Forgotten Hope Public Forum
Off-Topic => Off-Topic => Topic started by: [WDW]Megaraptor on 29-05-2010, 04:05:29
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It just doesn't get much better than American politics over the last few months:
1) Congressman Hank Johnson (a democrat from Georgia) was part of a hearing in March on the expansion of the US military base on Guam. He was questioning an admiral. He went through a painstaking series of questions about how small Guam is:
(Original Source: http://youtube.com/watch?v=zNZczIgVXjg)
Johnson: ...it is, at its widest level, 12 miles from shore to shore? And at it's smallest level, uh, smallest, location it's seven miles between one shore and the other? Is that correct?
Admiral: I don't have the exact dimensions, but to your point, sir I think Guam is a small island.
Johnson: It's a small island, if I recall it's about 24 miles long? So 24 miles long, about 7 miles wide, at the least widest place on the island, and about 12 miles wide on the widest part of the island? And, uh, I don't know how many square miles that is, do you know?
Admiral: I don't have that figure with me sir, I can certainly supply it to you if you'd like.
Johnson: Yeah, my fear is that, uh, the whole island will become so overly populated that it will tip over and capsize.
Admiral: Uh...we don't anticipate that.
2) Rand Paul, the son of former presidential candidate Ron Paul, is running for Senate as a Republican in Kentucky. Rand is noted for being extremely conservative, just like his father. He even caused controversy by saying he opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act ending segregation because he supports the rights of private businesses to decide who they will and won't do business with.
Yet, he had to force his communications director to resign (http://barefootandprogressive.blogspot.com/2009/12/rand-pauls-spokesperson-is-satanic.html)when it came out that the staffer was a 9/11 conspiracy theorist, a white supremacist and a satanist. All at once.
3) This year in my home state of North Carolina, five convicted felons ran for election for the office of county sheriff.
One of them was a Republican candidate in my home county. To make matters worse, he had previously served as sheriff from 1994 until 2003, when he was arrested and charged with 15 felonies.
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While sheriff, this man (Gerald Hege) painted his jail cells pink with teddy bears and re-introduced prison stripes. He drove a patrol car fueled on nitrous oxide. Instead of a service pistol, he carried an MP-5K. He drove his car at 140mph down the road in non-emergency situations, causing the department's insurance company to pull their coverage. Twice, he chased speeders into neighboring counties and opened fire on them with said MP-5. He got his own TV show and his own radio show. To host these shows, he lined the walls of his office with sandbags like a military bunker. He sold a line of merchandise, including barbecue dip, posters, model cars, and action figures of himself. After 9/11, he mailed out a Christmas card of himself holding Osama Bin Laden's severed head, like he was going to personally go to Afghanistan and kill Bin Laden.
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The office bunker.
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All this ended when he was arrested and charged with 15 felonies including embezzlement, obstructing justice, illegal wiretapping, and obtaining property under false pretenses. Throughout his term in office, Hege's motto was "no deals", yet when he was the one facing jail time he was quick to accept a plea bargain.
And yet, after completing his probation he ran for sheriff again. If he won, he would not be able to carry a gun while serving as sheriff due to being a convicted felon. Fortunately, he got crushed and lost the election in a landslide, restoring some of my faith in humanity in the process.
4) James Traficant is a former Democratic congressman from Ohio. Before becoming a congressman, he was a sheriff. He must have been pretty bad, because after he allegedly took bribes from the mafia, his entire department was declared an organized criminal organization and he was charged with racketeering under anti-mobster laws. He was acquitted, claiming he was conducting a one-man sting operation. So he ran for congress in 1985. He won.
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He was also guilty of wearing a dead ferret on his head.
In congress, he ended every speech with the words "Beam me up, Mr. Speaker." He gave a whole series of one minute speeches that can be read here (http://www.davidstuff.com/political/traficant-98.htm). While in DC, he lived in a yacht on the Potomac River with no working toilet. He said he had the yacht "so Playboy bunnies would come and visit me. I wanted to be promiscuous with them."
All this fun and games ended in 2002, when Traficant was charged with stealing money from his own campaign. He was convicted of 10 felonies and impeached from congress. He got sentenced to 7 years in prison. In prison, he was put into solitary confinement after starting a prison riot. He denied any wrongdoing, saying he was being persecuted because he had discovered the truth about "Waco, Ruby Ridge, Pan Am Flight 103, Jimmy Hoffa and the assassination of President John F. Kennedy." While in prison, he ran for election to congress. What's scary is, he got 15% of the vote in his district.
He got released from prison last year. Now, he's running for congress again. As an independent. His entire platform is to advocate repealing the 16th Amendment to the US Constitution (which authorizes the collection of income tax).
5) Richard Blumenthal is a Democratic candidate for Senate in Connecticut. As part of his campaign, he was very fond of talking about his military service with the Marine Corps in Vietnam. For example, at a veteran's gathering he said: "We have learned something important since the days that I served in Vietnam. And you exemplify it. Whatever we think about the war, whatever we call it — Afghanistan or Iraq — we owe our military men and women unconditional support."
Except the New York Times did a little bit of digging (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/18/nyregion/18blumenthal.html). And it turns out that he didn't actually serve in Vietnam. Instead, he took five draft deferments and then joined the Marine Corps Reserve and ran a Toys for Tots program in Washington DC. Not only that, but Blumenthal claimed he was captain of the swim team during his college days at Harvard. Except that he was never on the team.
Fail.
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Richard Blumenthal in deadly combat in 1969.
6) Tim D'Annunzio (http://gawker.com/5547002/republicans-afraid-tea-party-stoner-will-crush-them?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm)is a Republican congressional candidate from North Carolina. He is also bat-crap insane (http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2010/02/20/1260107/candidate-expects-war-on-liberals.html). In fact, he's so insane that the chairman of the North Carolina (http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2010/05/23/1452353/top-gop-leaders-line-up-against.html)Republican Party declared that he was "unfit to hold public office."
According to D'Annunzio:
-The US government is "the Antichrist"
-He discovered the Ark of the Covenant. In Arizona.
-He claimed in 1995 that "God was going to drop a 1,000-mile high pyramid on Greenland"
-Says he doesn't have to pay child support to his ex-wife because the government is the antichrist.
-Says he is the Messiah.
-Traveled to New Jersey to raise his stepfather from the dead.
-Says of liberals: "At what point are you going to realize this is a war to the death. This is a fight that is either the end of US or the end of them. I say it is the end of them and their evil world."
-Barack Obama and Nancy Pelosi are "liberal leftist God haters."
-Press reporters covering his campaign are "demon beasts."
-Claims that Native Americans are descended from ancient israelites, and that an ancient copy of the Ten Commandments has been found in the US.
-His plan for government is "Abolish the Departments of Education, Health and Human Services, Agriculture, Energy, Labor, Housing and Urban Development, Interior, Transportation, Treasury, and Homeland Security. Any duties remaining that are Constitutional should be rolled into other Departments."
-About his chances of winning the election: "The Republican Party establishment is against me, the intellectuals are against me, the news media is against me, the local crop farmers are against me, and of course the Democrats are against me even though they act like they want me because they think I will be an easy target of the typical attacks. I like Our odds." (In other words, politicians, thinkers, farmers and the media are all against me, so I'll win).
-And to top it all off, his campaign buttons say "Crazy for Tim D'Annunzio"
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o265/WDW_Megaraptor/LordDunzo.jpg)
He has also:
- Been to drug rehab for heroin abuse.
- Been to jail three times, for burglary, robbing a post office van, and assaulting an police officer.
- Was kicked out of the Army for using marijuana.
- Smokes weed every day.
- Cheated on his first wife, then got married immediately following their divorce.
- Has a blog called Christ's War (http://christswar.blogspot.com/)if you want to read more delusional ramblings.
Yep, these are the people who have run, been running, or are trying to run some part of America.
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I don't see what your problem with the sheriff and ferret-head are. They sound awesome.
However, do not get me started on Rand Paul... can't stand him, or any libertarians for that matter.
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And what does his use of weed have anything to do with his lack of political qualifications?
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Tim D'Annunzio won't win, he's just a nut case. There's tons of nut cases who run all the time ::)
And I support Rand's statements. He wasn't saying that racism is not morally reprehensible, he was saying that legally, one cannot prevent someone from being racist. In his opinion, and mine, any business that did not allow blacks or whites or asians or etc into their establishment would quickly rack up huge problems with public opinion, would be boycotted and campaigned against, and would by all chances be crushed. However it is still the owner's right to say that, just as the owner is allowed to discriminate against people not wearing shirts or shoes. ::) The reason he fired that staffer was because the guy was HIS staffer. He did not say the staffer couldn't hold those views, Rand just didn't want him on the campaign because of the views being morally reprehensible.
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The trouble is Mudra, D'Annuzio placed first in the Republican primary for his district with 37% of the vote. :o Because no candidate got over 40%, he is now in a runoff election on June 22nd against the second place candidate.
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Wait, seriously?
<sigh> god fucking damnit.
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I don't enjoy politics, but sometimes I do. and when I do, I drink Dos Equis. Stay Thirsty, my friends.
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However it is still the owner's right to say that, just as the owner is allowed to discriminate against people not wearing shirts or shoes. ::)
You know, for my 1,700 post, I wanted it to be awesome so here it is. I've always wanted to walk into a restraunt with no pants on and argue it only says no shoes, no shirt
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However it is still the owner's right to say that, just as the owner is allowed to discriminate against people not wearing shirts or shoes. ::)
You know, for my 1,700 post, I wanted it to be awesome so here it is. I've always wanted to walk into a restraunt with no pants on and argue it only says no shoes, no shirt
Sue anyone that discriminates against you XD
Epic comment however XD
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submit that article to cracked.com, they might even pay you good money for it.
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LOL...Only in America... ;D
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LOL...Only in America... ;D
You think? Our former foreign minister Joseph "Joschka" Fischer used to throw stones at policemen at leftist demonstrations, was famous for wearing sneakers to parliament and is famous for calling the president an asshole in a debate. (While the president was in the room btw)
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<sigh> god fucking damnit.
Well said.
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Nice story had fun reading it ;D. I love the "texas" ranger ^_^
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Very nice article. Tim James should be up there too, not on grounds of insanity but for his awful, awful adverts. And I don't even mean the views he expresses - I mean how they're filmed. Seriously, where is he going? He's wandering this way and that way - the man can't stand still, and he wants to be Governor?!
Also, my experience of hardline libertarians has universally been that they are deluded, child-like hypocrites whose political beliefs don't extend beyond a basic pre-school level of 'I want'. Rand Paul and his unelectable father can GTFO.
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So politics is a game where people who are usually incompetent to do anything else and should not be even given the power to rule themselves try to get <Palpatine>POWERRRR... UNLLLIMITEEED POWERRRR</Palpatine>
But if the politicians are few (hundred) clowns short of a full circus, who was the wacko who voted them into power in the first place?
"A five minute discussion with a random voter is the best argument against democracy." Or something to that effect was what good ol' sir Winston Churchill said. Although, he also said that "Democracy is absolutely the worst form of government - if we exclude all the other forms of government that have been tried."
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Enlightened Oligarchy is the best form. A small council that makes decision fast and without any politics.
Unfortunately those very very rarely exist.
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I'll stick with democracy thank you very much. Like Winston said, it's god-awful, except for all the other types. It's a sacrifice sometimes be I think it is a necessary sacrifice.
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pffft, politics, those people aren't elected for there skills, they are elected because they are good liars.
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No, they are elected because you've got no choice.
It's like a gang rape, you have no choice.
As much as i prefer the Libertarian, i somehow found some of their ideas unrealistic and unworldly. I just hope that they won't produce more extremist, because it would be the most awful form of extremist.
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Not like the libertarians will ever be able to do anything. If a libertarian president was elected he couldn't make good on any of his promises.
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Enlightened Theocratic Oligarchy is the best form. A small council that makes decision fast and without any politics.
Few more votes for those people mentioned it the first post and we'll be close. Just give them some super weapon.. oh wait, they have thousands of nukes already. They will go Tarkin doctrine on rest of the world's ass in no time. USA! USA! USA!
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It's like a gang rape, you have no choice.
At least 9 out of 10 people think that that is a good thing, unlike with politics.
Yeah, i just HAD to make that joke... ;D
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I've said it before and I'll say it until the day I die: Americans are fucking stupid.
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Where got the guy that disagreed when I called Obama a reasonable man in another thread lately?
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I've said it before and I'll say it until the day I die: Americans are fucking stupid.
Shall I start naming the problems with Canada? You arrogant Canadian...
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I've said it before and I'll say it until the day I die: Americans are fucking stupid.
Shall I start naming the problems with Canada? You arrogant Canadian...
LOL. Attempt naming other people's countries problems to deflect from your owns grave issues.
Kids do this. "YEAH WELL WHAT ABOUT YOU???". Typical.
Also be my guest. Remember, actual problems and not just things that are different than the U.S. Things that actually cause our country harm in serious ways. GO.
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Not like the libertarians will ever be able to do anything. If a libertarian president was elected he couldn't make good on any of his promises.
Fora true liberal to get into office they'd only stand a chanche when one wouldn't need to praise got at every oppertunity. The level of devotion to religion that seems to be required (even f it's just lip service), doesn't go too well with a true liberal agenda. Various conservative (religious) groups would have big issues with liberal stances on say drugs, research (science) and so on. But in theory atleast it should work, as corporations would love a liberal president who would be willing to give them even more liberties (well, even liberals will acknowledge some degree of regulation is needed, only the nutjobs would advocate 100% liberty).
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I so love reading about US politics. Makes my own countries political behaviour seem at least a bit more "normal". Keep it coming! :)
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Not like the libertarians will ever be able to do anything. If a libertarian president was elected he couldn't make good on any of his promises.
Fora true liberal to get into office they'd only stand a chanche when one wouldn't need to praise got at every oppertunity. The level of devotion to religion that seems to be required (even f it's just lip service), doesn't go too well with a true liberal agenda. Various conservative (religious) groups would have big issues with liberal stances on say drugs, research (science) and so on. But in theory atleast it should work, as corporations would love a liberal president who would be willing to give them even more liberties (well, even liberals will acknowledge some degree of regulation is needed, only the nutjobs would advocate 100% liberty).
I highly doubt that the senate and the house would allow any libertarian policies to pass, unless they became overnight- more-retarded. That's what checks and balances are for.
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Not like the libertarians will ever be able to do anything. If a libertarian president was elected he couldn't make good on any of his promises.
Fora true liberal to get into office they'd only stand a chanche when one wouldn't need to praise got at every oppertunity. The level of devotion to religion that seems to be required (even f it's just lip service), doesn't go too well with a true liberal agenda. Various conservative (religious) groups would have big issues with liberal stances on say drugs, research (science) and so on. But in theory atleast it should work, as corporations would love a liberal president who would be willing to give them even more liberties (well, even liberals will acknowledge some degree of regulation is needed, only the nutjobs would advocate 100% liberty).
The thing is, American liberals call for more restriction and regulation of business, not less. Conservatives call for less regulation of business in the US.
The terms "liberal" and "conservative" mean different things in the US than elsewhere. It's easiest to explain in terms of economics:
Liberal = in favor of big government spending, welfare programs, higher taxes, especially on the richest, strict regulation of business, etc.
Conservative = in favor of cutting government spending and welfare, de-regulating business, low taxes, etc.
In short, liberal = Keynesian. Conservative = Austrian school.
In terms of individual freedoms it gets confusing because almost everyone in the US is strongly in favor of individual freedoms. They just quibble on a few points. Conservatives tend to oppose things like legal abortion and gay marriage, while liberals tend to support restrictions on the private ownership of guns (although many have given up this debate as it was costing them votes, plus the US Supreme court ruled that private citizens have a right to own firearms).
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I think he meant libertarians, maybe?
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Libertarian's over here are mostly agnostic/atheists from what I see (myself included there), and are pro all individual freedom, IE, we're pro abortion, pro gay marriage, pro gun rights, and pro separation of church and state. We're also pro-small government, anti-tax, etc. Basically, I'm a libertarian. :P
Also, @ Oddball, I'd say that conservatives tend to follow Chicago school, whilst libertarians are Austrian School. There's a good entry in wikipedia that paraphrase's Hayek's essay "Why I am not a conservative":
Hayek wrote an essay titled "Why I Am Not a Conservative"[61] (included as an appendix to The Constitution of Liberty), in which he disparaged conservatism for its inability to adapt to changing human realities or to offer a positive political program. Although he noted that modern day conservatism shares many opinions on economics with classic liberals, particularly a belief in the free market, he believed it's because conservatism wants to "stand still", whereas liberalism embraces the free market because it "wants to go somewhere". Hayek identified himself as a classical liberal, but noted that in the United States it had become almost impossible to use "liberal" in its original definition, and the term "libertarian" has been used instead. However, for his part Hayek found this term "singularly unattractive" and offered the term "Old Whig" (a phrase borrowed from Edmund Burke) instead. In his later life he said: "I am becoming a Burkean Whig".
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Libertarian's over here are mostly agnostic/atheists from what I see (myself included there), and are pro all individual freedom, IE, we're pro abortion, pro gay marriage, pro gun rights, and pro separation of church and state. We're also pro-small government, anti-tax, etc. Basically, I'm a libertarian. :P
That's not entirely true, I've known many religious libertarians/libertarian-leaning individuals. However, like everything in politics there are different shades of libertarians, ranging from those with moderately libertarian views to hardcore Randians/Objectivists.
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True dat. The main one I know of of the religious nut wing (ever political party here has a religious nut wing xD) is Pat Buchanan, who really needs to stfu.... But in real life, all my libertarian friends are atheist/agnostic.
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Pat Buchanan isn't really a libertarian, rather he is a paleoconservative which is a different creature entirely.
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Ah, right you are.
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Mudra, anti-tax? It sounds like heaven but who will pay for everything?
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Note the small government bit too. And I'm not anti ALL tax, I'm for a flat tax rate a la Estonia or such. Its a simple laffer curve, the government would in fact net more money by taxing less overall because more commerece and buying, selling, and creation of wealth would occur, causing a net increase in cash flow. Same reason why lowering the price on a product will lead to higher profit.
As an example, here in california, they raised state income and sales taxes a year ago in the highest state tax increase in the history of the USA. They predicted that this would close the 40 million dollar budget gap in the state. A year later of the increased taxation, and the state is now 60 million in the hole. The tax increase drove out business, gave people less spending ability, and thus slashed state tax income.
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Thanks, I was just curious how you would think about that :P Your solution seems solid.
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Yep. And mind you, the flat tax rate would only apply to those who say, earn more then 10,000 or so above poverty line, something like that. I'm not saying that the truly dire poor should be taxed. IMO, they shouldn't pay a cent. I'd say prob a 15% tax rate up to 200,000 a year, then 20% for above 200,000 a year, for maximum revenue. Slash federal spending, and you're good to go :)
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I've said it before and I'll say it until the day I die: Americans are fucking stupid.
Shall I start naming the problems with Canada? You arrogant Canadian...
LOL. Attempt naming other people's countries problems to deflect from your owns grave issues.
Kids do this. "YEAH WELL WHAT ABOUT YOU???". Typical.
Also be my guest. Remember, actual problems and not just things that are different than the U.S. Things that actually cause our country harm in serious ways. GO.
LMAO, not saying we don't have problems....but your just being ignorant and hypocrytical to say we're stupid because we have problems, and also of your last part - "actual problems and not just things that are different than the U.S...." because you claim we are stupid because we believe in God and operate our healthcare differently...LOL. You contadict yourself!
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LMAO, not saying we don't have problems....but your just being ignorant and hypocritical to say we're stupid because we have problems, and also of your last part - "actual problems and not just things that are different than the U.S...." because you claim we are stupid because we believe in God and operate our health care differently...LOL. You contradict yourself!
You still didn't name Canada's problems smarty pants, you seemed so confident before.
and no, you are stupid because you operate your health care inefficiently and in a way that causes many problems and because you believe that you were created by an omnipotent being. Also economy, social and international relations.
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Oddball, seriously. he's just trolling you, ignore it.
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Honestly I'm not this time :(
but I did derail a part of the thread so my bad. Won't keep postin' in this thread.
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The thing is, American liberals call for more restriction and regulation of business, not less. Conservatives call for less regulation of business in the US.
I know, but since I'm not from the states, I will use my "european" (proper, ;) ) defintion of "liberal" and so on: Liberal>Liberalism>Liberty
Liberal = in favor of big government spending, welfare programs, higher taxes, especially on the richest, strict regulation of business, etc.
Conservative = in favor of cutting government spending and welfare, de-regulating business, low taxes, etc.
In short, liberal = Keynesian. Conservative = Austrian school.
In terms of individual freedoms it gets confusing because almost everyone in the US is strongly in favor of individual freedoms. They just quibble on a few points. Conservatives tend to oppose things like legal abortion and gay marriage, while liberals tend to support restrictions on the private ownership of guns (although many have given up this debate as it was costing them votes, plus the US Supreme court ruled that private citizens have a right to own firearms).
I prefer the "political compass" to somewhat fairly plot politcal ideologies: Authorian to Liberal on one axis, and progressivsm (or "left") and conservatism (right) on the other axis.
Conservatism implies you favour to keep things as they always been (or used to be). The opposit of progressivism (changing things). So indeed you would expect religions, which often are conservative themselves, to favour a conservative approach, sticking to old values, principles and rules.
I think he meant libertarians, maybe?
As I said... liberals. And I'm all for liberal policies on social issues (so that would be pro-abortion, pro-gaymarriage, pro-euthenasia etc.). On an economic scale it's more tricky. I don't want to chain corporations down too much or it might harm business, on the other hand, they do need to be kept in check with some rules and regulations to make sure they don't go on a power abuse and screw over the general public. If you give people total freehand, be it in business or politics, there are bound to be some nasty bastards that will screw you over for every penny that you are worth. So it's about a balance of protecting the weak/poor and giving people liberties to run things how they see fit. I tent to side on site of caution though, as I just know some bastard would screw consumers/us over if he gets a chanche to do so.
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I prefer the "political compass" to somewhat fairly plot politcal ideologies: Authorian to Liberal on one axis, and progressivsm (or "left") and conservatism (right) on the other axis.
Which probably works better in countries with many political parties. However, in America where we only have two major parties, a simple left-right spectrum is more common.
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Good post Mega and a good laugh too.
About the whole flat tax discussion. I actually don't mind the progressive tax scales, but I do have a problem with the spending side of the Government.
They are spending so much money on the checks and the control of the policy they are suppose to be executing.
Could be the society we live in these days, with a strong voice fro accountability and prevention of errors, that the goverment is doing a nice "Cover my ass"-policy.
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Those beautiful, beautiful Tim James ads I mentioned. Whatever you think of his politics, whoever told him to act like this in commercials needs to retake whatever film school foundation course they did.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmKNNHctti0&feature=related - Mr James wanders around his house talking about Frivolous Lawsuits, then seems to forget what he's talking about in the last few seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9ohsvJHkbY&feature=related - Mr James' notorious anti-foreign language ad, but to me what's most interesting is how we seem to be interrupting him during an important tour of his home
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMgKmgnU70c&feature=related - Mr James, no longer wearing a tie, seems in something of a hurry as he rushes around his house
...seriously. Why won't he stand still, America?
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My god those ads are horrible. What kind of dumbass designs those?
And perhaps he just likes moving around...do you?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jU7fhIO7DG0
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jU7fhIO7DG0
'We're Republicans, we're better than that.' *casually produces firearm*
God I wish we had ads like those for the Tories (Conservatives) over here.
http://www.youtube.com/user/timjames4AL#p/u/7/-t3UE_UZxPA
Here is another classic Tim James ad, this time he's sitting still but his eyes are a bit off centre, and at the end he appears to once again forget what he's talking about.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jU7fhIO7DG0
AWESOME! Thats just so wrong that it is absolutely awesome. Are Amurikans really that patriotic?
And he served in 'Nam!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9ohsvJHkbY&feature=related - Mr James' notorious anti-foreign language ad, but to me what's most interesting is how we seem to be interrupting him during an important tour of his home
I'm confused by this. English is already the official language of the state of Alabama.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9ohsvJHkbY&feature=related - Mr James' notorious anti-foreign language ad, but to me what's most interesting is how we seem to be interrupting him during an important tour of his home
I'm confused by this. English is already the official language of the state of Alabama.
Apparently the good Mr James wants to stop the drivers' licence test being given in languages other than English, as English is indeed the official language.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jU7fhIO7DG0
AWESOME! Thats just so wrong that it is absolutely awesome. Are Amurikans really that patriotic?
And he served in 'Nam!
Why... why does he have a gun with him?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jU7fhIO7DG0
AWESOME! Thats just so wrong that it is absolutely awesome. Are Amurikans really that patriotic?
And he served in 'Nam!
Why... why does he have a gun with him?
Because America, that's why.
Commie.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jU7fhIO7DG0
AWESOME! Thats just so wrong that it is absolutely awesome. Are Amurikans really that patriotic?
And he served in 'Nam!
Why... why does he have a gun with him?
Me and my friends couldn't figure that out. He just pulls the lever action out of no where. Either way, I sorta hope he wins, he's just....awesome....xDxDxD
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Man, if you want to see a bad political ad, check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RnkDTlJLdg
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jU7fhIO7DG0
AWESOME! Thats just so wrong that it is absolutely awesome. Are Amurikans really that patriotic?
And he served in 'Nam!
Why... why does he have a gun with him?
Because America, that's why.
Commie.
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/ea0f0bfaf2/we-re-better-than-that-too-w-dale-peterson
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Man, if you want to see a bad political ad, check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RnkDTlJLdg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Hill_%28Oregon_politician%29
He lost. Twice :D
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The results are in. Poor Dale Peterson finished third, with 28% of the vote. :(
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Those beautiful, beautiful Tim James ads I mentioned. Whatever you think of his politics, whoever told him to act like this in commercials needs to retake whatever film school foundation course they did.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmKNNHctti0&feature=related - Mr James wanders around his house talking about Frivolous Lawsuits, then seems to forget what he's talking about in the last few seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9ohsvJHkbY&feature=related - Mr James' notorious anti-foreign language ad, but to me what's most interesting is how we seem to be interrupting him during an important tour of his home
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMgKmgnU70c&feature=related - Mr James, no longer wearing a tie, seems in something of a hurry as he rushes around his house
...seriously. Why won't he stand still, America?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe-W4K6JVAw
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The results are in. Poor Dale Peterson finished third, with 28% of the vote. :(
:'(
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Those beautiful, beautiful Tim James ads I mentioned. Whatever you think of his politics, whoever told him to act like this in commercials needs to retake whatever film school foundation course they did.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmKNNHctti0&feature=related - Mr James wanders around his house talking about Frivolous Lawsuits, then seems to forget what he's talking about in the last few seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9ohsvJHkbY&feature=related - Mr James' notorious anti-foreign language ad, but to me what's most interesting is how we seem to be interrupting him during an important tour of his home
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMgKmgnU70c&feature=related - Mr James, no longer wearing a tie, seems in something of a hurry as he rushes around his house
...seriously. Why won't he stand still, America?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe-W4K6JVAw
Haha, poor chap.
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I'm reviving this thread to bring you one more wacky story...
7) In Tuesday's primary election to determine which candidate will run for Senate on the Democratic Party ticket in South Carolina, a unknown candidate named Alvin Greene finished first (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/08/alvin-greene-upsets-vic-r_n_605365.html).
(http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o265/WDW_Megaraptor/12622221_BG1.jpg)
Greene is 32. He is unemployed. He has held only one previous job: the Army. He was kicked out of the Army. Now, he lives in his mother's basement. He has no campaign signs. He raised no money, and didn't publicly campaign. Somehow, he supposedly paid the $10,000 filing fee out of pocket. His sole campaign promise is "To make a difference."
Yet somehow, he beat a four-term state representative (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/08/alvin-greene-upsets-vic-r_n_605365.html) by gaining 59% of the vote. The other candidate campaigned heavily. No one has any idea how this happened.
That's not all. Greene is also facing pending felony charges (http://www.live5news.com/global/Story.asp?s=12622221)for sexually harassing college students at the University of South Carolina. There is no law that prohibits convicted felons from serving in the Senate.
State Democratic party leaders have asked him to step out of the race. Greene has refused.
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It's because quite frankly the American people are fed up with these "great" politicians who have connections here and connections there that are running the country like an anarchy, they're tired of it, and this is their way of protesting the "Big Guy" and showing that we want somewhat normal people in office - not sayingt his guys all there, but it's better than Obama's electives.....
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It's because quite frankly the American people are fed up with these "great" politicians who have connections here and connections there that are running the country like an anarchy, they're tired of it, and this is their way of protesting the "Big Guy" and showing that we want somewhat normal people in office - not sayingt his guys all there, but it's better than Obama's electives.....
Convicted of sexual harassment, kicked out of the army, lives in mother's basement - i'd say that's pretty standard.
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State Democratic party leaders have asked him to step out of the race. Greene has refused.
Why? Being a scum bag he should fit right in with all the other Democrats. ;)
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Tim D'Annunzio won't win, he's just a nut case. There's tons of nut cases who run all the time ::)
And I support Rand's statements. He wasn't saying that racism is not morally reprehensible, he was saying that legally, one cannot prevent someone from being racist. In his opinion, and mine, any business that did not allow blacks or whites or asians or etc into their establishment would quickly rack up huge problems with public opinion, would be boycotted and campaigned against, and would by all chances be crushed. However it is still the owner's right to say that, just as the owner is allowed to discriminate against people not wearing shirts or shoes. ::) The reason he fired that staffer was because the guy was HIS staffer. He did not say the staffer couldn't hold those views, Rand just didn't want him on the campaign because of the views being morally reprehensible.
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It's because quite frankly the American people are fed up with these "great" politicians who have connections here and connections there that are running the country like an anarchy, they're tired of it, and this is their way of protesting the "Big Guy" and showing that we want somewhat normal people in office - not sayingt his guys all there, but it's better than Obama's electives.....
Convicted of sexual harassment, kicked out of the army, lives in mother's basement - i'd say that's pretty standard.
Well, that not exactly what I meant. I'm not saying that the people like what he has done, or who he is.. but they don't want one of Obama's scum bag propaganda spreaders in there...
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Some interviews with this guy are coming out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYtnrvn9xd4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUFN7ZkjgkA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxnTYPZOmK0
Lots of people are raising questions about how this guy managed to pay the filing fee. It's all speculation at this point, but accusations of voter fraud and that Greene is a "straw candidate" put up by someone else are already flying.
This is either American democracy at its best or American democracy at its worst... ???
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That's fucking hilarious mate... ;D
Maybe he was the lesser of two evils...
Am I the only one who hears circus music when reading about politicians?
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Yes, the whole Greene thing stinks of a GOP/KKK stitch up with a straw man. Didn't the SC GOP get in trouble for such things in the early 1990s? Someone paid an unemployed African-American fellow to enter the Republican primaries to increase turnout or something.
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Um....
1) KKK barely exists in the US anymore...around 5,000-8,000 members nation wide.
2) The guy is a democrat, not GOP.
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I'm reviving this thread to bring you one more wacky story...
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State Democratic party leaders have asked him to step out of the race. Greene has refused.
Lol, I don't know wether to laugh or to cry. People must have been quite desperate or upset to have voted for that guy in such numbers... heh...
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Or they mistook him for Obama...
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Yes, the whole Greene thing stinks of a GOP/KKK stitch up with a straw man. Didn't the SC GOP get in trouble for such things in the early 1990s? Someone paid an unemployed African-American fellow to enter the Republican primaries to increase turnout or something.
The thing is, this guy didn't do anything except put his name on the ballot. So no one had any idea what race he was until after he won.
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I'm resurrecting this thread again, because Dale Peterson has released another ad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GabMEHfCjT0
:o
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I'm resurrecting this thread again, because Dale Peterson has released another ad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GabMEHfCjT0
:o
Man with weird accent, wielding a gun, knee propped up on a barrel of hay?, dumb american demeanor, shooting rifle for no real reason, really dumb looking hat.
the sad thing is he did this to appeal to americans so he could get more popular - which means a lot of americans are like this. lord help us all.
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I'm resurrecting this thread again, because Dale Peterson has released another ad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GabMEHfCjT0
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Man with weird accent, wielding a gun, knee propped up on a barrel of hay?, dumb american demeanor, shooting rifle for no real reason, really dumb looking hat.
the sad thing is he did this to appeal to americans so he could get more popular - which means a lot of americans are like this. lord help us all.
Stereotype much? :p
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Man with weird accent, wielding a gun, knee propped up on a barrel of hay?, dumb american demeanor, shooting rifle for no real reason, really dumb looking hat.
Watch it buddy, that accent ain't weird in the southeastern US...
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Man with weird accent, wielding a gun, knee propped up on a barrel of hay?, dumb american demeanor, shooting rifle for no real reason, really dumb looking hat.
Watch it buddy, that accent ain't weird in the southeastern US...
Speaking of racism... it's good to know your not.. ::)
At least that guys deserves a hell of a lot more respect than you.
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Speaking of funny accents and speech:
is considered to be too professional. (http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/06/16/obama.speech.analysis/index.html?hpt=C1)
President Obama's speech on the gulf oil disaster may have gone over the heads of many in his audience, according to an analysis of the 18-minute talk released Wednesday. Tuesday night's speech from the Oval Office of the White House was written to a 9.8 grade level, said Paul J.J. Payack, president of Global Language Monitor. The Austin, Texas-based company analyzes and catalogues trends in word usage and word choice and their impact on culture.
Though the president used slightly less than four sentences per paragraph, his 19.8 words per sentence "added some difficulty for his target audience," Payack said. He singled out this sentence from Obama as unfortunate: "That is why just after the rig sank, I assembled a team of our nation's best scientists and engineers to tackle this challenge -- a team led by Dr. Steven Chu, a Nobel Prize-winning physicist and our nation's secretary of energy. "A little less professorial, less academic and more ordinary," Payack recommended. "That's the type of phraseology that makes you (appear) aloof and out of touch."
The monitor's chief word analyst found these three sentences insensitive: "Already, this oil spill is the worst environmental disaster America has ever faced. And unlike an earthquake or a hurricane, it is not a single event that does its damage in a matter of minutes or days. The millions of gallons of oil that have spilled into the Gulf of Mexico are more like an epidemic, one that we will be fighting for months and even years."
"You shouldn't be saying that in Katrina land," said Payack, referring to the 2005 hurricane that devastated the Gulf Coast. "New Orleans lost a third of its population; it's still recovering."
But he praised Obama's phrase "oil began spewing" as active and graphic.
iReporter:Obama's speech too fuzzy on details (http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-460899)
At a micro level, the average word in the speech contained 4.5 letters, a bit longer than is typical for the former constitutional law professor, Payack said.
Obama's nearly 10th-grade-level rating was the highest of any of his major speeches and well above the Grade 7.4 of his 2008 "Yes, we can" victory speech, which many consider his best effort, Payack said.
"The scores indicate that this was not Obama at his best, especially when attempting to make an emotional connection to the American people," he added.
Wait, a 9-10th grade level is too sophisticated? *facepalm* Shouldn't you expect from people with a reasonably educated background to convey their message in a clear and correct manner. Which doesn't equal using simplistic language, because then you might drop some nuances and thus be misunderstood or misinterpreted.
Wouldn't an "optimal" language level be one that quite clearly shows you're quite knowledgable yet be understandable for people who finished highschool with reasonable marks. Sure, if you failed highschool, or barely made it through and now mow lawns for a living then you might just not understand a few lines. But if we'd have to lower the difficulty level to take into account people who have pretty poor knowledge/understanding of the (English) language then speeches would make many people feel like they are being threated as if they are idiots. ::)
Or was Bush actually quite skilled in linguistics, being able to operate on an academic level without problems if he really had to, but he chose to use 3-4th grade language to connect with the (below) avarage american?
Or should Obama have resorted to acting a caveman: Hand him a club to hit the BP logo with, while he jumps up and down, making angry caveman noices and the words "BP bad, BP pay!".
Obviously there won't be any room to blame the subcontractors of BP such as Transocean and Halliburton. That would make the issue much too complex, it's all 100% BP's fault. Alright 99%, and 1% due to piss poor goverment regulation. But this can be simplified to "BP is to blame for everything" or better yet, the above mentioned caveman scenario.
Edit: I just realized that cavemen could be sensed to be too elitist, with them wearing furr and all... and who wears furr too? Yep, the elite upper class. Not the avarage, hard working, real, American. So perhaps it would be better if Obama resorted to dressing up like a cowboy and local sheriff, using some good old pistols to shoot at the BP logo while shouting "BP bad, AmericaA-murikah good!" , firing a few rounds random rounds and a "YEEEHAWWW" into the air ofcourse aswell while at it. ;D
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http://www.theonion.com/video/portrayal-of-obama-as-elitist-hailed-as-step-forwa,14263/
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Sad as F***, cause it's funny and a little true.
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Isn't it a good thing for a politician to be smarter than normal people (especially considering how dumb the majority is?)