maps), no strange clipping errors (have to jump in through a door even if the visible threshold is just inches high, how about no?), no visible "seams" in buildings, pavement, vegetation, and natural transitions between them (really odd to see a house just sinking right into the street with no curbs on the pavement whatsoever, or seeing the hexagon base because the grass is not deep enough in the ground, or seeing trees growing on thin air), natural-looking environment instead of a clinical maze without a "lived-in" feeling (those completely empty buildings - even without any staircase railings! - in those Italian custom maps, I'm looking at you).

Yes, you can create a map with good gameplay even without this stuff, but no matter how good a map, it will still feel like tabletop wargame terrain, not "being there" if the magic final touch is missing. However, there are custom maps which already (more or less) fulfill the above criteria so clearly these "exaggerated" standards are by no means impossible if you're willing to put enough effort into it.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 26-07-2015, 22:07:49
Stonne is a very solid map and fun to play. Hopefully things work out with it.

So there are "things" to work out about Stonne, hmm? :3
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 26-07-2015, 22:07:07
Stonne is a very solid map and fun to play. Hopefully things work out with it.

So there are "things" to work out about Stonne, hmm? :3

(http://asset-8.soupcdn.com/asset/11923/1871_8166.gif)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 26-07-2015, 23:07:51
This "Stonne" map is probably the longest map in development...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 27-07-2015, 00:07:05
Nah, it's not the longest. Not widest or heaviest either. It is more or less just the standard FH2 map size.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 27-07-2015, 00:07:26
I meant the time...  ::)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 27-07-2015, 00:07:38
Yes indeed, time runs while you are having fun. It's already late, gotta sleep, got taxes to pay and houses to burn!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MaJ.P.Bouras on 27-07-2015, 01:07:39
...and houses to burn!

But midsommar isn't in for at least another year!

Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Alubat on 27-07-2015, 19:07:34
This "Stonne" map is probably the longest map in development...

Longer than Pegasus ?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 27-07-2015, 20:07:09
This "Stonne" map is probably the longest map in development...

Longer than Pegasus ?

I wonder what let you take 'the official development' of Stonne as granted? I'm not aware of such thing, and AFAIK it's just a custom map, which was planned to be donated to FH2 when finished, but that never happened and I doubt it's being worked on ATM.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Alubat on 27-07-2015, 20:07:59
This "Stonne" map is probably the longest map in development...

Longer than Pegasus ?

I wonder what let you take 'the official development' of Stonne as granted? I'm not aware of such thing, and AFAIK it's just a custom map, which was planned to be donated to FH2 when finished, but that never happened and I doubt it's being worked on ATM.

I dont take anything as granted. Stonne is the mother of fh2 conspiracies

Which map has been under development for longest time ?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 27-07-2015, 20:07:12
I would say Omaha, since it was somewhere there in the FH2 top secret development lab since pre 2.2 times IIRC. But it's hard to call it the longest development as it wasn't constant, and progress on it was rather quick, at least right before the release when Ts4EVER was working on this project.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Alubat on 27-07-2015, 23:07:32
wow that is a long development time

btw :
Ste Mere Eglise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AwENGYm00w
should be adapted and re-released with Pegasus. That awesome map only had a few runs on cmp server and was only in rotation for a couple of days :-(
Really like those sounds of angry dog inside building

Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: hitm4k3r on 27-07-2015, 23:07:53
wow that is a long development time

btw :
Ste Mere Eglise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AwENGYm00w
should be adapted and re-released with Pegasus. That awesome map only had a few runs on cmp server and was only in rotation for a couple of days :-(
Really like those sounds of angry dog inside building

It is going to be back in the rotation when the next cmp version gets released. I just have no time to finish it right now. But it's not forgotten ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hauggy on 28-07-2015, 02:07:35
Good news !
I never had a chance to try it yet. :(
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 28-07-2015, 03:07:53
wow that is a long development time

btw :
Ste Mere Eglise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AwENGYm00w
should be adapted and re-released with Pegasus. That awesome map only had a few runs on cmp server and was only in rotation for a couple of days :-(
Really like those sounds of angry dog inside building

It is going to be back in the rotation when the next cmp version gets released. I just have no time to finish it right now. But it's not forgotten ;)

 YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 Finally, a unofficial announcement.

 :o
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: gamerjer on 28-07-2015, 12:07:19
i still got this map it once was released by Darman as a costum map  ;)

(http://i57.tinypic.com/29kx6xw.jpg)

(http://i57.tinypic.com/35i9mir.jpg)

(http://i61.tinypic.com/2hft5jr.jpg)

(http://i59.tinypic.com/347766o.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 28-07-2015, 12:07:25
Yea its great map. Love church bells,angry dog, crickets in night, nice improvised control points,bunkers...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Alubat on 28-07-2015, 15:07:44
wow that is a long development time

btw :
Ste Mere Eglise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AwENGYm00w
should be adapted and re-released with Pegasus. That awesome map only had a few runs on cmp server and was only in rotation for a couple of days :-(
Really like those sounds of angry dog inside building

It is going to be back in the rotation when the next cmp version gets released. I just have no time to finish it right now. But it's not forgotten ;)

Whuhuu, cant wait :-)

[762]RANKED #2 Sainte Mere Eglise 24/7 [256p]
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 28-07-2015, 21:07:10
OK fine. This is about as Finnish as it gets:

(http://i.imgur.com/e6UelwH.jpg)

Completely WIP and subject to change of course.

Is this Sammatus or a different Finnish map? I can't tell except for the skybox.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 28-07-2015, 22:07:07
That's an old screen of Sammatus (when it was still Kuuterselkä). Light settings and sky changed since then.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 28-07-2015, 22:07:06
Also, it's not as Finnish as it gets: no puukko or a bottle of spirit in sight.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 28-07-2015, 22:07:54
Also, it's not as Finnish as it gets: no puukko or a bottle of spirit in sight.
that reminds me that we need a reskin of a wine bottle static, we have in game, to make it look like a bottle of vodka. Anybody is up to that task? It would be really nice detail, perfectly fitting upcoming eastern front :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Alubat on 28-07-2015, 23:07:15
Starka is my favorite vodka  :)

vodka = 100% medic kit +random delay on mouse movement for 2 min
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 28-07-2015, 23:07:35
Why did I saw Swordfish and ships,why did Jan shown me video Supplies for Malta,why??? Im now opsest with it and Mediterian battles. I saw every battle and now "hope" this map will come to fh2. Ok I dont hope,99% imposible,but now I dream about italian SM.79 torpedo bombing british ships while italians battleships are coming. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malta_Convoys#December Ah,dreams.....
Anyway,that Audicity is awsome.AA,one rear canon and I love especially that lifeboat!

Edit: I hope Messiha will come back with new ships and plan
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 29-07-2015, 03:07:26
A brand new faction is being developed!

(http://i.imgur.com/nL3b9v1.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hauggy on 29-07-2015, 04:07:59
lol nice !
Actually a scarecrow sounds good :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FORGOTTENKEVINOHOPE on 29-07-2015, 04:07:31
don't let it scare you away mr. beak!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 29-07-2015, 19:07:37
Wow Herc was 10.06.2015 here??!! Is he still  developer?

Edit: http://s3images.coroflot.com/user_files/individual_files/461638_ymOv9sW2wVLqhMwOvulJHAysI.png
It says this plane made its way to fh2 like Hardy.If you not using it can you give it to files so community can use it?
http://s3images.coroflot.com/user_files/individual_files/461638_0wHI3xIjja4vhuvFzySa75AyE.jpg
This pipistrelo wasnt for fh2?Too bad.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 29-07-2015, 23:07:05
Please keep in mind that this is the public forum, not the internal/dev one. ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Stubbfan on 30-07-2015, 01:07:16
Ivancic1941 is not a betatester though AFAIK :), all these things he finds are picked up or leaked by others. The betatesters and devs are the biggest leaks in this forums!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 30-07-2015, 05:07:21
 It's time for another EF mystery screenshot for us to drool over and discuss........



 ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 30-07-2015, 09:07:27
Ivancic1941 is not a betatester though AFAIK :), all these things he finds are picked up or leaked by others
;D.   Can i be one?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 30-07-2015, 14:07:29
Ivancic1941 is not a betatester though AFAIK :), all these things he finds are picked up or leaked by others
;D.   Can i be one?

Yeah, probably the biggest leaker...  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 30-07-2015, 19:07:24
Ivancic1941 is not a betatester though AFAIK :)
:( :( :( :( :( :( :(


At least I tryed putting beta.txt to fh2 folder and this
(http://i.imgur.com/96fHeF5.png)

And changelog modified last 18.04.2015
- Seelow Update (ts4ever)
-Battle of Lenino crashbug fix (ts4ever)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 30-07-2015, 20:07:52
what changelog are you talking about?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 30-07-2015, 20:07:25
what changelog are you talking about?
Yes I just saw its outdated a little.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 30-07-2015, 20:07:51
that's not an answer to my question
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 30-07-2015, 21:07:40
I think Ivancic is trying to hack into the FH2 databases.  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 30-07-2015, 21:07:59
Hacking into the internal forum is certainly not going to make you a beta tester any sooner...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MaJ.P.Bouras on 30-07-2015, 21:07:32
(http://share.gifyoutube.com/yAO0ax.gif)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 30-07-2015, 22:07:35
WHAT????????IM NOT HACKING MY BEST GAME,ONLY ON MY COMP!!!!!! I just have it in my fh2 folder,I think everybody has it.Is says all versions ,you know 2.4823,2.4832 is last one.And maybe I got it when i put beta.exe to fh2 folder-I saw that from one old Ts4ever post ;D Last part of it says that stubbfan put prohorovka with planes again in test.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 30-07-2015, 22:07:32
That's just the 2.48 changelog... some masterful hacking right there.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Eat Uranium on 31-07-2015, 00:07:07
Yes, the latest beta is 3.0.643.  FH3 confirmed.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 31-07-2015, 14:07:41
So any chance for some "obscure sh#t" in the next update?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 31-07-2015, 14:07:26
So any chance for some "obscure sh#t" in the next update?

Define obscure shit. :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 31-07-2015, 15:07:44
Of course the Germans will get some new stuff, but you people are always thinking of all this obscure shit...
Any would be good.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 01-08-2015, 19:08:34
I hope next update is ROAD TO 2.49!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 01-08-2015, 19:08:41
I hope next update is ROAD TO 2.49!!!!!!!

Maaaaaaybe...  :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 01-08-2015, 21:08:44
I hope next update is ROAD TO 2.49!!!!!!!

Maaaaaaybe...  :)
YEs,give hope that I will soon drive Somua and Renault!!!!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 01-08-2015, 21:08:16
May the 2.5 Soviet patch also be the standalone patch? It would be awesome if it was.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: gamerjer on 02-08-2015, 00:08:01
May the 2.5 Soviet patch also be the standalone patch? It would be awesome if it was.
if thats gonna happen the devs can recive the status god (http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/smileys-and-emoticons/praying/smileys-praying-929024.gif)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hauggy on 02-08-2015, 01:08:56
2.49 has to be the standalone version, the Russian front will probably not come anytime soon.
I just can't wait to get all my friends into FH2 and see filled servers 24/7 omg. :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Wulfburk on 02-08-2015, 03:08:34
Yeah please devs MAKE FH2 standalone with the next update with Pegasus Bridge and all that.

 I MEAN SERIOUSLY PR IS ROCKING. (and EA would have sued them by now, if they wanted)



Unlike Batman, standalone is what FH2 needs, AND deserves.  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst on 02-08-2015, 09:08:37
I hope next update is ROAD TO 2.49!!!!!!!

Maaaaaaybe...  :)

please wait 2 weeks until the forgotten honor campaign has ended  ;) :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 02-08-2015, 10:08:13
I doubt it gonna be released anytime sooner  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 02-08-2015, 15:08:09
2.49 has to be the standalone version, the Russian front will probably not come anytime soon.
I just can't wait to get all my friends into FH2 and see filled servers 24/7 omg. :D
Instead tell them now to buy BF2 for a few cents on amazon, or somewhere else. They could join now instead of at a certain point in the future of which nobody knows when it is gonna be. Right now you are withholding your friends from months of fun (or even more) they could have while playing FH2.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 03-08-2015, 01:08:11
There is no authentication server anymore for the product key. Just saying.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hauggy on 03-08-2015, 01:08:43
lol like we could get many players this way...
I managed to get one single guy into the game this way, most just won't bother doing all this just to try a mod and I understand them.
Also the server itself seem to check the keys or maybe i'm wrong.
Don't count on me to make this mod more popular because I can't, it's up to the devs now, in the best case scenario and without the standalone they can bring back few players with next update and that's players who always had BF2 whether they knew FH2 or not and are just curious about the new stuff.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Leopardi on 03-08-2015, 10:08:42
2.49 has to be the standalone version, the Russian front will probably not come anytime soon.
I just can't wait to get all my friends into FH2 and see filled servers 24/7 omg. :D
Instead tell them now to buy BF2 for a few cents on amazon, or somewhere else. They could join now instead of at a certain point in the future of which nobody knows when it is gonna be. Right now you are withholding your friends from months of fun (or even more) they could have while playing FH2.
It doesn't work like that, it must be a simple standalone free download, that's the way to get new players try it.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hauggy on 03-08-2015, 10:08:56
Exactly ! That's just common sense imo.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 03-08-2015, 15:08:16
Hey, I know the solution! Leopardi and Hauggy are gonna learn how to code and make FH2 standalone! And they will even do so within a few weeks/months, so that it can be 2.49 instead of a later patch! Thank you guys!

/sarcasm off

Seriously: it's not that I don't want FH2 to become standalone, it's just that it isn't done in a wiffy. It takes a lot of work and time. There is maybe one guy in the devteam who can do it and he is busy doing a gazillion other things you guys also want in FH2. So please, be a bit more realistic.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hauggy on 03-08-2015, 16:08:37
Ok I'll be realistic and look forward for other things in life as this will not happen in a near future.
Anyway thanks for coming here ruining our hopes about this mod.
I will not mention standalone anymore, you won !
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 03-08-2015, 17:08:07
Ok I'll be realistic and look forward for other things in life as this will not happen in a near future.
Anyway thanks for coming here ruining our hopes about this mod.
I will not mention standalone anymore, you won !
cry louder, that will definately speed up the development, kid ;)

We are all aware of advantages of standalone here, repeating it constantly is only annoying. I can't wait for the next release, maybe I will even prepare a community friendly changelog so all of you will be able to easily read how many changes and fixes is being done be ONE person, so you will apreciate work  of our devs more instead of just demanding more and more, all the time
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 03-08-2015, 21:08:14
maybe I will even prepare a community friendly changelog so all of you will be able to easily read how many changes and fixes is being done be ONE person, 
Special thanks to Gavrant!!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 03-08-2015, 21:08:58
Ok I'll be realistic and look forward for other things in life as this will not happen in a near future.
Anyway thanks for coming here ruining our hopes about this mod.
I will not mention standalone anymore, you won !
Wow, how old are you? You come across like a little kid who lost at a children's game and now runs home crying.

Seriously: it's not about "winning", it's about having (tunnelview-like) expectations, which you call "our hopes about this mod", but aren't realistic atm. The fact that you say you will quit altogether because your wish is not gonna be realised within the next few weeks makes you a very impatient person in my eyes. You probably missed the whole fact that the devteam is right now at a ~4-5 guys strength, and some of them are not so active, as in not working their asses off 24/7 for FH2. They have lives too, you know.

And yes, when you expect those few people to rush out a standalone version of this mod, like it's just a copy-paste from PR, you are being (very) unrealistic.

Enjoy FH2, it's the best WWII shooter out there. Tell your friends about it and make them play it too. If they are too lazy to download a copy of BF2 and install the patches, then that's too bad. Then they will have to wait to have fun with this great mod.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 03-08-2015, 21:08:45
For all the impatient people here, I will just add, that FH2 development isn't as slow as many of you think it is. Also, FH2 is not a commercial title, and don't forget, you're not paying anybody for anything here, so any demands and rushing anybody is in my opinion, improper. FH2 dev team is a bunch of a dedicated guys who work on this game for fun, as their hobby and in their free time. Take look at the other WW2 games, like Traction Wars (of course it's not a mod but indie game, but it's not like they had to invent their own engine and start from the scratch) - it's being developed for almost 7 years now, and few days ago they announced that the first public version - Chapter One: OVERLORD will be released in 18-24 months, and I bet their dev team is much bigger than FH's.

Think about it next time when you will want to cry about FH2 not releasing what you want and when you want ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 03-08-2015, 21:08:28
Hauggy,use your free time you spend trowing shit-posts ( ;D) here,learn how code/model/map/sound/animate and become developer.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hauggy on 03-08-2015, 22:08:08
Wow you really need to calm down, I just had no idea this wasn't even possible at the moment or that was so complicated to achieve and i'm more impatient and enthousiast rather than crying for shit to be done ASAP, the thing is we are so kept in the dark that I find myself repeating the same stuff to obtain clear answers which I just got now along with sarcasm and insults, if I said that I wouldn't mention it anymore the reason is that it clearly seemed to bother you...
Thanks for the comments, I appreciate, you're at your best here being arrogant assholes like you know how to.
This mod is indeed great and I still love playing this old thing from time to time but I guess i'd better stay away from the forums and the ultra arrogant and full of themselves beta testers who already chased a bunch of nice persons away with their well written comments.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 03-08-2015, 22:08:26
Wow you really need to calm down, I just had no idea this wasn't even possible at the moment or that was so complicated to achieve and i'm more impatient and enthousiast rather than crying for shit to be done ASAP, the thing is we are so kept in the dark that I find myself repeating the same stuff to obtain clear answers which I just got now along with sarcasm and insults, if I said that I wouldn't mention it anymore the reason is that clearly seemed to bother you...
Thanks for the comments, I appreciate, you're at your best here being arrogant assholes like you know how to.
This mod is indeed great and I still love playing this old thing from time to time but I guess i'd better stay away from the forums and the ultra arrogant and full of themselves beta testers who already chased a bunch of nice persons away with their well written comments.

 I lol at this.

 Welcome to the worst PR (Public Relations) group in gaming history.


 ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 03-08-2015, 22:08:05
Could we talk about something else now, how's the Jackson turret Sherman (which everyone probably forgot about now) doing.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 03-08-2015, 22:08:05
A question doesn't bother anyone, but repeating it over and over again becomes annoying, don't you agree?

I'm sorry I wrote some sarcastic things, but you and others just keep at it, posting the same thing all over again. You are ignoring all the informative and reasonable stuff I and others wrote. It's not 100% sarcasm and insults coming your way, you can see that if you read the posts again. You can even go back in this same thread and read all the posts you wrote on the subject and the replies to them. Even in other threads you can see the same thing.

If two sarcastic remarks make me an ultra arrogant and full of himself betatester out of me, well, so be it. I just hope that you now know that it's not that the devs are lazy or don't want to do stuff, but that it is a shitload of work for very few people.

Enjoy FH2 and if you see me on the battlefield, just shoot me for this, OK?

@ Jimi: thanks for your useful reply, once again. We can always count on you, that's for sure. :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 03-08-2015, 22:08:03
FH2 development was always a 'secret', I understand it is frustrating for lots of people here, especially newer members who often look at FH2 through the prism of other games with regular updates and more insight into development process, or even better, public betas, but I suggest to learn a bit of the 'history' of the mod to find out how it always worked in the past, because it won't be changed if you will whine more about how you guys are kept in the dark, and threat others that FH2 is dying (that's a general statement, I'm not saying these are your words Hauggy but I'm frustrated of seeing people saying "the mod is dead!" everytime I play on public server).

You will never get clear answers here. Just look at Omaha Beach release example, there were some speculations about it, there were some hints about it being developed given, but that map was a huge surprise for many, as it was a secret for all the time untill it got officaly announced. We don't know if we gonna se FH2 standalone, maybe it will happen with 2.49, maybe with Eastern Front relase, maybe not at all and we can learn about it in a month, half a year or tomorrow.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hauggy on 03-08-2015, 22:08:35
Slayer, don't make me say that the devs are lazy because I don't think that.
I'm just very impatient, you know I'm not an old fuck yet (between 20 and 30 years old) and for me one or two years of waiting already seem like a lifetime, so excuse me if I repeat myself sometimes to try and get answers it's just that I cannot wait and I'm not a patient person in the first place...but trust me I'm working on it.
Thanks for the answer Jan, actually I have to say that I only started looking after the development process recently and not too regularly (when the Ardennes front was released and I missed the new Normandy maps release) and I did found it a bit frustrating, anyway thanks for your answer that really helped me to understand what to expect (surprises !). :)
No hard feelings, thanks for the answer and i'll see you guys on the battlefield !
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 03-08-2015, 22:08:57
Slayer, don't make me say that the devs are lazy because I don't think that.
No, I don't want to make you say that. It is just an example, and not out of the blue. In fact, this has been suggested or hinted at by several others in the past, that's why I was referring to it. I didn't mean to write it like you had ever said it.

I'm just very impatient, you know I'm not an old fuck yet (between 20 and 30 years old) and for me one or two years of waiting seem like a lifetime, so excuse me if I repeat myself sometimes to try and get answers it's just that I cannot wait and I'm not a patient person in the first place...but trust me I'm working on it.
Haha, nice to know I am an old fuck :) lol. Good move on the impatience thing, it's also helpful at other things than internet games ;)

No hard feelings, thanks for the answer and i'll see you guys on the battlefield !
Same here, thanks for your reply and now let's just shoot each other!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 04-08-2015, 02:08:48
Surprised this conversation ended civilly. This forum might be maturing ;)

Tbh I understand how you guys feel. I've been there for the long lulls in development. It's frustrating. Even the beta testers are itching to get you the new content, trust me :)

I suggest filling that update-less time with learning how to mod. Honestly, it A) gives you a better understanding of what's going on in development and B) you're learning something that might help us out one day.

And if you learn enough, you can always stop waiting for updates and create your own. That's what I started doing http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?topic=19770.0 (http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?topic=19770.0) :D

Learning animations or sound tweaks are all things that are needed by the dev team right now and independent enough to learn and test on your own. It takes patience but it's better than staring at the same font page all day :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Alakazou on 04-08-2015, 05:08:04
Surprised this conversation ended civilly. This forum might be maturing ;)

Yeah I would be happy if it happen. I'm tired to see quibble.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 04-08-2015, 11:08:55
Yeah I would be happy if it happen.
It already happened :)

On to more conspiracies/leaking/etc now:

Could we talk about something else now, how's the Jackson turret Sherman (which everyone probably forgot about now) doing.
What's the conspiracy in this, btw?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 09-08-2015, 06:08:03
I'm curious to hear what everyone thinks the devs have cooked up for the first Russian Release 8)

You've seen the maps officially announced:
Arad
Dukla
Sammatus

And the vehicles and weapons officially announced:
http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/fh2_vehicles.php?country=8 (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/fh2_vehicles.php?country=8)
http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/fh2_vehicles.php?country=5 (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/fh2_vehicles.php?country=5)
http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/fh2_weapons.php?country=8 (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/fh2_weapons.php?country=8)
http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/fh2_weapons.php?country=5 (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/fh2_weapons.php?country=5)

Based ont hat + allll the other stuff the devs have hinted at/leaked. I really wanna know what else the community thinks will be ready for the first Russian release. ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Tuco on 09-08-2015, 06:08:28
Manchuria maps with Japanese player models and full loadouts of course.  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kasztelan on 09-08-2015, 15:08:08
Based ont hat + allll the other stuff the devs have hinted at/leaked. I really wanna know what else the community thinks will be ready for the first Russian release. ;D

I guess Seelow Hights maybe Prokhorovka and Lenino. Probably Polish Army on East since they fought at Lenino. Some german last ditch weapons (VK-98, VG 1-5, Fliegerfaust) that are mentioned in changelog and will most likely appear on Seelow Heights. SU-85 and SU-100 (although they aren't mentioned in changelog, but I just hope they will appear ;P) IS-2, maybe some more planes like Jak-9, LA-7 or some late BF 109 versions.

But devs are surely have many more surprises for us so we'll definetly see some really cool stuff that no one expected ;p
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hauggy on 09-08-2015, 17:08:54
All of the above + a panzerwurfmine and hopefully the spokes on the 45mm gun fixed  8) :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzerwurfmine
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LazMan12 on 10-08-2015, 11:08:46
Maybe a ZiS-5 truck + quad Maxim AA version.
BTW is it possible to port the FH version of the truck or is it not good enough for FH2?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hauggy on 10-08-2015, 16:08:09
That probably won't happen as the first Russian front release should cover the middle/late war as far as I know.
Maybe you can expect some russian 85mm anti aircraft gun who knows.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 10-08-2015, 19:08:28
Maybe a ZiS-5 truck + quad Maxim AA version.
BTW is it possible to port the FH version of the truck or is it not good enough for FH2?
It is possible but I remember it being rather low quality model, so I hope it won't happen. We have plenty of US Lend-Lease Studebakers for Russian, don't worry ;)

Anyway, I demand real conspiracies, and less questions!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 10-08-2015, 21:08:23
When will we get Russian player models shown??? Ts4ever told before 1 year in one his post that they are finished.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 10-08-2015, 22:08:07
I suppose they might be shown with one of the "Road to Eastern Front" announcements... ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MATUSALEM on 10-08-2015, 22:08:03
Hi all!
As this is a "conpiracy" post, thats my bet:

DOGS
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 11-08-2015, 00:08:54
Well, maybe there are gonna be some d....

"AAAGGHH!"

*pffft*

*BOOM*
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Alubat on 11-08-2015, 00:08:08
I wonder if any player models faces look like this ?

(http://susers.thatsmyface.com/s/superzach2000/Vladmir_Putin_fg_bPKSHCuQPq.fg.front-thumbnail_ee292e8b.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 11-08-2015, 00:08:26
I think I've seen this face somewhere...

I wonder if we get new uniforms for Ostheer also! ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 11-08-2015, 01:08:13
Why would they have new uniforms?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hauggy on 11-08-2015, 04:08:16
I bet they are shirtless on a horse.  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 11-08-2015, 08:08:22
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Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MATUSALEM on 11-08-2015, 13:08:12
I heard dogs will be available only for SLs and will have comma rose voices worked on  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Also, the CPBs (Cat-propelled-bombs) will be available only in pacific maps  8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 11-08-2015, 16:08:03
I heard dogs will be available only for SLs and will have comma rose voices worked on  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Hey, I thought the deal was that you could do the commorose voices for them if you would NOT leak it on the pub forums...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MATUSALEM on 11-08-2015, 17:08:02
I just heard it somewhere, I'm just conspiracing  8) everything can and might change  ;D ;D
I'll keep my mouth closed about the new "Road to Doggy Front" B)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 11-08-2015, 18:08:25
Also, the CPBs (Cat-propelled-bombs) will be available only in pacific maps  8)
CPBs were scrapped because Pacific Front is not planned.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MATUSALEM on 11-08-2015, 20:08:59
That's what they want you to know  8) 8)  8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MATUSALEM on 22-08-2015, 21:08:10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSbdc39VlPY

It would be cool a map made for bike racing  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 22-08-2015, 21:08:23
I wish we could get an Allied counterpart for the BMW R75 motorbike, that would be cool.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 22-08-2015, 21:08:41
Are we going to see the Ferdinand in the next update or.. not? If so, please remember the proper optics:

 (http://i.imgur.com/BsCKWBE.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 23-08-2015, 22:08:02
New tank loadout for Gazala:
(http://i.imgur.com/BZSLvju.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 24-08-2015, 01:08:42
That's what we do with your tax payer money.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 24-08-2015, 11:08:34
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Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 24-08-2015, 17:08:02
This thread needs a bit more conspiracies. Can we have one of those small-image-guess-what-it-is games? Or a devblog would be nice but I guess that's too much to wish for.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 24-08-2015, 19:08:15
Yes,give us some pic(not small ;D)!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 25-08-2015, 01:08:27
Seems that we will have some maps located in Germany with the Eastern Front release. So, as a mapper I'm really curious if we get set of new static houses specific for Germany, like it was done for Ardennes release?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MATUSALEM on 25-08-2015, 17:08:40
New tank loadout for Gazala:
(http://i.imgur.com/BZSLvju.jpg)

I'm pretty sure that 80% of the axis armor will concentrate presence at the 105th Box flag  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 26-08-2015, 21:08:59
We'll just leave this here...

(http://i.imgur.com/52eWqte.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/xPqtCME.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MATUSALEM on 26-08-2015, 21:08:37
Aw man so awesome  8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Alubat on 26-08-2015, 22:08:06
Coool.

Is it possible to be the captain and sail the boat/ship across the river ?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Wulfburk on 27-08-2015, 02:08:56
What map is that?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 27-08-2015, 02:08:58
Pegasus Bridge
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MaJ.P.Bouras on 27-08-2015, 16:08:01
Hey i was there 2 weeks ago!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 31-08-2015, 00:08:27
Since EU didn't have time to post the news update today, I will take it on myself to leak tease some ingame shots of two weapons from our "Party like it's 1945" collection.

(http://i.imgur.com/nkdr0Hu.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/9zezfTL.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 31-08-2015, 07:08:19
Looking great!!!!Especially second pic!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 31-08-2015, 19:08:28
Do I see the sleeves of a new playermodel?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Alubat on 31-08-2015, 21:08:01
Cool  :)

The Road to the hidden gold train in Poland  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hauggy on 01-09-2015, 01:09:17
Nice to see, impatience is growing. :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 02-09-2015, 00:09:50
[FLIEGERFAUSTING INTENSIFIES]
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 16-09-2015, 10:09:42
I think next finnish map is battle of Portinhoikka,map that will include t-26 and t-50(fin).
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 19-09-2015, 03:09:25
 How much long must we wait for Pegasus...............



 :-*
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 19-09-2015, 04:09:41
How much long must we wait for Pegasus...............



 :-*
what if you're waiting for something else, not only Pegasus? You never know, it's FH2  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 19-09-2015, 04:09:59
Yes, we're full of surprises ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 19-09-2015, 08:09:00
He obviously only cares for Pegasus, which is fine, it is a nice map and hopefully worth the wait.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 19-09-2015, 18:09:14
I wonder if there will be any old(er) equipment in the supposed Berlin map... (?)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 19-09-2015, 19:09:36
Yes, we're full of surprises ;)

 Ive never seen that kitchen dinette set in your FH2 banner Rough....

 Is that some new furniture statics?



 BTW, if there is more that Pegasus, I think we are all willing to wait...


 ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 19-09-2015, 19:09:46
Those furniture statics are old, from 2.2 I believe.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 19-09-2015, 23:09:51
Yes but you Ts have nice banner. 1945 map,but which one?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 20-09-2015, 23:09:35
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Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 21-09-2015, 23:09:23
It would be nice to see finnish Morane-Saulnier(search finnish ace Lars-Hattienen)..
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LazMan12 on 23-09-2015, 10:09:34
It would be nice to see finnish Morane-Saulnier(search finnish ace Lars-Hattienen)..

That would be cool, I think FH2 had an unused MS406 model?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 23-09-2015, 18:09:15
isn't it an early war plane? it would be useless against russian planes on any of the continuation war maps
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 23-09-2015, 20:09:54
Yes but,finns also saw plane is usless so they upgrated them into awsome better plane as showned by finnish pilot Lars Hattienen.
Wikipedia:
Mörkö-Morane   
France sent 30 Morane-Saulnier to Finland, between 4 and 29 February 1940.[16] By 1943 the Finns had received an additional 46 M.S.406s and 11 M.S.410s purchased from the Germans. By this point, the fighters were hopelessly outdated, but the Finns were so desperate for serviceable aircraft that they decided to start a modification program to bring all of their examples to a new standard.

The aircraft designer Aarne Lakomaa turned the obsolete "M-S" into a first rate fighter, the Mörkö-Morane (Finnish for Bogey or Ogre Morane), sometimes referred to as the "LaGG-Morane". Powered by captured Klimov M-105P engines (a licensed version of the HS 12Y) of 820.3 kW (1,100 hp) with a fully adjustable propeller, the airframe required some local strengthening and also gained a new and more aerodynamic engine cowling. These changes boosted the speed to 525 kilometres per hour (326 mph). Other changes included a new oil cooler taken from the Bf 109, the use of four belt-fed guns like the M.S.410, and the excellent 20 mm (0.787 in) MG 151/20 cannon in the engine mounting. However, supplies of the MG 151 were limited, and several received captured 12.7 mm (0.500 in) Berezin UBS guns instead.

The first example of the modified fighter, MS-631, made its first flight on 25 January 1943, and the results were startling: the aircraft was 64 kilometres per hour (40 mph) faster than the original French version, and the service ceiling was increased from 10,000–12,000 metres (33,000–39,000 ft).[17]

Originally, it was planned to convert all the 41 remaining M.S.406s and M.S.410s with the Soviet engine, but it took time, and the first front-line aircraft of this type did not reach LeLv 28 until July/August 1944.[17] By the end of the Continuation War in 1944, only three examples had been converted (including the original prototype).[18] Lieutenant Lars Hattinen (an ace with six victories) scored three kills with the Mörkö-Morane, one with each Mörkö-Morane in the squadron. More fighters arrived from the factory, though, and the Mörkö-Moranes took part in the Lapland War as reconnaissance and ground attack aircraft. Not all the Mörkö-Morane conversions were completed before March 1945, when the entire re-engining programme was halted.[17] After the end of the war, the total was brought to 41, which served as advanced trainers with TLeLv 14 until September 1948. In 1952 all remaining Finnish Moranes were scrapped.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morane-Saulnier_M.S.406#/media/File:Morane-Saulnier..1.jpg
 

Now,It requires also new map but it would be totaly awsome and unique as FH2 is. It was used during Continua war but also trough Lapand war.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 23-09-2015, 20:09:40
Upgraded Saulnier's didnt get to participate in any major fighting (ie. ground battles you'd make a map out) during Continuation War as they were put to use too late and the war ended. I dont know how active would they been during the Lapland War because Finnish army was stripped down heavily and a lot of heavier equipment were not put into used. I could imagine that they were used just because finnish inventory was so diverse. But like I said, we'd need a battle during which they were involved, not just some aerial fight somewhere.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 04-10-2015, 00:10:45
Give as something! Old days when you could find secret devs pictures are gone :( :(
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 04-10-2015, 00:10:13
Like what?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 04-10-2015, 00:10:03
Screenshot from 1943 map/Ferdi
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 04-10-2015, 00:10:27
Can't do that cause I am not working on a map with the Ferdinand and I can't show other people's unannounced work.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 04-10-2015, 00:10:31
Crap. Then 1944 map,summer map in russia
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 04-10-2015, 00:10:47
Well I only have Ogledow in the summer of 1944 and that one won't be in the next release.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 04-10-2015, 00:10:49
Negotiations continue. Give us screen of finnish map
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 04-10-2015, 00:10:51
I don't work on any Finnish maps and Sammatus was already shown.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 04-10-2015, 00:10:08
Screen of map that has russian airplanes.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 04-10-2015, 00:10:07
Didn't you already see that when they showed the IL2 machinegun?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 04-10-2015, 00:10:19
Give other one.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 04-10-2015, 00:10:25
I also already showed Prokhorovka pics with planes.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 04-10-2015, 00:10:30
Yes,but only german main baze airport. Now give russian.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 04-10-2015, 00:10:26
Pretty sure that's just a random field, not much pr value.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 04-10-2015, 00:10:21
So you add airplanes,and whoila!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 04-10-2015, 00:10:28
Nah, not a very exciting leak. Also, weren't all the airplanes shown in the news anyway?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 04-10-2015, 00:10:13
Not for you exciting,but for us yes.Going out.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Wilhelm on 04-10-2015, 01:10:54
I will settle for a dev's dick pic
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 04-10-2015, 01:10:02
My screen aspect ratio isn't big enough for that.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Eat Uranium on 04-10-2015, 01:10:44
My screen aspect ratio isn't big enough for that.
You know, you can just type a zoom number in, you don't have to drag the slider all the way across your screen.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 04-10-2015, 01:10:52
Pretty sure dragging your "slider" all across the screen voids the warranty. Scratching etc.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 04-10-2015, 19:10:29
Crap. Then 1944 map,summer map in russia

Well, since there won't be proper news tonight and I already teased Ogledow in the bug hunting devblog, I guess I could leak some WIP screenshots of it. Just note that the map won't be in the first Russian release since it still needs some custom statics and I have other maps to finish up.
Also, it is not in Russia, but in Poland.

German mainbase in Niemscice:

(http://i.imgur.com/kZkP2OX.png)

Sniper nest in Ogledow village:

(http://i.imgur.com/9PsRI4F.png)

Antitank gun position in Ogledow village:

(http://i.imgur.com/JbM1LAL.png)

Russian trenches in orchard:

(http://i.imgur.com/hcB1Khg.png)

More antitank guns (notice a theme?):

(http://i.imgur.com/zkgo9ER.png)

MG nest near Staszow:

(http://i.imgur.com/7WMVTAO.png)

Destroyed bridge and Russian pontoons on the outskirts of Staszow:

(http://i.imgur.com/txrrTg7.png)

I haven't lightmapped the buildings yet, so it looks like shit, keep that in mind. Water doesn't have proper reflections either.
The map is based on the real area but slightly scaled (still huge though).

Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nucleorubro on 04-10-2015, 19:10:09
Superb! Even without lightmaps and such it looks masterfully done because you can see the main work being done!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 04-10-2015, 19:10:21
you can see the main work being done!

I wish
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: gamerjer on 04-10-2015, 19:10:46
Nice looks amazing! cant wait for the soviets ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst on 04-10-2015, 21:10:04
Nice ponton bridge! Love the details and how you can create all the unique looks of the maps!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 03-11-2015, 14:11:08
http://www.dawsonheritage.co.uk/td/murzuk.html
Uuuuu, nice map!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 03-11-2015, 15:11:12
So, the heaviest new arsenal will be the Katyusha and SU-152. But the Germans could have something new as well (besides the obscure s#¤t called 'Wurfrahmen auf Infanterie-Schlepper UE(f)') - maybe in the end kampf maps?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 03-11-2015, 15:11:52
Don't forget the Russian 122mm howitzer.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst on 03-11-2015, 17:11:11
Don't forget the german sIG 33 (150 mm)

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/imagesfh2/vehicles/15%20cm%20sIG%2033/big.jpg)

Edit: 150 mm I meant.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 03-11-2015, 17:11:05
That one won't be in the first Russian release though, or at least it's not planned.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 03-11-2015, 18:11:34
Looking good then  ;) any tweaks to the German AFVs/arms, other than cosmetic?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 03-11-2015, 18:11:18
You mean like balance changes? Not that I know off. Lots of 3p animation changes for crew members though.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 03-11-2015, 18:11:39
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Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 07-11-2015, 17:11:10
Quote
This coming Sunday, there will be a live stream in which Ts4EVER and FatJoe will be showing off some of the upcoming features for the next update. Although a lot of this has been covered in news posts or Devblogs, there is still a few new things to see.

We haven't had any proper conspiracies in here for a long time now and we have a dev life stream tomorrow, hece my question. What do you expect to see during the stream?  :)

Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 07-11-2015, 17:11:52
I dont know really, is it stuff that we saw in previous updates or completely unseen stuff?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 07-11-2015, 17:11:04
That one won't be in the first Russian release though, or at least it's not planned.

Will it be at least in the mapping files?  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 07-11-2015, 18:11:37
That one won't be in the first Russian release though, or at least it's not planned.

Will it be at least in the mapping files?  ;)
Unfortunately no, because there are few issues with the moddel (in game, not on the render), which AFAIK gonna be fixed after the first russian release. Or maybe devs will forget about it and release it unfinished and bugged by mistake. It wouldn't be the first time they would release unfinished vehicle, like the american heavy tank which can be found in the files  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 07-11-2015, 18:11:10
We haven't had any proper conspiracies in here for a long time now and we have a dev life stream tomorrow, hece my question. What do you expect to see during the stream?  :)
Perhaps another Normandy/France map? Or if we're still focused on Pegasus, maybe the Germans will also have a Pzkpfw 38H 735(f) with wurfgerat rockets?

...or maybe its a little taste of one of the Eastern Front maps.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LazMan12 on 07-11-2015, 20:11:39
I'm wondering if the SU 152 will be able to do serious damage to Tigers and Panthers with its massive HE shells, like it used to in reality, or maybe it could wound or kill the crew, without destroying the tank 100%, though there are some practical problems with implementing this...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 07-11-2015, 21:11:17
It is not called beast slayer for nothing.  That thing wrecks Tiger II's too. :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 07-11-2015, 22:11:41
Something new in stream....Probably british No.84 granate or something like that that british paratroper used.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 08-11-2015, 02:11:12
Something new in stream.[...]

Something new? Well, yes.. :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 08-11-2015, 10:11:11
Something new in stream.[...]

Something new? Well, yes.. :)
I think there will be at least few new things for everybody, and quite a lot of surprises for community members who don't follow topics like this one on regular basis. Stream will be definitely worth watching, just don't be late guys, and don't miss anything! Cya at 19:00 UTC today!!  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Alubat on 08-11-2015, 11:11:58
Some of the best maps in this game only have 64p layout, which only makes them fun to play in prime time

What about 16-32p layout of St Vith, Huntgen forest etc. ?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 08-11-2015, 13:11:34
Some of the best maps in this game only have 64p layout, which only makes them fun to play in prime time

What about 16-32p layout of St Vith, Huntgen forest etc. ?
Oh come on, if you have any particular ideas about the maps layers, please post about them in the correct topics in the map feedback, or at least in a suggestions section. I do agree that we lack the small layers of some really good maps, and it's a shame.

But back to the topic: let's dig some olders conspiracies, which one of them do you expect to see live in action today?  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 08-11-2015, 14:11:45
Maus! (oh damn, I actually said it)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 08-11-2015, 14:11:52
I bet one of the Eastern Front maps will be showed. Maybe with some not yet announced vehicles like IS-2 or Jagdtiger  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 08-11-2015, 16:11:52
Any more guesses on what will be revealed today? :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 08-11-2015, 17:11:48
These are all pretty bold ;D

Just remember that EU said
The stream will only cover stuff in the next release.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 08-11-2015, 17:11:28
I am really suspicious about France 1940... But that's just a wild guess.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 08-11-2015, 18:11:35
I am really suspicious about France 1940... But that's just a wild guess.

I also had a hunch on this, but its probably too good to be true.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 08-11-2015, 18:11:11
These are all pretty bold ;D

Just remember that EU said
The stream will only cover stuff in the next release.

Hmm... So maybe a new, not yet announced map? I suppose, most what could have been said about Pegasus was said and I think devs will rather try to show us sth completely new. And I don't think it will be only Pegasus as a map in the next update, however in the past there were updates with only one map...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mudzin on 08-11-2015, 20:11:14
These are all pretty bold ;D

Just remember that EU said
The stream will only cover stuff in the next release.

Liers... As always...  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 08-11-2015, 21:11:17
Lies? what EU said was true ;) Russians will be in next release
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 08-11-2015, 21:11:14
well, devs didn't lie to anybody, there was a plan to release 2.49 without Eastern Front, but plans had changed ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Mattitatti on 08-11-2015, 23:11:37
Nice to see we`ll also get the first eastern front maps but somehow I`m worried about the future of FH2 because they just suddenly decided to give us all at the same time which hasn`t been the trend before. Well maybe it`s just my imagination...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 09-11-2015, 00:11:02
Naw, we're still full of ideas for the future. :)

Don't worry!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 09-11-2015, 00:11:42
Nice to see we`ll also get the first eastern front maps but somehow I`m worried about the future of FH2 because they just suddenly decided to give us all at the same time which hasn`t been the trend before. Well maybe it`s just my imagination...
wasn't it the case with the first Normandy release as well? I think it's the best way to add a new front to the mod. Btw, it's far from giving you all, there's plenty of things for future releases ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 09-11-2015, 00:11:44
This is the biggest content update since the Normandy release, yeah. 2.2 added one new faction back then, 2.5 will add 2. The new American faction had 3 maps initially, Russians will have 4. I like these numbers :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 09-11-2015, 01:11:48
just to spice it up a bit: future Eastern Front releases might add even more factions to FH2! ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 09-11-2015, 03:11:23
Oh wow, we're getting the Finns too, right?  So cool!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 09-11-2015, 04:11:03
Finns, Russians, British Paratroopers, new Australians 8)

2.5 is the biggest FH2 release that I can remember. 
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 09-11-2015, 14:11:39
Oh wow, we're getting the Finns too, right?  So cool!

As if this was a surprise if you follow news. Sammatus was in the news quite some time ago so that shouldnt be a thing you didnt see coming a mile away.  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 09-11-2015, 14:11:04
Forgive my flippant Finnish forgetfulness Flippy.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 09-11-2015, 14:11:06
Apology accepted Captain Shark.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hauggy on 09-11-2015, 15:11:38
just to spice it up a bit: future Eastern Front releases might add even more factions to FH2! ;)
I place my bet on Hungarians.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Wulfburk on 09-11-2015, 16:11:47
And standalone? When will it happen my little locusts?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 09-11-2015, 23:11:09
 This is exciting news indeed, but there is 1 thing that is needed to make this a truly epic release......




                                                                       FH2 v2.50 STANDALONE



 8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 10-11-2015, 00:11:57
One step at a time, Jimi.  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 10-11-2015, 00:11:05
Well guys, you finally saw this static in full glory in the stream :D

(http://i.imgur.com/MouTiDX.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FORGOTTENKEVINOHOPE on 10-11-2015, 02:11:11
yes, we also know now, not to stand at the open end  or we will get  blown up by a tank!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 10-11-2015, 15:11:02
There is also a static Flak 88 covering that end.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Alubat on 10-11-2015, 16:11:24
just to spice it up a bit: future Eastern Front releases might add even more factions to FH2! ;)
I place my bet on Hungarians.

Would love to see The Cossack Volunteers in game :-)
(https://axis101.bizland.com/CossackVolColl2.jpg)


Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Alubat on 10-11-2015, 16:11:17
Well guys, you finally saw this static in full glory in the stream :D

(http://i.imgur.com/MouTiDX.jpg)

One of the most awesome buildings since the desert trainstation
reminds me of the buildings with flag positions in stalingrad map bf1942
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: colores on 10-11-2015, 18:11:05
First of all, the new version seems to be incredible. Years of work of the development team in a mod that keeps improving, giving to an audience that likes the topic of the Second World War a realistic, challenging and fun game.

This is exciting news indeed, but there is 1 thing that is needed to make this a truly epic release......



FH2 v2.50 STANDALONE


 8)

Yes, I think that a release with new maps, factions, etc is not enough for achieve 2-3 full servers as can you could see some years ago. I see with great sadness that a game with lot (LOT!) of work, awesomely detailed and made with great effort have empty servers or close to in almost any time or day. New contents are welcomed, but we need more players and new generations of players are not be accustomed to install a very old game, patch it with updates then go to download torrent, install and learn to play a new (and hard) game. It's too much effort to try something that may not like it.
Standalone makes it easier the "test" to an audience that not knows the game or have doubts, because in few minutes they can be playing and giving a chance.

I would see this release with all the "pepper" on the roast, after all, servers are dead, only one have some players in specific days and times. Legal troubles could be a problem and could push to undo the standalone idea, but now it is the most important thing. What good is having the best game if I dont have anyone for play?
I think that now is the moment for "all or nothing" for resurrect the better mod of all times.

It's just an opinion.

And thank again to devel team, you work is very appreciated!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 10-11-2015, 23:11:08
Well guys, you finally saw this static in full glory in the stream :D

(http://i.imgur.com/MouTiDX.jpg)
Yea ,Fred made awsome building.And will in future ;D Cant wait to hide in it and fight fith my STG44 8). Also who is new sound developer(finaly)?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 10-11-2015, 23:11:22
HybridV. He made lots of new sounds already (some tank sounds also done by Kubador).
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 10-11-2015, 23:11:25
And did you think then about that bug about sounds of airplanes in distances(someone mentioned)?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Leopardi on 12-11-2015, 09:11:24
And did you think then about that bug about sounds of airplanes in distances(someone mentioned)?
Don't get your hopes up on that one, likely not getting fixed.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 16-11-2015, 21:11:59
I'm still unsure if this map was Kuuterselka Sammatus or still an unannounced map.

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/news/121216/stream.jpg)
(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/news/121216/stug.jpg)

Can't believe these pictures surfaced almost three years ago!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 16-11-2015, 21:11:49
It is indeed Sammatus, back then Kuuterselkä.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 17-11-2015, 00:11:49
Even though it's not in the map... I hope someone will forget that Sturmi there, in the game files.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 17-11-2015, 00:11:24
Thanks for reminding me! *puts ignore.txt in*
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 17-11-2015, 14:11:17
Thanks for reminding me! *puts ignore.txt in*

Ah damn, you just hate me
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Rabbit032 on 23-11-2015, 17:11:20
Not so much a conspiracy but a dream, 280mm on Seelow.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LazMan12 on 25-11-2015, 15:11:26
Maybe we'll see hungarians in some of the next updates. It was hinted in the stream that aserafimov is working on another faction(map?) and Hungary is a good guess I think, since we now have EF and USSR. Hungary was requested and discussed a lot from the community(won a minor factions poll?) and there is an unfinished mod that actually has some great new content. Romania and Italy are also posssible, but less likely in my opinion. I'm quite exited about it :D  What do you guys think?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 25-11-2015, 15:11:30
Italy wouldn't be a "new" faction of course.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LazMan12 on 25-11-2015, 17:11:49
 ^True! So Hungary is even more likely ;)
To me it seemed strange that there wasn't a lot of noise on this topic in the forums after the devstream...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 25-11-2015, 19:11:00
Maybe many people already figured it out?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Alubat on 25-11-2015, 21:11:05
In Dev stream at 10:17  Ts4EVER "Do I have a beard ?"

Please show a pic of the beard  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 26-11-2015, 10:11:36
It would be nice if we could see the other Finnish helmets along with the beard.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 27-11-2015, 10:11:35
^True! So Hungary is even more likely ;)
To me it seemed strange that there wasn't a lot of noise on this topic in the forums after the devstream...
No Hungary, FRENCHIES are coming!!!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 27-11-2015, 10:11:02
 :o

 :)

 ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LazMan12 on 30-11-2015, 22:11:02
Cool, my probing and poking around gave some interesting results  ::)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 01-12-2015, 14:12:46
Cool, my probing and poking around gave some interesting results  ::)
Which one? Can you show them(not some old changelogs or some post on this forum)?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LazMan12 on 01-12-2015, 18:12:09
Oh no, sorry to mislead you man, I just ment probing the public and staff opinion on the forums. Like, for instance, I had some suspitions concerning France, but thought they are unfounded and now it is changed  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 01-12-2015, 19:12:22
Oh,get it. Continue your work ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 05-12-2015, 21:12:58
What an acid trip (http://s15.postimg.org/6pz8lbkln/453532.png)...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 06-12-2015, 09:12:35
That is obviously a minimap. But what map?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 06-12-2015, 12:12:17
...what map?
I hope you don't expect him to answer that question, do you? It's a conspiracies thread, let the guessing game begin!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 06-12-2015, 19:12:43
I wonder I wonder. Hmm hmm hmm.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Viikkasota on 06-12-2015, 20:12:32
Well today is Finland's independence day. Maybe it might be related to Finland.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 06-12-2015, 20:12:41
And Im Finnish. The plot thickens.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 06-12-2015, 21:12:49
Operaatio Tanne Ost!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: GeoPat on 06-12-2015, 21:12:36
That is not a minimap.  That is some kind of texture map.  It appears that the roads have the same texture as most of the ground.  Mud maybe or snow.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 07-12-2015, 08:12:15
Mud, snow... both good ideas. Dirt, sand or water maybe?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst on 07-12-2015, 08:12:31
Colour coded height map?  The dots look like artillery craters.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Alubat on 07-12-2015, 10:12:03
I think the dots look like trees
Could be nice with a Lapland map : Finland vs Germany
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 07-12-2015, 11:12:16
Could be nice with a Lapland map : Finland vs Germany

That would be nice indeed.  :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Viikkasota on 07-12-2015, 14:12:53
If the solid red part is land, the picture might be from Karelian isthmus around St. Petersburg/Leningrad.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 07-12-2015, 14:12:05
Well that's not a broad assumption at all.  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: GeoPat on 07-12-2015, 17:12:12
Colour coded height map?  The dots look like artillery craters.

The bottoms of craters have a different texture than the surrounding ground.  The green is snow the red is mud or dirt.  The snow is probably on the high ground.  All the squiggly lines are roads or paths.  Looks fun!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 07-12-2015, 17:12:29
Interesting theory.

But I do wonder if this (http://s8.postimg.org/8k5m20ohg/screen045.jpg) is winter after all?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 07-12-2015, 22:12:30
Perhaps you made your own rendition of Kuuterselka? Since those Finnish Sturmis don't have a map for them yet.  :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 07-12-2015, 22:12:07
That is a great guess but Kuuterselkä wasnt the only battle the Sturmi's were used in. Dont forget that the Continuation War went on from 1941 until 1944 and on multiple fronts ranging from Lapland, Rukajärvi and down to Leningrad and Karelian fronts. I can reveal that this is a battle in which the Sturmi's did not participate in. Remember that early war Finnish front is as doable as the late war front. ;)

But lets make one point across, I wont be revealing it. Not yet. This is a conspiracy thread after all.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 08-12-2015, 05:12:49
I have to say it's a fun map, no doubt. :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 08-12-2015, 18:12:53
I have to say it's a fun map, no doubt. :)
I think it gonna be one of my favourite FH2 maps of all time. It will be definately a map on which everybody will find something fun for him :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: LazMan12 on 08-12-2015, 22:12:58
Well, the map couldn't be earlier than late 1942, since the KV-1S we can see in the leaked screenshot was first produced in August that year(unless it's a placeholder for an earlier KV modification?), though that could mean it's 1943, if it's a non-winter map as Flippy hinted (which is also backed by the current lack of winter uniforms ingame), because they(KV-1S) probably didn't reach the frontlines until later that year when it was pretty cold up north. But probably someone with greater knowlege of that front could pin the battle more exactly. Anyone ::)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 08-12-2015, 22:12:34
Kind of reminds me of this FH1 custom map:

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/images/custommaps/Tali-Ihantala/91%20-%20Tali3.jpg)

  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 08-12-2015, 23:12:40
Blast from the past. I was helping Taichi make that map back then but he did do most of the job. It did inspire me to try BF42 mapping. Was a fun experience.  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 11-12-2015, 13:12:27
Fun and small map..  maybe the JR 50's legendary encounter with the KV-1 in Salla, August 1941? Or perhaps River Syväri /Svir in April, 1942?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 11-12-2015, 14:12:40
Wasnt it the KV-2 at Salla?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 11-12-2015, 15:12:28
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Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 12-12-2015, 15:12:26
Maybe that is battle for Grenadier Hill?(Part of Tanneberg line) I see lots of craters..
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Krätzer on 01-01-2016, 21:01:31
(http://media.moddb.com/images/members/1/451/450334/trollKopie-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 02-01-2016, 10:01:25
Nice one  ;) I saw there is this in files!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 02-01-2016, 17:01:28
Devs - Hummel and Hornisse, are these vehicles out of question in the FH2?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 02-01-2016, 22:01:33
Why would it be "out of the question?" If we can make marders and wespes we could make those. Depends on if a dev wants to.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 03-01-2016, 00:01:48
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Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 03-01-2016, 00:01:01
Ferdinand won't be in 2.5 sadly cause there is not map for it. It is planned for 2.51.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 03-01-2016, 13:01:22
Ferdinand won't be in 2.5 sadly cause there is not map for it. It is planned for 2.51.

Just wondering, is it going to use the same sound files as in FH1?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Klimax on 03-01-2016, 23:01:30
do you remember the request from b1942 which sounds like "CSRAAAP fordere unterstützung durch truppentransporter!!!!!"?
please implement it to the request of transport on the german side PLEASE!!!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst_Kroenen on 04-01-2016, 09:01:08
Speaking of SPGs it would be nice to see the third variant of the Marder III - Ausf H in the game.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst on 04-01-2016, 09:01:27
You mean this one?

(http://media.moddb.com/images/mods/1/6/5480/MarderIIIM.jpg)

It can be found on Ramelle, as well as Gold Beach.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 04-01-2016, 10:01:55
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Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst_Kroenen on 04-01-2016, 12:01:04
My bad i mean Ausf H. Its my favorite variant of the marder 3. Like this one:
(http://www.clash-of-steel.co.uk/gallery_images/full/WnW_marder1.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst on 04-01-2016, 17:01:10
But isn't that also ingame? The Ausf. H has still the original chassis of the Pz38(t) with the Besa MG. Or is there something more I am missing?

This Version is ingame; you can find it on many Afrika Maps.

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/imagesfh2/vehicles/SdKfz%20139%20Marder%20III/big.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst_Kroenen on 04-01-2016, 19:01:16
I know which models are in the game. But they are not the same. The ausf H is different.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Seth_Soldier on 04-01-2016, 20:01:17
We doesn't have a map for the Ausf. H Serie 3 afaik
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst_Kroenen on 04-01-2016, 22:01:50
Yep i thought that had something to do with it. Well i have my fingers crossed hoping to see it ingame one day   ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Krätzer on 05-01-2016, 20:01:21
In the movie they used the Ausf. H next to the Ausf. M. I did the Ausf. M for Ramelle, and wanted to do the Ausf. H too. My target was to add all the Movie Tanks for the Germans.
But i had´t the time, and was happy that i´ve got the Ausf. M done.

Thats Ausf. M
(http://www.sproe.com/images/screenshots/marder3-04-large.jpg)

This is the missing Ausf. H
Tbh. it´s an Sav m/43, just to simulate an Ausf. H
(http://www.sproe.com/images/screenshots/tankdestroyer-02-large.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst_Kroenen on 05-01-2016, 22:01:07
Tbh. it´s an Sav m/43, just to simulate an Ausf. H
(http://www.sproe.com/images/screenshots/tankdestroyer-02-large.jpg)

I didnt know that. Sav m/43? Thats an interesting vehicle but doesnt look much like the ausf H. Anyway i watched that movie so long ago that i dont remember what was what in it  ;D and thanks for ausf M its really nice
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 08-02-2016, 23:02:06
Okay. Ihantala, Lenino, Prokhorovka, Ogledow didn't make the cut. And that "add new project". Wait, "junowall fixes"?

Where would they use Cromwell MkVI?

Polish faction still being trolled (Western or Eastern front?).

"Strike another blow against cowardly counterrevolutionaries". It's a vehicle.

Floppy Weirdbear ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Zari on 09-02-2016, 16:02:19
Polish forces (under Red Army) was fighting under Lenino, so probably Eastern Front.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 09-02-2016, 16:02:49
Where would they use Cromwell MkVI?

It is on Totalize, isnt it? Thats the 95mm version of it, no?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 09-02-2016, 16:02:15
Polish forces (under Red Army) was fighting under Lenino, so probably Eastern Front.
They also fought in Normandy, and were equipped with mostly British weapon (if Call of Duty 3 is anything to go by), so that might be likely too, no? Mont Ormel?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hill_262
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Zari on 09-02-2016, 17:02:50
Of course, you're totally right, but I wanted to link Lenino map with mentioned Polish faction.  :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 09-02-2016, 17:02:55
Where would they use Cromwell MkVI?
It is on Totalize, isnt it? Thats the 95mm version of it, no?
Must have confused it with MkIV then :|
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst on 09-02-2016, 17:02:15
100+ Ihantala update

Troll level - warbear

Edit: spelling of ihantala corrected, before flippy wields the banhammer on me for inexcusuable insult of finland.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: hitm4k3r on 09-02-2016, 18:02:57
Dammit. As Gavrant predicted, they spottet the hundreds of Ihantala updaes  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 17-02-2016, 01:02:30
you can use them on El Alamein  ::)
...That said, I still think an all-plane map would be cool  :)

To quote a good buddy: if the planetary constellations allow it, there is a good chance of some airplane focused combat in the future of Forgotten Hope 2. So pray to the FH2 gods  :P
What do you think: Battle of Britian or Malta?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 17-02-2016, 03:02:39
What do you think: Battle of Britian or Malta?

An Operation Pedestal map would be cool, but that would take a lot of new assets to model.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Wilhelm on 17-02-2016, 16:02:55
I'd really like to see the Supplies for Malta map get revamped and included in the mod.  The supply objective was really cool and it would be a good map for just naval and air assets! ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 18-02-2016, 11:02:45
What do you think: Battle of Britian or Malta?

An Operation Pedestal map would be cool, but that would take a lot of new assets to model.
Not operation pedestal, but operation Harpoon 1942. Why? It would need less asets to make. Here
ITALIANS
1Cruiser (need to make)
2 destroyers(only one type of destroyers need to make)
4SM 79 (need to make)
1 BF109
2Ju87
4MC 200
3MC202
1Radiek2001(need to make)
3CANT1007(or any other medium bomber,need to make)
All in all: 51 places for players,even with 40 players on one side is enough

BRITS
1Carrier(dont know if you have allready some)-2 Swordfish and 3 Hurricane
1Battleship( not nessesary)
2 cruisers(one type of it,need to make)
3destroyers(2 type of it- not nessesary,need to make)
1US Tanker(i thinks liberty ship that fh2 has can do the purpose)
2Merchant ships(fh2 has some)
3Hurricanes
3 Spitfires
1Brestol beautifighter
2 Fearly Formid(need to make)
All in all: 58 places,maybe battleship should go out and then is also 51 place

Cruiser-6 places
Destroyer- 5 places
Merchan ship-2 place( driver is gunner when he press X)
US tanker-3 places(same as merchant but has one more AA)
Battleship-7 places
Carrier- has AAs
SM 79-3 places(driver and two mashinegunners)
CANT1007-3 places( same as SM 79)

Italian would have advantage in bombers,and Brits in fighters.

Still,this is HUGE ammount of work for one map,and beside this map this assets could be used only one some more Malta maps and Meditterian,1-2 maps in Africa and Battles in Italy(1943-1944). Disscus if Im wrong with informations above.

EDIT: Probably map-land would such and should be without any overgrowth as there would be lot of vehlichles.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 18-02-2016, 11:02:18
you're a funny guy, you've just requested several ships and planes to be modelled, considering the fact that FH2 has only one destroyer and probably none of the above can be even ported from FH1 or anything else, well... you can forget about it  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: hitm4k3r on 18-02-2016, 15:02:42
Is this the Conspiracy thread or the Utopia thread?  ;D

Seriously, don't get your hopes up for Malta, BoB, Operation Pedestal nor Operation Harpoon. Stuff like that is in the CMP allready and does the job. Despite the fact that other nations had pretty damn good, if not the best fighter pilots aswell.  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 18-02-2016, 23:02:55
Ooooo,you finished He111 model!! Its so cool!
EDIT Fake
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 18-02-2016, 23:02:06
Ooooo,you finished He111 model!! Its so cool!

Can you fly it?  :o
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 19-02-2016, 00:02:19
Not finished,updated. Yes now you can fly, interior is made,texture and it has torpedos. Wreck isnt finished as I see.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 19-02-2016, 23:02:47
Here it is,but I cant choose him in editor. Devs moved He111 and Hs129 from objects I think..Well,until 2.5 update there was it in objects and here was that old yellow broken He111. After I decided to play map after 2.5, here was this He111. Maybe Im wrong,maybe there was some He111 inside map folder...
(http://i.imgur.com/NeikFYE.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/YaGd7fd.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/mh2BOen.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/ASNYDaJ.jpg)

Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 19-02-2016, 23:02:16
Pretty sure that is from the cmp minimod.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 19-02-2016, 23:02:58
Really? Sorry guys. And did you removed He111 and Hs129 from objects?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 19-02-2016, 23:02:17
In my svn copy of FH2 they both are marked with "betaignore", which means they don't get packed into the public version. You wouldn't believe what else is in that folder btw ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MaJ.P.Bouras on 20-02-2016, 20:02:13
In my svn copy of FH2 they both are marked with "betaignore", which means they don't get packed into the public version. You wouldn't believe what else is in that folder btw ;)

Try us.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nadvgia on 23-02-2016, 23:02:56
Here it is,but I cant choose him in editor. Devs moved He111 and Hs129 from objects I think..Well,until 2.5 update there was it in objects and here was that old yellow broken He111. After I decided to play map after 2.5, here was this He111. Maybe Im wrong,maybe there was some He111 inside map folder...
(http://i.imgur.com/NeikFYE.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/YaGd7fd.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/mh2BOen.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/ASNYDaJ.jpg)

Damn, how did i miss that one?! Nice skins  8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Stubbfan on 24-02-2016, 08:02:22
That the fh1 port that was made long ago and was in the first event of malta. It was replaced last fh2 release by an unfinished model that happened to be included, but now when we took that away again this re-appeared on the map. CMP on the other hand has a newer and better looking one from clivewil.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 24-02-2016, 15:02:44
That the fh1 port that was made long ago and was in the first event of malta. It was replaced last fh2 release by an unfinished model that happened to be included, but now when we took that away again this re-appeared on the map. CMP on the other hand has a newer and better looking one from clivewil.
Thank you on explenation
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hjaldrgud on 24-02-2016, 19:02:06
You wouldn't believe what else is in that folder btw ;)

Maus confirmed. You all heard it here first, folks.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: AverageAlien on 24-02-2016, 20:02:53
You wouldn't believe what else is in that folder btw ;)

Maus confirmed. You all heard it here first, folks.
I would actually love to play a map with Maus but then again the history says it got blown up by it's own crew so that soviet's couldnt take it.. well they still did
 :(
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 24-02-2016, 21:02:26
Quote
I would actually love to play a map with Maus but then again the history says it got blown up by it's own crew so that soviet's couldnt take it.. well they still did

Ditto. This could be loosely based upon the Soviet forces' takeover of Kummersdorf. There are various, mixed reports on what really happened:

"In late 1944, a unit was formed, and at a meeting in the Fuhrer's headquarters it was referred to as tank company "Kummersdorf". This unit consisted of three tank platoons (mostly still mobile), one recon platoon of armored vehicles, an infantry (Grenadier) platoon and one tank platoon, consisting of a Tiger II, a single Jagdtiger heavy tank destroyer two American Shermans, the Carro Armato P 40 Heavy Tank and several Borgward IVs armed with machine guns. According to a Telex on April 4, 1945, at least part of a tank company should have been transferred to the district of Dresden.
Non-mobile equipment, including a VK 4501 (P) took part in combat south-east of Kummersdorf, where they and workers, civilians and other people at the facility were thrown together to make a makeshift grenadier unit. By the battles end, the VK 4501 (P) had destroyed a single T-34 and the Grenadiers had destroyed several others, a nearby 88 mm (8.8 cm) flak gun destroyed another advancing T-34. The entire unit failed in their mission and dispersed into the nearby woods."
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: AverageAlien on 24-02-2016, 22:02:37
Quote
I would actually love to play a map with Maus but then again the history says it got blown up by it's own crew so that soviet's couldnt take it.. well they still did

Ditto. This could be loosely based upon the Soviet forces' takeover of Kummersdorf. There are various, mixed reports on what really happened:

"In late 1944, a unit was formed, and at a meeting in the Fuhrer's headquarters it was referred to as tank company "Kummersdorf". This unit consisted of three tank platoons (mostly still mobile), one recon platoon of armored vehicles, an infantry (Grenadier) platoon and one tank platoon, consisting of a Tiger II, a single Jagdtiger heavy tank destroyer two American Shermans, the Carro Armato P 40 Heavy Tank and several Borgward IVs armed with machine guns. According to a Telex on April 4, 1945, at least part of a tank company should have been transferred to the district of Dresden.
Non-mobile equipment, including a VK 4501 (P) took part in combat south-east of Kummersdorf, where they and workers, civilians and other people at the facility were thrown together to make a makeshift grenadier unit. By the battles end, the VK 4501 (P) had destroyed a single T-34 and the Grenadiers had destroyed several others, a nearby 88 mm (8.8 cm) flak gun destroyed another advancing T-34. The entire unit failed in their mission and dispersed into the nearby woods."

So it's actually possible to have a map with Maus (albeit without 100% historical accuracy)?
Though on the other hand devs need to make a vehicle just for one map then, doubt that would happen  :-\
unless what was said before is true and they have a hidden maus somewhere in game files
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: ajappat on 24-02-2016, 22:02:56
Well we do have ramelle with fake US uniforms so I guess everything is possible.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 24-02-2016, 22:02:14
Quote
So it's actually possible to have a map with Maus (albeit without 100% historical accuracy)?
Though on the other hand devs need to make a vehicle just for one map then, doubt that would happen  :-\
unless what was said before is true and they have a hidden maus somewhere in game files

Right, it wouldn't be historically significant.. but then again our developers never cease to amaze. It could be a map just for fun, with ad-hoc tanks and some type of facility suitable for close-quarters combat.

A couple years back someone posted pictures of Jagdtiger that was imported from FH1, and it looked quite gnarly... To match the one at Kummersdorf, it would just need to be plain dunkelgelb with balkenkreuz + zimmerit. Just an idea, if we couldn't have Maus - it would still have the same weapon with 10x Winkelzielfernrohr 2/1 sight, but still the side armor could be penetrated even by the T-34/85.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 24-02-2016, 23:02:07
Well we do have ramelle with fake US uniforms so I guess everything is possible.
it's just a simple reskin, not a new model, like a tank, so don't give people false hopes...

Also:
>2016
>People still think they might see Maus in FH2

 ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 15-03-2016, 22:03:23
It seems that aserafimov is now dev(or some time).. I can see that now his profile is developr! Im waiting some super detailed maps as he knows to do
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst on 15-03-2016, 22:03:13
Today i searched for the documentary series 'greatest raids of ww2', because i wanted to look at all the fh2/ro2 models in it. As most of you remember that was the series, which featured a lot of fh2 models and 3d animation in the red orchestra/rising storm engine.

Watching the first episode had a nice looking (and familiar) model of the pegasus bridge and the cafe and the gliders and so. And this was before Pegasus was confirmed as a map. I remember the nice looking sas jeeps in the 3rd episode.

But, what made me really wondering was the last episode, which feature a very nice model of the ludendorff bridge (bridge of remagen). I wonder, who did that particular model and where it could have ended up...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 19-03-2016, 02:03:13
When will we see Prokhorovka?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Wilhelm on 19-03-2016, 02:03:15
When will we see Prokhorovka?

Who is the resident dreamcrusher? Ts4EVER?  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: hitm4k3r on 19-03-2016, 13:03:17
When will we see Prokhorovka?

When will I see good ol' Jimmy apply for a job as a mapper to finish Prok?  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: McCloskey on 19-03-2016, 21:03:19
When will we see Prokhorovka?

Who is the resident dreamcrusher? Ts4EVER?  ;)

As if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 19-03-2016, 23:03:57
 Hey, i didnt make a dev blog about the map..........

im just a fan asshole......lol


 8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 12-04-2016, 23:04:57
This thread got dusty...
Anyway,look at maybe new Kar98 animation!! Really love how he sprints- like carrying gun in one hand! :D
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=guR63N7p8_k

Also this guy
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9HcMOnIDwZY
Not really something different or new..
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: McCloskey on 13-04-2016, 13:04:09
This thread got dusty...
Really love how he sprints- like carrying gun in one hand! :D

1p animations are one thing, but the 3p animations.. damn, THAT would be truly sweet (and increasing immersion factor x1000)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Zoologic on 14-04-2016, 05:04:38
Those who understand it will love it.

Those who didn't, will be like when FH2 released Normandy maps. "Why Ami's uniform not tan and brown? This is stupid, not realistic." Hollywood dictates the reality for some people.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 14-04-2016, 05:04:15
It's surprising how many games show the BAR as having a 'single shot' selection.

I like the PR animation the best. It's just weird how he 'pushes' the charging handle forward when he doesn't have to.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 14-04-2016, 10:04:45
Well,as you can see,it is -as we know- 1p animation. But that is also better than not seeing carring gun in one hand at all
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 02-05-2016, 21:05:31
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LpDia14AZNY

Look at this!  ;D I hope it is 3p too
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 22-05-2016, 13:05:31
(http://i.imgur.com/MxqbPVw.png)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 17-06-2016, 11:06:30
  * Berthier animations by 2cool2fool (stubbfan)
French Hope even more CONFIRMED than CLEGANEBOWL GET HYPE
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 17-06-2016, 14:06:11
  * Berthier animations by 2cool2fool (stubbfan)
French Hope even more CONFIRMED than CLEGANEBOWL GET HYPE
Where?  Post the video!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: radiosmersh on 17-06-2016, 15:06:05
  * Berthier animations by 2cool2fool (stubbfan)
French Hope even more CONFIRMED than CLEGANEBOWL GET HYPE
Where?  Post the video!
In the changelog.

Some weapon icons:
(http://i.imgur.com/SrJCkuV.png)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 17-06-2016, 16:06:54
I hope we could bring those lovely french toys out for everyone to enjoy sooner than later but we could use some experienced manpower to help us to make that happen.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Seth_Soldier on 17-06-2016, 19:06:38
 ;) i've created finnish toys for your maps now it's time to give my french toys a map !
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Dancho on 18-06-2016, 20:06:28
  maps

mapS, more Finish maps?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 18-06-2016, 20:06:16
Would that be a problem?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: TASSER on 18-06-2016, 22:06:37
Still need mappers, Flippy? What are the main manpower areas you guys could use a hand in these days?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 18-06-2016, 22:06:24
Still need mappers, Flippy? What are the main manpower areas you guys could use a hand in these days?
mapping!!!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 18-06-2016, 22:06:45
Navmeshing I would say.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 18-06-2016, 22:06:45
Vehicle modellers would be bloody nice.  :-X
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Dancho on 19-06-2016, 00:06:48
Navmeshing

Doesn't sound cool.  8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MajorMajor on 02-07-2016, 13:07:00
I know this is the conspiracy and not the leak-me-a-river thread, but is there any chance we can see the latest Prokhorovka minimap?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 17-07-2016, 12:07:47
No, but I decided to make little preview of a different WIP map.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytcdNp2Qymo
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MajorMajor on 17-07-2016, 13:07:11
Ahh, that map. I'm very curious to see how it has evolved since it was shown in the Medusa bug devblog.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst_Kroenen on 17-07-2016, 13:07:05
Great vid! The map looks really nice. I can already see the heavy fighting happening over the different sectors. Some heavy tank fights await us  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MajorMajor on 17-07-2016, 15:07:41
By the way, that Greenhouse static looks gorgeous. I hope players are encouraged to go near it, even if just for a pickup kit or something.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 19-07-2016, 12:07:53
Well it is in the flagzone.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 26-08-2016, 14:08:48
Current loading music to an upcoming unannounced map:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cne7KNhqNRc
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 27-08-2016, 21:08:19
Current loading music to an upcoming unannounced map:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cne7KNhqNRc

Interesting...  :o
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 28-08-2016, 00:08:58
Interesting, indeed. :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Alubat on 28-08-2016, 18:08:26
Sounds like a good drinking song
What is he singing ?

Hopefully audio quality is a little better in game :-)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 28-08-2016, 18:08:51
It is the Finnish version of "Wenn die Soldaten". He sings about marching "soldierboys" who are being greeted by handkerchief waving 17-year old blonde girls. Basically making the whole going to war and coming back from it seem like a jolly good time. Video description mentions it is the march song of the Finnish soldiers serving in the Waffen SS Division Wiking, but I cant really say yay or nay to that since I dont know if that is so. However, the reason I chose the song to be the loading music for the map is because to me it reeks of irony.

To explain it in the nutshell, think about the loading song for Seelow Heights. It tells you to ignore and turn away from the war, while that same war is getting closer and closer to home. At the same time the map is really "end of days" feeling. My case is similar: The song sort of glorifies war in its cheerful tone while the map itself is basically hell on earth and complete opposite to what the song is about.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Alubat on 28-08-2016, 19:08:19
Nice description

"greeted by handkerchief waving 17-year old blonde girls"
Just like everytime I walk upstairs and power on pc to play FH2
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 07-09-2016, 19:09:12
There were no update-render long time.. Any soon,it seems boring here lately  :-\
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 07-09-2016, 19:09:41
Shall I post some WIP map pictures?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 07-09-2016, 21:09:12
Ok,but not from Ogledow
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 07-09-2016, 22:09:41
Ok,but not from Ogledow

Well arent you a bit picky.  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hjaldrgud on 08-09-2016, 00:09:04
ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ PICS of MAUS or RIOT! ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MoustachAttack on 08-09-2016, 01:09:11
Shall I post some WIP map pictures?

Of course, you can..
(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/507/956/eff.png)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 08-09-2016, 05:09:35
Ok.

WIP Falaise Pocket:

(http://i.imgur.com/gyp9p3Q.jpg)

WIP Purple Heart Lane:

(http://i.imgur.com/VkASao6.jpg)

WIP Vossenack:

(http://i.imgur.com/ikdDjFt.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: D.Arya on 08-09-2016, 08:09:40
It's gonna be so lag
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MajorMajor on 08-09-2016, 09:09:57
 ;D

Can't say these pics aren't interesting, though.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MoustachAttack on 08-09-2016, 11:09:32
Humm.. very nice WIP map pictures  ;)

But you can also post Ogledow pictures, if someone doesn't want to see it, well he can just turn his head away  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 08-09-2016, 13:09:06
Humm.. very nice WIP map pictures  ;)

But you can also post Ogledow pictures, if someone doesn't want to see it, well he can just turn his head away  :P
Here,ogledow map video https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ytcdNp2Qymo

 Ts4ever,some not announced in-develop map or some not shown french in-game vehicle

Btw,on that Vossenack pic,is your whole colormap only green?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 08-09-2016, 16:09:11
That Purple Heart Lane picture looked like Battlefield 1942 at first! Amazing how these maps developed over time. Much love to the devs.  :-*
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MajorMajor on 08-09-2016, 16:09:41
TBH I prefer to get vehicle renders and map pics in proper updates, rather than in forum posts. What's the fun of being shown too much too early?

If you are craving for unreleased stuff, I believe there's a few interesting statics in the editor.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 08-09-2016, 20:09:54
That Purple Heart Lane picture looked like Battlefield 1942 at first!

Yes because the colourmap is oversaturated and way too busy. Back in BF1942 you had no detailmaps, so people crammed as much detail into the colourtexture as possible. In BF2 this ends up looking really overwhelming, as you can see in the picture.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 08-09-2016, 21:09:47
TBH I prefer to get vehicle renders and map pics in proper updates, rather than in forum posts. What's the fun of being shown too much too early?

If you are craving for unreleased stuff, I believe there's a few interesting statics in the editor.
You think we didnt saw all that stuff hundred time here? Im asking leak because there wasnt proper update/render for long time.. ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 08-09-2016, 21:09:03
Stay tuned. There'll be an update about new toys soon (tm).
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hjaldrgud on 08-09-2016, 21:09:02
Wait, I'm not following.. Will some old maps be updated?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Alubat on 08-09-2016, 22:09:31
So many posts in one day

Looks really good  :-)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 08-09-2016, 22:09:03
Wait, I'm not following.. Will some old maps be updated?

No these are years old WIP pictures of these maps.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 10-09-2016, 18:09:48
Stay tuned. There'll be an update about new toys soon (tm).

Please be new vehicles...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Eat Uranium on 10-09-2016, 19:09:38
Stay tuned. There'll be an update about new toys soon (tm).

Please be new vehicles...
(http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/clssfd.gif)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 11-09-2016, 19:09:31
I can already picture a map with Borgwards, Ferdinands and Stuka. Oyyy...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MajorMajor on 11-09-2016, 19:09:19
My vice are Pikku Sotkas and T26Es. Although I wouldn't complain about having a map with a Ferdinand or two in it...  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 11-09-2016, 19:09:56
I taught update be this weekend.. :(
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 11-09-2016, 20:09:03
Although I wouldn't complain about having a map with a Ferdinand or two in it...  :P

Yeah! And it should be nearly invincible, as it was. Mines could be its deadliest opponent, and make it noisy and slooowww (as a balance factor)  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 25-09-2016, 19:09:55
http://www.moddb.com/mods/battlefield-korea/images/type-95-ha-go#imagebox

Description:Thanks to Kraetzer from Forgotten Hope 2's Community Map Pack Pacific theater for letting us use this light tank.

Hm offical FH2 Pacific :o or Kreatzer been representative dev for letting FH1 imported tank to use by BF2Korea
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Anthony817 on 26-09-2016, 01:09:04
http://www.moddb.com/mods/battlefield-korea/images/type-95-ha-go#imagebox

Description:Thanks to Kraetzer from Forgotten Hope 2's Community Map Pack Pacific theater for letting us use this light tank.

Hm offical FH2 Pacific :o or Kreatzer been representative dev for letting FH1 imported tank to use by BF2Korea

He gave me permission to use the tank. Kraetzer also gave me permission to use his Type 99 LMG. Pacific addon isn't even official. These are their own side project, and as such you could call or label it as a minimod and is not official to Forgotten Hope 2. Anybody that creates a model has the last say on what they do with it. I assure you all permission was granted by the content producers. This is a complete non-issue.

Furthermore, it isn't the same model from Forgotten Hope 1 either. That is a totally different tank model made by completely different people.

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/images/vehicles/Type%2095%20Ha-Go/big.jpg)

(http://media.moddb.com/cache/images/mods/1/8/7106/thumb_620x2000/20160923024936_1.jpg)
(http://media.moddb.com/cache/images/mods/1/8/7106/thumb_620x2000/20160923024903_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 26-09-2016, 03:09:31
I don't think he was accusing anyone of stealing ;) more just fueling the conspiracy of FH2 Pacific.

Yes Kreatzer made the Ha-Go that is used in the CMP. Also, if you look closely, the F4U Corsair was made by PointBlank. And the USMC texture for the Stuart was done before the CMP included Pacific stuff.

Happy hunting! :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Anthony817 on 26-09-2016, 05:09:44
Ah I see now reading it again.  ;) My apologies.

Honestly, it would be so amazing if FH2 had an official Pacific campaign but I respect your dedication to focusing on the Western Front. It has already surpassed my expectations on how feature rich the mod could become many years ago, so all the recently added stuff is pure heaven.  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 26-09-2016, 18:09:06
Kraetzer also gave me permission to use his Type 99 LMG
:o :o :o Even more!


Yes Kreatzer made the Ha-Go that is used in the CMP. Also, if you look closely, the F4U Corsair was made by PointBlank. And the USMC texture for the Stuart was done before the CMP included Pacific stuff.

Happy hunting! :D

 :o :o Hm now maybe devs did like French hope : You make maps(CMP) and we will add else!  :D
And actually CMP is getting better and better!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Anthony817 on 26-09-2016, 23:09:55
Ivan, I suggest you check out the community map pack, it is seriously some great fun to be had!  ;D

http://www.762-ranking.de/site/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=653
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Stubbfan on 27-09-2016, 17:09:57
http://www.moddb.com/mods/hell-in-the-pacific/images/in-game-screenshots-from-hell-in-the-pacifc-mod4#imagebox

Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 27-09-2016, 19:09:56
Noooo,stubbfan! I didnt know that,now conspiracy is gone.. Well it can still be used in official FH2 Pacific i hope
 ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 28-09-2016, 01:09:32
Yeaaa, I wasn't gonna be the one to burst your bubble. :D that doesn't rule out Point Blank's Cosair tho
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 24-10-2016, 14:10:30
Well as pizzaman dont put cospiracies anymore..

What do you think will be in 2.53?
Lets say  3 maps as ts4 told
For 2.53 we want to do a proper content patch with 3 new Eastern Front maps and new weapons and vehicles. That might take a bit though and as always: plans might not match up with reality  ;)
1. Ogledow- ts is active developer and https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ytcdNp2Qymo

2.Prohorovka- well Fuhs was working so.. And this https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YSFY3Sop1OE But skytexture is little different as from thread,still it has churchil tank. What is interesting here is that you can see t34 with polish amblem and one comment about poland 1939 was

That is very unlikely. We might add Anders' Army or the Polish Exile forces raised by the Soviets at some point.

3.100% some finns map with sturmi.
But this is unknown for me
Current loading music to an upcoming unannounced map:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cne7KNhqNRc
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MajorMajor on 24-10-2016, 15:10:43
Somewhere on the Modding forum (Stavelot thread?) it was stated that Aserafimov was applying a map. Also, in a recent video Ts4ever stated that Crimea is as dead as the Dodo.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 24-10-2016, 15:10:53
IIRC Fenring also said he might post pictures from that dead map (or was that a different one?) ;) so maybe bug him about it.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 24-10-2016, 20:10:37
Well as pizzaman dont put cospiracies anymore..
I didn't know I was writing the conspiracies! I haven't really focused much on deciphering what the devs have/are planning on doing anyone. Ever since December of 2014 when my computer killed itself, I haven't really gotten back into FH2 or BF2. It's not that I don't like he mod anymore but I just feel unmotivated to install BF2, the patches, FH2, and some BF2 revive or BF2Hub (because of the gamespy shutdown) and taking up over 10GB of space. Thinking about it now, it does make me look lazy. I'm sure the Russian maps are excellent, they look fun.

Enough babble, I think Ivancic is right saying that Oględów and Prokhorovka might be in the next patch. I would also guess Ilomantsi as the Finnish map, and possibly Lenino for the Polish map. Besides both names showed up in the changelog AFAIK.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 24-10-2016, 20:10:22
Ooohh Fenring alert!!
Crimea,would be cool, we would love to see pics or maybe saw it in CMP but not important when Fenring is not active.. So I need to bug you ts4ever again to tell if he is active and if he would put pics ;D ;D
Too bad you dont want to update devs list on mainpage

@pizzaman well you were so active before in this thread till 2014 and full of conspiracies :D And thats time when I showed up and crushed thread from posts.. like I continoued you  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 30-10-2016, 17:10:09
(http://i.imgur.com/OW3UFNB.png)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst_Kroenen on 30-10-2016, 18:10:17
Nice pic! I'm really looking forward to play with the ferdinand. Can we maybe get a drivers/commander ingame view of it? And is that scarecrow a static on the map?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MajorMajor on 30-10-2016, 18:10:49
I wonder what that map is though. Is my colourblindness fooling me again or is that an autumn map?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 30-10-2016, 18:10:06
And is that scarecrow a static on the map?

Yep, and there is an xtra sp0000ky variant that is burgundy as well.

In fact, sometimes you might see our FH2 scarecrows sneaking around corners of loghouses just to peak at you! It's very frightening to be honest. ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 30-10-2016, 20:10:41
Yes!! SO this is it guys,100% checked :Battle of Lenino 1943
-First ts4 showed in video Polish marks on t34 and told soviet polish are most probably of all poles to get in FH2
-Now this was final pic we needed: same skybox as in video and with Ferdinand (ferdinands were used by germans in Lenino battle ) its clear

Now ... Hope dev that works on map wont leave in meantime..

So guys,new faction-Poles! Are you looking forward?
We will have new section for poles on mainpage :D Your taught?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 31-10-2016, 21:10:35
I hate to break it to you, but that video TS uploaded is not Lenino.. :)

Plus, the skyboxes are much different than the pic above.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 31-10-2016, 21:10:15
I hate to break it to you, but that video TS uploaded is not Lenino.. :)

Indeed, the skybox doesn't look similar to this promo image. Also the trees in the video are green, not autumn-coloured. If the video doesn't portray Lenino, then what map could it be?


Obviously Ponyri
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 31-10-2016, 21:10:08
I have to rephrase, a Lenino battle is just a conspiracy that was crafted by the community after all.

That being said, keep guessing. ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 06-11-2016, 00:11:30
Sure,Lenino is just conspiracy...

Anyway,will be any render or update soon?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 11-11-2016, 15:11:49
Where could this part fit on an upcoming static?

(http://i.imgur.com/7oRJ84N.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 11-11-2016, 16:11:13
In a corner. Duh.  ::)


 :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 11-11-2016, 16:11:59
Aha, you're getting warmer! :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 05-12-2016, 23:12:57
It is (http://i.imgur.com/XjsxWU8.jpg) 6th (http://i.imgur.com/ekIMBmT.jpg) of December (http://i.imgur.com/erbz1LJ.jpg). Have a good night (http://i.imgur.com/9ribm8v.jpg). :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 05-12-2016, 23:12:35
(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/773/128/2dd.jpg)

Are we still in the BF2 game engine? Those shots look absolutely gorgeous.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: hitm4k3r on 06-12-2016, 00:12:42
That's not a conspiracy, isn't it?  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Airshark79 on 06-12-2016, 01:12:48
The grass under the planes look out of place, good job with light settings.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: hitm4k3r on 06-12-2016, 01:12:20
So may I ask: what about the grass under the plane looks out of place?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 06-12-2016, 02:12:05
The grass under the planes look out of place, good job with light settings.

Do you mean in the sense that runways don't typically have grass?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 06-12-2016, 07:12:54
 You know, in the L-35 blog, they said it will be arming the Fins in the next update. And also TS4ever made a YouTube video of his new map Olgledow, aka the FH2 version of Stashuv area. That means that the next update is going to be major, since the last patches only fixed tank sights and finally added the Tellermine 43. And can you please remove the upcoming sign in the weapons list for the tellermine.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MajorMajor on 06-12-2016, 10:12:35
Those are terrific shots. The last one oozes atmosphere, but kinda looks out of place with the other three. Maybe we're being shown two different maps? Food for thought.

It's nice to finally see the Sturmi somewhere in the mod, even though I still hope some of the early war soviet light tanks get used by the Finns at some point.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Airshark79 on 06-12-2016, 12:12:49
The grass under the planes look out of place, good job with light settings.

Do you mean in the sense that runways don't typically have grass?

Yeah. But still soviets are notorious for not giving a fuck about fine details of construction.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 06-12-2016, 12:12:39
Note that in FH2 most of the time airfields aren't really airfields. Just big open spaces for planes to land. Otherwise we would go back to the bad old days of BF42 where you had hangars in the weirdest of places. Rather abstract it then.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 06-12-2016, 12:12:34
The grass under the planes look out of place, good job with light settings.

Do you mean in the sense that runways don't typically have grass?

Yeah. But still soviets are notorious for not giving a fuck about fine details of construction.

Heh I think you put it better than I could have reasoned the grassy runway.  :P

But in all honesty, it has grass for a few reasons. For one I dont generally like to have "airbases" in the maps unless there actually was an airfield where the battle took place, but since we want to have planes on the map I thought I'd try to make the airfields seem as natural to the rest of the map as possible. In this case, the factions are using regular fields as runways.

Another reason is that this isnt a new thing in FH2, I looked at older maps and noticed that this was already done on Totalize:
http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/Operation%20Totalize/Totalize16.jpg
http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/Operation%20Totalize/Totalize8.jpg

And thirdly, they did that IRL too so it isnt that out of place. Kuhlmey Focke Wulfs at Immola:
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7633/16775235529_a22d4a3c84_k.jpg
http://juhansotahistoriasivut.weebly.com/uploads/1/3/1/7/13173376/6627586_orig.jpg

The grass in the screenshot looks higher than it actually is due to the angle.  :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 06-12-2016, 15:12:54
It is (http://i.imgur.com/XjsxWU8.jpg) 6th (http://i.imgur.com/ekIMBmT.jpg) of December (http://i.imgur.com/erbz1LJ.jpg). Have a good night (http://i.imgur.com/9ribm8v.jpg). :)

I wonder if those Finnish logs can withstand hits from the Soviet 85mm :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 06-12-2016, 20:12:44
SICK SCREENSHOTS MAN!  ;D That dark forest looks intriguing.

Long time since we discussed the Finnish swastika issue lol
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 06-12-2016, 21:12:09
But guys key about this aircrafts is that if Soviets get fighter airplanes, Finns will also have airplanes! If soviet get 3 airplanes Finns will get 2 pretty sure- one Bf109 and SECOND, hope will be finnish Moraine Saulner, dont even need to be updated version. It would be even better try with obsolete Ms 406 take down those Lag

Anyway,nice pics, I suppose atleast 1x1 km map with obviuosly tanks and aircrafts,  sweeet 8)

EDIT: Looked little wiki and 100% sure its Battle of Tali-Ihantala. It has aircrafts,time is summer 1944 same as pics, lot of soldiers and finn armoured divison involved, so BINGO!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 06-12-2016, 22:12:47
Nice one, Flippy.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 06-12-2016, 23:12:27
But guys key about this aircrafts is that if Soviets get fighter airplanes, Finns will also have airplanes! If soviet get 3 airplanes Finns will get 2 pretty sure- one Bf109 and SECOND, hope will be finnish Moraine Saulner, dont even need to be updated version. It would be even better try with obsolete Ms 406 take down those Lag

Anyway,nice pics, I suppose atleast 1x1 km map with obviuosly tanks and aircrafts,  sweeet 8)

EDIT: Looked little wiki and 100% sure its Battle of Tali-Ihantala. It has aircrafts,time is summer 1944 same as pics, lot of soldiers and finn armoured divison involved, so BINGO!

Unfortunately we dont have Finnish aircraft available.

Have you ever read the changelog by any chance?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 07-12-2016, 14:12:39
TBH I dont have FH2 installed few months now so I forgot changelog a bit. It says Ilotmansi but that has no relation to this at all. No mention of air force nor tanks involved in big quantities.
And what has changelog with new maps or vehs? There are some consp like ilotmansi but nothing else. Also you dont have Bf109 or Ms406 ingame, if needed even Matt can retexture them? What flippy  ;D? There is no section for aircrafts on website means there wouldnt be? Since when, you also said that pics on main website mean nothing. Also TWO La 5FN are fighters and cant bring bombs- which lead us that finns will definetly get aircrafts. Again SWEET!
(on forum since 2014.....  8) )

P.S Finns swastika?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 07-12-2016, 14:12:31
Changelog would propably solify the map's real identity if you would have a gander at it.

But I am dead serious about this: We do not have Finnish aircraft available and there will not be Finnish planes on this map.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MajorMajor on 07-12-2016, 15:12:44
The changelog doesn't make any mention of Ilomantsi after 2014, just like Crimea which is officially dead. Same for Puffendorf.

Indeed there doesn't seem to be any mention of finnish planes anywhere, in spite of the (very) numerous Ihantala updates. The map that apparently could have planes is Lenino, since there is a mention of a fw190 being added.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 07-12-2016, 19:12:50

But I am dead serious about this: We do not have Finnish aircraft available and there will not be Finnish planes on this map.
Floppy you realy confused me. Nice job. But thank you for hint!
I really made crutial mistake. Of course you dont have any FINNISH aircrafts(finns made) , you have only german or france or soviet planes that were  used by Finns air forces ;D So after all       SWEET!  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 07-12-2016, 19:12:03
You still misunderstood me. The map wont have Finnish Airforce present at all.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 07-12-2016, 20:12:03
No candy for me  :'(
But can you tell me please Flippy ,if pic with planes and sturmi are from same finnish map, why there are La 5 figter planes? ;D No purpose for them. Of course this is conspiracy thread, but why? I still dont belive you ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 07-12-2016, 20:12:56
Everything will be revealed in time.  :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 07-12-2016, 22:12:44
Floppy you realy confused me.

No candy for me  :'(
Of course, if you call him Floppy, you won't get candy ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: hitm4k3r on 08-12-2016, 01:12:00
And now they call him Floppy Wardisc  ;D

(http://www.thewrap.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Intel-Star-Wars-Day-.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 08-12-2016, 08:12:01
And now they call him Floppy Wardisc  ;D

(http://www.thewrap.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Intel-Star-Wars-Day-.jpg)

Hahah great pic!

Very clever my little floppydisc friend. But not over me this time! So everything will be revealed in time means probably that Soviet airplanes will not know when will Finns planes spawn ( so in random time) but soviets dont need to be scared as
Everything will be revealed in time.  :)
 

 ;D Im low on ideas  :D

EDIT: How could I missed that post? So there wont be Finns Airforce but it will be Lufftwafe airplanes fighting ( aldo little unhappy with that statement) ! Haha Frodo, you cant hide!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 08-12-2016, 19:12:19
So everything will be revealed in time means probably that Soviet airplanes will not know when will Finns planes spawn ( so in random time) but soviets dont need to be scared as
Everything will be revealed in time.  :)
 

You are scratching the bottom of the barrel now. That is a really convoluted way to understand perfectly plain english.  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 08-12-2016, 19:12:25
After this post, I first taught : Ok seems I cant find anything. I will need to wait update. But then I recogonise that my english is bad as I missed so obvius-

You didnt -on purpose- mentioned other part of my post, that luftwaffe will fight here, no Finns aircrafts so that is actaully true! And gold is always on bottom of hole or barrel which means that my statement about airplanes and map is at the end true!!
 ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 08-12-2016, 19:12:43
Do a wikipedia search for Kurt Kuhlmey.  :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 08-12-2016, 20:12:12
Ok, I will stop for now with offensive, with result of  :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MoustachAttack on 25-12-2016, 17:12:45
Still no news? For Christmas?  :'(
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 26-12-2016, 13:12:48
Still no news? For Christmas?  :'(
Maybe we will get some news on the 30th or 31st
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 30-12-2016, 09:12:23
So one side is
http://m.imgur.com/9ribm8v?r
http://s8.postimg.org/ctac46rqs/screen045.png

And other side is
http://s15.postimg.org/6pz8lbkln/453532.png
http://m.imgur.com/erbz1LJ?r
http://m.imgur.com/ekIMBmT?r
http://m.imgur.com/XjsxWU8?r


Also
you can use them on El Alamein  ::)
...That said, I still think an all-plane map would be cool  :)

To quote a good buddy: if the planetary constellations allow it, there is a good chance of some airplane focused combat in the future of Forgotten Hope 2. So pray to the FH2 gods  :P
So planetary constellation? ;D

 ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 07-01-2017, 22:01:30
Time to give you something more to think about this weekend. It's too quiet in this topic, I don't like it!  ;)

(http://i.imgur.com/bzXtX1w.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: GeoPat on 08-01-2017, 05:01:00
Holy Shit!!!  Is that Battle of Potemkin Village?!!!  Can't wait!!!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 08-01-2017, 11:01:52
Time to give you something more to think about this weekend. It's too quiet in this topic, I don't like it!  ;)

(http://i.imgur.com/bzXtX1w.jpg)
I know there will be a ton of Eastern Front Maps in the next update!!!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 08-01-2017, 11:01:26
Holy Shit!!!  Is that Battle of Potemkin Village?!!!  Can't wait!!!
Damn, you've seen the file name on the imgur? It was too easy :-\
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 08-01-2017, 11:01:41
Holy Shit!!!  Is that Battle of Potemkin Village?!!!  Can't wait!!!
Damn, you've seen the file name on the imgur? It was too easy :-\
I am happy that the Eastern Front is getting more and more attention. I am a huge fan of the Eastern Front. Can't wait!!!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 08-01-2017, 18:01:02
Do you want to see some more editor screenshot of the Battle of Potemkin Village?  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 08-01-2017, 18:01:38
Do you want to see some more editor screenshot of the Battle of Potemkin Village?  ;)

I'd like to know general information about the battle. :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 08-01-2017, 18:01:13
ask GeoPat about that  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: GeoPat on 08-01-2017, 20:01:24
Do you want to see some more editor screenshot of the Battle of Potemkin Village?  ;)

I'd like to know general information about the battle. :)

It took place here:
(http://l7.alamy.com/zooms/76f30bd97fde4932af342d1edd4ee09e/catherine-the-great-of-russia-visits-a-peasant-village-the-empress-f7pxwp.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 09-01-2017, 08:01:47
Do you want to see some more editor screenshot of the Battle of Potemkin Village?  ;)
YESSS!!!!!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 09-01-2017, 12:01:57
Too bad it was a joke. Only if you will guess the real name of the battle you will get more pictures ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 09-01-2017, 13:01:42
Too bad it was a joke. Only if you will guess the real name of the battle you will get more pictures ;)
Well, I ges I have to wait till 2.6, :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 09-01-2017, 16:01:17
Too bad it was a joke. Only if you will guess the real name of the battle you will get more pictures ;)
But this can be every village in whole eastern Europe.Too random. So that means you need to give us another pic that we can use ;D 

That huge tree down road,is that new stuff? Looks nice
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 09-01-2017, 17:01:52
That huge tree down road,is that new stuff? Looks nice

Been in since the first normandy release, 2.2. That tree is huge!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 09-01-2017, 17:01:26
It reminds me on my village. Didnt noticed it before. Flippy crocket, you can also little show off around with some new pics of your map too. Dont let Jan beat you with his map
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 09-01-2017, 17:01:40
Too bad it was a joke. Only if you will guess the real name of the battle you will get more pictures ;)
But this can be every village in whole eastern Europe.Too random. So that means you need to give us another pic that we can use ;D 
No, I don't need to. But I can give you a hint: 1943 ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 09-01-2017, 18:01:15
you can also little show off around with some new pics of your map too.

Yes indeed, I can.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 09-01-2017, 18:01:24
Looks to like spring or summer. Is October in russia already  winter?

This is around:
Battle of Poltava
Battle of Orel 1943
Belgorod-Kharkov operation
Battle of Dnjepr
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Dancho on 09-01-2017, 22:01:21
Random question: Jan kurator, are you playing on 5:4 screen ratio monitor?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 09-01-2017, 23:01:58
No, and that's pretty random indeed. Why?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 09-01-2017, 23:01:25
According to the tale, Potemkin erected his villages along the Dnieper. Therefore, I speculate that in one form or another, the map depicts some part of the Lower Dnieper Offensive, in particular the river crossings. Most likely it has no relation whatsoever to my ancient suggestion thereof (http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?topic=14980.msg224921#msg224921) (thanks to imageshack for deleting my images).
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: GeoPat on 10-01-2017, 00:01:18
Maybe Kelmola.
Then again, It may just be my attempt at a clever way of saying the village looks totally generic.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 10-01-2017, 00:01:53
Yes, map is pretty generic, but that's the point. It's a conquest map, representing a part of a bigger front in 1943. Also, river crossings are the key words, yet we talk about different river. Keep it coming  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: radiosmersh on 10-01-2017, 02:01:52
Yes, map is pretty generic, but that's the point. It's a conquest map, representing a part of a bigger front in 1943. Also, river crossings are the key words, yet we talk about different river. Keep it coming  ;)
Then it can be part of Donbass Strategic Offensive, which involved crossings of Donetsk and Mius rivers.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 10-01-2017, 11:01:05
Yes, map is pretty generic, but that's the point. It's a conquest map, representing a part of a bigger front in 1943. Also, river crossings are the key words, yet we talk about different river. Keep it coming  ;)
Then it can be part of Donbass Strategic Offensive, which involved crossings of Donetsk and Mius rivers.

Yep he said it incloudes big scale. I would say
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cd/Karte_-_Donezbecken-Operation_1943.png/800px-Karte_-_Donezbecken-Operation_1943.png)

-Something like crossing donetsk river and fight with 1.Panzerarmee 
-Or crossing river Kal'mius and attack at Stalino
-or retreat over river/breaktrough of traped german XXIX korp
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 10-01-2017, 12:01:47
Yep he said it incloudes big scale.
I didn't say that. Map itself isn't heavily scaled down, even though it kinda remind some of the FH2's NA maps in some aspects. It portrays just a small part of a bigger thing... Anyway, both of you are on to something here. I will consider posting more screenshots later ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MajorMajor on 10-01-2017, 13:01:25
Map itself isn't heavily scaled down.

Damn, I thought you were fooling us and that the conquest map was Prokhorovka, and the river was the Psel.  :P

If you post any photos, one showing the river would be nice. If it is indeed the Mius, one bank should be steeper than the other, and should have forward-slope positions.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Pr0z4c on 11-01-2017, 09:01:12
Conspiracy..... i smell infantry maps only.. .  :'(
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 11-01-2017, 12:01:27
I wouldn't mind one urban infantry only map based on the Eastern Front  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 11-01-2017, 14:01:22
I wouldn't mind one urban infantry only map based on the Eastern Front  ;)
Yes!! That is what I also want! Battle of Berlin???
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Pr0z4c on 11-01-2017, 15:01:17
i also wouldnt mind less spamming from FHMax3 on this forum
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Pr0z4c on 11-01-2017, 15:01:55
eastfront should be big!  lots of tanks and lots of planes.

tbh: new eastfront maps look good but are too small.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: hitm4k3r on 11-01-2017, 23:01:25
Luckily we are not done yet  :P

(http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i359/5hitm4k3r/Forgotten%20Hope%202/screen055_zpsfryr7son.png)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 12-01-2017, 07:01:38
Luckily we are not done yet  :P

(http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i359/5hitm4k3r/Forgotten%20Hope%202/screen055_zpsfryr7son.png)
Operation Bagration??
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: hitm4k3r on 12-01-2017, 11:01:03
What makes you believe that it is Operation Bargation? I even accidently placed a little hint  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 12-01-2017, 12:01:16
What makes you believe that it is Operation Bargation? I even accidently placed a little hint  ;D
I have been to Belorussia a couple of times and it looks like their swamps. My best guess is Karelia?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 12-01-2017, 12:01:55
What makes you believe that it is Operation Bargation? I even accidently placed a little hint  ;D
The only hints I see in a Pak-40 (although it could be a Pak-38) a La-5FN, although it looks like a La-7, and a  burnt out IS-2 tank wreck. Also in the background, there are some other burnt out tanks which I assume are T-34s. There is also a wreck that looks like a destroyed Pak. The cut-down trees indicate the landscape of either Belorussia, Finland or wartime Germany. There are trenches and dugouts, and a partially destroyed fence. My guess is that an air or artillery strike hit these German positions.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: hitm4k3r on 12-01-2017, 16:01:34
One of the things you listed, should tell you where it is located. But I will not tell you what. And I will not give you more information until I read a well reasoned solution to the puzzle. :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Pr0z4c on 12-01-2017, 16:01:52
Operation Bagration............ yeahh im sure they are planning on a map thats 500x500 km
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 12-01-2017, 17:01:53
One of the things you listed, should tell you where it is located. But I will not tell you what. And I will not give you more information until I read a well reasoned solution to the puzzle. :P
IS-2 tank wreck! We don't have that static! They were first used to great effect in Operation Bagration and in   
Finland!!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Rokka on 12-01-2017, 18:01:11
Tali/Ihantala is my guess :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 12-01-2017, 18:01:40
Tali/Ihantala is my guess :P
Yes. We have not seen any renders of Finnish maps lately.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Rokka on 12-01-2017, 19:01:35
I saw a heightmap-ish thing a while ago. Kinda looked like this
(https://saturnismus.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/ihantala.png?w=630)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: hitm4k3r on 12-01-2017, 19:01:26
I haven't seen any evidence yet, why it should be a map suggested by you guys. Especialy not based on the image I posted. There are so many hints everywhere what it is or could be and yet noone made a well founded guess. Just spamming guesses and estimations will not get you anywhere. It's the same with those stories in thrillers. Just guessing without any proven logic will get you nowhere when you are confronted with the judge.  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 12-01-2017, 19:01:56
http://m.imgur.com/erbz1LJ?r
http://m.imgur.com/ekIMBmT?r
http://m.imgur.com/XjsxWU8?r

How not? This is pics flippy posted and I think its same map hitm4k3r showed. What confirmes is that behind you can see FINNISH skin on pak40.Second is La5FN airplane showed by both of them, sky looks pretty same, that forest and woods are same like on Sammatus so it is Finnland 100% . Third is that La5FN is FIGHTER ONLY airplane and there are two of them on map,which pulls that it other side will have airplanes too- what is bad is that there wouldnt be Finnish air force (flipply claims) but GERMAN LUFTWAFFE CONTINGENT in Finnland. Fourth flippy showed it will have Sturmi so conclusion is only one:

Tali-Ihantala. 100%:Because it was big and important battle, finnish armoured division fought here (sturmi), German detachment Kuhlmey fought there, it is Finnland!!

Now flippy/hitm4k3r trow us more pics because it is evident now  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 12-01-2017, 19:01:08
I saw a heightmap-ish thing a while ago. Kinda looked like this
(https://saturnismus.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/ihantala.png?w=630)
Well it looks like it fits the screenshot, but we do not see a lake in the shot. Also, there has to be an airstrip for the plane.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 12-01-2017, 20:01:59
I honestly thought this mystery was already cracked by MajorMajor when he pointed out that the map's name has appeared in the changelog for like 100+ times.

Either you people are thick or you forget really fast.  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 12-01-2017, 20:01:49
I honestly thought this mystery was already cracked by MajorMajor when he pointed out that the map's name has appeared in the changelog for like 100+ times.

Either you people are thick or you forget really fast.  :P
Yes. Goes in one ear. Comes out of another  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Dancho on 13-01-2017, 22:01:25
No, and that's pretty random indeed. Why?
Because of the screenshot you posted. It looks pretty narrow to me and I was currious if someone else beside me plays at such resolution, thats it.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 13-01-2017, 23:01:09
No, and that's pretty random indeed. Why?
Because of the screenshot you posted. It looks pretty narrow to me and I was currious if someone else beside me plays at such resolution, thats it.

That's an editor screenshot, it can be a bit wonky and doesnt necessarily reflect the actual resolution. ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 15-01-2017, 18:01:51
Can anyone recommend some good trench digging companies?

(http://i.imgur.com/6pKSscX.jpg)

I'm bushed!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 16-01-2017, 21:01:13
Are these threnches already in FH2? Seems not. Is every side of trench its own static or from one piece?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 16-01-2017, 21:01:57
They work like any other trenches in FH2
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 16-01-2017, 21:01:51
They are modular sets. They work and look amazing.  8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 16-01-2017, 21:01:14
Hmm any render soon
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 16-01-2017, 22:01:18
Are these threnches already in FH2? Seems not. Is every side of trench its own static or from one piece?

That image was just a preview of these new modular trenches showcased in the upcoming map [censored].

What makes these dirt trenches look good is that there is no texture seam in between the dirt wall and skirt texture. They are very similar to our Bulge foxholes in some respects.


I can tell you, they were a blast to make! :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 17-01-2017, 17:01:36
Are these threnches already in FH2? Seems not. Is every side of trench its own static or from one piece?

That image was just a preview of these new modular trenches showcased in the upcoming map [censored].

What makes these dirt trenches look good is that there is no texture seam in between the dirt wall and skirt texture. They are very similar to our Bulge foxholes in some respects.


I can tell you, they were a blast to make! :)
I wonder how massive the next update will be  8). These are the maps:
Olgedow
[Censored]
[Censored]
[Censored]
[Censored]
[Censored]
[Censored]
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 17-01-2017, 19:01:55
I think you missed one:
[Censored]

Joke aside, how many maps do you think will be in the next update.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 18-01-2017, 01:01:32
Sadly we cannot tell you the number of maps in the next release(s), but there is no doubt you're gonna love 'em. ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 18-01-2017, 09:01:18
Sadly we cannot tell you the number of maps in the next release(s), but there is no doubt you're gonna love 'em. ;)
I already love them  8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 29-01-2017, 20:01:44
Since we are still having a bit of a news drought, we thought we'd spice things up a bit by having something for you to look at.

http://i.imgur.com/JrXLBNB.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/bu2gwl1.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/iPXw2vP.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/cL9rAhp.jpg

Remember, everything you see here is still WIP.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 30-01-2017, 09:01:32
Since we are still having a bit of a news drought, we thought we'd spice things up a bit by having something for you to look at.

http://i.imgur.com/JrXLBNB.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/bu2gwl1.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/iPXw2vP.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/cL9rAhp.jpg

Remember, everything you see here is still WIP.
I like the one with the grave, it is a memorial to the ones dead fighting for two ideologies.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 30-01-2017, 10:01:48
I like the one with the grave, it is a memorial to the ones dead fighting for two ideologies.

No, it is not a war memorial.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 30-01-2017, 11:01:46
I like the one with the grave, it is a memorial to the ones dead fighting for two ideologies.

No, it is not a war memorial.
I know it is not a memorial, but a grave. For me it is as symbol of the dead ones.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 30-01-2017, 11:01:46
Cant argue with that logic.  :-X
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 30-01-2017, 12:01:07
Cant argue with that logic.  :-X
In games about WW2, it is always important to remember about the dead too, not only the heroes.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MajorMajor on 30-01-2017, 15:01:23
http://i.imgur.com/JrXLBNB.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/bu2gwl1.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/iPXw2vP.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/cL9rAhp.jpg

Very nice pics, lush green conifers against a clear blue sky is one of my favorite landscapes so I love how it looks. The craters in the graveyard actualy remind me of All Quite in the Western Front.  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 30-01-2017, 15:01:22
http://i.imgur.com/JrXLBNB.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/bu2gwl1.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/iPXw2vP.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/cL9rAhp.jpg

Very nice pics, lush green conifers against a clear blue sky is one of my favorite landscapes so I love how it looks. The craters in the graveyard actualy remind me of All Quite in the Western Front.  :P
Great maps are made by great people.  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 30-01-2017, 19:01:01
The craters in the graveyard actualy remind me of All Quite in the Western Front.  :P

It does have a rather ww1 feel to it if Im honest.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 31-01-2017, 20:01:14
http://i.imgur.com/JrXLBNB.jpg
The milk churn delivery and retrieval platform (maitolaituri) is a nice touch of Finnish countryside milieu. :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 31-01-2017, 20:01:47
http://i.imgur.com/JrXLBNB.jpg
The milk churn delivery and retrieval platform (maitolaituri) is a nice touch of Finnish countryside milieu. :)
Is the Drilling kit included?  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 31-01-2017, 20:01:41
The milk churn delivery and retrieval platform (maitolaituri) is a nice touch of Finnish countryside milieu. :)

And since it is a very region specific static, it twists my heart whenever I see people use it as a common shed on other maps.  :P

Too bad all that milk has gone to waste and left to spoil in the hot summer sun. ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Rokka on 01-02-2017, 16:02:51
in the book of Tuntematon Sotilas, there's a village described with only a old man living there. Kinda reminds me of how i visualized it.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Alubat on 01-02-2017, 18:02:43
http://i.imgur.com/JrXLBNB.jpg
The milk churn delivery and retrieval platform (maitolaituri) is a nice touch of Finnish countryside milieu. :)

I guess some one went with a bottle of Kahlúa and teached them how to make White Russian  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 04-02-2017, 15:02:07
Took some more screenshots yesterday and I thought I'd post a couple, but I'll post one at a time every now and then.

Let's start with something that isn't anything super special, just a bit of countryside... do you notice what is special about this pic? ;)

http://i.imgur.com/FmEjh8D.jpg
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 04-02-2017, 16:02:25
Yeah the undergrowth doesn't blend properly.  :-X
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 04-02-2017, 16:02:32
Best man to give advice. ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: GeoPat on 04-02-2017, 22:02:02
It's got a new kind of barbed wire fence that is just a bit too long between the posts to be realistic.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 04-02-2017, 22:02:03
No barbedwire was used on this map.  :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 05-02-2017, 18:02:01
Come on people, if you don't give any more guesses, Flippy won't post...

Spoiler
More images ;)

I'll give you a hint, it's a new static
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MajorMajor on 05-02-2017, 19:02:25
I guess the building in the background could be new. To be honest, I'm not as familiar with Eastern Front statics as with NW Europe ones, so IDK. The only other relevant statics in sight are the wooden house, which looks like the ones that are already in 2.5 maps, and the tank wreck, which I won't try to identify for fear of losing my sight.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 05-02-2017, 19:02:23
Come on people, if you don't give any more guesses, Flippy won't post...

Spoiler
More images ;)

I'll give you a hint, it's a new static
A wood bunker, like in FH1???

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/OqQvgpUK3z4/hqdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Alubat on 05-02-2017, 19:02:47
The House far away in the background?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 05-02-2017, 20:02:09
Uuhhhh yeah the building in the far back is indeed new and isnt present on any released EF maps but it is not the answer I was looking for.  I was more after a historical detail. :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 05-02-2017, 20:02:26
What are those white/sand triangles to the right of the building in the background (at the bottom of the forest hill)? ???
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 05-02-2017, 20:02:44
It's just terrain.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Alubat on 05-02-2017, 21:02:53

(http://i.imgur.com/Fi7K3.gif)

Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: PoliorcetE on 06-02-2017, 11:02:42
the Electric poles ?

A+
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 06-02-2017, 16:02:08
Yeah, those are new too. ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 06-02-2017, 18:02:55
That Douglas Fir in the background?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 06-02-2017, 18:02:26
the Electric poles ?

A+

Keen eye, but not the correct answer.  :)

EDIT: Some historical context http://i.imgur.com/hKFh7ch.jpg
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 06-02-2017, 19:02:20
Burning Soviet tank in the background?
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/f1/11/10/f11110c5b814ea8342aa6fe0b473ea05.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 06-02-2017, 19:02:18
The very same wreck in both photos.  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 07-02-2017, 19:02:14
http://m.imgur.com/erbz1LJ?r
http://m.imgur.com/ekIMBmT?r
http://m.imgur.com/XjsxWU8?r

How not? This is pics flippy posted and I think its same map hitm4k3r showed. What confirmes is that behind you can see FINNISH skin on pak40.Second is La5FN airplane showed by both of them, sky looks pretty same, that forest and woods are same like on Sammatus so it is Finnland 100% . Third is that La5FN is FIGHTER ONLY airplane and there are two of them on map,which pulls that it other side will have airplanes too- what is bad is that there wouldnt be Finnish air force (flipply claims) but GERMAN LUFTWAFFE CONTINGENT in Finnland. Fourth flippy showed it will have Sturmi so conclusion is only one:

Tali-Ihantala. 100%:Because it was big and important battle, finnish armoured division fought here (sturmi), German detachment Kuhlmey fought there, it is Finnland!!

Now flippy/hitm4k3r trow us more pics because it is evident now  ;)

Noice  :) Will it be finished soon?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 07-02-2017, 19:02:40
Unfortunately there is still quite a lot of art work to be done on the map and we'll have to make sure the map runs fine (with the limited manpower we have) before we can call it finished. And as it goes with any map, further updates and changes will be done according to player feedback once it's been out for a while.

In the meantime...

http://i.imgur.com/sB1hPBa.jpg
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MajorMajor on 07-02-2017, 19:02:26
http://i.imgur.com/sB1hPBa.jpg

Nice, really digging the crepuscular feeling of this picture. I hope that at some point we get wallpapers of the new maps, like the ones we got for 2.5.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 07-02-2017, 20:02:17
Is this 32pl version? Skybox is awsome!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 07-02-2017, 20:02:07
Is this 32pl version? Skybox is awsome!

16p version. We've got a slightly different approach to the different sized versions compared to existing maps, which we will reveal in a blog entry once we are closer to wrapping things up. So theres something for anyone interested to look forward to.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 07-02-2017, 21:02:17
Unfortunately there is still quite a lot of art work to be done on the map and we'll have to make sure the map runs fine (with the limited manpower we have) before we can call it finished. And as it goes with any map, further updates and changes will be done according to player feedback once it's been out for a while.

In the meantime...

http://i.imgur.com/sB1hPBa.jpg
That is one of the greatest things I have seen in FH2!!!!  :D :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 07-02-2017, 21:02:39
Im looking a little about polikrapov po2 and it sound which is amazing. My question is there chance that you make one video ( example on Selow) of Po 2 in flight? I suppose it will not see day of light soon , so question is out of curiosity
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 07-02-2017, 21:02:52
Of course, but it has a placeholder hawker hardy engine sound at the moment.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 07-02-2017, 22:02:08
Yea I taught that. Well it would still be worth, but not like when it would have its own sound.

P.S. I hope there will be map from Donbass Strategic Offensive 1943   ( 8) ) [/teasing Jan]
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 07-02-2017, 23:02:58
Those telephone pole statics are awesome.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 08-02-2017, 00:02:03
Those telephone pole statics are awesome.

Thank you, Pyjama Shark!

To be honest, they are based off the other ones, but just some rearranging was the main work. :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 08-02-2017, 09:02:23
Those telephone pole statics are awesome.

Thank you, Pyjama Shark!

To be honest, they are based off the other ones, but just some rearranging was the main work. :)
All of the new statics are amazing because of dedication and hard work from our awesome dev team!!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 23-02-2017, 08:02:46
Man, I wish I could get that for Tali.  :)
We can negociate a fernch map 

I hope we could bring those lovely french toys out for everyone to enjoy sooner than later but we could use some experienced manpower to help us to make that happen.
;) i've created finnish toys for your maps now it's time to give my french toys a map !

I feel Seth as sad kitten. Maybe he will get 'his' after second 'eastern' ?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 23-02-2017, 19:02:28
Yeah we still need manpower to help bringing the frenchies in.  :-\

Hopefully some day...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 26-02-2017, 09:02:06
We will get the Frenchies. Why else do we have the French skin for the Somua? And pay attention that the model is by Seth Soldier, but the GERMAN skin is made by Gurdy.

(http://media.moddb.com/images/mods/1/6/5480/Somua.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 26-02-2017, 11:02:32
It's not the equipment problem, it's the map problem.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 26-02-2017, 17:02:13
What happened to French Hope? I think it was a promising project. And that one map was pretty good actually. Needed some scrapings here and there to perfect it, but would still do IMO as a good start.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 26-02-2017, 18:02:04
What happened to French Hope? I think it was a promising project. And that one map was pretty good actually. Needed some scrapings here and there to perfect it, but would still do IMO as a good start.
I(me) shouldnt start story again..
I think story about french hope was mentioned atleast once in every half year. Too bad they failed. Just they could but didnt manage to get final. Devs did sort of said that Stonne is pretty good, but by now it would probably need new better resolution textures and little better object placment. That is again work, and nobody is want to take half finished map (especially map as every mapper has its own ideas and rarely is on same level with other mapper). I still have feeling that Stonne could be base and easier finished than absolutly new map, but maybe some devs statment directly about this specific map could explain better than me....
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: hitm4k3r on 26-02-2017, 20:02:07
The reason, why we don't have any French Hope map in FH2 is basicly the same reason why Ste Mere Eglise is in the CMP and not in the official mod. It's one thing to have a good start to work with, but it is a completely different topic to keep at it, to polish everything and to simply finalize it and to say to yourself: that's the maximum that I can achieve. I recently made some further improvements to Ste Mere Eglise again, even after all the hours I spent on the map and I allways find something where I am not confident with something. Dead ends are one of the biggest issues with the map and it would equal basicly creating the map from scratch to fix all that stuff. At the end I sometimes get burnt out allways working on the same map and I don't feel like starting from scratch just to have a proper official SME where everything is perfect, if that's even something to achieve for me.

Creating my own project from scratch on the other hand and following my own workflow makes it easier for me and keeps me motivated as I am able to spent my time efficiently without fixing other peoples oversights or mistakes. It's no biggy for me, if I have to fix my own crap though.  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 28-02-2017, 08:02:50
C'mon guys, we need some news for this February. How about a shot of Stashuv City on Ogledow, as TS4ever did not show it in depth.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 28-02-2017, 17:02:23
C'mon guys, we need some news for this February. How about a shot of Stashuv City on Ogledow, as TS4ever did not show it in depth.
He didn't because the city is not a part of a map.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 28-02-2017, 20:02:05
The city is basically background graphics.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 01-03-2017, 08:03:17
The city is basically background graphics.
I wish we had a urban eastern front map in FH2. Poznan? Berlin? Konisberg? We need to see the full potential of Russian SMG's. But then again, it takes a ton of time. The only one we might see is Berlin, but then you would need the Reichstag, Kroll Opera, and Reichschacellry.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 01-03-2017, 20:03:43
I wish we had a urban eastern front map in FH2. Poznan? Berlin? Konisberg? We need to see the full potential of Russian SMG's. But then again, it takes a ton of time. The only one we might see is Berlin, but then you would need the Reichstag, Kroll Opera, and Reichschacellry.
Berlin is exactly what we will never see in FH2. Unless it will be a generic map, like the one from FH0.7.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 01-03-2017, 21:03:56
someone learn static modeling and help Roughbeak out!  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 02-03-2017, 04:03:14
Making Berlin is entirely possible, it's just we need to focus on a certain part of it, and leave the rest as background props or such.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 02-03-2017, 17:03:52
Ok I prepared a list of possible vehicles and maps in 2.6. Warning: I am not a Dev or Betatester, I am just guessing on this update. And also all of these vehicles appeared in devblogs.

Maps (more likely to appear):
Olgledow
Tali
Prohorovka.
Dukla Pass 2.0 (updated)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3d4rNAytuI4
Battle of Portinhoikka (Showed some vehichles on the map)
http://www.sichtling.com/work_05.html
Unidentified maps:
A screen Jan posted of a village:
(http://i.imgur.com/bzXtX1w.jpg)
A video TS4ever made of a bug on an unidentifed map (could be Prohorovka):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSFY3Sop1OE
Weapons (unsure):
L-35
M1943 Mortar
Faustpatrone:
Panssarikauhu
Vehicles (again, unsure):
Finnish Stug
J-87 "Kannonvogel"
Soviet Churchill
Ferdinand
Ferdinand won't be in 2.5 sadly cause there is not map for it. It is planned for 2.51.
Bt-7 (unlikely)
T-70 (very likely)
15 cm sIG 33 (unknown)
Su-76 (no idea about it)
Po-2
Factions:
just to spice it up a bit: future Eastern Front releases might add even more factions to FH2! ;)
EDIT:
Viechles and weapons:
[Censored]
T-50 (unkown, may apear on Tali)
T-26 (if added, cannon fodder for Soviet-T-34s)
H-39 (probably in the game files)
(http://i.imgur.com/ONP61V1.jpg?2)
Maps:
[a map]
Lenino, mentioned in the channelog.
Thats it, feel free to add things to my list (*nudge*)
-FH2Max3
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 02-03-2017, 18:03:41
Panssarikauhu is already on Sammatus if Im correct. It is just a Finnish name for the panzerschreck.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 02-03-2017, 18:03:38
Panssarikauhu is already on Sammatus if Im correct. It is just a Finnish name for the panzerschreck.
Oh, just in the weapons list, it says "upcoming"
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 02-03-2017, 19:03:12
I think it was added in the patch following the first EF release to give the Finns something to help them break out from their main if they were pushed back so far. If it's not in yet, then it'll be in the next update.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 02-03-2017, 20:03:51
Su-76 is already on some maps too (Sammatus, Arad).
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 03-03-2017, 08:03:21
Su-76 is already on some maps too (Sammatus, Arad).
No, the Su-76M is on those maps.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 03-03-2017, 15:03:25
To add to your list, your missing a [censored] on [a map]. Go on, add it. :)

It will be uncensored relatively soon.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 03-03-2017, 15:03:24
I have to say, pretty good sleuthing from FHMax3 here 8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 03-03-2017, 19:03:23
To add to your list, your missing a [censored] on [a map]. Go on, add it. :)

It will be uncensored relatively soon.
Added it ;).
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kasztelan on 03-03-2017, 20:03:40
Hey FHMax3,

add Battle of Lenino to the list since it was mentioned quite a few times in changelog also there are textures for PzKpfw IV and FW 190 with Lenino suffix.

With this map a new faction would appear which is Polish People's Army or LWP (Ludowe Wojsko Polskie).
Sources (Why not let's be proffesional here :P): changelog - "* Add Polish voices to beta (ts4ever)" or "* Remove crown from Polish Eagle in order to destroy the symbol of monarchist anti-revolutionaries (ts4ever)"  ;D There is also a texture of T-34 with LWP's "Piast eagle" which is early polish white eagle whithout a crown.

Also T-50 and T-26 light tanks showed up on screenshots few years ago, they are also mentioned in changelog. Source: "* T50 update colmesh (kev4000)", "* Apcr ammo for t26 and bt7 (kev4000)".

Well these are some things I remeber, I was digging through changelog and files after last update so there might be more things that I don't remember, so check it if you want. Changelog is located in the FH2 main folder.

Oh and there was once a low res screenshot in this very thread on which people recognized a proper Fallschirmjager models. You could've spot this signature FJ baggy pants.

Well that's all sorry for any mistakes.

Cheers
 
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 03-03-2017, 21:03:29
Su-76 is already on some maps too (Sammatus, Arad).
No, the Su-76M is on those maps.
Yeah, but like other early Sov vehicles you know how probable that's gonna be. Enjoy the M, I'd say ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 04-03-2017, 09:03:37
Hey FHMax3,

add Battle of Lenino to the list since it was mentioned quite a few times in changelog also there are textures for PzKpfw IV and FW 190 with Lenino suffix.

With this map a new faction would appear which is Polish People's Army or LWP (Ludowe Wojsko Polskie).
Sources (Why not let's be proffesional here :P): changelog - "* Add Polish voices to beta (ts4ever)" or "* Remove crown from Polish Eagle in order to destroy the symbol of monarchist anti-revolutionaries (ts4ever)"  ;D There is also a texture of T-34 with LWP's "Piast eagle" which is early polish white eagle whithout a crown.

Also T-50 and T-26 light tanks showed up on screenshots few years ago, they are also mentioned in changelog. Source: "* T50 update colmesh (kev4000)", "* Apcr ammo for t26 and bt7 (kev4000)".

Well these are some things I remeber, I was digging through changelog and files after last update so there might be more things that I don't remember, so check it if you want. Changelog is located in the FH2 main folder.

Oh and there was once a low res screenshot in this very thread on which people recognized a proper Fallschirmjager models. You could've spot this signature FJ baggy pants.

Well that's all sorry for any mistakes.

Cheers
Well the devs said that Lenino was a conspiracy crafted by the community. And the T-50, don't know what to say. Can you show some screenshots to prove it. Correct me if I'm worng
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kasztelan on 04-03-2017, 10:03:27
Dude just search for T-50 on this forum it's that easy... But whatever, here's link to portfolio with screenshots http://www.sichtling.com/work_05.html. Also Lenino is in OFFICIAL changelog what else do you need as proof??? It even once had a page in map section but it was inaccesible by usual ways and was removed soon afterwards.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 04-03-2017, 14:03:54
Dude just search for T-50 on this forum it's that easy... But whatever, here's link to portfolio with screenshots http://www.sichtling.com/work_05.html. Also Lenino is in OFFICIAL changelog what else do you need as proof??? It even once had a page in map section but it was inaccesible by usual ways and was removed soon afterwards.
But note that Sichtling is not a dev, and Lenino, don't know what to say about that. Also did the devs accept him as a dev?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 04-03-2017, 14:03:32
To add to your list, your missing a [censored] on [a map]. Go on, add it. :)

It will be uncensored relatively soon.
Added it ;).

Now now, I didn't say it was a weapon or a vehicle. :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 04-03-2017, 15:03:21
To add to your list, your missing a [censored] on [a map]. Go on, add it. :)

It will be uncensored relatively soon.
Added it ;).

Now now, I didn't say it was a weapon or a vehicle. :)
I'll fix it as soon as it becomes clear. Could verify about Sichtling being a dev? Did you guys like his stuff?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 04-03-2017, 15:03:29
Could verify about Sichtling being a dev? Did you guys like his stuff?

Didnt notice the MP34 and M11-39 tanks in that site? You can find these items in FH2:

http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/imagesfh2/vehicles/Fiat%20M1139/big.jpg
http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/imagesfh2/weapons/Maschinenpistole%2034/big.jpg
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 04-03-2017, 16:03:12
Yes, he is a dev. And yes, we have these tanks in the files, should we ever need them.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 04-03-2017, 16:03:07
Could verify about Sichtling being a dev? Did you guys like his stuff?

Didnt notice the MP34 and M11-39 tanks in that site? You can find these items in FH2:

http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/imagesfh2/vehicles/Fiat%20M1139/big.jpg
http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/imagesfh2/weapons/Maschinenpistole%2034/big.jpg

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/imagesfh2/vehicles/Fiat%20M1139/big.jpg)

Damn, Italian tanks are weird and crazy and I love them.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 04-03-2017, 18:03:36
Could verify about Sichtling being a dev? Did you guys like his stuff?

Didnt notice the MP34 and M11-39 tanks in that site? You can find these items in FH2:

http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/imagesfh2/vehicles/Fiat%20M1139/big.jpg
http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/imagesfh2/weapons/Maschinenpistole%2034/big.jpg
No I noticed them, but I thought the MP-34 was made by Chad.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 04-03-2017, 21:03:28
No I noticed them, but I thought the MP-34 was made by Chad.
Chad was only an animator. One of the best we've ever had. Now 2cool2fool does animations, and he's doing some great work as well
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 05-03-2017, 08:03:04
No I noticed them, but I thought the MP-34 was made by Chad.
Chad was only an animator. One of the best we've ever had. Now 2cool2fool does animations, and he's doing some great work as well
Yes, I saw his amazing work on his YouTube channel.

I also found this in the channelog:
Quote
Changes from version 3.2.050 to 3.2.058 (2016-04-12)
----------------------------------------------------
 Levels
 ------
  * Ihantala Update (flippy)
  * Ihantala Update (flippy)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 05-03-2017, 13:03:48
Wow, you are a special kind.  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 05-03-2017, 15:03:01
Wow, you are a special kind.  ;D
Who me???
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 11-03-2017, 17:03:55
There has been a news drought. Maybe everything is quiet because of an anouncment? I haven't fired a Mosin Nagant in FH2 in a week. The scarcity of the maps. But the there are many in the folders of the beta-version.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 11-03-2017, 17:03:52
Stuff is being worked on, even if the pace is a tad slow at the moment. Slow but steady.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 12-03-2017, 17:03:43
Stuff is being worked on, even if the pace is a tad slow at the moment. Slow but steady.
I know. My best guess for a new weapon is the ML-20, which was quite common in soviet artillery units. Also we have it on the Su-152.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MoustachAttack on 14-03-2017, 00:03:51
My guess for a new weapon would be yet another one for the Finnish army.. the Lahti L39
http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/684/992/d60.jpg
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst_Kroenen on 14-03-2017, 20:03:52
My guess for a new weapon would be yet another one for the Finnish army.. the Lahti L39
http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/684/992/d60.jpg

I doubt it. The lahti AT rifle was used mostly during the winter war. During the continuation war it was rather obsolete. Im guessing its something soviet. Anyone know any soviet weapons used in 43-45 that are not in the game yet?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kasztelan on 14-03-2017, 21:03:37
Well actually during Winter War they got only two L-39 :P Besides I can't imagine how it would be implemented since it weighted 50 kg so it would have to be stanionary.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 14-03-2017, 22:03:02
L39 would definitely be a 1941-42 weapon.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 17-03-2017, 08:03:33
(http://media.moddb.com/images/articles/1/33/32513/auto/fm2429-news.jpg)
Is the 21st Panzer Division going to get this in a future update?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 17-03-2017, 17:03:46
Hopefully we can put that gun to use in a more... 1940 setting :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst_Kroenen on 17-03-2017, 19:03:41
Hopefully we can put that gun to use in a more... 1940 setting :P

Thats what we are hoping too :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 23-03-2017, 21:03:40
My guess for a new weapon would be yet another one for the Finnish army.. the Lahti L39
http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/684/992/d60.jpg

I doubt it. The lahti AT rifle was used mostly during the winter war. During the continuation war it was rather obsolete. Im guessing its something soviet. Anyone know any soviet weapons used in 43-45 that are not in the game yet?
DShK is likely to be added, as it was the Soviet version of the 50cal, and was the standard heavy machine-gun of WW2. A less likely guess is the SG-43, a Soviet replacement of the Maxim MG. It was introduced in 1943. For grenades, the RG-42, designed as a replacement of the RGD-33. It was simpler and cheaper. It was produced from 1942 to 1954. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 29-03-2017, 14:03:20
For 2.53 we want to do a proper content patch with 3 new Eastern Front maps and new weapons and vehicles. That might take a bit though and as always: plans might not match up with reality  ;)
Any thoughts?? For the maps, my best guess is Tali, Olgledow and Lenino.

Also found this in the channel log:
Quote
  * Ihantala update (I can do it too!) (ts4ever)
------------------------------------------
  * Lenino (aserafimov)
  * Lenino (aserafimov)
------------------------------------------
 * Lenino. Add fw190 with Eastern Front texture. (stubbfan)

And what does this mean??
Quote
* Lenino updare. (aserafimov)

And this must have broken Seth's heart:
Quote
  * Ignore beta and france content.. this means 2.5 RC1 next (mayhemic)

And more spoilers for the French:
Quote
* Soldiers. Try out the old nice team specific death sounds for germans, americans, brits, french,
    russians and italians. (mayhemic)
::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 29-03-2017, 17:03:17
...my best guess is Tali...
:-\
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 29-03-2017, 18:03:42
...my best guess is Tali...
:-\
I meant Intnahala. But we still need a map with a T-50, right??
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 29-03-2017, 18:03:06
Some of those log entries are ollllddd ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 29-03-2017, 18:03:37
Some of those log entries are ollllddd ;D
But the maps mentioned are beeettttaaaaa  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 29-03-2017, 20:03:49
I wouldnt hold hopes for Tali to ever become a reality, simply due to the fact that it requires too many map-specific vehicles which we do not have and most likely will never get. As much as I'd love it otherwise.  :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 29-03-2017, 20:03:42
I wouldnt hold hopes for Tali to ever become a reality, simply due to the fact that it requires too many map-specific vehicles which we do not have and most likely will never get. As much as I'd love it otherwise.  :)
But it may be possible in the far future. Also, do you guys have more open urban eastern front statics than that apartment block?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 29-03-2017, 20:03:23
Also, do you guys have more open urban eastern front statics than that apartment block?

Never played in Seelow town on Seelow Heights?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 30-03-2017, 07:03:41
Also, do you guys have more open urban eastern front statics than that apartment block?

Never played in Seelow town on Seelow Heights?
I meant do we have other statics than the churches and apartment. On the Olgledow video, Ts4ever modified french statics for a more eastern European feeling.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 30-03-2017, 11:03:19
There aren't many open eastern front urban statics. We have one big set (which I think is in the public version as well, even though not all are used in 2.52: It basically consists of closed apartment blocks, with ends and corners. Some have drive through areas as well. You can mix and match them to get a city, but they are non enterable and so far only used on Seelow.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 30-03-2017, 11:03:50
There's also the yellow cityhall building, but I am not aware wether that is a map specific static to Seelow or if it's a generic static.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 30-03-2017, 11:03:27
I think it is based on a real building somewhere in Eastern Europe.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 30-03-2017, 13:03:43
There aren't many open eastern front urban statics. We have one big set (which I think is in the public version as well, even though not all are used in 2.52: It basically consists of closed apartment blocks, with ends and corners. Some have drive through areas as well. You can mix and match them to get a city, but they are non enterable and so far only used on Seelow.
Yes, I know. They look amazing on firing range. Do you guys have any plans for more. I am sure that they
will find use on some maps.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 30-03-2017, 15:03:56
IIRC they were made by Fred and he is not active atm. That being said, if more would be needed, more would be made.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 30-03-2017, 18:03:01
IIRC they were made by Fred and he is not active atm. That being said, if more would be needed, more would be made.
Ok. But the ones we have are amazing. The rural ones remind me of home :D.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 06-04-2017, 18:04:34
(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/images/wallpapers/Pour%20la%20France/800x600.jpg)
IIRC, some of the vehicles are from FH1.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 06-04-2017, 21:04:05
Aren't all of those FH1?

That looks like an FH1 promo image
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 06-04-2017, 21:04:15
Aren't all of those FH1?

That looks like an FH1 promo image
The Somua looks like a FH2 skin. I might be wrong, but that skin would be nice to have.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 06-04-2017, 21:04:52
Those are from FH1.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 10-04-2017, 19:04:16
Ok I prepared a list of possible vehicles and maps in 2.6. Warning: I am not a Dev or Betatester, I am just guessing on this update. And also all of these vehicles appeared in devblogs.

Maps (more likely to appear):
Olgledow
Tali
Prohorovka.
Dukla Pass 2.0 (updated)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3d4rNAytuI4
Battle of Portinhoikka (Showed some vehichles on the map)
http://www.sichtling.com/work_05.html
Unidentified maps:
A screen Jan posted of a village:
(http://i.imgur.com/bzXtX1w.jpg)
A video TS4ever made of a bug on an unidentifed map (could be Prohorovka):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSFY3Sop1OE
Weapons (unsure):
L-35
M1943 Mortar
Faustpatrone:
Panssarikauhu
Vehicles (again, unsure):
Finnish Stug
J-87 "Kannonvogel"
Soviet Churchill
Ferdinand
Ferdinand won't be in 2.5 sadly cause there is not map for it. It is planned for 2.51.
Bt-7 (unlikely)
T-70 (very likely)
15 cm sIG 33 (unknown)
Su-76 (no idea about it)
Po-2
Factions:
just to spice it up a bit: future Eastern Front releases might add even more factions to FH2! ;)
EDIT:
Viechles and weapons:
[Censored]
T-50 (unkown, may apear on Tali)
T-26 (if added, cannon fodder for Soviet-T-34s)
H-39 (probably in the game files)
(http://i.imgur.com/ONP61V1.jpg?2)
Maps:
[a map]
Lenino, mentioned in the channelog.
Thats it, feel free to add things to my list (*nudge*)
-FH2Max3
Post updated.  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 12-04-2017, 20:04:17
Gentlemen,

We now witness the death of the Conspiracies Thead MkII

Regrets

I also thought I had broken (http://fhforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?PHPSESSID=gfhdcou5405r4t3qp4e52k9hi1&board=1.0) in the beta forum. And found this in the internal news: Родина-мать зовёт! Translation: Mother Russian is calling!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kelmola on 12-04-2017, 21:04:02
Gentlemen,

We now witness the death of the Conspiracies Thead MkII

Regrets

I also thought I had broken (http://fhforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?PHPSESSID=gfhdcou5405r4t3qp4e52k9hi1&board=1.0) in the beta forum. And found this in the internal news: Родина-мать зовёт! Translation: Mother Russian is calling!
So, 2.6 Easter Offensive confirmed?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 12-04-2017, 21:04:44
Gentlemen,

We now witness the death of the Conspiracies Thead MkII

Regrets

I also thought I had broken (http://fhforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?PHPSESSID=gfhdcou5405r4t3qp4e52k9hi1&board=1.0) in the beta forum. And found this in the internal news: Родина-мать зовёт! Translation: Mother Russian is calling!
So, 2.6 Easter Offensive confirmed?
We know that 2.6 will have at least 3 maps, and 1 fixed:
New maps:
Olgledow
Lenino
Intnahala
Fixed maps:
Dukla Pass, version 2.0
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 23-04-2017, 13:04:08
In the internal forum here are the news:
Obey the call of duty and join the testing sessions!
Testing every Thursday and Sunday!
Родина-мать зовёт!
Join the mobile infantry!

And I beg the Devs and Beta testers to leak something. Please. If you do, I will grateful to the greatest extent!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 23-04-2017, 15:04:15
Those announcement messages are probably 3-6 years old.

That's all for today. ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 23-04-2017, 15:04:45
Those announcement messages are probably 3-6 years old.

That's all for today. ;)
How about tomorrow?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 24-04-2017, 18:04:34
Blast from the past:

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/images/news/172%20-%20finlandatwar.jpg)

Never knew FH1 had the Nagant Revolver and the PPD-34, donated from FinnWars. And they are pretty high quality....
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 24-04-2017, 19:04:28
Naw, those models were donated by Finland At War mod for Source engine. FinnWars and FH never had any dealings between each other. And these were intended for FH2, not FH, however none of them are used by FH2. Seth made the SJR Suomi and hopefully we can get the early model Suomi in at some point too. In conclusion, FH never had PPD or Nagant revolver, nor does FH2.  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 24-04-2017, 19:04:42
Naw, those models were donated by Finland At War mod for Source engine. FinnWars and FH never had any dealings between each other. And these were intended for FH2, not FH, however none of them are used by FH2. Seth made the SJR Suomi and hopefully we can get the early model Suomi in at some point too. In conclusion, FH never had PPD or Nagant revolver, nor does FH2.  :P
Early model??
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 24-04-2017, 19:04:29
There's two versions of the Suomi SMG. The one you see in the picture you posted is the early version, or type 1. This was used throughout all three wars (Winter, Continuation- and Lapland War). The model we have in FH2 is the later production model with the extended muzzle brake, hence the model was named as Suomi SJR (SJR stands for suujarru, translating to muzzle brake). After february 1943 all Suomi's made for the Finnish Army had the muzzle brake.

This means if we wanted to have Finnish maps that take place in the early Continuation War or during the Winter War, we'd need the first production model. At the same time that model could still be used in late war maps since that model was never replaced by the SJR.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 24-04-2017, 19:04:37
if we wanted
There is something fishy...
C'mon Flippy, give us a tiny hint of new plans. Please.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 24-04-2017, 20:04:32
New plans of what?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 24-04-2017, 20:04:36
New plans of what?
The next release. Just one tiny hint.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 24-04-2017, 21:04:41
The team is working on the new version.



 Happy? ::)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 24-04-2017, 22:04:43
IIRC one problem with these is that the high quality versions have faces missing (which is something done in Source Engine apparently).
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: batistadk on 24-04-2017, 22:04:37
Hey, always learning someting new. Never heard of that PPD-34 before. That thing looks like a FrankenSMG. Shares something with a MP-18, a Beretta 38 and a Reising. Super cool. About the reliability, can't say too much. Time to do a little research.

And thanks Flippy for the insight on the Suomi. Very much appreciated.

Now, FHMax, if you allow me, you are the official gravedigger in the community. I mean, you are really digging old and obscure stuff in this tread. Hope you don't mind the comment.

Best regards,

batistadk
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 25-04-2017, 00:04:03
IIRC one problem with these is that the high quality versions have faces missing (which is something done in Source Engine apparently).

Yes, some polygons are missing, indeed

At least that is the case with the Nagant revolver.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 25-04-2017, 07:04:26
Hey, always learning someting new. Never heard of that PPD-34 before. That thing looks like a FrankenSMG. Shares something with a MP-18, a Beretta 38 and a Reising. Super cool. About the reliability, can't say too much. Time to do a little research.

And thanks Flippy for the insight on the Suomi. Very much appreciated.

Now, FHMax, if you allow me, you are the official gravedigger in the community. I mean, you are really digging old and obscure stuff in this tread. Hope you don't mind the comment.

Best regards,

batistadk
It is interesting how similar the Bretta M38 and the PPD-34 look alike. But I am sure nothing is planned...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 30-04-2017, 09:04:50
(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/news/140302/fredhouse_v4.jpg)
Will we ever see this house soon? Also is there an open variant? I think everybody forgot about it, but not me.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 04-05-2017, 22:05:42
Never seen photos on this forum, ( aldo planes are well known to community) specialy for FHMax3
FINNISH AIR FORCE
(https://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/005/006/702/large/tom-van-de-wijdeven-po2-finn-03.jpg?1487812365)
(https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/005/018/921/large/tom-van-de-wijdeven-406-01.jpg?1487896587)
(https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/005/018/951/large/tom-van-de-wijdeven-ms406-fh2-02.jpg?1487896876)


Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: batistadk on 04-05-2017, 23:05:05
Wow, I mean, wow!!!

These are really beautiful models. Congrats to the devs involved. Now, that Morane is just sweet. The model and skin standards are top notch. Remember the last titles from IL-2 franchise.

The plane was in general outdated by the time it entered service in the Finnish Air Force, but, as usual, Finnish pilots were able to squeeze any advantage the type could afford. Thinking about it, I wonder if Finnish aircraft would be implemented one day, we could see a shiny and wonderful Brewster B-239. Just daydreaming here...  :)

Best regards,

batistadk

Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst_Kroenen on 04-05-2017, 23:05:25
Nicee! Don't know if those planes are official FH2 stuff but they sure do look awesome.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 04-05-2017, 23:05:58
First one is announced already, and MS406 was long time in official built but acidentally and with swiss texture. In last patch they removed it from official as I suppose they will get it ready for maybe future french map.

But this finnish air force pics wasnt seen on forum here until now. Planes were made by retired dev Herc( speciallist in plane models)

But I taught of using MS406 on maybe future Flippy map Thali as Mörkö-Morane, finnish upgrade of original. Mörkö-Morane performed very good but only 3 were converted and used in Continue war and rest in Lapand war. Aldo any Mörkö-Morane or MS406 original were involved in Battle of Tali, as this is just game , I taught that this historic point could be overlooked and thus made this map/battle even more special ( Mörkö-Morane vs Lagg  :o :D)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 05-05-2017, 00:05:53
I would never put Mörkö into maps that they dont belong to.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 05-05-2017, 09:05:10
YESS!!!! Thank you guys!!! You are just awesome!!!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: batistadk on 06-05-2017, 02:05:37
I think using the original Morane (as depicted in the photos) as a Morko would be just a license stop-gap. The engine was changed to a Klimov (improving somewhat the performance) but, more important, the weapons were updated to 4 MG's in the wings and a German MG151/20 motorkanone (the Soviet UBS were used too), improving firepower and reliability.

The original Moranes, even outdated, were used, in decreasing numbers, until the end of the war. So, they can be used as they are. I feel very fortunate that devs are prioritizing historical accuracy, but without ruining gameplay.

Best regards,

batistadk
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 06-05-2017, 10:05:23
Remember, the Finns also used BF-109s.  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: batistadk on 06-05-2017, 22:05:25
Remember, the Finns also used BF-109s.  ;)

Indeed, the G-2 and G-6 types. And these machines are much closer to reality to be used in Tali-Ihantala and in general scenarios in the 1944 Soviet Offensive. Also the FW 190 and Ju 87D's from Detachment Kuhlmey, a German unit used to bolster Finnish aerial operations during the crucial days. Just food for thoughts.

Best regards,

batistadk
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 07-05-2017, 10:05:25
But remember, there is a lot more. I think that we have a 25% chance to get the early ostfront. We even have some vehicles.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: batistadk on 09-05-2017, 00:05:19
I think that we have a 25% chance to get the early ostfront. We even have some vehicles.

Well, IMHO, our chances are lower at this very moment. Maybe in a far patch in the future. In fact, we have some German vehicles used on Mount Olympus that could be used directly in Ostfront, and others that would be ready after reskinning. But the Soviets would need much more than the BT-7. And, of course, soldier models and maps.

But yes, I'm a dreamer too. I imagine how nice would be to have a couple of winter maps, like Operation Typhoon, Demiansk Pocket and Operation Uranus. Devs can avoid some specific statics we don't have and we should see some trench sweeping work and infantry-tanks cooperation. Cool, huh?

Best regards,

batistadk
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 09-05-2017, 09:05:20
I think that we have a 25% chance to get the early ostfront. We even have some vehicles.

Well, IMHO, our chances are lower at this very moment. Maybe in a far patch in the future. In fact, we have some German vehicles used on Mount Olympus that could be used directly in Ostfront, and others that would be ready after reskinning. But the Soviets would need much more than the BT-7. And, of course, soldier models and maps.

But yes, I'm a dreamer too. I imagine how nice would be to have a couple of winter maps, like Operation Typhoon, Demiansk Pocket and Operation Uranus. Devs can avoid some specific statics we don't have and we should see some trench sweeping work and infantry-tanks cooperation. Cool, huh?

Best regards,

batistadk

(http://www.sichtling.com/images/work_05/new_image_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: batistadk on 09-05-2017, 16:05:27
Yay! That's what I could call "reeeeal goooood"!  ;D

The T-26 is, with no doubt, a huge, I mean, HUGE step towards early Ostfront. And the background with that thick pine forest looks nice too. I wonder what's the official status of early Ostfront at this very moment. But it shows we have a slight chance of see it in action one day.

Thanks for the info FHMax.

Best regards,

batistadk
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 09-05-2017, 18:05:47
And of course, a Finnish Guest:

(http://www.sichtling.com/images/work_05/new_image_2.jpg)

Now what map is that?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 09-05-2017, 18:05:51
A Finnish one ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 09-05-2017, 20:05:08
A Finnish one ;D
Not Intnahala for sure.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 09-05-2017, 20:05:38
Not Intnahala for sure.

Definitely not Intnahala.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 10-05-2017, 09:05:10
Not Intnahala for sure.

Definitely not Intnahala.
Could be Pontnohirka.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 10-05-2017, 09:05:27
Could be Pontnohirka.

It is not Pontnohirka either.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 10-05-2017, 11:05:00
It is the world famous battle of Niheilantsanti.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 10-05-2017, 13:05:31
It is the world famous battle of Niheilantsanti.
Yes, but I am not sure.....
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 10-05-2017, 16:05:21
I don't want to leak, but I might have to clear up the confusion.

The famous battle we are making is Portinminalakeaseahaisaa. Cheers! ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 10-05-2017, 18:05:23
I don't want to leak, but I might have to clear up the confusion.

The famous battle we are making is Portinminalakeaseahaisaa. Cheers! ;)
Guys, don't give yourselves sargasms. You will never spill such information so easily. And if it such a map, then this:
(http://www.sichtling.com/images/work_05/mp34_ingame_01.jpg)

THE MAP IS AN "ENVIROMENT"

Or I was trolled.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 10-05-2017, 18:05:08
It isn't just a showcase map. It's real and has a gameplay layer. :) However no-one is actively working on it atm.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 10-05-2017, 18:05:50
It isn't just a showcase map. It's real and has a gameplay layer. :) However no-one is actively working on it atm.
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/DnK1c1sHJqg/maxresdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 11-05-2017, 17:05:00
Will Finish soldiers on Intnahala get the L-35 or the Dp-28??
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 11-05-2017, 17:05:48
No they will get the handheld M4 ZPU.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 11-05-2017, 18:05:49
No they will get the handheld M4 ZPU.
Finnish Bias!!! I knew it. We see it ingame with the Suomi Kp-31 (Muzzle brake)!!!!!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 11-05-2017, 18:05:21
No it wont be paired with the Suomi in the same kit, that would be silly. It'll have the KP m/44.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 11-05-2017, 18:05:40
No it wont be paired with the Suomi in the same kit, that would be silly. It'll have the KP m/44.
Is this now FHSW2OP???
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 11-05-2017, 19:05:31
Unfortunately we dont have Finnish aircraft available.
You guys lie.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 11-05-2017, 19:05:30
Alternative facts.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 11-05-2017, 19:05:30
Never trust moderators.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 11-05-2017, 19:05:39
But Anakin, you are breaking my heart.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 11-05-2017, 19:05:50
But Anakin, you are breaking my heart.
I will apologize for a "donation" to the conspiracy community in a form of a graphic aid.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 11-05-2017, 20:05:39
Fine, you got me by the balls.

http://i.imgur.com/PZFdT71.jpg
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 11-05-2017, 21:05:38
Whose been massacring the horses!  >:( :'(
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Alubat on 11-05-2017, 22:05:35
Whose been massacring the horses!  >:( :'(

Maybe because of

(https://media.giphy.com/media/v7nJDobMjY5MY/giphy.gif)

Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MajorMajor on 11-05-2017, 23:05:10
Mount Ormel? It's good to finally see a picture of it. :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 12-05-2017, 11:05:45
No. It is in 1944 as seen with the Panther, unless the devs made a D variant. It is not Lennio, as seen the devs are focusing in eastern front. Byelorussia. Next time I will get Flippy by the d*ck!!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 12-05-2017, 12:05:51
Mount Ormel? It's good to finally see a picture of it. :)

Yeah it is Mont Ormel, a map I worked on with Natty like a lifetime ago. I recently picked it up from the cosmoline and worked on it for a brief moment. I doubt I'll ever finish it.

Tried to recreate the scene from the Death's Corridor on top of the hill:
http://odkrywca.pl/forum_pics/picsforum13/panther_mont_ormel_03.jpg
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 12-05-2017, 16:05:26
Mount Ormel?
No. It is in 1944 as seen with the Panther...
wow ::)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 12-05-2017, 17:05:55
Mount Ormel?
No. It is in 1944 as seen with the Panther...
wow ::)
In what time will you spill something next???
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kasztelan on 12-05-2017, 22:05:04
Mount Ormel? It's good to finally see a picture of it. :)

Yeah it is Mont Ormel, a map I worked on with Natty like a lifetime ago. I recently picked it up from the cosmoline and worked on it for a brief moment. I doubt I'll ever finish it.


Please don't let this map die :( I understand that Poland won't be in the FH2 on 1939 maps, but I hope that at least maps like Mt Ormel and Lenino will bring Polish armies on Forgotten Hope battlefields. Please don't let them be forgotten ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 14-05-2017, 10:05:22
Mount Ormel? It's good to finally see a picture of it. :)

Yeah it is Mont Ormel, a map I worked on with Natty like a lifetime ago. I recently picked it up from the cosmoline and worked on it for a brief moment. I doubt I'll ever finish it.

Please don't let this map die :( I understand that Poland won't be in the FH2 on 1939 maps, but I hope that at least maps like Mt Ormel and Lenino will bring Polish armies on Forgotten Hope battlefields. Please don't let them be forgotten ;)
We could modify the Warsaw Uprising map from french hope with some statics, modify the kits, and tah-da! We have a Polish map!!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 14-05-2017, 11:05:40
I'll finish it.
You made a promise.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 15-05-2017, 20:05:34
Time to revive this thread!
Since we saw the PZ-3 M in the Prohorovka blog, it turns out it was ported from FH-1. Maybe the winter cammo was also ported??


(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSBmQ_5xnSRHROGYot1Mi-Ninz4sF5F1Fh2wikiw0Ac99ZmYV3_dw)

Also:
(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/news/140722/LA5FN_1.jpg)

(http://media.moddb.com/images/articles/1/131/130120/auto/po2.jpg)

(http://media.moddb.com/images/articles/1/112/111376/BT7_2.jpg)

Winter maps confirmed???

If it does happen, here is a example of Russian Cammo:

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/06/23/article-2007072-00D3E71600000190-346_634x432.jpg)
Doable without glitches??

Coincidence?? Don't think so......
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 15-05-2017, 20:05:42
After reading about the battle of the Demyansk Pocket, I think it would be a perfect Soviet winter map. Kind of like Siege of Tobruk, but with snow and Russian statics. I can still dream  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 15-05-2017, 20:05:20
After reading about the battle of the Demyansk Pocket, I think it would be a perfect Soviet winter map. Kind of like Siege of Tobruk, but with snow and Russian statics. I can still dream  :P
Or a map in East Prussia, when the soviets were advancing on Konisberg. They wore such uniforms. Coming in 2019!!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 16-05-2017, 16:05:04
Ahemm... The conspiracy community hosting leaks and speculations requires donations by devs and beta testers generous people to keep it alive.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 16-05-2017, 20:05:48
Ahemm... The conspiracy community hosting leaks and speculations requires donations by devs and beta testers generous people to keep it alive.

Damn, I don't think anyone on this forum is as persistent as you, FHMax3. You got a lot of energy. Keep annoying the devs, perhaps they'll continue dropping classified material on this thread.  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 16-05-2017, 20:05:26
Ahemm... The conspiracy community hosting leaks and speculations requires donations by devs and beta testers generous people to keep it alive.

Damn, I don't think anyone on this forum is as persistent as you, FHMax3. You got a lot of energy. Keep annoying the devs, perhaps they'll continue dropping classified material on this thread.  ;D
Yes. I have some interesting shit stuff:

Spoiler
(http://www.bfewaw.com/campaigns/waw23/promo/campaign/WaWpromoVehicles3.jpg)
(http://www.bfewaw.com/campaigns/waw23/promo/campaign/WaWpromoVariants.jpg)
(http://www.bfewaw.com/campaigns/waw23/promo/campaign/WaWpromoSkins.jpg)
(http://www.bfewaw.com/campaigns/waw23/promo/campaign/WaWpromoNavy.jpg)

8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 16-05-2017, 23:05:47
Time to revive this thread!
Yes! It has been an entire day after all!  ;D

Btw, can't spill anything, sorry.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 17-05-2017, 18:05:07
Time to revive this thread!
Yes! It has been an entire day after all!  ;D

Btw, can't spill anything, sorry.
Then it is Jan, Flippy, Roughbeak and TS4ever who have to spill! This is you moral obligation!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 17-05-2017, 18:05:52
Nope.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 17-05-2017, 18:05:04
Nope.
Jan, Roughbeak and TS4ever are left?
Who will chicken out next?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 17-05-2017, 19:05:36
I have some interesting shit stuff...
Wow! You've just dig out another post from 2009! That Tupolev is available on the Bombing of Constanta map which is a part of United Front minimod that is dead for almost a decade now.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 21-05-2017, 11:05:06
I have a potential list for vehicles on Prohorovka (Tanks and planes)

Germany:
Panzer 3 M
Panzer 3 N
Panzer 4 H
Tiger 1 H
Stug 3 G
Marder 3
Ju-87
Ju-87 "Kannonvogel"
Bf-109 G/E

Soviet Union:
T-70
T-34 1943
Kv-1s
Su-76M
Su-152
La-5FN
Il-2
Churchill MkIII
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 21-05-2017, 11:05:24
You forgot the Churchill tanks.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 21-05-2017, 12:05:07
You forgot the Churchill tanks.
Yes, I did. But I need verification of an image that is the latest-2017
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 21-05-2017, 12:05:56
Yes, I did. But I need verification of an image that is the latest-2017

So how did you come up with the other vehicles?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 21-05-2017, 12:05:34
Yes, I did. But I need verification of an image that is the latest-2017

So how did you come up with the other vehicles?
Some I guessed of the FH1 version, others, research.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 21-05-2017, 12:05:32
You truly are a top notch scientist.  :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 21-05-2017, 12:05:49
You truly are a top notch scientist.  :)
And a conspiracy member.
(https://t4.ftcdn.net/jpg/00/05/58/99/500_F_5589926_bzXHlwop1KUNIqC1Gy64dvXUtyJiinE9.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 21-05-2017, 12:05:34
I hope that is the only picture of a bodypart you are going to post.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 21-05-2017, 12:05:36
I hope that is the only picture of a bodypart you are going to post.
How about a picture of genitals?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 21-05-2017, 12:05:09
If you want to get banned.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 21-05-2017, 12:05:05
If you want to get banned.
Fine, but I need verification for the Churchill on Prohorovka *ahem*.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 21-05-2017, 12:05:32
It's listed here (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/fh2_vehicles.php?country=5&type=1) and it haven't been used on any other eastern front map so far. It's it enough?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 21-05-2017, 12:05:25
It's listed here (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/fh2_vehicles.php?country=5&type=1) and it haven't been used on any other eastern front map so far. It's it enough?
Yes, but I was expecting a leaked photo....  ::)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Eat Uranium on 21-05-2017, 16:05:58
Yes, but I was expecting a leaked photo....  ::)
(http://www.dronemediaimaging.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/waterleak.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 21-05-2017, 17:05:16
Hmm... Nice humor, but maybe a real conspiracy behind this. Photo has water. Karelia has water. New map confirmed!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 21-05-2017, 17:05:29
Pacific ocean has some water too, incase you havent noticed.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Rokka on 21-05-2017, 19:05:40
Water has 5 letters, Illuminati doesnt = Illuminati confirmed
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 22-05-2017, 06:05:00
Pacific ocean has some water too, incase you havent noticed.
We have that in CMP. We are focusing on eastern front.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 23-05-2017, 18:05:35
Today I was going about my buisness, and realized there can't be just one Finnish map in the works, can there. So I started thinking about Lapland. Maybe we will get the Panzer 4 G and the Finnish variant? Please conspire.  ;)

Maybe we will get Simo Häyhä pickup kit? Spawns once, player has a ****** cheek!

Also we must get the buete sherman:
(http://i.imgur.com/bGLW4XB.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 23-05-2017, 19:05:55
The beutepanzer Sherman was a texture I did for funsies :P

I don't think there's a map that could use one anyway.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 23-05-2017, 19:05:15
The beutepanzer Sherman was a texture I did for funsies :P

I don't think there's a map that could use one anyway.
(http://www.theshermantank.com/wp-content/uploads/m4_2-.jpg)
(http://www.achtungpanzer.com/images/firefly_3.jpg)
(http://www.beutepanzer.ru/Beutepanzer/us/M4_sherman/su/sherman-75-01.jpg)
(http://beutepanzer.ru/Beutepanzer/us/M4_sherman/sherman-76-02.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 23-05-2017, 19:05:45
Maybe we will get Simo Häyhä pickup kit?

That is called the rifleman that you select from your class menu.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 23-05-2017, 19:05:41
Maybe we will get Simo Häyhä pickup kit?

That is called the rifleman that you select from your class menu.
I mean an easter egg with Haya's rifle. Like the Scotish sword.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 23-05-2017, 20:05:16
While granted we do not have M28-30 ingame, it would be redundant to have it anyways since its just another slightly different Mosin. And since we are not making Winter War, it would be pointless to make that rifle just for an easter egg.

You can pretend to be Häyhä by just using your default rifle.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 23-05-2017, 20:05:43
While granted we do not have M28-30 ingame, it would be redundant to have it anyways since its just another slightly different Mosin. And since we are not making Winter War, it would be pointless to make that rifle just for an easter egg.

You can pretend to be Häyhä by just using your default rifle.
Off to spy the server for Sammutus!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 23-05-2017, 20:05:24
https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sammutus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefighting

How much of a difference one letter can make.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 23-05-2017, 20:05:31
https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sammutus

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefighting

How much of a difference one letter can make.
Flippy just gave us a new topic to conspire about! Thanks!
My best guess is revamped Sammuttus? With flamethrowers?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 23-05-2017, 20:05:55
It will be like Oprah show, everyone will get a brand new american made flamethrower...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 23-05-2017, 20:05:54
It will be like Oprah show, everyone will get a brand new american made flamethrower...
NIEN FLAMMENWEFFER IST GUT!!
or the ROKS. Who knows. Maybe Flippy is trolling me?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 23-05-2017, 20:05:41
I thought you were trolling us.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 23-05-2017, 20:05:13
I thought you were trolling us.
What did I even do?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 23-05-2017, 22:05:37
Maybe Flippy is trolling me?
I thought you were trolling us.

(http://i.imgur.com/Qxfb4lz.gif)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 24-05-2017, 18:05:04
Not sure where to post this, but has Forgotten Hope always had a TV Tropes page?

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/ForgottenHope
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 25-05-2017, 08:05:40
Not sure where to post this, but has Forgotten Hope always had a TV Tropes page?

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/ForgottenHope
Love this:
Quote
Gun Porn
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 25-05-2017, 13:05:21
(http://i.imgur.com/Qxfb4lz.gif)
This is how I imagine Roughbeak in real life.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: :| Hi on 25-05-2017, 23:05:25
Not sure where to post this, but has Forgotten Hope always had a TV Tropes page?

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/ForgottenHope


Looks like the first time it was documented was Jun 7th, 2013
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 26-05-2017, 08:05:11
Not sure where to post this, but has Forgotten Hope always had a TV Tropes page?

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/VideoGame/ForgottenHope


Looks like the first time it was documented was Jun 7th, 2013
Hey! You are back!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 30-05-2017, 19:05:23
Is there any chance we might see Lapland War? With Finnish Pz-4 J tanks and German buete panzers?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 30-05-2017, 20:05:04
Is there any chance we might see Lapland War? With Finnish Pz-4 J tanks and German buete panzers?

That would be an interesting subject but I dont think anyone is working on anything like that. I doubt anyone really has much interest in that war so theres very little chance any of the mappers would do anything like this. Might be something the CMP guys can look into? I dont know.

However, gotta burst your bubble about the Finnish Panzer IV's. They were not used in combat. They were transferred to Lapland but they did not see action at all. Smaller light tanks and T-34's were used instead.

One of the most interesting battles would be battles of Tornionlaakso (Tornio valley) where the germans used old Somua and the smaller H35/H39 tanks in the counterattacks against the Finns.

I see Lapland War very unlikely to happen.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 30-05-2017, 20:05:02
Is there any chance we might see Lapland War? With Finnish Pz-4 J tanks and German buete panzers?

That would be an interesting subject but I dont think anyone is working on anything like that. I doubt anyone really has much interest in that war so theres very little chance any of the mappers would do anything like this. Might be something the CMP guys can look into? I dont know.

However, gotta burst your bubble about the Finnish Panzer IV's. They were not used in combat. They were transferred to Lapland but they did not see action at all. Smaller light tanks and T-34's were used instead.

One of the most interesting battles would be battles of Tornionlaakso (Tornio valley) where the germans used old Somua and the smaller H35/H39 tanks in the counterattacks against the Finns.

I see Lapland War very unlikely to happen.
Don't crush my dreams!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Alubat on 30-05-2017, 21:05:32

IF I remember correct "Invasion of Tornio - Finland 1944" is in the works of CMP :-)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 30-05-2017, 22:05:54
We'll see what kind of an interesting design they'll come up with then..

EDIT: I just fear that it, just like many other of their projects, are a bit too ambitious and their research department is not that great when it comes to little details. Would again focus on fewer maps and polish them to perfection rather than have many half-assed ones. :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: GeoPat on 31-05-2017, 04:05:06
Is this a CMP conspiracy thread now? 
Most of our maps were made long ago by various people.  I'm not sure if we have a research department.  If you have any good info on a battle to share please do.  I personally have trouble with my ambitious projects as English information is often not very good.  Anyone got some good stuff on the battle at Hochwald Gap, Operation Blockbuster?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MajorMajor on 31-05-2017, 11:05:45
I personally have trouble with my ambitious projects as English information is often not very good.  Anyone got some good stuff on the battle at Hochwald Gap, Operation Blockbuster?

Forgotten Victory: First Canadian Army and the Cruel Winter of 1944-45 by Mark Zeuhlke should cover that. I haven't read it, but I have read the books by this author on the Normandy breakout and the Scheldt operations and they were good. Not sure what kind of information you're looking for though, so it might be either too much or too little.

A quick google search also gave me this:

http://publications.gc.ca/collections/collection_2009/forces/D61-23-1948E.pdf
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 31-05-2017, 13:05:39
What about a map set in the Baltic states?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 04-06-2017, 14:06:04
Also, will we get flamethrower versions of the T34 tanks? They were used at seelow heights.

Ps, it has been a while.....
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 04-06-2017, 15:06:36
Also, will we get flamethrower versions of the T34 tanks? They were used at seelow heights.

Ps, it has been a while.....

I believe there was talk about including an OT-34 in Seelow but I dont know if that was just thinking out loud by someone or not.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 04-06-2017, 15:06:25
Also, will we get flamethrower versions of the T34 tanks? They were used at seelow heights.

Ps, it has been a while.....

I believe there was talk about including an OT-34 in Seelow but I dont know if that was just thinking out loud by someone or not.
Well, can it work in the BF2 engine?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 04-06-2017, 15:06:58
Of course it can. We have the Churchill crocodile and M1A1 Flamethrower in game already. I guess its just if someone wants to or can adjust the hull MG a tad bit to make it into the flamethrower, then its about coding it. It is not impossible thing to do, its just about if someone wants to do it and if we really need them. Ts4Ever might have some more insight on if this is something that may or may not happen since he worked on Seelow.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 04-06-2017, 15:06:49
Of course it can. We have the Churchill crocodile and M1A1 Flamethrower in game already. I guess its just if someone wants to or can adjust the hull MG a tad bit to make it into the flamethrower, then its about coding it. It is not impossible thing to do, its just about if someone wants to do it and if we really need them. Ts4Ever might have some more insight on if this is something that may or may not happen since he worked on Seelow.
Were OT flame tanks used in Intnahala? Also what is the chance we will see Finnish T-34 tanks
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 04-06-2017, 16:06:36
I dont know what Intnahala is.

Chance to see Finnish T-34 tanks is very low.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 04-06-2017, 16:06:12
I dont know what Intnahala is.
I meant Ihantala
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 04-06-2017, 16:06:47
There were no flamethrower tanks used in Ihantala to my knowledge.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 04-06-2017, 16:06:50
There were no flamethrower tanks used in Ihantala to my knowledge.
Well, Floppy, can you leak at least something?

EDIT: My, do I not check my spelling
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 04-06-2017, 16:06:47
So answering your constant questions is not enough? Dont push your luck boychik.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 04-06-2017, 16:06:49
So answering your constant questions is not enough? Dont push your luck boychik.
This thread is for leaking, Sir.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: GeoPat on 04-06-2017, 18:06:30
Yeah, Floppy WarmBeer, give us something.
~ pardon my spelling.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 04-06-2017, 19:06:18
Floppy WarmBeer
Better:
Flopsterie Weirdabar
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 04-06-2017, 19:06:18
Nope. Nothing for you. You are being mean.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 04-06-2017, 19:06:42
Nope. Nothing for you. You are being mean.
Oh, to the great moderator, Sir Flippy Warbear

We sincerely apologize for unethical and immature behavior and do sincerely hope that you accept this apology.

-Max and Geopat
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 04-06-2017, 20:06:25
I did request a flamethrower T34 for seelow at one point. You know the one that spawns at the house in the first sector? That was supposed to have a flame thrower.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 09-06-2017, 12:06:26
So D-Day has just passed and now is June 9th. A forgotten but an important date nonetheless, at least to us finns. Even thought battles of Tali did not start until the 20th and then escalated on 25th, I thought adding a drop in the big sea and post current (WIP) minimap (http://i.imgur.com/lhHXNJt.png).
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 09-06-2017, 16:06:34
So D-Day has just passed and now is June 9th. A forgotten but an important date nonetheless, at least to us finns. Even thought battles of Tali did not start until the 20th and then escalated on 25th, I thought adding a drop in the big sea and post current (WIP) minimap (http://i.imgur.com/lhHXNJt.png).
Thank you Flippy!!! And Valleyman for notifying me on the 762 server. This is amazing work!! Will the Finns get T-50? Any chance for a T-28?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 09-06-2017, 22:06:51
Will the Finns get T-50? Any chance for a T-28?

T-50 would indeed be used in Tali since it would be the only battle where that tank was used. It was used as the command tank during the counterattack to Portinhoikka.

T-28, as much as I'd love to get it... I dont think so. Unless some magical being would provide us with one.

EDIT: I must pee on your parade thought. This map is currently on hold. I am occupied by other project currently. Main reason why this map might not get finished at all is the lack of vehicles. We do not have the manpower to get the vehicles needed for this map, and I personally dont see much point in finishing the map if the main selling point (the vehicles which only saw use in this battle) would not be there.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Leopardi on 10-06-2017, 08:06:48
Will the Finns get T-50? Any chance for a T-28?

T-50 would indeed be used in Tali since it would be the only battle where that tank was used. It was used as the command tank during the counterattack to Portinhoikka.

T-28, as much as I'd love to get it... I dont think so. Unless some magical being would provide us with one.

EDIT: I must pee on your parade thought. This map is currently on hold. I am occupied by other project currently. Main reason why this map might not get finished at all is the lack of vehicles. We do not have the manpower to get the vehicles needed for this map, and I personally dont see much point in finishing the map if the main selling point (the vehicles which only saw use in this battle) would not be there.
T-50, Sturmi, then slap Finnish skin on the T-34 and Messerschmitt..  what more would it require?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 10-06-2017, 08:06:33
T-50, Sturmi, then slap Finnish skin on the T-34 and Messerschmitt..  what more would it require?

First of all, we dont have the correct T-34 model that was used here. Second of all we'd need a KV-1 model 1942 for the Finns as well. If we wanted to go real fancy, we'd still need the T-28, T-34-85 and ISU-152.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MajorMajor on 10-06-2017, 09:06:30
This map is currently on hold. I am occupied by other project currently.

Sad to hear. Hopefully your other project is also FH2-related.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 10-06-2017, 10:06:17
lack of vehicles.
Ahemm... Seth??
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 10-06-2017, 10:06:49
Sad to hear. Hopefully your other project is also FH2-related.

It is. Been since 2011 or so.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 10-06-2017, 10:06:32
Sad to hear. Hopefully your other project is also FH2-related.

It is. Been since 2011 or so.
I played finnwars recently and there was a map made by you.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 10-06-2017, 10:06:08
I played finnwars recently and there was a map made by you.

Uh huh? I used to map quite a lot back in the BF42 days. Made few maps for FinnWars. Two or three if I remember right. Good old BF42 mapping where you can churn out maps in no time.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 10-06-2017, 10:06:09
I played finnwars recently and there was a map made by you.

Uh huh? I used to map quite a lot back in the BF42 days. Made few maps for FinnWars. Two or three if I remember right. Good old BF42 mapping where you can churn out maps in no time.
Wish that was the case with BF2
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 11-06-2017, 10:06:53
T-50, Sturmi, then slap Finnish skin on the T-34 and Messerschmitt..  what more would it require?

First of all, we dont have the correct T-34 model that was used here. Second of all we'd need a KV-1 model 1942 for the Finns as well. If we wanted to go real fancy, we'd still need the T-28, T-34-85 and ISU-152.
Well this requires new turrets for sure, and some reskining. Although with these vehicles, you would have more possibility for early ostfront somewhere in 2020.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 14-06-2017, 08:06:44
Anyway, what happened with conspiracies? This is turning into an ask me anything thread! We need hints to conspire bout FH2!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 14-06-2017, 19:06:13
Anyway, what happened with conspiracies?
You.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 16-06-2017, 06:06:57
Anyway, what happened with conspiracies?
You.
Yay!! Jan is back!!! So I will conspire about that image you posted of a generic eastern front village in 1943.

1. It may possibly occur on the Dniepr river, or during the Donbass strategic offensive.
2. Then again it could occur around Orel, where the Ferdinands massacred Soviet tanks.
3. It could represent Kharkov and the clashes around it.
4. It could represent the battles in the North, where soviet forces attempted to break through german defensive lines.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 22-06-2017, 21:06:28
Enough talk, more pics! ;)

(http://i.imgur.com/kxWvzDj.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MajorMajor on 22-06-2017, 21:06:12
If I had to guess I'd say this is the Ogledow polish manor... Anyway, it looks pretty good and I hope to storm those stairs soonTM.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst_Kroenen on 23-06-2017, 00:06:46
This manor sure looks nice!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 23-06-2017, 09:06:43
Enough talk, more pics! ;)

(http://i.imgur.com/kxWvzDj.jpg)
YAY!!!! (Is this a birthday gift?). The Manor looks nice. Only lightmapping is needed.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 23-06-2017, 10:06:55
Also furniture.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 23-06-2017, 21:06:12
I'm glad you like the *structure*. ;)

It will indeed have many gorgeous parts such as this shot!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 27-06-2017, 11:06:22
Soo... any clanking of Ferdy tracks in the "near" future?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 27-06-2017, 15:06:50
There is a WIP map that currently includes this beast
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 28-06-2017, 10:06:24
There is a WIP map that currently includes this beast
Lenino!!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 28-06-2017, 20:06:37
There is a WIP map that currently includes this beast

Thanks. A beast huh, that must mean something good 8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 28-06-2017, 20:06:33
A beast that once it gets flanked, it turns into Sotka chow.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 02-07-2017, 14:07:11
A beast that once it gets flanked, it turns into Sotka chow.

Rightie. It's also noted that the engine gratings were a weak spot: a HE round near to the gratings was enough to set the vehicle ablaze.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 05-07-2017, 14:07:26
Any Berlin conspiracies yet?  Borgward IV, Pantherturm, Panzerjäger IB, even Mark V  :o
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 27-07-2017, 17:07:20
(http://i.imgur.com/vrvemgJ.png)

Thanks Flippy!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 13-08-2017, 19:08:59
Alright everyone!!! Get your ass up and get it here!!

TS recently said in the Discord (accidentally) that the new patch is out. (Beta) What could it be?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 13-08-2017, 19:08:34
TS recently said in the Discord (accidentally) that the new patch is out. (Beta) What could it be?
New beta (internal) patches are being released almost on weekly basis. Nothing to get excited about.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 13-08-2017, 19:08:14
sigh
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 13-08-2017, 20:08:28
lots of cool stuff int here atm tho ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 14-08-2017, 08:08:53
lots of cool stuff int here atm tho ;)

Any new vehicles... that we don't know of (yet) ?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 14-08-2017, 14:08:54
No, but hand weapons.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 14-08-2017, 16:08:47
Hmmm. DShK??
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 14-08-2017, 17:08:29
Ts4EVER said "weapons", and that means more than one, what is your next guess?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 14-08-2017, 17:08:27
L-39 AA variant? SG-43?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 14-08-2017, 17:08:22
well, so far none of the weapons you mentioned is a hand weapon  ::)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 14-08-2017, 17:08:19
hmmm. M1895 Nagant Revolver? RKS or FOG-2 flamethrower?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 14-08-2017, 18:08:20
I believe I have the answer:

(https://i0.wp.com/www.wargunmods.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/sks-white.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 14-08-2017, 19:08:19
and what can they be if mentioned weapons aren't soviet?  ???
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 14-08-2017, 21:08:15
Finnish AT mine?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 14-08-2017, 21:08:43
The handheld AT mine, you mean?  ??? :-X
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 14-08-2017, 23:08:40
No, but hand weapons.

Of course, french weapons  :P

Need to speed up mapping. Also how many mappers are in dev team (3?)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: ctbear1996 on 15-08-2017, 05:08:39
Any visual or effect update in the next patch? I'd like to see some improvement on immersion.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 15-08-2017, 21:08:04
Yeah that would definately be lovely. I remember when the effects were updated, everyone was blown away by all the awesomeness.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 26-08-2017, 23:08:51
One question,maybe asking too much: Is there Panzer38 in beta?
So great tank, all czech tanks are great
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 27-08-2017, 00:08:17
No 38 in the works. Unless Seth has something hiding up his sleeve :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Captain Pyjama Shark on 27-08-2017, 01:08:13
Is the lettering on the Churchill tank meant to look a bit like "Ts4ever"?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: fighterpil on 27-08-2017, 02:08:52
I don't know, can you upload a picture?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 27-08-2017, 02:08:40
it's on the website under vehicles

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/imagesfh2/vehicles/Churchill%20AVRE_4/big.jpg)

and no ;D it has nothing to do with TS. British tank serial numbers start with T
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 27-08-2017, 09:08:46
Also I was no dev back then, not even tester when the model and skin were made.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 29-08-2017, 19:08:22
No 38 in the works. Unless Seth has something hiding up his sleeve :P
Wait are we getting the Lt-vz-38? (pz-38t)!!??
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 03-09-2017, 10:09:16
and what can they be if mentioned weapons aren't soviet?  ???
My previous guess was shit, so I am thinking about the MP-41, you can modify MP-40 model.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 03-09-2017, 15:09:33
I believe I have the answer (again):

(http://modernfirearms.net/userfiles/images/assault/as91/mkb42h-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 14-10-2017, 22:10:26
Yes, map is pretty generic, but that's the point. It's a conquest map, representing a part of a bigger front in 1943. Also, river crossings are the key words, yet we talk about different river. Keep it coming  ;)

Potemkin villages-  Dnieper

 Battle/Crossing of Dnieper.. Battle that involved 4milion people. Just need to precise it
-Battle of Poltava?
-Breaktrough of Kremenchuk-Dnipropetrovsk line?
-Attack and secure lodgements(which one?) on west Dnieper and defend against German counterattack?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 12-11-2017, 10:11:28
I was wondering if Soviets could have lend-lease weapons. (Tommy gun, bazooka, etc)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hjaldrgud on 18-12-2017, 14:12:46
Top sikreett leek frum an anonymoos soarse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xkz2j1qm66k
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Leopardi on 18-12-2017, 17:12:20
Top sikreett leek frum an anonymoos soarse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xkz2j1qm66k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj7M80KUGxU
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 18-12-2017, 21:12:50
I think I saw Polish eagle on a T-34!  :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Musti on 18-12-2017, 22:12:27
That would explain the polish flag on the capping point :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 18-12-2017, 22:12:00
That would explain the polish flag on the capping point :D
Didn't notice the flag. Does this map take place at Studzianki? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Studzianki
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst on 19-12-2017, 14:12:32
Looks like battle of lenino?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Roughbeak on 19-12-2017, 16:12:31
(http://i.imgur.com/ZPgqHIV.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: aserafimov on 19-12-2017, 17:12:48
That should be St. Petersburg church, right?  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst on 19-12-2017, 22:12:33
I already was wondering, if the church simulator was discontinued.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst_Kroenen on 21-12-2017, 00:12:32
The church looks really nice and authentic. And whats with that polish flag? Are the poles fighting for the sovients now?
Guess someone didn't told these guys how Poland was attacked by the USSR in '39. Still nice to see. Wonder what that map is. I think we see the 37 mm cannon stuka flying there.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 21-12-2017, 04:12:21
Guess someone didn't told these guys how Poland was attacked by the USSR in '39. Still nice to see.

I can feel Jan's Polish senses tingling. I foresee a post about Polish-Soviet relations incoming ;D

[Super Simplify]Operation Barbarossa kinda left the Soviet's in need of Allies. Then things like the Sikorski–Mayski agreement (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikorski%E2%80%93Mayski_agreement) tried to re-establish diplomatic relations. Then I guess you could call the Russians and Polish 'reluctant coworkers' for most of the war.[/Super Simplify]

The Polish did have an almost autonomous force under the Soviets tho.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 21-12-2017, 16:12:37
Holly fucking shit, this is some fuck ton of conspiracies! Damn too sad I have probs with my online account so won't be able to enjoy it anytime soon  :'(
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 21-12-2017, 17:12:36
Guess someone didn't told these guys how Poland was attacked by the USSR in '39.

[Super Simplify]Operation Barbarossa kinda left the Soviet's in need of Allies. Then things like the Sikorski–Mayski agreement (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikorski%E2%80%93Mayski_agreement) tried to re-establish diplomatic relations. Then I guess you could call the Russians and Polish 'reluctant coworkers' for most of the war.[/Super Simplify]
^this.

Btw, those guys who fought on the Soviet side are the very same people who were beaten and gullaged after the '39. I'm pretty sure they remember very well themselves how Poland was attacked by the USSR. Lucky for them, Hitler falling out with Stalin two years later gave them oppourtunity to leave Gulags and join freshly created Polish army under the Soviet Command. Since their first battle in 1943 they fought all the way untill the Battle of Berlin. They didn't complain. Politics didn't matter all that much for the regular people, they just wanted to fight back for their country again, Poland didn't exist at the time, with its lands completely occupated by the Germans who wanted to turn polish citizens into a cheap/slave labour for the German "master race". There was something to fight for.

Polish Army on West never had the opportunity to actually fight for Poland on a Polish soil, unlike these lads.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 27-12-2017, 18:12:32
Ts4ever-Ogledow
Flippy-Tali
Jan/Aserafimov-Lenino (maybe he started it and Aserafimov continoued it/ that sistem two devs work on one map)
Fuchswiesel-Prohorovka (maybe he is non-active by now/saw one Flippy comment on youtube: Prok is on way of Dodo. Prokorovka is really bad luck..)
hitm4k3r-???

5 maps.... Not bad
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 03-01-2018, 21:01:20
Jan/Aserafimov-Lenino (maybe he started it and Aserafimov continoued it/ that sistem two devs work on one map)
I'm not a dev. Lenino is not my project.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 11-03-2018, 10:03:29
(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/news/140722/LA5FN_2.jpg)
How could anyone not notice this  :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 11-03-2018, 11:03:07
"What? It is just a Focke Wulf with a... ooooooh..."
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 11-03-2018, 12:03:57
"What? It is just a Focke Wulf with a... ooooooh..."
Yea a focke wulf with 3 20 mills  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 11-03-2018, 12:03:13
"What? It is just a Focke Wulf with a... ooooooh..."
Yea a focke wulf with 3 20 mills  ;D
As far as I know this "Focke Wulf" has two 20mm ShVAK cannons, not three.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 11-03-2018, 12:03:45
"What? It is just a Focke Wulf with a... ooooooh..."
Yea a focke wulf with 3 20 mills  ;D
As far as I know this "Focke Wulf" has two 20mm ShVAK cannons, not three.
I must have mixed it up with the Focke Wulf 7
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kasztelan on 12-03-2018, 20:03:48
OK here's a little conspiracy that I came up with today. So, after recent update of weapon list I noticed that Maxim dissapeared from Finish section and I wonder if it's just a mistake or maybe... just maybe, devs are cooking new model for us to play with. If that's the case then propably it's M/32-33.

Also about appareantly not complete vehicle list of Lenino... I bet there is some new Soviet tank. Being Polish I've red about that battle and there was a Polish 1. Tank Regiment with T-34 and since it isn't listed on the map page I presume that we can expect a model of earlier version of T-34, probably model 1941.

Any thoughts guys?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 12-03-2018, 21:03:19
Also about appareantly not complete vehicle list of Lenino... I bet there is some new Soviet tank. Being Polish I've red about that battle and there was a Polish 1. Tank Regiment with T-34 and since it isn't listed on the map page I presume that we can expect a model of earlier version of T-34, probably model 1941.

Any thoughts guys?

Nah mate, check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xkz2j1qm66k

Poles will definitely get T-34 model 1943 tanks with their respective Polish eagles painted on. Perhaps we will see these renders in full glory in a future news update?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kasztelan on 12-03-2018, 21:03:00
Nah mate, check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xkz2j1qm66k

Poles will definitely get T-34 model 1943 tanks with their respective Polish eagles painted on. Perhaps we will see these renders in full glory in a future news update?

I don't know, I'm aware of this texture cause it's even in game files, but if it was supposed to be model 1943 then it would already been listed.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Eat Uranium on 12-03-2018, 23:03:41
The lists of vehicles and weapons is currently subject to some maintenance, as some bugs in the way it works have been fixed and some new back-end features added.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 13-03-2018, 10:03:14
Were any Polish-originated weapons or vehicles used by Polish forces under Soviet command?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kasztelan on 13-03-2018, 11:03:04
Were any Polish-originated weapons or vehicles used by Polish forces under Soviet command?

Unfortunately not. The only unique piece of equipment were uniforms. They had different jacket and rogatywka field caps.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FHMax3 on 13-03-2018, 17:03:57
Were any Polish-originated weapons or vehicles used by Polish forces under Soviet command?

Unfortunately not. The only unique piece of equipment were uniforms. They had different jacket and rogatywka field caps.
So that means new uniforms?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kasztelan on 13-03-2018, 17:03:36
So that means new uniforms?

Nope, devs already said that for now they will use Soviet models with eagles on helmets. To be honest I don't know how widely issued were Polish pattern uniforms by the time of Battle of Lenino. Unfourtunately I don't have a book on a subject. I have only one about Polish uniforms from 1918-1939... :-\

On photos taken during 1st Inf Div military oath on july 1943 (three months before the battle) soldiers have mostly polish uniforms. There are not a lot of photos from battle itself though :-\

(http://i.iplsc.com/15-07-1943-r-1-dywizja-piechoty-im-tadeusza-kosciuszki-sklad/0003DO98UIYBOII3-C116-F4.jpg)
Here's a photo from July '43

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7e/Polish_1st_Infantry_Division_%281943%29.jpg)
 But here's a photo of Polish soldiers transported to the front and you can see a mix of Polish and Soviet military uniforms (note the collars).

So to summarise, retextured Soviet models will do for now, but for any later battles of LWP from 1944 new models will be needed.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 18-03-2018, 20:03:30
So we have three (3) maps so far that'll debut in the next patch: Ogledow, Studienka, and Lenino. My question is what is this mystery map we got a glimpse of during the Christmas holiday?:

(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/news/171224/teaser6.jpg)
(http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/screenshotsfh2/news/171224/teaser5.jpg)

Will this also make it to the next patch? Is this in Finland? What could the name of this map be?

After carefully researching Finnish WW2 history, I've figured out the name of the map! But beware if you don't want to be spoiled! The answer might just surprise you.  ;)

Spoiler
Karelia /s
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kasztelan on 20-03-2018, 15:03:49
I wonder if SiG 33 will finally find home on one of a maps... Any plans devs?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Alubat on 31-07-2018, 22:07:02

(https://i.imgur.com/pXLmnkb.jpg)

Looks nice

(https://i.imgur.com/lKcndtF.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/wfdFdoe.png)

Any more info on this ? :-)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: VonMudra on 01-08-2018, 14:08:50
Just random pixel issues with the map, it'll be fixed in post.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MajorMajor on 01-08-2018, 16:08:00
This definitely intigues me. I checked two ideas that I had, Arracourt and Radzymin, but those towns don't look like this minimap at all. Glad to see that more content is in the works.  :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 01-08-2018, 16:08:28
Plenty of awesome stuff in the works.  :)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 01-08-2018, 17:08:18
Any more info on this ? :-)
No, that would ruin whole idea of this conspiracy, wouldn't it?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 01-08-2018, 22:08:09
You could theoretically find this map on Google Earth, seems unlikely though.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 02-08-2018, 00:08:47
Alright boys, lets try to crack this case wide open: from what I'm seeing it appears that at the bottom of the map there are some blue-ish/grey blobs which could possibly represent German Panzergrau painted vehicles. Panzergrau paint was seen on most German armour between 1939-41 which is the timeframe for the map. Also, I noticed the bright clay-brown and grey roofs on the town's buildings which looks a lot like the French house statics. Therefore, this must take place in France of 1940.

Now the question is what village is this? It certainly looks untouched judging by the lack of mortar craters and ruins. My best guess is a battle during Fall Rot.  ??? ??? ???

EDIT: Holy shit I just figured it out, and yes it looks exactly the same on Google earth...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MajorMajor on 02-08-2018, 09:08:45
Yep, I found it too, and I am overjoyed. ;D Hopefully this is real (not from a scrapped map) and devs aren't fucking with us...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Guarnere on 02-08-2018, 23:08:28
The town is Singling, but is this map based in 1944?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MedicalWanderer on 03-08-2018, 19:08:18
I knew I saw this map somewhere, 2 years ago. Here it is, on the channel of our favorite youtuber :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlfLHnQXWxg
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: GeoPat on 04-08-2018, 04:08:51
This definitely intigues me. I checked two ideas that I had, Arracourt and Radzymin, but those towns don't look like this minimap at all. Glad to see that more content is in the works.  :)

Well, I hope it is Arracourt.  I started that map and I'd rather not have to finish it.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Hawk2k9 on 05-08-2018, 12:08:17
Singling is all cool and stuff and i'm gonna let you finish, but....
(https://i.imgur.com/EmCOQ8A.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/pXLmnkb.jpg)
that doesnt appear to be the mystery map.  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 05-08-2018, 21:08:02
Maybe I gave an old map a facelift with my new skills, ever thought about that? :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 05-08-2018, 21:08:59
Well I got to say, "Singling" sure has changed through the years..  ;)

Now we must address the important question here: is there a new or existing church static used in the town?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 18-08-2018, 20:08:34
(https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/grumblerr/15370162/150013/150013_original.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/zhzDOOP.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: PoliorcetE on 18-08-2018, 20:08:24
cool !
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 26-10-2018, 17:10:27
I spotted plenty of French stuff in the changelog and a lot of talks going on about France in the Discord channel of FH2. France 1940 campaign is definately coming!   ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 26-10-2018, 17:10:40
I spotted plenty of French stuff in the changelog and a lot of talks going on about France in the Discord channel of FH2. France 1940 campaign is definately coming!   ;)

Lets not forget about what's about to happen here:  ;)

(https://i.imgur.com/pXLmnkb.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 27-10-2018, 15:10:51
Pizzaman do you think its maybe this village ? Its conected directly to crossing of Sedan and is very  interesting  battle.

Villers-le-Tilleul

 Description in french wikipedia  about history is saying;
Lors de la bataille de France, le 14 mai 1940, les Allemands de la Kampfgruppe Krüger (commandée par Walter Krüger, c'est un groupement tactique de la1. Panzer-Division de Friedrich Kirchner) ont franchi au matin le canal des Ardennes à Omicourt et attaquent alors vers Villers-le-Tilleul. Le secteur est défendu par les Français du III/329e régiment d'infanterie à l'est du village et dans celui par le I/329e RI[1] (unités de la 53e division d'infanterie du général Etcheberrigaray). Les Français se replient en fin de journée en direction de Singly, couvert par un détachement du I/329e RI, pressé par la Kampfgruppe Krüger qui s'empare alors de Villers-le-Tilleul[1].

English;
During the Battle of France, on May 14, 1940, the Germans of the Kampfgruppe Krüger (commanded by Walter Krüger, a battle group of the 1. Panzer-Division Friedrich Kirchner) crossed in the morning the Ardennes Canal at Omicourt. and then attack towards Villers-le-Tilleul. The sector is defended by the French III / 329th Infantry Regiment east of the village and in the one by the I / 329th RI [1] (units of the 53rd Infantry Division of General Etcheberrigaray). The French retreat at the end of the day towards Singly, covered by a detachment of I / 329th RI, pressed by Kampfgruppe Krüger then seized Villers-le-Tilleul [1].

Accidently found on google earth, then taught hey this looks pretty same, went on wiki and found description. So on minimap we see more german vehichles~which is 1.Panzer division kampfgruppe~ and less french vehichles which is french detachment.

 Could be easy one infantry/less tanks map for French campaign,something like Lebisey.
Why would devs find this small obscure battle? Well because Seth_Soldier lives there! :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FiveStars on 27-10-2018, 15:10:29
I spotted plenty of French stuff in the changelog and a lot of talks going on about France in the Discord channel of FH2. France 1940 campaign is definately coming!   ;)

Lets not forget about what's about to happen here:  ;)

(https://i.imgur.com/pXLmnkb.jpg)
Its actually the old vossenack map, before its correction. The devs and beta testers have been messing with you, and are laughing their arses off
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 27-10-2018, 16:10:14
Yea not Voss definitely  :D

This map would be quite nice as 4 flag conquest (french defending at begining) with heavy artilery and little more  tanks. You could quite nicely flank around city by both sides with vehichles while infantry fights inside. And forest is set very very nicely. ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 27-10-2018, 22:10:43
Pizzaman do you think its maybe this village ? Its conected directly to crossing of Sedan and is very  interesting  battle.

Villers-le-Tilleul
...

Nope, the real village on Google Maps looks exactly like the minimap. No rotations or assumptions needed.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 27-10-2018, 22:10:39
Yea probably. I found it acidentaly on Earth, but to search all northen france is no no  ;D ;D
Unless there is volunteer   :D

And its definetly France 1940. But probably there will be one more russian patch before france (Prohorovka,TaliIhantala, and jankurator map)

Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 28-10-2018, 10:10:39
I spotted plenty of French stuff in the changelog and a lot of talks going on about France in the Discord channel of FH2. France 1940 campaign is definately coming!   ;)

Lets not forget about what's about to happen here:  ;)

(https://i.imgur.com/pXLmnkb.jpg)

The thing after the colon is still a mystery for me, I'm guessing it is an image uploaded on Imgur (banned in Turkey)  :'(
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: |7th|Nighthawk on 28-10-2018, 14:10:41
^ You're even freer than us Germans ;P Try using a VPN. Even an online one should work.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FiveStars on 28-10-2018, 15:10:18
You know, I wonder if the mappers are trolling us by leaking this map. Its probably a joke we failed to uncover or something  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 28-10-2018, 17:10:34
^ You're even freer than us Germans ;P Try using a VPN. Even an online one should work.

Tried that before, and it got me banned from the forum because of "spambot"  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 28-10-2018, 18:10:34
...And its definetly France 1940. But probably there will be one more russian patch before france (Prohorovka,TaliIhantala, and jankurator map)

Who said that it had to be in France?  ;)

The thing after the colon is still a mystery for me, I'm guessing it is an image uploaded on Imgur (banned in Turkey)  :'(

Why would your country ban imgur? Let me know if you can see these:

(https://pp.userapi.com/c834404/v834404980/19d6e3/M1MJRdzwP2A.jpg)

(http://fhpubforum.warumdarum.de/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=14169.0;attach=5710;image)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Turkish007 on 28-10-2018, 20:10:37
Why would your country ban imgur? Let me know if you can see these:

All kinds of weird shit happening in this part of the world  ::), but that's another thread's subject I guess  ;D

Pics are visible, thanks Pizzzaman! I remember Stonne now, we played this French Hope map online a few years ago.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 28-10-2018, 21:10:44
...And its definetly France 1940. But probably there will be one more russian patch before france (Prohorovka,TaliIhantala, and jankurator map)

Who said that it had to be in France? 

And just before you hint this

I spotted plenty of French stuff in the changelog and a lot of talks going on about France in the Discord channel of FH2. France 1940 campaign is definately coming!   ;)

Lets not forget about what's about to happen here:  ;)

(https://i.imgur.com/pXLmnkb.jpg)

Am I missing what you mean or what?? LOL And some posts before you concluded thats battle from 1940 france. And map uses all french statics.  ???

Edit: Cmon tell us which map it is pizzaman :D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 28-10-2018, 21:10:45
Am I missing what you mean or what?? LOL And some posts before you concluded thats battle from 1940 france. And map uses all french statics.  ???

*Fall Gelb 1940, not all the action happened in France alone.

Edit: Cmon tell us which map it is pizzaman :D

Not my place to reveal the map, but maybe it will be announced in a news post in the distant future? I mean why else would there be talk about French stuff on FH2 discord channel?

(https://images.emojiterra.com/twitter/v11/512px/1f914.png)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 28-10-2018, 21:10:40
We actually played on this the first time today. French tanks are wayy overpowered.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 28-10-2018, 21:10:53
Was pretty fun alright.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FiveStars on 29-10-2018, 10:10:20
Pics or it didn't happen
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 29-10-2018, 15:10:23
We actually played on this the first time today. French tanks are wayy overpowered.

Could maybe one Sig33 arty or one Ju87 plus few  Pak40 take care of this as French tanks are slower? Map is smaler but like Ihantala it could handle one airplane
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 29-10-2018, 15:10:14
What does Ihantala has got to do with this?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 29-10-2018, 16:10:36
Could maybe one Sig33 arty or one Ju87 plus few  Pak40 take care of this as French tanks are slower? Map is smaler but like Ihantala it could handle one airplane

Sure about Pak 40?
Heavier French tanks like Char B1 Bis were mainly destroyed by improvised use of heavy artillery (88 and 105mm), but direct combat losses to tank and AT-gun fire were suprisingly low. Overall, over the half French tank losses were due to mechanical failures. Only 35 were destroyed by German aircrafts (vs. 45 mine casualties) - but even bigger number was destroyed by friendly fire.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: MajorMajor on 29-10-2018, 16:10:58
I don't recall having seen PaK 40 mentioned at all when reading about the 1940 campaign in the West. I'm under the impression that back then the only AT Guns used were the Pak 36, and, in an improvised role, 88mm AA guns and howitzers of various calibers.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kasztelan on 29-10-2018, 16:10:08
Wasn't Pak 40 a 1942 thing?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 29-10-2018, 16:10:48
Wasn't Pak 40 a 1942 thing?

Indeedie.

1.Kompanie/Panzer-Jäger-Abteilung 8 was equipped with six 8.8 cm Flak 18 Selbstfahrlafette, and schwere Panzer-Jäger-Abteilung 525, 560 and 650 had a total of 33 up-armored and modified 8.8 cm gepanzerte Flak towed by armored 8t Zugkraftwagen, in the support of the 1. and 2.Panzer-Division between May-June 1940. After the campaign in France, all 525, 560 and 650 Kompanien were converted back to towed AT-units with 3.7 cm Pak.

Also, mobile Luftwaffe Flak units also claimed at least 9 French tanks between 9 -26 May 1940.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FiveStars on 29-10-2018, 17:10:57
Maybe he meant PaK 38
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Marder on 29-10-2018, 18:10:55
No PaK 38's in service in 1940 either (not until Op. Barbarossa), even the Panzer III had the 37mm gun (I wonder if the devs can make an Ausf. F from the Ausf. J).
Btw, Panzer 38(t) spotted in the changelog (some french stuff too), thanks for your work devs!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 29-10-2018, 18:10:41
Woa , no pak 38? Will be nice to see more Pak36 in use in game.

About map; I still hope that map will use lot of Panzer II and Germans struggle against French tanks. I love PnzII ,this is ideal front for it in huge numbers. While Panzer 4 is in every FH2 map.

And two questions if I may:
-any map with Sig33 in work?
-is there any progres on prohorovka (didnt wanted to touch its own thread as people would think its update)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 29-10-2018, 18:10:50
...I wonder if the devs can make an Ausf. F from the Ausf. J...
No. That tank requires a completely new model. Pretty much everything was changed in later variants.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 29-10-2018, 19:10:23
(https://i.imgur.com/Bw6rXjP.jpg)
Actual grayscaled screenshot from the playtest showing how many hits it takes to take down the B1 bis.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 29-10-2018, 20:10:47
...I wonder if the devs can make an Ausf. F from the Ausf. J...
No. That tank requires a completely new model. Pretty much everything was changed in later variants.

I think you’re thinking of the D. That variant had a totally different suspension than the E variant on. There’s still a lot of work, but I think it would still be possible to make an Ausf E or F from an Ausf J model.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 29-10-2018, 20:10:10
Didn't the Ausf. F had different turrent with two coax MG34s? The hull was indeed different in Ausf D, not F, my bad.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 29-10-2018, 20:10:31
I think the Ausf E had 2 MGs in the turret. The F went down to 1. It would still be a ton of work, but I think it would still be a bit easier than going from scratch. I think the biggest thing is the mantlet and gun and then also tweaking the hull hatches to have dual hinges instead of one

EDIT: tbh, I’m down with anyone taking our Ausf J model and pointing out the changes that would need to be made to make it an Ausf E or an F as I don’t have the common knowledge to do it quickly.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 29-10-2018, 22:10:36
Ausf. F with 3.7 cm Kw.K (L/46.5) and 2 x 7.92 mm MG 34 would be the correct type for France. It wasn't until July 1940, when Ausf F. and G were produced with 5 cm Kw.K L/42, mounted in an external mantlet on the modifed turret.

Creating Ausf. F out of Ausf. J can be a challenge, considering the number of changes introduced incl. lengthened hull, widened suspension components, new sprocket and idler wheels, new set of tracks, unevenly spaced return rollers etc. But having 125 rounds of 37mm and 4,500 rounds of 7.92mm S.m.K. (steel-core armor piercing) and S.m.K.Lichtspur (w. tracer) ammos in 60 double drum magazines sure sounds like fun.

(http://i67.tinypic.com/2hwiw01.png)

(specs from Panzer Tracts 3-2, 3-3, 3-4)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: radiosmersh on 29-10-2018, 22:10:59
I guess Ausf. E from FHSW can be used for reference:

(https://media.moddb.com/images/articles/1/222/221620/auto/yX7CJaC.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Kasztelan on 29-10-2018, 23:10:57
Funny thing is that (if I'm not mistaken) this FHSW Pz III E is actually modified Pz III J from FH 0.7, that is the same one now used in FH2. Maybe we can ask them very niiicely  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Guarnere on 29-10-2018, 23:10:38
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e8/ab/ac/e8abac34de488748cf650d265126e83b.jpg) I think that this is the correct model for the Fall Gelb 1940.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 30-10-2018, 00:10:42
Yes, E was more common but only slightly I think. F was also very common
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 30-10-2018, 08:10:15
Nice plates Guarnere. It shows how there were no, or very little external differences between Pz III Ausf. E and F assembled in the same period, and the new features were not introduced as parallel - many Ausf. F build in 1940 had "leftover" features from phased out Ausf. E production (like the fake periscope) or/and were completed without the turret ring guard, armored vents for brake cooling, radio operator's side hatch etc.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 30-10-2018, 22:10:22
Pizzaman do you think its maybe this village ? Its conected directly to crossing of Sedan and is very  interesting  battle.

Villers-le-Tilleul
...

Nope, the real village on Google Maps looks exactly like the minimap. No rotations or assumptions needed.

Ooh figured it out, nice battle indeed. Nice guys  :)  Its real FiveStar
What do you think on which % is it finished?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 03-11-2018, 10:11:19
Pizzaman do you think its maybe this village ? Its conected directly to crossing of Sedan and is very  interesting  battle.

Villers-le-Tilleul
...

Nope, the real village on Google Maps looks exactly like the minimap. No rotations or assumptions needed.

Ooh figured it out, nice battle indeed. Nice guys  :)  Its real FiveStar
What do you think on which % is it finished?

This much %:

(https://i.imgur.com/yFQt2s9.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 03-11-2018, 10:11:44
That's a pretty looking rural commune. Promising!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 03-11-2018, 13:11:49
TS is feeling leaky, squeeze what you can out of him ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Eat Uranium on 03-11-2018, 13:11:06
TS is feeling leaky, squeeze what you can out of him ;D
Umm, phrasing!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 03-11-2018, 14:11:30
Two churches in such close proximity!?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FiveStars on 03-11-2018, 15:11:41
the curch on the left looks like a new static
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 03-11-2018, 16:11:54
Two churches in such close proximity!?

Not sure if that's a chapel (or such), but having two churches in close proximity was quite common in the old times: different parishes, different churches - even in small villages with couple hundred inhabitants.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 03-11-2018, 17:11:52
It is like that in reality as well, just a bit scaled down.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 04-11-2018, 22:11:05
Pizzaman do you think its maybe this village ? Its conected directly to crossing of Sedan and is very  interesting  battle.

Villers-le-Tilleul
...

Nope, the real village on Google Maps looks exactly like the minimap. No rotations or assumptions needed.

Ooh figured it out, nice battle indeed. Nice guys  :)  Its real FiveStar
What do you think on which % is it finished?

This much %:

(https://i.imgur.com/yFQt2s9.jpg)

Wow really nice village! Could we get one more pic of it or that trenches above village?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 05-11-2018, 20:11:21
All I see above the village are clouds  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FiveStars on 13-11-2018, 12:11:29
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/405839826433081344/511863545529630740/SrJCkuV.png)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: CptdeS35 on 23-11-2018, 01:11:21
Hello there  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 12-12-2018, 11:12:05
Sooo.. any signs of new Axis vehicles? Pz38(t) is clear, but besides that?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Oberst_Kroenen on 12-12-2018, 12:12:10
I was wondering why don't we have an MG34 with a belt mag as a pick-up kit
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Wonk (spyboter) on 30-12-2018, 12:12:06
are we getting a new "taxi man" role? something like an uber driver or something?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 30-12-2018, 12:12:38
are we getting a new "taxi man" role? something like an uber driver or something?
We already have that for years. You get extra score for giving your teammates a lift  ;)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FiveStars on 30-12-2018, 17:12:44
are we getting a new "taxi man" role? something like an uber driver or something?
We already have that for years. You get extra score for giving your teammates a lift  ;)
What about the squad spawn on you? Like 1-2 points for every teamate who spawns on you
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 30-12-2018, 17:12:23
How is that a conspiracy?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FiveStars on 30-12-2018, 18:12:28
Wrong thread ig. On the tops of conspiracies, although this is highly unlikely, but will the germans in france get new playermodels. Oh and on the top of that, the french ones....
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 30-12-2018, 18:12:08
I don't think Germans would need new playermodels for France 1940. Simple texture change could probably be enough  ???
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 30-12-2018, 19:12:17
I don't think Germans would need new playermodels for France 1940. Simple texture change could probably be enough  ???

Bring on the green uniforms!

(https://image.slidesharecdn.com/thegermanarmyinwwii-170216052259/95/the-german-army-in-wwii-38-638.jpg?cb=1487222621)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FiveStars on 27-01-2019, 11:01:19
So the updates got me interested, BF-109 G? Something tells me that the Panzer 4 G may well be in the works. Thinking about what would be in the new update, I personally would think that Stonne, Prokhorovka, + the unidentified finnish map,  along with some other unannounced maps  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 27-01-2019, 12:01:46
the unidentified finnish map,  along with some other unannounced maps  ;D

I hope its Viipuri, skirmish around the railway yard. Yeah I know, but just to imagine two BT-42 vs. Lend-lease Churchill, BA-10 and T-34-76. And the Red Army would get a IS-2 or KV-1 as an reinforcement. Hah.

(https://i.ibb.co/7QL9S60/Around-6-Churchills.jpg)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FiveStars on 27-01-2019, 16:01:19
well all that we do know is that map will have to accomadate the captured ISU-152
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 27-01-2019, 16:01:53
well all that we do know is that map will have to accomadate the captured ISU-152

Historically, that was only used in the counter-attack for Portinhoikka crossroads (also lost there), along with one BA-10, T-34-76, T-34-85, couple T-26Bs and "handful" of Sturmis.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FiveStars on 27-01-2019, 19:01:41
Guess that we have them all in the build! (dev build atleast  ;D) except Ba10
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 27-01-2019, 20:01:32
Wish I had the statics for Viipuri...  :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FiveStars on 28-01-2019, 07:01:35
You mean not enough time for the moddlers
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 28-01-2019, 16:01:49
Wish I had the statics for Viipuri...  :P

 :o

If this will ever happen, please consider "Viipurin polkka" by Georg Malmstén & Dallapé-orkesteri as a loading music  8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Leopardi on 28-01-2019, 16:01:12
I want a winter war map.

Depth of defence infantry first fighting off T-26 hordes in the forests with the two 20mm Lahti's they were issued, then backing off to Mannerheim-line, and if it's cracked, theres a village to fight for  8)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 28-01-2019, 19:01:11
I do not have plans on ever making Viipuri, simply because it would be quite difficult to balance and the biggest factor is that we'd need such a huge load of pretty map specific statics that it is with this manpower situation completely out of question. You can only get so far with reskinning existing buildings.

So, at least I wont be tackling that sort of behemoth anytime soon if ever. It is not on my radar.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: nysä on 28-01-2019, 20:01:21
Yeah right, well that's understandable.
Thanks for your hard work so far, Flippy Warbear
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FiveStars on 28-01-2019, 20:01:56
So, at least I wont be tackling that sort of behemoth anytime soon if ever. It is not on my radar.
What is on your radar atm?  ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 28-01-2019, 21:01:06
Plenty of things that'll keep me busy for years.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FiveStars on 29-01-2019, 07:01:53
Plenty of things that'll keep me busy for years.
Maybe you would be generous to shed a light leak?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 29-01-2019, 20:01:34
Nope, not here.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 29-01-2019, 21:01:00
You’ll have to conspire :P
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Jimi Hendrix on 30-01-2019, 03:01:49
Plenty of things that'll keep me busy for years.

 You dont have 1 more great Flippy map?

For old time sake?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FiveStars on 30-01-2019, 07:01:59
You’ll have to conspire :P

Hmmm. Conspire. Con - "an instance of deceiving or tricking someone.".

We are getting a new commando map  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ts4EVER on 01-02-2019, 13:02:23
The next video on my Youtube channel will have a leak.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: FiveStars on 02-02-2019, 18:02:12
Jimii, also check the discord. More leaks!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 02-07-2019, 22:07:43
If people still discuss leaks here and not on our discord we got this 8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gW_pR2JwdO4&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gW_pR2JwdO4&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 03-07-2019, 21:07:20
Wow that looks fantastic !  :o

Man, I've missed a lot...
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 03-07-2019, 22:07:08
Yes (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/357273068906741761/581536266206576663/screen001.png), you (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/357273068906741761/592814719837012000/screen001.png) have (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/338595052219793408/593478124633587715/screen001.png).
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 07-07-2019, 10:07:54
http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/fh2_vehicles.php (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/fh2_vehicles.php) :o
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: pizzzaman on 07-07-2019, 14:07:31
http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/fh2_vehicles.php (http://forgottenhope.warumdarum.de/fh2_vehicles.php) :o

What!? Was that vehicles section always there?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Slayer on 07-07-2019, 15:07:24
Yes, it's a longstanding part of what is called "the FH website", where you can find all maps, weapons, vehicles, armies, serverinfo, screenshots, videos, links to social media, erc, etc

And that all for both FH and FH2!
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Ivancic1941 on 02-09-2019, 16:09:39
This with French section for vehichles is realllllllly nasty guys ... really nssty....

How there is no Char B?????  ??? WTH?
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Matthew_Baker on 02-09-2019, 16:09:42
No Char B to use.... yet
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: jan_kurator on 02-09-2019, 17:09:27
How there is no Char B?????  ??? WTH?
Because French armor consisted of Renault EUs, Somua S35s and Char B1 Bis only, as we know? Website shows only vehicles that were announced, this two were announced years ago, as both can be even used in game since 2.50 release.
Title: Re: Conspiracies Thread Mk II
Post by: Flippy Warbear on 07-04-2020, 20:04:29
Benefits (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/357273068906741761/581536266206576663/screen001.png) of joining (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/357273068906741761/592814719837012000/screen001.png) our (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/338595052219793408/593478124633587715/screen001.png) Discord (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/357273068906741761/617639774852743198/sotka.png), you get (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/338595052219793408/647161645017202701/screen000.png) to see (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/341977339623636993/676178428755705876/warbearisangry.png) WIP (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/338595052219793408/688835691995463796/aurinkoinen.png) screenshots (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/338595052219793408/688835846677463108/t26.png) of 2.56 (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/338595052219793408/696729017008521216/prowl.png).