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Re: M1 garand with scope - M1C or M1D
« Reply #30 on: 09-02-2011, 13:02:31 »
Fuchs. This is exactly what i mean. This is NOT whining. This is stating out a fact.

And everytime someone ELSE does this, he to gets the reply=STOP WHINING

Sure dude, devs are delibirately not making Allied stuff so German stuff maintains superiority.

Dream on.
i never said they did  ;)

My point is not=To much german stuff
My point is=The germans get fancy stuff, therefor the allies should get it aswel

Shall we bury the subject?
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Re: M1 garand with scope - M1C or M1D
« Reply #31 on: 09-02-2011, 13:02:14 »
There is a line between stating a fact and whining.  You sir, are whining.

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Re: M1 garand with scope - M1C or M1D
« Reply #32 on: 09-02-2011, 14:02:25 »
There is a line between stating a fact and whining.  You sir, are whining.
far from it. I stated a fact by showing numbers on what the germans have and the allies.
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Re: M1 garand with scope - M1C or M1D
« Reply #33 on: 09-02-2011, 14:02:20 »
I agree with theta.If the Jerry gets a STG44 scoped so does the Yanks need a funny Easter egg kit with scope.

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Re: M1 garand with scope - M1C or M1D
« Reply #34 on: 09-02-2011, 14:02:56 »
far from it. I stated a fact by showing numbers on what the germans have and the allies.
I'll take that as a fact when you go through objects_vehicles_server.zip and objects_weapons_server.zip and come back with evidence on how many things each army has (including and not including duplicate/near identical vehicles).

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Re: M1 garand with scope - M1C or M1D
« Reply #35 on: 09-02-2011, 15:02:42 »
Why the Germans have more stuff ingame? Because they suffocated themselves with hoards of different projects of weapons and tanks.

The western allies produced shitloads of M4 tanks, M10/36 tank destroyers, Cromwells and Churchills and that was it. The Germans used a large variety of different own and captured tanks and tank hunters and their versions, and even more converted stuff.

That is of course mainly for the Normandy campaign. See the Western Desert Campaign for example, there the Commonwealth forces have more stuff than the Germans.

The devs's can't just make up stuff for the allies to "even out" the number of weapons and vehicles. So no, you won't see a scoped M1 Garand in Europe just because the Germans have more different marksman weapons.

As for the StG-44 ZF Easter egg, they all should be burned. Or rather used as an Easter egg. But I actually see a fix for this in the future.

Edit: And the certain someone who keeps whining about the Puma... The main recon vehicle of the panzer divisions in Normandy... 60 served in the very small area. Yet you have no problems with the rather rare Deacon on Mareth Line, or the AA Crusader on Totalize, which was barely even used in real life.
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Re: M1 garand with scope - M1C or M1D
« Reply #36 on: 09-02-2011, 15:02:04 »
Once again, its not the point about the germans having to much stuff. Its more about, if the germans get a fancy easter egg like lets say, the STG44 ZF, then something like a scoped garand shouldnt be out of place

Same goes with for example, the Spingfield M1903A1 being added now. A second line rifle. So the germans should get IMO also there piece, like lets say Vz 22 rifles, and many other foreign rifles. it is also Historical accurate.

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I just...couldnt do it. Moddeling, coding   it just issent in my nature. I even got a headache of the basics of the basics of the basics.

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Re: M1 garand with scope - M1C or M1D
« Reply #37 on: 09-02-2011, 15:02:25 »
Once again, its not the point about the germans having to much stuff. Its more about, if the germans get a fancy easter egg like lets say, the STG44 ZF, then something like a scoped garand shouldnt be out of place

StG-44 ZF shouldn't be there at all. I guess I can say that it will be greatly reduced, or let's say removed, in future releases.

That would be the correct solution, not adding even more stuff that makes no sense.
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Re: M1 garand with scope - M1C or M1D
« Reply #38 on: 09-02-2011, 15:02:59 »
Fair enough i guess. Its a nice thing, but it just doesnt fit.

Lets hope for an alpenfestung map then where it can make an appearnce
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Re: M1 garand with scope - M1C or M1D
« Reply #39 on: 09-02-2011, 15:02:30 »


That would be the correct solution, not adding even more stuff that makes no sense.

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Re: M1 garand with scope - M1C or M1D
« Reply #40 on: 09-02-2011, 23:02:49 »
OMG. Just stop. Whine or no whine.... Question : should the Americans get a scoped Garand for the fullfilling of a long range rifle spot that is missing? Yes. Balance or not? I think balance. OP or not? Not even close since snipers and scoped weapons are pickups kits that are rare.

Had enough? I think so. What have we learned? Nobody is yelling out BIAS!!

We just want 1 !! nice/ neat thing for the other nation(s)

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Re: M1 garand with scope - M1C or M1D
« Reply #41 on: 09-02-2011, 23:02:37 »
Why? Springfield is one of the finest snipers ingame with (for gaming) the best crosshair. They already got a splendid long range rifle.
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Re: M1 garand with scope - M1C or M1D
« Reply #42 on: 09-02-2011, 23:02:59 »
I think Alpen, and only Alpenstung.

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Re: M1 garand with scope - M1C or M1D
« Reply #43 on: 09-02-2011, 23:02:28 »
Dude, stop whining about 'gurman biass wtfffff!11!' you seriously think that the devs are all like 'hehe, let's make everything for the German team and NOTHING for the Allied team! Hahahahah!'

When they NEED it, it will be made. When they FEEL like it, they will make it. More stuff is being made everyday, not because every side needs to be mirror-balanced in vehicles but because they need it, made it or think it's damn fun.

So, in all seriousness, stop being so annoying.
Wow, this is rather contradicting; but unfortunately no... it's not necessarily that they "NEED" it because there are rather rare German armour pieces that were not "NEEDED". There are tons of stuff that could potentially still be added except apparently they didn't "FEEL" like it. No one is whinning and no one is asking to 'even' out the weapons/vehicles just saying it wouldn't hurt to put a little more emphasis on a little more amount of allied equiptment. Right now you're the one that just sounds like a German fanboy, so i'd quit the mocking and stict to the facts.

As for the sniper rifle, if it was not used in current maps...fine...don't add it yet, but i'm sure it will be needed in an upcomming release so it really doesn't harm to create it. Like Thorondor says, the scoped StG-44 should be removed for now and placed in a more accurate map later.

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Re: M1 garand with scope - M1C or M1D
« Reply #44 on: 09-02-2011, 23:02:33 »
Please name things, can't really imagine what you mean.
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