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Re: Revolting Uniting
« Reply #6270 on: 04-08-2015, 22:08:55 »
Oh yeah I was on my phone. Feel free to disagree but you don't need to prove me wrong about my opinion, I guess everyone else here agrees against some stuff I say here already.

Basically they undermine the ottoman losses and put up others in the spotlight at the face of cruelty of the state, trying to form a de jure claim, like in CK2, out of propaganda and in the means of reperations. They constantly point to the fact that mount Agri is not included in the modern Armenia, claim Sevres's borders to be rightful and them being the victims of a unilateral massacre in the name of "Genocide".

Some western states have supported the notion through armed enforcement during early twentieth century and propaganda through modern years, out of, personally I think the same reasons that led the crusaders to the gates of a city in the middle of the desert: hate and spite.

Now the propaganda part is simple enough, here's an example on how it's done. If you pour enough money, things will happen in your favor. Make 24'th of April a special day in the hearts of the western civilisation thousands of miles away and bury your mischiefs deep in the cover of-we've faced them. Of course this gets you into clear when asked about Algerian and Congolese genocides, the horrors the Ottoman Muslims faced and the pain Tatars suffered in Russian rule.

http://www.rt.com/usa/250733-sony-state-russian-narrative/

This also involves undermining the opposing actors losses and claims by simply taking away their option of speech, as was seen recently in germany, where the government didn't let a movie that denied the "genocide of the armenians", jailing the truth like in Switzerland, or by not paying attention or support to the efforts to understand the other sides of a story, as we see how the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Ottoman_Muslims website was only translated to four languages, compared to 76 languages a certain topic of a similar notion was translated into.

There will be no amends made unless both sides sit on a table and make their claims to be clear, and I don't think it will ever be done on the grounds of a claim of a genocide.
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« Reply #6271 on: 05-08-2015, 14:08:29 »
Obviously I'm a bad man.
I hurt children today.
At least that is what their dad stated.
'Dad' was in a Skoda Roomster in front of me when waiting at the red lights.
He had all windows closed.
Still, it seem to have been urgent, otherwise he wouldn't have suggested to turn down my music after he got out of his car and came over.
After that the lights switched to green and he turned right while I was going straight.
Makes you wonder: what was it good for if he turns into a different road anyway?

He was that person you expect to be married with children. Brown, proper fitting jeans, shirt with a color I forgot and a haircut that makes any mother-in-law the proudest of her country.

Still, I'm wondering. I had no buzzing in my ears, not even after 15 minutes. And it didn't hurt at all. Accordingly it hurts within the children's ears, is the most ridiculous statement I've gotten for a long time.
If it was an infant, I might have kept it from sleeping. Agreed.
But everything else is beyond my possibilities.
If I actually could make people's ears bleed, I'd do it all the time.

I bet he didn't like my music, do you?

Steve Aoki & Laidback Luke ft Lil Jon - Turbulence (Sidney Samson Remix)

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I usually imagine my own sounds with it, like `tjunk, tupdieyupdiedee` aaa enemy spotted, ratatatataboom

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« Reply #6272 on: 05-08-2015, 14:08:21 »
Steve aoki, one of the Dj's i enjoy seeing live
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Re: Revolting Uniting
« Reply #6273 on: 05-08-2015, 14:08:28 »
Steve aoki is not a DJ.
He is an EDM artist/performer

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« Reply #6274 on: 05-08-2015, 19:08:32 »
Steve aoki is not a DJ.
He is an EDM artist/performer

LOL yeah Mozart look out there is a new genius in town.

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« Reply #6275 on: 07-08-2015, 01:08:48 »
Status update:

The civil war has already reached turkish Kurdistan. There are gunfights between the police and kurdish militias at night. Each day fighters and policemen seem to die in this war. The turkish police is desperately trying to maintain control over south east Turkey, with great effort and little success. Actually I'm surprised the police is still keeping up.

And this is IMHO only because Erdogan granted the IS great freedom as an instrument to limit powers of Assad and the Kurds. Up to the point where the IS can freely murder kurds on turkish soil. But instead of fighting the IS, Erdogan is bombing the kurds then. He is really litting up turkey now.

So, the police lit up forests around Cizre to deny PKK fighters any cover:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXBI16cqAPU

There are militia roadblocks being build in Cizre:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24FIDoRpBeU&t=80
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPC5V55h42A&t=20

There are gunfights:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXBI16cqAPU&t=255

And after all policemen die (warning: graphical content):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJofrnKHlV4

Do you feel the hate? Who wants to die for Erdogan?

I usually imagine my own sounds with it, like `tjunk, tupdieyupdiedee` aaa enemy spotted, ratatatataboom

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« Reply #6276 on: 07-08-2015, 14:08:05 »
Unnecessary death for both Turks and Kurds.

These two conflicting idiots should seek their dispute resolved immediately. Haven't they heard the old saying "the enemy of my enemy is my friend?" Well, until you know who your real enemy is, nobody will wise up.

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« Reply #6277 on: 07-08-2015, 18:08:08 »
Well the game is somewhat different from nineties. With professional fortifications, night vision and thermal equipment, drones, mortar radars, wired guns and mine protected vehicles it is hardly an even game. The countryside is, effectively, a slaughterhouse for the terrorists. We've seen the end to it through armed struggle in early 2000's, no group has infinite manpower.

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Re: Revolting Uniting
« Reply #6278 on: 07-08-2015, 21:08:29 »
@Dukat, the last link you gave us is from Bahrain.

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« Reply #6279 on: 01-09-2015, 15:09:09 »
Last month, the whole media is panicking over Muslims escaping to ISIL. My terrorist-leaning friends over Facebook hinted a smugness about it. How many escapees we talk about? 30-50 people at most, per country. Typical media sensationalism.

Now we have this:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-24583286

It is a living proof that the Da'esh are bunch of bahluls with no sense of nationhood. Let alone trying to recreate the glorious Caliphate of Ottoman. How many people choose Europe instead? 340,000 - only those accounted. There are 1,000 times more people who think that Europe > Da'esh.

I hope these poor people respects the place they seek refuge in. A lot of people won't welcome them with open arms, we know. Sometimes the free world must learn that there are some places on Earth where Ordered Evil is better than Chaotic Good. Russia for example.

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Re: Revolting Uniting
« Reply #6280 on: 01-09-2015, 15:09:53 »
You have terrorist-leaning friends? Have you told them that they're douchebags?


 Sometimes the free world must learn that there are some places on Earth where Ordered Evil is better than Chaotic Good. Russia for example.
I don't think it's so black & white.  Take the Middle East, for example.  The reason it is in the mess it's in now is because of "Ordered Evil" regimes.  We can claim that Iraq was better off under Saddam, but if there had been no Saddam there would have been no Islamic State.
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« Reply #6281 on: 01-09-2015, 17:09:54 »

We can claim that Iraq was better off under Saddam, but if there had been no Saddam there would have been no Islamic State.

Thats like saying if there weren't any dicks there wouldn't be any rapes. Yes at its core its right but you cant really jump into that conclusion using logic.

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« Reply #6282 on: 01-09-2015, 18:09:14 »
It all makes sence now :-)
ISIS is "the weapon of mass destruction" that could not be found in Saddam´s Iraq

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Re: Revolting Uniting
« Reply #6283 on: 01-09-2015, 19:09:36 »
Is russia now making camps in Siria to help Bashar al Adad?
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« Reply #6284 on: 01-09-2015, 20:09:33 »
As a fellow "orderly evil" camps, Putin and Al-Assad naturally work together.

CPS:
yes, it is obviously hinted, they use underground currency, which constitutes a crime, on religious grounds. They openly support replacing the constitution with Shari'a rulings. This fanatics broke one and two good laws for the sake of religious rulings. Yet, they become quite an arsehole about most other things, basic things like courtesy at traffic, queueing, helping others in public (holding doors or lifts for others), greeting back the door keeper, cheating the customers out of their change money (it is similar to stealing). As if Allah overlooks their unruly behaviour in place of their favourite Juz or verses of Qur'an. As an outsider, challenging them is like fuelling their propaganda about their religion being secretly opressed by the unseen force aligned with the west. All I need is just to remind them that their Toyota minivan, its comfortable AC, the plushy seat, their phone, oh goodness, their facebook and instagram accounts would only make them harder to reach their own criteria of paradise or heaven.

Now, Saddam Hussein was a bad person. He didn't get away with it. If only USA knows the difference between religious fanatics and Arab nationalists. They chose the fanatics instead, and disbanded the Ba'ath party. The headless crowd found new cause in violent fanatical beliefs. I'd say if they were given their nationalism toy, we would still see Iraqi Christians taking minister posts while vaguely throwing insults at America. Is it better? They gassed the Kurds, kidnap and tortured dissents? Is it any better than the loud beheading-lover uncivilised thugs like the Da'esh? Well, at least it won't shower the EU with millions of refugees.

Some Asians (people from Asia, the continent) are born with political mind, many are not. They choose stability, prosperity, and security instead. Many times at the expense of others. It is not surprising the so-beloved western media darling "democracy fighters" like Aung San Suu Kyi stay quiet about Rohingya massacre and Buddhist terrorism movement that started to emerge from Srilanka to Myanmar. I don't think the Tibetans, Uyghurs, Acehnese, Moro, nor the Southern Thais will speak the same about Tibetan caste system and slavery, or Uyghurs doing what the Pashtun Afghans do. Well, how is the IRA or ETA up there? Surely we are all very big about some folks wanting freedom, but we won't tolerate violence, especially terrorism, right?

Now, I am all with the west, at least the BBC reports that Churchill starved India, interfered with Iran democracy, and get away with it, but British public voted this warmonger out right after WW2 ended. So does Tony Blair. I am glad the Brits are pretty fair and square about pressing issues. So, I am still on the west's side on this matter, but like most, I do have a lot to criticise. But some like China or Russia media should have their critique license revoked. Yes, we understand why do they need dictatorship, but while at it, they should STFU about some ironic issues.