You're free to make suggestions on this forum, but keep in mind that it is mostly "dead."

The forum is "dead" because the gameplay in terms of firefights with small arms since version 2.4 has slightly deteriorated due to the fact that you increased the recoil of submachine guns, removed the crosshairs from the screen, and made some other changes that made the shooting process worse than it was. I myself have been playing FH2 with bots since 2009 and I remember what the first versions 2.0, 2.1 were like. In these first versions, the shooting process with small arms was more enjoyable than it is now. I have some guesses why, starting with version 2.4, you did this and how to fix it so that it would be better.

I think you are not understanding me: This phenomenon is not related to weapon recoil settings, but the game tickrate and how recoil frames are rendered. It is not something we can easily fix.

I got it. The fact that you said that sometime in the future this can be corrected is already good. It makes me happy. But I think you will have to divert the time of the developers of the mod for this from something else. What else are you doing now? What's your other priority? Is the creation of new maps a priority? I think most fans of the game would like to prioritize improving the gameplay over creating new maps. I think when choosing between these two priorities, most fans would vote to improve the gameplay instead of creating new maps. If necessary, I can write such a vote.

People will play little on new maps if the gameplay is burdened with a number of unpleasant things that make it much worse than it could be. For the same reason, you have a fairly small influx of new audiences. I can tell you what exactly would be worth changing to improve the gameplay.

No one ever denied that.

Only I didn't mean that after that it was necessary to make the recoil of the MP-40 as high as that of the MP-38, rather the opposite. Probably on the contrary, It would be better, on the contrary, to reduce the MP-38 recoil to the MP-40 level, as well as remove the overestimated recoil of the first shot in each turn. And maybe then it will be more pleasant to shoot with submachine guns. Although this is still not enough.

So I uploaded a video to a google drive with a demonstration that my MP-38 recoil is more than that of the MP-40. Try it yourself and see.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hZo3rSjNG86y4FOhMsYcIQtq6lfzyCH7/view?usp=sharing

Quote from: Pa3ym2 on 04-11-2021, 19:11:23

Is it possible that one of your developers, without your knowledge, improved something in the behavior of bots?

That is impossible, the only change made to 2.58 was to the launcher and the bren carrier crash fix on Port en Bessin. All other beta changes were held back. Also, nobody is working on AI and any change is shown in our automatic changelog. We also didn't change the MP40 recoil. It is all in your head, I'm afraid.

I say for sure that there were no such changes before, and then I got them. Maybe the fact is that I also added a pack of new cards weighing several gigabytes to the standard version of FH2 2.58? It seems that this pack is from some fans of the game. Is it possible that in this package there were some other script files for bot behavior that changed and improved them?

Another improvement about half a year ago was that in the version up to 2.57, bots did not shoot at light tanks from rifle grenade launchers, and in version 2.57, they began to shoot from rifle grenade launchers at light tanks and destroy them. Because of this, playing light tanks with bots has become much more difficult. Isn't it the same with you? Do you have bots shooting rifle grenade launchers at light tanks? If you do not believe me, I can record a video of how, driving a light tank Stuart on Omaha Beach, I see how German bots shoot at me from rifle grenade launchers, and quite often get into my tank.

Regarding the MP-40 and MP-38: Should the recoil of these two submachine guns be the same? I now have the recoil of the MP-40 in version 2.58 slightly lower than that of the MP-38, despite the high rate of fire of the MP-40. So I did one more experiment on screenshots
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zgLiG_Emrwn1eKPi-rG04n7p6KmhZnSQ/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1udwn43h0bj2ZQrk-tv0u_KSRMTFHXYB5/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QeADsMBN9VJt4UnYUCrGIm6bOf3pSll6/view?usp=sharing

Standing in the same position, I aimed at the level of the beginning of the flagpole in the ground and fired 17 shots in a continuous burst from both submachine guns. On the second and third screenshots, you can see that the barrel of the MP-40 stopped slightly lower than that of the MP-38. In the MP-38, the front sight of the barrel entered the flag in the background, while in the MP-40 it did not reach the flag. I checked this several times, all several times the barrel of the MP-40 against the background of the flagpole stopped slightly lower than that of the MP-38. In skirmishes with bots, this is manifested in the fact that controlling the queues from the MP-40 has become a little easier than from the MP-38, despite the high rate of fire of the MP-40. Because of this, in shootings on Al Alamein 16, I often threw my MP-38 and picked up the MP-40 from the officer's corpse, because the recoil from the MP-40 is easier to control.

If this is different with your submachine guns, then either I have some bugs with the game, or it is one of your programmers who makes some changes, but you do not know about them. In our VKontakte group, they also told me that they had not made any such changes, but I have them.

In version 2.57, you could go to the path of the Battlefield 2 / mods / fh2 / objects_weapons_server / weapons / Handheld files to select the desired weapon, and then over the line ObjectTemplate.weaponHud.altGuiIndex 52 write the line ObjectTemplate.weaponHud.guiIndex 4
Save changes, and after that the crosshair on the screen for this weapon returned.
In this version 2.58, this method of returning the crosshairs to the screen stopped working.
One of the Russian-speaking assistants in the development of the mod told me that the anti-cheat on the server noticed this change in files and did not let the player into a network game with other players. But I also didn’t play a multiplayer game with other players. I played with bots.
Tell me how to return the crosshair to the screen for playing with bots now?

SP mode in the refractor 2 engine is a dead end, as most of the issues playing with bots have is caused by the hardcoded stuff of the BF2 we cannot change. Do not expect any updates in the SP / COOP department.

But after all, in the last update, you made the bots fire a rifle grenade launcher at machine gunners. This was not the case in the penultimate version. Is it possible to do so that, for example, prohibit bots from taking out a knife / bayonet and fighting hand-to-hand?

Tell me on this forum is there any limit on the creation of topics and votes? I could create quite a few of them for the most pressing problems in the game