Deaths as Israeli forces storm Gaza aid ship

[[WDW]Megaraptor]

Some of you probably heard about this game before and played it, but for those who did not, here is a link. Try to make the dreams of there people come true, i am sure you can do it

http://www.spg.org.il/

Why do these game developers think Israel put these security measures in place? Just because they enjoy making life difficult for people?

[siben]

Some of you probably heard about this game before and played it, but for those who did not, here is a link. Try to make the dreams of there people come true, i am sure you can do it

http://www.spg.org.il/

Why do these game developers think Israel put these security measures in place? Just because they enjoy making life difficult for people?

If you would finish the game you would find out that the designers say that violence is not the solution but peace talks are. They are just giving examples of what these security measures also do. Things that are completely unrelated to anything violent. Also, some rules in this game are in effect since 1968, like not being allowed to leave gaza without a special permission of the Israeli army. Saying that you have been excepted in a university outside of gaza and that you would like to go there to study is not a valid reason to get a permit. This is just delibirately making life hard on those people. They are not even giving them a chance to try and improve. Keeping a population uneducated will only increase fundamentalism.

[[WDW]Megaraptor]

People can leave Gaza. My Arabic professor at University grew up in the Gaza Strip before emigrating to the USA. He could travel back to visit family (before the Hamas takeover).

[Stefan]

and the Belgian/German ministers arent allowed into gaza.

[Yam52]

Just seen news on the internet, says european ministers will be/are allowed to enter gaza.

[Stefan]

Just seen news on the internet, says european ministers will be/are allowed to enter gaza.

Wasnt true till a couple of days ago

[Yam52]

I know, its NEWS.

[[130.Pz]S.Lainer]

LOL!

Why are they allowing them in anyway?

[Stefan]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle+east-10646355

The issue at hand which prevents peace

[[WDW]Megaraptor]

East Jerusalem was annexed to Israel decades ago, why can't Israeli citizens move there? Does the government of Belgium say you can't move to Antwerp?

[Stefan]

i know you are retarded megaraptor, but ill write it for those who wonder whats going on .

By moving in jews to east jerusalem israel wants to claim east jerusalem, 2 state solution would mean at least east jerusalem would become palestine land even if you use the 1967 borders.

Thats why israel doesnt want peace at the moment and keeps building settlements in palestine land or as in the jerusalem case pushing them out.

[[WDW]Megaraptor]

i know you are retarded megaraptor, but ill write it for those who wonder whats going on .

By moving in jews to east jerusalem israel wants to claim east jerusalem, 2 state solution would mean at least east jerusalem would become palestine land even if you use the 1967 borders.

Thats why israel doesnt want peace at the moment and keeps building settlements in palestine land or as in the jerusalem case pushing them out.

Yes and so what? 1967 borders will never become the boundaries of a Palestinian state so give it up already. 1967 borders are nothing but a military accident of the 1948 war. They have no real importance in and of themselves and this fuss about "returning" to them is bullcrap.

[Stefan]

i know you are retarded megaraptor, but ill write it for those who wonder whats going on .

By moving in jews to east jerusalem israel wants to claim east jerusalem, 2 state solution would mean at least east jerusalem would become palestine land even if you use the 1967 borders.

Thats why israel doesnt want peace at the moment and keeps building settlements in palestine land or as in the jerusalem case pushing them out.

Yes and so what? 1967 borders will never become the boundaries of a Palestinian state so give it up already. 1967 borders are nothing but a military accident of the 1948 war. They have no real importance in and of themselves and this fuss about "returning" to them is bullcrap.

well in that case we can go back to the 1948 borders

[[WDW]Megaraptor]

i know you are retarded megaraptor, but ill write it for those who wonder whats going on .

By moving in jews to east jerusalem israel wants to claim east jerusalem, 2 state solution would mean at least east jerusalem would become palestine land even if you use the 1967 borders.

Thats why israel doesnt want peace at the moment and keeps building settlements in palestine land or as in the jerusalem case pushing them out.

Yes and so what? 1967 borders will never become the boundaries of a Palestinian state so give it up already. 1967 borders are nothing but a military accident of the 1948 war. They have no real importance in and of themselves and this fuss about "returning" to them is bullcrap.

well in that case we can go back to the 1948 borders

What 1948 borders?

[silian]

What 1948 borders?

You know, when Israel was formed from the state of Palestine. 



The Nazis had a name for what the Israelis are doing, "Lebensraum" or "Living Space".

It amazes me how little the Israeli Government has learnt from the persecution of the Jews by the Nazis, actually they seemed to have learned quite a bit. Clearly the holocaust makes Israel immune from the constraints of international law.