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King tiger too low in front
« on: 09-08-2010, 18:08:58 »
Hey why Sherman Vc Firefly destroy King tiger in front ?? Lokk this :  Armor of foremost tank about thickness 180 mm, then which (who) was for penetration for no allied gun properly (suitable) not, from very close distance even.Inclination of iron-clad plate (disc) was additional plus, penetration made difficult that additionally and disruption !!!         At least should not pierce armor behind first case (together; time) or third.
  
 As I am apologize it in error and please, topping armor pierces about explanation that so Sherman Vc since it writes that could pierce nothing him (it). Sorry for my english and I look forward to hearing.
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Re: King tiger too low in front
« Reply #1 on: 09-08-2010, 18:08:16 »
The 17 pounder firing normal APCBC ammunition penetrates 140 mm from ~500 meters. If the armour of the Tiger II had no flaws it could possibly survive a hit to the front part of the turret. Hit from upper front hull could cause damage inside by spalling and lower front hull would be a neat penetration. Sides and rear would be always a clean penetration without any problems.

17 pounder using the APDS ammunition would penetrate Tiger II's front turret even from 1000 meters.


In short: The armour- and penetration values of the Tiger II and Sherman VC are correct. Not a bug.
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Re: King tiger too low in front
« Reply #2 on: 09-08-2010, 19:08:56 »
Oh god, another OMGWTFGERMANSTANKSPWNZORALL.  ::)
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Re: King tiger too low in front
« Reply #3 on: 10-08-2010, 00:08:52 »
Oh god, another OMGWTFGERMANSTANKSPWNZORALL.  ::)
+1 <3

The funniest thing that all those german fanboys keep hanging on the fact that the Tiger II's frontal armor never was penetrated. Yet their is a photo and proof of it.
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Re: King tiger too low in front
« Reply #4 on: 10-08-2010, 14:08:38 »
Oh god, another OMGWTFGERMANSTANKSPWNZORALL.  ::)
+1 <3

The funniest thing that all those german fanboys keep hanging on the fact that the Tiger II's frontal armor never was penetrated. Yet their is a photo and proof of it.

It was the turret front which was penetrated. Not the front sloped armor.

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Re: King tiger too low in front
« Reply #5 on: 10-08-2010, 22:08:12 »
Oh god, another OMGWTFGERMANSTANKSPWNZORALL.  ::)
+1 <3

The funniest thing that all those german fanboys keep hanging on the fact that the Tiger II's frontal armor never was penetrated. Yet their is a photo and proof of it.

It was the turret front which was penetrated. Not the front sloped armor.
They hang on the entire frontal area  ;D

on WOT their was the same guy, and i posted the photo, and he was like=TARGET practice or just a dent and no full penetration!
The only confirmed photo is this=


But yes it is not the thickest part. That part is 180mm thick. But the tigers hull armor was 150mm sloped at   30 degrees?
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Re: King tiger too low in front
« Reply #6 on: 11-08-2010, 03:08:33 »
Ok sorry my bad :) sorry for english

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Re: King tiger too low in front
« Reply #7 on: 11-08-2010, 15:08:13 »
It's okay. There are a couple of newbies posting their thoughts on this forum every week. It takes a little time to realise that everything you can possibly think of when you join this forum has been discussed here at least twice before already.  ;).
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Re: King tiger too low in front
« Reply #8 on: 11-08-2010, 21:08:25 »
well, when someone talks me about frontal armour, Theta, I think that sloped armor, NOT the turret. I don't give a fuck if turret armour gets penetrated, but if frontal sloped armour, hell will come on earth.

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Re: King tiger too low in front
« Reply #9 on: 12-08-2010, 00:08:21 »
Oh god, another OMGWTFGERMANSTANKSPWNZORALL.  ::)
+1 <3

The funniest thing that all those german fanboys keep hanging on the fact that the Tiger II's frontal armor never was penetrated. Yet their is a photo and proof of it.

It was the turret front which was penetrated. Not the front sloped armour.

In fh2, it's most likely that it's the roof that got hit.The problem here is that it's sloped, and 40mm thick so with a bit of practice you can kill a king tiger in 2-3 shots from a ordinary cromwell

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Re: King tiger too low in front
« Reply #10 on: 12-08-2010, 12:08:58 »
well, when someone talks me about frontal armour, Theta, I think that sloped armor, NOT the turret. I don't give a fuck if turret armour gets penetrated, but if frontal sloped armour, hell will come on earth.
Well it is way worse when the turret gets penetrated instead of the hull
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Re: King tiger too low in front
« Reply #11 on: 12-08-2010, 18:08:55 »
It's not like all the ammo, fuel and crew sits in the turret, but indeed turret penetration disable a tank aswell.

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Re: King tiger too low in front
« Reply #12 on: 12-08-2010, 18:08:25 »
It's not like all the ammo, fuel and crew sits in the turret, but indeed turret penetration disable a tank aswell.
Commander sits their. He is the eyes and the brain of a tank
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Re: King tiger too low in front
« Reply #13 on: 13-08-2010, 18:08:27 »
Do you know what was the strategy to blow up a KT ?
I suppose that tankers were likely to avoid engaging such a tank frontally.
I'm not an expert at all in real life tank fighting, but I guess that flanking attacks were highly recommanded, even if a Cromwell was able to penetrate the turret (whish I guess was really hard to manage, unlike in the game).

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Re: King tiger too low in front
« Reply #14 on: 13-08-2010, 18:08:19 »
Do you know what was the strategy to blow up a KT ?
I suppose that tankers were likely to avoid engaging such a tank frontally.
I'm not an expert at all in real life tank fighting, but I guess that flanking attacks were highly recommanded, even if a Cromwell was able to penetrate the turret (whish I guess was really hard to manage, unlike in the game).
The strategy was to fall back
then the KT would follow them and break down  ;D
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