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Forgotten Hope 2 => Modding => Topic started by: Jürgen on 11-09-2009, 15:09:48

Title: [Model] Walther PPK
Post by: Jürgen on 11-09-2009, 15:09:48
OLD VERSION:

(http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/5603/ppk.png)

NEW VERSIONS:
(http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/4232/rendersss.jpg)
Title: Re: [Model] Walther PPK
Post by: Ts4EVER on 11-09-2009, 16:09:19
Nice, but needs a more dirty look.
Title: Re: [Model] Walther PPK
Post by: samnadine on 11-09-2009, 16:09:42
looks very good!  ;)
Title: Re: [Model] Walther PPK
Post by: Fuchs on 11-09-2009, 16:09:02
Like it alot but the bright white letters compared to the dark black don't look right. Pistol isn't just black, try to create shine and maybe make the letters more dark grey?
Title: Re: [Model] Walther PPK
Post by: Seth_Soldier on 12-09-2009, 22:09:51
Details are there but not the light  and the weathering :-\
Title: Re: [Model] Walther PPK
Post by: Krätzer on 14-09-2009, 01:09:46
Hey, is that one skinned like in the CS Video Tutorial about unwrap and skinning what can be found in the FAQ here in the modding area?
Title: Re: [Model] Walther PPK
Post by: Jürgen on 14-09-2009, 10:09:39
Nice, but needs a more dirty look.
True...
Like it alot but the bright white letters compared to the dark black don't look right. Pistol isn't just black, try to create shine and maybe make the letters more dark grey?
Lightning is the problem,so,true
Details are there but not the light  and the weathering :-\
I will look on it!
I specially missed the weathering and the light,well,looks too plain.
Thanks for the feedback!

Hey, is that one skinned like in the CS Video Tutorial about unwrap and skinning what can be found in the FAQ here in the modding area?
For UV mapping I just used what Toddel taught me: Flatten and Stitch
For Skinning,well,I don´t think the poor technics I used are on such a complete tutorial,but I might have used something I learnt in that one...
Actually,I think I learnt some interesting stuff in there.


Title: Re: [Model] Walther PPK
Post by: Jürgen on 14-09-2009, 15:09:23
Here is the improved version...
What do you think?

(http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/3342/screen094.png)
Title: Re: [Model] Walther PPK
Post by: Toddel on 14-09-2009, 15:09:21
That is Giarabub, and i made this Mosque model and the sky is great . i also like the Color and detail Texture of the Terrain. Also this hand Textures look fantastic i think RAD did an awesome Job on then. oh a is that a Pistol? ::)
Title: Re: [Model] Walther PPK
Post by: Schneider on 14-09-2009, 15:09:35
I think the colors are too strong overall, makes it look a little like plastic. Bleach the colors out a bit I'd say.
Title: Re: [Model] Walther PPK
Post by: Jürgen on 14-09-2009, 15:09:12
That is Giarabub, and i made this Mosque model and the sky is great . i also like the Color and detail Texture of the Terrain. Also this hand Textures look fantastic i think RAD did an awesome Job on then. oh a is that a Pistol? ::)
8)

I think the colors are too strong overall, makes it look a little like plastic. Bleach the colors out a bit I'd say.

(http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/3453/screen096.png)
Title: Re: [Model] Walther PPK
Post by: Ionizer on 14-09-2009, 15:09:55
In all honestly, I'd rather see the renders rather than seeing it in-game.  With renders, you can take in all the details of gun, plus, in renders, half of of the pistol isn't obscured by the dude's thumb.
Title: Re: [Model] Walther PPK
Post by: Toddel on 14-09-2009, 15:09:20
i mean a bit bigger picture would be nice. right now you only can guess ;) ;D
Title: Re: [Model] Walther PPK
Post by: Jürgen on 14-09-2009, 15:09:39
Oh,now I understand...
Here are the full-res pictures...
About the renders,I updated the one in the first post.
(http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/3342/screen094.png)

(http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/8049/screen096a.png)
Title: Re: [Model] Walther PPK
Post by: Ionizer on 14-09-2009, 17:09:18
The darker one seems better for the writing and wood grips (and red button thing?), but the lighter one makes the metal look better...
Title: Re: [Model] Walther PPK
Post by: Toddel on 14-09-2009, 23:09:40
ionizer you have any Texturing skills or you just telling us your opinion?
Title: Re: [Model] Walther PPK
Post by: Kildar on 15-09-2009, 04:09:10
" ionizer you have any Texturing skills or you just telling us your opinion?"

I don't see how texturing skill allows you to have a better ability to tell people what looks better from your POV.  The only thing that does that is art appreciation classes.
Title: Re: [Model] Walther PPK
Post by: Ionizer on 15-09-2009, 18:09:24
Heh heh.  Am I not allowed to comment if I can't texture?  :D  No, I don't have much artistic ability.  I haven't tried texturing, but I'm fairly certain I wouldn't be much good at it.  That said, I can still appreciate good work and give my opinion on stuff that I see.  Or else I wouldn't be able to give my opinions on the stuff that you and the other Devs do for FH2...

Anyway, I'm sure anyone can ignore my comments if they so wish.  But I'm not gonna stop giving them, that's for sure.
Title: Re: [Model] Walther PPK
Post by: elander on 16-09-2009, 13:09:01
Heh heh.  Am I not allowed to comment if I can't texture?  :D  No, I don't have much artistic ability.  I haven't tried texturing, but I'm fairly certain I wouldn't be much good at it.  That said, I can still appreciate good work and give my opinion on stuff that I see.  Or else I wouldn't be able to give my opinions on the stuff that you and the other Devs do for FH2...

Anyway, I'm sure anyone can ignore my comments if they so wish.  But I'm not gonna stop giving them, that's for sure.

sorta ..
Title: Re: [Model] Walther PPK
Post by: Jürgen on 16-09-2009, 20:09:55
I think everyone can comment...I just want to hear opinions...
Title: Re: [Model] Walther PPK
Post by: Krätzer on 16-09-2009, 21:09:31
Would be nice, to see some damage on the weapon and dirt on the grip.
So something thats looks this way  :)
(http://www.352inf.com/field_gear/wep_images/walther_ppk2.jpg)
ATM i like the dark version of your skins.
Title: Re: [Model] Walther PPK
Post by: Meadow on 17-09-2009, 14:09:33
I think a layman's opinion is in many ways an absolute must when it comes to artistic work. 99% of the audience for your work will be laymen, so saying 'you shouldn't comment if you can't do better' really doesn't make any sense.

On topic, I (as a proud layman) think this is a superb piece of work. In-game it still looks crisp and sharp, and tbh on par with many FH2 models, provided the metal and wood is dulled in a manner that makes it look like the metal on, say, the P38. Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: [Model] Walther PPK
Post by: samnadine on 20-09-2009, 16:09:04
this is improving and everytime I check the newest picture I like it more. Jürgen is doing a kick ass job  :)
Title: Re: [Model] Walther PPK
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 21-09-2009, 03:09:16
  Very nice work!  I am not so sure about the white lettering on the slide though.  If you are going off reference pictures that you got off the internets I would try and find more.  The Germans in WWII went batty with stamping codes and numbers all over everything and as a result many collectors are out to get certain factory codes and production numbers when they buy things.  As a result a fair amount of pics of german guns on the internet have a white waxy substance rubbed into all these markings to highlight the crests codes and banners on these guns.  I could be full of shit on this not owning a PPK but the Walthers I do own don't have this so do a little more homework before calling this a done deal.

Ohh and BTW great work guy!
Title: Re: [Model] Walther PPK
Post by: Biiviz on 22-09-2009, 10:09:23
He's not your guy, pal.
Title: Re: [Model] Walther PPK
Post by: Pascucci the Whiner on 24-09-2009, 00:09:01

Awesome model  :D!

  Very nice work!  I am not so sure about the white lettering on the slide though.  If you are going off reference pictures that you got off the internets I would try and find more.  The Germans in WWII went batty with stamping codes and numbers all over everything and as a result many collectors are out to get certain factory codes and production numbers when they buy things.  As a result a fair amount of pics of german guns on the internet have a white waxy substance rubbed into all these markings to highlight the crests codes and banners on these guns.  I could be full of shit on this not owning a PPK but the Walthers I do own don't have this so do a little more homework before calling this a done deal.

Ohh and BTW great work guy!

Yep, The Germans didn't paint the lettering white.
Title: Re: [Model] Walther PPK
Post by: [130.Pz]S.Lainer on 24-09-2009, 01:09:09
He's not your guy, pal.

  Always right there to bait me Biiviz!   ;D 
 
Title: Re: [Model] Walther PPK
Post by: Jürgen on 24-09-2009, 12:09:55
Thanks for the feedback...
So aren´t the letters white? :S
Title: Re: [Model] Walther PPK
Post by: Paasky on 25-09-2009, 11:09:38
That is Giarabub, and i made this Mosque model and the sky is great . i also like the Color and detail Texture of the Terrain. Also this hand Textures look fantastic i think RAD did an awesome Job on then. oh a is that a Pistol? ::)
That mosque model sucks.




 :P






I'm liking the Walther, looks good.
Title: Re: [Model] Walther PPK
Post by: Jürgen on 25-09-2009, 15:09:07
That is Giarabub, and i made this Mosque model and the sky is great . i also like the Color and detail Texture of the Terrain. Also this hand Textures look fantastic i think RAD did an awesome Job on then. oh a is that a Pistol? ::)
That mosque model sucks.
 :P
Every model in FH2 is beautiful.
Title: Re: [Model] Walther PPK
Post by: Biiviz on 25-09-2009, 16:09:05
He's just teasing ;)