M1919A4 .30 cal effectiveness

[Ts4EVER]

The problem is not so much position of the gun, but the sights imo. With the MG42/34 it is very easy to get the drop on people with the scope. The M1919 has a sight similar to most handheld MGs, with the notable drawback of not being able to change positions fast (as in move back a few metres into cover). Regardless, I was able to use it successfully a few times on Lüttich and PHL.

[VonMudra]

Wasn't the .30 cal often fired from a prone position?
Part of the problem would be solved if you could use two different positions with the gun: one crouching and one prone, seen as two guns sharing the same ammo in the menu, the first one used when you need to see and observe, the second one for when sticking your head out would be too dangerous.

Problem is, the 30cal tripod can literally only be fired from a prone position, unless you set the tripod on something high up like a table or over a trench or such.  You can't set it on the ground and fire from a crouch unless you just wanna randomly spray without being able to look down the sights at all


And I'm kinda iffy on tracers.  For the most part, soldiers removed them from the belts as they spelled a death sentence, especially at night.

[Alakazou]

2 thing to help making the MG more effective.
For all the MG: the old supression effect (but I know what the dev will say... just make a poll on the main page about this and other gameplay effet)

For the m1919: the invisible shield.

It will simulate a more realistic use of the MG.

[VonMudra]

Or as suggested, not even an "invisible shield", just included a small sandbag wall in front of it when its deployed.  Do same for lafette and vickers

And don't forget the invisible shield lowering for the lafette to represent the guy ducking down with the tripod xD

[Wyrdstone]

Sandbags would be nice.
Maybe not on the lafette though. That thing is already much better than the other 3.

[Rustysteel]

I'm of the opinion that the easiest fix for this is to remove the tracers.

That^. Actually I'd remove tracers from tanks also, at least from the 2nd mg so the passanger can shoot all he wants without giving away my position.

^What they both said

Spawnable MG's or the pickup kits are just not that intimadating or challenging to come up against ingame. Someone is far more likely to follow your tracer and pick you off with a rifle than you are to actually use it for it's proper purpose i.e. suppressing an area.


If the tank hull MG tracer isn't removed ,then I'd vote for a  'kill MG gunner' button for the driver of the tank. Stop those traitors giving away my postion!

[THeTA0123]

A diffrent sound maybe might do the trick. The current one sounds so dull. Something like the .30 CAL from Band of brothers would be nice

[SJonni]

Well, the MG should make players think "Hell no! I'm not going out there while that thing is breaking havoc". But the problem right now is that it doesn't.

[McCloskey]

Well, the MG should make players think "Hell no! I'm not going out there while that thing is breaking havoc". But the problem right now is that it doesn't.

That's what I'm trying to achieve here - right now this doesn't work because the enemy knows he can own you head-on. If that became impossible for him, he would learn not to peek his head over a wall and try to shoot you while you're unleashing hell on him and he would stay down (otherwise he would die).

I like the gun itself alone, without any sandbags around and such. Also those sandbags could appear weird on some places etc. Adding that shield thingy wouldn't add anything your eye would notice, but the gameplay would change drastically (or at least it would change at all).

[THeTA0123]

overall sounds may increase in volume. Weapon sounds need a boost on some guns

Also the engine sound of tanks may be louder aswel

I wanna stand next to a tiger tank and say on VOIP=WHAT? I CANT HEAR YOU BECAUSE OF THIS MAYBACH HL230 RUNNING AT 3000RPM

[hOMEr_jAy]

I still can´t understand why the old supressive effect has been removed. Everytime sometime talks about this topic many voices want it back.
Apart from that the current effect is rather ridiculous since in real life even a 9mm round impacting on the ground throws up lots of debris. Also the effect of being shot at is extremely intimidating. Imagine a full burst of 8mm Mauser rounds coming in close to you. You wouldn´t just stop, open fire on the gun because the bullets don´t directly hit you...instead you hit the dirt and seek as much cover as possible...there is a reason covering fire is usefull..
Other than that I can only support the shield suggestion for the M1919A4 and the correct player positions for the MG42 Lafette.

[Alakazou]

I still can´t understand why the old supressive effect has been removed. Everytime sometime talks about this topic many voices want it back.

Some little f..... were crying it was unfair. It's a great feature.

[McCloskey]

Unfair? In which way it was "unfair"? Or is a meaning of the word "unfair" somehow escaping me? Damn...

[Ionizer]

Unfair? In which way it was "unfair"? Or is a meaning of the word "unfair" somehow escaping me? Damn...

Part of it was that people with slower computers suffered the suppression effect longer than people with faster computers.  Part of it was that people didn't want to be forced to play the game a certain way by a feature that they said "forced mental and psychological effects" onto them.  Most of it was a bunch of whiny bitches moaning about how they couldn't pwn people like they could in FH1.

This is coming from one the few people belonging to that community who loved the suppression effect.

[VonMudra]

I don't  think I've seen a single person on the these forums who doesn't love the old supression effect from 2.0....