Auto spotting

[Smiles]

Alright, to be short. This sucks, its annoying, and its one big ass glitch.
2 tanks can just set up in the corner of a map and keep pressing the auto button, revealing every enemy nearby who can possibly be a thread to them.

Its annoying. The whole team has to hear BASTARD SPOTTED, BASTARD SPOTTED, BASTARD SPOTTED, BASTARD SPOTTED. It either makes me quit, or tk the person who does it probably resulting in a ban for me.

Could someone please tell me why this havnt been removed yet? Or for example take this ability away from everything but infantry.

[IrishReloaded]

Or for example take this ability away from everything but infantry.

So you want that noone can spot just infantry=? That would lead into even more spotting.

Maybe its better to just set the chatspawm 30 sec banblock (you know what i mean) lower. so that he can only spot 2-3 times then 30sec block?

[THeTA0123]

It is forbidden to spam that on most servers

[Die Happy]

have you ever played BF2 vanilla? in FH2 we have a max limit of spam for radio commands and then you get blocked for a short period. in BF2 vanilla there is no such thing, radio spam is everywhere and constant.

also only people inside vehicles (this includes any static MGs, paks flak, tank, planes, anything you can "enter") and people with  binoculars can send radio messages thus decreasing the possible amount of spam even more.

yes there are your usual douchebags that think its funny to radiospam the whole game long, but since the amount of players/servers is rather slow a admin ban due to radio spam can hurt really bad and  they will stop soon enough.

[von.small]

it's possible to chat spam and we all know it, you leave a few second duration between each call and you don't get blocked.  And I have TKd someone for the bush scanning trick, he knows who he is - he will read this, and know shame.

[Atkins]

Its annoying. The whole team has to hear BASTARD SPOTTED, BASTARD SPOTTED, BASTARD SPOTTED, BASTARD SPOTTED. It either makes me quit, or tk the person who does it probably resulting in a ban for me.

Could someone please tell me why this havnt been removed yet? Or for example take this ability away from everything but infantry.

I totally agree. It is really annoying when all u hear is constant "Enemy spotted" and "Artillery request" one after another for the whole round. At least make an option to turn that s**t off. Or is it possible to do it already?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kClfVrs1DpE

[DLFReporter]

As happy said, the devs tried reducing the spam and in my opinion have done so quite well when comparing it to a normal round of BF2. I tried it like two weeks ago and had to quit after a minute cause I couldn't hear the damn guns shooting over the ENEMY SPOTTED radios...

Just compare this to your video atkins. ^^ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cfd23xvqqw
Or this one is even better: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHYGkF0dBT0&feature=related

[ajappat]

I think have said this in other topic already, but here we go again.

If we take arty ready and enemy spotted spammers away, there isn't alot radio noice after that. However silencing these 2 types of people without taking whole sounds away can be hard. I would suggest lowering "arty spotted" sound for one per 30secs or similar. If someone can't spot at the moment, spamming wont make it faster.

If we could somehow make spotting system better, so that it would actually spot what you want, instead of tree or mg halfway to your real target. Sometimes I have to "spam", to make my spot work. Now add 20+ people trying to hit enemy with their spot = spam. If some dev has free time, he could try to tweak whole system.

Real spot spammers get kicked quite fast atleast on hslan, but sometimes overall noice off all people trying to spot enemies can seem like spamm for some people.

My 2 cents 

[Atkins]

N24, i havent really played BF2-vanilla but that indeed sounds quite annoying :-/

I would still add that constant walkie-talkie blabber in ww2 game is pretty much immersion degrading.
So I as well hope something would be done to alleviate this, and pls make an option to silence the radio. Those who need the spotting "info", can always see the text and check map, right?

[Knitschi]

IMO beeing able to spot is more important than reducing radio spam. I can just once again suggest removing the sound for the unidentified (missed) questionmark spot. The arty spot sound could be removed too as the artillery will get the spot anyways.

[Natty]

we're looking in to updating the [PURE] serversettings for how we want FH2 servers to be set up, and this is on top of the list, indeed.
The blocker is, if you look at the files in the mod, already set to much stronger than vBF2, but the servers settings override this, so if you want less headache until the next patch, ask the server admins to raise the block to 60sec and lower the allowed messages from 6 to 2.

Can someone explain how "auto spotting" works? Im sure this is what the Commanders in vBF2 are doing, dunno if they get points for everything they spot, but you feel that it is not a person pressing those buttons.. they always do exactly 6 spots, then wait exactly the time allowed to spot again, then 6 more spots come... very annoying  

[von.small]

Can someone explain how "auto spotting" works? Im sure this is what the Commanders in vBF2 are doing, dunno if they get points for everything they spot, but you feel that it is not a person pressing those buttons.. they always do exactly 6 spots, then wait exactly the time allowed to spot again, then 6 more spots come... very annoying  

auto-spotting, perfect example imo is Lebisey, the Shermans drive up to the first line of bushes, and just keep hitting Q-Enemy spotted until the radius of the spot indicator lights up with infantry arrow(s) that would otherwise be hidden from it's view.  .. then it's justa  matter of HE'ing the shit out of that area and whoo you killed a whole squad.
 
Exactly the same from the Stugs point of view, sit behind the Pak gun in the field and scan the bushes clicking Q-enemy spotted until the red question mark turns into legitimate targets

[Atkins]

IMO beeing able to spot is more important than reducing radio spam.

Doesn't the spotting produce already a text message and the icon to the overview map? Although i am a bit confused how the system works, cos i dont see all the time that text but i sure can hear the spam.

[Smiles]

So you want that noone can spot just infantry=? That would lead into even more spotting.

Simple example, im merely addressing my annoyence.

have you ever played BF2 vanilla? in FH2 we have a max limit of spam for radio commands and then you get blocked for a short period. in BF2 vanilla there is no such thing, radio spam is everywhere and constant.

Ok, ill counter all your arguements with "have you ever played bf2, it was so much different there"

Surely, you guys changed a lot and its less spammy than bf2, but fh2 is a lot less forgiving than bf2, a auto spotter in a panther/churchill can wipe out the enemy team twice. Ambushing him has no use since he spots you right way if you get close.

also only people inside vehicles (this includes any static MGs, paks flak, tank, planes, anything you can "enter") and people with  binoculars can send radio messages thus decreasing the possible amount of spam even more.

Yes and that is the problem. I can drive a wily through a map only pressing the "auto" key and my whole team gets to see where all the enemies are. Thats why i "suggested" only giving infantry with binocs this ability, he can spot, but cant kill m all.

IMO beeing able to spot is more important than reducing radio spam.

In my opinion one could achieve the same with a compass and VOIP.

It is forbidden to spam that on most servers

Maybe on HSLAN where i indeed do not hear the constant rdio messages, but 762 atm is the dominating server. 

[Knitschi]

Doesn't the spotting produce already a text message and the icon to the overview map? Although i am a bit confused how the system works, cos i dont see all the time that text but i sure can hear the spam.

Yes it does. And some people seem to be annoyed by it because you can spot enemies you don't really see by constantly spotting into empty area.
In my experience however this is not done very often. Spotting is hard enough in FH2 and it is very important for a team to have enough spotters. Especially in maps with lots of tanks and planes. This is why I would not like to see any measures that make it even harder to spot.