Modify the Willys MB-2 (Rockets)

[Hans Werner]

Hi,

There is a big issue with the Willys MB-2 (Rockets), US players use it as an Anti Tank jeep by driving fast to the back of German tanks and by firing into them. It's always a 1s1k hit... I'm sure this jeep has never been used like that in the real war... Is it possible to modify it to avoid this kind of exploit ? Dunno how you can fix that (maybe by adding a long delay before to be able to fire like that the driver won't be able to drive, stop and shoot so close of a tank in few second ?) but this is really annoying because it's clearly an exploit IMO.

[IrishReloaded]

just make is as slow as the stuka zu fuss is. That would be fair.

[THeTA0123]

Oh yes take away everything fun for the allies. Yet kubelshrecking remained for 3 versions in FH2...

[Hans Werner]

Oh yes take away everything fun for the allies. Yet kubelshrecking remained for 3 versions in FH2...

It's not a question of fun, it's question of being realistic... If you want fun why not adding Laser Gun to tank in FH2 !!! Seriously this issue have to be fix and also the kubelshrecking one IMO.

[GuinNess]

just make is as slow as the stuka zu fuss is. That would be fair.

But then it would not be realistic as the jeep is a fast vehicule...

I think its fine. I don't see a lot of people doing this on public servers. Also there are also guys who want the kübelschreck back, some time ago there was a threat i think...

[IrishReloaded]

mh how heavy was the rocket stuff on the back?
i guess 1-2 tons or even more on such a small vehicle is pretty much

[Eglaerinion]

It's really hard to put the Willy in a good position to kill a tank, besides that the rocket willy is extremely rare. Kubelshrecking was very easy because of the availability of the the ordinary jeep and AT weapon.

I think its fine. I don't see a lot of people doing this on public servers. Also there are also guys who want the kübelschreck back, some time ago there was a threat i think...

Bunch of fanatics. 

[Kelmola]

Let's see. The fragile jeep has to come to a full stop, then the driver has switch to the gunner's seat, then hope that the tank does not move while the rockets "load"... even if there's a driver in addition to the gunner, it's far from easy to use it as a back-firing anti-tank machine. Making it as slow as Stuka-zu-Fuß won't work, because the 251 hull is protected against small-arms fire and offers some defence against shrapnel. The Jeep will blow up if someone looks at it ugly. Also, the tanker should mind his or her back, because the best defence against Jeep-rocketing is as simple as to back up a few dozen metres and hose the thing with coax MG.

I'd say leave it as is.

[Hans Werner]

Let's see. The fragile jeep has to come to a full stop, then the driver has switch to the gunner's seat, then hope that the tank does not move while the rockets "load"... even if there's a driver in addition to the gunner, it's far from easy to use it as a back-firing anti-tank machine. Making it as slow as Stuka-zu-Fuß won't work, because the 251 hull is protected against small-arms fire and offers some defence against shrapnel. The Jeep will blow up if someone looks at it ugly. Also, the tanker should mind his or her back, because the best defence against Jeep-rocketing is as simple as to back up a few dozen metres and hose the thing with coax MG.

I'd say leave it as is.

The issue is this jeep is really fast and when you play a German heavy tank (like Jagdpanther) you can't turn the tank enough quickly to avoid this kind of attack and especially with the new low speed tank turret system you can't do nothing. This Jeep has been made to be a mobile artillery, not a mobile AT Gun, and that's the point. I already saw this exploit several times especially on Vossenack.

I'm sure devs didn't added this jeep to be used this way, and it's not at all realistic. I like the idea that FH2 is a WW2 historical game and not a Quake-like where all exploit are a kind of gameplay. Did I'm wrong ? 

[Butcher]

someone was camping with the thing at the german base on vossenack ruining the whole game the other day. i still dont know where that guy was. however we couldnt get out of the base because he always shot us in the rear and sides immediately killing every tank. a jeep that got about 10 tank kills, yeah very cool. just hide that thing in the forest and get kills.

the thing is rather annoying and threwing up gameplay because its always used against tanks. something needs to be done.

[Musti]

Wow you weren't able to kill a JEEP?
Id say it was the teams fault.I don't see anyone complaining about KTs camping at eppeldorf where allies have no TDs to destroy them on that map.

[IrishReloaded]

next problem. The KT in a skilled tankers hand on this map is such uberkill .

[flyboy_fx]

It is realistic. In FH2 we are not afraid to die... I'm sure the men in WW2 would do the same thing if not afraid to die.

[HadrianBT]

I have been on both sides of the rocket-willy (one time for each) and I have to say that it is indeed very easy to get a kill from the willys on a tank, let alone an SPG. Especially one that does not have a coax MG. Because most of the time you have an AP loaded and it takes forever to load a HE and get the Willys in the crosshairs.

I also don't understand why it cannot be made slower. The rockets reach over the whole map anyway, there is no need to even leave the mainbase.

[flyboy_fx]

Don't fk it up please... Balance between realism and fun... FFS...