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Panzer III on Kursk
« on: 21-03-2010, 15:03:11 »
Since nobody of my mates wanted to go out yesterday(all have interms) i stayed home. After a while, i got myself into reading an big article of the Battle of Kursk (The entire operation)

After alot of reading, i read that Panzers III, Panzers IV, Panthers and tigers where the main german tank on Kursk

Now i first thought that those Panzers III where probaly Ausf N, but then i found this picture



I to be honest, cannot recall that ausf, maybe L?

Does anyone know what type's of Panzers III where used in kursk? And how much did they made up for german tank strength?
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Re: Panzer III on Kursk
« Reply #1 on: 21-03-2010, 15:03:08 »
I think this is an Ausf. J. Mantlet does not match with the L nor does the track idler.
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Re: Panzer III on Kursk
« Reply #2 on: 21-03-2010, 16:03:57 »
I don't have any numbers right now but I know that Panzer III armed with 50mm gun, even some 37mm was still quite common at Operation Zitadelle, especially in the 9th Army on the northern flank.
sPzAbt.501-505 consisted partly of Panzer III Ausf N's 1942-43 due to lack of Tigers to reach full strength.
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Re: Panzer III on Kursk
« Reply #3 on: 21-03-2010, 17:03:00 »
hole crap a PZ III in kursk ?
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Re: Panzer III on Kursk
« Reply #4 on: 21-03-2010, 17:03:06 »
Newsflash: German tanks did not turn into Panthers in 1943.
« Last Edit: 01-02-2011, 01:02:29 by Thorondor123 »
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Re: Panzer III on Kursk
« Reply #5 on: 21-03-2010, 17:03:16 »
You should search about the "das reich" equipement during kursk. You will certainly identified the crew and the panzer.
the 2ss division only had 48 panzer 3 at kursk so if you have the tob then you will have your answer
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Re: Panzer III on Kursk
« Reply #7 on: 21-03-2010, 17:03:17 »
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Re: Panzer III on Kursk
« Reply #8 on: 21-03-2010, 17:03:20 »
Panzer III's were the most numerous tank the germans used in the battle of Kursk, as far as I remember.
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Re: Panzer III on Kursk
« Reply #9 on: 21-03-2010, 18:03:32 »
How very true. I have a Reader's Digest Book of WW2 and it depicts the battle of Kursk with a huge picture of almost only Tigers vs T34s... no wonder that stuck in the back of everyone's mind. ^^
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Re: Panzer III on Kursk
« Reply #10 on: 21-03-2010, 18:03:55 »
 ... panzer III kurz.
There were only 2 in the SS-Pz-Regiment 2  of von Reitzenstein.
you can even found their names.
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Re: Panzer III on Kursk
« Reply #11 on: 21-03-2010, 19:03:49 »
Quote from: Flippy Warbear on 21-03-2010, 17:03:20
Panzer III's were the most numerous tank the germans used in the battle of Kursk, as far as I remember.

Bingo.  Its just the usual thing of the big heavy german tanks being stuck in the minds of people, while the Panzer 3 continued to soldier on, in some cases all the way to the end of the war.  J's, L's, and M's all saw service at Kursk.
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Re: Panzer III on Kursk
« Reply #12 on: 21-03-2010, 20:03:38 »
very intresting
It seems that both Ausf J L and M where present, also the Panzer's IV where mostly ausf G so it seems but also F1s and F2's.
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Re: Panzer III on Kursk
« Reply #13 on: 21-03-2010, 22:03:09 »
Did germans ever mount long 75mm gun on panzer 3? If  yes, what was it's name and did it ever see combat. Just curiosity  ::).
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Re: Panzer III on Kursk
« Reply #14 on: 21-03-2010, 22:03:31 »
Yes, it was called the StuG III Ausf. F/G ;)




But really, no, I don't think so. The turret was too small, and you couldn't fit in a bigger turret.
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